August 15, 2025 • 29 mins
This week's episode comes from "Sports Card Nation Live" on the 2025 NSCC Main Stage. I was joined by Tony De Marzio(TJ is online) and Tony Leebrick(SouthernCollector14). Conversation includes buying strategies, saving for the NSCC, buying with purpose and exit strategies and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sports guard Nations Hobby, It's the people, Wheely News and Interviews,
It's your number one song, Sportscarnations hobby is the people.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Sports Guarnation. What is up?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Everybody? Welcome to Episode three of Sports Cardination Podcast. A
little bit of a treat, at least I think so
every year, been blessed to do a main stage performance
at the National for the last I think five years,
and each year I try to bring up different folks
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to be a part of it and so keep it fresh,
and this year was no exception. I brought up two
gentlemen named Tony Tony Leebrick Southern Collector fourteen and Tony
DiMarzio tj is Online, and we talked about strategies buying
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before the National, not buying before the National, raising capital
before the National or at the National to fund our
passion and our hobby. We talked about vintage cards and
some again some tips and strategies, exit strategies, and so
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it was a fun fifty so minutes on stage with
both tonys and I got the audio here, so part
one will be today and part two will be on
episode three fifty, So again I hope you enjoy it.
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It was a blast being up there with Tony. And
Tony want to give a shout out to all our
great sponsors, Iron Sports, Cards, Sports Collectors, Digest, Hobby, Hotline,
and Upper Deck. And today featured sponsor is Upper Debt.
And here is part one. All right, if you were
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here for the previous show, you might remember my name
is Sean Newman Sports Carnation Podcast, and that's what this
segment of the on stage is going to be. I'm
joined by two better looking gentlemen than me, so that
that part's good, both named Tony and I'm gonna introduce
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him in alphabetical order to be fair that way. There
are no fights up here, and we avoid that. But
I'm kidding. They both like each other. But they're actually
in alphabetical order. To my left, first, Tony DiMarzio. There
is I sometimes forget, but there's a space between the
E and the M, and he yells at me when
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I forget, so I won't do I won't do it anymore. U.
TJ is online is where you can find him on
the UH on the interwebs. And to his left, H
Southern Collector, UH, mister Tony Leebrick and UH producing some
great content and uh, we're gonna talk some National, We're
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gonna talk some vintage. I don't know if there's people
here for either one of those, but that's what we're
gonna we're gonna tackle on today's program. I'm gonna start out, guys.
You know, for me, I can only speak for myself here.
I have a limited you know, like a lot of people,
or most people have a limited budget. One of the
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things I've done before the National, uh, is like three
months before, sometimes two months before, I really stop buying.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Any cards of significance.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm not saying I don't buy any cards, but anything
of real big you know, lots of money, if you will,
or significant money, and I kind of save up to
bring it to this event, knowing a with a list
of five eight cards. What's your does your approach change
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for a show like this in comparison to maybe a
local show or a show you're doing or attending on
a local level.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That's great, that's a great question. So this is my
third National. Second I attendant with my son Anthony, who's
sitting in the first row. My first National was a
nineteen eighty eight one. It was in Atlantic City and
that's really my father started talking about, you know, saving
money for the Baseball Greats, but I was too busy
buying eighty seven flare of rack packs and grabbing Wally
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Joyner and those other types of cards. But with that
and remembering how that was and how last year went,
I always try to save up my budget for the hobby,
especially for the National. But it's hard because you have
wonderful regional shows like the Philly Show. You have to
share Antilly Show and the Boston Shriners, so it's difficult,
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but you do try to change your approach. But every
now and then you get the occasional auction or a
friend recommends a card that you can find prior to
the National, and before you know it, your National budget's gone.
So it's it's just something that we have that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
We have to be a card. Uh Tony Squared. I
guess we'll yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So this is only my second National.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Now I've gone to some pretty I'm in Nashville and
we have a pretty good show there that has a
lot of the National dealers that I go to. But
I'm more budget my money towards when a big auction.
When I get word that there's a big card that
I want that fits in my lane, that doesn't come
up very often. That's what I kind of saved my
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budget towards the National is more of a buying opportunity.
But I don't come here of searching for big cards
because even though there's some here, I don't want to
carry that much cash on me. And also sometimes this
can be sensory overload for me. And then on days
like today when it's so crowded, you can't even get
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to a table to see what's there. So when I
know there's an auction coming, and if any of you
guys watch me, you know what my lanes are and
there's different ones. But when I see a certain card
it's gonna be a big dollar card, I'll kind of pause.
So I'm not spending a lot of money here. Well,
in my terms, you know, it's all relevant. But when
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I you know, if I've I've pretty much spent my
wallet on this already, and I'm just gonna hang out
with buddies. But I'm saving my money for this card
that's coming up, that I got word that's gonna be
out there and I'm gonna make a good.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Run at it. I might not get it, but I'm
at least putting myself in the ball game.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, you know, even it's it's good points there, right,
and we forget about that. I mean I bet on
stuff on the auction house too. It's a good opportunity
and sometimes even even save a few bucks from the
national sticker shock in some cases as well. Things I do.
You know, I'm a dealer, so I do shows. I
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do about two shows every month. So if I have
a really good show, obviously I put my sales tax.
I know the I R S is here, So I
put some of my sales tax to the side in
an envelope, and then I put some extra money that's
basically for to for this week, right for the National.
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A buddy of mine was always going to Vegas a lot,
and I'm, you know, middle class, not rich, and I'm like,
how are you going to Vegas so much? And He's like, hey,
I do what's called a dollar envelope John, And I said, well,
what is what Explain that to me? He says, every
day I get home and I know I'm not going
back out.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I'm in for the night.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Whatever ones are in my pocket, I just throw them
an envelope and forget about him. And I do that
every day and he goes at the end of that year.
Some years I have like four figures, you know, one
you know, like eleven hundred bucks, twelve hundred bucks, and
I don't even like I saved that without even really
realizing it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
He goes, you ought to do it. So I've done
it for like eight year.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I actually did that before the National, before my first national.
And the first year I did it, I think I
had eleven hundred bucks in the envelope. It didn't feel
like I was like putting eleven hundred bucks aside. Right,
that's a nice card. And so I've done it. I've
done it every year since then. And my lowist has
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been like four hundred bad one year apparently that year,
and then my highest had been sixteen hundred wow. So
and you don't even notice it. And that's just extra
card money, right and obviously my contact creation full disclosure,
I don't do it for this reason, but it does
generate some fun. So that goes right back in the hobby,
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whether it be for the show or for cards that
I buy that I could talk about on the show.
And so it's just a cycle like that. As well,
so those are just some things how you could save.
I'll throw that out there. I know we're early in
the show here, guys, kind of your early thoughts on
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what you've seen so far here.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Like you, I also have an envelope where I save
money every month. But what happens is I keep a
top fifteen list on my phone using iOS notes about
the cards I like. And the challenge maybe for the
both of you also is when a car comes up
at auction or you see it online, and then you
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have to dig into that envelope, which is your national money,
because then if you don't, then you're taking money out
of out of an account that you don't want to.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
So what do you do in those shows?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think I might be the stupid guy up here
because I just don't buy anything for three months. When
I say anything, I mean anything of like big time cards.
So so I and now I think of it, I'm
kind of sad because like that means I can only
buy these really nice cards nine of the twelve months.
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But it's so I can come here and and so
what you know for me, Tony, I come.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
In here and you know this.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But for those listening, and this will come out in
audio later on too. Is I come into this show
with a list of like five to eight I'll say items,
because they're not always all.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Cards, like one of the items on.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
This year Wantless If you Will is it Jackie Robinson Auto,
So it's not necessarily a card. But so I come
into the show with five to eight items. I'm not
going to get every item. I know that, and the
budget doesn't wouldn't allow that if I if I found
them all, or found them all even at a decent price.
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So I come in with the target of getting two
or three of them. If I can get two or
three of them for me, that's a successful No, it's
not that it's a Nazi like if you come here,
don't have fun, no matter what you did something wrong.
But from the card aspect, if I can pick off
two or three out of that list of five to eight,
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I look at that as a successful venture, at least
in the card earning portion of it. Some years I've
done better than others. Some years I found it. I
found a decent card early. Most years it seems like
it's there Saturday before I find or may pull the
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trigger on something. Even this year, I'm purchasing a thirty
three Goudy Jimmy Fox. It's a pre arranged deal. I
have to yet to meet up with the gentleman I'm
buying it from, so it's a done deal. I just
we just gotta make the exchange of card and money.
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So for me, I hope to come out of here
with two or three cards and then after the show,
you know, all everything sort of back to no. I
take that that three months, you know, sabbatical is off
and away we go again. But for you, how what's
your approach like coming into the show. Do you have
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like you, like Tony, you said you have a you know,
sort of a list of things you're looking for? Do
you Sometimes I've been told like it's better to almost
not have a list and just whatever hits your eye.
How do you approach your buying at the National?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Tony?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
So I don't really have a physical list. I just
kind of know what I need. Now, I do have
a list, Like I look at the National like this
is an opportunity to pick up cards. It's a buying opportunity.
I'm building the nineteen fifteen Crackerjack set right now in
the commons.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Just don't come up all the time.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
You can pick up the Hall of Famers and auctions
and things like that, but the common cracker jacks, you know,
and they're gonna run you two to three hundred bucks
a pop, but you just can't find them. And so
this is an opportunity to have some really good dealers
with a great collection of cracker jacks. So I've actually
already I've made it. Sure, I did it early before
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they got gone, but I bought eleven and so I've
got those eleven. I've already put them in the safe
in the room, and so that's that's what I looked
at this.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
The main thing for the National to me is is
the opportunity to hang out with buddies.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's a social thing.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
We have the YouTube event tonight and you get to
see all the guys that you talk to on a
regular basis and hang out and have a good time
and and so it's things like that, we going I'm
going to a dinner tomorrow night and hanging out with
a bunch of buds. So it's just a buying opportunity.
So I budget a certain amount every month that I'm
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willing to spend, and I bet I have a slush
fund at the same time. So if something comes up
that doesn't come up all the time and it's right
for the national, I'll grab it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So, uh, this is an example of one.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's a terrible card.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
It's a Rookie Hank Aaron, which obviously you can see
it from eight rows back. But what's really I'm one
of my lanes is autograph vintage, and so I love.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Autograph vintage cards.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Uh, it's this one has been JSA certified, it just
hasn't been slapped. But what's really special about this one
is it's an ink pen Rookie year autograph. Because like
Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron's autograph changed over time and there's
only maybe three of these that fit.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Into that category.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
So when this one came up, I grabbed it because
it fits in my lane and I'm not ever gonna
see it again. So when things like that happen, I'm
blessing enough to own my own business, so sometimes I
can dip into the business kitty bonus a little money out.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Not everybody has that opportunity, so I know that.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
So you know, I'm very blessed in that standpoint, but
I will do that. But going into this. I sold
some cards, so I sold some cards. We're having the
Vintage Trade night Saturday night. I got a stack of
Goudys that I'm gonna sell that are gonna fund those
Crackerjacks that I bought today and last night.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So I do that too.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I use my cards as a way to fund my buying,
so that's important to me.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And just a quick correction, there is no common card
in the nineteen fourteen or fifteen cracker Jack set.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I'm working on the nineteen eighty two. Uh karting.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm kidding, No, that's an obviously, that's a great set
echoes without saying.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
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You are listening to the sportscard Nation podcast.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's the thing sometimes we forget about, right, the journey
to completion or the journey of an acquisition, right, the
stories along the way to the people, like Tony Liebrick said, right,
the people we get to meet and become friends with
and share.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
You know, while we.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Share this common bond of card collecting, we get to
know them. I get to know people, and I'm sure
I speak for these two gentlemen. I've gotten to know
people on a deeper level than just the cards. Right,
that's only the surface, But you get to know them
the person and their even families and things they do
besides cards. And you know, sometimes something bad might happen
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and you're maybe you can be there for him in
those times as well.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And so and John let me break in real quick.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
A perfect example of that was Orlando exactly and him
going through his diagnosis and it's so scary, and the
YouTube community just banded together. Everybody, we did a video.
I kind of rounded people up. I think we ended
up with like forty people saying good, good best wishes
to Orlando that he was they were he was being
prayed for, and that was a positive thing for Orlando
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to get through it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I wouldn't have known Orlando without this.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
There's a couple of guys in this audience right now,
Nate in Cardboard Verities and Matthew nineteen fifty six types
got and there's Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
So those guys I met through my Instagram family before
I ever did YouTube, and this is the first time
I've met them today in person. So you know, this
is a fun thing, but it's a hobby inside a hobby,
and you meet people who are really awesome people and
they're really they're real friendships. So you know, that's that's
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the reason one of the big reasons I'm here.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, go ahead, I was gonna say, And the friendships
and the at least I think we all could say,
everyone here like we could talk more about items and
topics and conversations outside of the hobby, like nothing about
baseball cards or you know, we end up talking about
family and sports and what's going on with the kids
and just you know, jobs, and I like that the
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best part of it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, And you know, speaking over Lando. He's doing better
and doing well, right, and he did a video. I
think a lot of people have seen it, and I
joke with him now you.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Know, I didn't tell him this before his surgery.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
But like not a lot of hobby content hits me
where like tears.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Are going down my face.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I I don't want to make it out like I
never cry, but I'm not a big cry But watching
that video, it's scary, right, It's scary no matter who
you are. And if you know Orlando, you know he
speaks from the heart. You know he's a sincere guy.
I know that video probably wasn't easy for him to make.
I know he got emotional during it.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And there in my.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Office slash studio. Thank my wife didn't walk in say
what the hell's going on in here? But I you know,
I was crying because, uh, Orlando's a friend of mine
and I was worried about him. And anytime you hear that,
see word, right, I don't care what kind, it's a
scary thing. And uh, when you care about people and
you worry about people just as a human being, even
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maybe you don't know someone, and you hear that, right,
you your your heart goes out to them, but when
you know him, it's it's to a different level. And uh,
you know, he was almost you know, I don't know
about you guys, even watching it, like I almost thought
there was like a goodbye just in case video and
I'm like, man, I don't even even if I thought
that was like, I don't think I could do that.
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And you know, but uh, you know, right now we
have a happy ending. He's doing well, and uh so
that that's good. But that's that's a great example, Tony,
of just where these relationships go. But sides cards right,
they go to deep personal levels, as they should, and
that's the that's the fun part. And that's what makes
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the national uh so great, right, seeing people again or
meeting people like for the first time. What U And
either way it's fun. Doesn't matter right the events outside
the show, whether it be a vintage trade night, a
trade night, a dinner watching the White Sox. I'm still
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waiting for my check to watch and watching the White
Sox play.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Unfortunately, Tony, to my left, here's Phillies lost. I brought
him bad luck. But here's here's another thing. You can
be adversario and be good friends. Right, I'm a Mets
fan and he's a Phillies fan, and I think we
get along pretty good being being the case right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And I was this White Sox fan last night because
the Mets keep losing right now to the Padres. Uh
so uh but okay, uh, you know we talked about buying.
What are some straight Like Tony Leebrigg you said like
I don't like to bring a lot of money. There's
a lot of people that would probably echo that sentiment.
I don't bring a Brinks truck, but I like to
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have cash. I think sometimes you know, it's a dealer myself.
Right when I'm set up, I don't set up here
to Nashville, and when I set up at the shows
that I do, right, cash short of you know the
old saying, right, cash is king. It's true, like mister
mint Alan Rosen made a career out of bringing briefcase
and got steals of deals because people could smell that
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and it was right in front of them.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Well, that really is true.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Like someone offers me cash at a show that sort
of trumps an online payment form or whatnot. Maybe they're
both the same, but seeing it and smelling it, there's
something about that. Do you think, like not carrying as
much CAD is it a disadvantager? Maybe not as much
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as I'm making it out to be.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I like a combination of that approach. I'm here with
my son for the second straight National and I don't
feel too comfortable about having him carry large amounts of
cash because you know, younger guys today, they like to
wear you know, the mesh shorts with the pants pockets
aren't that deep, and you're always just worried about, you know,
backpack picking. But with the forms of payments with Zell
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and PayPal, friends and family and even goods and services,
it's a nice option, but not a not especially with
vintage dealers. They vothered deal in cash. When it comes
to the dealers who I go see with Anthony, they're
more into the Zell and the PayPal and the then
the so it's kind of a mixed bag.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I would say, yeah, I mean I kind of have both,
so I'll have some cash and then I obviously have
obviously PayPal and Zell and other things, you know, credit cards.
Worst case scenario, you know, I don't bring those. I
use them at home though, But but you know, kids
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today Tony's don't know how to write any of those anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It's a lost, it's a lost.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah. So but you know there's a different combinations. Obviously,
you trade cash and trade uh you know, pay money
platforms and and that sort of thing. But you know,
and I always say with credit cards, right, be careful.
Sometimes it's easy to do, like I'll just pay it
off or I pay it back, and you.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Know, the next thing, you know, the bill comes into mail. Right.
It's funny because.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
When you use your credit card, you get the item,
whatever it is you're buying, and you don't feel like
you spent anything because you didn't yet, and then the
bill comes into your mail like, oh they didn't forget
about when I bought that. So always the cautionary tale, right,
it's it's a great tool to use, but know that
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just because you didn't plunk down any the commerce and
coin that at the exchange, the day still comes when
it's time to pay the piper. So I've had people
on my show that were very honest and said I
got in trouble John doing that. I ran up a
five figure bill and really was stressing, like how am
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I going to pay this? Or even you know, my
wife like sees it, I'm in the doghouse or worse,
you know, a lawyer's house. But you know for me too.
One of the things, you know, I did my first
show as a dealer at fifteen years old in nineteen
eighty seven in New York and I made fifteen hundred bucks,
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and fifteen hundred bucks in nineteen eighty seven is more
than fifteen hundred bucks today, and fifteen hundred bucks today
is still fifteen hundred bucks. And I was raised by
my grandparents, and my grandma said, you know, you can't, Johnny,
you can't walk around with that. You got to start
a bank account and put it in the So that's
what we did. And I've had the same it's switched banks,
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but I've literally had the same account, and it's where
all my dealer money goes, my taxes and all and
my content creation stuff goes. And when I was dating
my wife, she wasn't my wife yet obviously we're actually
she we were engaged, and she.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
She asked me.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
We're at dinner one night, she goes, what are john
what are you doing with your business account? And I
said to her, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
What am I doing with my business account.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
She said, well, marriage is a partnership, and I'm like,
I agree with you, marriage, this is a partnership. I'm like,
what are you bringing to the business of cards, And well,
I don't know anything about that, and I could tell,
you know, she actually was a little peeve, not like
it wasn't a fight or nothing, but she was a
little peeved. And you know, I said, you don't today,
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you may not get it, but someday you.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Will make this longer story shorter.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Year, many many moons later, I bought a Jackie Robinson
leaf Rookie. That was my Grail card. It came she's
not a card person, but I did show that car,
and I like, hey, hone, I got my Grail card
to Jackie Robinson Rookie showed it to her. She never
really asks like, hey, how much did you make at
the show or what did that card cast you? But
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she goes can I ask what that cost? And then
I told her like seventy seven hundred bucks and her
jaw hit the floor and she goes one card like
she doesn't like many of us here understanding, she doesn't.
She goes one piece of cardboard that much and I'm like, well,
in this case, and I get you know, I did
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whle explaining that at any point you can sell that
and liquidate at so it's just money in a different form,
and she gets it now, but that moment she didn't.
But I also said to her Tony and Tony, I'm like,
now you're probably glad I have that business account because
that seventy seven hundred did not come from our joint account.
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So then you know, even that approach as well for
some if you can do that, even having a separate
account where you don't upset your home life potentially, if
you can do that and that sort of thing, All right,
hope you enjoyed the first part of our on stage
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conversation Tony Liebrick, Tony DiMarzio.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Great.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know, it's a great honor and privilege we get
to do this each year, and again, I never take
that for granted. And you know, no matter how many
times I go up there, I'm not just saying that
it's still you know, it's still cool, still cool and
really fun to do. So that was part one, Part two.
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The conclusion of this conversation will be on next week's
episode three fifty to be exact, so thanks for listening.
We'll have some closing and partying words and wrap up
this week's episode.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Sports Guarnation. What is up?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Everybody? Welcome to Episode three of Sports Cardination Podcast. A
little bit of a treat, at least I think so
every year, been blessed to do a main stage performance
at the National for the last I think five years,
and each year I try to bring up different folks
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to be a part of it and so keep it fresh,
and this year was no exception. I brought up two
gentlemen named Tony Tony Leebrick Southern Collector fourteen and Tony
DiMarzio tj is Online, and we talked about strategies buying
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before the National, not buying before the National, raising capital
before the National or at the National to fund our
passion and our hobby. We talked about vintage cards and
some again some tips and strategies, exit strategies, and so
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it was a fun fifty so minutes on stage with
both tonys and I got the audio here, so part
one will be today and part two will be on
episode three fifty, So again I hope you enjoy it.
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It was a blast being up there with Tony. And
Tony want to give a shout out to all our
great sponsors, Iron Sports, Cards, Sports Collectors, Digest, Hobby, Hotline,
and Upper Deck. And today featured sponsor is Upper Debt.
And here is part one. All right, if you were
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here for the previous show, you might remember my name
is Sean Newman Sports Carnation Podcast, and that's what this
segment of the on stage is going to be. I'm
joined by two better looking gentlemen than me, so that
that part's good, both named Tony and I'm gonna introduce
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him in alphabetical order to be fair that way. There
are no fights up here, and we avoid that. But
I'm kidding. They both like each other. But they're actually
in alphabetical order. To my left, first, Tony DiMarzio. There
is I sometimes forget, but there's a space between the
E and the M, and he yells at me when
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I forget, so I won't do I won't do it anymore. U.
TJ is online is where you can find him on
the UH on the interwebs. And to his left, H
Southern Collector, UH, mister Tony Leebrick and UH producing some
great content and uh, we're gonna talk some National, We're
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gonna talk some vintage. I don't know if there's people
here for either one of those, but that's what we're
gonna we're gonna tackle on today's program. I'm gonna start out, guys.
You know, for me, I can only speak for myself here.
I have a limited you know, like a lot of people,
or most people have a limited budget. One of the
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things I've done before the National, uh, is like three
months before, sometimes two months before, I really stop buying.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Any cards of significance.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm not saying I don't buy any cards, but anything
of real big you know, lots of money, if you will,
or significant money, and I kind of save up to
bring it to this event, knowing a with a list
of five eight cards. What's your does your approach change
(04:21):
for a show like this in comparison to maybe a
local show or a show you're doing or attending on
a local level.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That's great, that's a great question. So this is my
third National. Second I attendant with my son Anthony, who's
sitting in the first row. My first National was a
nineteen eighty eight one. It was in Atlantic City and
that's really my father started talking about, you know, saving
money for the Baseball Greats, but I was too busy
buying eighty seven flare of rack packs and grabbing Wally
(04:52):
Joyner and those other types of cards. But with that
and remembering how that was and how last year went,
I always try to save up my budget for the hobby,
especially for the National. But it's hard because you have
wonderful regional shows like the Philly Show. You have to
share Antilly Show and the Boston Shriners, so it's difficult,
(05:12):
but you do try to change your approach. But every
now and then you get the occasional auction or a
friend recommends a card that you can find prior to
the National, and before you know it, your National budget's gone.
So it's it's just something that we have that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
We have to be a card. Uh Tony Squared. I
guess we'll yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So this is only my second National.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Now I've gone to some pretty I'm in Nashville and
we have a pretty good show there that has a
lot of the National dealers that I go to. But
I'm more budget my money towards when a big auction.
When I get word that there's a big card that
I want that fits in my lane, that doesn't come
up very often. That's what I kind of saved my
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budget towards the National is more of a buying opportunity.
But I don't come here of searching for big cards
because even though there's some here, I don't want to
carry that much cash on me. And also sometimes this
can be sensory overload for me. And then on days
like today when it's so crowded, you can't even get
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to a table to see what's there. So when I
know there's an auction coming, and if any of you
guys watch me, you know what my lanes are and
there's different ones. But when I see a certain card
it's gonna be a big dollar card, I'll kind of pause.
So I'm not spending a lot of money here. Well,
in my terms, you know, it's all relevant. But when
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I you know, if I've I've pretty much spent my
wallet on this already, and I'm just gonna hang out
with buddies. But I'm saving my money for this card
that's coming up, that I got word that's gonna be
out there and I'm gonna make a good.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Run at it. I might not get it, but I'm
at least putting myself in the ball game.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, you know, even it's it's good points there, right,
and we forget about that. I mean I bet on
stuff on the auction house too. It's a good opportunity
and sometimes even even save a few bucks from the
national sticker shock in some cases as well. Things I do.
You know, I'm a dealer, so I do shows. I
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do about two shows every month. So if I have
a really good show, obviously I put my sales tax.
I know the I R S is here, So I
put some of my sales tax to the side in
an envelope, and then I put some extra money that's
basically for to for this week, right for the National.
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A buddy of mine was always going to Vegas a lot,
and I'm, you know, middle class, not rich, and I'm like,
how are you going to Vegas so much? And He's like, hey,
I do what's called a dollar envelope John, And I said, well,
what is what Explain that to me? He says, every
day I get home and I know I'm not going
back out.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I'm in for the night.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Whatever ones are in my pocket, I just throw them
an envelope and forget about him. And I do that
every day and he goes at the end of that year.
Some years I have like four figures, you know, one
you know, like eleven hundred bucks, twelve hundred bucks, and
I don't even like I saved that without even really
realizing it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
He goes, you ought to do it. So I've done
it for like eight year.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I actually did that before the National, before my first national.
And the first year I did it, I think I
had eleven hundred bucks in the envelope. It didn't feel
like I was like putting eleven hundred bucks aside. Right,
that's a nice card. And so I've done it. I've
done it every year since then. And my lowist has
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been like four hundred bad one year apparently that year,
and then my highest had been sixteen hundred wow. So
and you don't even notice it. And that's just extra
card money, right and obviously my contact creation full disclosure,
I don't do it for this reason, but it does
generate some fun. So that goes right back in the hobby,
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whether it be for the show or for cards that
I buy that I could talk about on the show.
And so it's just a cycle like that. As well,
so those are just some things how you could save.
I'll throw that out there. I know we're early in
the show here, guys, kind of your early thoughts on
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what you've seen so far here.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Like you, I also have an envelope where I save
money every month. But what happens is I keep a
top fifteen list on my phone using iOS notes about
the cards I like. And the challenge maybe for the
both of you also is when a car comes up
at auction or you see it online, and then you
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have to dig into that envelope, which is your national money,
because then if you don't, then you're taking money out
of out of an account that you don't want to.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
So what do you do in those shows?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think I might be the stupid guy up here
because I just don't buy anything for three months. When
I say anything, I mean anything of like big time cards.
So so I and now I think of it, I'm
kind of sad because like that means I can only
buy these really nice cards nine of the twelve months.
(10:39):
But it's so I can come here and and so
what you know for me, Tony, I come.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
In here and you know this.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But for those listening, and this will come out in
audio later on too. Is I come into this show
with a list of like five to eight I'll say items,
because they're not always all.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Cards, like one of the items on.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
This year Wantless If you Will is it Jackie Robinson Auto,
So it's not necessarily a card. But so I come
into the show with five to eight items. I'm not
going to get every item. I know that, and the
budget doesn't wouldn't allow that if I if I found
them all, or found them all even at a decent price.
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So I come in with the target of getting two
or three of them. If I can get two or
three of them for me, that's a successful No, it's
not that it's a Nazi like if you come here,
don't have fun, no matter what you did something wrong.
But from the card aspect, if I can pick off
two or three out of that list of five to eight,
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I look at that as a successful venture, at least
in the card earning portion of it. Some years I've
done better than others. Some years I found it. I
found a decent card early. Most years it seems like
it's there Saturday before I find or may pull the
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trigger on something. Even this year, I'm purchasing a thirty
three Goudy Jimmy Fox. It's a pre arranged deal. I
have to yet to meet up with the gentleman I'm
buying it from, so it's a done deal. I just
we just gotta make the exchange of card and money.
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So for me, I hope to come out of here
with two or three cards and then after the show,
you know, all everything sort of back to no. I
take that that three months, you know, sabbatical is off
and away we go again. But for you, how what's
your approach like coming into the show. Do you have
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like you, like Tony, you said you have a you know,
sort of a list of things you're looking for? Do
you Sometimes I've been told like it's better to almost
not have a list and just whatever hits your eye.
How do you approach your buying at the National?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Tony?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
So I don't really have a physical list. I just
kind of know what I need. Now, I do have
a list, Like I look at the National like this
is an opportunity to pick up cards. It's a buying opportunity.
I'm building the nineteen fifteen Crackerjack set right now in
the commons.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Just don't come up all the time.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
You can pick up the Hall of Famers and auctions
and things like that, but the common cracker jacks, you know,
and they're gonna run you two to three hundred bucks
a pop, but you just can't find them. And so
this is an opportunity to have some really good dealers
with a great collection of cracker jacks. So I've actually
already I've made it. Sure, I did it early before
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they got gone, but I bought eleven and so I've
got those eleven. I've already put them in the safe
in the room, and so that's that's what I looked
at this.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
The main thing for the National to me is is
the opportunity to hang out with buddies.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's a social thing.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
We have the YouTube event tonight and you get to
see all the guys that you talk to on a
regular basis and hang out and have a good time
and and so it's things like that, we going I'm
going to a dinner tomorrow night and hanging out with
a bunch of buds. So it's just a buying opportunity.
So I budget a certain amount every month that I'm
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willing to spend, and I bet I have a slush
fund at the same time. So if something comes up
that doesn't come up all the time and it's right
for the national, I'll grab it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So, uh, this is an example of one.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's a terrible card.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
It's a Rookie Hank Aaron, which obviously you can see
it from eight rows back. But what's really I'm one
of my lanes is autograph vintage, and so I love.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Autograph vintage cards.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Uh, it's this one has been JSA certified, it just
hasn't been slapped. But what's really special about this one
is it's an ink pen Rookie year autograph. Because like
Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron's autograph changed over time and there's
only maybe three of these that fit.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Into that category.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
So when this one came up, I grabbed it because
it fits in my lane and I'm not ever gonna
see it again. So when things like that happen, I'm
blessing enough to own my own business, so sometimes I
can dip into the business kitty bonus a little money out.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Not everybody has that opportunity, so I know that.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
So you know, I'm very blessed in that standpoint, but
I will do that. But going into this. I sold
some cards, so I sold some cards. We're having the
Vintage Trade night Saturday night. I got a stack of
Goudys that I'm gonna sell that are gonna fund those
Crackerjacks that I bought today and last night.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So I do that too.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I use my cards as a way to fund my buying,
so that's important to me.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And just a quick correction, there is no common card
in the nineteen fourteen or fifteen cracker Jack set.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I'm working on the nineteen eighty two. Uh karting.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm kidding, No, that's an obviously, that's a great set
echoes without saying.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
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You are listening to the sportscard Nation podcast.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's the thing sometimes we forget about, right, the journey
to completion or the journey of an acquisition, right, the
stories along the way to the people, like Tony Liebrick said, right,
the people we get to meet and become friends with
and share.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
You know, while we.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Share this common bond of card collecting, we get to
know them. I get to know people, and I'm sure
I speak for these two gentlemen. I've gotten to know
people on a deeper level than just the cards. Right,
that's only the surface, But you get to know them
the person and their even families and things they do
besides cards. And you know, sometimes something bad might happen
(17:42):
and you're maybe you can be there for him in
those times as well.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And so and John let me break in real quick.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
A perfect example of that was Orlando exactly and him
going through his diagnosis and it's so scary, and the
YouTube community just banded together. Everybody, we did a video.
I kind of rounded people up. I think we ended
up with like forty people saying good, good best wishes
to Orlando that he was they were he was being
prayed for, and that was a positive thing for Orlando
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to get through it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I wouldn't have known Orlando without this.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
There's a couple of guys in this audience right now,
Nate in Cardboard Verities and Matthew nineteen fifty six types
got and there's Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
So those guys I met through my Instagram family before
I ever did YouTube, and this is the first time
I've met them today in person. So you know, this
is a fun thing, but it's a hobby inside a hobby,
and you meet people who are really awesome people and
they're really they're real friendships. So you know, that's that's
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the reason one of the big reasons I'm here.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, go ahead, I was gonna say, And the friendships
and the at least I think we all could say,
everyone here like we could talk more about items and
topics and conversations outside of the hobby, like nothing about
baseball cards or you know, we end up talking about
family and sports and what's going on with the kids
and just you know, jobs, and I like that the
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best part of it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, And you know, speaking over Lando. He's doing better
and doing well, right, and he did a video. I
think a lot of people have seen it, and I
joke with him now you.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Know, I didn't tell him this before his surgery.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
But like not a lot of hobby content hits me
where like tears.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Are going down my face.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I I don't want to make it out like I
never cry, but I'm not a big cry But watching
that video, it's scary, right, It's scary no matter who
you are. And if you know Orlando, you know he
speaks from the heart. You know he's a sincere guy.
I know that video probably wasn't easy for him to make.
I know he got emotional during it.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And there in my.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Office slash studio. Thank my wife didn't walk in say
what the hell's going on in here? But I you know,
I was crying because, uh, Orlando's a friend of mine
and I was worried about him. And anytime you hear that,
see word, right, I don't care what kind, it's a
scary thing. And uh, when you care about people and
you worry about people just as a human being, even
(20:24):
maybe you don't know someone, and you hear that, right,
you your your heart goes out to them, but when
you know him, it's it's to a different level. And uh,
you know, he was almost you know, I don't know
about you guys, even watching it, like I almost thought
there was like a goodbye just in case video and
I'm like, man, I don't even even if I thought
that was like, I don't think I could do that.
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And you know, but uh, you know, right now we
have a happy ending. He's doing well, and uh so
that that's good. But that's that's a great example, Tony,
of just where these relationships go. But sides cards right,
they go to deep personal levels, as they should, and
that's the that's the fun part. And that's what makes
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the national uh so great, right, seeing people again or
meeting people like for the first time. What U And
either way it's fun. Doesn't matter right the events outside
the show, whether it be a vintage trade night, a
trade night, a dinner watching the White Sox. I'm still
(21:28):
waiting for my check to watch and watching the White
Sox play.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Unfortunately, Tony, to my left, here's Phillies lost. I brought
him bad luck. But here's here's another thing. You can
be adversario and be good friends. Right, I'm a Mets
fan and he's a Phillies fan, and I think we
get along pretty good being being the case right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And I was this White Sox fan last night because
the Mets keep losing right now to the Padres. Uh
so uh but okay, uh, you know we talked about buying.
What are some straight Like Tony Leebrigg you said like
I don't like to bring a lot of money. There's
a lot of people that would probably echo that sentiment.
I don't bring a Brinks truck, but I like to
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have cash. I think sometimes you know, it's a dealer myself.
Right when I'm set up, I don't set up here
to Nashville, and when I set up at the shows
that I do, right, cash short of you know the
old saying, right, cash is king. It's true, like mister
mint Alan Rosen made a career out of bringing briefcase
and got steals of deals because people could smell that
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and it was right in front of them.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Well, that really is true.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Like someone offers me cash at a show that sort
of trumps an online payment form or whatnot. Maybe they're
both the same, but seeing it and smelling it, there's
something about that. Do you think, like not carrying as
much CAD is it a disadvantager? Maybe not as much
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as I'm making it out to be.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I like a combination of that approach. I'm here with
my son for the second straight National and I don't
feel too comfortable about having him carry large amounts of
cash because you know, younger guys today, they like to
wear you know, the mesh shorts with the pants pockets
aren't that deep, and you're always just worried about, you know,
backpack picking. But with the forms of payments with Zell
(23:26):
and PayPal, friends and family and even goods and services,
it's a nice option, but not a not especially with
vintage dealers. They vothered deal in cash. When it comes
to the dealers who I go see with Anthony, they're
more into the Zell and the PayPal and the then
the so it's kind of a mixed bag.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I would say, yeah, I mean I kind of have both,
so I'll have some cash and then I obviously have
obviously PayPal and Zell and other things, you know, credit cards.
Worst case scenario, you know, I don't bring those. I
use them at home though, But but you know, kids
(24:06):
today Tony's don't know how to write any of those anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It's a lost, it's a lost.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah. So but you know there's a different combinations. Obviously,
you trade cash and trade uh you know, pay money
platforms and and that sort of thing. But you know,
and I always say with credit cards, right, be careful.
Sometimes it's easy to do, like I'll just pay it
off or I pay it back, and you.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Know, the next thing, you know, the bill comes into mail. Right.
It's funny because.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
When you use your credit card, you get the item,
whatever it is you're buying, and you don't feel like
you spent anything because you didn't yet, and then the
bill comes into your mail like, oh they didn't forget
about when I bought that. So always the cautionary tale, right,
it's it's a great tool to use, but know that
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just because you didn't plunk down any the commerce and
coin that at the exchange, the day still comes when
it's time to pay the piper. So I've had people
on my show that were very honest and said I
got in trouble John doing that. I ran up a
five figure bill and really was stressing, like how am
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I going to pay this? Or even you know, my
wife like sees it, I'm in the doghouse or worse,
you know, a lawyer's house. But you know for me too.
One of the things, you know, I did my first
show as a dealer at fifteen years old in nineteen
eighty seven in New York and I made fifteen hundred bucks,
(25:43):
and fifteen hundred bucks in nineteen eighty seven is more
than fifteen hundred bucks today, and fifteen hundred bucks today
is still fifteen hundred bucks. And I was raised by
my grandparents, and my grandma said, you know, you can't, Johnny,
you can't walk around with that. You got to start
a bank account and put it in the So that's
what we did. And I've had the same it's switched banks,
(26:04):
but I've literally had the same account, and it's where
all my dealer money goes, my taxes and all and
my content creation stuff goes. And when I was dating
my wife, she wasn't my wife yet obviously we're actually
she we were engaged, and she.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
She asked me.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
We're at dinner one night, she goes, what are john
what are you doing with your business account? And I
said to her, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
What am I doing with my business account.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
She said, well, marriage is a partnership, and I'm like,
I agree with you, marriage, this is a partnership. I'm like,
what are you bringing to the business of cards, And well,
I don't know anything about that, and I could tell,
you know, she actually was a little peeve, not like
it wasn't a fight or nothing, but she was a
little peeved. And you know, I said, you don't today,
(27:00):
you may not get it, but someday you.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Will make this longer story shorter.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Year, many many moons later, I bought a Jackie Robinson
leaf Rookie. That was my Grail card. It came she's
not a card person, but I did show that car,
and I like, hey, hone, I got my Grail card
to Jackie Robinson Rookie showed it to her. She never
really asks like, hey, how much did you make at
the show or what did that card cast you? But
(27:26):
she goes can I ask what that cost? And then
I told her like seventy seven hundred bucks and her
jaw hit the floor and she goes one card like
she doesn't like many of us here understanding, she doesn't.
She goes one piece of cardboard that much and I'm like, well,
in this case, and I get you know, I did
(27:47):
whle explaining that at any point you can sell that
and liquidate at so it's just money in a different form,
and she gets it now, but that moment she didn't.
But I also said to her Tony and Tony, I'm like,
now you're probably glad I have that business account because
that seventy seven hundred did not come from our joint account.
(28:09):
So then you know, even that approach as well for
some if you can do that, even having a separate
account where you don't upset your home life potentially, if
you can do that and that sort of thing, All right,
hope you enjoyed the first part of our on stage
(28:29):
conversation Tony Liebrick, Tony DiMarzio.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Great.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know, it's a great honor and privilege we get
to do this each year, and again, I never take
that for granted. And you know, no matter how many
times I go up there, I'm not just saying that
it's still you know, it's still cool, still cool and
really fun to do. So that was part one, Part two.
(28:56):
The conclusion of this conversation will be on next week's
episode three fifty to be exact, so thanks for listening.
We'll have some closing and partying words and wrap up
this week's episode.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Time for our hobby is the people announcer of the week.
What's up Sports Coordination? This is Brett McGrath with Stacking
Slabs podcast.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Remember the hobby is the people.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
If you'd like to be the hobby is the People
Announcer of the week, do a one or MP three
file and send it to Sportscardenation PC at gmail dot com. Ok,
so I don't see you. Good afternoon, good evening, and
good night.
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