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A true crime documentary-style podcast hosted by Javier Leiva.

Episode Transcript

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At the heart of every crime,there's a lie. I'll have to do
this job. Well, you're goingto have to learn to lie, but
you're gonna have to remember who you'relying to and when to lie and when
not to lie. But a lieis only powerful if you choose to believe
it. It all came out,all the story came out. Had it
turned out he had two wives andfive fiances, that he wasn't marrying women

(00:27):
because he loved them. He wasactively impregnating women to written more for money,
me being one of them. Sowhy do we fall for it?
Every time? My father told meat a young age, he says,
Carl, the two easiest things tosell anybody anything that will prove their looks
and anything that will make them money. And that's what you want to sell.

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Pretend is a documentary podcast about peoplepretending to be someone else. I
interview real con artist, snake oilsalesman, and former cult members anyone living
alive. Search for Pretend wherever youget your podcasts