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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Goodmore long and thanks for tuning in to
Taylor's of Tech Live on YouTube.We're kicking off today's live stream with kind
of a big message we got,but an interesting one nonetheless, also by
one of our favorites, at leastmy personal favorite supporters, because he was
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one of the insane and rare nowTaylor's of Tech Ultra members, So I
feel inclined to answer him first.But of course we'll we'll talk about all
kinds of things. This is justwhat we're kicking off today's livestrom you.
But get comfy, get your popcornready, because this is a big subject
and one that was such a bigquestion that I almost considered making a video
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about it. Then I realized,nope, you know what, this video
would be too long and I wouldrather have this conversation publicly in real time
with you guys, because I wantto get your thoughts on this subject as
well. But yes, it's aboutApple's leak culture. This absolutely affects my
channel our day to day because alot of what we talk about on this
channel is what is yet to come, what are we waiting for, what's
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coming next? You know's that's alot of what we talk about here.
So I'm just gonna read the wholemessage so you guys can fully understand what
I'm trying to answer. But thiscomes from Nicholas Linthicum two eight seven to
one. Once again, thank youfor your insane generosity. He says,
I know you yourself have personally saidyou're bored the following the leaks for Apple
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products. I mean, yeah,that's I mean relatively bored. I mean
I would rather talk about Apple leaksand rumors than I would like sports because
I'm not a sports guy. Soit's like, it's not the most interesting
thing going on in my life rightnow. But just to be clear,
I still get mildly curious whenever Ifind out about Apple working on something.
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I'm always like, hmm, doesthat sound real? Does that not sound
real? It kind of pertains tomy job, yes, but at the
same time, it's not as interestingas it you to be. That's that's
fair. But Nicholas says, asa company, do you think Apple still
truly cares about the leak culture likethey did during the iPhone four days?
Which is kind of a very differentstage of Apple. So I would argue
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probably less so, just because there'sbeen so many iPhones since then. So
that's question number one is do theystill care about it as much as they
do? I mean, clearly,Apple still very much wants to keep things
under wraps. They like to surprisepeople. They don't like everything to leak.
But Apple probably is now aware afterso many years of Internet culture being
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around and YouTube leak culture being aroundfor so long, they probably have admitted
defeat to a certain extent and justaccepted that, Okay, you know,
so much of our manufacturing and somuch of our stuff is outsourced, and
so much of our CAD files leakearly, or we have to send out
renders early for case manufacturers, there'sno way we can just keep all of
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this under apps one hundred percent ofthe time. They do their best,
but I don't think they necessarily thinkit's the end of the world when something
leaks, or they have to scrapthe product or change the product so that
it doesn't follow the leaks. Idon't think they care that much, but
they do what they can. Andthen question number two from Nicholas is it
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seems most of the product leaks areso accurate due to manufacturers being overseas.
They do not care to release thingsearly. Do you ever see a future
where Apple can try to stop theoverseas leakage? Pretty much The only scenario
in which I could envision them stoppingis if they started, I don't know,
manufacturing more things. Even domestically.Stuff leaks though all the time.
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It's not like it's not like ifthey built iPhones in the US somehow they
could keep them more under wraps.What probably would help them keep iPhone designs
or Mac designs or iPad refreshes moreunder wraps is if Apple did their own
manufacturing. Again, I don't thinkthat would completely stop it, because there's
always going to be sources that,you know, journalists can have contact with
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and say, hey, you knowwhat's going on today, what's Apple working
on? And things slip out.Humans are not perfect, humans are not
flawless. But the less humans youget involved in the manufacturing process, and
typically there is more and more automationthe more time goes by. There's certain
aspects of iPhone production that have beena lot more automated in recent years than
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previous, but there are still humans. But if we did ever reach a
point where Apple found a way toalmost completely and entirely manufacture all of their
tech autonomously. It would probably bea lot easier to keep things under wraps
and harder to find out. Butmy guess is there's just certain things that
humans are not very good at replicating. Kavon Javid, thank you for five
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months of support, by the way, that's very kind of you, Thank
you, thank you. I triedto join the discord, but I couldn't
find the link. It's just discorddot gg slash helosuf. I think we
have our own custom URL, sojust look it up. I'm sure some
I'm sure it's somewhere. And thennumber three, I think is the big
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one. It is a given thatsoftware is inherently harder to leak because anything
could be scrapped or changed. Lastsecond, however, do I think Apple
inherently trolls us when it comes toleaking product events marketing. It seems like
it would take a while to getout, but it seems as if there
is a rumored Apple event but thenplans totally changed last second. To me,
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Apple probably needs time to host evena virtual event, especially if they
want press at the park to film, or even enough time to get products
to the reviewers. It seems likewe are getting a taste of that this
year with the spring site refreshes,but a couple of years, a couple
of years ago, I think hemeant we also had this during the spring
as well with the rumored March twentythird, twenty twenty one event, and
then it got pushed to April oftwenty twenty one for the Spring Loaded event.
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Yeah, I think personally I couldbe wrong, but I think us
leakers think we're more important than wereally are. Well I'm not a leaker,
but but people in the leak communitythink we have a bigger effect.
Like a lot of the time peoplehave this thank you Randy, Randy just
posted it. A lot of thetime. I think people have this expectation
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that, oh, well, becauselots of people reported on this announcement,
or because lots of people leaked thatthis happened, Apple decided to change their
mind just to throw all the leakersoff. And I mean, that's that's
a funny idea. It's it's hilariousfor making skits like I do. Like
let's joke about Tim Cook changing theproduct release cycle just to make Mark German
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look bad. But genuinely. Ithink Apple's a big company. They're likely
very structured. They likely have certaincalendar, you know, events scheduled with
marketing guys and release guys and interviewsthat are you know, in PR departments
that are all ready for particular launches. My personal guess is they mostly stick
to the plan, and a lotof their plans are made months in advance,
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and a lot of the time we'rewrong, and it makes the leak
community feel a lot more vindicated orvalidated if they say, oh, well,
Apple was gonna do what I said, but they changed their mind later,
because then they find a way tobe wrong but also be right at
the same time. I would say, like ninety nine or ninety five percent
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of the time the leakers are justwrong. I don't think it's really Apple
changing things at the last second oryou know, changing that many things around
purely because of oh well, weneed the leak community to be wrong.
I mean, I'm not against theconcept of Apple delaying things or canceling things
or pushing things back, but Idon't think it's because they want leakers to
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be thrown off, or they wantto throw off the media or surprise people
or surpass expectations in some way.I think they probably delay in post pone
things, but it's probably more todo with the product than it is what
the leakers are actually saying, SoI hope that answers your question. Automation
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means more humans involved in development stage, surely, possibly, But I mean
there's probably a certain amount of humansinvolved in that regardless. You still have
to have a human involved to figureout what a human's going to do.
So those people who are designing theassembly process are there regardless of if it's
automated or man made. But yeah, robots have a harder time leaking things.
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I have a conspiracy theory that iPad'sonly stuck around as R and D
for Apple Silicon for the Mac.It does kind of feel like the iPad
hardware team is purely there just toexperiment with what they can do hardware wise,
because the iPad hardware is always wayup here. But then iPad OS
development is always like a sub sectionof iOS, Like all of the software
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team just works on iOS and thenat the last second they're like, okay,
well, also you should probably optimizethat stuff for the iPad hardware.
You should probably bring some of thatiPhone iOS features to the iPad as well.
There's so little time and attention putinto the iPad software, but there
is all of these like hardware exercises. I think a lot of the time.
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Don't call me surely, hey Dad. Good to see it as anything
leaked with Apple's AI model, notreally. All we know is Tim Cook
and who was it John turnus haveboth made references to Apple's generative AI features
and said that they're very excited toshow them to us. So that's from
Apple themselves. That's not really aleak. But I agree ipedos is very
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much unthought out and does not takeadvantage of its amazing hardware because iPads have
had great hardware for a while.But I hope that answers Nicholas's questions.
I think I summarized my thoughts prettywell. But we also have other questions
from Taylor's of tech pro members,starting with e Law because he asked next,
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when looking at what Apple does asa company today and comparing it to
Steve Jobs Apple, it seems likeApple has had to become more aware of
other companies. When Steve Jobs wasa part of Products, it was all
about making his vision. Now Isee more parody between companies as Apple releases
products. This could be a sideeffect of reaching peak smartphone, as you
have talked about before. What Iam curious about is if Jobs was still
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around today, do you think hewould still be focused on his vision.
Yeah, but I think you're Ithink I don't know how long you've been
watching Apple e Law, but Ithink you're forgetting a lot of Steve Jobs's
comparisons if you go back and watcha lot of Steve Jobs hosted events,
which were most Apple events back then. He loved to bring up the competition.
Maybe we're remembering two different things,but yes, Steve Jobs was very
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focused on what he thought a productshould be like. He really liked his
vision and even to a certain extent, didn't care as much if the products
sold all that well. He justwanted it to be good, and if,
in some tech specky way, thecompetition did something better, he was
like, well, I don't careabout those textpecs because my vision and making
sure the product is what I wantit to be is what matters in the
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end. But he was slowly becomingmore open minded as the years went by.
He was, you know, willingto have his mind change. But
if you recall back in the iPhoneunveiling, he loved to showcase here's here's
the competition. Here's what a BlackBerry, Here's what a flip phone is capable
of doing versus our phone. Here'swhen he unveiled the iPod, I remember
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him comparing it to you know,a walk band, an MP three player,
and here's the problem with these existingmusic pocketable devices, and here's what
the iPod fixes that with. Orwhen he unveiled the Backbook Air or a
MacBook Pro, he was like,Okay, here's what Sony or Dell has
available today. It's way clunkier,and here's its performance. And this is
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a decent laptop, but ours isbetter. You know. He loved to
do those comparisons. So that's that'swhat I don't quite see the like Steve
didn't want to acknowledge his competition.I would say Apple today is far more
hesitant to talk about the competition thanSteve Jobs was back when he was running
the company. From what I recallwatching a lot of previous Apple keynotes,
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I think he loved to bring upthe competition, particularly if he looked better,
whereas these days Apple gets very vaguewith their comparisons. It's like,
it's it's four times faster than thebest selling PC laptop. What is the
best selling PC laptop? I don'tknow, probably some cheap junkie thing,
or it's five times faster than IntelCore Ice seven processor, and everyone's like,
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well, why are you comparing itto the I seven. There's better
processors than that. So Apple hasto get very selective and kind of weird
with their comparisons, where Steve Jobswould straight up bring up the competitor's laptop
in full view, even complement thelaptop in certain regards. I remember,
I think when he unveiled the MacBookPro or something, he was saying like,
hey, this is a pop laptop. It still has a good amount
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of performance, but we wanted topush it to the next level. Next
level, Let's ask Dad, becauseDad remembers all those days, Dance's jobs
was always about making things smaller.Apple Vision would have been kind of big
for him. Yeah, I probably, I think I agree with that.
I don't know if Steve would haveunveiled Apple Vision Pro today, he would
have wanted it to be thinner andlighter before launching it. But it's been
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a long time. I just wanta product that has the same chaos energy
as the iPod Nano. Just bonkersredesign every year. That did change a
lot, did it over time?Yeah, it was kind of like really
narrow at first, and then thescreen got really tall or no, first,
first it got really square. Youhad the third gen iPod Nano.
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I have a case somewhere that hasall these old iPods. Then they had
the squarish iPod Nano, which mymom still has and still works. And
then my first Apple product ever wasthe four G where they made it all
skinny and the tall display, andthen the five G the screen got even
taller than they had a camera tothe back. Then the sixth generation was
basically a watch. It was likea big iPod shuffle with a screen.
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It was like a square screen andyou could even buy wristbands for it,
and it had a clock app andeverything, but it still had a thirty
pin connector. It still had aheadphone jack. There was no Bluetooth back
then. And then the last onewas the seventh gen. They went back
to it being kind of skinny,but it was the only iPod Nano with
a multi touch display, but ithad a home button and it did have
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Bluetooth. I think that was theonly iPod nano to ever rock Bluetooth,
which was pretty cool. And thenthat was it. It was done.
Now I think the Apple Watch kindof serves the purpose of the iPod nano.
I don't think we need those tocome back. There's nostalgia for them.
We can still have our memories,but there's no need for the product
to exist anymore. All I wantout of iPad o WES is a watch
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app and I watch integration for aminimalist set up. I'm just trying to
figure out who's pairing their watches totheir iPads. I agree with you.
I'm just trying to figure out who'sdoing that. But we can't even get
a calculate app on the dan iPad. Man, Let's focus on a calculator
app and then we can talk aboutApple Watch compatibility. It's so distant from
me now because now I don't havea watch or an iPad. It'd be
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awesome if you talk about Shaomi andHuawei for how similar they are with iPhone,
and they could change the industry.They could change the industry of how
similar they are well The first problemis those phones aren't available in my region.
I've gone overseas and seen people usethem, but it's kind of the
same issue whenever I talk about Androidphones is there's not that much to say.
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In general, the smartphone industry isvery much matured and plateaued, so
it's hard to find things to talkabout, which is why a spoiler alert
there might be more of these livestreams in the future because a lot of
the time, where I kind ofstart running low on interesting news topics or
I'm not particularly finding anything too interesting, I go, well, rather than
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me try to guess what you guyswant to talk about, why don't I
do? A live stream can figureout exactly what you guys want to talk
about, And a lot of thetime it's just little questions like that,
what are your thoughts on Shami andHuawei? And I can tell you like,
well, I have a little bitof experience with them, but nothing
about the hardware necessarily jumps out tome, and that kind of answers your
question. And also I can figureout what else people are interesting interested in
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talking about. But before I forget, let's make sure I don't skip over
hyj Choy's question. As we're goingthrough telusu Tech Pro member questions, do
I think there will ever come aday when Apple stops updating a product line
without discontinuing it. Oh? Interesting? For example, I didn't read this,
by the way, before I wentlive, so I'm reading it with
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you guys for the first time.For example, fifty years from now,
when we're on the iPhone seventy four. In this theoretical Apple dropped the number
suffix and puts the year in parentheseslike they do for MacBooks. They have
run out of things to add.They brought all EU exclusive features to everyone
globally, so Apple says this isthe final iPhone for the time being.
If we think of new things toadd, we will update you. If
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you could also answer the same questionfor software updates, you're not going crazy.
I didn't like my previous questions,so I deleted it. Oh wow,
you had a different question that Ididn't even catch. I want to
refresh. Where can I find thatone? Okay, that's an interesting question.
Yeah, like into the deep future, whether they or not using suffixes,
I don't know. At least rightnow, it feels relatively possible for
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new silicon and new chips to becomeavailable. So I feel like there will
always be a certain level of newmodel year, even if the model year
differences are very small. Just likehow Marquez's great example that I reference a
lot is, you know, shouldyou buy a twenty twenty four Toyota Camera
versus a twenty twenty three Toyota Camray. Are there a lot of differences between
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the two. Probably not. Butif someone is going out to buy a
brand new car and they decide yes, they want a new one, they
don't want to buy it used,they don't want anything with any miles on
it. You know, they wanta brand new car. They might as
well get the latest generation. Ifthey insist on buying new, you want
to make sure that they buy thelatest state of the art tech, even
if there's very small differences between thetwo. So I guess the hypothetical that
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YJ. Choy is throwing out thereis like, what would Apple have to
do to get to a point whereeven the silicon is not worth upgrading?
Like we've reached peak silicon. It'sone nanometer architecture, everything is super efficient,
super fast. I don't know,you'll have to ask me in twenty
seventy four. But I think therewill always be some kind of minor improvement,
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And yes, every year it getsa little bit more minor. Every
year it's oh, a capture button, or oh yeah, we figured out
how to make the battery life acouple hours better. And it seems like,
at least in the tech community,it doesn't have to be that much
better for a lot of people tojustify buying it. Personally, I think
it's very hard to justify buying anew iPhone every year. You know,
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I say, as a hypocrite rockingof fifteen pro, but that was mainly
because I thought Type C was sucha massive upgrade. A silicon atom is
zero point thirteen nanimeters, so weare getting close to the limit one pikameter
architecture. Yeah, we'll see howclose we can get. But if Apple
runs out of things, I think, you know, they pay a lot
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of people to think of new features, new marketing gimmicks. If there's demand
for it, they'll probably get aroundto it. I know it's probably not
happening this year or next year,but if enough of us keep shaking our
fist asking for a budget not abudget iPhone, but a small pro iPhone.
I saw people asking for that earlier. I just want a mini iPhone
that has promotion and a really goodcamera. And you know, right now,
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Apple's just making phones based on wherethe money is. But if they
start genuinely running out of new features, which I don't think they will.
I think they pay a lot ofpeople who have a lot of time on
their hands to come up with newhardware ideas, new software ideas. Who
knows, maybe we're going to bechasing a whole new road map of Silicon
with all this generative AI talk thatApple's trying to hype up, maybe a
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dubb dub. They're like, Okay, this is just the beginning, and
you know, it's kind of likestarting from scratch with some technology. Whereas
as far as displays and cameras go, it feels like we've kind of run
out of things to do. It'slike, okay, we can come up
with super high resolution video, superhigh resolution photos now what Okay, Like
no one's complaining about the picture quality. But if they come up with some
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fancy generative AI features on the iPhone, they might be really cool and really
handy, but have a lot oflost potential or not lost potential, but
you know, just potential of like, oh, well, this feature could
be so much better if we hadmore neural cores, if we had more
improved a silicon that could generate largelanguage models and that kind of thing,
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or crank out AI generated. Maybeit starts with pictures, but then we're
asking, oh, maybe the nextgeneration silicon can do video. So I
think that personally they'll reach a Idon't think personally they're going to quite reach
a point where they can't come upwith new ideas. I mean, freaking
lawnmower companies come out with new lawnmowersevery year. How many different versions of
a lawnmower can we think of?Right? Same thing with chainsaws, the
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same thing probably with hammers. Arethey the kind of thing you go out
and buy once a year. No, But they come up with stuff.
They think of things, whether it'sthis one's more environmentally friendly, which we're
kind of already seeing with the AppleWatch series nine. Is that what we're
on? Holy crap, I'm forgettingwell jeez, yeah. Half of the
talk when they unveiled the series ninewas just talking about, Wow, isn't
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it amazing that you know this isa carbon neutral apple product, and it's
like, yeah, but is thatmean? And I'm supposed to go out
and buy it just because it's carbonneutral, Like, what does it actually
do for me? We could startseeing more of that as we get closer
to twenty thirty, more and moreapple product. Half of the presentation is
just talking about how great this productis for the environment, not so much
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why should you buy it? Imean, what's probably best for the environment
is to not buy anything and justkeep using what you already have. Let's
see. What would Steve Jobs thinkof the capture button on the iPhone sixteen.
I don't know. You'd have toask him. I don't speak for
him, you know, I readhis book and I've watched a lot of
interviews with him, but I don'tknow. I don't think Steve was like
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against buttons. You know, SteveJobs had the home button back we got
rid of more buttons in features sincewe got since Steve Jobs has passed,
so I think I think if itwas handy and it was convenient, and
it had some features that made thepicture taking or video taking experience more enjoyable,
then sure, why not he mightbe on board with it? Why
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not. I mean, I don'tknow what the questions getting at, Maverick.
If you're trying to go, well, Steve Jobs was a minimalist.
He would never add a button tothe iPhone. It's like we got rid
of things that he added to theiPhone. No, I think you could
make the argument that, oh,well, if he was such a minimalist,
why would he unveil an iPad.If he's a minimalist, he would
just want an iPhone in a MacBooklike I have right now, right,
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and that would be enough. Butno, he was in favor of there
being a product category between the iPhoneand the MacBook. So that was one
of the last, you know,products he unveiled before he died, was
the post PC Era, a morepersonal device with more screen real estate and
more flexibility than an iPhone, butit kind of just stayed, you know,
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mostly on the coffee table or youknow, you could read books on
it, and just having a large, multi touch experience was supposed to be
better in a lot of ways thanusing a Mac or an iPhone. But
I don't know if you would havestill felt that way, if he would
have known that iPhones were going toget as big as they have gotten,
and that Apple was going to turnthe iPad into so much of a mac
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anyway, right, let's see whatis Burkhart saying. I think in a
world where cellular Apple Vision, wherewe hypothetically got to world where we're similar
in size to the glasses, notas many people would buy iPhones, especially
if Apple Vision gets a lot morepopular. I personally disagree, mainly because
I think there's huge features that cannotbe replicated on Apple Vision, or at
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least not that I can see alot. Especially these days, a lot
of people buy iPhones for the camera, and there's a ton of camera features,
whether it be you know, FaceTimecalls or taking selfies with your friends.
Those kinds of things are going tobe much, much, much harder
to emulate on Vision pro because peoplearen't gonna want to just even if they're
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a pair of glasses, you know, are you gonna want to have these
things on and say, okay,let's all take a picture of us at
lunch or at Disneyland or whatever.So you got to take it off,
you know, open the camera applike this or whatever, take them off,
hold them out like this. Okay, are we all in the picture?
I don't know. The eyesight displaysare kind of damn and small because
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I had to make them thin andlight to fit on my face. Right,
So it's like, okay, arewe all in it? Click?
All right, let me see howit turned out. Oh, it's great.
Can I share this to you?Opposed to just rectangle hold it out?
Click? Hey, look at thepicture. Hey, look at the
picture. Oh I don't like theway I look at that picture. Let's
take it again. Okay, delete, Let's try one more time. You
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know, I think they're becoming.The iPhone replaced so many things all at
once that I don't think. Idon't think smartphones are going to be replaced,
at least in my lifetime. Ithink that the way we use them
might change. But look at itsimilarly, the iPhone was super popular and
changed the world, right, Butdid it kill off the Mac? Did
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the Mac die? No, it'sstill here. Maybe we use it a
little bit differently than we did theiPhone, or the way we used Max
before the iPhone. Like, there'sa lot more people buying laptops now than
desktops, and a lot more ofthe time. You know, people used
to buy laptops for writing documents andemail. But now it's like, if
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you just need to write emails andyou know, write documents, you could
probably get by with you know,a phone or a tablet or something.
You don't necessarily need to buy athousand dollars laptop to do those basic things.
So now you justify a laptop ifOkay, I need to write code
or I need to make music,like Randy does. iPhone Mini is the
Steve Jobs iPhone, and like SteveJobs, it is now dead too soon.
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Sadly, the mini iPhone was killedoff far too soon. Buy a
different thing. But maybe it'll forcepeople to live more in the moment instead
of taking pictures all the time.Yeah, that's that's a nice thought,
but it's usually not how humanity works. It's kind of like saying everyone's going
to figure out that all this fruit, toast and sugar is bad for them,
and then vegetable sales are going toskyrocket. It's like, yeah,
that would be great, that wouldbe good, but it's not going to
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happen. Or expecting public transportation tokill off car ownership, it's like,
oh man, it would be socool if all the governments just agreed and
got together and said, you knowwhat, We're going to design our cities
from the ground up to all bepublic transportation friendly and everything is going to
work, and you know, peoplewon't need to own cars anymore. Yeah,
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that would be great if it happened, but it's just not going to
happen. People are addicted to phones, and phones are always going to be
cheaper than glasses. They're always goingto have better battery life than glasses.
Even if you've found a way tomake you know, Apple Vision capable glasses
five hundred dollars or four hundred dollars, then with that exact same tech,
you could make a smartphone that's fiftydollars, you know, and has five
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times the battery life. Maybe it'llI hope it forces more people to live
in the moment, but I thinkwhat's far more likely they're just going to
keep using their phones. My dadhas said, I think free hardware in
exchange for more expensive internet service withadd ons and apps, perhaps a ice
beaed connection all Apple. They definitelyseem to want to be pushing more towards
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services long term. I don't thinkit's necessarily working, but I mean it
was probably wise looking at how TimCook ran Apple because he knew that a
lot of companies like Meta, likeGoogle, like Amazon, they make most
of their money through services, notthrough hardware sales. So he tried his
best to reposition Apple as more ofa services company because the revenue is a
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bit more consistent, reliable, andhe was probably concerned, like a lot
of us are talking about now,Tim Cook was probably concerned that the hardware
differences year over year, we're goingto get so small that nobody would be
able to justify buying a new iPhoneevery year. And because you know,
iPhone thirteen fourteen becomes so similar,than people are just going to go,
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ah, why buy a new iPhone? People hold on to their iPhones longer.
So he said, Okay, thisisn't sustainable. We need to position
Apple into more of a services companythan a hardware company. But what they
probably either didn't expect, or probablywhat's more likely is they just didn't want
to assume, because it's potentially dangerousto assume that your bread and butter for
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revenue is never going to go away, although in my opinion it probably won't,
is that people every couple of years, just out of annoyance, are
just going to upgrade their iPhones becausetheir old ones, you know, the
battery goes bad, or the storagefills up, or they know there's better
cameras coming out. Apple can probablyeven with fairly small improvements here over a
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year, keep the company afloat justby most you know, how many people
use an iPhone around the planet now, probably close to a billion. I
think they said there's like two billionactive Apple devices on the planet, so
probably around half of those are iPhones. So if you have like a billion
people that all buy a new iPhoneevery four to five years, that's still
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a lot. That's still a lotof people buying new phones periodically, and
that demand, that refresh cycle ofyou know, three four years, however
long people go between upgrades, isprobably enough revenue to keep the whole company
afloat to the point that they don'tneed to become a huge services company.
Even though they are making a lotmore now from services than they used to.
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The iPhone still hasn't you know,been killed off, and I don't
I don't think people truly appreciate howdisruptive it is, how special it is,
how rare it is for a technologyto be this impactful, and also
relatively affordable to the masses. Frustrationis the only reason to upgrade for most
average conservers. That's absolutely true,Martin. I was actually just talking to
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a friend a couple of days ago, and they knew I make tech videos,
you know, so she was justtrying to, you know, make
small talk and keep me in theloop. And she said, hey,
I got I got a new iPhoneand I was like, oh cool,
you know what'd you get? Andit was like it was the fifteen Pro
mac and I, you know,I came from she came from an iPhone
eleven. Wes asked, do Imiss my iPhone eleven? Heck no,
I love USBC. I love thesmaller footprint of the fifteen Pro. I
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think it's a little lighter than theeleven, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, fifteen pros like and theirperfect iPhone to me, I love it.
I don't miss the iPhone eleven.But my friend who upgraded from an
iPhone eleven two of fifteen proas.I was like, so, how do
you like it? And she waslike, oh, it's it's way too
big, like it's hard for meto reach the whole screen. And I
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was like, well, why didn'tyou go with the smaller one? And
she said they didn't have any inthe stock, which just brought so much
joy to my heart because I waslike, we talk about all day on
this, on this channel or onDiscord or on Twitter about Oh, customers
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want more of this, Customers wantmore of this, Like people are gonna
buy certain phones because they have certainfeatures they care about. And what we
continue to misunderstand is how little peoplecare about so many of these phones.
People will use a phone until itstops working and they get frustrated with it,
or it gets more buggy, orthe storage gets full, or the
battery starts deteriorating. A lot ofthe time, even if you tell people,
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hey, you could just replace thebattery and probably fix a lot of
your problems, even then a lotof the time people will probably go,
yeah, but you know, thenI gotta still worry about my storage,
and there's new phones out now.I'd rather just so people like will go
to the carrier. She went toa Verizon store. She didn't go to
an Apple store, you know.She just people will replace their phone,
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like they get their car worked on. They don't know much about the engine,
They don't know much about tires.They just go in and go,
okay, can you fix this?Can you get it back to the state
in which I drive it? Orif it's really bad and it's really expensive,
then they'll just go Okay, youknow what, I just need to
get rid of this car and I'llbuy a new one. A lot of
people just live life that way,especially for something as relatively affordable as a
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smartphone. They go in to thecarrier place and they're just like, hey,
you know what, this phone's gettingkind of old. I need a
new phone. Do you have anew phone? And they go, yeah,
oh, we have the new fifteenPro Max. Would you like that?
And you go you got anything smaller? And the carrier goes, no,
we sold out of the smaller one, and they go okay. And
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I even asked her. I waslike, it was like, well,
can't you buy like a smaller oneand ship it? And she was like
yeah. But I didn't want tohave to deal with all that and wait
for a new phone in the mail. She wanted to just get it over
with right then and there. Shewanted to walk into the carrier place be
out of there in fifteen minutes witha new phone. That was better than
her old phone, So she chosethe phone she didn't exactly want, just
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to get the whole decision making processover with faster. And I was like,
I love that. She was like, what is that wrong? Is
that bad? I was like,no, no, that's great. I
love the fact that that's the wayyour mind works, and that's probably the
way most people's mind works. Itwas like, you're a normal human being,
You're not a weird like me that'stalking about. Oh but I want
I wanted to be a five pointfour inch display instead of a six point
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one inch displayed. That would bea little bit more comfortable in the hand.
I would prefer the way to bea little bit under the amount of
ounces. And you know, it'sjust like who cares. Most people just
walk in and go, you gota new one, Okay, that's good.
Same thing. I know people thatgot the regular fifteen they don't know
about. You'd have to explain tothem what sixty hurtz means. If you
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have to explain to them why it'sa bad deal, then it's not that
bad a deal. Dad says.Remember when the sales guy a best Buy
tried to sell you an Android youwere about twelve. You said, you
seem to have a lot of thoseand stuff. Yeah, that was back
before I had a smartphone. Iwanted to get my parents and I had
finally agreed that I was old enoughor mature enough. I probably wasn't,
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but we had agreed that I wasold enough to get an iPhone five back
when that had just came out,and we were trying to see where they
had him in stock. So wewent to best Buy and I said,
do you guys have any iPhone fivein stock? And he said no,
but we do have the Galaxy Sthree, And the sales guy there was
like, and it's way better thanthe iPhone five. It's got a higher
pixel density and it's bigger. AndI was like, wow, if it's
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so if it's so great, whydo you have so many something like that
my early Apple sheep roots. Dadreally liked that one. I don't know
if I said it to his faceor not, but it made a lasting
impact on Dad because he still likesJerry story. It is a good story.
But yeah, I don't remember where. I think we got it through
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Verizon later because we had Verizon atthe time. I'm so glad I'm not
on Verizon anymore. Every time Italk to people that are still on them
and I hear what they're paying forcell phone service, I just cringe a
little bit. But I try alsoto not make people regret their decisions,
so if they're already committed to it. Like I had a friend who bought
a He didn't buy it either,he financed it. Yeah, he just
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went to the Verizon place and said, you know, I want an iPhone.
He had a Pixel and he waslike, I'm tired of my Pixel.
I won an iPhone and they hadsome really good carrier discount I think
on an iPhone fourteen Pro Max.So he got a fourteen Pro Max after
the fifteen had come out, andI was like, ugh, you got
the most expensive phone with lightning andhe was like, it's twenty bucks a
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month through Verizon, and I waslike, okay, well, I guess
that's pretty dang cheap. Even that'stwo hundred and forty bucks a year,
So four hundred and eighty dollars aftertwo years. I guess the carriers are
willing to finance the hardware, assumingyou stick with their overpriced membership. But
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I was just like, okay,that's a pretty good deal. AJ thank
you for eighteen months. What's upwith your space, grat iMac, it's
not here. I love the iMacPro. I still think that's the best
iMac of all time, including theM one and M three. Imax.
Yes, those are still ugly.Those are still horrible. I would recommend
them to no one, But asfar as Imax are concerned, that's the
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best looking on But yeah, Ijust don't use it anymore. The Silicon
was outperformed in my Macmocpro's just abetter Mac in pretty much every way.
And I'm editing on the go alot. There's just a lot of times
where my wife is doing a lotof what you call it volunteering. That's
actually I think where she is rightnow, or she's doing some trainings for
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helping it whatever, she's volunteering,And oftentimes it's like, Okay, we're
volunteering at this city, and thenwe're going to a friend's house after she's
done volunteering, so we don't wantto drive all the way home. We
kind of live in a rural area, so it involves driving a lot.
Even though I work from home,I drive probably more than fifty miles a
day on average, which is funny. Good thing we have an electric car,
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but we didn't want to drive allthe way back home and then all
the way to our friend's house.So she's like, can you just film
some videos? Sorry? By theway, to the channel members who've been
asking for more members only streams behindthe scenes streams, the reason I haven't
done a lot lately is because oftentimesI'm not filming and editing videos all at
one time. I'm like filming avideo and then editing it several days later,
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or film a video, edit halfof it, stop, come back,
edit another half, and because Idon't want to do like a bunch
of ten minute streams about the samevideo, it's like, okay, if
I don't do it behind the scenesstream it's because I didn't do the whole
thing at one point. But needlessto say, there's a lot of times
where I drop my wife off forvolunteering and then I work in the car
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until she's done, and then soI'm editing on the go a lot,
and I just couldn't do that ifI had a Mac studio or a Mac
Mini. And there's just been aton of circumstances in the past couple of
weeks where it's like, oh,I'll edit at this person's house, or
I'll edit in the car when you'redoing errands or volunteering or whatever. So
she's just darting around a lot.And we like to be together because we're
married, and believe it or not, we kind of like each other,
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so we like being together when wehang out and go places. So I'm
very grateful that Apple Silicon exists andallows me to get a lot of work
done on a mobile machine now,which couldn't be done with the iMac Pro.
But the iMac Pro for its timewas still an amazing machine. Let
me make sure I didn't miss anythingback here, uh, Makima, that's
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why I forgot twenty eight months ofsupport. Good evening from Japan, Have
a nice day. Wow, that'sweird to think we got people in Japan
watching us. Thank you, thankyou very very much for the support they
made IMAX with M one and Mthree. I thought they died with the
Apple Silicon trade saying no, you'reright, you're right, Dylan, they
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did die. They didn't make thecut. Are you excited for Series ten
or X? I'm curious. Idon't think excitement is the right word.
Excitement would imply like, oh boy, what are they gonna do. I'm
more like, what are they gonnado? You know? That's that's kind
of how I'm thinking. Because there'sall this talk about, like I don't
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know, something about it being thetenth generation. They want to do something
bigger for it or something special forit, and I'm like, hmm,
how could you make the Apple Watchdifferent? How can you make it stand
out? I tried Samsung flagship phonesrecently, S twenty four Ultra, and
I felt the camera on the Galaxyis so similar to iPhone style. They're
all great in my opinion. That'spart of the reason I haven't reviewed one
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is not because I think they're bad. It's just because I don't think there's
much to say. But especially withthe case of Android, I would not
buy a brand new Android flagship onlaunch day. I know that that's the
exciting thing to do, and youknow all the YouTubers do it because you
know this is the new phone.But because Android resale value is known for
tanking so fast. I'm not,you know, an Android guy, but
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if I was, I would totallybuy last year's model because for one,
especially with the case of Samsung,because Samsung tends to have first DIBs on
a lot of hardware features their theirlast generation model is usually so similar to
the new one, and it's usuallylike half the price or less. Sometimes
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it's like a third of the priceor a quarter of the price to just
by last year's model, which hasalmost no differences. It's very very small
differences year over year, even lessnoticeable than iPhone year over year differences.
The iPhone had a big one withType C. Excuse me, the iPhone
had a big one with the wholeType CE transition. But you know,
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galaxies have been on Type C foryears now, so it's harder to get
excited about. But oh man,you can get S twenty three Ultras for
so cheap now compared to just buyinga brand new S twenty four Ultra waiting
for that sweet final cut pro tenwatch addition to drum. You know,
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you know what would get me excitedpersonally, I just want the ceramic designs
to come back. I'm not sayingI would buy one new, but I
really liked that ceramic Series five,and I know that not enough people were
buying them which is probably why theystopped making them. But I thought they
just looked so clean. I reallyliked that Apple Watch addition, but they
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killed that off when the Ultra camearound. I guess Burkhart says, do
you ever think about an alternate realitywhere you actually bought a sixteen inch macboc
Pro in twenty nineteen and sold youriMac Pro before it's value TANKD No,
I don't, honestly, but Icame close, I think to buying that
sixteen inch Macbocpro that came out intwenty nineteen. I remember trying it and
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really liking it. I think afew months ago I listened to an old
podcast when I was reviewing it,and then the performance was pretty close to
my iMac Pro. I remember exportingvideos on it, and it was about
the same speed as my iMac purely. The only reason I didn't keep the
twenty nineteen MacBook Pro is because therewas so much talk about the Apple silicon
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transition, and I knew that thatwas around the corner, and I knew
I didn't want to buy a newMac every year, so I said,
now my iMac Pro is getting meby, just fine, I can wait
a little bit longer for the ApplesLok and MacBook pros to come out,
and that's what I did. NowI'm very grateful I did. But I
wasn't that interested in selling the iMacPro at the time because I knew that
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it was still very capable and itwas still very handy, and my wife
also really likes it. That's partof the reason it's not hiss, because
my wife wanted it. So wehave it in the guest room, but
we still have it, and shewants she likes it. I don't think
she uses it all that much,but she didn't want to sell it.
I was all in favor of,like, yeah, we don't need this
anymore if we could sell it,but my wife was like, no,
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it's good, and she likes thatit's got storage on it. She likes
bigger screens, and she likes theyou know, sound system on it and
everything. So she was all infavor of keeping it from the beginning.
So I would have had that samedebate with her back in twenty nineteen as
we have now, where I'm stilllike, eh, I could depart with
it, it'd be fine, andshe's like, oh, let's hang on
to it. You know, shelikes being more resourceful and holding on to
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things and finding meaning for them,and I'm more of the waste type that's
like, ah, this doesn't bringme joy anymore, let's sell it,
let's get I need something else.I'm always like that, I want the
new things, so let's get ridof the old thing. But I'm trying
to combat that because it's not healthyand it's not productive, and it's also
just not what the world needs.More of consumerism, So I probably would
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have kept it regardless. Mike says, can I bear my Apple Watch series
ten with my Xbox Series ten?Yes, that's how it works. They're
both owned by x Elon Musk Company. I had a scary dream about Elon
Musk last night. Oh my god. I had some deep rooted fears of
that. Man. I did notanticipate. Holy crap. It was like
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that, Uh, I don't watchGame of Thrones, but you know that
like red wedding scene from Game ofThrones where like spoiler alert, like a
bunch of people die all at onetime. It was like that, but
Elon Musk was killing people. Itwas crazy. I woke up legitimately scared,
and I was like I need tobuy a Rivian. I am now
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terrified of this man. That wasweird. We need more pixel rants,
but I know that they are gettingbetter. I know, I know I
missed doing the pixel rants too.I know a lot of people love those,
but the truth is they need tobe justified. You can't just rant
for the sake of ranting. Youto things need to be rant worthy.
That's what makes them special, right. Josh Loroe says, I tried to
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wear an Apple Watch two at timesand it never worked out. Series zero
was too slow, and now thewatch bands put too much pressure on the
nerves and my wrist and cause intensepain. There's gotta be some different watch
bands. You could try the exwedding. Yeah, that's let's see.
If I ever went to an Android, it has to make me feel like
it's unique. I actually do havea side Android. The Pixel five love
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stock Android experience and the design feltreally great. I really enjoyed the Pixel
eight and Burkhardt brought out a gooddeal. I don't know if it's still
going on right now. But thisis not a paid sponsorship. I don't
get It's not even a referral thing. It's not an affiliate thing. I
don't get any credit for what I'mabout to tell you, But Burkhart found
out that Mint Mobile is selling aPixel eight, which I reviewed on this
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channel. I thought that was agreat phone. It's one hundred and twenty
its display, it's an amazing camera, it's the faster speed USBC port.
It's got good battery life, goodcharging, great design by the way,
very comfortable to hold, has theWesor camera bump so it doesn't wobble.
I love the Pixel eight. Threehundred dollars off an already reasonably priced phone,
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and when you buy it through MintMobile, it comes with six months
of free Mint Service. It's notlike their highest plan, but still you
get cellular service, you know,unlimited calls and texts, and I think
five gigs of five G data amonth for less than five hundred bucks.
It was like four hundred and ninetybucks. And I was like, dang,
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you know, I'm not an Androidguy, but if I was,
Holy crap, those are the kindof deals I would jump on. Sometimes
I wish I was an Android guybecause I could probably get way better deals,
and maybe I would have more totalk about on this channel. Sometimes
I kid you not. I've genuinelyconsidered just switching to Android to have more
news to talk about on the tailisof tech channel. The problem is so
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much of the tailofs of tech Brainwas built up on covering Apple and watching
Apple, and I think it's verynoticeable that when I talk about Android,
the videos don't perform as well asthey do when I talk about Apple.
So I know that it would probablyalienate or at least annoy a very large
chunk of my audience, because mostof my audience is like, I want
to talk about Apple products because that'swhat I buy, that's what I know.
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But I seriously have had many longtalks, long considerations on well,
should it be boring in about Apple, or you know, have more things
to talk about in about Android,or mix of both. And you know,
I still struggle with figuring out whatwhat should be prioritized, what should
be talked about. I know peoplesuggest one thing. It's easy to be
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like, oh, I bet ifyou did this, you'd get a bunch
more views, and then it's like, yeah, you'd think that, and
then I try to do it andit's like Nope, it's not really worth
it. And in Nussan. I'mnot even gonna try to pronounce your last
name because it's the longest last nameI've ever seen. But he says,
what is your opinion on YouTuber's clearlyoverheting Apple just for clicks from the Android
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community pays the bills. I don'tknow. I don't really care what other
channels do. I personally, Ican't be motivated too much by hatred or
criticalness. That only gets me sofar. I can rant a little bit,
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but ultimately, the reason I'm interestedin technology and the reason I like
talking about tech stuff and all thatis because I'm an optimistic guy and I
like positivity. Because a lot ofEV channels, I mostly watch EV channels,
by the way, but tech channelsin general, there's a lot of
them that I just can't watch becauseall they do is complain, and I
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think that can only be so interesting, that can only get so far.
Or also, you know, there'sa lot of EV channels that are just
purely there to complain about how themedia covers evs. Even that annoys me,
even though I agree with it.And then like, I'm a big
electric vehicle fan, and I believeelectric vehicles are the future. But I
can't watch someone else just complain abouthow the media covers electric vehicles because it's
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like, okay, but they're justtrying to generate clicks. That's just a
journalist working for an agency. That'ssure. Are they reporting things honestly and
accurately? Probably not, But theyhave a job to do, and you
know, they probably have a bossor a manager that says you need to
generate a certain amount of click.So that's one of the downsides of you
know, free speech and free marketcapitalism is you know, anybody can say
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whatever they want. That includes dumbthings, and some people say a lot
of dumb things, are a lotof critical things, some of which aren't
even true. But that's how alot of businesses are made. And if
you want to support that, youcan. But to me, it doesn't,
it doesn't bother me. It's justlike, well, I'm not going
to focus on that because it's notinteresting to me. I like focusing on
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things that are interesting and excite me, or at least captivate me a little
bit. Like probably the most excitingiPhone in the next year that I'm looking
forward to is not the iPhone sixteen, but the next SE. It sounds
like they're finally taking the SE ina bit of a different direction and knowing
that it'll be affordable and still haveType C and still have a pretty big,
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you know, oled display and allthat is Like, man, I
think a lot of people out thereare going to really appreciate this phone.
That kind of thing grabs my attentiona lot more than did you hear what
so and so said about this?And did you? It's like, yeah,
I mean they're wrong, but I'mnot gonna just dwell on it.
I can't. I don't know that. That's not a good motivator in my
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opinion. I can't just wake upin the morning goow, who's wrong today?
Who am I gonna go argue with? You know? Like I don't.
That doesn't excite me. I mean, I like bouncing ideas off people
and stuff. But if your FSDreferral dreams come true and you could sell
your Model three for thirty K andbuy a Rivian R three for thirty five
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K, would I do it?Eh? There would have to be a
bit more dream scenarios on top ofthat, because even if I got a
Rivian R three, now I wouldhave to pay for charging with the Tesla
and the referral program, I getfree charging. So if Rivian came out
with a referral program and I couldget free charging on the Adventure Network,
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and then they also built an AdventureNetwork charger on my nearby relatively close by.
Right now, I'm not even closeto a super arger, but I'm
closer to a supercharger than I aman Adventure Network charger. And also the
other hypothetical is if Tesla removed thefree charging perk, So if I suddenly
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could not get free charging from myModel three anyway, maybe switching to an
R three would be worth considering.But I don't know. That's a lot
of maybe, And the R threeis still a maybe at this point because
who knows If hopefully a Rivian survives. I think they will, but there's
a chance they don't. Anyway,you should do a lucid rant on ev
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I don't know. It's the samething. It's like I've I just there's
so much negativity already in the worldand in the YouTube space that I would
rather focus more and talk more aboutthings that are exciting to me. And
I have done a lot of criticalhit pieces on Lucid, and I tick
off a lot of the Lucid community. There's a lot of really passionate Lucid
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fans, and I don't enjoy takingpeople off or trying to convince someone that
their preference or what they like iswrong. Just like if you enjoy Android,
my goal is not to convince youthat you don't like Android. You
know, I'm not trying to convincepeople that they should all buy iPhones and
they'd all be happier. It's likeyou do you. I mostly on this
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channel talk about what's interesting to meand what I enjoy, and somehow that
convinces people. I still get itsometimes, Oh Drew, I used to
hate Apple, but then I watchedyour channel and now I like Apple.
And it's like I never tried tochange anybody's mind. I wasn't trying to
argue in favor of this being better. I've always just been this makes more
sense for me. So that's whyI want to keep using an iPhone or
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keep using a Mac is because formy lifestyle, for my workflow, this
is what works better. If Windowsworks better for you, or if Android
works better for you, all thebetter to you. You talk about that
on your communities or your channel,and it's not that interesting to me,
but you do you right, it'sharder to justify, like, okay,
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now, let me talk about whyI don't like this and why you're wrong
to like this. You know,like even when I do, I don't
enjoy just like uprooting or riling upa big community of people. Let's see
how many people I can anger today. There was a little bit of that
with my whole iOS is Growing Androidis Shrinking video, which I kind of
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suspected might have a good shelf life, as most of the videos on my
channel do not have a good shelflife, but that one seemed to have
done pretty well and there's still aregular number of people tuning into it and
commenting. And you know that's evenas I post new videos, that one
keeps getting new comments and people golike, oh, well, what you're
misunderstanding is this or you're not gettingthis, and it's like, yeah,
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people take that personally, and Iwas trying to be a lot more objective
about it. I was like,I didn't say iOS is better than Android.
I'm just saying that market share globallyspeaking, which is funny because I
kept getting comments like, that's justthe US market, and I'm like,
no, all of the data wetalked to in that video is specifically referring
to global data. None of thatwas restricted to any particular country. I
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was just talking about in the world. Over the past five six years,
iOS market share has been on therise. Android market share has been on
the decline, which is interesting,and I'm just going, why, let's
talk about why we think that's happening. And I was like the naive,
like bare bones, simplistic way tolook at that as well, there's just
more and more stupid people. Everyoneis stupid, so everyone's buying iOS because
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clearly, if people were smart,they would all buy Android. I think
that's a really you know, baselessgeneralization or just assumption to give on the
public. Well, the reason anyparticular service or product is growing is purely
because everyone's an idiot. Like,Okay, sure you can believe that.
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I joked about that and then peoplewent along and still commented it on ironically,
but I wanted to explore more whereI was like, well, maybe
maybe they're doing something right if it'spaying off and there's more people switching to
it even as smartphones are growing intomore countries, you know, even less
developed countries that are lower income.Shouldn't that result in Android market share rising,
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not declining. So he's like IRUsis doing something right. It's just
a debate about what it is.And a lot of a lot of the
defense fanroid commentary from that was just, well, it's because everyone's an idiot.
Sorry, you're right, everyone isstupid, because if anyone had a
brain, they would choose what youlike. There's no other reason. Let's
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see, I have the regular noteten for weeks now, good for you.
Yeah, Cano is only eighty milliondollars. There's a lot of people
that could buy the whole company.Now. I bought am moz the last
week and has car Play as smallas it is, I'm scared I'm going
to love it too much and notwant to Tesla in the future anymore since
it won't have it. Eh.I've tried car Play. It's kind of
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neat, but I would still sayit well designed from the ground up software
experience. Car is still probably thebetter way to do it, but it's
fancier to have iOS and the USA, I've literally seen women saying, don't
talk to me if you don't havean iPhone. Yeah, I hear those
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stories. I don't think that's likeeverybody. But still that the iPhone didn't
randomly get that street credibility or thatpreference from the general public. It earned
that. I don't think it's necessarilyjust because you know, iOS markettera is
growing because every woman on Earth thinksthe exact same way and says the exact
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same thing. You know, Ithink that's a you know, isolated I
mean, it happens more than once, I'm sure, but it's not.
I don't think it's the majority ofpeople. But there is a simplicity to
the whole I Message experience, andthat's probably what she is getting at,
is like, I like just thesimplicity of I Message. I can send
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high quality pictures and videos. Wehave the FaceTime integration, and that's something
that Apple got right very early.And now, of course, people are
very hesitant to change from it becauseit's just it's the default messaging app and
it works, and when you textother iPhones, there's a lot of simple,
easy to use features, and whenyou text other androids there isn't.
And it's taken a long time forthe competition to get together another standard RCS
(58:31):
which is still kind of a messbut slowly making its way onto iPhone,
and a lot of people are justI know what I'm comfortable with, and
that's what I want to use,and I don't want to have to because
when they're using Android, it involves, oh, well, if you want
to do that, you either haveto SMS text or we have to download
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Facebook Messenger and go through a differentapp, or use Instagram DMS, or
use Snapchat and just confuse people further. Or there's been appamization problems with Android,
so that built up a negative stereotype. Even if it's a lot better
now than it used to be,it's very hard to shake that stereotype from
people. So if they have thisnegative association with Android camera quality, not
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because of the cameras, but becauseof the third party app optimizations, that
stigma sticks with it over time becausemost people are not smartphone reviewers that are
going out and checking out new smartphones, and most people don't want to have
to relearn the way they use theirphone and have new passwords and new account
management. They just wanted to work, and iPhones are known for being pretty
(59:35):
simple like that, I don't datewomen with iPhones. I can't convert them
if they're already in the garden.You know what I mean. Oh my
god, Mark, women under thirtyfour will not date you without an iPhone
generally in the USA. Eh,I think people are Ironically, the women
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you're describing are very narrow minded,and you're also being very narrow minded with
that viewpoint. I'm sorry. Ijust from my own anecdotal evidence, I
know lots of people that have datedand then got married with you know,
android owners. I could think ofat least three people in my personal life
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that have Android phones that still somehowwere able to find a woman and date
them and get married. It's liketo you're being narrow minded by saying that
women will all think that way.And yes, the women that do think
that way are narrow minded, butI don't think I don't think it's the
majority. I think it's a smallgroup of narrow minded ladies that are being
(01:00:44):
very picky. I agree with Katrina, most women don't care what phone you
own. I agree, they're probablythere's a lot of things they're looking for
in a guy. I don't thinkthat's high on the list. If you
go to most I don't know,dating sites are like, what are you
looking for in a man? Iowea, just I refuse to believe that's what
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most of them are saying. I'msorry. I commend iPhone for its stability
and optimization. It's doing a greatjob. Yeah, it's just a lot
of a lot of people, bothmen and women, don't want to fuss
around with setting up new phones orlearning new things or getting new accounts.
So if they grew up with aniPhone, they're probably just gonna want to
keep using an iPhone because that's whatthey're comfortable with. It's the same thing
(01:01:29):
with a lot of people in cars. A lot of people just buy Toyotas.
They're going to keep driving Toyotas.A lot of people buy SuPAR Us
and they will continue to buy superUs no matter what. You know.
That's just that's my brand, that'swhat I'm comfortable with, That's what I'm
used to. It's the same thingwith phones. Narrow minded people are attached
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to each other. But my momspent six years trying to convert her X
to iPhone from Android because he wasconstantly complaining about his S twenty two Ultra
being piece of crap. They brokeup many other reasons, though, of
course no, I think that wasthe only reason purely broke up because they
didn't want to switch. I thinkthat Apple is growing because everything is just
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extremely convenient within the bubble of iOS, and I think it is seen as
a status symbol in more developing countries. Yeah, I think status symbols only
get you so far. I mean, it doesn't work that way with clothes,
right, Like, there are somestatus you know, name brand shoes
and status symbol clothes out there,but they aren't the best sellers, you
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know that, you know, theluxury brands that make the fancier clothes or
whatever. They don't out sell thecheap clothes that everyone can get at a
thrift store that most people wear acrossthe world. You know. So when
you talk about market share on thenumber of billions, I'm sure status symbol
has a certain impact, but Idon't think that's most of it. I
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think that's you know, there's probablya ton of variables that go into it.
But that's why it's an interesting topicfor me. It's like, what's
causing it? But yeah, there'sa lot of convenience and there's a lot
of simplicity with switching and with usingother devices, and with the app store
being so optimized and clean and easyto understand, let's not forget the real
(01:03:16):
villain in the room. Walmart inthe US at least doesn't accept any kind
of Apple or Samsung Pay. Well, that's yeah, that's on purpose.
They totally could. They choose notto because they lose like a percent of
a percent if they use Apple Pay, but if you use Walmart Pay,
they get to keep all their money. To say that Apple is known for
that is now the matter of past. Samsung is also second to none when
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it comes down to treating their ownusers. It's a very well integrated system.
I mean, if you're a techieperson, which I know you are
because you're watching this, you're moreaware of that. Like I know after
reviewing androids that they can still havegreat cameras, great displays, great prices
honestly, and they're just overall greatphones. But is everyday person going to
(01:04:00):
go out and watch tech reviewers reviewsSamsung phones now? They just they know
what they know and they're going tostick to what they're familiar with. I'm
from Pakistan and the iPhone is astatus symbol. It's not just like that
in the USA all, I'm sure, but again I'm talking about the world.
I'm not just talking about one countryin particular. USA, even population
wise, is not even not evena tenth of the world. I think
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Apple just nails the little things.They understand people better than other companies.
Just watch an Apple event right afterwatching a Samsung keynote. Yeah, that's
very well said everything Apple bro.They do understand how to market, they
do understand how to You're right,get just little details, animations, graphic
design, simplicity of navigating UI andmenus, and they don't try to change
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things too drastically, and they likethere to be some consistency. I don't
know. I don't even I strugglewith the status symbol thing because there's androids
that cost more than iPhones, youknow, Galaxy Folds and S twenty four
Ultra I believe starts higher than theiPhones do. So to me, it's
(01:05:13):
it's more than just status, becauseiPhones are not the most expensive phones,
so there's something it's a status ofa different kind, but there's something associated
with just iPhone being more luxurious,which I don't think is purely down to
price. It also comes down todesign. It's like the way it's designed
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is smarter or more comfortable or moreconvenient than any other phone. So that's
why if it is a status symbol, it's not purely just from expense.
There's more to it than that.I hope you on are talking about the
Dodge Taytona and the next DV putcast. That's gonna be all on Mike.
(01:05:54):
If Mike brings it up, maybe, but I'm not bringing it up.
I don't think it's worth talking about. But for the same reason, that's
why I don't like being a criticalguy. Some people like the rant,
but I just I can't. Ican't make a living on rant. I'm
sorry. Bert Jansen, twenty ninemonths of support. Holy cal thank you
(01:06:15):
very much, very kind of you. Like while Samsung is hyping two hundred
megapixel one in a third inch censor, twelve to one binning, et cetera,
whereas Apple is busy telling you howthe iPhone will save your life with
crash detection. Oh yeah, that'spretty effective marketing, I will say,
though, I've seen a lot ofcomparisons of the S twenty four Ultra with
their new anti reflective coating. Wow, that looks marvelous. I hope that
(01:06:40):
comes to an iPhone. It looksgreat, not one country talking about all
developing countries like India, Pakistan,Bangladesh. Yeah, I mean I could
understand that being status symbols, butI don't know how much that sales really
push it because of that, LikeI need to buy an iPhone so I
come across as more successful. Idon't know. I've been to developing nations.
(01:07:04):
I don't see a lot of peoplethinking that way. Maybe some people
do, but I don't think that'sthe only reason. And again, like
I said, iPhones aren't the mostexpensive phones, so there's a reason that
they have that positive association with them. I don't know. I hear about
that in the comments, especially whenandroids are talking about it. And androids
(01:07:28):
are talking about why iPhones are successful, they usually try to come up with,
oh, well, it's not aboutthe product actually being good. They
don't like to acknowledge that. It'slike, well, I'll come up with
any any way to justify its growthwithout acknowledging that it might do something better.
So they usually come down to,oh, well, people buy them
as status. I go there.I don't see people using that argument.
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Oh my god, that guy hasan iPhone. I know because I've been
to developing nations with an iPhone.People don't look at me because of that.
They look at me because I havered hair. Still upset that they
still buy the inferior iPhone fourteen outof all the better options. Yeah,
I don't understand why the iPhone fourteensells well. I refuse to believe it's
(01:08:13):
because of some feature it has overthe iPhone thirteen. I think it's because
people don't want to, you know, they want an iPhone. They get
that far, but they don't wantto you know, cross shop or figure
out which one has the features theywant. They just well, that's the
newer one, so I'll buy thatone. iPhone has been and always been
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expensive from other countries since the beginning. Well, Android phones are known to
be cheaper in those countries as well, to get more sales perception, right
there, Sure it's perception, butI'm just saying iPhones tend to be more
expensive, but they are not themost expensive. Like the z Fold,
I don't think would carry the samestatus symbol even though it's more expensive than
an iPhone. It was only importedwith heavily taxes. Now with base iPhones
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are being assembled in India, otherprices have dropped in more accessible So why
is it so status symbol if it'sprices dropped so much. I agree about
the anti reflectivity, although just atip, if you can stomach screen protectors,
you can get almost the same resultwith a flow lab nano armor three
D. The anti reflectivity is insane. Sorry, I can't stomach screen protectors.
I just really don't like them.I would even though my phone has
(01:09:23):
gotten scratched up because of it.I still really like the way my phone
feels without a screen protector. Dylansays, I see a lot more fourteen
pluses than I wish I did.That makes sense. The rest of the
devices are not cheap, but theywork so well together on a level that
I haven't seen on any other brand. They have all the options, but
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they don't work as well together.That's true. You want to come to
iPhone? Yeah, you know howmany years that will take? Right?
No? I don't one. Youbuy it and then you have it.
Status symbol is now my vision prosjob. I hate how many people have
taken videos then people think it's realof people like walking around with Apple Vision
(01:10:06):
Pro on, I'm like, they'renot using it, Like, that's not
spatial computing. They're just using thepass through, which is just a fuzzier,
worse way to look at the realworld. There's all these videos of
people with Apple Vision Pro walking arounddoing this. I'm like, you can't
pin the windows to move with you. That doesn't work. It only works
(01:10:26):
when you're sitting and you put thewindows around you. But if you walk,
you walk right through the windows,the windows won't move with you.
So whenever I see those stupid videosof people walking around or doing things with
Apple Vision Pro, like, that'sjust the dumbest. It's the dumbest way
to use it. It'd be like, I don't know, it's the equivalent
of like holding the iPhone backwards.It's like, look at people on their
(01:10:50):
phones all the time. It's likeyou're just doing this or something. I
don't know. It'd be like wearingwired headphones that aren't plugged into any thing.
It's like you're just, yeah,that's that's a status symbol that'll die
off, that won't last too long. Last week, a big YouTuber made
a video comparing Apple products to Samsungproducts. She admitted the Samsung products being
(01:11:11):
better, but just kept preferring Applejust because she wants to fit in.
Eh again, I my sister isa great example. I mean, she
had an Android when she moved hereand did not want an iPhone. But
you know, her old it wasa SHOOMI phone didn't work here, so
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I was like, you're just sorry, but I'll switch you to an old
iPhone I have. We had anold iPhone laying around, so I switched
her to an iPhone and it didnot result in some kind of social association.
I really don't think. I mean, people say that, but I
don't think that's most people. Idon't think they buy the iPhone just so
they can fit in. And evenif they do, there was some way
(01:11:57):
the iPhone earned that street cred.I don't think people just flocked to brands
for no reason. They flocked tobrands. You know, there's brand power,
but brand power has to be earned. You can't just get a brand
power from nothing. Do you thinkit will be an Apple March event?
Rumors are saying no, I thinkwe're just getting site refreshes near the end
of the month. According to MarkGerman, do you think the pass through
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on vision pro could be enhanced withsoftware updates or is it purely going to
be on I think it's more ofa hardware limitation. I don't think there's
much the software can do. Teslawas able to improve their video on old
models, not to the newest hardwarewith over the year update. I found
a more efficient way to compress thedata or something like that. They mainly
(01:12:39):
just color corrected it and it increasedthe sharpness. I had the Tesla before
that hardware three update and after,and it was noticeably better, but it
was mainly because the video was notcolor corrected before that update, whereas Apple
put a ton of time and attentioninto the color correction and the frame rates
(01:13:00):
and stuff before the launch, whereasfor Tesla it was more of an afterthought.
It was like, oh, yeah, we have these cameras. I
guess we should probably update the colorso it looks a bit more lifelike.
My friends have Samsung Ultras and theytried the air drop equivalent feature and we
found out that it works, butit's jenkin takes effort to get to it.
The speat is fine, but youfeel repelled to Yeah. I really
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think animations come down more than peoplerealize there's something about the feel that people
keep describing. I keep coming backto the way iOS and the way mac
Os feels something about it just feelsmore natural, more fluid, more convenient.
Even though yes, there's still thesame exact features available on Android,
(01:13:44):
but they all feel more. Likeyou said, you feel repelled trying to
use it. It doesn't feel asclean, it doesn't feel as fluid.
Everything feels a little bit more jink. Yeah, Like Adeith is saying,
animation physics play a big role inhow natural it looks. I think that
matters more than people realize. Itdoesn't sound that like that big a deal
(01:14:06):
if we're just talking on a technicallevel, like, yeah, it's not
that impressive. That Okay, theiOS animation looks like this and the Android
animation looks like this. They're bothhonestly very similar to each other. Last
time I used a pixel it waslike, yeah, I mean I can
get used to this. It's fine, But is it better the way I
described it that I'm not sure istrue, but I'm gonna say it's true.
(01:14:30):
Is it often feels like Apple hasa team of therapists and philosophers that
look at icons and look at colorcombinations and look at graphic design, and
they figure out exactly what brings themost amount of dopamine to the human brain.
(01:14:55):
They figure out how to replicate itthe best they can, Like,
Okay, what results in the mostpositive reaction, the most positive response to
this arrow or to this color,or to this arrangement of apps, And
they figure out what results they haveall this research being done on the mental
effects of being shown all these images, this one resulted in the most positive
reaction, This animation resulted in themost happy response, and then they implement
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those and most companies probably just dothat. Bro's describing the human Interface team
exactly, Yes, thank you.The human interface is just like, how
do we how do we make thisthe most addictive, most human like experience
possible. I feel better using aniPhone. There's something weird about that that's
(01:15:44):
trippy when it starts to And that'sthat's what Steve Jobs talked a lot about
too when introducing the iPhone. Itknows you. It's not meant to be
a product you use, It's meantto be an extension of you. He
talks like that about the Originally itwas like it's it's a reflection of yourself,
to the point that that's why weget so defensive about it. Like
(01:16:04):
someone else picks up your phone andstarts using it, you very quickly are
like, okay, give that back. And there's this weird sensation, especially
if you've used an Android phone fora while and then you go back to
an iPhone, there's this sense offresh air. It's like you suddenly feel
like you can breathe again. It'sa creepy thing. It's very disturbing how
(01:16:27):
they kind of know how we feel, how we look at things, and
it's very hard to replicate, whichis often why a lot of Chinese smartphone
companies like this one basically just emulatethe iOS experience the very best they can.
There's a bunch of features on Androidwhere they just straight up say,
well just rip that from iOS.Just do the exact same thing, you
(01:16:49):
know, like control center, youknow they put it in the top right
corner, the multitasking, just thegesture control. There's so many things where
they're like, well, Apple figuredout that people like that, so we
should probably just do what Apple didbecause that seems to work. Hey Bail
says, as someone who generally dislikesApple products. I will acknowledge that they
(01:17:12):
are nice to use. Why Istill don't like them is because of locking
down the hardware through software like nosideloading. Well, I got good news
if you live in the European Union, because that's becoming possible slowly. I
think you or everyone should watch designFluid Interface from Apple. Lots of things
can be learned from there on howApple builds things. Yeah, I think
I have seen that, and thatis an interesting dissection of UI design.
(01:17:36):
What if Johnny I've designed the AppleVision Pro, probably be thinner, probably
be lighter, but probably be worsesomehow. I don't know. Resolution would
be worse, battery life might beworse. I don't know what he would
do. You can look at sixtyhertz and instantly notice it's rights there.
Maybe people have bad eye. Iknow people that genuinely don't notice I show
(01:18:00):
them. I don't think they're fakingit, and I don't think there's something
wrong with their eyes. I thinkit's genuinely just too small a difference for
some people to pick up on,or at least care about. I did
I my cousin, who's my age? He's not some older guy or something.
My cousin had a twelve Pro orsomething and I had a thirteen Pro
and he said, well, whatdid they change on that? And I
said, well, the big thingwas the pro motion display, so the
(01:18:23):
refresh rate's a lot smoother. AndI showed it to him and he has
a twelve Pro. He's just atwelve Pro for like over a year at
that point, and I compare themand he was like, what he said,
don't you see how it's like,you know, there's more frames between
the animations, And he was like, what are you talking about. He
genuinely could not see it. Idon't think he was faking, and I
(01:18:44):
don't think he has bad eyesight.I have worse eyesight than I probably need
glasses and he doesn't. But there'sgenuinely people that do not notice mark sequences.
Physics, fluidity and Vision Pro isawesome. Everything is weightless but has
mass to its still hard to explain, but very satisfying, tossing the windows
around, for example, glide awayfrom you. I do think that's a
(01:19:09):
distinct advantage Apple Vision Pro has.It's that Apple designed UI that makes everything
feel so lifelike. It's part ofthe reason I think it makes so much
sense for Apple to go into thespatial computing space because the things we're all
talking about, That fluidity and thatsimplicity of their software design gives them,
(01:19:30):
I think, a distinct advantage overanyone else that makes a mixed reality headset.
And while the hardware was very impressive, it's kind of the whole iOS
Android topic all over again. TheAndroid has a better this, Android has
a better this When I use theQuest three. The hardware was genuinely impressive,
but the software definitely felt like Iwas using magical floating Android tablet.
(01:19:56):
But that includes all of the badparts of Android tablets. It's just everything.
It feels a little bit more clunky, a little bit less intuitive,
a little bit more clunk click click, But Apple has all these hardware limitations
with the external battery and the additionalweight, and of course it's seven times
the price. Did I ever tryto imitate your setup? I showed you
(01:20:18):
have a phone in Mac having anexact same home screens just the doc No.
I really wanted to, but Inever got around to it. I've
just been too dang busy, dude. I haven't changed my wallpaper in probably
years at this point. I'm actuallydaily driving both A sixty Hurts iPhone one
hundred and twenty Hurts Android. Androidfelt smooth and fast, but iPhone is
(01:20:40):
also really good even at sixty HURTZ. Yeah, I know what you mean.
There's something about that animation that humaninterface team Torri Aspen says. When
do I think a new Apple TVwill come? And do you think they'll
change it like a screen or otherthing. Who's to say. They've been
talking about doing a dedicated television sinceas long as I've followed Apple, and
(01:21:00):
they've never done it. So I'mconvinced if they wanted to do one,
they would have done it by now. I want them to do one.
I think it would be better thaneverybody else's. But they kind of refreshed
it with the what was it theA fifteen chip a lot sooner than I
expected, just so they could getthat stupid Apple Music sing feature. But
an A fifteen chip and an AppleTV already feels really overkill for me.
(01:21:23):
But it is cheaper and the serialboats type C, which is the best
thing about it. But yeah,I don't I don't know why they would
update it. The only thing Icould see them doing is if They kind
of combined the home pod and theApple TV into just like a big sound
bar that you can control like ahome pod, but it also hooks up
to your TV and it's a greatsound system, and it could have a
(01:21:43):
little center stage camera for FaceTime callsand stuff. We've talked about that for
years and it's just it's never goneanywhere. So I wanted to exist,
but it doesn't. In my case. Once I went to under twenty herds,
I could never go back. Iwas going to get iPhone fourteen and
there was no way that was goingto work because I also have ibad Bron
macmcpro. It's possible. I didit. I used a thirteen Pro Max
(01:22:03):
for over a year and then Iswitched to an iPhone ten. It takes
a lot of therapy and it's alittle hard on the eyes, but it
is possible. It helped a lotbecause I was trying to use my smartphone
less. I felt addicted to mysmartphone. I still feel addicted by the
way, and I was using itso much that I was like, I
kind of am ok downgrading because forone, I missed the smaller phones,
(01:22:25):
and the iPhone ten was really comfortableto hold. Also, my mom wanted
my thirteen promacs and she kept askingwhen she could have it. So I
finally was like, okay, let'sjust switch because also that gives me something
to talk about, and the newswasn't that exciting at the time anyway,
So I switched to the iPhone ten, and of course the battery life was
worse and the refresh rate was worse, but that helped me use it less,
(01:22:48):
but honestly, I still probably usedit a lot. And now it's
come full circle because I'm back ona fifteen pro and I'm still very addicted
to it, and I've hasn't helpedthat has started paying me now, So
now I feel even more motivated touse my phone because it's like, well,
I'm literally getting paid to just sendtweets now, So that definitely didn't
(01:23:10):
help with the smartphone addiction. Thestudio displays a prime example of why you
actually don't want a literal Apple TV, even if it was expensive. I
think it'd be cool, just likeI mean, Apple makes all kinds of
expensive products that I would never buy. They made a fifty thousand dollars MacPro.
I would have said that's ridiculous,but they did it, So what's
(01:23:30):
so crazy about Apple making like asix or eight thousand dollars o lead TV?
That's really cool. You should shareyour ad. It's not much.
It's like a couple hundred bucks amonth. It's not like, you know,
life changing revenue, but it's morethan nothing, which is what I
would get on any other social mediaplatform. Would I ever switch to the
(01:23:53):
S twenty four Ultra? I wasgiven a free one. That's the price.
I don't think it would be worthbuying one. But I've said on
the record, I think if Googleadded me back to Team Pixel, I
think that's the only way I wouldconsider. The main reason being because the
(01:24:15):
only way I have been community notedyet, I thought that would affect my
AD revenue more. But it's itwasn't. It wasn't that much. Was
I gonna say, Oh, ifGoogle added me to Team Pixel, that's
the only way I could justify switching, because I could then keep my iPhone.
(01:24:35):
If I'm going to be buying theAndroid phone itself, then it turns
into this weird like, Okay,well, now should I sell the iPhone
off or should I just have both? Then I'm kind of a more minimalistic
guy. So I don't want tohave you know, I don't want to
buy two flagships really if I don'tneed to. But if a company is
(01:24:56):
like actively saying we want you toreview this, we want you to document
their experience, I don't want themto pay me. But if they sent
me the phone, then I would. I would be more open to it.
I don't think I'm getting back onTeam Pixel either, but that's my
price. When people say would youreview it? S twenty four, I
don't know if Samsung wanted me tosure or nothing. Nothing has sent phones
(01:25:20):
to people, and I've reached outto them, but they've they've never reached
back out. I think the iPhoneeleven should be fine for the next three
years. Yeah, probably. iPhoneeleven is a good phone. Can you
go back to an iPhone eleven andtwenty twenty four? Well, I was
using an iPhone eleven before I gotmy fifteen Pro, so yeah, that
was just a couple months ago.Apple Watch Ultra two battery Is it me
(01:25:42):
or is it draining faster? Well, every time you use it, it
cycles it so it deteriorates a bitmore So if that makes sense, What
did you think about MVHD single handedlyruining fits Grotian, Oh don't. I
don't think he single handedly ruined them. He probably weakened the demand for them,
but the demand for them was notthat high anyway. Fiske Ocean ruined
Fiskarochan by designing a car that couldn'tbe scaled profitably. That's their fault.
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That's not Marquez's fault. It's liketrying to think of a good example that's
not dark humor. That's like blamingthe firefighters for not getting to the house
that burned down because of the stovebeing left on, you know, like,
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I mean, the firefighters could havecome earlier, but they're not the
ones who start the fire, right. I got kicked out of Team Pixel
years ago. I want to saythat was five years ago. Now it
was a long time ago, probablybecause they sent me a phone and I
didn't like it, so I reviewedit and said, this isn't a very
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good phone. So then they stoppedsending me phones. But I've always said,
like, you can send me stuff, but I'll never sign a contract.
The one thing I won't agree tois a script or any affiliate deal
like where they pay me and Iwon't. I won't through sponsorships. But
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if they want to send me thephone, that's great. Cool. I'll
be more inclined to review it ifthe company is willing to pay for the
phone. But that doesn't mean I'mgoing to like it. That doesn't mean
I'm going to give it a positiveendorsement just because they paid for it.
Same thing with this Dougie phone.This only reason I have this is because
it was a gift. It wasjust sent to me by the company.
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And what's funny is even after Ireviewed it and said, I mean,
it's kind of interesting and weird,but would I buy it? No?
Should you buy it? No?Not really, I didn't really recommend it,
but the company kept sending me.They wanted to send me more of
those phones, and I was like, they're all kind of the same,
so I said, no thanks.But they make tablets too. They want
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me to review the tablets, andI'm just like, I don't care.
And when MacBook still feels brand new, I've never had this experience of it.
Yeah, that's what Mike's been sayingabout his m one Air as well.
Will you keep lightning remote even ifwife switches to S four? Probably
just because I think I've charged myApple TV remote twice in the past year,
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so it's kind of hard to justifyreplacing the whole remote over that.
But I don't know. I don'tthink I would buy a brand new USBC
remote either if I really got annoyedwith it just being the last light.
Even if my wife switches to theSC four, she still has an iPad
Pro that's lightning, so there's lightningcables around. I'm not going to get
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rid of every lightning cable in thehouse overnight, so I'll just slowly wait
for everything to die. I shouldget the tablet. I don't know.
You should see these tablets. Idon't even want an Apple made tablet what.
I just don't like collecting things.As someone who has moved several times
and lives in a, you know, relatively small house, I don't like
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collecting a bunch of stuff. Ilove getting rid of things. I love
selling things. I can't believe Ispent like seventy two hours in constant anticipation
for the new iPads only for themto not drop it. I know,
I was surprised by that too.I thought we got a MacBook Air last
week. This would be the iPadweek but no, that's not it.
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Yeah, fifty nine dollars just toget USBC. I wouldn't buy one new.
I would probably just find one oneBay or Facebook marketplace. And you're
not going to move anymore, right, Yeah, I don't know. I
don't I don't plan that far outthere. There's a chance I could move
again. We talked, We've talkedabout it. There's the market's not really
(01:29:44):
good right now with the interest ratesthe way they are, but we might
we might move another time. Imight want to move somewhere where I can
get fiber internet because I'm getting prettysick of all the either Starlink or T
Mobile home Internet or Verizon Home Internet. I'm just I'm after a while,
I kind of get sick and Ican't get fiber internet where I live.
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But there's some places not too farfrom here I could move to that would
have it, and that would thatwould be pretty tempting, and just you
know, a bigger house that wouldbe better at hosting people, or you
know, if I have a familysomeday, that kind of thing. You
know, you want to have somemore space. This is a good starter
home for us it's been good,but I don't know if it's our forever
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home. But still, I justeven even if I wasn't moving, I
like not having too many things.It gets overwhelming and it gets annoying,
especially when you do cleaning and youwant to make room for the stuff in
your life that you do care about, that you do value. Unburden yourself.
Amen. On the fiber Internet,Yeah, that's that's slowly becoming like
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mandatory on my next house. HaveI considered AT and T fiber? It's
not an option here. I've tried, me, I've tried. They'll often
cover the installation fees in certain areas. Yeah, in certain areas. Not
this one. No, I've checked, trust me. I've checked with everybody
who offers fiber and that they do. They will not route a cable out
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here. It's not a thing.Way more than enough to receive phones to
address eh. The subscribers don't meanmuch. If Eptera never goes into production
and you needed a second car,would you reserve an R three or a
Model Y. It's a very specificsituation. I don't know why we would
need a second car. We alreadyhave two cars. I don't know.
(01:31:40):
I guess it would depend on thepricing. We don't know the pricing of
the R three, and I don'tknow what the used market on model wise
will look like. As long asTesla has a referral program in Rivian doesn't,
I'm heavily financially incentivized to keep buyingTesla's. They really got me there.
I'm sorry, it's I know itsounds biased, and it honestly is
very biased and skewed. But it'slike, if I have to pay for
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electricity or not pay for electricity,which car do you think I'm going to
buy? Electricity is getting more andmore expensive, especially where I live,
So to charge up an R threeand drive it around every month, as
long as the referral program situation doesn'tchange, it's gonna be like one hundred
(01:32:24):
bucks a month more to own thatthan it was than it would Tesla.
And I love the R three,But if Tesla gets rid of the free
supercharging and Tesla, you know,reworks the referral program so that I can't
charge it for free, then I'dbe a lot more open to buying non
Teslas, because then it's like,Okay, I'm paying for electricity no matter
(01:32:45):
what. So we'll see how theactual efficiency of the R three is when
it comes out. I really likethe R three. I would really like
to own one, but it's justthe numbers got to make sense because I
already have spent a lot of moneyon my EV and it's a great car.
We drove it a lot yesterday.Honestly, I spent so much time
in the car yesterday I edited liketwo videos and uploaded one and we hung
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out at the charger before we wentto dinner with our friends. And man,
it's a great vehicle. There's honestlynothing wrong with it. And because
I work from home, there's verylittle reason for us to buy another car.
But yeah, we'll see. We'llcross that bridge when we get there.
But the referral program has got achange in some way for Rivian and
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Tesla. For Rivian it would haveto exist, and then an adventure network
would have to be installed closer tome, or Tesla would have to scrap
the free charging, which is apossibility. Which legacy manufacturers make the best
evs. There's some decent ones around. I'm tempted to say Ford just because
(01:33:55):
they have supercharger access now, butsoon everybody will. I don't know.
I like different things about each ofthem, Hyundai and Kiar coming out with
some pretty great stuff, but theyall have the same software issue, which
is they all have dated software.It all comes back to this whole iOS
fluidity and you know the human interfaceteam that's Apple really gets right. And
(01:34:18):
I think Tesla and Rivian also replicateand Aptera. This is actually spoiler alert.
This is what today's EV video isabout. It's about what legacy automakers
get wrong versus what EV startups getright. And it always comes back to
the software. And all of thelegacy automakers have pretty clunky software, so
(01:34:40):
a lot of the time they fallback on Apple and Google to do the
heavy lifting. And that's a goodidea, but it's not as good as
just having a well done OS fromthe ground up. Everything Apple bros.
Is I'm a bit confused about youroverall view one vision pro. I just
missed it. But did you evergive your definitive opinion? Now in the
(01:35:03):
review I explicitly stated I'm not keepingit, and it doesn't have to do
at the price. It has todo with the product. I mean,
sure, the price doesn't help.It's very expensive and it'd be hard to
justify a thirty five hundred dollars expense. But my point after using it for
a couple of weeks was, evenif this thing was one thousand dollars,
it would probably collect dust in myoffice. And as someone who doesn't like
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holding on to tech, that's notuseful. I only want to own what
I need as a minimalist, oras Randy calls me, an essentialist.
That's why I got rid of myApple Watch. It wasn't because I needed
money. It was like two hundredbucks. It's like, that's not going
to make or break anything. Isold it because I wasn't getting much use
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out of it, and I realizedI appreciated traveling lighter. It was.
It was a cool piece of hardware, but I was quickly running into I
was running out of use cases forit. It wasn't a comfort issue.
It wasn't like, oh, Ican't wear this for hours at a time
because it's too uncomfortable. It waslike, no, I just run out
of things to do with it.Because the app market's not too great and
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it's not as convenient as just pullingout a phone. It's a lot more
isolating when you're around other people,and I am around other people a lot,
and that makes other people feel weirdand uncomfortable when they can't see exactly
what you're doing and you're just like, you know, it makes you like
the crazy guy in the room.So I don't spend a lot of time
alone, you know. The bestuse cases for Apple Vision pro Burkhardt on
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his Twitter page wrote a good articleabout it. He was like, here
are the strengths, And I thinkthe three strengths were like watching movies and
TV shows using the Mac as anexternal monitor. There was something else I'm
blinking on the third thing. Butthe problem with using it as an external
monitor with the Mac is it's muchmore expensive than an actual external monitor,
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and it's not as portable as Ithought it would be. It was getting
tiring packing it around. I triedto use it on the go. I
took a trip like immediately after gettingit, so I was traveling with it,
and I did not find it thateasy to travel with because of the
girth, because of how tall itis, and it was another thing to
keep track of, and there wastoo many steps, you know, with
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an external monitor. I just plugit into my Mac in boom. I
have a big screen monitor with AppleVision Pro. It's like, okay,
unlock my Mac, put on theVision Pro, unlock the vision Pro connect
by looking over the connect tile,which doesn't always appear, and then all
the windows have to resize and stuff. There's just way too many additional steps.
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Like Zolotech said, it doesn't lookas good. It's not as good
of refresh rate as a real externalmonitor, and it's not as rich of
a display because you're looking at itthrough lenses and goggles and stuff. It's
not the same experience as using anactual external monitor, which is cheaper,
and even as an external monitor onthe go, it's kind of a pain
in the butt to travel around with. And it's so expensive and so fragile
(01:38:05):
that I'm going to feel dangerous carryingit around with me. FaceTime was the
third thing. Oh that's why Iforgot because I didn't. I don't know
if I agreed with that. Itried facetiming people on it, and I
thought it was just creepy and weird. I wouldn't FaceTime anybody that I genuinely
wanted to talk to while wearing it. I would pretty much only FaceTime people
(01:38:26):
as a joke or to show thatit's possible. But for actual FaceTime calls,
I'm usually not by myself. I'musually with my wife or my sister
or a friend or something and we'recalling someone else. It's rarely just me
by myself. So for my lifestyle, even if it was one thousand dollars,
I would have returned it. I'mnot an essentialist, so I think
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it'd be more prone to seeing itas John does. But that's still great
to know. I didn't watch hisreview, but I still am excited for
the future. I'm excited for Visionosdevices. Think there's a lot of room
for improvement, and because it's soflawed is what makes it so exciting.
FaceTime is cool when it's all othertechies who are also using vision Pro.
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But for the average call, Iagree, Yeah, okay, I think
we agree there. For most people, I don't think it'd be a very
good use case. But if I'mwatching movies and TV shows, I'm watching
it with another person, I wouldn'twant to wear the headset because then I'm
the only one who can watch it. Do you think Marquez was wrong to
borrow a car to review from adealer? He didn't get it from Fisker,
(01:39:32):
and the dealer got harsh press outof it in no sale. I
don't know. Personally, I thinkhe's welcome to do that. Marquez reviewed
the product in its current form.People should know people are gonna watch YouTube
videos on products before they buy theproduct, so if the product's not good,
I don't think Marquez did anything wrongPersonally, I don't agree with everything
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Marquez does. I thought the titlewas a little harsh because if you actually
watch the review, he's somewhat positiveabout it. But I think the Fiskerootian
probably resulted in weak sales because theproduct wasn't very good. Marquez just showed
that it wasn't very good. That'snot his fault. What did he do
(01:40:18):
wrong? I don't get it.Do you ever consider doing a collab with
another Apple sheep and YouTube like Zolotech? But that's funny. Several people have
asked me to collab with him,and he seems like a nice guy.
But I don't think people understand whatcollabs are or what they should be,
Like, what does that mean?We just talk? Because I don't think
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he watches my videos and I don'twatch his videos. It's like, you
guys should just get in a roomtogether, like and do what what he
wants to do, just ask eachother questions. I guess I don't know.
I've done pretty big collabs in thepast, and they never really perform
all that great and they're not asinteresting as people think they would be.
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What do you mean you don't agreewith everything MKVHD does besides sort of clickbaiting
the title anything else. No,I just shares opinions sometimes that I don't
agree with, or he makes predictionsthat I don't agree with. That's his
choice, it's his channel. Hecan do what he wants. He also
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thought that Apple wouldn't switch the iPhoneto USBC. I remember watching his video
on it. He said they'll probablygo portless before the European Union mandates the
USBC, And I said, Marquez, you're not reading the law correctly,
because the law says if the deviceis large enough to accommodate for types,
it has to So I was like, you're missing the point. So I,
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yeah, just disagree on certain things, but I'm just saying in that
specific deal or in that specific instanceof the Fiske Grotian, I don't think
he did anything wrong. But wouldyou ever go super out of your comfort
zone and get a phone that usesLinux ox Not unless I had a legitimate
reason to. If I have agood reason to, maybe, but I
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don't think I do. It's kindof slimmy to borrow a car, review
it, and get monetization out ofit, return it, and the dealer
got nothing from it aside from thebad press link to the video. The
dealer didn't have to agree to it. The dealer doesn't. I mean,
it's the dealer's choice to let peoplego out and review the car. I've
done that. I don't think there'sanything wrong with that, especially if it's
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not selling this Grotians weren't selling Ithink that was the bigger problem. So
I are you trying to say thatthe dealer should have tricked people into not
knowing how bad the product was sothat they would buy it and then go,
oh, crap, wait, thisis a bad product. No,
I'm sorry, I'm not gonna I'mnot gonna side with the dealer. Dealers
just trying to flip a car,which I honestly have bigger ethical questions with.
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Marquez is trying to show people howa car is before they buy it,
which is a necessary, crucial partof a buying decision. I've never
even heard of the Oh, thelight phone, Yeah, I have heard
of that. No, I don'tthink that would be a good phone for
me. I don't see the pointin one of those like, oh,
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it's the bare bones. It doesn'tdo anything fancy. It's like, okay,
well, if it doesn't do anythingparticularly well, then I'm not going
to use it. The light phoneis basically good at calling, and that's
like the last thing I do onmy phone is making calls. You definitely
don't need to own the product toreview it, especially if it's a bad
product. That's all the more reasonto just borrow it for a day and
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then give it back. What isit? I mean, the dealer's job
is to buy cars that you thinkpeople would want and then sell those at
a profit, in which case Ithink it's kind of a weird business model
that's kind of dated in the Internetage anyway. I think what makes more
sense is for the manufacturer to makea product and sell it to the consumer,
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not make a product, have adealer by it, and then the
middleman, the dealer, sell itfor a profit. This is like,
imagine if a phone reseller, likeI don't know, a phone stand on
a mall, bought an Escabar phone, and then Marquees went to the shop
and said, hey, can Isee that real quick? Oh wow,
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this Escabar phone sucks and gave itback and now, okay, well,
Marquez made a video about why theEscobar phone sucks. Therefore that phone reseller
isn't going to sell the Escobar phone. It's like, yeah, because the
product sucks. Marquez is just showingwhen a product is not worth it,
which I think is totally acceptable.The product's bad, The product's bad the
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reviewer, unless they're lying about itor being deceitful about it, which I
don't think Marquees was. He wasshowcasing his experience. The title was not
very representative of the product, inmy opinion. He said, this is
like the worst car I've ever reviewed, But then half of the video was
compliments. But if you watch thevideo, you'd know that if you're not
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actually in the market for the car, then you'll read the title and say,
wow, look he bashed the fistgroschand it won't sell. Now,
It's like yeah, but if youreally wanted one, you were going to
buy one anyway, and the reviewwas pretty fair in my opinion, aside
from the title. It was criticalof the software, which is a problem.
And then Fisker. I think it'sreally shady when a company specifically tells
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people not to review a product.I thought that was shady. I didn't
think what Marquez did was shady.If a company says no, don't review
that, why, that's like that'shis job. You're saying, if you
don't think people should review something,then you shouldn't be selling it. Clip
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that capture that. If you're againsta reviewer reviewing a product, don't sell
the product. If you're willing tosell it to an everyday person or an
average consumer, then you open thegates to public criticism, reviewers checking it
out and saying whether or not theythink it's worth it. The bigger problem
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with Fisker is they can't sell vehiclesprofitably. Their problem is not Marquez.
I love the guy, but holycrap, I couldn't believe he ever said
that when it was so obvious.I mean, I thought the video itself
was good. I just thought thetitle was. I don't even know if
he made the title shady to hiresome movie star to review a product for
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money. Yeah, that's kind ofthe inverse. It's far more like,
let's just convince celebrities to endorse productsthat they don't actually believe in. That
happens all the time, and we'rejust like, well, you know,
you know, they need to makea buck. Marquez's strategy is far more
ethical in my opinion. It's like, let me just check out the and
(01:47:00):
if it's bad, I'll say it'sbad. Sometimes that's valuable insight. Oh
about the USBC iPhone, Yeah,I remember that. He was like,
no, they'll go portless, andI was like, my parents were craving
sushi, and so they sent meon a mission to Whole Foods and might
as well felt like a mission toMars, and I was able to patch
them through FaceTime. They picked theirsushi. Congrats. In the realm of
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tech, So do you have anyadvice for me? Talk about things you're
interested in, because that'll help youlast a lot longer. It's a very
oversaturated market. It's very hard toget a tech channel off the ground these
days, when the tech is lessinteresting than it used to be, and
there's so many tech channels now alltalking about the same things. So your
(01:47:45):
best bet is to talk about thingsthat you find genuinely interesting, because if
you do, then even if itdoesn't turn into a job or an income
source, at least you have funalong the way. Try to separate your
self in some way, shape orform. There's not some textbook answer that's
like, just listen to me andyou'll have guaranteed success. There's no guarantees
(01:48:08):
with YouTube. There's nothing as promised. I don't think if I started making
tech videos today I would I wouldbe successful. I think that I got
lucky being in the right place atthe right time when there was less saturation
with the Apple coverage content and therewas more demand for more Apple focused channels,
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and there was more interesting stuff goingon at the company. There was
more things to talk about. Nowthere's less things to talk about, and
there's way more channels, so there'sless demand and more supply, which makes
it very hard to get off theground. So if you if you're focused
on things that are genuinely interesting toyou, then it'll be more enjoyable than
(01:48:54):
if you're counting on well, thiswill be fun if I get views and
get paid from it because I honestlydon't know how likely that is anymore.
I've got a relatively big channel andI'm still trying to figure out how to
make this whole thing work. I'mstill making this up as I go.
A lot of big creators seemingly didn'tread the common charger law from the EU.
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It was frustrating when so many aretalking about portless. I appreciate you
spreading the separating the signal from thenoise. Thanks Mike. When it comes
to games and movies, of thereview embargo is on the day of release
or after. That's usually a redflag. Well Apple does that too,
but you can tell that when there'san embargo signed, they don't say whatever
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they want to say. They don'thave complete control over their opinion, which
is why I don't do those things. I like being able to say if
I really like something, I'll sayit, But if I really don't like
something, I also want the optionto say it. I can't believe the
(01:49:58):
artwork has an updated on Apple potI've been emailing Apple. I contacted Spreaker,
our podcast hosting service, and Isaid, why, Well, the
artwork update on Apple? It updatedon everything else, it updated for Google
Podcasts. It updated for Spotify,but it wouldn't update for Apple, and
I contacted Spreaker and they said,there's nothing we can do about it.
That's all on Apple. So Icontacted Apple, and Apple said we'll refresh
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them internally, and they refresh thewrong ones. I guess, the normal
tailos of tech and EV audio forms, like the you know, I take
my YouTube videos that I upload andjust convert them into podcasts, those updated,
but the actual, you know,hour long tailous of tech and EV
podcasts they wouldn't update. And Iwas like, no, you refreshed the
(01:50:43):
wrong ones, Like I want torefresh all six of these, and I
sent them like, here's the tailorsof tech streams, here's the tailos of
EV streams, here's the tails oftech podcast tailos of tech just regular,
and they're not. They're they're beingso slow about it, and they said,
Okay, maybe it'll refresh if youdelete the app, unfollow the show,
and then re download the app andfollow the shows again. And I
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was like, why is this nota problem on Spotify? It updated on
Spotify like that, like instantly,with the same hosting service, so I
know it's not Spreaker's fault. Iknow it's on Apple, and I've been
emailing them back and forth. Usuallythey send me an email and say,
okay, I looked at the youknow, the normal episodes where it's just
(01:51:26):
you know, five to six minutesbecause it's just the YouTube videos and audio
form and those refreshed. So theperson said, hey, look they're already
updated. You're welcome. Problem solved. And I said no, no,
no, no, no, yougot to refresh all of them, not
just those two. And I respondwithin five minutes of them emailing me,
and then I don't hear back fromthem for like a day, so they
take forever to get back to me, and I have no clue what their
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problem is. I don't know whyit's so hard for them to update artwork
because no one else is having thatissue. I've done everything right on my
end. And for some reason,why are you're not interested in covering crypto
even though it's still tech Because it'sjust a big giant scam. What else
is there to talk about with crypto? Guys? The values up today.
(01:52:14):
People aren't buying crypto because they thinkit's the future of currency. They're buying
it to make a buck because it'sunregulated and it doesn't close like the stock
market closes. I'm very close tocashing out all my crypto because it seems
to be at an all time highat the moment. So I'm kind of
like, yeah, I don't reallybelieve in this, but people have sent
me crypto in the past. Ihaven't bought any, but I'm just like,
(01:52:38):
yeah, if you want to giveme some imaginary currency, I guess
I'll take it. But yes,I'm still on my OE tires. I
got them rotated last week and theguy said that they still look great.
They still look fine, So thatkind of helps. When I'm a featherfoot
lawyers exist my parents just to giveup on YouTube as a creator? What
(01:53:00):
is your motivation and do you gotany tips? It helps if you're interested
in what you're talking about. Ithink that's what I just keep coming back
to. You should definitely cash outall your crypto right now if you have
some. Well I did that before, and I would have had more money
now if I didn't cash out early. So every day that it goes up,
(01:53:24):
I'm grateful I haven't cashed out,but it should help me cover my
losses on Canoe. Actually, Ithink it covers all of it. Yeah,
so all of the money I'll makefrom crypto will cover all the losses
from investing in Canoe, which wasa big mistake. I'm waiting for elon
(01:53:46):
make my five dollars of doe goto the mood. Yeah. I have
some doge coin as well, butit's just it was a gift. I
would say, have a backup plan. That's what I had for YouTube.
I didn't bet my whole life onit, Like, if this doesn't work
out, I will have no job. I would say, talk about things
that are interested in. Have abackup plan. You know, I didn't
(01:54:10):
just straight out of high school doYouTube full time. I worked a regular
job that made you know, realmoney so that I could pay my bills,
and I did YouTube on the side. And then I worked that regular
job until YouTube was making enough forme to quit. So I wouldn't.
I wouldn't just you know, liveon unemployment or not make any money out
(01:54:30):
of school. You know, ifYouTube should always be a side project first,
and if it takes off, thengreat, but there's no guarantees,
so don't count on it taking offbecause there's no promises, no guarantees with
YouTube careers, they can come andgo. They can they can leave just
as fast as they arrive. Andif you talk about things are interested in,
(01:54:54):
then at least you'll be enjoying yourselfalong the way. Yeah, Crypto's
just a bunch of pump and dumps. That's why there's so many crypto scams.
It's because it's unregulated, so it'smuch much easier to scam people with
crypto than anything else. Canoe isstill they're not dead yet, but they're
a heavily depreciated electric vehicle company thatApple almost bought, and all the reports
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are saying that Apple the Apple Carinternally looked a lot like the Canoe electric
vehicle. Consistency is what matters whenmaking YouTube content. It gives viewers confidence
that you'll be around in the longterm. Yeah, that's a good advice,
mar Jill, thanks for saying that. Yeah, if you're still in
high school, then just keep youroptions open. You know, don't assume
that you're definitely going to make itin YouTube, and you don't have to
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prepare for any other jobs or careersanyway. Seems like t mobiles freaking out,
So now's a good time to wrapup the stream, but I appreciate
you all for your support, yourgenerosity, thank you for tuning in,
and I'll chat with you all morelater. Have an excellent rest of your
day, Bobby,
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Goodmore long and thanks for tuning in to
Taylor's of Tech Live on YouTube.We're kicking off today's live stream with kind
of a big message we got,but an interesting one nonetheless, also by
one of our favorites, at leastmy personal favorite supporters, because he was
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one of the insane and rare nowTaylor's of Tech Ultra members, So I
feel inclined to answer him first.But of course we'll we'll talk about all
kinds of things. This is justwhat we're kicking off today's livestrom you.
But get comfy, get your popcornready, because this is a big subject
and one that was such a bigquestion that I almost considered making a video
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about it. Then I realized,nope, you know what, this video
would be too long and I wouldrather have this conversation publicly in real time
with you guys, because I wantto get your thoughts on this subject as
well. But yes, it's aboutApple's leak culture. This absolutely affects my
channel our day to day because alot of what we talk about on this
channel is what is yet to come, what are we waiting for, what's
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coming next? You know's that's alot of what we talk about here.
So I'm just gonna read the wholemessage so you guys can fully understand what
I'm trying to answer. But thiscomes from Nicholas Linthicum two eight seven to
one. Once again, thank youfor your insane generosity. He says,
I know you yourself have personally saidyou're bored the following the leaks for Apple
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products. I mean, yeah,that's I mean relatively bored. I mean
I would rather talk about Apple leaksand rumors than I would like sports because
I'm not a sports guy. Soit's like, it's not the most interesting
thing going on in my life rightnow. But just to be clear,
I still get mildly curious whenever Ifind out about Apple working on something.
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I'm always like, hmm, doesthat sound real? Does that not sound
real? It kind of pertains tomy job, yes, but at the
same time, it's not as interestingas it you to be. That's that's
fair. But Nicholas says, asa company, do you think Apple still
truly cares about the leak culture likethey did during the iPhone four days?
Which is kind of a very differentstage of Apple. So I would argue
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probably less so, just because there'sbeen so many iPhones since then. So
that's question number one is do theystill care about it as much as they
do? I mean, clearly,Apple still very much wants to keep things
under wraps. They like to surprisepeople. They don't like everything to leak.
But Apple probably is now aware afterso many years of Internet culture being
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around and YouTube leak culture being aroundfor so long, they probably have admitted
defeat to a certain extent and justaccepted that, Okay, you know,
so much of our manufacturing and somuch of our stuff is outsourced, and
so much of our CAD files leakearly, or we have to send out
renders early for case manufacturers, there'sno way we can just keep all of
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this under apps one hundred percent ofthe time. They do their best,
but I don't think they necessarily thinkit's the end of the world when something
leaks, or they have to scrapthe product or change the product so that
it doesn't follow the leaks. Idon't think they care that much, but
they do what they can. Andthen question number two from Nicholas is it
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seems most of the product leaks areso accurate due to manufacturers being overseas.
They do not care to release thingsearly. Do you ever see a future
where Apple can try to stop theoverseas leakage? Pretty much The only scenario
in which I could envision them stoppingis if they started, I don't know,
manufacturing more things. Even domestically.Stuff leaks though all the time.
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It's not like it's not like ifthey built iPhones in the US somehow they
could keep them more under wraps.What probably would help them keep iPhone designs
or Mac designs or iPad refreshes moreunder wraps is if Apple did their own
manufacturing. Again, I don't thinkthat would completely stop it, because there's
always going to be sources that,you know, journalists can have contact with
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and say, hey, you knowwhat's going on today, what's Apple working
on? And things slip out.Humans are not perfect, humans are not
flawless. But the less humans youget involved in the manufacturing process, and
typically there is more and more automationthe more time goes by. There's certain
aspects of iPhone production that have beena lot more automated in recent years than
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previous, but there are still humans. But if we did ever reach a
point where Apple found a way toalmost completely and entirely manufacture all of their
tech autonomously. It would probably bea lot easier to keep things under wraps
and harder to find out. Butmy guess is there's just certain things that
humans are not very good at replicating. Kavon Javid, thank you for five
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months of support, by the way, that's very kind of you, Thank
you, thank you. I triedto join the discord, but I couldn't
find the link. It's just discorddot gg slash helosuf. I think we
have our own custom URL, sojust look it up. I'm sure some
I'm sure it's somewhere. And thennumber three, I think is the big
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one. It is a given thatsoftware is inherently harder to leak because anything
could be scrapped or changed. Lastsecond, however, do I think Apple
inherently trolls us when it comes toleaking product events marketing. It seems like
it would take a while to getout, but it seems as if there
is a rumored Apple event but thenplans totally changed last second. To me,
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Apple probably needs time to host evena virtual event, especially if they
want press at the park to film, or even enough time to get products
to the reviewers. It seems likewe are getting a taste of that this
year with the spring site refreshes,but a couple of years, a couple
of years ago, I think hemeant we also had this during the spring
as well with the rumored March twentythird, twenty twenty one event, and
then it got pushed to April oftwenty twenty one for the Spring Loaded event.
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Yeah, I think personally I couldbe wrong, but I think us
leakers think we're more important than wereally are. Well I'm not a leaker,
but but people in the leak communitythink we have a bigger effect.
Like a lot of the time peoplehave this thank you Randy, Randy just
posted it. A lot of thetime. I think people have this expectation
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that, oh, well, becauselots of people reported on this announcement,
or because lots of people leaked thatthis happened, Apple decided to change their
mind just to throw all the leakersoff. And I mean, that's that's
a funny idea. It's it's hilariousfor making skits like I do. Like
let's joke about Tim Cook changing theproduct release cycle just to make Mark German
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look bad. But genuinely. Ithink Apple's a big company. They're likely
very structured. They likely have certaincalendar, you know, events scheduled with
marketing guys and release guys and interviewsthat are you know, in PR departments
that are all ready for particular launches. My personal guess is they mostly stick
to the plan, and a lotof their plans are made months in advance,
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and a lot of the time we'rewrong, and it makes the leak
community feel a lot more vindicated orvalidated if they say, oh, well,
Apple was gonna do what I said, but they changed their mind later,
because then they find a way tobe wrong but also be right at
the same time. I would say, like ninety nine or ninety five percent
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of the time the leakers are justwrong. I don't think it's really Apple
changing things at the last second oryou know, changing that many things around
purely because of oh well, weneed the leak community to be wrong.
I mean, I'm not against theconcept of Apple delaying things or canceling things
or pushing things back, but Idon't think it's because they want leakers to
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be thrown off, or they wantto throw off the media or surprise people
or surpass expectations in some way.I think they probably delay in post pone
things, but it's probably more todo with the product than it is what
the leakers are actually saying, SoI hope that answers your question. Automation
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means more humans involved in development stage, surely, possibly, But I mean
there's probably a certain amount of humansinvolved in that regardless. You still have
to have a human involved to figureout what a human's going to do.
So those people who are designing theassembly process are there regardless of if it's
automated or man made. But yeah, robots have a harder time leaking things.
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I have a conspiracy theory that iPad'sonly stuck around as R and D
for Apple Silicon for the Mac.It does kind of feel like the iPad
hardware team is purely there just toexperiment with what they can do hardware wise,
because the iPad hardware is always wayup here. But then iPad OS
development is always like a sub sectionof iOS, Like all of the software
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team just works on iOS and thenat the last second they're like, okay,
well, also you should probably optimizethat stuff for the iPad hardware.
You should probably bring some of thatiPhone iOS features to the iPad as well.
There's so little time and attention putinto the iPad software, but there
is all of these like hardware exercises. I think a lot of the time.
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Don't call me surely, hey Dad. Good to see it as anything
leaked with Apple's AI model, notreally. All we know is Tim Cook
and who was it John turnus haveboth made references to Apple's generative AI features
and said that they're very excited toshow them to us. So that's from
Apple themselves. That's not really aleak. But I agree ipedos is very
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much unthought out and does not takeadvantage of its amazing hardware because iPads have
had great hardware for a while.But I hope that answers Nicholas's questions.
I think I summarized my thoughts prettywell. But we also have other questions
from Taylor's of tech pro members,starting with e Law because he asked next,
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when looking at what Apple does asa company today and comparing it to
Steve Jobs Apple, it seems likeApple has had to become more aware of
other companies. When Steve Jobs wasa part of Products, it was all
about making his vision. Now Isee more parody between companies as Apple releases
products. This could be a sideeffect of reaching peak smartphone, as you
have talked about before. What Iam curious about is if Jobs was still
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around today, do you think hewould still be focused on his vision.
Yeah, but I think you're Ithink I don't know how long you've been
watching Apple e Law, but Ithink you're forgetting a lot of Steve Jobs's
comparisons if you go back and watcha lot of Steve Jobs hosted events,
which were most Apple events back then. He loved to bring up the competition.
Maybe we're remembering two different things,but yes, Steve Jobs was very
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focused on what he thought a productshould be like. He really liked his
vision and even to a certain extent, didn't care as much if the products
sold all that well. He justwanted it to be good, and if,
in some tech specky way, thecompetition did something better, he was
like, well, I don't careabout those textpecs because my vision and making
sure the product is what I wantit to be is what matters in the
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end. But he was slowly becomingmore open minded as the years went by.
He was, you know, willingto have his mind change. But
if you recall back in the iPhoneunveiling, he loved to showcase here's here's
the competition. Here's what a BlackBerry, Here's what a flip phone is capable
of doing versus our phone. Here'swhen he unveiled the iPod, I remember
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him comparing it to you know,a walk band, an MP three player,
and here's the problem with these existingmusic pocketable devices, and here's what
the iPod fixes that with. Orwhen he unveiled the Backbook Air or a
MacBook Pro, he was like,Okay, here's what Sony or Dell has
available today. It's way clunkier,and here's its performance. And this is
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a decent laptop, but ours isbetter. You know. He loved to
do those comparisons. So that's that'swhat I don't quite see the like Steve
didn't want to acknowledge his competition.I would say Apple today is far more
hesitant to talk about the competition thanSteve Jobs was back when he was running
the company. From what I recallwatching a lot of previous Apple keynotes,
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I think he loved to bring upthe competition, particularly if he looked better,
whereas these days Apple gets very vaguewith their comparisons. It's like,
it's it's four times faster than thebest selling PC laptop. What is the
best selling PC laptop? I don'tknow, probably some cheap junkie thing,
or it's five times faster than IntelCore Ice seven processor, and everyone's like,
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well, why are you comparing itto the I seven. There's better
processors than that. So Apple hasto get very selective and kind of weird
with their comparisons, where Steve Jobswould straight up bring up the competitor's laptop
in full view, even complement thelaptop in certain regards. I remember,
I think when he unveiled the MacBookPro or something, he was saying like,
hey, this is a pop laptop. It still has a good amount
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of performance, but we wanted topush it to the next level. Next
level, Let's ask Dad, becauseDad remembers all those days, Dance's jobs
was always about making things smaller.Apple Vision would have been kind of big
for him. Yeah, I probably, I think I agree with that.
I don't know if Steve would haveunveiled Apple Vision Pro today, he would
have wanted it to be thinner andlighter before launching it. But it's been
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a long time. I just wanta product that has the same chaos energy
as the iPod Nano. Just bonkersredesign every year. That did change a
lot, did it over time?Yeah, it was kind of like really
narrow at first, and then thescreen got really tall or no, first,
first it got really square. Youhad the third gen iPod Nano.
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I have a case somewhere that hasall these old iPods. Then they had
the squarish iPod Nano, which mymom still has and still works. And
then my first Apple product ever wasthe four G where they made it all
skinny and the tall display, andthen the five G the screen got even
taller than they had a camera tothe back. Then the sixth generation was
basically a watch. It was likea big iPod shuffle with a screen.
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It was like a square screen andyou could even buy wristbands for it,
and it had a clock app andeverything, but it still had a thirty
pin connector. It still had aheadphone jack. There was no Bluetooth back
then. And then the last onewas the seventh gen. They went back
to it being kind of skinny,but it was the only iPod Nano with
a multi touch display, but ithad a home button and it did have
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Bluetooth. I think that was theonly iPod nano to ever rock Bluetooth,
which was pretty cool. And thenthat was it. It was done.
Now I think the Apple Watch kindof serves the purpose of the iPod nano.
I don't think we need those tocome back. There's nostalgia for them.
We can still have our memories,but there's no need for the product
to exist anymore. All I wantout of iPad o WES is a watch
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app and I watch integration for aminimalist set up. I'm just trying to
figure out who's pairing their watches totheir iPads. I agree with you.
I'm just trying to figure out who'sdoing that. But we can't even get
a calculate app on the dan iPad. Man, Let's focus on a calculator
app and then we can talk aboutApple Watch compatibility. It's so distant from
me now because now I don't havea watch or an iPad. It'd be
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awesome if you talk about Shaomi andHuawei for how similar they are with iPhone,
and they could change the industry.They could change the industry of how
similar they are well The first problemis those phones aren't available in my region.
I've gone overseas and seen people usethem, but it's kind of the
same issue whenever I talk about Androidphones is there's not that much to say.
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In general, the smartphone industry isvery much matured and plateaued, so
it's hard to find things to talkabout, which is why a spoiler alert
there might be more of these livestreams in the future because a lot of
the time, where I kind ofstart running low on interesting news topics or
I'm not particularly finding anything too interesting, I go, well, rather than
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me try to guess what you guyswant to talk about, why don't I
do? A live stream can figureout exactly what you guys want to talk
about, And a lot of thetime it's just little questions like that,
what are your thoughts on Shami andHuawei? And I can tell you like,
well, I have a little bitof experience with them, but nothing
about the hardware necessarily jumps out tome, and that kind of answers your
question. And also I can figureout what else people are interesting interested in
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talking about. But before I forget, let's make sure I don't skip over
hyj Choy's question. As we're goingthrough telusu Tech Pro member questions, do
I think there will ever come aday when Apple stops updating a product line
without discontinuing it. Oh? Interesting? For example, I didn't read this,
by the way, before I wentlive, so I'm reading it with
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you guys for the first time.For example, fifty years from now,
when we're on the iPhone seventy four. In this theoretical Apple dropped the number
suffix and puts the year in parentheseslike they do for MacBooks. They have
run out of things to add.They brought all EU exclusive features to everyone
globally, so Apple says this isthe final iPhone for the time being.
If we think of new things toadd, we will update you. If
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you could also answer the same questionfor software updates, you're not going crazy.
I didn't like my previous questions,so I deleted it. Oh wow,
you had a different question that Ididn't even catch. I want to
refresh. Where can I find thatone? Okay, that's an interesting question.
Yeah, like into the deep future, whether they or not using suffixes,
I don't know. At least rightnow, it feels relatively possible for
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new silicon and new chips to becomeavailable. So I feel like there will
always be a certain level of newmodel year, even if the model year
differences are very small. Just likehow Marquez's great example that I reference a
lot is, you know, shouldyou buy a twenty twenty four Toyota Camera
versus a twenty twenty three Toyota Camray. Are there a lot of differences between
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the two. Probably not. Butif someone is going out to buy a
brand new car and they decide yes, they want a new one, they
don't want to buy it used,they don't want anything with any miles on
it. You know, they wanta brand new car. They might as
well get the latest generation. Ifthey insist on buying new, you want
to make sure that they buy thelatest state of the art tech, even
if there's very small differences between thetwo. So I guess the hypothetical that
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YJ. Choy is throwing out thereis like, what would Apple have to
do to get to a point whereeven the silicon is not worth upgrading?
Like we've reached peak silicon. It'sone nanometer architecture, everything is super efficient,
super fast. I don't know,you'll have to ask me in twenty
seventy four. But I think therewill always be some kind of minor improvement,
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And yes, every year it getsa little bit more minor. Every
year it's oh, a capture button, or oh yeah, we figured out
how to make the battery life acouple hours better. And it seems like,
at least in the tech community,it doesn't have to be that much
better for a lot of people tojustify buying it. Personally, I think
it's very hard to justify buying anew iPhone every year. You know,
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I say, as a hypocrite rockingof fifteen pro, but that was mainly
because I thought Type C was sucha massive upgrade. A silicon atom is
zero point thirteen nanimeters, so weare getting close to the limit one pikameter
architecture. Yeah, we'll see howclose we can get. But if Apple
runs out of things, I think, you know, they pay a lot
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of people to think of new features, new marketing gimmicks. If there's demand
for it, they'll probably get aroundto it. I know it's probably not
happening this year or next year,but if enough of us keep shaking our
fist asking for a budget not abudget iPhone, but a small pro iPhone.
I saw people asking for that earlier. I just want a mini iPhone
that has promotion and a really goodcamera. And you know, right now,
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Apple's just making phones based on wherethe money is. But if they
start genuinely running out of new features, which I don't think they will.
I think they pay a lot ofpeople who have a lot of time on
their hands to come up with newhardware ideas, new software ideas. Who
knows, maybe we're going to bechasing a whole new road map of Silicon
with all this generative AI talk thatApple's trying to hype up, maybe a
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dubb dub. They're like, Okay, this is just the beginning, and
you know, it's kind of likestarting from scratch with some technology. Whereas
as far as displays and cameras go, it feels like we've kind of run
out of things to do. It'slike, okay, we can come up
with super high resolution video, superhigh resolution photos now what Okay, Like
no one's complaining about the picture quality. But if they come up with some
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fancy generative AI features on the iPhone, they might be really cool and really
handy, but have a lot oflost potential or not lost potential, but
you know, just potential of like, oh, well, this feature could
be so much better if we hadmore neural cores, if we had more
improved a silicon that could generate largelanguage models and that kind of thing,
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or crank out AI generated. Maybeit starts with pictures, but then we're
asking, oh, maybe the nextgeneration silicon can do video. So I
think that personally they'll reach a Idon't think personally they're going to quite reach
a point where they can't come upwith new ideas. I mean, freaking
lawnmower companies come out with new lawnmowersevery year. How many different versions of
a lawnmower can we think of?Right? Same thing with chainsaws, the
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same thing probably with hammers. Arethey the kind of thing you go out
and buy once a year. No, But they come up with stuff.
They think of things, whether it'sthis one's more environmentally friendly, which we're
kind of already seeing with the AppleWatch series nine. Is that what we're
on? Holy crap, I'm forgettingwell jeez, yeah. Half of the
talk when they unveiled the series ninewas just talking about, Wow, isn't
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it amazing that you know this isa carbon neutral apple product, and it's
like, yeah, but is thatmean? And I'm supposed to go out
and buy it just because it's carbonneutral, Like, what does it actually
do for me? We could startseeing more of that as we get closer
to twenty thirty, more and moreapple product. Half of the presentation is
just talking about how great this productis for the environment, not so much
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why should you buy it? Imean, what's probably best for the environment
is to not buy anything and justkeep using what you already have. Let's
see. What would Steve Jobs thinkof the capture button on the iPhone sixteen.
I don't know. You'd have toask him. I don't speak for
him, you know, I readhis book and I've watched a lot of
interviews with him, but I don'tknow. I don't think Steve was like
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against buttons. You know, SteveJobs had the home button back we got
rid of more buttons in features sincewe got since Steve Jobs has passed,
so I think I think if itwas handy and it was convenient, and
it had some features that made thepicture taking or video taking experience more enjoyable,
then sure, why not he mightbe on board with it? Why
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not. I mean, I don'tknow what the questions getting at, Maverick.
If you're trying to go, well, Steve Jobs was a minimalist.
He would never add a button tothe iPhone. It's like we got rid
of things that he added to theiPhone. No, I think you could
make the argument that, oh,well, if he was such a minimalist,
why would he unveil an iPad.If he's a minimalist, he would
just want an iPhone in a MacBooklike I have right now, right,
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and that would be enough. Butno, he was in favor of there
being a product category between the iPhoneand the MacBook. So that was one
of the last, you know,products he unveiled before he died, was
the post PC Era, a morepersonal device with more screen real estate and
more flexibility than an iPhone, butit kind of just stayed, you know,
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mostly on the coffee table or youknow, you could read books on
it, and just having a large, multi touch experience was supposed to be
better in a lot of ways thanusing a Mac or an iPhone. But
I don't know if you would havestill felt that way, if he would
have known that iPhones were going toget as big as they have gotten,
and that Apple was going to turnthe iPad into so much of a mac
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anyway, right, let's see whatis Burkhart saying. I think in a
world where cellular Apple Vision, wherewe hypothetically got to world where we're similar
in size to the glasses, notas many people would buy iPhones, especially
if Apple Vision gets a lot morepopular. I personally disagree, mainly because
I think there's huge features that cannotbe replicated on Apple Vision, or at
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least not that I can see alot. Especially these days, a lot
of people buy iPhones for the camera, and there's a ton of camera features,
whether it be you know, FaceTimecalls or taking selfies with your friends.
Those kinds of things are going tobe much, much, much harder
to emulate on Vision pro because peoplearen't gonna want to just even if they're
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a pair of glasses, you know, are you gonna want to have these
things on and say, okay,let's all take a picture of us at
lunch or at Disneyland or whatever.So you got to take it off,
you know, open the camera applike this or whatever, take them off,
hold them out like this. Okay, are we all in the picture?
I don't know. The eyesight displaysare kind of damn and small because
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I had to make them thin andlight to fit on my face. Right,
So it's like, okay, arewe all in it? Click?
All right, let me see howit turned out. Oh, it's great.
Can I share this to you?Opposed to just rectangle hold it out?
Click? Hey, look at thepicture. Hey, look at the
picture. Oh I don't like theway I look at that picture. Let's
take it again. Okay, delete, Let's try one more time. You
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know, I think they're becoming.The iPhone replaced so many things all at
once that I don't think. Idon't think smartphones are going to be replaced,
at least in my lifetime. Ithink that the way we use them
might change. But look at itsimilarly, the iPhone was super popular and
changed the world, right, Butdid it kill off the Mac? Did
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the Mac die? No, it'sstill here. Maybe we use it a
little bit differently than we did theiPhone, or the way we used Max
before the iPhone. Like, there'sa lot more people buying laptops now than
desktops, and a lot more ofthe time. You know, people used
to buy laptops for writing documents andemail. But now it's like, if
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you just need to write emails andyou know, write documents, you could
probably get by with you know,a phone or a tablet or something.
You don't necessarily need to buy athousand dollars laptop to do those basic things.
So now you justify a laptop ifOkay, I need to write code
or I need to make music,like Randy does. iPhone Mini is the
Steve Jobs iPhone, and like SteveJobs, it is now dead too soon.
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Sadly, the mini iPhone was killedoff far too soon. Buy a
different thing. But maybe it'll forcepeople to live more in the moment instead
of taking pictures all the time.Yeah, that's that's a nice thought,
but it's usually not how humanity works. It's kind of like saying everyone's going
to figure out that all this fruit, toast and sugar is bad for them,
and then vegetable sales are going toskyrocket. It's like, yeah,
that would be great, that wouldbe good, but it's not going to
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happen. Or expecting public transportation tokill off car ownership, it's like,
oh man, it would be socool if all the governments just agreed and
got together and said, you knowwhat, We're going to design our cities
from the ground up to all bepublic transportation friendly and everything is going to
work, and you know, peoplewon't need to own cars anymore. Yeah,
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that would be great if it happened, but it's just not going to
happen. People are addicted to phones, and phones are always going to be
cheaper than glasses. They're always goingto have better battery life than glasses.
Even if you've found a way tomake you know, Apple Vision capable glasses
five hundred dollars or four hundred dollars, then with that exact same tech,
you could make a smartphone that's fiftydollars, you know, and has five
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times the battery life. Maybe it'llI hope it forces more people to live
in the moment, but I thinkwhat's far more likely they're just going to
keep using their phones. My dadhas said, I think free hardware in
exchange for more expensive internet service withadd ons and apps, perhaps a ice
beaed connection all Apple. They definitelyseem to want to be pushing more towards
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services long term. I don't thinkit's necessarily working, but I mean it
was probably wise looking at how TimCook ran Apple because he knew that a
lot of companies like Meta, likeGoogle, like Amazon, they make most
of their money through services, notthrough hardware sales. So he tried his
best to reposition Apple as more ofa services company because the revenue is a
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bit more consistent, reliable, andhe was probably concerned, like a lot
of us are talking about now,Tim Cook was probably concerned that the hardware
differences year over year, we're goingto get so small that nobody would be
able to justify buying a new iPhoneevery year. And because you know,
iPhone thirteen fourteen becomes so similar,than people are just going to go,
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ah, why buy a new iPhone? People hold on to their iPhones longer.
So he said, Okay, thisisn't sustainable. We need to position
Apple into more of a services companythan a hardware company. But what they
probably either didn't expect, or probablywhat's more likely is they just didn't want
to assume, because it's potentially dangerousto assume that your bread and butter for
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revenue is never going to go away, although in my opinion it probably won't,
is that people every couple of years, just out of annoyance, are
just going to upgrade their iPhones becausetheir old ones, you know, the
battery goes bad, or the storagefills up, or they know there's better
cameras coming out. Apple can probablyeven with fairly small improvements here over a
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year, keep the company afloat justby most you know, how many people
use an iPhone around the planet now, probably close to a billion. I
think they said there's like two billionactive Apple devices on the planet, so
probably around half of those are iPhones. So if you have like a billion
people that all buy a new iPhoneevery four to five years, that's still
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a lot. That's still a lotof people buying new phones periodically, and
that demand, that refresh cycle ofyou know, three four years, however
long people go between upgrades, isprobably enough revenue to keep the whole company
afloat to the point that they don'tneed to become a huge services company.
Even though they are making a lotmore now from services than they used to.
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The iPhone still hasn't you know,been killed off, and I don't
I don't think people truly appreciate howdisruptive it is, how special it is,
how rare it is for a technologyto be this impactful, and also
relatively affordable to the masses. Frustrationis the only reason to upgrade for most
average conservers. That's absolutely true,Martin. I was actually just talking to
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a friend a couple of days ago, and they knew I make tech videos,
you know, so she was justtrying to, you know, make
small talk and keep me in theloop. And she said, hey,
I got I got a new iPhoneand I was like, oh cool,
you know what'd you get? Andit was like it was the fifteen Pro
mac and I, you know,I came from she came from an iPhone
eleven. Wes asked, do Imiss my iPhone eleven? Heck no,
I love USBC. I love thesmaller footprint of the fifteen Pro. I
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think it's a little lighter than theeleven, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, fifteen pros like and theirperfect iPhone to me, I love it.
I don't miss the iPhone eleven.But my friend who upgraded from an
iPhone eleven two of fifteen proas.I was like, so, how do
you like it? And she waslike, oh, it's it's way too
big, like it's hard for meto reach the whole screen. And I
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was like, well, why didn'tyou go with the smaller one? And
she said they didn't have any inthe stock, which just brought so much
joy to my heart because I waslike, we talk about all day on
this, on this channel or onDiscord or on Twitter about Oh, customers
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want more of this, Customers wantmore of this, Like people are gonna
buy certain phones because they have certainfeatures they care about. And what we
continue to misunderstand is how little peoplecare about so many of these phones.
People will use a phone until itstops working and they get frustrated with it,
or it gets more buggy, orthe storage gets full, or the
battery starts deteriorating. A lot ofthe time, even if you tell people,
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hey, you could just replace thebattery and probably fix a lot of
your problems, even then a lotof the time people will probably go,
yeah, but you know, thenI gotta still worry about my storage,
and there's new phones out now.I'd rather just so people like will go
to the carrier. She went toa Verizon store. She didn't go to
an Apple store, you know.She just people will replace their phone,
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like they get their car worked on. They don't know much about the engine,
They don't know much about tires.They just go in and go,
okay, can you fix this?Can you get it back to the state
in which I drive it? Orif it's really bad and it's really expensive,
then they'll just go Okay, youknow what, I just need to
get rid of this car and I'llbuy a new one. A lot of
people just live life that way,especially for something as relatively affordable as a
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smartphone. They go in to thecarrier place and they're just like, hey,
you know what, this phone's gettingkind of old. I need a
new phone. Do you have anew phone? And they go, yeah,
oh, we have the new fifteenPro Max. Would you like that?
And you go you got anything smaller? And the carrier goes, no,
we sold out of the smaller one, and they go okay. And
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I even asked her. I waslike, it was like, well,
can't you buy like a smaller oneand ship it? And she was like
yeah. But I didn't want tohave to deal with all that and wait
for a new phone in the mail. She wanted to just get it over
with right then and there. Shewanted to walk into the carrier place be
out of there in fifteen minutes witha new phone. That was better than
her old phone, So she chosethe phone she didn't exactly want, just
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to get the whole decision making processover with faster. And I was like,
I love that. She was like, what is that wrong? Is
that bad? I was like,no, no, that's great. I
love the fact that that's the wayyour mind works, and that's probably the
way most people's mind works. Itwas like, you're a normal human being,
You're not a weird like me that'stalking about. Oh but I want
I wanted to be a five pointfour inch display instead of a six point
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one inch displayed. That would bea little bit more comfortable in the hand.
I would prefer the way to bea little bit under the amount of
ounces. And you know, it'sjust like who cares. Most people just
walk in and go, you gota new one, Okay, that's good.
Same thing. I know people thatgot the regular fifteen they don't know
about. You'd have to explain tothem what sixty hurtz means. If you
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have to explain to them why it'sa bad deal, then it's not that
bad a deal. Dad says.Remember when the sales guy a best Buy
tried to sell you an Android youwere about twelve. You said, you
seem to have a lot of thoseand stuff. Yeah, that was back
before I had a smartphone. Iwanted to get my parents and I had
finally agreed that I was old enoughor mature enough. I probably wasn't,
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but we had agreed that I wasold enough to get an iPhone five back
when that had just came out,and we were trying to see where they
had him in stock. So wewent to best Buy and I said,
do you guys have any iPhone fivein stock? And he said no,
but we do have the Galaxy Sthree, And the sales guy there was
like, and it's way better thanthe iPhone five. It's got a higher
pixel density and it's bigger. AndI was like, wow, if it's
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so if it's so great, whydo you have so many something like that
my early Apple sheep roots. Dadreally liked that one. I don't know
if I said it to his faceor not, but it made a lasting
impact on Dad because he still likesJerry story. It is a good story.
But yeah, I don't remember where. I think we got it through
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Verizon later because we had Verizon atthe time. I'm so glad I'm not
on Verizon anymore. Every time Italk to people that are still on them
and I hear what they're paying forcell phone service, I just cringe a
little bit. But I try alsoto not make people regret their decisions,
so if they're already committed to it. Like I had a friend who bought
a He didn't buy it either,he financed it. Yeah, he just
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went to the Verizon place and said, you know, I want an iPhone.
He had a Pixel and he waslike, I'm tired of my Pixel.
I won an iPhone and they hadsome really good carrier discount I think
on an iPhone fourteen Pro Max.So he got a fourteen Pro Max after
the fifteen had come out, andI was like, ugh, you got
the most expensive phone with lightning andhe was like, it's twenty bucks a
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month through Verizon, and I waslike, okay, well, I guess
that's pretty dang cheap. Even that'stwo hundred and forty bucks a year,
So four hundred and eighty dollars aftertwo years. I guess the carriers are
willing to finance the hardware, assumingyou stick with their overpriced membership. But
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I was just like, okay,that's a pretty good deal. AJ thank
you for eighteen months. What's upwith your space, grat iMac, it's
not here. I love the iMacPro. I still think that's the best
iMac of all time, including theM one and M three. Imax.
Yes, those are still ugly.Those are still horrible. I would recommend
them to no one, But asfar as Imax are concerned, that's the
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best looking on But yeah, Ijust don't use it anymore. The Silicon
was outperformed in my Macmocpro's just abetter Mac in pretty much every way.
And I'm editing on the go alot. There's just a lot of times
where my wife is doing a lotof what you call it volunteering. That's
actually I think where she is rightnow, or she's doing some trainings for
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helping it whatever, she's volunteering,And oftentimes it's like, Okay, we're
volunteering at this city, and thenwe're going to a friend's house after she's
done volunteering, so we don't wantto drive all the way home. We
kind of live in a rural area, so it involves driving a lot.
Even though I work from home,I drive probably more than fifty miles a
day on average, which is funny. Good thing we have an electric car,
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but we didn't want to drive allthe way back home and then all
the way to our friend's house.So she's like, can you just film
some videos? Sorry? By theway, to the channel members who've been
asking for more members only streams behindthe scenes streams, the reason I haven't
done a lot lately is because oftentimesI'm not filming and editing videos all at
one time. I'm like filming avideo and then editing it several days later,
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or film a video, edit halfof it, stop, come back,
edit another half, and because Idon't want to do like a bunch
of ten minute streams about the samevideo, it's like, okay, if
I don't do it behind the scenesstream it's because I didn't do the whole
thing at one point. But needlessto say, there's a lot of times
where I drop my wife off forvolunteering and then I work in the car
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until she's done, and then soI'm editing on the go a lot,
and I just couldn't do that ifI had a Mac studio or a Mac
Mini. And there's just been aton of circumstances in the past couple of
weeks where it's like, oh,I'll edit at this person's house, or
I'll edit in the car when you'redoing errands or volunteering or whatever. So
she's just darting around a lot.And we like to be together because we're
married, and believe it or not, we kind of like each other,
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so we like being together when wehang out and go places. So I'm
very grateful that Apple Silicon exists andallows me to get a lot of work
done on a mobile machine now,which couldn't be done with the iMac Pro.
But the iMac Pro for its timewas still an amazing machine. Let
me make sure I didn't miss anythingback here, uh, Makima, that's
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why I forgot twenty eight months ofsupport. Good evening from Japan, Have
a nice day. Wow, that'sweird to think we got people in Japan
watching us. Thank you, thankyou very very much for the support they
made IMAX with M one and Mthree. I thought they died with the
Apple Silicon trade saying no, you'reright, you're right, Dylan, they
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did die. They didn't make thecut. Are you excited for Series ten
or X? I'm curious. Idon't think excitement is the right word.
Excitement would imply like, oh boy, what are they gonna do. I'm
more like, what are they gonnado? You know? That's that's kind
of how I'm thinking. Because there'sall this talk about, like I don't
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know, something about it being thetenth generation. They want to do something
bigger for it or something special forit, and I'm like, hmm,
how could you make the Apple Watchdifferent? How can you make it stand
out? I tried Samsung flagship phonesrecently, S twenty four Ultra, and
I felt the camera on the Galaxyis so similar to iPhone style. They're
all great in my opinion. That'spart of the reason I haven't reviewed one
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is not because I think they're bad. It's just because I don't think there's
much to say. But especially withthe case of Android, I would not
buy a brand new Android flagship onlaunch day. I know that that's the
exciting thing to do, and youknow all the YouTubers do it because you
know this is the new phone.But because Android resale value is known for
tanking so fast. I'm not,you know, an Android guy, but
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if I was, I would totallybuy last year's model because for one,
especially with the case of Samsung,because Samsung tends to have first DIBs on
a lot of hardware features their theirlast generation model is usually so similar to
the new one, and it's usuallylike half the price or less. Sometimes
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it's like a third of the priceor a quarter of the price to just
by last year's model, which hasalmost no differences. It's very very small
differences year over year, even lessnoticeable than iPhone year over year differences.
The iPhone had a big one withType C. Excuse me, the iPhone
had a big one with the wholeType CE transition. But you know,
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galaxies have been on Type C foryears now, so it's harder to get
excited about. But oh man,you can get S twenty three Ultras for
so cheap now compared to just buyinga brand new S twenty four Ultra waiting
for that sweet final cut pro tenwatch addition to drum. You know,
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you know what would get me excitedpersonally, I just want the ceramic designs
to come back. I'm not sayingI would buy one new, but I
really liked that ceramic Series five,and I know that not enough people were
buying them which is probably why theystopped making them. But I thought they
just looked so clean. I reallyliked that Apple Watch addition, but they
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killed that off when the Ultra camearound. I guess Burkhart says, do
you ever think about an alternate realitywhere you actually bought a sixteen inch macboc
Pro in twenty nineteen and sold youriMac Pro before it's value TANKD No,
I don't, honestly, but Icame close, I think to buying that
sixteen inch Macbocpro that came out intwenty nineteen. I remember trying it and
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really liking it. I think afew months ago I listened to an old
podcast when I was reviewing it,and then the performance was pretty close to
my iMac Pro. I remember exportingvideos on it, and it was about
the same speed as my iMac purely. The only reason I didn't keep the
twenty nineteen MacBook Pro is because therewas so much talk about the Apple silicon
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transition, and I knew that thatwas around the corner, and I knew
I didn't want to buy a newMac every year, so I said,
now my iMac Pro is getting meby, just fine, I can wait
a little bit longer for the ApplesLok and MacBook pros to come out,
and that's what I did. NowI'm very grateful I did. But I
wasn't that interested in selling the iMacPro at the time because I knew that
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it was still very capable and itwas still very handy, and my wife
also really likes it. That's partof the reason it's not hiss, because
my wife wanted it. So wehave it in the guest room, but
we still have it, and shewants she likes it. I don't think
she uses it all that much,but she didn't want to sell it.
I was all in favor of,like, yeah, we don't need this
anymore if we could sell it,but my wife was like, no,
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it's good, and she likes thatit's got storage on it. She likes
bigger screens, and she likes theyou know, sound system on it and
everything. So she was all infavor of keeping it from the beginning.
So I would have had that samedebate with her back in twenty nineteen as
we have now, where I'm stilllike, eh, I could depart with
it, it'd be fine, andshe's like, oh, let's hang on
to it. You know, shelikes being more resourceful and holding on to
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things and finding meaning for them,and I'm more of the waste type that's
like, ah, this doesn't bringme joy anymore, let's sell it,
let's get I need something else.I'm always like that, I want the
new things, so let's get ridof the old thing. But I'm trying
to combat that because it's not healthyand it's not productive, and it's also
just not what the world needs.More of consumerism, So I probably would
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have kept it regardless. Mike says, can I bear my Apple Watch series
ten with my Xbox Series ten?Yes, that's how it works. They're
both owned by x Elon Musk Company. I had a scary dream about Elon
Musk last night. Oh my god. I had some deep rooted fears of
that. Man. I did notanticipate. Holy crap. It was like
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that, Uh, I don't watchGame of Thrones, but you know that
like red wedding scene from Game ofThrones where like spoiler alert, like a
bunch of people die all at onetime. It was like that, but
Elon Musk was killing people. Itwas crazy. I woke up legitimately scared,
and I was like I need tobuy a Rivian. I am now
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terrified of this man. That wasweird. We need more pixel rants,
but I know that they are gettingbetter. I know, I know I
missed doing the pixel rants too.I know a lot of people love those,
but the truth is they need tobe justified. You can't just rant
for the sake of ranting. Youto things need to be rant worthy.
That's what makes them special, right. Josh Loroe says, I tried to
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wear an Apple Watch two at timesand it never worked out. Series zero
was too slow, and now thewatch bands put too much pressure on the
nerves and my wrist and cause intensepain. There's gotta be some different watch
bands. You could try the exwedding. Yeah, that's let's see.
If I ever went to an Android, it has to make me feel like
it's unique. I actually do havea side Android. The Pixel five love
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stock Android experience and the design feltreally great. I really enjoyed the Pixel
eight and Burkhardt brought out a gooddeal. I don't know if it's still
going on right now. But thisis not a paid sponsorship. I don't
get It's not even a referral thing. It's not an affiliate thing. I
don't get any credit for what I'mabout to tell you, But Burkhart found
out that Mint Mobile is selling aPixel eight, which I reviewed on this
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channel. I thought that was agreat phone. It's one hundred and twenty
its display, it's an amazing camera, it's the faster speed USBC port.
It's got good battery life, goodcharging, great design by the way,
very comfortable to hold, has theWesor camera bump so it doesn't wobble.
I love the Pixel eight. Threehundred dollars off an already reasonably priced phone,
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and when you buy it through MintMobile, it comes with six months
of free Mint Service. It's notlike their highest plan, but still you
get cellular service, you know,unlimited calls and texts, and I think
five gigs of five G data amonth for less than five hundred bucks.
It was like four hundred and ninetybucks. And I was like, dang,
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you know, I'm not an Androidguy, but if I was,
Holy crap, those are the kindof deals I would jump on. Sometimes
I wish I was an Android guybecause I could probably get way better deals,
and maybe I would have more totalk about on this channel. Sometimes
I kid you not. I've genuinelyconsidered just switching to Android to have more
news to talk about on the tailisof tech channel. The problem is so
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much of the tailofs of tech Brainwas built up on covering Apple and watching
Apple, and I think it's verynoticeable that when I talk about Android,
the videos don't perform as well asthey do when I talk about Apple.
So I know that it would probablyalienate or at least annoy a very large
chunk of my audience, because mostof my audience is like, I want
to talk about Apple products because that'swhat I buy, that's what I know.
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But I seriously have had many longtalks, long considerations on well,
should it be boring in about Apple, or you know, have more things
to talk about in about Android,or mix of both. And you know,
I still struggle with figuring out whatwhat should be prioritized, what should
be talked about. I know peoplesuggest one thing. It's easy to be
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like, oh, I bet ifyou did this, you'd get a bunch
more views, and then it's like, yeah, you'd think that, and
then I try to do it andit's like Nope, it's not really worth
it. And in Nussan. I'mnot even gonna try to pronounce your last
name because it's the longest last nameI've ever seen. But he says,
what is your opinion on YouTuber's clearlyoverheting Apple just for clicks from the Android
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community pays the bills. I don'tknow. I don't really care what other
channels do. I personally, Ican't be motivated too much by hatred or
criticalness. That only gets me sofar. I can rant a little bit,
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but ultimately, the reason I'm interestedin technology and the reason I like
talking about tech stuff and all thatis because I'm an optimistic guy and I
like positivity. Because a lot ofEV channels, I mostly watch EV channels,
by the way, but tech channelsin general, there's a lot of
them that I just can't watch becauseall they do is complain, and I
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think that can only be so interesting, that can only get so far.
Or also, you know, there'sa lot of EV channels that are just
purely there to complain about how themedia covers evs. Even that annoys me,
even though I agree with it.And then like, I'm a big
electric vehicle fan, and I believeelectric vehicles are the future. But I
can't watch someone else just complain abouthow the media covers electric vehicles because it's
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like, okay, but they're justtrying to generate clicks. That's just a
journalist working for an agency. That'ssure. Are they reporting things honestly and
accurately? Probably not, But theyhave a job to do, and you
know, they probably have a bossor a manager that says you need to
generate a certain amount of click.So that's one of the downsides of you
know, free speech and free marketcapitalism is you know, anybody can say
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whatever they want. That includes dumbthings, and some people say a lot
of dumb things, are a lotof critical things, some of which aren't
even true. But that's how alot of businesses are made. And if
you want to support that, youcan. But to me, it doesn't,
it doesn't bother me. It's justlike, well, I'm not going
to focus on that because it's notinteresting to me. I like focusing on
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things that are interesting and excite me, or at least captivate me a little
bit. Like probably the most excitingiPhone in the next year that I'm looking
forward to is not the iPhone sixteen, but the next SE. It sounds
like they're finally taking the SE ina bit of a different direction and knowing
that it'll be affordable and still haveType C and still have a pretty big,
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you know, oled display and allthat is Like, man, I
think a lot of people out thereare going to really appreciate this phone.
That kind of thing grabs my attentiona lot more than did you hear what
so and so said about this?And did you? It's like, yeah,
I mean they're wrong, but I'mnot gonna just dwell on it.
I can't. I don't know that. That's not a good motivator in my
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opinion. I can't just wake upin the morning goow, who's wrong today?
Who am I gonna go argue with? You know? Like I don't.
That doesn't excite me. I mean, I like bouncing ideas off people
and stuff. But if your FSDreferral dreams come true and you could sell
your Model three for thirty K andbuy a Rivian R three for thirty five
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K, would I do it?Eh? There would have to be a
bit more dream scenarios on top ofthat, because even if I got a
Rivian R three, now I wouldhave to pay for charging with the Tesla
and the referral program, I getfree charging. So if Rivian came out
with a referral program and I couldget free charging on the Adventure Network,
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and then they also built an AdventureNetwork charger on my nearby relatively close by.
Right now, I'm not even closeto a super arger, but I'm
closer to a supercharger than I aman Adventure Network charger. And also the
other hypothetical is if Tesla removed thefree charging perk, So if I suddenly
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could not get free charging from myModel three anyway, maybe switching to an
R three would be worth considering.But I don't know. That's a lot
of maybe, And the R threeis still a maybe at this point because
who knows If hopefully a Rivian survives. I think they will, but there's
a chance they don't. Anyway,you should do a lucid rant on ev
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I don't know. It's the samething. It's like I've I just there's
so much negativity already in the worldand in the YouTube space that I would
rather focus more and talk more aboutthings that are exciting to me. And
I have done a lot of criticalhit pieces on Lucid, and I tick
off a lot of the Lucid community. There's a lot of really passionate Lucid
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fans, and I don't enjoy takingpeople off or trying to convince someone that
their preference or what they like iswrong. Just like if you enjoy Android,
my goal is not to convince youthat you don't like Android. You
know, I'm not trying to convincepeople that they should all buy iPhones and
they'd all be happier. It's likeyou do you. I mostly on this
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channel talk about what's interesting to meand what I enjoy, and somehow that
convinces people. I still get itsometimes, Oh Drew, I used to
hate Apple, but then I watchedyour channel and now I like Apple.
And it's like I never tried tochange anybody's mind. I wasn't trying to
argue in favor of this being better. I've always just been this makes more
sense for me. So that's whyI want to keep using an iPhone or
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keep using a Mac is because formy lifestyle, for my workflow, this
is what works better. If Windowsworks better for you, or if Android
works better for you, all thebetter to you. You talk about that
on your communities or your channel,and it's not that interesting to me,
but you do you right, it'sharder to justify, like, okay,
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now, let me talk about whyI don't like this and why you're wrong
to like this. You know,like even when I do, I don't
enjoy just like uprooting or riling upa big community of people. Let's see
how many people I can anger today. There was a little bit of that
with my whole iOS is Growing Androidis Shrinking video, which I kind of
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suspected might have a good shelf life, as most of the videos on my
channel do not have a good shelflife, but that one seemed to have
done pretty well and there's still aregular number of people tuning into it and
commenting. And you know that's evenas I post new videos, that one
keeps getting new comments and people golike, oh, well, what you're
misunderstanding is this or you're not gettingthis, and it's like, yeah,
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people take that personally, and Iwas trying to be a lot more objective
about it. I was like,I didn't say iOS is better than Android.
I'm just saying that market share globallyspeaking, which is funny because I
kept getting comments like, that's justthe US market, and I'm like,
no, all of the data wetalked to in that video is specifically referring
to global data. None of thatwas restricted to any particular country. I
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was just talking about in the world. Over the past five six years,
iOS market share has been on therise. Android market share has been on
the decline, which is interesting,and I'm just going, why, let's
talk about why we think that's happening. And I was like the naive,
like bare bones, simplistic way tolook at that as well, there's just
more and more stupid people. Everyoneis stupid, so everyone's buying iOS because
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clearly, if people were smart,they would all buy Android. I think
that's a really you know, baselessgeneralization or just assumption to give on the
public. Well, the reason anyparticular service or product is growing is purely
because everyone's an idiot. Like,Okay, sure you can believe that.
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I joked about that and then peoplewent along and still commented it on ironically,
but I wanted to explore more whereI was like, well, maybe
maybe they're doing something right if it'spaying off and there's more people switching to
it even as smartphones are growing intomore countries, you know, even less
developed countries that are lower income.Shouldn't that result in Android market share rising,
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not declining. So he's like IRUsis doing something right. It's just
a debate about what it is.And a lot of a lot of the
defense fanroid commentary from that was just, well, it's because everyone's an idiot.
Sorry, you're right, everyone isstupid, because if anyone had a
brain, they would choose what youlike. There's no other reason. Let's
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see, I have the regular noteten for weeks now, good for you.
Yeah, Cano is only eighty milliondollars. There's a lot of people
that could buy the whole company.Now. I bought am moz the last
week and has car Play as smallas it is, I'm scared I'm going
to love it too much and notwant to Tesla in the future anymore since
it won't have it. Eh.I've tried car Play. It's kind of
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neat, but I would still sayit well designed from the ground up software
experience. Car is still probably thebetter way to do it, but it's
fancier to have iOS and the USA, I've literally seen women saying, don't
talk to me if you don't havean iPhone. Yeah, I hear those
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stories. I don't think that's likeeverybody. But still that the iPhone didn't
randomly get that street credibility or thatpreference from the general public. It earned
that. I don't think it's necessarilyjust because you know, iOS markettera is
growing because every woman on Earth thinksthe exact same way and says the exact
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same thing. You know, Ithink that's a you know, isolated I
mean, it happens more than once, I'm sure, but it's not.
I don't think it's the majority ofpeople. But there is a simplicity to
the whole I Message experience, andthat's probably what she is getting at,
is like, I like just thesimplicity of I Message. I can send
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high quality pictures and videos. Wehave the FaceTime integration, and that's something
that Apple got right very early.And now, of course, people are
very hesitant to change from it becauseit's just it's the default messaging app and
it works, and when you textother iPhones, there's a lot of simple,
easy to use features, and whenyou text other androids there isn't.
And it's taken a long time forthe competition to get together another standard RCS
(58:31):
which is still kind of a messbut slowly making its way onto iPhone,
and a lot of people are justI know what I'm comfortable with, and
that's what I want to use,and I don't want to have to because
when they're using Android, it involves, oh, well, if you want
to do that, you either haveto SMS text or we have to download
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Facebook Messenger and go through a differentapp, or use Instagram DMS, or
use Snapchat and just confuse people further. Or there's been appamization problems with Android,
so that built up a negative stereotype. Even if it's a lot better
now than it used to be,it's very hard to shake that stereotype from
people. So if they have thisnegative association with Android camera quality, not
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because of the cameras, but becauseof the third party app optimizations, that
stigma sticks with it over time becausemost people are not smartphone reviewers that are
going out and checking out new smartphones, and most people don't want to have
to relearn the way they use theirphone and have new passwords and new account
management. They just wanted to work, and iPhones are known for being pretty
(59:35):
simple like that, I don't datewomen with iPhones. I can't convert them
if they're already in the garden.You know what I mean. Oh my
god, Mark, women under thirtyfour will not date you without an iPhone
generally in the USA. Eh,I think people are Ironically, the women
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you're describing are very narrow minded,and you're also being very narrow minded with
that viewpoint. I'm sorry. Ijust from my own anecdotal evidence, I
know lots of people that have datedand then got married with you know,
android owners. I could think ofat least three people in my personal life
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that have Android phones that still somehowwere able to find a woman and date
them and get married. It's liketo you're being narrow minded by saying that
women will all think that way.And yes, the women that do think
that way are narrow minded, butI don't think I don't think it's the
majority. I think it's a smallgroup of narrow minded ladies that are being
(01:00:44):
very picky. I agree with Katrina, most women don't care what phone you
own. I agree, they're probablythere's a lot of things they're looking for
in a guy. I don't thinkthat's high on the list. If you
go to most I don't know,dating sites are like, what are you
looking for in a man? Iowea, just I refuse to believe that's what
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most of them are saying. I'msorry. I commend iPhone for its stability
and optimization. It's doing a greatjob. Yeah, it's just a lot
of a lot of people, bothmen and women, don't want to fuss
around with setting up new phones orlearning new things or getting new accounts.
So if they grew up with aniPhone, they're probably just gonna want to
keep using an iPhone because that's whatthey're comfortable with. It's the same thing
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with a lot of people in cars. A lot of people just buy Toyotas.
They're going to keep driving Toyotas.A lot of people buy SuPAR Us
and they will continue to buy superUs no matter what. You know.
That's just that's my brand, that'swhat I'm comfortable with, That's what I'm
used to. It's the same thingwith phones. Narrow minded people are attached
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to each other. But my momspent six years trying to convert her X
to iPhone from Android because he wasconstantly complaining about his S twenty two Ultra
being piece of crap. They brokeup many other reasons, though, of
course no, I think that wasthe only reason purely broke up because they
didn't want to switch. I thinkthat Apple is growing because everything is just
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extremely convenient within the bubble of iOS, and I think it is seen as
a status symbol in more developing countries. Yeah, I think status symbols only
get you so far. I mean, it doesn't work that way with clothes,
right, Like, there are somestatus you know, name brand shoes
and status symbol clothes out there,but they aren't the best sellers, you
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know that, you know, theluxury brands that make the fancier clothes or
whatever. They don't out sell thecheap clothes that everyone can get at a
thrift store that most people wear acrossthe world. You know. So when
you talk about market share on thenumber of billions, I'm sure status symbol
has a certain impact, but Idon't think that's most of it. I
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think that's you know, there's probablya ton of variables that go into it.
But that's why it's an interesting topicfor me. It's like, what's
causing it? But yeah, there'sa lot of convenience and there's a lot
of simplicity with switching and with usingother devices, and with the app store
being so optimized and clean and easyto understand, let's not forget the real
(01:03:16):
villain in the room. Walmart inthe US at least doesn't accept any kind
of Apple or Samsung Pay. Well, that's yeah, that's on purpose.
They totally could. They choose notto because they lose like a percent of
a percent if they use Apple Pay, but if you use Walmart Pay,
they get to keep all their money. To say that Apple is known for
that is now the matter of past. Samsung is also second to none when
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it comes down to treating their ownusers. It's a very well integrated system.
I mean, if you're a techieperson, which I know you are
because you're watching this, you're moreaware of that. Like I know after
reviewing androids that they can still havegreat cameras, great displays, great prices
honestly, and they're just overall greatphones. But is everyday person going to
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go out and watch tech reviewers reviewsSamsung phones now? They just they know
what they know and they're going tostick to what they're familiar with. I'm
from Pakistan and the iPhone is astatus symbol. It's not just like that
in the USA all, I'm sure, but again I'm talking about the world.
I'm not just talking about one countryin particular. USA, even population
wise, is not even not evena tenth of the world. I think
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Apple just nails the little things.They understand people better than other companies.
Just watch an Apple event right afterwatching a Samsung keynote. Yeah, that's
very well said everything Apple bro.They do understand how to market, they
do understand how to You're right,get just little details, animations, graphic
design, simplicity of navigating UI andmenus, and they don't try to change
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things too drastically, and they likethere to be some consistency. I don't
know. I don't even I strugglewith the status symbol thing because there's androids
that cost more than iPhones, youknow, Galaxy Folds and S twenty four
Ultra I believe starts higher than theiPhones do. So to me, it's
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it's more than just status, becauseiPhones are not the most expensive phones,
so there's something it's a status ofa different kind, but there's something associated
with just iPhone being more luxurious,which I don't think is purely down to
price. It also comes down todesign. It's like the way it's designed
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is smarter or more comfortable or moreconvenient than any other phone. So that's
why if it is a status symbol, it's not purely just from expense.
There's more to it than that.I hope you on are talking about the
Dodge Taytona and the next DV putcast. That's gonna be all on Mike.
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If Mike brings it up, maybe, but I'm not bringing it up.
I don't think it's worth talking about. But for the same reason, that's
why I don't like being a criticalguy. Some people like the rant,
but I just I can't. Ican't make a living on rant. I'm
sorry. Bert Jansen, twenty ninemonths of support. Holy cal thank you
(01:06:15):
very much, very kind of you. Like while Samsung is hyping two hundred
megapixel one in a third inch censor, twelve to one binning, et cetera,
whereas Apple is busy telling you howthe iPhone will save your life with
crash detection. Oh yeah, that'spretty effective marketing, I will say,
though, I've seen a lot ofcomparisons of the S twenty four Ultra with
their new anti reflective coating. Wow, that looks marvelous. I hope that
(01:06:40):
comes to an iPhone. It looksgreat, not one country talking about all
developing countries like India, Pakistan,Bangladesh. Yeah, I mean I could
understand that being status symbols, butI don't know how much that sales really
push it because of that, LikeI need to buy an iPhone so I
come across as more successful. Idon't know. I've been to developing nations.
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I don't see a lot of peoplethinking that way. Maybe some people
do, but I don't think that'sthe only reason. And again, like
I said, iPhones aren't the mostexpensive phones, so there's a reason that
they have that positive association with them. I don't know. I hear about
that in the comments, especially whenandroids are talking about it. And androids
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are talking about why iPhones are successful, they usually try to come up with,
oh, well, it's not aboutthe product actually being good. They
don't like to acknowledge that. It'slike, well, I'll come up with
any any way to justify its growthwithout acknowledging that it might do something better.
So they usually come down to,oh, well, people buy them
as status. I go there.I don't see people using that argument.
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Oh my god, that guy hasan iPhone. I know because I've been
to developing nations with an iPhone.People don't look at me because of that.
They look at me because I havered hair. Still upset that they
still buy the inferior iPhone fourteen outof all the better options. Yeah,
I don't understand why the iPhone fourteensells well. I refuse to believe it's
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because of some feature it has overthe iPhone thirteen. I think it's because
people don't want to, you know, they want an iPhone. They get
that far, but they don't wantto you know, cross shop or figure
out which one has the features theywant. They just well, that's the
newer one, so I'll buy thatone. iPhone has been and always been
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expensive from other countries since the beginning. Well, Android phones are known to
be cheaper in those countries as well, to get more sales perception, right
there, Sure it's perception, butI'm just saying iPhones tend to be more
expensive, but they are not themost expensive. Like the z Fold,
I don't think would carry the samestatus symbol even though it's more expensive than
an iPhone. It was only importedwith heavily taxes. Now with base iPhones
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are being assembled in India, otherprices have dropped in more accessible So why
is it so status symbol if it'sprices dropped so much. I agree about
the anti reflectivity, although just atip, if you can stomach screen protectors,
you can get almost the same resultwith a flow lab nano armor three
D. The anti reflectivity is insane. Sorry, I can't stomach screen protectors.
I just really don't like them.I would even though my phone has
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gotten scratched up because of it.I still really like the way my phone
feels without a screen protector. Dylansays, I see a lot more fourteen
pluses than I wish I did.That makes sense. The rest of the
devices are not cheap, but theywork so well together on a level that
I haven't seen on any other brand. They have all the options, but
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they don't work as well together.That's true. You want to come to
iPhone? Yeah, you know howmany years that will take? Right?
No? I don't one. Youbuy it and then you have it.
Status symbol is now my vision prosjob. I hate how many people have
taken videos then people think it's realof people like walking around with Apple Vision
(01:10:06):
Pro on, I'm like, they'renot using it, Like, that's not
spatial computing. They're just using thepass through, which is just a fuzzier,
worse way to look at the realworld. There's all these videos of
people with Apple Vision Pro walking arounddoing this. I'm like, you can't
pin the windows to move with you. That doesn't work. It only works
(01:10:26):
when you're sitting and you put thewindows around you. But if you walk,
you walk right through the windows,the windows won't move with you.
So whenever I see those stupid videosof people walking around or doing things with
Apple Vision Pro, like, that'sjust the dumbest. It's the dumbest way
to use it. It'd be like, I don't know, it's the equivalent
of like holding the iPhone backwards.It's like, look at people on their
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phones all the time. It's likeyou're just doing this or something. I
don't know. It'd be like wearingwired headphones that aren't plugged into any thing.
It's like you're just, yeah,that's that's a status symbol that'll die
off, that won't last too long. Last week, a big YouTuber made
a video comparing Apple products to Samsungproducts. She admitted the Samsung products being
(01:11:11):
better, but just kept preferring Applejust because she wants to fit in.
Eh again, I my sister isa great example. I mean, she
had an Android when she moved hereand did not want an iPhone. But
you know, her old it wasa SHOOMI phone didn't work here, so
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I was like, you're just sorry, but I'll switch you to an old
iPhone I have. We had anold iPhone laying around, so I switched
her to an iPhone and it didnot result in some kind of social association.
I really don't think. I mean, people say that, but I
don't think that's most people. Idon't think they buy the iPhone just so
they can fit in. And evenif they do, there was some way
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the iPhone earned that street cred.I don't think people just flocked to brands
for no reason. They flocked tobrands. You know, there's brand power,
but brand power has to be earned. You can't just get a brand
power from nothing. Do you thinkit will be an Apple March event?
Rumors are saying no, I thinkwe're just getting site refreshes near the end
of the month. According to MarkGerman, do you think the pass through
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on vision pro could be enhanced withsoftware updates or is it purely going to
be on I think it's more ofa hardware limitation. I don't think there's
much the software can do. Teslawas able to improve their video on old
models, not to the newest hardwarewith over the year update. I found
a more efficient way to compress thedata or something like that. They mainly
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just color corrected it and it increasedthe sharpness. I had the Tesla before
that hardware three update and after,and it was noticeably better, but it
was mainly because the video was notcolor corrected before that update, whereas Apple
put a ton of time and attentioninto the color correction and the frame rates
(01:13:00):
and stuff before the launch, whereasfor Tesla it was more of an afterthought.
It was like, oh, yeah, we have these cameras. I
guess we should probably update the colorso it looks a bit more lifelike.
My friends have Samsung Ultras and theytried the air drop equivalent feature and we
found out that it works, butit's jenkin takes effort to get to it.
The speat is fine, but youfeel repelled to Yeah. I really
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think animations come down more than peoplerealize there's something about the feel that people
keep describing. I keep coming backto the way iOS and the way mac
Os feels something about it just feelsmore natural, more fluid, more convenient.
Even though yes, there's still thesame exact features available on Android,
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but they all feel more. Likeyou said, you feel repelled trying to
use it. It doesn't feel asclean, it doesn't feel as fluid.
Everything feels a little bit more jink. Yeah, Like Adeith is saying,
animation physics play a big role inhow natural it looks. I think that
matters more than people realize. Itdoesn't sound that like that big a deal
(01:14:06):
if we're just talking on a technicallevel, like, yeah, it's not
that impressive. That Okay, theiOS animation looks like this and the Android
animation looks like this. They're bothhonestly very similar to each other. Last
time I used a pixel it waslike, yeah, I mean I can
get used to this. It's fine, But is it better the way I
described it that I'm not sure istrue, but I'm gonna say it's true.
(01:14:30):
Is it often feels like Apple hasa team of therapists and philosophers that
look at icons and look at colorcombinations and look at graphic design, and
they figure out exactly what brings themost amount of dopamine to the human brain.
(01:14:55):
They figure out how to replicate itthe best they can, Like,
Okay, what results in the mostpositive reaction, the most positive response to
this arrow or to this color,or to this arrangement of apps, And
they figure out what results they haveall this research being done on the mental
effects of being shown all these images, this one resulted in the most positive
reaction, This animation resulted in themost happy response, and then they implement
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those and most companies probably just dothat. Bro's describing the human Interface team
exactly, Yes, thank you.The human interface is just like, how
do we how do we make thisthe most addictive, most human like experience
possible. I feel better using aniPhone. There's something weird about that that's
(01:15:44):
trippy when it starts to And that'sthat's what Steve Jobs talked a lot about
too when introducing the iPhone. Itknows you. It's not meant to be
a product you use, It's meantto be an extension of you. He
talks like that about the Originally itwas like it's it's a reflection of yourself,
to the point that that's why weget so defensive about it. Like
(01:16:04):
someone else picks up your phone andstarts using it, you very quickly are
like, okay, give that back. And there's this weird sensation, especially
if you've used an Android phone fora while and then you go back to
an iPhone, there's this sense offresh air. It's like you suddenly feel
like you can breathe again. It'sa creepy thing. It's very disturbing how
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they kind of know how we feel, how we look at things, and
it's very hard to replicate, whichis often why a lot of Chinese smartphone
companies like this one basically just emulatethe iOS experience the very best they can.
There's a bunch of features on Androidwhere they just straight up say,
well just rip that from iOS.Just do the exact same thing, you
(01:16:49):
know, like control center, youknow they put it in the top right
corner, the multitasking, just thegesture control. There's so many things where
they're like, well, Apple figuredout that people like that, so we
should probably just do what Apple didbecause that seems to work. Hey Bail
says, as someone who generally dislikesApple products. I will acknowledge that they
(01:17:12):
are nice to use. Why Istill don't like them is because of locking
down the hardware through software like nosideloading. Well, I got good news
if you live in the European Union, because that's becoming possible slowly. I
think you or everyone should watch designFluid Interface from Apple. Lots of things
can be learned from there on howApple builds things. Yeah, I think
I have seen that, and thatis an interesting dissection of UI design.
(01:17:36):
What if Johnny I've designed the AppleVision Pro, probably be thinner, probably
be lighter, but probably be worsesomehow. I don't know. Resolution would
be worse, battery life might beworse. I don't know what he would
do. You can look at sixtyhertz and instantly notice it's rights there.
Maybe people have bad eye. Iknow people that genuinely don't notice I show
(01:18:00):
them. I don't think they're fakingit, and I don't think there's something
wrong with their eyes. I thinkit's genuinely just too small a difference for
some people to pick up on,or at least care about. I did
I my cousin, who's my age? He's not some older guy or something.
My cousin had a twelve Pro orsomething and I had a thirteen Pro
and he said, well, whatdid they change on that? And I
said, well, the big thingwas the pro motion display, so the
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refresh rate's a lot smoother. AndI showed it to him and he has
a twelve Pro. He's just atwelve Pro for like over a year at
that point, and I compare themand he was like, what he said,
don't you see how it's like,you know, there's more frames between
the animations, And he was like, what are you talking about. He
genuinely could not see it. Idon't think he was faking, and I
(01:18:44):
don't think he has bad eyesight.I have worse eyesight than I probably need
glasses and he doesn't. But there'sgenuinely people that do not notice mark sequences.
Physics, fluidity and Vision Pro isawesome. Everything is weightless but has
mass to its still hard to explain, but very satisfying, tossing the windows
around, for example, glide awayfrom you. I do think that's a
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distinct advantage Apple Vision Pro has.It's that Apple designed UI that makes everything
feel so lifelike. It's part ofthe reason I think it makes so much
sense for Apple to go into thespatial computing space because the things we're all
talking about, That fluidity and thatsimplicity of their software design gives them,
(01:19:30):
I think, a distinct advantage overanyone else that makes a mixed reality headset.
And while the hardware was very impressive, it's kind of the whole iOS
Android topic all over again. TheAndroid has a better this, Android has
a better this When I use theQuest three. The hardware was genuinely impressive,
but the software definitely felt like Iwas using magical floating Android tablet.
(01:19:56):
But that includes all of the badparts of Android tablets. It's just everything.
It feels a little bit more clunky, a little bit less intuitive,
a little bit more clunk click click, But Apple has all these hardware limitations
with the external battery and the additionalweight, and of course it's seven times
the price. Did I ever tryto imitate your setup? I showed you
(01:20:18):
have a phone in Mac having anexact same home screens just the doc No.
I really wanted to, but Inever got around to it. I've
just been too dang busy, dude. I haven't changed my wallpaper in probably
years at this point. I'm actuallydaily driving both A sixty Hurts iPhone one
hundred and twenty Hurts Android. Androidfelt smooth and fast, but iPhone is
(01:20:40):
also really good even at sixty HURTZ. Yeah, I know what you mean.
There's something about that animation that humaninterface team Torri Aspen says. When
do I think a new Apple TVwill come? And do you think they'll
change it like a screen or otherthing. Who's to say. They've been
talking about doing a dedicated television sinceas long as I've followed Apple, and
(01:21:00):
they've never done it. So I'mconvinced if they wanted to do one,
they would have done it by now. I want them to do one.
I think it would be better thaneverybody else's. But they kind of refreshed
it with the what was it theA fifteen chip a lot sooner than I
expected, just so they could getthat stupid Apple Music sing feature. But
an A fifteen chip and an AppleTV already feels really overkill for me.
(01:21:23):
But it is cheaper and the serialboats type C, which is the best
thing about it. But yeah,I don't I don't know why they would
update it. The only thing Icould see them doing is if They kind
of combined the home pod and theApple TV into just like a big sound
bar that you can control like ahome pod, but it also hooks up
to your TV and it's a greatsound system, and it could have a
(01:21:43):
little center stage camera for FaceTime callsand stuff. We've talked about that for
years and it's just it's never goneanywhere. So I wanted to exist,
but it doesn't. In my case. Once I went to under twenty herds,
I could never go back. Iwas going to get iPhone fourteen and
there was no way that was goingto work because I also have ibad Bron
macmcpro. It's possible. I didit. I used a thirteen Pro Max
(01:22:03):
for over a year and then Iswitched to an iPhone ten. It takes
a lot of therapy and it's alittle hard on the eyes, but it
is possible. It helped a lotbecause I was trying to use my smartphone
less. I felt addicted to mysmartphone. I still feel addicted by the
way, and I was using itso much that I was like, I
kind of am ok downgrading because forone, I missed the smaller phones,
(01:22:25):
and the iPhone ten was really comfortableto hold. Also, my mom wanted
my thirteen promacs and she kept askingwhen she could have it. So I
finally was like, okay, let'sjust switch because also that gives me something
to talk about, and the newswasn't that exciting at the time anyway,
So I switched to the iPhone ten, and of course the battery life was
worse and the refresh rate was worse, but that helped me use it less,
(01:22:48):
but honestly, I still probably usedit a lot. And now it's
come full circle because I'm back ona fifteen pro and I'm still very addicted
to it, and I've hasn't helpedthat has started paying me now, So
now I feel even more motivated touse my phone because it's like, well,
I'm literally getting paid to just sendtweets now, So that definitely didn't
(01:23:10):
help with the smartphone addiction. Thestudio displays a prime example of why you
actually don't want a literal Apple TV, even if it was expensive. I
think it'd be cool, just likeI mean, Apple makes all kinds of
expensive products that I would never buy. They made a fifty thousand dollars MacPro.
I would have said that's ridiculous,but they did it, So what's
(01:23:30):
so crazy about Apple making like asix or eight thousand dollars o lead TV?
That's really cool. You should shareyour ad. It's not much.
It's like a couple hundred bucks amonth. It's not like, you know,
life changing revenue, but it's morethan nothing, which is what I
would get on any other social mediaplatform. Would I ever switch to the
(01:23:53):
S twenty four Ultra? I wasgiven a free one. That's the price.
I don't think it would be worthbuying one. But I've said on
the record, I think if Googleadded me back to Team Pixel, I
think that's the only way I wouldconsider. The main reason being because the
(01:24:15):
only way I have been community notedyet, I thought that would affect my
AD revenue more. But it's itwasn't. It wasn't that much. Was
I gonna say, Oh, ifGoogle added me to Team Pixel, that's
the only way I could justify switching, because I could then keep my iPhone.
(01:24:35):
If I'm going to be buying theAndroid phone itself, then it turns
into this weird like, Okay,well, now should I sell the iPhone
off or should I just have both? Then I'm kind of a more minimalistic
guy. So I don't want tohave you know, I don't want to
buy two flagships really if I don'tneed to. But if a company is
(01:24:56):
like actively saying we want you toreview this, we want you to document
their experience, I don't want themto pay me. But if they sent
me the phone, then I would. I would be more open to it.
I don't think I'm getting back onTeam Pixel either, but that's my
price. When people say would youreview it? S twenty four, I
don't know if Samsung wanted me tosure or nothing. Nothing has sent phones
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to people, and I've reached outto them, but they've they've never reached
back out. I think the iPhoneeleven should be fine for the next three
years. Yeah, probably. iPhoneeleven is a good phone. Can you
go back to an iPhone eleven andtwenty twenty four? Well, I was
using an iPhone eleven before I gotmy fifteen Pro, so yeah, that
was just a couple months ago.Apple Watch Ultra two battery Is it me
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or is it draining faster? Well, every time you use it, it
cycles it so it deteriorates a bitmore So if that makes sense, What
did you think about MVHD single handedlyruining fits Grotian, Oh don't. I
don't think he single handedly ruined them. He probably weakened the demand for them,
but the demand for them was notthat high anyway. Fiske Ocean ruined
Fiskarochan by designing a car that couldn'tbe scaled profitably. That's their fault.
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That's not Marquez's fault. It's liketrying to think of a good example that's
not dark humor. That's like blamingthe firefighters for not getting to the house
that burned down because of the stovebeing left on, you know, like,
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I mean, the firefighters could havecome earlier, but they're not the
ones who start the fire, right. I got kicked out of Team Pixel
years ago. I want to saythat was five years ago. Now it
was a long time ago, probablybecause they sent me a phone and I
didn't like it, so I reviewedit and said, this isn't a very
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good phone. So then they stoppedsending me phones. But I've always said,
like, you can send me stuff, but I'll never sign a contract.
The one thing I won't agree tois a script or any affiliate deal
like where they pay me and Iwon't. I won't through sponsorships. But
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if they want to send me thephone, that's great. Cool. I'll
be more inclined to review it ifthe company is willing to pay for the
phone. But that doesn't mean I'mgoing to like it. That doesn't mean
I'm going to give it a positiveendorsement just because they paid for it.
Same thing with this Dougie phone.This only reason I have this is because
it was a gift. It wasjust sent to me by the company.
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And what's funny is even after Ireviewed it and said, I mean,
it's kind of interesting and weird,but would I buy it? No?
Should you buy it? No?Not really, I didn't really recommend it,
but the company kept sending me.They wanted to send me more of
those phones, and I was like, they're all kind of the same,
so I said, no thanks.But they make tablets too. They want
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me to review the tablets, andI'm just like, I don't care.
And when MacBook still feels brand new, I've never had this experience of it.
Yeah, that's what Mike's been sayingabout his m one Air as well.
Will you keep lightning remote even ifwife switches to S four? Probably
just because I think I've charged myApple TV remote twice in the past year,
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so it's kind of hard to justifyreplacing the whole remote over that.
But I don't know. I don'tthink I would buy a brand new USBC
remote either if I really got annoyedwith it just being the last light.
Even if my wife switches to theSC four, she still has an iPad
Pro that's lightning, so there's lightningcables around. I'm not going to get
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rid of every lightning cable in thehouse overnight, so I'll just slowly wait
for everything to die. I shouldget the tablet. I don't know.
You should see these tablets. Idon't even want an Apple made tablet what.
I just don't like collecting things.As someone who has moved several times
and lives in a, you know, relatively small house, I don't like
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collecting a bunch of stuff. Ilove getting rid of things. I love
selling things. I can't believe Ispent like seventy two hours in constant anticipation
for the new iPads only for themto not drop it. I know,
I was surprised by that too.I thought we got a MacBook Air last
week. This would be the iPadweek but no, that's not it.
(01:29:24):
Yeah, fifty nine dollars just toget USBC. I wouldn't buy one new.
I would probably just find one oneBay or Facebook marketplace. And you're
not going to move anymore, right, Yeah, I don't know. I
don't I don't plan that far outthere. There's a chance I could move
again. We talked, We've talkedabout it. There's the market's not really
(01:29:44):
good right now with the interest ratesthe way they are, but we might
we might move another time. Imight want to move somewhere where I can
get fiber internet because I'm getting prettysick of all the either Starlink or T
Mobile home Internet or Verizon Home Internet. I'm just I'm after a while,
I kind of get sick and Ican't get fiber internet where I live.
(01:30:04):
But there's some places not too farfrom here I could move to that would
have it, and that would thatwould be pretty tempting, and just you
know, a bigger house that wouldbe better at hosting people, or you
know, if I have a familysomeday, that kind of thing. You
know, you want to have somemore space. This is a good starter
home for us it's been good,but I don't know if it's our forever
(01:30:28):
home. But still, I justeven even if I wasn't moving, I
like not having too many things.It gets overwhelming and it gets annoying,
especially when you do cleaning and youwant to make room for the stuff in
your life that you do care about, that you do value. Unburden yourself.
Amen. On the fiber Internet,Yeah, that's that's slowly becoming like
(01:30:50):
mandatory on my next house. HaveI considered AT and T fiber? It's
not an option here. I've tried, me, I've tried. They'll often
cover the installation fees in certain areas. Yeah, in certain areas. Not
this one. No, I've checked, trust me. I've checked with everybody
who offers fiber and that they do. They will not route a cable out
(01:31:13):
here. It's not a thing.Way more than enough to receive phones to
address eh. The subscribers don't meanmuch. If Eptera never goes into production
and you needed a second car,would you reserve an R three or a
Model Y. It's a very specificsituation. I don't know why we would
need a second car. We alreadyhave two cars. I don't know.
(01:31:40):
I guess it would depend on thepricing. We don't know the pricing of
the R three, and I don'tknow what the used market on model wise
will look like. As long asTesla has a referral program in Rivian doesn't,
I'm heavily financially incentivized to keep buyingTesla's. They really got me there.
I'm sorry, it's I know itsounds biased, and it honestly is
very biased and skewed. But it'slike, if I have to pay for
(01:32:03):
electricity or not pay for electricity,which car do you think I'm going to
buy? Electricity is getting more andmore expensive, especially where I live,
So to charge up an R threeand drive it around every month, as
long as the referral program situation doesn'tchange, it's gonna be like one hundred
(01:32:24):
bucks a month more to own thatthan it was than it would Tesla.
And I love the R three,But if Tesla gets rid of the free
supercharging and Tesla, you know,reworks the referral program so that I can't
charge it for free, then I'dbe a lot more open to buying non
Teslas, because then it's like,Okay, I'm paying for electricity no matter
(01:32:45):
what. So we'll see how theactual efficiency of the R three is when
it comes out. I really likethe R three. I would really like
to own one, but it's justthe numbers got to make sense because I
already have spent a lot of moneyon my EV and it's a great car.
We drove it a lot yesterday.Honestly, I spent so much time
in the car yesterday I edited liketwo videos and uploaded one and we hung
(01:33:09):
out at the charger before we wentto dinner with our friends. And man,
it's a great vehicle. There's honestlynothing wrong with it. And because
I work from home, there's verylittle reason for us to buy another car.
But yeah, we'll see. We'llcross that bridge when we get there.
But the referral program has got achange in some way for Rivian and
(01:33:32):
Tesla. For Rivian it would haveto exist, and then an adventure network
would have to be installed closer tome, or Tesla would have to scrap
the free charging, which is apossibility. Which legacy manufacturers make the best
evs. There's some decent ones around. I'm tempted to say Ford just because
(01:33:55):
they have supercharger access now, butsoon everybody will. I don't know.
I like different things about each ofthem, Hyundai and Kiar coming out with
some pretty great stuff, but theyall have the same software issue, which
is they all have dated software.It all comes back to this whole iOS
fluidity and you know the human interfaceteam that's Apple really gets right. And
(01:34:18):
I think Tesla and Rivian also replicateand Aptera. This is actually spoiler alert.
This is what today's EV video isabout. It's about what legacy automakers
get wrong versus what EV startups getright. And it always comes back to
the software. And all of thelegacy automakers have pretty clunky software, so
(01:34:40):
a lot of the time they fallback on Apple and Google to do the
heavy lifting. And that's a goodidea, but it's not as good as
just having a well done OS fromthe ground up. Everything Apple bros.
Is I'm a bit confused about youroverall view one vision pro. I just
missed it. But did you evergive your definitive opinion? Now in the
(01:35:03):
review I explicitly stated I'm not keepingit, and it doesn't have to do
at the price. It has todo with the product. I mean,
sure, the price doesn't help.It's very expensive and it'd be hard to
justify a thirty five hundred dollars expense. But my point after using it for
a couple of weeks was, evenif this thing was one thousand dollars,
it would probably collect dust in myoffice. And as someone who doesn't like
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holding on to tech, that's notuseful. I only want to own what
I need as a minimalist, oras Randy calls me, an essentialist.
That's why I got rid of myApple Watch. It wasn't because I needed
money. It was like two hundredbucks. It's like, that's not going
to make or break anything. Isold it because I wasn't getting much use
(01:35:45):
out of it, and I realizedI appreciated traveling lighter. It was.
It was a cool piece of hardware, but I was quickly running into I
was running out of use cases forit. It wasn't a comfort issue.
It wasn't like, oh, Ican't wear this for hours at a time
because it's too uncomfortable. It waslike, no, I just run out
of things to do with it.Because the app market's not too great and
(01:36:12):
it's not as convenient as just pullingout a phone. It's a lot more
isolating when you're around other people,and I am around other people a lot,
and that makes other people feel weirdand uncomfortable when they can't see exactly
what you're doing and you're just like, you know, it makes you like
the crazy guy in the room.So I don't spend a lot of time
alone, you know. The bestuse cases for Apple Vision pro Burkhardt on
(01:36:38):
his Twitter page wrote a good articleabout it. He was like, here
are the strengths, And I thinkthe three strengths were like watching movies and
TV shows using the Mac as anexternal monitor. There was something else I'm
blinking on the third thing. Butthe problem with using it as an external
monitor with the Mac is it's muchmore expensive than an actual external monitor,
(01:36:59):
and it's not as portable as Ithought it would be. It was getting
tiring packing it around. I triedto use it on the go. I
took a trip like immediately after gettingit, so I was traveling with it,
and I did not find it thateasy to travel with because of the
girth, because of how tall itis, and it was another thing to
keep track of, and there wastoo many steps, you know, with
(01:37:21):
an external monitor. I just plugit into my Mac in boom. I
have a big screen monitor with AppleVision Pro. It's like, okay,
unlock my Mac, put on theVision Pro, unlock the vision Pro connect
by looking over the connect tile,which doesn't always appear, and then all
the windows have to resize and stuff. There's just way too many additional steps.
(01:37:43):
Like Zolotech said, it doesn't lookas good. It's not as good
of refresh rate as a real externalmonitor, and it's not as rich of
a display because you're looking at itthrough lenses and goggles and stuff. It's
not the same experience as using anactual external monitor, which is cheaper,
and even as an external monitor onthe go, it's kind of a pain
in the butt to travel around with. And it's so expensive and so fragile
(01:38:05):
that I'm going to feel dangerous carryingit around with me. FaceTime was the
third thing. Oh that's why Iforgot because I didn't. I don't know
if I agreed with that. Itried facetiming people on it, and I
thought it was just creepy and weird. I wouldn't FaceTime anybody that I genuinely
wanted to talk to while wearing it. I would pretty much only FaceTime people
(01:38:26):
as a joke or to show thatit's possible. But for actual FaceTime calls,
I'm usually not by myself. I'musually with my wife or my sister
or a friend or something and we'recalling someone else. It's rarely just me
by myself. So for my lifestyle, even if it was one thousand dollars,
I would have returned it. I'mnot an essentialist, so I think
(01:38:48):
it'd be more prone to seeing itas John does. But that's still great
to know. I didn't watch hisreview, but I still am excited for
the future. I'm excited for Visionosdevices. Think there's a lot of room
for improvement, and because it's soflawed is what makes it so exciting.
FaceTime is cool when it's all othertechies who are also using vision Pro.
(01:39:10):
But for the average call, Iagree, Yeah, okay, I think
we agree there. For most people, I don't think it'd be a very
good use case. But if I'mwatching movies and TV shows, I'm watching
it with another person, I wouldn'twant to wear the headset because then I'm
the only one who can watch it. Do you think Marquez was wrong to
borrow a car to review from adealer? He didn't get it from Fisker,
(01:39:32):
and the dealer got harsh press outof it in no sale. I
don't know. Personally, I thinkhe's welcome to do that. Marquez reviewed
the product in its current form.People should know people are gonna watch YouTube
videos on products before they buy theproduct, so if the product's not good,
I don't think Marquez did anything wrongPersonally, I don't agree with everything
(01:39:55):
Marquez does. I thought the titlewas a little harsh because if you actually
watch the review, he's somewhat positiveabout it. But I think the Fiskerootian
probably resulted in weak sales because theproduct wasn't very good. Marquez just showed
that it wasn't very good. That'snot his fault. What did he do
(01:40:18):
wrong? I don't get it.Do you ever consider doing a collab with
another Apple sheep and YouTube like Zolotech? But that's funny. Several people have
asked me to collab with him,and he seems like a nice guy.
But I don't think people understand whatcollabs are or what they should be,
Like, what does that mean?We just talk? Because I don't think
(01:40:39):
he watches my videos and I don'twatch his videos. It's like, you
guys should just get in a roomtogether, like and do what what he
wants to do, just ask eachother questions. I guess I don't know.
I've done pretty big collabs in thepast, and they never really perform
all that great and they're not asinteresting as people think they would be.
(01:41:00):
What do you mean you don't agreewith everything MKVHD does besides sort of clickbaiting
the title anything else. No,I just shares opinions sometimes that I don't
agree with, or he makes predictionsthat I don't agree with. That's his
choice, it's his channel. Hecan do what he wants. He also
(01:41:25):
thought that Apple wouldn't switch the iPhoneto USBC. I remember watching his video
on it. He said they'll probablygo portless before the European Union mandates the
USBC, And I said, Marquez, you're not reading the law correctly,
because the law says if the deviceis large enough to accommodate for types,
it has to So I was like, you're missing the point. So I,
(01:41:46):
yeah, just disagree on certain things, but I'm just saying in that
specific deal or in that specific instanceof the Fiske Grotian, I don't think
he did anything wrong. But wouldyou ever go super out of your comfort
zone and get a phone that usesLinux ox Not unless I had a legitimate
reason to. If I have agood reason to, maybe, but I
(01:42:08):
don't think I do. It's kindof slimmy to borrow a car, review
it, and get monetization out ofit, return it, and the dealer
got nothing from it aside from thebad press link to the video. The
dealer didn't have to agree to it. The dealer doesn't. I mean,
it's the dealer's choice to let peoplego out and review the car. I've
done that. I don't think there'sanything wrong with that, especially if it's
(01:42:28):
not selling this Grotians weren't selling Ithink that was the bigger problem. So
I are you trying to say thatthe dealer should have tricked people into not
knowing how bad the product was sothat they would buy it and then go,
oh, crap, wait, thisis a bad product. No,
I'm sorry, I'm not gonna I'mnot gonna side with the dealer. Dealers
just trying to flip a car,which I honestly have bigger ethical questions with.
(01:42:53):
Marquez is trying to show people howa car is before they buy it,
which is a necessary, crucial partof a buying decision. I've never
even heard of the Oh, thelight phone, Yeah, I have heard
of that. No, I don'tthink that would be a good phone for
me. I don't see the pointin one of those like, oh,
(01:43:14):
it's the bare bones. It doesn'tdo anything fancy. It's like, okay,
well, if it doesn't do anythingparticularly well, then I'm not going
to use it. The light phoneis basically good at calling, and that's
like the last thing I do onmy phone is making calls. You definitely
don't need to own the product toreview it, especially if it's a bad
product. That's all the more reasonto just borrow it for a day and
(01:43:36):
then give it back. What isit? I mean, the dealer's job
is to buy cars that you thinkpeople would want and then sell those at
a profit, in which case Ithink it's kind of a weird business model
that's kind of dated in the Internetage anyway. I think what makes more
sense is for the manufacturer to makea product and sell it to the consumer,
(01:44:00):
not make a product, have adealer by it, and then the
middleman, the dealer, sell itfor a profit. This is like,
imagine if a phone reseller, likeI don't know, a phone stand on
a mall, bought an Escabar phone, and then Marquees went to the shop
and said, hey, can Isee that real quick? Oh wow,
(01:44:23):
this Escabar phone sucks and gave itback and now, okay, well,
Marquez made a video about why theEscobar phone sucks. Therefore that phone reseller
isn't going to sell the Escobar phone. It's like, yeah, because the
product sucks. Marquez is just showingwhen a product is not worth it,
which I think is totally acceptable.The product's bad, The product's bad the
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reviewer, unless they're lying about itor being deceitful about it, which I
don't think Marquees was. He wasshowcasing his experience. The title was not
very representative of the product, inmy opinion. He said, this is
like the worst car I've ever reviewed, But then half of the video was
compliments. But if you watch thevideo, you'd know that if you're not
(01:45:09):
actually in the market for the car, then you'll read the title and say,
wow, look he bashed the fistgroschand it won't sell. Now,
It's like yeah, but if youreally wanted one, you were going to
buy one anyway, and the reviewwas pretty fair in my opinion, aside
from the title. It was criticalof the software, which is a problem.
And then Fisker. I think it'sreally shady when a company specifically tells
(01:45:32):
people not to review a product.I thought that was shady. I didn't
think what Marquez did was shady.If a company says no, don't review
that, why, that's like that'shis job. You're saying, if you
don't think people should review something,then you shouldn't be selling it. Clip
(01:45:53):
that capture that. If you're againsta reviewer reviewing a product, don't sell
the product. If you're willing tosell it to an everyday person or an
average consumer, then you open thegates to public criticism, reviewers checking it
out and saying whether or not theythink it's worth it. The bigger problem
(01:46:15):
with Fisker is they can't sell vehiclesprofitably. Their problem is not Marquez.
I love the guy, but holycrap, I couldn't believe he ever said
that when it was so obvious.I mean, I thought the video itself
was good. I just thought thetitle was. I don't even know if
he made the title shady to hiresome movie star to review a product for
(01:46:40):
money. Yeah, that's kind ofthe inverse. It's far more like,
let's just convince celebrities to endorse productsthat they don't actually believe in. That
happens all the time, and we'rejust like, well, you know,
you know, they need to makea buck. Marquez's strategy is far more
ethical in my opinion. It's like, let me just check out the and
(01:47:00):
if it's bad, I'll say it'sbad. Sometimes that's valuable insight. Oh
about the USBC iPhone, Yeah,I remember that. He was like,
no, they'll go portless, andI was like, my parents were craving
sushi, and so they sent meon a mission to Whole Foods and might
as well felt like a mission toMars, and I was able to patch
them through FaceTime. They picked theirsushi. Congrats. In the realm of
(01:47:24):
tech, So do you have anyadvice for me? Talk about things you're
interested in, because that'll help youlast a lot longer. It's a very
oversaturated market. It's very hard toget a tech channel off the ground these
days, when the tech is lessinteresting than it used to be, and
there's so many tech channels now alltalking about the same things. So your
(01:47:45):
best bet is to talk about thingsthat you find genuinely interesting, because if
you do, then even if itdoesn't turn into a job or an income
source, at least you have funalong the way. Try to separate your
self in some way, shape orform. There's not some textbook answer that's
like, just listen to me andyou'll have guaranteed success. There's no guarantees
(01:48:08):
with YouTube. There's nothing as promised. I don't think if I started making
tech videos today I would I wouldbe successful. I think that I got
lucky being in the right place atthe right time when there was less saturation
with the Apple coverage content and therewas more demand for more Apple focused channels,
(01:48:31):
and there was more interesting stuff goingon at the company. There was
more things to talk about. Nowthere's less things to talk about, and
there's way more channels, so there'sless demand and more supply, which makes
it very hard to get off theground. So if you if you're focused
on things that are genuinely interesting toyou, then it'll be more enjoyable than
(01:48:54):
if you're counting on well, thiswill be fun if I get views and
get paid from it because I honestlydon't know how likely that is anymore.
I've got a relatively big channel andI'm still trying to figure out how to
make this whole thing work. I'mstill making this up as I go.
A lot of big creators seemingly didn'tread the common charger law from the EU.
(01:49:15):
It was frustrating when so many aretalking about portless. I appreciate you
spreading the separating the signal from thenoise. Thanks Mike. When it comes
to games and movies, of thereview embargo is on the day of release
or after. That's usually a redflag. Well Apple does that too,
but you can tell that when there'san embargo signed, they don't say whatever
(01:49:38):
they want to say. They don'thave complete control over their opinion, which
is why I don't do those things. I like being able to say if
I really like something, I'll sayit, But if I really don't like
something, I also want the optionto say it. I can't believe the
(01:49:58):
artwork has an updated on Apple potI've been emailing Apple. I contacted Spreaker,
our podcast hosting service, and Isaid, why, Well, the
artwork update on Apple? It updatedon everything else, it updated for Google
Podcasts. It updated for Spotify,but it wouldn't update for Apple, and
I contacted Spreaker and they said,there's nothing we can do about it.
That's all on Apple. So Icontacted Apple, and Apple said we'll refresh
(01:50:21):
them internally, and they refresh thewrong ones. I guess, the normal
tailos of tech and EV audio forms, like the you know, I take
my YouTube videos that I upload andjust convert them into podcasts, those updated,
but the actual, you know,hour long tailous of tech and EV
podcasts they wouldn't update. And Iwas like, no, you refreshed the
(01:50:43):
wrong ones, Like I want torefresh all six of these, and I
sent them like, here's the tailorsof tech streams, here's the tailos of
EV streams, here's the tails oftech podcast tailos of tech just regular,
and they're not. They're they're beingso slow about it, and they said,
Okay, maybe it'll refresh if youdelete the app, unfollow the show,
and then re download the app andfollow the shows again. And I
(01:51:06):
was like, why is this nota problem on Spotify? It updated on
Spotify like that, like instantly,with the same hosting service, so I
know it's not Spreaker's fault. Iknow it's on Apple, and I've been
emailing them back and forth. Usuallythey send me an email and say,
okay, I looked at the youknow, the normal episodes where it's just
(01:51:26):
you know, five to six minutesbecause it's just the YouTube videos and audio
form and those refreshed. So theperson said, hey, look they're already
updated. You're welcome. Problem solved. And I said no, no,
no, no, no, yougot to refresh all of them, not
just those two. And I respondwithin five minutes of them emailing me,
and then I don't hear back fromthem for like a day, so they
take forever to get back to me, and I have no clue what their
(01:51:49):
problem is. I don't know whyit's so hard for them to update artwork
because no one else is having thatissue. I've done everything right on my
end. And for some reason,why are you're not interested in covering crypto
even though it's still tech Because it'sjust a big giant scam. What else
is there to talk about with crypto? Guys? The values up today.
(01:52:14):
People aren't buying crypto because they thinkit's the future of currency. They're buying
it to make a buck because it'sunregulated and it doesn't close like the stock
market closes. I'm very close tocashing out all my crypto because it seems
to be at an all time highat the moment. So I'm kind of
like, yeah, I don't reallybelieve in this, but people have sent
me crypto in the past. Ihaven't bought any, but I'm just like,
(01:52:38):
yeah, if you want to giveme some imaginary currency, I guess
I'll take it. But yes,I'm still on my OE tires. I
got them rotated last week and theguy said that they still look great.
They still look fine, So thatkind of helps. When I'm a featherfoot
lawyers exist my parents just to giveup on YouTube as a creator? What
(01:53:00):
is your motivation and do you gotany tips? It helps if you're interested
in what you're talking about. Ithink that's what I just keep coming back
to. You should definitely cash outall your crypto right now if you have
some. Well I did that before, and I would have had more money
now if I didn't cash out early. So every day that it goes up,
(01:53:24):
I'm grateful I haven't cashed out,but it should help me cover my
losses on Canoe. Actually, Ithink it covers all of it. Yeah,
so all of the money I'll makefrom crypto will cover all the losses
from investing in Canoe, which wasa big mistake. I'm waiting for elon
(01:53:46):
make my five dollars of doe goto the mood. Yeah. I have
some doge coin as well, butit's just it was a gift. I
would say, have a backup plan. That's what I had for YouTube.
I didn't bet my whole life onit, Like, if this doesn't work
out, I will have no job. I would say, talk about things
that are interested in. Have abackup plan. You know, I didn't
(01:54:10):
just straight out of high school doYouTube full time. I worked a regular
job that made you know, realmoney so that I could pay my bills,
and I did YouTube on the side. And then I worked that regular
job until YouTube was making enough forme to quit. So I wouldn't.
I wouldn't just you know, liveon unemployment or not make any money out
(01:54:30):
of school. You know, ifYouTube should always be a side project first,
and if it takes off, thengreat, but there's no guarantees,
so don't count on it taking offbecause there's no promises, no guarantees with
YouTube careers, they can come andgo. They can they can leave just
as fast as they arrive. Andif you talk about things are interested in,
(01:54:54):
then at least you'll be enjoying yourselfalong the way. Yeah, Crypto's
just a bunch of pump and dumps. That's why there's so many crypto scams.
It's because it's unregulated, so it'smuch much easier to scam people with
crypto than anything else. Canoe isstill they're not dead yet, but they're
a heavily depreciated electric vehicle company thatApple almost bought, and all the reports
(01:55:15):
are saying that Apple the Apple Carinternally looked a lot like the Canoe electric
vehicle. Consistency is what matters whenmaking YouTube content. It gives viewers confidence
that you'll be around in the longterm. Yeah, that's a good advice,
mar Jill, thanks for saying that. Yeah, if you're still in
high school, then just keep youroptions open. You know, don't assume
that you're definitely going to make itin YouTube, and you don't have to
(01:55:38):
prepare for any other jobs or careersanyway. Seems like t mobiles freaking out,
So now's a good time to wrapup the stream, but I appreciate
you all for your support, yourgenerosity, thank you for tuning in,
and I'll chat with you all morelater. Have an excellent rest of your
day, Bobby,
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