Apple's Robotic ARM HomePod? or iPad?

Tailosive Tech Streamed: August 28th, 2024

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good more long, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Tailosee
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Daniel Nicholas che Wow, so many people join in before

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the stream even started. Okay, let me make sure YouTube's
getting Emory usage chrome. My goodness, we got some huge
questions from the tailos of tech pro members. Okay, it
is working cool. Everybody, I guess had a huge comment
to drop. I guess on this huge display I'm looking

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at it doesn't look too big. But anyway, we'll be
addressing the pro member questions first just to kick things off,
and then of course I can address the chain as well,
So everybody just get comfortable, get cozy, and try to
remember this one best. Yeah. Okay, let's switch over here,

(01:10):
starting off with what's in the title? Who was it
was funny? Oh yeah? YJ Choi commented one of the
first ones, so he even gave us a warning. Thank you,
YJ Lung comment warning. He dropped several Thank you everybody
for your support. By the way, do you think Apple
Intelligence will be treated like its own digital product that

(01:34):
gets new versions announced, For example, next year at dubdub
they announced Apple Intelligence second gen, third gen, etc. Or
will they just keep mentioning here's new feature we added
to Apple Intelligence in both product presentation and or newsroom post.
Very interesting question. I feel like it could genuinely go
either way. Like I could see Apple coming up with

(01:56):
features that just says kind of treating it like an OS.
You know how you know, the iMac pro basically can
run you know, Sequoia, but there's a bunch of features
that they just say not compatible with you know, Intel
Max or not compatible unless you have an M one
chip or an M two chip, that kind of thing.
So I would guess they will treat it more like

(02:17):
an operating system based on the way they structured the website,
Like the website is built currently so that when you
scroll down to the bottom of the Apple Intelligence page,
it lists what things it runs on, kind of similar
to how an OS would list features on Apple's website.

(02:39):
So that would be my personal prediction is that they
won't necessarily say here's Apple Intelligence two where they treat
it more like a hardware product and say, Apple Intelligence
two can do all these things, but you need a
blah blah blah chip to run Apple Intelligence too. I
don't know if personally I can foresee those kinds of
feature being that noteworthy. I wonder how much of a

(03:05):
phase Apple Intelligence or this whole AI trend is versus
Did I capitalize ARM out of habit because of the
chip architecture. Yeah, I was kind of going for a
double meaning there arm there's an ARM involved. But yeah,
I could see Apple Intelligence quickly kind of losing its steam.

(03:28):
Is in like they come up with some large language models,
they come up with some generative AI stuff, but then
after a while it just turns back into like, I
guess this is just slightly better digital assistant. I'm struggling
to figure out what they could add to it each
year to be like this one requires a new neural engine.
And this is the second generation, here's the third generation,
here's the fourth generation. I don't know. Maybe my imagination

(03:50):
is limited, but I think there's a limited number of
use cases for generative AI, and I don't think they'll
treat it more like a digital product as you suggest.
But anyway, addressing the title and addressing Yjchoy's second comment
down here, he says, what are your thoughts on Apple
being Robert to be working on robots in the home.

(04:13):
I'm not kidding when I say I've wanted a robot
that could put my empty coffee cup in the kitchen
sink for me to wash later. What are you washing
it later, YJ? Or is the robot washing it? Or
turn off the basement light switch, or give me the
ability to remotely do things in my house without me
being there. Imagine being able to wear Apple Vision Pro
and having a humanoid robot sitting at home charging and

(04:35):
I can remotely, using the almighty power of five G,
fold the laundry by controlling the robot, or edit a
video project that I started in my computer but didn't
have the time to transfer to my MacBook. I feel like, honestly,
any of those things could be done by the robot,
not you controlling the robot, much much sooner than the

(04:55):
technology for you to actually have a humanoid robot. I
haven't seen many reports or much evidence that Apple's working
on humanoid robotics, but there have been some leaks and
rumors surrounding Apple making some kind of kind of iMac
G four looking, you know, HomePod that kind of looks
like the iMac and the thumbnail that could move the

(05:17):
display around. It's interesting. I will give it that, But
to me, I get strong, strong prototype e vibes like
this may be one of Apple's internal moonshot projects that
we never see the light of day. You know, I
say that, and I believe that there are all kinds
of projects that Apple works on that never releases, kind

(05:38):
of like the Apple car that was like a ten
year project basically, and they spent billions of dollars on
it and we basically got nothing for it. There was
another there was never any really you know, a product
release or confirmation that it even existed from Apple, but
they hired all kinds of automotive engineers. It was kind
of an open secret. It was. It was pretty obvious

(05:59):
that they were developing some kind of vehicle, but then
obviously ended up scrapping it because they just didn't feel
like it would be very competitive or interesting for their business,
which is a shame because I would have loved to
see Apple enter the car space. But trying to think
of scenarios in which this would be useful and all
I could really think of is kind of center stagey

(06:21):
type features where you put a product in the corner
and then the display moves around as needed. But to me,
you know, anything of course with an actuator and a
moving part is going to be obviously much more complicated,
much more prone to failure, having more problems with it.
So I feel like this could be something they're just

(06:43):
toying around with that never launches. But I used to
say similar things about Apple Vision Pro. You know, there
were rumors surrounding this very expensive three thousand dollars mixed
reality headset that wouldn't be glasses that you know, you'd
be looking at displays that would put your surround on
them through cameras, and I remember thinking, oh, this is
a moonshot project, this is just an internal development tool,

(07:06):
This isn't something Apple would actually release, And then they did,
so I've been wrong before. It's worth mentioning that there
are certain things I go, that's a little bit out
there when Apple really release a product like that, and
then they do on occasion, but there's more questions about
that from the pro members as well, so we should
probably get into that. But I'm not a big believer

(07:27):
at this point unless I see some really, really compelling
evidence that there's incredible development going on. But I am
not a huge believer in humanoid robotics really taking off
into any kind of extreme scale, in any kind of
mass production. I mean, I've seen Boston Dynamics videos. They're

(07:48):
very impressive. I love the gymnastics videos and the dancing videos,
and the hardware is cool. Don't get me wrong. It
can do some really cool things. And I love watching
the Boston dynas mix videos where it does parkour and
stuff like that. But just as insightful, just as educational
as those videos are, are the behind the scenes of

(08:09):
those humanoid robotics videos, where they show you that for
hours and hours and hours, these robots are failing and
tripping and falling, and they're very expensive, by the way,
to get the materials cheap enough so that it can
be lightweight and agile. And what they don't tell you
in most of those videos is they have very short

(08:29):
battery lives. They don't last very long on a charge.
And I know Tesla has obviously expressed a ton of
interest into getting into humanoid robotics. I call it Bullhow
you know, Tesla bulls want something to eat. So all
you have to do is convince a small percentage of
the population that if there's a greater than zero percent

(08:51):
chance of the Tesla bot working out and being super
successful and being you know, really capable and being able
to replace a lot chunk of the manual labor force,
then you could convince a lot of people that Tesla's
going to become a thirty trillion dollar company because they're
going to replace all jobs with the Tesla bot. I
just I'm like, you can't even get FSD workings. That

(09:14):
sounds relatively simple compared to all of the complexity that
goes into a humanoid robot. There's just edge cases upon
edge cases upon edge cases that I don't even think
we've started the Trail of nines yet. And a humanoid
robot has to get very very good at walking and
navigating a household, let alone figuring out how to fold

(09:36):
laundry correctly, and they need all kinds of you know,
generative ais. I think what most people are speculating is
why humanoid robots are kind of having another resurgence. You know,
I remember watching Honda display humanoid robotics, you know, decades ago,
very very long time, there's been development and work gone

(09:56):
into let's make droids. I mean that was kind of
the whole vision back in Star Wars, is that there
would be these robots that look like people that can
walk around and do everything a person can. So it's
definitely not a new idea. It's been a centuries old
idea of let's just make androids that are like people
and do all the work of people, but of course
aren't people, so they can work much longer, they won't

(10:17):
complain as much and very dystopian, very creepy. But I
just think that there's a lot of things humans take
for granted that seem very very simple, like just moving
your hands around picking up a you know, a laundry
basket or washing dishes that we think are not that complicated.

(10:39):
And it's very very easy for some big shot that
has a billion dollars to tell his software team, make
it do that. You know, they should just do what
a human does. Make it watch a human and then
repeat what the human does. But then there's just like, oh,
you didn't exactly scrub the dish the right way, or
you didn't stack it the right way, or you drop
the dishes on the floor and didn't clean it up,

(11:00):
and you know, there's all kinds of things that now
a lot of people are thinking, oh no, it's got
the humanoid robot will get better now because we have
generative AI technology and that will make them smarter and faster,
you know, more convenient. But there's just a lot of
context that even chatbots miss. So I definitely think you're
going to find problems problems upon problems of missing context

(11:24):
or missing the point. And I've talked about it on
this channel before, but from my experience of seeing how
generative AI develops over time, whether it be large language
models or machine learning or neural net training, whatever you
want to call it, I tend to see that it
makes big spikes in performance occasionally, and that's that's how

(11:47):
you get like those chat GPT moments where it's like, oh,
this actually got three times better than a typical chat bot. Therefore,
if this rate of progress continues, it's going to be
near perfect or it's going to be smarter than human
within just a few short years. And that rarely ever happens.
From all the experience I've seen with anybody using those
kinds of AI, technologies is it's usually big spike in

(12:10):
performance and then it levels off and the next five
percent of improvement becomes ninety percent of the work, and
then the last five percent of improvement you need and
for it in order for it to become truly autonomous
or just as good at a human at doing whatever
job you want, becomes impossible, Like you can just never

(12:31):
fine tune it perfectly enough. And I think a lot
of people just think we've recreated the human brain with
this AI stuff, and in reality, they still work very
fundamentally differently. There is some overlaps. That's why they call
it neural net training. It's because it's a network, you
know that kind of feels like neurons, which is how

(12:53):
our brain works. But we don't give the human brain
enough credit for being able to remember and understand context.
You know, my uncle is a software engineer for a
pretty big operation. I don't think I'm supposed to say who,
but it's he works with this kind of software all
the time, and he told me he's not that impressed

(13:13):
with anything that's really come out in recent years, whether
it be Chat, TPT or Gemini or anything. Really He's
just like, yeah, you can tune algorithms to do some
pretty cool stuff, but it's rarely a human replacement. It's
usually a human tool. It's like, yes, this will help
our existing engineers work harder or be more productive, I
should say, is a better way to phrase it. But

(13:34):
it doesn't necessarily mean that it gets rid of a
bunch of people's jobs, or that it reaches the point
of like ROBOTAXI or in my opinion, the feature of
making a humanoid robot that could fold your laundry or
take the dishes to the kitchen, is just way more intricate,
way more complex, and again, edge case upon edge case

(13:55):
upon edge case, it's really just a field of edge cases.
I'm just like, oh, this person's floor a little bit uneven.
Will the cameras be able to catch that? Oh? Now
they have to be able to find this or navigate
around this or not trip on this. And there's just
constant changing and constant context that is missing, and large
language models even still miss the point sometimes. So imagine

(14:18):
how many different points you could miss with something as
simple as navigating a household and learning how to stack laundry,
or even just figuring out whose clothes are which you
know don't put my wife's clothes in with my clothes.
You know, those kinds of differentiating things which all sound
relatively simple. Everyone's like, oh no, I think an AI
could figure that out. But it's like try it, you know,

(14:39):
actually try to deploy it, and you will find I
don't know, trying to find a use case where the
humanoid robot, at least in a home could work. Maybe
there's industrial applications I could get behind, Like maybe a
robot that doesn't have legs but just sits on one
part of the assembly line with two hands and puts
two parts together, and it just does one thing repeatedly,

(15:01):
over and over. And I'm like, Okay, yeah, that maybe,
but that's not exactly the big disruptor. A bunch of
people we're hoping for looking for humanoid robots will require
too much resources to replace human activities. I don't think
it's necessarily a resource problem. Like I believe Tesla can
develop super cheap batteries, super cheap actuators and everything you

(15:22):
need to physically make the hardware, but I think they
will require too much supervision and it'll get to the
point where it's like this would actually just be cheaper
for a human to do, it's going to have to
get very very good at knowing what to do and
how to analyze other workers' behaviors to figure out the
context of how to add things. But the analogy I

(15:45):
was getting at, I'm promised we're going to talk about
other things, but this is just a fun topic and
why j Choy asked about it, So I'm figured this
is a good time to talk about it because I
don't want to make a designated video. It would just
be a tangent and it probably wouldn't perform all that great.
But the analogy my uncle used was, if you're teaching
something to a human, a human understands like learning something

(16:12):
or context a lot lot better, you know. Like I'm
teaching my younger sister how to drive right now. She's
fifteen and a half and she has her learner's permit,
which means she doesn't have her license, So we just
have to sit in the front seat with her and
kind of guide her and tell her, you know, where
she can change or improve or you know, don't turn
too hard there, and make sure you stay in the
lane here, that kind of thing, and the typical human

(16:36):
can just drive, you know, during that learner's permit process. Collectively,
I want to say probably less than a thousand miles,
you know, like maybe it's five hundred and six hundred
miles of you know, supervised with another adult practice driving.
And maybe we'll get generous and say, Okay, maybe it's

(16:59):
a thousand miles training. Maybe let's round up. Let's just
say it's two thousand miles. So my younger sister has
to go through two thousand miles of supervised driving before
she is safe enough and consistent enough to pass the
driver's test and get her license. Think about how many
miles of supervised driving that Tesla has had to do

(17:21):
with full self driving, and they are still not to
the point where they're ready to be unsupervised. Now, you
could argue that maybe the Tesla system will be much
much safer than a teenage driver, But the point is
the government and the state you know laws have approved
that if you can pass this you know, DMV driving test,

(17:43):
you are therefore safe enough to have a license and
be on the road. And let's even say it's that
my sister becomes much much safer than the average teenage driver,
Like she's four times safer, maybe because she practices way more. Okay,
that's still like eight thousand miles of driving practice, whereas
Tesla's in the hundreds of millions of miles, where this computer,

(18:10):
in this camera and all of this neural net training
being done, has millions of miles of practice, and there
are still critical mistakes it makes, which is why it
wants that constant supervision in Tesla at this time still
does not feel it is ready to go to wide release.
That's just one example, but the one my uncle used

(18:30):
was like, if you were showing a human very basic,
like everyday household items like here, this is a fork,
you'd be like, okay, I got it, fork, all right,
this is a spoon, and then the human would go, okay,
got it. This is a spoon. But the AI would go, okay,
this is a spoon, and that first thing you showed

(18:51):
me is also a spoon, and then you have to
give it thousands of pictures of forks and spoons so
that it can understand the difference between the two. Whereas
a human oftentimes not always, but oftentimes can be shown
something once or twice and then it gets it, and
then we have a pretty good tendency to just be like, Okay, yeah,
I get it. That's a spoon, that's a fork. Whereas

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a computer will need lots and lots of training data
many different angles of forks and spoons. It could see
the fork from a certain angle and thing, wait a minute,
that looks more like a spoon. Is that now a spoon?
And there are still just inherent fundamental differences to the
way generative AI works versus the human brain, which is
why I don't think whereas big billionaires and CEOs that

(19:36):
are investing in these big humanoid robot pro projects, I
think are assuming that with jen ai, we've basically developed
a silicon version of the human brain, and I don't.
I think there's some overlap in how they function, but
I do think they are fundamentally different. Anyway, Nicholas Lithekum

(19:58):
is talking about password apps. What are you guys talking about?
Apple's going to force us to have a new app
just for passwords. I prefer them hidden messages for the
rare use case I need it? Can you delete it?
Can you not? I think for a lot of older
people out there, having a dedicated app is much easier
because they forget that they can go into settings and
find it. Let's see. Michael says, I think people don't

(20:22):
realize how far away we are from that kind of world.
The current large language models do not actually think. They
just sort of predict what words should be used next.
I agree, he says. The other day I asked Jemini
if I could change its voice, and it verbally told
me that it couldn't speak out loud. Yet studies show
chat to BT has incorrect information half the time. I
was also just talking to a friend of mine that
said chat GPT has gotten dumber, which is another edge

(20:46):
case I don't think people realize is that the more
people use it in the more training data you give it,
it doesn't necessarily get smarter over time. Actually, sometimes if
there's too much data or too much false data being
given to it, it will actually get dumber over time.
So there's another obstacle in the development that a lot
of people didn't expect. Everybody just assumed that with these

(21:07):
large language models they would just progressively get better and
smarter and smarter overtime, and they expected the progress of
its capabilities to be linear, when in reality they're much
more of an S curve. In my opinion, where you
start off a little bit flat, then you get a
big spike in performance, and then it levels off again.
But everybody expects it to be exponential and just get smart, smart,

(21:28):
smart smarter. I feel there was a missed opportunity with
Apple not putting mag Safe on the home pod for
iPhone and AirPods. I don't know, do you really want
your phone mounted right there on the top of the speaker.
I don't know if I would leave it there that much.
But Michael Asita says, do you have to change your
plans because of the events. I haven't decided yet. Actually
I did have to change plans, though, Yeah, I'm not

(21:50):
sure what I'm doing yet. I might I might not
be home when the event is going on. I might
be at a friend's house. But we'll see. It depends
on how much driving I gotta do. Although using your
browser as a passport manager is less secure since browsers
is such an obvious target for exploitation, but it's hard

(22:12):
to get used to a standalone app. I think this
is a techy, minimalist thing. I think you're more picky
about your home screen. You're going to care more about
having a designated app. But the general consumer, I don't
think cares all that much. You know how many people
I've seen with their iPhones that have never changed the
wallpaper and have never arranged their home screen once. They

(22:35):
literally just have pages and pages of apps. Even if
an app they use all the time every day is
six pages deep, they will just swipe to it. Like,
I feel like that's more common than you think. I
bet there's more people that never enter jiggle mode, that
never rearrange their home screen that have iPhones. There's probably
like three of those people for every one person that's

(22:57):
in the tech community that's really picky about their home screen.
But adding an app to a home screen, I don't
see that as a big deal. Hummus yummis love that name,
says passwords earning settings anymore. Personally, I use passwords often
enough that having a dedicated app is more convenient. That's
scrolling through settings fair enough. I don't use them all
that much, but I still have just like, if just

(23:19):
put it in the folder, you know, just put it
in the utilities or I think there's ways you can
remove it from the home screen but leave it in
the app library. Carl Ryde says, yep, he is right.
My mom has ten pages of apps, doesn't understand folders, etc. Yeah,
it's my mom and dad too. But I know for
a fact, if I tried to sit them down and say, hey,
we need to rearrange your home screen. Let's put all

(23:40):
of these apps in here and all of these apps
in here, they would forget where everything is. They wouldn't
know where to find anything. But I've actually met my
other uncle. He just searches everything. He never looks through
the pages of apps on his home screen. Literally, anytime
he needs to launch an app, he just swipes down
sometimes from the lock screen or swipes to the side

(24:02):
and just hits the search button. You know, if he's
looking for facebook at fac Facebook Okay, if he's looking
for DoorDash dr doordat, you know, he literally just launches
it from search every single time. He does not care
about his home screen at all. What do you think
about Apple partnering with Rivian After all the funds of
development that went into the car project, I can imagine

(24:22):
they'd want to fully they'd want to just fully dispose
of it. Yeah. They they're Apple. They have no problem
sinking billions of dollars into something that goes nowhere. So
I wouldn't completely put it past them to scrap it.
But that's the funny thing. Rivian is fairly outspoken that
they don't want to have car Play. So that's why

(24:44):
I saw those rumors and reports that were claiming like,
is Apple gonna partner with Rivian? And I'm like, and
do what, I don't know. I don't think they're a
perfect match if I'm being honest, Like if Apple wanted
to partner with a car brand and say like, Okay,
all of these cars are going to officially have our
own specific car operating system, so that even if you
don't have an iPhone, even if you don't use CarPlay,

(25:06):
it's still gonna boot up with like an Apple designed
software experience. They did, and maybe they put Apple Silicon
in the car to power the enfotainment or even power
the self driving tech or whatever, because Apple developed a
bunch of internal self driving stuff, but apparently it wasn't
very good because they scrapped the whole thing. I feel
like they would pick a more luxurious, premium brand. Rivian

(25:29):
is more about off roading and venturing, and I love Rivian,
Don't get me wrong. It's not like the worst partnership
in the world. But I just feel like Apple and
pickup trucks. I don't know, I just feel like they
don't go together. The only like symmetry I could seem
I could maybe see between Apple and Rivian would be

(25:51):
like I remember Rivian talking about I think it was R. J. Scrinch,
the CEO, talking about how they designed their car to
try to make it something you'd want to take pictures of.
And they like the idea of photography and taking your
Rivian out to places where you want to take pictures
with it, you know, camping or off roading or going

(26:14):
to beautiful national parks and that kind of thing. And
Apple cares a lot about photography with their iPhones. Maybe
there's some kind of meshing going on there. Don't get
me wrong, I'd be super pumped and excited if Apple
partnered with Rivian. I'm just saying from a prediction standpoint,
the fact that Rivian has been very outspoken about car
play makes me think that's probably not the brand they

(26:36):
would partner with. I think Apple would want to be
associated a bit more with maybe a more established brand
that's as a bit more legacy or something that already
is known for supporting car play, whether that be Portia. Yeah,
like Alex is saying maybe a BMW. You know, they
supported the car key feature through the Apple Wallet app

(26:56):
and stuff like that. Lucid, I want it tappen. I
mean there was a segment in not this year's but
last year's Dub Dub where they had a Lucid widget
on macOS. He was trying to show like, I can
pre cool my car from my Mac now, and that
was a Lucid widget. So there's been subtle nods to
Lucid from Apple, but I think they're just too dangerous

(27:18):
of a startup. I think Apple would be worried about
partnering with a company that has such poor financial financials.
Like I think Lucid will be okay personally, Like, I
really love Lucid's products and I love their focus towards efficiency.
I've driven the Lucid air myself, and I've met with
Loocid employees and customers, and they're very passionate. They're very

(27:40):
proud of their products that I think they'll be okay.
But it's you'd have to be in denial to not
acknowledge that that company is completely afloat, purely because of
Saudi money, and they are not profitable on their own.
They make the least profitable vehicles in the world. Like
they lose. They lose more money per vehicle than any

(28:00):
other brand. Like Rivian still loses like thirty thousand dollars
per truck or suv, but Lucid is still losing like
two hundred thousand dollars per car. Even if you factor
in like, well they're expanding, well, they're they're spending more
money on future development costs. It's like, yeah, so is Rivian,
but they're not losing two hundred grand per vehicle, so

(28:23):
Lucid is. I think they'll be okay because they've they've
got a great partnership going on with the Saudis right now,
and just that uncertainty with their future, Like if the
Saudi decided to pull out, they'd be screwed. I don't
think they'd have a way to keep themselves afloat. I
don't think that will happen. But Apple probably wouldn't want
to associate themselves with a brand that new and that small,

(28:45):
actually a company that's very much in favor of adopting
the latest and greatest technology and having car play and
stuff like that is Pollstar, which I've met the CEO
of if you want to check that out on tayl
us at Ev. Although he announced he's just stepping down.
Hopefully that's not a side of what's to come. I

(29:06):
just I met the CEO of Polestar, and then he
retired a month later. He met me and was like,
I just can't do this anymore. But they make a
really good looking cars that have a performance emphasis, but
they also have a really good emphasis on software and technology,
and they're the kind of company that I could totally
see Apple embracing. I don't know, there's something about Polestar's

(29:28):
design language that feels very Johnny Ive to me. If
you've seen the Polestar four, it has a very Apple
esque exterior and interior, And I feel like Apple would
care more not so much about selling it super high volume.
They'd care more about just having really good build quality
and really good experience. You know, Apple's always said Tim

(29:51):
Cook has always said at least that their focus is
not to sell the most of anything. Their goal is
to sell the best. They want to sell, the best
version of a phone or the best tablet or the
best laptop. They don't want to sell the most popular one.
If it happens to become the most popular one, of
course they'll take it. But he retired after you jump scared.

(30:13):
I don't think they're gonna buy Fisker. There's not much
valuable there. Randy still says they're not a real company.
Pole Stars are like glorified Volvos. Yeah, exactly, and I
think that would be a good mess. Apple acquires Tesla
once they have been a possibility, not anymore. Elon may
not even want to continue supporting excellent. Elon would not

(30:35):
last two days on Android count. That's why I told
Elon he should make a phone, because he underestimates everything.
I mean, you have to when you're as optimistic and
as crazy as he is. Obviously, I understand you need
that crazy mind like Elon to attempt the things that
he's attempted. If he was a pessimist or a realist

(30:57):
that saw things normally like we all do, wouldn't have
made SpaceX. He wouldn't have made Tesla what it is today.
I know he didn't start Tesla, but Tesla was practically
nothing before Elon was there. So still my point is
you need that crazy to get companies started. And off
the ground. But you still have a crazy optimistic view

(31:22):
on things. And I don't think he thinks smartphones are
very complicated. I think he believes, like, oh, I could
make my own phone and we'll take Twitter off of
iOS and make everybody buy this Tesla phone or this
x phone. You have the iPhone and then you have
the x phone. Right, But I think it would suck
and I'd have a bunch of problems, and all the
tech reviewers would trash it and be like, no, the

(31:43):
image signal processing is bad, the battery life's not great,
and you know, there'd be a bunch of things he
realizes are way more complex that Apple spends billions and
Google spends billions on developing and making just right to
give them just a little bit of a competitive edge
over everybody else, and getting the app store as consistent

(32:04):
or as quality as it is on Apples would be really,
really hard to match. I don't think he could do it,
but I still think it'd be fun to watch him try.
He always threatens anytime Apple does something he doesn't like.
He's like, Okay, I'm gonna leave iOS, or no one
at my companies will be allowed to use iPhones and
it's like, oh, really, I don't think he's used an

(32:27):
Android phone in his life, and I would love to
see him try. Seeing how little things bug him about iOS,
like he'll complain about the male app, or he'll complain
about tiny little things. It's like, oh, dude, you should
try an Android phone. See how that goes. It would
make for an interesting It would give us in the

(32:48):
tech community a lot to talk about. And I don't
think it'd be good, but I still think it'd be funny.
I would love to see Elon makeup phone. I think
you'd have all of these hardcore Elon fanboys, all these
Tesla fans that are like, oh yeah, Elon vone for sure,
I'll go out and buy it day one and they'll
switch to it and they'll just start complaining and complaining

(33:09):
and they're like, I love you Elon, but this is
kind of terrible. I would like to see him switch
to Android. He'd be complaining NonStop. Taking off Twitter from
iOS and Android and making it exclusive to xphone or
whatever would kill Twitter. Well, I think he's doing that already.
Thank you casual Gamer for joining Taylor's of tech Plus.

(33:30):
By the way, I appreciate the support. Anyway, I gotta
address these comments from the pros before I forget. Let's
jump over here, big, big comment from Nicholas Linda comment
he's talking about Randy, which I hope is still in
the chat. He says, I knew Randy from the Randy
Nexus YouTube channel recently made a video on his channel
about who he believes may become the successor of Tim

(33:51):
Cook for Apple. He mentioned John turnas not just because
of what reports have been saying, but he also believes
John is being predominantly more focused and shown off more
in Apple keynotes. Randy also mentioned he welcomes Apple going
off the grid and not appointing the next CEO but
the chief hardware engineer. Do you believe this would be
a good idea or do you think the success of
Apple may become realistically? But also who do you think

(34:14):
would be most suited for the role of CEO and
what direction could they steer the company? I agree with
Randy completely. I think John turnis. What I think is
great about John is he's young and still pretty ambitious.
He's much younger than most of the other guys on
Apple's board. So I agree with Randy completely. And what
I would appoint John Turnis for is how well he's

(34:36):
managed the Mac. He's really turned it around. I think
he's been the right balance of listening to consumer feedback
and then executing it in a way that still creates
a fantastic design language while still being functional. So my hope,
I don't know what the board of directors or what
the shareholders are going to approve. There's not just one

(34:57):
person in charge of who becomes CEO. They're not gonna
just ask YouTubers who do you think should be CEO? Now,
there's a bunch of variables that go into it. There's
probably a safe choice of going with the CEO or
going with someone that just has good experience with managing,
you know, lots of money and bringing shareholder value. But
I would rather the chief executive at Apple be more

(35:20):
of a hardware guy, because I've always thought that Apple
hardware was kind of their strong suit, and their software
is great too, but can still leave much to be desired.
Whereas I feel like if we look at Apple's performance
or the things we like about Apple from the last
ten years, most of us I think are gonna list hardware.
We're gonna talk about iPhone ten or iPhone twelve Mini,

(35:43):
thirteen Mini, We're gonna talk about the Apple Silicon transition.
We're gonna talk about this new M four Macmini coming
out in a few months. And that's all on the
hardware side of things. And that's kind of what John
has been a spearheading. And I think that I would
like the guy in charge of Apple to be a
hardware guy first and foremost. Who knows if they'll actually

(36:03):
pick him. They might just pick a safe bet that's like, oh, yeah,
he knows how to manage supply chains, and I mean
that's why Tim Cook was picked. I mean he had
an experience with managing supply chains and figuring out how
to move inventory and bring complicated products into mass production.
That's originally why Steve Jobs brought Tim Cook to Apple

(36:24):
was because of how well he could manage supply chains.
So that was probably a safe bet. You know, he'd
been at the company for a while, he knew what
he was doing, and clearly he's brought a lot of
shareholder values. So I think they'll pick someone who's good,
who does a good job. It may not be John Turner's,
but Tim said an interview he won't be at Apple

(36:45):
for the next ten years. Yeah, I don't. He's he's
getting up there in age. I don't think he'll be
up there forever. I don't. I don't think he wants
to be up there forever. It's probably a lot of
pressure and a lot of work. Hardware and Apple Intelligence.
I know so many people who don't care at all
about Apple Intelligence, but Apple Intelligence using chettubt and because

(37:10):
the Elin did not understand it really angered him. I
know that was embarrassing. That was really bad. Betcha still
uses an iPhone. But hopefully that answers your question. Nicholas,
you had a second question too. You said, when it
comes to Apple announcing features in recent years multiple months
before they are ready to ship, what are your thoughts
on this? For instance, Apple recently did this when they
announced Universal Control. I believe it was announced at DUB

(37:32):
DUB twenty one. Then the officially shipped on iPads in
March of twenty twenty two. They also are currently having
a similar rollout, with specifically all of the Apple Intelligence
features being staggered over almost another year. Do you think
Apple should continue announcing software features almost a year in advance.
I personally feel like any features they announced dub dub
in June should all be ready for final release in
the fall. I would like to get your take on

(37:53):
this situation. So I have a little bit of experience
with this because I now work at a you know,
startup company, and I'm in the marketing team. Obviously, i
run the social media for tell O Trucks, and I'm
aware now with working with the engineers and working with
the rest of the company that there are a lot

(38:15):
of complicated things, especially with Apple, but it happens with
any company that take time to develop, and it's honestly
for the software engineers and the hardware engineers, it's one
of the most challenging things in the world to provide
an accurate timeline. It's incredibly difficult to say like this
will be done by this time. So you probably have

(38:35):
a marketing team, a huge marketing team and a PR
team and everything that works at Apple and is like,
we need to make sure that it dubb dub our
big software focused event, we announce a meaningful amount of features.
You know, if they just wanted to be honest and
not announce anything that wouldn't be ready until, like they

(38:55):
announced it like we're announcing it today and it's available today,
or it's available next month and it's available in two months.
They would hardly have anything to talk about at these events.
You know, they want to have an event, They want
to get people excited for the future version of operating
systems or future features that are coming, so they let
us know what's being developed and what's being worked on.

(39:17):
But I think expecting it all to be done by
a certain time, like this has to be done by
this this has to be done by this time is
just Anybody who wants that or is asking for that
doesn't understand how complicated software development is. A lot of
this stuff is not an exact science. It's not something
you can just add it accurately and adequately say this

(39:37):
will definitely be done and functional and working properly in
three months. You just don't know. There's troubleshooting, there's bug fixes,
there's patching, there's all of these stages. Well yeah, just
like Leo is saying, product marketing can get really out
of touch with engineering when let run free, I feel
like that's almost the case with all companies. I'm actually
dealing with that right now with the company I'm working

(40:00):
at where there are certain things that as the marketing guy,
I want to announce I want to talk about because
I have certain goals or I have for certain standards
or expectations of like I want to address this. The community,
the audience, our potential customers, or our viewers are asking
about this particular thing which you have an answer for.

(40:23):
Why can't I announce that? Why can't we talk about that?
And the engineering team is like, well, we're not ready
to talk about it yet. We want to wait till
it's really all ironed out and making sure it's working properly.
You don't want to launch things before they're ready. So
I think it's completely reasonable. Maybe my perspective is different

(40:43):
because I am working inside these companies now and I
can see about how many differences there are between marketing
teams versus engineering teams, and the marketing team is like,
get it done, get it done, get it done. But
I don't think it's a simple matter of money. I've
even talked to many people that work at app and
I know exactly what they're going through, and they've described
all the deadlines and things they have to push for,

(41:06):
and it's like, yeah, it's every software engineer's nightmare. Is
the marketing team showing up and saying, come on, get
it done, get it done. Why isn't this done yet?
And it's like, well, we could ship it now, but
it's not working properly. They're still bugs. And I don't
think you can just throw money at that problem and
just say okay, here's more money, fix it, you know,

(41:27):
make everything get done faster. Honestly, to me, it's a
miracle that Apple is able to release as many new
features as they do. A major new iOS and macOS
launch every single year, all of which have to have
some kind of meaningful, noticeable improvement, and the fact that
our phones work at all is kind of still still

(41:49):
mind boggling to me. Like, I think they're still doing
a fantastic job. And to me it's not a shocker
or a surprise at all that there's a lot of
things that aren't ready at launch. So that's my perspective
on it. Leo says, I work as a software engineer,
but my role is really close to product and product
project managers. There is a very delicate balance there. Yeah,

(42:12):
I mean Apple's working on all kinds of features all
the time, like, that's why I think it makes sense that,
you know, it's not like there's a specific deadline that
all software engineers definitely hit by June. That's like, Okay,
we're done, everything's done, now we can take a break.
It's like, no, they are constantly developing and working on
new features, and dub dub is just the one time

(42:34):
of year where they announce everything that they're working on.
It doesn't mean that everything they announce is done, because
there's probably some things that they just started prototyping or
experimenting with a couple weeks ago, and they're like, well,
marketing team really wants us to talk more about AI features,
or really wants us to talk more about iOS eighteen,
or they're saying, you know, watch Os is looking kind

(42:55):
of light or IPEd a wes No, they don't care
about IPEd West, but mac Os is kind of stale,
Like there's not enough features for the new mac Os.
We need to make mac Os feel like a big deal,
So let's announce some things that maybe aren't ready yet,
but just let people know that we're gonna ship this
by the end of the year or by the spring.

(43:15):
That kind of thing. Casual gamers has nothing to do
with tech. But you've said in the past that people
are inherently corrupt. I've never quite I understood what you
meant by that. I find that to be very cynical
in sweeping belief. I don't remember saying that, but I
do think maybe corrupt wasn't the right word. If that's

(43:37):
what you heard me say. There's a lot of implications
with that. But yeah, I'm still using an iPhone fifteen pro.
That's my camera right now. Maybe a different word than
corrupt is flawed. Let's put it that way. I don't
believe any human being is perfect. Could we agree there
there aren't perfect human beings. There are people who strive

(43:58):
to be good and strive to treat others with respect
and love and care for one another, but that does
not mean that they are flawless. I think everybody makes mistakes.
Everybody to a certain extent will think or act selfishly,
whether they intend to or not. People can acknowledge it.
I'm definitely flawed. That's kind of where more of my

(44:21):
ideology stems from. It's just like you have to actively
go against your own instincts to care for others or
be there for people. I think a lot of our
natural instincts flocked to do whatever makes you happy, do
whatever pleases you, hang around the people that serve you,

(44:42):
ignore the people that need things from you. What's the
context of the correct corrupt statement. I don't remember saying that,
but I'm trying to unpack what I mean, because I
think it's very easy to probably pull that statement out
of context and say, drew things, everybody's evil, and it's like,
that's probably that's probably a gross oversimplification. Let's just put

(45:05):
it that way. I think there are people that do
good things, of course, and I think human beings can
are capable of doing good things and caring for one
another in being respectful. And I think that's the best
part of humanity, is when we do act out of
selflessness and we act more caring for one another. But

(45:27):
I feel like we applaud that, and we praise people
who letther take care of others or treat others the
way they want to be treated. We applaud that and
we respect that because we know it inherently goes against
our natural instincts. I mean, that's where we always get
the impression of people acting childlike. If you're acting like

(45:49):
a child. You know, from a young age, if you're
not actively taught being, you know that you should care
for others or take care of other people. Your natural
instinct is I just give me the ice cream and
kne You don't care about the side effects or the consequence.
I want the toy, Give me the toy, don't let
don't share the toy. You know, the child's natural instinct
is not to share, and I don't think that's taught

(46:12):
to them. I don't think the parents are like, remember,
hold the toys to yourself and always ask for ice
cream before dinner. And you know that's not taught. That's
just most child's. Most children's natural instincts is give me, gimme, gimme.
So that's that's probably what I meant whenever. I don't
remember exactly saying human beings are inherently corrupt, But I

(46:33):
do think that we have to fight our own natural
instincts to be caring and thoughtless and care for one another.
That's probably what I meant. AnyWho human nature goes against good,
but at the same time, we're all born with that,
with a light inside of us. Yeah, I think everybody
has the capability of doing good. And being good. I agree,
so hopefully I addressed Nicholas's question that was an interesting

(46:57):
side tangent. Anyway, You're welcome, Nicholas. Hopefully I address both
of those. E Law also asked a question, thank you
for five months of support with the sales of Vision Pro.
Do you think Apple is going to change direction with
how they planned on carrying the product in the future,
maybe only producing cheaper models or scrapping the idea altogether.

(47:18):
I definitely don't think they'd scrapped the idea altogether. I mean,
look at the HomePod. The HomePod had one model, didn't
really sell all that well, but it found a passionate niche.
There were a few people that were very into the
HomePod purely because of the sound quality, but it never
got Bluetooth support. It still really only worked with Apple

(47:40):
Music and Airplay, and it was expensive compared to other
smart speakers. Then a few years go by and they
finally release a cheaper one HomePod Mini. A lot more
people like that one because it's more affordable, and we're like, okay,
this is more like it, this is better. And then
they refreshed the original HomePod just at a couple you know, weird,
you know, temperature sensors and smoke alarm detection, that kind

(48:04):
of thing, and they slightly tweak the sound system, but
they don't really lower the price all that much. But
here we are. Apple's got two newish home pods in
the last couple of years, even though the first generation
was kind of a flop, but it found a passionate
niche and I think that's kind of the stage Apple
vision pros in right now, especially because they've spent so

(48:25):
much time and money developing Visionos. There's like a whole
team of vision Os engineers that are working on spatial
computing and trying to make that better. But I don't
think Apple is stupid. I don't think they released Apple
vision Pro exclusively in the United States for the starting
price of thirty five hundred dollars. I don't think they
did that expecting it to sell like hotcakes. Like Apple's

(48:48):
got some of the best marketing in the world, they
probably have some of the best product in consumer research
data in the world. They were probably aware that the
thirty five hundred dollars headset was not going to sell
at the same scale as AirPods or the Apple Watch,
or of course the latest iPhone. I think they were
well aware that this was just kind of a mass
produced dev kit that they figured, you know, we want

(49:13):
to get better at spatial computing, and we believe this
is the future and there's a lot of potential in it,
but the app store has to start somewhere, and the
developers had to be aware of the possibilities of it
so that hopefully by the time they do make a
cheaper model, and they probably did want to figure out,
you know, it's it's kind of like leaving a free

(49:35):
money on the table. They were probably trying to figure out, like, hey,
you know what, maybe if the experience is really good
and it's really convincing to people, maybe it'll sell really
well at thirty five hundred dollars and then we'll have
good margins and we'll get lots of data. But if
it doesn't sell all that well, big wop. At least
we got, you know, we figured out how to mass

(49:56):
produce it, which is a manufacturing exercise in itself, or
mass produced a product as complicated as Apple Vision Pro.
So there was probably a decent amount of them at
the team or at Apple that were like, we just
need to figure out how to mass produce these things,
take the consumer feedback from having an actually released product,
and then hear what most people want attention to. So

(50:17):
they probably got a lot of reviewer feedback from channels
like Mine or Marquez that were like, Okay, the pixel
density is not the problem. It's probably a higher resolution
than you need to go. The pass through cameras are
pretty good, but not as good at low light. And
you've got a lot of feedback because they probably were
debating internally should we have the curved lenticular eyesight display,

(50:39):
and now they've probably released it and gotten a bunch
of data that says, I don't think you need an
eyesight display. It's creepy, it's not that convincing, and people
don't wear it during casual conversation. So now they know, Okay,
we could probably go with a lower resolution display and
we could probably drop eyesight. It's probably not that important

(50:59):
to have, or at least we could go cheaper on
the I sight display, or we could compromise in some way.
So people complain about the weight, people are like, yeah,
I don't need it to be made of metal and glass,
you know, I just want the weight to be lower
and There was even a company I was talking with
this morning that developed a head mount that is more
comfortable to wear Apple vision Pro with than it allows

(51:20):
for better field of view and all these kinds of advantages.
So Apple's probably seeing all of these third party accessories
for vision Pro and going, Okay, we could make the
vision Pro experience better with that. So there's certain things
you just straight up will not know if you don't
just release the product. So the first generation of any
Apple product is typically the worst, and usually they learn

(51:43):
the most from that one, and they find a way
to make the product better, and they figure out what
its advantages are and they lean into that. So I
don't think they are shocked or surprised that the vision
Pro hype has died down. Obviously, there was a lot
to talk about, a lot of new information when it
first came out, so there was a lot to dive
into there. But once everybody kind of made their peace

(52:07):
with it and said what they said, that's when it's like, okay, yeah,
back to the drawing board. So I think right now
we're back in the drawing board stage where Apple is
listening and developing the next generation and hopefully it's cheaper
and hopefully it improves on the first generation. But yeah,
I don't think they're going to scrap it this early.
I would be surprised if they just gave up on it.
But I would say look at the home Pod as

(52:29):
a classic example. Was not a very great first generation,
but it's still here, and they refreshed it and kept
adding things to it, even though it was not that
big of a market segment. Marchell, thank you for your
support for thirty six months. Holy crap, that's a long time.
Three years. That's very kind of you, he says. I

(52:49):
feel like vision pro and spatial computing generally won't become
mainstream unless if Apple updates the hardware every year, like
iPhones and max. I don't think it's as important that
it updates it frequently. I mean think of AirPod. AirPods
don't get updated annually. Sometimes they go two to three
years between updating air pods, but they're still incredibly popular.
I think it's a use case problem more than anything.

(53:10):
The price is one problem, but I think that if
the hardware was capable enough and the software was really
really good and immersive and worked in conjunction with the
other products in your ecosystem really really well. I think
you could actually make it go mainstream at three grand
I think that you could justify it if it became

(53:32):
this is the last screen you'll ever need. If you
could paste your iPhone screen on anything, and you could
turn external monitors everywhere you wanted, and it's your TV,
and it's your Mac, and it's your phone, and it
could even add features to your Apple Watch. It could
just paste an Apple Watch on your wrist. There's all
kinds of things that they just haven't gotten around to
improving or fixing yet. And I think that with the

(53:55):
right hardware, with the right battery life, and if it
got comfortable enough and capable enough, you could actually justify
it at three thousand dollars. The only reason I say
that is because look at the original iPhone. Everybody was
complaining that it doesn't do enough. You know, there's no
app store, there's no multitasking, it's very very limited, and
they said it's too expensive. So a lot of people said, well,

(54:17):
maybe if the iPhone gets better and gets cheaper over time,
more people will buy it. The iPhone never really got
much cheaper. It was like five hundred dollars with a
two year required contract to buy the original iPhone unlocked,
it was like seven hundred and fifty bucks. And now
you know iPhone thirteen, fourteen fifteen, you're expecting eight hundred dollars,

(54:42):
and most people are not buying the cheaper iPhones. The
best selling iPhone of the last year was actually the
Pro Max, so most people are spending twelve hundred dollars,
whereas when it launched it was more like, you know,
five hundred and seven hundred dollars. There's some inflation in there,
but my point is that the use case was found
in the function. He got better, the price didn't really
get much better. Similar thing with Apple Watch. It launched

(55:05):
it like three hundred and fifty dollars. There's cheaper versions
of it, but the Ultra is still out selling the
se so more people ended up dropping eight hundred bucks
than three hundred bucks. So similarly, I think, you know,
maybe they'll get Apple Vision cheaper, but I don't think.
I don't think it's gonna hit much more affordable than

(55:29):
an iPhone, you know, I don't think it'll get to
one thousand dollars. I think maybe it'll go down to
two thousand dollars or twenty five hundred dollars. Maybe if
we're lucky, it could go down to fifteen hundred dollars,
but you can't really add much to AirPods. That's WWISE.
They don't update it that frequently. That's not the same
with Vision Pro. Well, it's the first generation vision Pro.

(55:49):
Think about when the first generation AirPods came out. There
was no active noise cancelation, there was no wireless charging.
The case it was lightning only, there was no qualizer settings,
the audio quality was not that great, there was no
four stem. There's all kinds of things that AirPods have
improved upon over time. That first generation was missing a
lot of things that we probably use on a daily

(56:11):
basis now with our AirPods. So look at that with
the same context of Vision Pro. Sure, of course with
the first generation there's a lot to improve upon, but
I wouldn't be shocked if we got two, three, four
generations in with Vision Pro and it's kind of matured
to an extent. It's just kind of like, yeah, that's
that's about as good as it's going to get. Now.
It's just better battery life, better resolution. You know, what

(56:34):
else can you add? At this point? But yeah, the
first generation AirPods came out in twenty sixteen. I remember
because I was super pumped to try them out. It
was October of twenty sixteen or November, and they didn't
release new ones until twenty nineteen, so it was almost

(56:54):
three years before. And that was not even a very
major update. They just added new silicon to it that
improved the battery life I think a little bit, and
improved the microphone quality. It didn't get active noise cancelation,
which a lot of us would consider like a necessary feature,
until the end of twenty nineteen, so that was like

(57:15):
three years before they actually hit. I think Airpod's Pro
are the best sellers now, at least that's what Apple mentioned,
so until it hit kind of mass market mainstream. Pixel
nine Pro exl It's awesome and ice changed from the
iPhone for years. Drew, When does your Pixel nine Pro ride?
I haven't ordered it yet. I'm traveling, they were asking you,

(57:36):
guys were asking earlier, why might this be the last
live stream for a bit. It's because I'm going on
a trip in my favorite rocket ship, so I might
be I might be out of town for a while,
but I'm trying today to make as many videos as
I can that will drop as as I'm on my trip.

(58:03):
I just spilled water with my Apple bottle Apple bottom genes. Anyway,
Hopefully that answers your question, Marngel And Yeah, I think
every product Apple releases basically, they they take the feedback

(58:26):
and they figure out how to make it better. I
think that's the case with Vision Pro and every other
Apple product. I think Apple Vision Pro plays a big
role in Apples playing to revolutionize content consumption. Their exclusive
deals with Disney says a lot about it in my opinion. Yeah,
I agree. I agree. I think that's why they bet
so big on Apple TV Plus. They spend a lot
of money on that, and I'll admit it, it worked

(58:48):
out pretty well. There's a lot of people now that
are not techies, that are not Apple fans or anything
like that. I even know people that use Android that
really love Apple TV plus shows and talk about them
with their friends and family. They're like, oh, if you've
seen Ted Lasso, or oh you should watch see with
Jason Momoa, And I'm like, wow, Apple actually found a
way to go like, you know, mainstream with it. Yeah,

(59:12):
so I'll do a video on the new monitor. Would
I recommend it based on the experience so far, Yeah,
I mean there's a lot of options in this price segment.
But yeah, I'll talk about it in the video. I
haven't decided yet. If I'm switching. It's gonna be very
dependent on how the iPhone sixteen's are and long term

(59:39):
review of the pixels. I guess geez, that was completely unnecessary,
Chris Norton says, I like all your videos. Keep up
the great stuff, thank you very much. And just so
you know, Chris, that's completely unnecessary. I put your a
name in the outro credits because you've super chatted so much,
way too much. So you're very very generous, but please,

(01:00:00):
you don't have to donate so much, far too kind.
Let's see. Camera quality is great in your background. I'm
assuming you're not using the Ultroid lens. No, I think
we're back to the standard lens on the fifteen Pro today,
which is Yeah, it's pretty sharp. I like it. I
used it for an interview I had yesterday with another
YouTuber you've probably heard of. I'll be on their podcasts,

(01:00:24):
so look out for that. I'm very excited for seven
season two, but I'm cautiously optimistic. There was a I'm
still doing good on my quest to not pay a
cent for Apple TV Plus. I've never once subscribed, but
I have just found deals and used the free trials

(01:00:46):
and the free promos, and there's been so many promotions
and stuff over the years for Apple TV Plus that
I've caught up and watched a lot of the content
on there without paying a cent for it. So there
was already another promo that I got. I still have
the links saved in my Safari tabs for a three

(01:01:07):
month promotion to get three months of Apple TV Plus,
and I'm specifically waiting to redeem it until seven season
two comes out so that we can watch it because
that's still I think my favorite show on TV Plus.
And I've gotten trials upon trials, so we actually have
Apple TV Plus right now through a different promo. I

(01:01:27):
don't even know where we got it, but my wife
found it somewhere, but she got an offer for a
free month of Apple TV Plus, so we redeemed it
a few weeks ago. Actually, I think it's about to
run out, so we better keep watching. But we watched
in the past month the fourth season of Trying, which
is another one of my favorite shows on TV. Plus
very witty, very funny, very wholesome, lighthearted, happy show that

(01:01:52):
my wife and I both enjoy watching. I think ted
Lasso's overrated personally. Everyone talks about Ted Laso. I know
that everyone's just like, oh my god, if you still dead?
Lawso and we watched it and I was just like, really,
this is what everybody's so happy about. I don't know.
To me, it was just like pop culture reference, pop
culture reference, pop culture reference, Southern accent, British accent, Southern accent,

(01:02:13):
British accent. I just didn't find it as witty as
other stuff on there. I mean, I don't know. Maybe
it's because I'm not a sports guy. Severance is legit
one of the best shows I've ever seen. It's a
really good concept. But that's what I'm worried about is
that I feel like it was such a great first season.

(01:02:36):
I had a very similar feeling after watching the first
season of Stranger Things. Like the first season of Stranger
Things kept me up all night. It was on a
school night. I was in high school when it came out,
and I literally could not stop watching it. I stayed
up until like five in the morning because I had
to watch the next episode. I was like, well, I
can't stop watching now, and I had school the next day,
and I was like, I have to watch this. This

(01:02:57):
is so good. It just had me at the edge
of I see. And it was such a solid first
season that I was so hyped and so excited for
season two, and it was just a huge letdown because
of course with all of these streaming shows, any show
that they put on a streaming service, they have to
keep you waiting. They have to stuff the episodes with

(01:03:18):
B plots and C plots because they want you to
keep paying for your membership. So they usually stretch things
out way more than they need to, and they don't
address things, and they'll usually have a huge cliffhanger at
the end of an episode or at the end of
a season, and then they don't address it in the
next episode because they got to keep you watching, keep
you waiting for more, and that affects storytelling and I'm

(01:03:40):
not a fan of it. And that's why. And there
was also just some inherently really bad writing. In my opinion,
with season two of Stranger Things, it got better. Season
three was much better than season two in my opinion
and season four was actually it was predictable. It was
a little bit formulaic, but it was just so well
execut did the set design, the costume design, the acting

(01:04:03):
was just everything was so high budget and top tier.
It was it was enjoyable to me, even though it
was kind of predictable. It got to the point where
it's like, Okay, there's a formula. They're sticking to it.
How many times is bad thing happens with upside down
and then eleven screams and it has a nosebleed and
then problem solved. It's like, Okay, we get it, you know.

(01:04:26):
So I'm hoping with season five they can mess with
the formula. My other problem with Stranger Things is there's
not enough steaks. Like they always have to introduce new
characters and kill them off, but then the original characters
from season one they never want to kill off. I
think there needs to be some more steaks where you
actually lose people. That's why everybody was like justice for Barb.

(01:04:48):
You know, we lost Barb? What about Barb? But now
with all the new seasons, they just introduce new characters
so that they can kill them off. And I'm like okay, whatever,
there's no steaks. Everybody has to survive it somehow. But
I'm worried that Severans is gonna do what Stranger Things did,
where it's like the hype couldn't be higher. They really
got me all pumped up with the first season, and

(01:05:09):
then they're just not gonna address it in season two
and go back to like, Okay, that didn't really happen whatever.
I hate when a show's protagonist has an unbounded power
that fixes everything. Well, it works a little bit, it
works once or twice, but once it starts happening three
or four times, that's when it's like, Okay, now it's

(01:05:29):
just too predictable. How many times can we have eleven
X Machina? I like Ted Lasso more than Trying, if
you like Try and got boring in later seasons, Oh,
I couldn't disagree more with you, raptor Buddy Ted Lasto
to me got progressively less interesting the more I watched it.
I couldn't care less about like a bunch of rich

(01:05:50):
people trying to have a sport team perform. Well, I
was just like, who cares? I don't know. Maybe it's
because I'm not into sports, but I was just like,
I don't and a lot more language and a lot
more inappropriate stuff that makes it harder to watch with
younger people. You know, if I have family or friends over,

(01:06:11):
I don't want to hear about all they're crazy. I
don't know. It's just a lot more adult than people
were making it out to be. What fun do you
think this? I think has the second best video the iPhone.
I thought. I thought I made it clear. Maybe not

(01:06:32):
everybody knows, but I thought the Pixel had better video quality.
When I reviewed the Pixel eight, I actually preferred the
video quality from the Pixel than the iPhone. iPhone is
still very good, but a lot of people still I think,
just have this inherent brand loyalty or whatever that are
just convinced I phone has the best video and they've
been saying that for years, but they don't actually do

(01:06:53):
side by side. They don't actually watch the side by
side comparisons. I thought the Pixels have gotten incredibly good
quality now. Most live action shows feel rather predictable to me,
hence why I never talk about them. Trying just at
least for me, felt more relatable. It felt like I
don't know, I don't know. Professional football coaches and the

(01:07:15):
owners of major sports teams or you know, the CEOs
of app developer. I don't know those kinds of people
in my personal life, but the plot of Trying was
like just a young couple that's they want to start
a family and they're struggling, you know, like they don't
make a lot of money, they don't live in the

(01:07:36):
lavish houses, and they're just trying to get by, hence
the name trying. So I just found that. And they're funny,
like they're funny characters, they say funny things, and their
parents have a lot of personality to them. I love
the dad who's just kind of fed up with the
world and likes fixing things, but he's more traditional, whereas

(01:07:58):
they're more progressive and they butt heads on stuff, like
I don't know. It just was like, yeah, I can
relate to that. You know, you have certain people in
your family that are more politically charged, or other people
that are less politically charged, or some people are more
left leaning or more right leaning, and you have to
put up with them, or you have to you love
them and you care about them, but you hate it
when they go that way. That kind of thing, or
I don't know, it just felt like so much more

(01:08:20):
of a relatable plot that I'm like, oh, yeah, I
know people like that, or I know so many people
that are going through that experience. So to me, at least,
I really enjoyed it and it was written pretty clever.
Season four hasn't been my favorite season of Trying, but
it had its moments. I was expecting them to focus
more on the parenting and instead they just kind of

(01:08:42):
treat the kids like their their friends instead of, you know,
they're kids. But there's still some really funny scenes. I
don't think they're gonna announce the S four at this event. No,
that'll come in the spring. That's been rumored for a while.
Charged on Pieces. Charged on PC says, I actually used

(01:09:03):
the Pixel like pro. I feel like it might look
better in well lit environments, but the low light video
seems like it could be better. Well, I'm hoping that's
what I want to try out on the Pixel nine pro.
Is the recording at two different exposures at the same time.
I don't know. I just always felt like pixels had
better contrast. The iPhone felt more less contrasty to me.

(01:09:25):
Maybe in your personal use cases of recording in your
office the Pixel has better video, but I think people
still find iPhones more consistent in different scenarios. I recorded
in many different situations with the Pixel. I wasn't just
recording in my office. I was recording outside. I was
recording with cars, inside of cars, outside of cars, and
I found the video quality have more vibrant colors and

(01:09:45):
more contrast. I don't know. I think people just like
iPhones so they want to feel like they have the
best camera, whereas I don't care. I'm okay acknowledging that
i may not have the best camera on my phone.
I'm willing to acknowledge that overall it's a great overall package.
I don't need it to have the best of anything
in particular. It's just as long as everything is great

(01:10:08):
and can fit my needs, that's fine. But I'm very
much I think still on iPhone, not because of the hardware,
but simply because of the software. You know, the iOS
works well with mac os and my ecosystem, and I
have the Apple Wallet app that's gonna be hard to
leave behind if I switched to Pixel, iCloud, keychain, stuff

(01:10:29):
like that. It's not like I have to buy the
iPhone because I think it has the best camera or
the best battery life. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure I
could probably get better on Android, but it's the software
keeping me. There is some talk about the iPad many seven. Yeah,
I might have to do a video on that. My
short brief recap is it's not going to be a
major refresh. I think a lot of people want a

(01:10:51):
new iPad many seven purely because they want one hundred
and twenty hurts, and it's not gonna happen. I'm sorry.
That would get me excited if they brought promotion to
iPad many seven, but I don't think it's going to
I'm so glad the new pixels use ultrasonic fingerprint scanners
instead of the optical one. It is so much faster.
I know. I've seen the footage of it. It's it's
insanely fast. Honestly, it makes me jealous. There's sometimes where

(01:11:13):
face ID doesn't catch my face just right, and I
think that, I'm sorry to say it, I probably won't
do a video on this, so I might as well
say it now. I think Apple over engineered face on lock.
It's more complicated than it needs to be. They're doing
this whole dot projector true depth camera system that does
with this three D mapping of your face. And from

(01:11:35):
my experience with using face on lock on Android phones,
it's really not that complicated. You can do face on
lock with a single camera. There's an algorithm that can
make it detect if you're using a photograph. Some people
are like, no, it has to be a three D
you know, dot projector in order for it to be accurate. Otherwise,
you could just print out a picture of someone's face

(01:11:55):
and hold it up, and it's like, first of all,
how often is that happening? How often are people printing
out photos of your face to get in your phone?
Second of all, there are algorithms for you know, face
onlock that uses just a two D regular camera that
can detect if it's a flat image versus an actual
human face. They figured that out years ago. And I've

(01:12:17):
used face on lock on Android phones that don't have
true depth camera systems, that don't have dot projectors or
infrared blasters, and you can't spoof it with a photograph,
you can't spoof it with a face and it still works.
And they have a much much smaller cutout at the
top of the display because of that because there's only,
you know, one camera that can get the job done.
So I think Apple went a little overkill with it.

(01:12:40):
They they were like, oh, no, it has to be
this fancy of a face onlock in order for it
to be secure, in order for it to work with
banking apps. But I think Pixel proved it either with
the eight or the seven. They got to the point
where the camera is so advanced with the algorithm of
detect it with using face detection that it's actually safe

(01:13:02):
enough to unlock banking apps and unlock passwords, and you
can't spoof it with a photo. They've tried. It doesn't work,
So I think Apple's just sunk cost fallacy. They're like, well,
we spent all this money developing the true AFT camera system,
so we can't get rid of it now, even though
if they really wanted to, they could probably develop and
who knows, they might even do this when they shrink

(01:13:24):
the dynamic island in a few generations. Maybe next year,
but probably the year after next year, they could probably
build face ID into a single camera and just say that, oh,
you need the A nineteen pro neural engine for it
to work. They could use some bs like that I'm
sure they could do it now, they just they just
feel like they have to have it. Remember Google's take

(01:13:47):
on face ID, Drew believe it was the Pixel four. Well,
that wasn't exactly face ID. There was more like the
Soley radar chip that prevented it from being sold in
a bunch of countries and it didn't even work all
that Well, yeah, that was a bad idea. They were
rightfully criticized for that. I'm glad that they departed from
that at least. The problem is that Google requires you
to have the display on or always on display onto

(01:14:07):
unlogvia fingerprint, which kind of defeats the point of the
ultrasonic sensor, which doesn't need the display to be on.
I feel like a lot of people would probably have
a hard time remembering exactly where the fingerprint reader is,
so I kind of understand why they do that. But
I know a lot of people that just want to
check the lock screen really quick, that don't necessarily want
to unlock the phone immediately, so I could kind of

(01:14:29):
understand where they do that. Grief Well says you're being
streamed lived into the New York City subway. Whoo, Welcome
to the underworld. The optical fingerprint scanner on my Apro
is totally fine. Yeah. I was happy with the old
fashioned one, but the new one definitely looks much much faster.
I wonder if they can use the Apple AI for

(01:14:50):
a better algorithm for face ID than a limitating some sensor.
I think they could do it without Apple Intelligence. I've
seen Google do it. I know their chips are worse
than Apple. It's not that complicated to tweak the algorithm
to detect a moving face versus a static face. There's

(01:15:11):
other that you know. You just give it enough training data.
I'm sure they could do it now. Personally, I'm positive
there's a way with existing silicon they could build in
face unlock that doesn't require a two depth camera system.
Just by analyzing the motion and the way the face
is structured or moving, they can detect flat surface versus

(01:15:33):
moving moving head. I like iPhone disability coping strategies. Yeah,
I'm glad they build in those kind of features too. Chris,
thank you for forty five months of support. Holy crap,
that's a long time. By the way, you have any
news for the leaked Max pretty much the most exciting
thing going on this year in my opinion is the
M four Mac Mini is finally getting a redesign. It's

(01:15:55):
the first Mac Mini redesign in over a decade. I
think it's been mostly the same shape and size for
a very very long time, and with Apple Silicon, it
definitely deserved a redesign. Aside from that, No, nothing sounds
that interesting. It's just going to be M four chip
on existing hardware that you already know what it looks like.
It's just going to be the same iMac with an

(01:16:16):
M four chip, or the same macbuc pros with an
M four pro and M four max chip, and they'll
probably lean heavily more into Apple Intelligence features. Apparently that's
what the M four is supposed to do. There might
be some things that the Mac can do with the
M four that the iPad can't because of its thermal
limitations or something, but everything Apple Intelligence has been mostly

(01:16:36):
a big disappointment to me. So that's why I'm kind
of like, Yeah, I'm not that pumped for the M
four coming to boring old hardware, But if they bring
it to a Mac Mini and that allows the Mac
Mini to get much much smaller, hopefully much much cheaper,
that would be fun. Too. If they can make like
a five hundred dollars Macmini with an M four chip,

(01:16:57):
that's what I want to check out. I would love
to try out one of those. Aside from that, yeah,
I'm sure the M four's will just have faster chips,
the better performance, YadA, YadA, YadA. Not that excited for
the rest of the Mac line. The face on lock
on one Plus phones were so quick you couldn't even
see the lock screen. I remember that I reviewed someone

(01:17:17):
Plus phones and they had face unlock. It was super fast,
too fast, honestly, and you couldn't really spoof it with
a photograph. It somehow could detect whether it was a
real face or a photo. The light art sensors needed
for face ID in the dark, I guess, But we're
getting so good with low light performance now I would

(01:17:39):
I would rather just be like fingerprint sensor. And you
have to have a front facing camera anyway for selfies
and video calls. So if you want to use face
on lock when it's well lit, use that, and if
it's not well lit, use the fingerprint reader. I would
kind of prefer that setup now because there's many situations
where I can't exactly angle my face perfectly towards the sensors.

(01:18:01):
They're still pretty picky. Didn't they say animog needs the
face ad sensor ray but we found out that it
just needs the camera. Yeah, that's a total lie. I
don't believe that at all. Is the fifteen pro to
sixteen pro on par with six to success in terms
of side grade? No, there's some screen bumps, you know,
anytime the screen gets bigger. I consider that a little

(01:18:22):
bit more of a noticeable refresh. Six to sixcess was
same exact size and dimensions. The pros are supposed to
be getting bigger, and they're also getting a capture button
that's pretty noticeably different. I really hope something that could
persuade me to stay on iOS is if they do
some kind of cooling system. Someone earlier was asking who

(01:18:46):
was it? Was it Martinville. I can't really add much
to air. Oh here it is. What's your pet peeve
with the fifteen proto that is making you contemplate upgrading
or switching to pixel the overheating. It hasn't gotten to
the point yet where it's like stopping me from recording videos,

(01:19:07):
but there are times where I'm using my phone a
lot and it's getting hot and the display is dimming,
and I'm like, yeah, having a vapor chamber would be
kind of nice. The camera bump kind of annoys me.
I still am tired, and I really don't like the
idea of buying another phone that has the exact same
camera bump on the back, which I've never really been
a fan of. It's gotten huge. It's comically large, and

(01:19:30):
it causes so much wobbling, even with a case. I
know because I have a case on my phone right
now actually, which is weird, but I'm trying one out.
I'm trying new things, and I actually really like I
don't like any case. I need cases to be functional
and practical, and this case is actually pretty functional, so
I like the case I have now. But the case

(01:19:52):
is not helping with the thermals, I'll say that much.
It feels like it's heating up more now because it
can't breathe or something, and the titanium I don't think
helps with dissipating heat. So there's little things like that.
Not having an easy way to transfer footage onto the
computer using the full speed USBC port. I missed that

(01:20:14):
about the pixel It was much easier to do with that.
But it's not a bad phone, you know, it still
gets the job done. It's a good camera. I like
using it. But I don't get why you say Apple
Intelligence is disappointing. I feel like it's a good implementation
of AI. Feels more of like having an assistant in
your phone rather than an all knowing chat pot. I

(01:20:34):
just haven't seen any use cases for it that are like, oh,
I would use that so far, Like literally every Apple
Intelligence feature is like, yeah, I'm never gonna do that.
Image playgrounds is kind of a joke. It's like, oh,
you can make up random photos that clearly look very
AI generated and send them to your friends. And it's

(01:20:54):
like proofread write a whole email and then have it
rewrited for you, And it's like every time I've tried that,
I'm like, no, I don't like it. That's not how
I would have worded it. I just I don't do
that very much in the first place. And also I
don't find the proofreading features that good in the first place.
Or asking Siri to be like, well, are there any

(01:21:17):
available restaurants after I pick my mom up from the
airport with good reviews, book an appointment and I'm like,
I'm not gonna do that, So I just don't use
digital assistance all that much anyway. But jen Moji is
also very niche I use like the same twenty emojis

(01:21:37):
over and over again. I don't there's already way too
many emojis in general. I don't think I'm going to
make up very many new ones. To me, jen moji
is going to be about as useful as memoji or
slow fees. It's like, yeah, you can do it, but
are you gonna do it? But I definitely prefer the

(01:21:57):
look of the back of the pixel Apri and ninety.
There is more than the back of iPhones. I agree,
I agree, and I'm not. I'm not that pumped yet.
I need to be sold on the capture button. I
need to see exactly how the capture button works, because
I could visualize a scenario in which the iPhone just
feels like it has way too many buttons on it.

(01:22:18):
I feel like the action button gets the job done.
Is like, Okay, you have one button that's remappable that
you can make it do other things if you want.
For me, it's the camera and it's by the volume buttons.
So it's like Okay, it's getting a little bit weird
over there to have two volumes and an action button.
But fine, now we're gonna have two volume buttons, an
action button, a power button, and a capture button. If

(01:22:41):
it gets to the point where I feel like I'm
accidentally clicking it or launching the camera when I don't
mean to, or I have to, you know, feel more
in my pocket, which button is this? Is this the
capture button or is this the action button? If it
gets to that point, I'm like, it might actually be
a deterrent for me. Vapor chamber in the copper Apple
logo for sixteen Pro. I don't care how they do it,

(01:23:02):
whether it's a vapor chamber or not. I just really
hope that they do something to address the heat, because
I feel like my phone gets hot all the time
for no reason. Chris Norton says, I tried using an Android.
I couldn't type on it, so I went back to
the iPhone one. Okay, fair enough. I hope there's more
Android accessibility features in the future. But Chris, really don't

(01:23:25):
need to super chat seriously, thank you, it's way too much.
How's the quality of your normal phone calls? Everyone? Says
mind sucks so outgoing Antena. Something is bad. Been happening
for a long time, over year, I have a thirteen
pro I haven't had that happen. I just tend to
use FaceTime Audio whenever possible, because that does it over.

(01:23:51):
That does it over Internet instead of the stupid dated
phone called tower thing. Anyway, wait until you play Call
of Duty Warzone Mobile New Thank you. I prefer the
look of the pixels too. I like how clean they are.
I would prefer if the power button and volume button
we're on opposite sides, but regardless, I like the fact

(01:24:12):
that pixels still have physical sims because I like having
that option. Apple took away that option but left it
for people overseas, so everybody with the US iPhones get nothing.
We don't get a better battery life. We just get
a piece of plastic and no option to use the
physical sim anyway. I like how clean pixel cameras are,
Like I mean, the design is like you can just

(01:24:33):
volume power, that's it. There's no need for a ring
or switch or dedicated button. I actually like being able
to just double tap the power button to launch the camera.
That's I launched a camera a lot more than I
activate Apple Pay. So anyway, I think I got to
get going here. I'm meeting some people today and I've

(01:24:54):
got a lot of videos to make, so I'm going
to try to make as much stuff as i can
that will drop while I'm gone my trip. But I
appreciate the superchats. Okay, last message here from Raptor Buddy.
He says, I feel like they may introduce solid state
buttons on the sixteen pro. There must be a reason
why in iOS eighteen when you change volume the bezels
move well. I mean, they clearly added that to phones

(01:25:16):
that don't have solid staate buttons. It could just be
a UI thing that feels cool, But yeah, I think
the capture button is rumored to be solid state, but
not the rest of the buttons, which is probably a
good idea because you don't need to reinvent the wheel there.
But I don't know. We gotta let Apple make their case.
Maybe they have some functionality and uses for the capture
button that will be really cool that I just haven't
thought of yet. But as of right now, I don't

(01:25:38):
think I need a capture button, and I would honestly
probably prefer a phone without one, just to keep it
simple and cleaner. Google weren't pushing messages up top. Oh interesting, Well,
I see your messages when you don't super chat them,
but I'll try to read them anytime I see them, Chris,
But thank you again for your guys' support. I'll miss

(01:25:59):
you all and I hope you have an excellent rest
of your day. Take care,