D23 Breakdown (Season 7 Episode 27)

In this episode of Tatooine Sons, we planned to dive into M. Night Shyamalan's "Trap" and its potential connection to the Glass Universe. But with D23 just around the corner, we decided to hold off—and we're glad we did!

Join us as we break down the biggest surprises from Disney's entertainment showcase, including new insights into Avatar 3, Snow White, Tron: Ares, Pixar's latest projects, and the eagerly awaited Star Wars updates.

From the new Skeleton Crew trailer to the exciting developments in the Marvel Universe, we’re covering it all. Tune in for our take on what D23 had to offer, and why it matters to pop culture fans like you.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Tattooing Sons, a pop culture podcast, the only
fan podcast to name a cannon Star Wars creature and
to be endorsed by the writer director of The Last Jedi,
Ryan Johnson. We intended on talking about m night Shalan's trap.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is not going to go the way you think.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
And how we believe it's actually a part of the glass.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
No, we don't believe it. We know it.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
We know it's not confirmed though, don't get cocky. But
after we started thinking about, you know, what might be
coming in d twenty three, we decided to wait and
record until after the big Disney Entertainment showcase. A great choice.
We're sure glad we did. Let's talk about it. This
is Tattooing Sons.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
True. Paul was the name of the pork on the
Millennium Falcon Forces strong in my family. What do you
think his name is? That's a big moment. I am
a Jedi like my father before me. Maybe Urbis.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Do I'll do not it reas no tri.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Turbis Pablo. If you're listening to this live stream, that
pork's name is now Turbis. It's a good Star Wars name.
We're not done yet. These guys recorded Blosso podcast after

(01:38):
sons and everybody was show surprise. Honestly the stitch thing
stitch because you don't have it mentioned on here, and
that was pretty cool to see. Yeah, I mean all
the other stuff, I'm like, I kind of expect to see.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I didn't expect to see anything for tron Okay Showcase. Yeah,
I didn't know about that, but yeah, this stitch was
pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I like this. I I was kind of surprised we
didn't get more. Maybe it's not a surprise from the
actual showcase, but it's a sort of an after the
showcase thing.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
The only trailer that they.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Showed at the showcase that we actually well, I guess
that's not true. We got snow White, we got.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Fossa I wanta to, we got Winter Lose and Act
I guess we got a lot more trailers.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And we haven't watched Skeleton. I didn't watch a lot
of the Disney ones.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I haven't seen the snow White. I haven't seen that
watch I didn't talk about Yeah. So, welcome to Tattooing
Suns pop Culture Podcast. We believe that pop culture is
a mythology of this generation there's a story, it's written
on our souls and that these myths speak to that story.
And that's why we're talking about the release of the

(02:54):
Skeleton Crew trailer and so much more that has already
come out of D twenty and we.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Didn't even talk about a lot of it even when
we were saying that no, you haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, there's so much. But make sure to subscribe on substack.
You can downloa the app go on there. It's a
great way to keep in touch with us, get more contents,
some great community engagement. We're shooting for one hundred subscribers,
a mission for you, and once we do, mister David

(03:25):
Jesse will be Yeah, we'll be releasing the Bible, the
Christian Mythology.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yes, yes, podcast. Yeah, it's gona be a lot fun.
We're gonna talk about craz stuff. There's a lot of
crazy stuff in the Bible. I think that there's a
book out by one of my favorite Old Testament scholars
called Don't Bore Me with the Bible, and he talks
about all the things that we send tend to ignore
that's in the Bible because we're afraid of it, and
it actually makes the boring, the Bible boring, and he
like talks about all those things in it. It's kind

(03:57):
of interesting. Michael Heizer, he's crazy by the way. He
like speaks at UFO conference, Well he did before he
passed away. He spoke at UFO conferences.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Did he believe in UFOs?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
No, but he would talk about like they they would
invite him to come and talk about what would happen
if you if if extraterrestrials were real, Like how would
that affect Christianity? We're doomed and with it And he's
kind of like, I don't think it affects it at all,
And he would give an explanation as to why. It
was really interesting strange, But we do want to make
sure that we explain why we didn't have an episode
last Friday, which was our normal Star Wars Day episode.

(04:28):
We just got really busy with life and I did
not get a chance to get it edited, and then
our internet went out the morning of when I was
getting ready to edit it, and that created real problems
with a lot of things, and so it just never
got out. And so that episode's going to come out
this coming Friday. That's where we're going to start like
breaking down the story of the Acolyte, and we're going

(04:50):
to walk through it episode by episode on that, and
then this coming Wednesday, we will not have our normal
Wednesday Comic book Day release for a couple of since
One Life Got Crazy. I haven't had a chance to
map out that episode yet. We're going to spend a
lot of time, probably a longer episode than normal today
talking about D twenty three, So recording time got cut
as a result, and frankly, I need to learn more

(05:11):
about Molecule Man before we talk about that episode here.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
So what.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Big But Molecule Man is huge in the multiverse stuff
with it, so much so that a video there's a
theory out there that Molecule my Man might actually be
the anchor being of not just one of the universes,
but all of the universe. So we're going to talk
about anchor beings and comic books and Molecule Man and

(05:38):
all of that. So we're going to do that not
this coming Wednesday, but it'll be part of the next
week's very stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, good tease, good to know.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
All Right, Well, I think that's enough talking about what
we're going to talk about. Let's talk about what we're
talking about. All right, let's just go through all of
the All right, let's get to work big announcements for
for Disney. Yeah, it's just that Disney branded stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, and let's sake, it's clear these are the big announcements.
These are not all of the announcements because there were
so many. Yeah, we're not covering even all of them.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Conversation, So, uh, we need to try to get into
D twenty three or something.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Sometimes, when I got done with watching what I watched
this morning before, you know, when I was mapping out
this episode and getting it all together, I text Mom
and I'm like, we've really got to go to D
twenty three in two years.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
She's like, what is it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm like, it's a weekend celebration about Disney movies, Pixar movies,
Marvel and Parked, Star Wars, and Disney parks. She's like,
coming out, that sounds cool.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, So it's literally just we need to make a
few day long celebration of that kind of perfect for us.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, it's like Star Wars celebration but for more and Mom.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, and we got that show for pretty well, so
don't get technical with me. We definitely this was and
the show for this was the arena of Across the Street.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
So yeah, So first big announcement Avatar three. We kind
of knew that was coming out. That didn't like four
million more movies are comment. Yeah, but we've got a
little bit more detail on it. Not much, but we
know that the title is Avatar Fire and Ash, which
is funny because everybody was making the joke he went

(07:25):
from air to water. He's doing fire. Is the fourth
movie gonna be Earth? Now? Like, are we doing all
the four they come to Earth? That'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
That would be a cool transition to this.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Following Avatar, Last Airbender kind of stuff right here. Yeah,
it's kind of ironic.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
But one of the comments, a couple of comments that
James Cameron said is the characters are so live and
it feels so real.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's also got very high emotional stakes, more than ever before.
We're going into really challenging territory for all the characters
you know in Love the new film is not you expect,
but definitely what you want.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
They release what you want. It's what you deserve.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
It's not what the city means, it's it's what it deserves, right, now, no,
it's not what it deserves. That's what it means right now.
That's that's that's where's that from? Dark Knight?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Dark Knight?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. They released some like well they
ain't released, but there's some character designs for like the
new avatars. They look look wild and cool.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
But this is pretty much the vibe with Avatar. Like
you'll hear about it and you're like, the movies work good,
and you're like, I don't know if i'll see the
next one.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
But then you hear about and you're like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I'm do.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Get to see the trailers in imatch, We're going to
be like, yeah, we'll see this, especially if it's IMAX
three D.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah. That's pretty much the the way the Avatar movies go.
I like, I forget about them, and then I hear
about a new one and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll
see that, and then you see it and you're like,
it was good.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I think it's interesting that we don't. I don't know
if you guys realize this, but but they fill and
Avatar three, while they like.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
With Avatar two, really the.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Small right and camera says he specifically wanted to avoid
the stranger things effect that all the kids grow up
in the years between filming and it's like not weird,
it's not believable as a result of that's fair.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
So yeah, I think next would be snow White and watched.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I don't know, they raised it kind of just slip
my mind. It's just I'm not not excited for it.
I'll see it.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
But do you remember how like much controversial it was
around those leaked supposed leaked images which were real, which
were fakes. Yeah, they were really good fakes. Dwarfs looked
good and they look like the Dwarfs.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think they're like c G I right, yeah, yeah,
so I mean, yeah, I'm sure it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Be does an amazing you know, looks like snow White.
I think Gal Gadot was surprisingly believable in what I
saw with her as the evil Queen. It feels like
it's going to be a fun story. Yeah. I think
that we're far enough removed from when okay, back the
ok from when they released snow White, we're dealing with
like seventy years since, yeah, pretty much eighty years or something. Yeah,

(10:16):
that you can have a live action version of this
and it's going to feel different than live action Mawana,
Like four months after the original Majana came out. It's
not really that, but it feels like it feels way
too recent. Yeah, and they did the same. I mean
even with Lion King, it felt like it was like,
why are we doing this? Beauty and the Beast, whatever,

(10:37):
the Little Mermaid.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's like, these are these are stories that were still like, yeah,
feel made sense.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I feel the book. I think book that makes sense.
Like yeah, it's just I've never been a big snow
White fan.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Like original version. While it was revolutionary when it was released.
It won like Best Picture at the Oscars, and it
was like it launched. I mean, Disney exists because as
we know it today as a result of what happens
with snow White. I do think that that's important to
understand about that original movie. It's not a great movie.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's hard to watch for our culture today with it.
I did when you watch the trailer. You guys haven't
watched it obviously, but when you watch the trailer, I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
They just threw in seven dwarfs mind train from from
Walt seriously into this. There's like they are totally. There's
a moment you're like, this is the rollercoaster from Walter Magic.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
That's funny. So that was next big one would be
the Mufasa trailer. Yeah, I did watch this trailer. Yeah,
we all did. I think we've all all seen about
this point, Nate, I want to get your thoughts first.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I think it looks really good. I'm excited about it.
I think it'll it'll add more to the story without
feeling force, if that makes us any sense. It's just
gonna add more. And it's cool that it's the story
being told to Simba's son.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Which then answers the question about how Timon and Boomber
in this right.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
They'll insert themselves into the old story at some point
because they want to be part of the story. It
seems like a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's like Lion King one and a half.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, I'm sure that they're going to bring in some
of that if this is probably going to be Lion
King one and a half for the live Actually, I
don't think so.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I think it's going to be mostly set before it is.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
But I think we're gonna see a lot about of course,
the relationship between Taka and Mufasa and how he becomes
Scarcar and so against which just feels like Transformers with
Megatron and Optimists. Yeah, but I mean it does make
sense they were brothers, and it seems like Mufasa has

(12:45):
love for Scar, so explaining even.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
The Lion King, he's always kind of hoping Scar is
going to be like trying to keep Scar within.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
The family, right, So there's something there, and it makes
sense as to why Scar was so felt like cheated
out of the king because the Scar was actually bloodlined
and Mufasa was adopted. So it seems like it's gonna
be really interesting and I'm excited for it, more excited
than you were before. Yes, I think this trailer helped.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
With the Yeah, I think it's it's gonna have an
interesting story with this because now we understand more of
what's happening with Scar, and I think it's an interesting
development to know that Scar is the one who kind
of brought Mufasa in and now Mufasa outgrew Scar in

(13:32):
a way, over overpowered Scar and took the throne. So
I think that's it adds to the the Lion King,
which is what you want from the prequel you wanted
to add to the story more.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, and then this one was a bit of a surprise.
We mentioned that thought it was coming, I mean, yeah,
but I also forgot that it existed. Yeah, and that's
Tron aries. So a few things we haven't gotten. The
trailer for it.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
We saw part of a leak of it, and I
saw like most of the trailer, but then the dude
that recorded it didn't even finish.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
The recording because somebody from security.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
It looked like, yeah, sure, so that that was that
was rough. But from the parts I saw of the trailer,
it looks interesting. Jared Leto did when he was introducing it, said,
it looks a little bit rough. I can see that. Oh,
it looks like the guy itself has finished very much.
Just because they wanted a trailer to get out for
d twenty three. It doesn't look like they finished. I

(14:31):
just worry about release it publicly. Yeah, And Jared Leto
said that they're not done with it yet, of course,
because CGI is kind of the thing for Tron. Yeah,
so it makes sense, and it looks like they're they're
working on it still. I mean, for what we got
in the trailer, it still looked great. I mean looks
like on the quality of some Marvel movies, if not
better already. And it looks like they're working on that hard.

(14:52):
So it isn't that hard, but like it looks good.
It looks good on par with The Acolyte or above
as far as p.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
A little bit about. Yeah, we got a few some
pictures linked and some more details. Jeff Bridges is coming
back as Kevin Flynn.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Did you watch like the I watched it, Yeah, like
the presentation thing. It's nice to see him. He looks
at spacey. I think he's always been a bit spacey,
like he is the big Lebowski. He is. He's always crazy,
but nice to see him back. It makes sense that
he's coming back as Flynn, and it also doesn't make
sense because of how he didn't really die. We just

(15:31):
didn't see him die. But how does he become this
weird purple greated like godlike figure. You already was this
godlike figure. I don't know, it's weird. Kevin Flynn has
to be in a Tron movie, though. You can't have
a movie without Kevin Flynn.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
So the animation panels today, right, the.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Marvel animation panel, so maybe they have another animation panel.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Maybe when we get a Tron Uprising, might.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Be an animation panel. I need to I need to
look at what it is.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I would hope.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But if they have other animation that God, we need
a Trot up Prising season two because in a movie
something to kind of wrap that story up. Anyway, But
Evan Peters will be coming back.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
The Quicksilver from the X Menu.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yes, yes, he'll be playing Julian Dillinger, descendant of Ed Dillinger.
I think who Dillinger is the main I think he
was the CEO or something, and then he's in the Gride.
He comes in GD So this is a this is
a quote saying, you know, the name Dilger doesn't mean great.

(16:40):
You know, the name Dilger doesn't mean great things for
those on the grid. Dollinger is giving a speech about
how we are looking for life in the stars, but
that we should have been looking inside inside the grid.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
That is.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I feel like we kind of have heard that at
some point. I think they mentioned that in the Tron
Legacy a little bit, so that'll be an interesting thing.
We've got Greta Lee as Eve Kim, who's just a
human character programmer.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
She seemed like she wanted to emphasize that she's not
a program's yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
She's human.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Who's Greta Lee again?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
The name she's been I think I have a couple
of things. I know if she's been in, but can't
name him off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
And then of course we've got Jared Leto as aries
let her revealed that his character is the Master Control
program of the Dillinger Grid. The previous Master Control program
was the nearly omnipotent digital villain of the first Tron film.
So I guess it's I guess the Dillinger Grid is

(17:42):
different from the Flynn Grid.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Maybe I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I don't. I haven't seen the first ever. It's it's exciting.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
The ride's great, Tron Legacy is great, Tron Uprising is great,
the first Tron's fund But that just could because I
didn't grow up with it. But it does feel like
they're kind of skipping over the fact that Tron Legacy
even existed. Yeah, it feels like they're kind of trying
to forget it, don't And again, yeah, I hope they don't,
because it's a big deal. But then I think about,
you know, how they brought in Sam Flynn back for

(18:14):
the Tron rides and used that to explain some of
the stuff there in the descriptions. So it doesn't seem
like they're trying to forget about it too much. It's
just maybe they're saving some of it for later. Maybe
Sam Flynn's gonna come up. I hope that Sam Flynn
comes up to help with this because he was the
first person to bring a program into the real world,
and that's kind of the whole aspect of this movie,

(18:35):
is the Grid coming into real life. So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
What do you think, Nate about the who's doing the music?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Nine Inch Nails as a heavy metal band doing the music?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I mean, you had.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Music central to each of these things.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
It is, and you had Daft Punk do an amazing
job with Tron Legacy, and they even mentioned how it's
hard to follow Daft Punk's score it is, but doing
something so opposite of that and bring it into kind
of this darker, grittier version of Tron that we're getting.
It's it is darker. I mean, it just looks like
it from the trailer.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
What my understanding is they're bringing the Grid into the
real world.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
They are I mean you in the trailer, you saw
some light cycles and light rails in the real world's crazy,
It's it's pretty cool. And I mean you did see
the Pixels. Yeah, it is like Pixels. But then you
saw Jared Leto and you're like, oh, yeah, that's right,
Morbius existed, and you kind of get a little worried
there for a second. There's one shot where he's like

(19:31):
looking at at a helicopter that I saw, and I'm like,
they did they take this shot from Warbius? Because I
got so concerned. It's not a knack a hit against
Jared Leto. He seems really excited for this movie, but
he also seemed really excited for Arbus, and we all
know how that went down.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I think, so Jared Leto's really excited about Jared Letto.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, but I kind of I hope it's good. Tron's
Tron's really cool universe and so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, I'm excited for that. And then we got a
few short little Pixar announcements.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
They were pretty significant.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well it's a long time.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
It's a long segment, and I was like, can we
move along? First?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Up is win or lose? We kind of I think
we had heard that this was coming out before, but
we got a trailer for it. And this is the
first Pixar series. Thirty five years they've been making movies
and they've done this is their first series on Disney Plus.
It follows a middle school softball team in the week
leading up to their championship game, and each episode is

(20:35):
told from the perspective of a different character.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It should be fun.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Watch the Have you seen the trailer, Dad, I have?
What do you think? It was? Fine?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, it looks a little weird. I can't tell, like
what the vibe they're going for with it is.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, it's not gonna change each episode.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was more excited after watching the trailer when I
read that description where it said that each episode is
told in the perspective of a different character, because I
like that. I was hoping that's where they were going
to go with the Black White Stuff, and they didn't,
and so I liked. I like that idea. The hoodwinked
like approach, yeah, towards it and how the different perspectives

(21:13):
help you see the story differently.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
So I'm excited about that night. Yeah, I think it
looks fun. I think I'll watch it. It's Fixtur series
they've only rarely missed, so it should be fun.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I'm a little nervous about the style they're going for.
It feels kind of too similar to was it Turning Red,
which I just wasn't a fan of even I didn't
even watch the movie Turning Red? Pixar it was it was.
I mean, I get that, but I mean that could
just be me and the fact that I'm also twenty
three and these things aren't being made for my demographic anymore.

(21:46):
You have to actually have that kind of perspective when
you watch it. I do, I do, and it's sad,
don't not everything's made for me anymore? So I I
you know, I take it with a grain of salt. Personally,
it's a little worries over me. But the show looks fun,
it looks cute. It might be pretty good.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Next.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
We hadn't known about this so for a while. Did
we give a trailer for this?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I don't know if we got a trailer. I didn't
see anybody leak one, and we might have gotten one,
but it might have got important enough.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Elio, Ilio.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
This was supposed to come out I think like last
Christmas interesting, and it's been delayed consistently just because the
writers strike, actors strike, everything that to come out, and
they wanted to spend more time on it because they
were churning out a couple movies really close back to
back and they wanted to take more time on it,
which is fair.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, but the story follows a boy named Leo Ilio
will go with that, who finds himself inadvertently beamed up
to an interplanetary organization where he's chosen to become Earth's
ambassador to other galaxies. Sounds cool. It could be a
fun little Pixar movie, you know, an interesting little story.

(22:54):
As long as it makes me cry, it's a good
Pixar movie. Most Pixar movies are very simple concepts.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Not the next one, Well.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I said most of them are. Most of them are
very simple concepts. And then it's how they executed their
news at work.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, like, what if toys came to life?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
What if?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
What if what toys had feelings? What if monsters had feelings?
What if feelings had feelings? What if souls had feelings?
What a rat controlled sad feelings? What if an old
man had feelings?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
This is true?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
This is this is basically Fixar. Right, Yeah, it's a
bit different, but it could work.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
They did talk more about Toy Story five.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
It is oh yeah, okay. I wasn't excited for Toy
Story five. I mean, if you know us, we didn't
like Toy Story four, that's fine. But then I heard
the tag not my toy Story. Well, of course, I mean,
very glad it's not your toy story because probably, But
then I heard the director confirmed at this event. It's

(23:52):
Andrew Stanton, who did Wally and Find an Emo and
Life and Finding Dory, which I wasn't bad. But he
has had a good track record with Pickstars. He's been
a producer and writer for pretty much every Pixar movie
he's been involved somehow, but for directing, he's only done
those and those. That's a really good track record, And

(24:12):
the concept of it is interesting. It's you know, what
if toys had to deal with what? Yeah, what if
toys had to deal with kids wanting to play with
electronics more than toys in the modern age?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Which is fair, it's a legitimate I mean, that's a
legitimate thing. But I'm not entirely sure how you're going
to fill up an entire movie with that, I mean
I could see that being like a little short or
something that's going to be a war. It's going to
be a war between the real toys. So are iPad's
gonna have healings.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
iPads and and gaming guys and stuff and all of that.
I do think it's an interesting concept because it's so funny.
Everybody talks about Star Wars is dead because nobody buys
the toys anymore. No, nobody buys the toys anymore, because
nobody buys toys right right anymore.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Except like adults who collect things right like you. If
you look at Lego, they have transitioned a lot of
their set to this collectors series and they got me.
I got this like they got me because they changed
the box art to like black and clean. I'm like, oh,
it's fancy now. And so it is weird how that market,

(25:23):
that whole culture is completely shifting now because of things. Yeah,
very interesting discussion. Yeah, and then this next one was announced.
We hadn't heard of. This is wild. This is another
Pixar one. It's called Hoppers.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's a body swap story starring John Hamm. I don't
know who that is.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
A dude from baby driver. Oh the main guy, bad guy, well,
the main bad guy his wife, his girl was killed advertising.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh the guy who you think is okay? Gotcha John
hamm Bobby wyn and Ham and uh hyper Curda. I
don't know who I don't know. The story follows a
young girl, Mabel, hopefully not Mabel from.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
No it's not, but I feel like she would do this.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
My grandma she would.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
She would, really you know that.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I didn't know that my grandma Jesse.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
No. Did she own a pet pig named Wattles.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I don't believe so, because well we ruled that one out.
So this okay, okay? Where was that? The story follows
a young girl named Mabel who can transfer her mind
into a robot beaver, with the goal of going undercover
in the animal kingdoms. It's so wild, I'm willing to
give it a s If robots had feelings, what beaver's

(26:41):
head feelings like this, I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
They saw the zomb Beaver movie that came out like
ten years ago, and we're like.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
How do we make that into a Disney movie?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Like how do we make this.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
For They're taking Winny the Pooh and making the mouths
and making them into horror movie. Yeah, not Disney, but
other people are.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I mean, okay, I'm willing to give it a shot
with that either. If they're willing to go to that
such a weird route with it, they they gotta have
some sort of confidence in the story. So we'll see.
And then the last, but not least, Incredibles three was announced.
We didn't get any info on it. No, we we
just know it's coming. Okay, okay, did.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
You guys know that Incredibles Too before Inside Out was
the Inside Out Too was the number one animated movie
of all time?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was huge too.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
It was huge.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
It just it wasn't fantastic. I don't think it wasn't
bad as we make it. I watched it again.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's funny, you guys. You say it wasn't incredible as
a joke, but I hear the joke when he says
it wasn't fantastic because it feels like I ted to
be Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Four are Yeah, And it's ironic with Michael Jaquino doing
the score for us, but.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You doing the score for Fantastic four two.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, Oh, very nice.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
And we'll talk about it. And I watched incredible, Sue
lit but a little while ago, and it wasn't as
bad as I remembered. No, it's fun. It's not as
great as the first one, but you cannot reach the
highs of that first one. That first one caught Lightning
in a bottle. It's crazy good. But the second one
isn't bad. And I think this this third one, if
we have the kids as adults now, it could be good.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Just the second movie just doesn't have the charm and
the magic that the first movie has. It follows a
lot of the same well tropes that sequels always do,
you know it Just it doesn't feel like they did
anything special with it. I think, so hopefully they can
break that with Incredibles three. I want to see something different.
And the next there was a bunch of Disney animation

(28:39):
or a couple Disney animation.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
One or two stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
We don't talk about that because we've known and I
don't know Zootobia too.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
And Dwayne Johnson did get out and dance on stage.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh wait, talk about the other Dwayn Johnson movie that
was an a monster jam. Did you hear jam? A
live action?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's live action? Right, Yeah, they're making a monster Jam
movie with Dwayne Johnson. It's like a monster truck movie.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Really, like yep, Monster Jam.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
This isn't Disney, though, this is Disney announced it Disney
owns Monster Jam. Now apparently they do what what? Okay, sure,
why not? As long as we can see Grave Digger,
you know, I'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
The Rock driving the Grave Digger.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
He's gonna drive Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I have a feeling. Yeah. Anyway, back to Disney Animation,
we've got Zutopia too. I think we've known this one's
been coming, but we've got a little more details. Not really,
it's a very basic what you expect. A Brave the
Brave Rabbit cop Judy Hops and her friend the Fox,
Nick Wilde team up again to crack a new case,

(29:44):
the most perilous and intricate of their careers. Wow, if
they could have just given us any less details.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I mean, they're really trying to hide the cameos in
this movie.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
They did announce to Foss.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah he's a villain. I thought he was a good guy.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Oh, I'm pretty sure he's the He looks like a
good guy. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
But this is Gary the Snake played by Khu.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I don't want. I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
You know who that is?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's short round, that's Obi, that's right, or Boris. Yeah. So,
I mean, okay, I wasn't a huge fan of the
first movie to begin with.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
This is again we're dealing with d twenty three. This
is Disney there they are a machine that's bigger than
a studio, and this is all about get this movie
out right before they repurposed Dino Land.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yes, yeah, that's all it is.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
And then they're repurchasing Dinosaur in the Indiana Jones but
which I'm okay with. Yeah, please do I mean, yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Uh and then Frozen three. I didn't see this one coming.
You didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
We had this confirmed a while ago.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't remember hearing it. Yeah, but uh, this, you know,
the director Jennifer Lee said, coming out of Frozen two,
we still have some questions, a lot of questions actually
there now you see why we need two films to
tell this story. Yeah, so they're doing so they talk
about two films, is like Frozen Frozen three, it's going
to be three and four.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
You think three and four because like they released concept
art and it looks like you know, Elsa and on
on horses, which is normal, A weird shadowy figure lurking
behind them, which is normal, you're going to have a villain.
But then they're looking up at this weird like heaven
like kingdom in the sky with two people looking down
at them, wondering if that's their parents. Are they going
to go to another plane of reality? I don't know

(31:34):
what this movie is going to do.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean, Frozen two was better than Frozen.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know, we look at Incredibles too, not capturing the
magic of Incredibles the original movie. Frozen two not only
captured the magic or Frozen, but it's the better of
the two at a completely different level.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yes, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, so I'm to me, of all of those announcements
that we've gone through, it's probably the riskiest.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Frozen three.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I think it's going to do a box office success,
but I think it could diminish the story in the brain.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I agree because it's that such a high right now
with that story. But some people actually disagree with you. Yeah,
come on, it's got a eighties power ballot with rain.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I have never cheered for a Pick Disney animated movie
more than in that moment when they started, and now
I feel like I have to go watch that movie
this afternoon anyway.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
And then we actually got some Disney Broadway announcements and
nothing crazy. Yeah, Frozen, it's coming to Broadway, Broadway, It'll
be coming to Disney Plus in twenty twenty five. We
got an announcement. This one is not on Broadway, right,
this is coming to Broadway, coming to Broadway.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It is Hercules the Heroic Musical, which I.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, I've got the terms. That's my that's my Michael Bolton,
all right. That was That was great. And then I'm
surprised this is already on Broadway. The Greatest Showman.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now can you have this musical without Hugh Jackman playing?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Here's what they're doing. Here's where I'm gonna here's my
my wild prediction. They're gonna move. They're gonna move zach
Efron to the P. T. Barnum role a sequel for
broad No, for broad No, he's gonna play P. T.
Barnum on Broadway?

Speaker 3 (33:20):
You think so?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think they actually, I think that's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I think it formed a number of this at the
at D twenty three, so they may have already cast him.
But they also could have just performed a number. Yeah,
have the cast because they've done that before. So who knows.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Very interesting, So.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
We spent thirty minutes talking about nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Nothing to talk about. Well Disney, yep, there was a
lot of stuff. All the Disney and Pixar announcements were amazing.
But a big question coming into Disney to D twenty
three that thing is that is that is what it
is talked about that Why did they call it twenty
D twenty three?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Do we know that?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I never asked that question till after I've done.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
It twenty three, nineteen twenty three. He was Wasn't that
the first year that Disney like was created?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
It was one hundred years of amazing. Let's go with that.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
It was one hundred years of Disney.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Last year, good calling, Nate, You're smart. There we go
anyway back out Jack. One of the big questions coming
into D twenty three was how they could follow up
everything that happened at San Diego Comic Con. So we
got some Marvel announcements trail.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And they definitely decided to make the big stuff for
Marvel at the at least the mc U like films
and TV stuff happened at well films. Yeah, happened at Sandy.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, this is getting worse all the time. We got
a trailer for iron Heart. Now, Sam as the resident
iron Man fan thoughts, I want to go home and
rethink my life. I'm not. At least we've got a
suit that looks like an Ironman suit, finally, because what
she got in wa con If Forever was not an

(35:05):
Ironman suit. I still just cannot care for this character
in any way yet, largely because I still don't have
any clue what her motivation is other than I want
an Ironman suit, which is not a very compelling motivation.

(35:25):
So hopefully they can fix that in this show.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I think I think that character was the weakest part
of a Condif Forever.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
It felt very FORCEDB.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, so we'll see. I'm trying not to already make
my mind up before it comes out, so we'll see.
I do like the suit at least looks like a
proper Ironman suit, so I'll give her that now. Yes,
and now we're talking Nate Daredevil Born Again trailer just go.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Up, and it was so good and it was so disappointing.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Uh, sitting there whoa whoaoaoa.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
For an hour I was sitting there for two hours,
like refreshing, like discussing film and IGN and all of those,
waiting for the waiting for that trailer to drop. And
then I see it's Daredevil Born again time and I
got so excited. I stopped what I was doing. I
was just refreshing and refreshing and refreshing, and nothing came up.

(36:27):
And I was so frustrated. I'm like, how do you
not really all we wanted from That's all we wanted
and skeleton grew, that's true, But and I was I
was like scouring for fifteen minutes. After the Daredevil stuff,
they moved on to Agatha, and like, I was still
looking for a dared old trailer. And then somebody dropped

(36:47):
a view. They were like in the phone recording, in
the phone recording in the very back of the arena.
But I watched it and I was like, oh, this
looks good. And I said it to Sam and he
was like, yeah, that looks really good. I mean it
is Daredevil season four.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Then I woke up this morning, way way early. I
see them in our chat set, you know, so that
he sent it and all this. I go to watch
it and.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
The video had been deleted, which it's actually the it
looks like it's the only trailer that Disney's really trying
to crack down on. They That's what I'm thinking, but better,
I mean, judging by some of the interactions we got
in this trailer with how Frank reacted to Matt, I'm
wondering if either Frank or Matt were blipped. I could

(37:33):
see it. I could see Matt being blipped in him
coming back, and Frank not.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
No, I don't think he can because of Hawkeye. What
we see in actually Echo wasn't that during the blip.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Echo was after the blip.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
No, but what happens when we see Daredevil that was
lighting in that kind of stuff. We got Ronan level
stuff happening there at the same time.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I can't remember exactly when that was, so it makes
sense Frank he was blipped.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I don't think it could be Frank.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
It could be I could see that because he uh,
he will probably just use Matt to help him get
a foot back a foot hold.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, in the New World after being gone for that long,
which is great, And I also feel like I need
to finish the Punisher series. I feel like it'll be
important to this because Karen Page is also a part
of this, which is nice to see Karen and Foggy back.
Also Foggy with the beard, which that's just a little
nod to the comic Foggy because pretty much comic Faby
always has a beard. So it was nice to see that.
And it looks great. Fight scenes look great.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Having Vincent Dinaprio Kingpin looks great.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Also, why are Matt and Kingpin teaming up? Like, what's
the story there? Well, we've known that that that that
diner scene was filmed. We know it's like the leak
of the photos of happened the day they filmed it. Yeah,
that's been and there was always this, like a year ago,
what was going on? Yeah in that in that diner scene,

(38:47):
what was going on? But now to kind of find
out that they're teaming up to against a larger threat.
I mean, what could be bigger for Matt to team
up with Kingpin? What's big enough of a red? And
I know we saw Muse in.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
This cool I don't understand who music.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
He's uh, he's the the graffiti guy that.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Something to brutally mutilate his victims or something really violent.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
He like is at one point, like gets powers and
like his heart is consistently exposed. He's creepy. He's really creepy.
He's a creepy villain and it's very evil. So it's
nice to see him in this. In this, we did
kind of got ideas that we were getting him in
this show.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
So yeah, I feel like you need really really bad
evil villains for Dared You do. You just gotta have
the really bad ones you do.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
And then Bull's Eye was cool. We just got a
couple of glimpses, but that was cool. White Tiger being introduced,
it's kind of like an anti hero, the Vigilante. Could
very well see them introducing him in this to be
able to introduce him into the Thunderbolts later on. Kamala
Khan's father showing up in this trailer a couple of

(39:57):
times was crazy a client from Matt the guy who
asked him what kind of lawyer are you? At the
end of the trailer, that was Kamal Khon's father, which
feels weird to kind of have them crossing that stuff over.
It kind of makes sense though, as becomes a superhero
lawyer a while like Jennifer Walters does for she Hulk.
I feel like he would be more of a broader
type of lawyer though, because he's just he's a better lawyer.

(40:21):
Introducing the other if I know enough correctly, I need
to read the run before Chips at Darsky to really
get a good read on it. But introducing the other
attorney that Matt eventually falls in love with, that like
he genuinely gives up being Daredevil to live.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Life with her.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Introducing her in this trailer was crazy. We just got
a couple glimpses of her, but he really does seem
like they're going that direction with them having a very
deep relationship, which is good after all the stuff that
happened with Electra back in season two and Defenders. It's
nice to see him having that. It's interesting to see
how that's going to work out. If they go the
route where she dies and Matt kind of loses his

(40:58):
mind again, or if they just break up and he
finds a new meaning as Dare Devil, or wherever they
go with that will be interesting. We did get confirmed
their filming season two in a couple of weeks announced, which,
like not even Loki was confirmed to have a season
two before the first season was done. This is this
is the first time I think we've gotten an MCU

(41:19):
live action or even confirmation that the confirmation that we're
getting a second season. So they must be really confident
in this show.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Which is really exciting because they were so unconfident in
this show originally. They had to I mean, they've scrapped
it and retooled it, brought in all new writers, all
new directors, and the original cast and the original cast, right,
and they they're very excited.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
They are, and as they should be. And I mean,
let's just be honest here. It looks as dark and
gritty as the Netflix show we got, which is kind
of what we were hoping for. I didn't want him
to dilute it for Disney.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Plus, I think I think the success of Deadpool is
helping fund that, Yeah, because now it's established that you
don't have to always tone things down just because it's
associated with Disney. In this case, Yeah, they found a

(42:16):
way to work with it. And I think that with
the success of those things, they're confident again in this
Daredevil show. Another announcement, I think we got a new
trailer for it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen
the first trailer Agatha all along.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
We never really talked about seeing the first trailer on
that but I wasn't excited about this movie, and I
still haven't watched a second trailer.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
No, and I don't even know if I will.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I will, I'll watch it. From the little clips that
I was seeing from different things, I got the impression
that this one feels that this trailer makes it feel
more like a dark police detective type story which they.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Come out and perform a musical number from the show
at D twenty three, and it just feels like they're
really writing off of a slightly viral moment from WandaVision,
and I don't think a show can really survive off
of that. I don't know many people that really wanted
an Agatha show, and I'm sure that there are people
that are excited, and that's great, but.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Well, I do think that it's always telling when you
see the way that they're marketing things and talking about things,
and this is the next Marvel thing that's going to
be coming out, and they're talking about it, but they
it feels like they're talking about it because they have
no choice but to talk about it, And that's sort
of the same thing that you see with like movie
coming out at this weekend, Borderlands, which was like, oh crap,

(43:36):
we have this movie we have to release and we're
going to but we're going to create one trailer.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
It's not going to be very good. We're not going
to promote it anywhere. I kind of want to see
it now. I really want to see how bad it is.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
What I mean when you have Grace Randolph. Literally we're
releasing a positive Rotten Tomatoes review because Randolph is just
that desperate for attention. She's the first person to have
released critics to have released a positive review on Rotten Tomatoes,
which changed it from zero percent to three percent. That's

(44:08):
a pretty bad movie. I don't think that Agatha is
going to be like that. I just don't. I think
it's going to be mid which is going to be
like hopefully the last of the Marvel stuff that fell
into that category before they realized they better.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Make some changes. I think that this is just caught
up still from that.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah. I think it's just feeling the effects from that,
and that's fine. I mean, not excited for it, but
all I might watch it.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
It just it really depends on what the trailer and
the reactions.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, then we got a new trailer for Captain America
Brave New World.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
It was more of the same trailer from San Diego
Comic Con, just reshown.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Maybe, yeah, but it was new to us. You know,
we haven't seen it before. I think it looks good.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I didn't watch it. Did I send it to you guys?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, you said to us.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
It didn't really add a ton to like the knowledge
that we we we got to see Hulk, which was cool.
The name of that Israeli superhero.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
She's not going to be an Israeli superhero, okay, but
her name in the comics is Sobra. Okay. Is the
Hebrew word for like a native.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Sobra, like the brand of Hummus.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Right, that's a that's an Israeli. That's an Israeli native,
is what that is? When so when you're born in Israel,
you're considering you're called a Sabra, and she's a Israeli
superhero in the comics. But because of all the controversy
about what's happening right now, and they're going to walk
that back, she's actually more of it. She's like a widow.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
She it seems like that, and she's a Widow's really
important in this trailer. She was in a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
She was so is it a screenshot like a screen.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
It's reporting and the audio it's like delayed, So it's
pretty not good. But it also it just looks good.
I mean, the movie looks fun. It's a Captain America movie,
and that's a good thing. It looks it looks like
America movies.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So her soldier vibes.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Did the Red Hulk? It looks great. All I can
see is Han solo though as a Hulk. But you know,
it's okay, and.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
It changed up enough to not be super bad.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
It's cool that.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
It was weird to see Harrison Ford's face on a
Red Hulk.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, and then we got a trailer or sort of
tiler trailer. I think it's a concept video. I think
that they recorded this at the end though. Yeah, I
think that they did that for this and for for
San Diego Comic Con. This is the same thing they
showed a comic It is with it, but the fantastic
for I think it's a concept video. I wanted.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I think they wanted everybody involved in the production of
this to understand the vibe of what they were going for,
and so they they worked with the cast and the
crew to shoot this so that they could send this
to all of the crew, all of the cast, all
of the different people in and get a good feel
for what they were going for with it. And I

(47:04):
liked it. What did you guys think about it?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I thought it was great. It's a fun, fun vibe
to it. It really does feel unique enough. I Mean,
the problem we've been getting with Marvel movies for the
past few years is that people have started to gather
a Marvel formula, like every movie just feels the same.
But this feels so different and it looks good.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
It gives me, like, the best way I can describe
it is it feels like Tomorrowland at Disney.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I mean it's that sixties retro futuristic vibe, so of
course it's gonna feel like that.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
But that's that's the Fantastic four.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
You yes, and I love that. You've got the flying
you know, retro cars, You've got the weird astro spaceships
that look nothing like the rocket ships we use today,
but just like it was pulled out of an old
side of high movie. I'm I'm excited for it. I
think it's gonna be really, really good.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
What do you think about the relationship stuff, Like they
were talking about like you've got You've got Richard and
you've got Sue and they're kind of are they married
it seems it?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Does it seems that or they're like really really close.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I mean, well, they mentioned like Reid was like family dinner,
so they call it eight pm Sharts. I love it,
like the First family, first Marvel family. They really bring
that in. And Johnny Storm is not called Johnny's Storm,
He's Jonathan Storm. And well doesn't seem like a player
like they a hot head. He doesn't. He seems like timid.
And I'm sure that's going to bring him into being

(48:34):
coming becoming a hot head because he gets his powers
and becoming like reallyty. I know, Well, it's kind of
weird because I feel like they may be bringing in
part of the origins. I do think, because I have
to Matt.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Shackman is the one, he's the director. What did he
do before?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
I have really no idea.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I can't remember right now off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Michael, that's exciting a good theme.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
It's repetitive, but so are all superhero We're all superhero themes,
and it fits the vibe. Also bringing in a choir
singing Fantastic Four behind it, so pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
Loved how they nailed Ben Grimm an aspect of Ben
Grimm's character after it becomes a thing in the trailer,
going to an anonymous dating show after it and then

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being picked. That's that's pretty much Ben.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Grimm because of his personality, Because of his personality, and
then they see him and they completely freak out because
he's this weird thing.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Wanta Vision, Oh, that's it.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Okay, that fits.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
That fits, yeah, because it's that's period piece.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Which I'm all for it because I love WandaVision. I'm
I'm excited about Agatha all all along because I don't
think it follows that. But yeah, but I loved I
loved WandaVision. I was really excited about that with it,
which then leads into what we're going to talk about
whenever we do our comic book episode, because he actually
has said that the that he thinks the anchor of
the Marvel Universe is Wanda.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
It was a cheap move. I thought it was molecule
man want to died or did she don't do that
to me?

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I can't do episode all right?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Well, in the end, yeah, I don't think we got an.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Hour into this and we haven't talked about Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
No, but I think in the end we didn't. I
don't think we really got anything of significance. No, Yeah,
like I said, but you know, that's definitely not the
case for things when it came to discussing Star Wars.

(50:46):
All right, Well, we got a handful of announcements for
Star Wars. First up, Yes, first up was and Or
season two exciting. It didn't get much from that, just
a couple screenshots. We know cran is going to be
in there, very exciting, it was a fun character.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Didn't they mention that.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
This season is going to take place over four years?
I think they mentioned that during this panel that, like.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, I think so you've got from what I understand
is there's twelve episode, yes, three episodes, three episodes per year.
It's going to be four three episode arcs for each year,
which I like with that, which and we're gonna I
think we're gonna have one of those arcs be how
Cassian and k two come together?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Oh yeah, please that kind of stuff?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Give me K two.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Oh yeah, he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Be is gonna reprise? Right?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Oh my gosh?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yes, yeah. So nothing much there, but that's very exciting.
Loved season one so was great. Best Star Wars series
out there. Yeah, it's great story. It's the best cheesy bread, right, Nate,
it's the best. Anyway. We got a trailer teaser something
for the Mandalorian and Grogu. I have questions, what are

(51:55):
your questions? Where's back?

Speaker 3 (52:00):
It was kind of blown up.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Maybe maybe he's kind of it's everything?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
So does it? When does it take place?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Maybe it's like a really common model. Maybe it's like
the Honda Odyssey of No the k Carnival, sorry, the
King Carnival of the Star Wars universe. So you can
just go to the Spaceship Dealershipping and get you a
new one. They had the same paint job as season two.
Well he lights it in that color. It's a standard
base option. When does this take place? And if it

(52:30):
takes place before season three? Why do we care?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Why are we making such a big deal by putting
this in theaters when we already know what happens afterwards?
Do they forget that they blew up the razor cress.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
It's going to be a yes and movie.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Do you think it's just a selection of missions from
the life of Mandalorian.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I think we're going to see some stuff from their
connection where they were developing that more. They're going to
bring that in there because they want a rooted in
that relationship. But then we're going to get stuff that
happens after season three. I think that's going to be
the get like two parts of it. Like, what do
you mean two different movies? No, it's one movie, one movie.

(53:12):
But like, I think you're going to have some things
that that are going to jump back and forth a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Okay, it feels weird, but I am with all that.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I am excited as much as I understand that some
of the recent stuff that's happened with Star Wars has
been weird. I really do have all the confidence in
the world and Dave Filoni, and of course of course
we do. They know these characters, they know how to
make these stories. Favreau. You don't have the Marvel Cinematic
Universe without Favreau. He understood this. He plays a great

(53:48):
happy Hogan and he does well, he's a parking avenger
adjacent with it. But I when they came out and
they talked about you watch them talking about it. I
watched part of it.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I didn't think I watched the loney I didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
It's good. It looks like they know what they're trying
to do. I don't have I'm going to maintain my Infaloni.
We trust.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
But Dad, I mean, I didn't see any lightsabers or
force in this trailer. It's really Star Wars returning back
to the theater.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
We're going to get it.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
God, I don't know. It doesn't feel like this is
just like an action sci fi movie returning to theaters.
But like Skeleton Crew. We just saw a part of
the forest. We'll talk about that later.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
But oh, I think we saw the first episode. Is
all that's in this trailer.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Oh yeah, I don't know. If it's Star Wars returning
to theaters, I don't know what it could be. It
just seems like a SA like Star Trek. Maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I I.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Do have to be honest though, with this movie. I
love Mando. I cannot get excited for this movie. There's
just I just don't get it. I don't I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
It goes back to the issues we've had with Star
Wars recently, like why yeah, and this takes place after
season three, I get why, But with the razorcrests, I
don't don't understand why right now. It's just that's like
my one issue watch.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
And even putting the Razorcrest aside, this has been and
from this point on, it was a show, a television,
a Disney Plus show. And we've always talked about how
you got to be wary about switching from like using
shows as like prerequisite knowledge for movies and stuff. You

(55:26):
shouldn't necessarily always have to watch the show to get
a great movie it. I don't know how they're gonna
do that with this movie.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I do think you guys are both way overthinking what
we watched. This is not a trailer. They barely have
started filming.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I'm not even talking about I'm just talking about the contents.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Okay, concept, that's one thing, But you're know you're hung
up on Razor Crest. I've moved and all that. I
think there's show this this right here was not a trailer.
This there's a limited amount of content in this that
goes back to the actual movie. There's the Hath stuff,

(56:07):
there's the the you know that. But even that's a flashback.
You guys realize these are Imperials on Hath. You've got
at eighties. We could be seeing Mando's backstory to some extent.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
It was with Grog in han Hath though.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
He had Okay, maybe I'm off on some of the
timing with that, but I don't think. I think we're
seeing flashbacks to their previous story that maybe isn't even
part of this movie.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, I'm excited, of course, I'm excited for Star Wars
back in theaters.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
And when this thing gets shot, we see a real trailer,
then you can start thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Mando has always been good, so I think it was this.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Wolf and cut and the cub from Kisawa is what
we're being told.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, no, I'm sus.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Would have made that. It's just a classic Japanese movie,
but he might have made it, so I think it
was so yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Uh, And then we got a trailer, like an actual
fully released like you can go onto YouTube fund for
Skeleton Crew. I think we kind of immediately after watching
the trailer, kind of described it as the Goonies and
ET in Star Wars. I mean it looks like besides
like you know, effects being better, it looks like it's

(57:19):
ripped straight out of the eighties. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I mean somebody else just commented on some stuff I
put out on Twitter about it, where they're like, this
feels it has a very Stephen Spielberg feel it does
to it, which is Goonies, which is ET, which is
Ambelberg damblin Entertainment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Did Spielberg do Goonies?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I think so. Yeah, And and and Ambling Entertainment was
his production studio, which goes all the way back to
Kathleen Kennedy, which was a part of those movies.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
And I thought she was horrible.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
She was a phenomenal producer. And and you know, we're
not going to get into the Kaptain Kennedy silliness that
people talk about. I I loved, I loved this trailer.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Oh it was great. It was great. It felt just
like I mean to describe it, for me, it felt
like sort of Season one of Stranger Things to me.
And I describe and I use that as a description
because that show resonated with me more than say something
with like Goonies or ET. Because it was.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
ET is what resonates with me. That's what I what
I saw when I was.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
That age, exactly. But Stranger Things is a very similar
feel to those and this trailer felt like it had
a bit of that as well. Maybe not quite as
dark as Stranger Things got, but it has that childlike wonder.
I mean you're seeing suburbia in Star Wars or like
school buses and like major highways in Star Wars. I mean,

(58:51):
it's just it is going to be in a way
that we have not seen before in Star Wars. It's
gonna show that transition from boring Monday everyday life to
an adventure, just.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Like your journey time. This goes back to the original
Star Wars movie type stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, I mean it starts off the trailers like with
a bunch of kids on their space bikes going through
a forest and they did discover some age.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
You're on space bus going to space, right, but I mean,
you know from a space teacher, and that's that's very classic.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
This test is going to determine your future, like way
over the top stuff that doesn't really happen, especially when
you're like nine or however old. They are in this trailer,
but yeah, it does feel like that old classics.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, I thought it was great. It looks like a
lot of fun and it looks like a kind of
return form for Star Wars, which I feel like is
used very negatively most of the time. But it is
just what Star Wars was originally, what it's meant to be,
and it does feel like one of those shows that
parents can watch with their kids when they want to.
I don't feel like Acli was really one of those
you could have easily done that with or and or

(01:00:03):
yeah yea, or it was dark, it was Ahsoka was good,
you know, But this just feels like one that you
really can and I know that when you're talking about
it in the same vein as Stranger Things. That's also
one that I feel like families could have watched, but
it got dark and it got scary. Even that kind
of season first season was bad, but it's overall I

(01:00:24):
could see it being kind of the next version of
Stranger Things, next like resurgence of eighties culture that I
feel like we go through every ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I've heard, you know, jud Law introduced this, Did you
guys watch what he said?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I didn't get to watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Okay, Judela introduced this. He seems genuinely excited about this,
and it didn't feel like it was put on. And
I've heard some other interviews that he's done over the
last month or so where they've interviewed him on The
Tonight Show and stuff like that, that kind of show
where he's been talking about it, and he seems really
really excited about what they've put together, which I love.

(01:01:00):
I do think that there's some interesting takeaways from this
trailer because we know the timeframe that this is set in,
which is Mandalorian era. Yeah, with that, so we're four
or five six years roughly post galactic Civil War. Yet

(01:01:21):
wherever this is, whatever planet they're on, this seems like
a return to normal life setting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Well, it's suburbia, and when you think about suburbia, it's
usually not affected by the going zones of the wars,
you know. I mean, think around World War two, the
rest of the world was in turmoil. Think about American suburbia.
Not a care in the world most of the time.
Maybe you had to cut back on some rations here

(01:01:51):
and there doing rubber drive, but otherwise life went on
all the same for you. I think that's what we're
going to see here, is this corner of the galaxy
see that never really saw the dark side of war.
I think that'll be an.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Interesting of the Empire. Yeah right, it's like not my problem.
It's very similar to that one community in Civil War
in the in the in the movies, in the movies
where they go and they're like, you know, they go
into that dress shop or that clothing shop and everybody's
acting like everything is pretty much normal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I mean this is obviously during the Civil War, and
they walk out and there's like people on the tops
of roofs with sniper rivals and and that kind of stuff.
But I think that that's the experience that this planet,
in this community had during the imperial rule. Now they're
out of it. But I do think it's fun to
see that these kids have continued to latch onto the

(01:02:46):
idea of the Jedi. They what do they find? It's
obviously a spaceship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah that's what we know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
What we know. What the the mcguffin of this is
these kids stumble upon this spaceship, they start messing around
with it, it starts up, they get taken off into
space and that's the way the story begins with it.
But what do they think the spaceship is when they
get there the temple a Jedi temple. What do we
get at the end of this when they're in that
prison and the the key floats and it comes to

(01:03:15):
them and he's like, you're a shit. You know, the
main character of this, I think his name is Whim
says you're a Jedi.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I think all of that is first episode, first two episodes.
I agree stuff they're They're releasing like those two episodes
at the same time on December third. I think that's
the finale or the climax of those two episodes, and
then we get the rest of the adventure, and I
think we're going to have a really fun Star Wars
adventure with a bunch of kids who have been fascinated

(01:03:44):
and imagined and played games where they pretend to be
Jedi and all of this, and then suddenly they get
thrust into a real Jedi story. And I there's and
you talk about goonies, there's a skeleton that's oh my gosh,
that's yeah. One I'd really you know, I mean, this
is the kind of stuff and in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
The Goonies, Like you know, you said that these kids
grew up being excited by the Jedi and stuff. Well,
I mean it's like how kids in our our world
are excited by like pirates and stuff like that. You know,
these ancient myth you know, types archetypes that don't aren't
really around anymore, but you could still imagine that you're
one of them. And then all of a sudden, just
like in Goonies or in this they're thrust upon, they're

(01:04:24):
still around. It's well, they're in the middle of this
thing that they grew up playing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
So it is love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Yeah, it's it's a story that we can all connect to.
And it's that's what Star Wars is. It's about kids.
It's what it should be, or is not necessarily about kids.
This four kids and this I think this show is
going to capture that perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
I was sitting there watching the trailer and afterwards I
tweeted this out. I'm like, I literally was taken back
to nineteen eighty one on my cul de Sac and
Colorado Springs in Suburbia with my next door neighbor Marvin
and the kids down the street, Jamie and Brandy and
Mark and Matt, all of us literally pretending to be
Jedi in my community, in my neighborhood, on bikes, pretending

(01:05:06):
they were speeder bikes in nineteen eighty three when Return
of the Jedi came out and all of these types
of things are happening, and what it would have been like,
Oh my gosh, we stumbled into a field and we
found a hill where there's this door that opens and
it's actually a Jedi spaceship. I mean, I was, I like,
I teared up watching this thing because for me, it

(01:05:26):
feels it feels like Star Wars. And I maybe I know,
I'm Joe. You know, it's Lifesabers and we talk about
that with it, but this this feels like Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
I get where you're coming from with that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I did in so many different ways, you know. It
reminded me and of that quote when we were there
fortieth Anniversary of Star Wars panel at Celebration Orlando, when
we first kind of got into this world to the
level that we're in where George Lucas is sitting there
and he says, it's a film for twelve year olds.
This is what we stand for. You're about to enter

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the real world. You're moving away from your parents, you're
probably scared. You don't know what's going to happen. And
here are the things that you should pay attention to. Friendships, honesty, trust,
doing the right thing, living on the light side, avoiding
the dark side. And here's why I love that quote
and how I felt all of that, every piece of

(01:06:21):
that on this trailer. I'm not turning this into a
bashed Acolyte moment that we don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
That in The Acolyte. No, we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Friendships, honesty, trust, doing the right thing, living on the
light side, avoiding the dark side. None of that in
the Acolyte. None of this moving into a story that's
for kids to help them learn how to navigate this.
We've got a bunch of adults that have failed to

(01:06:52):
understand how to do that, and there's a mess. And
so maybe they decided with the Acolyte to turn it
into Twilight in Star Wars, and that's what that's what
we've got. And Okay, if that's your thing, go for it.
But when I come to Star Wars, I'm looking for
goonies and Star Wars. I'm looking for this kind of
thing more more than that. And this is why I'm

(01:07:13):
excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I agree, yep. You know, after a series of Stars
releases that have been more mature and kind of focused
on moral ambiguities like and or and things like that,
and even our heroes in times moving towards the dark side,
like in the Accolte we mentioned, it's exciting that we're
getting return to what feels like classic Star Wars the

(01:07:36):
way the maker originally intended. All right, I think that's
going to about do it for this very long episode.
But there was a lot to talk. There was a
d twenty three isn't even over yet when I was
going into Toashi station to pick up some power converters.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Know the animation Marvel Animation panel is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
This and the Disney Parks panel yeah tonight, which we're
going to know if we're gonna give me, we're going
to get Indian in Jones Dinosaur revelations. They said they're
revealing a huge thing tonight for Disney Parks that they
haven't talked about, which maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
This is where the fun begins.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
According to some people, a new park over.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
In order we need to combat with Universal. They can't
do another bus rap announcement. They need to pull out
some big guns here. But anyway, yeah, so this is
gonna be a longer episode. We knew that. But you know,
Monday that's our weekly release schedule. If you're not familiar, Monday,
that's this episode, which is what we're excited about week

(01:08:33):
to week. Wednesday is New Comic Book Day.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Usually we're taking a little bit of a break this
week so we can really understand molecule man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah, get reconfused. I'm gonna have to break out my
chemistry notebooks and stuff for this. And then Friday is
our monthly series. This week we're going through the act.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Episode that should have been releasing last week didn't release.
We're releasing this story and it's the story. Good discussion there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
We can actually we know what we talked about on
that one because it's in the past anyway, but also
the future for you. So yeah, it's just like Marvel
timelines and stuff. Anyway, make sure you follow us on substack,
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(01:09:21):
more in depth exploration of themes and things we talked
about on the show, and then of course community engagement.
But is there anything else you'd like to say?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
May Force be with you, May the Force be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
With you all wait, this party is over. I like that,
moy get take you with me.