February 12, 2023 • 21 mins
The team shares their thoughts on Rolling Stone's controversial "Best Rappers" list and Drake getting caught up in the murder trial of XXXTentacion
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This is the FCB Podcast Network.Turn it up the latest celebrity news and
gossip. It's tea time with theRow on the Outlaws radio show. All
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right, y'all, So I havelike so so much tea because you know,
I missed last week and I've justbeen I got a lot, a
lot. But We're gonna start offwith jay Z. I've never spoken to
him, so this is new news. Like I'm usually on particular type of
celebrities, if you may. Butum, so the awards just bypass us
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and they just actually named jay Zthe greatest rapper of all times. Um,
and that is in the top fifty. Um, I believe. I
mean, I don't know how Ifeel about that, truthfully, because I
mean, he's great, He's good, but I wouldn't grades. I think
it's blasphemous. Um. And Iam a jay Z fan. Um.
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I haven't been too crazy about hislast couple albums, but in general,
I'm a jay Z Fanum. JayZ is in my top five without question.
Number one, yeah, number one, No, no, And I'll
just say it. This is whereI'm coming from. This is what it
is. Two pockets number one forme. So you know what actually Dariel.
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I want to tell you this.I just I'm gonna go with the
first. I'm gonna give you thefirst ten. Okay, because they're fifty,
but I'm just gonna give you thefirst ten. Okay, So we're
gonna go from one to ten.Jay Z is number one, Kendrick Lamar's
number two, number three. Holdon, let's do hold on, hold
on, let's do this because Iwant to go through. I'm gonna tell
you, um if I will putthem in the top ten or not.
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M all right, go ahead,start start again from number one, number
one, Okay, jay Z,he's top top one, not number one,
Kendrick Lamar, top ten, notnumber two, NAS top five,
Tupac, he's my number one,Eminem top ten, Notorious b I,
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he's in my top five, LittleWayne. I can see a case for
top ten for Drake. Yeah,Drake is probably would probably be the highest
of the quote unquote new rappers forme, he'd be He's in my top
ten, all right, and themost you know, Uncle Snoop Dog I
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would have ice Cube above Snoop,but I could that's that's debatable. You
could argue and number ten and NickiMinas nah, I disagree that of the
female female rappers. No, no, no, no, that's absurd.
What do you think about she shouldnot be in the top ten, Like
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I'm we're not giving brownie points justbecause you're a woman, Like I'm sorry
you if you're gonna play this no, like, if you're gonna play this
sport, then like we're not about, you know, brownie points. Like
if she if it was a topten women's list, then yeah, she's
top ten. But like, ain'tno way in the world you're telling me
that. Sh So, who wasyour place with Nicki Minaj if it had
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to be a woman little Kim?No, but no, okay, let's
take a woman outlet. If we'regonna make it a little if we're gonna
make it a woman, to me, it'd be little Kim. Why are
we doing that? But what ifit was amazing not just the greatest one?
Why is it not just the topthe best rapper? So to me?
All right, So, like Isaid, if we're gonna do women,
I would say little Kim. Ifwe're not gonna do women, like
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neither one of them better than Ice, qu ain't neither one of them more
important than like Ron Kim ain't noneof them? Like, what are we
doing? Wait? Wait, waitlater, So little Kim is actually at
number thirty one. Who did yousay? Thirty one? Thirty one one?
Really? Yeah? Wait a minute, wait wait wait wait wait wait
hold on, hold on, letme process this. Okay. Nicki Minaj
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is in the top ten over thewoman on check this out. Nicki Minaj
is in the top ten over thewoman who created the blueprint that she followed.
Yep, how does that work?Listen is delusional? Where where do
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you not say? Where do you? Where? Do you agree or disagree
with this top ten? Oh?I'm I mean, I don't think Little
Wayne should be in the top ten. Um, I don't neither, But
that's I think. I think that'sa defensible position. I don't think who
will you replace? I'm partial toguys who paved it away? So like,
I just don't think little I mean, I just don't think. I
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like Little Wayne when I was growingup, But as I grew up,
I realized like a lot of LittleWayne's bars was like this basic and trivia,
and plus there's this whole cloud aboutlike did people write for him,
which it kind of seems like theydid. I know Gilly definitely helped him
along the way. We'll just leaveit at that, but I mean,
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I just don't think that. Idon't think he's one of the ten quote
greatest rappers. And I mean thatcould be that leaves things very wide open,
right, Like I'm okay with jayZ being number one, because when
you take a look at it,like jay Z got more than enough classic
albums. I think his bars wastop tier. I think he was disagree
with its position. He lasted long. I mean that's just like if somebody
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says, like Pocket Big can't benumber one for me because like they just
weren't around long enough. Like I'mcool with that, Like, I'm that's
fine with me because in reality it'strue, Like we're talking. If you're
given me jay Z's career versus Tupac'scareer, I'm taking Jay's career because I
get twenty five years of like forthe most part, you know, the
last you could say like now hedoing features and stuff, but I mean,
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really, I mean jay Z's fiftythey was they was releasing two pove
albums until two thousand and six.Yeah, but I mean like he wasn't
making nothing new or is that justthe new twenty three mm in twenty in
twenty three is like jay Z likethe nove the new best rapper like over,
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Like, here's the thing. It'sthat one isn't as much of an
abomination to me because jay Z isin my top five no matter what.
Right, So it's I like theolder jay Z just like I do two.
But for me, it's poc Na'sBig Jay and Cube that's my top
five. You know what? Actually, I was gonna tell you Ice Cube
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is on he's on the list numbereighteen. No, he's he's top five.
How do you feel about that?Danton A team? Yeah, I
mean Q was somebody could argue.I guess you can make an argument that
Cube is in top five. Idon't know if a team feels kind of
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low. Yeah, because I'm alsothinking, but how do you say he's
not top ten? Well, becauseit just you know a lot of these
even in sports where it's like greatestversus best, Right, Okay, I
think you know, greatness and bestcould be different, right, Like I
think I don't really think anybody isnecessarily better than Ice Que or or like
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yeah, better or greater. That'sthat's my thing. Like all right,
you could argue that, like newerguys have more creative bars and all that
type of stuff, But like,I don't really understand how you could say
that you're greater than people who builtwho built this. It's almost like,
yeah, it might be better thanit, Like you know, I appreciate
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it, but I feel like,you know, the the dude, you
know, like they they don't wantto pave the way. Yeah, like
you ain't greater, Like Kendrick isnot greater than rock Him. He might
be better than him. I don'tknow who that is. Yeah, like
arab Ba Rocket, like build this, we gotta get Robin. Yeah,
but I don't know his name.So Kendrick could be better, Like Kendrick
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could be better than That's that's thesame because he's that's the new human Nas
little kim argument I'm making. Soyeah, so I'll see what you're saying,
like yeah, because I am Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Rock Kim Nas got the blueprint fromRock Him. Tupac was similar to the
Rocket, you know what I mean, Rock Him that's your favorite rappers,
favorite rapper. I'm gonna have togo look him up after the show because
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I mean, yeah, a lotof a lot of the guys that you
like the most got a lot oftheir their cadence and style. Rock Him
was the first guy who was rappinglike that yep, whole so NAS basically
got his sauce from him. Yeah, everybody, well before, right before
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you had people like a Rock Himand the rappers before that was like yo,
hey yo, what a goal youknow what I mean, like that
kind of stuff, Like they weredoing those kind of like that kind of
like cartoony wow, you know whati mean, like that kind of stuff.
And Rock Him was the one whothat whole that whole thing up and
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spoke and start doing more like apoet, you know what I mean.
More rappers were like that because Ilike that stuff. Yeah, I like
that the new, this new typeof rap. I just can't seem to
like half the guys that I canrock with. Like, like I'm I
like Drake, I'm a Drake fan. Rick Ross is my dude. I
love Rick Ross. Um. Ido like Kendrick. Kendrick is a really
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good you know what I'm saying.So I like some of the new newer
guys, But I'm with you,Robin, like this this it's hard for
me to kind of like and theylike they say wow stuff and then Cadence
be off and like they me makingsound effects. Mostly that's why I like,
That's why I think Jays That's whyI think Jay got the greatest argument
in my opinion, for being thegreatest because jay Z put out classics in
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the nineties, he put out classicsinto two thousands. He was still pretty
good in the two thousand and tensand an incredible album. Like I mean,
Jay Jay has really been great forthree decades and that takes time.
That takes one, that takes anincredible amount of talent, but two it
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also takes in a you gotta beable to adapt. I think it's like
I said, I think it's anarguable position. He's not number one for
me two pockets number one for me, hands down, period. But jay
Z is in my top five rightSo, so is there really that much
of a difference between one and three, right, like because or four for
me? Because I got to meit's poc Nas, Big J and Q.
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That's but if you had to dowith top five, what's your top
five? Um Man, that's hardoff the top of my head because I
don't know, like, in termsof talent, could I I think through
the list of fifty just real quick? I don't have like I can just
read through the risk the list realfast, Like would you be able to
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grasp it and just pick who youwanted? Well, I could tell you
right now. So like, interms of talent and greatness, I try
to fuse them. I feel likethe three most talented guys I've ever heard,
well, four most talented guys Iever heard in some in no order
are Jay, rock Him, andI'm putting rock Him in there just off
sheer greatness because all of y'all wantedto be like me, so I must
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like it, don't you know whatI'm saying. I don't care, after
all want to be they all theguys that you love love me. So
rock Him is goded in NASS standpointsfor but no wait wait, Jay,
rock Him, uh Nas Big,and Yay. Those are the five most
talented people I've ever heard. I'mokay, so number thirteen, He's on
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number thirteen him, and Kanye ison number eleven eleven. Yeah, I
mean you know, I mean Icould see I could I mean, honestly,
where we are with Kanye, Ican see somebody saying, like I
don't even want him want to list, you know what I mean, Like
just because of like where we are, Like I'm sure, I mean,
come on, this is a billboardlist, like on, you know,
there were probably some people that fromthe group that he's been speaking out against
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that are involved with making this list, you know what I mean. Like
I can understand him not making thelist, but I just personally, yeah,
yeah, it doesn't help. Yeah, he should stop offending. It's
like making a point guard list intwenty fifty without having Magic Johnson. It's
like, Okay, there may beguys who have come up because the game
is so advanced that now Magic youcould say, like, oh, well
he played in the eighties, it'snow twenty and seventy five. Like we've
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got guys that are bigger, stronger, faster than him. But it's like,
yeah, all these guys that youadmire, their favorite point guard was
Magic Johnson. They all everybody wantedto be like Magic, so he gotta
be on to the end of time. Well, and this is one of
the reasons, and then Robin willmove on to the next topic. But
this is one of the reasons whyI don't really care for the Lebron Jordan
debate all like that, because,first of all, it's hard to compare
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eras and the game has changed somuch now for me, For me,
I have Jordan as my one andLebron as my two. But I think
people who have Lebron as their one, I think it's a it's a defensible
argument, and it's hard. It'shard to compare eras like that when when
things have changed so much, youknow what I mean, where do you
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put so like an rap? Wheredo you put a kumod on that list?
Where o krs one? Exactly?Where do you put where do you
put guys like that on? Theybelong with scarface? Yes, you know
what I'm saying, guys who door guys that didn't have the commercial success.
But like if you put him ina booth, they would dog some
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of these guys, Like if youjust put Jada Kiss at his best in
a booth with Drake, he wouldeat his heart. But he thinking makes
better songs, He makes better music. But like if we're just talking,
if we just on the street cornerin the Bronx or in Brooklyn or wherever
in Philly, Jay or Jada kissUh, I give you another one like
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beans beans, like these guys adog some of these guys today, And
I'll give you another What do youdo with the Tech nine? Right?
You know what I mean? Likehere here, here's a guy who has
never really had mainstream success like that, but he's one of those guys who's
your favorite rappers, favorite rapper andhis and he's incredible. He's incredible,
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you know what I mean. Soit's it's always hard. That's why I
look at it, Like the OrdonLebron thing, I don't really think that
there's a wrong answer to that.I picked Jordan because I think Jordan did
more with less because Lebron is justnaturally physically more gifted and talented. But
I don't think there's a wrong answeron that, because it's just it's hard.
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It's hard when you're you know whatI mean, like and then other
people are making I've heard other peoplemake arguments like, Okay, well,
how come Kareem doesn't get consideration,doesn't get go consideration? How come Kobe
doesn't get a go consideration like orMagic? Right? So so it's like
it's hard. It's when you makethese lists, it's it's hard because errors
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change and they're you know what Imean, how do you how do you
compile the best in order when you'retalking about over twenty thirty, forty fifty
years, how do you do that? That's why I think it's I think
it is also a difference between likewho's the greatest and then who's the best,
because there will be better West Coastrappers than Q. But I don't
know if you could say somebody isgreater than him, because he, to
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me, from my money cube,is the first real guy from the West
Coast that people really respected, becauseI can just tell you a lot of
back east, you know, thoseguys on the West Coast wasn't really respected
like that, like in the samething from the south. Right. That's
the other thing with Rapp, Right, there is cultural and locale differences too,
where like East Coast Rapp is justdifferent from you know, the sound
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that came out of Atlanta. Yeah, and the sound that comes out of
New Orleans is different than the soundthat comes out of Texas. Right,
and Cali got their old separate thingbecause you got the La guys, but
then you also got the North NorthNorth northern California like that's a total the
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Midwest sound where we're at, it'sdifferent, you know what I mean with
with bone and twist and MGK,like their their sounds are different. Yep,
I mean so absolutely all right.Uh, since we went way over
on that one, Robin, wegot a few minutes left, pick pick
the best one, the next bestone you got left? Oh wow,
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So I was gonna hit you alittle Beyonce, but I don't think that's
the best one. Uh you knowwhat, I gotta hit you with some
hot tea. So since y'all wentover and you know, like some little
sassiness, y'all wouldn't stop talking.Uh So, Drake, we're gonna go
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with that one. That one's good, Okay, all right, let's do
it. All right. So Drakeis ordered to sit for deposition in x
x X Natashion murder trial. Drake, of all people, he's like the
grassie like what so you know,apparently you know, just you know,
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buy rumors based off of what I'veread, and you know my research that
I've done. I read that youknow xxx ten. Tashian said before he
was killed that if anything happened tohim, Drake had something to do with
it, and not long after theslaying of him, Um, there was
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a song that came out by Drakeand in his lyrics he was basically saying,
if you would have kept your mouthshut, you would have still be
alive. Wow. Kept your mouthshut on live, you'd still be alive.
Wow. So I will say this, I have not heard that song,
so I can't confirm or denied whetherhe did or didn't say that because
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I haven't heard it. I willsay this, and this is not necessarily
that I agree with this, becauseI think it's a First Amendment issue.
When prosecutors started using rap lyrics againstyou, you don't see them do that
in any of the genre of musicor of any other genre in the entertainment
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period. Um. But as longas they're going to do that, rappers,
you need to be more careful aboutwhat you say in your lyrics,
man, because anything you say,anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court like like, rappers don't matter who you are,
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with celebrity you are, it don'tmatter. That's right, that's right.
Rappers have to be uh more carefulthat they closest out. Yeah, that's
interesting one. I'm I have noidea. I'm really kind of curious to
see where this goes. Um myguess would be it doesn't go anywhere,
just because like you're not really goingto be able to probably you're not really
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going to be able to tie Draketo this, to this young man's murder.
But I mean, who knows.I I'd be shocked if it went
anywhere, But I'm really interested tosee what happens. Do you agree with
prosecutors using rappers lyrics against them ifyou're stupid enough to actually be doing the
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wild stuff that you're saying, thenyes, But then I also, I
mean, like you said, it'snot this isn't a thing for every other
genre of music, right, soor entertainment. So yes and no,
because I think we should punish stupidity. But I also, you know,
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I also see the other side,like, well, we don't do it
when rock and roll starts, youknow, talk about using drugs, and
then once somebody on their tour bushas an overdose, like should they be
held responsible? Like we don't dothat, So I don't you know,
I don't know, but you know, I again, like if you are
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making songs about selling drugs and shootingpeople, and you're actually doing that,
well, yeah, you need togo sit down. Yeah, yeah,
that's yes, that's a yeah.Yeah, I agree with that. I
don't I have an issue with withthem using it on First Amendment grounds,
But if you're actually committing the crimesthat you're talking about, then yeah,
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This is the FCB Podcast Network.Turn it up the latest celebrity news and
gossip. It's tea time with theRow on the Outlaws radio show. All
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right, y'all, So I havelike so so much tea because you know,
I missed last week and I've justbeen I got a lot, a
lot. But We're gonna start offwith jay Z. I've never spoken to
him, so this is new news. Like I'm usually on particular type of
celebrities, if you may. Butum, so the awards just bypass us
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and they just actually named jay Zthe greatest rapper of all times. Um,
and that is in the top fifty. Um, I believe. I
mean, I don't know how Ifeel about that, truthfully, because I
mean, he's great, He's good, but I wouldn't grades. I think
it's blasphemous. Um. And Iam a jay Z fan. Um.
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I haven't been too crazy about hislast couple albums, but in general,
I'm a jay Z Fanum. JayZ is in my top five without question.
Number one, yeah, number one, No, no, And I'll
just say it. This is whereI'm coming from. This is what it
is. Two pockets number one forme. So you know what actually Dariel.
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I want to tell you this.I just I'm gonna go with the
first. I'm gonna give you thefirst ten. Okay, because they're fifty,
but I'm just gonna give you thefirst ten. Okay, So we're
gonna go from one to ten.Jay Z is number one, Kendrick Lamar's
number two, number three. Holdon, let's do hold on, hold
on, let's do this because Iwant to go through. I'm gonna tell
you, um if I will putthem in the top ten or not.
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M all right, go ahead,start start again from number one, number
one, Okay, jay Z,he's top top one, not number one,
Kendrick Lamar, top ten, notnumber two, NAS top five,
Tupac, he's my number one,Eminem top ten, Notorious b I,
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he's in my top five, LittleWayne. I can see a case for
top ten for Drake. Yeah,Drake is probably would probably be the highest
of the quote unquote new rappers forme, he'd be He's in my top
ten, all right, and themost you know, Uncle Snoop Dog I
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would have ice Cube above Snoop,but I could that's that's debatable. You
could argue and number ten and NickiMinas nah, I disagree that of the
female female rappers. No, no, no, no, that's absurd.
What do you think about she shouldnot be in the top ten, Like
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I'm we're not giving brownie points justbecause you're a woman, Like I'm sorry
you if you're gonna play this no, like, if you're gonna play this
sport, then like we're not about, you know, brownie points. Like
if she if it was a topten women's list, then yeah, she's
top ten. But like, ain'tno way in the world you're telling me
that. Sh So, who wasyour place with Nicki Minaj if it had
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to be a woman little Kim?No, but no, okay, let's
take a woman outlet. If we'regonna make it a little if we're gonna
make it a woman, to me, it'd be little Kim. Why are
we doing that? But what ifit was amazing not just the greatest one?
Why is it not just the topthe best rapper? So to me?
All right, So, like Isaid, if we're gonna do women,
I would say little Kim. Ifwe're not gonna do women, like
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neither one of them better than Ice, qu ain't neither one of them more
important than like Ron Kim ain't noneof them? Like, what are we
doing? Wait? Wait, waitlater, So little Kim is actually at
number thirty one. Who did yousay? Thirty one? Thirty one one?
Really? Yeah? Wait a minute, wait wait wait wait wait wait
hold on, hold on, letme process this. Okay. Nicki Minaj
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is in the top ten over thewoman on check this out. Nicki Minaj
is in the top ten over thewoman who created the blueprint that she followed.
Yep, how does that work?Listen is delusional? Where where do
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you not say? Where do you? Where? Do you agree or disagree
with this top ten? Oh?I'm I mean, I don't think Little
Wayne should be in the top ten. Um, I don't neither, But
that's I think. I think that'sa defensible position. I don't think who
will you replace? I'm partial toguys who paved it away? So like,
I just don't think little I mean, I just don't think. I
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like Little Wayne when I was growingup, But as I grew up,
I realized like a lot of LittleWayne's bars was like this basic and trivia,
and plus there's this whole cloud aboutlike did people write for him,
which it kind of seems like theydid. I know Gilly definitely helped him
along the way. We'll just leaveit at that, but I mean,
(05:15):
I just don't think that. Idon't think he's one of the ten quote
greatest rappers. And I mean thatcould be that leaves things very wide open,
right, Like I'm okay with jayZ being number one, because when
you take a look at it,like jay Z got more than enough classic
albums. I think his bars wastop tier. I think he was disagree
with its position. He lasted long. I mean that's just like if somebody
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says, like Pocket Big can't benumber one for me because like they just
weren't around long enough. Like I'mcool with that, Like, I'm that's
fine with me because in reality it'strue, Like we're talking. If you're
given me jay Z's career versus Tupac'scareer, I'm taking Jay's career because I
get twenty five years of like forthe most part, you know, the
last you could say like now hedoing features and stuff, but I mean,
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really, I mean jay Z's fiftythey was they was releasing two pove
albums until two thousand and six.Yeah, but I mean like he wasn't
making nothing new or is that justthe new twenty three mm in twenty in
twenty three is like jay Z likethe nove the new best rapper like over,
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Like, here's the thing. It'sthat one isn't as much of an
abomination to me because jay Z isin my top five no matter what.
Right, So it's I like theolder jay Z just like I do two.
But for me, it's poc Na'sBig Jay and Cube that's my top
five. You know what? Actually, I was gonna tell you Ice Cube
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is on he's on the list numbereighteen. No, he's he's top five.
How do you feel about that?Danton A team? Yeah, I
mean Q was somebody could argue.I guess you can make an argument that
Cube is in top five. Idon't know if a team feels kind of
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low. Yeah, because I'm alsothinking, but how do you say he's
not top ten? Well, becauseit just you know a lot of these
even in sports where it's like greatestversus best, Right, Okay, I
think you know, greatness and bestcould be different, right, Like I
think I don't really think anybody isnecessarily better than Ice Que or or like
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yeah, better or greater. That'sthat's my thing. Like all right,
you could argue that, like newerguys have more creative bars and all that
type of stuff, But like,I don't really understand how you could say
that you're greater than people who builtwho built this. It's almost like,
yeah, it might be better thanit, Like you know, I appreciate
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it, but I feel like,you know, the the dude, you
know, like they they don't wantto pave the way. Yeah, like
you ain't greater, Like Kendrick isnot greater than rock Him. He might
be better than him. I don'tknow who that is. Yeah, like
arab Ba Rocket, like build this, we gotta get Robin. Yeah,
but I don't know his name.So Kendrick could be better, Like Kendrick
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could be better than That's that's thesame because he's that's the new human Nas
little kim argument I'm making. Soyeah, so I'll see what you're saying,
like yeah, because I am Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Rock Kim Nas got the blueprint fromRock Him. Tupac was similar to the
Rocket, you know what I mean, Rock Him that's your favorite rappers,
favorite rapper. I'm gonna have togo look him up after the show because
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I mean, yeah, a lotof a lot of the guys that you
like the most got a lot oftheir their cadence and style. Rock Him
was the first guy who was rappinglike that yep, whole so NAS basically
got his sauce from him. Yeah, everybody, well before, right before
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you had people like a Rock Himand the rappers before that was like yo,
hey yo, what a goal youknow what I mean, like that
kind of stuff, Like they weredoing those kind of like that kind of
like cartoony wow, you know whati mean, like that kind of stuff.
And Rock Him was the one whothat whole that whole thing up and
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spoke and start doing more like apoet, you know what I mean.
More rappers were like that because Ilike that stuff. Yeah, I like
that the new, this new typeof rap. I just can't seem to
like half the guys that I canrock with. Like, like I'm I
like Drake, I'm a Drake fan. Rick Ross is my dude. I
love Rick Ross. Um. Ido like Kendrick. Kendrick is a really
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good you know what I'm saying.So I like some of the new newer
guys, But I'm with you,Robin, like this this it's hard for
me to kind of like and theylike they say wow stuff and then Cadence
be off and like they me makingsound effects. Mostly that's why I like,
That's why I think Jays That's whyI think Jay got the greatest argument
in my opinion, for being thegreatest because jay Z put out classics in
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the nineties, he put out classicsinto two thousands. He was still pretty
good in the two thousand and tensand an incredible album. Like I mean,
Jay Jay has really been great forthree decades and that takes time.
That takes one, that takes anincredible amount of talent, but two it
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also takes in a you gotta beable to adapt. I think it's like
I said, I think it's anarguable position. He's not number one for
me two pockets number one for me, hands down, period. But jay
Z is in my top five rightSo, so is there really that much
of a difference between one and three, right, like because or four for
me? Because I got to meit's poc Nas, Big J and Q.
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That's but if you had to dowith top five, what's your top
five? Um Man, that's hardoff the top of my head because I
don't know, like, in termsof talent, could I I think through
the list of fifty just real quick? I don't have like I can just
read through the risk the list realfast, Like would you be able to
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grasp it and just pick who youwanted? Well, I could tell you
right now. So like, interms of talent and greatness, I try
to fuse them. I feel likethe three most talented guys I've ever heard,
well, four most talented guys Iever heard in some in no order
are Jay, rock Him, andI'm putting rock Him in there just off
sheer greatness because all of y'all wantedto be like me, so I must
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like it, don't you know whatI'm saying. I don't care, after
all want to be they all theguys that you love love me. So
rock Him is goded in NASS standpointsfor but no wait wait, Jay,
rock Him, uh Nas Big,and Yay. Those are the five most
talented people I've ever heard. I'mokay, so number thirteen, He's on
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number thirteen him, and Kanye ison number eleven eleven. Yeah, I
mean you know, I mean Icould see I could I mean, honestly,
where we are with Kanye, Ican see somebody saying, like I
don't even want him want to list, you know what I mean, Like
just because of like where we are, Like I'm sure, I mean,
come on, this is a billboardlist, like on, you know,
there were probably some people that fromthe group that he's been speaking out against
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that are involved with making this list, you know what I mean. Like
I can understand him not making thelist, but I just personally, yeah,
yeah, it doesn't help. Yeah, he should stop offending. It's
like making a point guard list intwenty fifty without having Magic Johnson. It's
like, Okay, there may beguys who have come up because the game
is so advanced that now Magic youcould say, like, oh, well
he played in the eighties, it'snow twenty and seventy five. Like we've
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got guys that are bigger, stronger, faster than him. But it's like,
yeah, all these guys that youadmire, their favorite point guard was
Magic Johnson. They all everybody wantedto be like Magic, so he gotta
be on to the end of time. Well, and this is one of
the reasons, and then Robin willmove on to the next topic. But
this is one of the reasons whyI don't really care for the Lebron Jordan
debate all like that, because,first of all, it's hard to compare
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eras and the game has changed somuch now for me, For me,
I have Jordan as my one andLebron as my two. But I think
people who have Lebron as their one, I think it's a it's a defensible
argument, and it's hard. It'shard to compare eras like that when when
things have changed so much, youknow what I mean, where do you
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put so like an rap? Wheredo you put a kumod on that list?
Where o krs one? Exactly?Where do you put where do you
put guys like that on? Theybelong with scarface? Yes, you know
what I'm saying, guys who door guys that didn't have the commercial success.
But like if you put him ina booth, they would dog some
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of these guys, Like if youjust put Jada Kiss at his best in
a booth with Drake, he wouldeat his heart. But he thinking makes
better songs, He makes better music. But like if we're just talking,
if we just on the street cornerin the Bronx or in Brooklyn or wherever
in Philly, Jay or Jada kissUh, I give you another one like
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beans beans, like these guys adog some of these guys today, And
I'll give you another What do youdo with the Tech nine? Right?
You know what I mean? Likehere here, here's a guy who has
never really had mainstream success like that, but he's one of those guys who's
your favorite rappers, favorite rapper andhis and he's incredible. He's incredible,
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you know what I mean. Soit's it's always hard. That's why I
look at it, Like the OrdonLebron thing, I don't really think that
there's a wrong answer to that.I picked Jordan because I think Jordan did
more with less because Lebron is justnaturally physically more gifted and talented. But
I don't think there's a wrong answeron that, because it's just it's hard.
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It's hard when you're you know whatI mean, like and then other
people are making I've heard other peoplemake arguments like, Okay, well,
how come Kareem doesn't get consideration,doesn't get go consideration? How come Kobe
doesn't get a go consideration like orMagic? Right? So so it's like
it's hard. It's when you makethese lists, it's it's hard because errors
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change and they're you know what Imean, how do you how do you
compile the best in order when you'retalking about over twenty thirty, forty fifty
years, how do you do that? That's why I think it's I think
it is also a difference between likewho's the greatest and then who's the best,
because there will be better West Coastrappers than Q. But I don't
know if you could say somebody isgreater than him, because he, to
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me, from my money cube,is the first real guy from the West
Coast that people really respected, becauseI can just tell you a lot of
back east, you know, thoseguys on the West Coast wasn't really respected
like that, like in the samething from the south. Right. That's
the other thing with Rapp, Right, there is cultural and locale differences too,
where like East Coast Rapp is justdifferent from you know, the sound
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that came out of Atlanta. Yeah, and the sound that comes out of
New Orleans is different than the soundthat comes out of Texas. Right,
and Cali got their old separate thingbecause you got the La guys, but
then you also got the North NorthNorth northern California like that's a total the
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Midwest sound where we're at, it'sdifferent, you know what I mean with
with bone and twist and MGK,like their their sounds are different. Yep,
I mean so absolutely all right.Uh, since we went way over
on that one, Robin, wegot a few minutes left, pick pick
the best one, the next bestone you got left? Oh wow,
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So I was gonna hit you alittle Beyonce, but I don't think that's
the best one. Uh you knowwhat, I gotta hit you with some
hot tea. So since y'all wentover and you know, like some little
sassiness, y'all wouldn't stop talking.Uh So, Drake, we're gonna go
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with that one. That one's good, Okay, all right, let's do
it. All right. So Drakeis ordered to sit for deposition in x
x X Natashion murder trial. Drake, of all people, he's like the
grassie like what so you know,apparently you know, just you know,
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buy rumors based off of what I'veread, and you know my research that
I've done. I read that youknow xxx ten. Tashian said before he
was killed that if anything happened tohim, Drake had something to do with
it, and not long after theslaying of him, Um, there was
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a song that came out by Drakeand in his lyrics he was basically saying,
if you would have kept your mouthshut, you would have still be
alive. Wow. Kept your mouthshut on live, you'd still be alive.
Wow. So I will say this, I have not heard that song,
so I can't confirm or denied whetherhe did or didn't say that because
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I haven't heard it. I willsay this, and this is not necessarily
that I agree with this, becauseI think it's a First Amendment issue.
When prosecutors started using rap lyrics againstyou, you don't see them do that
in any of the genre of musicor of any other genre in the entertainment
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period. Um. But as longas they're going to do that, rappers,
you need to be more careful aboutwhat you say in your lyrics,
man, because anything you say,anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court like like, rappers don't matter who you are,
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with celebrity you are, it don'tmatter. That's right, that's right.
Rappers have to be uh more carefulthat they closest out. Yeah, that's
interesting one. I'm I have noidea. I'm really kind of curious to
see where this goes. Um myguess would be it doesn't go anywhere,
just because like you're not really goingto be able to probably you're not really
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going to be able to tie Draketo this, to this young man's murder.
But I mean, who knows.I I'd be shocked if it went
anywhere, But I'm really interested tosee what happens. Do you agree with
prosecutors using rappers lyrics against them ifyou're stupid enough to actually be doing the
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wild stuff that you're saying, thenyes, But then I also, I
mean, like you said, it'snot this isn't a thing for every other
genre of music, right, soor entertainment. So yes and no,
because I think we should punish stupidity. But I also, you know,
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I also see the other side,like, well, we don't do it
when rock and roll starts, youknow, talk about using drugs, and
then once somebody on their tour bushas an overdose, like should they be
held responsible? Like we don't dothat, So I don't you know,
I don't know, but you know, I again, like if you are
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making songs about selling drugs and shootingpeople, and you're actually doing that,
well, yeah, you need togo sit down. Yeah, yeah,
that's yes, that's a yeah.Yeah, I agree with that. I
don't I have an issue with withthem using it on First Amendment grounds,
But if you're actually committing the crimesthat you're talking about, then yeah,
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