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Joining us now is Dylan N. Dappo, a twenty five
year old rapper who used to go by the name Dappo,
but rebranded so as music could feel more personal, and
is here to talk about his ambitious new concept album,
where Dappo mysteriously goes missing and Dylan not Dappo is
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Weather's here. Good afternoon. How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I'm good man, How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm great? Thank you. So what was it that made
you ditch Dappo and how does the new name reflect
where you are as an artist?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
The thing with Dappo was I had my group, the
Raw Music Entertainment Group, and you know, there was a
lot of stuff I was doing with that name that
I wanted to break away from. I feel like it
was time for a fresh start, and I thought what
was the best way to do it? And I thought,
you know, using my government name but putting like a
twist on it would be the right way to go.
But I didn't want to completely remove that alias from
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me because all my friends know me is Dappo, and
you know a lot of people call me that, So yeah,
I thought, you know, why not just you know, play
off that a little bit, you know, But it was
time for a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And was that a sudden moment that you realized it
was time to rebrand or was it more of a
slow build up and maybe you'd been putting it off
for a bile.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I think there was one moment where I really wanted
to do it, and then, you know, I put it
off for a little bit. But then once I put
this project together, I was like, you know what, if
I'm going to rebrand, this is going to be the
one I'm going to do it for. Yeah, so it
just all made sense.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And did your sound change along with your name?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Not too much, but I definitely became a little bit
more raw and authentic with the new name. I kind
of touched on topics that I wouldn't touch as much
as Dappo. Dappo was more of like a vague artist,
but now with this new name, I've become more like
not afraid to touch on any type of topics.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Your new concept album, Messing is quite a wild concept,
but in the best way. Because the concept is that
Dappo goes messing and then leaves behind voicemails and videos.
Where did that idea come from?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The idea is that this album is what's left behind.
This is when you find that it's already too late,
everything's already happened, and these are remnants of what is left.
And it is supposed to be like a little bit
of a prelude to what's next. But I'm not going
to get too deep into that much. But yeah, it
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is supposed to be an intro into this new step
of my journey.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And musically, how would you describe that style that we
see in the album?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So Disc one is a lot more raw, authentic, very personal.
I guess you could say I'm touching on a lot
of mental health stuff and problems with faith and relationships friendships.
And then Part two kind of switches to a more
living the dream of an artist, showing off my wordplay
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and wrapping ability, and then having some more upbeat stuff.
So Disc one and this two are two completely different sounds.
But that's probably the best way I would describe it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I kind of thought that because it feels like
Disc one is the breakdown and then disc two is
the breakthrough. Did you write both of those parts back
to back or did you live through the events in
real time and just write them as you went and
then decided afterwards which side they were going to go in.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Disc one was all recorded pretty much in the span
of a couple of months when I was going through
a pretty rocky road, I guess you you could say, yeah,
and that was actually originally supposed to be its own project.
But then I also had a bunch of songs from
before and after that like kind of fit where I
wanted to go next, and so that kind of gave
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me the whole Disc one, disc two where okay, Disc
two is where we're gonna head from here, and Disc
one is kind of what led up to where I
want to go forward, but the things that have led
up to it in terms of all the bad I
guess you could say.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And on Desk one you talk about dreams of being
a star, So what does that dream look like for
you now? I mean, has it changed since you started
working on the album.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I don't want to say too much about the next thing,
but the next thing is going to really tap into
that whole dream thing that's in the future. I'm gonna
let this one breathe for a while. Yeah, but I
do plan on doing something in the future where I
kind of tap in a little bit more into what
those dreams mean. My idea is it's supposed to be
a whole double entendre for how the industry is viewed. Again,
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I don't want to say too much, but it didn't
change much, but I've noticed certain things about the quote
unquote dream of the music industry that like.
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Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know what I mean. Some people may get turned
off by or turned on by and like it's you
notice a lot of things behind closed doors that you
know you don't really see on the TV. I guess
you could say.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And the album does get quite vulnerable as well with
a lot of the things you write about in it.
So how did it feel putting that level of honesty
into music? I mean, was it therapeutic or was it
draining or could it be both? At times?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It was definitely very therapeutic because for me, music was
my escape. So while I'm going through all these things,
that's how I release it because a lot of these things,
like some of my closest friends didn't know a lot
of the stuff that was going on until they heard
the project and they're like, dude, like why didn't you
come to us? And I'm like, the music's the only
thing that I feel like understands and here's me, you
know what I mean? So that got me through a
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lot of those really difficult times. Is being able to
say it on track?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And were there any lyrics in the album that were
hard to write or maybe even easy to write, but
hard to say out loud when you're recording it?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Oh? Of course, Yeah, there was a bunch of lyrics
that you know, I had to double take some breaks
on for you know, especially on songs like Alone Together
where I talk about, you know, the passing of one
of my one of my friends, you know, the song
lied or Breakfast where I talk about some some deep
stuff like you know, It's definitely tough. But you know,
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even now, you know, listening to it sometimes I get
a little bit, uh choked up, I want to say,
but it's it's it, of course, but I think it
enhances the art, you know. I think it's something that
people who are going through stuff kind of feel it,
you know, like so, but yeah, definitely some parts were
a little difficult.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
The lead single from the album is called Missing, So
why did you choose that track to represent the project?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Because that song, to me, was the perfect representation of
both sides, where I'm talking about how I've been going
through stuff, but I'm also hopeful in a way, you know,
like I'm still looking at it like there is hope
because I feel like some of the songs on this
one were a little too dark to be lead singles.
But then I feel like some of the songs on
this two were the opposite, were a little too up
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to be singles, so I wanted something that connected both
of those.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And how do you view the album overall? I mean,
do you see it as a negative thing about saying
goodbye to DAP like almost like is this funeral or
is it more of a positive thing about the transformation?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I can see it both ways. It's definitely something that
I feel like is a fresh start. It's opening that
new chapter. Yeah, and for me personally, I think it's
a positive. I could also see how some people are like, Okay,
well that's the end of the road for Dappo, but
you know, we got something else. So for me personally,
it's definitely a positive because I just view it as
a fresh start and I feel like, you know, a
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lot of stuff in my life has hit a reset button,
so you know, new new place to live, new people
I'm around, So it feels like everything has hit a reset.
So I feel like this was the perfect time to
hit a reset musically as well.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And how does the story of the album resolve at SLF.
I mean, does Stapple just go completely missing, never to
be heard from again, or does he show up or
is it sort of explained that it is a transformation
and it is just maybe an identity change with this album.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
With Missing, we don't really get that resolution. We kind
of get left on a cliffhanger, which is supposed to
set up future releases, because what I thought of when
I created this was originally this was going to be
a shorter like prelude, and then I was going to
have the main project, which is something that I want
to do with the whole dreams and like the industry
and like having like a double entendre for it with
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the story. But then when I started doing the Missing album,
I started to get attached to it a little bit
more and it became way more fleshed out. So we
left on a little bit of a cliffhanger at the end,
But right now we don't really know what's going on.
It's more of just what is where is? But that
will be explained in the future, But right now I
kind of want to just let Missing sit for a
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little bit and then I'll continue the story when it's time.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And if somebody found Dappo's voicemails twenty years from now,
what do you hope they would understand about who he was?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I would hope that they see that he is trying
to make things work, and you know he's not perfect,
He's far from it, but he is trying and he
has his bumps just like everybody else. But he does
really care about what he does and he wants to
make it work. Then, no matter how, whether he's going
through hell or not, you know, he wants to make
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that happen.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So what can you tell us about some of the
future projects that you've got on the way.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Without really getting too deep into it, if the last
skit of a missing album you hear sirens and you know,
people yelling, and it's kind of like what's going on? So,
without getting too deep into it, there is definitely a
theme of a dystopia type world I want to say
that we enter into that's supposed to be a metaphor
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for the music industry, and that I'm going to be
a lot more cinematic for I want to do more
like videos and more visuals. I want that to be
more of a visual project. Yeah, but it's definitely going
to be more active, I want to say, and more story,
even more of a story than Missing One Brilliant twelve.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In the meantime, where are we able to find this
new album messing and to keep up to date with you,
to see what you're working on.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Missing is available on all platforms Spotify, Apple Music, Title YouTube.
Basically wherever you listen to music under Dylan not Dappo,
all caps, Dappo is dvp O, the V is the
upside down A. And then my Instagram and Twitter and
all my socials is Dylan not dappo. Just all one
word and yeah, that's where you can find me. That's
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where you can keep up to date with everything that's
going on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Brilliant. Well, many thanks for joining us today. It's been
great having you on the show this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yes, thank you.
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