September 19, 2025 • 20 mins
Sean Martin is the lead vocalist, guitarist, and driving force behind The Quarantined, a band renowned for its raw, unflinching sound and fearless exploration of challenging subjects. A songwriter who isn’t afraid to confront trauma, injustice, and the darker corners of the human experience, Sean brings an intensity and honesty to his music that connects deeply with listeners.
Much of his writing is rooted in his own battle with PTSD, which has shaped both his perspective and his art. Songs like “Shadow,” written during a time of personal crisis, channel the weight of dread, intrusive thoughts, and sleepless nights into powerful, cathartic music. For Sean, creating is more than just making records—it’s a way of reclaiming control, pushing back against oppressive systems, and transforming pain into something that inspires resilience.
On stage and in the studio, Sean delivers with unrelenting passion, blending heavy riffs, haunting melodies, and lyrics that don’t shy away from uncomfortable truths. His vision for The Quarantined goes beyond just music; it’s about sparking awareness, encouraging defiance against injustice, and giving a voice to those struggling in silence.Highlights from Toby Gribben's Friday afternoon show on Shout Radio. Featuring chat with top showbiz guests. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Much of his writing is rooted in his own battle with PTSD, which has shaped both his perspective and his art. Songs like “Shadow,” written during a time of personal crisis, channel the weight of dread, intrusive thoughts, and sleepless nights into powerful, cathartic music. For Sean, creating is more than just making records—it’s a way of reclaiming control, pushing back against oppressive systems, and transforming pain into something that inspires resilience.
On stage and in the studio, Sean delivers with unrelenting passion, blending heavy riffs, haunting melodies, and lyrics that don’t shy away from uncomfortable truths. His vision for The Quarantined goes beyond just music; it’s about sparking awareness, encouraging defiance against injustice, and giving a voice to those struggling in silence.Highlights from Toby Gribben's Friday afternoon show on Shout Radio. Featuring chat with top showbiz guests. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
Sean Martin is the frontman of the alternative rock band
The Quarantined, Who's Raw and of escuirl Music, confronts themes
of trauma, in justice, and resilience. Their new single, Shadow,
born from Seawan's own battle with PTSD, channels both personal
struggle and the broader fight against societal oppression, and Sean
(02:05):
is joining us on the line here. Just now, how
are you today?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Great? Great? How are you? Thanks for having me?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'm excellent. Thanks. Now You've got, of course, that new
song called Shadow. So what was it that made you
want to write this song?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Well, originally to write this, I wanted to make a
song that was reflective of the how the how my
nervous system was making me feel with PTSD symptoms.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
That I had, you know, constant.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Not being able to sleep or relax, constantly always feeling
like the next something terrible.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Was always going to happen.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Didn't matter if I was completely safe or completely not.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
It always felt like that.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
So I wanted to until I got the proper therapy,
medication and correct or.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
To make to maintain some sense of normalcy.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
That I found a you know, an ability to deal
with it. But the song itself was written to at
least for me to make those feelings and share them
with other people, not to make other people feel terrible,
but just to At the same time, it kind of
is because it's also about the dehumanization process that a
(03:28):
society goes to. The shadow that the song is referring
to is the darkness of self, the parts of our
mentality that you know, we have a choice of good
and evil, but it's also about society's choice of good.
We have a responsibility to deal with that as a
society and the dehumanization process. And I believe it's happening
(03:50):
not just across America but across the world.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, and when people hear the song, what do you
hope they'll take away from it?
Speaker 7 (03:59):
At first, that it's a great rock song that is
really powerful that you know, the guitars and the experience
of it is, you know, in your face and just
like any good rocks on ship.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
But when they sail deeper into the lyrics, they'll find
that there's another experience to be had.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
And then once we release the music videos, there'll be
another experience to be had with the same music.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And that's quite interesting it being such a you know,
musically quite a cool rock song, but also lyrically has
a deeper theme. So did the music or the lyrics
come first when you were writing it?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Actually, in this case, the lyrics came first, And normally
that that doesn't happen. Normally it's I find the music
and then fit it within the frame. But I had
the lyrics, you know, from an exercise that I was
trying to do in music school actually, and the exercise was,
you know, write how you're feeling. How I was feeling
(05:01):
was I haven't slept in three days, I haven't eaten
in two I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
What the hell is going on.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
I'm angry or pissed off, and I don't know why,
you know, And so I'm like, how am I supposed
to put this into a song. And you know, so
I started off with the first line, which is forever remembered,
whatever after should we wait?
Speaker 6 (05:22):
To me?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
That was a description of PTSD and that you feel
like you have to pantheonize this thing that happened to you.
But really there's there is an aspect that you have
to a journey that you have to go on, which
is forgiving yourself and forgiving others and letting your and
letting your.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Life move on and not be trapped in a victim mentality.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And how do you balance writing a song that's so
wretch with your own personal experiences but also it's still
you know, I guess appealing to a broad range of people.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Try to write as generally as possible.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Actually so so the idea is not to make it
about you, but to make it about a but to
focus on the concept, To focus on the idea and
think of it as somebody else's writing it.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And it's not easy to do.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Well, No, I guess you have to. I mean, you
have to have a set of values and principles, you know,
And that said is you have to have empathy and compassion.
You have to be able to view the world from
a different perspective and look at yourself with that same lens.
And it's it's not easy, but I think that it's
(06:39):
absolutely necessary for anyone wanting to grow and mature beyond
what they've been told, beyond what they've been given as
the standard. If that isn't good enough, if that doesn't
jive with you, then you've got to figure out another way,
learn more, to grow more than what you have been given.
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societal oppression as well, so do you tend to see
music as a tool for activism?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Absolutely, music is one of the bests for that kunk rock, grunge, metal,
they're all trying to say something. Yeah, I feel like
it's I feel like it's an obligation in a way.
You know, you if you're up on stage, you're already
in a point of well, in a relative point of authority.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
It's it's how you use.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
That that determines whether or not you're an authoritarian or
you're not. You still have to you have to command attention,
but at the same time, it's what you point everyone's
attention to that finds the difference.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Now you've got an upcoming album called Aversion to Normalcy.
So what can we expect from the album overall? And
how does Shadow kind of fit into the larger story
of it?
Speaker 7 (09:58):
So question, uh, Shadow is sort of the middle part
of the of the album as a whole, and it's
so okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
That remind me of the question I got lost. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, So, what can we expect from the album overall?
And how does Shadow fit into it?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
From the album overall?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
As far as music goes, be prepared for heavy rock
prepared for I would say not. We're not trying to
sound exactly like something that has already been there or
even even the standards of the genre, you know, like
for example, Motorhead. You know Motorhead from Ace Spades. You know,
(10:42):
Motorhead's the fast, you know, really pushing you know, the
envelope and everything. Yeah, and you want to have you
want to have that same We always want to have
that same kind of energy as as Motorhead, but bringing
that energy even if we were playing slow, you know,
or slower for example, in Nemesis is a mix of
rap vocals and and singing and.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
The beat of it.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
I'm trying to adapt a rock version of Aliyah's telling
me about Somebody and you know the.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Right.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
So that's that's not a normal rock. The Shadow is
much more a normal.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Kind of rock.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
But we're doing a hell of a lot more than
keeping this the energy up, like you know, like the
rock and grunge bands before.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, And when you look back on your sort of
early struggles with PTSD and compare them to where you
are Nose a frontman and songwriter, what do you see
as your biggest transformation?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Well, I mean having coping mechanisms, having an understanding of
what's going on, not stigmatizing myself. You know, the most
common thing is, you know, why why is your sleep
schedule always messed up?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Why are you never on top?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Why are you constantly drifting off and conversation and not
finishing your sentences? Why are you do you seem unapproachable?
Why do you seem, you know, in a way, kind
of angry about things? Why are you quick to seemingly
quick to snap, But to you it just flies right over.
It's no big deal. All of those things seem very minor,
but they are all symptoms of untreated BTSD. And if
(12:22):
you don't actually talk to to the person and see
why those things are happening, and because honestly, even the
person will not. I wasn't fully aware of the effect
that the symptoms were having on me until I was
finally able to treat them and not have them every day.
And for me, medication really really did make the difference,
(12:43):
and I didn't want it to be that way.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
There was a good long time in which medication was
not an option because they were giving it to me
and it wasn't working. And at the time the doctors
didn't really know how to treat BTSD either, Like, Okay,
so you're in pain all the time, how about some
talent or how about some you know, uh opioids, those
are work. How about you can't sleave? Okay, how about
someone's less to take these pills there knock you the
(13:06):
fuck out? You know, take this tras it doin Oh,
then after a while, in order to deal with all
those symptoms, you have nine pills that you're taking and
they all make you feel like a zombie. That was
the classic way of dealing with PTSD. Now it's one
pill and whenever I whenever I see it, whenever I
need it, and coping mechanisms and breathing exercises, mental exercises
CBT to cognitive behavioral therapy to deal with the thoughts
(13:31):
as they come. All of these things are tools and
medication that help deal with the symptoms so that I
don't lose myself and are not able to be in
the moment at all. And that's that's the biggest difference
that when I was writing this, there was no escape.
What was normally, what was under the normal circumstance for
(13:52):
PTSD is wait about five years you're going to go crazy,
and however that manifests good luck. That's that was essentially
the way of dealing with it. The future that I
had was death will be your master. You don't have
a choice. It's gonna end up killing you in some
form or another. And the only difference is how you
choose how many other people are gonna go with That's it, Yes,
(14:13):
And that's a horrible, horrible existence. That's if you are
constantly being ground down into nothing and made to feel
like you aren't worth anything, and everything that you offer
is jaded by this thing that you can't see and
can't describe. Well, it's like you're constantly living under a
shadow of its Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And of course this song shadow, as you know, obviously
deals with PTSD, as we've discussed. But how do you
think that music overall has helped you? I guess is
maybe coping mechanism or a therapeutic thing.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Oh, immeasurably.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Music is most importantly a way to classify emotions.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
So if I mean not just you know, we have
the descriptive, but music will help somebody else feel it.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Just saying I feel angry, I feel sad, I feel happy.
All of those things are are relevant. But if you
play the music and then they heel those things, then
you're communicating, You're not just stating something.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, well, after this new single Shadow and of course
the album as well, A Vergent to Normalcy, what other
projects are you working on? Have you got plans for
anything else or are you just focusing on these for now?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Right now, I'm focusing on completing the music videos, and
we have a separate release schedule for the music videos
that they're working together in conjunction to see through and
for the promotion of it, and we have some really
we've gotten a good portion of one done. We've seen
(15:53):
a lot of the I guess we'll call them the
dailies or whatever, and they look really, really fantastic, and
it's really really awesome.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
It's going to take the music to a.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Whole different level, a whole nother experience that excuse me.
That brings a lot of all of the feelings together.
But also in a story story like you know, Confloyds
the Wall, like Prince's Purple Ring, there's a story that's
going on along with the experience of the music. So
if you're just listening to it, you'll get one experience,
(16:23):
But if you're watching the music video and listening to
the music, you get a deeper experience, a deeper immersion
into what it's really like for someone in a hypothetical
situation that's built a little differently than our world, but
still represents our world pretty close. For example, the premise
of the other music videos is that we follow a
(16:45):
henchman of an authoritarian government who has a very christine
life at home and also killing people for the government,
and how he justifies that when his wife and he
finds out his wife is part of the resistance that
he's been trying to catch and kill this entire time.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, in the meantime, where are we going to be
able to find this new song shadow and find all
the music that you've came out with so far.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Well, you'll be able to find it on Spotify, any
streaming service that's out there. We're on all of them.
You can also find it on our website www. Dot
quarantined dot com. You can also find us on band
camp and YouTube TikTok especially, we've been doing a lot
of specific content on TikTok that well, exclusive TikTok content
(17:36):
that's nowhere else but there, and it's been doing.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Really really well so far.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
We've gotten at least a few maybe maybe a few
ten thousand sections in every country, etc.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Chaya.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Oh wow, Yeah, it's really really gone a lot farther
than I ever could have imagined. And it's you know,
we're only we're barely through halfway.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Brilliant. Well, many thanks for coming on the show today.
It's been great to have you here.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I really appreciate your time and very much the question say,
it's really awesome to be on here.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I very much appreciate it.
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
Sean Martin is the frontman of the alternative rock band
The Quarantined, Who's Raw and of escuirl Music, confronts themes
of trauma, in justice, and resilience. Their new single, Shadow,
born from Seawan's own battle with PTSD, channels both personal
struggle and the broader fight against societal oppression, and Sean
(02:05):
is joining us on the line here. Just now, how
are you today?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Great? Great? How are you? Thanks for having me?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'm excellent. Thanks. Now You've got, of course, that new
song called Shadow. So what was it that made you
want to write this song?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Well, originally to write this, I wanted to make a
song that was reflective of the how the how my
nervous system was making me feel with PTSD symptoms.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
That I had, you know, constant.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Not being able to sleep or relax, constantly always feeling
like the next something terrible.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Was always going to happen.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Didn't matter if I was completely safe or completely not.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
It always felt like that.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
So I wanted to until I got the proper therapy,
medication and correct or.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
To make to maintain some sense of normalcy.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
That I found a you know, an ability to deal
with it. But the song itself was written to at
least for me to make those feelings and share them
with other people, not to make other people feel terrible,
but just to At the same time, it kind of
is because it's also about the dehumanization process that a
(03:28):
society goes to. The shadow that the song is referring
to is the darkness of self, the parts of our
mentality that you know, we have a choice of good
and evil, but it's also about society's choice of good.
We have a responsibility to deal with that as a
society and the dehumanization process. And I believe it's happening
(03:50):
not just across America but across the world.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, and when people hear the song, what do you
hope they'll take away from it?
Speaker 7 (03:59):
At first, that it's a great rock song that is
really powerful that you know, the guitars and the experience
of it is, you know, in your face and just
like any good rocks on ship.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
But when they sail deeper into the lyrics, they'll find
that there's another experience to be had.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
And then once we release the music videos, there'll be
another experience to be had with the same music.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And that's quite interesting it being such a you know,
musically quite a cool rock song, but also lyrically has
a deeper theme. So did the music or the lyrics
come first when you were writing it?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Actually, in this case, the lyrics came first, And normally
that that doesn't happen. Normally it's I find the music
and then fit it within the frame. But I had
the lyrics, you know, from an exercise that I was
trying to do in music school actually, and the exercise was,
you know, write how you're feeling. How I was feeling
(05:01):
was I haven't slept in three days, I haven't eaten
in two I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
What the hell is going on.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
I'm angry or pissed off, and I don't know why,
you know, And so I'm like, how am I supposed
to put this into a song. And you know, so
I started off with the first line, which is forever remembered,
whatever after should we wait?
Speaker 6 (05:22):
To me?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
That was a description of PTSD and that you feel
like you have to pantheonize this thing that happened to you.
But really there's there is an aspect that you have
to a journey that you have to go on, which
is forgiving yourself and forgiving others and letting your and
letting your.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Life move on and not be trapped in a victim mentality.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And how do you balance writing a song that's so
wretch with your own personal experiences but also it's still
you know, I guess appealing to a broad range of people.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Try to write as generally as possible.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Actually so so the idea is not to make it
about you, but to make it about a but to
focus on the concept, To focus on the idea and
think of it as somebody else's writing it.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And it's not easy to do.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Well, No, I guess you have to. I mean, you
have to have a set of values and principles, you know,
And that said is you have to have empathy and compassion.
You have to be able to view the world from
a different perspective and look at yourself with that same lens.
And it's it's not easy, but I think that it's
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what they've been told, beyond what they've been given as
the standard. If that isn't good enough, if that doesn't
jive with you, then you've got to figure out another way,
learn more, to grow more than what you have been given.
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Greater than just what's immediately handed to you as far
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Speaker 1 (09:04):
And part of the theme of the song is about
societal oppression as well, so do you tend to see
music as a tool for activism?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Absolutely, music is one of the bests for that kunk rock, grunge, metal,
they're all trying to say something. Yeah, I feel like
it's I feel like it's an obligation in a way.
You know, you if you're up on stage, you're already
in a point of well, in a relative point of authority.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
It's it's how you use.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
That that determines whether or not you're an authoritarian or
you're not. You still have to you have to command attention,
but at the same time, it's what you point everyone's
attention to that finds the difference.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Now you've got an upcoming album called Aversion to Normalcy.
So what can we expect from the album overall? And
how does Shadow kind of fit into the larger story
of it?
Speaker 7 (09:58):
So question, uh, Shadow is sort of the middle part
of the of the album as a whole, and it's
so okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
That remind me of the question I got lost. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, So, what can we expect from the album overall?
And how does Shadow fit into it?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
From the album overall?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
As far as music goes, be prepared for heavy rock
prepared for I would say not. We're not trying to
sound exactly like something that has already been there or
even even the standards of the genre, you know, like
for example, Motorhead. You know Motorhead from Ace Spades. You know,
(10:42):
Motorhead's the fast, you know, really pushing you know, the
envelope and everything. Yeah, and you want to have you
want to have that same We always want to have
that same kind of energy as as Motorhead, but bringing
that energy even if we were playing slow, you know,
or slower for example, in Nemesis is a mix of
rap vocals and and singing and.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
The beat of it.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
I'm trying to adapt a rock version of Aliyah's telling
me about Somebody and you know the.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Right.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
So that's that's not a normal rock. The Shadow is
much more a normal.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Kind of rock.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
But we're doing a hell of a lot more than
keeping this the energy up, like you know, like the
rock and grunge bands before.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, And when you look back on your sort of
early struggles with PTSD and compare them to where you
are Nose a frontman and songwriter, what do you see
as your biggest transformation?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Well, I mean having coping mechanisms, having an understanding of
what's going on, not stigmatizing myself. You know, the most
common thing is, you know, why why is your sleep
schedule always messed up?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Why are you never on top?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Why are you constantly drifting off and conversation and not
finishing your sentences? Why are you do you seem unapproachable?
Why do you seem, you know, in a way, kind
of angry about things? Why are you quick to seemingly
quick to snap, But to you it just flies right over.
It's no big deal. All of those things seem very minor,
but they are all symptoms of untreated BTSD. And if
(12:22):
you don't actually talk to to the person and see
why those things are happening, and because honestly, even the
person will not. I wasn't fully aware of the effect
that the symptoms were having on me until I was
finally able to treat them and not have them every day.
And for me, medication really really did make the difference,
(12:43):
and I didn't want it to be that way.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
There was a good long time in which medication was
not an option because they were giving it to me
and it wasn't working. And at the time the doctors
didn't really know how to treat BTSD either, Like, Okay,
so you're in pain all the time, how about some
talent or how about some you know, uh opioids, those
are work. How about you can't sleave? Okay, how about
someone's less to take these pills there knock you the
(13:06):
fuck out? You know, take this tras it doin Oh,
then after a while, in order to deal with all
those symptoms, you have nine pills that you're taking and
they all make you feel like a zombie. That was
the classic way of dealing with PTSD. Now it's one
pill and whenever I whenever I see it, whenever I
need it, and coping mechanisms and breathing exercises, mental exercises
CBT to cognitive behavioral therapy to deal with the thoughts
(13:31):
as they come. All of these things are tools and
medication that help deal with the symptoms so that I
don't lose myself and are not able to be in
the moment at all. And that's that's the biggest difference
that when I was writing this, there was no escape.
What was normally, what was under the normal circumstance for
(13:52):
PTSD is wait about five years you're going to go crazy,
and however that manifests good luck. That's that was essentially
the way of dealing with it. The future that I
had was death will be your master. You don't have
a choice. It's gonna end up killing you in some
form or another. And the only difference is how you
choose how many other people are gonna go with That's it, Yes,
(14:13):
And that's a horrible, horrible existence. That's if you are
constantly being ground down into nothing and made to feel
like you aren't worth anything, and everything that you offer
is jaded by this thing that you can't see and
can't describe. Well, it's like you're constantly living under a
shadow of its Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And of course this song shadow, as you know, obviously
deals with PTSD, as we've discussed. But how do you
think that music overall has helped you? I guess is
maybe coping mechanism or a therapeutic thing.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Oh, immeasurably.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Music is most importantly a way to classify emotions.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
So if I mean not just you know, we have
the descriptive, but music will help somebody else feel it.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Just saying I feel angry, I feel sad, I feel happy.
All of those things are are relevant. But if you
play the music and then they heel those things, then
you're communicating, You're not just stating something.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, well, after this new single Shadow and of course
the album as well, A Vergent to Normalcy, what other
projects are you working on? Have you got plans for
anything else or are you just focusing on these for now?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Right now, I'm focusing on completing the music videos, and
we have a separate release schedule for the music videos
that they're working together in conjunction to see through and
for the promotion of it, and we have some really
we've gotten a good portion of one done. We've seen
(15:53):
a lot of the I guess we'll call them the
dailies or whatever, and they look really, really fantastic, and
it's really really awesome.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
It's going to take the music to a.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Whole different level, a whole nother experience that excuse me.
That brings a lot of all of the feelings together.
But also in a story story like you know, Confloyds
the Wall, like Prince's Purple Ring, there's a story that's
going on along with the experience of the music. So
if you're just listening to it, you'll get one experience,
(16:23):
But if you're watching the music video and listening to
the music, you get a deeper experience, a deeper immersion
into what it's really like for someone in a hypothetical
situation that's built a little differently than our world, but
still represents our world pretty close. For example, the premise
of the other music videos is that we follow a
(16:45):
henchman of an authoritarian government who has a very christine
life at home and also killing people for the government,
and how he justifies that when his wife and he
finds out his wife is part of the resistance that
he's been trying to catch and kill this entire time.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, in the meantime, where are we going to be
able to find this new song shadow and find all
the music that you've came out with so far.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Well, you'll be able to find it on Spotify, any
streaming service that's out there. We're on all of them.
You can also find it on our website www. Dot
quarantined dot com. You can also find us on band
camp and YouTube TikTok especially, we've been doing a lot
of specific content on TikTok that well, exclusive TikTok content
(17:36):
that's nowhere else but there, and it's been doing.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Really really well so far.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
We've gotten at least a few maybe maybe a few
ten thousand sections in every country, etc.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Chaya.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Oh wow, Yeah, it's really really gone a lot farther
than I ever could have imagined. And it's you know,
we're only we're barely through halfway.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Brilliant. Well, many thanks for coming on the show today.
It's been great to have you here.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I really appreciate your time and very much the question say,
it's really awesome to be on here.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I very much appreciate it.
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