November 14, 2025 • 27 mins
Can you really build a thriving business and a balanced life? In this episode of That Will Nevr Work, Maurice Chism sits down with Renee Gillette, founder of Influencer Club Media and a leader at Central Lux Realty, to talk about how to build influence, impact, and income — without losing what matters most.
Renee shares how she turned the hustle into harmony, the chaos into clarity, and how entrepreneurs can redefine success through alignment, not exhaustion.
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Renee shares how she turned the hustle into harmony, the chaos into clarity, and how entrepreneurs can redefine success through alignment, not exhaustion.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I thank you very much for tuning into that Will
Never Work podcast. We often hear you can't have it
all family, business and balance, But what if that belief
is exactly what's holding you back. My guest today, Renee,
build a thriving real estate brand and media company while
raising the family, and she's here to share how she
(00:23):
turned pressure into purpose and success into significance.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We'll talk about it right after this.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Educate, empower, Enable Impact. Thank you for tuning in to
that Will Never Work, an award winning podcast where we
share inspiring information and personal experiences related to business and
the entrepreneurial journey from those who are leaders in their
respective field. Now here's your host, author and business coach, Maurice.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So Renee is a dynamic real estate entrepreneur, speaker and mentor,
helping agents and business owners grow their influence, income and
impact without sacrificing what matters most, So Renee. So many
entrepreneurs struggle to abuild a business without burning out or
losing sight on their families. What was the turning point
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for you that helped you redefine success and start building
from balance instead of burnout?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So, for me, my first life.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I was actually a registered nurse, so I did that
for fifteen years. I did, you know, started out in
the hospital forlor nursing and work my way up to management.
And at the time, now my oldest she's thirteen, but
at the time she was about three or four. And
I ran several programs over you know, two hundred mile radius,
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multiple people working underneath me as twenty four.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Seven never stopped. So she was on her little plate
phone in her playroom and I walked in.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I was like, hey, Camra, what do you do And
She's like, I'm on the phone, mom, And I was like, okay, something,
something's got to give. So it was constant, like I
never had an off period.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I was always available.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And it wasn't until my second came around that I
was like, all right, I think I'm situated well enough
to kind of flip.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
My careers over.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
So I've always done real estate on the side, but
I was ready to take more control of my schedule
in my life versus working in a building all day long.
And I saw several people that retired after forty something
years of working there and they got a cake and
a little fruit basket and say high five way to
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go and out the.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Door they went, and that's just not what I wanted
in my life. So after my second was born is
when I flip sides and started managing my own.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Now, I don't think I could to ever go back
and work for somebody. I mean, obviously I could if
I had to, But being your own boss is I
think what I was meant to be. I'm not meant
to stay in the same building all day long. I
am meant to be out about I always joked that
if I didn't have.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Kids, I would be a no man. I would just.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Basket with me and off I go. So basically, my
children is what triggered that change in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And so I was going to pick up on that
because you said something about your daughter saying I'm on
the phone. A lot of times we don't understand what
that mirror is, and we don't sometimes we don't like
that mirror either.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What were you feeling in that moment when your daughter
did that?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know, because I know when my children talk to
me and they said some things, I kind of had
to look more like, wow, like what am I really
portraying in this moment where they don't feel like they're
as important, or their voice is not as heard as
that I would like for it to be.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You know, So what was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's very eye opening because I didn't realize how often
I did that. So, you know, she went to daycare
during the day the evening time. You know, you only
get a few hours in the evening with your kids,
and so I realized I was spending most of it
still working instead of tending to her. Yeah, it's kind
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of hurtful, but at the same time, you're like, wow,
that much for you start.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Doing it to me right right? You know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The polar opposite constantly interrupts call so.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Much, you know, so how do you deal with that?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Because you know, you feel as though when you're working
a nine to five you have a little bit more time,
but now as you're building a business, you know, you
would think that, hey, I'm on twenty four to seven,
I can't stop. I have to keep going, and you
know all those type of things. So you know, what
was that transition, Like, how did that really work out?
Because the imagery is not always the same, the way
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it's expressed is not always the same.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So even for that, how was that transition for you, so.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Working from you know, set hour from you know, twenty
four to seven salary to a different position where it
was eight to four thirty. Now, I mean technically I
still work twenty four seven, and I still work seven
days a week. It's just a different kind of work,
I guess, so I don't. It's not like I have
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to physically leave what I'm doing to go work.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I am a multitasker.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I typically will be doing three things at the same
time most of the time, so it fits watering the
plants outside, I'm on the phone, making a deal, or
dropping my kids off at practice.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You know, I'm talking to people or you know, I
always joke.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So I travel a lot, and so I was like, man,
my clients don't even know I'm on the other side
of the world because of my cell phone.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It works everywhere I.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Go, so everything that I need to do is right there,
so it doesn't it's actually work.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
More now, but it's.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Not as daunting as working for somebody else because it's
you directly see the fruits of your labor when you
work for yourself, because if.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You don't work, obviously there's no fruit, right.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
So it's kind of one of those twenty twos on that.
But to me, it's more fulfilling. I don't feel like
it's draining, and I don't feel like it's work.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It just feels like it's just what I do.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But I can I can turn it off and be like, hey,
I have a client call and this steering a game.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Hey I have my kids game. I'll call you back later.
All right, cool. So there are you have the control to.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Manage your time, and you know in the mornings that
to block out time to go, you know, drop the
kids off the school, go to the gym, and then
I start my day.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So I'm I'm not a morning person.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
And so I always do what people say you've got
to you know, entrepreneurs five am blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm like, no, I than a ten PM than I
do five am. So it's just the ability to.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Kind of manage your time in which I think that's
a lot of people have troubles with this time management
and staying on track and not scroll doom scrolling all
day long, you know, just being more productive than we have.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So you the idea that family.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But then there's another part that you said as well,
which is doom scrolling.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
All of these Some people would say are distractions.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Can be distractions, especially if you have a set going
mind or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But I don't think that that's the case.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think that for me personally well doom scrolling, yes, family,
I think that there's another type of energy that they
give you, another type of how they feed back into you,
pour back into you, because a lot of times you
can at the end of the day, you can feel tired,
you know, like, hey, I've been dealing with all these
other nonsense, but now you have your your little ones
who's putting a smile on your.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Face, giving you the big hug or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So, but what about those individuals that might say, you
know what you know, Renee, I need you to grind,
I need you to you know, hustle all day every day.
You know, what will you say to those type of individuals,
Because you get coaches that are like that.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I always say, end of the day, we all end
in the ground the same way. So to me, there's
more than life than money, money, work.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
There's there more to a person than their status company.
There's more to a person than you know, what they
achieved over a lifetime, because I've met some really super
impressive CEOs and people that have done their businesses very well, and.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
When they get in a life, their family don't even
talk to them, and so.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
It's like, what was the purpose of all that? It
has no purpose if then the end it doesn't matter.
And so to me, I say to that, like obviously,
growing a business and wanting to be productive and doing
all this stuff is when side.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And then you have your family and the other, which
they're both parts of you.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
You just have to time block and manage time with
both of them. So depending on you know, to me,
like when my kids go to which they they don't
ever sleep.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I don't know what's wrong with them.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
But when they finally go to bed, like I, that's
when I like catch up on emails and things like that.
Or you know, when I'm sitting in a drop offline
doing things like that. So I tend to I say,
do two things the same one step basically. So I'm
already doing this with my family, but I have a
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few couple of minutes to catch up on something, so
I do that. So to me, it's it's completely manageable
to do both. It's unrealistic to expect somebody to constantly
work twenty four seven. That's that's unrealistic. It's kind of
like crash dieting, like it won't last forever. You're eventually
you're going to fail and crash and burn.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So you have to learn to you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Know, have a good balance with it, and you know,
and that balance changes from time to time. Sometimes it's
like hey, guys, like, sorry, I have.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
To get this done, and then.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Vice versa where I'm like, hey, prioritize, like this is
more important right now. I can take care of that,
you know later this evening or tomorrow or whatever. So
to me, it's and yeah, the people always like to
look at the people that are like, you know, do this,
do this?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Do this? Do this?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I like to look at their Okay, do they have
a family, are they married? Do they have other priorities
or responsibilities that they have to handle, And a lot
of the times that say they say they are married
and have a family, but they have a nanny or
they have a one you know, they have they have
extra support there that most common folks don't have. So
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it's it's different. I always tend to say take it
with a grain of salt.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
When you see these coaches and do things like.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That, because there's always something back there that's supporting them
and picking up the slack, Whereas if you don't have
that option, you have to learn to work around it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think that's very powerful that you're stating because we
don't always understand the background.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We always see what's.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
In front of us, right, and not understanding the process
or what they have gone through, you know, whatever the
situation is. Maybe they really don't like being home, that's
why they jump put themselves all the way into to work.
But because we're constantly seeing social media, Hey we need
to be like this person. We need to do that,
you know, whatever it is. And on top of that,
(12:36):
you're stating to me that I need to do X,
Y and z in order to be successful. Sometimes I
don't know if their productivity aligns with their purpose. And
so if I said that to you, productivity aligning with
your purpose, what do you think of that when you
hear that?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So to me, like my product to my purpose, to
my purpose is to the end game for me is
to build a foundation for my children. So both me
and my husband and I are family, love them to death,
But they didn't have anything to give us to start
off with, you know, they supported us, like, hey, I
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had a.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Good job for you know, go and call it. But
here you have to pay a bill.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
So to me, my purpose is to build something that
my kids can take over or benefit from, but also
have the productivity of it. To know that it doesn't
come free. You have to work for it, Like this
is not a handout, Like life isn't fair, Like the
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world isn't fair. The world doesn't care about your feelings.
So the only way to get what you want is
you have to work for it.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
And so to me, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Kind of like my my purpose is just building a
foundation there for my family, so maybe maybe they don't
have to struggle as much. I always have these discussions
with our friends in college, and I'm like, well, my
kids are going to if they want to go to college,
Like I obviously have a college degree. My husband does not,
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And so I was like, if they decide to go
to college, then they need to maybe pay for some
of it, or work part time, whatever it may be,
to make sure, you know, because I see these people
come out of college with this insane amount of debt
and they had a degree in something completely worthless, and
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I'm like, that is it's not smart to me. So
I'm like, I know people that went and have trades
that make way better money than a lot of people
that have master's degrees and doctorate degrees. It's just I
don't know, it's just my kind of philosophy on that.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
So just kind of building building a foundation for my
family to carry on is my purpose and to be
a good purpose, not two.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I guess my nursing comes into that. I just always
tend to help people and then hopefully most most of
my clients do that. I have all repeat clients most
of the time or they refer me off to somebody
else because of the extra kind of proactive approach that
that take to things.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So I understand that things are stressful, and.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I try to alleviate that and understand kind of the
empathetic towards the situation.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So trying to have my kids mirror that to where because.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
The younger generation now and communication is not the greatest.
So just yeah, building that with my kid. I mean
they're thirteen and seven and they will walk into a
grocery store and get everything they need. You know how
much it costs like count the change back, Oh my gosh,
driving that's cashiers and so and it's just little things
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like that, and so I'm constantly teaching them.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We always have this thing like just being one of
the harder people in the room.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And if you're not the smartest person in the room,
and it may stop them, listen to the smartest.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Person in the room. You can learn something, right, It's
just kind of never stop growing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I guess and I argue, and so.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
We leave a positive impact in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Here's my question because I'm because I understand your previous career,
you know, in being a nurse and where you are
right now being real estate and teach other entrepreneurs and
encouraging them. But there's something that you're alluding to, which
is legacy. And in that because of your previous career,
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I used to work in the hospital, So I wait
hear and see how people were, you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Know, they were whatever is going on.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
They don't have anything to leave their families or whatever
it might be. It might not even sometimes even be
just a picture, like they can't you know, things are
so hard that they can't even leave a picture, you know,
And so how has that your previous employment versus where
you are right now being an entrepreneur, and you're staying like, hey,
I really want to give something to my kids. You
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mentioned college, but even like down the line as you're
you're talking about this legacy, what else would you like
to see your kids have beyond just hey, just make
things just a tad easier or at least a memory
of your father and I you don't mindset, but what
else do you think your kids need to really have
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versus what you might see in your previous working places.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
The ability to make decisions, the ability to critical think,
the ability to see beyond what's in front of them.
So I feel like like you were saying earlier at
social media, everything is like perfect and and whatever, like
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this is what the ideal person is. But backstory is
is that person really that person? And so to me
from my kids and kind of what I've learned, you know,
I've had I've worked er, I did dialysis of done
you have done all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And so the common theme that I see with.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
A lot of these places is it's like poor decisions.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And just being aware of your decisions, and because it.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Does play a big part in it, and so I accountability,
my right.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Cheerable liars.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I know the instant that they're lying because the way
they be silly things.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So I'm like that doesn't like no, like don't lie.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
If you screwed up, I own up to it and
learn from it and make it better.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Or you know your situation. You know, I have an
eighth grader, and so you.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Know, certain things happen, and you know, learning to navigate
friendships and you know, realize that things aren't the end
of the world, or you know how to I'm real
she's a cheerleader, so it's seventh grade. I think you're
a leader as an eighth grader to help the seventh graders,
like don't how to do that?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, okay, we teach them. That's your that's what you're
supposed to be doing. You're an older cheerleader. You're supposed
to help them, and so just kind of teaching them.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
That aspects because I did see you know, like you said,
like a lot of people that had nothing, I mean
there is nothing there. But then at the same time,
some of the ones that had absolutely nothing had the
best family support.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, like they just.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Conditionally sometimes.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Sometimes negatively, like love them, in support of them and
all of that versus you know, I've had very wrong
people in the hospital that I've cared for as well,
and it's like, yeah, they had all the money in
the world, but they had no say, morals or you know,
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they just weren't good people, right, And so it reflected
on when it mattered whether you're a good person or not.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It doesn't matter how much you have in a bank account,
Like I don't care. And we have discussions like.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
This all the time, like I don't care if you
have fifty cents, I don't care if you even have
a bank account, or if you have five million in
a bank account. If you're a person and you're I'm
gonna treat you the same. And so my kids try
to always instill that into them, so even you know,
when we travel and stuff, and I enjoy taking them
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to do things like that so they can see.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like, hey, not everybody has a house, not.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Everybody has two vehicles, not everybody eats three meals a day,
not everybody does all of this stuff and so and
just even situations in school, all this.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Kid do you like, maybe they don't give any attention.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Or maybe they don't have mom and dad to go
home to and maybe it's just you know the ground
and so don't pass judgment without realizing that, and so
kind of kind of that's what I want to have
to teach them. It's just don't be a crappy person
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person and initially, eventually the world will reward you. It's
like it's not always going to Sometimes it sucks to
be the better person, but at the end of the day,
when it comes to it, you.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Know, you can look at the early gate.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You know, I know it's a good person, and I
deserve to be yourself nice.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I appreciate you, you know, sharing it because it's just again,
this just feeds into understanding our values and you know
what we're looking forward to as we're teaching and coaching
other entrepreneurs, like, hey, don't lose track of that, because
just because you're working twenty four to seven, you don't
have to lose focus on what matters most to you.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because once you start to lose that, you become something else.
You start to.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Lose morals and values and virtues and you know all
these other type of things. So you know, for those
of you that are listening out there, I don't want
you to think like, hey, while y'all talking about this
family stuff so much is because we don't want to
lose track of how important they are to our purpose.
And while we do this every day, and even talking
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about the legacy part, like, hey, we want to make
sure that they understand because our legacy doesn't have to
be you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Know, a big old trust.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It could be just how we influence our kids and
then they influenced their kids.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's part of our legacy as well, you know. And
so I just want y'all to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Be appreciative of what Renee is saying because I think
it's very powerful and I think it's what's needed today.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So Renee, thank you very much for coming on the
show and sharing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yes, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So Renee, because of what you said and what you've
shared today, please let everyone know where they can find
you your information, talk to you, you know, follow you
on social media, whatever it might be.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
So the best part or the best way to find
me is www. Dot Renee Gillette like the Razors dot
com that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Has all my Instagram, Facebook handles, email, phone, member, the.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Whole shipping on there Instagram.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I'm more coronaly in So it's Renee Centralux reality.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's by handle and shoot me a message. I'm happy
to talk.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I talk to people all the time about like, hey,
so you did this, what is your big advice on this?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
In the same way, I always reach out to people
to like, hey, how did you do this? So I'm
always in conversation and learning, learning new things, so reach out.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So I guess, Renee, you're extroverting out an introvert.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
In certain situations.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I hate networking convention type things.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
You have to walk around like my name is, like
just randomly meet people. I don't know why that terrifies
me so much.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
But I could be in a bus and just like, hey,
I like your shoes and like start coughing.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Weird?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean so so thinking of that transitioning into the
question I ask everyone, but would you rather question? Because
all it does allows us to understand how you process
information if you were in a particular place or whatever
it is. Again, is not explaining the green room. Use
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your imagination, all right? So would you rather choose three
doors or a fork.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In a row?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Three door?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Is there a particular reason?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Because I feel like it's more like price is right,
Like it's more exciting you know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What's behind the door. Soon as the door opens, you
know what's behind there.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
You gotta like.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
To find out what's there. Yes, three doors, definitely nice.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
So it's like either instant like yeah, anxiety.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mm okay, okay, uh you know because you know, I
like to ask that question because people have said the
doors are glass, you know, they could see the road down.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know what's down the road, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So again, that's just a fun way to end off
the show, and I appreciate you answering the question for us. Yeah,
and of course everyone, Renee's information will be in the
show notes. And if you're running, walking, climbing a mountain,
whatever it might be, of course you've always come back
and click on the links and follow Renee. And so
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Renee again, I really thank you for coming on and
reminding us that success is built on piece that lasts
longer than success. So I think very much for a
reminding of us of that. And so every one of
you that's listening, I have a few challenges. Please order
your life in business this week and where you are
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saying yes when you should be protecting your no. And
challenge number two, write down what balance really means to you,
not social media's version, not your peers, but yours.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
So I thank you very much for tuning in, and
of course I will talk to you just a little
bit later.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Thanks for listening. Follow Maurice Chisholm on social media to
stay connected and check back weekly for new episodes until
next time. That will never work, or will it
I thank you very much for tuning into that Will
Never Work podcast. We often hear you can't have it
all family, business and balance, But what if that belief
is exactly what's holding you back. My guest today, Renee,
build a thriving real estate brand and media company while
raising the family, and she's here to share how she
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turned pressure into purpose and success into significance.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We'll talk about it right after this.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Educate, empower, Enable Impact. Thank you for tuning in to
that Will Never Work, an award winning podcast where we
share inspiring information and personal experiences related to business and
the entrepreneurial journey from those who are leaders in their
respective field. Now here's your host, author and business coach, Maurice.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So Renee is a dynamic real estate entrepreneur, speaker and mentor,
helping agents and business owners grow their influence, income and
impact without sacrificing what matters most, So Renee. So many
entrepreneurs struggle to abuild a business without burning out or
losing sight on their families. What was the turning point
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for you that helped you redefine success and start building
from balance instead of burnout?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So, for me, my first life.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I was actually a registered nurse, so I did that
for fifteen years. I did, you know, started out in
the hospital forlor nursing and work my way up to management.
And at the time, now my oldest she's thirteen, but
at the time she was about three or four. And
I ran several programs over you know, two hundred mile radius,
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multiple people working underneath me as twenty four.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Seven never stopped. So she was on her little plate
phone in her playroom and I walked in.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I was like, hey, Camra, what do you do And
She's like, I'm on the phone, mom, And I was like, okay, something,
something's got to give. So it was constant, like I
never had an off period.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I was always available.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And it wasn't until my second came around that I
was like, all right, I think I'm situated well enough
to kind of flip.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
My careers over.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
So I've always done real estate on the side, but
I was ready to take more control of my schedule
in my life versus working in a building all day long.
And I saw several people that retired after forty something
years of working there and they got a cake and
a little fruit basket and say high five way to
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go and out the.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Door they went, and that's just not what I wanted
in my life. So after my second was born is
when I flip sides and started managing my own.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Now, I don't think I could to ever go back
and work for somebody. I mean, obviously I could if
I had to, But being your own boss is I
think what I was meant to be. I'm not meant
to stay in the same building all day long. I
am meant to be out about I always joked that
if I didn't have.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Kids, I would be a no man. I would just.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Basket with me and off I go. So basically, my
children is what triggered that change in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And so I was going to pick up on that
because you said something about your daughter saying I'm on
the phone. A lot of times we don't understand what
that mirror is, and we don't sometimes we don't like
that mirror either.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What were you feeling in that moment when your daughter
did that?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know, because I know when my children talk to
me and they said some things, I kind of had
to look more like, wow, like what am I really
portraying in this moment where they don't feel like they're
as important, or their voice is not as heard as
that I would like for it to be.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You know, So what was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's very eye opening because I didn't realize how often
I did that. So, you know, she went to daycare
during the day the evening time. You know, you only
get a few hours in the evening with your kids,
and so I realized I was spending most of it
still working instead of tending to her. Yeah, it's kind
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of hurtful, but at the same time, you're like, wow,
that much for you start.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Doing it to me right right? You know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The polar opposite constantly interrupts call so.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Much, you know, so how do you deal with that?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Because you know, you feel as though when you're working
a nine to five you have a little bit more time,
but now as you're building a business, you know, you
would think that, hey, I'm on twenty four to seven,
I can't stop. I have to keep going, and you
know all those type of things. So you know, what
was that transition, Like, how did that really work out?
Because the imagery is not always the same, the way
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it's expressed is not always the same.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So even for that, how was that transition for you, so.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Working from you know, set hour from you know, twenty
four to seven salary to a different position where it
was eight to four thirty. Now, I mean technically I
still work twenty four seven, and I still work seven
days a week. It's just a different kind of work,
I guess, so I don't. It's not like I have
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to physically leave what I'm doing to go work.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I am a multitasker.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I typically will be doing three things at the same
time most of the time, so it fits watering the
plants outside, I'm on the phone, making a deal, or
dropping my kids off at practice.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You know, I'm talking to people or you know, I
always joke.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So I travel a lot, and so I was like, man,
my clients don't even know I'm on the other side
of the world because of my cell phone.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It works everywhere I.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Go, so everything that I need to do is right there,
so it doesn't it's actually work.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
More now, but it's.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Not as daunting as working for somebody else because it's
you directly see the fruits of your labor when you
work for yourself, because if.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You don't work, obviously there's no fruit, right.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
So it's kind of one of those twenty twos on that.
But to me, it's more fulfilling. I don't feel like
it's draining, and I don't feel like it's work.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It just feels like it's just what I do.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But I can I can turn it off and be like, hey,
I have a client call and this steering a game.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Hey I have my kids game. I'll call you back later.
All right, cool. So there are you have the control to.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Manage your time, and you know in the mornings that
to block out time to go, you know, drop the
kids off the school, go to the gym, and then
I start my day.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So I'm I'm not a morning person.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
And so I always do what people say you've got
to you know, entrepreneurs five am blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm like, no, I than a ten PM than I
do five am. So it's just the ability to.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Kind of manage your time in which I think that's
a lot of people have troubles with this time management
and staying on track and not scroll doom scrolling all
day long, you know, just being more productive than we have.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So you the idea that family.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But then there's another part that you said as well,
which is doom scrolling.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
All of these Some people would say are distractions.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Can be distractions, especially if you have a set going
mind or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But I don't think that that's the case.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think that for me personally well doom scrolling, yes, family,
I think that there's another type of energy that they
give you, another type of how they feed back into you,
pour back into you, because a lot of times you
can at the end of the day, you can feel tired,
you know, like, hey, I've been dealing with all these
other nonsense, but now you have your your little ones
who's putting a smile on your.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Face, giving you the big hug or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So, but what about those individuals that might say, you
know what you know, Renee, I need you to grind,
I need you to you know, hustle all day every day.
You know, what will you say to those type of individuals,
Because you get coaches that are like that.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I always say, end of the day, we all end
in the ground the same way. So to me, there's
more than life than money, money, work.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
There's there more to a person than their status company.
There's more to a person than you know, what they
achieved over a lifetime, because I've met some really super
impressive CEOs and people that have done their businesses very well, and.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
When they get in a life, their family don't even
talk to them, and so.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
It's like, what was the purpose of all that? It
has no purpose if then the end it doesn't matter.
And so to me, I say to that, like obviously,
growing a business and wanting to be productive and doing
all this stuff is when side.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And then you have your family and the other, which
they're both parts of you.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
You just have to time block and manage time with
both of them. So depending on you know, to me,
like when my kids go to which they they don't
ever sleep.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I don't know what's wrong with them.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
But when they finally go to bed, like I, that's
when I like catch up on emails and things like that.
Or you know, when I'm sitting in a drop offline
doing things like that. So I tend to I say,
do two things the same one step basically. So I'm
already doing this with my family, but I have a
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few couple of minutes to catch up on something, so
I do that. So to me, it's it's completely manageable
to do both. It's unrealistic to expect somebody to constantly
work twenty four seven. That's that's unrealistic. It's kind of
like crash dieting, like it won't last forever. You're eventually
you're going to fail and crash and burn.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So you have to learn to you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Know, have a good balance with it, and you know,
and that balance changes from time to time. Sometimes it's
like hey, guys, like, sorry, I have.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
To get this done, and then.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Vice versa where I'm like, hey, prioritize, like this is
more important right now. I can take care of that,
you know later this evening or tomorrow or whatever. So
to me, it's and yeah, the people always like to
look at the people that are like, you know, do this,
do this?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Do this? Do this?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I like to look at their Okay, do they have
a family, are they married? Do they have other priorities
or responsibilities that they have to handle, And a lot
of the times that say they say they are married
and have a family, but they have a nanny or
they have a one you know, they have they have
extra support there that most common folks don't have. So
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it's it's different. I always tend to say take it
with a grain of salt.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
When you see these coaches and do things like.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That, because there's always something back there that's supporting them
and picking up the slack, Whereas if you don't have
that option, you have to learn to work around it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think that's very powerful that you're stating because we
don't always understand the background.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We always see what's.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
In front of us, right, and not understanding the process
or what they have gone through, you know, whatever the
situation is. Maybe they really don't like being home, that's
why they jump put themselves all the way into to work.
But because we're constantly seeing social media, Hey we need
to be like this person. We need to do that,
you know, whatever it is. And on top of that,
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you're stating to me that I need to do X,
Y and z in order to be successful. Sometimes I
don't know if their productivity aligns with their purpose. And
so if I said that to you, productivity aligning with
your purpose, what do you think of that when you
hear that?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So to me, like my product to my purpose, to
my purpose is to the end game for me is
to build a foundation for my children. So both me
and my husband and I are family, love them to death,
But they didn't have anything to give us to start
off with, you know, they supported us, like, hey, I
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had a.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Good job for you know, go and call it. But
here you have to pay a bill.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
So to me, my purpose is to build something that
my kids can take over or benefit from, but also
have the productivity of it. To know that it doesn't
come free. You have to work for it, Like this
is not a handout, Like life isn't fair, Like the
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world isn't fair. The world doesn't care about your feelings.
So the only way to get what you want is
you have to work for it.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
And so to me, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Kind of like my my purpose is just building a
foundation there for my family, so maybe maybe they don't
have to struggle as much. I always have these discussions
with our friends in college, and I'm like, well, my
kids are going to if they want to go to college,
Like I obviously have a college degree. My husband does not,
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And so I was like, if they decide to go
to college, then they need to maybe pay for some
of it, or work part time, whatever it may be,
to make sure, you know, because I see these people
come out of college with this insane amount of debt
and they had a degree in something completely worthless, and
(14:36):
I'm like, that is it's not smart to me. So
I'm like, I know people that went and have trades
that make way better money than a lot of people
that have master's degrees and doctorate degrees. It's just I
don't know, it's just my kind of philosophy on that.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
So just kind of building building a foundation for my
family to carry on is my purpose and to be
a good purpose, not two.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I guess my nursing comes into that. I just always
tend to help people and then hopefully most most of
my clients do that. I have all repeat clients most
of the time or they refer me off to somebody
else because of the extra kind of proactive approach that
that take to things.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So I understand that things are stressful, and.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I try to alleviate that and understand kind of the
empathetic towards the situation.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So trying to have my kids mirror that to where because.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
The younger generation now and communication is not the greatest.
So just yeah, building that with my kid. I mean
they're thirteen and seven and they will walk into a
grocery store and get everything they need. You know how
much it costs like count the change back, Oh my gosh,
driving that's cashiers and so and it's just little things
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like that, and so I'm constantly teaching them.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We always have this thing like just being one of
the harder people in the room.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And if you're not the smartest person in the room,
and it may stop them, listen to the smartest.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Person in the room. You can learn something, right, It's
just kind of never stop growing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I guess and I argue, and so.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
We leave a positive impact in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Here's my question because I'm because I understand your previous career,
you know, in being a nurse and where you are
right now being real estate and teach other entrepreneurs and
encouraging them. But there's something that you're alluding to, which
is legacy. And in that because of your previous career,
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I used to work in the hospital, So I wait
hear and see how people were, you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Know, they were whatever is going on.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
They don't have anything to leave their families or whatever
it might be. It might not even sometimes even be
just a picture, like they can't you know, things are
so hard that they can't even leave a picture, you know,
And so how has that your previous employment versus where
you are right now being an entrepreneur, and you're staying like, hey,
I really want to give something to my kids. You
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mentioned college, but even like down the line as you're
you're talking about this legacy, what else would you like
to see your kids have beyond just hey, just make
things just a tad easier or at least a memory
of your father and I you don't mindset, but what
else do you think your kids need to really have
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versus what you might see in your previous working places.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
The ability to make decisions, the ability to critical think,
the ability to see beyond what's in front of them.
So I feel like like you were saying earlier at
social media, everything is like perfect and and whatever, like
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this is what the ideal person is. But backstory is
is that person really that person? And so to me
from my kids and kind of what I've learned, you know,
I've had I've worked er, I did dialysis of done
you have done all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And so the common theme that I see with.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
A lot of these places is it's like poor decisions.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And just being aware of your decisions, and because it.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Does play a big part in it, and so I accountability,
my right.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Cheerable liars.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I know the instant that they're lying because the way
they be silly things.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So I'm like that doesn't like no, like don't lie.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
If you screwed up, I own up to it and
learn from it and make it better.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Or you know your situation. You know, I have an
eighth grader, and so you.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Know, certain things happen, and you know, learning to navigate
friendships and you know, realize that things aren't the end
of the world, or you know how to I'm real
she's a cheerleader, so it's seventh grade. I think you're
a leader as an eighth grader to help the seventh graders,
like don't how to do that?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, okay, we teach them. That's your that's what you're
supposed to be doing. You're an older cheerleader. You're supposed
to help them, and so just kind of teaching them.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
That aspects because I did see you know, like you said,
like a lot of people that had nothing, I mean
there is nothing there. But then at the same time,
some of the ones that had absolutely nothing had the
best family support.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, like they just.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Conditionally sometimes.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Sometimes negatively, like love them, in support of them and
all of that versus you know, I've had very wrong
people in the hospital that I've cared for as well,
and it's like, yeah, they had all the money in
the world, but they had no say, morals or you know,
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they just weren't good people, right, And so it reflected
on when it mattered whether you're a good person or not.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It doesn't matter how much you have in a bank account,
Like I don't care. And we have discussions like.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
This all the time, like I don't care if you
have fifty cents, I don't care if you even have
a bank account, or if you have five million in
a bank account. If you're a person and you're I'm
gonna treat you the same. And so my kids try
to always instill that into them, so even you know,
when we travel and stuff, and I enjoy taking them
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to do things like that so they can see.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like, hey, not everybody has a house, not.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Everybody has two vehicles, not everybody eats three meals a day,
not everybody does all of this stuff and so and
just even situations in school, all this.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Kid do you like, maybe they don't give any attention.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Or maybe they don't have mom and dad to go
home to and maybe it's just you know the ground
and so don't pass judgment without realizing that, and so
kind of kind of that's what I want to have
to teach them. It's just don't be a crappy person
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person and initially, eventually the world will reward you. It's
like it's not always going to Sometimes it sucks to
be the better person, but at the end of the day,
when it comes to it, you.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Know, you can look at the early gate.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You know, I know it's a good person, and I
deserve to be yourself nice.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I appreciate you, you know, sharing it because it's just again,
this just feeds into understanding our values and you know
what we're looking forward to as we're teaching and coaching
other entrepreneurs, like, hey, don't lose track of that, because
just because you're working twenty four to seven, you don't
have to lose focus on what matters most to you.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because once you start to lose that, you become something else.
You start to.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Lose morals and values and virtues and you know all
these other type of things. So you know, for those
of you that are listening out there, I don't want
you to think like, hey, while y'all talking about this
family stuff so much is because we don't want to
lose track of how important they are to our purpose.
And while we do this every day, and even talking
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about the legacy part, like, hey, we want to make
sure that they understand because our legacy doesn't have to
be you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Know, a big old trust.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It could be just how we influence our kids and
then they influenced their kids.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's part of our legacy as well, you know. And
so I just want y'all to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Be appreciative of what Renee is saying because I think
it's very powerful and I think it's what's needed today.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So Renee, thank you very much for coming on the
show and sharing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yes, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So Renee, because of what you said and what you've
shared today, please let everyone know where they can find
you your information, talk to you, you know, follow you
on social media, whatever it might be.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
So the best part or the best way to find
me is www. Dot Renee Gillette like the Razors dot
com that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Has all my Instagram, Facebook handles, email, phone, member, the.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Whole shipping on there Instagram.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I'm more coronaly in So it's Renee Centralux reality.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's by handle and shoot me a message. I'm happy
to talk.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I talk to people all the time about like, hey,
so you did this, what is your big advice on this?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
In the same way, I always reach out to people
to like, hey, how did you do this? So I'm
always in conversation and learning, learning new things, so reach out.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So I guess, Renee, you're extroverting out an introvert.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
In certain situations.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I hate networking convention type things.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
You have to walk around like my name is, like
just randomly meet people. I don't know why that terrifies
me so much.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
But I could be in a bus and just like, hey,
I like your shoes and like start coughing.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Weird?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean so so thinking of that transitioning into the
question I ask everyone, but would you rather question? Because
all it does allows us to understand how you process
information if you were in a particular place or whatever
it is. Again, is not explaining the green room. Use
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your imagination, all right? So would you rather choose three
doors or a fork.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In a row?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Three door?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Is there a particular reason?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Because I feel like it's more like price is right,
Like it's more exciting you know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What's behind the door. Soon as the door opens, you
know what's behind there.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
You gotta like.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
To find out what's there. Yes, three doors, definitely nice.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
So it's like either instant like yeah, anxiety.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mm okay, okay, uh you know because you know, I
like to ask that question because people have said the
doors are glass, you know, they could see the road down.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know what's down the road, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So again, that's just a fun way to end off
the show, and I appreciate you answering the question for us. Yeah,
and of course everyone, Renee's information will be in the
show notes. And if you're running, walking, climbing a mountain,
whatever it might be, of course you've always come back
and click on the links and follow Renee. And so
(26:54):
Renee again, I really thank you for coming on and
reminding us that success is built on piece that lasts
longer than success. So I think very much for a
reminding of us of that. And so every one of
you that's listening, I have a few challenges. Please order
your life in business this week and where you are
(27:15):
saying yes when you should be protecting your no. And
challenge number two, write down what balance really means to you,
not social media's version, not your peers, but yours.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
So I thank you very much for tuning in, and
of course I will talk to you just a little
bit later.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Thanks for listening. Follow Maurice Chisholm on social media to
stay connected and check back weekly for new episodes until
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