Hyperblasts: Halloween Hagar Horror

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Greetings, boils and ghoules.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to That's Not Metal. This is an addition of
Hyperblasts where we come at you every Friday letting you
know everything that's been going on news wise, release wise
in the world of rock and metal here on That's
Not Metal. But today, I guess this episode's going out
on Halloween, so I guess we're going to try and
make it a bit of an extra spooky one. We
have got a whole load of news, not actually a

(00:49):
lot of new music to talk about, but quite a
lot of interesting news stories. Nonetheless, then we are going
to get into some spookerly themed questions maybe as well
as as said, letting you know the releases that are
coming out, and that is what we've got on the
cards today. My name is Pernheish. I haven't come up
with a Halloween Susan in this time.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just thought of the prospect of doing that just now.
But joining me for this we have Sam Dignon and
Mark Sanderson are both crawling from the crips to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
How are we all? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Good?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Been decidedly like non spooking, more sadmonial punk recently for me,
but I'm shifting into the spooky vibes for Halloween now
to get ready for it. Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Tomorrow for us Halloween wise, I'm thinking I might watch
The Fog. I'm thinking I might watch something foul chy,
maybe maybe The Beyond, as it will sort of fit
the New Orleans vibe that we've been doing recently. It
should be fun. How are we Mark?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh, I'm spooked out of my Pooper's mate.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I you always are, just always.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm constantly shivering. I just watched Spawn, the scariest of all,
the biggest, the ghoul of them all, and let me
tell you who it is, terrifying.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, that's some interesting shows. In the last sort of
week or so, I went to see Fields of the Nephelin,
who are one of my probably one of the most
instrumental bands too, I guess describing where my taste is
at this stage in my life. I love that band,
absolutely wonderful band and a perfect like lead up to

(02:22):
Halloween show in particular. I also I went to see
Egor with many many urs. Egor touring the UK this
week with none other than Imperial Triumphant opening for them,
which was really what caught my eye because I had
not seen Imperial triumphant because they I don't think they
had played in you know, Manchester or the Northwest, the

(02:43):
kind of area where I am, since they once played
a Damnation like many years ago. At this stage, I
had not seen them like post them really becoming a
very well known popular band as they come sort of
you know, in their world as they are, so I
really may I got right out there for the Eagle
Show with Imperial opening, and you know, it was like

(03:04):
a thirty five forty minute long opening set, but I
got right up the front for it, and their intro
music was the kind of gold Star cigarette style advert
that's on the record.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
They had like sort of like a nineteen thirty style
Fleisher cartoon thing behind them with like a skeleton smoking
a cigarettes and it was like smoking kills the whole
you know, it's very like you know themed, it was
all in there. I was close enough to you know,
the front to notice that the bassist was wearing snake
skin boots, which is very cool, unreal commitment to the

(03:39):
glitz and glamour of it. And because i'd never seen
Imperial traffic before, I didn't realize that because obviously you
know they're not anonymous, right, Like, if you're a fan,
you know those three guys, and I've you know, I've
spoken to some of them.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
They do interviews or whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Like, there's not a character that projects outside of the shows,
I suppose. But because of that, I didn't realize when
the front man speaks to the crowd, obviously with the
big mask on, he's got like a robot talk box
kind of filter on. It's like so he literally was
like hello man, just with a robo voice. It was
really weird, but it was cool as hell, you know,

(04:13):
to finally get to see them. And they did like
four songs from the New gold Star record, which were fantastic,
and then one song from not even like the last
few albums. Like I thought they might throw in one
from Alphaville or Spirit Vetsy or something, but one song
from like way back, from like before the current lineup
even came together. I didn't even realize they played that

(04:34):
stuff anymore, but a really random old pool along with
all the New gold Star stuff. So that was my
my night, really fulfilled seeing Imperial finally. But then for
the rest of it I got to experience this kind
of you know, intense hard electronic metal crossover kind of evening,
which is what you know Igor. And also there was
another support act who I'd never heard of before, and

(04:56):
I was.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like, who this band?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Who are like playing above Imperial. I guess it's because
it's much more fit with Ego's building. There's a man
called muster Boot Record and they described themselves as computer metal.
They were like, we are computer metal, and it was
it's full on video game stuff basically, like it's kind
of like they had, you know, the background screen playing
loads of like nineties video games foot behind them and

(05:17):
it was like, you know, instrumental sort of tech metal,
I suppose, but with this like vintage video game.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Music kind of edge.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
And I was looking around and I was like, this
crowd is really like it's They're not the Imperial Triumphant
kind of nerds where you know, like Imperial Traffics have
songs about like buildings or whatever, which is what I am.
This this crowd is the computer metal kind of nerds,
you know what I mean. In between songs, they were
just playing hard gabba, just like full on the most

(05:47):
like intense you could not have a conversation with the
person next to you level of gabba being played.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But then Ego as the.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Headliner, who I've seen Yougor before when the headlined the
tent of Bloodstock, and like it's a weird sensation Igor
because you know, they've been around for a while, and
I was looking around me and I was like, Egor
at a stage now where they can play and they
can pull like few thousand people every single night, like
they are doing several thousand cap venues in whatever city

(06:16):
in you know, at least one or two thousand in
whatever city in the UK they might be playing in.
None of my extree metal makes her into it, but
it clearly has like a massive audience. And what I
was kind of watching the crowd reacting to them, and
it is like it's it's bewildering music, but you do
get these little little rifflines, little grooves and stuff like that.
But it's obviously it's very maximalist. With they have like

(06:37):
an opera singer who comes out and just goes oh
in a very very you know, like has no kind
of I don't know, no off switch. I suppose for
the moment when she's on, like it's it's way I
think it was set off Elliot Saltashia Mortis Alarm way
more than Fulta Tamo ever deserved to. But that was
an element of it. But at the same time, you've
got like, I quite like the bits when the main
guy who I did an interview with for not Fest

(07:00):
about their new album like a few weeks ago, that
you could go and go and read if you're interested
in kind of piecing together that music, because it's utterly
crazy music. And I was trying to ask him like
not only how do you do this, but also like why,
like what is the kind of emotional draw of connecting
these things the way you do? And it's an interesting
kind of conversation to get into. But the part is
when he's just doing like this is just a full

(07:21):
on kind of IBM electronic type set amidst this, like
you know, metal chaos, and I was just sort of,
you know, watching people go off for it. And I've
made me think about how, I don't know, the Internet
and an era of sort of very you know, genre
ambivalent and kind of you know, video game culture becoming
extremely mainstream as well, like stuff like this is more

(07:44):
popular than traditional forms of rock and metal in a
lot of cases, like there's like loads of heavy metal
bands or whatever who are not filling the venues that
something like Igor is playing. And I was again, I
was looking around me, and I was thinking, like a
lot of these people maybe aren't necessarily people who would
go to a lot of traditionally kind of metal shows,
but they are you know, maybe they're they're they're video

(08:05):
game fans or just you know, a very online kind
of audience who gravitates you things maybe based on kind
of you know, like vibes and whatnot, more so than
necessarily traditional song structures. But it's a very very intense
show ego. Definitely, it's definitely one to kind of take
in if it's in front of you. But yeah, very
interesting evening kind of internalizing all of that, along with

(08:27):
as said, finally just getting to go out and see
a few tracks from Imperial Triumphant Sam. We've got a
lot that we need to cover. But I know, what
was the kind of thing that you were doing at
the weekend where you were at kind of some massive
event of the Roundhouse seeing a million punk bands, including
some T and M Staples.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, yeah, so going through of them, there's just been
Common Thread Tour, which was this kind of like big
package day fest of all of your favorite as I said,
sad millennial punk bands when it was in camed and
it was on those like day that those venue hopping
sort of festivals. So like I end up going to
Dingwalls to watch a bunch of the emo bands, like
Daddy in the Hyena free Throw. So because the night

(09:03):
before I did go to see Defeata and Modern Life
Is War, Modern Life Is War amazing. They played a
bunch of the new album those songs live just like
they stick out in a set of like very inmostly
fraught hardcore songs as the kind of like the weirdo
panicked moments in the middle of it. Fantastic. Was good
to see them again after like several years. Defeata dramatic, intense,

(09:24):
emotional hardcore. That was great. And then yeah, the actual
round us push to me when I can say for
the second half the Dad, I get to watch the
Dirty Nil, the Hotelier Comeback Kid, Joyce Manner and Spanish
love songs and Hoot War music all in a row.
That for me is just the best time ever. Like
Hotelier worked fantastic. I was like really impressed by them.
The Dirty It was so funny after watching these kind

(09:46):
of like slightly neurotic, kind of like nerdy emo bands
walking around us and seeing the Dirty Nil just strut
on stage. Yeah, so that's the difference in it. I
loved all those human bands before, but it was a
kind of like real Vibe Shift Comeback Kid, one of
the best Hark bands around, always brilliant Spanish love songs
were stand up band of the day. They were really spectacular,

(10:07):
a great sort of two days of that, like say,
curating up alone of all kind of crossover into punk
and hard grown emo, but all kind of having a
shared identity, and it was just an awesome time. And
it feels like everon we went had a similar sort
feeling of like NonStop great music, we all love, let's
all just have a great time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, like I said, before we get to the fun
Halloween Bears, we've got quite a lot of news to
get into here, a lot of announcements kind of good
and bad, I suppose, And we're going to start off
with immediately for me, the best announcement of the week,
which Acid Bath have announced around the System of a
Down shows where they are opening for System in Queensland

(10:44):
in stadiums across the Europe, and they're playing that one
stadium show in London. I was looking at that being like, please,
please God, acid Bath play a UK show, just headline
somewhere else. And those prayers have been answered because Acid
Bath are playing a show in oh Manchester, perfect for me,
on the twenty fifth of June of next year. No

(11:07):
support bill currently announced for it, which I am very
interested to see if we do get an interesting support bill,
because if you look at all the many US shows
that have ever now happened or been announced, each support
bill over there has been like uniquely weird and fascinating,
Like there are some where they have just all of
the NOLA type bands like you, I Hate Gods whatever.

(11:28):
There's some where fucking like Nonslaughter and Midnight are playing.
There's that one like was it a fucking arena co
headline with masterd on they're doing with Power Trip, Like
really weird all over placed bills, you know, not necessarily
saying that all of those things of that kind of
size and statue are going to make their way over
to the UK show. But I trust that Acid Bath
will pick something cool and interesting. So I am very

(11:52):
interesting what happens there. But right now the news that
we have that Acid Bath are actually playing a headline
show in the UK and tickets have already gone on sale,
and yeah, of course I've got one, so like I
can officially now for me, this reunion is a go.
I have like an actual tangible receipt that I am
seeing Acid Bath next summer, and that is all that

(12:13):
matters to me.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
It would like me with a levee where ticket. Yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
This is probably like the smallest Acid Bath show I'm
going to play, isn't it? Like where is it Manchester Academy?
Is it this one?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
So it was announced for the Ricks right, which I thought,
that's that's small, and that's gonna get upgraded. And now
currently it's been upgraded to Academy one, which is I
can't probably like three four.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, I think, But yeah, that's for what Acid Bath
I've seemingly been doing. It's pretty still pretty small things considered,
like it's cool they're doing it.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, well that was me looking at the you know,
the big system shows and stuff, and if you're wondering, oh,
why haven't we got an Acid Bath headline show in London.
There's probably some you know contract contract. Yeah, they're already
playing in London. You just have to go see a
big stadium show to do it.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't have that problem, and as the whole.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Posse of people who have obviously you know, from all
over the country, even who I've seen this and gone yeah,
I've got to go to that. So that the people
are going to congregate on Manchester for the Acid Bath
show and I know.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
No showering for a week before.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, it's the big swamp party in the middle of
the summer. And so that is immediately like one of
the things that is the most exciting about the entirety
of next year, particularly as said, with the what we've
currently been doing on that's no matter. It's just perfectly timed.
Here we fucking go Acid Bath next summer. As said,
it's real. Now it can finally happen. Let's move on

(13:34):
to I guess less good news, which I just we're
keeping kind of tabs of this, I suppose because this
is a band who has been very lightly mentioned on
the show. I'm talking about Dogma, who I for the
first time really like paid any attention to just a
couple of months ago at Bloodstock when I went to
go and see them, just kind of on a tip,
people like, heyho, go see that band, and I was like, okay,

(13:55):
and I had a whale of a time. It's the
basically the band of sexy Nuns who play a sort
of very very cheesy but just very kind of openly
flamboyant sort of heavy slash power metal. And I've went
along to see it and I thought, this is just
great fun and some of these tunes are genuinely really good,
and the show was there and everything, and that's I
think the only time I've mentioned them so far. But

(14:15):
I went back and listened to their album from like
a year or two before that, and I was like,
some of these songs I immediately gravitated to live are
really big. So I had my tabs on Dogmas, like,
let's see where this goes. Unfortunately, it seems to have
already just collapsed and fallen apart. Where for the past
couple of months I'd noticed their you know, the Dogma
train kind of building steam with them upgrading their own

(14:38):
venues and stuff like a UK tour they've got planned
and all this business. But this week three of the
members from I think that lineup that I saw at
Bloodstock have all come out and said, hey, the band
has essentially kind of removed us on the whims of
a manager figure who is replacing these women who are

(14:59):
part of this lineup, and it seems like a very
very almost like very old school icky story of kind
of managing controlling figure fucking over the musicians who are
actually in the band. And when I saw Dogma and
I was, you know, checking them out afterwards, I was like,
there is an air here of something that is, I

(15:19):
don't want to say corporate, but there's an air of
something that could be a little cynical in terms of
like the presentation of it, in terms of the the
wording that they use, like their social presence, all that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
It felt very branded to me.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Very very branded in a way whereas like you can
tell that this is meant to be something that could
follow in the footsteps of you know, Ghost or whatever
it might be. But I went with it because I
saw the performance and I was like, this is legit.
These songs are great, and these performers are great. But
now if those performers are saying they've been ousted by
the kind of person doing that branding, particularly for a

(15:57):
project which is kind of you know, using a lot
of language about liberation of women against kind of patriarchal
religious institutions and whatnot. It's like, just you know, it
rights itself that it's being kind of maneuvered in this
way by a management figure, you know what I mean,
and the women are kind of being being used like this. Unfortunately,

(16:21):
it sounds like the thing that I actually enjoyed about
Dogma is being gutted by the part that is doing
the Ikey branding.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
That like that's when he was like, I obviously they
come and when I heard like the like of Prayer
cover and I was kind of like, okay, this this
feels like people like it. But again it just felt
very brand and this is kind of like my the
worst kind of possible outcome for it of like all
the members, we've been fucked up and you're seeing other members.
Was like I auditioned to being Dogma, yeah four years ago,

(16:49):
and then was showing the contract and was like, no,
screw that. And the whole thing is feeling very much
like there is a figure who's kind of like I
want to sell something and we're going to dress up
as a kind of like feminist, blasphemist sort of thing,
but it really it is about building a merch machine
and then like all of that and it just the
whole thing is like again, I'm not gonna say it wasn't.

(17:10):
I was like, yeah, that's a totally cynical thing. It
feels like it could be. But as you said, with
the performance, that felt genuine, so I was like, okay, well,
if that's what's genuine, then cool then maybe. And now
it's played out like this and I'm like, yeah, there's
that cynical, corporate branding machine kind of feeling to it
played out right in front of you.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's the kind of treatment of something as if it's
like a girl band, you know, where as said, the
songs I thought were great, and the performers and the
musicians who I watched were clearly great. But if there
is someone willing to treat those people who are really
utilizing their talent for this as disposable, then it's when
you it's it's an attitude that is one of those

(17:50):
things that just feels totally alien to what rock and
metal music should be about.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, this sucks.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like after you saw Dog man, I'd never heard of them,
but you basically we're like Mark, you would love this. Yeah,
and you're right, and like I've only just like gotten
into the album. I really love it, and this sucks.
I think. I don't know, it's funny because like I
guess there was an air of like this feels a

(18:17):
little artifice, but also I'm a hair metal stan I
sort of I don't inherently mind artifice in my music.
It's just when it gets to this point where this
is Simon cole Shita is, so this is the Spice Girls.
This is like so horrible and so like should be

(18:39):
of the past. Like I can't believe that, a it's
happening in power metal of all fucking things, but be
in twenty twenty five at all, Like it feels so
of the past.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, And like I said that this is we're all
the sort of the same boat here of basically having
only immediately kind of gotten into this thing. Yeah, and
then it has just sped run its way into unfortunately,
the you know, ikeier practices of the music industry, which
is really unfortunate because, like I said, I had my
tabs on Dogma as like a potential you know, let's
see where this can go type thing, and maybe it will,

(19:12):
you know, continue to get bigger or whatever, but not
without its trail of people left behind, which is a
really unfortunate thing. So, like I said to you know,
the women who have come forward with these stories and whatnot,
who have been kind of pushed out, left and the
cold here, those are the people who have my sympathy
in this regard. And like I said, they were the
people who I enjoyed in Dogma in the first place.

(19:34):
So yeah, something that should have been exciting just immediately tanking.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
But there you go.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's what's gone on with Dogma. Let us move on
to some very big festival and live announcements as well
as the Acid Bath one of course for next year,
and we're going to start with Arc Tangent, who came
out with their first lineup announcement for twenty twenty six.
And this currently does not feature any of the headliners
I believe, which makes it kind of even more sort

(19:59):
of antilizing, doesn't it. But the top row of what
is on this Art Tangent post over twenty twenty six
is Igor, who, as I just said, I saw this
last week and talking about how it's very you know,
very striking out their kind of show if you can
see it. So that's a perfect booking. Perturbata is their
chat pile. Are there also Alcest But there are three

(20:21):
bands I think on this poster that I think, you know,
for us as commentators, kind of particularly jump out us here.
One of those is Svalbard, who are of course on
their way out as a band. And I don't know
if this is billed as Valbard's last show.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I don't know, but
certainly it is the for the last time. They're playing
Art Tangent obviously, and it's one of their last sort
of few shows. And we were imagining where their last
sort of show might end up being, whether it is
at Timegent, whether it's a maybe a hometown festival.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
There you go, But Svalbard's final festival appearance is notable.
We also have Heck appearing on this lineup for what
they've labeled as ten years of instructions and they have
also said, I noticed on their social media's last Chance,
so that that's kind of bittersweet. In the a few
years ago, we got a song and it was like
Heck seemed to be coming back, and then it went

(21:11):
absolutely nowhere. Unfortunately. I guess this is our final chance
to dance with Heck but then appearing to do something.
And the big one is Oathbreaker, which we were talking
about the road Burn announcement a few weeks ago, and
I have to eat my words here, I said, I
am not sure they would even do anything outside of

(21:31):
that one road Burn appearance, but I guess it makes
sense that as they were once billed for it many
many and moons ago before the plague happened, that they
would extend to the UK and play Art Tangent Festival.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, this is this is big from Arctangent, as like
I saw first Swing Archange again is like it's kind
of like a few names I really like and then
a loast of I have no idea about and kind
of the same vibe here. But the stuff I like
on the Archtangelant this year is like the best stuff
they could possibly book for my mutations lot ways, and
they booked Othbreaker like if other festivals are kind of like,

(22:06):
hint that my favorite albums of twenty sixteen, it's gonna
be a good year to sort of see sets kind
of featured around that next year. For me, I like,
assuming this isn't build as rare in full, but I
would assume it's going to be a rare heavy set,
you would guess in the sort of situation.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
But yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Alcest is wicked, Starbard Final Festival, Heck one final time
for Then again, if they're doing instructions in full, seeing
that sixteen minute closer is going to just be a
magical moment. So I think this is like really strong.
And then yeah, like per bit of chat pile and
headliners to come. I think this is freing someone who's
not necessarily to launch fark tangent. I am so in

(22:44):
on this.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, loose fucking said. I saw the poster and my
eye was immediately drawn to Alcest, immediately drawn to Heck,
and I was like, oh, that's brilliant. Hold on a
fucking minute, are you kidding actual?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
But I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I thought it was like a jo good First, I
was like, there's no way that is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Like, how do you feel about the Heck news?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I feel I don't know, it's odd with Heck. I
just sort of need to not really be that invested
in them for my own sanity. So I'm at a
place where, you know, if they're gone forever, that's fine,
but they pop up once in a while that's exciting.
I don't know. They did that show in twenty twenty
two at the Underworld that I went to, and it

(23:27):
was sort of vague whether anything else was gonna happen,
So I did sort of take that as another final
heck show, another big you know, blowout arctangent like their
previous final show. That's nice. Something else on this lineup
that I did notice is Agent Prescore back.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, what have they been? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
They've been sort of in purgatory of being like, oh,
we're writing a new record, guys, for about eight years.
So yeah, fingers crossed. You know, Agent Press are back
on the back, on the attack doing stuff. This is
I mean, there's lots of exciting stuff on this line up.
Basically it looks sick.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I never got into that band, but I know a
lot of people were really really into them. Sam terrible news,
And there's only one reason I'm containing my excitement about this.
You know, this is at the same time as the
Cure in Manchester.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Fuck off is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Jesus, this, this is this is why today I've had
an air of melancholy over me.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I did not I did not put those two together. Well,
hopefully if arm Tangent lands on a certain thing and
I can sing a day for oat Break, a day
that might have to happen. Fuck I preserved, damn it.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, So I guess I'm also observeding what things fall when.
But I saw this and went, oh no, I don't
know how large across imagine there will be. You know,
obviously the majority of the people going to the I
do not know what arch Tangent is. Imagine there will
be some crossover of like, because the Cure is so
universally beloved, of people who would go to an art

(25:07):
Tangent who maybe already booked in to see in the Cure.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's it's rough that one.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
But removing my own troubles out of this, obviously it's
big from Arctangent and the return of oath Breaker in particular,
as well as you know, final shows from Heck and
Final Festival, ports from Stoubard and so on. Notable stuff
also Radar Festival announce their first lineup festival for next year.
Off of the back of this, they have got animals
as leaders headlining, also the likes of the Pineapple Thief,

(25:34):
north Lane Protest, the Hero, several things are on there.
Radar Festival. I guess it's kind of filled in the
niche that tech Fest used to do, and just in
the way that tech Fest was never my festival. I
never went to tech Fest Radar because it is, you know,
trading in the same kind of scenes I suppose is
not necessarily my festival. But I did look at this

(25:55):
and go, you know what, fair play Radar Festival. I've
been around now for a few years and it feel
like Radar have just very neatly and firmly sort of
you know, they've filled into that niche that a tech
Fest once did, and so as a I guess, you know,
they're now a pretty staple part of the UK festival
calendar for next year, for you know, any given year.

(26:16):
So I've got to give them the kind of the
tip of the hat for that.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's funny seeing them grow because I feel like I
knew Radar as this tiny little tech metal festival that
like haken Wood headline in Reading or Guildford or wherever
it was and suddenly it's in Manchester and what they
under it feels super just sort of homegrown, you know,
natural organic growth. Yeah, it's really nice that. I don't

(26:43):
know the case scope bands have a have a festival,
they can play again, like the Pineapple Thief fucking as
soon as tech Fest ended, where were they playing?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Protest here being back you know like that that they're
always really fine live that that's a cool booking again.
Pineapple Faith there one of those ones that they passed
me by. But Animals as leaders as your top build
band with like a returning process here, I think that
if you're into that sort of thing, it's a really
strong kind of first wave.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, let's move over to the other side of the
Atlantic for something that I guess yes, we just have
to kind of discuss even though you know none of
us are going to go, but just as a as
a poster, it's bizarre. Hawthorn Heights not very off in
this band and can get too us head. Suppose they
are doing a twentieth anniversary tour next year for that
album If Only You Were Lonely. It's an album I've

(27:29):
never heard of in my life? Do we have any
interest in if only you were lonely by Hawthorne Heights here.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
So the insane thing about this is is I know
one Hawthorne Heights song like like that most people know,
ohio as for lovers, that is a bang. I'll give
them that. This isn't even the album with that song
on it. That blew my mind. I was like, hang on, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait, I was like because I was like, oh,
they're doing that album in full fine, No, people who
like that song probably like a couple other songs off

(27:56):
that album Court and then what was another Animal was like,
there's an other album that hawforne Lights fans want to see.
If I don't believe that that's not real, well, they
want to see it so much that the support bill
for this US tour. The reason we're talking about this
is Let Live and Creeper, which just immediately right for
obviously for anyone who has you know, been following those

(28:17):
two bands for approaching a decade or whatever, me it
just makes you go, why do once a decade we
have to have a repeat of the pierce the Veil
at Bridge to the Academy with Let Live and Creeper,
where those two you know, beloved great bands have to
support some GoF Why is that like a repeating occurrence

(28:38):
like fucking penny Wise emerging from the sewers every like?
Why is that once a decade thing that happens that
let limn Creeper are contractually oblige to go around together
for some shit to go on after them. I mean
my take revis I was like, oh, well, let Live
are about to break up again. Last time this happened,
let Live then broke up, So is this really about

(29:01):
to end after this?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
So I'd fall over all my mates if I had
to watch fucking Horthorne Heights every night.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
But anyone in.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
America who really wants the letter than Creeper along with
that that you are able to do so next year also,
let's keep it moving. A perfect Circle have announced their
first UK and European performances in seven years. Next year
they are going to be doing two nights at Bricks
and Academy in London before then going around the rest
of Europe. So they return of a perfect circle for

(29:32):
everyone who's been waiting on ten to hooks to see
then again the Foo fighters over in America again Anno.
It's a really big American North American tour with Queens
of the Stone Age. So it's nice to see, you know,
obviously the longtime collaborators of Josh Hommy and Dave Grohl
paling it up together again on a big tour. But
they're taking out Mannequin Pussy and gouge Away with them,
which gouge Away in particular, that is a pretty like

(29:57):
caustic band to be opening what is it ume stadiums
for the Foo Fighters, So good for them in particular.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, like that, you know, that's two bands I see
play Outbreak and they're going to be in stadiums with
the Food Fighters. That's kind of that's kind of crazy,
but like it's really.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Cool for both of them.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, Iron Maiden are going to be continuing their Run
for Your Lives touring cycle. They have announced North American
dates that are going to be happening in August and
September of next year, and the support bill right considering
we here got Hailstorm and the raven Age, and let
it be known, Hailstorm weren't even on every date. I

(30:33):
went to two of those shows in the UK and
I only saw a hailstorm at one of them. North
America gets Mega Death and Anthrax, two actual seminal legendary
heritage metal bands in their own right. What the fuck
we got hailstorm at one show, still in.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Time for the raven age to get added. Don't worry, parents, Yeah,
the only way you can.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Make this barrier is to have the raven age of
opening up for them.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
But what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
UK getting shafted on big stadium tours is kind of
like a tailor's old time at this point. But yeah,
this is like you'd have a great night at that
even with Megadeth on there, you'd have a great night.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, if you would plays David Mustain with Austin
Dickinson much better.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Now, well, let's stay on Megadeth, I suppose, because this
is another story where we're gonna have a bit more
of a discussion because there was much sort of you know,
chin stroking this week, weighing up some teaser hints and
whatnot that had been dropped, and now it has been
confirmed Megadeth's final album that we of course know is

(31:37):
going to be out next year. We heard the single
Tipping Point that came out a while ago.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's been a bit of a.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Trend for the last several Megadath albums to feature a
cover on it. I don't know why, it just kind
of happened. The cover that is going to be on
the final Megadeth album. Dave Mustaine said before it was
fully confirmed, we're doing a cover, but it's a song
that I wrote, and so every one goes, oh, we're
doing an old Metallica.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Song, aren't we?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
And yes, Ride the Lightning by Metallica is going to
feature on the final Megadeth album. And of all sort
of you know, announcements of covers, this one is. It's
bigger than just will the cover be good or bad
or not right, Because we can get excited about bands
doing covers if it's a cool pairing whatever. This isn't

(32:24):
really about that. This is about the act itself of
Megadeath finally on their final album covering an early Metallica
song that Dave has said been very vocal over the
years that he had a very large part in writing
The absolute Hoot's part of it is one of those

(32:46):
things that I don't know how much we should be
kind of applauding or gufforing at this.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I'm both I think it is a great bitch shit house.
This is like you're losing six nil, you score one, God,
and then you start shaying you didn't beat me, like
the loading of like I won in the end, I
covered right the lightning on our final album, you didn't
beat me Metallica.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Like I am my own, I'm owned.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, I've long held thing like Dave Muslin is one
of metals most gotten two men, and this is kind
of like proving that, but in a way that is
kind of like kind of admirable and kind of like
you've held onto this grudge for so long that your
final parting statement, the final recorded output of Meganef will
be a Metallica cover. That is like the long game,

(33:39):
and I kind of have to admire that level of
bit of pettiness and shit housery is so.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Mad, Like we've just gotten almost recently, in the last
decade or two gotten past the whole of Dave Mustin
talks about fucking Metallic all the time.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Megadeath are sort of on their own. They're no longer
that associated with Metallica, so that literally the final stretch
to be like, oh no, actually it's still all about Metallica.
It's so so weird. Do I love it as a statement?
And do I love that that's how Mega Death's career
is going to end? Absolutely? Do I ever want to

(34:18):
listen to it? Nope, exists.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, you know, like I said, whether it would be
about the cover being good or not, it's kind of
besides the point at you know, prime that prime Megadeth.
If this had happened when you know Dave was at
his most salty and most coked up, then yeah, I
can imagine Megadeth in the eight he's doing a ripsnort
in ride the Lightning cover. I mean, I personally prefer
mechanics of the four Horsemen out of those two versions,
so I can see how it would work. Nowadays, we

(34:44):
all know what it's gonna be, right, it's gonna be you.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Know, flesh my eyes and what it is.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
But about the move, Dave put out an interesting kind
of statement along with this, and where he managed to
actually gloss it up in a very savvy kind of
way where he talks about it kind of closing the
circle and come in full circum terms of where he
started and then when he ended, and in a way
I mean the way he described it, it's more like

(35:10):
kind of permanently seiling off the sort of conflict or whatever, like, hey,
I respect Metallica, we made great stuff together. Here is
and again for the final album. It is of course
sort of bringing Dave's career full circle to go back
to where he started with Metallica, and by phrasing in
that way, he does an incredible pr move by making

(35:33):
a sort of you know, associated with that rather than
what everyone's response upon seeing the headline is, which was
what we've just said. What an absolute insane salty.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Move to.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
In some way associate your final closing parting shot of
your career, which should be all about celebrating forty plus
years whatever of Megadeth, one of the greatest metal bands
that have ever walked the planet, with or without association
to Metallica. To make people only think about Metallica in
that last moment is I can totally see the argument

(36:08):
of how it is shooting yourself in the foot, But
just for how Meganeth have been, you know, over those
forty years, it's it's both the totally right and completely
wrong thing, Like it is genuinely both things at once.
In terms of Dave's motivation. I can imagine it being
both things at once. It is him trying to reclaim
this old song that he was heavily involved in writing

(36:31):
much of that was then taken away from him, as
much as it is this completely petty, bitter move that
it's it is, whether it's a good move or not,
it is poetic in just like Yep. Obviously, Meganeth are
going to end with some weird bartalization of Metallica, the
same way their first album has Said featured a reclamation

(36:54):
of a Metallica Dave Mustain written soul, I do.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Like okay, You've You've told me.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I think.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's so rare that you get a final a final
song from a band and it be that poetic and
be that sort of full circle. I'm on board, no bucket.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
And most importantly, ry the Lightning does also sound like
it could be a UK TV game.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Show, so the theme is still there.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
That the Bushred sounds like that as well.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Would that just be a game show of playing guitar
Hero which would be pretty sweet, but yeah, insane news
from Megadeth still also some pretty big news here. Children
of Bodom, the surviving members of have announced that in
twenty twenty six, they are going to be reuniting for
a show in Helsinki, as of course, an Alexei LeHo

(37:49):
tribute show. And I wasn't shocked by this news because
I feel like I've heard the other members the George
of Bodom, so I've heard this floating around maybe like
that something like this could occur, and it hasn't. You know,
this is an announcement of hello, we are like Bodhom
after Midnight, a back or whatever. We're touring as this
and all that stuff, which would be a different matter.

(38:10):
But I wasn't surprised by the news of a, at
least right now, a tribute show. Mark, You're also a
big Bodom fan, so what's your take on this news.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I think as long as it stays a very sort
of separate from a distance tribute thing, I'm not too
fast about it existing. I'm sure it would be good fun.
It is odd because so much of Children of Boddom
was Alexe Leo. He wrote most of the songs, he

(38:42):
was the focal point, he was the frontman, he was
a showman. I barely know anything else about the other
members of Children at Bottom like and I love that band,
So I don't know, as a one off thing, Joe,
that's nice, lovely and if it becomes a thing where,
you know, five times every couple of years they'll play

(39:04):
the festival circuit, sure, why not. I'm sure if it
was in front of me, I'd have a nice time.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'm sure that's still pretty palty good in fairness, And yeah,
obviously you know, for in Finland, a hometown crowd, I
bet like that shit is fucking like religious experience to
a lot of that audience. But yeah, keep tabs. I
suppose on that Employed to Serve have announced that they
have got a UK tour in twenty twenty six, but
they're avoiding a lot of the kind of most heavily
played city so you won't see a London date here,

(39:30):
or a Manchester date Bristol, et cetera. They are going
to be hitting up places like Norwich and Milton Keynes
and Shipley. I genuinely don't even know where Shipley is,
so apologies to the population of Shipley. But if you
will living Shipley then you can see Employed to Serve
next year. And they're bringing Cage Fight with them as support,
so yeah, cool tour happening there. This is a public
service announcement that Relapsed Records have reissued the entire catalog

(39:52):
of the influential eighties Japanese hardcore band lip Cream. The
Japanese hardcore scene from kind of the eighties is one
of these day that particularly every time we've done like
a hardcore band special like Nails for example, was a
big one. All site of these bands like Bustard and
lip Cream and Jishm and whatnot as like influences, but
a lot of that stuff has been really hard to
like just track down because it hasn't been so readily available.

(40:17):
But this is one of these bands, lip Cream. Relapse
have reissued everything, which means it's now all on streaming services.
So if you want to go and just like have
a dive into some like really crazy, violent, fast eighties
Japanese hardcore from an influential band that you probably don't know,
a lot of the music from all of the lip
Cream stuff is down there and available. I'd maybe, seeing
as it's Halloween, I would maybe recommend their nine Shocks

(40:38):
of Terror EP, which would be a nice little twelve
minutes or so to you off. But that is all
out there and final news story we have left my
favorite till last. An Illinois man this week was arrested
for publicly impersonating none other than former Van Halen singer

(40:59):
Sammy Hagen.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
I love any news story that begins with like American
City Man. It's always they're good, like always a good time.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Have you seen the mugshot of this man?

Speaker 4 (41:12):
That's why I just laughed at like.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
This is so fucking good. So apparently this guy whose
name is something Putnam, which obviously, immediately as I'm reading
Putnam says makes me think about seth. But he entered
several establishments, including two banks and a vape shop, which
is already good. He tried to open accounts in these

(41:39):
places under the name Sammy Hagar Enterprises LLC, when at
one point someone asked him to prove he is in
fact Sammy Hagar. He is opposed to have sung an
a cappella version of the Sammy Hacar song I Can't
Drive fifty five. Now, I don't know that much about

(41:59):
Sammy Hagar's music. We have someone here who does, mark
I could you sing on command an a cappella version
of I Can't Drive fifty five? To reassure people that
if you were impersonating Sammy Hagar, you are him.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
The chorus is yeah, the verses. If he's doing the
verses good like Jesus Christ. That's a deep pool, even
from a big Sammy Hagar fan like myself.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
And then he was arrested after presenting an ID card
that read Sammy Hagar Rock Gods, which is like kloving levels.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Of incredible fake idea. What what?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
What a story? Who are you impersonate? If you were
going to go on a crime bender, who do you
do you think you could most get away with?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Oh? God, Sammy Hagar?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Did you see the quote from like one of the
people who won the bank tell us whatever? It was
like he smelled like Margarita Mix. I was like, yeah,
it's probably.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, Mark this one. You've told me.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
There's someone who People have come up to you multiple
times and said, are you X person?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Who is that? I can't remember? Oh my god, the
book from Louth Oh the guitarist right Sea.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, yeah, I have multiple times, not people asking if
I am him, but people saying I look like j
Mascus from the.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Oh yeah, I think I was thinking of yeah, which
basically just means.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
I'm a man with long hair and glasses and a beard,
a flannel.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
You all look the same. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
But if I see a new story that someone has
been walking around vape shops in Glasgow presenting fake IDs
saying j maskis enterprises, I know exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Who will have been committing these X.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Could I just add to this, like you messaged me
beforehands in, We've got some insane Sammy Hagar and news,
and I, having seen the Arena tour, well thought, oh yeah,
that is pretty insane. I'm glad, Glad parents aren't it
into the script? Glad he's talking about it. I have
no idea idea about this story until this morning.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
What's the Arena tour?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I think I saw that and scroll past it because
I was more interested in crime.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
It's just, you know, Sammy Hagar, he's playing his own
solo hits and Van Halen songs and he's playing arenas
across the UK with John Jett and support.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Wouldn't it be amazing if you went along to that
tour and turned up and the guy on stage was
this man?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
How do we know?

Speaker 4 (44:30):
It's he's still getting away with it.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's like the threatening of fucking hair met person.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
He passed the Margarita sniff test.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I don't know what to do exactly, so a very
strong contender for Best Story of the Year, right. That's
like I said, was not a news there, But we
are now going to get into some questions returning. He
came from the That's the group on Facebook as well
as the That's the Metal discord for our Patreon supporters.
I did ask because this episode's going out on Halloween.

(45:02):
I asked for people to kind of theme them and
make them a little spooky horror centric. So we are
going to focus on those ones. If you ask something else,
we might get around to answering it next week or so.
But let's dive into these ones. And first off, Andy
Paine is going to kick us off saying, if you
could pick a modern day version of Freddie versus Jason,
who would you pick? And then also who would you

(45:24):
pick on the soundtrack? Which, to be honest, I haven't
really thought about that, but I generally just thought about
re enacting. I'm going to presume the intention of the
question is like picking two more recent modern kind of
horror figures and putting them against each other. And I
don't know, Andy, if you are a listener to the
T ANDM does horror kind of side podcast we do
on the Patreon back.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You might have gone the exact same route as I
have here. Let's wait, Yeah, because this.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Has actually been something every few episodes, maybe it might
be a recurring bit of discussing this part. Although only
one of them has been nailed down, and I think
we've changed the other one a few times. But the
best character from anything in the last few years to
put forward for something like this, Sam, you and I
I'm sure both agree, is Gabriel from Malignant.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yeah, it has to be Gabriel from Malignant. That was
my That's it number one first draft exactly. We need
more Gabriel. We need to cut out the cancer, we
need to throw chairs, we need all of this.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
So absolutely I agree that the very third thing I
thought of is Gabriel versus someone who is your second pick? Though,
who do you pick Gabriel against?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
I mean, because this a literation or just because it's
been on my mind so much, but I have gone
Gabriel versus.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Glad me too, Me too.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Which let's just say this is a spoiler for anyone
who might not have seen weapons. We won't go to
detail necessary about you know who that is, but I
thought the exact same thing. They're like the camp icons
of Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
That's exactly it, like go high camp with it.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
And I think Gabriel could have some real fun doing
like wrestling moves, throwing chairs at like armies of control
old woman.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Well, I was thinking if she's utilizing powers, let's say
she's gonna set the kids on him, So there's gonna
be an army of controlled you know, child soldiers as
we have running around in parts of weapons, and Gabriel
is gonna be like fucking wrestling move matrix eating them,
which is just perfect. I also think about you know,

(47:24):
obviously you've got like Gabriel versus Long Legs. Maybe Gabriel
versus Maxine Megan I think would come up a lot,
although I'm Megan, I think you would be best, say
for like a shorty face off of versus Chucky or
like Leprecorn or something. But Gabriel versus Gladys I'm I'm
glad We're totally on the same page here. That's exactly
who it has to be.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
It just made so much sense to me in terms
of like those who have been like my like horror
like icons that I adore in love from the sort
of last few years, and there's like Peter MAASV would
be just so stupid, so ridiculous, and you can have
so much fun with it, like say, Gabriel doing is
that weird and toyed backwards movement against over controlled people.
It would rock so hard. And in terms of soundtrack,

(48:08):
I mean for the US shows obviously had that new
metal and kind of milkcore kind of crossover soundtrack. I
don't know, like because how do you pick some of
that suits Some like like Gabriel Versus Gladness, they don't
necessarily have as.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, it's malignant, I think still of all the movies
to come out in recent years, Malignant still fits that
sort of Maybe you'd update it too, I mean obviously
not the most up to date now, but bands like
Code Orange and whatnot who have that new metal edge.
I think, Yeah, the malignant, new metal horror energy is
definitely in there.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
But then weapons guys like like sixties and like just
like pop sort of stuff like you can do something
like that, but yeah, give us.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Gave youel versus. Yes, let's just keep ripping here. I
like that.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I like the idea that and this is purely because weapons.
Is it like George Harrison as a couple sort of
like sixty seventy style songs, Yeah, that are in. I
mean like if we want to go from our old
we could soundtrack Gladys with bands like Jess and the
Ancient Ones and whatnot that are very like you know,
I see it. I see the halloweeny cooky, you know,

(49:11):
psych rock type stuff. And then Gabriel can be the
more like new metal floor filler, hard arms, way.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Coche range, that sort of stuff that real harsh like that.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
And then they can have like an houral battle of
those two.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
It's a genius. I mean, Mark, I.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Hope that you've seen weapons for one thing, because otherwise
you're like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Standard Diva.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Don't worry absolutely. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
There's I think pretty perfect pitch old on.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I've got a couple of good ones. I think I'm
gonna take Megan Regan, put her against Annabelle. Yeah, you've
got two dolls, one of these technological, one of them
spooker ups, spooker naturals.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I mean, it's true, you're not wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I feel the cent track was slightly patronizing, like girl
boss anthems like yeah yeah and fuck it the beach
that makes you old versus the.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Meg but immediately turns it back into a fossil. I
like that good bit. Yeah, so a lot of fun there.
Tom Fellow's Hollcraft asks what is the most atmospheric show
you've been to where everything just fit together perfectly? For example,
I saw zeal And Ards are playing all converted church
in front of huge stained glass windows, and the merch

(50:33):
stoor was littered with skulls and candles to add to
the atmosphere. This is one where like, I am desperate
to go to some of these, particularly, I mean the
countries of Norway and Sweden seem to get all the
best ones because all of those you know, black metal
events and fests and whatnot over there. I'm desperate to
go to one of those shows of like wat Ain

(50:53):
playing in a fucking emptied out quarry at sunset or
in the crypt under you know, beyond the gates veester
of where I might be. So those are like the
ones I like, I aspire to go to some of those.
The closest I have come. The one that always comes
to mind for me was when I went to Netherlands Deathfest,
which was in the where Roadburn takes place, the thirteen

(51:15):
Papodium there and seeing Emperor for one thing, in that
incredible looking venue was really wonderful. Also I got to
see bands like Skinless and like None Slaughter and stuff
like on this really big stage. But then particularly across
the road from that venue, there's another one which I
think is closed down now, so this is a piece
of history. Now, there was a venue called the Heppatronat

(51:36):
which was like a converted church, and in that venue
I saw, I mean, the two bands that spring to
mind that I saw in there was I saw Profanataka
in there. No come on the Merchdwan from what I remember,
but seeing that band, you know, you know, it just
writes itself, doesn't it. And also Evoken the Funeral Doom band,
and they were just like suffocattingly heavy again in this

(51:56):
wonderful converted church type venues.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
So that is the.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Closest I've got to this. I think my hope is
to within the next few years better that.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah, I'm kind of the same, I mean, me being
into like hardcore milks you don't know it, tendo atmospheret shows.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Not really the type of shows I go to aren't
very atmospheric, but if you want to talk about sort
of like the atmospheres of a certain style of music
in the show perfectly fitting in. Think I would do
a glass call hard corcial once and watch someone throw
up on themselves. Good.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, I think that's valid.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I think, you know, if you know, you don't have
to kind of do and obviously we're doing this has
Halloween sort of thing, so you naturally go to spooky
crips churches and whatnot. But I think, you know, I
particularly like, oh, this is a fucking sweat box hardcore
venue where you know history has occurred here. I think
that is also apt.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
I mean, yeah, I can probably say there's a bunch
of them, but like they're kind of like I mean,
right now, the most woman say is watching how You
Wire under a bridge where like there.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You go fireworks into the crowd.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
That that that did feel the kind of like amateurally
perfecting of just like this is the anarchy and kind
of like free spirited violence and kind of like expression
that you want from hardicle where they like say, there
are makeshift flamethrowers, there's a garden motorbike doing sort of
doughnuts around the and firewar was going off. That shit
was insane.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, I mean, I'm stunned you didn't say that first
of all, because that was a perfect answer.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I was thinking, like.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Pure hat spooky atmosphere, and then you said that. I
was like, no, that isn't it okay?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
But even like Mark, even just like a few weeks ago,
seeing Blood Incantation with you know, Sigeon and whatnot in
the Albert Hall in Manchester, which does have like stained
glass and shit really cool.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
No, yeah, especially Sigjeon not so much as funny as
it was to see them, but some of the majesty
of Blood Incantation did feel really really special in a
weird way.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, Baron, Jim Bowen asks, And this is a question
that is perfect for this episode because this is of
course the greatest Halloween band of all the Halloween bands
that exist, So this is the day to talk about them.
What are your favorite Misfits albums? Slash Collections stack Age
is the only album I do regularly, but I will
put the complete box on shuffle we are talking here
about one of the bands who probably if I were

(54:05):
to track the last fifteen years of my life, what
is the band that I have like most consistently constantly
listened to throughout that whole time. There's a solid chance
that the Misfits would be my number one, because every
I mean, I love everything up to and through famous Monsters,
Like that's just for me. That's like one of the

(54:26):
best bands it to have ever been, particularly if we
were to focus in on the Danzig era stuff from
like you know, seventy seven, seventy eight whatever up through
eight three, eighty four, everything there, I have three.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Perfect albums, and then like all the other yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Everything from you know, debut single cough Cool, which is
one of the weirdest fucking things you can imagine to
be their debut single.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
That keyboard line, Yeah, all the way right.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Through to like who killed Marilyn whatever, and all of
that is not just like, oh, it's all good, but like,
all of that, in my eyes, is essential. So picking
favorite out of this is very hard also because, like
you just said, Sam, three perfect technical full length albums,
but there's so much other shit, and there's so many
different versions of things. Like that there's like the you know,

(55:14):
the twelve Hits from Hell kind of abandoned studio album
they recorded, and then those kind of versions pop up
and all these other records. It's the thing that makes
a Misfit special really daunting, even though I would love
to do it because like they're one of my absolute
favorite bands of all time, but like really hard. So
if I was to pick a favorite album, I think
I would say static Age. But honestly, absolutely everything from

(55:38):
the classic years is in my eyes a valid answer
essentially to the question I did have, like when I
was first getting into the Misfits, one of them, I
suppose the particular records that was important to me was,
I think this is true for a lot of people,
the Collection one, the one with that the Yellow Skull,
and it's kind of like a best of and it
doesn't even have like a load of their best songs,

(55:59):
like last Kreest isn't on that, which is fucking mental,
but like it's just you know, Cherry picked lots of
stuff from the kind of Danzig years. That and static
Age would probably be the ones that were most sort
of formative for me.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
I suppose, yeah, I would say Collection one, and then
for me, if I had to say an actual album.
Though I'm a hardcore person, I like it when bands
play hard and fast earth a D, earth Ad Wolf's
Blood like yeah, like I know it hasn't got as
many of the actual like classic songs, but when you're
kicking off of earth Ad into Queen Wasp, I just

(56:32):
want to like bulldoze down and building and run for
a million walls whilst just as a skeleton it is
like the perfect Halloween hardcore record is like fifteen minutes
long unless you go for the you know, the extended
version which adds in Didie My Darling banger. It's just
you can't fuck with it. Those those, like I said,
the three Proper Dancing albums, they're all perfect. There isn't
a wrong answer to pick one of them. But just

(56:55):
because of like being hard, it's got to be earth
A D.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, I mean, even like obviously you know saying this
because because of the day, but like Halloween, the song,
it's got to be. I mean, it's got to be
maybe one of their most covered songs, maybe just behind
Hybrid Moments, but like that's not on one of the albums.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
It's not on an album like it's it's I.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Think it was meant to be part of the twelve
Hits from Hell thing, and then it's sort of.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
There isn't on an album, probably is it as a
B side.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It's like some of the most essential Misfit songs are
not either They're not where you think they would be,
which makes, like I said, makes it very hard to
like actually pick favorite records and records in the world
because it's just kind of you just need everything from.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
That particular period.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
But yeah, if I pick one for me, it would
be the Static Age album.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I know that you're not like a Misfits obsessive, but
you must have a few favorite songs.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah. My relationship to the Misfits is mainly just like
I listened to what's in front of me. I'll bung
up a big playlist and just to have a nice
time for half an hour with whatever the half of
Misfits songs they throw at me. Sam's a hardcore person.
I am a Ramon's slash nineteen fifties person. So I
love Famous Monsters.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I thought you would. I love the.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Sheen of it. It's got more of a pop full
because it's really it's just it's great, you know, anthemic
punk songs, but it's also got this real lovely nostalgic
nineteen fifties quality to it. Basically, my answer to this
question is anywhere Saturday Nighties. That's my favorite Misfits thing.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, very very reasonable. Tom Reid asks which horror genres
are you generally less interested in?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Eg?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I'm not that into zombies. I find this question hard
because I really like go I mean similarly to maybe
you know, however you metal in a way, but even
more so, I'm a very holistic horror fan. I will
I think every sort of if we're describing this going
to sort of like subgenres of it or archetypes or whatever,

(58:51):
there aren't any that I explicitly like disavow or bounce
off of. I think horror fundamentally is again it's about
kind of get inside your subconscious and what can maybe
be brought out and sort of reflected back at you.
And I think every you can interpret vampires and zombies,
and you know, you can do things with foul footage

(59:12):
or fucking paranor jump scare movies or whatever it might
be in ways that are compelling. But I suppose if
there are some particular ones where you just go, oh,
maybe like that one a little bit less or particular
trends or whatever. What are our areas of horror that
we just go, oh, that's not so much my my jive.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I mean, it probably would land on the sort of
the paranormal sort of jumpscar movie. Again. I've kind of
softened on some of that more recently with like coming
round to the conjuring movies, But that that particular boom
when it was no insidious paranoractivity of the country and
I was like, I was like, oh, I'm so not
into what's going on in the major horror right now,
so tuned out of that, and now I'm gonna like
it has its place. So that's like, that was my

(59:50):
first one I jumped to. Otherwise, like there wasn't much
else work. I could kind of go, like, that's just
a blanket. I don't like that type of horror movie
because there's whatever sort of horrifying there's gonna be movies.
I like. It's like, but that would probably be my
pick for You've got to be really special for you
doing the sort of haunting like the paranormal jump scare thing,
you're doing that, You've got to be on your A
game for me to care.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, Mark, I know that I'm just going off this
question here. I know that you with zombies, for example,
not necessarily your one hundred percent your your bag at times.
But you can come around a little bit lately, haven't you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah, that's the thing with questions like this is there's things.
I'm not really a big zombie fan, like you say,
but there are exceptions. There's exceptions in almost everything, Like
I love twenty eight Days Later, all the twenty eight movies.
Basically I revisited The Living Dead and I finally like
it because good rocks, Like there was great zombie stuff

(01:00:47):
out there. Really, I should revisit a lot more because,
like you say, for like a decade, I was just like,
I don't really get zombies. It's just like a lot
of the same type of stories being told over and
over again, as if that isn't true of a lot
of ghost stories that I love. Yeah, what's I don't
really like splatter?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Oh yeah, you're not a gorehound.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
I'm not a gorehound. I don't really like this sort
of the what's that guy? You love herschel Lewis your
favor guy, the Master of Ceremonies that like, I'm not
into that. And also yeah, I'm sorry to the people
with Italy, but Giallo can fuck off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
One day, one day, one day, we'll get you. I
mean yeah, because I said every sort of you know, creature,
whatever may be there are, there are classics of every
form I think. So I've written down more sort of
series of like micro just trends and features and whatnot
that I don't even necessarily hate these things, but they
are things that I maybe gravitate less too, and I uh,

(01:01:54):
you know, I am probably less able to go along
with a particular wave of hype or whatnot that comes
with these things. I love my like sort of like
classic nineteen eighties and whatnot style slashers. But in the
twenty twenties we've gotten more of these like cute see
please with themselves, ones that like whether they be kind
of streaming movies or like the big studio like you know,

(01:02:16):
sort of veried sort of safe style slashers, but like
the what if ex premise or from another movie or
like holiday or whatever. In the modern era was like
a slasher with ATTACKI comedic edge, Like I don't mind,
like The Happy Death Days and Freaky which started that trend,
but I stopped watching all the later ones. The modern
trend of movies that are essentially like just gross out

(01:02:37):
exploitation movies but act like they're like really above it,
and like they act like they're all about trauma and
deep feelings and whatnot, and they end up being essentially
kind of empty or just like nihilistically sort of fatalistic
on the matter. I would so two very different examples
of what these things are, but I think they both apply.
The Smile movies and what the Philippoop Brothers do. I

(01:02:57):
think both kind of fall into that else obviously. I mean,
I'll go and see it, and there are good ones,
but the Blumhouse slop stuff, even though some of it
is quite funny, Like I liked Night Swim more than
almost anyone else in the world just because it was
so absurd. Feature length movies that feel like they should
just be left as VHS shorts, allah Late Night with
the Devil, lor obsessed emptiness for like, you know, sort

(01:03:21):
of that gen Z style of horror, like Terrifier and
five Nights of Phrase and what the words, like what
are we doing here? Like why are we really like
spinning our wheels about this particular story when it is
nothing and not the stuff that kind of got involuntarily
tagged as elevated horror, like you know, Robert Eggers, Jordan Peel, whatever,
but the stuff that's kind of now come after and
feels like it's only influenced like that. Like I was

(01:03:43):
thinking about this when I saw that movie together recently,
and it's like, that's a kind of it's a body
horror movie, but it's just entirely about like what if
we just had subtext as text? The entire movie is
one metaphor and you can just see exactly what's doing
from frame one. Those, like I said, are not not
for movies I hate, but to sort of things that
maybe stop me getting excited about stuff like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Adding on to this sort of like modern trends, the
public domain slop.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Oh yeah, that been that off entirely.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I haven't even watched any of those because what's the point.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Yeah, I watched like two of them, was yeah, I
can't be bothered with this anymore. That you had the
what like tiny thing of a core idea is there?
You've just gone the most lazy Soulos route with it. Yeah,
been that off.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Yeah, but all the things I mentioned I will at
least give a kind of a fair try, because again,
to answer the question, I don't think there is like
a sub genre or an archetype or something that I
just reject and go, no, that's bad, because I think
the best way to be a horror fan is just
to kind of find you know, find joy everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah, you know, just who are the Phillipple brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
So they did talk to me, and then this year
they did bring her back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
And I'm also Deaf Match Wrestlers like and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Also Death Match Wrestler for some reason. Yeah, and I
think both those movies are okay but with problems.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Okay, I haven't seen neither of them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah, I don't know if you'd like them, but anyway, Yeah,
there you go, right. Chrome Mode asks excluding countries where
English is the first language, which country has the best
horror movies? Like I said, I try to be very
holistic about this stuff. I think anyone who is into
horror but refuses to watch movies if they're not in
English and only watches the American remakes of foreign horror movies,
those people are genuine posers and that's a good application

(01:05:21):
of that word, I think, and I will. I'll seek
out stuff from wherever it might be. But I think
when it comes down to it again, discounting places where
English is the first language, I think objectively, this has
to come down to Japan versus Italy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Yes, I was about say two countries and Japan and Italy. Yeah,
I feel like obviously both haven't don't have the output
now that they once did. But if you look at
the sort of like turn of the millennium, Japanese horror
is like some of the scariest shit you can watch,
and then that sort of like sixties through to eighties
Italian horror, you know, bather our Gento Faulci like absolute

(01:06:01):
geniuses at work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah, like this is where we can win back some
of the favor that Mark Crully lost for us there.
But like I said, I mean, even if you discount
what Germany was doing in like the nineteen twenties, you know,
like we did up our hard Nocerati episode, and it's
like that's an entire like they were the most important
country in the world when it came to horror cinema
at that point in time. But in terms of a

(01:06:25):
bountiful amount of like really important stuff. Like I said,
I think I've done to Japan and Italy, and it's
I think, my head says Japan because the longevity, you know,
like they have going back to fucking the fifties and
sixties or whatever, like Japan was doing really really out
there and classic.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Stuff, vintage ghost stories, yeah Baba and stuff like that
are like unbelievably atmospheric in a way that you're just
going to go out, how the fuck did they do that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Even if you want to factor in the Kaiju stuff,
right and like Godzilla and that whole real stuff, and
then all the way through to like we said, the
you know, up to into the twenty first century, My
head says Japan. My heart says Italy because that sixties
through I was say, the early nineties, like up to
about sort of cemetery man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Cemetery man, yeah, cut it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
That is I think if if I was to go
which if you take one of these away from me,
and I'd be the most upset. I can never watch
it again. I think I would hold onto the Italian stuff.
But like I said, head wise, logically for the longevity
and again the sheer amount of incredible Japanese horor movies
every year. Japan is also a shout mark you're going
to pick Japan obviously obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Oh my god, it's fair, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I like some Italian I like I've come round on
my pal Mario Bava, like some of I like the
one that's basically Star Trek and doctor who what's that one?
Find it of vampires?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Yeah, that Blu Ray just here get that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
But like, yeah, just when you consider the past of
Japan like Kaidan and stuff like, yeah, it's it's I
love ghost stories and Japan has some of the scariest
just most effect in ghost stories.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah, I think Japan probably is the right answer. But
also I'm holding onto my argento and I do you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Want to throw in a bronze medal for France? Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah if you look at obviously the sort of new
French extremity thing, but also over like the last or
two years, I just have a thing where I'll go, like,
I'm want to watch a bunch of horny vampire movies
from Genrelin.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Yeah, they are like insane trips.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Fascination is these movies are like balancing act between beauty
and sleeves and like atmosphere and depth and complete exploitation garbage.
They are fascinating movies. They've all kind of become quite
readily available in the lastew years. And that's why I
think there's a sort of a crop of like horror
fans who just can like pick up and watch a
bunch of genrelin films every couple of months. But France

(01:08:50):
would be my bronze medal in this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah, and then you go back to you know, like
Lady Ablik and is of that face and stuff, and yeah,
today you've got like Julia Deck or No. So I
think I can I get in France as the bronze medalist.
I think for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
You know, you go Martyrs and those sort of that
those again, those sort of mid into twenty tens, like
fucked up extreme movies, Like France has got a real
pedaly for it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, but like I said, you know, Germany and Norway
and Thailand and Korea and Eastern Europe, there's play stuffering
from all over. Yeah, And final question for our particularly
you know horror themed Halloween hyperblast questions, where you know
we're talking about some stuff here that we might not
usually talk about. One hyperblasts, but I'm having fun. Alex Chillingworth,

(01:09:33):
Oh hello, Alex. Favorite horror adjacent filmmakers, as in Lars
von Trier doesn't really make horror films, but over half
of his work could be labeled as for reasons, Yeah,
there is that sort of there's a realm of like
Lars won Trier and like Gaspar Noe and like Michael Hanneka.
I think who could always sort of describe as almost

(01:09:53):
like discomfort cinema where it's not really horror, but it
kind of you watch it in a similar kind of mindset.
An obvious one is David Lynch, who is not sort
of you can't categorize him what he does strictly as horror,
but horror is obviously a huge part of the kind

(01:10:13):
of the proportion of the pie chart. I think David
Fincher is usually at his best when he lets some
horror in you know, Seven Zodiac, Gone Girl, even go
with Dragon Tatty, that kind of stuff. I would say
one of my favorite modern filmmakers falls into this with
Jonathan Glazer, who his you know, his last few movies
like Birth under the Skin, Zone, of interest. I think

(01:10:35):
the only one of those that you could maybe even
only halfway call like a horror movie, and you know
a genre sense is under the skin, but all of
them like he's part of the family as far as
I'm concerned in terms of the the atmosphere and the
ability to innately horrify.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Right, yeah, I think, And that's a good chat. I
think like lynchivis right for me. My mind went in
to Yogurs. Slam from Us is like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, good chap.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Yeah, massively not necessarily horror movies, but that discomfort, that
unsettling sort of vibe, that's just a weird feeling that
you get from his movies where you like, has this
guy ever spoken to another human being in a normal way?
He just like it is. It's odd and disconcerning, and
I really do dig that vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yeah, I mean, like Poor Things is like the mainstream
hit out of his last several movies, but it's it's Frankenstein, right,
It's a Frankenstein story, and it's full of like you know,
Victorian era gothic mad science ship.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Then you get, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
His movies are odd kinds of kindness and Kalim sacred
here that are just really weird, uncomfortable movies.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Yeah, it's interesting. My brain almost went the opposite direction
where I was. Basically, I started from the starting point
of who are my favorite directors? Remove all the horror ones,
and I was thinking, like, you can make the case
for people like, well, actually do these people like Henry
Selick or how You're Miazaki?

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Oh Zaki is a good shout. There is horror fem.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Lots of ghouls and monsters and different like crazy stuff.
None of them I would really consider horror movies, but
there is horrifying things in all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Similarly, I think you could say like Bond, June Hope,
I think count. I think like Parasite and Memories of
murder and stuff are like part way into horror movies.
Ditto Park cham Wuk partri.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Because frillers always have that kind of like slight yaway,
but then some of them do go that step further.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Yeah, I maybe he would count as a horror director.
I'm not sure, but I up until a point, there's
a very fine point. I'm a big Tim Burton fan, sure,
and he's obviously just so associated with horror, like he's
obsessed with Vincent Price, and that's obviously all his influences,
like B movie horror stuff, like that's just who he is,

(01:12:47):
and he loves gothic stuff and he's his movies are
about aliens and skeletons and headless horseman and like, but
I wouldn't necessarily call any of them like horror scary
horror movies.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yeah, and he thinks goth movies more than he does horror.
I think I like Sleepy Hollow as a horror movie,
but most of them are as say, sort of more
sort of like goth aesthetic movie, so maybe maybe he counts.
I thought about Paul Verhoven, who is sort of that
sort of you know, satirical genre thing, but there's a
real like dark bleakness in like RoboCop and Starship Troopers

(01:13:21):
and like even show Girls, you know, the sort of
grotesque in a way that is appeals to me as
a horror fan. The king of that obviously is John Waters, right,
who horror completely adopts John Waters, even though he's arguably
only really made a couple of like actual horror films,
But like he's he's just in because it's all horrific,
you know, I think ari Asta's destiny is to be this.

(01:13:41):
I think this is where we're gonna be talking about him,
because he he's got four movies out right, and two
of them, the first two are explicit horror movies, where
so he started in that genre, and so we talk
about him as one. But if you look at then
you know bo is afraid and then even more so
now Eddington. Yeah, I think I think it's his destiny
as a filmmaker to fall more into this camp of
like the horror adjacent people, even if they're not explicitly

(01:14:05):
doing horror more than he is. I think gonna stay
as like a horror darling.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Yeah, I had one of the one that popped into
my head was Alejandro Jodorowski is kind of again like
all right, yeah, surrealist, like weird psychedelic movies that have
elements of horror to them at times, just because like
some of that the free couch shit, but again, you
wouldn't necessarily call them explicitly horror movies. I was like,
I do love those movies and that they're weird and
freakish and discomforting, not necessarily hardh sweet again that kind

(01:14:33):
of vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Yeah, Yeah, my sort of equivalent more kind of you know,
film mere kind of shout was Emar Bergmann who the
Seventh Seal and Persona and Cries and Whispers and Arrow
of the Wolf and stuff. They all kind of have
big horror DNA in them, even if most of them
are not explicitly horror movies.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
That is the end of our Halloween question Time section
of nerding out over movies for a bit. If you
enjoyed that, then we do that kind of semi regularly
on the T and M does horror series on the
st Patreon. We're gonna be talking about Predator when the
new one comes out soon elsewhere on the Patreon. As
said a few times in recent weeks, right now, we
are working on our Nola Sludge Special. Just for the

(01:15:15):
last two days, I can just tell you I have
listened to so much Goat Hall and so much like
supertrit Ritual and Soilent Green and stuff. So that's going
to be the vibe going into the next part of
our Nola special talking about all of the big names
of the sludge genre in and around the state of Louisiana.
This part going into the twenty first century, So if

(01:15:35):
you want to hear that along with our first part
where we cover the kind of golden nineties years, then
that is over at patreon dot com. Slash that's start Metal.
Let's finally end this edition of Hyperblasts Halloween Hyperblasts with
the releases. Because we did reviews last time, We've got
a couple weeks of releases here to go, so I
am going to run through them now from last week.

(01:15:56):
We start off with Soulfly, who returned and put an
album Chama. It is. Obviously I don't know how many
Sulfi albums there are now, There are many, but always
worth checking in on one. The thing that stuck out
to me on this one is there's one track that
has guest appearances from Gabe from unto Others on it,
and on the same track the singer from the hardcore
band No Warning, which is a real like crossover I

(01:16:19):
did not imagine, but those two are there on the
same song. So good on MAT's Cavalier vaning A way
to bring those people together. Mammoth this is, of course,
was his name, Mammoth van Halen, where his name is
that guy? He's put out another record called The End.
Then there was a couple of albums from kind of
the you know, commercial popular metalcore and post hardcore side
of the genre. Day Seeker with Creature in the Black Night,

(01:16:40):
and Downswing with and Everything Was Dark in Your Pop
punk Realms. There's Action Adventure with an album called ever
After more sort of traditionally punk. There was Spiritual Cramp
with Rude, quite an album that got a lot of
buzz from where I sort of observed, at least with
the new Acacia Strain album which is called You Are
Safe from God Here and a Casha Strain seem really

(01:17:01):
like they always get really positive reactions being kind of
an old guard deathcore band who are so legitimately credible
in kind of particularly the hardcore world, and I always
sort of watch that and go good for you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Yeah, No, that they are so well regarded in that
sort of scene. Now everyone's kind of like has a
lot of respect and just kind of like again it's ways,
but a credibility in hardcore just seems to be at
an all time high. That they are, like of the
old guard, maybe the most critically acclaimed at this point,
like in terms of them just kind of like really
come around. So yeah, and it's it's just a really
good hard record, like definitely check out if you like

(01:17:34):
your Death Corps.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Yeah, so there was that also in much more sort
of proggy out their reign, there's the band Psychonaut with
an IWM called World Maker, and I think they're playing
Damnation where we will be like next weekend, So if
you are heading along there, you might be interesting about
that record. For all my Grave Pleasures fans out there
who have been following the different sort of things to
have popped up in sort of the out of the
you know, the after winds of that band. Alexei Key,

(01:17:58):
who is the guitarist, one of the guitarist of Gray Pleasures,
the one who is not in a Rumsey Pazuzu, he
has put out a solo record called Vaya Kuvia. So
it's all in Finnish and it's kind of like a
sort of you know, country rock type thing I suppose,
but you know, scandy style. So if you're interested in that,
that's out there. There was a whole load of EPs
as well that also came out last week. The surprise

(01:18:19):
drop one came from Rolo to Massi, who put out
an EP called in the Echo of All Dreams, I
haven't got around to listen to this yet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Any good.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Is wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Yeah, it's incredible. I love it. It ends on like
a really slow song at the end that builds and
I am addicted to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
It, sick.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I will find time for that soon. Elsewhere more metal core,
that was Cold Rain with Optimize out on Pure Noise Records,
as Heaven's Gate with a Heart Is a Heavy Burden,
the heavy gnarly UK sort of sludgee band Mastiff put
out for All the Dead Dreams. And there was another
surprise drop, I should say, from the post black metal
band Krallis, who put an EP called No Hope and

(01:18:59):
they are I just assume they're always surprised dropping something
every week.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
That's what Krelis do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
But we did mention them when we're reviewing the Agriculture
record that week, so there you go. They arrived just
on cue. Moving on to today's Halloween releases and we
start with of course, where else could it be on
this day? But Creeper returning with Sanguavore two Mistress of Death,
the sequel to their Sanguvore record that will of course
be in our final reviews bag of the year when

(01:19:23):
we get into that in November.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Then there's Avatar.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
With Don't Go in the Forest, and the album cover
for this features you know what's his name clown man
just sort of standing with a balloon, just in a
classic Pennywise pose. And I looked at that and there's
nothing else on the album cover and I just made
me go, what are you for? For all you might
want to say about eistein Kills or whatever, at least

(01:19:49):
there's some kind of life there and there's some kind
of imagination, whereas I generally I don't know what the
audience for Avatar and it's like, oh, look, he's just
doing a Pennywise is But that album's out if you
we want more credible old school death core legends than
Despised Icon are back with their first album in a
good like five or six years at this point, shadow Work.

(01:20:09):
And then to flip to newer side of the deathcore coin,
there's the band Spiked with a record called New World Killer.
Then from the UK there's the kind of I guess
they sort of describe themselves as doom punk band, which
Fever with another record all in all caps like Spikes
one was fever Eton. Then moving into hardcore we have
gum with Beneath the Wheel. Interesting record. I'm not quite

(01:20:31):
sure what this is going to be. I suppose is
the new chat Pile collaboration with Hayden Pedigo Record. So
that's kind of avant guard musician getting together with of
course the noise rock band Chatpile. They've got an album
together called in the Earth Again. And then to follow
that particular rabbit hole of nightmarish stuff, Primitive Man, one
of the heaviest bands in the world, have got an

(01:20:51):
album called Observance. Anna von Housewolf, the avant garde kind
of singer songwriter, has got an album called Iconoclasts here
in the UK on Church Road Records. Band who I've
seen live and they were an absolute nightmare believe in
nothing I've got now about called Rocks. I'm curiously I
guess if that kind of leads to anything more then
a band who I mentioned on the news as forming

(01:21:12):
a number of weeks ago. For all the grindcore fans
out there, particularly those who are a fan of the
band Gridlink, coming out of that kind of experimental grind
direction from that camp, there's the band Barren Path who
have the album out today called Grieving.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
UK death metal. This is a band I just heard.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Of here called grave Ghoul, which is a very classically
death metal name, but they've got an album called Gruesome
and Macabre, and I checked it out because the album
cover looks like a fault Chi poster, like fully Italian,
you know, euro krusty zombie kind of vibes, and I
thought this record was pretty pretty decent from what it
sounded like. It just sounds like, you know, pretty meaty
obviously if you like the band fault Chi, but like

(01:21:49):
it sounds, you know, pretty riffy, horrory death metal goodness.
So I thought i'd shout that one out. Then in
black metal, it's a few things out. There's the sort
of Tolkien themed band One of Nine with a record
called Dawn of the Eyron Shadow. I'm curious to check
that one out this weekend. Two albums that I reviewed
in Metal Hammer. One comes from Thron which is called Verias,

(01:22:09):
and one comes from the Brazilian band Outlaw with a
record called Opus Mortis. And then there is also a
European band called Rune Magic with Cycle of the Dying
Sun brackets Dawn of Ashen Realms. That's two album titles.
One of those would have done it. You could have
saved the next one for the next one, but there
you go. And then to bring it back to the
EPs for today, Trivium Struck Dead EP. They, of course,

(01:22:30):
you know, recently knocked out an EP and we've heard
one song from it, but that is now out there,
so I'm curious to see what the rest of it
hold and what people make of it. And the UK
hardcore band going Off, who we've mentioned a few times
over the years on the show and now at this
point have got their EP kill list two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Thanks very much for listening. I hope that you enjoyed
this particular edition of Halloween Hyperblasts. Let us know what
you answers to those questions would be, because we had
a lot of fun answering those and we will be
back next week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Cheers everybody, Happy Halloween.

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