August 7, 2025 • 34 mins
There's gothy new AFI and even more dramatically new Davey Havok facial hair as we wonder who is really under there, and pay our respects to the sadly passed Erik Wunder behind the revolutionary USBM outlaws Cobalt.
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Babymetal - Metal Forth
Halestorm - Everest
Good Charlotte - Motel Du Cap
Lord of the Lost - Opvs Noir Vol. 1
As December Falls - Everything’s On Fire But I’m Fine
Firstborne - Lucky
Attack Attack! - Attack Attack! II
Blackbraid - Blackbraid III
Sinsaenum - In Devastation
Asunojokei - Think of You
Malthusian - The Summoning Bell
Crypt Sermon - Saturnian Apprentices
Aversions Crown - A Voice From the Outer Dark
Releases:
Babymetal - Metal Forth
Halestorm - Everest
Good Charlotte - Motel Du Cap
Lord of the Lost - Opvs Noir Vol. 1
As December Falls - Everything’s On Fire But I’m Fine
Firstborne - Lucky
Attack Attack! - Attack Attack! II
Blackbraid - Blackbraid III
Sinsaenum - In Devastation
Asunojokei - Think of You
Malthusian - The Summoning Bell
Crypt Sermon - Saturnian Apprentices
Aversions Crown - A Voice From the Outer Dark
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello everybody. I'm welcome. So that's not metal. We are
your weekly rock, heavy metal, hardcore, heavy music podcast, and
we are here with an addition of hyperblasts, our rapid
fire little weekly news show where we let you know
everything that's been going on or the releases that you
are going to want to know about. It's a really fun,
bizarre looking release week, this bunch. Let's get into it.
(00:47):
My name is Parnhaish. With me across from me, joining
for the news is Mark Sanderson Today.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hello, Mark Joy good chow, old boy, I panicked.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Leonardo DiCaprio in uh, I've forgot more. The fucking the
Great Gaspe. That's the name of that movie, isn't it.
You're a bas Lerman man, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's the one I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's one of the only ones I've seen, even though
my mum took me to the cinema to see Australia
when that was coming out. I don't know if anyone.
I don't know if there are any Australia heads out there.
How are we talking about Australia by Baz Lerman. About
a minute into this metal podcast, there we go. Let's
get onto the proper stuff that we have got to
talk about. So we're gonna start the news today with
(01:32):
in our little corner of you know, the internet and
the rock community whatever are particularly exciting week, which is
we've got news from AFI right now. No, it's not
currently a UK tour or anything, although it's a new
album cyd call so maybe thingers crossed, who fucking knows,
But we do have a word of new music and
actual new music. It's more than word, isn't. I don't
know why I said that, following up The Bodies album,
(01:55):
which is four years ago now already incredibly twenty twenty
one was the The Bodies record, so I guess everyone's schedule.
We have a new AFI album that is coming out
in October, surely the most perfect month for an AFI
album release. It's called Silver Bleeds the Black Sun, and
we have a first single from it, which is called
(02:16):
behind the Clock. And AFI new Music, you know the
deal in terms of where are we gonna go? What
sides of the AFI canvas are we gonna venture into
the word that we have kind of gotten about this
album ahead of it is quite interesting if you are
a certain stripe of af FI fan, I suppose before
(02:39):
we get into the music of what it sounds like
when you press play on the music video, and maybe
you will have seen photos from outside of this, I
don't know, but certainly, when you press play on the
music video a little short the way in, you are
greeted by who else, of course Davey Havoc, But you
are not prepared for how Davy Havoc appears in this video.
(03:05):
And for the record, seemingly it doesn't seem to be
just a video, it's just what Davey Havoc has popped
up looking like. I don't remember the last time I
saw Davy Havoc in public. I think it probably would
have been about a year or two ago. They played
a show in America where they played single Sorrow in full,
and I watched a video of that, and I know
he's had like the little rat tail things going on
for a while, but you know, otherwise, he looked how
(03:28):
Davey Havoc normally looks. I don't know how long Davy
Havoc has to have been off grid to now emerge
the way he has.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, what okay.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
This?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And there was shots of the band, just silhouettes of
the band and I remember looking at that pinpointing where
Davy was and going, man, a bet it looks fucking
fab Oh my god, look it's here, A bet it
looks amazing. And then I thought it was a joke.
I saw a picture of him, and I thought it
was a fucking meme. The mustache is horrid, horrible? Was
(04:12):
he gone?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It looks like a disguise. It looks like in about
two months time he's gonna whip it offel someone else
is underneath, Like if there are any Twin Peaks fans
out there. He gives me, mister tomurravite game fucking rochel
marks looking ass hair as well beyond the mustache, the
(04:36):
big like Bob Ross, silver like curly mop of hair
and combined with the enormous like I haven't even seen
the movie, but he looks like Benedict come the Batch
in that new Wes Anderson film. How how is he again?
How long has he been in the shadow? He's building
(04:59):
this up? This is insan. If he's gathered this in
like a matter of a couple of months or something,
that's impressive work.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The mustache hares are so long, that's what's so impressive
about it. But I think, I don't know. He is
so beautiful and he's so glamorous and so suave, and
I was just excited to see him. And now he's
popped up looking like fucking the fabulous gruffalo. I don't
(05:28):
know what to do with myself, my lovely, beautiful man.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's brilliant, Like it's better than you know, again the
Body's hero. When it was like, okay, it's Davy and
you know he's a handsome man as usual, but he's
got these weird, scraggy little rat tails just kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like putting a you know, yeah, I didn't love that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now he's gone beyond that in as you say, like
wild Man from the Hills, and is is he doing
it intentionally in terms of like I feel like looking
mental for a while, Like I'm tired of people telling
me how how handsome I am.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I have to like fend them off by.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, Mark, Mark's outside my apartment. He won't leave me
alone until I give my pic. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And it's not just him as well, like his is
obviously the most you know, dramatic, but like like Hunter
and Jade have got you know, big tashits going on
as well in the current. So I like the like
and the weird porn tash era of afire in at
the moment, but like the whole hair, the whole look.
And I watched an interview that he did, you know,
talking about the new album, and it was so jarring
(06:32):
hearing normal voice Davy Havoc come out of that man now,
because it's like, oh, you look at him now, and
do you think he's gonna sound like Tom Waits or something,
or like really scraggly And it's like, oh, yeah, it's
still quite you know, well spoken Davy Haboit. But yeah,
send in your thoughts about Davey Havoc's new look. I mean, Mark,
(06:53):
you messaged me before we recording, like are we going
to talk about Davey Havoc's fasual hair?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And of course we are.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's like slip not getting a new mask, like it's
major album cycle news, Like if we do it, wouldn't
it be incredible if this actually turns out to be
the album cycle where AFI get a UK show and
all of us to look at that, all of us
the AFI for the first time with Davy in fabulous
gruffllo mode, like we never could have predicted that happening,
(07:21):
but it would be in sensational.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This is what we get. This is the monkey park curling.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
There are much work a way for it to curl.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I guess, so this would be a bit more palatable
if the song reflected the look in any sort of way. Oh,
if you wanted it to be like the storm Age
or just again a woodsman, you know, with an acoustic
guitar or something. Yeah, I guess we should just not
(07:50):
talk about the mustache onto the song itself. When I
hear a song, and you know, again many strands of
AFI fans, when I hear a song and it is
more kind of burials slash, the darkest side of bodies,
coded out of all the stuff that AFI had done before.
I know, you know you are the crash love obsessive
(08:12):
that and a bunch of us. I know that that's
probably more my speed of AFI than it is yours.
I think this song is really cool and really, you know,
whirls its way kind of around my head in an
interesting way. We're obviously we're doubling down and leaning further
than ever, perhaps into gothy post punk AFI with this,
(08:33):
which their previous kind of biggest moment of is the
Burials album. Like I said, it turns up Bodies was
a bit of a kind of a all over the place.
I liked it all but in terms of styles, you know,
a bit kind of jumps around, a fair bit record
really dark songs on that have a bit of that
as well. But the word from this, I mean you
sometimes you hear a single and maybe this would have
(08:54):
been the case for Bodies to hear someone and go,
oh okay. You know, who knows how much of the
album this will be representative of. They have said up
about this though, like yet, like this, this is the album,
like this we are trying to make our They've described
it as their most like singular mood immersive sort of
album where they are thoroughly going into dark, shadowy goth
(09:16):
terrains for basically all of it by the sounds of it.
So again, you know, different stripes of AFI fan. Some
people might not be so enthusiastic about that. Some people
might be very enthusiastic. I hear this song and it
is wonderfully like quite wide screen in this weird goth
thing it's doing, Like it's kind of it sounds like
barrel of a gun. By Depeche Mode meets how Soon
(09:39):
Is Now by the Smiths with that bit kind of
like wow, like like reverby guitar. It's sort of in
a tunnel guitar chords, which I think that bit in
particular sounds sensational. I think the production on this track
is incredible, and that's really just kind of like got
me in the zone. Yeah, it's like you say, the
Gothy the shadowy is not my area with AFI, but
(10:04):
they just have such a flair for the dramatic. Yeah,
so grand and it's so theatrical in a way that
I do sort of It's not my favorite AFI song,
but I do enjoy it. In that guitar part you're
talking about, I really like because it's like a smashing Pumpkins.
It's like cherror Brock or something that like particular two
(10:26):
seconds of guitar really evokes sort of Siamese dream to me.
So if there's more guitars like that, that's gonna that's
gonna boy me.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I would expect not big flowery bops AFI this
time around. But if you're in, I know, I'm sorry
to break that these t mark, but if you're into,
you know, really it's still you know, it's still dramatic
but really like you know, smoldering mood piece AFI. I
love that. Burials is one of my favorite AFI records
these days. And you know, even further in that direction
(10:57):
I would be for and this is again product alone
and arrangement. The bassline is incredible, big kind of dramatic,
cinematic sounding beat going along with it. I'm obviously really
excited for AFI's record coming out October the third, and
it does mean that we are going to get a
double in October where we're going to get Creeper and
AFI together, because we already knew that No Sangua Voar
(11:18):
two was coming out on Halloween. They announced that when
they did that show last and they said the album
was coming, but it's officially been announced. I suppose this week,
with the cover art and everything, which is quite Creeper,
are getting even further into like I don't know, that
weird little corner of bands I like that do, like
you know, people with swords and suits of armor and
(11:39):
stuff like the in the Woods or whatever they've got,
you know, a lady in chain mail or something, which like, yeah, cool,
I'm down for it. They are selling a silver bullet
as part of the merchandise, which you know, you can
go discover what kind of bullet. But that's a very
good little pun.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Isn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And we already had the song of Headstones, but we've
got another song that's come out as well, and the
new track is basically like this Corrosion by Sisters of
Mercy meets Heaven is a Place on Earth.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, how are you feeling about the song?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I've listened to it like once, maybe twice. They seem
to have very much like I don't know, I'm in
a weird era with Creep that I almost sort of
know what to expect, Like I know that we are
getting because it's the second you know, single of a record,
and a lot of the singles are going for this
very I mean, it's you know, it's sort of cried
to Heaven esque, isn't it in terms of the big
(12:32):
you know, female eighties pop again Belinda Carlyle or whatever
type choir. So I thought it's a fun track, but
it kind of scratched itches that maybe have already been scratched.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I don't know, you're probably expecting me to come
in here. There's no other word for it gushing like
a guyser. But I don't really know how I feel
because it feels a bit I don't know. These two
headstones in this one probably my two least favorite Creeper singles,
(13:05):
which isn't to say I dislike them.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I'm just I probably agree in fairness, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I had something, but yeah, when the song started
with that hook and then the riff, I was like,
this is gonna be my favorite song ever. I think
it veers to Pestichi for me, where it is literally
just heaven is a place on earth. Over the instrumental
of you give Love a Bad Name, which should be
(13:32):
my absolute bag, but I listened to it and I
think you could do better than that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well you will see how much the second Sang of
War record, Yes, over the course of it kind of
goes beyond that and lives up to the first one,
but obviously coming alongside the AFI record in October. I
also know that by the time this episode is out,
there's new Trivium coming. They've said that they've got an
EP come in. There's a song that is not out
at the time of recording, but you will probably have
(13:58):
heard it by the time.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Listening to this.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I will be at Bloodstock where I know they will
be playing it, so we'll have stuff to say about
it next time. And my main trivial news this week
is another very catty, funny little comment from mister Hafey
when he was like, how come with new music and
a new tour at the same time?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Oh my god, keep them coming. Very funny, right.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So more new music that we do have right now
comes from Undeath, who are also going to be in
the UK this this week, and just ahead of that
they dropped a little two track EP with two songs
called Enter Patient and Endless Graveyard, which is very good
and I liked about this. The last record, More Insane,
was like the most polished thing they had done, and
(14:43):
it sounds incredible, really high quality, you know, Mark Lewis
production job and everything. Got a lot of praise rightly
so for that. But it was nice following up that
album to get an EP that was obviously done in
a more kind of slightly more DIY fashion and being like, oh,
we's slimy again, you know. Remind me of when two
Mold used to drop the demos in between their albums
of like, this is some stuff, but it's kind of
in a raw form, and I liked hearing un Death
(15:06):
go back to like, oh yeah, we're in like a
we're in like the slimy demolic cavern or something.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it sounds like it was recorded in a dungeon.
It's it's great fun this. I love the last minute
and a half of the first song, yeah, which is
just like a hammer horror score.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Castle Vania organ. Yeah, that first track is very like
you can slimy sort of death doo me as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Imagine they'll probably play one, if not both of those
songs at you know, Bloodstock and the surrounding UK tour
Wacken happened last weekend, I guess, and they, as they
often do, announced a first round of bands for next
year's event. Wacken is you know, inherently interesting of itself.
Many many people go, but also here in the UK,
(15:50):
if you are looking at from the UK lens, we
do sometimes play a little game of sort of like
Bloodstock prediction bingo with Wakan, you know, happening so close
to Bloodock and share a certain kind of audience, and
you know there's the bands who likely will not be
playing Bloodstock because they go slightly above in terms of size.
So if def Leopard turned up as a Bloodstock headline
next year as they are for VACAN, I mean, it'd
(16:12):
be pretty crazy, but you know, not necessarily expecting that.
And you know, as said, we'll know sooner rather than
later because there is you know, a big Bloodtock announcement
coming as part of the festival next week. So I
imagine if any of these bands on this VACAN announcement
are going to be at Bloodstock, they'll probably be on
that announcement that's coming next week. But we have Death
(16:33):
Leopard and Powerwolf as some headliners, as Inflames, their Savotage,
Sepultura's final German show, their farewell tour really you know,
stretching out and all sorts of other stuff going on
here as well. Anything jump out at you, mark as
just even if it wasn't to come to the UK,
Just things that are interesting on VACAN.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean there's a lot of band on there. I know,
you like the trip to CON's ever heard of them?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, I mean that's again be very indulgent for me
to spend too much time thinking about that, because that
says exclusive, that's only at vacuum, but it is a
weird billing. It's a best of show but with several
worldwide live debuts is how it's build. So basically what
that sounds like is they're gonna play some songs that
have never been played before, which I'd have to go
(17:19):
back and even think what that is because the big
one was always a Dying God coming into human Flesh,
which they played for the first time this year. So Tom,
for whatever reason, seems to be in this mode of like, right,
I'm gonna play all of the songs I haven't played before,
which is fun. I imagine it won't extend to Cold Lake,
so we'll not get every every single one. But yeah,
I just don't know what is what they could be
(17:40):
referred to the like what songs haven't they played that
will turn up there? I'm in tried obviously we just
won't get it here. I'm also intrigued by the fact
that never More I believe I'm not saying this is
the first show they've got announced since they we announced
that they were like coming back, so we know that
never More are going to be in it. Like if
I was thinking, you know, crossing my fingers for anything
on the Bloodstock announcement next week based on this vac
and one I would love to see Nevermore next year.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Is that a Gathering reunion as well?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Uh yeah, I think that they've been doing again a
few exclusive shows with an eke back for like that
kind of classic era, which will be really really cool
to see if it came around the blood Fire Death
Bathory show there which I saw this summer running whild
They're gonna be playing their final show the og Pirate
metal band, and again, as usually, there's plenty of you know,
(18:27):
like metalcore stuff as well. They're orbit culture thrown any
given day or a band I hadn't thought about in
several years, but they're still there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Didn't we see any given day?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think we did about ten years ago or something.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, and they covered Rhianna Stop. Question is interesting
because I look at this and I think, well, our
Bloodstop finally gonna get gutsy get airborne band in I.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Wouldn't come playing if that happened. Blood Command are on
there as well, So yeah, that cool stuff going on
back and some stuff that I'm very intrigued by that
I know we won't get, but also I guess we'll
come back here next week and see what we do get.
Cross Faith this week have annow it's sort of following
up there.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They've had a bit of a trail of news surrounding
them for the past few weeks where one of their
guitarists I can't reve to off my head if it
was a founding guitarist or how long that guy I've
been there, but one of their members was ousted for
the bands due to inappropriate behavior, and Cross Faith were like,
that's we're gonna go and kind of sort our stuff
out for a while. They've said this week that they
are unfortunately going to be put on kind of indefinite hiatus,
(19:38):
and again we don't know how long that means. But
considering like Cross They've put out their best record in
over a decade easily last year, and it was like
one of the better metical releases of last year. It
is so unfortunate timing of this is it's like just
when they were kind of really I don't know if
They'ressari is building a lot of momentum outside and outside
(19:58):
of again and the core fan base it's always been there
with them, but they were doing something cool, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, and Before the album, they were sort of in
limbo a bit again, so it was nice to have
them back actually be a band and delivering what I
think is like some of the best Cross Faith material.
I was really excited to be a Cross Faith fan again.
And it is a bit like right as they're like
(20:26):
ready to, I don't know, keep going and do more
exciting stuff. Is a bit of a shame. It is admirable,
I guess, like, I'm really glad they've handled it the
way they have when lots of other bands just don't
address stuff like this. So good for them. I'd like
(20:49):
to see them come back sooner rather than later, but
they need to sort of reflect and do their own thing.
They can have as much time as they need. Basically
yeah yeah ah, And then if everyone will allow me.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
At the moment, I want to wax lyrical about one
of my favorite bands, who, unfortunately we know now are
no more, because the news came this week that Eric Wonder,
the multi instrumentalist and the kind of primary brain behind
the band Cobalt, as well as his other kind of
more Americana project, Old Man's Gin. But the news broke
(21:23):
unfortunately that he has passed away this week at he's
I think he was like forty two or something like,
you know, no real age, and this he was gutting
to me because like I know, obviously, you know, we
just were speaking about you know, Ozzy Osborne so much recently,
and that's a figure that everybody knows. This is someone
that a much more niche community of people really you know.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Feel this particular loss.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But Cobolt, if you don't know them, are one of
my favorite but one of the best extreme metals certainly
black metal bands of the two thousands and on, you know,
just the twin in the first century in general. They
were like one of the first bands really to kind
of stamp a real identity of kind of americanness onto
(22:12):
black metal in a way that you know, like they
started off, you know, obviously taking influence from a lot
of the Norwegian stuff and that, but the way they
you know, they were one of the earliest bands doing
this kind of like western laced Americana black metal in
such a vivid and like you know, not gim the
key at all, but really artistically cohesive and thought outweigh
(22:33):
and they were you know, kind of there was a
time in the naughties when you know USBM was bands
like Kobolt and Natmistium and you know, Walls and the
Throne and were just coming up at that time and
stuff like that, you know, bands who were kind of
setting out the standard of this really exciting movement that
was that was going on. And Cobolt are one of
the most idiosyncratic, immediately identifiable bands out of anyone to
(22:58):
break at that time. They are one of the most
like primarily aggressive, Like they have an ability to just
flick the switch of just like the you know, lizard
brain just animal violent instate in a way that few
bands I've ever heard really managed to tap into that.
But their sound was laced with so much of like
(23:20):
what was exciting about the kind of new frontier of
extreme metal in the two thousands. It was there in
Cobolt with you know, post metally neurosis or isis kind
of passages tool Like I don't know if I've ever
heard a band honestly do tool in a new kind
of context without it just feeling like, oh, here's a
two minute kind of chin strokey tool passage, but like
(23:42):
taking such you know, innovative influence, if that makes sense,
like taking something from somewhere and doing it in a
totally new way that you would not expect at all.
I've never heard a band do that with tools music
the way that American black metal band Cobalts sitting around
their campfires and riding their horses and in that kind
of world of you know, Western black metal. They were
(24:02):
doing do that to the point that a few years ago,
like when I was kind of you know, first starting
to program that's not matter, I suppose, and we were
doing album clubs every week, and I was like, Okay,
you know, I've got a bit of room to you know,
like we can sort of breathe a bit of new
life in terms of the kind of records that would
come on too album club And when I was thinking
of like, what would be you know, a really interesting
(24:23):
sort of maybe a deeper poll for your average audience,
but like a really striking and just something that would
just show how cool and diverse underground metal could be.
Pretty early on, I went for Gin by Cobolt, which
is one of the like masterpiece records of extreme metal
and black metal in in the two thousands. Pregnant Insect
(24:45):
is the best song that Jabo ever sings on the
title track of Eter of Birds has one of the
craziest explosions of violence, just like carnal violence in a riff.
Ever put to tape, it's overwhel filming. And they, you know,
over the years they've kind of become and if you know,
you know band, because they've been silent for quite a
(25:07):
long time. But I have to think that they were
such an influence and inspiration on some of the new
bands we're enjoying today. You know, the way that there's
such a kind of a scene of like so many
of the best and exciting acclaimed extreme bands coming around
from places like Colorado in the US, That's where Cobalt
were from. And you know, members of bands like Wayfairer
were cutting their teeth in the live band of Cobalt
(25:27):
and stuff like that. And the three album curve of
Era Birds, Gin and Slow Forever, the final double album
is one of the best three album curves of contemporary
twenty first century modern extreme metal. And I was, you know,
I was already missing them in terms of the nearly
ten years now since the flut slof Forever record came out,
but you know, now continuing on, no one was really
(25:50):
able to touch what they were doing. No one wrote riffs,
played drums, arranged music the way that Eric from Cobalt
did it. They were so individualistic and I I desperately
I was holding out hope for so long for another
album after Slow Forever and a tour as well, because
they looked sensational life, particularly that last line up with
Charlie Fell on vocals. I wanted it live so badly,
(26:13):
and I'm desperately sad that we now won't hear more
from him. But if you don't know anything I've just
spoken about and that kind of interests you, Cobolt. Those
records I was talking about from the you know, the
late twenty of the early twenty tens, some of the
best records of the world that I love. And this
is a really big loss for me. I think that
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Eric from Cobalt has gone. So I just wanted to
pay my respects there to someone who really in the
underground leaves an incredible legacy of music. So what else
have we got going on in the That's not a
Metal world on the Patreon this past week, which if
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week or so, Sam and I we returned to our
horror podcast, T's Horror Series, where we put up a
very in depth it took a lot of work to
really kind of dive into the guts of what those
things are about episode on the twenty eight Days Later
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series that you know, currently a trilli of trilogy of
there will be More, And like I said, it was,
you know, in terms of a modern kind of title
that really just has so much going along. I think
there is almost a narrative arc of tracking history, particularly
of the British Isles, you know, through those three movies.
Getting into that was you know, very it was stimulating
(27:38):
Mark you and not on that show, but I know
that you are a big you know twenty eight days
Later head generally, and you were also absolutely baffled and
thrown by the way that twenty eight years Later ended
its final minutes.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right that they're cooking, aren't they They're cooking something?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
What the fuck? Man? The I'm so interested. There's got
a bit like there's gonna be a reason for it,
and I cannot fucking wait.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, I can't wait either.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But that is the stuff that we are diving into
on our newest episode about twenty days, twenty days, twenty
eight weeks and twenty eight years later, some interesting stepment
of twenty eight weeks as the generally kind of underdiscussed one.
So that was the latest thing to go up. And then,
as I said, I believe last week, once I returned
from Bloodstock, we are going to really be cooking our
next music special, Mark smiling, because Mark has an interesting
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role in this thing. It's gonna be a lot that's
going on there. So if you want to see what's
happening there, as said patron dot com slash, that's the
metal is the place to hear everything that we've got
going on over there and all of the most ridiculous
and most in depth. I think those two things I've
just discussed and laid out do kind of cover both
bases there stuff that we make. So yeah, cheers, everybody.
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Let's end this on releases for the eighth of August
twenty twenty five. And like I lude to up tot
as kind of an interesting, I don't know, diverse batch
of names where you go ay for some of them
up today so we're gonna start with Baby Metal their
new album Metal Fourth. They are, you know, quite productive
(29:13):
these days, really, aren't. They've always got seem to have
something around the corner from baby Metal, constant collaborations and whatnot.
I'm sure this record will be full of them. So
the new Baby Metal record is out. Hailstorm are back
with their record calld Everest. I saw several of these
songs live supporting Iron Maiden the other week, so the
new Hailstorm record is out. Good Charlotte have a record
out as well called Motel Do cap mark? Do you
(29:36):
have thoughts or opinions on an upcoming Good Charlotte record?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I heard one of the singles and it was one
of the worst songs I've heard this year.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Good endorsement and if you want to carry that on.
Lord of the Lost are back with not a covers
album this time, but seemingly the first of a series
of records.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
They're releasing an album.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Called Opus Noir Volume one.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
So.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hopefully it's worth a volume two. I guess I may
see some Lord of the Lost this weekend because they're
are bloodstock, so count me in.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Again, I guess.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
As December falls, the UK pop rock band. I guess
they've got a record called Everything's on Fire. But I'm
fine first Born, which is the sort of like I know,
trad rocky trad metal band that Chris Adler joined after
leaving Lamb of God. They've got a record called Lucky.
This is the one that really jumped out when I
was like a looking at the listings, Attack Attack with
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a record called Attack Attack Too. Now I don't know,
I am aware Attack Attack there are variants of them, right,
and it's down to how many exclamation marks they have.
I think I'm right in saying there there's attack exclamation mark,
Attack exclamation mark, and then a different band with just
the one exclamation mark at the end. This is the
single exclamation mark Attack Attack exclamation mark. So when it
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was Attack Attack two, I was like, surely Attack Attack.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Of more albums than that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But I guess this is the other Attack Attack It
might be to do. I don't know if like Caleb
Schomo or whoever is involved with this, whichever, I'm not
down with the attack Attacked lineage. But one of the
Attack Attacks has attack Attack too out and a trust
mark that you will go listen to it and tell
me about it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So that I don't actually have.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
To into the underground. Black Braid a back with Black
Braid three more albums than Attack Attack. The third Black
Braid album obviously the second Black Braid album for a
couple of years ago, I thought was excellent.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
So looking forward to getting stuck into that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Since Sanam are back with an album called in Devastation
if you vaguely remember that name. That was a kind
of death metal band that featured Joey Jordison on the drums,
as well as like several like extreme metal legends like
a Tilla from Mayhem is on vocals and stuff like that.
And obviously Joey Jordison is no longer part of this.
I think that this is an album that they kind
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of had in the works and they've got another drummer
and to kind of like finish it and put it
out in his memory to some degree. But you know,
after a few years distance, insaneom album is seeing the
light of day. The Japanese, I guess Black Kay's band
as soon a Yokai. They have returned with an album
this week. I didn't know what's coming, but it's called
Think of You and Mark, I know that you like
that band a fair bit because it's Japanese dream poppy
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style black metal, which is like Mark all over.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yep. I had no idea about this until right now,
and I'm very excited to hear it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yep, you will go right after this, I'm sure. A
band that I love the Irish death metal band Malthusian
with Johnny King on the drums, who's played drums for Otter,
was of Plague Cone and several great bands. They are
back with their second full length album. They take quite
a long time between their albums, so this is a
bit of an event called the Summoning Bell, and with
this one they've stepped up from one of the small
little extreme metal labels Thatch I knew them to be on,
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so now they're on relapse with this. So maybe a
bit more going on with Althusian, which is interesting to say,
but I love that band, so I'm looking I was
getting stuck into that as well. That's probably the release
I'm most looking forward to hearing this week, although I'm
also looking forward to hearing the EP that's coming out
from Cryptsom called Saturnian Apprentices, the great trad doom metal
band following up their fantastic last album with an EP
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of some pretty good sounding i'm sure new tracks and
their cover of Mayhem's Mysteries Dum Satanas is on there,
which what a pick for a cleanly sung doom metal
bands to be doing. Fantastic and then there's a second
EP as well from the death core band Aversions Crown,
who are returning with a record called A Voice from
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the Outer Dark. So that's your lot. You know which way,
Western man, I'm sure there's lots of directions you could
be going out of all of those cool stuff. Next week. Well, actually,
you know, this coming weekend as you are hearing this,
will be at Bloodstock Festival. So next week we'll be
back with coverage from said festival. We'll be letting you
know the best stuff that happened. Obviously, the announcement for
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next year is coming as well, but we will be
back with that and then we'll keep all the usual
things rolling. So cheers everybody for being with us this time.
Let us know, of course, you have to let us
know the hot topic of the week, what are your
opinions on Daily Havoc's facial hair, And we will see
you again next time.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Bye bye,
Hello everybody. I'm welcome. So that's not metal. We are
your weekly rock, heavy metal, hardcore, heavy music podcast, and
we are here with an addition of hyperblasts, our rapid
fire little weekly news show where we let you know
everything that's been going on or the releases that you
are going to want to know about. It's a really fun,
bizarre looking release week, this bunch. Let's get into it.
(00:47):
My name is Parnhaish. With me across from me, joining
for the news is Mark Sanderson Today.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hello, Mark Joy good chow, old boy, I panicked.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Leonardo DiCaprio in uh, I've forgot more. The fucking the
Great Gaspe. That's the name of that movie, isn't it.
You're a bas Lerman man, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's the one I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's one of the only ones I've seen, even though
my mum took me to the cinema to see Australia
when that was coming out. I don't know if anyone.
I don't know if there are any Australia heads out there.
How are we talking about Australia by Baz Lerman. About
a minute into this metal podcast, there we go. Let's
get onto the proper stuff that we have got to
talk about. So we're gonna start the news today with
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in our little corner of you know, the internet and
the rock community whatever are particularly exciting week, which is
we've got news from AFI right now. No, it's not
currently a UK tour or anything, although it's a new
album cyd call so maybe thingers crossed, who fucking knows,
But we do have a word of new music and
actual new music. It's more than word, isn't. I don't
know why I said that, following up The Bodies album,
(01:55):
which is four years ago now already incredibly twenty twenty
one was the The Bodies record, so I guess everyone's schedule.
We have a new AFI album that is coming out
in October, surely the most perfect month for an AFI
album release. It's called Silver Bleeds the Black Sun, and
we have a first single from it, which is called
(02:16):
behind the Clock. And AFI new Music, you know the
deal in terms of where are we gonna go? What
sides of the AFI canvas are we gonna venture into
the word that we have kind of gotten about this
album ahead of it is quite interesting if you are
a certain stripe of af FI fan, I suppose before
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we get into the music of what it sounds like
when you press play on the music video, and maybe
you will have seen photos from outside of this, I
don't know, but certainly, when you press play on the
music video a little short the way in, you are
greeted by who else, of course Davey Havoc, But you
are not prepared for how Davy Havoc appears in this video.
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And for the record, seemingly it doesn't seem to be
just a video, it's just what Davey Havoc has popped
up looking like. I don't remember the last time I
saw Davy Havoc in public. I think it probably would
have been about a year or two ago. They played
a show in America where they played single Sorrow in full,
and I watched a video of that, and I know
he's had like the little rat tail things going on
for a while, but you know, otherwise, he looked how
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Davey Havoc normally looks. I don't know how long Davy
Havoc has to have been off grid to now emerge
the way he has.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, what okay.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
This?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And there was shots of the band, just silhouettes of
the band and I remember looking at that pinpointing where
Davy was and going, man, a bet it looks fucking
fab Oh my god, look it's here, A bet it
looks amazing. And then I thought it was a joke.
I saw a picture of him, and I thought it
was a fucking meme. The mustache is horrid, horrible? Was
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he gone?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It looks like a disguise. It looks like in about
two months time he's gonna whip it offel someone else
is underneath, Like if there are any Twin Peaks fans
out there. He gives me, mister tomurravite game fucking rochel
marks looking ass hair as well beyond the mustache, the
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big like Bob Ross, silver like curly mop of hair
and combined with the enormous like I haven't even seen
the movie, but he looks like Benedict come the Batch
in that new Wes Anderson film. How how is he again?
How long has he been in the shadow? He's building
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this up? This is insan. If he's gathered this in
like a matter of a couple of months or something,
that's impressive work.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The mustache hares are so long, that's what's so impressive
about it. But I think, I don't know. He is
so beautiful and he's so glamorous and so suave, and
I was just excited to see him. And now he's
popped up looking like fucking the fabulous gruffalo. I don't
(05:28):
know what to do with myself, my lovely, beautiful man.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's brilliant, Like it's better than you know, again the
Body's hero. When it was like, okay, it's Davy and
you know he's a handsome man as usual, but he's
got these weird, scraggy little rat tails just kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like putting a you know, yeah, I didn't love that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now he's gone beyond that in as you say, like
wild Man from the Hills, and is is he doing
it intentionally in terms of like I feel like looking
mental for a while, Like I'm tired of people telling
me how how handsome I am.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I have to like fend them off by.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, Mark, Mark's outside my apartment. He won't leave me
alone until I give my pic. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And it's not just him as well, like his is
obviously the most you know, dramatic, but like like Hunter
and Jade have got you know, big tashits going on
as well in the current. So I like the like
and the weird porn tash era of afire in at
the moment, but like the whole hair, the whole look.
And I watched an interview that he did, you know,
talking about the new album, and it was so jarring
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hearing normal voice Davy Havoc come out of that man now,
because it's like, oh, you look at him now, and
do you think he's gonna sound like Tom Waits or something,
or like really scraggly And it's like, oh, yeah, it's
still quite you know, well spoken Davy Haboit. But yeah,
send in your thoughts about Davey Havoc's new look. I mean, Mark,
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you messaged me before we recording, like are we going
to talk about Davey Havoc's fasual hair?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And of course we are.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's like slip not getting a new mask, like it's
major album cycle news, Like if we do it, wouldn't
it be incredible if this actually turns out to be
the album cycle where AFI get a UK show and
all of us to look at that, all of us
the AFI for the first time with Davy in fabulous
gruffllo mode, like we never could have predicted that happening,
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but it would be in sensational.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This is what we get. This is the monkey park curling.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
There are much work a way for it to curl.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I guess, so this would be a bit more palatable
if the song reflected the look in any sort of way. Oh,
if you wanted it to be like the storm Age
or just again a woodsman, you know, with an acoustic
guitar or something. Yeah, I guess we should just not
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talk about the mustache onto the song itself. When I
hear a song, and you know, again many strands of
AFI fans, when I hear a song and it is
more kind of burials slash, the darkest side of bodies,
coded out of all the stuff that AFI had done before.
I know, you know you are the crash love obsessive
(08:12):
that and a bunch of us. I know that that's
probably more my speed of AFI than it is yours.
I think this song is really cool and really, you know,
whirls its way kind of around my head in an
interesting way. We're obviously we're doubling down and leaning further
than ever, perhaps into gothy post punk AFI with this,
(08:33):
which their previous kind of biggest moment of is the
Burials album. Like I said, it turns up Bodies was
a bit of a kind of a all over the place.
I liked it all but in terms of styles, you know,
a bit kind of jumps around, a fair bit record
really dark songs on that have a bit of that
as well. But the word from this, I mean you
sometimes you hear a single and maybe this would have
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been the case for Bodies to hear someone and go,
oh okay. You know, who knows how much of the
album this will be representative of. They have said up
about this though, like yet, like this, this is the album,
like this we are trying to make our They've described
it as their most like singular mood immersive sort of
album where they are thoroughly going into dark, shadowy goth
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terrains for basically all of it by the sounds of it.
So again, you know, different stripes of AFI fan. Some
people might not be so enthusiastic about that. Some people
might be very enthusiastic. I hear this song and it
is wonderfully like quite wide screen in this weird goth
thing it's doing, Like it's kind of it sounds like
barrel of a gun. By Depeche Mode meets how Soon
(09:39):
Is Now by the Smiths with that bit kind of
like wow, like like reverby guitar. It's sort of in
a tunnel guitar chords, which I think that bit in
particular sounds sensational. I think the production on this track
is incredible, and that's really just kind of like got
me in the zone. Yeah, it's like you say, the
Gothy the shadowy is not my area with AFI, but
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they just have such a flair for the dramatic. Yeah,
so grand and it's so theatrical in a way that
I do sort of It's not my favorite AFI song,
but I do enjoy it. In that guitar part you're
talking about, I really like because it's like a smashing Pumpkins.
It's like cherror Brock or something that like particular two
(10:26):
seconds of guitar really evokes sort of Siamese dream to me.
So if there's more guitars like that, that's gonna that's
gonna boy me.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I would expect not big flowery bops AFI this
time around. But if you're in, I know, I'm sorry
to break that these t mark, but if you're into,
you know, really it's still you know, it's still dramatic
but really like you know, smoldering mood piece AFI. I
love that. Burials is one of my favorite AFI records
these days. And you know, even further in that direction
(10:57):
I would be for and this is again product alone
and arrangement. The bassline is incredible, big kind of dramatic,
cinematic sounding beat going along with it. I'm obviously really
excited for AFI's record coming out October the third, and
it does mean that we are going to get a
double in October where we're going to get Creeper and
AFI together, because we already knew that No Sangua Voar
(11:18):
two was coming out on Halloween. They announced that when
they did that show last and they said the album
was coming, but it's officially been announced. I suppose this week,
with the cover art and everything, which is quite Creeper,
are getting even further into like I don't know, that
weird little corner of bands I like that do, like
you know, people with swords and suits of armor and
(11:39):
stuff like the in the Woods or whatever they've got,
you know, a lady in chain mail or something, which like, yeah, cool,
I'm down for it. They are selling a silver bullet
as part of the merchandise, which you know, you can
go discover what kind of bullet. But that's a very
good little pun.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Isn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And we already had the song of Headstones, but we've
got another song that's come out as well, and the
new track is basically like this Corrosion by Sisters of
Mercy meets Heaven is a Place on Earth.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, how are you feeling about the song?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I've listened to it like once, maybe twice. They seem
to have very much like I don't know, I'm in
a weird era with Creep that I almost sort of
know what to expect, Like I know that we are
getting because it's the second you know, single of a record,
and a lot of the singles are going for this
very I mean, it's you know, it's sort of cried
to Heaven esque, isn't it in terms of the big
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you know, female eighties pop again Belinda Carlyle or whatever
type choir. So I thought it's a fun track, but
it kind of scratched itches that maybe have already been scratched.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I don't know, you're probably expecting me to come
in here. There's no other word for it gushing like
a guyser. But I don't really know how I feel
because it feels a bit I don't know. These two
headstones in this one probably my two least favorite Creeper singles,
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which isn't to say I dislike them.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I'm just I probably agree in fairness, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I had something, but yeah, when the song started
with that hook and then the riff, I was like,
this is gonna be my favorite song ever. I think
it veers to Pestichi for me, where it is literally
just heaven is a place on earth. Over the instrumental
of you give Love a Bad Name, which should be
(13:32):
my absolute bag, but I listened to it and I
think you could do better than that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well you will see how much the second Sang of
War record, Yes, over the course of it kind of
goes beyond that and lives up to the first one,
but obviously coming alongside the AFI record in October. I
also know that by the time this episode is out,
there's new Trivium coming. They've said that they've got an
EP come in. There's a song that is not out
at the time of recording, but you will probably have
(13:58):
heard it by the time.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Listening to this.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I will be at Bloodstock where I know they will
be playing it, so we'll have stuff to say about
it next time. And my main trivial news this week
is another very catty, funny little comment from mister Hafey
when he was like, how come with new music and
a new tour at the same time?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Oh my god, keep them coming. Very funny, right.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So more new music that we do have right now
comes from Undeath, who are also going to be in
the UK this this week, and just ahead of that
they dropped a little two track EP with two songs
called Enter Patient and Endless Graveyard, which is very good
and I liked about this. The last record, More Insane,
was like the most polished thing they had done, and
(14:43):
it sounds incredible, really high quality, you know, Mark Lewis
production job and everything. Got a lot of praise rightly
so for that. But it was nice following up that
album to get an EP that was obviously done in
a more kind of slightly more DIY fashion and being like, oh,
we's slimy again, you know. Remind me of when two
Mold used to drop the demos in between their albums
of like, this is some stuff, but it's kind of
in a raw form, and I liked hearing un Death
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go back to like, oh yeah, we're in like a
we're in like the slimy demolic cavern or something.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it sounds like it was recorded in a dungeon.
It's it's great fun this. I love the last minute
and a half of the first song, yeah, which is
just like a hammer horror score.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Castle Vania organ. Yeah, that first track is very like
you can slimy sort of death doo me as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Imagine they'll probably play one, if not both of those
songs at you know, Bloodstock and the surrounding UK tour
Wacken happened last weekend, I guess, and they, as they
often do, announced a first round of bands for next
year's event. Wacken is you know, inherently interesting of itself.
Many many people go, but also here in the UK,
(15:50):
if you are looking at from the UK lens, we
do sometimes play a little game of sort of like
Bloodstock prediction bingo with Wakan, you know, happening so close
to Bloodock and share a certain kind of audience, and
you know there's the bands who likely will not be
playing Bloodstock because they go slightly above in terms of size.
So if def Leopard turned up as a Bloodstock headline
next year as they are for VACAN, I mean, it'd
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be pretty crazy, but you know, not necessarily expecting that.
And you know, as said, we'll know sooner rather than
later because there is you know, a big Bloodtock announcement
coming as part of the festival next week. So I
imagine if any of these bands on this VACAN announcement
are going to be at Bloodstock, they'll probably be on
that announcement that's coming next week. But we have Death
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Leopard and Powerwolf as some headliners, as Inflames, their Savotage,
Sepultura's final German show, their farewell tour really you know,
stretching out and all sorts of other stuff going on
here as well. Anything jump out at you, mark as
just even if it wasn't to come to the UK,
Just things that are interesting on VACAN.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean there's a lot of band on there. I know,
you like the trip to CON's ever heard of them?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, I mean that's again be very indulgent for me
to spend too much time thinking about that, because that
says exclusive, that's only at vacuum, but it is a
weird billing. It's a best of show but with several
worldwide live debuts is how it's build. So basically what
that sounds like is they're gonna play some songs that
have never been played before, which I'd have to go
(17:19):
back and even think what that is because the big
one was always a Dying God coming into human Flesh,
which they played for the first time this year. So Tom,
for whatever reason, seems to be in this mode of like, right,
I'm gonna play all of the songs I haven't played before,
which is fun. I imagine it won't extend to Cold Lake,
so we'll not get every every single one. But yeah,
I just don't know what is what they could be
(17:40):
referred to the like what songs haven't they played that
will turn up there? I'm in tried obviously we just
won't get it here. I'm also intrigued by the fact
that never More I believe I'm not saying this is
the first show they've got announced since they we announced
that they were like coming back, so we know that
never More are going to be in it. Like if
I was thinking, you know, crossing my fingers for anything
on the Bloodstock announcement next week based on this vac
and one I would love to see Nevermore next year.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Is that a Gathering reunion as well?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Uh yeah, I think that they've been doing again a
few exclusive shows with an eke back for like that
kind of classic era, which will be really really cool
to see if it came around the blood Fire Death
Bathory show there which I saw this summer running whild
They're gonna be playing their final show the og Pirate
metal band, and again, as usually, there's plenty of you know,
(18:27):
like metalcore stuff as well. They're orbit culture thrown any
given day or a band I hadn't thought about in
several years, but they're still there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Didn't we see any given day?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think we did about ten years ago or something.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, and they covered Rhianna Stop. Question is interesting
because I look at this and I think, well, our
Bloodstop finally gonna get gutsy get airborne band in I.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Wouldn't come playing if that happened. Blood Command are on
there as well, So yeah, that cool stuff going on
back and some stuff that I'm very intrigued by that
I know we won't get, but also I guess we'll
come back here next week and see what we do get.
Cross Faith this week have annow it's sort of following
up there.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They've had a bit of a trail of news surrounding
them for the past few weeks where one of their
guitarists I can't reve to off my head if it
was a founding guitarist or how long that guy I've
been there, but one of their members was ousted for
the bands due to inappropriate behavior, and Cross Faith were like,
that's we're gonna go and kind of sort our stuff
out for a while. They've said this week that they
are unfortunately going to be put on kind of indefinite hiatus,
(19:38):
and again we don't know how long that means. But
considering like Cross They've put out their best record in
over a decade easily last year, and it was like
one of the better metical releases of last year. It
is so unfortunate timing of this is it's like just
when they were kind of really I don't know if
They'ressari is building a lot of momentum outside and outside
(19:58):
of again and the core fan base it's always been there
with them, but they were doing something cool, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, and Before the album, they were sort of in
limbo a bit again, so it was nice to have
them back actually be a band and delivering what I
think is like some of the best Cross Faith material.
I was really excited to be a Cross Faith fan again.
And it is a bit like right as they're like
(20:26):
ready to, I don't know, keep going and do more
exciting stuff. Is a bit of a shame. It is admirable,
I guess, like, I'm really glad they've handled it the
way they have when lots of other bands just don't
address stuff like this. So good for them. I'd like
(20:49):
to see them come back sooner rather than later, but
they need to sort of reflect and do their own thing.
They can have as much time as they need. Basically
yeah yeah ah, And then if everyone will allow me.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
At the moment, I want to wax lyrical about one
of my favorite bands, who, unfortunately we know now are
no more, because the news came this week that Eric Wonder,
the multi instrumentalist and the kind of primary brain behind
the band Cobalt, as well as his other kind of
more Americana project, Old Man's Gin. But the news broke
(21:23):
unfortunately that he has passed away this week at he's
I think he was like forty two or something like,
you know, no real age, and this he was gutting
to me because like I know, obviously, you know, we
just were speaking about you know, Ozzy Osborne so much recently,
and that's a figure that everybody knows. This is someone
that a much more niche community of people really you know.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Feel this particular loss.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But Cobolt, if you don't know them, are one of
my favorite but one of the best extreme metals certainly
black metal bands of the two thousands and on, you know,
just the twin in the first century in general. They
were like one of the first bands really to kind
of stamp a real identity of kind of americanness onto
(22:12):
black metal in a way that you know, like they
started off, you know, obviously taking influence from a lot
of the Norwegian stuff and that, but the way they
you know, they were one of the earliest bands doing
this kind of like western laced Americana black metal in
such a vivid and like you know, not gim the
key at all, but really artistically cohesive and thought outweigh
(22:33):
and they were you know, kind of there was a
time in the naughties when you know USBM was bands
like Kobolt and Natmistium and you know, Walls and the
Throne and were just coming up at that time and
stuff like that, you know, bands who were kind of
setting out the standard of this really exciting movement that
was that was going on. And Cobolt are one of
the most idiosyncratic, immediately identifiable bands out of anyone to
(22:58):
break at that time. They are one of the most
like primarily aggressive, Like they have an ability to just
flick the switch of just like the you know, lizard
brain just animal violent instate in a way that few
bands I've ever heard really managed to tap into that.
But their sound was laced with so much of like
(23:20):
what was exciting about the kind of new frontier of
extreme metal in the two thousands. It was there in
Cobolt with you know, post metally neurosis or isis kind
of passages tool Like I don't know if I've ever
heard a band honestly do tool in a new kind
of context without it just feeling like, oh, here's a
two minute kind of chin strokey tool passage, but like
(23:42):
taking such you know, innovative influence, if that makes sense,
like taking something from somewhere and doing it in a
totally new way that you would not expect at all.
I've never heard a band do that with tools music
the way that American black metal band Cobalts sitting around
their campfires and riding their horses and in that kind
of world of you know, Western black metal. They were
(24:02):
doing do that to the point that a few years ago,
like when I was kind of you know, first starting
to program that's not matter, I suppose, and we were
doing album clubs every week, and I was like, Okay,
you know, I've got a bit of room to you know,
like we can sort of breathe a bit of new
life in terms of the kind of records that would
come on too album club And when I was thinking
of like, what would be you know, a really interesting
(24:23):
sort of maybe a deeper poll for your average audience,
but like a really striking and just something that would
just show how cool and diverse underground metal could be.
Pretty early on, I went for Gin by Cobolt, which
is one of the like masterpiece records of extreme metal
and black metal in in the two thousands. Pregnant Insect
(24:45):
is the best song that Jabo ever sings on the
title track of Eter of Birds has one of the
craziest explosions of violence, just like carnal violence in a riff.
Ever put to tape, it's overwhel filming. And they, you know,
over the years they've kind of become and if you know,
you know band, because they've been silent for quite a
(25:07):
long time. But I have to think that they were
such an influence and inspiration on some of the new
bands we're enjoying today. You know, the way that there's
such a kind of a scene of like so many
of the best and exciting acclaimed extreme bands coming around
from places like Colorado in the US, That's where Cobalt
were from. And you know, members of bands like Wayfairer
were cutting their teeth in the live band of Cobalt
(25:27):
and stuff like that. And the three album curve of
Era Birds, Gin and Slow Forever, the final double album
is one of the best three album curves of contemporary
twenty first century modern extreme metal. And I was, you know,
I was already missing them in terms of the nearly
ten years now since the flut slof Forever record came out,
but you know, now continuing on, no one was really
(25:50):
able to touch what they were doing. No one wrote riffs,
played drums, arranged music the way that Eric from Cobalt
did it. They were so individualistic and I I desperately
I was holding out hope for so long for another
album after Slow Forever and a tour as well, because
they looked sensational life, particularly that last line up with
Charlie Fell on vocals. I wanted it live so badly,
(26:13):
and I'm desperately sad that we now won't hear more
from him. But if you don't know anything I've just
spoken about and that kind of interests you, Cobolt. Those
records I was talking about from the you know, the
late twenty of the early twenty tens, some of the
best records of the world that I love. And this
is a really big loss for me. I think that
(26:34):
Eric from Cobalt has gone. So I just wanted to
pay my respects there to someone who really in the
underground leaves an incredible legacy of music. So what else
have we got going on in the That's not a
Metal world on the Patreon this past week, which if
anybody wants to support us, the best way to do
so is to sign up at the Patreon And it
(26:56):
means so much it means the world because you basically
keep us going by doing that. But in the past
week or so, Sam and I we returned to our
horror podcast, T's Horror Series, where we put up a
very in depth it took a lot of work to
really kind of dive into the guts of what those
things are about episode on the twenty eight Days Later
(27:16):
series that you know, currently a trilli of trilogy of
there will be More, And like I said, it was,
you know, in terms of a modern kind of title
that really just has so much going along. I think
there is almost a narrative arc of tracking history, particularly
of the British Isles, you know, through those three movies.
Getting into that was you know, very it was stimulating
(27:38):
Mark you and not on that show, but I know
that you are a big you know twenty eight days
Later head generally, and you were also absolutely baffled and
thrown by the way that twenty eight years Later ended
its final minutes.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right that they're cooking, aren't they They're cooking something?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
What the fuck? Man? The I'm so interested. There's got
a bit like there's gonna be a reason for it,
and I cannot fucking wait.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, I can't wait either.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But that is the stuff that we are diving into
on our newest episode about twenty days, twenty days, twenty
eight weeks and twenty eight years later, some interesting stepment
of twenty eight weeks as the generally kind of underdiscussed one.
So that was the latest thing to go up. And then,
as I said, I believe last week, once I returned
from Bloodstock, we are going to really be cooking our
next music special, Mark smiling, because Mark has an interesting
(28:31):
role in this thing. It's gonna be a lot that's
going on there. So if you want to see what's
happening there, as said patron dot com slash, that's the
metal is the place to hear everything that we've got
going on over there and all of the most ridiculous
and most in depth. I think those two things I've
just discussed and laid out do kind of cover both
bases there stuff that we make. So yeah, cheers, everybody.
(28:52):
Let's end this on releases for the eighth of August
twenty twenty five. And like I lude to up tot
as kind of an interesting, I don't know, diverse batch
of names where you go ay for some of them
up today so we're gonna start with Baby Metal their
new album Metal Fourth. They are, you know, quite productive
(29:13):
these days, really, aren't. They've always got seem to have
something around the corner from baby Metal, constant collaborations and whatnot.
I'm sure this record will be full of them. So
the new Baby Metal record is out. Hailstorm are back
with their record calld Everest. I saw several of these
songs live supporting Iron Maiden the other week, so the
new Hailstorm record is out. Good Charlotte have a record
out as well called Motel Do cap mark? Do you
(29:36):
have thoughts or opinions on an upcoming Good Charlotte record?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I heard one of the singles and it was one
of the worst songs I've heard this year.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Good endorsement and if you want to carry that on.
Lord of the Lost are back with not a covers
album this time, but seemingly the first of a series
of records.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
They're releasing an album.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Called Opus Noir Volume one.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
So.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hopefully it's worth a volume two. I guess I may
see some Lord of the Lost this weekend because they're
are bloodstock, so count me in.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Again, I guess.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
As December falls, the UK pop rock band. I guess
they've got a record called Everything's on Fire. But I'm
fine first Born, which is the sort of like I know,
trad rocky trad metal band that Chris Adler joined after
leaving Lamb of God. They've got a record called Lucky.
This is the one that really jumped out when I
was like a looking at the listings, Attack Attack with
(30:32):
a record called Attack Attack Too. Now I don't know,
I am aware Attack Attack there are variants of them, right,
and it's down to how many exclamation marks they have.
I think I'm right in saying there there's attack exclamation mark,
Attack exclamation mark, and then a different band with just
the one exclamation mark at the end. This is the
single exclamation mark Attack Attack exclamation mark. So when it
(30:53):
was Attack Attack two, I was like, surely Attack Attack.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Of more albums than that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But I guess this is the other Attack Attack It
might be to do. I don't know if like Caleb
Schomo or whoever is involved with this, whichever, I'm not
down with the attack Attacked lineage. But one of the
Attack Attacks has attack Attack too out and a trust
mark that you will go listen to it and tell
me about it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So that I don't actually have.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
To into the underground. Black Braid a back with Black
Braid three more albums than Attack Attack. The third Black
Braid album obviously the second Black Braid album for a
couple of years ago, I thought was excellent.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
So looking forward to getting stuck into that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Since Sanam are back with an album called in Devastation
if you vaguely remember that name. That was a kind
of death metal band that featured Joey Jordison on the drums,
as well as like several like extreme metal legends like
a Tilla from Mayhem is on vocals and stuff like that.
And obviously Joey Jordison is no longer part of this.
I think that this is an album that they kind
(31:52):
of had in the works and they've got another drummer
and to kind of like finish it and put it
out in his memory to some degree. But you know,
after a few years distance, insaneom album is seeing the
light of day. The Japanese, I guess Black Kay's band
as soon a Yokai. They have returned with an album
this week. I didn't know what's coming, but it's called
Think of You and Mark, I know that you like
that band a fair bit because it's Japanese dream poppy
(32:15):
style black metal, which is like Mark all over.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yep. I had no idea about this until right now,
and I'm very excited to hear it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yep, you will go right after this, I'm sure. A
band that I love the Irish death metal band Malthusian
with Johnny King on the drums, who's played drums for Otter,
was of Plague Cone and several great bands. They are
back with their second full length album. They take quite
a long time between their albums, so this is a
bit of an event called the Summoning Bell, and with
this one they've stepped up from one of the small
little extreme metal labels Thatch I knew them to be on,
(32:45):
so now they're on relapse with this. So maybe a
bit more going on with Althusian, which is interesting to say,
but I love that band, so I'm looking I was
getting stuck into that as well. That's probably the release
I'm most looking forward to hearing this week, although I'm
also looking forward to hearing the EP that's coming out
from Cryptsom called Saturnian Apprentices, the great trad doom metal
band following up their fantastic last album with an EP
(33:07):
of some pretty good sounding i'm sure new tracks and
their cover of Mayhem's Mysteries Dum Satanas is on there,
which what a pick for a cleanly sung doom metal
bands to be doing. Fantastic and then there's a second
EP as well from the death core band Aversions Crown,
who are returning with a record called A Voice from
(33:28):
the Outer Dark. So that's your lot. You know which way,
Western man, I'm sure there's lots of directions you could
be going out of all of those cool stuff. Next week. Well, actually,
you know, this coming weekend as you are hearing this,
will be at Bloodstock Festival. So next week we'll be
back with coverage from said festival. We'll be letting you
know the best stuff that happened. Obviously, the announcement for
(33:49):
next year is coming as well, but we will be
back with that and then we'll keep all the usual
things rolling. So cheers everybody for being with us this time.
Let us know, of course, you have to let us
know the hot topic of the week, what are your
opinions on Daily Havoc's facial hair, And we will see
you again next time.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Bye bye,
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