Owen Sound & Soo: Intriguing Teams to Watch in the OHL's Western Conference? - OHL Overtime - The Armchair GM's Sports Network

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when this comes out, So we're we're getting there. We're
almost quarterway through the season. Can't even really believe it,
but we're gonna chat about two intriguing teams so far
in the Western Conference. We're gonna hear a little bit
later about the Sue Greyhounds, but in the first segment today,
as you can see on the video version, a very
pleased to be joined today by the color commentator on
RTV Gray County and the host of the Bear Tracker podcast.

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That'd be the one and only Jc Coots. JC thanks
so much for coming on today and again Owen Sound
has been an intriguing team so far. It's really looking
forward to hearing your insight on what's going on over there.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thanks Brandon. Great to be here.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
This this already looks way better than my podcast.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
So this is this is awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
I am making notes of what to steal as soon
as we're done. I'm gonna start implementing some of this
right away.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm flattered by that. Hey, we're we're all in this
together and in our own uh in our own way here.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
In the media world.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
But uh yeah, as far as anything you want to
plug before we we go ahead, Jac, I know you
know the bear Tracker podcast. Where can people find that
and how often does it come out?

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Uh, We typically published every Sunday evening, usually after the
slate of weekend games are done, which you can find
it wherever you get your podcasts. There's a YouTube version
as well, so there's audio and video of the podcast.
And we're yeah, we're in season number two now with
with weekly releases, it's a lot of fun. Our next

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episode actually is gonna come out a little bit early
this week with uh, I've got Max Stillill talking about
his gold medal win. I've got the newest member of
the Sound Attack, Kayden Taylor, to learn more about him.
Plus our good friend Adrian Moosso for another Moose on
the Loose segment. So we're talking about the upcoming CHL
Top Prospects Challenge. So it's gonna be a good episode

(03:14):
out early for Attack fans this week.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Great stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
So as we talk about the Owen Sound Attack, you know,
comparatively to what they were last season as a team
that snuck into the playoffs in the Western Conference as
that that eighth and final playoff team and then had
to go up against the juggernaut London Knights. Never a
fun thing, but seemed like they learned a lot from
what last season was under that new new coaching staff

(03:38):
there under Scott Ray and Brandon Shaw and just to
name a few, but now sitting first place in the
Midwest Division with the likes of Kitchener in London. I
know that the Owen sound attack we're expecting to rise
up the boards this year. But for somebody that's around
the team, covering the team, did you even expect them
to be, you know, second place in the Western Conference
as of now?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
No, I'll be honest, I don't think any many of
us did. I think that with the amount of turnover
that happened with players between last season in this season,
it was honestly hard to really predict anything. I feel
like most of us in the local media kind of
felt that a home playoff situation, finishing top four was

(04:19):
something that was achievable. But to get off to the start,
they got to see immediate contribution from the new guys.
I mean, typically when you turn over ten or eleven players,
I think it was eleven players they turned over from
last year's roster, that takes some time to get going,
Like it takes time to build chemistry, especially new guys
coming in from the USHL backgrounds, some coming in from

(04:43):
junior A backgrounds in Western Canada. Like it really was
a missmash of new faces with different backgrounds, but somehow
they all clicked. And I think that that's part of
what general manager Dale Degray is considering when he goes
out to acquire new players is whether or not a

(05:04):
they're going to fit in with what the coaching staff
is trying to bring to the table, which is a
blue color mentality. Everybody works hard, next man up mentality,
You're gonna work hard on the power play, work hard
on the penalty kill, You're gonna have that feeling of
never being out of a game. So you're looking for
guys that fit that mold. Plus you're looking for guys

(05:25):
that are just generally good people around the room, and
I think that you can give them full marks. I
think the guys that he found identified and brought in
all met that and that's why they had success so early.
And as time has gone on and they face certain challenges,
including a lot of injuries as of late, they continue

(05:47):
to perform well.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
So it's it's been a.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Fun thing to watch to have a competitive team, and
one it seems like it's destined to finish probably for
their best finished I'm going to say probably the last
four five years now.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, absolutely, And when you look at sort of their
last stretch of games there, I know that that four
game losing streak, but they bounce back from it winning
three in a row, you know, the hard fought game
against London and then the big win in Oshawa again,
not just because of it being the Oshawa Generals and
sort of going through a rebuild year this year, but
you know, for guys like Tristan Delisle and David bed Kowski,

(06:22):
two guys that were former Oshawa Generals, going back there
and being able to come away with the victory and
in the way that they did, scoring four goals in
the second period, it just seems like this team has
a lot of confidence and swagger that maybe people hadn't expected,
and it seems like they're they're really, you know, gelling
as a as a group, as a unit. And we
knew under a guy like Scott ray with all the

(06:42):
success he had with the North Bay Battalion under Ryan Ullahan,
that it was going to take some time, but it
was going to come to fruition. So do you sort
of see the plan and the identity of what this
attack team wants to play this season.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, it's it's pretty evident every time they step on
the ice they're really proving that this system. They have
told a lot into it, right up and down the lineup,
and it's amazing to watch because it started last year
with a lot of rookies in the lineup and the

(07:16):
one thing that we really noticed was that even if
you go out and you make a mistake, you're out
the next shift. You're not getting benched too. You don't
have to worry about that. It's as Scott has said
many times, this is a development league and we're going
to give everybody time to develop and grow and become something.
And I think that was huge last year, especially for

(07:37):
a lot of rookies in the lineup, including Pierce Bowie
who ended up winning the Ohl Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
It was just that you.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Know, longer leash to go out and feel like it's
okay to make a mistake because you won't miss another
shift after that. So I think that's really helped with
the mentality of the players. It's certainly a much different
approach and message in the room than it was the
previous year before Scott and Brandon Shaw and Regan O'Grady

(08:07):
had arrived. Like they've really taken over over the town,
and I mean taking over the town, Like they all
bought houses in Owen Sound this year for the first time,
and I can't even tell you how long they actually
ran hockey camps during winter and summer breaks. Like they're
fully committed to the community, which has gone over huge

(08:27):
because you know, Owen Sounds the smallest market in the OHL.
Everybody in the community. If it's a sold out Bay Shore,
that means one in ten people that live in Owen
Sound are at the game. So great opportunity, I guess
if you're robin houses because you know they're probably at
the attack game. But it's such to see people that

(08:47):
are involved in the community really reflects well and it
reflects on the players. Like just today, players were out
of school visiting kids just outside of Markdale and they
that's a regular currents. They're always going into the schools
and engaging in the community and all of that I
think helps equal success on the ice. And it's a

(09:11):
really cool kind of an atmosphere that this coaching staff
has created.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
And you mentioned there Pierce booeye Rookie of the Year
last season, draft year this year for the National Hockey League, Like,
do you see as great of it as he was
in his rookie season? Do you see you know, the
evolution of him in his second year and sort of
the confidence leading the team in points. You know, just
seems like a very good guy off the ice as
well for the team chemistry side of things, like what

(09:40):
do you see from Pierce Bowe that maybe just some
of us that don't get to watch him on a
daily basis or be around him, that's you know, makes
him so special.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Well, the one thing last year that we noticed about him,
I mean, he's not the biggest guy on the ice,
and he got hit hard a lot year. Then you
got worried, but he normally would bounce back right away.
Last year ended up being a genius move to put
him on a line with Landon Hookey, who was the

(10:10):
captain last season has since gone on to play playing
now with the Belleville Senators in the AHL. So I
mean that was just a genius move.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
On the part of.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
The coaching staff to give him a bit of protection.
This year, they've kind of put different line mates with
him trying to get add more size to the lineup
as they've done, and it seems like if he feels
as though he can go out there and do more,
he will. I think, as with any small skilled player,
you do need to know that someone's got your back.
This year, the assignment's been changing up as of late,

(10:44):
it's been Harry Nancy and those two. Oh man, have
they been dynamite on the ice together. I'm not sure
if they're going to stick together now with Kayden Taylor
coming into the lineup, but it's just it's really fun
to watch him grow and I think he he's grown
literally a little bit over the summer. He's a little
bit bigger and a little bit beefier and with that skill,

(11:06):
I mean, if he continues to go at the pace
he's at now, he's just going to move up and
up that NHL draft order and some team is going
to get a really special player in Peter S.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Booey.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah. I couldn't agree more. Such a fun player to watch, and.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Even if you don't get it to tune into Owen
Sound Attack games, he's definitely a guy that you want
to tune into and watch more times than not you
mentioned there with with Cayden Taylor and that was the
big trade earlier this week. I know the time of
recording this, he had actually gone and spoke with Kayden
Taylor earlier today down at the rink. So you know,
this is a guy that had a lot of promise,

(11:42):
was a you know, first round talent from the Studbury Wolves,
got traded to Peterborough and now the Owen Sound Attack
pick him up for a third round pick and a
conditional sixth round pick. So seems like a very low risk,
high reward type of move for Dale de Gray to
be able to go out and get a guy like
Cayden Taylor. You know what sort of the vibe right
now bringing in a guy like.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Him, Well, I think to Dale's credit, he's had a
lot of luck in the last few years of for
lack of a better turn, finding these reclamation projects of
guys who maybe had played down a little bit with
EAMs that are with or guys that needed a fresh start,
and he just has an eye for those types of
players that are going to be able to come into

(12:24):
the system and thrive and adapt and be more part
of the team. And I think what we're seeing here
with Kayden Taylor. I mean it's just been two practices
now that he's worked out with the team, but getting
a sense of talking to the guys today after they
came off the ice, they're really happy to have him.
He had his familiarity with a number of players, including

(12:48):
Pierce Bowey and Jake Crawford and quite a few other
players on the team. It sounded like he mentioned he's
been lining up with Harry Nanty and Noah Nelson. Don't
know if that's who's can line up with Friday night
in London when they play their first game together, but
that's going to be a big exciting line to watch
if that is the case. But just talking to you about,

(13:11):
you know, what happened in Peterborough, it sounds like it
became a situation of both sides. I think needed a
change and you know it's you never like to see it,
but Dale's been on both sides of the equation, including
with some recent players that just said hey, I need
a change, whether it's I want to be closer to
home or whether it's you know, I'm not finding the

(13:32):
role that I want here. Is there a possibility you
can send me somewhere we're all get that thing that
I'm looking for, and I think it's the same for
kat and Taylor. I think he just didn't quite fit
into what Peterborough wanted him to be, and now he's
got a chance to be that with the Owen Sound Attack.
So I think it's exciting, especially when you look at

(13:53):
some of the numbers that he's put up in the past,
and his U sixteen numbers were unbelievable. So hundred and
twenty one points in sixty games, fifty eight goals like
just crazy numbers. So if he can rediscover that part
of his game, and with a lot of skilled players
around him, I think it's probably a safe bet for Dale.

(14:14):
A third round pick and a conditional fifth not a
lot when you consider what the price was to get
Wesley Royston it was Michael Deck. So to not have
to give up anybody on your current roster and add
somebody that is potentially a great power forward, I think
that's just a big win for the Owen Sound Attack.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, and you're trying to try to fit him in.
I've got your the last lineup for the attack up
on the screen and now adding Katie Taylor to that
as you mentioned sort of what maybe the lineup combinations
could look like going into tonight's game, But it definitely
is something that I think Scott Ray's going to welcome
adding to his lineup card for sure, especially with Mason
Ray being out long term.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
That was an unfortunate injury for him.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
But you know, the the attack and going down into
the defensive side, and even the goaltending, which I think
is something that a lot of people talk about. With
Owen Sound, They've got very solid goaltending. There a lot
of guys that are capable of doing the job, with
Carter George obviously being La King's second round pick and
a lot of high hopes for him in the pro ranks,
but Tristan Bennett has been just as solid in the

(15:21):
net as well. So what are you thinking of this
sort of two to three headed monster that the Owen
Sound Attack have in net? And you know, a rag
of riches, I guess you could say in between the pipes.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, it's a good problem to have.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
The coaching staff is certainly happy to have the problem,
but at the same time it becomes an issue of
who do you start and when. With Carter George, I know,
one of the things that they were concerned with him
last year is that he played too much, and they
know that because himself mentioned that it was finding a

(15:54):
way to help reduce Harder's workload a little bit. Especially,
I mean, he's thinking about this and thinking about the
World Juniors. He's going to likely be a lock to
be Canada's goals tender again at the World Juniors. So
giving him a little bit more of a chance to
rest in between starts is a good thing. Impressed everybody

(16:15):
last year. In the very few starts he had, he
looked great and he played Kentville seventy threes in Junior
B last season, ended up getting drafted by the Devils
this year, so all of a sudden, you have to
have him here at this level like he needs to
be here. And Matthew Kaprowski, who has shown a lot

(16:35):
of promise this year. He started the summer with the
Maple Leafs organization at their rookie camp, ended up finishing
in Saint Louis with the Blues and stayed with them
a little longer than anticipated, which is a good thing.
But he just has not been able to find his
form yet, which is unfortunate because I mean, he's a
great kid, he's got the skills, we've seen him do

(16:58):
it before, but in talking with him in the past,
it just seems like he's putting a lot of pressure
off and understandably. So you're seeing what Carter George is doing.
You're you're arguably behind the best goaltender in Canada right now.
And then you've got Trenton Bennett, who has come up
and look great in all of his starts except for
a couple of little blemishes this season, namely the school

(17:20):
game in Sarnia last week, but other than that he's
been Now you're trying to elevate your play to match
two other guys and also try to work your way
into the when possible. That's a lot of pressure for
a young guy. So I can kind of see why
he's in the position he's in. I keep my fingers crossed.
You know, he's going to get another start here as

(17:41):
soon as possible to show what he can do. But
it's been tough, and it sounds like the coaching staff
is trying to give Carter George two out of every
three starts.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Now.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I don't know if that's going to stick, but Carter
is going to get the majority of the workload. Bennett's
going to have to make appearances, but it will be
Benett and Kapowski as soon as we lose Carter, which
is probably gonna be for three or four weeks if
not more for World camps. So Kapowski's role is about
to get expanded. He's just working on a few things

(18:14):
in the meantime and hopefully he bound bigger than ever.
And then unfortunately for the Attack, they're gonna January towards
the trade deadline and they're gonna real big decisions to make.
But at this point, would love to see Matthew get
back into the game and the other two guys to
be rolling really well.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I mean that's a great point that, you know,
to have those other two guys rolling because Carter George
is gonna be leaving for three or four weeks for the.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
The Hockey Candida Camp for the World Juniors.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
To have that organizational depth for a team like Going
Sound right now that's sitting second in the conference, I
think is definitely important. And again, as you mentioned trade deadline,
you never know what could happen, but I think Going
Sound definitely a good problem to have. But again, a
decision might have to be made at some point. But
before we let you go, JC being a Savers guy,
and we have a Sabers show as well on this network,

(19:04):
I have to ask you about David Bedkowski, not just
because he's a Sabers draft pick, but because he is
the captain of the Owen Sound Attack. You know, went
away to the Sabers development camp, learned a lot there,
spoke to him there. Seemed like he was so excited
to get back to own sound and for good reason,
they put the sea on his chest.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
So it what have you seen from him as a leader?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Again, not a guy that's gonna put up the most points,
but you know, a big presence on the ice. Is
a six foot six, you know, defenseman. But how do
you think he's molded into that captaincy role? And you know,
how have you liked this game so far this season?

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Well, I mean he's a great he's orn leader.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
We all knew last season heading towards you season, obviously
Landon Hookey was an over ager and was going to
move on. So we started murmuring with you, like, who
do you think is going to be the next captain?
And all across the board, everybody said David Bedkowski, like
he just carries himself that way. And U on the ice,

(20:00):
I mean, he is huge. He can put guys through
the boards if he wants to. He sees the ice
really well. He as a captain, He's very quick to
jump up and protect his players. He's not afraid to
drop the gloves. He's as tough as they come. I
think the only knock on him would or the knock

(20:21):
on him would be you know, occasionally he takes too
many penalties, and it's usually in defense of a teammate
or or or trying to get the team fired up.
So he's he's very quickly kind of discovering that fine
line between Okay, I need to be a captain and
a leader, but I also got to stay out of
the bucks because they need me as well for my
defensive abilities. So he's trying to figure out how to

(20:45):
bring that balance to his game. But I mean, he
is the real deal. We're going to see him patrolling
an NHL blue line for a long long time after
his junior hockey career is done. He's a he's got
a big heart, for sure. He knows how to have fun.
I'm sure we all saw the viral clip of the
team at the driving range, the indoor driving lane in

(21:07):
North Bay when he lost the glove or lost the
club and it flew into the kitchen. I mean, he'll
be the first to laugh about that and then tell
you how much fun it was. And that's just who
you want as a captain. You want a guy that
can laugh at themselves but can also you know, play
a great physical game on the ice. So he's a
complete player and we're lucky that we have him as

(21:30):
a captain.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
And I think he's.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
A great leader for a blue line that's got a
lot of skill on which I think also takes the
pressure off him a little bit as we've got skilled
guys like Jonathan Banks who can run the power play
now and David can focus more on a shutdown role
and on using that big physical body to move guys
as opposed to having the lead rushes. So I think

(21:54):
that's really helped as he figures out how to properly
balance his game.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
And yeah, sort of, jac we wrap up like it
sort of seems like Owen Sound has gone through, you know,
the great cycle of junior hockey, right, you make the
tough decision to trade Kobe Barlow is a longtime own
Sound Attack, but you look at the pieces that came
back and David Bedkowski, you know Delil as well, Like
you look at sort of how that has worked out
for Owen Sound and now they're coming out on the
other side of it and being a competitive team. So

(22:21):
when you make those tough decisions, and Dale de gray
has made, you know, the tough decisions when he needs
to in the past. So with a trade like that
and how it's sort of been working out for the
organization now, Like I guess would that just be you know,
how how it works out in your favor down the
road when you make a tough deal like that.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah, Dale's seemed to have out on the better end
of a lot of those deals he's had to make.
As of lates, I mean that Barlow deal. You could
have given me one of those guys and I would
have been happy, But we got two of them back
in that deal.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Which has been incredible.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
And then trades like you know the year before, acquiring
Sam McHugh and Connor Smith at the deadline from Peterborough
who ended up being great, And then you're able to
flip McHugh and pick.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Up Cole Zaroski like, yep, it's.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
It really is.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
If you're a general manager, it's a chess game and
trying to figure out how all these pieces fit and
how to best move them. And now you factor in
the NC double A thing, which pretty much if you're
in real manager that goes by your plans, that's out
the window because now, as Dale has said, it's kind
of a year to year plan that he almost has
to operate with now because you never know if you're

(23:29):
going to lose somebody to NC double A or how
long they're possibly going to stay, and whether or not
you can build around one talented young guy. So the
whole dynamic has changed, and I feel that when it
comes to general managers that are quickly adapting to what
is now the new reality of major junior hockey, he's
one of the guy guys that gets it. He sees

(23:50):
it really well. He's a great judge of character. I
hope he never retires or want leave because we will
lose a lot if we lose Dale to Gray. So yeah,
he's he's one of the best people to talk to.
He's an open book. He does every year Dale and Scott. Actually,

(24:11):
probably twice a year they do meetings with the fans.
So right before a game, they'll open up a room
in the Big Shore. They can ask any questions. Dale
will answer all of them as honestly as he possibly can.
And that's just something great to have that kind of
open transparency through from management, because you don't get that
with every team. But you know what, the Owen sent

(24:34):
a tag. Even if you walk up to Dale in
the stands when he's witching warmups, you can talk to
him if you're a fan, and he will answer questions
and you can give him the gears a little bit
too if there's something that's bothering you and he will listen. So,
I mean, he's just that kind of a guy, and
it's it's just the right kind of guy to be
running a team in a market like this.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, it's it's definitely one of a kind in the
in the Ohl and all the as well. So when
you look at the Owen sound attack, and I usually
ask every correspondent that comes on a player to watch,
but I think it's probably gonna be Kaden Taylor would
be here guy that you need to watch here in
the next month or two as we see him make
his own sound attack debut tonight.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Most likely.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I mean that is that is no doubt the most
new intrigue we have, and seeing what's going to come
out of him. Up to this point, it's been a
lot of fun to watch Nick Sakora play.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
He's been very entertaining.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Max de Lille now with that new gold, but he
he just won it through seventeens. I think that now
he's probably going to see a little bit of a
resurgence from him now that he's back from that tournament.
He'll be interesting to watch. Wesley Royston's the first game
didn't go so well as he tried to figure things out.
Plus he was also playing his old team in his

(25:50):
first game, but he's had goals in games since, so again,
watching these new pieces fit in with the other pieces,
it's been a lot of fun, fun, and this is
a team that all four lines can be you you
have no idea the goal scoring is going to come from.
Last year, we had no idea where the goals were
going to come from period. This year, we don't know

(26:12):
which line's going to score, but one of them is.
And it's a really fun, exciting team to watch. I
would call them a young team, but we with the
acquisition of Caden Taylor. We found out today that Owen
Sound now has the most OHL games played of any
team in the league, but they're still about middle of
the pack, about tenth when it comes to average age.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
And it should be noted too, it's.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Great Cowan noted in the Owen Sound sometimes that previous
teams that have had most games of experience have normally
gone on to win championship. So I'm not saying that
guarantees anything. I'm just saying it makes it pretty fun
to watch the rest of the way this year.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Definitely an interesting stat and again we'll see how the
Owen Sound Attack fare out the rest of the season.
But great start, first place in the Midwest Division, but
amazing stuff if there. JC Coots the color commentator for
the Owen Sound Attack games on our TV Gray County
and as well the host of the Bear Tracker podcast
every single week. Jac thanks so much for the great
analysis of the Attack and look forward to seeing where

(27:13):
they shape out the next time.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
We have you on later on in the in the season.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Thanks so much for having me on, Brandon, and we'll
have you on mine as well. I'll return the favor
the next time we've got the ice dogs around. So
for looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, And I got to get up to get some
of those Owen Sound fries. The best in the league
by far, and it's not even close. And I think
about them a lot, but thankfully I'm not there a lot,
because then I'd be uh, it wouldn't be good for
my health. But regardless of that great stuff, there as
always J C. Coots here talking Owen Sound Attack in
the first segment. We'll be right back talking to Sue
Greyhounds on the second part of today's show right here

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on OHL Overtime on the Armchair GM Sports Network.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 3 (29:34):
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Speaker 1 (30:03):
And welcome back to part two of today's OHL Overtime
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Brandick putto back with you, and I'm pleased to be
joined by another great guest corresponding today and that would
be a sports reporter for the Suit today covering the
Sue Greyhounds. That would be a Brad coach, Emilio Brad,
thanks so much for being able to come on today

(30:45):
and give us some great insight. Hopefully not too much
snow up there right now in Sue Saint Marie with
what we got down here in the Nagara region.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But you know, thanks, thanks for doing this tonight.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yeah, totally happy to happy to jump on. I'm glad,
I was saying kind of off air, and glad, glad
you're doing this. It's nice to have nice to have
stuff like this going on around the league. And thankfully
we haven't got dumped on with snow like like we
did last November yet, So fingers crossed we get through
the month of November without uh, without a big dumping
up here for sure.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, hopefully for your guys' sake.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I know it can be can be quite the winter
up there, uh with the Sue Greyhounds. So uh again,
the Sue Greyhounds are a team that, for many reasons,
are not just what happened last weekend with the Barry
Colts is We're not really going to get into with
that situation.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
But they're an intriguing team so far this year.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Brad and and when you look at where they are
second place in the West Division, you know, windsor spitfires
are classes of the Western Conference right now when they're
they're trailing them. But uh, you know, what, what have
you thought so far of Sue's start and a team
that was seventh place in the West last year and
looks like they're they have higher hopes than that, especially
with Brady Martin being able to come back from Nashville.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
Yeah, totally. I mean, this is uh, this is a
team that you know, I I I think we I
A lot of people myself included, expected them to take
a step to year with you know, a big, big
returning class. You know that included, like you said, a
guy like Brady Martin that you know, I I I'm
not surprised that he had stuck with with Nashville. Maybe

(32:12):
a little surprised that he didn't stick with maybe a
little longer and get that, you know, kind of full
nine games. But uh, you know, a team that, uh,
the expectations kind of you know, kind of grew early,
you know, in an interesting case in the West Division.
Just that you know, everyone knew coming into the year
that Winsor was going to be really good and probably
going to be you know, not only the best team

(32:34):
in the division, but potentially the best team in the
UH in the conference. And you know, we're at a
we're at a point right now where you know, this
is a group that's you know, kind of in an
in an interesting position because they're you know, in a
in a mix that includes you know, Owen Sound, Kitchener, London.

(32:55):
You know, Flint's very tight in there, Guelf's not far back,
like there's a there's a lot of teams kind of
hovering at that you know, nine ten eleven win market
at this point. So you know, they're in an interesting position.
You know, I feel like this team's got a lot
of high hopes, you know, talking to Kyle raft Is,
talking to John d and the players. You know, I'll

(33:15):
have this real high expectation for themselves, and you know
they're going into UH going into an interesting stretcher with
you know, some games coming up against you know, against
the Winsors, against the London's. You know, so we really
get a good idea of where this team kind of
kind of stands at this point. But you know, they've
certainly when this team's playing well, they've certainly been a

(33:37):
lot of fun to watch at this point. So you know,
definitely definitely been an interesting team and uh, you know
a lot of kind of interesting storylines with uh, with
them going forward here.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, and you look at their last ten again, you know,
two game losing streak, three game winning streak, two game
losing streak, and then that that win against the Barry
Colts that was widely talked about around round junior hockey
the last week. But uh, you know, when you when
you look at the SUE team, Brad, and you know,
your years of covering the Greyhounds and things like that,
and when you look at at where they are sort

(34:10):
of in their cycle, and how junior hockey has changed
with the n C Double A agreement and players being
able to come and go a lot more frequent than
than they would in past years.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
You know, like as far.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
As Sue's ability to attract players and the ability to
get players to commit, get players to sign those US
players as well, like, how has the dynamic been so
far this year for for Kyle Raftis, As you mentioned,
the general manager and John Deane being able to manage
some of those new players coming in that they wouldn't
have had and sort of what the dynamic of this

(34:43):
team and sort of I guess the identity of them
this season.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
Yeah, you know what I mean, they're not. They're in
an interesting position because they're you know, they've got a
seemingly a good reputation around, you know, among players. Uh,
you know, a lot of guys get you know, have
come into this city, you know, over the last you know,
eight ten years give or take, you know, since Kyle
Raftis and you know, preceding him, Kyle dubis As as

(35:10):
general manager. They've really put themselves in a good position
in terms of, you know, the way they treat players,
and players have kind of you know, wanted to come here.
And I think we're seeing that with the you know,
with the whole NC double a situation. You know, a
kid like Colin Crossker, he hasn't played, hasn't played yet
yet this year since the preseason, due to an injury,
but he's he's getting really close to getting back. He's

(35:33):
a you know, Michigan State commit, a real high end
defenseman that they took in the second round of the
twenty twenty four draft, and you know, I remember at
the time, Kyle raftis talking about him as a guy
that had he not had the NC double A commitment
at that point, you know, probably would have been a
first round pick somewhere and maybe you know, in the
upper half of the first round. And you know, they

(35:55):
get him, they get him pretty deep in that in
that draft because of that, and you know then then
the rule changes, uh you know last fall and you know,
now you're getting a guy like him in the lineup
this year that they expect to have as an and
him back is eight. You know Chase or uh, you know,
he's a he's a sorry, he's a Boston guy. I'm
thinking Chase Reid is the other guy who's the Michigan

(36:17):
State guy. You know, he's getting getting a little ahead
of myself. But Chase reads another one that you know,
they take him deep in the draft and uh, you
know he's a kid that uh, he came in. You know,
I I don't think anyone would have anticipated him being
appoint a game guy, you know, last year, but he
came in and you know, put up real big numbers

(36:37):
early on, and you know, he's a guy that's playing
nearly thirty minutes a night right now, getting cross Gery back,
you know, is gonna be a big help to that.
You know, he's gonna cross Gery, He's gonna take probably
a few of those minutes off. And it's you know,
it's it's kind of interesting to to kind of think
of it in the in the sense that you know,
a kid coming in as an eight berth year in

(36:59):
Cross Crey. You know, it's it's it's interesting to kind
of think of those guys as you know, guys are
gonna eat up minutes. But uh, you know an elite
player who you know Cross Crey was a guy who
was an elite player and you know had that commitment
to go down to Boston. You know, again, if that
NC double A rule doesn't change, you know, I don't
know necessarily that he that he ends up here for sure,

(37:22):
you know, but that's you know, good on Kyle Rafts
for you know, for building this program and building this
team to uh, you know in into one that you know,
guys like cross Great, guys like you have these high
commitments to or these big commitments to you know, high
end programs like the Boston Universities and the Boston colleges
and you know, the Michigan States, they're gonna get these guys.
You know, another interesting guys Quinn he Quinn McKenzie rather,

(37:45):
you know, a kid who came in into camp as
a free agent as a commitment to I believe it's
Penn State. And you know, he's another guy that comes
in as uh, you know, as an n C double,
a guy that uh, you know, has played well for
them and you know, giving them some depth up front. So,
I mean, Chaser, it's been a lot of fun to
watch cross Gray. I feel like it's gonna be a
lot of fun to watch as well when he gets
uh he gets healthy here. But you know, definitely taking

(38:07):
full advantage of the ability to you know, to to
have a good relationship and and treat your players really well.
And you know, when you do that, stuff like this
is gonna happen. You're gonna get these these higher end
guys that you're gonna be willing to commit to your program.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, and as you mentioned, Sue has some some high
end guys that are committed to NCAA program. So we'll
see how that that goes.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Affairs for them going forward into future years.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
We really don't even know the full landscape of how
this is going to go for another two or three years.
So everybody's going through it for the first time this season.
But you mentioned Chase REI and I want to stop there, Brad, because, Uh,
guy that's gonna be at the CCHL USA Prospects Challenge
in Lethbridge and Calgary coming up, A guy that has
a lot of eyes on him, you know, leading the
team in points as well, the guy that was a

(38:53):
seventh round pick just a few years ago in the
priority selection. So, uh, for a guy that's around Chase Ree,
you know all the time around the games, around the rink,
what does he like on and off the ice? And uh,
you know what makes him such a great great player
so far early in his career?

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Yeah, you know what off the ice I mean. And
I say this about a lot of guys that you
know that have come through, uh, come through the ground program.
He's a real good kid, you know. Uh. And you
know a lot of these guys they kind of they
deal with the media pretty regularly, uh, you know, especially
up here because you know there's three or four of
us that cover the team pretty regularly. You know, real
good kid off the ice. Uh, you know, he's gonna

(39:32):
you know, he seems to get along really well in
the in the room with that group, and you know,
on the ice, I mean, obviously his numbers speak for themselves.
He's uh, you know, he's been a point a game
guy basically since the second he set foot on uh
on the ice with a Greyhound jersey. And uh, you know,
this year it's been it's pretty pretty wild to watch
him play because he's a guy. We saw the the

(39:54):
OHL releasing some you know average uh you know, average
game minutes on nice uh there. I believe it was
in the last few days, and that you know, this
is a kid that's averaging like over twenty eight minutes
a night. It was a top pairing guy, you know,
and and and interesting because you know, again, you know,
he came into the years, you know, with thirty nine

(40:16):
games under his belt, and he's on the top pairing
with another guy who came into the you know, into
the OHL this year in Yakobwinklehoffer, who's a you know,
it has been another fun kid to watch on the
blue line. So you know, you've got to you know,
somewhat inexperienced guys on your top deep pairing. But they've
been you know, they've been playing really well together and
they really compliment each other really well, and you know

(40:38):
they've been seeing some power play time together, you know,
and and in a read again, uh, you know, with
that commitment to Michigan State, you don't necessarily it's not
a guarantee that you get him. And I think maybe
that's why he you know, falls as much as he
did in the draft in twenty twenty three. You know,
maybe he's uh, you know, maybe he's a top four
or five round guy, you know, if he doesn't have that,

(41:00):
but you know, again a kid that stepped in and
you know he's gonna easily top his uh, you know,
his offensive numbers from last year. And you know, again
he's a kid that's you know, working on his all
around game to try to you know, trying to make
that jump to the next level at you know, at
some point down the road. But you know, he's been
absolutely you know, he's I treat to watch and you know,

(41:21):
a lot of fun to deal with from from my
perspective is you know, he's a great kid as well.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Definitely interesting to see where he's gonna rise up the
rankings on the the NHL Central Scouting and where his
name could be called in next yearn's entry draft. Chasery
definitely an exceptional player from the back end for the
Sue Greyhounds. A couple of trades that John Dean or
excuse me, Kyle Raft has made earlier Brad this season
and just quickly going over them. Obviously, Charlie Charlie Hilton
got traded to UH the Oshawa Generals for for a

(41:49):
third round pick, which is a nice return there. And
then UH the trade that saved every single broadcaster in
the league with the Rady Smith being traded UH to
the Flint Firebirds for Jeremy Martin. A pretty significant swap
there of two guys that had a lot of promise
in their draft years coming into the Ontario Hockey League.

(42:10):
So what have you thought so far of of Martin
coming over to Sue and and why you think these
two trades, Uh, you know, we were I guess needed
for Kyle raftis to make here, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
They you know, maybe dialing back to the Hilton trade,
you know first, I mean that was that was a
deal he hadn't played in a little bit. He had
gone back home. He's from uh you know, he's from
the Aushawa area, and you know he had gone back
home for personal reasons, you know, and and that was
that was a deal. And I remember Kyle Raft just
saying it at the time, was you know that was

(42:39):
that was a deal. That was you know, it wasn't
necessarily just a hockey deal, you know, and you know
it's good for good for him. I mean, Charlie seemed
like a you know, a great kid, and you know,
seemed like he was really well liked around the room.
And you know, whatever those reasons were for him wanting
to be close to home, I mean, I can you know,
I can respect that. And you know, I'm you know,

(43:00):
never gonna never gonna harp on a kid for you know,
for for that type of thing, right. I mean this
is you know, some things at the end of the
day are just bigger than hockey, you know, like you said,
I mean, the Greyhounds get a you know, a good
return there where they deal him, and you know, a
sixth rounder down the road for you know, a third
rounder that uh you know they could be you know,
really good, and you know that tenth rounder you'd never know.

(43:20):
I mean, it's you know, the deeper in the draft
you go. You never know what what teams are gonna
be able to, uh to pull out of the later
rounds of the draft. And you know, the the Martin
Smith deal, like you said, that's uh, you know that
was that was a nice one because now i'm you know,
broadcasters reporters. It's been a lot easier not to have

(43:42):
to worry which Brady Smith I'm dealing with for when
I'm writing my stories now. And you know, the first time,
first time in a long time that I've had to
deal with middle initials and you know, Brady T and
Brady R and this that and the other thing. You know,
this was you know, again, this was a deal where
is you know, you don't see many of the one
for one deals, though we've seen a couple of them

(44:03):
this year. You don't usually see very many of them.
But you know, this is a deal that I think,
you know, both teams were looking to maybe get these guys,
you know, a new opportunity. You know, Brady Smith was
part of the Andrew Gibson trade last year. You know,
came in and you know we saw flashes of him
being a really good player. Last year. I mean, you know,

(44:25):
you could there were times where you could see that
Brady Smith that you could see the reason Brady Smith
was drafted where he was and the reason he put
up the numbers he did in minor hockey, and you know,
just for whatever reason, he's you know, finding that you know,
had a tough time kind of putting it all together
consistently at the ahel level. And you know, he's had

(44:45):
a couple of good nights in Flint. And you know,
on the other side, I mean, Jeremy Martin's kind of
the same thing. His numbers have been consistent and through
two years and we're consistent through two years in Flint.
But uh, you know, he's brought a he's brought a
good energy level of the great on roster. He's fitting well,
he's you know, he's scored a couple of timely goals
for them, you know, here early on, and you know,

(45:07):
seems to be a really good fit and giving them
some you know, some kind of you know, middle of
the lineup depth up front, and he's been he's been
a good fit so far, and you know it's gonna
be you know, interesting to see how he fits in
because you know, like we said earlier, this is a
great und team that you know, could conceivably be looking
to make some moves to to go all in, and

(45:28):
you know, this is a guy that they're probably going
to rely on to, you know, to give them that
depth and maybe give them a little bit of scoring
deeper in their lineup. So you know, high expectations for him,
I think, but uh, you know, again, he's a he's
a kid that seems to have brought a lot of
good things to the organization here early.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
On and then switching gears here Brad to the goaltending
and landon Miller the guy right now. But sort of
what what's the what's the thought there? And as you mentioned,
if the Sue Greyhounds are a team that's looking to
add to come the trade deadliner even before because he's
seen some some significant deals already here in the month
of November, like what what are you looking at for
possibly the back end or the or the goaltending. If

(46:06):
John Dene thinks that the team needs some upgrades there, Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
I mean it's no secret. I think you know a
lot of people, you know, when this team going into
the year, a lot of people questioned the goaltending and
said that that was probably you know, that was probably
the super hoand's biggest question our coming into the year,
you know, and and Landon Miller. Landon Miller really struggled
at times last year. But you know, I've always said
this about him that Landon is a kid that when

(46:31):
he's on, he's extremely good. You know. It's just again,
like a lot of kids at this and at this level,
he struggles with that consistency sometimes. And you know, I
think we've seen it a little bit this year. You know,
his goals against average is obviously uh, you know, has
obviously been pretty solid here early on. You know, you'd
like you'd like to see that save percentage, maybe bump

(46:53):
up a little more in him, you know, maybe make
some more saves. You know. But again, I look at
the league, and I've said this to a lot of
other people that the interesting thing sometimes you don't necessarily
need the league. You know. My prime example is always,

(47:14):
you know, I look back to the twenty seventeen year Otters.
They win an OHL title, Troy Timpano was their goaltender,
lost in the Memorial Cup final in Winsor that year,
and Troy Timpano couldn't get a job as an over
age in the league the following year with an OHL
title in his pocket. So you know, that's that's kind
of an interesting thing. You know, the Grehounds have struggled

(47:38):
at times defensively. They've been prone to, you know, mistakes
in the defensive zone, and I think at times that's
maybe led to you know, the issues in terms of,
you know, their goals against being a little higher than
they'd like it to be. And you know, I think
if this team shores up kind of the mistake aspect
of it in that regard, you probably see Landon Miller's

(47:58):
say percentage go up, and you probably even know a
tigelers as a backup, you probably see those numbers get
a little better if that team shores up a little more,
you know, on the defensive side with the mistakes for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Anything you want to mention about the power play because
that is one of the things where it looks like,
you know that they might want to want to correct
right now, sitting at fourteen point three percent. You know, what,
what do you think is because they've got the talent
up front, but what's just something that they are to
maybe tighten the bolts on there.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Yeah, you know, and this is a team that they
you know, they've started making some adjustments of late. You know,
they were they were very much a team where you know,
and I'm sure a lot of fans it's driven a
lot of people nuts around here where you know, it
was the whole slingshot aspect, where you know, a guy
skates through the neutral zone, drops it back to a

(48:46):
guy with the hope of generating speed through the neutral zone.
The Greyhounds were very big on that a lot last year,
and through the early parts of the year this year,
they've they've gotten away from that a little more in
their last endful of games and they seem to be
generating more chances off of it. You know. The Barry game,
they you know, they had, I mean, they had two

(49:09):
power play goals in that game, although one was called
back and they ended up scoring on the power play
and that power play anyway, you know, and they did
you know, admittedly, like I I track some of that
stuff on my own dury in the game, and they
did generate a lot more what I would say was
any chances on the power play in their last you know,
five or six games so I think we've seen a

(49:31):
bit of you know, a bit of a positive there
in terms of in terms of that, and John Dene
seems to be I don't want to see less word
because that's not necessarily fair to fair to say, but he,
you know, he he's more pleased with the power play
of late because of the number of chances they're generating.
Where there were times before where it was a struggle

(49:55):
just then getting kind of set up to generate a
chance in the offensive zone on the power play, where
you know, now they're getting set up and they're generating
those chances. So you know, I think, you know, there
there may be still be a little bit of tweaking
that needs to be done, you know, the the moves
they made and the adjustments they've made to this point.

(50:16):
You know, in the last like I said, five or
six games may lead to something here where once this
team kind of gets settled into that and gets that
figured that figured right out, we're gonna see that that
power play percentage improved, because, let's face it, I mean,
that's something that you know, going into the second half
and going into the playoffs, that's that's something you really
want rolling. I mean, how many coaches will say after

(50:37):
a game that special teams won them or lost them
a game, and you certainly don't want that happening in
the uh, you know, in the stretch run into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
So quickly before we I move on to some non
current players, is there anybody, Brad that you want to
mention that you think, you know, going forward here or
as of late, that is a guy that fan should
watch out for, that the you know has been taking
stride for Sue.

Speaker 7 (51:00):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I I I've been
a I've been a big, bigger fan of Christopher Brown
this year. You know, he's a guy that you know,
he was a former first round pick, obviously a lot
of high expectations on him, and you know he he
struggled last year. He struggled just to stay healthy and
and in the lineup regularly. You know, he's a kid

(51:21):
that you know, He's been on the line with Jordan
Seawan a lot this year, and those two guys have
really kind of you know, found, you know, founded interest
in chemistry, you know, because there are two you know,
very very different players in terms of their style, you know,
but Christopher's uh, you know, Christopher's kind of you know,
found his way a little bit here as an O six,
and you know, has played real well. And you know

(51:43):
I touched on Yaka Winklehoff for earlier. He's a guy
that you know, came in as an import pick and
has been uh, you know, has been really good, really
consistent for them, you know, on the blue line, has
been a really good fit for uh, you know, for
Chase Reid as well. And uh, you know, like I
said earlier, the other guys is crosskery. When he gets back, Uh,
you know, I'm gonna be interested to see how he

(52:05):
fits in because he looked uh, you know, he looked
really good during during training camp and in the preseason,
and you know, definitely interested to see how, you know,
how he's gonna fit in. It's gonna make that blue
line interesting as well, because you know, that's a team
that's got, you know, got a lot of defenseman on
the roster right now, so they're gonna, you know, it's
probably gonna force them to maybe have to make a
move at some point, but uh, you know, it's a

(52:26):
good problem to have. You've got enough uh you know,
higher end guys or you know, guys that can play
at this level at uh, you know, a hot you know,
a relatively high level. It's gonna gonna make the decisions hard,
but you know, put them in a potentially good spot
going forward.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
And then lastly, I know the Sue Greyhounds have a
lot of great history, and we know the Jeff Carter
Jersey retirements coming up as well. That's gonna be a
really cool night there. And Sue in November twenty second
having his number seven race to the rafters. Joe Thornton,
as anybody Sue fan watching can probably see in my backdrop,
Joe Thornton's my guy, and I've got I've actually got

(53:02):
a Joe Thornton Sue Greyhound's card with a piece of
his awesome so I really love that. But I know
that he just recently got into the Hockey Hall of
Fame as well, So you know, those are two two
great Sue Greyhounds and Jeff Carter and Joe Thornton.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I don't know if he had any any quick thoughts
on uh, you know those guys over the years.

Speaker 7 (53:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. The fun thing is
like for for me, Joe Thornton was Joe Thornton was
a guy I remember, like you know, I'm born and
raised in the Soon. You know, I was. I was
a season ticket holder with my dad for years, so
I got to you know, I got to watch Joe
Thornton when he was you know, when he was dummying
teams around the league. Uh, you know is uh you knows,
a draft eligible guy. And you know, interesting for me,

(53:43):
Jeff Carter was, you know, on one of the early
teams that when I first started getting into this business
where I was, you know, I was freelancing versuit today
and you know, covering the team a little bit. Jeff
Carter was, you know, kind of one of the on
some of those first teams that I really started covering.
And you know, so for for me, that's kind of

(54:04):
I don't know, it's showing my like, even though I'm
only in my forties showing I feel like it's showing
my age a little bit that uh, you know a
guy that a guy that I covered when I started
is getting his jersey raised to the raise of the rafters.
But you know remember him as uh, you know, so
much fun to watch and obviously you know his NHL
career is you know, it was pretty wild as well,

(54:27):
and you know, but I you know, I remember him playing,
you know, playing in junior and he was just, uh,
you know, an absolute blast to watch live and again,
you know, similar to Juell Thorton in some sense, is
just you know, big body, you know, guy that was
really skilled at the junior level and uh, you know
translated into uh, you know, a really long and productive
pro career. And that's that night. It's gonna be a

(54:49):
lot of fun and you know great that you know
with London in town. That's uh, you know, that's been
a bit of a rivalry over the years with the
Greyhounds as well, so you know that's gonna be a
that's gonna be a fun night overall, and definitely definitely
looking forward to that one.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I would assume that one's going to be a sellout.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
Yeah I would. I would hope. So if not, I'd
be uh, I hate to say this, but if not,
I'd be pretty disappointed in the fans here to be
totally honest.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
But there's Brad coach Amilio from the sports reporter for
the Sue Today giving us some great insight on the
Sue Greyhounds and look forward to having him back on
later in the season, we'll see where the Sue Greyhounds
sort of shakeout. But Brad, really appreciate your time and
thanks for all the great work you do and and
being able to come on and you know, give us
a lot of insight on what's going up there in

(55:32):
the Sue and appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (55:34):
Man, Thanks for thanks for having me on. Appreciate you
doing this and look forward to jumping on again down
the road.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Absolutely, So that's going to wrap it up for this correspondent.
Check in on the arm Chair GM Sports Network AHL Overtime.
Thank you to JC Coots for the Owen sound Attack
insight and as well here on part two and Brad
coach Emilio covering the Sue Greyhound Snaky. Those that tuned
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(55:59):
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Speaker 4 (56:00):
Buddo.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
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