November 12, 2025 • 44 mins
For too long, Ansel Brown has been defined by headlines, but what lies beyond the sensationalism? This isn’t just an interview; it’s an unfiltered journey into the mind of a man often misunderstood. We’re pulling back the curtain to reveal his true self, offering perspectives and truths that the mainstream media couldn’t capture!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey y'all, this is recording artist Ansel Brown and you're
listening to a grand slam of music, sports and entertainment.
It's the award nominated Backstage Pass Podcast with Brandon Morell
on KYBN ninety eight point one, your Bay Area Broadcasting Network.
Stream the show anytime at the Sports Guys podcast dot
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(00:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome inside the Backstage Pass.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Always a busy day full of shows and coming up
there the Thanksgiving Holidays in a few weeks. Here Brandon
Morell here KYBN ninety eight point one, your Bay Area
Broadcasting Network and our France THWN dot org, at the
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can always check out the Backstage Pass there too as well.
(00:49):
Tell you what, he's got a brand new record out there,
and he fit the Backstage Pass to a t when
he came down to it. And of course the new
album called The Rise across all the digit little streaming
platforms came out October seventeenth. Ansel Brown joined us here
on the show. Ansel, he you doing, brother.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Man, it is great to be here as It's just
I'm excited, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, man, And now I appreciate you having me on.
And anytime I can get somebody to listen to my music,
I'm excited no matter what. So and apparently you've been listening,
so that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just a few clicks here and there, I'll say that, Hey,
let's start with this. Let's get to know you a
little bit as an artist. You mentioned about radiating there
in North Carolina too, but doing some recording in Nashville.
Tell us about just growing up in the process of
the connection to music from an early age and just
really when that music bug hit, you're like, man, I
don't see myself doing anything else.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Tell that story. Man. It was a long story though.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I started in Hawaii and my mom and dad talked
me into auditioning for the Hawaiian Children's choir with my sister,
and so we ended up both making the choir and
we were on TV in Hawaii as kids like every weekend,
and uh, you know, we were on the island of
Maui one time filming a music video. So I got
introduced to professional music really early, and then I quit
(02:12):
it until I was an adult. I moved back home,
and I got into sports, and and really just nobody
knew I I was I like singing, other than maybe
my parents and and so I, you know, I kind
of left it alone for a while and did the
football thing and the baseball and basketball thing. And then
(02:33):
I got married and and I sang at my wedding,
and that was the first time I had the whole
It was like a funeral, not joking. I had the
whole congregation for our wedding just bawling in my and
and she's my ex wife now that it's another country
stam song right there. She she didn't know I was
going to do it, and I surprised everybody, including her.
(02:56):
You know how hard it is to surprise the bride
that you're gonna sing during her way.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But I did it, and so I sang, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Right after, right after we got started, and everybody cried.
It was just I knew I had a gift of
connecting at that moment. So I got more serious about
singing from that point on, and then later on I
ended up you know, meeting or raising money for another artist,
and that introduced me to some folks in Nashville. Before
(03:29):
you know it, I was like sending the producer a
tape that he didn't know who was on the tape.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I just said, Hey, can you listen to this guy?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So I sent it to him, send it to Cliff
Downs And Cliff called me back that day and he's like,
I still remember it because it was pouring rain and
he and he called me and he said, Ansel, who
is this guy? Who is I believe every word that
he's saying. I can understand him too. On top of that,
who is this guy? He's very commercial? And I took
a deep breath and I said, Cliff, it's me. And
(04:01):
it just got silent because again I surprised somebody that
didn't know I was a singer. And so the rest
is history, as they say, Before you know it, I
was in Nashville and Franklin, Tennessee, recording you know, my
first album.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I'm not joking.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Within two months of that time period, I was I
was on radio on major market radio and Charlotte with
a song called a House Like That, and people just
it kind of leaked and then people started talking about it.
In the Charlotte market and before you know, they were
spinning It wasn't in rotation, but they were spinning it.
(04:38):
And that kind of started a whole snow you know,
snowball rolling effect where you know, the news started picking
up on it. The children's hospitals knew I'd already been
working with kids in the hospitals, and before you know it,
I was doing major work for Children's Miracle Network as
I was finishing that first album. And then right after that,
(05:01):
I started, you know, I was Artist of the Month
for the CMA my first month really out with music,
and then I got Who Knew to Watch and debut
Spotlight with the CMA, and then I was Discovery Award
Robert k Orman named me the Discovery Award winner for
Music Row at that same time, and it was just
(05:23):
it was crazy. I mean, I can't tell you how
incredibly wild the ride was. I teamed up with a
famous football player named Sean Gilbert and we kind of
took over Nashville and and a lot of stuff happened. Man,
it was it was definitely surreal. And then I left
(05:44):
it all In twenty fourteen, I decided, you know, I
went through something really tough and got divorced and it
really was a traumatic time for me, and I just decided,
you know, and she was involve to my music and everything,
so I just kind of got I kind of got
to the point where I was like, you know, I'm
(06:04):
not I'm gonna take a step back in my life,
and so I did, and I didn't get back into
it until twenty twenty. And I started recording again in
twenty twenty because during that time period, I had developed
early onset aphib which, if you don't know about it,
it's an electrical disorder of your heart, so it gets
(06:25):
weird signals and so every time I started to think
about coming back, I would get more and more aphib
and I literally I was like hamstrung. I couldn't do anything.
So I finally had a procedure in twenty twenty and
it stopped it. And that's where the gate, the floodgates
opened and I started writing recording again, and before you
(06:46):
know it, I was back in Nashville in twenty twenty
four and working with Cliff again, Cliff Downs, and we
found some amazing songs together that I did not write.
There's four songs that I did not write that are
going to be all releases for me, like as singles,
and thereby some great great songwriters like Liz Hangber, like
(07:09):
Matt Flynn, Ian Flanagan, really good well known writers, and
you know, I feel blessed that I'm you know, I
was given the right to to record their songs and
and and you know, thankful from the bottom of my heart.
But that kind of just it just all came back
all at once, and it felt better, like it actually
(07:30):
felt like it was the right time to do this.
And and you know how when you kind of go
through something and you you feel like you're you're not
having to press too hard against the door to get
it to open, and you kind of feel that you're
doing the right things. That's that's kind of how this
process has felt from day one on the comeback. And
(07:54):
I've had some amazing people work with me, like Brent
Bauers and Harrison Foreman and Cliff Downs and many other
people just just really getting behind me on my decision
to come back. And I think we put together a
pretty pretty dang good album and it'll be you know,
this first EP, and then it'll be followed up by
(08:14):
another EP sometime in the early part of twenty twenty
six called Falling into Place, and that'll all compile together
to become Gravity, which is really the album that I'm
you know, trying to get put together.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Here we got to play a little music here on
the backstage pass again, the Sports Guys Podcast dot Com.
Ansel Brown here on the show the Whiskey make sir
miss me. I'll tell you what I say that every
time we leave a bar. Pretty much there too as well.
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Speaker 4 (09:08):
Steal Them makes.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
You want to go dance and tell the music ins
Downtown with her through friends on nine. The Red One
takes away all the troubles with a tough ful of bubles.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And can to lie.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But I know what she's drinking ant cause I miss you,
makes her miss me. I can't help her, let her in,
let her break my heart again in my moone, and
she'll be going and I'll be lying there.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Lying to myself till she.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Just escape, makes her miss me.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
June in the morning, the mood and her head against
my chest, firebone on her bris again.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
It used to be we used to call it love.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Now it's not a truck.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I don't know when to say when, but both of
us know I.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Was going to end.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Because a whiskey.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Makes him miss me.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
I can't help but let her in, let her break
my heart again in the morn, and she'll be gone,
and I'll be lying there, lying.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
To myself till it it's meed just.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So whiskey makes him mess me.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Hid.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I can't quit.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I guess the balls of vesopity.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
Cuz whiskey makes her miss me. I can't help a
letter in. Let her break my heart again in the Lindy.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
She'll be down, and I'll.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Be lying there, lying to myself, thinking.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Maybe she was feeling what I felt, telling it's me.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
It's just a whisky makes her miss me, makes her
mess me, makes him miss me.
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Welcome to another edition of Backstage Pass powered by the
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Speaker 3 (15:06):
And back here Ansel Brown on the Backstage Past the
album the rise across all those DSPs. The whiskey makes
her miss me? Well, I tell you what, if it's
whiskey involved, I'm right there with people too, because that
is my drink of choice there too, And of course
you can visit him at Ansel Brown dot com. Back
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(15:27):
Sports guysopodcast dot com, also top search on iHeartRadio podcast.
So when you talk about leading off a record, and
you were talking about that story before we actually played
the cut, this one had to be at the top
of your list, and I'm curious to see is this
one that you wrote?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Because if you did, man, you hit the nail on
the head.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
That's uh, Liz Hanger Rye Crop just label and Ian Flanagan.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I noticed of being flanting good music too out there
to one of the best writers in Nashville when you
got pitched this one too. Looking back at it, I mean,
the perfect fit to really set the tone for the record,
didn't it?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, Because I I totally relate to the guy in
this song, so you know, and I usually won't record
a song unless I feel something with the song. You know,
I can't just hear a good song. I got to
feel it, and this one I felt like from the
moment I started recording it, Cliff and I were both like,
this is your lead off single, and just felt right,
(16:21):
felt connected, felt you know, like I kind of lived
the story because you know, he's got a problem with
this girl obviously, and every time she comes back into
his life, he's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But it's just the whiskey it does.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It does no doubt looking back, ninety's country seems to
be something you were raised on too, And like I said,
I could be wrong, but I will say this one thing.
It's often the best era ever out there, late eighties,
early nice and even late nineties, in that early two thousands,
for me, the best era of country music ever. I
think there were other different decades we could talk about,
but I guess what I grew up on. And I've
(16:57):
often used the phrase often imitated, duplicated, but I will
say some artists are trying to bring it back for you.
Was it heavy on nineties country influence?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes, absolutely, yep, and uh when I when I the
reason one of the reasons I got into country, not
not that I just helped somebody kind of raise money
in country music, but because I grew up you know,
I listened to Garth Brooks and I don't know, something
about his story just really connected me to him. And
(17:25):
of course he's the epitome or one of the epitomes
of country music from the nineties, and so it's just
in it's it's in me, you know, I can't get
it out of me. And instead of trying to act
like I'm something that I'm not, I felt like I'd
lean into it and and really try to push hard
to get people, you know, realizing it is is the
(17:46):
It's the best decade of music of country music that
there really was in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Well, just so many great artists there too, and of
course where I'm from down here in Beaumont, Texas, which
is near Houston, down here too, and you had the
Beaumont Boys come through here with Tracey Bird, mar Chesta
and George Jones. From down here, klay Walker, I mean
the Janis Joplin country even though she wasn't really country,
I mean just the world part of it down here
too from her location. But music, the epitome of it
you mentioned there too, I mean three Beaumont Boys. You
(18:13):
put George Jones kind of right in there too as well.
So for me, like when I was young, I used
to walk into like those little diners to eat at
my parents would take me to and back in the day,
I say, back in the day show in my age.
Now you'd put a quarter in a Jude box, you
hit B five and you just play your favorite selection
while you eat the food they bring out on the
on the plate. You know, for you too. So I think,
like you said, best decade ever. And I know it's
one of those hot topics out there. Let me get
(18:35):
your opinion on another hot topic. As I flipped the
coin here, I know, AI's become everything. Now we've seen
it in music things like that. I don't bring it
up a lot here on the show, but you're just
one of those guys, very bright, very smart, and something
like this. I feel like I could bring this up
with because I guess there's pros and cons to, like
everything else out there, the way people present it towards someone,
(18:56):
the whether it you know, can it make a song
for you? Will it make a song for you? It's
here to stay whether we like it or not. I
think there's pros and cons too. What's your take on it?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's definitely it's it's like, you know, using it for coding,
you know, or design or you know, idea generation or
you know whatever, making your notes for your next speech.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's it's here. I just you know, to me, it's
it is. It is.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's missing the soul. I really do feel that when
I listen to country music. I'm not saying that I
couldn't be fooled.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I might be able to. I have not been fooled.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yet by a AI driven or AI created song. But
I think it's a great I think it's a great
tool to utilize in terms of, you know, if you're
if you want to brainstorm something or if you want
to think through something, or maybe if you're a writer
and you don't play an instrument and you need some help,
you know, trying to like, you know, figure out what
kind of melody you could go with. But I you know,
(19:53):
it's it's it's one of those things where it's here,
it's it is, it's here, it's I just I just
feel like it's gonna miss. I think people just aren't
going to connect to the You still need that person
behind the song. To me, you still need that like
this person lived my life. And if you think if
an Ai wrote the song, and you're like, this person
(20:15):
lived my life, and then you think to yourself, you're like, well, no,
actually this person didn't live my life. And I think
that's the coolest thing about country music is that it
is as stories. It's a tapestry of life. Experience is funny, sad,
you know, smart, intelligent, dumb, whatever it is. You know,
we're you know, most of the drinking songs, right, they
(20:36):
fall into the dumb category. So I mean, you know,
because it makes us dumb. And I think that, you know,
it's one of those things that AI is just not
going to have that for us.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know the story.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Now they can make some something up and make people
believe or try to make people believe that this is
a person singing it. But I just I don't know,
like it's controversial to just think about, you know, sometimes
I get like the the ebgb's just thinking about, like,
how would I use AI for music? I'll be honest.
I use it for note taking. I use it for
(21:11):
you know, reviewing. You know, if I'm writing something for
you know, a speech, I'll I'll use it like no joke.
I'll sit there and go, hey, how can I say
this better? Or if I have an email that I'm
writing and I'm really not sure how I should say it,
but I write the email and then I say, hey,
can you just make this sound a little softer? I
(21:31):
have done that, But you know, in terms of music,
I'm not. I don't know how to make music with it.
I know that they're that they're making some pretty good
music with it, but I haven't been fooled yet on
anything that I've heard.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I can tell you where I thought it was beneficial
for an artist, and that was a lot of people
may agree to disagree with this or whatever it is
against my own personal take out there radio host, I
can bring it up here too and just give opinions.
Is that's what it's all about. If you don't like it,
then hey, it is what it is. But I will
say exceptions can be made. And where that were to
occur was, again something that's pretty much out of our
(22:06):
hands or anybody's hands out there, was how it kind
of helped bring back or remake the voice of Randy
Travis and bring back some of those original cuts off
the record he put out. And obviously with health issues
things like that. There are some exceptions, and I see
more pros to it in a situation like that where
you're not still forgetting the original artist, but for someone
now who unfortunately cannot, you know, bring back those dulcet
(22:29):
tones that he had back in the day. Looking at
something like that, to help a gentleman who means meant
so much to country music and still does out there,
that's an exception I could see with AI too, To
help a guy bring back who can't help himself unfortunately,
to to resurrect his career in his voice, right.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, another North Carolina guy and you know he yeah,
I totally so. Talking about legacy and keeping the legacy
of some famous voice. I do see the benefit in
that because it is keeping his voice alive for all
of us to enjoy. And so I'm kind of with
(23:06):
you on that, Like if the family is good with
it and the artist, you know, if the artist in
particular knows before that, before they're gone, that hey, you know,
I'm I'm going to let them use my voice to
keep it, to keep it going. I think it's amazing.
Or if a family member of somebody that's gone is like, no,
I really want I want my dad or my brother
(23:27):
or my mother or whoever I want to keep you know,
I want to keep her voice alive, and I want
it to show up a new new music. I'm good
with I think I'm good with that because nobody knows.
I mean, everybody knows that it's not that person at
that point, right, It's not a it's not being hidden
or you're not being deceived. It's more about, you know,
(23:48):
how can we keep how can we respect that voice,
that famous voice, and make it something that people are
going to cherish because it's just rekindling all of the
love and emotion from that famous art.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So I'm kind of good with that.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Exceptions can be made there too, and that is one
that you mentioned there too, if the families are okay
with it too, and a lot of things that go
into at the same time. I think that's one of
the things you can definitely resurrect. Some exceptions can be made,
and that is one of those exceptions out there. Well,
I tell you what for, I talk about this next
cutoff here too. We got to play it here on
the backstage Pass. And I love the title of this too,
because we're gonna actually for you guys on the website.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You'll get to see the music video.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Out there and have fun with it in your car,
crank it up out there too, And I love the title,
We Make America Run. It's Ansel Brown the Backstage Pass again,
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Stay tuned, more to come with Ansel Brown, Stay tuned,
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And we made America run.
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Yeah, We're the hard hats running them dozers.
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We make a never row we'reding everything out of Mactra.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
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Speaker 4 (27:09):
Working for the man and working for a dollar.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
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Speaker 4 (27:17):
Out of mad Red, hotside lass see to swing and a.
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Speaker 6 (27:32):
No, there ain't no doubt A bady we ones that
we made americal.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
BA, we made America. We made Commerico.
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Speaker 13 (31:16):
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Speaker 2 (31:29):
Head back here.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Ansel Brown on the Backstage Pass again Ansel Brown dot
Comics you guys check it out out there, and of
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and th WN dot org. So when you got this
cut again, you mentioned you were going to record something
(31:52):
that you don't have the personal interest in, and this
was one to where you can put all the blue
collar workers behind and we as in the public. You're
right about that, no doubt, considering the circumstances right now.
And I don't get too heavy into politics here on
the show, but you're right. The blue collar workers are
first responders. Everybody out there, we make America run. What
a great title for a song, and you should be
(32:13):
proud of this one. Yeah, another one that I really
connected with, and I just what can I say? It's
I come from a blue collar family.
Speaker 16 (32:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
My dad was like my granddad was like the head
pressman in the Greenville News in Greenville, South Carolina for
like forty years. My dad was in the navy, you know,
and and I myself have had blue collar jobs as well.
And when I heard it, I was like, you know,
this is Yeah, even though I call it a blue
collar anthem, it's not. I mean, it's a real country song.
(32:45):
It's a good country song, but it is. This is
a blue collar anthem. And if you if you're any
of those people, whether you're a nurse, a firefighter, a teacher,
you know, a veteran, or somebody that were you know,
a soldier, you know this this song is about you,
and it's about how you guys make this country run.
(33:05):
It's why we are what we are. And uh just
I can't say better than that. I don't think it's
it is it's it's a blue collar anthem, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I'll just let's get into a little bit of this
one too. I loved it and listening to the record too.
Another one just caught my attention. Anything with a cow
bell is definitely one of those things to say more
cow bell. We can always talk about that when it
comes to bands or just anything in life. How did
you come across this one.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So so Skip Black, who's h used to be in
my band and he moved to Nashville became a pretty
good writer. He's had a couple number one hits in
Canada recently in the Canadian country music scene, and he
I used to perform this. I performed this in Detroit
City at the Hoe down at the downtown Hodown back
(33:53):
in the day. And so since that time, I've wanted
to record it, and you know, I got back into
the music, you know, and I was like, Skip Man,
you know, think Curb Curb will let me record the song,
and they were like, yeah, heck, Gil, We'll let you
record it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
So that one in Gravity Hill are both Skip Black songs.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
GRAVI I was gonna build on that too. You mentioned
about Gravity Hill. Talk about this one too, just the backstory.
You have another one of those songs that was was
out there too that I know you connected with you
at the same time and it just your delivery in
it to the lyrics, everything you brought to life.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
And you really brought that song to life for me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, that's a car that's a Carolina song. That's that's
a real place. Uh, it's it's near near here. It's
not far from here. It's like near Salisbury, North Carolina,
and it's a it's a real hill where people. So
when I when I knew that it was, you know,
I knew this, knew of the song. I had never
sang it in concert, but I knew of the song.
(34:52):
And so when I was doing this, I was like, Okay,
what songs would I use from my write from the
writers that I work with? And this was another one
of those songs as I was like, man, this has
got to be on my album, and you know, it's
it's another one of those songs that just hits me
in a way that it needs to hit me for
me to want to do a song that I didn't write,
(35:14):
And that's one of those songs.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's a powerful song.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
May might be a little too long for radio in
the current format, but it's uh, it's it could be shortened,
you know. If it starts to get like some action,
we'll see what we can.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Do with it. But it's a is A is a
great song.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The girl power movement now country music too, you start
to see a little bit more respect. I'll use that
word too for the ladies out there from mentioned nineties country,
but now as as strong as it's ever been, from
not just the Queen Bee Landy Wilson, but all the
ladies that are coming behind her right now, between Priscilla
Block to Ella Langley to Megan Maroney. Give me some
your take on a little bit of this women's empowerment
(35:55):
movement now and how special this is, well.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You know, for the longest time, I mean it's always been.
It feels like it's always been harder for women in
country music, no matter when you know when it was.
And you know, I think a lot of female listeners
on radio like tend to like guy country singers, and
I think I think that's starting to change.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think, you know, guys are listening to female songs
and females are listening to female songs, and I think
it's a good time for them to finally get a
step up.
Speaker 15 (36:29):
I have.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I have nothing but respect for you know, especially like
Landy Wilson, and you know, talk about nineties style, right,
I mean, she's she's doing it right in my in
my opinion, and I you know, I'm there, I'm there
for them. I think it's wonderful time for them.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I know, you mentioned that sports background too, so have
to go here a little bit with the music, sports entertainment,
the whole nine yards. For me, my football team sucks.
I'm just going to go and say it now. This
year the Arizona Cardinals not very good too. And I
think we're about to do a quarterback chain in the offseason,
at least some type of trade. I know, being from
Carolina is there too. And Charlotte. There's this team called
the Carolina Panthers that is surprising people this year so
(37:10):
far through first ten eleven weeks of this NFL season. Cowboys,
they suck to And that's just want to go and
say Dallas America's team, which is my wife's team. But
at the same time, you know, you just watch two
teams go ahead to head on Monday Night football and
you see one has to win out there too, which
is good for that particular franchise. But looking back, is
it the Titans for you? Is it college teams? You
(37:30):
follow a baseball, football, basketball? Who do you still kind
of follow out there?
Speaker 15 (37:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Now, I'm a I'm Gamecock fan through and through, you know,
and Carolina Panthers and been a Carolina I used to
be a Washington Redskins fan because I grew up in
a Navy family and we lived a lot of our
childhood was in d C, in the DC area, So
I grew up a Redskins fan, you know, Joe Gibbs fan,
(37:55):
and and then when the Panthers were born, I was
right here for it, and I I have not stopped
being I started being a fan and I have not stopped,
even though I feel like stopping sometimes lately. But the Panthers, Yeah,
the Panthers have been my team, and I've done a
lot of work with the Panthers. From a music perspective,
I've got a song that you can listen to on
Spotify call we call it football.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
The Panthers, you know, heard that song and sent me
to Nashville to record it. And I wrote that song
for Saturday Football, you know, for the for the you know,
the kids, and they used it in their youth football
outreach and uh, you know, I've done a lot of
work with the Panthers, sur per to children's hospital, touring
(38:37):
to you know, just events in general for youth football.
And I love love the the guys on the community
relations side with them. The community team is amazing. Led
by Riley Fields, so very very close to them. I
like the Hornets. Again, I'm unfortunately, you know, we don't
(38:57):
get to win very much, but I love the Hornets.
And yeah, so I'm kind of a Carolina guy when
it comes to sports.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's good stuff right there.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
You've got to be a Carolina guy, born and bred
and just enjoy your hometown teams right there too. All right,
went in Nashville or just I guess anywhere in general.
I always say in Nashville because I think about that
and we go back there for all the great food there.
It feels like a test market for some of these restaurants. Now,
the hot chicken debate would settled for me a few
years ago with Hattie Bees. Now for you hot food,
spicy foods. Where do you like to go eat when
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you're in town there?
Speaker 20 (39:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Man, there are so many places that are a hole
in the walled places to eat and I can't I'm
not going to remember the name of the breakfast place.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But it's kind of out.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I want to say, it's out forty a little ways
and it's got this old I want to say it
was a white building, but it's like a farm. It's
almost like a farm. And the breakfast that they had
there was one of the best breakfasts I've ever had.
But in terms of spicy foods, man, I love I
love Mexican food anywhere. So if I find a good
(40:04):
burrito or a good taco or a good case adilla,
I'm there pretty much wherever that might be.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I love it. All right.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Give me a stage you have not stepped on. It's
still one of those ultimate goals out there. And if
it is the Grand Old Opry, I know we're going
to see Ansel Brown on the Grand Ole Opry, but very.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Soon in the stage that is the stage. I've been there.
I just haven't been on the stage center Circle. Ansel
Brown has a good ring to it, it does, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
If you were never a working musician, uh, and you
mentioned you did a lot of odd jobs out there too,
in blue collar jobs. What other career path would you
have stayed on or would you have taken?
Speaker 8 (40:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Man, if if I could have stayed on the invention game,
I would have I would have kept being an inventor.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I invented a cat litter box when I right after
I got out of school, and I raised a bunch
money for it, and I was on QVC. I sold
it on QVC myself. I used to have these these
little ladies that would little old ladies that would call
in during the show and they would be amazed that
I could sift BB's out of out of clumping litter
(41:15):
and do it right on the show. I had the
best sifting cat litter box that has ever been or
ever will be. It's not out there anymore because I
went through a big learning curve when I did. I
was fresh out of school, but I did.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I got it on QVC all by my lonesome, and
I could have kept on inventing, but instead I got
kind of dragged into just being an entrepreneur, which is
kind of cool too, But invention was the That was
the most fun thing I've done in business ever.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Is inventing. I love that too.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
We've never had an inventor here in my seven years
of doing this show, so I think the first one
that always would love to find out those backstories of
hobbies besides music, So an inventor I would not have imagined.
But congratulations on that to it. Not everybody can get
themselves on QBC. So you've done that to check that
box exactly. Yeah, which is good there, love it too.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
That was like being on a TV show because the
way they do it, the way they do it, it's
this big studio with different rooms, different settings in a
house and it's all just studio, but it's like you're
on there and you feel like you're on a TV
show and it's very high pressure. It's way more high
pressure than you know, because people are like, how many
sales can we get in a minute? How many sales
(42:32):
can we get in a minute, And so that was
a really good learning experience in terms of dealing with pressure.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And you're right, I used to watch that too sometimes.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
So the sports items would come across there for sale,
autograph membabilia, and it was about the numbers and how
many clicks could happen to So a lot of pressure
when you're in a situation.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh yeah as well.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
And I can't wait to come out to see you
at a live show there we get to town and
of course I know Country Radio Seminar coming up March
eighteenth to twentieth there for my seventh or eighth one.
I've lost count there, but hopefully we'll be there doing
it again. Hey, appreciate the time here on the show.
Hope you had a great time and looking forward to
more great things happening in your career, and we appreciate
the time and hey continue success going forward.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
To thank you so much for having me. I can't
wait to get back on. Hopefully we'll have some good
news down the road and you'll want to have me
back on. So excited to be here, man.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I know there's more good things coming for a guy
like Ansel Brown. The new album is called The Rise.
Across all the DSPs out there and check it out
across that and make sure you go to Ansel Brown
dot com for all the fun stuff, the tour dates,
the merchandise and all the good stuff out there on
that very website.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Would love to have you back.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
And if you guys end up two step into the
record DM or email me and tell me how good
it is, because our job is to educate you on
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(44:01):
We'll be back with more great guests coming up over
the next few weeks, leading up to the Thanksgiving break
and of course the Christmas holidays.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
We'll talk to you guys soon. Take care, God bless
we'll see you soon.
Speaker 10 (44:11):
Hey, folks, this is Australian country star Andrew Swift and
you're listening to the award nominated Backstage Pass on KYBN
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iHeartRadio podcasts and at THWN dot org.
Hey y'all, this is recording artist Ansel Brown and you're
listening to a grand slam of music, sports and entertainment.
It's the award nominated Backstage Pass Podcast with Brandon Morell
on KYBN ninety eight point one, your Bay Area Broadcasting Network.
Stream the show anytime at the Sports Guys podcast dot
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THWN dot org.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome inside the Backstage Pass.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Always a busy day full of shows and coming up
there the Thanksgiving Holidays in a few weeks. Here Brandon
Morell here KYBN ninety eight point one, your Bay Area
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Tell you what, he's got a brand new record out there,
and he fit the Backstage Pass to a t when
he came down to it. And of course the new
album called The Rise across all the digit little streaming
platforms came out October seventeenth. Ansel Brown joined us here
on the show. Ansel, he you doing, brother.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Man, it is great to be here as It's just
I'm excited, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, man, And now I appreciate you having me on.
And anytime I can get somebody to listen to my music,
I'm excited no matter what. So and apparently you've been listening,
so that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just a few clicks here and there, I'll say that, Hey,
let's start with this. Let's get to know you a
little bit as an artist. You mentioned about radiating there
in North Carolina too, but doing some recording in Nashville.
Tell us about just growing up in the process of
the connection to music from an early age and just
really when that music bug hit, you're like, man, I
don't see myself doing anything else.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Tell that story. Man. It was a long story though.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I started in Hawaii and my mom and dad talked
me into auditioning for the Hawaiian Children's choir with my sister,
and so we ended up both making the choir and
we were on TV in Hawaii as kids like every weekend,
and uh, you know, we were on the island of
Maui one time filming a music video. So I got
introduced to professional music really early, and then I quit
(02:12):
it until I was an adult. I moved back home,
and I got into sports, and and really just nobody
knew I I was I like singing, other than maybe
my parents and and so I, you know, I kind
of left it alone for a while and did the
football thing and the baseball and basketball thing. And then
(02:33):
I got married and and I sang at my wedding,
and that was the first time I had the whole
It was like a funeral, not joking. I had the
whole congregation for our wedding just bawling in my and
and she's my ex wife now that it's another country
stam song right there. She she didn't know I was
going to do it, and I surprised everybody, including her.
(02:56):
You know how hard it is to surprise the bride
that you're gonna sing during her way.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But I did it, and so I sang, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Right after, right after we got started, and everybody cried.
It was just I knew I had a gift of
connecting at that moment. So I got more serious about
singing from that point on, and then later on I
ended up you know, meeting or raising money for another artist,
and that introduced me to some folks in Nashville. Before
(03:29):
you know it, I was like sending the producer a
tape that he didn't know who was on the tape.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I just said, Hey, can you listen to this guy?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So I sent it to him, send it to Cliff
Downs And Cliff called me back that day and he's like,
I still remember it because it was pouring rain and
he and he called me and he said, Ansel, who
is this guy? Who is I believe every word that
he's saying. I can understand him too. On top of that,
who is this guy? He's very commercial? And I took
a deep breath and I said, Cliff, it's me. And
(04:01):
it just got silent because again I surprised somebody that
didn't know I was a singer. And so the rest
is history, as they say, Before you know it, I
was in Nashville and Franklin, Tennessee, recording you know, my
first album.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I'm not joking.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Within two months of that time period, I was I
was on radio on major market radio and Charlotte with
a song called a House Like That, and people just
it kind of leaked and then people started talking about it.
In the Charlotte market and before you know, they were
spinning It wasn't in rotation, but they were spinning it.
(04:38):
And that kind of started a whole snow you know,
snowball rolling effect where you know, the news started picking
up on it. The children's hospitals knew I'd already been
working with kids in the hospitals, and before you know it,
I was doing major work for Children's Miracle Network as
I was finishing that first album. And then right after that,
(05:01):
I started, you know, I was Artist of the Month
for the CMA my first month really out with music,
and then I got Who Knew to Watch and debut
Spotlight with the CMA, and then I was Discovery Award
Robert k Orman named me the Discovery Award winner for
Music Row at that same time, and it was just
(05:23):
it was crazy. I mean, I can't tell you how
incredibly wild the ride was. I teamed up with a
famous football player named Sean Gilbert and we kind of
took over Nashville and and a lot of stuff happened. Man,
it was it was definitely surreal. And then I left
(05:44):
it all In twenty fourteen, I decided, you know, I
went through something really tough and got divorced and it
really was a traumatic time for me, and I just decided,
you know, and she was involve to my music and everything,
so I just kind of got I kind of got
to the point where I was like, you know, I'm
(06:04):
not I'm gonna take a step back in my life,
and so I did, and I didn't get back into
it until twenty twenty. And I started recording again in
twenty twenty because during that time period, I had developed
early onset aphib which, if you don't know about it,
it's an electrical disorder of your heart, so it gets
(06:25):
weird signals and so every time I started to think
about coming back, I would get more and more aphib
and I literally I was like hamstrung. I couldn't do anything.
So I finally had a procedure in twenty twenty and
it stopped it. And that's where the gate, the floodgates
opened and I started writing recording again, and before you
(06:46):
know it, I was back in Nashville in twenty twenty
four and working with Cliff again, Cliff Downs, and we
found some amazing songs together that I did not write.
There's four songs that I did not write that are
going to be all releases for me, like as singles,
and thereby some great great songwriters like Liz Hangber, like
(07:09):
Matt Flynn, Ian Flanagan, really good well known writers, and
you know, I feel blessed that I'm you know, I
was given the right to to record their songs and
and and you know, thankful from the bottom of my heart.
But that kind of just it just all came back
all at once, and it felt better, like it actually
(07:30):
felt like it was the right time to do this.
And and you know how when you kind of go
through something and you you feel like you're you're not
having to press too hard against the door to get
it to open, and you kind of feel that you're
doing the right things. That's that's kind of how this
process has felt from day one on the comeback. And
(07:54):
I've had some amazing people work with me, like Brent
Bauers and Harrison Foreman and Cliff Downs and many other
people just just really getting behind me on my decision
to come back. And I think we put together a
pretty pretty dang good album and it'll be you know,
this first EP, and then it'll be followed up by
(08:14):
another EP sometime in the early part of twenty twenty
six called Falling into Place, and that'll all compile together
to become Gravity, which is really the album that I'm
you know, trying to get put together.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
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Speaker 5 (09:10):
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And back here Ansel Brown on the Backstage Past the
album the rise across all those DSPs. The whiskey makes
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So when you talk about leading off a record, and
you were talking about that story before we actually played
the cut, this one had to be at the top
of your list, and I'm curious to see is this
one that you wrote?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Because if you did, man, you hit the nail on
the head.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
That's uh, Liz Hanger Rye Crop just label and Ian Flanagan.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I noticed of being flanting good music too out there
to one of the best writers in Nashville when you
got pitched this one too. Looking back at it, I mean,
the perfect fit to really set the tone for the record,
didn't it?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, Because I I totally relate to the guy in
this song, so you know, and I usually won't record
a song unless I feel something with the song. You know,
I can't just hear a good song. I got to
feel it, and this one I felt like from the
moment I started recording it, Cliff and I were both like,
this is your lead off single, and just felt right,
(16:21):
felt connected, felt you know, like I kind of lived
the story because you know, he's got a problem with
this girl obviously, and every time she comes back into
his life, he's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But it's just the whiskey it does.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It does no doubt looking back, ninety's country seems to
be something you were raised on too, And like I said,
I could be wrong, but I will say this one thing.
It's often the best era ever out there, late eighties,
early nice and even late nineties, in that early two thousands,
for me, the best era of country music ever. I
think there were other different decades we could talk about,
but I guess what I grew up on. And I've
(16:57):
often used the phrase often imitated, duplicated, but I will
say some artists are trying to bring it back for you.
Was it heavy on nineties country influence?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes, absolutely, yep, and uh when I when I the
reason one of the reasons I got into country, not
not that I just helped somebody kind of raise money
in country music, but because I grew up you know,
I listened to Garth Brooks and I don't know, something
about his story just really connected me to him. And
(17:25):
of course he's the epitome or one of the epitomes
of country music from the nineties, and so it's just
in it's it's in me, you know, I can't get
it out of me. And instead of trying to act
like I'm something that I'm not, I felt like I'd
lean into it and and really try to push hard
to get people, you know, realizing it is is the
(17:46):
It's the best decade of music of country music that
there really was in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Well, just so many great artists there too, and of
course where I'm from down here in Beaumont, Texas, which
is near Houston, down here too, and you had the
Beaumont Boys come through here with Tracey Bird, mar Chesta
and George Jones. From down here, klay Walker, I mean
the Janis Joplin country even though she wasn't really country,
I mean just the world part of it down here
too from her location. But music, the epitome of it
you mentioned there too, I mean three Beaumont Boys. You
(18:13):
put George Jones kind of right in there too as well.
So for me, like when I was young, I used
to walk into like those little diners to eat at
my parents would take me to and back in the day,
I say, back in the day show in my age.
Now you'd put a quarter in a Jude box, you
hit B five and you just play your favorite selection
while you eat the food they bring out on the
on the plate. You know, for you too. So I think,
like you said, best decade ever. And I know it's
one of those hot topics out there. Let me get
(18:35):
your opinion on another hot topic. As I flipped the
coin here, I know, AI's become everything. Now we've seen
it in music things like that. I don't bring it
up a lot here on the show, but you're just
one of those guys, very bright, very smart, and something
like this. I feel like I could bring this up
with because I guess there's pros and cons to, like
everything else out there, the way people present it towards someone,
(18:56):
the whether it you know, can it make a song
for you? Will it make a song for you? It's
here to stay whether we like it or not. I
think there's pros and cons too. What's your take on it?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's definitely it's it's like, you know, using it for coding,
you know, or design or you know, idea generation or
you know whatever, making your notes for your next speech.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's it's here. I just you know, to me, it's
it is. It is.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's missing the soul. I really do feel that when
I listen to country music. I'm not saying that I
couldn't be fooled.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I might be able to. I have not been fooled.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yet by a AI driven or AI created song. But
I think it's a great I think it's a great
tool to utilize in terms of, you know, if you're
if you want to brainstorm something or if you want
to think through something, or maybe if you're a writer
and you don't play an instrument and you need some help,
you know, trying to like, you know, figure out what
kind of melody you could go with. But I you know,
(19:53):
it's it's it's one of those things where it's here,
it's it is, it's here, it's I just I just
feel like it's gonna miss. I think people just aren't
going to connect to the You still need that person
behind the song. To me, you still need that like
this person lived my life. And if you think if
an Ai wrote the song, and you're like, this person
(20:15):
lived my life, and then you think to yourself, you're like, well, no,
actually this person didn't live my life. And I think
that's the coolest thing about country music is that it
is as stories. It's a tapestry of life. Experience is funny, sad,
you know, smart, intelligent, dumb, whatever it is. You know,
we're you know, most of the drinking songs, right, they
(20:36):
fall into the dumb category. So I mean, you know,
because it makes us dumb. And I think that, you know,
it's one of those things that AI is just not
going to have that for us.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know the story.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Now they can make some something up and make people
believe or try to make people believe that this is
a person singing it. But I just I don't know,
like it's controversial to just think about, you know, sometimes
I get like the the ebgb's just thinking about, like,
how would I use AI for music? I'll be honest.
I use it for note taking. I use it for
(21:11):
you know, reviewing. You know, if I'm writing something for
you know, a speech, I'll I'll use it like no joke.
I'll sit there and go, hey, how can I say
this better? Or if I have an email that I'm
writing and I'm really not sure how I should say it,
but I write the email and then I say, hey,
can you just make this sound a little softer? I
(21:31):
have done that, But you know, in terms of music,
I'm not. I don't know how to make music with it.
I know that they're that they're making some pretty good
music with it, but I haven't been fooled yet on
anything that I've heard.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I can tell you where I thought it was beneficial
for an artist, and that was a lot of people
may agree to disagree with this or whatever it is
against my own personal take out there radio host, I
can bring it up here too and just give opinions.
Is that's what it's all about. If you don't like it,
then hey, it is what it is. But I will
say exceptions can be made. And where that were to
occur was, again something that's pretty much out of our
(22:06):
hands or anybody's hands out there, was how it kind
of helped bring back or remake the voice of Randy
Travis and bring back some of those original cuts off
the record he put out. And obviously with health issues
things like that. There are some exceptions, and I see
more pros to it in a situation like that where
you're not still forgetting the original artist, but for someone
now who unfortunately cannot, you know, bring back those dulcet
(22:29):
tones that he had back in the day. Looking at
something like that, to help a gentleman who means meant
so much to country music and still does out there,
that's an exception I could see with AI too, To
help a guy bring back who can't help himself unfortunately,
to to resurrect his career in his voice, right.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, another North Carolina guy and you know he yeah,
I totally so. Talking about legacy and keeping the legacy
of some famous voice. I do see the benefit in
that because it is keeping his voice alive for all
of us to enjoy. And so I'm kind of with
(23:06):
you on that, Like if the family is good with
it and the artist, you know, if the artist in
particular knows before that, before they're gone, that hey, you know,
I'm I'm going to let them use my voice to
keep it, to keep it going. I think it's amazing.
Or if a family member of somebody that's gone is like, no,
I really want I want my dad or my brother
(23:27):
or my mother or whoever I want to keep you know,
I want to keep her voice alive, and I want
it to show up a new new music. I'm good
with I think I'm good with that because nobody knows.
I mean, everybody knows that it's not that person at
that point, right, It's not a it's not being hidden
or you're not being deceived. It's more about, you know,
(23:48):
how can we keep how can we respect that voice,
that famous voice, and make it something that people are
going to cherish because it's just rekindling all of the
love and emotion from that famous art.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So I'm kind of good with that.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Exceptions can be made there too, and that is one
that you mentioned there too, if the families are okay
with it too, and a lot of things that go
into at the same time. I think that's one of
the things you can definitely resurrect. Some exceptions can be made,
and that is one of those exceptions out there. Well,
I tell you what for, I talk about this next
cutoff here too. We got to play it here on
the backstage Pass. And I love the title of this too,
because we're gonna actually for you guys on the website.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You'll get to see the music video.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Out there and have fun with it in your car,
crank it up out there too, And I love the title,
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Speaker 4 (25:43):
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We're the walls that punch outside clock every day, every day,
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Ansel Brown on the Backstage Pass again Ansel Brown dot
Comics you guys check it out out there, and of
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cut again, you mentioned you were going to record something
(31:52):
that you don't have the personal interest in, and this
was one to where you can put all the blue
collar workers behind and we as in the public. You're
right about that, no doubt, considering the circumstances right now.
And I don't get too heavy into politics here on
the show, but you're right. The blue collar workers are
first responders. Everybody out there, we make America run. What
a great title for a song, and you should be
(32:13):
proud of this one. Yeah, another one that I really
connected with, and I just what can I say? It's
I come from a blue collar family.
Speaker 16 (32:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
My dad was like my granddad was like the head
pressman in the Greenville News in Greenville, South Carolina for
like forty years. My dad was in the navy, you know,
and and I myself have had blue collar jobs as well.
And when I heard it, I was like, you know,
this is Yeah, even though I call it a blue
collar anthem, it's not. I mean, it's a real country song.
(32:45):
It's a good country song, but it is. This is
a blue collar anthem. And if you if you're any
of those people, whether you're a nurse, a firefighter, a teacher,
you know, a veteran, or somebody that were you know,
a soldier, you know this this song is about you,
and it's about how you guys make this country run.
(33:05):
It's why we are what we are. And uh just
I can't say better than that. I don't think it's
it is it's it's a blue collar anthem, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I'll just let's get into a little bit of this
one too. I loved it and listening to the record too.
Another one just caught my attention. Anything with a cow
bell is definitely one of those things to say more
cow bell. We can always talk about that when it
comes to bands or just anything in life. How did
you come across this one.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So so Skip Black, who's h used to be in
my band and he moved to Nashville became a pretty
good writer. He's had a couple number one hits in
Canada recently in the Canadian country music scene, and he
I used to perform this. I performed this in Detroit
City at the Hoe down at the downtown Hodown back
(33:53):
in the day. And so since that time, I've wanted
to record it, and you know, I got back into
the music, you know, and I was like, Skip Man,
you know, think Curb Curb will let me record the song,
and they were like, yeah, heck, Gil, We'll let you
record it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
So that one in Gravity Hill are both Skip Black songs.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
GRAVI I was gonna build on that too. You mentioned
about Gravity Hill. Talk about this one too, just the backstory.
You have another one of those songs that was was
out there too that I know you connected with you
at the same time and it just your delivery in
it to the lyrics, everything you brought to life.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
And you really brought that song to life for me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, that's a car that's a Carolina song. That's that's
a real place. Uh, it's it's near near here. It's
not far from here. It's like near Salisbury, North Carolina,
and it's a it's a real hill where people. So
when I when I knew that it was, you know,
I knew this, knew of the song. I had never
sang it in concert, but I knew of the song.
(34:52):
And so when I was doing this, I was like, Okay,
what songs would I use from my write from the
writers that I work with? And this was another one
of those songs as I was like, man, this has
got to be on my album, and you know, it's
it's another one of those songs that just hits me
in a way that it needs to hit me for
me to want to do a song that I didn't write,
(35:14):
And that's one of those songs.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's a powerful song.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
May might be a little too long for radio in
the current format, but it's uh, it's it could be shortened,
you know. If it starts to get like some action,
we'll see what we can.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Do with it. But it's a is A is a
great song.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The girl power movement now country music too, you start
to see a little bit more respect. I'll use that
word too for the ladies out there from mentioned nineties country,
but now as as strong as it's ever been, from
not just the Queen Bee Landy Wilson, but all the
ladies that are coming behind her right now, between Priscilla
Block to Ella Langley to Megan Maroney. Give me some
your take on a little bit of this women's empowerment
(35:55):
movement now and how special this is, well.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You know, for the longest time, I mean it's always been.
It feels like it's always been harder for women in
country music, no matter when you know when it was.
And you know, I think a lot of female listeners
on radio like tend to like guy country singers, and
I think I think that's starting to change.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think, you know, guys are listening to female songs
and females are listening to female songs, and I think
it's a good time for them to finally get a
step up.
Speaker 15 (36:29):
I have.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I have nothing but respect for you know, especially like
Landy Wilson, and you know, talk about nineties style, right,
I mean, she's she's doing it right in my in
my opinion, and I you know, I'm there, I'm there
for them. I think it's wonderful time for them.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I know, you mentioned that sports background too, so have
to go here a little bit with the music, sports entertainment,
the whole nine yards. For me, my football team sucks.
I'm just going to go and say it now. This
year the Arizona Cardinals not very good too. And I
think we're about to do a quarterback chain in the offseason,
at least some type of trade. I know, being from
Carolina is there too. And Charlotte. There's this team called
the Carolina Panthers that is surprising people this year so
(37:10):
far through first ten eleven weeks of this NFL season. Cowboys,
they suck to And that's just want to go and
say Dallas America's team, which is my wife's team. But
at the same time, you know, you just watch two
teams go ahead to head on Monday Night football and
you see one has to win out there too, which
is good for that particular franchise. But looking back, is
it the Titans for you? Is it college teams? You
(37:30):
follow a baseball, football, basketball? Who do you still kind
of follow out there?
Speaker 15 (37:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Now, I'm a I'm Gamecock fan through and through, you know,
and Carolina Panthers and been a Carolina I used to
be a Washington Redskins fan because I grew up in
a Navy family and we lived a lot of our
childhood was in d C, in the DC area, So
I grew up a Redskins fan, you know, Joe Gibbs fan,
(37:55):
and and then when the Panthers were born, I was
right here for it, and I I have not stopped
being I started being a fan and I have not stopped,
even though I feel like stopping sometimes lately. But the Panthers, Yeah,
the Panthers have been my team, and I've done a
lot of work with the Panthers. From a music perspective,
I've got a song that you can listen to on
Spotify call we call it football.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
The Panthers, you know, heard that song and sent me
to Nashville to record it. And I wrote that song
for Saturday Football, you know, for the for the you know,
the kids, and they used it in their youth football
outreach and uh, you know, I've done a lot of
work with the Panthers, sur per to children's hospital, touring
(38:37):
to you know, just events in general for youth football.
And I love love the the guys on the community
relations side with them. The community team is amazing. Led
by Riley Fields, so very very close to them. I
like the Hornets. Again, I'm unfortunately, you know, we don't
(38:57):
get to win very much, but I love the Hornets.
And yeah, so I'm kind of a Carolina guy when
it comes to sports.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's good stuff right there.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
You've got to be a Carolina guy, born and bred
and just enjoy your hometown teams right there too. All right,
went in Nashville or just I guess anywhere in general.
I always say in Nashville because I think about that
and we go back there for all the great food there.
It feels like a test market for some of these restaurants. Now,
the hot chicken debate would settled for me a few
years ago with Hattie Bees. Now for you hot food,
spicy foods. Where do you like to go eat when
(39:30):
you're in town there?
Speaker 20 (39:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Man, there are so many places that are a hole
in the walled places to eat and I can't I'm
not going to remember the name of the breakfast place.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But it's kind of out.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I want to say, it's out forty a little ways
and it's got this old I want to say it
was a white building, but it's like a farm. It's
almost like a farm. And the breakfast that they had
there was one of the best breakfasts I've ever had.
But in terms of spicy foods, man, I love I
love Mexican food anywhere. So if I find a good
(40:04):
burrito or a good taco or a good case adilla,
I'm there pretty much wherever that might be.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I love it. All right.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Give me a stage you have not stepped on. It's
still one of those ultimate goals out there. And if
it is the Grand Old Opry, I know we're going
to see Ansel Brown on the Grand Ole Opry, but very.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Soon in the stage that is the stage. I've been there.
I just haven't been on the stage center Circle. Ansel
Brown has a good ring to it, it does, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
If you were never a working musician, uh, and you
mentioned you did a lot of odd jobs out there too,
in blue collar jobs. What other career path would you
have stayed on or would you have taken?
Speaker 8 (40:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Man, if if I could have stayed on the invention game,
I would have I would have kept being an inventor.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I invented a cat litter box when I right after
I got out of school, and I raised a bunch
money for it, and I was on QVC. I sold
it on QVC myself. I used to have these these
little ladies that would little old ladies that would call
in during the show and they would be amazed that
I could sift BB's out of out of clumping litter
(41:15):
and do it right on the show. I had the
best sifting cat litter box that has ever been or
ever will be. It's not out there anymore because I
went through a big learning curve when I did. I
was fresh out of school, but I did.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I got it on QVC all by my lonesome, and
I could have kept on inventing, but instead I got
kind of dragged into just being an entrepreneur, which is
kind of cool too, But invention was the That was
the most fun thing I've done in business ever.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Is inventing. I love that too.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
We've never had an inventor here in my seven years
of doing this show, so I think the first one
that always would love to find out those backstories of
hobbies besides music, So an inventor I would not have imagined.
But congratulations on that to it. Not everybody can get
themselves on QBC. So you've done that to check that
box exactly. Yeah, which is good there, love it too.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
That was like being on a TV show because the
way they do it, the way they do it, it's
this big studio with different rooms, different settings in a
house and it's all just studio, but it's like you're
on there and you feel like you're on a TV
show and it's very high pressure. It's way more high
pressure than you know, because people are like, how many
sales can we get in a minute? How many sales
(42:32):
can we get in a minute, And so that was
a really good learning experience in terms of dealing with pressure.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And you're right, I used to watch that too sometimes.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
So the sports items would come across there for sale,
autograph membabilia, and it was about the numbers and how
many clicks could happen to So a lot of pressure
when you're in a situation.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh yeah as well.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
And I can't wait to come out to see you
at a live show there we get to town and
of course I know Country Radio Seminar coming up March
eighteenth to twentieth there for my seventh or eighth one.
I've lost count there, but hopefully we'll be there doing
it again. Hey, appreciate the time here on the show.
Hope you had a great time and looking forward to
more great things happening in your career, and we appreciate
the time and hey continue success going forward.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
To thank you so much for having me. I can't
wait to get back on. Hopefully we'll have some good
news down the road and you'll want to have me
back on. So excited to be here, man.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I know there's more good things coming for a guy
like Ansel Brown. The new album is called The Rise.
Across all the DSPs out there and check it out
across that and make sure you go to Ansel Brown
dot com for all the fun stuff, the tour dates,
the merchandise and all the good stuff out there on
that very website.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Would love to have you back.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
And if you guys end up two step into the
record DM or email me and tell me how good
it is, because our job is to educate you on
the artist of yesterday and of course today here in
Grand Slam of music, sports entertainment, the backstage past KYB
in ninety eight point one, your Bay Area Broadcasting Network
and our friends THWN dot orgon of course out there
the Sports Guys Podcast dot com. And Anytime Heart Radio podcast.
(44:01):
We'll be back with more great guests coming up over
the next few weeks, leading up to the Thanksgiving break
and of course the Christmas holidays.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
We'll talk to you guys soon. Take care, God bless
we'll see you soon.
Speaker 10 (44:11):
Hey, folks, this is Australian country star Andrew Swift and
you're listening to the award nominated Backstage Pass on KYBN
ninety eight point one, your Bay Area broadcasting network and
on the Sports Guys podcast dot com and anytime on
iHeartRadio podcasts and at THWN dot org.
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