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Oh hnry. Welcome to the exisode, a place where fact is fiction and
fiction is reality. Now here's yourhost, Robert Kanno. You do in
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I comnswer chime chip it gets youthere again time. Thank good evening
one and all, and welcome backto the X Zone. My name is
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Rob mcconnlin. For the next hour, I'm going to be your host and
your guide as together we cross thetime space continuum to this place that I
call the X Zone. It's aplace where people dare to believe and dare
to be heard. It's a placewhere fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
And the xxone is coming to youfrom our broadcast center and studios in
Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,on your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty www
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dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.My guest this hour exponation is a gentleman
I've had the pleasure of knowing formany years. His name is Bart Sibrel
Bart. You may have heard ofBart, you may have seen his videos.
This is the gentleman who wrote andproduced very very interesting video called A
Funny Thing Happened on the Way tothe Moon. Maybe you We'll get into
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that a little later on, butthe main topic of tonight's show is Bart's
latest book entitled Moonman, The TrueStory of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit
List. Joining me now is Bart, Sibarell and Bart, Welcome back to
the excellent Alay. Was great talkingto you, my friend. Oh,
thank you, Rob. How's goingup in Canada? Well, it's kind
of getting cold up here, myfriend. And yesterday we had that that
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event at the Rainbow Crossing Rainbow Bridgewhere there was an explosion on the US
side, a car hit a barrierand blew up, and they shut down
all the bridges from Canada to theUnited States throughout in Niagara, which would
have been the Lewiston Bridge, theRainbow Bridge, the Peace Bridge, and
the bridge from Fort Erie over toBuffalo. So it was quite an event,
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but everything was settled, everything wasinvestigated, no signs of terrorism,
and the bridges are back open today, so things are pretty good here.
You know, as I'm listening toyou had described that I remember that event
that just happened was on the nationalnews on every network in the United States.
And what happened a few years agowhen the entire Canadian US border was
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closed down for a week because peoplewere protesting the dictatorship of governments that call
themselves democracy. Do you realize thatwas not reported a single time for an
entire week on any major news networkin the United States, but one car
exploding on the border was You wouldthink the United States, a Canadian border
being blocked by protesters would be nationalnews number one story for a week.
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They didn't even mention it. Theymentioned the President got a new cat,
So isn't that interesting? Yeah,but you know how the media is Bart
for the listeners who may not havehad the pleasure of listening to on the
xcell before them. A little bitabout who Bart Sebrel is. Well,
I am a filmmaker. I startedout actually as an actor, and then
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when I realized that I was treatinga total stranger's words like gospel, I
thought, well, I could writea play. So I started writing plays.
I started making those into short films. Someone who had a hotel saw
one and said, hey, weneed someone to do our TV commercial,
And that was when I started myvideo production company, producing TV commercials,
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documentaries, music videos and the like, and I kind of stumbled upon what
I'm known for, my most famousor infamous film, which you can see
for free on the homepage at sibreldot com. It's just SS and Sam
I be as a boy r el sibrel dot com. It's a film
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about the unfortunate truth that, yes, indeed, the Moon landings were falsified
by the corrupt federal government. Andwhen I listened to your intro Rob about
how fact is fiction, well,that's the case of this. They alleged
fact as they went to the Moon, but that's a fiction, and the
fiction that it was done, youknow, on Earth in a studio that
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actually is true. And we haveso much incontrovertible proof that the Moon missions
were fake. And I originally turneddown the project because so much of it
seemed plausible that maybe they really didfake it. Keep in mind, my
job as a filmmaker is to makefake scenes look real, and I noticed
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that those scenes that they claim werein natural sunlight on the Moon were absolutely
shot with electrical light, which meansthey're on Earth. And that kind of
planted a seed in my mind.You know, that's kind of strange,
and then you realize that today,with fifty years better technology than in nineteen
sixty nine, the farthest NASA cansend an astronaut into outer space is only
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one thousandth the distance to the Moon. So what they're really claiming is fifty
years ago ahead of schedule. Onthe first attempt, when all of NASA
combined had one million at the computingpower cell phone, they sent astronauts a
thousand times farther then they can sendhim today with fifty years better technology.
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So what they're really saying is,for the first time in history, technology
was greater in the past than inthe future. But that's a historic and
scientific impossibility. If it weren't forpeople's emotional attachment to the glorious event,
they would see the truth. Infact, I did Glenn Beck's radio show
not too long ago, and he'san alleged anti corruption, anti deep state
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person, but his thought is,well, I know how bad America is,
but at least we went to themoon. And then he has on
an astronaut and kisses his feet foran entire hour, not realizing that that
and accomplished to several homicides that Iknow of, for covering up people who
were going to expose the moon landing. And so this is horrendous. This
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is the state of the world,this is the state of our government,
and it's outrageous that they're that arrogant. Bart do you think with the technology
they have today, as well aswhat they've learned a both the Van Allen
Belt and the radiation that has beenaffecting astronauts even in the Shuttle aircraft.
Shuttle missions that they will and cango back to the Moon, or I
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shouldn't say back to the moon.Can go to the Moon this time?
No, they can't. I mean, for example, in nineteen forty five
they exploded the first atomic bomb inthe history of the world. Just ten
years later atomic bombs were one thousandtimes more powerful. So if we could
go to the Moon on the firstattempt with one million at the computing power
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a cell phone, we would havebeen on Mars. Ten years later.
We've been another solar system by now, and there'd be bases all over the
Moon. There are bases at theSouth Pole right now, which by the
way, took six attempts to reachhere on Earth. And somehow they did
it on the first attempt to ada schedule, and it has one hundred
mile per hour winds one hundred degreesbelow zero. But there are bases there
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because it's humanly possible. If itwere humanly possible to go to the Moon,
there'd be bases there. We'd havebeen on Mars a long time ago.
In fact, the latest alleged Moonmission they sent an unmanned probe with
mannekins to orbit the Moon. Okay, so fifty four years ago we can
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play golf and drive cars on theMoon, and with fifty four years better
technology, we can't even send humansto orbit the Moon. We have to
use mannequins. And the reason isyou alluded to it rike space radiation that
they would have to travel through.And my book, which is on audio,
I read it myself kinderlaprint at sibreldot com Interactive book. There are
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sixteen video clips at sebral dot comyou can watch for free. Now.
I basically write a chapter and say, look, if you want to understand
the next chapter, go watch videolink one, video link two. And
one of the clips is just mindblowing. We have a NASA employee saying
that the technology necessary for an astronautto go to the Moon and back and
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survive the radiation has yet to beinvented. He's saying it on camera.
I mean, so, if thetechnology to go to the Moon and back
has yet to be invented, thenhow did they do it in nineteen sixty
nine. It just boggles the mind. And then when I try to talk
to the guy as a journalist,they refuse to let him talk to anybody,
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and they set Geiger counters up intothe radiation field and I said,
give me those readings. They sayit's a secret, And I'm like,
why would the temperature of the Sun, or the amount of helium in Jupiter's
atmosphere, or the amount of radiationsurrounding the Earth be a secret? Because
if they release the it would provethat the Apollo astronauts would have been killed
going to the Moon with the technologythey had, because they still to this
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day cannot go to the Moon.Well, weren't the Russians on the Moon
first with a robotic mission? Theycrashed a probe to the Moon first,
and then they also landed a probeon the Moon about six months before the
Apollo eleven mission, But they neversent humans to the Moon. In fact,
the most industrialized country on Earth,which is China, says to go
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from today to the technology necessary fora man to walk on the Moon is
going to take twenty years. Sohow could we with five decades older technology
developed the technology in eight and ahalf years, you see. And so
we point out that I found classifiedfootage of the crew of Apollo eleven faking
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part of the photography right in frontof your eyes, dated two days into
the flight, with the third trackof audio telling them how to do it
from the CIA. The NBC Newswas going to break this story nationwide.
I worked for NBC News and theysaid, this proves conclusively that we didn't
go to the Moon. This classifiedfootage i't covered. I said, I
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know, it's unbelievable. And thenthey get a call from the federal government
threatening them. They back down anddon't broadcast it. Why would then go
ahead, Yeah, just go andask you bart, why would the CIA
be involved in this false flag Moonmission? Well, I guess that's their
forte I suppose. And so,first of all, we have the logic
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you can't have greater technology in thepast and in the future. Secondly,
we have them faking part of themission right in front of your eyes.
Thirdly, we have just go tosibrel dot com watch the three minute video.
I mean, you can prove themoon landings are fake with one photograph
that they claim is on the moon. Were objects five feet apart from one
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another. The sados diverge at ninetydegrees, when if it were taken in
sunlight, they'd be parallel and haveher intersect you. I mean, you
can prove it right there and thenbelieve it or not. There was a
gentleman by the name of Cyrus EugeneAcres, and as he was dying in
two thousand and four, he confessedfor fear of God that he was a
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murderer. He worked at Cannon AirForce Base and Clovis, New Mexico.
The military police came in, theysaid, who did you kill? He
said, a coworker. Why didyou kill him? Because the coworker and
I eye witnessed the filming of Apolloeleven June, first, second and third,
nineteen sixty eight at Cannon Air ForceBase and he was going to tell
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the world because he thought it wasmorally wrong, and I killed him to
keep it a secret. We havethat testimony. So we have four incontrovertible
proofs that the Moon missions were fake, and people just don't want to believe
it. They're like Glenn Beckett's like, I know, a may Erica is
so corrupt and so fallen, butat least we went to the Moon,
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and it's so easy to fake.There's no independent press coverage. And Eugene
Krantz, who was flight director,said, all those guys in command center
can tell no difference whatsoever between asimulation and an actual flight. And just
because there were hundreds of thousands ofpeople involved doesn't mean they were in on
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the secret. I mean, that'slike saying Bank of America has four hundred
thousand tellers, So do they thebank tellers and the CEO know the same
about the corruption in the bank.No, completely different. Hey, Bart,
you stand by my friend. We'vegot to take our first break.
Exspnation Bart Cebrello's our special guest.What a guy. If you think this
has been fascinating, wait until weget Bart to talk about the astronaut that
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actually decked him. Because he wantedto get the astronaut to put his hand
on the Bible and say that theyactually went to the Moon. None of
the three astronaut le's we do that. We'll be back on the other side
of this break as the XON continuesright here on your town Radio Classic twelve
twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dotCA. And welcome back to the Xcell
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and I'm Rob McConnell and you're listeningto the X Zone on your hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. A. My guess
this hour is Bart Sibrel. Hiswebsite is sibrel dot com. That's s
I B R E L dot com. Bart. Before we went to the
break, I was just doing alittle bit of a teaser for the audience
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about the astronauts that you tried toget them to put their hand on the
Bible and swear that they went tothe Moon, and not one would do
it. Well, there was anatheist who did it, but the people
who believed in God would not doit. And basically after we produced the
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funny thing happened on the Way tothe Moon, which by the way,
was financed by a multimillionaire who buildsrockets for NASA, who knows that the
missions are fake. Okay, hegave us a million dollars to expose it
because he thought it was his patrioticduty, and after the film came out,
four to five people reversed their opinionafter watching the forty five minute movie,
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which you can see for free atsibrel dot com, largely because of
this footage we uncovered. I've shownit in theaters and people just gasp when
the lights come up and you seethey're using a one foot model of the
Earth that's allegedly floating in space andit's not. And so I guess from
courtroom TV shows as a kid,I thought, well, why not just
track down some of these astronauts andsee if they'll swear on a Bible.
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So he tracked down about nine ofthem and asked them to swear on the
Bible, including Neil Armstrong, BuzzAldrin, and Michael Collins from the First
Mission, and none of them woulddo it. Now, Rob, if
I walked on the Moon and someonethought it was all done in a TV
studio, you know, I wouldfind that hysterically funny. And if they
wanted me to smear on a Biblethat I really did, I'm like,
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sure, would two Bibles make youfeel better. But when I went up
to buzz Aldrin, and that's thefamous puncturt around the world, it was
like I walked up to him infront of his wife and said, oh,
your mistress says Helo, you seea sword with no point causes no
injury. And he reacted because wehad live TV cameras there and we were
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exposing him for the liar that heis. And it's too bad. You
know, if one person only claimedto have walked on the Moon, maybe
they would have told the truth bynow. But if one confesses, it's
really inadvertently forcing everyone else to confessas well. And that film is called
Astronauts Gone Wild. After all,one astronaut punched me, another one kicked
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me, one threatened to punch me, one threat to shoot me. And
it gets even better. I showedthis classified footage to Edgar Mitchell and his
house. He turned beat red.He said, where did you get this
footage? Get out of my house, and he literally kicks me from behind
as I'm picking up my equipment.He saw angry cursing. This is a
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guy supposed to be some peace inlove guru. And in the commotion we
left a high quality wireless microphone onhim, and in the commotion, my
camera man forgot to hit stop record. So while the camera's in the backseat
of the rental car and the astronaut'shouse driveway, while he and his son
are in their house with the doorsclosed, we're recording their conversations. And
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about three months after the fact,we did transcripts of all the interviews,
and the film secretary calls me upfrantic and says, Bart, Bart,
do you know what they're talking about? When you left the microphone on them
and you know you turned and cameback and got it. I'm like,
I don't know what. She says. They're talking about calling this CIA to
have you assassinated. I'm like,you, that's funny. This is no
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Bart. They're talking about calling theCIA to have you killed. And I'm
like, that's funny. She said, Bart, you're not listening to me.
They're calling talking about calling the CIAto have you killed, And sure
enough they are. Do you wantto call the CIA and have him whacked?
Now? F i'd some silly personwho thinks the moon missions are fake
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and we're done at a TV studio, Why with the CIA? Care?
You see what I'm saying, andnot only do we have an eyewitness to
the filming of the moon landing,which was the chief of security at the
Cannon Air Force Base, which wasthe headquarters of their intelligence division. He
personally stood beside President Johnson June first, nineteen sixty eight, and President Johnson
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gave him a list of fifteen VIPvisitors who were allowed to come in and
observe. We published that list inmy book at sibrel dot com, some
of whom are still alive today,some of whom presumably are CIA agents.
I remember watching your both your movies. A funny thing happened on the way
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to the Moon and then astronauts gonewild, And wasn't it edgar Mitchell's son
who said, should I call theCIA and have him whacked? That's right,
he's talking about that with his father. First of all, why would
an apollo astronaut have the CIA andhis roller decks right exactly? If it's
a quote, you know, civilianmission. And maybe he's knocked off people
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before and told the son about itand boasted about it. And there's a
scripture it says when someone issues acurse that the person does not deserve,
it will fall back on their head. So the young man who suggested to
his Apollo astronaut father that he haveme killed later died of cancer at the
age of twenty six. Oh,my lord bart, how could something as
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big as the moonhak be suppressed?Well, it's actually one of the easiest
secrets to keep. The secret.The number one answer I hear why the
Moon missions must be real is fourhundred thousand people were involved. But that's
Do you really think the CIA isso stupid to tell the person making the
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glove or the door handle or theboot they were really not going to the
moon. Be sure not to tellanybody. Like I said, there's four
hundred thousand bank tellers at Bank ofAmerica, but they are clueless about the
corruption that the CIA knows. Andthere's no independent press coverage. Do you
realize that it's not like World WarTwo that's going on in front of billions
of people here on Earth or evennine to eleven. It's a TV picture
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controlled by their Richard Nixon administration.Do you see that we have to take
their word for it and there's noindependent press coverage whatsoever. It's actually one
of the easiest things to fake.Plus people wanted to believe it. You
know, whoever killed can the guy'sstill dead, whoever did nine to eleven?
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All those people are dead. Thisis different. This is a positive
lie. And you take him candyaway and given someone a big plate of
manure instead, and they will defendthat candy, just like Glenn Beck defending
the candy defending murderers on his show. It's pretty sad. Tell us about
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your book, moon Man, TheTrue Story of a filmmaker on the CIA
hit List. Well, it tookme about fifteen years to ride. It
took me about two years to edit. Basically, you know, the funny
thing happened on the way to theMoon that took seven years to produce.
An Astronaut's Gone Wild took three years. All this added up to about a
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million dollars, and people wanted toknow the backstory. And there's an incredible
backstory. We've talked about it onyour show before. In two parts.
I think basically I was giving themthe benefit of the doubt. Yeah,
the shadows intersect, and yeah theycan't repeat it. All this, you
know, years later, but it'sstill I still need concrete proof. And
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then as I'm editing the film,winding it up, I pop in a
tape and says do not show tothe public. Came on the screen.
I'm like, oh, this shouldbe good. So I hit fast forward
and it's the same shot for fiveminutes, ten minutes, twenty minutes.
It's a special effect shot of allegedlythey're Earth floating in space. The lights
come up and it's really a onefoot model. They're faking being halfway to
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the moon. And there's a thirdtrack of audio of the CIA telling him
to fake a four second radio delayto make it appear that they're farther away
from Earth orbit than they really are. This is what convinced in BC News
that they did not go to themoon. One news director was afraid to
broadcast it for fear would causes civilwar, that it would enrage the public.
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Even though nine to eleven killed morepeople, even though the JFK assassination
and witness lists probably more people wereknocked off, this is different. This
is burned in people's hearts with pride. They got down on their knees and
prayed, They waved their flag,they teared up, They held ticker tape
parades. They printed it on coins, they printed on stamps. They gave
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them medals of honor for being suchgood liars, and that is our country.
I'm sad to say that's the truthof it. Now. Now,
when was the lunar landing? Lunarmission supposed to have happened in? What
year? That was nineteen sixty nine. They launched on July sixteenth and allegedly
walked on the Moon on the twentieth. However, it was filmed a little
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more than a year earlier at CannonAir Force Base. According to eyewitness Cyrus
Eugene Acres, I mean, asyou're dying, you've got nothing to lose,
you're not going to confess that you'rea murderer of all things right.
And then when the military police askedhim why he did it, his son,
who was my sword, who waswriting all this down, said well,
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we're covering up the moon landing fraudwhich was filmed at our base.
They built a fake moonlanding set,threatened to kill anybody who told anybody about
it. In fact, less thantwo years ago, when I'm confirming all
this information with his son, twoCIA agents show up to the guy's house
and threatened to kill him and hisfamily if he ever talks to me again
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about his father's participation in the moonlanding falsification. And this is our government.
I mean, you have to understand, according to the dead man's relatives,
Okay, Bobby Kennedy Junior, hisuncle was killed by the CIA.
Now the Kennedy family has more accessto knowledge about that event than Oliver Stone
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does. And if they say hewas killed by the CIA, I believe
him. And that Robert mcnamer.As he was dying, he said the
whole reason the Vietnam War started,the Pearl Harbor event, that we needed
the Gulf of tonkn We just madeit up and never happened. Congress passed
the law the Gulf of Talking Resolution, based on something the CIA made up
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that led to the death of fiftyeight, two hundred twenty Americans. So
if they're willing to kill fifty twohundred and twenty of their own soldiers,
willing to kill their own president,I think they're willing to fake an image
of the moon on television, don'tyou, Rob, I certainly do it.
And my question to you, Bertis President Kennedy was supposed to,
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or believed to be a very upfrontperson. You know he put his brother
Bobby in as an attorney general whowent after the mob and you know,
tried to shut everything down. Thatwas that was no go What didn't Kennedy
try to abolish the CI at onetime? Absolutely, that was one of
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the things he was probably going todo, maybe not by the end of
the year, but probably by thespringtime. He says, there was going
to break it into so many partsand scatter it to the wind. He
said, there's no purpose for ushaving this. All right, you said,
their entity of their own that's lawless. Okay, here's my question.
Is it possible that part of thereason why Kennedy was assassinated on November twenty
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second back in nineteen sixty three isthat he caught wind that the moon landing
was going to be hoaxed? Well, actually, it's I don't know if
it's in my book or not.To tell you the truth, they have
to go back and look. Butand two thousand and nine, I got
a contact who was in the Kennedyadministration in the White House, at an
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office in the White House, andthey sent me a document about the Kennedy
administration discussing the possibility of having tofake the moon landing to keep the goal,
and so they were talking about fakingit much sooner than I thought.
I don't think Kennedy would have gonealong with that. I think the main
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reason he was killed is he wasgoing to get rid of the CIA.
Therefore the CIA killed him, andhe was going to abolish the Federal Reserve,
which are the billionaires and so forth, who would lose billions and billions
of dollars trillions over the course offifty years if the US started printing their
own money by their own authority ratherthan Bart. Stand by, my friend,
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we've got to we've got to takegreat we got to take our break
here at Bart. Bart Sibrel isour guest. Sibrel dot Com is his
website. This is the X onewith yours Turley Rob McConnell, coming to
you from our broadcast centers in Sat. Catharine's, Ontario. On you ready
for this Hometown Radio Classic twelve twentywww Dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA A
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game is I was born in thewagon of a traveling show. Mamma used
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to dance all the money in domdo whatever I radel little Gospel Sell Dot
Welcome back everyone, Bart Sebrella isour special guest. His website is sibrel
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dot com, s I, BR E L dot com and this is
the ex soon on your hometown RadioClassic twelve twenty stream us. Visit our
website at www dot Classic twelve twentydot ca A Bart, have you ever
had any close calls, I meanbesides the one that that you know we
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know about with the CIA or anyother nefarious organization with alphabet behind their names.
Well, my book, I thinkis twelve and two chapters are devoted
to my encounters with the CIA.The first one is called A Funny Thing
Happened on the Way to CNN.So basically, after I found this incredible
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footage of them faking part of themoonish and right in front of your eyes,
I just wept. I'm like,oh my gosh, they really did
fake the moon landing. How sadis that? And then I panicked.
I'm like, oh my gosh,I got proof they faked the moon landing
in my house with a toddler sonand a blind roommate. What have I
gotten myself into? And I immediatelydrive to CNN in the middle of the
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night, and then I'm surrounded inthe back alley of CNN by government agents
who literally abduct me. They confiscatethese high end broadcast stapes. They're not
the original, of course, andthey drugged me with true serum to the
point of vomiting, and I escapedtheir custody. I made my way back
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to Nashville, where I lived atthe time, and I peed in a
cup. I said, I gothim, I got true serum in me.
I'm going to prove to NBC youknow that I was drugged by some
exotic drug only the CIA would have. I give it to a friend to
put in a lab in his name, thinking I can now wit the CIA.
And after a couple of days goby, I follow up and I
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said, well, what were thelab results? He said, well,
there was a problem at the laband I'm like, well what problem?
He said, well they had abreak in over the weekend and I'm like,
yeah, so what he said,Well, funny thing, the only
thing stolen was your your example.So somehow the spooks from the CIA tracked
that down and found out about it. Anyway, despite me, you know,
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trying to be secretive about it.That was probably you know, it
was a multi day adventure there it'soutlined in my book at sebral dot com,
which again I read myself an audiobookor kindle or print, and it
was pretty hairy there for a while. I had kind of a little bit
of trouble ten years later when Igot that White House document from a source
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at the Kennedy administration. Had abunch of strange things happened then, and
it seemed like every now and then, I'll run into somebody who seemed suspicious
to me. And of course,when I was editing the book, my
source the son of Cyrus Eugene Acres. I mean, he literally was threatened
by the CIA to kill him andhis family. And this actually involved the
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White House. White House did aninvestigation, a senator on the United States
Intelligence Committee did an investigation, andso did the FBI regarding my book regarding
my findings regarding the moonlanding being fake. Of course, they didn't publish any
of this, but that's what happened. And this is very serious because the
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second to the last chapter is calledNASA's Greatest Fear. And when I had
a millionaire backing me, I mean, the film took seven years because of
all the research we did, andI had amazing information that I was asked
not to put in the film torelease at a later date, and that
information is in the book, oneof which is my four hour interview with
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Betty Grissom, who is the widowof Gus Grissom, who was going to
be the first man to walk onthe Moon until he became a whistleblower at
NASSA. In fact, days beforehe was killed, he brought in reporters
all the way up the elevator tothe top of the rocket without permission,
and to fixed the lemon the sizeof a grapefruit, to the top of
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the rocket and had the newspapers takea picture of it. The man who's
going to be the first man towalk in the moon says, the equipment
is a piece of junk. It'sa lemon. A few days later,
his widow, who I interviewed forfour hours, said, on January twenty
sixth, nineteen sixty seven, hecame home from work and said, on
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for some string reason, the CIAis all over the launchpad today, inspecting
the equipment. I wonder why they'rehere. I've never seen him here before.
Very next day, the guy's deadfrom quote faulty equipment so she is
saying, and her son is saying, who's a seven to forty seventh pilot,
that they have one hundred percent forensicevidence that he was murdered by the
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CIA. So not only is ourgovernment taking a third of our income to
deceive us about the moon landing,then they're using that money to hire CIA
agents to kill our brethren who aretrying to expose their crimes. And it's
my understanding, Rob, that thefirst document of the United States wasn't the
Constitution, it was the Declaration ofIndependence, where it was proclaimed throughout the
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world that when any government becomes destructiveof life, liberty, and the pursuit
of happiness, it is the rightof the people to alter or aboliship.
Well, what's the first one life. They're murdering their own people, not
my conspiracy theory, that's the testimonyof the dead man's wife. So this
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is the state of the world.And it's amazing people who are anti corruption,
anti deep states still defend the moonlanding. It just boggles the mind.
Bart I still have a hard timetrying to understand why the CIA is
involved, because according to what Iunderstand, they are not supposed to be
operating within the United States. They'resupposed to be operating outside of the United
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States. Well, they killed Kennedyin Dallas, so there's some proof right
there. And of course they violatethe law all the time. They're not
supposed to assassinate leaders. And thatthey boast in the Wall Street Journal.
We killed this democratically elected president ofthis country. We killed the democratically elected
president of this They boast about it, They boast about breaking the law.
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Congress passed the law in nineteen ninetyeight to audit the Pentagon. Twenty years
go by without an audit. Theyjust ignore the law and no one calls
them on it. William Bennie orfrom the nssay, the CIA's offshoot for
thirty years, he said on NationalTV a few years ago. The CIA
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monitors, the private cell phoned conversationsof Supreme Court justices in order to get
dirt on them, to blackmail themto vote the way the intelligence agencies tell
them to vote. That's an establishedfact. No one contradicted it. Not
a single investigation by the FBI orJustice Department that Supreme Court justices are being
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blackmailed. How can that be?But that's the way that it is.
So what do you think is goingto happen now that the missions are being
planned to go back to the Moon. Well, they can't go, and
they're going to keep postponing it andtell an asteroids strike or economic collapse or
another illness circling the globe and whichpoint no one will care who shot JFK
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or if the moon landings are realor not. That's scary, Bart,
Yeah, it's the world that welive in. You know. Jesus said
that things will get so bad inthe last days that unless God intervenes,
no one will survive. I takethat to mean that the evil people are
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gonna win. I mean they killedKennedy in broad daylight. They knocked up
two hundred eye witnesses. They gotaway with the golf of Tonkin, they
got away with the moon landing,they got away with nine to eleven,
They got away with this little thing. For the last three years, they're
just more and more entrenched, andmore and more powerful, and more and
more experts at what they want toachieve through evil means. The problem for
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them is what good is it togain the world and forfeiture soul so that
they'll have the world as it's crumblingaway, but they won't make it to
the other side, and I feelsorry for them. Part. Do you
think that the movie Capricorn one waswas produced to give the Americans the idea
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that the moon lending could have beenfaked? Absolutely? People in Hollywood like
me. We saw the lighting iselectrical lighting. The average person can't see
that. We said, look,this is done in a TV studio,
this is not sunlight. So therewas a book called We Never Went to
the Moon by Bill Casey, myoriginal source at NASO, and they basically
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parodied fake Mars landing because they didn'twant to say fake moon landing that would
be too offensive. So and ithad all the top people in the seventies,
I mean the top build people thathad Elliott goul Brenda vacar, Hal
Hobrooke, Sam Waterson, James Brolin, Karen Black. It had Telly sabalasaid
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it's just a star after star,a great movie. Simpsons. Yeah no,
I was saying that the the moviealso had oj Simpson. And of
course if the space fit, ifthe space suit doesn't, if the space
suit doesn't fed, you can't convict. Yeah. Yeah, well you know,
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I'm not sure what that means.It seems like the guy was a
different person back then. You know, there's a saying in conversion that someone
is born again, and apparently peoplecan be unborn, because when I look
at O. J. Simpson's faceand demeanor and prior, you know,
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nineteen seventy eight or prior, hehas complete innocence about him. Yes,
and yet something happened. He wastransformed the opposite direction apparently, and didn't
work out too good for him.No, he should have been he should
have stayed making the naked gun movies. They were theater. Listen quickly,
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we've got to take a break inabout three minutes. What was your opinion
on the congressional hearings into UAPs andUFOs. Well, I think that's that's
ridiculous. I think they're planning ondoing an alien deception. Von Braun,
the guy in charge to faking theMoon mission, his closest friend. Before
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he died, She said he toldher multiple times that the federal government is
going to fake it an the innovasion. In fifty four years, only one
source has come out saying the moonlandingsare fake. As he was dying and
his son was threatened with death forbeing associated with him. Why are all
these military people coming forward and quoteleaking information unless it's contrived because of it
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really a secret, we wouldn't knowanything about it. And so except maybe
a deathbed confession, and only onein fifty years. So they want us
to believe in aliens, which isI believe proof that it's not true.
If you go to sibrel dot com, I've written an extensive article about are
there aliens? Are they real ornot? And you'd be surprised of the
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findings explanation. Bart Sebrella's are aspecial guest to this hour. His website
is sibrel dot com. Sibrel dotcom. Do you believe that there are
ets out there that they're coming here? Well, they've pointed radio telescopes for
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fifty years in every direction of theuniverse and they haven't found one radio signal.
You see, normally, the truthis the exact opposite of what the
corrupt government wants us to believe.They want us to believe aliens are everywhere.
What if we're in the latest scientistsays we're in. If there were
intelligent life elsewhere, then we wouldpick up radio signals and the only radio
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signals in the whole universe are comingfrom Earth. At the same time,
UFOs are real, So what doesthat mean. The top two UFO researchers,
one Frenchman, one American, afterforty years of research, came to
the same conclusion. UFOs are real, but they're not from outer space.
They're from Earth. And thirdly,they're demonic. Demonic, that's right,
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let's talk meaning that aliens are potentiallyfallen angels. Well, let's talk about
this when we come back from thisfinal break, Bart, because I had
a guest on a couple of nightsago who said the exact same thing.
Another guest I had on oh maybetwo three four weeks ago said that with
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the advent of AI that the governmentwas in fact going to simulate an alien
attack. Wow, all this isstarting to come together. Bart, Sibrel's
our guest, sibr e l isthe website and we'll be back on the
other side of this break as wefinalize this edition of The X Zone with
Here's truly Rob McConnell from our broadcastcenter and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,
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Canada, and you're listening to theX Zone on your Hometown Radio Classic
twelve twenty www Dot Classic twelve twentydot cal saw a couple of bottles of
doctor Law from the flow of asound and call Sam Forever Night of a
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Mount. Hey lady, you ladycursing in your life. You're a discontented
mother and a rich invented wife.I have no doubt you dream about the
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things you never do. But Iwish someone had talked to me like I
want to talk to you who havebeen to Georgia and California anywhere I could
run Excellent radio. Bart Cebrells myspecial guest sibr l dot com and he's
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the author of Moonman, The TrueStory of a Filmmaker on the CIA hit
List, And you're listening to uson the let me see here, my
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all this and more at www dotClassic twelve twenty dot CA. Before we
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went to the break, we weretalking about angels, fallen angels, and
it seems that a lot of thereligious philosophies are pointing at these days as
the final days. How does thiscorrelate with what you believe and what you
see? Bert Well? Originally,like I mentioned before, I turned down
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the project of making the film aboutthe moon landings being faked because it seemed
like they could have been faked andif I looked into it, it might
be dangerous. So I turned itdown, and over the next several years
I read the Bible five times incover to cover. I wasn't a Christian,
but it did develop in me andunderstanding that there is good versus evil,
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there is truth versus lies, andit makes sense that there's a judgment
for how we live this life.And I realized that if they faked the
moon landing, that is actually moreprofound historically than if they had actually gone.
Do you realize that the faking ofthe moon landing by the alleged greatest
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nation on Earth, the most honorable, the savior of the world, the
spreader of truth and democracy, freedomof speech, blah blah blah. They
fake the moon landing, that's thenation that did it. That is so
much more profound than if they hadactually gone. And when I realized that
was true, I said, thisis worth dying for. It's an important
truth for mankind to know. AndI have a lot of Jewish friends,
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and even though I'm a Christian,or try to be, most of my
Jewish friends are more Christian than myChristian friends are. A lot of the
time. They're very righteous people,very down to earth, and their rabbis,
their prophets say that the Messiah iscoming soon, and of course our
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book says the Messiah is coming soon. They think it's the first time,
we think it's the second time.But it's still at the same time,
which is to me highly significant.I think we are living in the last
days. If you go to sibreldot com scrolled down about halfway, you'll
see this very detailed article I wroteabout aliens, and it has a link
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in there for von Braun's secretary sayinghe warned her multiple times that there's going
to be a fake alien invasion.And it appears to me that these are
actually fallen angels. There are somecontroversial parts in Genesis six, where it
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says that the sons of God Elohimand are married with the daughters of men
and it produced giants. The offspringwere giants. Now, in Jesus's day,
that's what they believed, but aroundeighteen fifty they changed that theology to
means something else. I think itmeans what it says. The oldest book
in the Bible is actually job theterm angels, which was when it says
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the angels presented them before God.It's the same word us there in Genesis,
so that's what it means. Andso people say, well, Jesus
said, we won't get married inheaven, will be like the angels.
But then, of course getting marriedand having sex or two different things,
because you can have sex without beingmarried. You can be married and not
have sex. So they're kind ofjumping to a conclusion there because it sounds
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a little bit odd. But ifyou look at Genesis three point fifteen,
it says that there will be warbetween two bloodlines, the blood line of
Adam and the bloodline of fallen angelsLucifer, and I don't think it's a
coincidence that all but one of theUnited States presidents come from the same bloodline.
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I think they're proticting that bloodline.I think the reason why alien abductions
often harvest people's sperm and eggs isbecause the fallen angel offspring are sterile.
It says in Leviticus nineteen nineteen,do not cross breed species. And when
you do against God's command, whenyou take a horse and a donkey to
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get a mule, the mule issterile. And I think they have to
re harvest human eggs and sperm inorder to repopulate themselves. And that's why
God said be fruitful and multiply,and the people who around the world say,
depopulate the earth by ninety four percent. You see. So I think
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this is what's going on. Asodd as it may seem, as bizarre
as it may seem, that's likelywhat's going on. And of course Satan,
he's a liar, and all thoseangels are liars. How can you
prove or disprove if an alien popsdown in a spacecraft or what appears to
be a spacecraft and says they're fromyou know, hundreds of light years away,
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how can you prove or disprove itif they've been around for thousands of
years, and they have thousands ofyears of technology. Maybe it can fly
and the air and under the water, and you know, who knows what.
But they're not going to tell thetruth. They're liars. The fact,
people in the military who have saidthey've met aliens say they're liars.
They're pathological liars. And so Ithink maybe this is one of the ways
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they're going to usher in a oneworld government. Again, just go to
sibrel dot com, scroll down abouthalfway and you can see this articles that
I spent hundreds of hours of writingand researching, and has multiple clips in
it as well that seemed to indicatethat we're it. In fact, there's
a TV show called Ancient Aliens,right, and I thought it. I
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thought it was a one time show. Apparently it was a series for many
years, and they basically had toadmit because of this DNA study about twenty
years ago called the Eve Project,where they took DNA from all nationalities and
traced it backwards in time and saidall humans scientifically came from one woman,
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just like the Bible says. Sopeople who want to deny God say,
well, how can we deal withthat, because that's exactly how can how
can a person just appear and haveno lineage before them, just like the
Bible. So they said, Okay, we can't say that's not true because
it's right here on the DNA.Okay, here's a good one. Why
don't we say we were put hereby aliens? Now, in three and
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a half years, they never askeda question that I would ask as a
third grader. Well, if wewere made by aliens, then who made
the aliens? And they forget inthe Book of Isaiah, chapter fourteen,
I think it says Lucifer wanted toascend to the throne of God and be
God. So if they're saying theworld is saying, the latest scientific you
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know, theology is saying we weremade by aliens, And if aliens are
really fallen angels which are led byLucifer, then what they're really saying rob
is were made by Lucifer and notGod. You see Lucifer taking what do
you call it, credit for makingmankind and that's what the latest intellectuals believe.
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Can you believe that? Not?Really? Stephen Stephen Greer is either
a you know, an agent orcompletely deceived because his number one source that
aliens are real are the Apollo Astronauts. The guy says the moon landings are
fake. I mean, we're realwhen they're clearly fake. And his number
one proof that the that aliens andUFOs must be real is the Apollo Astronauts.
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Say so. Well, edgar Mitchellgoes on you know, TV show
after TV show saying UFOs are realand the moon landing is real. So
I guess they're just about as realas the moon landing. Something that I
can't understand, Bart, And whenyou alluded to the advancement of technology of
the of the Luciferians, why dothey need to keep on abducting people?
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If they're this smart, would theyhave not decoded the DNA, put it
in a bank somewhere and then recreatedit as needed? Well maybe, so
maybe that's what they're doing, becauseall the alien abduction stories I heard are
from the eighties and I haven't heardany since then. So yeah, maybe
they are getting more advanced. Idon't know. But if you go to
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you know, do a Google searchfor World Economic Forum logo. This is
a multi billion dollar organization that admitsto picking the leaders of the world openly
says, we choose the leaders ofthe world, and they can spend a
billion dollars on their logo if theywant to. And they have World on
one line has an O in it, Economic on another line, little off
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center has an O in it,and Forum has an O in it,
and a little half circle going throughall three o's forming six sixty six hidden
in plain sight. Apparently these peopleliterally worship Lucifer. And that's not the
only logo that has six to sixtysix in it. Google does, and
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many other have three six's in themthat it's just bizarre. You would think
that would be the most outrageous thing, But the most outrageous things is a
being true, like the moon landingswere indeed fake, and apparently the world
leader some of them actually worshiped theDevil. I had a guest on many
years ago. His name is PastorHarry Walter, and he was saying to
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us during the show, he said, did you know rob six' sixty
six is not the mark of theDevil? I said, well, what
do you mean? He said,it's www. I'm I'm sure about that
one. In case who knows whatit is. The interesting thing about Revelation
thirteen. Is it says in thelast days, everyone rich and poor,
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slave and free would be forced tobuy and sell with sixty sixty six on
it. Pick up a barcode ofa can of super box of cereal.
There's a first line, a middleline, and a last line that are
longer without a number. They're thesame line. And if you see a
sixth somewhere in the code, youcan look above it and to the left,
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and that's the thickness of the sixth. Every barcode, believe it or
not, starts with a six asa six in the middle and ends with
a six. It's not denied itdoes. They just say it's a coincidence.
So forced to do something is differentthan volunteeringly do it. Like if
I push your shoulders down to kneel, that's not you willingly kneeling, is
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it. So if you're forced,you can't buy anything, even a Bible
without a barcode. So that's notour fault. So I don't think we're
going to be judged on that.But this is a prophecy right there.
Everyone is being forced to buy andsell with six sixty six on it.
It's remarkable, it's right there.In the Bible and it's right there in
every barcode of everything in the store. Bart, we've got one minute left.
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What is the message that you wouldlike to leave with the excell Nation
tonight. I don't know. Imean, I used to think the moon
missions were real with all of myheart, but the truth is so important.
I watched Men in Black three forlike the fifth time last night,
and it says the bitterest truth isbetter than the sweetest lie. If you
really have an open mind, goto sibrel dot com. S is in
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sam ib as in boy R el sabrel dot com. Get the book
an audio print or kindle and there'ssixteen video links and you will have the
revelation, the epiphany, just likeI did. They really did fake the
moon landing. It's worse than wethought. All that is at sibrel dot
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com. You know that opens upa cannib wormspart. If they faked the
moon landing, what else has beenfaked? I don't know. I think
you're in the next room. Idon't really think you're in Canada. Well,
yeah, it's your turn to makethe coffee after the show part Sebrell.
I want to thank you very muchfor joining us tonight. All was
a great pleasure talking to you,and I look forward to the next time
you join us back here in theX Or stay safe, my friend,
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you too, Rob. Goodnight part. That's it for tonight's ex O Nation.
I'll be back tomorrow night. Asonce again we crossed the time space
can continuum to this place that Icall the xone, a place where people
dare to believe and dare to beheard. It's a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality. AndWow, as you heard tonight, a
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lot of eyes are open thanks toBart Sibrel. Visit his website cybrel dot
com. I'm Rob McConnell. Thisis the X Zone and you've been listening
to us on Classic twelve twenty herein Saint Catharines online at www dot Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. So untiltomorrow night, keep your eyes to the
sky and your heart to the light. Good Night, everyone,