January 28, 2024 • 57 mins
In April of 2008, several members of various local paranormal investigation groups got together to form Paranormal Boston. This small group, as well as the addition of a few new, talented, carefully-chosen individuals, possess either a strong background in paranormal investigations or they’ve had their own profound paranormal experience. All are open-minded skeptics who take a scientific approach that goes much deeper than looking for unexplained creaks and shadows (like you see on television).
Our group’s credibility and professional reputation have led to requests to conduct home and business investigations throughout New England, and we have gained additional recognition via national and local cable television shows, national and local radio shows, local newspapers, trade magazines, books, podcasts and social media.
Despite many requests from reality television shows through the years to perform investigations on questionable paranormal cable TV shows, we have made a conscious choice to stay out of the limelight and avoid the reputation that often comes with compromising your values to boost television ratings (and egos).
In January of 2018, we changed our name to Paranormal New England to better identify the entire geographical area we have worked in the past, and will continue to work in the future. We are dedicated, and passionate, and here to help our fellow New Englanders should they need us.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
Our group’s credibility and professional reputation have led to requests to conduct home and business investigations throughout New England, and we have gained additional recognition via national and local cable television shows, national and local radio shows, local newspapers, trade magazines, books, podcasts and social media.
Despite many requests from reality television shows through the years to perform investigations on questionable paranormal cable TV shows, we have made a conscious choice to stay out of the limelight and avoid the reputation that often comes with compromising your values to boost television ratings (and egos).
In January of 2018, we changed our name to Paranormal New England to better identify the entire geographical area we have worked in the past, and will continue to work in the future. We are dedicated, and passionate, and here to help our fellow New Englanders should they need us.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
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All Henriy, Welcome to the XZone, a place where fact is fiction
and fiction is reality. Now here'syour host, Rob McConnell, and welcome
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to the exone everyone. I amRob McConnell. We're coming to you from
our studios in St. Catharines,Ontario and your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty
at www dot Classic twelve twenty dotCA. If you'd like to send me
an email, it's very simple.Xzone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA and
we'll get back to you as soonas we can. Now, my first
guest tonight is Joe rain One andJoe, welcome to the xxone. Thank
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you, Rob, appreciate the invite. All right, tell us a little
bit about yourself, Joe. So, I'm just a normal, regular nine
to five guy. I'm an ITmanager, but as a hobby, I'm
a part time paranormal investigator. I'vebeen doing it since I'm twenty ten,
so this is my thirteenth year.What was it that got you into investigating
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the paranormal? Joe? So,unlike most paranormal investigators, Rob, they
typically have had some type of aparanormal experience that peaked their interest to look
further into the phenomenon. For me, it was a little different. It
was actually the introductions of the ghosthunting shows in the early to mid two
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thousands that got me peaked. Iwas more curious as to whether it was
just put on for entertainment purposes only, and what did you find there?
Well, a few things. Itis absolutely real, paranormal experiences can definitely
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happen. But I also feel asthough the television shows tend to overdramatize things,
and you know, possibly you know, dare I even say, maybe
fabric fabricate some evidence. Can yougive us some examples of that, Joe,
Well, well, speaking for myself, Rob, you know, when
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you paranormal investigate a location, youcan be there, you know, hours,
possibly days and not get a singleshred of evidence. And in order
to have a television show, aweekly television show and to have reels of
evidence, I just don't think it'spossible from my experience. Now, when
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you go and do a paranormal investigation, Joe, do you go by yourself
or do you go with the team? I never go by myself. I
will at least go with one otherperson, but primarily I do go with
my team. Now, where aresome of the places that you've gone to
do paranormal investigations with you and yourteam? So we're based out of New
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England. We're very lucky that we'rerich in a lot of history. We're
just outside of Boston. There's alsoSalem, Massachusetts. You know where the
witch trials were. So we've donea bulk of different locations in Salem,
including home residential cases. We havedone the ever so famous Lizzie Borden House.
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We have done local spots that maybesome of the audience wouldn't know but
are actually very big in the paranormalcommunity. A few places off the top
of my head is the Escape ParisMansion and Gardner, Mass It's been in
quite a number of different TV showsthroughout the years, along with the Houghton
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Mansion in North Adams, mass.And another popular spot which has gained some
traction is the Usssalem, which isa naval battleship docked outside of Quincy,
mass. So those are some ofthe more local ones. We've also traveled
throughout the country and done a lotvarious prisons, various asylums, things like
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that. I noticed on the informationthat you sent US, so that you've
also done investigations at the Waverly Hills, the Ohio State Reformatory, Eastern State
Penitentiary, Penhurst Asylum, Rolling HillsAsylum, and the Shane Lee Hotel.
I've got to ask you. Thesehave been featured on many, many tele
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television shows. Why do the ghostsor the spirits remain there? Do they
enjoy being on TV? Really reallygood question. I'm not sure whether they
enjoy being on TV or not,but I think they enjoy the fact that
a lot of people are going tothose locations specifically to elicit communication with them.
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Okay, now, when you wereat let's say, Waverley Hills,
what kind of paranormal activity did youand your team encounter? So you picked
a really, really great one.Waverly Hills is definitely probably in the easily
the top three of locations that we'vegone to that have really had wonderful evidence,
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so to speak. So the bulkerof our evidence is audio. There's
a phenomenon called EVE, which standsfor Electronic Voice phenomenon, and that's essentially
you're recording a conversation with a recorder. Can be digital, can be analog,
could even be a cell phone andyou're asking questions in the hope of
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getting a response, and when youreceive the response, it's not audible to
the human ears, but the devicesactually can pick it up. So Waverly
was really really wonderful as far asgetting a lot of electronic voice phenomenon.
We were getting direct answers to someof our questions. Another very rare phenomenon
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that actually took place at Waverley iscalled a disembodied voice. So that's when
you hear a voice that your nakedear is picking it up. It's so
you're not relying on the equipment.It's very very rare. It's probably only
happened a handful of times to usand to myself. Waverly was actually one
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of those locations where we actually caughta disembodied voice, and it just so
happened to be right in front ofthe Death Tunnel affectionately known and Waverly is
the death Tunnel, because that wasthe shoot where they would transport the bodies
after you know, patient's circumbed toyou know, TV or or whatnot.
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Well, how is it possible thatyou do not hear when you're doing an
EVP, you do not hear theresponse to your questions or however you and
your team do it, and yetit registers on a digital or analog recording
device. Rob, I'll tell you, if I had that answer for you,
I could unlock a big secret.Nobody really knows. Nobody knows how
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they imprint their voice. They youknow, they don't you know the theories
that it's coming through the field,the electromagnitic frequency field. The thing that
kind of gets me a little bitis the fact that how are they hearing
me when I ask a question?You know, are they on the other
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side with a particular device that theyusing to hear me? Good question.
Mind you, mediums and other psychicscan communicate with the other side without the
use of any any equipment, Sohow come investigating the paranormal as an EVP
requires the equipment instead of the directcontact that mediums and psychics have. So
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for our team, we don't haveany mediums with psychics on the team,
nor are we scientists, but weare professional and we rely on equipment.
So we want to be more scientificbased. Like I said, even though
none of us are scientists, wejust want to rely mainly on equipment because
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it's you know, if you getsomething on equipment, it's there, it's
in black and white, we canshare it. So during your investigations,
first of all, if somebody wasto call you up and say, Joe,
I heard you on the x zonon Classic twelve twenty how and I
think I've got a ghost in myhouse, Joe, can you come down
and visit us? And these peopleare in the area with that you actually
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live in, and let's say inMassachusetts, somewhere near Boston, how would
you conduct the investigation. Well,first off, Rob, we would do
a thorough vetting of the client firstand foremost, because just throughout the years,
we've realized that there's a lot,for lack of a better term,
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there's a lot of mental illness andpotential under the influence of alcohol or prescription
drug use, and people seem tothink that they might be having some type
of paranormal activity when in you know, reality, it's it's probably induced by
again mental illness or you know,potential drug or alcohol use. So we
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would do it thorough vetting of theclient just to kind of rule that out
before we would even invest any ofour time in visiting the location. And
you know, we definitely don't wantto put ourselves in harms way either.
And through the through the course ofthe years, we've you know, we've
kind of wasted a lot of cyclesjust with claims that were kind of nonsense.
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But but after the vetting process,we would typically what we would do
is we would do a like awalk through first of the location with the
homeowners there, get their stories,get the so called hotspots of where they
might have seen something or heard something. We would take notes. We would
sweep the home again for those EMFfields that I spoke to you a little
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a little bit earlier about. Thoseare fields of electromagnetic frequency that are generated
by large appliances, faulty wiring,things like that. We would do a
base sweep of the location because wewant to make sure that when we are
eventually there to paranormal investigate in ourequipment that's designed to pick up EMF as
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going off, that we know thatit's not the refrigerator on the other side
of the wall, or you know, a washer or a dry or anything
like that. So that that wouldbe why we would do the walk through,
and then we would schedule the homeinvestigation at a different point in time
at that point, we would kindof prefer that the homeowners aren't in the
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house, but if they insist onbeing, they we would obviously welcome them
as well, and we would typicallyspend you know, anywhere between four in
six hours in the location see ifwe can document any evidence and collaborate some
of the some of the claims ofthe paranormal activity for the homeowners. Okay,
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now you're taking you're accumulating all thisdata through your investigation. How long
does it take you to go throughthe data, go through the EVPs,
go through any video files that you'vecollected, to come to your conclusion as
to whether or not there is ahaunting there or if it is just something
else that has nothing to do withthe paranormal It's actually a great question,
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Rob. So basically, for everyrecorder you have running, and for every
camera you have running, you needto sit and review audio and video for
each one of those cameras. Soit's a painstaking process. It's a painstaking
process. So on the average,what are we looking at an extra fifteen
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to twenty hours worth of work easily? Wow? Yeah, And how many
investigations do you do? Do youdo a year? Joe with your your
team. So the it's quieted downa lot. There was a so we
used to have a one eight hundrednumber, and back in the day,
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probably in the mid mid two thousands, we would probably take at least three
to four phone calls a week onthat one eight hundred line. And then
but that was also kind of likethe height of the paranormal television shows and
things like that, So I thinkpeople kind of maybe thought they might add
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something going on, and they realizedteams are out, they had to investigate.
Hey, Joe, I hate todo this, but I've got to
take a break. Please stand byex oonation. Our guest this hour is
Joe rain One. His website isParanormalnew England dot com. And we'll be
back on the other side of thisbreak as we continue here in the X
on Your Hometown Radio Classic twelve twentywww dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
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Welcome back to the X ON andI'm Rob Oconnell. We're coming to you
from our broadcast entering studios in St. Catherines, Ontario, on your Hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classictwelve. Joe rain Win is our special
guest Paranormal New England. Sorry ParanormalNew England dot com. Joel, thanks
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for joining us tonight. And Ihave to ask you this, Joe,
has there ever been an investigation thatyou've done that you had the bejeeber scared
out of you. I'm gonna answeryou totally honestly. No, never,
not once. I don't think I'dbe doing this if I got easily rattled.
So has there any been anything thatyou've seen or heard during an investigation
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that that makes you believe that theparanormal is very real? Yeah? So
again, a lot of the audioevidence we've gotten throughout the years, we've
gotten direct responses to questions as faras you know, who's still residing in
the location, And we've gotten incertain cases for us and last names that
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we could actually go back and lookthrough like some type of an archive and
actually find that there was such aperson that did exist in that spot.
So the audio stuff is very realand it's very informative. The visual piece
is a lot hotter to capture anddocument for whatever reason. I just don't
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know whether they don't have enough energyto manifest I have. I can say
that I have never seen an apparitionin my you know, thirteen plus years
now of doing this, I thinkthe closest thing I've seen is what is
termed a shadow figure. I sawthat at a local, very very popular
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location here in New England, whichis the Conjuring House in Barisville, Rhode
Island that spawned that whole Conjuring Housemovie series. So that was one of
the real tangible things that I cansay I've seen with my own eyes was
a shadow figure, and it washumanoid and form. It didn't have any
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particular features that I could say,well, it was a male or it
was a female, but I couldsee you tosso limbs head and it was
just like a gray mass that movedrather quickly. So that was one of
the more profound things I have seenin my experience. So when you're out
on these investigations, have you everbeen scratched, Have you ever been pushed?
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Have you ever felt any physical evidenceof the ghost or the spirit?
I have ever been scratched. Ihave seen scratches appear on teammates as we've
investigated, just out of nowhere,So I can't speak to the phenomenon myself.
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I have been nudged near some staircasesI guess we'll go back to to
Waverly. That that phenomenon did happento me at Waverley. It felt like
a you know, a hand justkind of gave me a little nudge when
I was near an open staircase.Fortunately it wasn't hot enough that I,
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you know, ended up going down. It another experience that I've had rob
that I never experienced before. AndI always heard of people saying, oh,
well, you know, Joe,you've gotten that cobweb feeling, haven't
you, And you know, myhonest answer was like, no, I
I haven't, and they're like,oh, well you'll you'll know when you
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get it. And that recently happenedto me, probably this past fall.
I was at a local spot inWeymouth, Massachusetts called the Emory Estate.
It's a it's an estate that wasgiven back to the town of Weymouth and
the town decided that they would openedthe house up as a museum and then
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the staff that was there was havingparanormal experiences, and they actually decided to
create a volunteer staff to lead folkson public ghost hunts there. So I
volunteered for them. I'm one ofthe staff there and It was actually a
night after one of the public ghosthunts. All of the guests had left.
I had walked upstairs to turn offsome of the lights, and I
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walked through a doorframe of one ofthe bedrooms that mind you, I've walked
in and out of that doorframe probablya good half a dozen times, just
that night alone, and I gotthe sensation that I just walked right through
this big cobweb. And I knewthat there's no way Spider could have spun
a big cob web like that sincethe last time I was up in that
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area of the house. So Ijust buy pure fate. I happened to
have my recorder on me. Ihit the record button, I started asking
some questions who was up here withme? And I probably got one of
the clearest EVPs I've ever captured inmy career. I got a male voice
saying the name Brandon, and hedid it in an Irish brogue, which
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really completely blew me away. Soit came out like Brandon please. So
those are some of the more physicalthings that I can speak to, you
know, because I've experienced it.As far as me experienced a scratch,
I can't say one way or another, how that feels in your opinion?
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Why are these spirits? Why arethese ghosts staying behind? Why don't they
go to the light? Why don'tthey go to the next dimension or wherever
ghosts go when they decided to leavehome. I think some and this is
personal, you know, you askedme for my personal because none of this
is proven yet. But I justthink some are trapped in like some type
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of a go between realm between now, between Earth and you know, if
you want to say heaven, whythey are trapped or maybe not trapped but
want to stay here. I meanI would go probably with you know,
maybe they just loved the place thatthey're in. I mean, speaking for
the Emery estate, I could saythat because it's a beautiful house, it's
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a beautiful grounds. I could kindof understand why a spirit might want to
hang there. When you start talkingabout some of the more darker locations,
like the Waiverleies and like the prisonsand things like that, I'm not exactly
sure why the lack of a betterterm, a soul or a spirit would
still want to stay there. Myonly guess is that I think they're just
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trapped there for whatever reason. Whyis it some people have the ability to
have an experience with the paranormal andother people don't. You know. Yeah,
I've known groups that go in twentythirty people, maybe five or six
people will have an actual experience andthe other people say, well, we
felt nothing, we saw nothing,absolutely zip. Yeah, It's it's very
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common. I just think certain peopleare more open to it, maybe maybe
mentally other people. You know,if you're a die hard skeptic, something
maybe going on that you're not You'renot even aware of it. You're not
even going to put it into thefact that it might be something paranormal.
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Speaking again to some of those publicghost hunts that I've been privy to and
have led, you know, there'sdynamics in groups. So you could take
a group of four or five peopleagain, I'll use the Emory state as
a prime example. You could takethem through that house rum by rum,
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just with your equipment, using youraudio, using your video, and some
groups, for whatever reason, wedon't get anything, We don't get any
e VP, we don't get anyequipment. Going off later in the night,
you take a different group up there, and it's like a different house,
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you know, and I can onlysurmise that it has something to do
with the personalities of the people there. There's some thought within the scientific community
that the paranormal events that are reportedduring a tour or a or a ghost
hunter are actually perpetrated by members ofthe group itself and are manifested that way.
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What's your opinion on that. I'veheard the same. I think it's
going to go back to the statementI just I just said. I think
it has something to do with justthe people being more open to experiencing something.
They're more believable. I'm sorry,Rob, The people are more believable.
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They want something to happen, sothey believe something is going to happen.
So is it possible that they're actuallycreating that something that they're looking for.
That's a good possibility. I wasthinking more along the lines that they
they they're believers now, whether theyhad paranormal experiences or not, they just
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believe in it. And for whateverreason, it's those more open minded groups
that definitely have more experiences. I'vejust noticed it time and time again.
You know, you got a people, a group of people that are that
are more skeptical and usually like I'llsay, like that group was kind of
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flat, like, meaning like wedidn't get anything with them, you know,
Okay, I can understand that.I guess I'm trying to quantify how
some people within a group can experiencethe paranormal and others can't. Do you
think that the people who go onthese or the majority of people that go
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on the ghost tours, for example, have seen television shows and their expectation
of something to happen is higher thanthe people who go there who may be
a little skeptical. I think that'sa safe statement. Yeah. Yeah.
When you and your team go outon an investigation, how many members are
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in your team? First of all, we currently have thirteen members in Paranormal
New England. Now do all ofyou go out at the same time to
the same location. It's very rarethat we'll have a full team out at
an investigation. It usually it usuallyaverages out to about six to seven people
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because again we're all professionals, allhave day jobs, it's a hobby for
us. We all have families,so not everybody can make every single investigation.
So out of thirteen, if weget called in to do something,
if we can get half the teamto show up, that's a good number.
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There are many people who believe thatobjects in museums haunted locations can be
possessed for a lack of better word, how do you and your group protect
yourselves from not bringing someone unwanted homewith you, I mean of the paranormal
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Well, I can answer this.I know in my thirteen years, as
far as I know, I've neverbrought anything home with me. I don't
think any of our any of myteammates have because I'm sure somebody would have
mentioned that to one of us.I know people that claim that they've been
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to very active locations and then thenext day, you know, like they
had cabinets in their home open andthings like that. They're credible people.
I believe them. I can onlyspeak for myself and my team, like
we've never had that type of experienceafter an investigation ex O Nation, I
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guess this hour is Joe not yet, not yet. Joe Rainwin is our
special guest and he is with excuseme, Paranormalnew England dot com. What's
the best way for people to contactyou if in fact they do want to
have your services to investigate what theybelieve to be a haunted location. Joe,
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they can go right to that website. They can go right to Paranormal
New England dot com and we havea team email address, and we also
have a Facebook page that we monitordaily, so between the Facebook page and
the website, folks can definitely geta hold of us. All right,
Joe, standbye. We've got totake another break here and xtonation. This
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is the Xcelle. I'm Rob McConnelland we're coming to you on your hometown
radio here in Saint Catherine's Classic twelvetwenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
And if you'd like to send mean email, it's very simple.
X Zone at Classic twelve twenty dotCA. Joe and I return after this
break. Don't go away, excellNation. Joe raid One is our special
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guest. Paranormal New England dot comis their website, and you're listening to
the X One with your Shirley,Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in studios
in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, onyour hometown radio Classic twelve twenty www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Joe, Well, I've spoken to a number
of paranormal investigators over the years,and some of them report feeling sick in
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the midst of an investigation or shortlybefore the investigation has reached its end.
Have you or any of your membersever had this experience? We have.
Yeah, I've felt a little nauseousprior to investigating in at certain points during
an investigation. I'm you know,I'm not exactly sure whether it was something
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just you know, physically induced,or whether it was something of paranormal in
nature, you know, to jokinglyenough, typically we do go out to
eat before we we do a case, so you know, I'm sure some
of that is probably fifty to fifty. You know. Here's a question,
and it's a direct question, Joe, does evil exist? I think it
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does. I think it does.And during your paranormal investigations, have you
ever seen any evidence that what you'redealing with is something evil, something demonic?
And so how do you handle that? I'm going to go on record,
I I don't believe in in demons, but I believe that there are
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evil spirits. I believe that ifyou were kind of not so great in
life, then why would that changein death? Uh, just to put
it mildly, I mean, likeI said, the worst that's probably ever
happened to myself or any of ourteammates. A few of my teammates,
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I did say, did get scratched, I did get pushed, mainly just
I've I've been called a lot ofderogatory terms via EVP Really yes, yes?
Why do you think they that they'duse derogatory words or curse and cuss
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you or your team? What dothey expect to accomplish with that? You
know? I don't know if ifthey just want to present themselves as like
a like, as like a badass or or or something to that degree,
or they want to portray themselves like, hey, like I'm I'm evil,
I'm a demon. My group,I can tell you right now,
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we go into any location, whetherit's a public hunt or or a private
home case, with the utmost respect. We don't provoke in any way,
shape or form. Widge is thereto hopefully get answers for ourselves, answers
for the clients, answers for thelocation. All I do is ask questions
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that I just hope I get,you know, some type of informational response.
And in the process of asking thesequestions, I've gotten some really really
nasty things said to me, Uh, why do why do why do you
guys call it a ghost hunt?Because usually when you go on a hunt,
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h intend on capturing or killing something, and ghosts are already dead.
Yeah, I think, Yeah,I don't know. I don't know who
coined the term hunt, Rob,to be honest with you, but yeah,
you bring up a really good point, you know. So, Yeah,
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and I think it's easier to justsay we're going on a ghost hunt
rather than we're going on a paranormalinvestigation. It takes It's just ghost hunt
is shorter and it rolls off thetongue a little more smoothly. Okay,
what's your take on this booming paratourismindustry that is cropping up all over the
place. Well, if the moneyis going back into the location, I'm
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one hundred percent all for it.There are there are historic places that are
in need of dire repair. Andif the owners have said location are taking
the funds from these ghost hunts andtours and things like that and are putting
them back into the location to keepthe location open for future other paranormal investigators,
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I'm all for it. You know, some folks, you know,
I think it is a little itmight be a little bit of a cash
grab for them. Because you know, you go to the same place that
you know it needed a roof fiveyears ago, and you go out there
five years later and it still needsa roof. You kind of have to
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scratch ahead and question that I wouldimagine. So, but if a place
is repaired, isn't there the possibilitythat the repairs will actually affect the paranormal
activity within it? Yes? Yes, And And to answer that question in
another way, when we do geta the potential residential case that comes in,
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like one of the very first questionswe ask is has there been a
recent remodeling done to the property?And more than half the time the answer
is yes. So I think aremodel would definitely stir up the paranormal activity
in the location. But is itpossible that it may also quiet or cancel
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the paranormal activity in that location sincewhatever may be causing the spirits or the
entities to remain there, For example, a I don't know, a clock
or an old stool, whatever,if that is removed, or there's a
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wall that has to be removed andthat wall was the center of focal point
of the paranormal activity. Isn't itpossible that by removing that or repairing it,
it may in fact cancel the paranormalactivity within that property. Well,
I would say anything's possible, youknow, and and and especially if more
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so taking something out of a outof a location. I mean, the
spirit just could have been attached to, like you said, like a grandfather
clock, say, and then thatclock gets taken out of the location for
whatever reason. And I think thathas a lot to do with like when
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folks go to these antique places andthey buy these antiques. These antiques clearly
came from some location, and nowthis clock is in somebody's home, So
I guess that could take the spiritout of that original location. And now
you have a person that is callingus because all of a sudden they're having
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paranormal experiences in their home and theydon't know why. So I could see
that that point is very very validthat if an object or something is taken
out of a location, that itcould quiet or quell the location. Does
ones religious philosophy have an effect onthe paranormal activity? So, I mean,
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I'm a Roman Catholic. We don'tget into any type of religion when
we're questioning potential home case whatsoever.I mean, sometimes it just happens to
come out in the conversation, butwe don't particularly base our findings on any
type of religion. Does holy waterwork? I think holy water works if
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you want it to work. Haveyou ever had the need to call in
members of the clergy to clear orhelp you investigate a house that may show
signs of demonic possession? Well,I'm gonna go on a limb again,
and this is just my personal beliefthat I do not believe there's anything demonic
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out there, but in order tomake a homeowner feel more at ease,
yes, we have involved local clergyto come out to the house and bless
the house. I personally think itwas more of a placebo right to help
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the homeowner than anything else where.Do you see a paranormal investigating in five
years from now? Oh? Neverthought about that. You know, well,
I'll tell you Rob. In mythirteen years, not much has changed.
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The technology as far as recorders andcameras has obviously gotten better. I
mean when I started back ten yearsago, everything was on a digital video
tape, and now everything go rightto an s D card. I would
imagine that we'll probably see some moregadgets invented. And I just feel as
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though the quality of cameras in audiois going to be that much greater in
five years, and for that matter, that much smaller, which helps us
out because now you know, ifyou can limit your gear cases to smaller
equipment, you know, you're justbetter off in general. What about these
voice boxes that are being sold,do they work? Yeah? So in
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my opinion, I would say thatI think you're referring to a ghost box
or a sparrot box, right,Yeah. So I will say that when
I initially started my journey in parallelinvestigating, I did not believe in ghost
boxes or sparrout boxes. I havechanged my stance on that after being out
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with different teams and seeing some ofthe results they have gotten with these particular
devices, I feel as though thereis definitely something to them. And I'll
also kind of based out on thefact that we've gotten direct responses via that
that particular that's called ITC. Whenyou use a ghost box or a SPA
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up box, that's called instrumental transcommunication. By the way, for the audience,
And again I'll go back to somederogatory statements. I have heard some
very derogatory things via a ghost boxspaut box, and that's something that I
know. The FCC would never ina bazillion years allowed to go on public
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airwaves. That is so true,either would Classic twelve twenty. I was
gonna mention that have you ever hadan encounter that or an investigation that involves
children? Yes, yes, Ihave does how does the investigation of a
child in the paranormal effect you andyour team? And I've got about a
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minute before I have to go formy break. It's it's very disheartening when
you hear the voice of a child. I'm a parent, I have two
children. Most of the members onthe team have kids, so it's disheartening
when during an EVP session you heara child calling for its mother and you
hear babies crying. Yeah, Iimagine it would be because I'm you know,
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Laura and I have six children.We have fifteen grandchildren, two great
grandchildren, so that would be very, very taxing. I'm sure on any
parent. You and I have totake our final break for this hour.
Joe, please stand by and explanation. I guess this hours Joan rain One
His website is Paranormal New England dotcom. I also have a Facebook page
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which is Facebook dot com forward slashParanormal New England. They have a YouTube
channel and all you need to dois go to YouTube and type in Paranormal
New England and their videos will allpop up all over the place. This
is the Next Zone. I amRob McConnell and we're coming to you from
our broadcast center in studios in SaintCatharines, Ontario, Canada, and we're
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on your hometown Radio Classic twelve twentyat www dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA
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ex ex shoe last twenty and welcomeback every one. This is the X
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On with your SHIRLI Rob McConnell onyour tone, your hometown Radio twelve twenty
and uh some great shows on twelvetwenty. Join Stephen danny Z first thing
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course the X Zone with Here's Truli. Rob McConnell. Moddy through Friday,
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CA, and you can always sendme an email to xone at Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. Joe Rainone isour special guest and Joe the Paranormal New
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England group. What has been youryour number one investigation that you and your
team believe that this is the investigationof all investigations. We did an investigation
of trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum and theamount of activity in that location was,
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for lack of a better term,off the paranormal chart from the second we
walked through those doors till the secondwe left. You want to talk about
electronic voice phenomenon, You know,it's it's very you know, you go
into a location and if you comeout of that location with one really good
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clear EVP like you would consider that, you know, a very good night.
Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum. Just aboutevery single time we hit a record
button on a recorder, we hadan EVP. Wow. Yeah. Now
do all the teams that go thereget EVPs? And are they always the
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same EVPs or are they different EVPs? So interestingly enough, when we were
at trans Alleghany. Our guide forthe night basically said that, you know,
the last night's group that came throughhere, it was very quiet here.
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We didn't get they didn't get muchof anything. And then you know,
we show up there the following nightand like I said, the place
was like off the hook paranormally speaking. So that's that's a real you know,
that's a real hit or miss typething when you when you when you
book a book a location. Uh. The interesting piece to this is we
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were in a certain room in transAllegheny and the tour guide was telling us
the story how one of the patientskilled another patient by hanging them and stabbing
them. And the girl was like, yeah, and the last time I
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was here, I got this EVPsaying I'm a monster. And we had
our recorder running while she was tellingus the story of the murder and of
her EVP, and during our recordingwe got the same exact EVP that she
got. We got a voice sayingI'm a monster. What about the other
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parts of the paranormal investigation where thereis articles that move and people actually get
the impression that they're being watched andthat there's cold spots hotspots. Do you
guys also encounter experience all those othersigns and symptoms of a paranormal activity when
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you're out there. Yeah, soit's rare to get something as far as
like a poltergeist activity where something moves, but that has definitely happened to us.
That happened to us in Gettysburg.We were investigating an old farmhouse that
served as a Confederate hospital and weactually had one of our glow sticks that
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was down on one of the tablesin the basement actually kind of on command,
shoot off the table. Didn't didn'tdidn't didn't roll off, didn't fall
off. It was like it wenttwo to three feet right across the room.
And that was just something that probablyabout ten to fifteen minutes prior to
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that, I had just asked,hey, you know, if there's any
spirits down here of any of anyCivil War soldiers, you know, can
you knock that glow stick off thetable? And it happened, and to
our dismay, and it was oneof those things we just didn't have a
camera on it, we didn't havea recorder running to document it. And
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you know, I just looked ateverybody and said, you know what,
even if we did have a cameraon it, nobody was gonna believe us.
They're going to think somebody tugged thatwith a with a fishing line or
something like that. But why wouldthey think that? Is there that much
deception? And despite within the paranormalgroups, yeah, there is. I
think there's a lot of evidence fabricationgoing on, and I think the whole
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YouTube generation kind of kind of nudgethat along a little bit more because nobody's
gonna want to watch a video unlesssomething happens, you know, and again,
not everything, not everything happens.And we've been to locations, We've
been to specific locations like again likethe ESK Paris mansion and Gardner Mass.
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I've lost track at how many timesI've investigated that particular location and we'll go
in there, we'll spend our sixtyeight to ten hours there and nothing could
happen the whole night, and thevery next trip in there, it's like
a different house. So you justcan't bank on paranormal activity happening, even
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in a location that has had itprior. So if you're a YouTube creator
and you're banking on people watching yourvideo, you know, I wouldn't be
surprised that they're they're doing something asfar as fabricating evidence. Let's go back
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a couple of minutes, because wewere talking about this paranormal place that you
went, and you've got this EVP, the same EVP that another young lady
got about. Yes, okay,where the person said, I am a
monster? Does the paranormal activity haveanything to do with the weather, the
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phase of the moon, the electromagneticarea where the paranormal location is lay lines?
So at one point in time,we had a prior member who was
an actual scientist and he was anumber cruncher. So when we got a
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call to do something, he documentedeverything you just mentioned in more, humidity,
barometer, temperature, phase of themoon, you name it. The
one correlation he could make was thatlay Lines definitely had something to do with
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it. I wish I could getinto it further, Rob, but I'm
just not qualified. Why do peopleseek the paranormal? Why do people look
for spirits? Why do people lookfor ghosts? All these years and like
you yourself said, nothing has changed, so why continue? Yeah, you
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have to have a passion for it, because again, more often than not,
nothing happens truth be told and again, you know, you go to
a spot and if you come outof there with one EVP, it was
a good night. But it's justlike I just I kind of simulate it
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to like my golf game. Youknow, I'm a terrible golfer, and
I'll lose balls, I'll shank andi'll hook, and but I'll remember that
drive that I was dead center inthe fairway. Like I'll come home talking
about that, you know. Sothat's what keeps me going. You know.
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Personally, I think a lot ofpeople just have questions because they've had
their own paranormal experiences and they wantto know why that happened or how that
happened and is that going to happenagain? And I think that fuels it
for certain people as well. Let'ssay that tomorrow and night, there's a
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news conference and the members of thescientific community are able to prove beyond a
shadow of a doubt that is theperson the group who are actually creating the
paranormal event, and that there isnothing paranormal about it. What do you
think what happened to the paranormal groups. I honestly don't think anything would change.
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I really don't think I think Groopswould still go out and do it,
you know, I mean, Iso you're basically saying that it's related
to the personalities and the groups that'scausing the phenomenon. I'm just saying that
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this would be something that the scientificcommunity would come up with and say,
listen, there's no such thing asthe paranormal. Here's our proof. Boom.
Oh. You know, it's justlike trying to convince a skeptic.
I think, you know, Ibelieve in it now. I've been doing
it long enough. I know theparanormal is real. I know it's not
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what it's portrayed on television. Atthis point in time, I don't think
it would change anything for me,because, I mean, science has been
proven wrong in the past. Sowhat was it that turned you from a
non believer into the hardcore believer thatyou are today. It's the phenomenon of
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electronic voice phenomenon. And when Iwent out, when I started doing this,
I probably went a solid six monthswrote ever capturing an EVP, and
I was at the point where,like, I don't think that the phenomenon
is true. I think it's fake. I think it's just not possible.
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How come, I haven't gotten anything. And then it happened. I got
my very first EVP. It wasa home case in Weymouth, mass We
were out in the woods backyard ofthis home where the lady was like,
I'm hearing kids laughing and giggling andrunning through my house. I don't have
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kids. I caught my very firstEVP of a child basically calling my name.
Now that sold it for me,right there. Listen, Joe,
it's a time where we must sayso long for tonight, but do me
a favorite. Let our listeners knowhow they can contact you and give the
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give your website and your Facebook pageout. Yeah, so if anybody wants
to get a hold of us,we're www dot paranorm Paranormalnew England dot com.
All the links to any of oursocial media is out there. We
do have a Facebook page, wedo have a YouTube channel, and I
would say go to the website pageand get our links from there. Joe,
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thanks very much for joining us,and I look forward to the next
time you and I meet right hereback in the X Zone on Classic twelve
twenty. Thank you for having me. Ron. You have a nice night,
sir, you sir, all right, exponation. Tell me, are
you a skeptic or a believer?Send me your emails X Zone at xxone
right, No, no, that'sthe old one. I'm sorry, scratch
track erase. Send me your emailX Zone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
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That's class X Zone at Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. I'll be back
tomorrow night at eleven o'clock is onceagain we cross the time space continuum to
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to believe and dear to be heard. It's a place where the fact is
fiction, had fiction is reality.And tomorrow night I'll take some cough medicine.
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How's that, Craig? All right, to my senior producer, my
good friend, Craig West. ThanksCraig for all your hard work, and
to each and every one of youtonight, the listening audience of Classic twelve
twenty, have a great time,enjoy your life, share with one another,
take care of one another, andalways remember, keep your eyes to
the sky and your heart to thelight. I'm Rob McConnell. This is
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the Xzone, and you're listening tous on your hometown radio, Classic twelve
twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dotca
All Henriy, Welcome to the XZone, a place where fact is fiction
and fiction is reality. Now here'syour host, Rob McConnell, and welcome
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to the exone everyone. I amRob McConnell. We're coming to you from
our studios in St. Catharines,Ontario and your hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty
at www dot Classic twelve twenty dotCA. If you'd like to send me
an email, it's very simple.Xzone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA and
we'll get back to you as soonas we can. Now, my first
guest tonight is Joe rain One andJoe, welcome to the xxone. Thank
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you, Rob, appreciate the invite. All right, tell us a little
bit about yourself, Joe. So, I'm just a normal, regular nine
to five guy. I'm an ITmanager, but as a hobby, I'm
a part time paranormal investigator. I'vebeen doing it since I'm twenty ten,
so this is my thirteenth year.What was it that got you into investigating
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the paranormal? Joe? So,unlike most paranormal investigators, Rob, they
typically have had some type of aparanormal experience that peaked their interest to look
further into the phenomenon. For me, it was a little different. It
was actually the introductions of the ghosthunting shows in the early to mid two
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thousands that got me peaked. Iwas more curious as to whether it was
just put on for entertainment purposes only, and what did you find there?
Well, a few things. Itis absolutely real, paranormal experiences can definitely
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happen. But I also feel asthough the television shows tend to overdramatize things,
and you know, possibly you know, dare I even say, maybe
fabric fabricate some evidence. Can yougive us some examples of that, Joe,
Well, well, speaking for myself, Rob, you know, when
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you paranormal investigate a location, youcan be there, you know, hours,
possibly days and not get a singleshred of evidence. And in order
to have a television show, aweekly television show and to have reels of
evidence, I just don't think it'spossible from my experience. Now, when
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you go and do a paranormal investigation, Joe, do you go by yourself
or do you go with the team? I never go by myself. I
will at least go with one otherperson, but primarily I do go with
my team. Now, where aresome of the places that you've gone to
do paranormal investigations with you and yourteam? So we're based out of New
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England. We're very lucky that we'rerich in a lot of history. We're
just outside of Boston. There's alsoSalem, Massachusetts. You know where the
witch trials were. So we've donea bulk of different locations in Salem,
including home residential cases. We havedone the ever so famous Lizzie Borden House.
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We have done local spots that maybesome of the audience wouldn't know but
are actually very big in the paranormalcommunity. A few places off the top
of my head is the Escape ParisMansion and Gardner, Mass It's been in
quite a number of different TV showsthroughout the years, along with the Houghton
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Mansion in North Adams, mass.And another popular spot which has gained some
traction is the Usssalem, which isa naval battleship docked outside of Quincy,
mass. So those are some ofthe more local ones. We've also traveled
throughout the country and done a lotvarious prisons, various asylums, things like
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that. I noticed on the informationthat you sent US, so that you've
also done investigations at the Waverly Hills, the Ohio State Reformatory, Eastern State
Penitentiary, Penhurst Asylum, Rolling HillsAsylum, and the Shane Lee Hotel.
I've got to ask you. Thesehave been featured on many, many tele
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television shows. Why do the ghostsor the spirits remain there? Do they
enjoy being on TV? Really reallygood question. I'm not sure whether they
enjoy being on TV or not,but I think they enjoy the fact that
a lot of people are going tothose locations specifically to elicit communication with them.
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Okay, now, when you wereat let's say, Waverley Hills,
what kind of paranormal activity did youand your team encounter? So you picked
a really, really great one.Waverly Hills is definitely probably in the easily
the top three of locations that we'vegone to that have really had wonderful evidence,
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so to speak. So the bulkerof our evidence is audio. There's
a phenomenon called EVE, which standsfor Electronic Voice phenomenon, and that's essentially
you're recording a conversation with a recorder. Can be digital, can be analog,
could even be a cell phone andyou're asking questions in the hope of
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getting a response, and when youreceive the response, it's not audible to
the human ears, but the devicesactually can pick it up. So Waverly
was really really wonderful as far asgetting a lot of electronic voice phenomenon.
We were getting direct answers to someof our questions. Another very rare phenomenon
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that actually took place at Waverley iscalled a disembodied voice. So that's when
you hear a voice that your nakedear is picking it up. It's so
you're not relying on the equipment.It's very very rare. It's probably only
happened a handful of times to usand to myself. Waverly was actually one
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of those locations where we actually caughta disembodied voice, and it just so
happened to be right in front ofthe Death Tunnel affectionately known and Waverly is
the death Tunnel, because that wasthe shoot where they would transport the bodies
after you know, patient's circumbed toyou know, TV or or whatnot.
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Well, how is it possible thatyou do not hear when you're doing an
EVP, you do not hear theresponse to your questions or however you and
your team do it, and yetit registers on a digital or analog recording
device. Rob, I'll tell you, if I had that answer for you,
I could unlock a big secret.Nobody really knows. Nobody knows how
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they imprint their voice. They youknow, they don't you know the theories
that it's coming through the field,the electromagnitic frequency field. The thing that
kind of gets me a little bitis the fact that how are they hearing
me when I ask a question?You know, are they on the other
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side with a particular device that theyusing to hear me? Good question.
Mind you, mediums and other psychicscan communicate with the other side without the
use of any any equipment, Sohow come investigating the paranormal as an EVP
requires the equipment instead of the directcontact that mediums and psychics have. So
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for our team, we don't haveany mediums with psychics on the team,
nor are we scientists, but weare professional and we rely on equipment.
So we want to be more scientificbased. Like I said, even though
none of us are scientists, wejust want to rely mainly on equipment because
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it's you know, if you getsomething on equipment, it's there, it's
in black and white, we canshare it. So during your investigations,
first of all, if somebody wasto call you up and say, Joe,
I heard you on the x zonon Classic twelve twenty how and I
think I've got a ghost in myhouse, Joe, can you come down
and visit us? And these peopleare in the area with that you actually
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live in, and let's say inMassachusetts, somewhere near Boston, how would
you conduct the investigation. Well,first off, Rob, we would do
a thorough vetting of the client firstand foremost, because just throughout the years,
we've realized that there's a lot,for lack of a better term,
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there's a lot of mental illness andpotential under the influence of alcohol or prescription
drug use, and people seem tothink that they might be having some type
of paranormal activity when in you know, reality, it's it's probably induced by
again mental illness or you know,potential drug or alcohol use. So we
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would do it thorough vetting of theclient just to kind of rule that out
before we would even invest any ofour time in visiting the location. And
you know, we definitely don't wantto put ourselves in harms way either.
And through the through the course ofthe years, we've you know, we've
kind of wasted a lot of cyclesjust with claims that were kind of nonsense.
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But but after the vetting process,we would typically what we would do
is we would do a like awalk through first of the location with the
homeowners there, get their stories,get the so called hotspots of where they
might have seen something or heard something. We would take notes. We would
sweep the home again for those EMFfields that I spoke to you a little
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a little bit earlier about. Thoseare fields of electromagnetic frequency that are generated
by large appliances, faulty wiring,things like that. We would do a
base sweep of the location because wewant to make sure that when we are
eventually there to paranormal investigate in ourequipment that's designed to pick up EMF as
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going off, that we know thatit's not the refrigerator on the other side
of the wall, or you know, a washer or a dry or anything
like that. So that that wouldbe why we would do the walk through,
and then we would schedule the homeinvestigation at a different point in time
at that point, we would kindof prefer that the homeowners aren't in the
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house, but if they insist onbeing, they we would obviously welcome them
as well, and we would typicallyspend you know, anywhere between four in
six hours in the location see ifwe can document any evidence and collaborate some
of the some of the claims ofthe paranormal activity for the homeowners. Okay,
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now you're taking you're accumulating all thisdata through your investigation. How long
does it take you to go throughthe data, go through the EVPs,
go through any video files that you'vecollected, to come to your conclusion as
to whether or not there is ahaunting there or if it is just something
else that has nothing to do withthe paranormal It's actually a great question,
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Rob. So basically, for everyrecorder you have running, and for every
camera you have running, you needto sit and review audio and video for
each one of those cameras. Soit's a painstaking process. It's a painstaking
process. So on the average,what are we looking at an extra fifteen
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to twenty hours worth of work easily? Wow? Yeah, And how many
investigations do you do? Do youdo a year? Joe with your your
team. So the it's quieted downa lot. There was a so we
used to have a one eight hundrednumber, and back in the day,
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probably in the mid mid two thousands, we would probably take at least three
to four phone calls a week onthat one eight hundred line. And then
but that was also kind of likethe height of the paranormal television shows and
things like that, So I thinkpeople kind of maybe thought they might add
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something going on, and they realizedteams are out, they had to investigate.
Hey, Joe, I hate todo this, but I've got to
take a break. Please stand byex oonation. Our guest this hour is
Joe rain One. His website isParanormalnew England dot com. And we'll be
back on the other side of thisbreak as we continue here in the X
on Your Hometown Radio Classic twelve twentywww dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
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Welcome back to the X ON andI'm Rob Oconnell. We're coming to you
from our broadcast entering studios in St. Catherines, Ontario, on your Hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty www dot Classictwelve. Joe rain Win is our special
guest Paranormal New England. Sorry ParanormalNew England dot com. Joel, thanks
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for joining us tonight. And Ihave to ask you this, Joe,
has there ever been an investigation thatyou've done that you had the bejeeber scared
out of you. I'm gonna answeryou totally honestly. No, never,
not once. I don't think I'dbe doing this if I got easily rattled.
So has there any been anything thatyou've seen or heard during an investigation
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that that makes you believe that theparanormal is very real? Yeah? So
again, a lot of the audioevidence we've gotten throughout the years, we've
gotten direct responses to questions as faras you know, who's still residing in
the location, And we've gotten incertain cases for us and last names that
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we could actually go back and lookthrough like some type of an archive and
actually find that there was such aperson that did exist in that spot.
So the audio stuff is very realand it's very informative. The visual piece
is a lot hotter to capture anddocument for whatever reason. I just don't
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know whether they don't have enough energyto manifest I have. I can say
that I have never seen an apparitionin my you know, thirteen plus years
now of doing this, I thinkthe closest thing I've seen is what is
termed a shadow figure. I sawthat at a local, very very popular
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location here in New England, whichis the Conjuring House in Barisville, Rhode
Island that spawned that whole Conjuring Housemovie series. So that was one of
the real tangible things that I cansay I've seen with my own eyes was
a shadow figure, and it washumanoid and form. It didn't have any
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particular features that I could say,well, it was a male or it
was a female, but I couldsee you tosso limbs head and it was
just like a gray mass that movedrather quickly. So that was one of
the more profound things I have seenin my experience. So when you're out
on these investigations, have you everbeen scratched, Have you ever been pushed?
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Have you ever felt any physical evidenceof the ghost or the spirit?
I have ever been scratched. Ihave seen scratches appear on teammates as we've
investigated, just out of nowhere,So I can't speak to the phenomenon myself.
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I have been nudged near some staircasesI guess we'll go back to to
Waverly. That that phenomenon did happento me at Waverley. It felt like
a you know, a hand justkind of gave me a little nudge when
I was near an open staircase.Fortunately it wasn't hot enough that I,
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you know, ended up going down. It another experience that I've had rob
that I never experienced before. AndI always heard of people saying, oh,
well, you know, Joe,you've gotten that cobweb feeling, haven't
you, And you know, myhonest answer was like, no, I
I haven't, and they're like,oh, well you'll you'll know when you
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get it. And that recently happenedto me, probably this past fall.
I was at a local spot inWeymouth, Massachusetts called the Emory Estate.
It's a it's an estate that wasgiven back to the town of Weymouth and
the town decided that they would openedthe house up as a museum and then
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the staff that was there was havingparanormal experiences, and they actually decided to
create a volunteer staff to lead folkson public ghost hunts there. So I
volunteered for them. I'm one ofthe staff there and It was actually a
night after one of the public ghosthunts. All of the guests had left.
I had walked upstairs to turn offsome of the lights, and I
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walked through a doorframe of one ofthe bedrooms that mind you, I've walked
in and out of that doorframe probablya good half a dozen times, just
that night alone, and I gotthe sensation that I just walked right through
this big cobweb. And I knewthat there's no way Spider could have spun
a big cob web like that sincethe last time I was up in that
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area of the house. So Ijust buy pure fate. I happened to
have my recorder on me. Ihit the record button, I started asking
some questions who was up here withme? And I probably got one of
the clearest EVPs I've ever captured inmy career. I got a male voice
saying the name Brandon, and hedid it in an Irish brogue, which
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really completely blew me away. Soit came out like Brandon please. So
those are some of the more physicalthings that I can speak to, you
know, because I've experienced it.As far as me experienced a scratch,
I can't say one way or another, how that feels in your opinion?
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Why are these spirits? Why arethese ghosts staying behind? Why don't they
go to the light? Why don'tthey go to the next dimension or wherever
ghosts go when they decided to leavehome. I think some and this is
personal, you know, you askedme for my personal because none of this
is proven yet. But I justthink some are trapped in like some type
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of a go between realm between now, between Earth and you know, if
you want to say heaven, whythey are trapped or maybe not trapped but
want to stay here. I meanI would go probably with you know,
maybe they just loved the place thatthey're in. I mean, speaking for
the Emery estate, I could saythat because it's a beautiful house, it's
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a beautiful grounds. I could kindof understand why a spirit might want to
hang there. When you start talkingabout some of the more darker locations,
like the Waiverleies and like the prisonsand things like that, I'm not exactly
sure why the lack of a betterterm, a soul or a spirit would
still want to stay there. Myonly guess is that I think they're just
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trapped there for whatever reason. Whyis it some people have the ability to
have an experience with the paranormal andother people don't. You know. Yeah,
I've known groups that go in twentythirty people, maybe five or six
people will have an actual experience andthe other people say, well, we
felt nothing, we saw nothing,absolutely zip. Yeah, It's it's very
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common. I just think certain peopleare more open to it, maybe maybe
mentally other people. You know,if you're a die hard skeptic, something
maybe going on that you're not You'renot even aware of it. You're not
even going to put it into thefact that it might be something paranormal.
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Speaking again to some of those publicghost hunts that I've been privy to and
have led, you know, there'sdynamics in groups. So you could take
a group of four or five peopleagain, I'll use the Emory state as
a prime example. You could takethem through that house rum by rum,
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just with your equipment, using youraudio, using your video, and some
groups, for whatever reason, wedon't get anything, We don't get any
e VP, we don't get anyequipment. Going off later in the night,
you take a different group up there, and it's like a different house,
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you know, and I can onlysurmise that it has something to do
with the personalities of the people there. There's some thought within the scientific community
that the paranormal events that are reportedduring a tour or a or a ghost
hunter are actually perpetrated by members ofthe group itself and are manifested that way.
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What's your opinion on that. I'veheard the same. I think it's
going to go back to the statementI just I just said. I think
it has something to do with justthe people being more open to experiencing something.
They're more believable. I'm sorry,Rob, The people are more believable.
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They want something to happen, sothey believe something is going to happen.
So is it possible that they're actuallycreating that something that they're looking for.
That's a good possibility. I wasthinking more along the lines that they
they they're believers now, whether theyhad paranormal experiences or not, they just
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believe in it. And for whateverreason, it's those more open minded groups
that definitely have more experiences. I'vejust noticed it time and time again.
You know, you got a people, a group of people that are that
are more skeptical and usually like I'llsay, like that group was kind of
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flat, like, meaning like wedidn't get anything with them, you know,
Okay, I can understand that.I guess I'm trying to quantify how
some people within a group can experiencethe paranormal and others can't. Do you
think that the people who go onthese or the majority of people that go
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on the ghost tours, for example, have seen television shows and their expectation
of something to happen is higher thanthe people who go there who may be
a little skeptical. I think that'sa safe statement. Yeah. Yeah.
When you and your team go outon an investigation, how many members are
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in your team? First of all, we currently have thirteen members in Paranormal
New England. Now do all ofyou go out at the same time to
the same location. It's very rarethat we'll have a full team out at
an investigation. It usually it usuallyaverages out to about six to seven people
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because again we're all professionals, allhave day jobs, it's a hobby for
us. We all have families,so not everybody can make every single investigation.
So out of thirteen, if weget called in to do something,
if we can get half the teamto show up, that's a good number.
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There are many people who believe thatobjects in museums haunted locations can be
possessed for a lack of better word, how do you and your group protect
yourselves from not bringing someone unwanted homewith you, I mean of the paranormal
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Well, I can answer this.I know in my thirteen years, as
far as I know, I've neverbrought anything home with me. I don't
think any of our any of myteammates have because I'm sure somebody would have
mentioned that to one of us.I know people that claim that they've been
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to very active locations and then thenext day, you know, like they
had cabinets in their home open andthings like that. They're credible people.
I believe them. I can onlyspeak for myself and my team, like
we've never had that type of experienceafter an investigation ex O Nation, I
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guess this hour is Joe not yet, not yet. Joe Rainwin is our
special guest and he is with excuseme, Paranormalnew England dot com. What's
the best way for people to contactyou if in fact they do want to
have your services to investigate what theybelieve to be a haunted location. Joe,
(27:48):
they can go right to that website. They can go right to Paranormal
New England dot com and we havea team email address, and we also
have a Facebook page that we monitordaily, so between the Facebook page and
the website, folks can definitely geta hold of us. All right,
Joe, standbye. We've got totake another break here and xtonation. This
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is the Xcelle. I'm Rob McConnelland we're coming to you on your hometown
radio here in Saint Catherine's Classic twelvetwenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
And if you'd like to send mean email, it's very simple.
X Zone at Classic twelve twenty dotCA. Joe and I return after this
break. Don't go away, excellNation. Joe raid One is our special
(29:25):
guest. Paranormal New England dot comis their website, and you're listening to
the X One with your Shirley,Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in studios
in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, onyour hometown radio Classic twelve twenty www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Joe, Well, I've spoken to a number
of paranormal investigators over the years,and some of them report feeling sick in
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the midst of an investigation or shortlybefore the investigation has reached its end.
Have you or any of your membersever had this experience? We have.
Yeah, I've felt a little nauseousprior to investigating in at certain points during
an investigation. I'm you know,I'm not exactly sure whether it was something
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just you know, physically induced,or whether it was something of paranormal in
nature, you know, to jokinglyenough, typically we do go out to
eat before we we do a case, so you know, I'm sure some
of that is probably fifty to fifty. You know. Here's a question,
and it's a direct question, Joe, does evil exist? I think it
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does. I think it does.And during your paranormal investigations, have you
ever seen any evidence that what you'redealing with is something evil, something demonic?
And so how do you handle that? I'm going to go on record,
I I don't believe in in demons, but I believe that there are
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evil spirits. I believe that ifyou were kind of not so great in
life, then why would that changein death? Uh, just to put
it mildly, I mean, likeI said, the worst that's probably ever
happened to myself or any of ourteammates. A few of my teammates,
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I did say, did get scratched, I did get pushed, mainly just
I've I've been called a lot ofderogatory terms via EVP Really yes, yes?
Why do you think they that they'duse derogatory words or curse and cuss
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you or your team? What dothey expect to accomplish with that? You
know? I don't know if ifthey just want to present themselves as like
a like, as like a badass or or or something to that degree,
or they want to portray themselves like, hey, like I'm I'm evil,
I'm a demon. My group,I can tell you right now,
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we go into any location, whetherit's a public hunt or or a private
home case, with the utmost respect. We don't provoke in any way,
shape or form. Widge is thereto hopefully get answers for ourselves, answers
for the clients, answers for thelocation. All I do is ask questions
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that I just hope I get,you know, some type of informational response.
And in the process of asking thesequestions, I've gotten some really really
nasty things said to me, Uh, why do why do why do you
guys call it a ghost hunt?Because usually when you go on a hunt,
(32:59):
h intend on capturing or killing something, and ghosts are already dead.
Yeah, I think, Yeah,I don't know. I don't know who
coined the term hunt, Rob,to be honest with you, but yeah,
you bring up a really good point, you know. So, Yeah,
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and I think it's easier to justsay we're going on a ghost hunt
rather than we're going on a paranormalinvestigation. It takes It's just ghost hunt
is shorter and it rolls off thetongue a little more smoothly. Okay,
what's your take on this booming paratourismindustry that is cropping up all over the
place. Well, if the moneyis going back into the location, I'm
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one hundred percent all for it.There are there are historic places that are
in need of dire repair. Andif the owners have said location are taking
the funds from these ghost hunts andtours and things like that and are putting
them back into the location to keepthe location open for future other paranormal investigators,
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I'm all for it. You know, some folks, you know,
I think it is a little itmight be a little bit of a cash
grab for them. Because you know, you go to the same place that
you know it needed a roof fiveyears ago, and you go out there
five years later and it still needsa roof. You kind of have to
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scratch ahead and question that I wouldimagine. So, but if a place
is repaired, isn't there the possibilitythat the repairs will actually affect the paranormal
activity within it? Yes? Yes, And And to answer that question in
another way, when we do geta the potential residential case that comes in,
(35:04):
like one of the very first questionswe ask is has there been a
recent remodeling done to the property?And more than half the time the answer
is yes. So I think aremodel would definitely stir up the paranormal activity
in the location. But is itpossible that it may also quiet or cancel
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the paranormal activity in that location sincewhatever may be causing the spirits or the
entities to remain there, For example, a I don't know, a clock
or an old stool, whatever,if that is removed, or there's a
(35:52):
wall that has to be removed andthat wall was the center of focal point
of the paranormal activity. Isn't itpossible that by removing that or repairing it,
it may in fact cancel the paranormalactivity within that property. Well,
I would say anything's possible, youknow, and and and especially if more
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so taking something out of a outof a location. I mean, the
spirit just could have been attached to, like you said, like a grandfather
clock, say, and then thatclock gets taken out of the location for
whatever reason. And I think thathas a lot to do with like when
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folks go to these antique places andthey buy these antiques. These antiques clearly
came from some location, and nowthis clock is in somebody's home, So
I guess that could take the spiritout of that original location. And now
you have a person that is callingus because all of a sudden they're having
(37:00):
paranormal experiences in their home and theydon't know why. So I could see
that that point is very very validthat if an object or something is taken
out of a location, that itcould quiet or quell the location. Does
ones religious philosophy have an effect onthe paranormal activity? So, I mean,
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I'm a Roman Catholic. We don'tget into any type of religion when
we're questioning potential home case whatsoever.I mean, sometimes it just happens to
come out in the conversation, butwe don't particularly base our findings on any
type of religion. Does holy waterwork? I think holy water works if
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you want it to work. Haveyou ever had the need to call in
members of the clergy to clear orhelp you investigate a house that may show
signs of demonic possession? Well,I'm gonna go on a limb again,
and this is just my personal beliefthat I do not believe there's anything demonic
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out there, but in order tomake a homeowner feel more at ease,
yes, we have involved local clergyto come out to the house and bless
the house. I personally think itwas more of a placebo right to help
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the homeowner than anything else where.Do you see a paranormal investigating in five
years from now? Oh? Neverthought about that. You know, well,
I'll tell you Rob. In mythirteen years, not much has changed.
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The technology as far as recorders andcameras has obviously gotten better. I
mean when I started back ten yearsago, everything was on a digital video
tape, and now everything go rightto an s D card. I would
imagine that we'll probably see some moregadgets invented. And I just feel as
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though the quality of cameras in audiois going to be that much greater in
five years, and for that matter, that much smaller, which helps us
out because now you know, ifyou can limit your gear cases to smaller
equipment, you know, you're justbetter off in general. What about these
voice boxes that are being sold,do they work? Yeah? So in
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my opinion, I would say thatI think you're referring to a ghost box
or a sparrot box, right,Yeah. So I will say that when
I initially started my journey in parallelinvestigating, I did not believe in ghost
boxes or sparrout boxes. I havechanged my stance on that after being out
(40:08):
with different teams and seeing some ofthe results they have gotten with these particular
devices, I feel as though thereis definitely something to them. And I'll
also kind of based out on thefact that we've gotten direct responses via that
that particular that's called ITC. Whenyou use a ghost box or a SPA
(40:32):
up box, that's called instrumental transcommunication. By the way, for the audience,
And again I'll go back to somederogatory statements. I have heard some
very derogatory things via a ghost boxspaut box, and that's something that I
know. The FCC would never ina bazillion years allowed to go on public
(40:58):
airwaves. That is so true,either would Classic twelve twenty. I was
gonna mention that have you ever hadan encounter that or an investigation that involves
children? Yes, yes, Ihave does how does the investigation of a
child in the paranormal effect you andyour team? And I've got about a
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minute before I have to go formy break. It's it's very disheartening when
you hear the voice of a child. I'm a parent, I have two
children. Most of the members onthe team have kids, so it's disheartening
when during an EVP session you heara child calling for its mother and you
hear babies crying. Yeah, Iimagine it would be because I'm you know,
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Laura and I have six children.We have fifteen grandchildren, two great
grandchildren, so that would be very, very taxing. I'm sure on any
parent. You and I have totake our final break for this hour.
Joe, please stand by and explanation. I guess this hours Joan rain One
His website is Paranormal New England dotcom. I also have a Facebook page
(42:07):
which is Facebook dot com forward slashParanormal New England. They have a YouTube
channel and all you need to dois go to YouTube and type in Paranormal
New England and their videos will allpop up all over the place. This
is the Next Zone. I amRob McConnell and we're coming to you from
our broadcast center in studios in SaintCatharines, Ontario, Canada, and we're
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on your hometown Radio Classic twelve twentyat www dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA
(43:01):
ex ex shoe last twenty and welcomeback every one. This is the X
(43:51):
On with your SHIRLI Rob McConnell onyour tone, your hometown Radio twelve twenty
and uh some great shows on twelvetwenty. Join Stephen danny Z first thing
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(44:15):
course the X Zone with Here's Truli. Rob McConnell. Moddy through Friday,
at eleven PM right here on Classictwelve twenty www dot Classic twelve twenty dot
CA, and you can always sendme an email to xone at Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. Joe Rainone isour special guest and Joe the Paranormal New
(44:36):
England group. What has been youryour number one investigation that you and your
team believe that this is the investigationof all investigations. We did an investigation
of trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum and theamount of activity in that location was,
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for lack of a better term,off the paranormal chart from the second we
walked through those doors till the secondwe left. You want to talk about
electronic voice phenomenon, You know,it's it's very you know, you go
into a location and if you comeout of that location with one really good
(45:29):
clear EVP like you would consider that, you know, a very good night.
Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum. Just aboutevery single time we hit a record
button on a recorder, we hadan EVP. Wow. Yeah. Now
do all the teams that go thereget EVPs? And are they always the
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same EVPs or are they different EVPs? So interestingly enough, when we were
at trans Alleghany. Our guide forthe night basically said that, you know,
the last night's group that came throughhere, it was very quiet here.
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We didn't get they didn't get muchof anything. And then you know,
we show up there the following nightand like I said, the place
was like off the hook paranormally speaking. So that's that's a real you know,
that's a real hit or miss typething when you when you when you
book a book a location. Uh. The interesting piece to this is we
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were in a certain room in transAllegheny and the tour guide was telling us
the story how one of the patientskilled another patient by hanging them and stabbing
them. And the girl was like, yeah, and the last time I
(47:04):
was here, I got this EVPsaying I'm a monster. And we had
our recorder running while she was tellingus the story of the murder and of
her EVP, and during our recordingwe got the same exact EVP that she
got. We got a voice sayingI'm a monster. What about the other
(47:30):
parts of the paranormal investigation where thereis articles that move and people actually get
the impression that they're being watched andthat there's cold spots hotspots. Do you
guys also encounter experience all those othersigns and symptoms of a paranormal activity when
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you're out there. Yeah, soit's rare to get something as far as
like a poltergeist activity where something moves, but that has definitely happened to us.
That happened to us in Gettysburg.We were investigating an old farmhouse that
served as a Confederate hospital and weactually had one of our glow sticks that
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was down on one of the tablesin the basement actually kind of on command,
shoot off the table. Didn't didn'tdidn't didn't roll off, didn't fall
off. It was like it wenttwo to three feet right across the room.
And that was just something that probablyabout ten to fifteen minutes prior to
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that, I had just asked,hey, you know, if there's any
spirits down here of any of anyCivil War soldiers, you know, can
you knock that glow stick off thetable? And it happened, and to
our dismay, and it was oneof those things we just didn't have a
camera on it, we didn't havea recorder running to document it. And
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you know, I just looked ateverybody and said, you know what,
even if we did have a cameraon it, nobody was gonna believe us.
They're going to think somebody tugged thatwith a with a fishing line or
something like that. But why wouldthey think that? Is there that much
deception? And despite within the paranormalgroups, yeah, there is. I
think there's a lot of evidence fabricationgoing on, and I think the whole
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YouTube generation kind of kind of nudgethat along a little bit more because nobody's
gonna want to watch a video unlesssomething happens, you know, and again,
not everything, not everything happens.And we've been to locations, We've
been to specific locations like again likethe ESK Paris mansion and Gardner Mass.
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I've lost track at how many timesI've investigated that particular location and we'll go
in there, we'll spend our sixtyeight to ten hours there and nothing could
happen the whole night, and thevery next trip in there, it's like
a different house. So you justcan't bank on paranormal activity happening, even
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in a location that has had itprior. So if you're a YouTube creator
and you're banking on people watching yourvideo, you know, I wouldn't be
surprised that they're they're doing something asfar as fabricating evidence. Let's go back
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a couple of minutes, because wewere talking about this paranormal place that you
went, and you've got this EVP, the same EVP that another young lady
got about. Yes, okay,where the person said, I am a
monster? Does the paranormal activity haveanything to do with the weather, the
(51:01):
phase of the moon, the electromagneticarea where the paranormal location is lay lines?
So at one point in time,we had a prior member who was
an actual scientist and he was anumber cruncher. So when we got a
(51:27):
call to do something, he documentedeverything you just mentioned in more, humidity,
barometer, temperature, phase of themoon, you name it. The
one correlation he could make was thatlay Lines definitely had something to do with
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it. I wish I could getinto it further, Rob, but I'm
just not qualified. Why do peopleseek the paranormal? Why do people look
for spirits? Why do people lookfor ghosts? All these years and like
you yourself said, nothing has changed, so why continue? Yeah, you
(52:15):
have to have a passion for it, because again, more often than not,
nothing happens truth be told and again, you know, you go to
a spot and if you come outof there with one EVP, it was
a good night. But it's justlike I just I kind of simulate it
(52:37):
to like my golf game. Youknow, I'm a terrible golfer, and
I'll lose balls, I'll shank andi'll hook, and but I'll remember that
drive that I was dead center inthe fairway. Like I'll come home talking
about that, you know. Sothat's what keeps me going. You know.
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Personally, I think a lot ofpeople just have questions because they've had
their own paranormal experiences and they wantto know why that happened or how that
happened and is that going to happenagain? And I think that fuels it
for certain people as well. Let'ssay that tomorrow and night, there's a
(53:20):
news conference and the members of thescientific community are able to prove beyond a
shadow of a doubt that is theperson the group who are actually creating the
paranormal event, and that there isnothing paranormal about it. What do you
think what happened to the paranormal groups. I honestly don't think anything would change.
(53:45):
I really don't think I think Groopswould still go out and do it,
you know, I mean, Iso you're basically saying that it's related
to the personalities and the groups that'scausing the phenomenon. I'm just saying that
(54:05):
this would be something that the scientificcommunity would come up with and say,
listen, there's no such thing asthe paranormal. Here's our proof. Boom.
Oh. You know, it's justlike trying to convince a skeptic.
I think, you know, Ibelieve in it now. I've been doing
it long enough. I know theparanormal is real. I know it's not
(54:27):
what it's portrayed on television. Atthis point in time, I don't think
it would change anything for me,because, I mean, science has been
proven wrong in the past. Sowhat was it that turned you from a
non believer into the hardcore believer thatyou are today. It's the phenomenon of
(54:49):
electronic voice phenomenon. And when Iwent out, when I started doing this,
I probably went a solid six monthswrote ever capturing an EVP, and
I was at the point where,like, I don't think that the phenomenon
is true. I think it's fake. I think it's just not possible.
(55:13):
How come, I haven't gotten anything. And then it happened. I got
my very first EVP. It wasa home case in Weymouth, mass We
were out in the woods backyard ofthis home where the lady was like,
I'm hearing kids laughing and giggling andrunning through my house. I don't have
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kids. I caught my very firstEVP of a child basically calling my name.
Now that sold it for me,right there. Listen, Joe,
it's a time where we must sayso long for tonight, but do me
a favorite. Let our listeners knowhow they can contact you and give the
(55:57):
give your website and your Facebook pageout. Yeah, so if anybody wants
to get a hold of us,we're www dot paranorm Paranormalnew England dot com.
All the links to any of oursocial media is out there. We
do have a Facebook page, wedo have a YouTube channel, and I
would say go to the website pageand get our links from there. Joe,
(56:22):
thanks very much for joining us,and I look forward to the next
time you and I meet right hereback in the X Zone on Classic twelve
twenty. Thank you for having me. Ron. You have a nice night,
sir, you sir, all right, exponation. Tell me, are
you a skeptic or a believer?Send me your emails X Zone at xxone
right, No, no, that'sthe old one. I'm sorry, scratch
track erase. Send me your emailX Zone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
(56:49):
That's class X Zone at Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. I'll be back
tomorrow night at eleven o'clock is onceagain we cross the time space continuum to
this place that I call the XZone. It's a place for people dear
to believe and dear to be heard. It's a place where the fact is
fiction, had fiction is reality.And tomorrow night I'll take some cough medicine.
(57:10):
How's that, Craig? All right, to my senior producer, my
good friend, Craig West. ThanksCraig for all your hard work, and
to each and every one of youtonight, the listening audience of Classic twelve
twenty, have a great time,enjoy your life, share with one another,
take care of one another, andalways remember, keep your eyes to
the sky and your heart to thelight. I'm Rob McConnell. This is
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the Xzone, and you're listening tous on your hometown radio, Classic twelve
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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