January 28, 2024 • 57 mins
Paul Dale Roberts is a renowned paranormal investigator whose unwavering passion for uncovering the mysteries of the supernatural realm is matched only by his remarkable expertise and years of experience. With a trailblazing career spanning decades, Paul has elevated the field of paranormal research to new heights, making him a respected authority in his field. Armed with a profound curiosity and an insatiable thirst for knowledge, he fearlessly ventures into the unknown, unearthing truths that transcend the boundaries of the physical world. Paul's affiliation with Halo, a leading organization dedicated to exploring the paranormal, has allowed him to combine his keen investigative skills with cutting-edge technology, creating a formidable force in the pursuit of the unexplained. Through his meticulous research, spirited demeanor, and genuine empathy towards those affected by the supernatural, Paul embodies a true pioneer in the realm of paranormal investigation. His unwavering determination and dedication have not only revealed invaluable insights into the world of ghosts, aliens, and other mysterious phenomena but have also served as an inspiration to countless aspiring paranormal investigators worldwide.
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Oh, Henry, Welcome to theX Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality. Nowhere's your host, Rob occonnell Homer,
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in all my life. These peoplelook deep within my soul and assigned me
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a number based on the order inwhich I joined to in that thing,
bringing that to a million pies.Blag you always do. And welcome to
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the xone everyone. I am RobMcConnell, and we're coming to you from
our broadcast center in studios in SaintCatherines, Ontario, on the Xzone Broadcast
network, and from the studios ofClassic twelve twenty, your hometown radio here
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twenty xon event Classic twelve twenty dotCA. Alrighty, getting ready for some
heavy snow here in Saint Catharines,Ontario tonight. I am told yesterday in
Quebec, where my dad lives,God blessing me. He's ninety five years
old. He woke up to thirtyseven and a half centimeters of snow.
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Wow, they got at in Quebec, and it's beginning to look a lot
like Christmas. There's no doubt aboutthat. Anyway, We're going to have
a great show this hour x ONation. My guest is Paul Dale Roberts,
and we've had the pleasure of havingPaul on the show. He's what
I would consider a regular over here. And Paul, welcome back to the
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x OWE my friend. Thanks verymuch for joining us. Thank you,
Rob. I love being here.I feel like I'm at home. Well
that's the way we like it.Please take your feet off the couch.
My wife doesn't like that. Okay. Hey, Paul. For our listeners
who may not have had the opportunityof listening to you before. As we
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keep on growing throughout the x ONation, tell us a little bit about
yourself and how you got involved inthe world of the paranormal and all the
weird things that you and I havetalked about over the years. Well,
I had a very strange journey there. Rob As a child, I lived
on a haunted house. All typesof things were happening to me. So
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as I got older, I wantedto know if those were childhood nightmares or
was that really something paranormal that washappening to me, And to this very
day, I believe it was verymuch the paranormal. As I grew older,
I joined the Army. I becamean investigator, but it was an
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investigator, not of the paranormal,but of narcotics. I was an MP
working undercover with the Drug Suppression TeamCID Criminal Investigation Division in Germany, and
we were after things like the Khakimafia, people who were distributing drugs and
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testifying an article thirty twos in courtmartials. So that's where my investigative skills
came in. And then in nineteenseventy I realisted in the Army and I
always wanted to know if military intelligenceknew anything about UFOs, and I became
a ninety seven Bravo and military intelligencewith a photo interpretation center in Korea,
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and I did learn that military intelligencedid indeed know something about UFOs. Even
though that project Bluebook closed down innineteen sixty nine, the military was still
investigating UFOs or UAPs, whatever youwant to call him now. And then
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in my lifetime I did some bountyhunter work on my own. I did
private investigations with Silhouette Enterprises, whichwas my own company, and I wasn't
very successful with that. But thenhere comes along this one paranormal investigator said,
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Paul, you write a lot.You know, at the time I
was working with the comic book industryof writing stories and everything else, and
she said, well, Yota,join us on a paranormal adventure in I
own California at the Jackson Hotel,which is very haunted, and write a
story about it. So I did, and it was published in two British
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magazines. The owner of the timeof Halo Paranormal Investigations really was excited that
the story was published, and shewanted me to be the ghost writer to
HPI Halo Paranormal Investigations. And atsome point in time she quit. She
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got more into music, and shedoes a vampire ball and all this sort
of stuff, and I became theowner and the president of Halo Paranormal Investigations
and that's how I became a paranormalinvestigator, Paul. Why are so many
bars, hotels, pubs, restaurants, and you know, places like that
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filled with so many paranormal stories andhauntings. Well, especially the old ones
back in wild Wall West. Yougo to night clubs now and you hear
stories about people getting into bar fights, people actually getting killed at bars.
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They have gun violence and everything else. So, like the Jackson Hotel was
a hotel back in eighteen hundreds,and some of the gold miners stayed in
that hotel. Prostitutes stayed in thathotel. There was jealousy involved. There
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was a couple prostitutes that were killedin that hotel. There was a cowboy
who stayed in one of the roomsand he committed suicide by jumping on the
window. So because of the tragediesthat happened in the past, makes those
places haunted. I see. Well, you know, when you look at
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all the tragedies that have happened throughoutthe American history as well as the Canadian
history, and doubtlessly other places aroundthe world, you would think that this
planet should be just filled with ghosts, spirits, hauntings to a point where
no one could actually deny them.I met parapsychologist Lloyd Adbach. Yeah,
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we had Lloyd on the show lastweek. Oh was he? Oh my
gosh. Okay, Well, ifyou ever have them on the showtime,
I said, hi, I will. We actually did a little convention together
a long time ago in San Jose. Lloyd. One of the things that
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he said was that the whole planetis haunted because people died everywhere, and
that I have a tendency to believethat the whole planet is haunted. I
mean, I have a very psychicmedium on our team Wishfire, and she
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sees ghosts everywhere. We could bewalking down the street and she is,
oh my god, there's something here. And she's proven herself many times over
and over and over again that sheis a true psychic. When she says
she sees something, I can goto that location and probably get an EVP
or some kind of intelligent movement inmy photograph of an entity. So yeah,
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she's proven herself many times over.In the whole world I believe is
haunted. Just like Lloyd said.My name is Rob McConnell. This is
the xone on your hometown Radio Classictwelve twenty, streaming worldwide on Classic twelve
twenty dot CAM. I guess thishour is Paul Dale Roberts, and we're
talking about the paranormal things that gobump in the night and much more.
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If you'd like to send me anemail talking about a guest that we've had,
or if you have had an experiencethat you'd like to share with us,
or maybe you're out there and you'vehad experiences that are unsettling and you
just do not know where to gowho to contact. There's no need for
that. Just send me an emailxxone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA and
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we'll certainly channel it to the appropriateperson that we feel could be the best
to help you out, including ourguest this hour, Paul Dale Roberts.
Paul, what are some of theinvestigations that you have worked on that you
think, in your opinion, notonly as a paranormal investigator, but as
a former law enforcement investigator, thatprove on the shadow of a doubt that
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the paranormal is real. Well,there was a case that I had in
Citrus Heights, and it was oneof my most spectacular cases because so much
things were happening. I had fifteenscouts, which are paranormal investigators in training.
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And I brought them to a homein Citrus Heights and I put five
in one room, five in anotherroom, five in another room. Well,
five in one room were practically fallingasleep because nothing was happening. Five
in another room, again they werepractically sleeping because nothing was happening. And
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then five in this other room.All kinds of things were happening. You
could hear a little girl talking andgiggling. And I went to the corner
of the bed and right in frontof me, no more than maybe two
feet, I said, there's alittle girl sitting at the corner of this
bed, because that's where sounds comefrom, right And I put my head
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down and I said hello, andshe says hello. I said, holy
I'm not you know what. AndI said, okay, that's it.
I'm going to bring everybody into thisroom. We're going to conduct a seance.
And we did, and the wallssounded like they were ripping apart.
It sounded like something out of Hell. Razors Cinabytes, the walls are ripping
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apart. There was pounding on thewalls and everything else, and all fifteen
trade scouts are running out the frontdoor. I said, no, no,
get back in here. I said, this is a breakthrough, come
on back. So we're all onfloor again. I'm doing this seance.
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We had three walking talkies on thesame channel, and a voice came on
one of the walkie talking. There'sa man's voice, and he goes,
get out, and again they're runningout the front door. Then the owner
comes up to me and says,Paul, I have to live here.
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Maybe we need to stop this.I said, yes, I understand,
I'll stop it. And she goes, you know what, You're welcome to
stay in this room all night.I said, that's fantastic. I said,
yeah, okay, So I senteverybody home. We set up a
camera and I'm sleeping on this bed, and what happens is I fall asleep
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and a woman's voice you can hear, say, Paul, Paul, Paul,
and then a man's voice which isjust mumbling blah blah blah, and
a child moaning at the foot ofthe bed and a little tapping on the
headboard. And guess what, RobI slept through it all. Oh my
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gosh. But at that point oftime, at that point in time,
I became a true believer of theparanormal. The paranormal exists, and I
witnessed it with fifteen other people.Paul, you and I have to go
to our first break. Please standby explanation. My guess this hour is
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Paul Dale Roberts. And if you'dlike to find out more about Paul,
it's very simple. Just go toyour Google and just put in the search
engine Paul Dale Roberts. Everything aboutthis gentleman will pop up and fascinating gentlemen,
great website, great stories. Butthe thing is he's credible. By
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the way, Paul, thank youfor your service, my friend. Oh
thank you so much, sir.Ron ex Oonation will be back on the
other side of this break as wecontinue here in the X Zone, coming
to you from our studios and broadcastcenter in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, on
your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty streamingaround the world Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
We'll be backed on away. Sofrom our home to yours, this
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is Laura Rogers wishing all the membersof the ex own nation a very merry
Christmas and a happy and joyful NewYear. Read love a lo Christmas,
Just like, are you know?Welcome back to the x OWE. I'm
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Rob McConnell. We're coming to youfrom our broadcast center in Studios in St.
Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, andyou're listening to us on your hometown
radio Classic twelve twenty streaming around theworld Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Paul
Dale Roberts is our guest, andPaul, you sent us a list of
some very interesting things that you wereinvolved with. I'd like to talk to
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you about your zodiac investigation first.Oh, yes, the San Francisco Zodiac.
There was an area in near Valaylecalled Lake Barriessa, and that's where
a couple they had a little picnic. They were laying off in the grass.
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They were getting kind of friendly witheach other, and off in the
distance they saw a man behind atree. And this man was dressed in
all black. He had an executioner'shoodie on and he had a symbol of
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the zodiac on his chest. Andthe guy's girlfriend says, look at that
guy over there, what's he doing. He's watching us And her boyfriend looks
over there and goes, oh,just ignore him. He's just being silly.
He's probably taking pictures of himself wearinga silly suit. Don't even worry
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about it. So they get backbeing friendly again. And the next time
she looks, now this figure iscloser to her. She's starting to get
little nervous. The guy says,just ignore him. She looks again and
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boom, he's right up on them. And before she knew it, and
he knew it, the boyfriend andthe girlfriend. He had the boyfriend tie
up the girl and then he tiedup the guy who was holding a gun
to them, and he went aheadand killed the girl by stabbing her.
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Yeah, and he stabbed the boyfriend, but he survived to tell the story.
So what we did was a ladywho practiced practices the Wickan culture.
She considers herself a witch, andshe calls herself Raven and she's psychic.
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She's a psychic medium. We wentto the location of that murder at Lake
Burry Ess and I tried to getsome evpis maybe I can pick up some
of that residual energy of that particularnight when the zodiac killed that girl.
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And what was to my amazement atthat location, A rock started glowing.
Wait wait a second, wait asecond, A rock started glowing. It
started to glow. It was Ihave no idea. I mean, it
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was just a piece of granite andit started to actually glow. And I
have video footage of that somewhere.I know it was posted on the internet,
but I had no explanation for it. But there was this one person
who studies and rock formations and stufflike that, and he says that sometimes
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rock can contain the energy of thesun and when it does that, it
can glow if it has some quartsin it, in which granted has some
quarts, so there could be alogical explanation. But at the time seeing
that rock glow really kind of blewme away. It was like, does
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that have any connection to the murderby the zodiac at that location? Sounds
like it could have been a signfrom the other side. Yes, yes,
that's kind of what I thought,you know, so, and I
put it to you know, Isent the video footage to some scientists and
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stuff, like the ones who studyrocks and stuff, and that's what they
were telling me, that certain rockscan contain the energy of the sun and
at night time it'll appear like it'sglowing. So I just wanted to see
if I could get an answer toit. Did you? Were you able
to get any EVPs while you werethere? No? No, I tried
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many times over no EVPs. Theonly thing I got that was I considered
paranormal was that glowing rock. That'sfascinating glowing rock. You also did an
investigation, I believe, on theRichard Trenton case, also known as the
Vampire of Sacramento. Oh gosh,that guy was a total monster rob.
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He was a type of guy beforehe was a serial killer. He was
killing little animals and he was torturinganimals. Oh god, Yeah, it
was terrible. And he would take, let's say, a bird and pop
its head off and then raise itup to his mouth and drink the blood.
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That's how sick this man was.There was like five houses up in
northern Sacramento which were the victims ofRichard Trenton chase. And one of the
houses he actually killed a baby,yes, and threw the baby into the
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trash can. And so what wedid, my investigators and I we went
to all the victim homes and conductedan outside investigation. And what was amazing
is all five homes at that timewere vacant, nobody wanted to live in
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them. Yeah, because of themurders and the one house in particular,
when the police asked him, whydid you go in this house and kill
four family members, and his answerwas they left the door open. So
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that tells me if they had lockedthe door, those murders probably would have
never happened. And also too,he was pulling surveillance on that house because
there's these little half walls made ofbrick or yeah, semen blocks near the
house, and he would hide behindthe block wall and watch those people.
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And at some point in time too, he would get excited and he would
defecate at that location. Well,it seems that you know, this guy
was certainly not playing with a fulldeck. No no, And we took
pictures inside that house from the outside, and what we got was the residual
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energy I believe of the victims becausewe got all these blurry images. We
took another picture, then there wassome clarity, and then we took another
picture and some more blurry images,and then we even got a picture of
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what looked like a vortex, likea swirling mist. So I believe there's
a that house is probably extremely onit. And we got all this photographic
evidence, and then we even gotan EVP which sounded like a woman screaming.
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What what would happen if these houseswere bulldozed and you know, they
were just demolished and a new housewas built on the same spot. Is
it possible that the new home,brand new home would be haunted or counter
paranormal experiences because of the tragedy,because of the whoror because of the horrific
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crime that happened at that place,that that brand new house would encounter hauntings
as well. Oh. Absolutely,We've actually had cases like that where something
was bulldozed, it was destroyed,a house that was there before was destroyed,
and that a new house was builtover it, and now that new
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house is haunted. So yeah,absolutely, So whatever happened to this bozo
who did all these horrific crimes,he committed suicide in prison, which is
probably a very good thing. Speakingabout prisons, I would imagine that there's
a lot of prisons throughout the UnitedStates and around the world that are totally
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haunted as well. You know,I have so many stories about prisons,
while prisons, hospitals haunted. Imean, like I did that TV show
called Haunted Hospital. Now, wewere talking prior to going on air about
that that you actually came up toToronto and did an episode of Haunted Hospitals.
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Right, yeah, yeah, andyeah, the hospitals are haunted prisons
because of all the murders, thesuicides and everything. Just like there's we
have a prison close to us herein Elk Grove, California called Folsom Prison
and Fulsome Prison is very haunted.There's stories from prisoners that are on the
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Internet talking about the haunting activities atthe prison. I have an uncle named
Mike Best and he was a correctionalofficer at Old Fulsome Prison and he said,
yes, he goes prisoners himself.Have seen apparitions of former inmates who
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died there, who were murdered there, who committed suicide. There was a
serial killer named thor something. Hewas a Swedish serial killer and he would
pick up hitchhikers and kill them.They have seen he died in prison.
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One of the inmates killed him andhe is seen walking the grounds of Fulsome
Prison. And they have a trailwhich is called Johnny Cash Trail. And
at the Johnny Cash Trail, someof the hikers have actually seen apparitions walk
in the trail, former inmates walkin the trail. I've got a good
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friend of mine. His name isLarry Lawson. In fact, he does
his own radio show called Paranormal Stakeout. He's a former police officer in Fellsmure
on Fellsmare, Florida, but priorto joining he started law enforcement off as
a sheriff's deputy in one of thelocal prisons and it was the events that
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happened within that prison that got himvery interested in the paranormal. And I've
heard, in fact, I've hadguests on the show who are former law
enforcement officers and they all have storiesto tell about the paranormal. Oh yeah,
now I have another cicer. Well, before we go to the next
part, we have to take anotherbreak. Paul. All right, Paul
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Dale Roberts is my guest x OWNation, And if you'd like to find
out more about Paul, just goon to your favorite search engine and type
in Paul Dale Roberts. It's thatsimple. I'm Rob McConnell and this is
the EXO Radio Show, coming toyou from our broadcast center at Studios in
Saint Catharines. Ontario, Canada,and you're listening to us on your hometown
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radio, Classic twelve twenty streaming rightaround the world on Classic twelve twenty dot
CA. Paul Dale Roberts and Ireturn on the other side of this breaks.
Whatever you do, don't go away, and if you do go away,
you've got about a minute to comeback. This is Rob McConnell wishing
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each and every one of you avery, very merry Christmas and a happy,
healthy, prosperous New Year. Fromour home to yours, love,
light and spirituality today and every dayfrom this day forward. Merry Christmas everyone.
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One dead midnight, the sun wasso bright, the moon had no
light. But I could see thisbig old sus what said he was top
nuts at playing hopscotch way up ona tree. So I bet my risk
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what that big old sus would neverplay hopscotch way up in a tree.
Now there's a sasquatch up in atree crutch. He's got my risk watch
and he's laughing at me. Itold the Mounties I loved this explanation.
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Welcome back everyone. That's stomp inTom Connor's Sasquatch song and you're listening to
us here in the X Zone fromour broadcast center in studios in St.
Catharines, Ontario, Canada, onClassic twelve twenty, streaming around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.Paul Dale Roberts is my guest, and
if you'd like to find out moreabout Paul, all you need to do
is Google him or go to bingor Edge or wherever and type in Paul
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Dale Roberts. Before I get backto Paul, i'd like to remind everyone
that the X Chronicles newspaper will beavailable for one and all on let me
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the X Zone Christmas Store at xx Zone. That's x M A S.
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No, what is it, Craig, you've changed it on me overnight
x zeno one x M A Sdot com. A lot of great Christmas
presents to you know, gauged towardsthe paranormal. Well that's a mouthful.
Thank you. My friend Paul DaleRoberts is with us, and uh,
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Paul, we were talking about lawenforcement officers and prison uh you know,
guards seeing a lot of paranormal activityand piquing their interest in it. What
are some of the stories that you'veheard about police officers and uh, you
know prison guards. Well, myex brother in law, Simon Mitchell,
was also too a creestionable officer,and he was a creational officer at Fulsom
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Prison and some other location. Andhe said that this one ghost of this
inmate who was killed in prison actuallyhaunts his other inmate who's still living in
his cell. And this inmate wouldstart screaming in the middle of the night
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and Simon Mitchell, the correction officer, would run over and why are you
screaming? He goes, there's aghost in my cell. It's that inmate
who was killed. And they wereactually when that inmate was alive, those
two inmates were always constantly fighting.In fact, he was actually contemplating killing
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that inmate. But now that inmatewho's now dead haunts his cell and wakes
him up in the middle of thenight, even scratched him a little bit.
So Simon Mitchell, my ex brotherin law, says, yeah,
he witnessed the paranormal just through thatstory. He didn't actually see it happen,
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but he heard the story and hebelieves that inmate because it would almost
happen every other night. Strange thingshappen all over the place. You know,
some of the stories that I've neverheard about boggle my imagination. I
have never heard. All Right,maybe are going to prove me wrong,
which I'm sure you will. Ihaven't heard of a haunted morgue or a
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haunted funeral parlor. Huh, that'sinteresting. My wife was actually going to
work at a morgue in Elk Grove, and the owner of that morgue said
that he has seen spirits at themorgue. They are not harmful. He
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would just see a glimpse of themwith his peripheral vision and they would just
kind of vanish. So I havenever investigated a morgue, so I wouldn't
have really any kind of expertise inthat. But according to that one owner,
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he says, yeah, his morguewas haunted by passing spirits. Could
you share it with us your experienceat the haunted hospital when you were doing
that TV show? Oh yeah,my son Jason, he went to the
hospital he had some type of bladderinfection and while he was there, you
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know, I'm in the waiting roomand I'm getting kind of bored and stuff
like that. I was talking tosome of the nurses and I said,
yeah, you know, is thishospital haunted. I'm a paranormal investigator.
They kind of chuckled and laughed,but they said, yeah, you know,
I've actually experienced a few things inthe hospice area really, so on
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my own kind of sneaking around,I had my recorder. I went to
the hospice section and I kind ofsat down and relaxed and stuff and see
if I see anything. And Iactually did. I saw this old man
and he had a walker and hewas just taking his time and he's kind
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of walking towards me. Well,I thought it was a real person.
And he walks into a wall.It's like, what the heck? And
I was eating some chips from abag and the bag of chips crumbled in
my hand. I said, holycow, this hospital is really really on
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it. And that was over inMidland, Odessa. So yeah, they
flew me over Toronto to tell mystory. And definitely, in my mind,
all hospitals are haunted because people diethere all the time. The last
time you were on the show withus, Paul, which wasn't that long
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ago, we talked about some ofthe naval ships that are haunted. Oh
yeah, like the USS Nimics.Yeah, yeah, yeah, the USS
Nimics very haunted. My ex brotherin law, Robert Mitchell, he served
on the USS Nimics and the serialkiller John Eric Armstrong was actually assigned to
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the USS Nimics. And John EricArmstrong, the serial killer. He killed
two people in Seattle and one ofthem was a trance and he killed five
prostitutes in Detroit and is believed thatwhen the uss nymates were stop at different
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ports, that he most likely killeda prostitute at every single port. So
you had that going on, andthey would actually see a woman ghost on
the USS Nemets and they believe thatwas probably one of the victims of John
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Eric Armstrong. And another thing withthe USS Nimets is that they had a
plane crash on the uss nmets andfourteen Navy personnel died, and the servicemen
on the USS Nimets they would seefaces appear on reflective service surfaces and those
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those faces that are on those reflectivesurfaces are the deceased Navy personnel who died
in that plane crash on the Ussnimetz. And then also too, on the
USSNIMETS you had that tic tech UFOoutside of San Diego, and USS NIMTS
is a target for UFO activity becauseit's an actual attack nuclear powered worship.
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So yeah, so that's what theUSS nemics ex oanation. Paul Dale Roberts
is our guest, and this isthe X Zone, and you're listening to
us right here on your hometown radioClassic twelve twenty and streaming around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.You sent us an information about Lawrence liverwhere
Livermore Labs in California. Now,isn't that one of the labs that does
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a lot of high tech research anddevelopment for NASA. Yes, and also
too, they do superpowered lasers.In fact, our governor, aren'td Scharseninger
wanted to invite some of his celebrityfriends to the Lawrence Livermore Labs to actually
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witness some of the super lasers thatthe lab had, and those super lasers
is an attraction for UAP activity UFOsand the reason why because it's high tech.
Lasers can be very dangerous, canprobably even shoot down a UAP a
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UFO, And so I would thinkthat extraterrestrials would have a strong interest in
the Lawrence Livermore Labs. The peoplewho live in Livermore, California say that
there's UFO activity there every single night. So HPI Halo Paranormal Investigations. My
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group we went to a camping areanear Lawrence Livermore Labs, and we can't
actually get into those labs because it'sall liked top secret and everything else.
So we stayed on the campsite andwe looked at the nice sky all night
long, and we did see somestarlight UAPs that moved erratically in the sky.
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So there was something like nine investigatorswith me, and about five of
them including myself, did witness somestrange activity in the sky. And the
UFOs were at a distance where theylooked like stars, but they didn't move
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like satellites, and they moved erratically. There was like one UAP actually moved
in a Z formation, and noconventional aircraft can move in a Z for
me quickly. But isn't it fairto say that no conventional aircraft that we
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know of or that has been publiclyannounced can do that. Is it possible
that there's top secret aircraft that canactually do that that the Air Force or
any other other military just hasn't disclosedyet because if they disclose it to the
public, they're going to disclose itto those countries that are not friendly to
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us. Right, absolutely wrong.Yeah, something like that could possibly be
one of our military secretive aircraft andit wouldn't be piloted by a human because
the g forces alone going at thathigher rate of speed doing a Z formation
would kill you. You would turninto jelly. So if anything, maybe
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it's a robotic type drone drone.Yeah, Yeah, that's moving at those
incredible spees in those uadical type behavior. All right, Paul, standbye.
We've got to take our final breakfor this hour and explanation. Our guest
this hour is Paul Dale Roberts.Just google him. All the information is
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there. Type in Paul Dale Roberts. This is the x oone. I
am Rob Mcondomb. We're coming toyou from our broadcast center in studios in
Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and
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a place where people dare to believeand dare to be heard. It's a
place where fact is fiction and fictionis reality. And the X one comes
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to Monday through Friday at eleven o'clock. Like I've been saying all night right
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dot CA. We'll be back onthe other side of this break, dunk
Away. He was hop nuts atplaying hop scott way up on a tree.
So I bet my risk what thatbig olds swatch would never play hopscotch
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way up in a tree. Nowthere's a sasquatch up in a tree crutch.
He's got my wrist watch and he'slaughing at me. Ship. I
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am evil Homer. I am EvilHomer. I am Evil Homer. I
am Evil Homer. Beat, beatup and battered around, beat saying up
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and up beat, shut down.You're the best thing that happened and reputation.
Jane City, some storm baby,Welcome back everyone. This is the
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excellent I'm Rob McConnell and we're comingto you from our broadcast center in studios
right here in the beautiful city,the Garden City of Ontario, Saint Catherine's
If you'd like to send me anemail X Zone at x owner. I'm
sorry, x Zone at Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. And why am chuckling
is because that little clip we played, it's called let me See where is
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it? Simpson's Homer Simpson Gilselmo.And you know, I can understand where
where Homer was coming from because oneyear, my dear wife Lura bought four
of our younger grandchildren Elmo dog dollsfor Christmas, not just the regular ones,
but the ones that talk. Andwhen you've got four little grandchildren who
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have a little Elmo going at thesame time saying different things, I can
understand why Homer wanted to do thatto Almo. I wanted to do that
to Almo, not to the grandchildren, just Almo. Oh, welcome back,
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Paul, and thank you. Ron. What do you think about Almo?
Any of your kids go crazy forhim? Yeah? You know.
I love the Simpsons, I mean, and what's so amazing about the Simpsons
is the fact that a lot oftheir episodes predicted the future. They predicted
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that Trump would become president, andthey did a bunch of other predictions and
they all came true, which iskind of amazing. Yeah, what do
you guys, how do you celebrateChristmas in Elk Grove, California? Do
you get you don't get snow?No, it don't get snow. It
gets cold though sometimes. All right, Paul, what do you consider cold
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seventeen degrees? Well, if you'relooking for sympathy, my friend, you're
on the wrong show. But wehave our Christmas tree up and everything else.
And I like to let my wifedo her own Christmas shopping at the
mall. She knows what she wantsand picks out, so yeah, I
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let her do her own thing.My wife does her shopping from our living
room on something called Amazon. Ohyeah, Oh, by the way,
that was not a plug for Amazon. So but you can find my books
on Amazon. That was a plugfor Amason. Yeah. You know,
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like every time I go to bringour little fur baby downstairs for a walk,
I have to pass by the mailarea and they've got these big tables
set up and they're usually just jampacked with packages from that company. I
mentioned a few places where your booksare sold, Paul, And I often,
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you know, I sometimes I swearI'm going to get a hernia carrying
all the boxes upstairs. Holy cow, I remember Christmas when I was a
kid, it was it was aboutfamily, you know, it was about
everybody getting together, and you knowthe Christmas tree, the turkey, and
you know your aunts, your uncle'scoming. Mind you. My mother used
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to made made Christmas paranormal for mewhen I was a kid, because she
would tell us Christmas Eve, well, this is what would happen Christmas Eve.
My brother and I we had toget ready for bed. We each
had our baths and then we getready for bed. And as we're getting
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ready for bed in the bathroom,my mother would say, the angels left
new pajamas for you under the Christmastree. Oh. Now, when you're
five or six and your mother tellsyou angels brought you pajamas, like,
am I going to die? Ohmy god? You know, like,
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why in the name of God wouldyou tell a kid that? Oh?
Yes, yes, that was aboutthe strangest thing that happened to me as
a kid when it came to theparanormal and my dearly departed mother, how
do you celebrate Christmas? We gotthe Christmas tree. We sometimes hand out
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gifts to our friends, and infact, this Christmas time, we handed
out a bunch of gifts. UhMy wife makes these cute little resin type
figurines and stuff of snowmen of elvesand stuff like that, and we give
those away for free to people thatwe like. And yeah, so yeah,
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if you were nearby, you'd probablybe getting one. Rough. Well,
thank you, buddy. I noticedyou said people you like you give
for free, so people you don'tlike you charge for right, Yeah,
you know. I the Christmas ismy favorite time of the year, and
there's no doubt about it. There'ssomething special. And if people do not
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believe in spirits, man, theChristmas spirit, you cannot deny. And
you're mentioning your fur baby. Ihave two fur babies here, Story and
Champagne Champagnes a Chihuahua, and uhStory an Austshire half Australian Terrier Yorkshire Terrier,
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and we actually on some cases bringthem along because they can sense a
ghost, they've actually chased something thatwe couldn't see, or they quartered something
and start barking at it. Sothey've actually been very helpful. There are
k nine paranormal investigators and they dovery well. Animals are very intuitive and
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oh yes, very much, sovery much so you and I were talking
briefly during the commercial break about aninvestigation that you did called the Pelleteer Road
Bridge in Gault. Yes, that'sa very unusual bridge, and the information
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I'm gonna say here you can actuallylook it up because it's almost unbelievable.
Okay, Back in eighteen hundreds,a stage coach was going down where that
bridge is located, and these twogentlemen saw an egg shape UFO land in
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the field and from that UFO cameout two tall aliens holding an a shape
object in their hands that was glowing, and they were approaching the men,
and the men thought they were goingto be abducted and took off in their
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stage coach. Now, now,how long ago was this, Paul,
And where exactly is Golt. Golt, California is near Lodi, and you
probably heard the song by Kreta's ClearwaterRevival back in Lodi. Again, Golt
is right next to Lodi. Andthe UFO case that I talked about is
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a very famous case. You cangoogle Golt, California and UFO and they'll
talk about it. But besides that, Peltier Bridge is very haunted. They
actually people driving on that bridge theysee a woman and she looks like she's
crying in distress and walking along thatbridge. Well, stories are that some
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people have committed suicide at the bridgeand also too, this is a well
known case. But this guy andhis cousin picked up this woman who happened
to be the girlfriend of one ofthe guys, and they took her out
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in the woods to get physical withher in a very bad way while she
was fighting them off, and theywind up killing her and dragging her body
along the road in their car.Oh, for gosh sake. Yes,
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And her spirit is seen at thatbridge, and that happened like in the
nineteen eighties. Many many paranormal investigatorswho have investigated that bridge. They know
about the UFO story, and theyknow about the murder incident that happened by
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the bridge, and they have pickedup EVPs of a woman crying. One
of my investigators, not me,but one of my investigators picked up an
EVP and it sounded like a womanscreaming. So that bridge is very,
very haunted. When you go overit at night, you feel like there's
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people, You feel like someone's watchingyou, and it's just it gives you
goosebumps. It's just a very verycreepy bridge, and it's Peltier Bridge,
and it's a very scary spot ifif paranormal investigators. Sometimes I hear the
new ones going, well, wehave all this equipment, we've got no
place to go. You have allkinds of places go. You can go
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to Peltier Bridge that's open to thepublic and you're going to get some results.
Paul, whatever happened to the Mothman, nobody talks about him anymore.
We did have in two thousand andnine a mothman signing right here in Sacramento,
California, which is right next toEl Grove, at the Sacramento Bridge,
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which is called the Tower Bridge.A Lamont Grier, who happens to
be a professional photographer, was atthe Sacramento River near the Tower Bridge and
he saw something perched on top ofthat bridge, and he described it as
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looking like the Mothman. And heknew nothing about the Mothman in point Pleasant,
but yet he was able to talkto a sketch artist and came up
with what looked like a mothman.Well, first off, I didn't think
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his story was believable, but thenI interviewed him and I put the interview
out there, and Monster Quest fromthe History Channel actually did an interview with
him, and they're the ones thatgot the sketch artists, and he started
describing the Mothman. Well, Idon't I actually believed Lamont Greer knew nothing
about the Mothman because he was notinto the paranormal or anything else like that.
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And then three other people we rememberone, two, three, No,
all right, four other people sawthe Mothman at Tower Bridge and they've
even wrote their little stories on theInternet saying that they're walking the tower for
Bridge around three o'clock in the morning, and some people think that maybe they're
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seeing some kind of huge barnel orsomething like that, but I don't know.
They're describing what looks like a mothman. And a lot of people believe
that the Mothman is a harbinger ofdoom. But the only thing is,
even though there's been sightings of theMothman at Tower Bridge, nothing bad has
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happened in Sacramento. Wow, hey, Paul, as always, time goes
by so fast when you're with me, my friend, I want to thank
you very much for being on theshow, and thank you for all the
great stuff that you put out thereso that people can get a better understanding
of the paranormals. So until thenext time we meet, my friend,
and if it isn't before Christmas,to you and your family, a very
merried Christmas and nothing but the bestin the new year, my friend.
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Oh, Merry Christmas, Rob andsending love to your family and I hope
you have the best Christmas ever.All right, Paul, take care of
yourself, Buddy, you too,you too. Well, that's it for
this hour exonation. I'll be backtomorrow night at eleven o'clock as once again
we cross the time space continuum.It is place that I call the xone.
It's a place for people dear tobelieve and dear to be heard,
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And were heard Monday through Friday ateleven pm right here on your hometown radio,
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So until tomorrow night, keep youreyes to the sky and your heart
to the light. Good night,everyone,
Oh, Henry, Welcome to theX Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality. Nowhere's your host, Rob occonnell Homer,
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a man who called himself you knowhoo, just invited into a secret wink
wink at the you know what.You certainly are popular now that you're a
stonecutter. Oh yeah, Beer bust, beer blast, Keggers, steinheist AA
meetings, beer night. It's wonderful, March. I've never felt so accepted
in all my life. These peoplelook deep within my soul and assigned me
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a number based on the order inwhich I joined to in that thing,
bringing that to a million pies.Blag you always do. And welcome to
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the xone everyone. I am RobMcConnell, and we're coming to you from
our broadcast center in studios in SaintCatherines, Ontario, on the Xzone Broadcast
network, and from the studios ofClassic twelve twenty, your hometown radio here
in Saint Catherines. If you'd liketo send me an email, x own
at x owner Radio TV dot comor my new email address at Classic twelve
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twenty xon event Classic twelve twenty dotCA. Alrighty, getting ready for some
heavy snow here in Saint Catharines,Ontario tonight. I am told yesterday in
Quebec, where my dad lives,God blessing me. He's ninety five years
old. He woke up to thirtyseven and a half centimeters of snow.
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Wow, they got at in Quebec, and it's beginning to look a lot
like Christmas. There's no doubt aboutthat. Anyway, We're going to have
a great show this hour x ONation. My guest is Paul Dale Roberts,
and we've had the pleasure of havingPaul on the show. He's what
I would consider a regular over here. And Paul, welcome back to the
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x OWE my friend. Thanks verymuch for joining us. Thank you,
Rob. I love being here.I feel like I'm at home. Well
that's the way we like it.Please take your feet off the couch.
My wife doesn't like that. Okay. Hey, Paul. For our listeners
who may not have had the opportunityof listening to you before. As we
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keep on growing throughout the x ONation, tell us a little bit about
yourself and how you got involved inthe world of the paranormal and all the
weird things that you and I havetalked about over the years. Well,
I had a very strange journey there. Rob As a child, I lived
on a haunted house. All typesof things were happening to me. So
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as I got older, I wantedto know if those were childhood nightmares or
was that really something paranormal that washappening to me, And to this very
day, I believe it was verymuch the paranormal. As I grew older,
I joined the Army. I becamean investigator, but it was an
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investigator, not of the paranormal,but of narcotics. I was an MP
working undercover with the Drug Suppression TeamCID Criminal Investigation Division in Germany, and
we were after things like the Khakimafia, people who were distributing drugs and
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testifying an article thirty twos in courtmartials. So that's where my investigative skills
came in. And then in nineteenseventy I realisted in the Army and I
always wanted to know if military intelligenceknew anything about UFOs, and I became
a ninety seven Bravo and military intelligencewith a photo interpretation center in Korea,
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and I did learn that military intelligencedid indeed know something about UFOs. Even
though that project Bluebook closed down innineteen sixty nine, the military was still
investigating UFOs or UAPs, whatever youwant to call him now. And then
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in my lifetime I did some bountyhunter work on my own. I did
private investigations with Silhouette Enterprises, whichwas my own company, and I wasn't
very successful with that. But thenhere comes along this one paranormal investigator said,
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Paul, you write a lot.You know, at the time I
was working with the comic book industryof writing stories and everything else, and
she said, well, Yota,join us on a paranormal adventure in I
own California at the Jackson Hotel,which is very haunted, and write a
story about it. So I did, and it was published in two British
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magazines. The owner of the timeof Halo Paranormal Investigations really was excited that
the story was published, and shewanted me to be the ghost writer to
HPI Halo Paranormal Investigations. And atsome point in time she quit. She
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got more into music, and shedoes a vampire ball and all this sort
of stuff, and I became theowner and the president of Halo Paranormal Investigations
and that's how I became a paranormalinvestigator, Paul. Why are so many
bars, hotels, pubs, restaurants, and you know, places like that
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filled with so many paranormal stories andhauntings. Well, especially the old ones
back in wild Wall West. Yougo to night clubs now and you hear
stories about people getting into bar fights, people actually getting killed at bars.
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They have gun violence and everything else. So, like the Jackson Hotel was
a hotel back in eighteen hundreds,and some of the gold miners stayed in
that hotel. Prostitutes stayed in thathotel. There was jealousy involved. There
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was a couple prostitutes that were killedin that hotel. There was a cowboy
who stayed in one of the roomsand he committed suicide by jumping on the
window. So because of the tragediesthat happened in the past, makes those
places haunted. I see. Well, you know, when you look at
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all the tragedies that have happened throughoutthe American history as well as the Canadian
history, and doubtlessly other places aroundthe world, you would think that this
planet should be just filled with ghosts, spirits, hauntings to a point where
no one could actually deny them.I met parapsychologist Lloyd Adbach. Yeah,
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we had Lloyd on the show lastweek. Oh was he? Oh my
gosh. Okay, Well, ifyou ever have them on the showtime,
I said, hi, I will. We actually did a little convention together
a long time ago in San Jose. Lloyd. One of the things that
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he said was that the whole planetis haunted because people died everywhere, and
that I have a tendency to believethat the whole planet is haunted. I
mean, I have a very psychicmedium on our team Wishfire, and she
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sees ghosts everywhere. We could bewalking down the street and she is,
oh my god, there's something here. And she's proven herself many times over
and over and over again that sheis a true psychic. When she says
she sees something, I can goto that location and probably get an EVP
or some kind of intelligent movement inmy photograph of an entity. So yeah,
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she's proven herself many times over.In the whole world I believe is
haunted. Just like Lloyd said.My name is Rob McConnell. This is
the xone on your hometown Radio Classictwelve twenty, streaming worldwide on Classic twelve
twenty dot CAM. I guess thishour is Paul Dale Roberts, and we're
talking about the paranormal things that gobump in the night and much more.
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If you'd like to send me anemail talking about a guest that we've had,
or if you have had an experiencethat you'd like to share with us,
or maybe you're out there and you'vehad experiences that are unsettling and you
just do not know where to gowho to contact. There's no need for
that. Just send me an emailxxone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA and
(09:35):
we'll certainly channel it to the appropriateperson that we feel could be the best
to help you out, including ourguest this hour, Paul Dale Roberts.
Paul, what are some of theinvestigations that you have worked on that you
think, in your opinion, notonly as a paranormal investigator, but as
a former law enforcement investigator, thatprove on the shadow of a doubt that
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the paranormal is real. Well,there was a case that I had in
Citrus Heights, and it was oneof my most spectacular cases because so much
things were happening. I had fifteenscouts, which are paranormal investigators in training.
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And I brought them to a homein Citrus Heights and I put five
in one room, five in anotherroom, five in another room. Well,
five in one room were practically fallingasleep because nothing was happening. Five
in another room, again they werepractically sleeping because nothing was happening. And
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then five in this other room.All kinds of things were happening. You
could hear a little girl talking andgiggling. And I went to the corner
of the bed and right in frontof me, no more than maybe two
feet, I said, there's alittle girl sitting at the corner of this
bed, because that's where sounds comefrom, right And I put my head
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down and I said hello, andshe says hello. I said, holy
I'm not you know what. AndI said, okay, that's it.
I'm going to bring everybody into thisroom. We're going to conduct a seance.
And we did, and the wallssounded like they were ripping apart.
It sounded like something out of Hell. Razors Cinabytes, the walls are ripping
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apart. There was pounding on thewalls and everything else, and all fifteen
trade scouts are running out the frontdoor. I said, no, no,
get back in here. I said, this is a breakthrough, come
on back. So we're all onfloor again. I'm doing this seance.
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We had three walking talkies on thesame channel, and a voice came on
one of the walkie talking. There'sa man's voice, and he goes,
get out, and again they're runningout the front door. Then the owner
comes up to me and says,Paul, I have to live here.
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Maybe we need to stop this.I said, yes, I understand,
I'll stop it. And she goes, you know what, You're welcome to
stay in this room all night.I said, that's fantastic. I said,
yeah, okay, So I senteverybody home. We set up a
camera and I'm sleeping on this bed, and what happens is I fall asleep
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and a woman's voice you can hear, say, Paul, Paul, Paul,
and then a man's voice which isjust mumbling blah blah blah, and
a child moaning at the foot ofthe bed and a little tapping on the
headboard. And guess what, RobI slept through it all. Oh my
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gosh. But at that point oftime, at that point in time,
I became a true believer of theparanormal. The paranormal exists, and I
witnessed it with fifteen other people.Paul, you and I have to go
to our first break. Please standby explanation. My guess this hour is
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Paul Dale Roberts. And if you'dlike to find out more about Paul,
it's very simple. Just go toyour Google and just put in the search
engine Paul Dale Roberts. Everything aboutthis gentleman will pop up and fascinating gentlemen,
great website, great stories. Butthe thing is he's credible. By
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the way, Paul, thank youfor your service, my friend. Oh
thank you so much, sir.Ron ex Oonation will be back on the
other side of this break as wecontinue here in the X Zone, coming
to you from our studios and broadcastcenter in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, on
your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty streamingaround the world Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
We'll be backed on away. Sofrom our home to yours, this
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is Laura Rogers wishing all the membersof the ex own nation a very merry
Christmas and a happy and joyful NewYear. Read love a lo Christmas,
Just like, are you know?Welcome back to the x OWE. I'm
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Rob McConnell. We're coming to youfrom our broadcast center in Studios in St.
Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, andyou're listening to us on your hometown
radio Classic twelve twenty streaming around theworld Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Paul
Dale Roberts is our guest, andPaul, you sent us a list of
some very interesting things that you wereinvolved with. I'd like to talk to
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you about your zodiac investigation first.Oh, yes, the San Francisco Zodiac.
There was an area in near Valaylecalled Lake Barriessa, and that's where
a couple they had a little picnic. They were laying off in the grass.
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They were getting kind of friendly witheach other, and off in the
distance they saw a man behind atree. And this man was dressed in
all black. He had an executioner'shoodie on and he had a symbol of
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the zodiac on his chest. Andthe guy's girlfriend says, look at that
guy over there, what's he doing. He's watching us And her boyfriend looks
over there and goes, oh,just ignore him. He's just being silly.
He's probably taking pictures of himself wearinga silly suit. Don't even worry
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about it. So they get backbeing friendly again. And the next time
she looks, now this figure iscloser to her. She's starting to get
little nervous. The guy says,just ignore him. She looks again and
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boom, he's right up on them. And before she knew it, and
he knew it, the boyfriend andthe girlfriend. He had the boyfriend tie
up the girl and then he tiedup the guy who was holding a gun
to them, and he went aheadand killed the girl by stabbing her.
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Yeah, and he stabbed the boyfriend, but he survived to tell the story.
So what we did was a ladywho practiced practices the Wickan culture.
She considers herself a witch, andshe calls herself Raven and she's psychic.
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She's a psychic medium. We wentto the location of that murder at Lake
Burry Ess and I tried to getsome evpis maybe I can pick up some
of that residual energy of that particularnight when the zodiac killed that girl.
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And what was to my amazement atthat location, A rock started glowing.
Wait wait a second, wait asecond, A rock started glowing. It
started to glow. It was Ihave no idea. I mean, it
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was just a piece of granite andit started to actually glow. And I
have video footage of that somewhere.I know it was posted on the internet,
but I had no explanation for it. But there was this one person
who studies and rock formations and stufflike that, and he says that sometimes
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rock can contain the energy of thesun and when it does that, it
can glow if it has some quartsin it, in which granted has some
quarts, so there could be alogical explanation. But at the time seeing
that rock glow really kind of blewme away. It was like, does
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that have any connection to the murderby the zodiac at that location? Sounds
like it could have been a signfrom the other side. Yes, yes,
that's kind of what I thought,you know, so, and I
put it to you know, Isent the video footage to some scientists and
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stuff, like the ones who studyrocks and stuff, and that's what they
were telling me, that certain rockscan contain the energy of the sun and
at night time it'll appear like it'sglowing. So I just wanted to see
if I could get an answer toit. Did you? Were you able
to get any EVPs while you werethere? No? No, I tried
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many times over no EVPs. Theonly thing I got that was I considered
paranormal was that glowing rock. That'sfascinating glowing rock. You also did an
investigation, I believe, on theRichard Trenton case, also known as the
Vampire of Sacramento. Oh gosh,that guy was a total monster rob.
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He was a type of guy beforehe was a serial killer. He was
killing little animals and he was torturinganimals. Oh god, Yeah, it
was terrible. And he would take, let's say, a bird and pop
its head off and then raise itup to his mouth and drink the blood.
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That's how sick this man was.There was like five houses up in
northern Sacramento which were the victims ofRichard Trenton chase. And one of the
houses he actually killed a baby,yes, and threw the baby into the
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trash can. And so what wedid, my investigators and I we went
to all the victim homes and conductedan outside investigation. And what was amazing
is all five homes at that timewere vacant, nobody wanted to live in
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them. Yeah, because of themurders and the one house in particular,
when the police asked him, whydid you go in this house and kill
four family members, and his answerwas they left the door open. So
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that tells me if they had lockedthe door, those murders probably would have
never happened. And also too,he was pulling surveillance on that house because
there's these little half walls made ofbrick or yeah, semen blocks near the
house, and he would hide behindthe block wall and watch those people.
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And at some point in time too, he would get excited and he would
defecate at that location. Well,it seems that you know, this guy
was certainly not playing with a fulldeck. No no, And we took
pictures inside that house from the outside, and what we got was the residual
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energy I believe of the victims becausewe got all these blurry images. We
took another picture, then there wassome clarity, and then we took another
picture and some more blurry images,and then we even got a picture of
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what looked like a vortex, likea swirling mist. So I believe there's
a that house is probably extremely onit. And we got all this photographic
evidence, and then we even gotan EVP which sounded like a woman screaming.
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What what would happen if these houseswere bulldozed and you know, they
were just demolished and a new housewas built on the same spot. Is
it possible that the new home,brand new home would be haunted or counter
paranormal experiences because of the tragedy,because of the whoror because of the horrific
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crime that happened at that place,that that brand new house would encounter hauntings
as well. Oh. Absolutely,We've actually had cases like that where something
was bulldozed, it was destroyed,a house that was there before was destroyed,
and that a new house was builtover it, and now that new
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house is haunted. So yeah,absolutely, So whatever happened to this bozo
who did all these horrific crimes,he committed suicide in prison, which is
probably a very good thing. Speakingabout prisons, I would imagine that there's
a lot of prisons throughout the UnitedStates and around the world that are totally
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haunted as well. You know,I have so many stories about prisons,
while prisons, hospitals haunted. Imean, like I did that TV show
called Haunted Hospital. Now, wewere talking prior to going on air about
that that you actually came up toToronto and did an episode of Haunted Hospitals.
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Right, yeah, yeah, andyeah, the hospitals are haunted prisons
because of all the murders, thesuicides and everything. Just like there's we
have a prison close to us herein Elk Grove, California called Folsom Prison
and Fulsome Prison is very haunted.There's stories from prisoners that are on the
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Internet talking about the haunting activities atthe prison. I have an uncle named
Mike Best and he was a correctionalofficer at Old Fulsome Prison and he said,
yes, he goes prisoners himself.Have seen apparitions of former inmates who
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died there, who were murdered there, who committed suicide. There was a
serial killer named thor something. Hewas a Swedish serial killer and he would
pick up hitchhikers and kill them.They have seen he died in prison.
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One of the inmates killed him andhe is seen walking the grounds of Fulsome
Prison. And they have a trailwhich is called Johnny Cash Trail. And
at the Johnny Cash Trail, someof the hikers have actually seen apparitions walk
in the trail, former inmates walkin the trail. I've got a good
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friend of mine. His name isLarry Lawson. In fact, he does
his own radio show called Paranormal Stakeout. He's a former police officer in Fellsmure
on Fellsmare, Florida, but priorto joining he started law enforcement off as
a sheriff's deputy in one of thelocal prisons and it was the events that
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happened within that prison that got himvery interested in the paranormal. And I've
heard, in fact, I've hadguests on the show who are former law
enforcement officers and they all have storiesto tell about the paranormal. Oh yeah,
now I have another cicer. Well, before we go to the next
part, we have to take anotherbreak. Paul. All right, Paul
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Dale Roberts is my guest x OWNation, And if you'd like to find
out more about Paul, just goon to your favorite search engine and type
in Paul Dale Roberts. It's thatsimple. I'm Rob McConnell and this is
the EXO Radio Show, coming toyou from our broadcast center at Studios in
Saint Catharines. Ontario, Canada,and you're listening to us on your hometown
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radio, Classic twelve twenty streaming rightaround the world on Classic twelve twenty dot
CA. Paul Dale Roberts and Ireturn on the other side of this breaks.
Whatever you do, don't go away, and if you do go away,
you've got about a minute to comeback. This is Rob McConnell wishing
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each and every one of you avery, very merry Christmas and a happy,
healthy, prosperous New Year. Fromour home to yours, love,
light and spirituality today and every dayfrom this day forward. Merry Christmas everyone.
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One dead midnight, the sun wasso bright, the moon had no
light. But I could see thisbig old sus what said he was top
nuts at playing hopscotch way up ona tree. So I bet my risk
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what that big old sus would neverplay hopscotch way up in a tree.
Now there's a sasquatch up in atree crutch. He's got my risk watch
and he's laughing at me. Itold the Mounties I loved this explanation.
(30:19):
Welcome back everyone. That's stomp inTom Connor's Sasquatch song and you're listening to
us here in the X Zone fromour broadcast center in studios in St.
Catharines, Ontario, Canada, onClassic twelve twenty, streaming around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.Paul Dale Roberts is my guest, and
if you'd like to find out moreabout Paul, all you need to do
is Google him or go to bingor Edge or wherever and type in Paul
(30:45):
Dale Roberts. Before I get backto Paul, i'd like to remind everyone
that the X Chronicles newspaper will beavailable for one and all on let me
see Thursday at around noontime at wwwdot x chronicles dot net. And there's
the X Zone Christmas Store at xx Zone. That's x M A S.
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No, what is it, Craig, you've changed it on me overnight
x zeno one x M A Sdot com. A lot of great Christmas
presents to you know, gauged towardsthe paranormal. Well that's a mouthful.
Thank you. My friend Paul DaleRoberts is with us, and uh,
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Paul, we were talking about lawenforcement officers and prison uh you know,
guards seeing a lot of paranormal activityand piquing their interest in it. What
are some of the stories that you'veheard about police officers and uh, you
know prison guards. Well, myex brother in law, Simon Mitchell,
was also too a creestionable officer,and he was a creational officer at Fulsom
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Prison and some other location. Andhe said that this one ghost of this
inmate who was killed in prison actuallyhaunts his other inmate who's still living in
his cell. And this inmate wouldstart screaming in the middle of the night
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and Simon Mitchell, the correction officer, would run over and why are you
screaming? He goes, there's aghost in my cell. It's that inmate
who was killed. And they wereactually when that inmate was alive, those
two inmates were always constantly fighting.In fact, he was actually contemplating killing
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that inmate. But now that inmatewho's now dead haunts his cell and wakes
him up in the middle of thenight, even scratched him a little bit.
So Simon Mitchell, my ex brotherin law, says, yeah,
he witnessed the paranormal just through thatstory. He didn't actually see it happen,
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but he heard the story and hebelieves that inmate because it would almost
happen every other night. Strange thingshappen all over the place. You know,
some of the stories that I've neverheard about boggle my imagination. I
have never heard. All Right,maybe are going to prove me wrong,
which I'm sure you will. Ihaven't heard of a haunted morgue or a
(33:29):
haunted funeral parlor. Huh, that'sinteresting. My wife was actually going to
work at a morgue in Elk Grove, and the owner of that morgue said
that he has seen spirits at themorgue. They are not harmful. He
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would just see a glimpse of themwith his peripheral vision and they would just
kind of vanish. So I havenever investigated a morgue, so I wouldn't
have really any kind of expertise inthat. But according to that one owner,
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he says, yeah, his morguewas haunted by passing spirits. Could
you share it with us your experienceat the haunted hospital when you were doing
that TV show? Oh yeah,my son Jason, he went to the
hospital he had some type of bladderinfection and while he was there, you
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know, I'm in the waiting roomand I'm getting kind of bored and stuff
like that. I was talking tosome of the nurses and I said,
yeah, you know, is thishospital haunted. I'm a paranormal investigator.
They kind of chuckled and laughed,but they said, yeah, you know,
I've actually experienced a few things inthe hospice area really, so on
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my own kind of sneaking around,I had my recorder. I went to
the hospice section and I kind ofsat down and relaxed and stuff and see
if I see anything. And Iactually did. I saw this old man
and he had a walker and hewas just taking his time and he's kind
(35:22):
of walking towards me. Well,I thought it was a real person.
And he walks into a wall.It's like, what the heck? And
I was eating some chips from abag and the bag of chips crumbled in
my hand. I said, holycow, this hospital is really really on
(35:50):
it. And that was over inMidland, Odessa. So yeah, they
flew me over Toronto to tell mystory. And definitely, in my mind,
all hospitals are haunted because people diethere all the time. The last
time you were on the show withus, Paul, which wasn't that long
(36:13):
ago, we talked about some ofthe naval ships that are haunted. Oh
yeah, like the USS Nimics.Yeah, yeah, yeah, the USS
Nimics very haunted. My ex brotherin law, Robert Mitchell, he served
on the USS Nimics and the serialkiller John Eric Armstrong was actually assigned to
(36:39):
the USS Nimics. And John EricArmstrong, the serial killer. He killed
two people in Seattle and one ofthem was a trance and he killed five
prostitutes in Detroit and is believed thatwhen the uss nymates were stop at different
(37:00):
ports, that he most likely killeda prostitute at every single port. So
you had that going on, andthey would actually see a woman ghost on
the USS Nemets and they believe thatwas probably one of the victims of John
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Eric Armstrong. And another thing withthe USS Nimets is that they had a
plane crash on the uss nmets andfourteen Navy personnel died, and the servicemen
on the USS Nimets they would seefaces appear on reflective service surfaces and those
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those faces that are on those reflectivesurfaces are the deceased Navy personnel who died
in that plane crash on the Ussnimetz. And then also too, on the
USSNIMETS you had that tic tech UFOoutside of San Diego, and USS NIMTS
is a target for UFO activity becauseit's an actual attack nuclear powered worship.
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So yeah, so that's what theUSS nemics ex oanation. Paul Dale Roberts
is our guest, and this isthe X Zone, and you're listening to
us right here on your hometown radioClassic twelve twenty and streaming around the world
on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.You sent us an information about Lawrence liverwhere
Livermore Labs in California. Now,isn't that one of the labs that does
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a lot of high tech research anddevelopment for NASA. Yes, and also
too, they do superpowered lasers.In fact, our governor, aren'td Scharseninger
wanted to invite some of his celebrityfriends to the Lawrence Livermore Labs to actually
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witness some of the super lasers thatthe lab had, and those super lasers
is an attraction for UAP activity UFOsand the reason why because it's high tech.
Lasers can be very dangerous, canprobably even shoot down a UAP a
(39:31):
UFO, And so I would thinkthat extraterrestrials would have a strong interest in
the Lawrence Livermore Labs. The peoplewho live in Livermore, California say that
there's UFO activity there every single night. So HPI Halo Paranormal Investigations. My
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group we went to a camping areanear Lawrence Livermore Labs, and we can't
actually get into those labs because it'sall liked top secret and everything else.
So we stayed on the campsite andwe looked at the nice sky all night
long, and we did see somestarlight UAPs that moved erratically in the sky.
(40:22):
So there was something like nine investigatorswith me, and about five of
them including myself, did witness somestrange activity in the sky. And the
UFOs were at a distance where theylooked like stars, but they didn't move
(40:43):
like satellites, and they moved erratically. There was like one UAP actually moved
in a Z formation, and noconventional aircraft can move in a Z for
me quickly. But isn't it fairto say that no conventional aircraft that we
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know of or that has been publiclyannounced can do that. Is it possible
that there's top secret aircraft that canactually do that that the Air Force or
any other other military just hasn't disclosedyet because if they disclose it to the
public, they're going to disclose itto those countries that are not friendly to
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us. Right, absolutely wrong.Yeah, something like that could possibly be
one of our military secretive aircraft andit wouldn't be piloted by a human because
the g forces alone going at thathigher rate of speed doing a Z formation
would kill you. You would turninto jelly. So if anything, maybe
(41:53):
it's a robotic type drone drone.Yeah, Yeah, that's moving at those
incredible spees in those uadical type behavior. All right, Paul, standbye.
We've got to take our final breakfor this hour and explanation. Our guest
this hour is Paul Dale Roberts.Just google him. All the information is
(42:13):
there. Type in Paul Dale Roberts. This is the x oone. I
am Rob Mcondomb. We're coming toyou from our broadcast center in studios in
Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada,on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and
streaming around the world on Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. The X Zone is
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(42:37):
to Monday through Friday at eleven o'clock. Like I've been saying all night right
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Away. He was hop nuts atplaying hop scott way up on a tree.
So I bet my risk what thatbig olds swatch would never play hopscotch
(43:04):
way up in a tree. Nowthere's a sasquatch up in a tree crutch.
He's got my wrist watch and he'slaughing at me. Ship. I
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am evil Homer. I am EvilHomer. I am Evil Homer. I
am Evil Homer. Beat, beatup and battered around, beat saying up
(43:50):
and up beat, shut down.You're the best thing that happened and reputation.
Jane City, some storm baby,Welcome back everyone. This is the
(44:20):
excellent I'm Rob McConnell and we're comingto you from our broadcast center in studios
right here in the beautiful city,the Garden City of Ontario, Saint Catherine's
If you'd like to send me anemail X Zone at x owner. I'm
sorry, x Zone at Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. And why am chuckling
is because that little clip we played, it's called let me See where is
(44:43):
it? Simpson's Homer Simpson Gilselmo.And you know, I can understand where
where Homer was coming from because oneyear, my dear wife Lura bought four
of our younger grandchildren Elmo dog dollsfor Christmas, not just the regular ones,
but the ones that talk. Andwhen you've got four little grandchildren who
(45:07):
have a little Elmo going at thesame time saying different things, I can
understand why Homer wanted to do thatto Almo. I wanted to do that
to Almo, not to the grandchildren, just Almo. Oh, welcome back,
(45:28):
Paul, and thank you. Ron. What do you think about Almo?
Any of your kids go crazy forhim? Yeah? You know.
I love the Simpsons, I mean, and what's so amazing about the Simpsons
is the fact that a lot oftheir episodes predicted the future. They predicted
(45:50):
that Trump would become president, andthey did a bunch of other predictions and
they all came true, which iskind of amazing. Yeah, what do
you guys, how do you celebrateChristmas in Elk Grove, California? Do
you get you don't get snow?No, it don't get snow. It
gets cold though sometimes. All right, Paul, what do you consider cold
(46:16):
seventeen degrees? Well, if you'relooking for sympathy, my friend, you're
on the wrong show. But wehave our Christmas tree up and everything else.
And I like to let my wifedo her own Christmas shopping at the
mall. She knows what she wantsand picks out, so yeah, I
(46:39):
let her do her own thing.My wife does her shopping from our living
room on something called Amazon. Ohyeah, Oh, by the way,
that was not a plug for Amazon. So but you can find my books
on Amazon. That was a plugfor Amason. Yeah. You know,
(47:04):
like every time I go to bringour little fur baby downstairs for a walk,
I have to pass by the mailarea and they've got these big tables
set up and they're usually just jampacked with packages from that company. I
mentioned a few places where your booksare sold, Paul, And I often,
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you know, I sometimes I swearI'm going to get a hernia carrying
all the boxes upstairs. Holy cow, I remember Christmas when I was a
kid, it was it was aboutfamily, you know, it was about
everybody getting together, and you knowthe Christmas tree, the turkey, and
you know your aunts, your uncle'scoming. Mind you. My mother used
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to made made Christmas paranormal for mewhen I was a kid, because she
would tell us Christmas Eve, well, this is what would happen Christmas Eve.
My brother and I we had toget ready for bed. We each
had our baths and then we getready for bed. And as we're getting
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ready for bed in the bathroom,my mother would say, the angels left
new pajamas for you under the Christmastree. Oh. Now, when you're
five or six and your mother tellsyou angels brought you pajamas, like,
am I going to die? Ohmy god? You know, like,
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why in the name of God wouldyou tell a kid that? Oh?
Yes, yes, that was aboutthe strangest thing that happened to me as
a kid when it came to theparanormal and my dearly departed mother, how
do you celebrate Christmas? We gotthe Christmas tree. We sometimes hand out
(48:59):
gifts to our friends, and infact, this Christmas time, we handed
out a bunch of gifts. UhMy wife makes these cute little resin type
figurines and stuff of snowmen of elvesand stuff like that, and we give
those away for free to people thatwe like. And yeah, so yeah,
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if you were nearby, you'd probablybe getting one. Rough. Well,
thank you, buddy. I noticedyou said people you like you give
for free, so people you don'tlike you charge for right, Yeah,
you know. I the Christmas ismy favorite time of the year, and
there's no doubt about it. There'ssomething special. And if people do not
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believe in spirits, man, theChristmas spirit, you cannot deny. And
you're mentioning your fur baby. Ihave two fur babies here, Story and
Champagne Champagnes a Chihuahua, and uhStory an Austshire half Australian Terrier Yorkshire Terrier,
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and we actually on some cases bringthem along because they can sense a
ghost, they've actually chased something thatwe couldn't see, or they quartered something
and start barking at it. Sothey've actually been very helpful. There are
k nine paranormal investigators and they dovery well. Animals are very intuitive and
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oh yes, very much, sovery much so you and I were talking
briefly during the commercial break about aninvestigation that you did called the Pelleteer Road
Bridge in Gault. Yes, that'sa very unusual bridge, and the information
(50:52):
I'm gonna say here you can actuallylook it up because it's almost unbelievable.
Okay, Back in eighteen hundreds,a stage coach was going down where that
bridge is located, and these twogentlemen saw an egg shape UFO land in
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the field and from that UFO cameout two tall aliens holding an a shape
object in their hands that was glowing, and they were approaching the men,
and the men thought they were goingto be abducted and took off in their
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stage coach. Now, now,how long ago was this, Paul,
And where exactly is Golt. Golt, California is near Lodi, and you
probably heard the song by Kreta's ClearwaterRevival back in Lodi. Again, Golt
is right next to Lodi. Andthe UFO case that I talked about is
(52:00):
a very famous case. You cangoogle Golt, California and UFO and they'll
talk about it. But besides that, Peltier Bridge is very haunted. They
actually people driving on that bridge theysee a woman and she looks like she's
crying in distress and walking along thatbridge. Well, stories are that some
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people have committed suicide at the bridgeand also too, this is a well
known case. But this guy andhis cousin picked up this woman who happened
to be the girlfriend of one ofthe guys, and they took her out
(52:50):
in the woods to get physical withher in a very bad way while she
was fighting them off, and theywind up killing her and dragging her body
along the road in their car.Oh, for gosh sake. Yes,
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And her spirit is seen at thatbridge, and that happened like in the
nineteen eighties. Many many paranormal investigatorswho have investigated that bridge. They know
about the UFO story, and theyknow about the murder incident that happened by
(53:32):
the bridge, and they have pickedup EVPs of a woman crying. One
of my investigators, not me,but one of my investigators picked up an
EVP and it sounded like a womanscreaming. So that bridge is very,
very haunted. When you go overit at night, you feel like there's
(53:57):
people, You feel like someone's watchingyou, and it's just it gives you
goosebumps. It's just a very verycreepy bridge, and it's Peltier Bridge,
and it's a very scary spot ifif paranormal investigators. Sometimes I hear the
new ones going, well, wehave all this equipment, we've got no
place to go. You have allkinds of places go. You can go
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to Peltier Bridge that's open to thepublic and you're going to get some results.
Paul, whatever happened to the Mothman, nobody talks about him anymore.
We did have in two thousand andnine a mothman signing right here in Sacramento,
California, which is right next toEl Grove, at the Sacramento Bridge,
(54:46):
which is called the Tower Bridge.A Lamont Grier, who happens to
be a professional photographer, was atthe Sacramento River near the Tower Bridge and
he saw something perched on top ofthat bridge, and he described it as
(55:07):
looking like the Mothman. And heknew nothing about the Mothman in point Pleasant,
but yet he was able to talkto a sketch artist and came up
with what looked like a mothman.Well, first off, I didn't think
(55:27):
his story was believable, but thenI interviewed him and I put the interview
out there, and Monster Quest fromthe History Channel actually did an interview with
him, and they're the ones thatgot the sketch artists, and he started
describing the Mothman. Well, Idon't I actually believed Lamont Greer knew nothing
about the Mothman because he was notinto the paranormal or anything else like that.
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And then three other people we rememberone, two, three, No,
all right, four other people sawthe Mothman at Tower Bridge and they've
even wrote their little stories on theInternet saying that they're walking the tower for
Bridge around three o'clock in the morning, and some people think that maybe they're
(56:15):
seeing some kind of huge barnel orsomething like that, but I don't know.
They're describing what looks like a mothman. And a lot of people believe
that the Mothman is a harbinger ofdoom. But the only thing is,
even though there's been sightings of theMothman at Tower Bridge, nothing bad has
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happened in Sacramento. Wow, hey, Paul, as always, time goes
by so fast when you're with me, my friend, I want to thank
you very much for being on theshow, and thank you for all the
great stuff that you put out thereso that people can get a better understanding
of the paranormals. So until thenext time we meet, my friend,
and if it isn't before Christmas,to you and your family, a very
merried Christmas and nothing but the bestin the new year, my friend.
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Oh, Merry Christmas, Rob andsending love to your family and I hope
you have the best Christmas ever.All right, Paul, take care of
yourself, Buddy, you too,you too. Well, that's it for
this hour exonation. I'll be backtomorrow night at eleven o'clock as once again
we cross the time space continuum.It is place that I call the xone.
It's a place for people dear tobelieve and dear to be heard,
(57:22):
And were heard Monday through Friday ateleven pm right here on your hometown radio,
Classic twelve twenty and streamed around theworld on Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
So until tomorrow night, keep youreyes to the sky and your heart
to the light. Good night,everyone,
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