January 28, 2024 • 57 mins
Robert Lee Camp is a highly regarded astrologer known for his deep understanding of astrology and its profound impact on individuals' lives. With years of experience and a wealth of knowledge, Camp has established himself as an authority in the field. His insightful and accurate analyses have gained him a dedicated following and have helped countless people gain clarity and guidance in their personal and professional endeavors. Camp's approach to astrology is holistic, considering not only the placement of celestial bodies in a birth chart but also utilizing numerology and intuition to provide a comprehensive understanding of one's life path. His compassionate and empathetic nature enables him to connect with clients on a deeper level, offering them profound insights into their strengths, challenges, and potential opportunities. With his unique blend of wisdom, intuition, and analytical skills, Robert Lee Camp has become an invaluable resource for those seeking self-discovery and personal growth through astrology.
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Oh, Henry, Welcome to theX Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality. Nowhere's your host, rob Ricconnell to in
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that thing YouTube bringing the heart intoa million pieces like you always do.
He don't need to be cool andgood evening and welcome back to the x
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soone. I am Rob McConnell,and we're coming to you from our broadcast
center in studios in Saint Catherine's,Ontario, Canada, on your hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. The Xton is a
place where people dared to believe anddear to be heard. The x oone
is a place where fact is fictionand fiction is reality. And you're listening
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to us. As I said onyour hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty, our
first guest tonight XON Nation is RobertLee Camp and we're going to talk to
Robert about astrology. So joining menow from North Carolina is Robert Lee Camp
and Robert, welcome back to theX Zone. Always great having you with
us, sir. Well, thanksRob, it's great to be here.
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Please have a good time here.Yeah. For the listeners who may not
have had the opportunity of listening toyou here on the show. Before tell
us a little bit about yourself.Well, about thirty years ago, I
was started studying astrology. It waslike a hobby. And in the process
of that, a friend of mineintroduced me to a book that was written
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in the nineteen forties and it wasn'tastrology, but it was like astrology.
It had a description of every birthdayof the year, but instead of being
a sign, you are a cardin the deck. And so I looked
up my birthday. She said,hey, check this out. What do
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you think? And I looked upmy birthday and I saw that I was
a Queen of Diamonds. That wasmy card, and I read what she
wrote about it, and it wasjust so stunningly accurate. It blew my
mind. And what really blew mymind about it was that there were eight
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birthdays that had the same card asme, and I just could not understand
because with astrology it's very particular.You know, it's the time, the
place, and the date that goesinto determining your charge and so forth.
But this was just like more accuratethan anything I had read in astrology,
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more specific, and I couldn't believethat there were eight of the birthdays,
and it didn't matter what year.By the way, any year of that
birthday would have the same card.But it described my life perfectly, and
that just got me started with thisand I've been doing it ever since.
Basically, that's basically the story.Now, what is the difference between the
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deck of cards that you use comparedto a playing deck of cards with fifty
two cards and four different suits,Well, it is the deck of playing
cards, so I'm actually referring toThat's what was mentioned in this book,
And as I did more research init, there were other books that I
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came upon eventually where they talked abouthow the deck of cards had been around.
Well, the first book ever writtenabout this system that's connected to the
deck of playing cards was written ineighteen ninety four, and the man that
wrote that book said that this systemhad been around since the days of Atlantis,
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and that you know, it hadbeen kept secret for a really long
time because the Earth kind of wentthrough a really dark age period of history
where you would have been burned atthe stake or killed for even talking about
such things. You mentioned a birthcard, Well, what is my birth
card, for example? And whatcan it tell me about myself and my
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life. Yeah, so I'm sorry, Rob, I don't remember your birthday.
Can you tell me again your birthday? Sure, it's April twenty seven,
Okay, April twenty seven. Sothere's basically two cards for most people.
But there's the main one, whichis a birth card, and your
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birth card is the Seven of Clubs. Clubs is a suit of knowledge.
Okay. Now seven is very particularbecause it sets right in the center of
the suit. So if you ifyou lay all the cards out from the
ace to the king, in thevery center of the suit is the seven.
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So the seven has what is calledone foot in the mundane world and
one foot in the spiritual realm.And so people that are seven's, they
often have an amazing gift, youmight say, and yours would be the
gift of the mind. Like,for example, ex President Clinton is the
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seven o' clubs. Robin Williams wasthe Seven of Clubs. They they you
know, I wasn't so prominently knownwith Clinton, but Robin Williams was a
comedic genius. Well I actually methim in person, did a reading for
his wife once, and he justlike channels comedy, you know, and
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so set have that the Seven ofClubs has that ability to tap into this
really high level of spiritual or otherworldlyknowledge, and then the other side is
the mundane side. And so theygo back and forth from feeling like they're
just connected to the whole universe,and then they can get really down and
kind of depressed a little bit whenthey go to the opposite side and they
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kind of swing back and forth overthe course of their lifetime. Fascinating And
that is so true. That isthat is so true. Yeah, And
they have a desire to most Sevenof Clubs have a strong desire to make
a name for themselves, to becomemore prominent, famous, or whatever you
want to call it. But it'sinherent in all of them. So it's
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it's called the card of spiritual knowledge. Actually is the most flattering term that
use for it. Maybe that's whyI love this job so much. Yeah,
I mean, you're doing exactly whatseven our Clubs would do in its
highest expression, you know, justdoing exactly that. So from what I'm
seeing, if somebody has a problemunderstanding or trying to figure out where they
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would best fit in not only society, but in the job world, that
is out there. This method wouldbe very very helpful to them. Oh
yeah, you know it. Itgives a non judgmental look at your life
and a person's life and their therethe karma that they will experience in this
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lifetime. And it shows them theirgifts, and it shows them their challenges
and and you know, I've helpedso many people like find the right career
path or just just to be ableto accept themselves. You know, it's
so funny, like if your kidis a is a three uh of any
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suit or a five, they're goingto be diagnosed as ADHD. They're going
to be diagnosis bipolar because their energyis just so scattered. It's a creative
energy actually, And but that's whathappened. That's what we do in today's
society. We just throw a labelat them and give them drugs. You
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know. Yeah, it's a loteasier than understanding what the problem is and
then working on the problem. Yeah, or just letting them be exactly are
you know, letting them be whothey are? You know, you and
I aren't that very far apart inour age. And I cannot remember,
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you know, ten fifteen, twentyyears ago, every hearing about ADHD exactly.
It's it's you know, it's justall these that's just a that's just
like a thing about our society.You know, we've we've just gone into
this this place where we just wantto throw a label on something so we
can feel safe, you know.And it's it's very confusing for anybody out
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there because you know, here you'vegot people saying, don't do drugs,
and then a young child who isdiagnosed with ADHD has given ridlin, which
is a derivative of cocaine. Yeah, and other drugs too, I mean,
other non you know, antidepressants,keep their moods in check. It's
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it's all, it's all madness,don't you think. I think I think
it's very hard to be a kidthese days. Yeah. You know.
Our grandson the other day was hereand my wife was writing something on the
counter, and my grandson's nine orten, and he said, you know
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how to write, grandma? Andshe said, of course, son,
Well can you teach me? Becausethey don't teach kids script and ascribe in
school anymore. No kidding, No, I have no idea. Yeah,
you know, like you've got aniPhone, you've got an iPad, you've
got a computer. What do youneed to learn how to write for?
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And and then my my big argumentis as well, what happens when the
Internet goes down? Guys? Youknow we've seen this happen before. Yeah,
well, I mean just just myown personal life, you know,
when the internet's gone down. Yeah, there's been periods where I just like
kind of like start to freak out. You know, one thing that I
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learned very early in my radio careeris you always have a hard lined telephone
line no matter where you are,because as long as you've got a copper
line, you can always do yourradio show. Oh yeah, the over
the topone system. Yeah, it'sa great life if you don't weaken my
friend. And I always believe thatif you're not part of the solution,
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you're part of the problem. Andthere's too many people today who stick their
head in the sand and would ratherbe a bicycle rack than to somebody,
than somebody who actually wants to workon a solution, because problems, when
you try to solve them, actuallytake time, dedication, and you have
to be compassionate. And a lotof people these days, like I said,
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iPhone, I have this and thatand the other thing, Well,
the intention. I think the attentionspan has really gotten really short, you
know, because of all the mediaand everything. We just can't stand I
mean, I just look around,we run. We just went on a
cruise for Thanksgiving? Are how nice? Nice? And you know here we
are here, we are in atropical paradise, right on a beach.
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Yeah, you know, it's eightydegrees sunny, the water's warm. People
are sitting around on their phone.Well, go to a family restaurant these
days and see the families instead ofcommunicating talking discussing life and or their family,
or what their dreams and aspirations are, they're on their iPhones. Yeah,
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it's true. It's ridiculous. Itis totally ridiculous. Yeah, it's
a crazy world that we live inthese days. It sure. As I
remember going to school, my parentsgave me the form of communication known as
a dime because if you needed help, you found a payphone and you called.
Mind you, the operator was free, So you just kept that dime
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in case you needed to get mumor somebody to come and pick you up
at school. Yeah. Yeah,how does how come you don't use the
the the different tarot cards in yourprofession? That you've decided to stick with
the tried and true fifty two deck. Well, it turns out that only
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the tried and true fifty two deckis the one that actually matches perfectly the
calendar of the Earth. Really,yes, I mean it's it's this is
what's really amazing. When people hearthis, they just they're blown away by
this because you never hear about this, right, but you know, I
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mean, there's fifty two weeks ina debt in a car in a year,
and that that could be a coincidence, right, it could be.
And then you look at the factthat there's thirteen cards in each suit,
and there's thirteen full moons every year, you know, thirteen lunar cycles.
Right. Then you have the twocollars red and black for day and night.
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You have the four suits which otherfour seasons. But then the really
kicker is when you take all thecards in the deck and add up the
number of value of each card.Well, I've got to take a commercial
break, so let's have a bitof a clip. I youn here,
my friend and Robert. I wantto thank you so much for joining us.
What's the website our listeners can goto to find out more about you
seven Thunders, the number seven andthe word thunders dot com. Robert Lee
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Camp and I will return on theother side of this break as we continue
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and welcome to the excellent everyone.My name is Rob McConnell and we're
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Classic twelve twenty dot CA. RobertRobert Lee Camp is my special guest this
hour. And first of all,Robert, thanks very much. And we
played the fifth dimensions Age of Aquariuscoming back into this and I love that.
Yeah, I love that. Withyour deck of cards, we're with
these traditional deck of cards. Arethere different houses as well? Or no,
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there's not houses like there is thereare planetary periods, like every year
has seven planetary periods, each isfifty two days long. And these these
periods have cards in them that arecalculated from birth. We don't shovele cards
at all. We don't. Thisis not like a tarot deck where you
shuffle them and do a reading.This is every card for your whole life
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is laid out by the day ofyour birth, and so every year you
have cards that tell you what's goingto happen, what who's going to happen
with? And when it's going tohappen. Now, before we go into
the break, we were just discussingdifferent aspects of the fifty two card of
deck. For example, the fiftytwo weeks of a year, the es
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let me see the thirteen phases ofthe moon, Yeah, and thirteen cards
in need suit. Yeah. Butthe real kicker is when you add up
all the cards in the deck wherethe ace is one, help to the
ten, Jack is eleven, Queenis twelve, King is thirteen. When
you add up the entire deck,it adds up to three hundred and sixty
five. Wow. That is noother deck does that. No other card
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system, the tarot decks don't dothat. This is the only one that's
mathematically connected to the Earth's calendar.Basically, it's like holding the Earth's calendar
in your hand when you're holding adeck of cards. Now, it certainly
doesn't seem to be a coincidence.It's not a coincidence. No. And
so the agents that originally taught thisor originated this system, they knew that
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there was a way to predict people'sfate with this and to also understand people's
personalities and their life karma and such, and so it was for millennia.
It was really considered a very secretiveand spiritual system that was only known by
a few, and there was asecret order called the Order of the Magi
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that maintained it throughout the dark agesand so forth. So now that we
are in this age of Aquarius,by the way, and the age of
Aquarius is definitely here. Aquarius rulesastrology rules internet connected technology. So what
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we're seeing now is is all thisaquarium stuff in our world which we didn't
see before, Like we had aresurgence of opening up again to all this
astrology and things of that nature,and we see this this whole thing,
like computers and astrology are actually governedby the same houses and signs in astrology,
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which is interesting, you know,yes it is. How does that
work? Well, every sign,every house that there's twelve houses in a
zodiac, and there's twelve signs,every house is ruled by one of these
every house as a ruler that's asign actually, So the eleventh house is
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the house of Aquarius, and it'sruled by the planet Uranus, and Uranus
is the lord basically the lord ofAquarius, the planet that rules Aquarius.
So it just turns out that theeleventh House and Aquarius is all about like
people coming together and being one,and it's all about like futuristic technology,
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and it's all about astrology and thesemystic sciences I call them mystic sciences that
require like a really quick mind tounderstand. It's the best way I can
put it. It's a little bithard to explain, but that's the best
I can come up with. Canyou use the traditional tarot cards along with
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the fifty two? What do wecall it? It just can't be the
deck of playing cards or it hasto be something more elaborate to it.
Well, the first book published wascalled the Mystic Test Book test to ESD,
the Mystic test Book, the Mysticdebt, he said, because the
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system can be tested, you know, that was what he said. But
the actual system doesn't have an officialtitle. I call it the science of
the cards. Some people call itcardology. I never liked that word cardology,
so I never adopted debt myself.But you know, whatever, you
can call it whatever you want,but it is the mystic science connected to
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the deck of cards. I thinkwe should call it the camp deck.
The camp deck, Well, Iappreciate the photo confidence there. Well,
you know, because it makes alot of sense, and it seems a
lot simpler to understand than the traditionalastrological readings that you get or the tarot
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card readings that you get. Andeverybody is aware of the the basis of
the camp deck of guards. Yeah, they're all. They're all familiar with
it. So so if you wereto take the camp deck, I like
that camp dick, Yeah, andcompare it to an astrological reading or a
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tarot reading, how similar would theybe? Well, astrology and this system,
this card system are closely connected.Actually, so I do both when
I do personal readings, Okay,for clients, I combine. I was
already doing astrology when I came uponthis system. So I've just basically blended
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these two together, and it's beenquite quite good to use them together.
You can't actually do a direct correlationbetween the two systems, but if you
know them both, you get tosee that they're connected. These two systems
are connected because they both use astrologicalLike if you know astrology, if you
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know the meaning of the planets andthe signs, then it helps you with
this system because it uses the planetsand signs. Also, it doesn't use
houses, but it used planets andsigns. You have a Mercury card,
you have a Venus card, youhave like in your personal lifespread. There's
a spread of like seventeen cards thatare what's called the lifespread, and it's
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that spread. Basically, it determineskind of gives you an overview of your
whole life. And in that lifespread, you have a Mercury card, a
Venus card, a Mars card toJupiter, Saturn, you're in this Neptune,
Pluto, and a couple of othersthat really define all the different departments
of your life and what your particularkarma is in those different areas. So
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they're very similar. You can't mixthem up together, but they blend together
quite well. When it comes torelationships. I'm sure you've get a lot
of questions about that. Of course, when it comes to using the Camp
deck, how would you how wouldyou understand or how would you read a
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relationship question? Well, every twocards in the deck have they do have
an existing relationship with each other.That's determined. Actually, it's kind of
hard to describe without showing it toyou. But when all the fifty two
cards are laid out, there's aspecial layout called the Grand Solar spread.
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And when all the cards are laidout in this Grand Solar spread, they
seem to be sort of randomly placedall around this, but they're basically end
up in seven lines and seven columnsof cards with three cards to very top.
So you have seven times seven,which is forty nine plus these three
at the top. Now, therelationship between cards is determined by how many
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spaces they are apart from each other, Okay, and it's extremely accurate.
I mean, I can tell you. You can give me any two birthdays
and I can tell you what theirrelationship is like because just by knowing what
the meaning is, how what whattheir can we call it connections that they
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have and the connections that derive againfrom how far apart they are in this
Grand Soldier spread that I'm referring to. The name of your website is seven
thunders dot com. And you wrotea book called the Book of seven Thunders.
That's right. What's the correlation andwhat are the seven thunders? So
there's a there's a passage in inthe in the Bible in Revelations chapter ten,
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where the there's an angel and itsaid the man is about to he
basically devours the seven thunders and theangels holding a book in her hand,
and he's about ready to he's aboutready to prophecy from after he had devoured
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this book of the seven Thunders.Seven thunders represents the seven planets, and
and back then there was only thefive visible planets and the Sun and moon.
So it's been seven planets for areally long time. Okay, there
wasn't like eight planets or whatever.We couldn't they hadn't discovered Uran, Thiss
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and Neptune at that point, justSaturn all the way to Saturn, and
the Sun and moon made seven.And the days of the week are named
after these five planets in the Sunand moon. You're aware of that,
right, yes, yeah. Sothe little Book of the seventh Thunders is
the book that the angel held inher hand. They had all the secrets
of the universe in that book,and he had devoured it, and he
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was about ready to. He wasabout ready to start prophesying. And they
said, seal up those things,utter the seven thunders, and write them
not. Do not write about them. But they said, there will come
a time when you will you willprophecy to nations and kings and so forth,
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but it's going to come later inhistory. So the man that wrote
this book in eighteen ninety four,he said that was their invocation to keep
this knowledge sacred and to keep itsecret until the time was right. And
he said the publication of this bookin eighteen ninety four was when the time
was right to make this knowledge public. Before then, nobody knew. Nobody
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knew this even existed, that therewas any correlation between the calendar and the
cards and all these things that youcan derive from it, nobody knew about
it. I remember there being asong about a soldier playing with a deck
of cards in church and he wascourt martialed. And I can't remember what
it is, but I've got Craigtrying to find it to see if we
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can play. It's called it adeck of cars, and it was by
what's his name? It's a countryWestern guy. Crap h. If you
look it up, it's really easyto find. Just look up deca cards.
We were just looking in our inour audio library and we don't have
it. Oh maybe we do,He says, it's on YouTube. Whatever.
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All right, stand by, We'vegot to take our break and when
we come back more with Robert LeeCamp Seventhunders dot com is the website.
This is the Xzone. I amRob McConnell and we're coming to you from
our broadcast center and studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, on your hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty Classic twelve twentydot CA. I'm Rob McConnell and welcome
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to the X Zone, a placewhere fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
Today on the X Zone, theGreat Lakes Triangle of North America,
found in the heartline of North America. These landlocked yet connected lakes, which
eventually empty into the Atlantic Ocean,had become the scene of more mysteries involving
ships, aircraft, people, UFOghosts, and vandomships than the Bermuda Triangle,
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one sixteenth the size of the BermudaTriangle. Lady John Grave Simcoe was
the first European to chronicle the strangeorbes of life that have been seen above
and blow the waters of Lake Ontario. First Canadians tell of great cities which
surrounded the Great Lakes, where menflew without wings. The Great Lakes Triangle
of North America one of the world'sgreatest mysteries, right in our own backyard.
Friends. This is text Ritter witha strange story about a soldier boy
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and a deck of cards. Duringthe North African Campaign, a bunch of
soldier boys had been on a longhike and they arrived in a little town
called Casino. The next morning,being Sunday, several of the boys went
to church. A sergeant commanded theboys in church, and after the chaplain
had read the prayer, the textwas taken up. Next, those of
the boys who had a the prayerbook took them out. But this one
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boy only had a deck of cards, and so he spread them out.
The sergeant saw the cards and said, soldier, put away those cards.
At the services were over, thesoldier was taken prisoner and brought before the
provost Marshal. The marshal said,sergeant, why have you brought this man
here for playing cards in church?Sir? And what have you to say
for yourself? Son? Much sir, replied the soldier. The marshal said,
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I hope so, for if not, I shall punish you more than
any man was ever punished the soldiersaid, Sir, I have been on
a march for about six days,and I had neither Bible nor prayer book.
But I hope to satisfy you,sir, with the purity of my
intentions. But that the boy startedhis story, you see, Sir.
When I look at the ace,it reminds me that there is but one
God. And the deuce reminds methat the Bible is divided into two parts,
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the Old and the New test Andwhen I see the tray, I
think of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. When I
see the four, I think ofthe four evangelists who preached the Gospel,
Matthew, Mark, Luke, andJohn. And when I see the five,
it reminds me of the five wisevirgins who trim their lamps. There's
ten of them. Five were wiseand were saved, five were foolish and
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were shut out. And when Isee the six, it reminds me that
in six days God made this greatheaven and earth. Want to see the
seven it reminds me that on theseventh day, God rested from his great
work. Want to see the eighth. I think of the eight righteous persons
God saved when he destroyed this earth. There was Noah, his wife,
their three sons, and their wives. And when I see the nine,
I think of the lepers, oursavior cleans and nine of the tin didn't
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even think. Want to see theTen? I think of the ten commandments
God handed down the Moses on atable of stone. Want to see the
King? It reminds me there isbut one king of heaven, God O
mine, and whant to see theQueen? I think of the blessed Virgin
Mary, who is Queen of heaven. And the jack, our name is
the devil. When I count thenumbers of spots on a deck of cards,
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I find three hundred and sixty fivethe number of days in a year.
Fifty two cards the number of weeksin a year. There's four suits,
the number of weeks in a month. There's twelve picture cards the number
of months in a year. There'sthirteen tricks, the number of weeks in
a quarter. So you see,sir, my pack of cards serve me
as a bible all my neck andprayer book. Friends. I know this
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story is true because I knew thatsoldier in the side sat Oh here,
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freaky people need not apply. SoI'm to my hero, but behlf and
a winnen to ask you why.He said you look like a fine I'm
standing young man. You do,so I took up like how to say
imagine that be work be and welcomeback everyone. This is the Excellon Radio
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Show with your shiry Rob McConnell onyour hometown radio Classic twelve twenty www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Anddon't forget. You can always send me
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or a believer. If you'd liketo tell us your comments about a show
that we've done, or if you'dlike to have somebody come on the show,
send me an email. X Zoneat Classic twelve twenty dot ca.
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A. Robert Lee Camp is ourspecial guest seven Thunders dot com And Robert,
that was the song that you andI were talking about in the previous
segment. It's a Deck of Cardsby Tex Ritter And uh wow, yeah,
it's pretty. It's pretty amazing,isn't it? Like that? It
was known somewhat by the by theaverage person, but it really, uh
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really it kind of escaped the attentionof most people. How do you feel
when you hear that song, andknowing what you know about the cards and
about the hidden power or hidden foresightthat these cards actually hold, it made
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me smile. It made me,It made me very happy to listen to
that song. That you hear thatsong again. And I caught I caught
something that I hadn't caught before atthe very end when he said I knew
that soldier. I never heard ofthat before. For some reason, I
thought that was very interesting that thathe said that he knew that soldier and
he met that soldier. Whatever,that's pretty cool, you said earlier in
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the hour of that these cards camefrom Atlantis. That's what Oldie Richmond said.
The only Richmond is the man whowrote that first book that was ever
published to reveal the science behind thissystem. Ken said that can these cards,
and we're talking about the playing cardsthat everybody has seen, who plays
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Uker, who plays kidnasked up Poker, and who goes to Las Vegas and
loses their shirts? Can they foretellthe future? Oh? Absolutely? I
mean, so you have you havetwo different things. You have you have
this understand you have actually three things. The deck. First of all,
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you get to know, you getto read about yourself and learn about yourself
from a different perspective, your lifetimekarma, like we talked about earlier,
your strengths, your weaknesses, thethings you'll probably experience, like for example,
Queen of Clubs women A many ofthem lose a child in their lifetime,
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and the Queen of Clubs is knownas the mother Mary Card who lost
her son Jesus. So women whoare my mother is the Queen of Clubs
and we lost she lost, welost a baby. I had a younger
brother who was three years old andhe died when he was three and a
half years old. He had abirth defect and so forth. So this
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is very common. But there's thesepatterns that are there for all, for
all, every different birthday. Sopeople get to understand themselves. Then they
get to see the relationships they havewith other other cards and the people and
their families and so forth, andthen they get to look at the aspect
where they can look at their future. You can look at your past because
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it has your it has your wholelife. There it goes up to as
long as you live. In mybook, I go up to age one
hundred. But you can go fartherthan that. If you know how,
you can look if somebody lives pastedon here, and you can look past
one hundred to see what's going tohappen. But there are cards for every
single month of your life that arealready in the book, calculated by a
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special algorithm from your moment of birth. You know, we're coming to the
Christmas season, and a deck ofcards with your book, I believe would
be a great Christmas gift for everyone. Well, yeah, I mean I
wrote these books. I started thirtyyears ago, and I thought, well,
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I don't want to make this likesome kind of esoteric system that people
can't relate to or something I wantedit to. I really my intention was
that it could be used by anybody, because it actually is a very easy
system to learn. It's probably theeasiest one of all to learn. It's
way easier than astrology. I cantell you that astrology takes a really a
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certain kind of a mindset to reallylearn it. And this system anybody can
learn it, and you can.You can learn to do readings in less
than like a half an hour.You know, it looks your system is
simplicity in a complicated world. Yeah, it's it becomes like a like it
becomes like a friend, like acounsel that you referred to, because as
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you go through the years and yousee the cards and you start to realize,
oh, wow, these cards arereally accurate. You know, you
start to really get it, like, well, I really should pay attention
to what the cards are saying.And you start paying more attention, and
it helps you make decisions about thingsin your life. It helps you decide,
oh, should I expand my business? Is this a good year for
that? Or should I hold back? Should I move? All these kinds
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of questions get answered by looking andseeing what the influences are coming up.
And it's it's just amazing. It'sit's stunningly accurate. Actually it's it's just
so I can say, you haveto try it to see for yourself.
Let me ask you this. Letme ask you this, my friend,
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if you're sitting down playing cards withsomeone, okay, the cards that they
throw out, if you know themeaning of these cards, will you be
able to read that person? Well, you mean like and I can win
the game? You mean like that? Well, for example, if you're
playing I don't know poker, forno, that's no good because you can't.
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You don't. Somebody doesn't have todo that. There are some card
games where you have to show yourcard, okay, one at a time.
So if I'm sitting there and I'mthe person who's showing the cards on
my side, and you're on theother side of the table, whichever aspect
or whichever whichever way I get ridof my cards, would you be able
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to read that and tell from thecards that I've got that I'm showing what
kind of person I am. Notnecessarily, but you know what I do,
which is much much easier. Ijust ask everybody what their birthday is,
and then I know everything about them. Yeah, that's why you do
that, and I do this,So I looked at the way of doing
it. I just take the easyroute as a formula that you can learn
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in your head, and you aperson can tell you their birthday and you
can calculate their card their birth card, and you can know so much about
them. It's just it's fascinating.You know. It does give you a
certain amount of an edge in negotiatingthat I would imagine, so dealing with
them because you know what their tendenciesare. But how does free will affect
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the cards because when reading a cardor giving somebody an explanation on their life
based on the way that the cardsare being read, can change at a
moment's notice based on that person's freewill. Well, the cards that you're
dealt in this system are fixed.They're not going to change. You can't
change them. But every card hasa high and low expression and a lot
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of very of different expressions in betweenthose two extremes. Okay, So for
example, on nine of Hearts.For example, if you had a nine
of Hearts show up and you're yearlyspread. If you're married, it could
mean you get divorced. However,if you're single, it could mean that
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you get married because it means theend of something related to your relationships hearts
or relationships, right, and nineis the ending. Nine is the last
number. It's considered the last number, So you get a nine of hearts.
It all depends on your situation.Like I mean, you may not
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get divorced when you have a nineof hearts because you may be very happily
married. That's not going to happen. But you might have a death in
the family, a death of apet or somebody leaves, or you sell
your house. There's all kinds.There's a lot of room for variety,
but not infinite. It's not infinite, you know what I mean. So
it's enough that you can really kindof get a good idea, especially if
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you have an important question about whatyou want to do or think might happen
in the future. It can bevery very helpful. Stand by, Robert,
You and I have to take ourfinal break for this hour, and
excellnation. My guest this hour isRobert Lee Camp. And if you'd like
to find out more about Robert,maybe you'd like to contact him for a
one on one consultation, or maybeyou'd like to buy one of his books
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for Christmas. Very simple, goto his website seven thunders dot com.
This is the X one, IMRob McConnell and we're coming to you on
the XON Broadcast Network and from ourbroadcast center in studios in St. Catherine's,
Ontario, Canada, on Classic twelvetwenty, Classic twelve twenty. This
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is a raja right right, youknow rajah No, I don't, well,
they know me down at the policestations. But who like that keeps
eving like that? It's kind ofrecording. All Hey, recording. That's
good, you're being recorded. Yes, that's great. I want everybody here,
but pretty sure i'd be real famous. That's true. I'm going to
jusultee, so God, he's gonnatake me his way of spaceship UFO.
(43:42):
You better believe it's everywhere. Everybodywho see that, people who have seen
them all around the world. Well, that's great, that's right. And
I've brought less the police officers andthe scientists and ordinary people that talk about
the UFOs, so they too existand I know all about it. I'm
gonna get followists. I'm the numberone scientist on this planet. I'm gonna
sell you on them. Is okay? You love? I say no,
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but I'm gonna have to go.I got others grain. It's fund with
relativity, so I don't have timeto hear Einstein relative, but it's very
simple. He does he do inP square? Yeah, I'm trying.
Okay, you manuel E from theside to me. The second title's elementary
like you wasn't I say? Itwas a cheer. I'm a Jew.
It's very few people in the worldthat should him. That's right. I'm
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an engineer, I'm an electrician,a plumber, everything. I could do
anything. So that's when it's theone the world's greatest entertainer. I'm worth
about fifty million dollars a year.You're like, I gotta go, and
you say, okay, God blessyou. I'll buy my good light,
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hide h wine, bluesy showers linein the vans, foil to feel good
(45:20):
showers line on them And welcome backeveryone. Robert Lee Camp is my special
guest of this hour here in theX Zona, and the X Zone is
coming to you on your hometown radioClassic twelve twenty and that's www. Dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA in SaintCatharines, Ontario, Canada. First of
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all, Robert, I want tothank you so much for coming on the
show. It's been a great andentertaining an educational hour here and I'm sure
people from now on who have listenedto the show tonight will not look at
their deck of cards the same wayas they did before. You've been on
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Maury Polvich. I understand Rosanna Show, Marylou Henters and thousands of other shows,
And what is the reaction you getfrom these people when you explain to
them what your deck of cards toyou. I did radio shows. I
did like I did over a thousandradio shows, really, and they would
have people call in and I wouldgive them readings and these people would call
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back and they would just be blownaway when the stuff that I told them
might happen actually came true. Soall the DJs started calling me mister Destiny,
mister Destiny. So it was fun. It was a lot of fun.
We used to do we used todo. Yeah, we used to
do Collins as well. But becauseour show spans the world different time zones,
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it's very hard for us to dolive call ins anymore. Because I
understand because here we are in SaintCatharines, Ontario, where it's let me
see, approximately ten seventeen pm EasternTime, and if we were to actually,
you know, when the show wasbroadcast in other countries, other time
zones, it would be impossible.So as much as I really would love
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to have callers come a callback sothat they could interact with you, guys,
yeah, it's a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun.
So where do you see Where doyou see the future? When you
look at your cards, you knowwe're coming up to the beginning of twenty
twenty four in a couple of weeks, have you looked at what could possibly?
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What? I pay attention to alot is different celebrities because their lives
are more or less wide open forus to look at, and a lot
of them are calling the shots aboutthings happening in the world. Right,
So I look at people like,you know, the presidents of nations and
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uh and other celebrities too. Ifind it very interesting. I still learn
a lot from from looking at people'scards and watching what happens to them.
So you know, I've looked atI think I might have mentioned this to
you before on a previous show,But Zelensky of of Ukraine and Putin and
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uh Gping of China are all thesame card. All these guys are the
two of Diamonds card, which isa very very clever card and one that's
very prone to lying a lot.Really yeah, I mean they's just like
there. I mean, especially lookat you look at Putin and Gping.
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Everything they say is a lie.It's just like constant lying. But it
happens with people too, Like whenI meet it two of Diamonds, I'm
always a little bit I take itslow with them until I find out what
side of the of the deck they'reon there with with this, because it's
a tendency for that particular card tonot be honest. What is the most
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frequent question you get asked when youwhen you meet and greet people and they
ask you for reading. Well,you know, when I'm out and about
and I like go to a restaurant, I always ask the waiter or waitress
what their birthday is, and Imight just tell them a few things about
themselves just to kind of you know, or like if I love babies,
I love to see babies, andI'll ask people what their baby's birthday is,
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and I'll give them a little thinglike, oh, your kids,
your kid's going to be a genius. You know, some birthdays are like
genius birthdays and things of that.Now, oh, your kid's going to
be very creative. You know,you should encourage them to do art because
this kid is going to be extremelycreative. And don't give him drugs,
don't give him ADHDA drugs and soforth, things like that. You know.
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Yeah, But you know, asfar as questions, people always just
want to know the same things theywant know about their money, about their
health, and about their love life. You know. All right here,
I'm going to ask you about twocelebrities, Okay, sure. Number one,
President Joe Biden. Joe Biden isa king of hearts and he's a
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Scorpio king of heart, so he'sa power guy. Boy. He I
mean, he's orchestrated this whole thingagainst against Trump, you know, and
it's working. I mean, he'sgood that his particular birthday, is extremely
good at legal stuff, and heknows the power that he has and the
legal things. But being a kingof hearts, king of hearts, men,
they always have a harem. That'swhy he's picked all these women to
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be in his in his in hisgroup, right, and that's why he
also has trouble keeping his hands offthe girls. Yeah, and you know,
he's really old now, so he'skind of harmless. But you know,
I looked at his cards and Ithe feeling I get is he's not
going to really want to be presidentagain. And I think he will.
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I think he will sabotage himself unconsciouslybecause I don't think he's really going to
want to run. I don't thinkhe's really going to want to be president
again after this term, and thenthere is the opposite side of that coin,
President Donald J. Trump. Yeah, he has some very very hard
legal cards this year. But it'sa very strange combination of cards he had
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that could flip things around for him. So things could flip for him in
a really good way now that he'sout of this one period, his Mars
period where he had really bad legalcards. He had really bad legal cards,
and you could tell he was goingthrough a lot of crap, you
know. So we'll see, youknow, it's probably going to be him
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and Biden. I wish there wassomebody else to pick from. I mean,
as I have said on my ownpodcast, like why don't we have
heroes anymore? Why don't we havepeople that we can look up to in
our them in anymore, you know, or role models or something. Well,
all we have is a bunch ofcrooks, you know. Anyway,
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as far as Trump, now,I know Trump wants to win, So
we'll just have to see. Hehas to get through this year first,
and it's a little undecided at thispoint. Sometimes it's very clear who's going
to win, and other times it'snot. And usually it's not. It's
usually very complicated. Actually, youknow, my wife and I live here
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in Saint Catharine's. We're back herein Saint Catherines after thirty years of doing
the show on different networks and doingdifferent TV appearances and working with different TV
producers on their shows. And wherewe are now where just as stones throw
away from the Meridian Center. Andlast year we went to see Jeff Dunham
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the ventriloquist. Oh yeah, Ilove that. He is great and it's
amazing the resemble between his little personWalter oh yeah, and President Oh I
know, it looks just like Biden. It's true, that's right, he
does. He has that squint yeah, squinting. I think he did a
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bit with Walter on stage where hehad sunglasses on Walter. Oh, and
he looks just like oh my,just like Biden. Oh my, good
gracious, Oh my, good gracious. I guess the final celebrity I'm going
to ask you about now is isis Jesus. He was born on December
the twenty fifth. Allegedly, Wellthere nobody, nobody really believes he was
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born on December twenty fifth. Ithink they have dates that they've kind of
looked back at what planetary alignment wouldbe would be the Star of Bethlehem that
was seen, you know. AndI don't remember what the what the most
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accurate date was for his birthday,but he was definitely the one who ushered
in what was called the Age ofPisces. Now we talk about the Age
of Aquarius, right, yes,we do. So there's a new age
every two thousand years. This iscalled the precession of the Equinoxes. So
we have just entered the Age ofAquarius. But he ushered in the age
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of Pisces, which is the signof the Savior and the victim. The
victim and the Savior is Pisces.Like people that are pisces are always trying
to save other people, right,They're very sensitive to other people's pain and
so forth. So now so wedon't really know what his birthday was,
but he definitely he definitely acted outthe whole pisc and thing. So it's
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highly likely he was a Pisce's tobe honest, Robert, we've got about
two minutes left. I was wonderingif you have a special message at this
time of year for the members ofthe ex Owe nation listening around the world
tonight here on Classic twelve twenty,Well, you know, I have been
watching a lot of nd videos lately. I don't know if you've talked about
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on your show or had any gueststhat have had your death experiences, but
I find it to be amazing,and it just gives a whole sense of
like it's everything's okay, Everything's goingto be fine, you know, God,
everything is being orchestrated behind the scenesfor everybody's best and highest good,
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and there's nothing really to be worriedabout, nothing to really be And when
these people come back from ndds,they completely lose their fear of death.
Yes they do, you know,and like they kind of look forward to
it, you know, because whenthey were there, they were absolutely home.
They were at the home of homes. So you know, if you
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haven't watched any of those, Ijust recommend that to people. I tell
a lot of people about it becauseI get I'm getting so much out of
it myself. Robert. The wayI look at death is that we are
just like caterpillars in this existence thatwe're in, this part of reality,
that as we come to our end, we too build a cocoon, and
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in that cocoon comes to the metamorphosiswhere we where the caterpillar is turned into
a butterfly, and I really believethat as we get ready to pass on,
we too make a metamorphosis and lifecontinues in another way, another manner
on the other side. Yeah,yeah, that's what they say. That's
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what these people say, Robert.I want to thank you ever so much
for coming on the show. Toyou and your family the very best of
the season, and I hope tohave you back on in the show in
the new year so we can talkmore about this fascinating information that you shared
with us tonight using the Camp cards. I love that. Thank you,
Rob. I appreciate that you takecare of your such a mad expression to
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my friends. You can use itwith my compliments. Okay, thanks Rob,
Good night, Robert. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you,
sir. Yeah, thank you,take care all right, excellnation. Robert
Lee Camp has been my guest thishour seven Thunders dot Com. Well,
I'll be back tomorrow night at teno'clock. At eleven o'clock is once again
we cross the time space continuum tothis place that I call the X zone,
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a place for people dare to believeand dare to be heard. And
you're listening to us on Classic twelvetwenty Classic twelve twenty dot until tomorrow,
keep your eyes to the sky andyour heart to the light. Goodnight,
Oh, Henry, Welcome to theX Zone, a place where fact is
fiction and fiction is reality. Nowhere's your host, rob Ricconnell to in
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that thing YouTube bringing the heart intoa million pieces like you always do.
He don't need to be cool andgood evening and welcome back to the x
(00:54):
soone. I am Rob McConnell,and we're coming to you from our broadcast
center in studios in Saint Catherine's,Ontario, Canada, on your hometown Radio
Classic twelve twenty www dot Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. The Xton is a
place where people dared to believe anddear to be heard. The x oone
is a place where fact is fictionand fiction is reality. And you're listening
(01:17):
to us. As I said onyour hometown Radio Classic twelve twenty, our
first guest tonight XON Nation is RobertLee Camp and we're going to talk to
Robert about astrology. So joining menow from North Carolina is Robert Lee Camp
and Robert, welcome back to theX Zone. Always great having you with
us, sir. Well, thanksRob, it's great to be here.
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Please have a good time here.Yeah. For the listeners who may not
have had the opportunity of listening toyou here on the show. Before tell
us a little bit about yourself.Well, about thirty years ago, I
was started studying astrology. It waslike a hobby. And in the process
of that, a friend of mineintroduced me to a book that was written
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in the nineteen forties and it wasn'tastrology, but it was like astrology.
It had a description of every birthdayof the year, but instead of being
a sign, you are a cardin the deck. And so I looked
up my birthday. She said,hey, check this out. What do
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you think? And I looked upmy birthday and I saw that I was
a Queen of Diamonds. That wasmy card, and I read what she
wrote about it, and it wasjust so stunningly accurate. It blew my
mind. And what really blew mymind about it was that there were eight
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birthdays that had the same card asme, and I just could not understand
because with astrology it's very particular.You know, it's the time, the
place, and the date that goesinto determining your charge and so forth.
But this was just like more accuratethan anything I had read in astrology,
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more specific, and I couldn't believethat there were eight of the birthdays,
and it didn't matter what year.By the way, any year of that
birthday would have the same card.But it described my life perfectly, and
that just got me started with thisand I've been doing it ever since.
Basically, that's basically the story.Now, what is the difference between the
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deck of cards that you use comparedto a playing deck of cards with fifty
two cards and four different suits,Well, it is the deck of playing
cards, so I'm actually referring toThat's what was mentioned in this book,
And as I did more research init, there were other books that I
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came upon eventually where they talked abouthow the deck of cards had been around.
Well, the first book ever writtenabout this system that's connected to the
deck of playing cards was written ineighteen ninety four, and the man that
wrote that book said that this systemhad been around since the days of Atlantis,
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and that you know, it hadbeen kept secret for a really long
time because the Earth kind of wentthrough a really dark age period of history
where you would have been burned atthe stake or killed for even talking about
such things. You mentioned a birthcard, Well, what is my birth
card, for example? And whatcan it tell me about myself and my
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life. Yeah, so I'm sorry, Rob, I don't remember your birthday.
Can you tell me again your birthday? Sure, it's April twenty seven,
Okay, April twenty seven. Sothere's basically two cards for most people.
But there's the main one, whichis a birth card, and your
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birth card is the Seven of Clubs. Clubs is a suit of knowledge.
Okay. Now seven is very particularbecause it sets right in the center of
the suit. So if you ifyou lay all the cards out from the
ace to the king, in thevery center of the suit is the seven.
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So the seven has what is calledone foot in the mundane world and
one foot in the spiritual realm.And so people that are seven's, they
often have an amazing gift, youmight say, and yours would be the
gift of the mind. Like,for example, ex President Clinton is the
(05:35):
seven o' clubs. Robin Williams wasthe Seven of Clubs. They they you
know, I wasn't so prominently knownwith Clinton, but Robin Williams was a
comedic genius. Well I actually methim in person, did a reading for
his wife once, and he justlike channels comedy, you know, and
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so set have that the Seven ofClubs has that ability to tap into this
really high level of spiritual or otherworldlyknowledge, and then the other side is
the mundane side. And so theygo back and forth from feeling like they're
just connected to the whole universe,and then they can get really down and
kind of depressed a little bit whenthey go to the opposite side and they
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kind of swing back and forth overthe course of their lifetime. Fascinating And
that is so true. That isthat is so true. Yeah, And
they have a desire to most Sevenof Clubs have a strong desire to make
a name for themselves, to becomemore prominent, famous, or whatever you
want to call it. But it'sinherent in all of them. So it's
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it's called the card of spiritual knowledge. Actually is the most flattering term that
use for it. Maybe that's whyI love this job so much. Yeah,
I mean, you're doing exactly whatseven our Clubs would do in its
highest expression, you know, justdoing exactly that. So from what I'm
seeing, if somebody has a problemunderstanding or trying to figure out where they
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would best fit in not only society, but in the job world, that
is out there. This method wouldbe very very helpful to them. Oh
yeah, you know it. Itgives a non judgmental look at your life
and a person's life and their therethe karma that they will experience in this
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lifetime. And it shows them theirgifts, and it shows them their challenges
and and you know, I've helpedso many people like find the right career
path or just just to be ableto accept themselves. You know, it's
so funny, like if your kidis a is a three uh of any
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suit or a five, they're goingto be diagnosed as ADHD. They're going
to be diagnosis bipolar because their energyis just so scattered. It's a creative
energy actually, And but that's whathappened. That's what we do in today's
society. We just throw a labelat them and give them drugs. You
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know. Yeah, it's a loteasier than understanding what the problem is and
then working on the problem. Yeah, or just letting them be exactly are
you know, letting them be whothey are? You know, you and
I aren't that very far apart inour age. And I cannot remember,
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you know, ten fifteen, twentyyears ago, every hearing about ADHD exactly.
It's it's you know, it's justall these that's just a that's just
like a thing about our society.You know, we've we've just gone into
this this place where we just wantto throw a label on something so we
can feel safe, you know.And it's it's very confusing for anybody out
(09:05):
there because you know, here you'vegot people saying, don't do drugs,
and then a young child who isdiagnosed with ADHD has given ridlin, which
is a derivative of cocaine. Yeah, and other drugs too, I mean,
other non you know, antidepressants,keep their moods in check. It's
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it's all, it's all madness,don't you think. I think I think
it's very hard to be a kidthese days. Yeah. You know.
Our grandson the other day was hereand my wife was writing something on the
counter, and my grandson's nine orten, and he said, you know
(09:46):
how to write, grandma? Andshe said, of course, son,
Well can you teach me? Becausethey don't teach kids script and ascribe in
school anymore. No kidding, No, I have no idea. Yeah,
you know, like you've got aniPhone, you've got an iPad, you've
got a computer. What do youneed to learn how to write for?
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And and then my my big argumentis as well, what happens when the
Internet goes down? Guys? Youknow we've seen this happen before. Yeah,
well, I mean just just myown personal life, you know,
when the internet's gone down. Yeah, there's been periods where I just like
kind of like start to freak out. You know, one thing that I
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learned very early in my radio careeris you always have a hard lined telephone
line no matter where you are,because as long as you've got a copper
line, you can always do yourradio show. Oh yeah, the over
the topone system. Yeah, it'sa great life if you don't weaken my
friend. And I always believe thatif you're not part of the solution,
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you're part of the problem. Andthere's too many people today who stick their
head in the sand and would ratherbe a bicycle rack than to somebody,
than somebody who actually wants to workon a solution, because problems, when
you try to solve them, actuallytake time, dedication, and you have
to be compassionate. And a lotof people these days, like I said,
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iPhone, I have this and thatand the other thing, Well,
the intention. I think the attentionspan has really gotten really short, you
know, because of all the mediaand everything. We just can't stand I
mean, I just look around,we run. We just went on a
cruise for Thanksgiving? Are how nice? Nice? And you know here we
are here, we are in atropical paradise, right on a beach.
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Yeah, you know, it's eightydegrees sunny, the water's warm. People
are sitting around on their phone.Well, go to a family restaurant these
days and see the families instead ofcommunicating talking discussing life and or their family,
or what their dreams and aspirations are, they're on their iPhones. Yeah,
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it's true. It's ridiculous. Itis totally ridiculous. Yeah, it's
a crazy world that we live inthese days. It sure. As I
remember going to school, my parentsgave me the form of communication known as
a dime because if you needed help, you found a payphone and you called.
Mind you, the operator was free, So you just kept that dime
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in case you needed to get mumor somebody to come and pick you up
at school. Yeah. Yeah,how does how come you don't use the
the the different tarot cards in yourprofession? That you've decided to stick with
the tried and true fifty two deck. Well, it turns out that only
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the tried and true fifty two deckis the one that actually matches perfectly the
calendar of the Earth. Really,yes, I mean it's it's this is
what's really amazing. When people hearthis, they just they're blown away by
this because you never hear about this, right, but you know, I
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mean, there's fifty two weeks ina debt in a car in a year,
and that that could be a coincidence, right, it could be.
And then you look at the factthat there's thirteen cards in each suit,
and there's thirteen full moons every year, you know, thirteen lunar cycles.
Right. Then you have the twocollars red and black for day and night.
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You have the four suits which otherfour seasons. But then the really
kicker is when you take all thecards in the deck and add up the
number of value of each card.Well, I've got to take a commercial
break, so let's have a bitof a clip. I youn here,
my friend and Robert. I wantto thank you so much for joining us.
What's the website our listeners can goto to find out more about you
seven Thunders, the number seven andthe word thunders dot com. Robert Lee
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Camp and I will return on theother side of this break as we continue
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and welcome to the excellent everyone.My name is Rob McConnell and we're
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Classic twelve twenty dot CA. RobertRobert Lee Camp is my special guest this
hour. And first of all,Robert, thanks very much. And we
played the fifth dimensions Age of Aquariuscoming back into this and I love that.
Yeah, I love that. Withyour deck of cards, we're with
these traditional deck of cards. Arethere different houses as well? Or no,
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there's not houses like there is thereare planetary periods, like every year
has seven planetary periods, each isfifty two days long. And these these
periods have cards in them that arecalculated from birth. We don't shovele cards
at all. We don't. Thisis not like a tarot deck where you
shuffle them and do a reading.This is every card for your whole life
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is laid out by the day ofyour birth, and so every year you
have cards that tell you what's goingto happen, what who's going to happen
with? And when it's going tohappen. Now, before we go into
the break, we were just discussingdifferent aspects of the fifty two card of
deck. For example, the fiftytwo weeks of a year, the es
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let me see the thirteen phases ofthe moon, Yeah, and thirteen cards
in need suit. Yeah. Butthe real kicker is when you add up
all the cards in the deck wherethe ace is one, help to the
ten, Jack is eleven, Queenis twelve, King is thirteen. When
you add up the entire deck,it adds up to three hundred and sixty
five. Wow. That is noother deck does that. No other card
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system, the tarot decks don't dothat. This is the only one that's
mathematically connected to the Earth's calendar.Basically, it's like holding the Earth's calendar
in your hand when you're holding adeck of cards. Now, it certainly
doesn't seem to be a coincidence.It's not a coincidence. No. And
so the agents that originally taught thisor originated this system, they knew that
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there was a way to predict people'sfate with this and to also understand people's
personalities and their life karma and such, and so it was for millennia.
It was really considered a very secretiveand spiritual system that was only known by
a few, and there was asecret order called the Order of the Magi
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that maintained it throughout the dark agesand so forth. So now that we
are in this age of Aquarius,by the way, and the age of
Aquarius is definitely here. Aquarius rulesastrology rules internet connected technology. So what
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we're seeing now is is all thisaquarium stuff in our world which we didn't
see before, Like we had aresurgence of opening up again to all this
astrology and things of that nature,and we see this this whole thing,
like computers and astrology are actually governedby the same houses and signs in astrology,
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which is interesting, you know,yes it is. How does that
work? Well, every sign,every house that there's twelve houses in a
zodiac, and there's twelve signs,every house is ruled by one of these
every house as a ruler that's asign actually, So the eleventh house is
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the house of Aquarius, and it'sruled by the planet Uranus, and Uranus
is the lord basically the lord ofAquarius, the planet that rules Aquarius.
So it just turns out that theeleventh House and Aquarius is all about like
people coming together and being one,and it's all about like futuristic technology,
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and it's all about astrology and thesemystic sciences I call them mystic sciences that
require like a really quick mind tounderstand. It's the best way I can
put it. It's a little bithard to explain, but that's the best
I can come up with. Canyou use the traditional tarot cards along with
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the fifty two? What do wecall it? It just can't be the
deck of playing cards or it hasto be something more elaborate to it.
Well, the first book published wascalled the Mystic Test Book test to ESD,
the Mystic test Book, the Mysticdebt, he said, because the
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system can be tested, you know, that was what he said. But
the actual system doesn't have an officialtitle. I call it the science of
the cards. Some people call itcardology. I never liked that word cardology,
so I never adopted debt myself.But you know, whatever, you
can call it whatever you want,but it is the mystic science connected to
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the deck of cards. I thinkwe should call it the camp deck.
The camp deck, Well, Iappreciate the photo confidence there. Well,
you know, because it makes alot of sense, and it seems a
lot simpler to understand than the traditionalastrological readings that you get or the tarot
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card readings that you get. Andeverybody is aware of the the basis of
the camp deck of guards. Yeah, they're all. They're all familiar with
it. So so if you wereto take the camp deck, I like
that camp dick, Yeah, andcompare it to an astrological reading or a
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tarot reading, how similar would theybe? Well, astrology and this system,
this card system are closely connected.Actually, so I do both when
I do personal readings, Okay,for clients, I combine. I was
already doing astrology when I came uponthis system. So I've just basically blended
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these two together, and it's beenquite quite good to use them together.
You can't actually do a direct correlationbetween the two systems, but if you
know them both, you get tosee that they're connected. These two systems
are connected because they both use astrologicalLike if you know astrology, if you
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know the meaning of the planets andthe signs, then it helps you with
this system because it uses the planetsand signs. Also, it doesn't use
houses, but it used planets andsigns. You have a Mercury card,
you have a Venus card, youhave like in your personal lifespread. There's
a spread of like seventeen cards thatare what's called the lifespread, and it's
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that spread. Basically, it determineskind of gives you an overview of your
whole life. And in that lifespread, you have a Mercury card, a
Venus card, a Mars card toJupiter, Saturn, you're in this Neptune,
Pluto, and a couple of othersthat really define all the different departments
of your life and what your particularkarma is in those different areas. So
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they're very similar. You can't mixthem up together, but they blend together
quite well. When it comes torelationships. I'm sure you've get a lot
of questions about that. Of course, when it comes to using the Camp
deck, how would you how wouldyou understand or how would you read a
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relationship question? Well, every twocards in the deck have they do have
an existing relationship with each other.That's determined. Actually, it's kind of
hard to describe without showing it toyou. But when all the fifty two
cards are laid out, there's aspecial layout called the Grand Solar spread.
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And when all the cards are laidout in this Grand Solar spread, they
seem to be sort of randomly placedall around this, but they're basically end
up in seven lines and seven columnsof cards with three cards to very top.
So you have seven times seven,which is forty nine plus these three
at the top. Now, therelationship between cards is determined by how many
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spaces they are apart from each other, Okay, and it's extremely accurate.
I mean, I can tell you. You can give me any two birthdays
and I can tell you what theirrelationship is like because just by knowing what
the meaning is, how what whattheir can we call it connections that they
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have and the connections that derive againfrom how far apart they are in this
Grand Soldier spread that I'm referring to. The name of your website is seven
thunders dot com. And you wrotea book called the Book of seven Thunders.
That's right. What's the correlation andwhat are the seven thunders? So
there's a there's a passage in inthe in the Bible in Revelations chapter ten,
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where the there's an angel and itsaid the man is about to he
basically devours the seven thunders and theangels holding a book in her hand,
and he's about ready to he's aboutready to prophecy from after he had devoured
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this book of the seven Thunders.Seven thunders represents the seven planets, and
and back then there was only thefive visible planets and the Sun and moon.
So it's been seven planets for areally long time. Okay, there
wasn't like eight planets or whatever.We couldn't they hadn't discovered Uran, Thiss
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and Neptune at that point, justSaturn all the way to Saturn, and
the Sun and moon made seven.And the days of the week are named
after these five planets in the Sunand moon. You're aware of that,
right, yes, yeah. Sothe little Book of the seventh Thunders is
the book that the angel held inher hand. They had all the secrets
of the universe in that book,and he had devoured it, and he
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was about ready to. He wasabout ready to start prophesying. And they
said, seal up those things,utter the seven thunders, and write them
not. Do not write about them. But they said, there will come
a time when you will you willprophecy to nations and kings and so forth,
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but it's going to come later inhistory. So the man that wrote
this book in eighteen ninety four,he said that was their invocation to keep
this knowledge sacred and to keep itsecret until the time was right. And
he said the publication of this bookin eighteen ninety four was when the time
was right to make this knowledge public. Before then, nobody knew. Nobody
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knew this even existed, that therewas any correlation between the calendar and the
cards and all these things that youcan derive from it, nobody knew about
it. I remember there being asong about a soldier playing with a deck
of cards in church and he wascourt martialed. And I can't remember what
it is, but I've got Craigtrying to find it to see if we
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can play. It's called it adeck of cars, and it was by
what's his name? It's a countryWestern guy. Crap h. If you
look it up, it's really easyto find. Just look up deca cards.
We were just looking in our inour audio library and we don't have
it. Oh maybe we do,He says, it's on YouTube. Whatever.
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All right, stand by, We'vegot to take our break and when
we come back more with Robert LeeCamp Seventhunders dot com is the website.
This is the Xzone. I amRob McConnell and we're coming to you from
our broadcast center and studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, on your hometown
Radio Classic twelve twenty Classic twelve twentydot CA. I'm Rob McConnell and welcome
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to the X Zone, a placewhere fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
Today on the X Zone, theGreat Lakes Triangle of North America,
found in the heartline of North America. These landlocked yet connected lakes, which
eventually empty into the Atlantic Ocean,had become the scene of more mysteries involving
ships, aircraft, people, UFOghosts, and vandomships than the Bermuda Triangle,
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one sixteenth the size of the BermudaTriangle. Lady John Grave Simcoe was
the first European to chronicle the strangeorbes of life that have been seen above
and blow the waters of Lake Ontario. First Canadians tell of great cities which
surrounded the Great Lakes, where menflew without wings. The Great Lakes Triangle
of North America one of the world'sgreatest mysteries, right in our own backyard.
Friends. This is text Ritter witha strange story about a soldier boy
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and a deck of cards. Duringthe North African Campaign, a bunch of
soldier boys had been on a longhike and they arrived in a little town
called Casino. The next morning,being Sunday, several of the boys went
to church. A sergeant commanded theboys in church, and after the chaplain
had read the prayer, the textwas taken up. Next, those of
the boys who had a the prayerbook took them out. But this one
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boy only had a deck of cards, and so he spread them out.
The sergeant saw the cards and said, soldier, put away those cards.
At the services were over, thesoldier was taken prisoner and brought before the
provost Marshal. The marshal said,sergeant, why have you brought this man
here for playing cards in church?Sir? And what have you to say
for yourself? Son? Much sir, replied the soldier. The marshal said,
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I hope so, for if not, I shall punish you more than
any man was ever punished the soldiersaid, Sir, I have been on
a march for about six days,and I had neither Bible nor prayer book.
But I hope to satisfy you,sir, with the purity of my
intentions. But that the boy startedhis story, you see, Sir.
When I look at the ace,it reminds me that there is but one
God. And the deuce reminds methat the Bible is divided into two parts,
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the Old and the New test Andwhen I see the tray, I
think of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. When I
see the four, I think ofthe four evangelists who preached the Gospel,
Matthew, Mark, Luke, andJohn. And when I see the five,
it reminds me of the five wisevirgins who trim their lamps. There's
ten of them. Five were wiseand were saved, five were foolish and
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were shut out. And when Isee the six, it reminds me that
in six days God made this greatheaven and earth. Want to see the
seven it reminds me that on theseventh day, God rested from his great
work. Want to see the eighth. I think of the eight righteous persons
God saved when he destroyed this earth. There was Noah, his wife,
their three sons, and their wives. And when I see the nine,
I think of the lepers, oursavior cleans and nine of the tin didn't
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even think. Want to see theTen? I think of the ten commandments
God handed down the Moses on atable of stone. Want to see the
King? It reminds me there isbut one king of heaven, God O
mine, and whant to see theQueen? I think of the blessed Virgin
Mary, who is Queen of heaven. And the jack, our name is
the devil. When I count thenumbers of spots on a deck of cards,
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I find three hundred and sixty fivethe number of days in a year.
Fifty two cards the number of weeksin a year. There's four suits,
the number of weeks in a month. There's twelve picture cards the number
of months in a year. There'sthirteen tricks, the number of weeks in
a quarter. So you see,sir, my pack of cards serve me
as a bible all my neck andprayer book. Friends. I know this
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story is true because I knew thatsoldier in the side sat Oh here,
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freaky people need not apply. SoI'm to my hero, but behlf and
a winnen to ask you why.He said you look like a fine I'm
standing young man. You do,so I took up like how to say
imagine that be work be and welcomeback everyone. This is the Excellon Radio
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Show with your shiry Rob McConnell onyour hometown radio Classic twelve twenty www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Anddon't forget. You can always send me
an email telling me your story isabout the paranormal, whether you're a skeptic
or a believer. If you'd liketo tell us your comments about a show
that we've done, or if you'dlike to have somebody come on the show,
send me an email. X Zoneat Classic twelve twenty dot ca.
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A. Robert Lee Camp is ourspecial guest seven Thunders dot com And Robert,
that was the song that you andI were talking about in the previous
segment. It's a Deck of Cardsby Tex Ritter And uh wow, yeah,
it's pretty. It's pretty amazing,isn't it? Like that? It
was known somewhat by the by theaverage person, but it really, uh
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really it kind of escaped the attentionof most people. How do you feel
when you hear that song, andknowing what you know about the cards and
about the hidden power or hidden foresightthat these cards actually hold, it made
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me smile. It made me,It made me very happy to listen to
that song. That you hear thatsong again. And I caught I caught
something that I hadn't caught before atthe very end when he said I knew
that soldier. I never heard ofthat before. For some reason, I
thought that was very interesting that thathe said that he knew that soldier and
he met that soldier. Whatever,that's pretty cool, you said earlier in
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the hour of that these cards camefrom Atlantis. That's what Oldie Richmond said.
The only Richmond is the man whowrote that first book that was ever
published to reveal the science behind thissystem. Ken said that can these cards,
and we're talking about the playing cardsthat everybody has seen, who plays
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Uker, who plays kidnasked up Poker, and who goes to Las Vegas and
loses their shirts? Can they foretellthe future? Oh? Absolutely? I
mean, so you have you havetwo different things. You have you have
this understand you have actually three things. The deck. First of all,
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you get to know, you getto read about yourself and learn about yourself
from a different perspective, your lifetimekarma, like we talked about earlier,
your strengths, your weaknesses, thethings you'll probably experience, like for example,
Queen of Clubs women A many ofthem lose a child in their lifetime,
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and the Queen of Clubs is knownas the mother Mary Card who lost
her son Jesus. So women whoare my mother is the Queen of Clubs
and we lost she lost, welost a baby. I had a younger
brother who was three years old andhe died when he was three and a
half years old. He had abirth defect and so forth. So this
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is very common. But there's thesepatterns that are there for all, for
all, every different birthday. Sopeople get to understand themselves. Then they
get to see the relationships they havewith other other cards and the people and
their families and so forth, andthen they get to look at the aspect
where they can look at their future. You can look at your past because
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it has your it has your wholelife. There it goes up to as
long as you live. In mybook, I go up to age one
hundred. But you can go fartherthan that. If you know how,
you can look if somebody lives pastedon here, and you can look past
one hundred to see what's going tohappen. But there are cards for every
single month of your life that arealready in the book, calculated by a
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special algorithm from your moment of birth. You know, we're coming to the
Christmas season, and a deck ofcards with your book, I believe would
be a great Christmas gift for everyone. Well, yeah, I mean I
wrote these books. I started thirtyyears ago, and I thought, well,
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I don't want to make this likesome kind of esoteric system that people
can't relate to or something I wantedit to. I really my intention was
that it could be used by anybody, because it actually is a very easy
system to learn. It's probably theeasiest one of all to learn. It's
way easier than astrology. I cantell you that astrology takes a really a
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certain kind of a mindset to reallylearn it. And this system anybody can
learn it, and you can.You can learn to do readings in less
than like a half an hour.You know, it looks your system is
simplicity in a complicated world. Yeah, it's it becomes like a like it
becomes like a friend, like acounsel that you referred to, because as
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you go through the years and yousee the cards and you start to realize,
oh, wow, these cards arereally accurate. You know, you
start to really get it, like, well, I really should pay attention
to what the cards are saying.And you start paying more attention, and
it helps you make decisions about thingsin your life. It helps you decide,
oh, should I expand my business? Is this a good year for
that? Or should I hold back? Should I move? All these kinds
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of questions get answered by looking andseeing what the influences are coming up.
And it's it's just amazing. It'sit's stunningly accurate. Actually it's it's just
so I can say, you haveto try it to see for yourself.
Let me ask you this. Letme ask you this, my friend,
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if you're sitting down playing cards withsomeone, okay, the cards that they
throw out, if you know themeaning of these cards, will you be
able to read that person? Well, you mean like and I can win
the game? You mean like that? Well, for example, if you're
playing I don't know poker, forno, that's no good because you can't.
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You don't. Somebody doesn't have todo that. There are some card
games where you have to show yourcard, okay, one at a time.
So if I'm sitting there and I'mthe person who's showing the cards on
my side, and you're on theother side of the table, whichever aspect
or whichever whichever way I get ridof my cards, would you be able
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to read that and tell from thecards that I've got that I'm showing what
kind of person I am. Notnecessarily, but you know what I do,
which is much much easier. Ijust ask everybody what their birthday is,
and then I know everything about them. Yeah, that's why you do
that, and I do this,So I looked at the way of doing
it. I just take the easyroute as a formula that you can learn
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in your head, and you aperson can tell you their birthday and you
can calculate their card their birth card, and you can know so much about
them. It's just it's fascinating.You know. It does give you a
certain amount of an edge in negotiatingthat I would imagine, so dealing with
them because you know what their tendenciesare. But how does free will affect
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the cards because when reading a cardor giving somebody an explanation on their life
based on the way that the cardsare being read, can change at a
moment's notice based on that person's freewill. Well, the cards that you're
dealt in this system are fixed.They're not going to change. You can't
change them. But every card hasa high and low expression and a lot
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of very of different expressions in betweenthose two extremes. Okay, So for
example, on nine of Hearts.For example, if you had a nine
of Hearts show up and you're yearlyspread. If you're married, it could
mean you get divorced. However,if you're single, it could mean that
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you get married because it means theend of something related to your relationships hearts
or relationships, right, and nineis the ending. Nine is the last
number. It's considered the last number, So you get a nine of hearts.
It all depends on your situation.Like I mean, you may not
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get divorced when you have a nineof hearts because you may be very happily
married. That's not going to happen. But you might have a death in
the family, a death of apet or somebody leaves, or you sell
your house. There's all kinds.There's a lot of room for variety,
but not infinite. It's not infinite, you know what I mean. So
it's enough that you can really kindof get a good idea, especially if
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you have an important question about whatyou want to do or think might happen
in the future. It can bevery very helpful. Stand by, Robert,
You and I have to take ourfinal break for this hour, and
excellnation. My guest this hour isRobert Lee Camp. And if you'd like
to find out more about Robert,maybe you'd like to contact him for a
one on one consultation, or maybeyou'd like to buy one of his books
(42:43):
for Christmas. Very simple, goto his website seven thunders dot com.
This is the X one, IMRob McConnell and we're coming to you on
the XON Broadcast Network and from ourbroadcast center in studios in St. Catherine's,
Ontario, Canada, on Classic twelvetwenty, Classic twelve twenty. This
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they know me down at the policestations. But who like that keeps
eving like that? It's kind ofrecording. All Hey, recording. That's
good, you're being recorded. Yes, that's great. I want everybody here,
but pretty sure i'd be real famous. That's true. I'm going to
jusultee, so God, he's gonnatake me his way of spaceship UFO.
(43:42):
You better believe it's everywhere. Everybodywho see that, people who have seen
them all around the world. Well, that's great, that's right. And
I've brought less the police officers andthe scientists and ordinary people that talk about
the UFOs, so they too existand I know all about it. I'm
gonna get followists. I'm the numberone scientist on this planet. I'm gonna
sell you on them. Is okay? You love? I say no,
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but I'm gonna have to go.I got others grain. It's fund with
relativity, so I don't have timeto hear Einstein relative, but it's very
simple. He does he do inP square? Yeah, I'm trying.
Okay, you manuel E from theside to me. The second title's elementary
like you wasn't I say? Itwas a cheer. I'm a Jew.
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an engineer, I'm an electrician,a plumber, everything. I could do
anything. So that's when it's theone the world's greatest entertainer. I'm worth
about fifty million dollars a year.You're like, I gotta go, and
you say, okay, God blessyou. I'll buy my good light,
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hide h wine, bluesy showers linein the vans, foil to feel good
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showers line on them And welcome backeveryone. Robert Lee Camp is my special
guest of this hour here in theX Zona, and the X Zone is
coming to you on your hometown radioClassic twelve twenty and that's www. Dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA in SaintCatharines, Ontario, Canada. First of
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all, Robert, I want tothank you so much for coming on the
show. It's been a great andentertaining an educational hour here and I'm sure
people from now on who have listenedto the show tonight will not look at
their deck of cards the same wayas they did before. You've been on
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Maury Polvich. I understand Rosanna Show, Marylou Henters and thousands of other shows,
And what is the reaction you getfrom these people when you explain to
them what your deck of cards toyou. I did radio shows. I
did like I did over a thousandradio shows, really, and they would
have people call in and I wouldgive them readings and these people would call
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back and they would just be blownaway when the stuff that I told them
might happen actually came true. Soall the DJs started calling me mister Destiny,
mister Destiny. So it was fun. It was a lot of fun.
We used to do we used todo. Yeah, we used to
do Collins as well. But becauseour show spans the world different time zones,
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it's very hard for us to dolive call ins anymore. Because I
understand because here we are in SaintCatharines, Ontario, where it's let me
see, approximately ten seventeen pm EasternTime, and if we were to actually,
you know, when the show wasbroadcast in other countries, other time
zones, it would be impossible.So as much as I really would love
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to have callers come a callback sothat they could interact with you, guys,
yeah, it's a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun.
So where do you see Where doyou see the future? When you
look at your cards, you knowwe're coming up to the beginning of twenty
twenty four in a couple of weeks, have you looked at what could possibly?
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What? I pay attention to alot is different celebrities because their lives
are more or less wide open forus to look at, and a lot
of them are calling the shots aboutthings happening in the world. Right,
So I look at people like,you know, the presidents of nations and
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uh and other celebrities too. Ifind it very interesting. I still learn
a lot from from looking at people'scards and watching what happens to them.
So you know, I've looked atI think I might have mentioned this to
you before on a previous show,But Zelensky of of Ukraine and Putin and
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uh Gping of China are all thesame card. All these guys are the
two of Diamonds card, which isa very very clever card and one that's
very prone to lying a lot.Really yeah, I mean they's just like
there. I mean, especially lookat you look at Putin and Gping.
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Everything they say is a lie.It's just like constant lying. But it
happens with people too, Like whenI meet it two of Diamonds, I'm
always a little bit I take itslow with them until I find out what
side of the of the deck they'reon there with with this, because it's
a tendency for that particular card tonot be honest. What is the most
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frequent question you get asked when youwhen you meet and greet people and they
ask you for reading. Well,you know, when I'm out and about
and I like go to a restaurant, I always ask the waiter or waitress
what their birthday is, and Imight just tell them a few things about
themselves just to kind of you know, or like if I love babies,
I love to see babies, andI'll ask people what their baby's birthday is,
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and I'll give them a little thinglike, oh, your kids,
your kid's going to be a genius. You know, some birthdays are like
genius birthdays and things of that.Now, oh, your kid's going to
be very creative. You know,you should encourage them to do art because
this kid is going to be extremelycreative. And don't give him drugs,
don't give him ADHDA drugs and soforth, things like that. You know.
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Yeah, But you know, asfar as questions, people always just
want to know the same things theywant know about their money, about their
health, and about their love life. You know. All right here,
I'm going to ask you about twocelebrities, Okay, sure. Number one,
President Joe Biden. Joe Biden isa king of hearts and he's a
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Scorpio king of heart, so he'sa power guy. Boy. He I
mean, he's orchestrated this whole thingagainst against Trump, you know, and
it's working. I mean, he'sgood that his particular birthday, is extremely
good at legal stuff, and heknows the power that he has and the
legal things. But being a kingof hearts, king of hearts, men,
they always have a harem. That'swhy he's picked all these women to
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be in his in his in hisgroup, right, and that's why he
also has trouble keeping his hands offthe girls. Yeah, and you know,
he's really old now, so he'skind of harmless. But you know,
I looked at his cards and Ithe feeling I get is he's not
going to really want to be presidentagain. And I think he will.
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I think he will sabotage himself unconsciouslybecause I don't think he's really going to
want to run. I don't thinkhe's really going to want to be president
again after this term, and thenthere is the opposite side of that coin,
President Donald J. Trump. Yeah, he has some very very hard
legal cards this year. But it'sa very strange combination of cards he had
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that could flip things around for him. So things could flip for him in
a really good way now that he'sout of this one period, his Mars
period where he had really bad legalcards. He had really bad legal cards,
and you could tell he was goingthrough a lot of crap, you
know. So we'll see, youknow, it's probably going to be him
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and Biden. I wish there wassomebody else to pick from. I mean,
as I have said on my ownpodcast, like why don't we have
heroes anymore? Why don't we havepeople that we can look up to in
our them in anymore, you know, or role models or something. Well,
all we have is a bunch ofcrooks, you know. Anyway,
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as far as Trump, now,I know Trump wants to win, So
we'll just have to see. Hehas to get through this year first,
and it's a little undecided at thispoint. Sometimes it's very clear who's going
to win, and other times it'snot. And usually it's not. It's
usually very complicated. Actually, youknow, my wife and I live here
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in Saint Catharine's. We're back herein Saint Catherines after thirty years of doing
the show on different networks and doingdifferent TV appearances and working with different TV
producers on their shows. And wherewe are now where just as stones throw
away from the Meridian Center. Andlast year we went to see Jeff Dunham
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the ventriloquist. Oh yeah, Ilove that. He is great and it's
amazing the resemble between his little personWalter oh yeah, and President Oh I
know, it looks just like Biden. It's true, that's right, he
does. He has that squint yeah, squinting. I think he did a
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bit with Walter on stage where hehad sunglasses on Walter. Oh, and
he looks just like oh my,just like Biden. Oh my, good
gracious, Oh my, good gracious. I guess the final celebrity I'm going
to ask you about now is isis Jesus. He was born on December
the twenty fifth. Allegedly, Wellthere nobody, nobody really believes he was
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born on December twenty fifth. Ithink they have dates that they've kind of
looked back at what planetary alignment wouldbe would be the Star of Bethlehem that
was seen, you know. AndI don't remember what the what the most
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accurate date was for his birthday,but he was definitely the one who ushered
in what was called the Age ofPisces. Now we talk about the Age
of Aquarius, right, yes,we do. So there's a new age
every two thousand years. This iscalled the precession of the Equinoxes. So
we have just entered the Age ofAquarius. But he ushered in the age
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of Pisces, which is the signof the Savior and the victim. The
victim and the Savior is Pisces.Like people that are pisces are always trying
to save other people, right,They're very sensitive to other people's pain and
so forth. So now so wedon't really know what his birthday was,
but he definitely he definitely acted outthe whole pisc and thing. So it's
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highly likely he was a Pisce's tobe honest, Robert, we've got about
two minutes left. I was wonderingif you have a special message at this
time of year for the members ofthe ex Owe nation listening around the world
tonight here on Classic twelve twenty,Well, you know, I have been
watching a lot of nd videos lately. I don't know if you've talked about
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on your show or had any gueststhat have had your death experiences, but
I find it to be amazing,and it just gives a whole sense of
like it's everything's okay, Everything's goingto be fine, you know, God,
everything is being orchestrated behind the scenesfor everybody's best and highest good,
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and there's nothing really to be worriedabout, nothing to really be And when
these people come back from ndds,they completely lose their fear of death.
Yes they do, you know,and like they kind of look forward to
it, you know, because whenthey were there, they were absolutely home.
They were at the home of homes. So you know, if you
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haven't watched any of those, Ijust recommend that to people. I tell
a lot of people about it becauseI get I'm getting so much out of
it myself. Robert. The wayI look at death is that we are
just like caterpillars in this existence thatwe're in, this part of reality,
that as we come to our end, we too build a cocoon, and
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in that cocoon comes to the metamorphosiswhere we where the caterpillar is turned into
a butterfly, and I really believethat as we get ready to pass on,
we too make a metamorphosis and lifecontinues in another way, another manner
on the other side. Yeah,yeah, that's what they say. That's
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what these people say, Robert.I want to thank you ever so much
for coming on the show. Toyou and your family the very best of
the season, and I hope tohave you back on in the show in
the new year so we can talkmore about this fascinating information that you shared
with us tonight using the Camp cards. I love that. Thank you,
Rob. I appreciate that you takecare of your such a mad expression to
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my friends. You can use itwith my compliments. Okay, thanks Rob,
Good night, Robert. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you,
sir. Yeah, thank you,take care all right, excellnation. Robert
Lee Camp has been my guest thishour seven Thunders dot Com. Well,
I'll be back tomorrow night at teno'clock. At eleven o'clock is once again
we cross the time space continuum tothis place that I call the X zone,
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a place for people dare to believeand dare to be heard. And
you're listening to us on Classic twelvetwenty Classic twelve twenty dot until tomorrow,
keep your eyes to the sky andyour heart to the light. Goodnight,
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