January 30, 2024 • 57 mins
In 2012, during travelling in another country, S Jones discovered (from a room mate) she would constantly sleep talk. This led Jones to investigate what she was dreaming about at night, from here she discovered the endless entertainment of dreams for the first time in her late twenties. One of the dreams would involve her living a whole life as a man, up until his 40s. One day, Jones shifted her conciousness and found herself in interstellar space in a space vehicle with a heightened IQ and around 3,000 years in the future. This is one of a hundred stories that Jones shares in her "I SAW THE FUTURE" book. Jones started creating a dream journal to track their dreams in 2013. Within five years of focusing on her dreams, Jones was recalling up to five dreams a night. This led to many meditation sessions where Jones was able to shift consciousness into another being in the future. Jones shares this dream journal for purchase for others to benefit from, see "How to remember your dreams".
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Hello everyone. This is UFO researcherand author Preston Bennett. Here to wish
Rob McConnell and all the listeners andviewers the worldwide X Zone nation a wonderful
and happy holidays all, Henriy.Welcome to the X Zone, a place
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where fact is fiction and fiction isreality. Now here's your host, Rob
McConnell in that thing bringing into amillion pieces black you always do. And
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Welcome to the xone every one.I am Rob McConnell, and for the
next hour I'm your host and yourguide. Us Together we cross the time
space continuum to this place that Icall the x xone. The X Zone
is a place where people dare tobelieve and dare to be heard. It's
a place where fact is fiction andfiction is reality. And we come to
Monday through Friday at eleven pm fromour broadcast center and studios in Saint Catherine's,
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Ontario, Canada, on your hometownradio Classic twelve twenty and streamed around
the world on Classic twelve twenty dotCA. My guest this hour is Sophie
Jones, and we're going to betalking to Sophie about out of body experiences.
We're going to be talking to Sophieabout dreams as well as her new
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book that has just come out.It's called I Saw the Future. I
Saw the Future, and one ofthe comments here on the book is and
it was a beautiful, infinite instantknowledge in the milliseconds and unthinkable technology.
Talk to Sophie about that later on, because this would be a great Christmas
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gift everyone, Sophie, welcome tothe X song. Hello Rah, how
are you? I'm doing great?Thank you, and tell us a little
bit about yourself, and we're yourinterest in dreams Orb's ease. Where does
all this come from? Yeah,So I've had spontaneous out of body experiences
since I can remember, and Ialways tried to controul it as a very
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young girl, and I kind ofgot out of it when I was in
my teens. And when I wentto Australia to live for a year,
I actually discovers I slept talk.So I started to record my dreams and
then that led me to writing mydreams down, and then I started to
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train myself to remember more, tothe point of which I was remembering four
five a night, and then afterthat I started to have all these experiences
which I could remember because I hadtrained that dream recall. So that's what
led me to create the book.Now, you have had experiences that include
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other beings, yes, UFOs,men in black, and so many other
topics that people talk about but manydon't believe. So let me ask you
about your your UFO experience. Tellus about that. Okay, So me
and my brother, I think wewere around I can't remember it off at
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the top of my head now,say like seven eight years old, very
young, and we were sat ontop of the top bunk bed looking out
of the window and at the citywe were in, and we were just
talking and I said to my brother, I said, Danie, look at
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that up in the sky, becauseall of a sudden I could see a
pattern of lights in I said,oh my god, it's a UFO.
And he said, don't be ridiculous, Sophie. So we climbed down off
of the bunk bed and went tolook at it closer, and it was
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patterns of light and it was justhovering up in the sky, and then
all of a sudden, the splitof a second jumped to one side of
the sky and then jumped to thenext side of the sky. And then
back again. So my brother screamed, and then I screamed, because of
course he was ridiculed in me initially, so we ran downstairs to my parents
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and they were like, don't beridiculous, she never saw anything. So
I put it to the back ofmy mind. And then in my twenties
I spoke to a friend and Isaid he was telling me about how he
disowned his mother because she believed inUFOs. And I said, well,
what does she see? And hesaid and he described basically the same thing
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I saw. And I said whenwas this? And it would have been
the same year that I saw theUFO and she was actually in the newspaper
for seeing the same thing I saw. So then I wrung up my brother
and I said, do you rememberwhen we saw that ufo? And he
said, yeah, I do,and we still remember it, but we
always put it in to the backof our head because it was always,
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oh, you're young, you're justmaking things up. And ironically where it
would have been positioned, because Iwrong with my dad and said, what
did that overlook? And he saidit was the Navy, the Navy dockyard,
which does house nuclear submarines. Wow, have you had any other UFO
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experiences since that sighting. Yeah,so I haven't actually seen any UFOs in
the sky since that sighting, butI've witnessed through my dreams or my meditation.
Because I started getting big into meditation, I actually stopped it all because
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of I'm seeing something very bad.But I'll get into that later. So
I actually wrote the book because oneday I was meditating and just in the
split second, my consciousness shifted.It sounds, and I was just aware
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that I was, all of asudden in this interstellar spaceship, which would
be obviously class as a UFO.But on top of that, my brain
changed. Usually, when you meditateand you go somewhere or you have a
lucid dream, you keep your ownself so you're aware of yourself. You're
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aware, you know the way youthink and everything. But this was different,
all of a sudden, because I'mnot that great with maths, all
of a sudden, I was awareof every single mathematical equation that could be
used to construct the spaceship that Iwas traveling in. And I looked,
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I looked down the corridor in Ijust I was aware of all the mechanics
to how it had been created,and I was in a silver suit and
I had a bob. I don'tknow why I had a bob, and
I was just super intelligent. Andthen I thought, hang on, I'm
supposed to be Sophia Jones. Whatam I doing into seller spaceship? Because
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I just knew it was interstella andall of a sudden, then split for
a second, I could see allthe history of the Earth, and I
was like whoa. And at thatpoint I came back out of meditation because
it was just so overwhelming. Andthen when I came out of it,
I was like, oh my god, I feel so stupid, Like was
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that what a genius felt like?Because it was just incredible. And then
I've seen other beings as well,which I like because it's that crossover,
right. Is it an alien?Is it an entity that's crossing over from
another dimension? Or is it aUFO? Have you always been interested in
these type of genres? Yes,yeah, So there will periods in my
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life where I come out of it. For example, I actually stopped meditating
in twenty nineteen and just started againrecently. When I was in my late
teens, I stopped being interested init, but yes, I've always been
interested in it my dad. Mydad is able to control his projections at
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will, so we always used totry and train me. But he didn't
realize it was a thing called actualprojection. He just thought it was just
the mind in My mum has alwaysbeen able to have spontaneous ones where she
just flies above the city. Theydidn't really understand what it was, but
I always wanted to research these things. I wanted to know is esp real?
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Can it be achieved? So Ialways put time an effort into doing
it. What was it like growingup in a home where you had parents
who openly discussed and encouraged you toto open yourself up to so many different
possibilities. Yeah, so my dadwas always of the opinion you can do
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anything you want. Everything is possible, right, So he would actually train
me on what's it called putting myselfin a state of deep relaxation, because
you would say things like when yougo to sleep at night, you can
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ask a question and your subconscious mindwill give you the answer. Right.
So I was always very focused onIf I wanted something, I'd always focus
on it. So I've got it. My mum was very much into spiritual
things such as like you know,what are your in signs? What your
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astrology? But there were a verymodern family. You wouldn't have thought unless
you like from the outside, youwould not think they were that way.
But my mom and dad saw aghost actually, and they thought it was
me. We used to live inthis old Victorian house. This isn't in
the book. We used to livein the o this old Victoria Victorian house.
And one day my mum came outto the bathroom and she saw this
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little girl and she said, Sophie, because I was only three years old
at the time, what are youdoing? Get back to bed, and
she said all also, and thegirl turned into what would have been the
old doorway for a bathroom, whichthey actually bought it up. So she
thought, hang on a set,this girl was just floated into a war.
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And then she realized that the girlwas wearing like a little floaty dress,
and I used to wear pajamas,so she realized it wasn't me,
so she freaked out. And thenmy dad saw the exat same thing.
And then when we moved out ofthat promises, my uncle moved in and
he because he always ridiculed them,and took the mix for them seeing that
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little girl ghost. And then onenight he went to the kitchen to get
a drink and when he turned around, there was this man stood in the
doorway of the kitchen just looking athim, and he said, he thought,
oh my god, and he justclosed his eyes and walked through the
man and he said it was allkilled. And he went back to bed,
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and he actually he sawed the flatshortly after. Yeah, he just
can't believe it. He never ridiculedthem again. But this is the thing,
right, you can never believe somethinguntil you've had that experience. In
I unless I wrote all these experiencesdown, some of the experiences I had,
I'm like, oh my god,yeah I remember that. And I'm
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like, so I really have that, but I know I had it because
I wrote it down. So forSampo, I saw this being that actually
led to me stop wanting to writemy dreams down because I used to share
dreams with people. Yes, SoI don't know if you want me to
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get onto that topic now. Well, I think what we're going to do
is we're going to take a commercialbreak, Sophie, and when we come
back, let's talk about that dreamand I want to talk to you about
men in black, I want totalk to you about time travel, shared
dreaming, and so much more xoanation. Our guess this hour is Sophie
Jones. Her website is dream Recallerdot com. And Sophie and I will
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be back on the other side ofthis very short break as the exone continues
with yours truly, Rob McConnell fromour broadcast center in the Saint Catherine's,
Ontario, Canada, and you're listeningto us on Classic twelve twenty, your
hometown radio, and we're streamed aroundthe world at www dot Classic twelve twenty
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dot ca A dot co. Waywill be back on the other side of
this break. Hi, Merry Christmas, Robin the listeners. This is Patty
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Freeman. I'm a hypnotist from Hypnosisby Patty. I've been a guest frequently
on your program and my webs atis www dot Hypnosis by Patty dot Com.
I just want to wish everyone inyour listeners and viewers the more well
excellent, a very merry Christmas anda happy New Year. Chris right,
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this is the evening News. Let'sgo down to our field. Reporter Bernaldo
Riviera. This is Redawdo Riviera onthe banks of the stinky Mothery River with
mister R. V. Frisbee willcling to that whitney something truly fantastic,
mister Frisbee. Could you tell uswhat you saw? Yeah, I just
hunkered down over putting a stink waiteon my trot line and the short hairs
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that stood straight out on the backof my neck. And I turned around.
There's this big armstrang them purple lightson. It comes so whooping over
them pine trees and just hoovered overthe window bag over Heinie's run out and
throw the skilly that it and thenshe scissored and run back in up on
the hide of bed. About thattime, little trap door opened up,
little stairsteps come down. This littlepink ball headed guy stuck his head out.
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Now I've seen that movie Close toEncounters. I just walking over as
big as I and looked up andthere and there he was there who was
soelve a cent lavin high acu.You imagine that seeing Elvis in the UFO
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explanation. Sophie Jones is our specialguest and her website is Dreamrecaller dot com.
And you're listening to the X ZoneRadio show with yours truly, Rob
McConnell. Frown your hometown Radio Classictwelve twenty streamed around the world on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. If you'dlike to send me an email that you'd
like us to pass on to aguest, or maybe there's a special guest
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you would like us to have onthe show, or maybe you just want
to send a friendly little note tous very simple email address, x Zone
at twelve twenty dot CA. Sophie, you were just about to tell us
about. Yeah, so have youever had a dream where you actually had
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the same dream as somebody else?Not that I'm aware of, Okay,
So basically what happened was, whenI was starting to build up my dream
recall, I started speaking to mycolleague about my dreams, and then he
started sharing his dreams with me.And I actually gave him because I wrote
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another book which enabled people to buildup their dream recall, because I wrote
it for myself just because I selfishlywanted to record dreams in a certain way,
So I gave him a copy.So we would us every morning what
dreams we had, and we startedand notice that actually sometimes that would be
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very similar. So what we didis we would write down our dreams and
we would swap dreams without telling eachother and look for similarities before discussing them.
And it would always like obviously notall the time, but the majority
of the time. I actually becausewe were building up this connection, I
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was able to discuss how I waswatching like a film his dream and here
were a report always seeing like alike a shadow in a distance, watching
if I was in it. Sothe idea was we always went to bed
at the same time every night,and then we would be in the same
dream, so like aled together.So one night I didn't go to sleep
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at the usual time and I justwanted to meditate. So I'm there meditating
and all of a sudden, Ifelt this, like I can only just
like it's like a real eerie sense, you know what I mean? Not
really you ever had like somebody's watchingyou that eerie sense? No, okay,
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so you have to just imagine itthen, So I have this sense.
So I look into the corridor andI kid you not, I saw
a premantispon and it was just likeas where we're seeing it. It was
just this intense feeling of like pure, like like it wanted to rip out
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my soul, just like hatred.So I kind of like looked back to
my left and then looked back again, and the thing was moving closer to
me, and I was like,hang on, like what the hell?
This is as clear as day.So the bloody thing manifested itself in this
real, in this in our reality. So I kind of like slapped myself
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in the face because I thought,am I asleep? And I wasn't.
I was wide awake. So Ijust like had this intense fear and I
don't know why I did it,but I just got up the courage and
I went like f off to itis angrily as I could. So I
was shaken. So I wrung upmy dad and I was like, Dad,
you won't believe what I've just saw. And he was like, oh
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my god, you do not tellanyone about that. He's like, do
not tell anyone. He's like,that's like sorcerer, like it's actually like
it's been conjured, Like I don'tknow why that's actually come into the real
like that. He's like, donot ever in your life tell anyone about
that. So I did not sleep. I drew what I saw, and
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in the morning when I went intowork, I've obviously got the dream off
of my colleague and gave him thebit of paper. And his dream was
that he had a dream where thisprey amount is being but he described it
as a stick in set demon wasslashing all his tents and he said,
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Sophie, you're dreaming right now,come and save me. And a goddamn
thing came to me, and thephysical could be that the praying Manchester that
you saw was an awaking dream andwasn't there at all. That's what I
thought. But I wrung my dadand he remembered me calling him as clear
as day. What has been theweirdest dream you've ever had, Sophie.
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Oh, that's a good one.So many of them, the weird,
the weirdest. Yeah, the wildest, Oh I actually had. I've actually
had dreams within dreams, so Ihad I think it was the Chinese or
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Japanese mafia would chase me. AndI woke up and then I was in
my friend's house and I went downstairsto the kitchen and we actually started talking
about how we were having a dream, and then we're like, oh my
god, we had the same dream. That's so weird. And then I
went and got ready and then wewere walking down the street and I woke
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up, and that's it. That'syour weirdest dream. Well, there's just
so many of them, like theso the one that you mentioned earlier,
that solving the equation for simultaneously atsystem and more than ones. I mentioned
that once. That one was prettyweird. So basically I was with a
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bunch of dream characters and we solvedthat equation and it was on the board,
black and white on the board,and all of a sudden, these
characters jumped in and started chasing usall and then I woke up from it
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and a demon was trying to pullme off of the bed. And at
this point in my life, Ihad never had sleep polarisis okay, so
I didn't. I never believed people, because that's the thing, right,
unless you have the experiences, youdon't tend to believe it to what happened
to you. And yeah, theyjust wanted to writ mysel out well it
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and I woke up like in adeep, deep, deep state of panic.
It was just horrendous. And that'sactually one of the things that stopped
me because as you start to rememberyour dreams more, you go more down
into that rabbit hole, you actuallystart to have these really super weird experiences.
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Yeah, and then I saw menin black and later dreams. Now,
the men in black that you sawwere in a dream. But have
you ever have you ever had thefeeling that you're being followed because of your
charismatic approach to life and the bookthat you've written. Ah, No,
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I think I think there would betoo many people out there to justify spending
resources. So yeah, there wouldbe too many people out there that have
the same experience as me to justifyspent getting people to follow me. If
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that makes sense. Sure, Okay, then let me ask you what has
been the longest dream you've ever had? Oh? I had one that went
on for forty years. Okay,explain that to me. Okay, So
basically, I was a guy andI was an accountant, and I like,
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oh my god, it was anotherend. And I remember even looking
up at the clock and seeing likehe was waiting for it to hit five
so he could leave his accountant's job. I remember like him meet and his
wife, like nights in having afamily, and then even to the fat
the last part of the dream waswhen it was his daughter's twenty first birthday
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and he was just like just soproud that he had created this beautiful being
and oh my gosh, she's twentyone, like, and then I woke
up, So yeah, I rememberedevery single hour, like all of his
life. And at the time,I don't know, I would have been
what twenty six, twenty seven,And I was like, how the hell
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if I had a dream that's lastedforty years and I'm not even that over
myself. So the forty year dreamwas actually in one night, yes,
okay, So how do we howdo we explain that or how do we
try to rationalize that that you goto sleep, let's say at ten o'clock
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at night. Yep, Well,while you're sleeping, you actually have a
dream that in the dream world isforty years long, and you wake up
the next morning and you're still thesame twenty six year old young lady,
and that the time has never progressed. How do we explain it? It's
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a very weird feeling. But inthe other dimensions, time is nonlinear,
right, so it's not the sameconcept as us as this whole you know,
start and end. It's all sporatic, so there is no That's why
in our dimension quite often people thatare classified as psychic or they have these
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weird experiences, they have the abilityto go in and pick a time and
bring it back. So in theother dimension, as I said, time
is nonlinear, so therefore it's alreadyhappened, so you can go in and
you can bring these things back.So there's an interesting report actually that I
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recommend you read, which I can'tI can't remember what title of it or
who it's written by, but it'sI have to to get out. And
basically, we are a mass inWhat enables you to see right now is
your perception of where you are,and if you shift that mass, you
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can go in a monkst Basically,you can split your consciousness and come out
of it and then tap into theother dimension. It's just at this moment
in time, you're sat there rightnow, Rob and you've got this thing
in front of you. You've gotyour X Y coordinates. But if you
can become aware that you're mass andyou split that consciousness and jump, you
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can get into the other dimensions.And that's where, like I said,
time isn't the same concept as itis in this dimension. So you believe
that time travel is real? Yes, all right, let's talk about that
when we come back from our commercialbreak explanation. I guess this hour is
Sophie Jones. Her website is dreamRecaller dot com, and Sophie and I
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will be back on the other sideof this break as the exone continues with
here's truly Rob McConnell from our broadcastcenter and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario,
Canada, on your hometown radio,Classic twelve twenty, and we're streaming
around the world at Classic twelve twentydot ca A. Whatever you do,
don't go away. Sophie and Iwill return talking more about well dreams,
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time travel, UFOs and much more. Don't go away, head, don't
say guys, I don't be bitif this out and out of Spain jumping.
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This is Rob McConnell wishing each andevery one of you a very,
very merry Christmas and a happy,healthy, prosperous New Year. From our
home to yours, love, lightand spirituality today and every day from this
day forward. Merry Christmas everyone.You always say that you wanna be for
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you and welcome back every one.Talking with our guests this hour Sophie Jones.
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Her website is dream Recaller dot com. And I'm Rob McConnell. This
is the xon We're coming to youon your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and
streamed around the world on Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. A tell us about
time travel and why you think timetravel is real. Yeah, so I've
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had dreams where I travel, butobviously that's not in this reality. I
just believe that everything that is dueto happen has already happened. Yeah,
it's a hard one because I can'tsay specifically why, but I just feel
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it is like I've gone into futurelife and I've gone into past life.
So that's why I believe time travelis able to be hard, if that
makes sense. I believe away ableto send our consciousness across different timelines.
So actually, from what I'm understanding, Sophie, is that all the topics
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that you discuss and that you've discussedwith us so far have occurred only in
your dreams. No, all right, what hasn't occurred in your dreams?
Then? Okay, so the meditationexperiences haven't occurred in my dreams because I'm
meditative experiences. So I'm fully connejust sat up, not dreaman. I've
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had this one weird occurrence. Sohave you ever heard of Inglo's swan?
A what dear Ingo Swan? Tellme what that is? Okay, So
he's like the number one remote viewow in the world. Unfortunately he died,
so he's no longer with us.Oh I see Schwan. No,
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we haven't better where I've had RussellTargon a number of times, and he's
the gentleman who taught the CIA Bramoteviewing. Yeah, so Ingo was like
the number one in the world.He even could tell things about Jupiter before
they were even able to verify it. So he was like a brilliant man.
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And I remember watching one of thosetalks and he was saying that you
could communicate with alien beans, andI thought, really, so I've I
sat down and I said, ifthere's an alien out there, I want
I want you to come and havea cup of team with me and have
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chat. So I kind of justsat there thinking this, and then when
I stopped doing it, I thought, oh my god, this is so
silly. I can't believe I'm doingthis. But because Inglo said you could
do it, I was like,I'm just going to try it, Like
what I for gott to lose?So then that same not I went to
sleep and then I woke up andthere was a knockout the door at three
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am, and I was like,oh my god, like, who the
hell is that? And I totallyforgot I had done this. And then
they didn't press the door after thatone time, and then they just walked
back to their car. And thenit wasn't till in the morning that I
thought, ah, yeah, Idid. I did that thing, Inglo,
and it always made me wonder,and it wasn't in my dreams because
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my partner who I was with atthe time, he had the doorbell and
he was like, I ain't goingup okay, hold on here, let
me just let me just back uphere, because I think I lost something
in the interpretation of the dream.You heard, and you heard it and
the doorbell went off at three o'clockin the morning, did you actually go
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down and answer the door? No. I went to the window and looked
because I was scared. Okay,And what was it that you saw or
who was it that you saw?Someone? Because it was dark, someone
it looked like with the hoodie up, and then they just walked back to
their car, okay, and thensat and then disappeared. And to put
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it into perspective, this place thatI was living at the time, like
nobody ever pressed that doorbell because itwas very remote and it was very hidden.
So for someone to come three o'clockin the morning and press that doorbell,
it was unheard of because even ifI would have deliveries, they would
struggle to find me or struggle tofind the doorbell. Even so, it
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was like a rare occurrence, likethe only time that someone's ever pushed the
doorbell on the whole five years Ilived there at the time. All right,
So what makes you believe that thisperson who rang your doorbell at three
o'clock in the morning was an alien? Because Ingo Swan said that aliens had
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the some had the ability to walkamongst us, right, And he said
if he wanted to have communication withthem, he would relax his mind and
he would just politely ask them,if there's an alien out there, alien
being, right now, will youcome and have a conversation? I see,
And he said if they wanted to, they would just pop up and
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they would then just teleperfectly have acommunication with him. So this this being
that you believe was an alien,got back into his car, Yeah,
and just drove off. So theycould have just learned. Let me ask
you. Let me ask you thisbecause I might. I have to keep
on going with my train of thoughthere. Why would an alien use a
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car instead of a UFO because it'sthe type that walks amongst us. I'm
just okay, And have you seenin your waking life in this reality,
in this dimension? Yeah, aliensfrom another planet or another galaxy. Not
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well, I've described that promantis thatcame me, but not out in a
monkst No, why do you thinkthat you have been given the ability to
do what you do? See whatyou see? I don't think it's me
specifically. I just think it's becauseI've put the time and effort into recalling
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my dreams. Because I think ifevery single person in the world started to
remember every single dream that they werehaving every night, they would actually have
experiences like I had. So yeah, I think that's what it is.
Okay, So, how do weknow that the experiences that you're experiencing when
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you're sleeping, when you're dreaming haveanything to do with reality, Well,
you don't, but it's my reality. So any person's reality is their own
reality. We can never tell themwhat to think or what to do.
It's their reality, their their themselvesright. They can only go by their
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own experiences. So if somebody feelssomething, and we make someone feel something,
it's not our reality. It couldnot be our reality to make them
feel that way, but in theirown reality, they're feeling that way.
So unfortunately, everyone's got their ownreality, everyone's got their own experiences.
And that's where it's very important forpeople to actually write their own dreams down
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and start to do this, becausethen they can make that informed decision.
It has crossed over into other people. For example, my auntie wanted me
to come to this workshop with herbecause I was taking a friend to meet
her to go with her, andI didn't want to go to the workshop,
and they ended up begging me tocome in with them. So I'm
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in this spiritual workshop and they're teachinghow to be claravoyant, and I have
no interest in that. Even thoughI'm into dreaming, I have no interest
in claravoyance or anything. So I'msat there and they're going around a group
and you had to look at theperson in front of you and say you
had to imagine someone on the benchand then describe who you saw. So
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I get to this last lady becauseI'm like, oh, I just want
to go home. And I sawthis man, this like beefy stocky man,
come in blonde and sit on thebench, and long story cuts short,
who I described to her was herex boyfriend. And I also had
this like this year come into mybrain and I saw this woman being beat
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up by a man. So Isaid a year to her and what I
saw, and she started crying becauseher daughter had like died from being beaten
up. So the whole work shotthen went into chaos because she was so
upset. And then they shouted atme. I was like, I was
just saying what came into my mindas I was told to do it,
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and they like, you shouldn't saynegative stuff. I was like, I'm
just saying what came into my mind. So that's the time when it's crossed
over to someone else in the physicaland I haven't been asleep. Does that
make sense, Yeah, it does, it does, But I you know,
what is the difference then, betweenwhat you see your dreaming and clairvoyance.
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Ah, so I'm not a clairvoyanceso like I'm the worst person to
ask, but I should imagine.And this is just me making it up,
like because you've asked me the question, I should imagine. Clairvoyance technically
is the same thing, because you'rechanneling into the other dimension, right You're
tapping that other dimension. It's justthat they're yes speaking to someone and then
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they're able to tap into it whilstthey're talking. So if I was clairvoyant,
if I was a clairvoyant person rightnow and I'm talking to you in
I don't know, they do something, they'll be able to enter into that
same dimension. Is when you dreamand gather information that they need and then
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it comes through them. I don'tknow. Like with me, when I
close my eyes and they told meto do it, it was literally I
visually saw something. But I knowfrom speaking to people that they have like
where they hear where they feel.You have different senses, right, So
yeah, that's what I imagine,and it's the same place. Well,
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because when you're when you're asleep andyou're dreaming, you have the sense of
smell, you have the sense oftouch. You have the exact same perceptions
that a person who is clairvoyant has. And this is why I think that
we're you know, it's it's thesame thing that we're discussing. Yeah,
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yeah, you and I have totake our break, our final break for
this hour exponation. When we comeback, I'd like to talk to you
about your vision of the future andhave you ever gone to the future?
And have you ever gone to thepast? So please stand by Sophie an
excell nation. Sophie Jones is ourguest. She has a new book out
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called I Saw the Future and itsaid where's your book available Sophie Amazon?
That plain that simple And if you'dlike to find out more about Sophie,
her website is dream Recaller dot com. I'll be back as the X Zone
continues. After all, this isa place where fact is fiction and fiction
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is reality. When we come toyou Monday through Friday at eleven pm Eastern
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twentyand streamed around the world on Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. I'm Rob McConnell. We'll be backed Uncleways you always say
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that you want to be Fred youwould baby so many times to Booth.
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This is Rob McConnell wishing each andevery one of you a very, very
merry Christmas and a happy, healthy, prosperous New Year. From our home
to yours, love, light andspirituality today and every day from this day
forward. Merry Christmas everyone. Wellit just got back from Roswell where the
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aliens have been. And if youask the Feds the cars, well,
they'll only lie again. Now I'mhunted by the gum shoes and I'm hunted
by the cops because they think thatI might be the guy making circles in
the crys. And I know thatthere's a conspiracy from the voices in my
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head Elvis lives. That's clear tome. It's McCartney who is dead.
And if the mars Man should comeagain and take me, I will go.
I will take a trip on theirrocket ship. God bless the UFOL
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give JFK this message. It's theCuban Army fault, and I know that
Dave Koresh is alive inside the fault. We've seen reports in papers of the
guy who knows about on a carthat runs on chewing gum. But the
Arabs rubbed him out loudly. Onethat America is badly hungred bad. The
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called wye bro. We need somethingnew that can get you good and scare
you. Wonder just who who iswanting you of conspiracies today? We're the
ones who fill the room. Weare the see Welcome back to the excellent
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everyone. Sophie Jones is our guestthis hour. Sophie is the author of
I Saw the Future. It's availableon Amazon dot com. Sophie, what
does the future look like you like? Yeah? So I think in the
future we have infinite intelligence and asplit of a second, we will be
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interstellar species. We will be travelingthrough space and yeah, that's what I
think the future looks like. Ithink we'd be able to master There are
minds a lot more. What doyou think about karma? Oh, yeah,
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believe in karma. So I believeyou should basically try to have as
many positive experiences as you can withpeople. And like, have you ever
had you ever met someone and youjust instantly dislike them or they just instantly
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dislike you and it's nothing that youhave done to that person, They just
are horrible to you. Yes,I have, Yes, So I believe
that I have a little bit ofa Buddhist monk mentality on this. So
I believe that in your past livesyou've had negative interactions, and then when
you come forward in the future,that's why you have that interaction with that
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person, because although you've done nothingin this life, you've had a negative
reaction with them in a past life, and subconsciously that's why they are a
little bit like negative towards you,because they consciously don't know, but they're
unconscious feels it. If that makessense. What is your thoughts on reincarnation.
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I believe that we are reincarnated againand again to learn lessons. I've
actually I've actually gone into a fewpast lives and I've gone into a future
life. What's your future life like? So my next one, I'm born
in Africa and I die when I'mnineteen, so I actually get into electronics
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and then I go to a universityand then when I'm nineteen a year into
university and not dying, and let'sgo back in time. What have you
been in the past? Just boringthings really like nothing outside. Yeah,
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it was quite often military type LIFESIwas just interesting because I wouldn't go into
the military in this life, andthen I was barred because I get migraines.
But yeah, it's mainly military life, just boring standard of the meal
in your past LIFs, Sophie,have you been a dream recaller? Ah?
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Yeah, So I believe that ifyou have skills, any skill you
develop carries over into the next life. And this is why it's some people
are good at certain things one hundredpercent. Yeah. I would have remembered
my dreams and I would have addour body experiences. So having the ability
to go to your future, youknow in your next life you're going to
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die at the age of nineteen.Is there anything you can do that can
prevent your death or would that preventioncause a ripple in the time space continuum.
It would cause a ripple. Sodo you think that the future is
has already been established and we cannotdeviate from it? Yes? Why do
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you think that? Do you knowwhat? I just believe it. I
believe everything that we're meant to dois already been put out for us.
I believe our paths and that's becauseof the dimension theory again, right,
because if you think about it,if there's a start and end, so
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you're along that line, so thereis an end, and then if you
go into the other dimension, apparentlystart and end is all of one.
So therefore that means that it's alreadybeen set, Your fate's already been sealed.
You mentioned the dimension theory, andhere's my question to you. You've
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sounded very convinced throughout this interview thatthe dimensional rift or going from one dimension
to the next, is in factreal, and yet you call the demon
you call it the dimension theory.How come? Oh, I just made
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that word up. I have toslexia, so I'll just randomly like add
things. So, yeah, dimensiontheory. I don't know if that's a
thing. I yess, yeah,that's why it sounds to me. Why
do you think the governments of theworld are suppressing information about UFOs if they're
are, Yeah, that's a goodone. Well, look at the way
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people reacted with COVID. People wentcrazy. Could you imagine if people discovered
suddenly there were UFOs and aliens arereal and we do have the ability to
travel into dimensionally like, people wouldfreak out. Religions would all be questioned.
It would be like mass panic.And actually, I was what was
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I listening to it? I waslistening to something and they said War of
the World. So they actually releasedthat on the radio show Like Yourself,
and people went berzack. They wentcrazy, they started panicking, people were
killing themselves. So that that isthe reason why there hasn't been a disclosure.
I don't think that the impact ofthe existence of extra tre sirls UFOs
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would have any impact on religion becausethe way I look at it, the
Bible itself is filled with paranormal activity. You have Ezekiel's Wheel, which could
be very simply describing a UFO.So why do you think that it would
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be so bad for religion? Becausethey believe that Adam and Eve are created
by God on the world, andI don't believe that there's other world that
it says when I've gone for breakfastand I'm walking, you know people that
hand out leaflet's trying to get youto go to their church. Yeah,
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I've had like conversations with people andthey don't believe in aliens and things like
that. And actually the church,the church stops people from doing dream interpretation
because there was one guy I can'tremember his name now, and he had
he kept having bad dreams, sohe was like, I don't want to
disc us dream recal anymore. Sothey have stopped things they do fear sat
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and stuff. So I think,yeah, that would I just think people
would one hundred percent panic because itwould change our nature of reality. But
in my opinion, that might bea good thing. Yes, if you're
open, it would be a goodthing. But not everybody thinks like you
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and me. You know, Iwould be very grateful for anyone or or
any species, whether from this planetor anyone out there, who could help
get this world back where it shouldbe. If they could help us feed
the hungry, if they could helpus cure diseases based on their advanced knowledge
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of the sciences, I for onewould be very happy. Yeah, if
we could have multiple Nicola Tesla's ableto achieve that, right because we have
all these scientific discoveries. But atthe end of the day, there's a
lot of corporations out there and theywant to make money. So if someone
comes along with something that can stopI know Steven Greer talks about all the
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time, doesn't He says, wehave technology out there that can solve wild
hunger, but a lot of peopledon't want that technology to get anything.
You know, you just mentioned thatbig corporations don't want these things to happen
because of the financial gain that theythat they get, right. Yeah,
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and yet Steven Greer is doing thesame thing. Trouble it is in order
to push the message. So Iactually built my own app, so I
know where he's coming from. Soif you make an app to try and
get people to dream, to getpeople to be psychicked, to get people
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to do whatever it is you havea belief that people should do, it's
not free. So you got like, for example, you've got to pay
AWS to host things, or Microsoftyou've got to like, you've got to
pay someone to code the app.I've done all of this myself. So
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so you've got to pay a developer. You've got to pay a database developer,
you've got to pay an IPI developer, you've got to pay the interface.
Sure, I understand that, Butmy point is that there are a
lot of people who are in theUFO community and other aspects of the paranormal
who make large sums of money ontheir television appearances, on their books,
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on their DVDs, and on theirlectures. Yeah, so they're no better.
They're no better than the major corporations. I don't know how much money
they make, so I can't commentif it's a lot. But if you
look at expences as well for peoplewhen they travel, I understand that.
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I understand that. But the peoplewho travel get the same tax write offs
as the corporations. Yeah, listenquickly, I've got about thirty seconds.
Let our listeners know how they canfind out more about you and where they
can get your book. Yeah,so if they go to Dreamrecola dot com
and then screwed down, they cansee the book. All right, Thank
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you so much for joining us tonight, Sophie, and keep those dreams coming.
Good night, Sophie, thank you. All right. Explanation, Sophie
Jones has been our guest, andif you'd like to find out more about
Sophie, her website is dream Recallerdot com. And there are a lot
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of people in the Paranorma community,UFO community, Bigfoot community who make a
lot of money by promoting themselves,their books, their video, their lectures
and so on. So based onthat synopsis, they're no different than a
corporation. I'll be back tomorrow.Night at eleven o'clock is once again we
cross the time space continuum to thisplace that I call the xone, a
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place where people dare to believe anddare to be heard. And we come
to Monday through Friday at eleven o'clockright here from our broadcast center and studios
in St. Catharines, Ontario,on Classic twelve twenty, streamed at Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. So untiltomorrow night, my friends, always keep
your eyes to the sky and yourheart to the lake. Good night, everyone,
Hello everyone. This is UFO researcherand author Preston Bennett. Here to wish
Rob McConnell and all the listeners andviewers the worldwide X Zone nation a wonderful
and happy holidays all, Henriy.Welcome to the X Zone, a place
(00:48):
where fact is fiction and fiction isreality. Now here's your host, Rob
McConnell in that thing bringing into amillion pieces black you always do. And
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Welcome to the xone every one.I am Rob McConnell, and for the
next hour I'm your host and yourguide. Us Together we cross the time
space continuum to this place that Icall the x xone. The X Zone
is a place where people dare tobelieve and dare to be heard. It's
a place where fact is fiction andfiction is reality. And we come to
Monday through Friday at eleven pm fromour broadcast center and studios in Saint Catherine's,
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Ontario, Canada, on your hometownradio Classic twelve twenty and streamed around
the world on Classic twelve twenty dotCA. My guest this hour is Sophie
Jones, and we're going to betalking to Sophie about out of body experiences.
We're going to be talking to Sophieabout dreams as well as her new
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book that has just come out.It's called I Saw the Future. I
Saw the Future, and one ofthe comments here on the book is and
it was a beautiful, infinite instantknowledge in the milliseconds and unthinkable technology.
Talk to Sophie about that later on, because this would be a great Christmas
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gift everyone, Sophie, welcome tothe X song. Hello Rah, how
are you? I'm doing great?Thank you, and tell us a little
bit about yourself, and we're yourinterest in dreams Orb's ease. Where does
all this come from? Yeah,So I've had spontaneous out of body experiences
since I can remember, and Ialways tried to controul it as a very
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young girl, and I kind ofgot out of it when I was in
my teens. And when I wentto Australia to live for a year,
I actually discovers I slept talk.So I started to record my dreams and
then that led me to writing mydreams down, and then I started to
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train myself to remember more, tothe point of which I was remembering four
five a night, and then afterthat I started to have all these experiences
which I could remember because I hadtrained that dream recall. So that's what
led me to create the book.Now, you have had experiences that include
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other beings, yes, UFOs,men in black, and so many other
topics that people talk about but manydon't believe. So let me ask you
about your your UFO experience. Tellus about that. Okay, So me
and my brother, I think wewere around I can't remember it off at
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the top of my head now,say like seven eight years old, very
young, and we were sat ontop of the top bunk bed looking out
of the window and at the citywe were in, and we were just
talking and I said to my brother, I said, Danie, look at
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that up in the sky, becauseall of a sudden I could see a
pattern of lights in I said,oh my god, it's a UFO.
And he said, don't be ridiculous, Sophie. So we climbed down off
of the bunk bed and went tolook at it closer, and it was
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patterns of light and it was justhovering up in the sky, and then
all of a sudden, the splitof a second jumped to one side of
the sky and then jumped to thenext side of the sky. And then
back again. So my brother screamed, and then I screamed, because of
course he was ridiculed in me initially, so we ran downstairs to my parents
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and they were like, don't beridiculous, she never saw anything. So
I put it to the back ofmy mind. And then in my twenties
I spoke to a friend and Isaid he was telling me about how he
disowned his mother because she believed inUFOs. And I said, well,
what does she see? And hesaid and he described basically the same thing
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I saw. And I said whenwas this? And it would have been
the same year that I saw theUFO and she was actually in the newspaper
for seeing the same thing I saw. So then I wrung up my brother
and I said, do you rememberwhen we saw that ufo? And he
said, yeah, I do,and we still remember it, but we
always put it in to the backof our head because it was always,
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oh, you're young, you're justmaking things up. And ironically where it
would have been positioned, because Iwrong with my dad and said, what
did that overlook? And he saidit was the Navy, the Navy dockyard,
which does house nuclear submarines. Wow, have you had any other UFO
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experiences since that sighting. Yeah,so I haven't actually seen any UFOs in
the sky since that sighting, butI've witnessed through my dreams or my meditation.
Because I started getting big into meditation, I actually stopped it all because
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of I'm seeing something very bad.But I'll get into that later. So
I actually wrote the book because oneday I was meditating and just in the
split second, my consciousness shifted.It sounds, and I was just aware
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that I was, all of asudden in this interstellar spaceship, which would
be obviously class as a UFO.But on top of that, my brain
changed. Usually, when you meditateand you go somewhere or you have a
lucid dream, you keep your ownself so you're aware of yourself. You're
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aware, you know the way youthink and everything. But this was different,
all of a sudden, because I'mnot that great with maths, all
of a sudden, I was awareof every single mathematical equation that could be
used to construct the spaceship that Iwas traveling in. And I looked,
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I looked down the corridor in Ijust I was aware of all the mechanics
to how it had been created,and I was in a silver suit and
I had a bob. I don'tknow why I had a bob, and
I was just super intelligent. Andthen I thought, hang on, I'm
supposed to be Sophia Jones. Whatam I doing into seller spaceship? Because
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I just knew it was interstella andall of a sudden, then split for
a second, I could see allthe history of the Earth, and I
was like whoa. And at thatpoint I came back out of meditation because
it was just so overwhelming. Andthen when I came out of it,
I was like, oh my god, I feel so stupid, Like was
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that what a genius felt like?Because it was just incredible. And then
I've seen other beings as well,which I like because it's that crossover,
right. Is it an alien?Is it an entity that's crossing over from
another dimension? Or is it aUFO? Have you always been interested in
these type of genres? Yes,yeah, So there will periods in my
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life where I come out of it. For example, I actually stopped meditating
in twenty nineteen and just started againrecently. When I was in my late
teens, I stopped being interested init, but yes, I've always been
interested in it my dad. Mydad is able to control his projections at
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will, so we always used totry and train me. But he didn't
realize it was a thing called actualprojection. He just thought it was just
the mind in My mum has alwaysbeen able to have spontaneous ones where she
just flies above the city. Theydidn't really understand what it was, but
I always wanted to research these things. I wanted to know is esp real?
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Can it be achieved? So Ialways put time an effort into doing
it. What was it like growingup in a home where you had parents
who openly discussed and encouraged you toto open yourself up to so many different
possibilities. Yeah, so my dadwas always of the opinion you can do
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anything you want. Everything is possible, right, So he would actually train
me on what's it called putting myselfin a state of deep relaxation, because
you would say things like when yougo to sleep at night, you can
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ask a question and your subconscious mindwill give you the answer. Right.
So I was always very focused onIf I wanted something, I'd always focus
on it. So I've got it. My mum was very much into spiritual
things such as like you know,what are your in signs? What your
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astrology? But there were a verymodern family. You wouldn't have thought unless
you like from the outside, youwould not think they were that way.
But my mom and dad saw aghost actually, and they thought it was
me. We used to live inthis old Victorian house. This isn't in
the book. We used to livein the o this old Victoria Victorian house.
And one day my mum came outto the bathroom and she saw this
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little girl and she said, Sophie, because I was only three years old
at the time, what are youdoing? Get back to bed, and
she said all also, and thegirl turned into what would have been the
old doorway for a bathroom, whichthey actually bought it up. So she
thought, hang on a set,this girl was just floated into a war.
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And then she realized that the girlwas wearing like a little floaty dress,
and I used to wear pajamas,so she realized it wasn't me,
so she freaked out. And thenmy dad saw the exat same thing.
And then when we moved out ofthat promises, my uncle moved in and
he because he always ridiculed them,and took the mix for them seeing that
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little girl ghost. And then onenight he went to the kitchen to get
a drink and when he turned around, there was this man stood in the
doorway of the kitchen just looking athim, and he said, he thought,
oh my god, and he justclosed his eyes and walked through the
man and he said it was allkilled. And he went back to bed,
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and he actually he sawed the flatshortly after. Yeah, he just
can't believe it. He never ridiculedthem again. But this is the thing,
right, you can never believe somethinguntil you've had that experience. In
I unless I wrote all these experiencesdown, some of the experiences I had,
I'm like, oh my god,yeah I remember that. And I'm
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like, so I really have that, but I know I had it because
I wrote it down. So forSampo, I saw this being that actually
led to me stop wanting to writemy dreams down because I used to share
dreams with people. Yes, SoI don't know if you want me to
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get onto that topic now. Well, I think what we're going to do
is we're going to take a commercialbreak, Sophie, and when we come
back, let's talk about that dreamand I want to talk to you about
men in black, I want totalk to you about time travel, shared
dreaming, and so much more xoanation. Our guess this hour is Sophie
Jones. Her website is dream Recallerdot com. And Sophie and I will
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be back on the other side ofthis very short break as the exone continues
with yours truly, Rob McConnell fromour broadcast center in the Saint Catherine's,
Ontario, Canada, and you're listeningto us on Classic twelve twenty, your
hometown radio, and we're streamed aroundthe world at www dot Classic twelve twenty
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dot ca A dot co. Waywill be back on the other side of
this break. Hi, Merry Christmas, Robin the listeners. This is Patty
(14:35):
Freeman. I'm a hypnotist from Hypnosisby Patty. I've been a guest frequently
on your program and my webs atis www dot Hypnosis by Patty dot Com.
I just want to wish everyone inyour listeners and viewers the more well
excellent, a very merry Christmas anda happy New Year. Chris right,
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this is the evening News. Let'sgo down to our field. Reporter Bernaldo
Riviera. This is Redawdo Riviera onthe banks of the stinky Mothery River with
mister R. V. Frisbee willcling to that whitney something truly fantastic,
mister Frisbee. Could you tell uswhat you saw? Yeah, I just
hunkered down over putting a stink waiteon my trot line and the short hairs
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that stood straight out on the backof my neck. And I turned around.
There's this big armstrang them purple lightson. It comes so whooping over
them pine trees and just hoovered overthe window bag over Heinie's run out and
throw the skilly that it and thenshe scissored and run back in up on
the hide of bed. About thattime, little trap door opened up,
little stairsteps come down. This littlepink ball headed guy stuck his head out.
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Now I've seen that movie Close toEncounters. I just walking over as
big as I and looked up andthere and there he was there who was
soelve a cent lavin high acu.You imagine that seeing Elvis in the UFO
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explanation. Sophie Jones is our specialguest and her website is Dreamrecaller dot com.
And you're listening to the X ZoneRadio show with yours truly, Rob
McConnell. Frown your hometown Radio Classictwelve twenty streamed around the world on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. If you'dlike to send me an email that you'd
like us to pass on to aguest, or maybe there's a special guest
(16:30):
you would like us to have onthe show, or maybe you just want
to send a friendly little note tous very simple email address, x Zone
at twelve twenty dot CA. Sophie, you were just about to tell us
about. Yeah, so have youever had a dream where you actually had
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the same dream as somebody else?Not that I'm aware of, Okay,
So basically what happened was, whenI was starting to build up my dream
recall, I started speaking to mycolleague about my dreams, and then he
started sharing his dreams with me.And I actually gave him because I wrote
(17:15):
another book which enabled people to buildup their dream recall, because I wrote
it for myself just because I selfishlywanted to record dreams in a certain way,
So I gave him a copy.So we would us every morning what
dreams we had, and we startedand notice that actually sometimes that would be
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very similar. So what we didis we would write down our dreams and
we would swap dreams without telling eachother and look for similarities before discussing them.
And it would always like obviously notall the time, but the majority
of the time. I actually becausewe were building up this connection, I
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was able to discuss how I waswatching like a film his dream and here
were a report always seeing like alike a shadow in a distance, watching
if I was in it. Sothe idea was we always went to bed
at the same time every night,and then we would be in the same
dream, so like aled together.So one night I didn't go to sleep
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at the usual time and I justwanted to meditate. So I'm there meditating
and all of a sudden, Ifelt this, like I can only just
like it's like a real eerie sense, you know what I mean? Not
really you ever had like somebody's watchingyou that eerie sense? No, okay,
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so you have to just imagine itthen, So I have this sense.
So I look into the corridor andI kid you not, I saw
a premantispon and it was just likeas where we're seeing it. It was
just this intense feeling of like pure, like like it wanted to rip out
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my soul, just like hatred.So I kind of like looked back to
my left and then looked back again, and the thing was moving closer to
me, and I was like,hang on, like what the hell?
This is as clear as day.So the bloody thing manifested itself in this
real, in this in our reality. So I kind of like slapped myself
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in the face because I thought,am I asleep? And I wasn't.
I was wide awake. So Ijust like had this intense fear and I
don't know why I did it,but I just got up the courage and
I went like f off to itis angrily as I could. So I
was shaken. So I wrung upmy dad and I was like, Dad,
you won't believe what I've just saw. And he was like, oh
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my god, you do not tellanyone about that. He's like, do
not tell anyone. He's like,that's like sorcerer, like it's actually like
it's been conjured, Like I don'tknow why that's actually come into the real
like that. He's like, donot ever in your life tell anyone about
that. So I did not sleep. I drew what I saw, and
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in the morning when I went intowork, I've obviously got the dream off
of my colleague and gave him thebit of paper. And his dream was
that he had a dream where thisprey amount is being but he described it
as a stick in set demon wasslashing all his tents and he said,
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Sophie, you're dreaming right now,come and save me. And a goddamn
thing came to me, and thephysical could be that the praying Manchester that
you saw was an awaking dream andwasn't there at all. That's what I
thought. But I wrung my dadand he remembered me calling him as clear
as day. What has been theweirdest dream you've ever had, Sophie.
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Oh, that's a good one.So many of them, the weird,
the weirdest. Yeah, the wildest, Oh I actually had. I've actually
had dreams within dreams, so Ihad I think it was the Chinese or
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Japanese mafia would chase me. AndI woke up and then I was in
my friend's house and I went downstairsto the kitchen and we actually started talking
about how we were having a dream, and then we're like, oh my
god, we had the same dream. That's so weird. And then I
went and got ready and then wewere walking down the street and I woke
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up, and that's it. That'syour weirdest dream. Well, there's just
so many of them, like theso the one that you mentioned earlier,
that solving the equation for simultaneously atsystem and more than ones. I mentioned
that once. That one was prettyweird. So basically I was with a
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bunch of dream characters and we solvedthat equation and it was on the board,
black and white on the board,and all of a sudden, these
characters jumped in and started chasing usall and then I woke up from it
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and a demon was trying to pullme off of the bed. And at
this point in my life, Ihad never had sleep polarisis okay, so
I didn't. I never believed people, because that's the thing, right,
unless you have the experiences, youdon't tend to believe it to what happened
to you. And yeah, theyjust wanted to writ mysel out well it
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and I woke up like in adeep, deep, deep state of panic.
It was just horrendous. And that'sactually one of the things that stopped
me because as you start to rememberyour dreams more, you go more down
into that rabbit hole, you actuallystart to have these really super weird experiences.
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Yeah, and then I saw menin black and later dreams. Now,
the men in black that you sawwere in a dream. But have
you ever have you ever had thefeeling that you're being followed because of your
charismatic approach to life and the bookthat you've written. Ah, No,
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I think I think there would betoo many people out there to justify spending
resources. So yeah, there wouldbe too many people out there that have
the same experience as me to justifyspent getting people to follow me. If
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that makes sense. Sure, Okay, then let me ask you what has
been the longest dream you've ever had? Oh? I had one that went
on for forty years. Okay,explain that to me. Okay, So
basically, I was a guy andI was an accountant, and I like,
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oh my god, it was anotherend. And I remember even looking
up at the clock and seeing likehe was waiting for it to hit five
so he could leave his accountant's job. I remember like him meet and his
wife, like nights in having afamily, and then even to the fat
the last part of the dream waswhen it was his daughter's twenty first birthday
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and he was just like just soproud that he had created this beautiful being
and oh my gosh, she's twentyone, like, and then I woke
up, So yeah, I rememberedevery single hour, like all of his
life. And at the time,I don't know, I would have been
what twenty six, twenty seven,And I was like, how the hell
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if I had a dream that's lastedforty years and I'm not even that over
myself. So the forty year dreamwas actually in one night, yes,
okay, So how do we howdo we explain that or how do we
try to rationalize that that you goto sleep, let's say at ten o'clock
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at night. Yep, Well,while you're sleeping, you actually have a
dream that in the dream world isforty years long, and you wake up
the next morning and you're still thesame twenty six year old young lady,
and that the time has never progressed. How do we explain it? It's
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a very weird feeling. But inthe other dimensions, time is nonlinear,
right, so it's not the sameconcept as us as this whole you know,
start and end. It's all sporatic, so there is no That's why
in our dimension quite often people thatare classified as psychic or they have these
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weird experiences, they have the abilityto go in and pick a time and
bring it back. So in theother dimension, as I said, time
is nonlinear, so therefore it's alreadyhappened, so you can go in and
you can bring these things back.So there's an interesting report actually that I
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recommend you read, which I can'tI can't remember what title of it or
who it's written by, but it'sI have to to get out. And
basically, we are a mass inWhat enables you to see right now is
your perception of where you are,and if you shift that mass, you
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can go in a monkst Basically,you can split your consciousness and come out
of it and then tap into theother dimension. It's just at this moment
in time, you're sat there rightnow, Rob and you've got this thing
in front of you. You've gotyour X Y coordinates. But if you
can become aware that you're mass andyou split that consciousness and jump, you
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can get into the other dimensions.And that's where, like I said,
time isn't the same concept as itis in this dimension. So you believe
that time travel is real? Yes, all right, let's talk about that
when we come back from our commercialbreak explanation. I guess this hour is
Sophie Jones. Her website is dreamRecaller dot com, and Sophie and I
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will be back on the other sideof this break as the exone continues with
here's truly Rob McConnell from our broadcastcenter and studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario,
Canada, on your hometown radio,Classic twelve twenty, and we're streaming
around the world at Classic twelve twentydot ca A. Whatever you do,
don't go away. Sophie and Iwill return talking more about well dreams,
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time travel, UFOs and much more. Don't go away, head, don't
say guys, I don't be bitif this out and out of Spain jumping.
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This is Rob McConnell wishing each andevery one of you a very,
very merry Christmas and a happy,healthy, prosperous New Year. From our
home to yours, love, lightand spirituality today and every day from this
day forward. Merry Christmas everyone.You always say that you wanna be for
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you and welcome back every one.Talking with our guests this hour Sophie Jones.
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Her website is dream Recaller dot com. And I'm Rob McConnell. This
is the xon We're coming to youon your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and
streamed around the world on Classic twelvetwenty dot CA. A tell us about
time travel and why you think timetravel is real. Yeah, so I've
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had dreams where I travel, butobviously that's not in this reality. I
just believe that everything that is dueto happen has already happened. Yeah,
it's a hard one because I can'tsay specifically why, but I just feel
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it is like I've gone into futurelife and I've gone into past life.
So that's why I believe time travelis able to be hard, if that
makes sense. I believe away ableto send our consciousness across different timelines.
So actually, from what I'm understanding, Sophie, is that all the topics
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that you discuss and that you've discussedwith us so far have occurred only in
your dreams. No, all right, what hasn't occurred in your dreams?
Then? Okay, so the meditationexperiences haven't occurred in my dreams because I'm
meditative experiences. So I'm fully connejust sat up, not dreaman. I've
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had this one weird occurrence. Sohave you ever heard of Inglo's swan?
A what dear Ingo Swan? Tellme what that is? Okay, So
he's like the number one remote viewow in the world. Unfortunately he died,
so he's no longer with us.Oh I see Schwan. No,
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we haven't better where I've had RussellTargon a number of times, and he's
the gentleman who taught the CIA Bramoteviewing. Yeah, so Ingo was like
the number one in the world.He even could tell things about Jupiter before
they were even able to verify it. So he was like a brilliant man.
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And I remember watching one of thosetalks and he was saying that you
could communicate with alien beans, andI thought, really, so I've I
sat down and I said, ifthere's an alien out there, I want
I want you to come and havea cup of team with me and have
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chat. So I kind of justsat there thinking this, and then when
I stopped doing it, I thought, oh my god, this is so
silly. I can't believe I'm doingthis. But because Inglo said you could
do it, I was like,I'm just going to try it, Like
what I for gott to lose?So then that same not I went to
sleep and then I woke up andthere was a knockout the door at three
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am, and I was like,oh my god, like, who the
hell is that? And I totallyforgot I had done this. And then
they didn't press the door after thatone time, and then they just walked
back to their car. And thenit wasn't till in the morning that I
thought, ah, yeah, Idid. I did that thing, Inglo,
and it always made me wonder,and it wasn't in my dreams because
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my partner who I was with atthe time, he had the doorbell and
he was like, I ain't goingup okay, hold on here, let
me just let me just back uphere, because I think I lost something
in the interpretation of the dream.You heard, and you heard it and
the doorbell went off at three o'clockin the morning, did you actually go
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down and answer the door? No. I went to the window and looked
because I was scared. Okay,And what was it that you saw or
who was it that you saw?Someone? Because it was dark, someone
it looked like with the hoodie up, and then they just walked back to
their car, okay, and thensat and then disappeared. And to put
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it into perspective, this place thatI was living at the time, like
nobody ever pressed that doorbell because itwas very remote and it was very hidden.
So for someone to come three o'clockin the morning and press that doorbell,
it was unheard of because even ifI would have deliveries, they would
struggle to find me or struggle tofind the doorbell. Even so, it
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was like a rare occurrence, likethe only time that someone's ever pushed the
doorbell on the whole five years Ilived there at the time. All right,
So what makes you believe that thisperson who rang your doorbell at three
o'clock in the morning was an alien? Because Ingo Swan said that aliens had
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the some had the ability to walkamongst us, right, And he said
if he wanted to have communication withthem, he would relax his mind and
he would just politely ask them,if there's an alien out there, alien
being, right now, will youcome and have a conversation? I see,
And he said if they wanted to, they would just pop up and
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they would then just teleperfectly have acommunication with him. So this this being
that you believe was an alien,got back into his car, Yeah,
and just drove off. So theycould have just learned. Let me ask
you. Let me ask you thisbecause I might. I have to keep
on going with my train of thoughthere. Why would an alien use a
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car instead of a UFO because it'sthe type that walks amongst us. I'm
just okay, And have you seenin your waking life in this reality,
in this dimension? Yeah, aliensfrom another planet or another galaxy. Not
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well, I've described that promantis thatcame me, but not out in a
monkst No, why do you thinkthat you have been given the ability to
do what you do? See whatyou see? I don't think it's me
specifically. I just think it's becauseI've put the time and effort into recalling
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my dreams. Because I think ifevery single person in the world started to
remember every single dream that they werehaving every night, they would actually have
experiences like I had. So yeah, I think that's what it is.
Okay, So, how do weknow that the experiences that you're experiencing when
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you're sleeping, when you're dreaming haveanything to do with reality, Well,
you don't, but it's my reality. So any person's reality is their own
reality. We can never tell themwhat to think or what to do.
It's their reality, their their themselvesright. They can only go by their
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own experiences. So if somebody feelssomething, and we make someone feel something,
it's not our reality. It couldnot be our reality to make them
feel that way, but in theirown reality, they're feeling that way.
So unfortunately, everyone's got their ownreality, everyone's got their own experiences.
And that's where it's very important forpeople to actually write their own dreams down
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and start to do this, becausethen they can make that informed decision.
It has crossed over into other people. For example, my auntie wanted me
to come to this workshop with herbecause I was taking a friend to meet
her to go with her, andI didn't want to go to the workshop,
and they ended up begging me tocome in with them. So I'm
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in this spiritual workshop and they're teachinghow to be claravoyant, and I have
no interest in that. Even thoughI'm into dreaming, I have no interest
in claravoyance or anything. So I'msat there and they're going around a group
and you had to look at theperson in front of you and say you
had to imagine someone on the benchand then describe who you saw. So
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I get to this last lady becauseI'm like, oh, I just want
to go home. And I sawthis man, this like beefy stocky man,
come in blonde and sit on thebench, and long story cuts short,
who I described to her was herex boyfriend. And I also had
this like this year come into mybrain and I saw this woman being beat
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up by a man. So Isaid a year to her and what I
saw, and she started crying becauseher daughter had like died from being beaten
up. So the whole work shotthen went into chaos because she was so
upset. And then they shouted atme. I was like, I was
just saying what came into my mindas I was told to do it,
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and they like, you shouldn't saynegative stuff. I was like, I'm
just saying what came into my mind. So that's the time when it's crossed
over to someone else in the physicaland I haven't been asleep. Does that
make sense, Yeah, it does, it does, But I you know,
what is the difference then, betweenwhat you see your dreaming and clairvoyance.
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Ah, so I'm not a clairvoyanceso like I'm the worst person to
ask, but I should imagine.And this is just me making it up,
like because you've asked me the question, I should imagine. Clairvoyance technically
is the same thing, because you'rechanneling into the other dimension, right You're
tapping that other dimension. It's justthat they're yes speaking to someone and then
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they're able to tap into it whilstthey're talking. So if I was clairvoyant,
if I was a clairvoyant person rightnow and I'm talking to you in
I don't know, they do something, they'll be able to enter into that
same dimension. Is when you dreamand gather information that they need and then
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it comes through them. I don'tknow. Like with me, when I
close my eyes and they told meto do it, it was literally I
visually saw something. But I knowfrom speaking to people that they have like
where they hear where they feel.You have different senses, right, So
yeah, that's what I imagine,and it's the same place. Well,
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because when you're when you're asleep andyou're dreaming, you have the sense of
smell, you have the sense oftouch. You have the exact same perceptions
that a person who is clairvoyant has. And this is why I think that
we're you know, it's it's thesame thing that we're discussing. Yeah,
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yeah, you and I have totake our break, our final break for
this hour exponation. When we comeback, I'd like to talk to you
about your vision of the future andhave you ever gone to the future?
And have you ever gone to thepast? So please stand by Sophie an
excell nation. Sophie Jones is ourguest. She has a new book out
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called I Saw the Future and itsaid where's your book available Sophie Amazon?
That plain that simple And if you'dlike to find out more about Sophie,
her website is dream Recaller dot com. I'll be back as the X Zone
continues. After all, this isa place where fact is fiction and fiction
(42:29):
is reality. When we come toyou Monday through Friday at eleven pm Eastern
on your hometown radio Classic twelve twentyand streamed around the world on Classic twelve
twenty dot CA. I'm Rob McConnell. We'll be backed Uncleways you always say
(42:57):
that you want to be Fred youwould baby so many times to Booth.
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This is Rob McConnell wishing each andevery one of you a very, very
merry Christmas and a happy, healthy, prosperous New Year. From our home
to yours, love, light andspirituality today and every day from this day
forward. Merry Christmas everyone. Wellit just got back from Roswell where the
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aliens have been. And if youask the Feds the cars, well,
they'll only lie again. Now I'mhunted by the gum shoes and I'm hunted
by the cops because they think thatI might be the guy making circles in
the crys. And I know thatthere's a conspiracy from the voices in my
(44:30):
head Elvis lives. That's clear tome. It's McCartney who is dead.
And if the mars Man should comeagain and take me, I will go.
I will take a trip on theirrocket ship. God bless the UFOL
(44:55):
give JFK this message. It's theCuban Army fault, and I know that
Dave Koresh is alive inside the fault. We've seen reports in papers of the
guy who knows about on a carthat runs on chewing gum. But the
Arabs rubbed him out loudly. Onethat America is badly hungred bad. The
(45:23):
called wye bro. We need somethingnew that can get you good and scare
you. Wonder just who who iswanting you of conspiracies today? We're the
ones who fill the room. Weare the see Welcome back to the excellent
(45:45):
everyone. Sophie Jones is our guestthis hour. Sophie is the author of
I Saw the Future. It's availableon Amazon dot com. Sophie, what
does the future look like you like? Yeah? So I think in the
future we have infinite intelligence and asplit of a second, we will be
(46:09):
interstellar species. We will be travelingthrough space and yeah, that's what I
think the future looks like. Ithink we'd be able to master There are
minds a lot more. What doyou think about karma? Oh, yeah,
(46:31):
believe in karma. So I believeyou should basically try to have as
many positive experiences as you can withpeople. And like, have you ever
had you ever met someone and youjust instantly dislike them or they just instantly
(46:52):
dislike you and it's nothing that youhave done to that person, They just
are horrible to you. Yes,I have, Yes, So I believe
that I have a little bit ofa Buddhist monk mentality on this. So
I believe that in your past livesyou've had negative interactions, and then when
you come forward in the future,that's why you have that interaction with that
(47:17):
person, because although you've done nothingin this life, you've had a negative
reaction with them in a past life, and subconsciously that's why they are a
little bit like negative towards you,because they consciously don't know, but they're
unconscious feels it. If that makessense. What is your thoughts on reincarnation.
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I believe that we are reincarnated againand again to learn lessons. I've
actually I've actually gone into a fewpast lives and I've gone into a future
life. What's your future life like? So my next one, I'm born
in Africa and I die when I'mnineteen, so I actually get into electronics
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and then I go to a universityand then when I'm nineteen a year into
university and not dying, and let'sgo back in time. What have you
been in the past? Just boringthings really like nothing outside. Yeah,
(48:27):
it was quite often military type LIFESIwas just interesting because I wouldn't go into
the military in this life, andthen I was barred because I get migraines.
But yeah, it's mainly military life, just boring standard of the meal
in your past LIFs, Sophie,have you been a dream recaller? Ah?
(48:52):
Yeah, So I believe that ifyou have skills, any skill you
develop carries over into the next life. And this is why it's some people
are good at certain things one hundredpercent. Yeah. I would have remembered
my dreams and I would have addour body experiences. So having the ability
to go to your future, youknow in your next life you're going to
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die at the age of nineteen.Is there anything you can do that can
prevent your death or would that preventioncause a ripple in the time space continuum.
It would cause a ripple. Sodo you think that the future is
has already been established and we cannotdeviate from it? Yes? Why do
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you think that? Do you knowwhat? I just believe it. I
believe everything that we're meant to dois already been put out for us.
I believe our paths and that's becauseof the dimension theory again, right,
because if you think about it,if there's a start and end, so
(50:01):
you're along that line, so thereis an end, and then if you
go into the other dimension, apparentlystart and end is all of one.
So therefore that means that it's alreadybeen set, Your fate's already been sealed.
You mentioned the dimension theory, andhere's my question to you. You've
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sounded very convinced throughout this interview thatthe dimensional rift or going from one dimension
to the next, is in factreal, and yet you call the demon
you call it the dimension theory.How come? Oh, I just made
(50:49):
that word up. I have toslexia, so I'll just randomly like add
things. So, yeah, dimensiontheory. I don't know if that's a
thing. I yess, yeah,that's why it sounds to me. Why
do you think the governments of theworld are suppressing information about UFOs if they're
are, Yeah, that's a goodone. Well, look at the way
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people reacted with COVID. People wentcrazy. Could you imagine if people discovered
suddenly there were UFOs and aliens arereal and we do have the ability to
travel into dimensionally like, people wouldfreak out. Religions would all be questioned.
It would be like mass panic.And actually, I was what was
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I listening to it? I waslistening to something and they said War of
the World. So they actually releasedthat on the radio show Like Yourself,
and people went berzack. They wentcrazy, they started panicking, people were
killing themselves. So that that isthe reason why there hasn't been a disclosure.
I don't think that the impact ofthe existence of extra tre sirls UFOs
(52:00):
would have any impact on religion becausethe way I look at it, the
Bible itself is filled with paranormal activity. You have Ezekiel's Wheel, which could
be very simply describing a UFO.So why do you think that it would
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be so bad for religion? Becausethey believe that Adam and Eve are created
by God on the world, andI don't believe that there's other world that
it says when I've gone for breakfastand I'm walking, you know people that
hand out leaflet's trying to get youto go to their church. Yeah,
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I've had like conversations with people andthey don't believe in aliens and things like
that. And actually the church,the church stops people from doing dream interpretation
because there was one guy I can'tremember his name now, and he had
he kept having bad dreams, sohe was like, I don't want to
disc us dream recal anymore. Sothey have stopped things they do fear sat
(53:05):
and stuff. So I think,yeah, that would I just think people
would one hundred percent panic because itwould change our nature of reality. But
in my opinion, that might bea good thing. Yes, if you're
open, it would be a goodthing. But not everybody thinks like you
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and me. You know, Iwould be very grateful for anyone or or
any species, whether from this planetor anyone out there, who could help
get this world back where it shouldbe. If they could help us feed
the hungry, if they could helpus cure diseases based on their advanced knowledge
(53:51):
of the sciences, I for onewould be very happy. Yeah, if
we could have multiple Nicola Tesla's ableto achieve that, right because we have
all these scientific discoveries. But atthe end of the day, there's a
lot of corporations out there and theywant to make money. So if someone
comes along with something that can stopI know Steven Greer talks about all the
(54:15):
time, doesn't He says, wehave technology out there that can solve wild
hunger, but a lot of peopledon't want that technology to get anything.
You know, you just mentioned thatbig corporations don't want these things to happen
because of the financial gain that theythat they get, right. Yeah,
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and yet Steven Greer is doing thesame thing. Trouble it is in order
to push the message. So Iactually built my own app, so I
know where he's coming from. Soif you make an app to try and
get people to dream, to getpeople to be psychicked, to get people
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to do whatever it is you havea belief that people should do, it's
not free. So you got like, for example, you've got to pay
AWS to host things, or Microsoftyou've got to like, you've got to
pay someone to code the app.I've done all of this myself. So
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so you've got to pay a developer. You've got to pay a database developer,
you've got to pay an IPI developer, you've got to pay the interface.
Sure, I understand that, Butmy point is that there are a
lot of people who are in theUFO community and other aspects of the paranormal
who make large sums of money ontheir television appearances, on their books,
(55:43):
on their DVDs, and on theirlectures. Yeah, so they're no better.
They're no better than the major corporations. I don't know how much money
they make, so I can't commentif it's a lot. But if you
look at expences as well for peoplewhen they travel, I understand that.
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I understand that. But the peoplewho travel get the same tax write offs
as the corporations. Yeah, listenquickly, I've got about thirty seconds.
Let our listeners know how they canfind out more about you and where they
can get your book. Yeah,so if they go to Dreamrecola dot com
and then screwed down, they cansee the book. All right, Thank
(56:30):
you so much for joining us tonight, Sophie, and keep those dreams coming.
Good night, Sophie, thank you. All right. Explanation, Sophie
Jones has been our guest, andif you'd like to find out more about
Sophie, her website is dream Recallerdot com. And there are a lot
(56:51):
of people in the Paranorma community,UFO community, Bigfoot community who make a
lot of money by promoting themselves,their books, their video, their lectures
and so on. So based onthat synopsis, they're no different than a
corporation. I'll be back tomorrow.Night at eleven o'clock is once again we
cross the time space continuum to thisplace that I call the xone, a
(57:15):
place where people dare to believe anddare to be heard. And we come
to Monday through Friday at eleven o'clockright here from our broadcast center and studios
in St. Catharines, Ontario,on Classic twelve twenty, streamed at Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. So untiltomorrow night, my friends, always keep
your eyes to the sky and yourheart to the lake. Good night, everyone,
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