January 28, 2024 • 57 mins
Von Braschler is the author of several books on consciousness development that range from time travel to visualization, energy healing, and thought power. Recent books include Time Shifts, Seven Secrets of Time Travel, Manifesting, Confessions of a Reluctant Ghost Hunter, and Mysterious Messages from Beyond. Von is a former award-winning journalist and former faculty member of the Omega Institute for Holistic Studies.
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Ah Henry. Welcome to the XZone, a place where fact is fiction
and fiction is reality. Now here'syour host, Rob hacconnell to in that
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thing YouTube, bringing the on intoa million pieces like you always do until
needs to be. And good eveningeveryone. This is the Xhone. I
am Rob McConnell and we're coming toyou from our broadcast center in studios in
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Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,on Classic twelve twenty and streaming on Classic
twelve twenty dot CA. If you'dlike to send me an email, the
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If you have questions that weren't answeredby our past guests that we had,
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just send me that email. Lovegetting your comments and hopefully we'll be
able to solve a few problems thatyou might have. My guess this hour
Exponation is von Broschler. He isan author of several books on consciousness expansion
and has published books on everything fromtime travel to lucid dreams, thought power,
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out of body travel, ghosts,and energy healing. He is a
former member of the Omega Institute forHolistic Studies in Rhinebeck, New York,
and has led workshops throughout the UnitedStates and the United Kingdom. He is
a former award winning journalist. Currently, Vaughn lives on a small rustic island
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in the San Juan Islands, justoff the coast of Washington State near Vancouver,
BC. Joining me now is vonBroshlar and Vaughn. Welcome back to
the excellent nice having you with us. Thank you, Rob. It's so
kind if you get to have meback. I've been on the show,
but a long time ago. Yes, And as it seems that more and
more people are interested in the topicsthat you talk about, you know,
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dreams, past lives, time,traveling, consciousness than ever before. More
and more people are asking these seriousquestions and to what do you attribute that
to? Von Well, I thinkthat these are the big these these are
the gateway to the important questions Whoam I? Why am I here?
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What am I supposed to be doingin my life? What is it I'm
supposed to remember? And how doI get on with doing what I'm supposed
to do here? I think theseare the big questions and all of these
are like salad dressing to addressing thosequestions. Now, I didn't pick any
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of these questions, any of thesetopics that I'm write about. They just
seem to come to me as theycome to everybody else, that these are
the topics that we need to focuson. Faun. What started you on
your quest into all the topics thatyou are interested in? What happened in
your life? I thought I hada normal childhood, but I guess I
didn't. I came back from thefirst grade and the kid across the street
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and said, what do you meanwhen you stood up and everybody was supposed
to say where they were from originally, and you cited a planet that I've
never heard of, And I said, I don't know. It just came
to me. I guess I've alwaysbeen kind of a little out of sorts.
I've had a lot of odd thingshappened to me, even at a
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young age that seemed hard to explainat the time, And now that I'm
older, I can see that itwas always kind of like, as I
like to say, spirit guiding me. I had a lot of people along
the way they kind of led meand then disappeared you know, strange,
strange people would come into my life, and the strange things would happen to
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me, even when I was ayoung, young youngster. Really, what
was the strangest thing that happened toyou as youngster? Yeah, I don't
know if I talked about this whenI was on your show last. It
was a while ago, raw,but I was like, I think eleven
or twelve. I think it's twelveyears old, and all of the kids
in the neighborhood were fascinated with thisyellow school bus and it wasn't a school
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bus, and it was an old, beat up thing. And they on
the side that said pickers wanted wellthey had berry fields and they wanted kids
to come and pick berries. Well, I had no real interest in picking
berries. But what I heard wasthere was a nice river we could go
and you know, sit along anddip in and swim during lunch hour.
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Well I thought lunch hour was assoon as I got there, and it
extended throughout the day. And asfar as the berries, I was all
for picking the berries. I justate them all. I think I turned
in one box. So anyway,I'd been there a little while and I
got very, very sick, andsomeone said, oh, you swam too
much and ate too many berries.And so I went and talked to the
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man who ran the bus and said, you've got to take me home.
I have a terrible pain in mystomach like I've never felt before. I
think it's serious now, you know, I don't really get I'm one that
keeps his pain to himself, soyou know. But he didn't know that,
and he said, oh, youwait, kid, we all go
home at the same time. Sothen I talked to the man who was
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owned the very field, mister Behringer, and he said, you know,
you wait till the bus leaves andwe'll take you home. Don't worry,
just sit down. You don't haveto work anymore. Well, I felt
really sick, and I told myfriend, said, I noticed that the
railroad track ran across when he cameonto the berry field. Every day we
would come across and run all overthis railroad track. And I said,
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if I just followed these railroad tracks, it'll take me to my home.
They said, oh, no,no, no, no, I said,
no, it stops in front ofmy house. Well, I started
to walk, and I started towalk, and I got halfway out of
their vision. And then I startedto go around a bunch of overgrown bushes
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along the track at a curve,and I could no longer see them,
and I took one big step andeverything got dark. And then the next
thing I knew, I was infront of my house and I stepped down
from the railroad track, which wasvery high up. I remember that.
I went into the house and Iflopped on my mother's bed, and when
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she came to the room, Isaid, you've got to take me to
the doctor. She said, oh, if you're just lie down, i'll
get you some seven up. Isaid, no, no, it's seven
up. I'm really sick. Shesaid, well, just relax. So
she waited until morning, and shecalled our family doctor, and he was
golfing, of course, of course, and he said, well, take
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him the way you've described it.It sounds like a pedicitis, and you
take him to the hospital and I'llbe there as soon as I finished the
back nine. I'll never forget that. And when he got there, my
appendix had already burst. But ofcourse I survived luckily, and I got
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to the hospital none too soon.The odd thing about this story, Rob
is that the railroad tracks don't stopin front of my house. They don't.
No. So the next year,I'm out in the backyard and I,
you know, everybody says, everybodysays, how did you get home?
And how did it all happen?You know, you got home in
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just in time? And how didyou find your way home? Because the
railroad you know, you know,how did how did? And I would
say, oh, I don't wantto talk about it because I couldn't explain
it. It didn't make any senseto me, so I just blank blanked
it out. And frankly, Ithink this is true of a lot of
people that have odd or paranormal activitieshappening to them, things that they can't
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explain, you know, things thatare unknown to us. And in this
case, the next year, Ilooked out and I had to admit that
there were no railroad tracks indeed thatwent in front of our house, nowhere
near our house. But a yearlater we moved north of that city,
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and the railroad track did cross infront of our house, just as I
had seen. It's a strange story, you know, and it's like so,
you know, I tried to explainwhat had happened to me, you
know, and and how this happened. But it seemed to me that it
was it was very mystical, youknow. I mean I had absolutely folded
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time and space because when I gotthere, it was it was dark,
but it all happened like in aflash, like in a second, and
I was instantly home. And thenhow did I Here's the thing. These
railroad tracks they go all different ways. People that notice railroads, they they
don't follow, you know, lineslike like like highways or roadways. They
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don't go to everybody's house. Theydon't. It's not like a bus line.
I mean they in our case,they went along the river and along
the bay, and we were halfwayin between the river and the bay.
And so it's it's really odd thatI would think of it that way.
But I was so confident that Iwould be home, that I was home,
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you know. But when I gothome it was much later in the
day, you know, it shouldhave been like afternoon. So I think
I'm one guy who's actually stepped outof time and space and never gotten back
those three hours that I lost.You know, you've you've led a fascinating
career. You you're and you know, you talk many subjects you know,
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time and space, consciousness, andand it seems that one of the topics
that that you're you do a lotof talking for is about dreams. And
I've read somewhere that you said,sometimes a dream is more than a dream.
What did you mean by that?Yeah, you know, we have
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a way of looking at dreams inour society today that they're just like memories
that were flashing through our head.They're like things that are of concern to
us. And this is true ofa lot of low level dreams. These
are dreams of a restless night whereyou're you're you're not totally asleep, your
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analytical mind, your brain is certainlynot fully asleep. It's still grinding away
at concerns of yesterday and worries abouttomorrow and things that you want to resolve
today. But even when you werewide awake and worried about it, we're
not able to do so you continuegrinding away these problems. And so we
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have these dreams where we're reliving experiencesor we're going through a different scenarios.
Very often we play an odd rolethere where we're all the people. We
don't really see the people, andthese are like black and white, sketchy,
sketchy, kind of bizarre, surrealexperiences. These are not real dreams.
I mean, they are real dreams, but they're not lucid, vivid,
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meaningful, impactful dreams. So whatI'm talking about when a dream is
more than a dream is when adream is in color, it's lucid,
it's vivid, it has great personalmeaning to you. It's maybe prophetic,
It analyzes, it solves a problem. It maybe takes you somewhere beyond time
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and space where you're an active participantand fully conscious. This is the most
important thing. You're fully conscious ofbeing there. So I always encourage people
that when they have a dream likethis, you know, try to find
yourself and recognize that you're there inthat dream and own the dream. You
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know, typically you say, well, look at your hands, Well,
you don't physically have hands. You'llhave maybe like an astral kind of outline
of something like a physical body that'slike an etheric ephemeral body, and it
will be a presence where you areare there in a subtle energy body,
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or actually a full armor of manysubtle energy bodies, probably everything but your
physical body. While your physical bodyis very rested and safe and peaceful and
shut down, lying in your bedor on your sofa. And this can
happen also in a day dream.It could actually happen when you're walking down
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the street. If you're not careful, you know, you could have elucid
dream practically any time, you know. And the interesting thing about what a
dream is more than a dream isyou go back thousands of years. All
right, let's talk about the ancients, because the pad a big part in
ancient civilizations and rituals. Excellanation.I guess this hour is von Broschler and
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Don and I will be back onthe other side of this break as the
xone continues right here from our broadcastcenter and studios in St. Catharine's,
Ontario, Canada, on your hometownRadio Classic twelve twenty streaming worldwide at www
dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.Are you a skeptic or are you a
believer? Always send me your repliesXon at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
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Will be back shortly. Don't goaway, ah, This is Michael Bolton,
wishing you all the very best thisholiday season and in the coming Nie.
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Everyday will be just like Pizma.I have just closed my eyes again.
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Climbs aboard the dream, weave thegame job and take away my resolved
today and leave tomorrow be Hurda.Welcome back everyone, This is the excellent
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I am Rob McConnell coming to herefrom our broadcast center and studios in Saint
Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, onyour hometown radio Classic twelve twenty streaming around
the world at Classic twelve twenty dot. CA le Broshley. Sorry, special
guest and von. Before we wentto the break, we were just getting
into the ancients and the significance ofdreams in their you know, their society
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as well as in their everyday life. And I was wondering if you could
take us back in history and giveus an idea of how important dreams were
to the ancients. Oh, veryimportant. For three thousand years, they've
been been trusted by kings and visionaryleaders in their most critical situations. And
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so we're just now beginning to studythem as you know, as psychologists and
medical science look at the at thesedreams. But the dreams have been treated
throughout time is divine revelation, prophecywindows to the soul. Really, so
it goes back like three thousand years, like I say, and it goes
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back to the ancient city of sumerthe area that produced the Mesopotamia, Syria,
Babylonia, all those cultures, Pikadia, and they very much in dreams.
Kings in Mesopotamia, for instance,they derived their guidance from from from
their dreams and they believed in them. The Sumerian king Gudea, he rebuilt
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a temple like two thousand BC orso for just from instructions that he received
in a dream. And from thisperiod we also have Gilgemesh, the epic
of Gilgamesh in the Akkadian Epic,and Gilgemesh he described travels to other realms
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and his personal meetings with deities.And then we have the Assyrian king who
built a temple to the god ofdreams, and that was around eight point
fifty BC. The Assyrians Babylonians thatlikewise they catalog their dreams as prophecy and
direction. So then following that,you know, it's a direct line from
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from the Chaldean to the Egyptians.In early like two thousand BC, the
Egyptians were recording their dreams on papyrusleaves, writing them down, and we
think that dream dictionaries and dream journalsare are kind of avant garde while they
were doing it two thousand BC.And they believe that their dreams they served
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as oracles, as messages from fromthe gods. And this is the recurring
theme that dreams could be prophetic ormessages from a higher source. Yeah,
so why do we dream? Bond? Why do we dream? Why do
I think we're trying to I thinkit is our inner soul, our spirit,
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or as I prefer to say,our spirit is coming out and it's
it's exploring its identity. And itdoes this in a number of ways.
It leaves the body, It travelsbeyond in space in a dream or otherwise
to to to further understand it itselfand who it is and its role.
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Uh it it. I think ourspirit is trying to understand it's connection to
higher source of consciousness. I thinkthis is you when people talk about higher
consciousness. You know, I don'tthink that our inner consciousness is particularly high
unless it's aligned with higher universal cosmicconsciousness. But that's that's I think that's
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what we do. I think Ithink our inner spirit longs to be free,
It longs to get outside of usand and and what what prevents us
from happening when dreams are less thana dream, is that your your your
your physical brain will act as aas a gatekeeper and saying oh no,
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no, nothing, nothing gets byme. You know, I'm in total
charge here. You know. Wedon't allow anybody to leave, We don't
allow anybody to come in. There'sno traveling around, none of this,
None of this is going to happen. There's gonna be no spirit slipping in
and slipping out. There's gonna beno exotic travel and discovery. We're gonna
play it safe, mister, playit real safe. And this is exactly
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what your physical brain is supposed todo in regard to safeguard your physical body.
It's in charge of your physical safetyand your well being, but it
absolutely needs to step aside. Solike in the Hindu tradition, they talked
about the the in meditation for consciousnessto come forth and to have these great
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moments of spirit discovery, that themind must be the slayer of the mind.
And I think that's kind of aI'm not saying it's a miss interpretation
of what was said, but it'san example of how words don't really convey
what's happening. There has to bean inner harmony where your physical brain and
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body allows itself to kind of,you know, go to a rest mode
so that your spirit can go outand explore. This idea of dream travel
and discovery and lucid dreaming is importantdream work and it should be undertaken by
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everybody. It should be planned outas the Egyptians and the Greeks did with
dream temples. I mean they haddream temples. They had oracles, you
know, they Hadmorpheus, the godof dreams. You know, they had
Hippocrates leading the charge, Aristotle sayingthat dreams could predict diagnose, Cicero in
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early Rome saying that dreams are producedby human conscious thought and result and visions
of an insightful nature and around theworld, you know, the Tibetans,
the early China that half of thesoul is free from the body during sleep
to visit a dream realm. Andnow we'd call this perhaps a dream scape,
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right, But I would say,I would say that in your dream,
your spirit could take you anywhere anywhereon this earth or beyond. Well,
what do we actually learn from ourdreams and will dreams have lessons that
we should learn how to pay attentionto. Yeah. Absolutely, you know.
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The thing about a dream work isthat you need to be very observant.
You're not going to be a participantin the sense that you're going to
have meaningful discussion. You you'll haveand if you have any discussion in a
lucid dream, it's likely to betelepathic, not verbal. If it's verbal,
it's like it's there are loud thoughtsin your head that resonate, but
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they're not not going to be auditory. See, you don't have hands,
you don't have feet, you don'thave a tongue. You know, for
all of this, and the fivephysical senses are gone and you're you're out
there with a new array of consciousawareness. Yes, yeah, and you're
you're aware. Your perceptive awareness iswhat's going to take you forward. And
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it's like being As I say,people are fascinated with remote viewing, this
is exactly what we're talking about.It's like being a fly on the wall.
And remember a fly as like onehundred eyes, right, a fly
sees all and knows all, andit's very aware of everything. So,
in short, I think that alucid dream or dream work is an opportunity
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to to observe and witness and takeit all in. This is what the
shamans would do, right, Imean in dream walking, you know,
and spirit walking you know, theshaman would would would go into this deep
trance which is much like lucid dreamingor meditation, and anyway, the shaman
would leave and go beyond normal timeand space. You can go back and
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talk to the ancestors, or listento the ancestors, actually go go or
go forward in time to see whatfuture holds for his people, and would
teach these skills to people as avision quest. But I've often wondered,
Vaughan, if this is what anashaman is doing a vision quest going back
in time or forward in time?If this is if this is not something
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that he is creating in his ownsubconscious Yeah, and then you have to
wonder what's the difference, you know, and you could you could lose sleep
tonight thinking about that, But yeah, I guess I guess what I'm trying
to say is like, how dowe know that he is really actually going
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back in time or going forward intime and that it's just not based on
his belief his desires, and ithas nothing to do with time, space
and and anything else except what heis creating in his own mind. Well,
except that he would seem to goback and and and and recognize ancestors
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and listen to them speaking. Andhe would, he would, they would
be known to him. But butbut I would, I would throw this
in too. I mean, yourargument is is a good one, Rob,
that that we do create our ownreality and and and our our vision
of the past, my past,your past realists. They seem to us
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we're trying to recreate it, notfully recognizing what it is, because I
mean, remember, you know,a priori knowledge, and how few of
us have ever ever come into intothe world with that, Uh yeah,
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and and and and and I'm said, that is uh that we don't know
how I all have this recollection,uh that some that some seem to do,
you know, with unerring detailed accountsof everything, to where they could
like recite a language or or orremember people or or or or lines of
a poem, or or how toplay the piano, having never been taught
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in this lifetime. But you know, I think that I think that we're
we're trying to we're trying to getback to a memory. And so we're
we're going in our consciousness and andour inner consciousness. It has a memory
too. It has a memory ofof not only what's transpired during this this
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physical life of ours, but presumablyof an earlier life, of a past
and and and presumably it has someinformation beyond us, you know, as
we tend to think of spirit ashaving guiding us with insight that that is
not known to us otherwise. Soif if this were true, then it
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would have to have a lot ofmemory bank, huge memory bank, and
and and and it and it probablydoesn't come as it goes buffeted through this
world and being born in the dramaof this life. But isn't that what
people total But isn't that what peopleare saying that the Akashak records are for?
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Oh yeah, well that the memorythat the a Kajak records are a
history of everything, right? Yeah? See, so I mean the Kashak
records exist on one on one level, you know, on an astral level,
one of the astral levels, andand they are a record of well
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histories, yeah, but moreover thereare they're a record of like I would
call them more like tendencies or likelihoodsor probabilities. Faw instead Bye, We've
had to take our break. Exponation. Von Braschlar is my special guest at
this hour. We're talking about dreams, time travel, and much more.
If you'd like to find out moreinformation about Von Broschlar, he has a
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Facebook page. And we'll be backon the other side of this very short
break as the X Zone continues.With heris Trili. Rob McConnell from our
broadcast centers and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario on your hometown radio, Classic
twelve twenty, streaming around the worldon Classic twelve twenty dot c A Don't
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go Away is Tomorrow. I'm RobMcConnell and welcome to the X Zone,
a place where fact is fiction andfiction is reality. Today on the X
Zone, what is the Star ofBethel? Who would ever have thought that
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the Rosetta stone, the identity ofthe Star of Bethlehem, would have been
found on an ancient Roman coin thatwas purchased in the spring of nineteen ninety
one by astronomer and coin collector doctorMichael Mulnar. Upon examining his newly acquired
coin, doctor Mulner noticed that theinscription of the coin was actually telling an
astrological story about the Star of Bethlehem. Using his facilities at Ruter's University and
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the philosophy of astrology, doctor Mulnerwas able to identify the Star of Bethlehem
as a rare planetary alignment of theplanet Jupiter, being in the House of
Areas on April seventeenth, six bC, the birth date of Jesus Christ.
These findings were supported by additional findingsas well. If you could read
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my love what Timm Thoms could tillJuice Black moving out of Ghost film moviation
well and a cast so done area far tres John with Jane upon my
feet. You know that ghost isme and I will never be said for
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as long as I'm a ghost thatyou can't see. Welcome back to the
excellent everyone. We're coming to youfrom our broadcast entering studio seeing Saint Catherine's,
Ontario, Canada on your hometown radioClassic twelve twenty, streaming worldwide at
Classic twelve twenty dot. Ca vonBroschler is our special guest this hour,
and Von do in your opinion,do those who have passed come to us
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in dreams. Yes, I thinkthey do, but I think there's a
there's a window for most of them. It's like the first three days after
they're passing. And many people willwill there's a lot of accounts of people.
I've interviewed people for another book,how this will happen so close to
the death of the loved one,and they'll come and they'll they'll see something
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revealing and it'll be like a goodbye. Really, And I think it's important
to not try to access, accessor contact the dead as they have to
move forward in their own existence,if you believe that there's life after this
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life, and as I do.And then but if they come to you,
you see, that's a whole othermatter. If they come to you
and they want to have a momentwith you for whatever reason, maybe just
to sit with you and for amoment, maybe say something. I think
it's wonderful, just wonderful. Haveyou yourself had experiences in the paranormal?
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For example, how you seen ghosts? You have let's hear could you sing
so? So? Uh? Iguess my biggest one has to do with
the woman that was my roommate andshe ended up in hospice and died young.
But there's a happy ending that's I'llget to. And it starts years
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before when I was working at theTheosophical Headquarters of in in Wheaton, Illinois,
National head Quarters. And I hadn'tbeen there very long, and I'd
taken over the in the publishing housefrom a man that had kind of started
the publishing division. And I startedgetting these calls the first summer I was
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there, and they and this isbefore cell phones, that's important to know.
And in the the rotary phone ringson my desk and I pick it
up, and clear as could be, I hear a man who sounds very
old and very very very much likean elderly man from India and East Indian
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and he is asking me if Iwould like to join him on a lightning
tour of India in the fall.And I said in the fall, And
he said, yes, autumn isthe best time, sir, He said,
I would do this in late Augustor early September. He said,
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as soon as I get my grouptogether. I do this every year.
And it is very profound. Itwould it would change your life. I
would show you things, it wouldchange your life. And I said well,
sir, I'm very flattered, youknow, And why did you ask
me? And he just like talksover me, like doesn't really respond to
me. He says, like,you must come with me, sir.
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He said, I have selected youto come on this tour of India with
me, this this fall my Lightningmy Lightning Rod tour of India. And
he said, we'll think about it. I said, well, I'm very
busy. I just started this joband we're doing so many fun things here,
and we'd started a radio series anda new magazine and all all kinds
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of fun things. And I said, I just can't do it. I
can't get back up and go andhe and he kept, you know,
not hearing that. He says,you must come with me. I will
call you again, sir, andthe line goes dead. Now, okay,
So I get another call like this, like I don't know, a
few days later, maybe a week, and he says basically the same thing,
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and I'm saying, like, Ican't go with you. I'm very
sorry. I don't know why youcalled. You must have been trying to
reach mister Patterson, who had thisjob for many decades before me, and
and and I don't know why youcalled me. And he said, no,
no, no, he said youmust come with me on my lightning
tour of India. And he goeson to explain how important it is,
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and he and linoes dead. Hisvoice is very clear, and I can
understand him very well, even thoughhe sounds very old and has a very
thick accent, you know. AndI'm thinking, like, oh, it's
somebody in their society, you know, and maybe because it's an international group,
somebody in India, you know.And I ask around, is there
anybody like that? So I goto the other buildings that were in the
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publication building, and the gal thatdoes the switchboard, I said, did
you switch a guy over here?I had a thick Indian accent, sounded
very very old. It happened likejust minutes ago, and then like a
week ago. No, no,no, no, he must have dialed
you directly, Von, I'd rememberanything like that. And I started asking
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different people, you know, andin both buildings, you know, I
thought I was being played, youknow, it was a set up,
a joke. No, they alllooked at me like I was crazy when
I started asking these questions. SoI get a third call and it's the
man again. And he says,if you can't come with me on my
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lightning a rod tour of India,I will give you one other thing that
will change your life forever, sir. I will teach you how to move
in the light. I said,move in the light. He said,
if you learned to meditate in theearly morning light, when the sun first
rises, beside running water, hesaid, you can. You can.
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You can be in the light andyou can move in the light. You
can become one with the light.And I said, were you talking about
meditation right? And it's like I'mthinking, like I have a big blanket
and we have a pond in theback, with a you know, arated
pond, and I'm thinking, howI can do this. He doesn't seem
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to recognize anything I'm saying, andhe just talks over me. He says,
you must learn to meditate in theearly light and the early morning light,
be side running water, and thiswill change your life forever, sir,
he said, believe me. Andhe never goes again. And I'm
thinking, oh my gosh, ohmy gosh. So I get I get
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out this blanket, this yellow blanket, somebody give me and I laid it
out next to the pond in theback of our grounds there and beside the
water end. It's incredible. It'sincredible to do this, to meditate an
early morning light. It profound experiencemeditating like that. And I'm thinking like,
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oh my gosh, who is thisguy? So I get to thinking,
like we have a We're on thethird floor, and on the first
floor is the bookstore called Quest Books. And I go down there. I
talk to the woman who's the manager, and he said, where are the
good books on meditation? She said, what do you mean, von the
good books on meditation? I said, I mean the ones written by the
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men in India, the masters,the really good stuff, not you know,
not the new gurus, the newstuff. Where are where are where
are the legitimate teachers? She said, Oh, down that row. So
I walked down that row and it'slike a dead end, you know,
It's like and I and there's afate a book face out and I picked
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it up and I flipped it overand I started reading the back and it
talked about this old man from Indiathat would lead people on a lightning rod
tour of India every year in theautumn months. And he would do this
every year for many, many years. It was a tradition. And they
said he was perhaps best known byas many students through the years as teaching
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a technique of meditating in the morninglight beside water, fascinating. And then
it said the year he was born, and it listed the year he had
died. It was two years beforehe called me. Talk about geting a
call from the other side. Soso I so so I actually, you
know, played with that a lot. And later on I moved to Minnesota,
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and and I had her roommate whohad had a scare with brain cancer.
But she she'd recovered, and shewas she'd been written up in books
with as an amazing recovery example.She said it was cousin's cat sat on
her, sat on her and purred, but she was she was given up
as dead. And then she shemade this spontaneous recovery, and you know,
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and she went on the radio andeverything for a while. And so
she came to live with me,and then she got very, very sick.
We held a meeting at her houseand tried to encourage her to go
to an intervention. I guess youcall it encouraged her to go in for
testing. And yes, yes ithad. It had come back, and
and and and the and the cancerhad spread throughout all her rain. The
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operator they couldn't get it, andshe had to go into hospice. So
I taught her when she was inhospice how to meditate in the early morning
light beside water. How do Ido that? There was a window that
came through the hospice and it itwould if I could move the bed a
little to the right and a littlebit forward, the light would shine on
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her from the window. And thenI had this little thing I put next
on the desk next to her bedthat created water, run running water.
And we did that and and andwe we we practiced this. We we
practice actually leaving our bodies together ina in a in a in a meditation
and and and going through different youknow levels, I mean different different subtle
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energy levels. And and it wasit was really incredible. I mean,
we we we so many of usthink our world is this physical world.
Beyond the physical plane, there areother planes of existence. There's the metal
plane, you know, the astralplane. There are many many planes of
existence. And we explored all ofthose and I took her up pretty far,
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up to a spiritual level, andthe color started getting very blue,
and everything changed. And I cameback and at that time she no longer
had the ability to speak, butshe would do these exercises with me.
And I said, dab, Isaid, I said, I think you
could go on your own. Now. I can't take you where you need
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to go next, but I thinkyou can do it yourself, don't you.
And she squeezed my hand really tight, and she looked me right square
in the eyes and said the firstword she'd said in weeks. She said
yes. Next morning she died,and when and I went home after she
died. There she was playing withher cat. Now I thought, huh,
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okay, so and she went upstairsand then there was music in the
room. Okay, hold on here, hold on here. She was dead.
Yeah, but she was at yourhouse and she walked upstairs to the
Okay, I'm just you. SheI remember. She was playing with her
cat. She claimed it had beenso helpful and reviving her the first time.
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And an old and old wizard.She's playing with him with a pink
ribbon. And I'd never seen thispink ribbon before. But after she finished
playing, she dropped the ribbon andcurled, curled, curled, as ribbons
will do, and fell in thiswicker basket. And I went and I
after she just she went up thestairs. I went to the basket and
found the pink ribbon. I said, I've never seen this pink ribbon before.
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Stan By Vaughn, We're going tohave to take a bit of a
cliffhanger. Hare ex o ation VonBrochlar's our guest. His Facebook page is
I just had it here a secondago. Facebook dot Com forward slash the
Brashlar, and we'll come back talkingabout more of this fascinating information. Consciousness
to the light as we continue hearingthe X Zone from our broadcast center and
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studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty.
That's good, just like a oldtime. I'm dreamy. Now. This
is Nick Pope here from Nick Popedot Net. I'd like to wish Rob
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McColl everyone at the X Zone Radioshow and all your listeners are very happy
Christmas, and I wish you everyhappiness in two thousand and eight. Oh,
it's a long road back, Iprom me you it's amazing how you
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can speak grand to my we havethat same word. You can light up
the dog trys on me, Ican or explain why I came when you
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don't say a thing. The sunlandsman On Braschlar's my special guest of this
hour. X O Nation, thisFacebook pages, Facebook dot com, forward
slash v Brashlar and we're coming toyou right here on this frequency twelve twenty
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from our broadcast station and studios inSaint Catharines, Ontario, on your hometown
Classic twelve twenty and streamed around theworld on Classic twelve twenty dot. Yeah.
All right, that story that youtold us before we went to the
break, Vaughn was it was hardto believe. Yeah, it is a
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little hard to believe. Now I'mnot you know, i'd like to I'd
like to preface this by saying,it's not that I don't believe it.
Well, yeah, there are alot of people. There were a lot
of moving parts in this. Andthey she had a group of people we
tried very very hard to do hospiceat home and and and these were the
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people who actually were part of theintervention that got her into the hospital for
the testing. Now how how howit came back that at the age of
thirty three, she was going todie after going through an eight year recovery
and having had cancer for seven years. You know, it's like, I
can't figure this out, you know, and and and and but but the
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way she died was I honestly feltthat having learned to do this kind of
kind of uh meditation with her uhwhich was kind of directed by the man
who gave me these mysterious phone callsyears earlier, had a part in her
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ability to walk freely out of thatplace. And and I and I kept
telling the woman who was in chargeof the hospice was run by a Catholic
order, and and and and andand Sister Luke was the head nurse,
and they had none And I toldSister Luke, I said, Deb's going
to walk out of here. Shesaid, Vaughan. Nobody walks out of
here. Nobody, I said,Deb will And and I honestly think I
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honestly think she did. I thinkI think that that that she's a free
person. And my takeaway from thisis that everybody needs to learn uh conscious
living and conscious dying, because ifif your if, if your consciousness is
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really at a at a high levelin touch with universal consciousness. If you're
really highly conscious when you die,then you'll die a conscious death and it
won't be a sudden scary thing,you know, like we read in the
Tibetan Book of the Dead, ofthe horrors that people go through because they're
not ready to die. Well,that's how we get ghosts. I mean,
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I was a ghost hunter for awhile, and it's a terrible thing
to encounter people who are so scared, are so confused, are so holding
on to life when they die thatthey can't move forward, but to be
ready to actually get up and walkout, because, like I told it
again and again, the fact thatyou don't have the ability to stand on
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your feet and walk out of heredoes not mean that you can't walk out
of here. And I honestly think, I honestly think that she could because
when she dropped that pink ribbon inthe basket and went upstairs, and I
heard the music coming out of theroom, and I got to thinking,
You're like, should I go inthere and see her? So I went
in there and the room was empty. Because what I'd forgotten was that all
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of our things had been removed byher parents because they knew she was going
to die. There was no stereo, there was no bed, there was
nothing there. Yet I heard themusic, and the music stopped when I
turned the doorknob and walked inside.Now, I went out in the hallway
and there was a little closet whereshe, I don't know, she kept
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towels there. And I got tothinking, you know, like gosh,
did they get it all? Youknow? And I went on in the
hallway. They did get all thetowels and everything. But there was a
box of pink ribbons that she hadbeen working on before she went in the
hospice, had been working on tomake as Christmas presents for people. Oh,
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I had never seen that before.There was a secret thing, a
secret basket. Nobody knew that.And and and so I think it was
It was an eye opener for me, you know. And now I think
about life and I think about death, and I think that death is and
what people think it is. AndI think that the life isn't what people
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think it is. It's like we'renot we're not fully awake people, you
know, we're sleep walking through life, and when we die, we're confused.
Well, I think it. Youknow, if if if we do
if we do proper dream work,if we learn to meditate, if we
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tune our consciousness and become more awareof everything around us and including why we're
here and what we should be doingin our life, then I think I
think things are gonna things are goingto work out better for us. I
think, for one thing, we'regoing to die with the purpose, and
that purpose will be to continue ourevolution as as souls. Because I think
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that it's just a continual merry goround of people coming here, riding around
the merry ground and having a wonderfultime riding the wooden horse that's on that
carousel, and the music stops,and we call that the end the end.
There is no end. The musicstarts again, and you go to
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another horse and you continue going aroundthe carousel. So is this all?
Is this all part of reincarnation?Reincarnation? Absolutely, it's a never ending
cycle. It'll never ever end never. So if it never ends, one,
where did it start? I thinkit started with consciousness. Actually,
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I think there are two things thatbring life into into motion, and that
is consciousness and light. And Ithink you know, in the Hindu philosophy.
They call that shakti and shiva.And when consciousness and like come together.
There when when conscious when light reachesconsciousness, that is reality. That
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is our reality. And that's whywe're here, I mean, are we're
here to to to allow our consciousnessto experience this life in different manifestations,
in different scenarios, so that ithas some greater meaning to the universal flow,
the continuum of life, if youwill, that is universal consciousness.
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So am I to understand that eachand every person who comes to this plane,
at this plane is supposed to learnsomething, gather information that is fed
to the universe, the universe.That's what I think, Rob, I
mean just one guy's opinion. Butto me, this is a big it's
a big Easter egg hunt. Imean, it's like everybody is is is
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on a discovery mission in this lifeto find out things. It's all about
discovery. Discovery is everything. Andask me what we're supposed to discover.
I think it's different for every oneof us. But if all this information
is going back to the universe,why do we need to keep on reliving
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it or experiencing new scenarios When allthis information that has been already submitted back
to the universe by millions upon millionsupon millions of Yeah, well, but
see, there is no end.You know. That's like we tend to
think in terms that are linear beginning, a middle, and it's ongoing.
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It continues to unfold and evolve,it'll and it'll continue to evolve forever and
ever. You know, there's there'sno beginning, there's no end. But
it seems at times that we arehere as as puppets, as collectors for
unseen masters. So back to theAcashak records. I know that a lot
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of people want to think of theAkashak Records is the place where you can
go. I always think of likethe movie roller Ball, you know,
and Jonathan goes and he wants tolook in the hall of records and find
out what's going on, what's goingon? And you know, it's like
we'd all like to just go andhere's my library card, now tell me
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what's going on. But you know, it's not that easy, you know,
because there are so many variables inhow things unfold. I mean,
it's true, you know, asEinstein suggested, that the past, present,
and future are all happening simultaneous simultaneously. It is highly likely that they're
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all progressing and that yesterday has notended and tomorrow is already hear, but
we're only experiencing this moment where we'restanding right now, and we only experience
what we see in front of us. That's our limitation, you know.
So so we have to actually liveout every every every scenario. There are
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so many variables, and there's somany ripples in in in everybody's life that
will that will impact other lives.So you can't say that everything is prescripted.
It's impossible to prescript anything. Sothey're only there are only energy tendencies.
You know. It's like, atthis moment in time, it looks
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like it's going to happen this way. You know. I always think of
people that they they they are soslavishly uh dependent on following their numeral numerology
charts or their astrology charts, youknow. But but there are so many
things that will will affect these things, you know, And you can you
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can do the tarot cards and thisshows you how things seem to be going
right now, but it could allchange tomorrow. It could change by what
you do and what your neighbor does. Yeah, but I've found that a
lot of the tarot card readings,the tea leave readings, the astrology,
the numerology is based on the onthe way that the reader is interpreting the
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information. You get two people withthe same spread of tarot cards or the
same numerological sequence, and you're goingto get different answers. Reader bias.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, readerbias. Well, that happens with everything,
any any kind of divination, likegazing. You and I could look
at the sky and do skygazing.We see different things. Sure perception,
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which is wrong? I don't know, Vron. We've got about a minute
before I have to say so longto you. What is your final final
words of wisdom to the listening audienceof the Explanation tonight on Classic twelve twenty.
Hey, gang, keep up thekeep up the journey. The journey
is everything. We're all We're allon a journey to Oz and it's it
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might seem like a dream at theend when you wake up and Annie m
shakes you and says, honey,it was only a dream. But we're
all going to get to OZ.You know, I think that every one
of us is on a journey andI think it's really important that we prepare
for the journey. You pack justa little bit more than the fool who
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goes off on the journey with thatknapsack and the tarot card, and and
and and and really and really embracethe journey. You know, don't be
afraid of the obstacles that are outthere, the supernatural allies and enemies,
and the gatekeepers that make your hero'sjourney difficult. Your journey is a journey
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of of of of a hero.Vaughan, thank you so much for joining
us. I look forward to thenext time you meet us back here in
the X zone. Until then,take care of yourself and to you and
yours, the very best of theseason. Thank you, sir. Good
night, Vaughn. Explanation. Iguess this hour has been von Braschler on
Facebook dot com forward slash v Braschlar. He's got a number of books.
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Very interesting man. I call hima philosopher, philosopher of the unknown.
I'll be back tomorrow night at letme see eleven o'clock Eastern. As once
again we continue our quest into thesearching for answers demanding of truth in the
world of parapsychology and paranormal So untilthen, my friends, I am Rob
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McConnell. Keep your eyes to thesky and your heart to the light,
and keep your radio's tuned to yourtown radio Classic twelve twenty
Ah Henry. Welcome to the XZone, a place where fact is fiction
and fiction is reality. Now here'syour host, Rob hacconnell to in that
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thing YouTube, bringing the on intoa million pieces like you always do until
needs to be. And good eveningeveryone. This is the Xhone. I
am Rob McConnell and we're coming toyou from our broadcast center in studios in
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Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,on Classic twelve twenty and streaming on Classic
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If you have questions that weren't answeredby our past guests that we had,
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just send me that email. Lovegetting your comments and hopefully we'll be
able to solve a few problems thatyou might have. My guess this hour
Exponation is von Broschler. He isan author of several books on consciousness expansion
and has published books on everything fromtime travel to lucid dreams, thought power,
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out of body travel, ghosts,and energy healing. He is a
former member of the Omega Institute forHolistic Studies in Rhinebeck, New York,
and has led workshops throughout the UnitedStates and the United Kingdom. He is
a former award winning journalist. Currently, Vaughn lives on a small rustic island
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in the San Juan Islands, justoff the coast of Washington State near Vancouver,
BC. Joining me now is vonBroshlar and Vaughn. Welcome back to
the excellent nice having you with us. Thank you, Rob. It's so
kind if you get to have meback. I've been on the show,
but a long time ago. Yes, And as it seems that more and
more people are interested in the topicsthat you talk about, you know,
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dreams, past lives, time,traveling, consciousness than ever before. More
and more people are asking these seriousquestions and to what do you attribute that
to? Von Well, I thinkthat these are the big these these are
the gateway to the important questions Whoam I? Why am I here?
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What am I supposed to be doingin my life? What is it I'm
supposed to remember? And how doI get on with doing what I'm supposed
to do here? I think theseare the big questions and all of these
are like salad dressing to addressing thosequestions. Now, I didn't pick any
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of these questions, any of thesetopics that I'm write about. They just
seem to come to me as theycome to everybody else, that these are
the topics that we need to focuson. Faun. What started you on
your quest into all the topics thatyou are interested in? What happened in
your life? I thought I hada normal childhood, but I guess I
didn't. I came back from thefirst grade and the kid across the street
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and said, what do you meanwhen you stood up and everybody was supposed
to say where they were from originally, and you cited a planet that I've
never heard of, And I said, I don't know. It just came
to me. I guess I've alwaysbeen kind of a little out of sorts.
I've had a lot of odd thingshappened to me, even at a
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young age that seemed hard to explainat the time, And now that I'm
older, I can see that itwas always kind of like, as I
like to say, spirit guiding me. I had a lot of people along
the way they kind of led meand then disappeared you know, strange,
strange people would come into my life, and the strange things would happen to
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me, even when I was ayoung, young youngster. Really, what
was the strangest thing that happened toyou as youngster? Yeah, I don't
know if I talked about this whenI was on your show last. It
was a while ago, raw,but I was like, I think eleven
or twelve. I think it's twelveyears old, and all of the kids
in the neighborhood were fascinated with thisyellow school bus and it wasn't a school
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bus, and it was an old, beat up thing. And they on
the side that said pickers wanted wellthey had berry fields and they wanted kids
to come and pick berries. Well, I had no real interest in picking
berries. But what I heard wasthere was a nice river we could go
and you know, sit along anddip in and swim during lunch hour.
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Well I thought lunch hour was assoon as I got there, and it
extended throughout the day. And asfar as the berries, I was all
for picking the berries. I justate them all. I think I turned
in one box. So anyway,I'd been there a little while and I
got very, very sick, andsomeone said, oh, you swam too
much and ate too many berries.And so I went and talked to the
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man who ran the bus and said, you've got to take me home.
I have a terrible pain in mystomach like I've never felt before. I
think it's serious now, you know, I don't really get I'm one that
keeps his pain to himself, soyou know. But he didn't know that,
and he said, oh, youwait, kid, we all go
home at the same time. Sothen I talked to the man who was
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owned the very field, mister Behringer, and he said, you know,
you wait till the bus leaves andwe'll take you home. Don't worry,
just sit down. You don't haveto work anymore. Well, I felt
really sick, and I told myfriend, said, I noticed that the
railroad track ran across when he cameonto the berry field. Every day we
would come across and run all overthis railroad track. And I said,
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if I just followed these railroad tracks, it'll take me to my home.
They said, oh, no,no, no, no, I said,
no, it stops in front ofmy house. Well, I started
to walk, and I started towalk, and I got halfway out of
their vision. And then I startedto go around a bunch of overgrown bushes
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along the track at a curve,and I could no longer see them,
and I took one big step andeverything got dark. And then the next
thing I knew, I was infront of my house and I stepped down
from the railroad track, which wasvery high up. I remember that.
I went into the house and Iflopped on my mother's bed, and when
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she came to the room, Isaid, you've got to take me to
the doctor. She said, oh, if you're just lie down, i'll
get you some seven up. Isaid, no, no, it's seven
up. I'm really sick. Shesaid, well, just relax. So
she waited until morning, and shecalled our family doctor, and he was
golfing, of course, of course, and he said, well, take
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him the way you've described it.It sounds like a pedicitis, and you
take him to the hospital and I'llbe there as soon as I finished the
back nine. I'll never forget that. And when he got there, my
appendix had already burst. But ofcourse I survived luckily, and I got
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to the hospital none too soon.The odd thing about this story, Rob
is that the railroad tracks don't stopin front of my house. They don't.
No. So the next year,I'm out in the backyard and I,
you know, everybody says, everybodysays, how did you get home?
And how did it all happen?You know, you got home in
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just in time? And how didyou find your way home? Because the
railroad you know, you know,how did how did? And I would
say, oh, I don't wantto talk about it because I couldn't explain
it. It didn't make any senseto me, so I just blank blanked
it out. And frankly, Ithink this is true of a lot of
people that have odd or paranormal activitieshappening to them, things that they can't
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explain, you know, things thatare unknown to us. And in this
case, the next year, Ilooked out and I had to admit that
there were no railroad tracks indeed thatwent in front of our house, nowhere
near our house. But a yearlater we moved north of that city,
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and the railroad track did cross infront of our house, just as I
had seen. It's a strange story, you know, and it's like so,
you know, I tried to explainwhat had happened to me, you
know, and and how this happened. But it seemed to me that it
was it was very mystical, youknow. I mean I had absolutely folded
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time and space because when I gotthere, it was it was dark,
but it all happened like in aflash, like in a second, and
I was instantly home. And thenhow did I Here's the thing. These
railroad tracks they go all different ways. People that notice railroads, they they
don't follow, you know, lineslike like like highways or roadways. They
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don't go to everybody's house. Theydon't. It's not like a bus line.
I mean they in our case,they went along the river and along
the bay, and we were halfwayin between the river and the bay.
And so it's it's really odd thatI would think of it that way.
But I was so confident that Iwould be home, that I was home,
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you know. But when I gothome it was much later in the
day, you know, it shouldhave been like afternoon. So I think
I'm one guy who's actually stepped outof time and space and never gotten back
those three hours that I lost.You know, you've you've led a fascinating
career. You you're and you know, you talk many subjects you know,
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time and space, consciousness, andand it seems that one of the topics
that that you're you do a lotof talking for is about dreams. And
I've read somewhere that you said,sometimes a dream is more than a dream.
What did you mean by that?Yeah, you know, we have
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a way of looking at dreams inour society today that they're just like memories
that were flashing through our head.They're like things that are of concern to
us. And this is true ofa lot of low level dreams. These
are dreams of a restless night whereyou're you're you're not totally asleep, your
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analytical mind, your brain is certainlynot fully asleep. It's still grinding away
at concerns of yesterday and worries abouttomorrow and things that you want to resolve
today. But even when you werewide awake and worried about it, we're
not able to do so you continuegrinding away these problems. And so we
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have these dreams where we're reliving experiencesor we're going through a different scenarios.
Very often we play an odd rolethere where we're all the people. We
don't really see the people, andthese are like black and white, sketchy,
sketchy, kind of bizarre, surrealexperiences. These are not real dreams.
I mean, they are real dreams, but they're not lucid, vivid,
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meaningful, impactful dreams. So whatI'm talking about when a dream is
more than a dream is when adream is in color, it's lucid,
it's vivid, it has great personalmeaning to you. It's maybe prophetic,
It analyzes, it solves a problem. It maybe takes you somewhere beyond time
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and space where you're an active participantand fully conscious. This is the most
important thing. You're fully conscious ofbeing there. So I always encourage people
that when they have a dream likethis, you know, try to find
yourself and recognize that you're there inthat dream and own the dream. You
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know, typically you say, well, look at your hands, Well,
you don't physically have hands. You'llhave maybe like an astral kind of outline
of something like a physical body that'slike an etheric ephemeral body, and it
will be a presence where you areare there in a subtle energy body,
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or actually a full armor of manysubtle energy bodies, probably everything but your
physical body. While your physical bodyis very rested and safe and peaceful and
shut down, lying in your bedor on your sofa. And this can
happen also in a day dream.It could actually happen when you're walking down
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the street. If you're not careful, you know, you could have elucid
dream practically any time, you know. And the interesting thing about what a
dream is more than a dream isyou go back thousands of years. All
right, let's talk about the ancients, because the pad a big part in
ancient civilizations and rituals. Excellanation.I guess this hour is von Broschler and
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Don and I will be back onthe other side of this break as the
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Will be back shortly. Don't goaway, ah, This is Michael Bolton,
wishing you all the very best thisholiday season and in the coming Nie.
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Everyday will be just like Pizma.I have just closed my eyes again.
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Climbs aboard the dream, weave thegame job and take away my resolved
today and leave tomorrow be Hurda.Welcome back everyone, This is the excellent
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I am Rob McConnell coming to herefrom our broadcast center and studios in Saint
Catherine's, Ontario, Canada, onyour hometown radio Classic twelve twenty streaming around
the world at Classic twelve twenty dot. CA le Broshley. Sorry, special
guest and von. Before we wentto the break, we were just getting
into the ancients and the significance ofdreams in their you know, their society
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as well as in their everyday life. And I was wondering if you could
take us back in history and giveus an idea of how important dreams were
to the ancients. Oh, veryimportant. For three thousand years, they've
been been trusted by kings and visionaryleaders in their most critical situations. And
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so we're just now beginning to studythem as you know, as psychologists and
medical science look at the at thesedreams. But the dreams have been treated
throughout time is divine revelation, prophecywindows to the soul. Really, so
it goes back like three thousand years, like I say, and it goes
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back to the ancient city of sumerthe area that produced the Mesopotamia, Syria,
Babylonia, all those cultures, Pikadia, and they very much in dreams.
Kings in Mesopotamia, for instance,they derived their guidance from from from
their dreams and they believed in them. The Sumerian king Gudea, he rebuilt
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a temple like two thousand BC orso for just from instructions that he received
in a dream. And from thisperiod we also have Gilgemesh, the epic
of Gilgamesh in the Akkadian Epic,and Gilgemesh he described travels to other realms
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and his personal meetings with deities.And then we have the Assyrian king who
built a temple to the god ofdreams, and that was around eight point
fifty BC. The Assyrians Babylonians thatlikewise they catalog their dreams as prophecy and
direction. So then following that,you know, it's a direct line from
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from the Chaldean to the Egyptians.In early like two thousand BC, the
Egyptians were recording their dreams on papyrusleaves, writing them down, and we
think that dream dictionaries and dream journalsare are kind of avant garde while they
were doing it two thousand BC.And they believe that their dreams they served
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as oracles, as messages from fromthe gods. And this is the recurring
theme that dreams could be prophetic ormessages from a higher source. Yeah,
so why do we dream? Bond? Why do we dream? Why do
I think we're trying to I thinkit is our inner soul, our spirit,
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or as I prefer to say,our spirit is coming out and it's
it's exploring its identity. And itdoes this in a number of ways.
It leaves the body, It travelsbeyond in space in a dream or otherwise
to to to further understand it itselfand who it is and its role.
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Uh it it. I think ourspirit is trying to understand it's connection to
higher source of consciousness. I thinkthis is you when people talk about higher
consciousness. You know, I don'tthink that our inner consciousness is particularly high
unless it's aligned with higher universal cosmicconsciousness. But that's that's I think that's
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what we do. I think Ithink our inner spirit longs to be free,
It longs to get outside of usand and and what what prevents us
from happening when dreams are less thana dream, is that your your your
your physical brain will act as aas a gatekeeper and saying oh no,
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no, nothing, nothing gets byme. You know, I'm in total
charge here. You know. Wedon't allow anybody to leave, We don't
allow anybody to come in. There'sno traveling around, none of this,
None of this is going to happen. There's gonna be no spirit slipping in
and slipping out. There's gonna beno exotic travel and discovery. We're gonna
play it safe, mister, playit real safe. And this is exactly
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what your physical brain is supposed todo in regard to safeguard your physical body.
It's in charge of your physical safetyand your well being, but it
absolutely needs to step aside. Solike in the Hindu tradition, they talked
about the the in meditation for consciousnessto come forth and to have these great
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moments of spirit discovery, that themind must be the slayer of the mind.
And I think that's kind of aI'm not saying it's a miss interpretation
of what was said, but it'san example of how words don't really convey
what's happening. There has to bean inner harmony where your physical brain and
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body allows itself to kind of,you know, go to a rest mode
so that your spirit can go outand explore. This idea of dream travel
and discovery and lucid dreaming is importantdream work and it should be undertaken by
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everybody. It should be planned outas the Egyptians and the Greeks did with
dream temples. I mean they haddream temples. They had oracles, you
know, they Hadmorpheus, the godof dreams. You know, they had
Hippocrates leading the charge, Aristotle sayingthat dreams could predict diagnose, Cicero in
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early Rome saying that dreams are producedby human conscious thought and result and visions
of an insightful nature and around theworld, you know, the Tibetans,
the early China that half of thesoul is free from the body during sleep
to visit a dream realm. Andnow we'd call this perhaps a dream scape,
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right, But I would say,I would say that in your dream,
your spirit could take you anywhere anywhereon this earth or beyond. Well,
what do we actually learn from ourdreams and will dreams have lessons that
we should learn how to pay attentionto. Yeah. Absolutely, you know.
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The thing about a dream work isthat you need to be very observant.
You're not going to be a participantin the sense that you're going to
have meaningful discussion. You you'll haveand if you have any discussion in a
lucid dream, it's likely to betelepathic, not verbal. If it's verbal,
it's like it's there are loud thoughtsin your head that resonate, but
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they're not not going to be auditory. See, you don't have hands,
you don't have feet, you don'thave a tongue. You know, for
all of this, and the fivephysical senses are gone and you're you're out
there with a new array of consciousawareness. Yes, yeah, and you're
you're aware. Your perceptive awareness iswhat's going to take you forward. And
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it's like being As I say,people are fascinated with remote viewing, this
is exactly what we're talking about.It's like being a fly on the wall.
And remember a fly as like onehundred eyes, right, a fly
sees all and knows all, andit's very aware of everything. So,
in short, I think that alucid dream or dream work is an opportunity
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to to observe and witness and takeit all in. This is what the
shamans would do, right, Imean in dream walking, you know,
and spirit walking you know, theshaman would would would go into this deep
trance which is much like lucid dreamingor meditation, and anyway, the shaman
would leave and go beyond normal timeand space. You can go back and
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talk to the ancestors, or listento the ancestors, actually go go or
go forward in time to see whatfuture holds for his people, and would
teach these skills to people as avision quest. But I've often wondered,
Vaughan, if this is what anashaman is doing a vision quest going back
in time or forward in time?If this is if this is not something
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that he is creating in his ownsubconscious Yeah, and then you have to
wonder what's the difference, you know, and you could you could lose sleep
tonight thinking about that, But yeah, I guess I guess what I'm trying
to say is like, how dowe know that he is really actually going
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back in time or going forward intime and that it's just not based on
his belief his desires, and ithas nothing to do with time, space
and and anything else except what heis creating in his own mind. Well,
except that he would seem to goback and and and and recognize ancestors
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and listen to them speaking. Andhe would, he would, they would
be known to him. But butbut I would, I would throw this
in too. I mean, yourargument is is a good one, Rob,
that that we do create our ownreality and and and our our vision
of the past, my past,your past realists. They seem to us
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we're trying to recreate it, notfully recognizing what it is, because I
mean, remember, you know,a priori knowledge, and how few of
us have ever ever come into intothe world with that, Uh yeah,
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and and and and and I'm said, that is uh that we don't know
how I all have this recollection,uh that some that some seem to do,
you know, with unerring detailed accountsof everything, to where they could
like recite a language or or orremember people or or or or lines of
a poem, or or how toplay the piano, having never been taught
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in this lifetime. But you know, I think that I think that we're
we're trying to we're trying to getback to a memory. And so we're
we're going in our consciousness and andour inner consciousness. It has a memory
too. It has a memory ofof not only what's transpired during this this
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physical life of ours, but presumablyof an earlier life, of a past
and and and presumably it has someinformation beyond us, you know, as
we tend to think of spirit ashaving guiding us with insight that that is
not known to us otherwise. Soif if this were true, then it
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would have to have a lot ofmemory bank, huge memory bank, and
and and and it and it probablydoesn't come as it goes buffeted through this
world and being born in the dramaof this life. But isn't that what
people total But isn't that what peopleare saying that the Akashak records are for?
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Oh yeah, well that the memorythat the a Kajak records are a
history of everything, right? Yeah? See, so I mean the Kashak
records exist on one on one level, you know, on an astral level,
one of the astral levels, andand they are a record of well
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histories, yeah, but moreover thereare they're a record of like I would
call them more like tendencies or likelihoodsor probabilities. Faw instead Bye, We've
had to take our break. Exponation. Von Braschlar is my special guest at
this hour. We're talking about dreams, time travel, and much more.
If you'd like to find out moreinformation about Von Broschlar, he has a
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Facebook page. And we'll be backon the other side of this very short
break as the X Zone continues.With heris Trili. Rob McConnell from our
broadcast centers and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario on your hometown radio, Classic
twelve twenty, streaming around the worldon Classic twelve twenty dot c A Don't
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go Away is Tomorrow. I'm RobMcConnell and welcome to the X Zone,
a place where fact is fiction andfiction is reality. Today on the X
Zone, what is the Star ofBethel? Who would ever have thought that
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the Rosetta stone, the identity ofthe Star of Bethlehem, would have been
found on an ancient Roman coin thatwas purchased in the spring of nineteen ninety
one by astronomer and coin collector doctorMichael Mulnar. Upon examining his newly acquired
coin, doctor Mulner noticed that theinscription of the coin was actually telling an
astrological story about the Star of Bethlehem. Using his facilities at Ruter's University and
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the philosophy of astrology, doctor Mulnerwas able to identify the Star of Bethlehem
as a rare planetary alignment of theplanet Jupiter, being in the House of
Areas on April seventeenth, six bC, the birth date of Jesus Christ.
These findings were supported by additional findingsas well. If you could read
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my love what Timm Thoms could tillJuice Black moving out of Ghost film moviation
well and a cast so done area far tres John with Jane upon my
feet. You know that ghost isme and I will never be said for
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as long as I'm a ghost thatyou can't see. Welcome back to the
excellent everyone. We're coming to youfrom our broadcast entering studio seeing Saint Catherine's,
Ontario, Canada on your hometown radioClassic twelve twenty, streaming worldwide at
Classic twelve twenty dot. Ca vonBroschler is our special guest this hour,
and Von do in your opinion,do those who have passed come to us
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in dreams. Yes, I thinkthey do, but I think there's a
there's a window for most of them. It's like the first three days after
they're passing. And many people willwill there's a lot of accounts of people.
I've interviewed people for another book,how this will happen so close to
the death of the loved one,and they'll come and they'll they'll see something
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revealing and it'll be like a goodbye. Really, And I think it's important
to not try to access, accessor contact the dead as they have to
move forward in their own existence,if you believe that there's life after this
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life, and as I do.And then but if they come to you,
you see, that's a whole othermatter. If they come to you
and they want to have a momentwith you for whatever reason, maybe just
to sit with you and for amoment, maybe say something. I think
it's wonderful, just wonderful. Haveyou yourself had experiences in the paranormal?
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For example, how you seen ghosts? You have let's hear could you sing
so? So? Uh? Iguess my biggest one has to do with
the woman that was my roommate andshe ended up in hospice and died young.
But there's a happy ending that's I'llget to. And it starts years
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before when I was working at theTheosophical Headquarters of in in Wheaton, Illinois,
National head Quarters. And I hadn'tbeen there very long, and I'd
taken over the in the publishing housefrom a man that had kind of started
the publishing division. And I startedgetting these calls the first summer I was
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there, and they and this isbefore cell phones, that's important to know.
And in the the rotary phone ringson my desk and I pick it
up, and clear as could be, I hear a man who sounds very
old and very very very much likean elderly man from India and East Indian
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and he is asking me if Iwould like to join him on a lightning
tour of India in the fall.And I said in the fall, And
he said, yes, autumn isthe best time, sir, He said,
I would do this in late Augustor early September. He said,
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as soon as I get my grouptogether. I do this every year.
And it is very profound. Itwould it would change your life. I
would show you things, it wouldchange your life. And I said well,
sir, I'm very flattered, youknow, And why did you ask
me? And he just like talksover me, like doesn't really respond to
me. He says, like,you must come with me, sir.
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He said, I have selected youto come on this tour of India with
me, this this fall my Lightningmy Lightning Rod tour of India. And
he said, we'll think about it. I said, well, I'm very
busy. I just started this joband we're doing so many fun things here,
and we'd started a radio series anda new magazine and all all kinds
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of fun things. And I said, I just can't do it. I
can't get back up and go andhe and he kept, you know,
not hearing that. He says,you must come with me. I will
call you again, sir, andthe line goes dead. Now, okay,
So I get another call like this, like I don't know, a
few days later, maybe a week, and he says basically the same thing,
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and I'm saying, like, Ican't go with you. I'm very
sorry. I don't know why youcalled. You must have been trying to
reach mister Patterson, who had thisjob for many decades before me, and
and and I don't know why youcalled me. And he said, no,
no, no, he said youmust come with me on my lightning
tour of India. And he goeson to explain how important it is,
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and he and linoes dead. Hisvoice is very clear, and I can
understand him very well, even thoughhe sounds very old and has a very
thick accent, you know. AndI'm thinking, like, oh, it's
somebody in their society, you know, and maybe because it's an international group,
somebody in India, you know.And I ask around, is there
anybody like that? So I goto the other buildings that were in the
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publication building, and the gal thatdoes the switchboard, I said, did
you switch a guy over here?I had a thick Indian accent, sounded
very very old. It happened likejust minutes ago, and then like a
week ago. No, no,no, no, he must have dialed
you directly, Von, I'd rememberanything like that. And I started asking
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different people, you know, andin both buildings, you know, I
thought I was being played, youknow, it was a set up,
a joke. No, they alllooked at me like I was crazy when
I started asking these questions. SoI get a third call and it's the
man again. And he says,if you can't come with me on my
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lightning a rod tour of India,I will give you one other thing that
will change your life forever, sir. I will teach you how to move
in the light. I said,move in the light. He said,
if you learned to meditate in theearly morning light, when the sun first
rises, beside running water, hesaid, you can. You can.
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You can be in the light andyou can move in the light. You
can become one with the light.And I said, were you talking about
meditation right? And it's like I'mthinking, like I have a big blanket
and we have a pond in theback, with a you know, arated
pond, and I'm thinking, howI can do this. He doesn't seem
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to recognize anything I'm saying, andhe just talks over me. He says,
you must learn to meditate in theearly light and the early morning light,
be side running water, and thiswill change your life forever, sir,
he said, believe me. Andhe never goes again. And I'm
thinking, oh my gosh, ohmy gosh. So I get I get
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out this blanket, this yellow blanket, somebody give me and I laid it
out next to the pond in theback of our grounds there and beside the
water end. It's incredible. It'sincredible to do this, to meditate an
early morning light. It profound experiencemeditating like that. And I'm thinking like,
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oh my gosh, who is thisguy? So I get to thinking,
like we have a We're on thethird floor, and on the first
floor is the bookstore called Quest Books. And I go down there. I
talk to the woman who's the manager, and he said, where are the
good books on meditation? She said, what do you mean, von the
good books on meditation? I said, I mean the ones written by the
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men in India, the masters,the really good stuff, not you know,
not the new gurus, the newstuff. Where are where are where
are the legitimate teachers? She said, Oh, down that row. So
I walked down that row and it'slike a dead end, you know,
It's like and I and there's afate a book face out and I picked
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it up and I flipped it overand I started reading the back and it
talked about this old man from Indiathat would lead people on a lightning rod
tour of India every year in theautumn months. And he would do this
every year for many, many years. It was a tradition. And they
said he was perhaps best known byas many students through the years as teaching
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a technique of meditating in the morninglight beside water, fascinating. And then
it said the year he was born, and it listed the year he had
died. It was two years beforehe called me. Talk about geting a
call from the other side. Soso I so so I actually, you
know, played with that a lot. And later on I moved to Minnesota,
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and and I had her roommate whohad had a scare with brain cancer.
But she she'd recovered, and shewas she'd been written up in books
with as an amazing recovery example.She said it was cousin's cat sat on
her, sat on her and purred, but she was she was given up
as dead. And then she shemade this spontaneous recovery, and you know,
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and she went on the radio andeverything for a while. And so
she came to live with me,and then she got very, very sick.
We held a meeting at her houseand tried to encourage her to go
to an intervention. I guess youcall it encouraged her to go in for
testing. And yes, yes ithad. It had come back, and
and and and the and the cancerhad spread throughout all her rain. The
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operator they couldn't get it, andshe had to go into hospice. So
I taught her when she was inhospice how to meditate in the early morning
light beside water. How do Ido that? There was a window that
came through the hospice and it itwould if I could move the bed a
little to the right and a littlebit forward, the light would shine on
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her from the window. And thenI had this little thing I put next
on the desk next to her bedthat created water, run running water.
And we did that and and andwe we we practiced this. We we
practice actually leaving our bodies together ina in a in a in a meditation
and and and going through different youknow levels, I mean different different subtle
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energy levels. And and it wasit was really incredible. I mean,
we we we so many of usthink our world is this physical world.
Beyond the physical plane, there areother planes of existence. There's the metal
plane, you know, the astralplane. There are many many planes of
existence. And we explored all ofthose and I took her up pretty far,
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up to a spiritual level, andthe color started getting very blue,
and everything changed. And I cameback and at that time she no longer
had the ability to speak, butshe would do these exercises with me.
And I said, dab, Isaid, I said, I think you
could go on your own. Now. I can't take you where you need
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to go next, but I thinkyou can do it yourself, don't you.
And she squeezed my hand really tight, and she looked me right square
in the eyes and said the firstword she'd said in weeks. She said
yes. Next morning she died,and when and I went home after she
died. There she was playing withher cat. Now I thought, huh,
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okay, so and she went upstairsand then there was music in the
room. Okay, hold on here, hold on here. She was dead.
Yeah, but she was at yourhouse and she walked upstairs to the
Okay, I'm just you. SheI remember. She was playing with her
cat. She claimed it had beenso helpful and reviving her the first time.
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And an old and old wizard.She's playing with him with a pink
ribbon. And I'd never seen thispink ribbon before. But after she finished
playing, she dropped the ribbon andcurled, curled, curled, as ribbons
will do, and fell in thiswicker basket. And I went and I
after she just she went up thestairs. I went to the basket and
found the pink ribbon. I said, I've never seen this pink ribbon before.
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Stan By Vaughn, We're going tohave to take a bit of a
cliffhanger. Hare ex o ation VonBrochlar's our guest. His Facebook page is
I just had it here a secondago. Facebook dot Com forward slash the
Brashlar, and we'll come back talkingabout more of this fascinating information. Consciousness
to the light as we continue hearingthe X Zone from our broadcast center and
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studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty.
That's good, just like a oldtime. I'm dreamy. Now. This
is Nick Pope here from Nick Popedot Net. I'd like to wish Rob
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McColl everyone at the X Zone Radioshow and all your listeners are very happy
Christmas, and I wish you everyhappiness in two thousand and eight. Oh,
it's a long road back, Iprom me you it's amazing how you
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can speak grand to my we havethat same word. You can light up
the dog trys on me, Ican or explain why I came when you
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don't say a thing. The sunlandsman On Braschlar's my special guest of this
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from our broadcast station and studios inSaint Catharines, Ontario, on your hometown
Classic twelve twenty and streamed around theworld on Classic twelve twenty dot. Yeah.
All right, that story that youtold us before we went to the
break, Vaughn was it was hardto believe. Yeah, it is a
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little hard to believe. Now I'mnot you know, i'd like to I'd
like to preface this by saying,it's not that I don't believe it.
Well, yeah, there are alot of people. There were a lot
of moving parts in this. Andthey she had a group of people we
tried very very hard to do hospiceat home and and and these were the
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people who actually were part of theintervention that got her into the hospital for
the testing. Now how how howit came back that at the age of
thirty three, she was going todie after going through an eight year recovery
and having had cancer for seven years. You know, it's like, I
can't figure this out, you know, and and and and but but the
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way she died was I honestly feltthat having learned to do this kind of
kind of uh meditation with her uhwhich was kind of directed by the man
who gave me these mysterious phone callsyears earlier, had a part in her
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ability to walk freely out of thatplace. And and I and I kept
telling the woman who was in chargeof the hospice was run by a Catholic
order, and and and and andand Sister Luke was the head nurse,
and they had none And I toldSister Luke, I said, Deb's going
to walk out of here. Shesaid, Vaughan. Nobody walks out of
here. Nobody, I said,Deb will And and I honestly think I
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honestly think she did. I thinkI think that that that she's a free
person. And my takeaway from thisis that everybody needs to learn uh conscious
living and conscious dying, because ifif your if, if your consciousness is
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really at a at a high levelin touch with universal consciousness. If you're
really highly conscious when you die,then you'll die a conscious death and it
won't be a sudden scary thing,you know, like we read in the
Tibetan Book of the Dead, ofthe horrors that people go through because they're
not ready to die. Well,that's how we get ghosts. I mean,
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I was a ghost hunter for awhile, and it's a terrible thing
to encounter people who are so scared, are so confused, are so holding
on to life when they die thatthey can't move forward, but to be
ready to actually get up and walkout, because, like I told it
again and again, the fact thatyou don't have the ability to stand on
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your feet and walk out of heredoes not mean that you can't walk out
of here. And I honestly think, I honestly think that she could because
when she dropped that pink ribbon inthe basket and went upstairs, and I
heard the music coming out of theroom, and I got to thinking,
You're like, should I go inthere and see her? So I went
in there and the room was empty. Because what I'd forgotten was that all
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of our things had been removed byher parents because they knew she was going
to die. There was no stereo, there was no bed, there was
nothing there. Yet I heard themusic, and the music stopped when I
turned the doorknob and walked inside.Now, I went out in the hallway
and there was a little closet whereshe, I don't know, she kept
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towels there. And I got tothinking, you know, like gosh,
did they get it all? Youknow? And I went on in the
hallway. They did get all thetowels and everything. But there was a
box of pink ribbons that she hadbeen working on before she went in the
hospice, had been working on tomake as Christmas presents for people. Oh,
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I had never seen that before.There was a secret thing, a
secret basket. Nobody knew that.And and and so I think it was
It was an eye opener for me, you know. And now I think
about life and I think about death, and I think that death is and
what people think it is. AndI think that the life isn't what people
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think it is. It's like we'renot we're not fully awake people, you
know, we're sleep walking through life, and when we die, we're confused.
Well, I think it. Youknow, if if if we do
if we do proper dream work,if we learn to meditate, if we
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tune our consciousness and become more awareof everything around us and including why we're
here and what we should be doingin our life, then I think I
think things are gonna things are goingto work out better for us. I
think, for one thing, we'regoing to die with the purpose, and
that purpose will be to continue ourevolution as as souls. Because I think
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that it's just a continual merry goround of people coming here, riding around
the merry ground and having a wonderfultime riding the wooden horse that's on that
carousel, and the music stops,and we call that the end the end.
There is no end. The musicstarts again, and you go to
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another horse and you continue going aroundthe carousel. So is this all?
Is this all part of reincarnation?Reincarnation? Absolutely, it's a never ending
cycle. It'll never ever end never. So if it never ends, one,
where did it start? I thinkit started with consciousness. Actually,
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I think there are two things thatbring life into into motion, and that
is consciousness and light. And Ithink you know, in the Hindu philosophy.
They call that shakti and shiva.And when consciousness and like come together.
There when when conscious when light reachesconsciousness, that is reality. That
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is our reality. And that's whywe're here, I mean, are we're
here to to to allow our consciousnessto experience this life in different manifestations,
in different scenarios, so that ithas some greater meaning to the universal flow,
the continuum of life, if youwill, that is universal consciousness.
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So am I to understand that eachand every person who comes to this plane,
at this plane is supposed to learnsomething, gather information that is fed
to the universe, the universe.That's what I think, Rob, I
mean just one guy's opinion. Butto me, this is a big it's
a big Easter egg hunt. Imean, it's like everybody is is is
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on a discovery mission in this lifeto find out things. It's all about
discovery. Discovery is everything. Andask me what we're supposed to discover.
I think it's different for every oneof us. But if all this information
is going back to the universe,why do we need to keep on reliving
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it or experiencing new scenarios When allthis information that has been already submitted back
to the universe by millions upon millionsupon millions of Yeah, well, but
see, there is no end.You know. That's like we tend to
think in terms that are linear beginning, a middle, and it's ongoing.
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It continues to unfold and evolve,it'll and it'll continue to evolve forever and
ever. You know, there's there'sno beginning, there's no end. But
it seems at times that we arehere as as puppets, as collectors for
unseen masters. So back to theAcashak records. I know that a lot
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of people want to think of theAkashak Records is the place where you can
go. I always think of likethe movie roller Ball, you know,
and Jonathan goes and he wants tolook in the hall of records and find
out what's going on, what's goingon? And you know, it's like
we'd all like to just go andhere's my library card, now tell me
(53:22):
what's going on. But you know, it's not that easy, you know,
because there are so many variables inhow things unfold. I mean,
it's true, you know, asEinstein suggested, that the past, present,
and future are all happening simultaneous simultaneously. It is highly likely that they're
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all progressing and that yesterday has notended and tomorrow is already hear, but
we're only experiencing this moment where we'restanding right now, and we only experience
what we see in front of us. That's our limitation, you know.
So so we have to actually liveout every every every scenario. There are
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so many variables, and there's somany ripples in in in everybody's life that
will that will impact other lives.So you can't say that everything is prescripted.
It's impossible to prescript anything. Sothey're only there are only energy tendencies.
You know. It's like, atthis moment in time, it looks
(54:30):
like it's going to happen this way. You know. I always think of
people that they they they are soslavishly uh dependent on following their numeral numerology
charts or their astrology charts, youknow. But but there are so many
things that will will affect these things, you know, And you can you
(54:52):
can do the tarot cards and thisshows you how things seem to be going
right now, but it could allchange tomorrow. It could change by what
you do and what your neighbor does. Yeah, but I've found that a
lot of the tarot card readings,the tea leave readings, the astrology,
the numerology is based on the onthe way that the reader is interpreting the
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information. You get two people withthe same spread of tarot cards or the
same numerological sequence, and you're goingto get different answers. Reader bias.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, readerbias. Well, that happens with everything,
any any kind of divination, likegazing. You and I could look
at the sky and do skygazing.We see different things. Sure perception,
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which is wrong? I don't know, Vron. We've got about a minute
before I have to say so longto you. What is your final final
words of wisdom to the listening audienceof the Explanation tonight on Classic twelve twenty.
Hey, gang, keep up thekeep up the journey. The journey
is everything. We're all We're allon a journey to Oz and it's it
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might seem like a dream at theend when you wake up and Annie m
shakes you and says, honey,it was only a dream. But we're
all going to get to OZ.You know, I think that every one
of us is on a journey andI think it's really important that we prepare
for the journey. You pack justa little bit more than the fool who
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goes off on the journey with thatknapsack and the tarot card, and and
and and and really and really embracethe journey. You know, don't be
afraid of the obstacles that are outthere, the supernatural allies and enemies,
and the gatekeepers that make your hero'sjourney difficult. Your journey is a journey
(56:51):
of of of of a hero.Vaughan, thank you so much for joining
us. I look forward to thenext time you meet us back here in
the X zone. Until then,take care of yourself and to you and
yours, the very best of theseason. Thank you, sir. Good
night, Vaughn. Explanation. Iguess this hour has been von Braschler on
Facebook dot com forward slash v Braschlar. He's got a number of books.
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Very interesting man. I call hima philosopher, philosopher of the unknown.
I'll be back tomorrow night at letme see eleven o'clock Eastern. As once
again we continue our quest into thesearching for answers demanding of truth in the
world of parapsychology and paranormal So untilthen, my friends, I am Rob
(57:34):
McConnell. Keep your eyes to thesky and your heart to the light,
and keep your radio's tuned to yourtown radio Classic twelve twenty
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