May 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Mason chats with Camille Contreras from NOVELISTS. They chat about Camille's history with the band, what it is like to replace two other lead vocalists, their new album, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hmm, Hey, we've got Neil from Novelists, super excited to
chat with you. Camil, You've kind of got an interesting
history both novelists and then your your kind of personal
history with novelists is really interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But you guys got a new album coming out soon.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm sure you're just like jam packed with lots of
things going on with novelists. But uh, before we dive
into all the novelists stuff, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Really good. I'm actually at my laboratory working and also
doing interviews and yeah, it's I'm doing It's very cool.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What Yeah, like, what do you what do you do there?
What's your what's your role?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I'm a chemist engineer and I create my own
cosmetics laboratory, and to be honest, I'm like trying to
finish all my contracts with my clients because I cannot
handle a double life. Like I feel like I'm, you know,
Hannah Montana having a double life, and you know, I
have to quit a life.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I can't imagine that there's too many chemistry engineers that
are in like the metal ste like that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I mean, maybe if you've encountered more than I have.
But I can't imagine there's too many.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I don't know another chemist engineer, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's awesome. That's super cool that you do that work
as well. Well. Let's talk about your music side of
your life.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, obviously there's clearly a chemistry side of your life,
but love to talk about your music side.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Of your life.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So yeah, before we dive into like how you got
involved with novelists and just kind of your history with them, Yeah,
like how did you get into music?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Like what what inspired you to get into music? So?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I I come from a Spanish family and music is
really important for us, especially like Flamenco music and with
guitars and and pursuit and like you know, drums and
stuff like that. So since I'm a little girl, I
I danced and I play with with my brothers, cousins, dad, mom,
(02:28):
and I played piano and violoncello. After that I learned
a music theory also, and I always sing like since
I remember, and but I wasn't in a in a
metal scene before. And I went to UH to a
hardcore punk show and that was like you know, the
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across and and then I decided to create a punk
hardcore and I started to listen to the like, you know,
heavy musics, and I discover after I don't know five
years of listening to punk hardcore, I discovered metal music.
And yeah, you know, I created like a punk hardcore
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band before and after that ten years after I joined novelists.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's amazing, Like what a career like already? Yeah? What
like what was it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
About punk and hardcore and metal music that just like
made you fall in love with it? Because obviously, like
that's way different music than like probably what you were
listening to when you're really young, So like, what was
it about punk and hardcore and metal that just was like,
this is what I want to be involved in.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I really I really loved the at first. I really
loved the ambience during the shows, like people going wild.
You cannot see that in the mainstream show or you know,
like pop music. You can see that now nowadays a
little bit more than before, but people are just you know,
watching and not moving at all, But in a PENK
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heartcore show, they are really giving their lives to the show.
And also I really liked the strategy movement. So I
started to get more interested in PENK hardcore and I
was doing a lot of you know, classical music and
classical shows and also pop shows. And I was always
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a little bit scared of going on stage because there
was too much pressure. And when I did my first
screaming show, like hardcore show, I was really stressed before.
And the first step I made on stage and the
first scream I did, all the stress was you know gone,
and uh, and I just enjoyed it and I was like, Okay,
now this is really what I want to do now.
(04:50):
And yeah, I think it's the energy, the vibe and
the freedom. Also a little bit cheesy to see that,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I love that. How did you learn how to scream?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Because, like you know, typically people just like don't learn
how to scream like naturally.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So how did you learn how to scream?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, I'm a self made screamer. I started in my
car in a highway, windows closed, and I tried to
just scream, you know little. I started to like imitate
the bands that I was listening to, and I tried
to scream and I and I was looking at no
one was looking at me because I didn't want to
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be weird or scary to people, and uh, and I
tried to find the scream that didn't hurt my voice
because I wanted to still be able to sing in
clean vocals. So yeah, basically I just learned by myself.
And now that I joined Novelist, I watched like, you know,
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YouTube tutorials and stuff too warm up the voice and
try to find difference and understand how the scream is working.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
At what point did you realize you're like, I'm good
at this, Like you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Know, when you first start out doing something right, like
you realize like, I've got a lot to learn and everything.
But at some point you must have learned, and maybe
it was pretty early on, but at some point you
must have gotten to a point where you're like, wait,
like I like, I could do this in front of
a lot of people and people would enjoy it. Like
you must have learned that at some point that you
were good enough for.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That right for the scream to be honest, I watched
I think the first show I did. It was in
a you know, reheusal local, like you know, the place
we were rehearsaling. And when I watched this video, I
feel so ashamed because it was really bad and I
was and I was confident that it was good, but
(06:42):
it was not so I think it's more like be
confident of what you do, even even if it's bad,
and people would think it's cool, and I think, I
don't know, it's just yeah, I improve a lot my
screaming level, even though when I joined novelists, my screams
we're not that good as they are now. So I
think everyone can improve more and more.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, I'm sure there's like so many things you can
do to just like practice and get better. And yeah,
I think a lot of people don't realize, like, along
with singing, right, like there's all sorts of singing coaches
and you learn how to sing well, the same thing
goes with screaming. There might be less of those people
that are like helping you kind of learn how to
scream well. But certainly there is like a practice to screaming. Well,
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you know, not everybody is just born with being able
to scream amazingly.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well I don't know if I scream amazingly, but but yeah,
I think, you know, sometimes when I'm in the in
the studio and I and I'm screaming like recording, and
I feel that this scream, this line that I just
did is really good because you know, you can feel.
It is like emotions. I think when you're screaming, you
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can feel. This is what I really like in the
hardcore and post hardcore, like bands like Have Heart or
Led Dispute. Also it's another another style. I really like
the you can feel the emotions really hard, because if
you're just singing clean's vocal, even even if you are
singing sad sad things, but you're singing it with vibes
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and stuff, you cannot feel the emotion. But when you're screaming,
you cannot lie Like it's really like you can feel
that the dude from Have Heart he's feeling paid. You
can feel it. So I think that's the most important
too to be a good screamer.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah well yeah, I mean without a doubt, like I
think for me, like my favorites both singers and screamers.
My favorites have always been the ones where you can
just see like or you can just hear the emotion
in their scream or they're singing. And even if they're
that most like the most technically sound singers or scream
even if they're not the most technically sound, I like
(09:03):
it as long as it's like you can feel that
emotion in their voice.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's all that matters to me.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, Like there's I mean there's people like like, did you,
I mean you mentioned law of dispute?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Did you ever get into me without you at all?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sorry I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So you you mentioned that you were really you're into
a law dispute. Did you ever listen to a band
another band called Me Without You?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Oh no, I don't know this band.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, they're very similar to law Dispute. Okay, Like it's
that and that's kind of same, like voice where it's
like half singing, half yelling, half kind of spoken word
like without me without you all one word, one word.
If you like law dispute, you'll love me without You.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, either way because it's a French word and you
staying within the shackson.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's like aggressively American, is how I say American? I
get that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well but it's like funny how like Yeah, like for
a band like a lot of Spuel or like Me
Without You, where their vocalist might not be the most
like technical in his vocal delivery, but again, it's just
all about the emotions of what he's singing about and
that's like what matters the most, and I think that's
what people gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And that's like why people really love that music.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Is you just hear the motion of it, even if
it's not super technical.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, and you know, I don't know the band mean
without you, but I know that dispute, that dispute. And
you think that he doesn't have a lot of technique,
but I think that he has a lot of technique
to be able to do that, because, to be honest,
when I started to learn screaming, I tried to imitate.
Also he's yelling like almost crying screams, and I was
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not able to do that. Like it's really hard to
do to do this kind of scream and to control
it and not hurt your voice. So yeah, I hope
one day I can be able to to speak with
him and ask him, how do you do? What's your technique?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, there's like some people where yeah, their ability to
just like control that scream. There's also another like I
don't know, if you ever listen to a band from
Sweden called Blindside, is.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That a there? That's another band to write down there?
They're from Sweden.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But their screamer has this, Like I don't know if
I've really ever heard like another screamer quite be able
to do this, but like in the same note, when
he like maybe first starts to note screaming, you then
can go into singing or vice versa. Wo like his
ability with his voice to do that, Like I think
honestly the only other person I've heard maybe be able
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to do that is Chester Bennington from Lincoln Park.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, that ability to bind.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Blind blindside is the name. It's all one where line side,
all one more. Okay, Yeah, they're from Sweden.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
They're great.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Okay, we'll listen to it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Also, yeah, they're they're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So yeah, well, okay, we've talked a lot about the
singing part. I'd love to hear just the story of
how you got involved with Novelists, because what's interesting about
novelists is they've already had two singers in the band,
and so you're the third singer in the band, and
so yeah, what was the whole what's the whole backstory
to how you got involved with the band.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
So the whole story is that you know Landmarks, of course,
So when I was eighteen, I was doing a summer
job in like a grocery store and a client asked
me to do an invoice and it was my first
day and I didn't know how to do so I just,
you know, asked the person behind me. I turn around
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and it was the drummer Kevin, and we started to
hang out with friends. And he was studying in a
sound and visual school and they needed someone that was
playing violincello to do like a photo exercise. So he
told me, I do want to come to my school
(13:09):
and I will we take picture of you. And I
was like, okay, let's do this. So I went to
the school and the dude it's a long story, and
the dude who was doing the clap for me, he
was playing in a hardcore band in Marseille, south of France,
this is where I came from. And he told me, yay,
do you want to come to a show and see?
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And that was the first show I went. The first
hardcore show. It was like in a basement in Marseille.
Maybe they were like twenty people at the show and
it was really cool. And after I started to hang
out with the scene. Like there was also Flow, the
singer of Landmarks and we all had bands, hardcore bands.
(13:52):
My name, My band was named Apache. His previous band
was Hating Front and we were like playing shows together.
And after ten years they started Landmarks. I did a duo,
a duet with Nico, the guitarist from Landmarks. We were
like The band was called Bliss Side and it was
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like only clean singing, like ballads in you know, pop
English ballads. And in twenty nineteen Novelists they were friends
with Landmarks already and they were looking for a girl
to do the harmonies of their album Celavi. So they
asked len Marks, hey, do you know a girl that
can sing the harmonies and they were like, yeah, we
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know Cami. So I went to Paris to record all
the harmonies of their album and at the end of
the session, they were like, hey, do you want to
do a feature on the on the song Selavi? And
I was like yeah, why not? And so I did
the feature. Then I went back to Marseille and so
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I did. Three years after the they just they were
in Marseille and they asked me, hey, do you want
to be the new singer of Novelist And I was
like what, I don't even knew that they will not
have a singer anymore. So I was like, yeah, of course, yeah,
why not. So we did some recording audition, you know,
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to see if it can work, see if our creativity
will match, and it was really cool. So we decided
to go to the new into the new chapter of novelists.
And here I am. That's a long story.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's like it's kind of amazing, how like it's one
of those things where it's just like the people you know,
and like that's how opportunities happen in life. It's not
about I mean obviously to some degree, right, Like you're
extremely talented and that plays a huge part of this,
but like some of these really cool opportunities that we
get in life are maybe a little less about like
your talent and just about like who you know in life.
(15:55):
And yeah, and this is like a classic story about
it seems.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Like do you do you call it also in English
a betterfly effect.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, like there is a small thing that happens twenty right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, like a small thing that like, yeah, totally changes
the like outcome of a bigger thing exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, I really feel it, you know when I when
I when I'm telling this story, I'm like, wow, if
this client didn't ask me for an invoice and I
didn't know how to do it and I asked Kevin
from Landmarks and then you know, like it's a it's
a lot of events that happened and to be here
now that's that's amazing and there is a lot of
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opportunities of course, right.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, what what has like that creativity process been like
for you guys? Like you know that obviously this isn't
the first time that they're exploring a new.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Sound and writing with a new vocalist, but yeah, what
like what what what.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Do you what do you like about the writing process
and the creativity process with For.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Me, it's like being in a laboratory, you know, like
we are experiencing a lot of different things, even though
sometimes it's a little bit weird, but we are open
to like putting a lot of ideas even though they
are not good, so we can we can find one
that it's really good. And we are really trying to
be different even though everyone is trying to be different,
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but we try to shop people. We try to do
something different that we did before, and if it sounds
or looks like something we already did before, we just
put it in the trash and we tried something new.
And since Pierre joined the band, he's also really creative
and he creates a lot of instrumental parts. And then
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I go to the studio and I'm trying and I'm
improvising in the in the studio to uh, to try
and find some lights like singing or screaming lights. And
sometimes it's really like, you know, my brains is gonna
be in fire, you know, And I'm just trying really
like different notes even though they are not linked to
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each other, to find a good melody. And or we
try ideas we put biloncello in one hour song Morning
the Don't. So Yeah, we try a lot of stuff,
and for this album, we are really proud of it,
but we are already thinking of the next one, and
we want to be more creative than we did on
this one.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
What has it been like for you to like be
involved in the creative process with songwriting, especially because I
would imagine like it can maybe feel a little overwhelming
to like be the brand new person in the band
and feel like you are then able to like have
any input, But like, have they been very open to
like you bringing your own ideas, Like have you felt
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like very much involved in the songwriting and creativity process
or is it something where you're kind of like still
maybe getting into that groove of like trying to add
your input or your ideas.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So at the they were always really open to my
opinions and they wanted me to to tell too, yeah,
to say on my opinions. And at the very beginning
when I joined the band, the first song we did
was turn it Up, and it was already written, so
I just went on the studio and we did we
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record the chorus, and I proposed a new line and
in fact, it's it's now the real line of the
chorus and the previous one is the harmony. We put
it in a harmony. So they were listening to my opinions,
but they were they were like, I was trying to
be you know, low key. I didn't want to impose
my opinions because I was just you know, the new member.
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And for this album, I feel that now I have
more power, you know, to propose because we started from
scratch to this album. So there was like it's a
new page. And so did you did you listen to
the album or not yet.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I've been able to listen to the whole thing, but
I've been able to listen to some of those songs
that have been released.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Okay, so there is a song called Marl It's a
song in Spanish, and this one when I propose it,
I know that the boys were not really like into it.
They were like, Okay, that's a little bit strange. And
I think like one or two days after, they're like, Okay,
we're going to do this because this is really cool.
It's really different from what we did before, and really
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want to go into this way. So I think I
felt at this moment that there was the switch where
I can be really free to propose whatever I want,
while before I was still a little bit shy to
propose my ideas.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I love that, like, and hopefully, you know, as like.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You continue to be in the band, you'll be able
to include more and more of those ideas. I mean,
you already mentioned like y'all are writing like a new
album already, so I would imagine like you're feeling more
and more comfortable with some of the new ideas and
input you have for even like whatever the next record
would be.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, totally. I feel that. I'm really excited for the
next one. This summer, We're gonna do a lot of festivals,
and there is like one festival weekend and the next
weekend there is another one, and we have a week
but the two festival are you really close? So we
decided to book a house near the festival so we
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can start to create new songs. So, yeah, the the
process of creation for the next album has already started.
Even though the album is not out yet, we were
still we still want to create a new song.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's going all out. It's like a full sprint right now.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I love that. I love that. What is it like
for you?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I've always I'm always curious about this with bands that
were like English isn't their first language? Maybe, or like
maybe they like at least it wasn't their first language,
growing not, What is it like for you to write
lyrics in English?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, like, what does that process look like? Is it?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Is it a lot of like looking up in the
dictionary or a thesaurus or something and and like making
sure like your grammars write. Like I'm just always curious,
like when if English isn't your first language, what is
it like to then write basically poetry. I mean that's
what lyrics are. What is it like then to write
poetry in English?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It feels like it's homeworks, you know, it's really it's
really hard. Luckily we have a Nico the basics. He's
fluent in English, so he's always checking that the grammar
is correct and that everything is understandable or pretty and poetic.
It was it was hard for me to write in
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English because you know, novelists, the touch of novelists is
to have a really how to say, like smart lyrics,
Like you cannot just write random lyrics or cheesy lyrics,
like they really want to go deeper in the in
the meaning and in the poetry. So it was hard
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for me. It was a hard exercise. So that's why
I cheated a little bit and I wrote some verses
in French and some and a song in Spanish because
because I speak friendly French and Spanish. And yeah, it
was hard work. But as as writing line vocal lines
and screaming lines, so it works.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Does it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Sometimes where you're when you're like writing those lyrics are
like you maybe originally writing them in Spanish or in
French and then maybe translating them.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I try not to do that because because it's it's
totally it's a totally different way of speaking English and French.
French and Spanish are closer than than English and French.
If I I, of course did that mistake to write
lyrics in French and then translate, it's so hard you
have to you have to change criuse you know, there
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is not only the meaning of the lyrics, but so
the shape of the words and their rhyme. So yeah,
it's and the rhythm. So it's it's it's different, and
I don't know, I don't know how I'm gonna do
for the next album, but uh yeah, I'm improving every
every time, I'm improving more than the time before. So
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I see, well, I love them.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think, like again, it's one of those things where
like as you're listening to these new songs, you're like,
it's not not The first thing would have come to
my mind is like that English isn't your first language,
Like it it's like very impressive, Like what you're like
your your lyrics in English are I mean, it's just
I was very very impressed, and so yeah, it was
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not obvious to me at all that like English wouldn't
be your first language or or even like a language
that you might not feel exactly the most like comfortable or.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Fluent in cool.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You're doing great. You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Another thing that I'm curious about again this this is
kind of what makes novelists I think unique in terms
of its history is like we mentioned before, like the
band started out with two different vocalists, you know, so
there I'm forgetting the names right now of the.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Former vocalist Charles.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, yeah, Charles Henry was like the first I think
vocalist or sorry not was the first vocalist. Yeah, So
like you have Mattio, who obviously is a man, and
then like Tobias it was a man. And like I've
definitely like interviewed lots of bands and have gotten to
know and love lots of bands that have like a
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vocalist change, but rarely is the vocalist change like a
change in gender. And so I'm really curious, like is
that something that you've thought through, like like if you
have like what has that like how does that feel?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm just really curious because yeah, like a lot of times,
like if you see a band changing its vocalist, they
try to like get a vocalist that might have like
the same exact kind of voice as their previous vocalist
or something, or maybe.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Has a similar, like kind of style as a previous vocalist.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But obviously to some degree, like that's just not going
to be exactly the case with with you know, just
like your voice and stuff versus like matios or some
of the other guys.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So I'm just curious, like, is that something that you've
thought through like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I just find that really interesting and I think that's
really cool, like a cool part of novelists.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, totally. So when I joined the band, I was
in a like, I think a pre on May twenty three,
and so I was not official in the band. And
during the whole summer where we were while we were
writing them Turn It Up, the first song, the boys
were like preparing me to the haters. They were like, Okay,
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you're gonna have a haters because we already did one
singer change and the previous one had haters. And you
know what, I totally agree with that, Like, when you
love a band, you love the singer and they're on switching.
I totally agree that you feel disappointed or sad or
or angry maybe, but in the end, you know, for me,
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it was like the best opportunity. So I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna say sorry, you know. And when when
we released it.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's like a cool way to see, like how the
band changes and grows, right, like when you add like
a new vocalist, right, like the novelists will be different
because you're in the band and you have a different
style than the previous singers. And I think that's like
a really cool opportunity for the band and for the listeners,
you know, the fans of the band.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, totally. And and of course when we released the
first song, there was a lot of haters, but I
was prepared, so I was like, okay, I don't take
it personally, It's like it's okay. And they were like
the boys told me, like I think a month ago
that I didn't have more haters than the previous singer,
Like it was the same amount, Like the fact that
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I'm a girl didn't add more haters. The only thing
is that the comments were different because they were more like, oh,
it's a female. We don't like females screaming in metal
stuff like that, you know, And of course the previous
singer didn't have that kind of comments, but he had
a lot of haters. And when we released the first
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song Coda of the new album, I think it was
almost no haters, you know, like maybe maybe one percent.
And I think it took four songs for people to
understand and a lot of shows because we toured the
world last year. We went to the US, to Australia, Asia, Europe,
and I think people went to two shows and they
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saw us live and they were happy with the fact
that I'm the new singer. They liked the energy, and
there was a lot of people that came at the
end of the show at the Merged stand while I
was there, and they were telling me, like, I'm so
happy that you there. There was some boys that told
me I was a septic when you joined the band,
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like I was not happy, but I went to see
you live and Okay, now I'm convinced, and I will
come back and I will listen to your new songs.
So it was it was not that hard for me,
you know, like there was a lot of haters, but
I just didn't take it personally.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I get that. Well.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think it's great like attitude to have with all
of that, like knowing that, yeah, there's gonna be dedicated
fans that are gonna be disappointed, like they you know,
they've grown accustomed to a certain sound or whatever, and
obviously your voice is gonna be a little different. But
I love the direction that you all are going, Like,
I just think like you're an amazing addition to the band,
and I just really I'm just like really impressed by
the direction you all are You're you're going, so yeah,
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I'm really stoked. So well, last couple questions here. Let's
let's go into your top five most influential albums. So
let's let's talk about some of those albums that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Have maybe shaped you as a musician or as a person.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, so for the screaming parts, I will say songs
to scream at the sound from.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Have Heart Such a good Wait.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I think I know every word, every drum, It's on
the whole album. Of course, I will say Misery Business
from Paramore, of.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Course, If Got You, If Got You? Yeah, her voice
still like just stands apart.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
She you don't really like I don't think I really
appreciated how great her voice is when, like, you know,
the band first started. But now I'm realizing how unbelievable
Harley's voices.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
She's so talented, and even even in live like she
she sings so well. I think she's the best performer
for me ever, so good.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
So that's a great pick. Great pick. That's two.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
The third one I think it's it's a really recent
one and it hits me for the creativity and the weirdness.
It's motto Mummy from Larusalia. She's a Spanish singer and
if you hear the if you listen to the album
the first listen, I was like, what's was that? Like,
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she's using sound of a motto in a song and
it's not even in rhythm, and it's really disturbing that
that's that's the word. It's disturbing. And it's been I
think thirty times that I listened to the album, and
now I'm like, yeah, that this is sounds like you're
used to it and and that's really cool. And I'm
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really I'm trying to to be as disturbing as she is.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I love that. That's cool. When when did that album
get released.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think it was three three years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Okay, so it's pretty new.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, it's pretty new, so pretty four. I would say
again Hard Times Power More. Also, I really a this. Yeah,
it's it's a good inspiration and was the fifth one.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
By the way, have you met Haley before?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Never?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You need to make that happen.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's that's one of my you know, bucket lists of
my life. Yes, yeah, exactly, and the last one I'm
really bad at. There so many albums it's too hard
to choose. Now. There is the hit me Hard and
Soft of Billie Eilish and this one is also. I
listen to it so many times. I think it's when
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I when I will have my Spotify wrap, is gonna
be on my top for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's awesome. That's cool. That's a great list.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I love the like just like, yeah, you get Billie
Eilish in there, a couple of paramoores and then even
have Heart, like you got to throw a have the
Heart in there, so that that's a that's a great list. Yeah,
I'm a big thing since you all well I know
you're not originally from from France, but you know the
rest of the band I think is mostly from France.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Are you, like, are you guys familiar at all with
Birds in Row?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I don't know them. Well, I know the band, of course,
but I don't know them personally. But I'm from friends,
you know, I'm half but I'm totally French. I was
born in France.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Oh you are okay? Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, I like Birds and Rows like one of my
favorite bands. They very rarely tour in the US. They're
almost always touring in Europe. But I know, but I
know they're from from France. I don't know if they're from.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Paris or not.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But but yeah, I think Birds in Rows like seriously,
they're like probably a top ten favorite band of all
time for me.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Incredible. Yeah, they're they're great.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, they're like yeah, since you're like kind of a
have part fan, they've got like, you know, those hardcore vibes,
but they've kind of got this cool, like indie sound.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
They're unbelievable. That's awesome. Cool.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, uh, Camille, what do you what do you want
to plug? Obviously, the new album I think is coming
out in like twenty days now.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I don't know exactly, but yeah, this sixteen of May.
I don't know how many days.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, so yeah, it's coming up at least from the
time of the recording. It's coming out in like twenty days. Yeah,
So what what do you want to plug?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
So the plug the thing we said before, right, because
I'm not sure I didn't.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Do like a real one first. So yeah, like the
album or like if you shows or whatever, like a
real one first.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
We're gonna We're gonna tour again the US, the Europe,
and Asia started from September to promote the album and
too to Yeah, to show the world this album. And
I hope that you guys be there to to watch
it and to.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Listen to I can't Wait, can't wait, love it. Well,
I'm excited for anything else you'd like to plug.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
As you know, I'm a chemist engineer and I'm doing
a cosmetics projects and I create a seerrup that can
make everyone's cream really well. So I'm gonna sell uh
these syrups really soon on my Instagram account. So stay tuned,
and I and I really hope you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Buy some what what are you gonna call it?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You haven't you haven't come up with the name yet.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
No, not yet. Oh, but there is there is another thing.
I'm gonna do a lip and lipstick, you know, and
we're gonna call it nove Lips. That's the joke. Remate.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yah, that's gonna like that's you're selling that on the tour,
right like that that has to be sold soon.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna try it. We're gonna try
to make it.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I mean, I've I don't know if I've ever worn lipstick,
but I would wear novel Lips lipstick without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I I'm all about that. I love that. I love that.
That's a that's a you know.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I wish more bands were more creative with like their
names and then like the merch that they create, Like
we just need more of that kind of fun creativity.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I love it. I love it well, Kimil.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Thank you so much for chatting more about the new
album and just Novelists and your history with the band.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Again.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I'm super stoked with this new album. This is just
gonna be really like, this might be an album that
I've got in my top albums at the end of
the year. I'm just really excited, thank you, thanks so
much for chatting more about it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Thank you so much. And I really hope you like
it and and yeah, that's it. We put our hearts
in this album, so I hope guys you like it.
Hmm, Hey, we've got Neil from Novelists, super excited to
chat with you. Camil, You've kind of got an interesting
history both novelists and then your your kind of personal
history with novelists is really interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But you guys got a new album coming out soon.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm sure you're just like jam packed with lots of
things going on with novelists. But uh, before we dive
into all the novelists stuff, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Really good. I'm actually at my laboratory working and also
doing interviews and yeah, it's I'm doing It's very cool.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What Yeah, like, what do you what do you do there?
What's your what's your role?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I'm a chemist engineer and I create my own
cosmetics laboratory, and to be honest, I'm like trying to
finish all my contracts with my clients because I cannot
handle a double life. Like I feel like I'm, you know,
Hannah Montana having a double life, and you know, I
have to quit a life.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I can't imagine that there's too many chemistry engineers that
are in like the metal ste like that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I mean, maybe if you've encountered more than I have.
But I can't imagine there's too many.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I don't know another chemist engineer, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's awesome. That's super cool that you do that work
as well. Well. Let's talk about your music side of
your life.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, obviously there's clearly a chemistry side of your life,
but love to talk about your music side.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Of your life.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So yeah, before we dive into like how you got
involved with novelists and just kind of your history with them, Yeah,
like how did you get into music?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Like what what inspired you to get into music? So?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I I come from a Spanish family and music is
really important for us, especially like Flamenco music and with
guitars and and pursuit and like you know, drums and
stuff like that. So since I'm a little girl, I
I danced and I play with with my brothers, cousins, dad, mom,
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and I played piano and violoncello. After that I learned
a music theory also, and I always sing like since
I remember, and but I wasn't in a in a
metal scene before. And I went to UH to a
hardcore punk show and that was like you know, the
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across and and then I decided to create a punk
hardcore and I started to listen to the like, you know,
heavy musics, and I discover after I don't know five
years of listening to punk hardcore, I discovered metal music.
And yeah, you know, I created like a punk hardcore
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band before and after that ten years after I joined novelists.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's amazing, Like what a career like already? Yeah? What
like what was it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
About punk and hardcore and metal music that just like
made you fall in love with it? Because obviously, like
that's way different music than like probably what you were
listening to when you're really young, So like, what was
it about punk and hardcore and metal that just was like,
this is what I want to be involved in.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I really I really loved the at first. I really
loved the ambience during the shows, like people going wild.
You cannot see that in the mainstream show or you know,
like pop music. You can see that now nowadays a
little bit more than before, but people are just you know,
watching and not moving at all, But in a PENK
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heartcore show, they are really giving their lives to the show.
And also I really liked the strategy movement. So I
started to get more interested in PENK hardcore and I
was doing a lot of you know, classical music and
classical shows and also pop shows. And I was always
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a little bit scared of going on stage because there
was too much pressure. And when I did my first
screaming show, like hardcore show, I was really stressed before.
And the first step I made on stage and the
first scream I did, all the stress was you know gone,
and uh, and I just enjoyed it and I was like, Okay,
now this is really what I want to do now.
(04:50):
And yeah, I think it's the energy, the vibe and
the freedom. Also a little bit cheesy to see that,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I love that. How did you learn how to scream?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Because, like you know, typically people just like don't learn
how to scream like naturally.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So how did you learn how to scream?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, I'm a self made screamer. I started in my
car in a highway, windows closed, and I tried to
just scream, you know little. I started to like imitate
the bands that I was listening to, and I tried
to scream and I and I was looking at no
one was looking at me because I didn't want to
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be weird or scary to people, and uh, and I
tried to find the scream that didn't hurt my voice
because I wanted to still be able to sing in
clean vocals. So yeah, basically I just learned by myself.
And now that I joined Novelist, I watched like, you know,
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YouTube tutorials and stuff too warm up the voice and
try to find difference and understand how the scream is working.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
At what point did you realize you're like, I'm good
at this, Like you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Know, when you first start out doing something right, like
you realize like, I've got a lot to learn and everything.
But at some point you must have learned, and maybe
it was pretty early on, but at some point you
must have gotten to a point where you're like, wait,
like I like, I could do this in front of
a lot of people and people would enjoy it. Like
you must have learned that at some point that you
were good enough for.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That right for the scream to be honest, I watched
I think the first show I did. It was in
a you know, reheusal local, like you know, the place
we were rehearsaling. And when I watched this video, I
feel so ashamed because it was really bad and I
was and I was confident that it was good, but
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it was not so I think it's more like be
confident of what you do, even even if it's bad,
and people would think it's cool, and I think, I
don't know, it's just yeah, I improve a lot my
screaming level, even though when I joined novelists, my screams
we're not that good as they are now. So I
think everyone can improve more and more.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, I'm sure there's like so many things you can
do to just like practice and get better. And yeah,
I think a lot of people don't realize, like, along
with singing, right, like there's all sorts of singing coaches
and you learn how to sing well, the same thing
goes with screaming. There might be less of those people
that are like helping you kind of learn how to
scream well. But certainly there is like a practice to screaming. Well,
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you know, not everybody is just born with being able
to scream amazingly.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well I don't know if I scream amazingly, but but yeah,
I think, you know, sometimes when I'm in the in
the studio and I and I'm screaming like recording, and
I feel that this scream, this line that I just
did is really good because you know, you can feel.
It is like emotions. I think when you're screaming, you
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can feel. This is what I really like in the
hardcore and post hardcore, like bands like Have Heart or
Led Dispute. Also it's another another style. I really like
the you can feel the emotions really hard, because if
you're just singing clean's vocal, even even if you are
singing sad sad things, but you're singing it with vibes
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and stuff, you cannot feel the emotion. But when you're screaming,
you cannot lie Like it's really like you can feel
that the dude from Have Heart he's feeling paid. You
can feel it. So I think that's the most important
too to be a good screamer.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah well yeah, I mean without a doubt, like I
think for me, like my favorites both singers and screamers.
My favorites have always been the ones where you can
just see like or you can just hear the emotion
in their scream or they're singing. And even if they're
that most like the most technically sound singers or scream
even if they're not the most technically sound, I like
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it as long as it's like you can feel that
emotion in their voice.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's all that matters to me.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, Like there's I mean there's people like like, did you,
I mean you mentioned law of dispute?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Did you ever get into me without you at all?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sorry I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So you you mentioned that you were really you're into
a law dispute. Did you ever listen to a band
another band called Me Without You?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Oh no, I don't know this band.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, they're very similar to law Dispute. Okay, Like it's
that and that's kind of same, like voice where it's
like half singing, half yelling, half kind of spoken word
like without me without you all one word, one word.
If you like law dispute, you'll love me without You.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, either way because it's a French word and you
staying within the shackson.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's like aggressively American, is how I say American? I
get that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well but it's like funny how like Yeah, like for
a band like a lot of Spuel or like Me
Without You, where their vocalist might not be the most
like technical in his vocal delivery, but again, it's just
all about the emotions of what he's singing about and
that's like what matters the most, and I think that's
what people gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And that's like why people really love that music.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Is you just hear the motion of it, even if
it's not super technical.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, and you know, I don't know the band mean
without you, but I know that dispute, that dispute. And
you think that he doesn't have a lot of technique,
but I think that he has a lot of technique
to be able to do that, because, to be honest,
when I started to learn screaming, I tried to imitate.
Also he's yelling like almost crying screams, and I was
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not able to do that. Like it's really hard to
do to do this kind of scream and to control
it and not hurt your voice. So yeah, I hope
one day I can be able to to speak with
him and ask him, how do you do? What's your technique?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, there's like some people where yeah, their ability to
just like control that scream. There's also another like I
don't know, if you ever listen to a band from
Sweden called Blindside, is.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That a there? That's another band to write down there?
They're from Sweden.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But their screamer has this, Like I don't know if
I've really ever heard like another screamer quite be able
to do this, but like in the same note, when
he like maybe first starts to note screaming, you then
can go into singing or vice versa. Wo like his
ability with his voice to do that, Like I think
honestly the only other person I've heard maybe be able
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to do that is Chester Bennington from Lincoln Park.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, that ability to bind.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Blind blindside is the name. It's all one where line side,
all one more. Okay, Yeah, they're from Sweden.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
They're great.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Okay, we'll listen to it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Also, yeah, they're they're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So yeah, well, okay, we've talked a lot about the
singing part. I'd love to hear just the story of
how you got involved with Novelists, because what's interesting about
novelists is they've already had two singers in the band,
and so you're the third singer in the band, and
so yeah, what was the whole what's the whole backstory
to how you got involved with the band.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
So the whole story is that you know Landmarks, of course,
So when I was eighteen, I was doing a summer
job in like a grocery store and a client asked
me to do an invoice and it was my first
day and I didn't know how to do so I just,
you know, asked the person behind me. I turn around
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and it was the drummer Kevin, and we started to
hang out with friends. And he was studying in a
sound and visual school and they needed someone that was
playing violincello to do like a photo exercise. So he
told me, I do want to come to my school
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and I will we take picture of you. And I
was like, okay, let's do this. So I went to
the school and the dude it's a long story, and
the dude who was doing the clap for me, he
was playing in a hardcore band in Marseille, south of France,
this is where I came from. And he told me, yay,
do you want to come to a show and see?
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And that was the first show I went. The first
hardcore show. It was like in a basement in Marseille.
Maybe they were like twenty people at the show and
it was really cool. And after I started to hang
out with the scene. Like there was also Flow, the
singer of Landmarks and we all had bands, hardcore bands.
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My name, My band was named Apache. His previous band
was Hating Front and we were like playing shows together.
And after ten years they started Landmarks. I did a duo,
a duet with Nico, the guitarist from Landmarks. We were
like The band was called Bliss Side and it was
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like only clean singing, like ballads in you know, pop
English ballads. And in twenty nineteen Novelists they were friends
with Landmarks already and they were looking for a girl
to do the harmonies of their album Celavi. So they
asked len Marks, hey, do you know a girl that
can sing the harmonies and they were like, yeah, we
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know Cami. So I went to Paris to record all
the harmonies of their album and at the end of
the session, they were like, hey, do you want to
do a feature on the on the song Selavi? And
I was like yeah, why not? And so I did
the feature. Then I went back to Marseille and so
(14:56):
I did. Three years after the they just they were
in Marseille and they asked me, hey, do you want
to be the new singer of Novelist And I was
like what, I don't even knew that they will not
have a singer anymore. So I was like, yeah, of course, yeah,
why not. So we did some recording audition, you know,
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to see if it can work, see if our creativity
will match, and it was really cool. So we decided
to go to the new into the new chapter of novelists.
And here I am. That's a long story.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's like it's kind of amazing, how like it's one
of those things where it's just like the people you know,
and like that's how opportunities happen in life. It's not
about I mean obviously to some degree, right, Like you're
extremely talented and that plays a huge part of this,
but like some of these really cool opportunities that we
get in life are maybe a little less about like
your talent and just about like who you know in life.
(15:55):
And yeah, and this is like a classic story about
it seems.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Like do you do you call it also in English
a betterfly effect.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, like there is a small thing that happens twenty right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, like a small thing that like, yeah, totally changes
the like outcome of a bigger thing exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, I really feel it, you know when I when
I when I'm telling this story, I'm like, wow, if
this client didn't ask me for an invoice and I
didn't know how to do it and I asked Kevin
from Landmarks and then you know, like it's a it's
a lot of events that happened and to be here
now that's that's amazing and there is a lot of
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opportunities of course, right.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, what what has like that creativity process been like
for you guys? Like you know that obviously this isn't
the first time that they're exploring a new.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Sound and writing with a new vocalist, but yeah, what
like what what what.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Do you what do you like about the writing process
and the creativity process with For.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Me, it's like being in a laboratory, you know, like
we are experiencing a lot of different things, even though
sometimes it's a little bit weird, but we are open
to like putting a lot of ideas even though they
are not good, so we can we can find one
that it's really good. And we are really trying to
be different even though everyone is trying to be different,
(17:22):
but we try to shop people. We try to do
something different that we did before, and if it sounds
or looks like something we already did before, we just
put it in the trash and we tried something new.
And since Pierre joined the band, he's also really creative
and he creates a lot of instrumental parts. And then
(17:44):
I go to the studio and I'm trying and I'm
improvising in the in the studio to uh, to try
and find some lights like singing or screaming lights. And
sometimes it's really like, you know, my brains is gonna
be in fire, you know, And I'm just trying really
like different notes even though they are not linked to
(18:06):
each other, to find a good melody. And or we
try ideas we put biloncello in one hour song Morning
the Don't. So Yeah, we try a lot of stuff,
and for this album, we are really proud of it,
but we are already thinking of the next one, and
we want to be more creative than we did on
this one.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
What has it been like for you to like be
involved in the creative process with songwriting, especially because I
would imagine like it can maybe feel a little overwhelming
to like be the brand new person in the band
and feel like you are then able to like have
any input, But like, have they been very open to
like you bringing your own ideas, Like have you felt
(18:49):
like very much involved in the songwriting and creativity process
or is it something where you're kind of like still
maybe getting into that groove of like trying to add
your input or your ideas.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So at the they were always really open to my
opinions and they wanted me to to tell too, yeah,
to say on my opinions. And at the very beginning
when I joined the band, the first song we did
was turn it Up, and it was already written, so
I just went on the studio and we did we
(19:22):
record the chorus, and I proposed a new line and
in fact, it's it's now the real line of the
chorus and the previous one is the harmony. We put
it in a harmony. So they were listening to my opinions,
but they were they were like, I was trying to
be you know, low key. I didn't want to impose
my opinions because I was just you know, the new member.
(19:44):
And for this album, I feel that now I have
more power, you know, to propose because we started from
scratch to this album. So there was like it's a
new page. And so did you did you listen to
the album or not yet.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I've been able to listen to the whole thing, but
I've been able to listen to some of those songs
that have been released.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Okay, so there is a song called Marl It's a
song in Spanish, and this one when I propose it,
I know that the boys were not really like into it.
They were like, Okay, that's a little bit strange. And
I think like one or two days after, they're like, Okay,
we're going to do this because this is really cool.
It's really different from what we did before, and really
(20:28):
want to go into this way. So I think I
felt at this moment that there was the switch where
I can be really free to propose whatever I want,
while before I was still a little bit shy to
propose my ideas.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I love that, like, and hopefully, you know, as like.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You continue to be in the band, you'll be able
to include more and more of those ideas. I mean,
you already mentioned like y'all are writing like a new
album already, so I would imagine like you're feeling more
and more comfortable with some of the new ideas and
input you have for even like whatever the next record
would be.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, totally. I feel that. I'm really excited for the
next one. This summer, We're gonna do a lot of festivals,
and there is like one festival weekend and the next
weekend there is another one, and we have a week
but the two festival are you really close? So we
decided to book a house near the festival so we
(21:25):
can start to create new songs. So, yeah, the the
process of creation for the next album has already started.
Even though the album is not out yet, we were
still we still want to create a new song.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's going all out. It's like a full sprint right now.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I love that. I love that. What is it like
for you?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I've always I'm always curious about this with bands that
were like English isn't their first language? Maybe, or like
maybe they like at least it wasn't their first language,
growing not, What is it like for you to write
lyrics in English?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, like, what does that process look like? Is it?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Is it a lot of like looking up in the
dictionary or a thesaurus or something and and like making
sure like your grammars write. Like I'm just always curious,
like when if English isn't your first language, what is
it like to then write basically poetry. I mean that's
what lyrics are. What is it like then to write
poetry in English?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It feels like it's homeworks, you know, it's really it's
really hard. Luckily we have a Nico the basics. He's
fluent in English, so he's always checking that the grammar
is correct and that everything is understandable or pretty and poetic.
It was it was hard for me to write in
(22:46):
English because you know, novelists, the touch of novelists is
to have a really how to say, like smart lyrics,
Like you cannot just write random lyrics or cheesy lyrics,
like they really want to go deeper in the in
the meaning and in the poetry. So it was hard
(23:07):
for me. It was a hard exercise. So that's why
I cheated a little bit and I wrote some verses
in French and some and a song in Spanish because
because I speak friendly French and Spanish. And yeah, it
was hard work. But as as writing line vocal lines
and screaming lines, so it works.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Does it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Sometimes where you're when you're like writing those lyrics are
like you maybe originally writing them in Spanish or in
French and then maybe translating them.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I try not to do that because because it's it's
totally it's a totally different way of speaking English and French.
French and Spanish are closer than than English and French.
If I I, of course did that mistake to write
lyrics in French and then translate, it's so hard you
have to you have to change criuse you know, there
(23:58):
is not only the meaning of the lyrics, but so
the shape of the words and their rhyme. So yeah,
it's and the rhythm. So it's it's it's different, and
I don't know, I don't know how I'm gonna do
for the next album, but uh yeah, I'm improving every
every time, I'm improving more than the time before. So
(24:20):
I see, well, I love them.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think, like again, it's one of those things where
like as you're listening to these new songs, you're like,
it's not not The first thing would have come to
my mind is like that English isn't your first language,
Like it it's like very impressive, Like what you're like
your your lyrics in English are I mean, it's just
I was very very impressed, and so yeah, it was
(24:43):
not obvious to me at all that like English wouldn't
be your first language or or even like a language
that you might not feel exactly the most like comfortable or.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Fluent in cool.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You're doing great. You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Another thing that I'm curious about again this this is
kind of what makes novelists I think unique in terms
of its history is like we mentioned before, like the
band started out with two different vocalists, you know, so
there I'm forgetting the names right now of the.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Former vocalist Charles.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, yeah, Charles Henry was like the first I think
vocalist or sorry not was the first vocalist. Yeah, So
like you have Mattio, who obviously is a man, and
then like Tobias it was a man. And like I've
definitely like interviewed lots of bands and have gotten to
know and love lots of bands that have like a
(25:35):
vocalist change, but rarely is the vocalist change like a
change in gender. And so I'm really curious, like is
that something that you've thought through, like like if you
have like what has that like how does that feel?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm just really curious because yeah, like a lot of times,
like if you see a band changing its vocalist, they
try to like get a vocalist that might have like
the same exact kind of voice as their previous vocalist
or something, or maybe.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Has a similar, like kind of style as a previous vocalist.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But obviously to some degree, like that's just not going
to be exactly the case with with you know, just
like your voice and stuff versus like matios or some
of the other guys.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So I'm just curious, like, is that something that you've
thought through like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I just find that really interesting and I think that's
really cool, like a cool part of novelists.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, totally. So when I joined the band, I was
in a like, I think a pre on May twenty three,
and so I was not official in the band. And
during the whole summer where we were while we were
writing them Turn It Up, the first song, the boys
were like preparing me to the haters. They were like, Okay,
(26:40):
you're gonna have a haters because we already did one
singer change and the previous one had haters. And you
know what, I totally agree with that, Like, when you
love a band, you love the singer and they're on switching.
I totally agree that you feel disappointed or sad or
or angry maybe, but in the end, you know, for me,
(27:03):
it was like the best opportunity. So I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna say sorry, you know. And when when
we released it.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's like a cool way to see, like how the
band changes and grows, right, like when you add like
a new vocalist, right, like the novelists will be different
because you're in the band and you have a different
style than the previous singers. And I think that's like
a really cool opportunity for the band and for the listeners,
you know, the fans of the band.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, totally. And and of course when we released the
first song, there was a lot of haters, but I
was prepared, so I was like, okay, I don't take
it personally, It's like it's okay. And they were like
the boys told me, like I think a month ago
that I didn't have more haters than the previous singer,
Like it was the same amount, Like the fact that
(27:47):
I'm a girl didn't add more haters. The only thing
is that the comments were different because they were more like, oh,
it's a female. We don't like females screaming in metal
stuff like that, you know, And of course the previous
singer didn't have that kind of comments, but he had
a lot of haters. And when we released the first
(28:07):
song Coda of the new album, I think it was
almost no haters, you know, like maybe maybe one percent.
And I think it took four songs for people to
understand and a lot of shows because we toured the
world last year. We went to the US, to Australia, Asia, Europe,
and I think people went to two shows and they
(28:30):
saw us live and they were happy with the fact
that I'm the new singer. They liked the energy, and
there was a lot of people that came at the
end of the show at the Merged stand while I
was there, and they were telling me, like, I'm so
happy that you there. There was some boys that told
me I was a septic when you joined the band,
(28:51):
like I was not happy, but I went to see
you live and Okay, now I'm convinced, and I will
come back and I will listen to your new songs.
So it was it was not that hard for me,
you know, like there was a lot of haters, but
I just didn't take it personally.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I get that. Well.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think it's great like attitude to have with all
of that, like knowing that, yeah, there's gonna be dedicated
fans that are gonna be disappointed, like they you know,
they've grown accustomed to a certain sound or whatever, and
obviously your voice is gonna be a little different. But
I love the direction that you all are going, Like,
I just think like you're an amazing addition to the band,
and I just really I'm just like really impressed by
the direction you all are You're you're going, so yeah,
(29:34):
I'm really stoked. So well, last couple questions here. Let's
let's go into your top five most influential albums. So
let's let's talk about some of those albums that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Have maybe shaped you as a musician or as a person.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, so for the screaming parts, I will say songs
to scream at the sound from.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Have Heart Such a good Wait.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I think I know every word, every drum, It's on
the whole album. Of course, I will say Misery Business
from Paramore, of.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Course, If Got You, If Got You? Yeah, her voice
still like just stands apart.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
She you don't really like I don't think I really
appreciated how great her voice is when, like, you know,
the band first started. But now I'm realizing how unbelievable
Harley's voices.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
She's so talented, and even even in live like she
she sings so well. I think she's the best performer
for me ever, so good.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
So that's a great pick. Great pick. That's two.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
The third one I think it's it's a really recent
one and it hits me for the creativity and the weirdness.
It's motto Mummy from Larusalia. She's a Spanish singer and
if you hear the if you listen to the album
the first listen, I was like, what's was that? Like,
(30:54):
she's using sound of a motto in a song and
it's not even in rhythm, and it's really disturbing that
that's that's the word. It's disturbing. And it's been I
think thirty times that I listened to the album, and
now I'm like, yeah, that this is sounds like you're
used to it and and that's really cool. And I'm
(31:15):
really I'm trying to to be as disturbing as she is.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I love that. That's cool. When when did that album
get released.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think it was three three years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Okay, so it's pretty new.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, it's pretty new, so pretty four. I would say
again Hard Times Power More. Also, I really a this. Yeah,
it's it's a good inspiration and was the fifth one.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
By the way, have you met Haley before?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Never?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You need to make that happen.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's that's one of my you know, bucket lists of
my life. Yes, yeah, exactly, and the last one I'm
really bad at. There so many albums it's too hard
to choose. Now. There is the hit me Hard and
Soft of Billie Eilish and this one is also. I
listen to it so many times. I think it's when
(32:14):
I when I will have my Spotify wrap, is gonna
be on my top for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's awesome. That's cool. That's a great list.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I love the like just like, yeah, you get Billie
Eilish in there, a couple of paramoores and then even
have Heart, like you got to throw a have the
Heart in there, so that that's a that's a great list. Yeah,
I'm a big thing since you all well I know
you're not originally from from France, but you know the
rest of the band I think is mostly from France.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Are you, like, are you guys familiar at all with
Birds in Row?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I don't know them. Well, I know the band, of course,
but I don't know them personally. But I'm from friends,
you know, I'm half but I'm totally French. I was
born in France.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Oh you are okay? Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, I like Birds and Rows like one of my
favorite bands. They very rarely tour in the US. They're
almost always touring in Europe. But I know, but I
know they're from from France. I don't know if they're from.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Paris or not.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But but yeah, I think Birds in Rows like seriously,
they're like probably a top ten favorite band of all
time for me.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Incredible. Yeah, they're they're great.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, they're like yeah, since you're like kind of a
have part fan, they've got like, you know, those hardcore vibes,
but they've kind of got this cool, like indie sound.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
They're unbelievable. That's awesome. Cool.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, uh, Camille, what do you what do you want
to plug? Obviously, the new album I think is coming
out in like twenty days now.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I don't know exactly, but yeah, this sixteen of May.
I don't know how many days.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, so yeah, it's coming up at least from the
time of the recording. It's coming out in like twenty days. Yeah,
So what what do you want to plug?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
So the plug the thing we said before, right, because
I'm not sure I didn't.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Do like a real one first. So yeah, like the
album or like if you shows or whatever, like a
real one first.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
We're gonna We're gonna tour again the US, the Europe,
and Asia started from September to promote the album and
too to Yeah, to show the world this album. And
I hope that you guys be there to to watch
it and to.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Listen to I can't Wait, can't wait, love it. Well,
I'm excited for anything else you'd like to plug.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
As you know, I'm a chemist engineer and I'm doing
a cosmetics projects and I create a seerrup that can
make everyone's cream really well. So I'm gonna sell uh
these syrups really soon on my Instagram account. So stay tuned,
and I and I really hope you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Buy some what what are you gonna call it?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You haven't you haven't come up with the name yet.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
No, not yet. Oh, but there is there is another thing.
I'm gonna do a lip and lipstick, you know, and
we're gonna call it nove Lips. That's the joke. Remate.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yah, that's gonna like that's you're selling that on the tour,
right like that that has to be sold soon.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna try it. We're gonna try
to make it.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I mean, I've I don't know if I've ever worn lipstick,
but I would wear novel Lips lipstick without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I I'm all about that. I love that. I love that.
That's a that's a you know.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I wish more bands were more creative with like their
names and then like the merch that they create, Like
we just need more of that kind of fun creativity.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I love it. I love it well, Kimil.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Thank you so much for chatting more about the new
album and just Novelists and your history with the band.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Again.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I'm super stoked with this new album. This is just
gonna be really like, this might be an album that
I've got in my top albums at the end of
the year. I'm just really excited, thank you, thanks so
much for chatting more about it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Thank you so much. And I really hope you like
it and and yeah, that's it. We put our hearts
in this album, so I hope guys you like it.
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