Trump says he will sign bill to release Epstein files if Congress passes it

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I feel like it's about to get spicy potentially in
the world of politics when it comes to the Epstein stuff,
and it's also going to get frustrating, and don't expect
it to be simple and easy. But I want to
remind everybody, as I did last week, it's about the victims. Okay,

(00:35):
It's about justice for people who were abused by a
system that allowed dirty, horrible rich men, powerful individuals to
do whatever they see fit because they could buy their
way and or influence their.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Way out of situations. That's not right.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's not what in theory this administration said that they
were going to be about.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
What were they going to be about?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Transparency, holding the deep state accountable, all of those things
I said last night on a video And if you
haven't seen the video, go see it really helps us
out that the.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Reason this is.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
To me so important besides the it's not the politics, right,
The politics is secondary. It's the humanity side, for the
people out there who don't have a voice.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I've gotten more people who've texted me or have challenged me,
going where are all these women? Why aren't they talking
about all this kind of stuff. Why aren't theyre out
there doing it? I said, really, is that where it's
a victim blame?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Is that is?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Is that what is going to happen?

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're going to come after these these women who've been
through god knows what, because why you've made it personal,
and you shouldn't make it personal.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
You shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
And as I have said this over and over again,
and I'll say it again right now, Republicans, you cannot
tell me you are worried about whether or not boys
play in girls' sports because we need to protect the girls.
And then when something like this comes out and you're
worried about your side being exposed for something. There is

(02:28):
no sides in this. It's just right or wrong, evil
and good period.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Under intense pressure from his own party, President Trump suddenly
reversing course, telling House Republicans to vote yes on a
measure to release the FBI's files on sex offender Jeffrey
Epstein and saying if the Epstein bill passes the House
and Senate, he will sign it.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
Sure, I would let the send up look at it,
let anybody look at it.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
For months, Trump fought to prevent this, even though he
promised during the camp to release the files.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
And this is an issue of their own making, no doubt.
And I said, look, when this first came out, when
all this Epstein stuff first started to happen, I didn't
pay much attention to it. I didn't because I didn't
realize the scale of it. And it was more about
going after you know, it got to the point that
the same people had pushed every conspiracy was pushing this,

(03:23):
and you're like, Okay, now this is the issue I have.
But the more it, you know, you look into it,
the more that you start to realize, oh my god,
there's a lot more to this.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
And there is. And here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Trump doesn't need the Senate or anybody to do anything.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
The President doesn't have to wait for Congress to release
the Epstein files. He could order the Justice Department to
make them public right now.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
But so far the President has not done that.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
No and a heartbeat, he can make it snap of singers,
Let's get it out there, Let's get it out there.
Let's do that. Let's get it out there. And just
because it goes through everything doesn't mean he's actually going
to sign it. I mean, in the last several days
He's gone from it's a hoax to it's a Democrat

(04:14):
hoax to go investigate all of the Democrats, to Marjorie
Taylor Green and them are evil and this is, you know,
something to bring down you know, his administration, to yeah,
go ahead, release it. So just because he goes through
all of this doesn't mean it is going to land
in a position where it gets on his desk and

(04:35):
he goes, yeah, I think I'll sign that.

Speaker 9 (04:36):
The House is going to op for it. That said
it's going to vop for it, and Trump says he's
going to sign it. But we really can't be so
sure that all those documents are going to be released.
And then if the Department of Justice, by the way,
says that they're going to release all the documents, how
do we know that that's the full trove of information.

Speaker 8 (04:53):
I think it's going to be hard to tell.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It is going to be hard to tell. And with
the way that the f acted, Cash, Mattel, the Department
of Justice, Pambondi, and them, I don't I don't believe
anything they say at this point in time. I think
they're they're just awful actors in this situation. So no,

(05:16):
I'm not buying any of it. I'm not And this
has nothing to do with politics. I just want to
remind everybody. I want you to listen to these women.
This has nothing to do with politics.

Speaker 10 (05:28):
I suffered so much pain, so much pain, so much pain.

Speaker 11 (05:34):
I suffered so much pain.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
I was fourteen years old, I was sixteen years old.
I was sixteen, seventeen, fourteen years old. This is me,
this was me, this is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.
This is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 10 (05:57):
They're about a thousand of us.

Speaker 11 (06:07):
It's time to bring the secrets out of the shadows.
It's time to shine a light into the darkness.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
That's the best disinfecting right there three two, three, five, three, eight,
twenty four to twenty three at Chadbenton Show. Is your ex,
your Insta, your YouTube, your Facebook and everything else. And
as I continue to say, this is not about politics.
This is about victims. This is about what they went through.

(06:38):
This is about a cover up that yes leads to politics.
But everybody's leading with the politics first because they're worried
about their side and they're not worried about the truth,
which is a shame. It is absolutely a shame. Next
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(07:00):
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Speaker 12 (07:08):
So what can consumers expect this Thanksgiving when it comes
to prices.

Speaker 13 (07:11):
So the good news is Thanksgiving is going to be
a little less expensive than it was last year. But
turkey prices are up forty percent.

Speaker 12 (07:20):
Phil Lempert is a food industry analyst known as the
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Speaker 8 (07:23):
Turkey prices, why are they up this here?

Speaker 13 (07:26):
There's a shortage of turkeys because of bird flow over
the past few years. We have less turkeys and less chickens.
And that's what he's creating this influx of prices.

Speaker 12 (07:37):
Average frozen wholesale turkeys are a dollar thirty two per pound.
That's up from ninety seven cents per pound last year.
Feast favorites cranberries are up six percent, while green beans
are up thirty two percent. However, staples like lettuce, milk,
soft drinks, and potatoes are flat or up slightly from
a year ago, while butter, bread and eggs are down.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's good, the eggs, The eggs.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know, Biden gave us the horrible egg problem bird flu,
just like bird flu with the turkeys. So my Thanksgiving
is simple. I want the turkey, I want mashed potatoes,
I want stuffing. We can do green beans and some rolls.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I don't need any of the other stuff. I don't
need your aunt Ethel's ambrosia ambrosia.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Aren't they a band?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes they are, and they're also some sort of thing
where you put everything you have that you've never eaten
into something.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
Are tariffs having an impact at all grocery prices?

Speaker 14 (08:39):
Absolutely, there's no question.

Speaker 13 (08:41):
Whether it's an imported product like olive oil or imported
cheeses or imported wines, tariffs have an effect. But also,
let's not forget there's a tariff on aluminum cans, so
that in fact, even on our canned pumpkin is going
to increase those prices.

Speaker 12 (08:57):
Grocery chains including Walmart, Aldi and Leedal have deals to
feed a family of ten for four dollars or less
per person. All include turkey, stuffing, potatoes, pie, and other sides.

Speaker 13 (09:08):
What they're doing is they're putting together ten, fifteen, twenty
items in a bundle and that way, we're forgetting about
what the price is, but we're looking at the price
per person.

Speaker 12 (09:19):
Well, Walmart's Thanksgiving meal deal is cheaper compared to last year,
it contains fewer items. Retailers understand consumers are price conscious,
so they're finding ways to make things more affordable.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Which is what we all want. And it's so, you know,
here's the tribalness of politics. The right wants Turkey Day
to be way less expensive than last year to show
everybody that is working. The left wants it to be
way more expensive to show everybody everything is failing.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
What I want it to be less or probably a
little bit more.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
When you think about and you call, you know, for
inflation and add that stuff in, I think we can
recognize that, Yes, we would all like it to be
less well, except of course, if it hurts my team.
I don't want that. If it hurts my team. If
it hurts my team, I want no part.

Speaker 14 (10:15):
Of that, Jed.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
My tribe has to be.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Absolutely suffering in this situation is so ridiculous. It is
today at the White House interesting, and we're going to
talk to our buddy Mike.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Lion's coming up in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Saudi Arabia is going to be here and it's going
to be very interesting to see because they're buying the
F thirty five's another business deal, which you know, this
is where Trump excels at. On top of that, I
believe Ronaldo showing up as well, the soccer star Christ

(10:55):
The World Cup's going to be here next year. We'll
talk a little bit more about that next hour. Infantino,
the guy who Roun's FIFA, was here yesterday talking with
Trump about the World Cup and how big it is.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Ronaldo apparently requested the opportunity to meet Trump along with
MBS today, and Ronaldo plays in Saudi Arabia, so I'm
sure they have some sort of relationship. That's probably pretty
good because Ronaldo gets away with things that others just
could never get away with, shows you the power of
sport and the game itself. So this will be interesting today.

(11:30):
You got MBS, Ronaldo and Trump, a few egos in
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Speaker 1 (13:10):
You're listening to the Chad Bencon Show.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
They're coming for Comy and guess what looks like they're
flailing here. This doesn't look like it's working out the
way they thought it was going.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
To work out.

Speaker 9 (13:21):
What the magistr judge essentially expressed was alarm over the
Trump administration's handling of the Comy.

Speaker 14 (13:28):
Case so far.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
He said that there was a deliberative excuse me, a
disturbing pattern of profound investigative missteps that may have irreversibly
tainted the prosecution of James of James Comy and violated
the former FBI director's constitutional.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Rights, which you can't do, by the way, for those
who are not keeping scored, no matter how much you
like Trump, you can't do that, just like you wouldn't
like that against Trump.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Or anybody for that matter.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And what they're looking at is several things, including the
fact that some of the information that they gathered or
trying to use were was actually information from other investigations
that fell out of the purview of this that they
gathered it illegally by just going, well, we're just going

(14:15):
to throw this into this case here, and so once
again I measure twice, cut once, do it right. And
then you've got this this lindsay, you know Halligan lady
who is in the worst position.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Nobody wanted to help her.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
They didn't want to prosecute this at all.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And what happened in the Department of Justice.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well, if you don't want to prosecute it, and you
think this is bad, we're just going to fire everybody
and we'll put in our own people. Well, you put
in your own people, one of which is this lady
who has no trial experience. So he's got no trial
experience whatsoever. So you put her in a horrible position.
She's a lawyer that focused on in insurance, not on this.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Nobody would even help.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Her because they thought this is a waste of time.
And now what Well, now you're in a position where
you've got more than just a little egg on your face.

Speaker 15 (15:15):
You have attorneys for former FBI director Comy seeking to
basically have the indictment tossed out before it would even
go to trial on a variety of arguments. And one
of the issues that has come up related to this
case is that they say the government currently is holding
onto privileged materials between Komy and one of his associates.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's the thing I talked about. So they're holding on
to stuff.

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Well, you can't do that three two, three, five, three eight,
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Speaker 3 (15:50):
So what's that mean?

Speaker 15 (15:51):
Magistrate Judge ordered the government to provide Comy with all
grand jury materials in its possession related to investigations of
Komba dating back to twenty nineteen twenty twenty, and we
have a hearing scheduled for tomorrow over whether Comi's indictment
is an example of vindictive prosecution.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I have a feeling this is not going to
end the way that the Trump administration thinks.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Let me know what you think.

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in bundling packages.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
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Cyber Monday, Travel Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
But don't we also have Giving Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
There's a lot of stuff going on on Tuesdays, which
normally doesn't happen.

Speaker 16 (16:59):
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Speaker 3 (17:15):
I think travel shouldn't they have had it? Like no, wait,
when's Small Business Saturday. That's the following week. You gotta
travel Thursday.

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(18:04):
the program, Time of the week, Talk too Tired, Major
in the Army and the best damn military analysts in
the business, Mike Lyons and Mike Let's first and foremost
start with Maduro singing, imagine the other day, hoping and
praying that there isn't going to be a hell fire
rained down upon his country.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But that being said, this whole situation, now that the
Ford is there, they didn't get dressed up for nothing,
They're there for a reason.

Speaker 18 (18:31):
Yeah, good one to chat.

Speaker 19 (18:33):
You know.

Speaker 20 (18:33):
The thing is, I spent the most time talking to
what other folks about this issue, and we all came
to the conclusion that nobody really understands the strategy here.
No one knows specifically what we're trying to do besides
project power for someone that's trying to win the Nobel
Peace Prize, the ground invasion of Venezuela doesn't make any sense.
The thing is, you're dealing with professionals, right. All of

(18:55):
the you know, the military chain of command top to
bottom are are professionals. They'll do any job that's assigned
to them, and they get you know, these legal orders,
and but what specifically is that, you know, Jasock, all
those special ops, all those guys are you know, standing
by trying to figure out what specifically is the mission here.
I don't see putting boots on the ground inside of Venezuela.

Speaker 18 (19:17):
I don't.

Speaker 20 (19:18):
I don't see that kind of regime change being conducted
by the US.

Speaker 18 (19:21):
It's not Panama.

Speaker 20 (19:23):
And so we've got to push harder on what specifically
is going on here. But to your point, they have
dressed up the military, and there's a lot of firepower
there taking out a couple of you know, speedboats bringing
small volumes of cocaine to the United States. It's just
it's just too much of a projection of power.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Talking to my client's military un lets we talk about
all things. When it comes to the military. The again, we.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Were dressed up.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
We got with so many I don't know how many
work to like ten thousand, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Soldiers that are there.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
We've got the ginormous ships, we've got the firepower when
it comes to our owns and even now some of our.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Planes.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
The reality of though going in on the ground is
way different because while their military isn't very the Venezuelan
military isn't very modern. What they do have is they
have a militia from the boulevards. They also have enough
that would cause hell, and what we have over there
isn't going to be enough to handle if we try

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to go in there.

Speaker 20 (20:27):
No, and that's the tell in that the army's not involved.
This has been a maritime navy operation from the beginning,
taken away from the Coastguard. Really, this narco terrorism projection
a lot of performative things I think taking place here.
I think the blowing up of the boats is really
just that performative. But without the army involved, I don't

(20:49):
see anything going on in the ground. And you can
send in against small units and the like that can
go after some of these facilities and try to do
you know, the counter terrorism things that take place that
we've done in other countries. They've made this analogy towards
Afghanistan and how they're communicating and they're you know, kias

(21:10):
and everything and all that goes with that means that
this is not going to be an operation I think
until the army gets involved. Once we see the army
start to deploy troops there from the eighty second, from
the one of first, from the units that have the
kind of capability of the helicopters and the like. Then we
have to really sit up and pay attention. Right, it

(21:32):
still looks more like like a projection of power.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
So your gut, what's your guts say? Is this just
a projection of power? And eventually we're going to try
to work. I mean, he you know, he said, come
take all the stuff you want. We don't really care.
But that's not enough and they don't really I mean
the other side of it, and I've been explaining this
to people, as they said Welston Moreau document, is this,
that and the other. I'm like, first of all, everybody
knows we're badasses. Nobody's gonna mess with us, and we

(21:57):
can control everything. So I think that's a little We
don't need that. But there is no clear person to
take over. The person that won last year doesn't even
have any kind of they're not in the country. Then
you've got that other lady who you know, they've talked
about this one hundred hour thing that we'll do. My
fear is we go we depose him and all of

(22:17):
a sudden there's a civil war breaking out.

Speaker 20 (22:20):
Yeah, that's what the playbook has been in the past historically.
And you're right, we don't have to send a strike
group to the Caribbean in order to project power because
you know, this is our hemisphere from the Monroe Doctor
and everybody recognizes that. Again, this is where I just
don't know what the strategy is. I think that would
be the worst possible thing. Venezuela is flush with rare

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earth minerals, with resources, and you know, obviously the socialism
is what put it in the position it's in today
as we as if you want a good example from
a historical perspective. But there's no military solution. I just
don't see the military solution here. And it won't stop
the amount of cocaine coming out of out of Columbia.

Speaker 18 (22:59):
That has to be fixed it at that rootsource as well.

Speaker 20 (23:02):
And then of course the challenge in Mexico where it
gets combined with the Chinese made fentanyl and then distribute
to the United States. Are we going to invade Mexico?
Is that the next shoot to drop here? So again
I just don't understand the strategy. I don't think They've
done a very good job of explaining it as well.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Talking to my clients military analysts. Let's switch from there
to Russia, Russia, Russia. He is not slowing down, There's
no doubt that he. I mean outside, are we even
really talking to them outside of some back channels at
this point in time. I just feel like that is
kind of on the back burner at this moment in time.
And are we just going to let him run, you know,

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run until he's done.

Speaker 18 (23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (23:42):
You know, We've talked about this leverage that Trump doesn't
feel he has in Ukraine over Russia, and there's so
many things he could have implemented by now from a
sanctions perspective, getting Europe on the same side as in
the United States. The other issue would be an umbrella
over Ukraine and NATO type air defense system to keep

(24:04):
the missiles from landing in Ukraine that keep the showering
on a daily basis right now.

Speaker 18 (24:12):
No fly zone.

Speaker 20 (24:13):
That's something that could possibly happen, but that could possibly
lead to this direct conflict with Russia. But it looks
like that the President wants to just waste time, so
to speak, and allow this to happen without making a
decision here, So weeks go by, it's the same thing,
we talk about, the same thing over and over again.
To your point, Russia is not stopping and the US

(24:33):
is really not doing anything. But they can't get patriot
missiles there fast enough right now, and we've got to
start looking at our own capability to start manufacturers. Talking
to somebody about that the other day, in the fact
that we're sending a lot of Patriot missiles and we're
going to have to start ramping up our production for
them as well.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
The Patriot missiles.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I mean, what we've done in the past is we've
sent them enough to be somewhat of a mini deterrent,
but we've not really sent them enough to be offensive
as well as defensive. And it feels like it's the
same old, same, And every day, you know, I turn
on the television, every day, I read something or something
gets sent to me.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's they make more and more in Rouds as en.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Roads as they had to Kiev, and it just feels
like I feel like they're just like, well, we're going
to wash our hands with it and we'll come back
in a year and see what happened.

Speaker 20 (25:19):
Yeah, No, it's exactly it and it seems that seems
to be what they're doing. It's it's almost like a
pocket veto of trying to get anything done. You know,
you get this result that you know they're sending another
Patriot battery there. I mean, that's a twenty four to
tube launchers. It doesn't necessarily mean it's twenty four Patriot
missiles just to so to speak, and it's not. It's
not a lot of people, it's not a lot of things.

(25:39):
I mean they need they need double that more than that.
They need ten to twenty Patriot batteries lining up. They
need to be way forward thinking over the horizon when
it comes to going after their capability. They don't have
any of that offensive capability to hit Russia where those
things are coming from. So so week by week we're
waiting for Sankstans to drop or for much much better

(26:02):
military solutions. The issue about the health fires and the sidewiners,
all those stuff, and the Tomahawk missiles that's off the
table now.

Speaker 18 (26:08):
No one wants to send those there.

Speaker 20 (26:10):
Trump doesn't think they would be a difference maker, and
I think that's once again because he just wants this
thing to get resolved on the ground.

Speaker 18 (26:17):
There without doing much more.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Speaking of sanctions, obviously, Venezuela, we're talking about that they're
the largest oil you know, amount of oil on the
planet is underneath them. You've got you know, China, and
you've got Europe that still buys certain amount of net
gas and oil from Russia. What kind of sanctions at
this point in time could we even do to put

(26:38):
a crimp inside of the machine.

Speaker 20 (26:41):
Yeah, you'd have to get all of Europe on board
and some of those you know, Eastern European countries, but
they just can't get there from here because of their
reliance on Russian energy.

Speaker 18 (26:53):
Even Germany, and you know, they're trying.

Speaker 20 (26:55):
I've got a lot of confidence in this Russian Minister's merch.
I think I think he's he's the right guy for
Germany at the right time right now, trying to clean
up that country, sending immigrants back to Syria and the like,
recognizing that you can't outsource your energy, and but we're
just not in that position. Russian knows that Russian knows
that those sanctions really can't come. The last one would

(27:17):
be this banking one that they could possibly close them out,
but I think that would have some unintended consequences again.

Speaker 18 (27:23):
For some of our allies, which we have to be
concerned about.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Talking to my clients military analysts, we talk all thanks
military overdone Blis. Obviously, yesterday the UN resolution that went through,
you had a lot of people in Israel that were mad,
but then you also had Natyah who come out and
said this is good. It is a disaster over there.
I mean, it looks like mad Max designed that place.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
It is.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's still a wild West. And yet as they talk
about all the things that they want to do, I
still don't see anybody over there outside of what's left
of Hamas and some militant groups who are policing that place.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Where the hell is everybody right where?

Speaker 20 (28:00):
The Egyptians, the Indonesians, where all the Turks, where all
those countries that promised that they would do that, they're
not there yet, and maybe they're on you know Middle
Eastern time. This is how things go over there. That
they're waiting to make sure that the situation is in
such that none of their troops will be put in
any kind of harm's way. But until that happens, until

(28:21):
Hamas disarms gives out the ministries, this isn't moving forward.
The only victory right now is the release of those hostages.
But again the ceasefire holds by a thread. Humanitarian conditions
still remain fairly dire. You have the Navy in the
Red Sea still put you know, turning who these attacks.
They've they've decided that they're going to get back in

(28:41):
the game there as well. But all this this is
a tender box, and we've talked about that before one
one match, and this opens up a really a wider
regional conflict pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You've got the Crown Prince today here in you know,
in DC, going to meet with Trump. They're rolling out
the red carpet form, and he wants closer relationships with
you know, with some sort of relationship with Israel and
Saudi Arabia. They're really seeming to be trying to bring
some stuff together. The Arabs seem to want all of this.

(29:10):
Yet something seems to continue to be missing when it
comes to getting a deal done where you really can
move forward about rebuilding and giving these people a life
and giving Israel peace.

Speaker 20 (29:23):
And I just don't think I think Trump's already on
to the next deal, which is to say, if thirty
five to Saudi Arabia. I think that's that's really what
he's focused on right now. He's not focused on that
bringing that actual stability into Gaza, recognizing that he had
the leverage to stop and get the hostages released, but

(29:44):
kind of turning it back over to the Israelis and
the rest of the world to try to figure out
the rest of it. He'll he'll likely come back at
some point when he recognizes that he can do something
and build something there, but he's already on this F
thirty five deal with the Saudi's. I think that, you know,
talking again some folks about that, know, folks in the
Pentagon have concerns about that. But I think this is
another classic Trump leverage play. You know, we're if you're

(30:07):
if you if we're giving you, if we're selling F
thirty five, so you're in that community, that's a that's
a pretty you know, such a far advanced technology. It's
it's more than just this, you know, security framework. It's
it's normalization with Israel and who has them as well,
and countering irand stabilizing energy markets. I think the F
thirty five playbook that that you're goin to be playing

(30:28):
right now is going to, you know, be the next
Trump large transaction that he's going to take a lot
of credit for.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You said the military, like some people of the Pentagon
have some Yeah, they're a little apprehension. Why are they apprehensive,
because again, it's it's this is.

Speaker 14 (30:43):
What we do.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I mean, we we this is how we make our
you know, everybody worries about well we're not we don't manufacture. Well,
the things we do produce, well, they're big ticket items.
But this is also a national security issue.

Speaker 20 (30:54):
No, it is, because the F thirty five is not
a jet. It's like an ecosystem. It's got you know,
Cent Serve fuser network described into it. It's got the
kind of software, the most advanced software we're building AI
into the r ones. We can control some of the
things that we give to our our allies with it,

(31:14):
but it's.

Speaker 18 (31:15):
Designed to be interoperable.

Speaker 20 (31:17):
So now the United States will will be very much
on the same page when it comes to Saudi Arabia
when it comes to missile defense and air defense and
air to air combat, because they're on this system. So
it's it's more than just a bunch of jets, it's
the whole. It's the whole ecosystem that goes with it,
the information that it gathers and the intel that it
collects and the like. And this is why it's going

(31:40):
to give the United States a lot more visibility into
the region. As all these these thirty fives are all
tied together.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
He's the best in the business, tired military major and
the man, the myth, the legend.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Mike Lyons.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Appreciate you coming on again. Brother, Let's do it again
next week.

Speaker 18 (31:53):
Hey chat, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 21 (33:37):
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Speaker 21 (34:29):
Apparently, these AI models, for as much as we talk
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Speaker 2 (35:40):
A lot of stuff to get to. Obviously, Epstein still
a big issue. We're going to talk more about that.
What does it actually mean? The battle that's going on
in Maga. I think it's a big conversation to have
right now because there is several different issues happening inside
of the Republican Party, which isn't the Republican Party, and

(36:02):
we're going to talk a bit about that as well,
the difference between MAGA and the Republican Party and what
it looks like going forward, which is going to be interesting,
it's no doubt about that. Plus, the pilot that tried
to bring down the plane has been sentenced.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
We'll talk about that among the other things.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
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Speaker 1 (36:23):
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Speaker 3 (36:53):
It's happening.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
The vote will happen now, this is the first vote
on the floor. Epstein, What will happen? What do we
ever going to see? Probably not a lot, Probably not
going to get anything out of this when all was
said and done the way that many people were hoping
that they would get some sort of answer to what happened.

(37:15):
And unfortunately, many people want the answers strictly so they
can either hopefully destroy Trump or destroy the Democratic Party,
not whether or not there's any kind of actual justice
out there.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
And that's a shame. But as hard as he tried,
Trump flipped. He flopped.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
He flopped, then he flipped then he flipp flopped, flop flop,
flip flip flip flop flopped, and here we go.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
For months, Trump fought to prevent this, even though he
promised during the campaign to release the files first, His
close ally Speaker Mike Johnson, kept the House out of
session for fifty four days, effectively stalling the vote. The
White House then tried to pressure Republican Congresswoman Lauren Bobert
to block the vote from happening, even summoning her to
the Situation Room to meet with Attorney General Pam Bondi

(38:00):
BI Director Cash Betel. But Bobert didn't back down.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
No, and I like that. I like the fact that
she didn't back down. But you know those things again,
the politics of it. And I've yet to find anybody
who's come to me and said, let me tell you
why it's good that we hide all this information and
protect all these people. I've yet to find anybody who

(38:25):
is who has said, oh, this is why we do this.
There is no good reason too, There isn't there's none.
And again, take the politics out of it, which is
hard to do in a day and age when politics
is everywhere. Politics lives in everything that we do. And

(38:49):
it's unfortunate because once politics gets involved, we stop worrying
about the truth and we worry about how we can
actually bend something, omit something add something to an issue
to give us a victory. And that's not what this

(39:10):
is about. The victory should be that these women have
their opportunity. And I've had more people go why aren't
they out there talking about it?

Speaker 14 (39:19):
Now?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Many of them sign NDAs, by the way, there's a
thousand of them, and many have spoken up, many have
talked about their experience. But I want you to think
about who they are. Right, you're in your thirties, maybe forties,
you've got a family. This is front and center for everybody.

(39:42):
Now what has gone on, You've got a proverbial target
on your back, and in today's world, that's scary. You
have got a target in the courtroom potentially by going
after people.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
My buddy yesterday.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Said, yeah, well they should come forward and tell their
story and not be worried about, you know, whether or
not they're gonna get sued because so many people throw
in with them.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I said, really, you think that, so it's their fault.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
It's their fault, I said, So you don't want justice,
because no, it's not about that.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I said, well, what is it?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Then, well, why haven't people named names? Why haven't people
I said, there are names out there, but a lot
of those names we know, the Wexler's, the black the
you know, David Copperfield, Gates, those kinds. But it's not them,

(40:49):
it's the others. What did they do? What didn't they do?
What did people know? What didn't they know? But it's
not about that. You're trying to make it about politics.
Should be about to justice. I thought that's what this
was about. No, it's only justice if if we can
take the other side down, which is awful.

Speaker 10 (41:10):
I suffered so much pain, so much pain, so much pain.

Speaker 11 (41:16):
I suffered so much pain.

Speaker 10 (41:21):
I was fourteen years.

Speaker 11 (41:22):
Old, I was sixteen years old, was.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Sixteen, seventeen, fourteen years old.

Speaker 10 (41:27):
This is me, This was me, This is me.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
When I met Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
This is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 10 (41:39):
They are about a thousand of us.

Speaker 11 (41:50):
It's time to bring the secrets out of the shadows.
It's time to shine a light into the darkness.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Not right, there is a psa that many of them
have out there, and I just look at this, and
I think again it's about the victims.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
It should be about the politics. And at this point
in time.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
With the politics, what do you think you're going to
get out of it? Do you think you can get
anything out of it? Do you think stuff hasn't been scrubbed?
At least the CIA is honest and go, yeah, we'll
burn it all. Well, at least you're honest about it.
But I will tell you politics is going to be
affected by this. And you know, was talking to michae

(42:33):
Lions or military analysts, you know, as we were chatting,
you know, the other day about this.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I see he says, what do you think is going
to happen?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I'll say, I think one of the things that Democrats
are doing is they're looking over there and they're thinking, dah,
we're over the Clintons. We don't care anymore, We're done
with them, we don't care if they're implicating any of this.
They're more of a pain in our ass, and they're
more yesterday than they are future. So if they're caught

(43:00):
up in this, that's a them problem. People are making
political decisions once again, never never really thinking do.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
You think there's maybe some sort of justices should be
served here. Let me know what you think.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
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(43:37):
earlier today, among other things open ai as well. And
this is the beginning of what is I'm sure going
to be the battle of hackers and hackees. Welcome to
the modern world. It is.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
It's online, it's online.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
And I continue to go back to this when it
comes to quote unquote the modern world of online. What
would happen in today's world if the Internet went away,
even for a day or two?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
What would people do?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
How would they lose their blanking minds? Ted Cruz, No,
he's not lost his mind, but he does want to
be president of the United States.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
There's some youth this morning from an axu's report that
Senator Ted Cruz was laying the groundwork for a potential
twenty twenty eight presidential run.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Can I get your reaction to would you?

Speaker 14 (44:35):
Could you see yourself supporting?

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Says a friend of mine. I mean, no, I haven't
spoken to him about it's literally it's three and a
quarter years. It's a long time. But he's a very
good guy. He's a very good friend of mine. You
remember we had quite a campaign against Ted and it
worked out quite nictally. Wishee where all the old.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
But no, no, that's a lion Ted, Remember that one
he's called them lion Ted? Was that before or after?
I think he tried to accuse Ted Cruz's father was
killing Kennedy.

Speaker 14 (45:10):
It's something insane.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I'm not surprised Ted's thinking about it either. And it's
simple to see. Here's the thing with Maga, and we're
going to get into it coming up in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
It's wide open because Maga is Trump.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
They can all pretend that this movement is based in
you know, some sort of real, you know, solid foundation
of these are the core principles of what we follow.
The reality is Maga is Trump. He is the glue.
He's the lynchpin. He keeps it all together. Once he's

(45:54):
gone from the political sphere of running, it's going to
be wide open. And it's becoming wide open. I mean,
they're already talking about why is that well part of
it's lame duck. People are looking at Trump not just
because he's not going to run again, also because what
they suffered a couple of weeks ago, you know, at

(46:18):
the polls, what people think they may suffer next year again,
you know, we'll be here for it. But that being said,
it's too early to tell what's going to look like
because the economy stupid, But what does that look like
next year? And the lame duck side of things that
lands for all presidents is starting earlier and earlier, especially

(46:39):
when you're throw on the Epstein stuff and you know
what is going on.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
So it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
And we're going to talk about the battle going on
in Maga and what it looks like because it is
going to be a battle, there is no doubt about that.
Today Saudi Arabia MBS at the White House. Interesting of
course MBS. So this is not an official like state event.

(47:07):
So you know, I think that's a lot of people.
It's just one of the No it's not an official
state event, and the reasons because we don't have the giant,
huge tent up yet. No, it's not that, because it's
just not But they're coming here for business, but also
the controversy surrounding what took place with Kashogi, the murdering
of him, all of this stuff, and there's always controversies,

(47:30):
you know that. When it comes to dealings with Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 22 (47:34):
He and President Trump have had a warm relationship, and
Trump is now supporting a plan to sell F thirty
five fighter jets to the Saudi's move, some US officials
fear could expose sensitive technology to China. The administration also
facing pushback from Israel, concerned about maintaining its military edge
in the region.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Well, Israel wants US to sign a twenty year deal
with them, and the reason is normally they do ten years,
but they want a twenty year deal because I think
they see the writing on the wall. The relationship in
the coming years isn't going to be as cozy as
it's been. But it's business. Trump loves business. He's selling stuff.
It's going to be interesting what you got. He's probably
gonna lay out a menu of stuff. What would you like,

(48:15):
We'd like an F thirty five. We can help you
with that. Are you paying cash? We are paying cash.
Here's the other thing I was joking about. What do
you think they're going to bring him today because the
Swiss brought him a rolly, some gold and chocolates. I
think I wondered with the Saudi's from bringing him. Coming
up a lot of stuff to get to, including some

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Speaker 1 (49:38):
Joe, you're listening to the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
With all the chaos of travel over the last couple
weeks because of the shutdown, do you guys remember this
story about the pilot that lost his mind right, started
hallucinating and tried to I don't know, crash the plane.

Speaker 14 (50:04):
Thirty second in my life. I wish it could change
and I can.

Speaker 23 (50:07):
In October twenty twenty three, he was riding in the
jump seat off duty on a flight from Everett, Washington
to San Francisco when he says he began to hallucinate.

Speaker 14 (50:15):
There was a feeling of being trapped.

Speaker 23 (50:17):
He stood up in the cockpit and pulled red handles,
which are meant to shut off the engines in the
case of a fire, but it didn't work. The flight
landed safely and Emerson was let off the plane in cuffs.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, so that was Joseph Emerson who lost his blanking mind.
Cuss took some mushrooms, and it was his sentencing going
to jail. We're not going to jail. That's an interesting question.
What would you do if it was me and I
was the judge. I think I would have done the
same thing this judge did.

Speaker 23 (50:46):
Prosecutors pushed for a one year prison sentence, but lawyers
say Emerson was not aware that he has a rare
condition making the effects of psychedelic drugs last for days
instead of hours, and the pilot who helped remove him
from the cockpit. The judge not to send Emerson to
prison morning it could discourage other pilots from seeking medical help.
The judge agreed, saying pilots are not perfect, they're human,

(51:10):
while noting that Emerson has already lost his career and
is never allowed to fly a plane again.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, I wouldn't send him to jail. Dude's lost everything,
hopefully and get his life back together. It was a
moment he faced up to twenty years in jail. They
wanted a year in jail, and in reality, dude had
lost I mean had lost his fricking mind. He said
he was detached from reality for several days. You think
about that for a second. He was not there for

(51:37):
several days because this stuff stayed in his system.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
As the kids would say, he was tripping balls. I
do believe that that's what it gets.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Would say he tried to basically pull something that would
have shut off the engines and caused the plane to crash.
He thought he was asleep and he was trying to
wake up. There was two red firehands, and if you'd
have pulled them down, then the engines would have cut
so because that was the fire extinguisher system and that

(52:08):
shuts off the fuel supply to the engines. They said
they grabbed his rifts and he was struggling, and then
he gave up and left the cockpit three two, three, five, three, eight,
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(52:29):
he's got three years of court supervision.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
He had a state.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Charges against him in Oregon and he got fifty days
sentence and five years probation. He served already forty six
days when he was originally arrested. Cuckoo, speaking of travel,
the world will be traveling to America. That's right, as
big as the Olympics are next summers. I tried to

(52:58):
explain to my friends here who were like you like
that sissy football? What's coming dwarfs the Olympics and the
Super Bowl and college football altogether, and that is the
World Cup. Infantino, the guy who runs FIFA, was in
town yesterday talking to Trump about a lot of different things.

(53:18):
As yes, the world is getting ready to arrive in
a mark.

Speaker 7 (53:22):
This will be a once in a lifetime opportunity to
showcase the great news of American world class athletic competition
as we celebrate our nations two hundred and fiftieth year.
The World Cup will also be an incredibly significant economic
opportunity for capitalist American workers and businesses.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
It's going to be huge.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
They've expanded the World Cup next year, so there'll be
more games. It's going to go for over a month.
You have forty eight teams because they've expanded it one
hundred and four games. The economic revenue, just to give
you a snapshot, okay, what they're expecting from the Olympics
out four point seven to six billion, give or take

(54:06):
for the Olympics, the World Cup thirty billion an economic
revenue for the country. Damn, if you're missing any of
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Speaker 17 (54:18):
Show, then Chad Benson Show, the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
The battle of Maga is just beginning. And yes, the
Epstein stuff I think is going to play a role
in it. But there's more to it than just that.
We were talking earlier about Ted Cruz. He's running. You know,
who's going to take it over? Jd Vance, what is
over mean? What do you mean who's going to take
it over? Here's the issue with MAGA. Make America great again. Okay,

(55:07):
I always thought America was great, but whatever, the problem
with MAGA is the reason for Mega meaning Trump now.
Not talking about him being a problem, We've gone over that.
I'm talking about the fact that it's a cult of
personality built on him. And again, this has nothing to

(55:31):
do with good or bad or any of these things.
I'm just talking about the fact that when you know,
you hear stuff like rhino. Oh, that guy's a rhino.
I'm like, what's a rhino? This is a Republican in
name only. Well, what does that even mean? Well, they're
not conservative, I said, Well, Maga's not conservative. Yes it is.
I'm like, explain to me how Maga's conservative. I see

(55:51):
the core identity of conservatism, limited government, strong national defense,
fiscal restraint, free markets, respect for institutions, stayble rules, predictable policies,
et cetera, et cetera. Maga is none of those things. Populism,
loyalty to Trump, do not trust government or the elites,

(56:12):
consistent belief that everything is rigged against you, more emotion
than philosophy, and it's about fighting back rather than policy.
I'm not saying those things are bad. I'm not saying
they're good. But when I hear Republican in name only

(56:33):
in these kind of things, I laugh because MAGA is
not conservative.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
It's not Trump's not a conservative.

Speaker 14 (56:40):
Trump is.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
He's a chameleon. What do I need to be at
this moment in time to do whatever it is that
I need to do. Then I will morph myself into
that in a way we go. So it is not
the same. Conservatives believe in the institutions right, the constitution,
the courts, the system. They want policies that win through

(57:03):
the system. They don't want the emotion guiding it. MAGA
sees things as corrupt. They want disruption, not reforms, fighting
over governing, and that's the issue. But on top of
all of that the thing that we've talked about is
the loyalty to Trump. See Trump's persona built mega, Trump's

(57:27):
media style built MAGA, Trump's power of celebrity, his magnetism,
all of the things built MAGA. Without Trump, there is
no MAGA. And that's the issue. He is the glue
that binds everything together. And right now there is a massive,

(57:49):
huge battle inside of Trump world. You've already got Ted
Cruz coming out saying he's thinking about running. Right they
put together their exploratory committee in the whole nine yards.
And by the way, this is an issue also for
the Democrats because the Democrats have spent the last decade
fighting against Trump. They don't really know anything else at
this point in time. It has just been reactionary to Trump.

(58:11):
That's how strong his personality has been, that's how big
he has become.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
That he dominates everything.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
And because he dominates everything, that even makes his if
you will, opponents, his enemies, whatever, it is top of
mind all the time is what he does. So the
issue going forward is where do they go. I mean,
they're having a big battle right now. Because a Nick Fuentes,
who's Nick Fuentes. He is the guy that is First

(58:44):
of all, he's a massive troll. I'm just gonna tell
you guys that right now. I know, you see if
he's a white nationalist, he's all of these things. Yeah,
he probably is all of those things. I also think a.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Lot of what he says is uh, WHOI did you
just say?

Speaker 21 (58:58):
Who?

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I think a lot of it he doesn't believe. But
I will tell you this, he has the ear of
the young. And the split right now in MAGA is
big and they're fighting to see who takes over the
MAGA movement. Charlie Kirk kept it together a lot more
than people realized. He kept the the MAGA movement. He

(59:25):
grounded Trump in a lot of ways when it came
to questions what's going on, especially with you know, the
young and what's happening out there. He had a position
where he had a lot more influence than I think
of a lot of people even realize. So now it's

(59:46):
wide open, and there was always going to be an issue.
I mean, everybody recognized that a lot of imitators out there,
But who's going to cut their path?

Speaker 7 (59:58):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (59:58):
The movement that dies?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Is the next tea party where you get a few
people that emulate some of the things, but do their
own thing or is this really a movement? And I
think without Trump, it's not a movement. So that's why
everybody's battling at this moment in time. Because I also
think and from what I've talked to many of the
people in and around all of these people, for the
most part, they look at Trump as kind of a

(01:00:21):
lame duck, a bit wounded. Now is the time to
set the course that you need to set while he
does his thing for as long as he possibly can
to get things done. But the Nick Fuentes thing, when
the young it's a big deal.

Speaker 14 (01:00:37):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It is a it's a big deal because the young
are leaving the help to get Trump over the line.
Now they're like, ah, I don't know if this is
what I want between Israel, between all of the stuff
that we're seeing with you know, bringing in you know,
all these foreign students and workers, the you know, they're
getting rid of the red make America great again, going
to the blue hat that just says America first.

Speaker 24 (01:01:02):
One of the things that has been very illustrative of
the cracks is the Nick Fuentes issue and the fact
that Tucker Carlston hosted Nick Fuentes, who is a white
supremacist and racist and anti Semite. I mean all of
the iss and the isms. That's what this guy is.

(01:01:22):
And if you just go online and look at some
of the things he says and you'll understand.

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
Just what I'm talking about. The President.

Speaker 24 (01:01:31):
I asked Marjorie Taylor Green about him, and she just said,
it's up to Tucker, and she didn't she distanced himself
herself from his views. President Trump did not distance himself
from Nick quent Is his views. Listen to what he said.

Speaker 7 (01:01:47):
We've had some great interviews with Tucker Carlson, but you
can't tell him who to interview.

Speaker 14 (01:01:51):
I mean, if he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
To interview Nick Fluentees, I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:01:54):
Know much about him, but if he wants to do it,
get the word out let him. You know, people have
to decide ultimately, people after this.

Speaker 24 (01:02:01):
So now, he did have dinner with Nick Wuentes and
Kanye West at mar A Lago, which he was reminded of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yes, that did happen. That was during one of Kanye's
manic episodes. And he, by the way, Nick is, you know,
believes most black people should be in jail doesn't buy
the Holocaust. I mean, he goes on and on, but
he does have a younger generation's ear when it comes
to America first, there's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
There's no doubt he does.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
And Eve and you know me, I'm a free speech absolutist,
And people say, would you interview him? Hell yeah, I'd
interview one hundred percent. I'd interview because I think we
should have every voice out there, because you make the
right decision by hearing everything.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
And by the way, as I've always said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
This, when crazy goes away because you tell crazy that
they can't be heard, that's when crazy goes from being
and just kind of a kind of crazy to oh,
oh maybe we should pay attention. So not that I'm
thinking Nick Nick is not one of those guys I
think it's gonna pick up a do anything crazy. But

(01:03:12):
I'm just telling you he was silenced for a long
time and he has been as outspoken against MAGA and
Trump as anybody because everybody sees what they see blood
in the water. They see the opportunity to grab their
piece of this, and they see this movement falling apart,

(01:03:32):
they see the opportunity to take advantage of what they're
seeing is a weakening moment. And what did it start with.
It started with Epstein feeling like they've been lied to.

Speaker 24 (01:03:43):
But I think this is indicative of him not wanting
to stop the fractures within the Mega movement that are
becoming wider and wider by the day.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:03:51):
And if you remember during the campaign, after that dinner
with Nick Froontes and Kanye West at Mr Lago, there
was a large freak out and Trump's senior staff trying
to put in new protocols. I've wrote about this in
my book. At the time, they were really concerned that
people were getting to Trump and they set up protocols
to try to keep those sorts of people away from him.
And so this, Jackie, to your point, this is convulsing

(01:04:14):
the MACA movement, the conservative wing of the party, and
it's it's a concern because for Trump and the Republicans,
because they've been so united behind him in every step
of the way, and we're seeing so many fractures.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
So many fractures.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I mean, I've got friends who are with Trump till
the end period case close, and I've got a lot
of people I know that voted for him and like,
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I'm done being told that everything's great. I'm done being
told that he's America first. I'm done with the Epstein stuff.
I'm done with Israel. I'm done with So there is
a myriad of issues going on, and Trump's again, Trump's magnetism,
his personality, his his at times bully pulpit, you know,

(01:04:58):
bull in a china shop. Have kept this thing together,
but it wasn't going to last forever. And I think
now more than ever, we're looking at a lame duck
situation where people are going, okay, well he is first
of all the Epstein stuff, He's already you know, back forth, sideways, this,
that and the other. He looks weak. He is a

(01:05:19):
lame duck. So let's take advantage of it and get
at it. If things were great, would Ted Cruz be
thinking about it now? No? I think he looks and thinks, oh, okay,
now what can I do to take the best of
whatever Trump's done and run with it. You're already hearing
rumblings of the you know what's going to happen is
at Rubio is a JD vance. Why people are looking

(01:05:40):
at this and trying to position themselves inside of a
movement that I still believe without Trump doesn't survive.

Speaker 24 (01:05:49):
One of the reasons why it's so important right now
is where is this movement going to go? And the
fact that Tucker Carlson has ended up where he is
right now having people like Nick, Nick Puentez and others
who are really openly vile in some cases, another case
is just wholeheartedly America first and only America first. That

(01:06:10):
really poses the question of where it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I don't think being America first is a bad thing,
and I don't think interviewing everybody, regardless of how you feel
they were upset because they didn't Philly pushed back strong enough.
I can understand that, then call him out on his
bs again, I can understand that. But that being said,

(01:06:34):
it's beginning now. The fractures aren't there. These things are chasms,
and there's not enough arms and legs for Trump to
pull this thing together.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
And the question is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
There anybody that can rise to that level and hold
this thing together or do we think it's going to
fall apart across the board. I believe that you're going
to find hybrid versions of it, taking some of the
best of what Trump did and abandoning some of the

(01:07:09):
stuff that drove the average politician crazy because you know,
let's be real, at times, Trump a little overdoing it
when it comes to certain things. Oh, it's going to
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Speaker 25 (01:11:06):
The wolves eventually retreat and the man walks away. Previously,
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if you don't know what that is, massive outage started
earlier today on the interwebs, disruption across the board on
ax Chat, GPT and many others.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
What was it?

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Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Epstein, What will happen, what won't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
The reality is they can vote on it, they can
do all of these things. What will be released and
won't be released will be a mystery, There's no doubt
about that. It will absolutely be a mystery. I couldn't
tell you what's going to be released. I don't know
what it looks like when all is said and done,
when everything is scrubbed. You got the Department of Justice,

(01:13:57):
and that's Trump's Department of Justice doing whatever he's doing
and whatever they're doing to the files.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
And this is if any of these things ever get out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I have been pretty forward in saying I think a
vast majority of this stuff is going to be scrubbed
and will never get out. And I want everybody to understand,
this was never about politics, but it came about politics.
It should never have been about politics. It should have
been about justice, but it became about politics when politicians

(01:14:28):
and power brokers used opportunities to do horrible things to
young girls and use their power and money and positions
to shield themselves from justice, which is absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
And this administration, this is an unforced air because no
matter what you do with this point in time, there are.
There's a large swath of yes, even MAGA supporters, who
look at you now as somebody who protected.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
The powerful. You were supposed to be different.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
You were, And that is the fracture, as we're talking
about last hour, that people are seeing that this is
now become politics, and because of that, there was weakness,
and that weakness is being preyed upon by people inside
the MAGA movement or whatever the movement is itself. I

(01:15:41):
look and only care about the victims, and I want
to see justice and truth, and I don't care about
the politics. I don't care if it's one side, both sides.
There needs to be accountability and there won't be, and
it's unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Well, I want to see every single name released so
that these women don't have to live in fear and intimidation,
which is something I've had a small taste of in
just the past few days, just a small taste.

Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
They've been living it for years.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
But the real test will be will the Department of
Justice release the files or will it all remain tied
up in investigations? Will the CIA release the files, will
a federal will a judge in New York, sorry, a
judge in New York release the information that's information that
needs to come out. And will the list of names

(01:16:41):
that these women privately hold, and they hold it because
of their fear in their heart of what would happen
to them if they release it on their own, Will
that list of names come out?

Speaker 8 (01:16:55):
That's the real test.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
So I want to thank Thomas Man and Rocanna for
your bravery and doing something, doing something that is much
needed in America, crossing the political aisle that has become
bigger than the Grand Canyon in America. But these men
cross that aisle on behalf of these women, and that

(01:17:21):
is more of what is needed today in America than
ever in our history.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I absolutely believe that to be true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
When it comes to Okahanna and Thomas Massey and by
the way they've gone after Marchar Retailer Green, and again,
you know what, There's been plenty of times I have
disagreed with Marjorietailer Green, but I will tell you this
right now, what she has gone through, the stuff that
is happening to her is horsecrap.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
And it's because we have a group of people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Who haven't insane devotion to a man to the point
where it is crazy it is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
It's uncomfortable at times. I get it every.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Day, not to that extent, but I have. It is
nuts and again it became politics and when it shouldn't
have been politics. I think most people want the truth.
Most people want justice. I don't know too many people
out there who don't want to know the truth about this.

(01:18:35):
They're talking about a thousand victims and what do I
get on several different occasions a day. I don't care.
I don't as long as my gas is cheap and
we fix immigration, or my groceries are cheaper, and I'm

(01:18:56):
like some people are. That's the devotion to a cult
of personality. And I've been very open about whether or
not I think Trump did anything. I didn't think he did.
But now it's not whether or not you did something,
it's what did you know and when did you know it?
Because as we're seeing with these emails and stuff, Remember

(01:19:18):
these emails that we're getting have zero to do with
the files. These are emails that come from the family
of Jeffrey Epstein, so they have nothing to do with
the files that are in custody, and the CIA's burned anything.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
They're no fools.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
The FBI on you know. On the other hand, who
knows what they've done. But it'll be interesting throughout the
day to get the reaction to see.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
And wonder what's Trump doing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
You wanted transparency, you want to be the most transparent, Well,
this is your opportunity to be the most transparent.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
And the more that you push back, the the more
that you don't want it. The more that you flip,
The more that you flop, the more that people look
around and go, mmmm, it feels like there's something there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Let me know what you think.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Three, two, three, five, three eight, twenty four to twenty
three at chadmentson shows your ex or insta, YouTube and more.
We're learning more about cloud Flare.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
San Francisco based infrastructure company cloud Flare has been hit
with what it calls widespread errors for clients including x
open ai and Spotify. The company says it has identified
the issue and is fixing it in the meantime. If
you try to monitor the situation by checking the normally
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user of cloud Flare services that has been affected by
the outage, and that outage, well, was it hackers?

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Was it not hackers?

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
There was an unusual spike in traffic right before the outage,
and it hit a ton of stuff. It did, and
I had several people go, I can't get on this.
I can't get on that, And even some of the
side that I've used and I go to every day
still saying, you know, cloud flare air and it's come back,

(01:21:07):
it's gone away, it's come back again. So this is interesting.
I mean, you know, I talked about it last hour.
I'll talk about it again. We're so connected that it's
almost weird. It's like nothing's working. What do we do
from here? I don't know what do we normally do

(01:21:28):
back in the olden days of the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
I don't know what we did back then.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
So we Technology is awesome, but when it goes sideways, man,
the people freak out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Who do I call? What do I do? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Turkey day next week? Gobble gobbl How expensive will it be?
I couldn't tell you. I could look at twelve different
things when it comes to pricing, as far as polls
and whatnot and studies, and they all give me something different.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
It's going to be cheaper, it's going to be more expensive.
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 12 (01:22:08):
So what can consumers expect this Thanksgiving when it comes
to prices.

Speaker 13 (01:22:11):
So the good news is Thanksgiving is going to be
a little less expensive than it was last year. But
turkey prices are up forty percent.

Speaker 12 (01:22:20):
Phil Lempert is the food industry analyst known as the
supermarket Guru.

Speaker 8 (01:22:23):
Turkey prices, why are they up this year.

Speaker 14 (01:22:26):
There's a shortage of turkeys because of bird flu.

Speaker 13 (01:22:29):
Over the past few years, we have less turkeys and
less chickens, and that's what's creating this influx of prices.

Speaker 12 (01:22:37):
Average frozen wholesale turkeys are a dollar thirty two per pound.
That's up from ninety seven cents per pound last year.
Feast favorites cranberries are up six percent, while green beans
are up thirty two percent. However, staples like lettuce, milk,
soft drinks, and potatoes are flat or up slightly from
a year ago, while butter, bread and eggs are down.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Okay, that's good. What's that mean? I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I mean, we just get the staples, but we do
get a little bit more expensive turkey because we get
one of those farm to fresh kind of things at
this farmer market. And it's awesome as most of the
credible turkey I've ever had. Last year, it was just amazing.
But outside of that, everything's just kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
You know, somewhat store bought. So is it more I
expect it to be a little bit more expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Is it expensive to the point where last year was
one hundred and forty dollars, this year at seven hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
No, it's not that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
But again, because we've turned Turkey Day into politics.

Speaker 8 (01:23:35):
Are tariffs having an impact at all grocery prices?

Speaker 14 (01:23:38):
Absolutely, there's no question.

Speaker 13 (01:23:39):
Whether it's an imported product like olive oil or imported
cheeses or imported wines, tariffs have an effect.

Speaker 14 (01:23:47):
But also let's not forget there's a.

Speaker 13 (01:23:49):
Tariff on aluminum cans, so that in fact, even on
our canned pumpkin is going to increase those prices.

Speaker 12 (01:23:55):
Grocery chains including Walmart, Aldi and Leedal have deals to
feed a family of ten for four dollars or less
per person. All include turkey, stuffing, potatoes, pie, and other signs.

Speaker 13 (01:24:07):
What they're doing is they're putting together ten, fifteen, twenty
items in a bundle, and that way we're forgetting about
what the price is, but we're looking at the price
per person.

Speaker 12 (01:24:18):
Well, Walmart's Thanksgiving meal deal is cheaper compared to last year.

Speaker 8 (01:24:21):
It contains fewer items.

Speaker 12 (01:24:23):
Retailers understand consumers are price conscious, so they're finding ways
to make things more affordable.

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because of that, she's kind of looking like a fool.

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The judge said, if this proper procedure behind the scenes
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The court is an unchartered legal territory in that the
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That would be.

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Remember, none of this is public. Why the judge is ordering.

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That that be turned over to Comey's defense council.

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Yeah, this is not a good look. They look at
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Talk to tired major in the army and the best
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Let's first and foremost start with Maduro singing. Imagine the
other day, hoping and praying that there isn't going to
be a hell fire rained down upon his country. But
that being said, this whole situation, now that the Ford

(01:31:46):
is there, they didn't get dressed up for nothing. They're
there for a reason.

Speaker 18 (01:31:51):
Yeah, good onreing, Chad.

Speaker 20 (01:31:52):
You know, the thing is, I spent the most time
talking to what other folks about this issue, and we
all came to the conclusion that nobody really understands the
strat that you hear. No one knows specifically what we're
trying to do besides project power for someone that's trying
to win the Nobel Peace Prize. The ground invasion into
Venezuela doesn't doesn't make any sense. The thing is, you're

(01:32:13):
dealing with professionals, right. All of the you know, the
military chain of command top to bottom, are professionals, and
they'll do any job that's assigned to them, and they get,
you know, these legal orders. And but what specifically is
that you know, Jasock, all those special ops, all those guys,
are you know, standing by trying to figure out what
specifically is the mission here. I don't see putting boots

(01:32:36):
on the ground inside of Venezuela.

Speaker 18 (01:32:37):
I don't.

Speaker 20 (01:32:37):
I don't see that kind of regime change being conducted
by the US. It's not Panama, and so we've got
to push harder on what specifically is going on here.
But to your point, they have dressed up the military
and there's a lot of firepower there.

Speaker 18 (01:32:53):
Taking out a couple of you know, speedboats.

Speaker 20 (01:32:56):
Bringing small volumes of cocaine to the United States is
just it's just too much of a projection of power.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Talking to my client's military analysts, we talk about all things.
When it comes to the military. The again, we were
dressed up. We got with so many I don't know
how many wept to like ten thousand you know soldiers
that are there. We've got the ginormous ships, we've got
the firepower. When it comes to our drones and even
now some of our you know planes. The reality of though,

(01:33:25):
going in on the ground is way different because while
their military isn't very the Venezuelan military isn't very modern,
what they do have is they have a militia from
the boulevards. They also have enough that would cause hell,
and what we have over there isn't going to be
enough to handle if we try to go in there.

Speaker 20 (01:33:47):
No, And that's the tell in that the Army's not involved.
This has been a maritime navy operation from the beginning,
taken away from the Coastguard. Really this narco terrorism projection
a lot of perform things I think taking place here.
I think the blowing up of the boats is really
just that performative. But without the Army involved, I don't

(01:34:09):
see anything going on in the ground. And you can
send in against small units and the like that can
go after some of these facilities and try to do
you know, the counter terrorism things that take place that
we've done in other countries. They've made this analogy towards
Afghanistan and how they're communicating and they're you know, kias

(01:34:30):
and everything and all that goes with that means that
this is not going to be an operation I think
until the Army gets involved. Once we see the Army
start to deploy troops there from the eighty second, from
the one to first, from the units that have the
kind of capability of the helicopters and the like. Then
we have to really sit up and pay attention. Right,

(01:34:52):
it still looks more like like a projection of power.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
So your gut, what your guts say? Is this just
a projection of power? And eventually we're going to try
to work. I mean he you know, he said, come
take all the stuff you want. We don't really care.
But that's not enough and they don't really I mean
the other side of it, And I've been explaining this
to people, as they said Welston Monreau document is this,
that and the other. I'm like, first of all, everybody
knows we're badasses. Nobody's gonna mess with us, and we

(01:35:16):
can control everything. So I think that's a little we
don't need that. But there is no clear person to
take over. The person that won last year doesn't even
have any kind of they're not in the country. Then
you've got that other lady who you know, they've talked
about this one hundred hour thing that we'll do. My
fear is we go we depose him and all of

(01:35:37):
a sudden there's a civil war breaking out.

Speaker 20 (01:35:39):
Yeah, that's what the playbook has been in the past historically.
And you're right, we don't have to send a strike
group to the Caribbean in order to project power, because
you know, this is our hemisphere from the Monroe Doctor
and everybody recognizes that. Again, this is where I just
don't know what the strategy is. I think that would
be the worst possible thing. Venezuela is flush with rare

(01:36:00):
earth minerals, with resources, and you know, obviously the socialism
is what put it in the position it's in today
as we as if you want a good example from
a historical perspective, But there's no military solution. I just
don't see the military solution here. And it won't stop
the amount of cocaine coming out of out of Columbia.

Speaker 18 (01:36:19):
That has to be fixed at at that root source
as well.

Speaker 20 (01:36:22):
And then of course the challenge in Mexico where it
gets combined with the Chinese made fentanyl and then distribute
to the United States. Are we going to invade Mexico?
Is that the next shoot to drop here? So again
I just don't understand the strategy. I don't think they've
done a very good job of explaining it as well talking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
To my clients military analysts. Let's switch from there to Russia.
Russia Russia. He is not slowing down. There's no doubt
that he. I mean outside, are we even really talking
to them outside of some back channels at this point
in time. I just feel like that is kind of
on the back burner at this moment in time. And
are we just going to let him run, you know,

(01:37:00):
run until he's done.

Speaker 18 (01:37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:37:02):
You know, we've talked about this leverage that Trump doesn't
feel he has in Ukraine over Russia, and there's so
many things he could have implemented by now from a
sanctions perspective, getting Europe on the same side as the
United States. The other issue would be an umbrella over Ukraine,
a NATO type air defense system to keep the missiles

(01:37:25):
from landing in Ukraine that keep the showering on a
daily basis right now, no fly zone. That's something that
could possibly happen, but that could possibly lead to this
direct conflict with Russia. But it looks like that the
President wants to just waste time, so to speak, and
allow this to happen without making a decision here, so

(01:37:47):
weeks go by.

Speaker 18 (01:37:48):
It's the same thing. We talked about, the same thing
over and over again.

Speaker 20 (01:37:50):
To your point, Russia is not stopping and the US
is really not doing anything. But they can't get Patriot
missiles there fast enough right now, and we've got to
start looking at our own capability to start manufacturer was
talking to somebody about that the other day, in the
fact that we're sending a lot of Patriot missiles and
we're going to have to start ramping up our production
for them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
The Patriot missiles.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I mean, what we've done in the past is we've
sent them enough to be somewhat of a mini deterrent,
but we've not really sent them enough to be you know,
offensive as well as defensive.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
And it feels like it's the same old same, And.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Every day, you know, I turn on the television, every day,
I read something or something gets sent to me. It's
they make more and more in Rouds as in roads
as they had to Kiev, and it just feels like
I feel like they're just like, well, we're going to
wash our hands with it and we'll come back in
a year and see what happened.

Speaker 20 (01:38:38):
Yeah, No, it's exactly it. And it seems that seems
to be what they're doing. It's it's almost like like
a pocket veto of trying to get anything done. You know,
you get this result that you know they're sending another
Patriot battery there. I mean that's a twenty four to
tube launchers. It doesn't necessarily mean it's twenty four Patriot
missiles just to so to speak, and it's not. It's
not a lot of people, it's not a lot of things.

(01:38:59):
I mean, they need they double that more than that.
They need ten to twenty Patriot batteries lining up. They
need to be way forward thinking over the horizon when
it comes to going after their capability. They don't have
any of that offensive capability to hit Russia where those
things are coming from. So week by week we're waiting
for sanctions to drop or for much much better military solutions.

(01:39:23):
The issue about the health fires and the sidewiners, all
those stuff, and the Tomahawk missiles that's off the table now.
No one wants to send those there. Trump doesn't think
they would be a difference maker. And I think that's
once again because he just wants this thing to get
resolved on the ground there without doing much more.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Speaking of sanctions, obviously, Venezuela, we're talking about that they're
the largest oil amount of oil on the planet is
underneath them. You've got you know, China, and you've got
Europe that still buys certain amount of net gas and
oil from Russia. What kind of sanctions at this point
in time could we even do to put a crimp

(01:39:59):
inside of the machine.

Speaker 20 (01:40:01):
Yeah, you'd have to get all of Europe on board,
and some of those you know, Eastern European countries, but
they just can't get there from here because of their
reliance on Russian energy. Even Germany, and you know they're trying.
I've got a lot of confidence in this Russian Minister's merch.
I think I think he's the right guy for Germany
at the right time, right now, trying to clean up

(01:40:24):
that country, sending immigrants back this area and the like,
recognizing that you can outsource your energy, and but we're
just not in that position. Russian knows that Russian knows
that those sanctions really can't come. The last one would
be this banking one that they could possibly close them out,
but I think that would have some unintended consequences again
for some of our allies, which we have to be

(01:40:45):
concerned about.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Talking to my clients military analysts, we talk all things
military overdone to least obviously yesterday the UN resolution that
went through, you had a lot of people in Israel
that were mad, but then you also had Natyah who
come out and said this is good. It is a
disaster over there. I mean, it looks like mad Max
designed that place.

Speaker 14 (01:41:04):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
It's still a wild West.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
And yet as they talk about all the things that
they want to do, I still don't see anybody over
there outside of what's left of Hamas and some militant
groups who are policing that place.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Where the hell is everybody.

Speaker 20 (01:41:20):
Right where the Egyptians, the Indonesians, where all the Turks,
where all those countries that promised that they would do that.
They're not there yet, and maybe they're on you know,
Middle Eastern time. This is how things go over there.
They're waiting to make sure that the situation is in
such that none of their troops will be put in
any kind of harm's way. But until that happens, until

(01:41:41):
Hamas disarms gives out the ministries, this isn't moving forward.
The only victory right now is the release of those hostages.
But again, the ceasefire holds by a thread. Humanitarian conditions
still remain fairly dire. You have the Navy in the
Red Sea still put you know, turning who these attacks.
They've decided that they're going to get back in the

(01:42:01):
game there as well. But all this this is a tinderbox,
and we've talked about that before one one match, and
this opens up really a wider regional conflict pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
You've got the Crown Prince today here in you know,
in DC, going to meet with Trump. They're rolling out
the red carpet form, and he wants closer relationships with,
you know, with some sort of relationship with Israel and
Saudi Arabia. They're really seeming to be trying to bring
some stuff together. The Arabs seem to want all of this,

(01:42:30):
Yet something seems to continue to be missing when it
comes to getting a deal done where you really can
move forward about rebuilding and giving these people a life
and giving Israel peace.

Speaker 20 (01:42:43):
And I just don't think I think Trump's already on
to the next deal, which is this a thirty five
to Saudi Arabia. I think that's that's really what he's
focused on right now. He's not focused on that bringing
that actual stability into Gaza. Recognize saying that he had
the leverage to stop and get the hostages released, but

(01:43:03):
kind of turning it back over to the Israelis and
the rest of the world to try to figure out
the rest of it. He'll he'll likely come back at
some point when he recognizes that he can do something
and build something there, but he's already on to this
F thirty five deal with the Saudias. I think that,
you know, talking again some folks about that. I know
folks in the Pentagon have concerns about that, but I
think this is another classic Trump leverage play.

Speaker 18 (01:43:25):
You know, we're if you, if.

Speaker 20 (01:43:27):
You if we're giving you, if we're selling F thirty five,
So you're in that community, that's a that's a pretty
you know, such a far advanced technology. It's it's more
than just this you know, security framework. It's it's normalization
with Israel and who has them as well, and countering
irand stabilizing energy markets. I think the F thirty five
playbook that that you're going to be playing right now

(01:43:48):
is going to, you know, be the next Trump large
transaction that he's going to take a lot of credit for.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
You said the military, like some people of the Pentagon
have some Yeah, they're a little APPREHENDI why are they
at comprehensive Because again it's it's this is what we do.
I mean, we we this is how we make our
you know, everybody worries about well we're not we don't manufacture. Well,
the things we do produce, well, they're big ticket items.
But this is also a national security issue.

Speaker 20 (01:44:13):
No, it is, because the F thirty five is not
a jet. It's like an ecosystem. It's got you know,
sensor fuser network to described into it. It's got the
kind of software, the most advanced software. We're building AI
into the r ones. We can control some of the
things that we give to our allies with it, but

(01:44:35):
it's designed to be interoperable. So now the United States
will will be very much on the same page when
it comes to Saudi Arabia when it comes to missile
defense and air defense and air to air combat, because
they're on this system. So it's it's more than just
a bunch of jets. It's the whole it's the whole
ecosystem that goes with it, the information that it gathers,

(01:44:55):
and the intel that it collects and the like. And
this is why it's going to give the United States
a lot more visibility into the region. As all these
these thirty fives are all tied together.

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That was a rhyme, I know.

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The murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman and
the prosecution of OJ Simpson are part of American lore.
After what was called the Trial of the Century, Simpson
was acquitted of killing the two in nineteen ninety five.

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Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder,
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Speaker 27 (01:47:05):
Years later he was found liable for their deaths in
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While he was getting a pension and it was protected,
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Attorneys for O. J.

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saying in a statement the acceptance of the claim is
a positive acknowledgment of the debt, but noting it does
not constitute pay no.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
And it's not like he's got this brand name that
you could take and at least do something with where
you could have like some sort of brand deal because
of his name.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
It's not like you have any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
What you have is a memory of your son being
murdered by a guy who was famous, and out of
that you lost your son and you got what a
judgment against a broke trust. So accountability as much as

(01:48:36):
you can get from a broke trust. Three two, three, five,
three eight, twenty four, twenty three at Chad Benson Shows
your ex, your Insta, your YouTube, your Facebook, and.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
All the other things.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
We'll be live tonight right around seven o'clock Eastern as
we wrap up the day and give you all the
latest of what's going on, especially when it comes to Epstein.
So if you have a chance to join us night
right here on the Chad Benson Show, solid fun show today.
As always we like to have fun on that man.
We hit so many things and yes, getting a lot
of text messages about the coming battle in the world

(01:49:10):
of Maga that I think is going to be very
interesting to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
So this is going to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Be something coming that's going to be very interesting. When
you build a platform around a cult of a personality,
you need that cult of personality. You guys have a
bless and amazing and incredible rest of your Tuesday.

Speaker 14 (01:49:32):
I'm not really a fan of Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
You need to be quiet, Go get yourself some tacos.
We'll do it to get tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
As always, Night night Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):

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