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Ladies and gentlemen, Good afternoon,Welcome on the Costure News. My name
is David, so we run.I have the pleasure today on our heart
radio and many of the platforms towelcome the very talented writer and film director
mister Corey Reader. Corey Reader Readerexpell r w E d E R It
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has released a wonderful, wonderful newmovie called Smash or Past, a very
beautiful story that is making us withthe big headlines and several film festivals big
selections, award winner, finalist,and he's opening very soon at the Slamdance
Film Festival. Slamm Dance Film Festival. Right now over the phone, mister
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Corey Reader, Corey, how areyou today, David, good to be
on your show, man. Iam doing great. How are you,
man, I'm amazing. Thank youso much for being with us that I
appreciate that. So, first ofall, I would love to know what
brought used to being movies in thefirst place. You know, I think
I'm just of that generation that Igrew up on movies. I'm a gen
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xer. I grew up in frontof the television set, I grew up
going to the movies, and itjust was such a fantastic world that I
couldn't wait to be a part ofit and start making my own stories and
sharing them. And I've just tastedit forever. You know. It was
either going to be that or rockand roll, and I figured my life
expectancy would be a lot longer ifI went with films. That's a good
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one. That's a very good one. So so tell us about the experience
of thought full industry. Sure,yeah, I've been well, God man,
I've been working in the industry forover twenty years. I've run my
own company. I was used.I used to be based out of Orange
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County, California. That's where Igrew up. And then about fifteen years
ago, I made the movie toLa and realized that the industry is a
lot bigger in Los Angeles than itis just thirty miles down the road in
Fullerton, California. So I kindof had to start over, and in
doing so, I wound up makinga bunch of awesome rock music videos.
I got to work with bands likeCorn and System of a Down and Five
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Finger Death Punch and a lot ofreally great musical artists. And then as
I started to gnash my teeth alittle bit and wanted to get more into
narrative because that's where my that's wheremy heart, my passion has really at,
is being able to tell fun narrativestories. I started looking for screenplays.
I found one, I directed it, and along the way I wound
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up learning about disability inclusion, whichis this crazy thing that I fell into
nine years ago. And now allof the movies that I make in one
way or another involved people with disabilities. Well ful few, Yeah, that
you having me see, and andthat means I believe people deserve not only
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a chance, but also I believethere are stories very interesting to be done
when one of the character has somedisabilities. What do you think about that
that the story also be can beseen in a different way because actually the
person is the has a I wouldsay a handicapp if I mean use that
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word. Yeah, yeah, youknow, I mean. Here's Here's the
thing that I've come to understand overyou know, almost a decade of doing
this work, is that, youknow, we're all human, and for
the longest time, our society iskind of like put disability. It's it's
marginalized disability, and in doing so, we we rob ourselves within the media
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of film and television and hell,I don't know, radio, stories,
books, whatever. We rob ourselvesof being able to include these fantastic people
and characters because we're afraid to tackleor discuss us or showcase disability. And
their stories are are great, andthey're just as exciting or as boring as
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every single one of our normal lives. That's and that's what I love about
it. The problem that I seeand the problem with disability and media is
that is there's just not opportunities toshowcase it. So for example, my
film Smasher Pass, it's going tobe screening this year at the slam Dance
Film Festival at the Park City.And you know, it's a it's a
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short film. It's about app dating. I recently am divorced and I started
dating off the apps for the veryfirst time, and I thought it,
man, it was just it wascrazy, Like I met some crazy women
and I heard some terrible stories andall of this got my mind cooking,
and I'm like, I want towrite a story about this. But instead
of having it be a story aboutlike a dude like me going out and
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dating, I started to use allof these things I've learned from the past
of like, what if it's somebodywith a disability, What if it's a
woman with a disability, Because alot of the women I dated, they
had way worse stories than the guysI know that have to update. And
so I just made a fun storyabout dating updating that I think everybody can
relate to. I just happened tocast Josie Scott. She's my lead actress,
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and she's in a wheelchair, youknow, And that just adds this
extra level, this extra level toa story that everybody will already be into.
That they'll be able to laugh atthe awkwardness and at the cringing moments
and at the heartwarming moments. They'llbe able to feel all of that.
And it's not because she's in awheelchair. That's just an added and added
piece of the story, because that'swho Josie is. She's in a wheelchair.
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I authentically cast her. Is thatSo? Yeah? I think that
being able to include these stories likeyeah, man, it levels up the
art form and broadens the spectrum ofwhat we're used to seeing and TV and
film. I love what you're saying. It's really insiring and really thank you
for taking these chances and bringing thisbeautiful story. So what is next for
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you? And what do you wantreally to to show throughout this movie?
What is your goal in that movieof yours? Full smash or past?
And where, by the way,is the titles from. That's a great
question. There's a lot you knowsort of like you like I know,
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like you're you're a singer, you'rea filmmaker, you're an author. You
do a ton of stuff, andI'm kind of doing the same thing.
I wasn't kidding at the beginning ofour talk where where I said it was
either going to be rock and rollor filmmaking. I tried the rock and
roll thing didn't work out so well, so thank god I had filmmaking as
a backup that I've been doing now. But I'm super psyched to say I
just finished my first book and soI'm in the process of editing that and
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hopefully getting that into a publisher's handssoon. And I have a couple of
I have a previous film that Imade called Best Friend. That two was
a short film. I've developed thatinto a feature. It's a high school
comedy sort of like John Hughes.But the lead actress or the lead character
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has Down syndrome, and so imaginelike the Breakfast Club are pretty in pink,
but with a young girl that hasDown syndrome and like her special ed
class and like sort of the funcraziness. I have that, and then
I have another foehander. It's justfour people trapped in a base to church
basement during a crazy storm. Andthe lead character is my friend, well
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currently it's cast as my friend KurtYeger, who's he's a below the knee
ampty tee and he plays a warvet. And so I'm looking to get
that into production this year. Andyeah, as for the film and what
I would love for this, youknow, I'm excited to be taking it
up to Park City. I mean, what is great about the end of
January in Park City is you havethis this like two rivers merging. You
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have the well established sun Dance filmfestival, you know, started by Redford.
All the celebrities and all the peopleknow about that. And then you
have this punk rock offshoot called slamDance, which is where my film is
screening. And it's really truly independentfilms, like people that are making these
things on shoestring budgets. Sometimes youmight see a star in a movie,
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but a lot of times you won't, and they'll just still be super engaging
as entertaining. And so for meto be able to bring my film there
and showcase Smash or Pass as partof the Unstoppable program at slam Dance,
it's an opportunity to hopefully expose morepeople that you can watch movies, You
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can include people with disabilities in moviesand not be afraid of it. You
can laugh when they laugh. Imean, like, my movie is a
cringe comedy and at no point doI punch down or make fun of disability.
It's just the situations. Man.I don't know about you, David,
but like, if you've ever doneany apupdating, it's weird, man,
it is super weird. And Ithink we all have these stories and
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I just took them minute to like, you know, squish them all together
and make this fun, quirky,weird movie. And uh, and so
I hope that that will draw peoplein, give them something to laugh at,
give them something to enjoy, youknow, get out of the cold
of the of the of Park Cityand and go back out warm and fuzzy
inside after watching something good and entertaining. Wow, that's really beautiful. And
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thank you for all the kind wordsyou you said, and and really I
also want to say that for thepeople who we have the privilege to watch
a movie, that it's not uhjust uh you know, you're not asking
for pity toward the people who havea disability. No, it's it's a
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spot of story. It's it's abeautiful story, is a before and everything.
It's a great movie. It's abeautiful piece of sheelingmaking. And that's
the number one that that people needto know. And I encourage really all
you know, all the journalists outthere to really talk about that movie because
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very often people always believe okay,but we got to have a movie like
that instead of talking about the factthat you need people with disability movies.
You know, when you have ithappening, this is the kind of movies
that we need, uh to toto support and and and to bring out
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a really big shout out to justto scout your league actress with absolutely wonderful
and I read about her story andyou know she got this from a from
an accident, you know, andit's also a reminder that no one is
necessarily born with it. It canhappen to you, It can happen to
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me, It can happen to anybody. You know. You can cross the
street, get hit by a car. God forbid, anything can happen to
you. So here's the thing aboutdisability. Oh that's all good, man,
that's all good. Here's the thingabout disability is that if we all
live long enough, we will allexperience it. It is the marginalized group
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that we will all be a partof. Just think about it. Like,
I don't know about you, likeif your parents are getting old or
or you know, if you canthink back to you know, your grandparents
or whatever. But we will eventuallylose our hearing, lose our eyesight,
our mobility will slow down. Allof these things will happen to us,
you know. And I know thisis America. I know that we like
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to be like young and youthful andexuberant. I get it. But like
this community of people with disabilities,like the people that already have disabilities,
they're looking at able bodied people andsay, man, it's coming for you.
So to ignore it. Check thisout, man, Twenty five percent
of the world of the whole worldidentifies as having some form of disability,
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but less than four percent are representedin film and television. So that's like,
that's crazy, and like I'm notmaking these movies to say, like,
look, every character, every show, every play, every song needs
to reflect disability. You know,of course, not like let's but let's
at least try to get the statisticsup to a little bit more to like
where the reality is. Because you'reright, man, it's not about making
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people feel sorry. There's a termfor that. If you try to make
people feel sorry for you and youhave a disability, that's like that's it's
called inspiration porn. And I don'tlike to do that, you know.
I don't like to use people withdisabilities to like try and make able bodied
people feel better about themselves. LikeI try to just make a good movie.
It doesn't matter. Like my movie, like Smasher Paths, could be
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all able bodied people in it,and I think people would still laugh and
still think it's a fun movie.But the only difference is I just took
that lead character and she's in awheelchair, you know, Josie, As
you said, her family was ina plane crash and she wound up having
a spinal injury, and thank godshe's alive because the world given us this
awesome actress. It's in a wheelchair, and and my story is just as
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good with with with an actor ina wheelchair or if it would be able
bodied. So you're right, man, this is about this whole thing.
To me, man, is aboutlike elevating. Let's let's make the tide
that rises all the ships. Brother. Yeah, no, no, but
to you, you you name itabsolutely well. You know, I watched
the movie Barbie tense to to watchit and there is that then number and
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the boots a woman in a wheelchairas part of the choreography, and I
was like, that is the mostbeautiful thing I've seen, you know.
And I don't know why I saidthat, but I you don't want it
to sway it out, so youknow, but you clocked it. You
clocked it. And yeah, that'sa little movement forward, man, and
that's great, And thank god GretorGurwood did that, because it's just like
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that's all we need is like littlesteps forward and then and then and it's
great man. Yeah, and definitelyyour movie definitely worth watch it. I
hope you go. You bring itsoon to v O D and things like
that once you finish the sin festivalcircuits so that everybody can can can watch
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it. There are a lot offilm festivals who put an emphasis on the
ability and all of that, andI really hope that all of them will
screen your movie. People can findout more about you on your website core
eReader dot com, coren C OR y R E E D E R
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reader dot com. And the nameof the movie is called Smash or Pass.
It's really beautiful movie. I alsosaw in it, so maybe I'm
throwing some some IDs out there.I saw in it a musical. You
know, is that because you're asinger? Yeah, and I and yeah
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and I and I and I domusicals also, But I'm saw in it
a great musical, and I think, you know, that's also one thing
after that movie that you know,I think also that would also hopefully happens
for you because the story is universal. Yeah, it's thought of our time
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and and it says it all slideField, you're happy, smash up Pass,
and we all connect to it.And it's a beautiful story, a
beautiful story and a beautiful story.So congratulations, Thanks, Before we say
it quickly, Yeah, really quickly. To your point, if people are
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going to be in Park City forslam Dance or sun Dance, you can
see my film Friday, January nineteenthat eight forty five at the slam Dance
headquarters, it's Screaming screening at theYarrow. And then on Monday, January
twenty second, at six thirty it'sscreening at the University of Utah and the
Student Union Theater. And I thinkthat screening is free, and you said
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VOD screenings. Slam Dance is stilldoing an online component to their film festival,
so people can sign up and watchall of the movies from slam Dance
online. If you go to slamdance dot com, you can find out
tickets and all that sort of information. Man. So I'm really grateful for
you giving me the opportunity to beable to like share the message about this
film. And brother, you're givingme the opportunity to to allow me to
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talk about your movie, which Ihave done anyway, Having you is is
really really a treat and and Ithink people tend to forget that, maybe
because I'm a director that I'm verysensitive even that is I think people I
think being a director is the mostthankless job in the world, while people
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have no idea what director are goingthrough to make the movie happen, you
know, and not just at theend of the movie, but pushing it
out everywhere in stink festivals, promotingit, giving business cards, trying to
say hey can I can you watchmy movie? Et cetera. So every
time a filmmaker you know, hasa great movie like yours, I'm always
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the first one to to to promoteit. Of course, Barbie help.
I mean, that's that's really especiallya great story and a good quality film,
so we I'm always there. Soreally thank you to you, Corey,
for for your courage, for yourdetermination as a director and as a
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filmmaker. And and and remember whatI told you the musical, I think
you have something with it because inyour lines, in your in your scenario
and all of that, I hearmusic, you know. Also, But
that's because it's really well done,really well written, really well directed,
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really well acted. Did it's reallya beautiful, beautiful, beautiful film.
So congratulations Corey. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is David so who I
had the pleasure to acted on iHeartRadio the very talented writer and director mister
Corey Reader, who presented to ustoday his beautiful new film called Smash or
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Pass Smash or Past. As hesaid, the film will be screened at
Slam Dance Samp Festival. We sayhello to our dear friend Amy Printer Yani,
thank you for everything, and rightnow more music to photow up on
iHeartRadio. It's a beautiful weekend inNew York City. Statune for more