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Speaker 2 (00:57):
And how was everybody doing out in k l r N.
And it is Thursday night, which means it's your early
introduction to the weekend. This is the culture shift. How's
everybody doing? On Brad Slagger? We're getting ready to reveal
and expose all of the vital things taking place in Hollywood,
the entertainment sphere and such. So as we walk down
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the Hollywood Walk of Fame, not doing it by myself
because walking stride, my stride with me is America's most
digitized and laser focused Amish individual. It's already packard. How's
it going already? You know?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I just got side by side from Hudson Hawk that
scene in my head. I'm not sure if I'm Danny
Aella or Bruce Willis in that, but uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You're fond of that fiasco, I know that much.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's a fantastic movie and I will not let you, Sully.
It's a good reputation like that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
By the way, tune in next week as we silly
the reputation. We won't do that too.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
How is the left coast treating you? Okay? Is everything
going all right in your neck of the woods which
is north of Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, No, everything is beautiful out here, you know, seventy
two sunny. Next weather forecast will be in five days.
I a stoure. We do have some weather coming in,
but for right now, it's fucking beautiful. How about everything
out in America's wang? How you doing? Did you get
the aurora down there?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
No? No, no, it didn't reach our our area, of course,
But I just had to rely on the rest of
the family and other people across the country sending me
pictures of what they were enjoying. So alas, we had
to go with the usual blue skies and clouds and
everything else and clear skies at night. Had a bit
of a cold snap this week. We actually hit the
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forties once. Ooh yeah, So it was kind of funny
go outside on two Tuesday morning and seeing a collection
of the little lizards all splayed out across the sidewalk
because they were in their winter torpor. He just couldn't
handle forty eight degrees.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
When it's raining iguanas.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, I didn't quite go to the iguana farm for that,
but yeah, that I've experienced that before too. There been
times there used to be a park on my route
I would go to and I think one day I
saw about two dozens sitting on the ground just going like.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
H for you guys out there. I imagine that's a
lot like the swallows returning to Capstrano.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh yeah, okay, I'll go with that. Not quite gonna
be a Hallmark movie moment or anything of the sort,
but yeah, that's a couple of times a year. We
always like to do that. I take the grand kid
out and we'll get the flashlights and see if we
can find any plummeting and have fun with them. But
that's been hard.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
When Hallmark Channel runs low on material and they find
a place in Vancouver that looks like Florida, I guarantee
you it will be the subject of a Christmas movie.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, you know, on that note, they're actually this holiday
season going to be releasing the Hallmark Christmas movie featuring
the Buffalo Bills. They have an NFL themed movie.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I go back to The X Men when Cancerman says,
as long as I'm alive, the Buffalo Bills will never
win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Could be the case, could be the case. It was
rather amusing, well not amusing, but I was detached from
the Mayhem Sunday because my entire brood, that is Buffalo
Bill fans went to the game live here in Miami
and promptly died on a roasting spit because before the
cold snappy was a prompt eighty seven degrees here and
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it wasn't sufferable enough and had to have about a
twenty minute rainstorm at halftime, So just let's just cook
the parking lot and produce a lot of steam on
top of all of this heat with no breeze, and
there you go. And frankly, the Bills suffered as well.
They got their ass handed to them by one of
the worst teams in the league, Miami.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well thank god for that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It was amazing. It was amazing. I'm in the bar
drinking in comfort and we're all in disbelief. At the
same time, We're like, how was this happening? What the
hell it was? Just amusing. Well, we've got kind of
a mixed bag. I'm going to speaking of Hallmark movies.
How about this for a segue? We've that, Yeah, you know,
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in this time of cheer and family love and just
you know, sharing heartwarming moments among the holidays, I came
across this commercials today. I want to play for everybody
just so we can. I don't know if it's so
much an entry into the season but an entry into
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our future. I'm gonna say that I'm gonna play just
to give you an intro. It's gonna start out with
a woman in her kitchen, she's noticeably pregnant, and she's
talking on the phone with her mother. That's all you
really need to know. As far as visuals go, We're
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gonna play the clips reject a the time.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm getting shades a mob bell all over this already.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, if you recall was in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think, yes, reach out and touch someone.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They had a family and they were looking at the
matron of the family, who is you know, tears coming
down and they're like, what's the matter. It's like timmy
cold and they're like, oh my gosh, it's everything Okay,
and she's sobbing. He just cold to say I love
you and then reach out, reach out and touch someone. Yeah,
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it's a vain I'm going to present this. Go with
it for now, and then we'll explain to you the
difference in all of this.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
He's getting bigger, see, oh wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Kicking like crazy, he's listening.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Put your hand on your chummy and hum to him.
You're used to out of there.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Feels like it's dancing in there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, now, next thing, title card comes up and says,
ten months old.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Would you tell Charlie that bedtime story you always used
to tell me?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Once upon a time there was a baby unicorn who
didn't know he knew how to fly. This baby unicorn
was like her mom because she didn't know that she
knew how to fly, but she know how to do
all kinds of fabulous things.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I hate all right, and now it's the sing young boy,
but at the much more hail age of ten years
old Charlie. I went to school today. It was really fun.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I mean this crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't really care that much about basketball? What about
the crush?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Stop? Stop?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Just tell me one And now it's the same fun
decades later, at thirty years old, so it's gonna be
a great grandmother.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh Charley, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
She says that he's been kicking a lot though, like
well too much.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Tell her to put her hand on her tommy and
hummed him.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You loved that. You'd have loved this moment.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You can call anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And uh as everybody's getting weepy, it now says before Charlie,
and we see the same woman at the start who's
now using her camera phone for her mother. Okay, Mom,
I just need a quick video because it's like an
audition or something, you know, Mom, just three minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You need my best side. I can play the piano.
I am, I'm absolutely I'm your mother. After starts telling
us a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
All right, and you kind of get the impression they're
very big, happy family, and they say two, why three
minutes can last forever?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'll have therapy.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Did you did you get choked up about that? Did
that affect you at all? As far as uh, you know,
emotions and.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Feelings, shades of shades of packed bell, shades of mind commercials.
I just felt totally enthralled with the whole, loving nature
of this family, especially with thirty year old David and
his phone that doesn't exist yet, and grandmother looking exactly
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the same through all of them.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Ooh, a little bit of a spoiler alert there, because
here's the explanation now for for everybody to just listened
to these, you know, heartwarming moments shared with the mother
and grandmother on the phone. The entirety of that commercial
save for the last segment. Grandma's dead.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yes, she was fairly moribund when being filmed by the daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
If you if you heard that last segment where you know,
and she saying I get turned to the side and
I could play the piano and such, and the daughter
is filming her. This would be the daughter filming Mom
ahead of her dying, because this company will use that
video information to then formulate an AI version of your
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ex your pass away relative, so that you can then
interact with them in the afterlife. You can then share
your memories, your pregnancy, your baby's birth, the bedtime stories,
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and the grandchild then having his own son later in life,
and you can share all of that with a fucking robot.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah. As I said, it reminds me of Lily from
at and t Oh, that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
This is literally like when the ten year old is
walking down the sidewalk and such and he's like hi,
He's like having a fully animated conversation with the grandmother
he's never met. He's known her his entire life as
a phone robot. And when he's thirty years old and
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showing the computer program the images of the baby in
the womb, he's getting misty eyed and tearing up as
he does this with a robot.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now, this is all based off of a three minute
video that you provide for the person who you want
to reanimate non corporeally. So everything about it, everything about it,
because it's like, you know, in the end you cut
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it off before the end clip was like, well, tell
me a little something about your life and the grandma,
you know, and the mom jokingly says, well, I was
born as a small child, and which you know I
did get I did chuckle with that. So everything that
is happening through the we'll say multiple generations of the
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family enjoying this is one LLM hallucination. I mean, yes, Vincent,
it reminds me of the AI lawyer in Tech War two.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm just I'm trying to wrap my head because again
this is me being cursed with pragmatism. You're putting this
much effort to share your lifetime and memories with a robot.
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This is a computer program. This is not your mother.
Your mother is not seeing the birth of your child.
Your mother is not experiencing the life forces as they
grow and mature and become a personality and such. And
thirty years down the damn road, the sun is sharing
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his baby memories with his deceased grandmother who he's never met.
That is abjectly unhealthy behavior right there. I'm sorry, what
is going on here?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I mean, given my experience, my extensive experience with llms, yes,
this is extraordinarily unhealthy. This is what was that crap
movie with DiCaprio in it where he fell in love
with the AI?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh no it was Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
J Yes, they're kind of in her. Yeah, they're kind
of interchangeable to me, but at this point, just one
of them.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Has Although if it was Leonardo DiCaprio, he would break
up with the AI program after twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah and find a newer one. Oh this was and
a half years old. I need a newer.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Are we breaking up? No? No, no, I'm just I'm canceling
the account. You're breaking up with me, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I'm gonna go try I'm gonna go try GPT for
a while.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm sorry. It's it's not you, it's Grock. It's
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Back when Grock seven comes out because five point five
just isn't cutting it for me. You're getting a little
too long in the tooth there.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I can't. I mean, I've watched this commercial twice and
the first time it's like, Okay, I get the thrust
of this. They want to, you know, you want to
maintain some kind of connection with your pet. I get it.
But the second time I'm watching it, I'm paying attention
to the people, not the program, and they are completely
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absorbed in this. They are on board. I'm sorry, you
need therapy.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Here's where all right, this is creepy. Now, where I
could see this being used well, would be like the
people who have the genealogy bug, who have and who
have very detailed records of their family history, and there's
a lot of family notes and letters and everything like that,
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and you could feed all of that in to use
to teach a oral history using pictures and everything else
to use to teach an oral history to future generations
that I would be okay with. This is LARPing a
live person in me completely hallucinated phase.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's like family cosplay something. I don't know how to
wrap my head around this, because when they jump to
the kid being thirty years old, I'm thinking, Holy crap,
this this is a damaged soul we're dealing with here,
because right how Amma passed away? He was still in
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the womb when Grandma passed. Okay, I mean the AI program.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
H s all right, I think I'm back.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I have read. Yeah, freaking discord just took over my computer.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
That was odd. Uh everything went silent, so yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like lost the screen for a second. The Discord was
on screen, of what the hell is this all about?
And I couldn't get it to close.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Hey, I caven, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I made fun of the wrong program apparently.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, shouldn't have done that. I thought I was a
general outage or I would have amped. That's why I
went silent.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Mmmm ah, No, that was on my end. That was
just Bizarre's health.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, but hey, we're back, let's recoup.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay. When did I go dark?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah? We were ACTU I think we covered that one death.
It's just creepy fuck got it?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, that's just I mean I can see some value
for it, but not in the way it's being presented.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah. I think if you're actually attaching not just family memories,
but an entire lifetime to an AI program, damn, you
got some uh, you got some issues. I'm just going
to say it, full disclosure. I'm not a mental health professional,
might any stretch, and yet at the same time I
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could recognize this ain't good.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
What do you mean you know? It's like that? All
saying is I I you know, I I don't know
what the definition of obscenity is, but I know it
when I see it. I don't know what the definition
of insanity is, but I know when I see it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You spend three decades talking to the grandma you've never met,
and you're weeping because of this connection you have with
the robot. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
How are you so detached from reality that you don't
realize that it's all fabricated? I mean, are you supposed
to just lie to future generations and say, oh, no,
her whole personality and everything about her we did hours
of video. Yeah. No, he did a three minute clip.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, that's the thing. Three You submit to just their
facial reconstruction for three minutes, and somehow they're going to
replicate her personality and that's going to sustain you for decades. Yeah,
what are you doing? Holy help? But this is this
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is the slow pour down. Now we've gone down this slope.
It's we're there, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
You know, one of the things we had a hard
time doing with the show tonight is that almost everything
in the industry is AI related. Now. You know, it's
like back during the strike, when every story was about
the strike and how strike you know, relates to everything,
and you know, and occasionally, but yeah, everything is how
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you know, I mean, we talked about during the strike,
how AI was supposed to be verboten, how it was
completely white. You know, this is the hard line, studios
can't use AI, and all the studios went okay. And
now every article I could find today was about AI
and the embracing of the AI and how happy the
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studios were by it. And the actors are still going
but but but except for some of them.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
It was their third rail bargaining point in that entire strike,
Like they were working on things like medical coverage and
getting a better piece of the royalties and this and that.
And they were able to hammer that out because lawyers
mm hmm, but ai that was there that stalled negotiations
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for a good month or so. Stretched this whole thing out,
became the big point that actors and writers would not abide.
You've got to put productions in. You gotta block this.
It's unacceptable. We can't work, sure, said the studios, no problem,
and bullshit said already and Brad, the studios are going
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to embrace this, And they did so even faster than
we anticipated.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I gotta say. I mean, it wasn't even three episodes before,
you know, and doing this every other week. It was
three episodes before we started going, oh look MGMs Disney
plus blah blah blah blah blah. And it's just relentless now.
And I know we didn't cover it for this show.
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We didn't bring it up here. And I did see
the other day that McConaughey and somebody else.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Who was that you were breaking up a bit.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It was McConaughey and somebody else. I'm drawing a blank
on uh.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They yeah, they're just all they're all in on this now,
you know. And this commercial, just to go back to
it quickly reminds me of something that took place about
what two months ago. Jim Acosta, the one time journalist
who's been kicked out of CNN. Yeah, he conducted an
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interview with one of the students from the Parkland shooting,
one of the students who died at the Parkland High
School shooting.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Using a similar kind of program where the kids on
screen and there's Jim Acosta asking him direct questions about
gun control and other things, and there is the image
of this slain student. It was. It was unsettling, It
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was journalistically corrupt. It is everything you expect from Jim Acosta.
Don't get me wrong, but yeah, yeah, how the hell
do you present that as a news item?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Your diary? Today? I interviewed a ghost.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Crack out the weedy board, Jim, I'd take that over this.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And you know, even we dove into the the psychological
repercussions or the family too, because if they're on board
with it, they're just not letting it go. They're not
moving on. And now it's like, so do they delete
this program and lose their son again or do they
keep it holding on to something that isn't real.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's it's just I don't it's so damn disturbing to
see this and the way that people just oh, yeah,
this is great. No it's not. Sorry, you're allowed to
say this is aft up And yeah we said this
about Hollywood pretty much from Jump Street. Like after they
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resolved the strike, we both of us on here, like
adamantly said, oh, they're going to get into AI, but quick,
you know, these performers are going to get steamrolled. I
thought six months to a year, I didn't think. I
think they've resolved things in like August or so, when
pretty much by Christmas of that year, AI was leaching
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its way into the studio.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I think I even predicted that this is probably one
of the last actor strikes there ever is because after
a while, who will need them anymore?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, oh you don't want to work, Well we got
some nobody who can't. Well, not somebody, but technically yeah.
I think within a matter of months they had was
it the was it the Roadhouse sequel or reboot or
they were They did pick up scenes and they had
to go AI with it, and then another movie they
were doing post production audio work with AI because they
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couldn't get the actor into redubbed lines and just you
know again it's we called it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, the upside for the industry not so much for
the actors, but the upside for the industry is that
reshoots are gonna cost next to nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Now, yeah, precisely that. And one of the big ones
has now come out with a curious announcement. Curious in
that it basically defies everything that they prompts they wouldn't do.
Walt Disney on their streaming platform has just announced they
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are going to take AI submissions from subscribers for content.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, through their AI, which it sounds like, you know,
they're they're they're gonna be a pro either you know,
they're gonna encroach on open ais Sora territory or you know,
maybe just use Sora too, But they are going to
allow licensing through their own branded AI where users can
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submit they're frozen content, they're Marvel characters content, they're you
know whatever. To Disney Plus and tell me that you're
not admitting that you have an absolute glut of writers
who can't come up with dick in your house.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
As when you're doing that, I'm I don't have any
evidence to support my theory here, but I'm gonna blame
this on the Acolyte because they dropped two hundred and
fifty million on that aborted Star Wars attempt, and they
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basically looked themselves in the mirror and said, if we
can get people to do this for free, it'll suck less, right.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I mean, and think of how much money Amazon could
have saved with Rangs of Power. Yeah, Jeff's beck.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Honestly, what I think is taking place here is that
Disney has realized what is on the horizon, and they've
already been battling with other you know, AI components out
there that were using their intellectual property as a basis,
and so I think Disney is saying, well, we can't
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keep the whorees out of church, so we may as
well just become pimps ourselves. And now they are using
their own AI in an effort to maybe control the content.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Right, And you know, you know, you can't let me
little and Stitch get into the wrong hand. So what's
the best way to do that? You know, give the
fans the tools and let them make what they want,
and then you just, you know, if it's good. It
perflates up, and it's kind of something I wish Paramount
had learned long ago with instead of coming up with
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the whole abortion of everything that has been Kurtzman Star Trek,
if they went with, you know, prelude to Axinar and
other fan creations that are on YouTube that were crowdsourced
and very good. You know, this is that step, you know,
right into that we can't fight it, so let's let's
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market it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Here's the irony. This is the same studio that used
to rage and call the lawyers anytime fan produced content
would come out.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
There was a lawsuit not long ago in the span
of us doing the show, so at least right before
COVID of the House of Mouse suing a family because
they had Pluto at a birthday party.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I mean, yeah, they were this attached to their intellectual properties.
Nobody can touch it, nobody can use it, nobody can
interpret it. Don't you dare make something without our approval, because,
oh God forbid, the people that actually loved the product
put out a quality product. Apparently it was the notionality there.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
You know what this means, We are going we are
going to get an absolutely fantastic sequel or prequel to
The black Hole.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Fifty years in the making. But finally, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I'm sure there's a lot of you know, treatments out
there and somebody's attic, you know in the steamer trunk
that somebody wrote decades ago, that you know, when Disney
decided it wanted to be embarrassed about the black Hole
rather than embrace it for what it was, are going
to get dusted off and AI generated, and I'm here
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for it. Quite frankly, Disney can't do it themselves. We've
seen that.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, I'm literally amazed at where we at already.
The already part is what's amazing. I knew we were
going to get here, but hell, I figured maybe a
couple of years. They are on the throttle now. It
is kind of amazing that they went from God, no,
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it would never happen to this. I mean, they're using
it for voiceover, they're using it in commercials, they're using
it in, like we said, pickup scenes on movies and
other fixes in the industry, and they're not stopping. So, yeah,
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we're here, And I hesitate to put a timeframe on it,
but what a year, maybe year and a half Hollywood's
going to be a completely different animal.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, I think that's fair, and let's mark it on
the calendar before Okay, let's say, like this summer movie
season twenty twenty seven, we'll have our first full AI
movie as a summer talkbuster.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'll tell you interrupt real quick. I don't know if
you guys saw the tweet or not, but Elon is
predicting Grock Video to be able to do thirty minute
sitcoms within three months.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, I mean we.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Have reached We've kind of shit Canda mors law since
the early two thousands when it came to computers hardware.
I think we can start doing it with AI now.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I mean I'm laughing right now basically, so I don't cry,
because I mean, as much as we tear into entertainment
and complain about the craven nature of so much of it,
it's still human. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, no, totally, because they never will cross the uncanny valley.
Well that, but then we have upload your grandma for
a lifetime of family love.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, it was like today I came across his AI
video somebody made and it's stupid as hell, but it
cracked me up. It's just this cat shows up on
somebody's patio in the middle of the night and starts
playing the most obnoxious instruments, and the wife or mother,
whoever it is, comes barging out the door, and every
time does oh my god, it's midnight. Stop playing this,
(38:28):
and you know, rips the instrument out of the cat's
hands for a shotgun. Oh yeah, I saw that one too. Yeah,
this one just it just got progressively funnier because it
went from you know, playing a clarinet and playing a keyboard,
and then drums and then bagpipes and then you know.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
And.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I'm thinking, shit, am I laughing at a robot? No,
somebody programmed it to say this and do this. It
was just the computer just gave us the visuals. I'm
I don't know that a computer can actually write humor.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
No, I mean, I've got my GPT pretty well following
my tone, but still it's obviously not.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah. I mean that's basically using language touch points, cadence
and you know word usage as such. Humor is something
you need to develop, something you need to experience outside
of life, you know, bring it in. I don't know
that a computer has that capability.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
I'd argue half the humans in the world don't have
that ability.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
That's a fair assessment too, because yeah, I mean, when's
the last time we saw a good sitcom that didn't
have Kim Allen in it some way?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I mean, just look how humorless most of the
people on the left have become over the last ten years,
and they're the ones primarily programming this stuff.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
So I'm taking a step in again. Orty and I
have both been in the IT industry for way too
long than I think I care to admit. The number
of IT people who absolutely lack a sense of humor
are the ones rating this stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I can see that. I mean, I totally believe that.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It's not all the IT crowds, but this.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Is where we're getting rock from and all the other
things that are you know, we're people now, it's just
by default.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Any longer can remember the Queen days when we were
all mad about a Super Bowl commercial that had Freda
stareing it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That was the that was the start of it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That was Yeah, that really was I mean, hey, groundbreaking,
but also fuck.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I mean wasn't it? Was it about a decade or
so ago where they had the hologram of Tupac on
stage performing. Yeah, and I think more people were outraged
by that than embraced it, and that was the proper reaction.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Not enough people are outraged these days.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
We are a doomed society.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I mean this is I mean, everything we.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Do in this everything we do on this podcast reflex that.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
So it's we should probably even rename the podcast. How
can you not see this coming? You know, it's just
what we do all the time, like point out the obvious.
It's like, you see where this is going, right, and
then three weeks later it goes there.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, That's what my favorite things of the show is
when you know, we point out the obvious and then
pat ourselves on the back of our prescience when it
goes exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
And it's yeah, to the point now where I'm not
even thinking we're brilliant so much as it is everybody
else is just stupid. But that's where we're at. I'm see.
I don't know, it's like four or five months ago,
you know, AI, maybe a little bit earlier, it was like,
(42:32):
oh man, somewhere down the road, this is going to
take a turn off. Somewhere down the road, this is
going to be. We're getting there so fast. In my
mind now is how the hell are we going to
adapt to this for the sake of survival? Because of
the speed at which we're doing.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
This, I think, you know how we always kind of
just gloss over when we're read when we're doing the
trades looking for content for the show, Signings with agents
because it's really irrelevant and who the fuck cares? I
think I'm covering signing with Ai so too, that's gonna
(43:14):
be good for.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Their first.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
That's actually going to be. Yeah, there's a new movie
on the horizon and Chet, GPT and Sorrow are in
a bidding war to see who's gonna get cast in
the lead role. Yeah, basically, yeah, Yeah, it is, it is.
(43:38):
I'm just amazed, I guess at the whole thing, at
the speed of it, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, it was kind of like a Lady Jess macbeth
said the other day, anyone else getting tired of living
in this Biffs Stolen Sports Almanac universe?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm I'm yeah. It's how we deal with it, that's
gonna be the question how do we maintain humanity anymore?
But that's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Hell. Yeah, embrace nihilism.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Brad, I'm gonna have to. I think I'm just out
of survival. So do you have any other AI news.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Because no, you know what, I skipped a lot of
it because I just didn't want this to be all AI.
But since we're talking about oppressiance, we can talk about
F One that'll do.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes. Yeah, we brought this up a while backward, the
movie F One That would be the racing circuit out
of Europe, the big one there, the movie based on that,
starring Brad Pitt. I was gonna call it a moderate hit,
but it turned out overseas did really well, and as
(44:56):
a result, talked about how there were all these ancillary
rollover benefits for the circuit. The circuit itself was already successful.
It's not like the movie put them on the map.
But they're like, holy crap, this is even better than
we thought. They figured free advertising, but no, it's been
(45:17):
like a boom for their industry. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
The number of F one fans, Uh, The age of
thirty five and over has tripled since then.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's the part that I find surprising. Yeah, because you
would have thought maybe it would have been.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
That's what important entry on it yeah, I would have
thought it was yet, but you know what I mean,
a lot of that age group, you know, it's like
at fifty, I still remember the golden age of F
one with Nigel Mansel and Air and Senna and the like.
So you know a lot of early millennials were in
that time frame two, so a lot of them could
(45:59):
be hitting this solgia while introducing you know, because I
mean it was a lot bigger in the USNN than
it is today. It would actually be on the deuce
if not ESPN.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
And they you know that, I mean from just here Stateside,
TV contracts and everything have gone away up. That's been
very beneficial, they say. On the circuit itself, it's been
a monstrous success. Which that's the part that's the prib.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, I mean this is spotting a Netflix docuseries and
everything else too, not just with the fan reaction to it,
but the rebirth of you know, F one racing itself. Yeah,
even as in Martin's marketing branches, you know, they're reaching
out to do collabse with everybody.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Now, yeah, that's been one. It has been taking place
to a degree, and that is where you know, Hollywood
and others would reach out and try to get sponsorship
on one of the cars on a specific race, maybe
right ahead of a movie release, because that would then
appeal to the European audience. That's getting even bigger now.
(47:19):
It's like being developed. It's it's one where they need
to be in bed with the teams as opposed to
slapping a couple of stickers on the outside of the
car for a weekend. They're actually partners now.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Well yeah, and they're teaming up with Toy Story there, Yeah,
Toy Story and you know, doing uh Asta Martin helmets, hoodies,
many buzz light years. You know, it's just getting insane
with you know, the marketing. I mean, they're reaching for
ship that hasn't been relevant in decades, but everybody's you know,
(47:55):
digging into it again.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Well, that's the thing is, it's probably because it's such
an established circuit that the older product becomes more entrenched
as a result. Now they're saying that's it's like, oh,
if F one is doing it, then it's really serious
as opposed to just like some kind of one off,
one hit promo. And just the scope of it, I
(48:23):
think is what really gets me that they're getting this
deep into the partnership side, and so it's not you know,
Toy Story six will be on the car this weekend.
It's Disney is now part of this. Yeah, and so
you're gonna see multiple things. And it's cross marketing too.
Now Disney will be producing F one related products as well.
(48:47):
And I don't know that anybody saw this coming to
this degree.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
No, I you know, I always thought that F one
had you know, the Formula one had seen as Heyday
and it was just gonna be you know, while it'll
have you know, it's placed in sports bars in America,
will largely and you know, when it occasionally comes to
America with a few races here, it'll largely be a
European thing, you know, because they tried to tap into
(49:12):
it in Iron Man two and everybody's, yeah, that's cool,
but that's very eurocentric.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Well that's the other thing though. I believe it is
because they've reached into America like they have, Like did
they put on a race here in Miami, also in
Vegas and in Austin Texas where it used to be
every single country had its own dedicated race, you know,
the Grand Prix of Canada.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Though, But now yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Don't even know how they title the various races here
in the States because they've got three. So it's not
the Grand Prix of Mexico, it's not the Grand Prix
of the US. It's like the Miami Grand Prix, the
Texas Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
All right, Yeah, I remember playing the You the f
One game is back in the nineties, you know, on
saying and ship you'd have like Indy would open as
an option, but almost all the tracks were uk mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah. Different animal than our own Indy Cars to a degree.
But the very fact that they're coming into the States
like this has to be regarded as a threat to
Indy Cars and to see this level of success, maybe
the US Open Wheel Circuit kind of missed an opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I think that they did. I mean, you know, they
tried to touch. Yeah, they they made an.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Attempt, because I don't I'm trying to think, like, who
comes out of the IndyCars circuit that's a big name.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Right, I can't think of a name since Stanica Patrick.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah she did yeah, and she was hot. I get it.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
She was hot and did the go Daddy commercials and yeah,
So I mean, prove us wrong chat. Throw a name,
any name without googling, I'm sure somebody.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, well I've got to speaking of Europe, how about
that for a SEGUEE can we can jump on into
one that I've been uniquely covering this past week, and
that is the British broadcasting company going through some severe
(51:44):
turmoil right now. Damn. And of course this only becomes
better because even though it's a British media company, America's
foremost media mogul, CNN's Brian Stelter has been all over
(52:04):
this thing. I'm cracking up at this. His his involvement
with this story has meet to the point of wondering
if he's not an investor somehow.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
He is strangely laser focused on this, more so than
with the CBS lawsuits, more so with his own CNN lawsuits.
He is on.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
This like, well, I can tell you definite.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Son, cake, I don't know I came up.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I can't come up with an analogy regarding the.
Speaker 6 (52:40):
Guys watching South Korean camping.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yes, there we go.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
But Stelter didn't want to even touch the CNN lawsuit.
You would think a guy whose entire career is based
on covering the media, the biggest media story in his
own house. Nope. I think when they got sued for
defamation and found libel in court, CNN put out a
(53:08):
solitary digital article on it that maybe ran about five
hundred words, very perfunctory. It's just settled out of court.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
And that was it, very lawyer esque.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
And I think he mentioned it in his newsletter. Here's
our article on that event. And that was it. But
what happened is this that we're talking about, is it's
it's actually concerning a documentary that BBC put out a
year ago, and it was all about Donald Trump. Came
(53:46):
out three or four days before the election itself, and
all about his second term and what could happen and
of course doom and gloom. Well, in the course of
this documentary, they were replaying his speech that he gave
on January sixth in DC that morning, and people began noticing, hey,
(54:10):
wait a second, I don't remember him saying that or
quite in that fashion. And pretty much it was Donald
Trump saying, listen, I got your backs, I'm on your side. People.
Now we have to go to the Capitol and we
have to fight like hell and be like wait what
(54:31):
and so what took place here was the BBC taking
the entirety of his speech, which ran about one hundred
ten minutes minutes, I know, it was like an hour
fifteen minutes something like that. They actually did a cut
and paste job. So he was talking in a segment about,
(54:51):
you know, we need to back everybody at the Capitol
that's you know, fighting on our behalf, and we have
to support them and even use the words we have
to do so peacefully and patriotically and lend them more support.
And then in a later segment an hour into this speech,
he was talking about going forward, you know, in the country,
(55:12):
and people are gonna be opposed to us, but we
can't packed how we got to fight like hell and
stand for a ground. And they put those two pieces
together an hour apart, and on the playback of the documentary.
When the edit on the audio came up, they did
an edit on the video as well, so you see
Trump speaking live, and then they cut to other footage
while the audio kept playing uncut. Absolute hatchet shot, absolute
(55:42):
ethical breach of the highest order when it comes to journalism.
So this got revealed about a week ago, even though
it's a year old documentary and people are saying well wait, why,
hum what? And as this came to light, it became scandalous.
And then last weekend two of the top executives at
the BBC actually resign over this major stuff. And as
(56:07):
we said, Brian Stelter has been on it. I've seen
him on at least two different segments on CNN. He
appeared on the BBC I don't like Tuesday or Wednesday
of this week, and then I think last night he
was on PBS, still going on about this. And all
(56:31):
you need to know what level of bullshit he's selling
here is he keeps hyping on the edit and he's
called it a misstep, he's called it an editing error. No,
this was a hit. This was intentional. The manner in
which they cut the audio and then they did the
(56:51):
edit of the video to hide it. This was all
intentional and malicious. But yeah, did you see the reason
why this was coming up? It was actually about two
Mondays ago, about ten days ago.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
I didn't actually see what started the firestorm. I just
know that it all of a sudden, it was all
over and has continued to be all over my feet.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
There was an internal investigation that took place at the
BBC they actually studied broadcast on the network for a
couple of years and turned this. It was an internal study,
internal review of their journalism practices, a laundry list of problems.
(57:47):
So much of their coverage of the Israel Gaza war.
I mean, I've covered in my column numerous times where
the BBC had to walk back comments or make corrections
on the air a story, repeat you lost if he
was in error, and we need to corrupt things because
of our journalism standards. Yeah, they've done that repeatedly.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
They had the world the truth got held up in traffic.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Like one of their primary correspondents was found to have
put out grossly inaccurate information that was spoon fed to
him by Hamas and even when he got caught and
called out on it, still defended them. Oh they're you know,
they're still the most right source for information coming out
of the region.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
You simple coming out of Pollywood.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
And then in this internal document they even noted that.
And I wasn't even aware that this existed. But I'm
not socked. But on on the BBC standard network they
would report on stories in the Middle East in a
certain way, but over at what they have BBC Arabic.
(59:03):
They would report on the same incidents completely different fashion,
right pro Gaza, pro Hamas, pro this or that, Like
they would do the stand by, side by side of
the same story. This is how it was a BBC
this is BBC Arabic, and it would be one hundred
and eighty degrees out of face right and on a I.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
Mean, that's not unique to them, but I know I've
talked about it frequently. I remember during yeah, the the
War on Terror, I was a graveyard bartender. I'd be
watching you know, the live in beds overnight on Fox,
and then I'd wait, go to bed, wake up in
the afternoon, watch the news and be like, am I
even watching the same war? This is when my distrust
(59:51):
for the media was born, sometime around two thousand and two.
I mean I always had a healthy distrust for it,
but that was just why developed open contempt.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
That was the birth of orty cynicism. Yes, well, the
the amazing thing is this isn't even the only documentary
controversy that this study had found, because and I covered
this big time. In February there was another documentary the
(01:00:20):
BBC put out and it was like a day in
the life of children of Gaza.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I remember this.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Camera crews are following the kids around and you know,
they're in rubble strewn streaks and they have to scramble
for food here and there and more torn areas and
their life is impacted. And the BBC even touted this
as their own production, like we did this and we're
very proud of our expose a what the life in
(01:00:50):
Gaza is like. And as this came out, people started
looking at it and they're like, wait, a damn second,
that kid. I know that kid where I know him from. Oh,
he's the son of one of Hamas's top for whatever,
their military branker. That's their son. And then the other
(01:01:12):
kids were all connected as well to other Hamas members.
The cameraman was found out to be a supporter of
Hamas M and so then the BBC started to issue corrections.
It's like, well, we needed to there are some things
we didn't alert you to. We have to point this out.
And then it became well, yeah, it turns out we
(01:01:33):
we we didn't. We didn't make this. It was made
by another production company. We just sanctioned to put it
on the air. Was it us? Was it not our fault?
And then it got so bad that again another internal
study was done. This went all the way up into
British Parliament as to how in the hell did this
(01:01:53):
get on there to the point that they had to
take it down. Now it's gone.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Because remember BBC is government broadcasting. It is, yes, yeah,
it's it's it's a little deeper than PBS relations And
don't forget in the UK you have to have a
license to have a television anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, and when they say license, it's you pay a tax,
which means you are paying for the BBC, right, and
this is commonplace throughout europ bag this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, but it'd be like you're being taxed to watch
PBS while being taxed to find the PBS.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
And I think this is part of the reason why
Stelter is so passionate about this story, because he doesn't
want to see the BBC go through what NPR and
PBS just went through being defunded. And again, I mean,
we can do probably eighteen shows and not cover everything
involving Stellelter. But all right, this is a guy that
(01:03:03):
loves to teut how the media holds our government responsible.
They're the Chuck Vell, They're the fourth of state. Okay,
but Brian, they can't be that if they're being paid
by the state, right, as we've seen from PBS over
the years, and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
For the state is to the air of the fifth column.
Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, yeah, Aggie loves to use that analogy. It's yeah.
I mean, there's absolutely zero reason anybody in the media
should be taking government funding, period. And Gavin Newsom, of course,
just started the program in your state where they're subsidizing
news outlets. Yes, gee, I wonder what that's gonna do
to the coverage of his administration.
Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
You know. The one thing I know is that they're
really mad at CACR and the Sacramento NBC affiliate, So
I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
What they do.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Well, No, I mean you'll see, I mean, I know
you follow Jennifer van Lauren. She retweets I'm drawing a
blank on the reporter's name right now, But she was
on the whole epitus of Prop fifty like a dog
on a bone. Well, who drew the maps? Where the
maps come from? You know, you just and Casey ra A,
they're fairly fair, you know, of all the news outlets
(01:04:27):
in California, I'll take their word over. You know, they're
they're fairly fair when it comes to California politics. So
I and I know, having that like hometown reporting constantly
up your ass because this reporter is the one that
win people on in California Assembly see her coming. She's
the old ship reporter because they know she's got some
(01:04:49):
shit on you and if she's coming to talk to you,
you better have your shit straight.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's Did you see him? This is
the side story. But on the Mom Donnie election night,
you probably saw this where some asshole photographer from the
New York Times was slamming the one reporter that was
actually working that night because she was hanging on She
(01:05:20):
was hanging on the shoulder of Hassan Piker and just
you know, waiting to see what insane thing about communism
he was gonna spout off. And then this guy said,
oh man, you know, three hundred reporters in her room
and you see him all avoiding one. You know what's
going on.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
M H was like, the journal is Ashley Zavala, uh
at zavalia A check her out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
She's awesome anyway, Yeah, she's a I think she's from
the free press. If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Uh she's uh no, casey a news out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Of I mean oh that one, yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah, sorry, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah that they sounds similar. That's why I brought it up,
is because it sounds like when she comes in and
actually starts performing journalism, all the other quote journalists get upset, right,
It's like, why are you doing that? That's so ikey?
Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yeah, what is that? Is that? Journal ew? That's like
SPJ stuff society professional ew ethics. Yeah, so anyway, BBC
had an error of judgment.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, this is yeah, and then this is just ongoing
and this is why Stelter is all about it. So,
like one of his arguments this week, he keeps harping
on the editing error. It was the myths that he
was an accident. You know. He actually said the balance
of the documentary was very good. It's like, oh, so
(01:06:56):
it was a mostly accurate documentary, is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Mostly peaceful.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I mean, I'm I'm of the opinion since I cover
both the media and Hollywood. Generally, documentaries are supposed to
be even more accurate because of you know, time spent
research put into it, you know the length of it,
the breadth of the reporting. They're supposed to be kind
of definitive, Brian.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
So when you come up with documentary, there are two
document like literally the rest of.
Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
It was good. Yeah, I'm just you know.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
It's like talking about your job. Well the hours are good,
but most of the actual minutes are pretty lousy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Just and the way he keeps just pimping for them,
It's like, I gotta protect the BBC. I'm gonna die
on this hill. I gotta do it, gotta gotta get
out there and pump this. And it's that's the last
guy you want in your corner. Sorry, he's not helping
your BBC. I'm just saying, but I've just had to
laugh at like this flood of other journalists that have
(01:08:07):
come out this week.
Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
The baby sees the most trustworthy news. And this is
what upsets the people on the right. All these conservatives
are upset with us because you're lying your ass off.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I mean, they try to pretend that. And that's the
other trips Stelter's trying to play here. You know, Conservatives
keep attacking them, people on the right keep criticizing the BBC.
Oh for noticing is that is that the problem Brian
that we picked up on the lies is that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Okay, yeah, so you notice going Asterns.
Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Republicans pounce once again, and and then he's out there
fighting and saying, you know, the overriding problem is the
funding and the decoupling possibly from British government, which is
the ultimate goal of those on the right. Well, all right,
how about this get your shit straight. It wouldn't be
a problem just gonna say. I mean, maybe if you
(01:09:08):
didn't light your ass off, people wouldn't be so concerned
about you lying your ass off. You see how that works, right,
But it's pure comedy anymore because they've been caught. And
again it's not this one documentary, this one edit. This
was one entry in a journal that was turned in
to BBC management of how many times we're screwing up
(01:09:31):
on a regular basis. I think one of the measures
they talked about on the news reporting side of things,
how many errors they came up with, and it totaled
out to be something like two factual errors for every
day that they broadcast the news.
Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
That's that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
And this is what I'm saying is it's like this
is an old one off It's not like, Okay, you
caught us this one time. It's like, no, there's a
telephone book size journal they just turned in of problems.
They don't want to adjust the problems though. This is
the common thread I see throughout the press. They don't
want They'll say there's a problem, Fixing it the last
thing they want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
All right, That's what it always comes back here. I mean,
that's why CBS and everybody is in such vapors about
CBS right now. Oh my god, they might actually do journalism.
That means we're gonna have to do journalism. Fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Well, this is what I'm seeing that since Barry Wis
took control is every so often they're an interview where
they actually ask a Democrat a tough question. The democrat
looks offended. The resident people in the press start wailing
about it. It's like Shire's turning us into Maga by
(01:10:57):
asking a question. Is that what you're saying? You know,
the CBS Morning Show a few days ago, they actually
dared ask a Democrat like, you know, how how come
you keep saying you guys didn't shut it down when
you're voting. No, Oh my god, you're not supposed to
say that out loud pretty much the reaction mm hmm staggering,
(01:11:19):
But okay, we don't want to learn then go with it?
Oh rather right, Well, do you want to turn some
attention to Hollywood movies about.
Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Yeah, if there's if there's a if there's an industry
that's more icky than Hollywood, it's the news media. So
let's cleanse ourselves in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah. They like to say that the Hollywood is upstream
of culture than politics. So I guess the water is
supposed to be fresher, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Slightly lest giardia.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yeah, might not need to pour the water over so
much charcoal before drinking.
Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
The last few years, Brendan Frasier has just kind of
reformulated his career. I think he's got another movie coming out.
It's like what Rental Family, Family Rental or such, where
he's looks like he's over in Japan and spending time
with one of the local families there, and it's an uplifting,
heartfelt drama. Oscar Bait is what you're saying, got it?
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Oscar ban Yeah, I mean there's really only two ways
to do a movie like that in Japan. You're either
doing mister Baseball or Oscar Bait.
Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah, I'll go with that. And this one is again
Oscar Bay. A couple of years ago he won for
the Whale, where he played a grossly corporate individual and
the life he went through. But this is kind of
where he's at now, where he's playing these very grounded,
serious roles. He's looking a little plumper these days. I'm
(01:13:07):
not going to knock the guy. He's older. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I only bring all this up because Paramount has announced
they want to go back to the well with the
Mummy movies and bring him and Rachel Weize.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Back, which you know, I'm not mad at it. I'm
not mad at it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I'm not either.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I mean, after The Scorpion King, how could you be?
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah, boy, talk about a movie that needed ai yikes man, But.
Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
The practical effects and the thing were infinitely better than
anything that was in The Scorpion King.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Oh that that movie was unwatchable when it came out,
and watching it today is oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah? Is that good for camp?
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Looks like the animated Man. Yeah, but yeah, they want
to go go back to that successful franchise. And I
just saying, I mean he's probably going to have to
take on the role of, you know, overseeing a younger archaeologist.
(01:14:19):
Is that what we want to call it?
Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Thrill seekert as long as they don't do it like
fucking Crystal Skull, because Universal has not had a lot
of luck dipping back into the well with the Dark Universe.
Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Mm hmm. Well, they they gave Tom Cruise the Mantle
to try to bring back the Dark Universe to begin
with the Mummy, and it ended with the Mummy. Yeah,
there were They had all the dreams that they were
(01:14:54):
going to bring back of Frankenstein and bring back a Mummy,
and bring back the.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
U and Swamp. Yeah, the whole Dark Universe, all of
them had a slot and all of them were canceled
before the second weekend of Tom Cruise's Mummy being out.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I mean, it was all plotted out. They were doing this.
They had their own universe built up, and they were
gonna rival Marvel and it was all gonna happen, and
then the Mummy came out. H I will say though,
and I think there's what three Frankenstein's coming out and
(01:15:35):
within a matter of months, But there's one on Netflix
by Gaormul del Toro and that's pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Interesting, right, Yeah, that one looks all right, Yeah, that
one looks a lot like Frankenstein Unbound. I think it
was uh god, I can't even remember who was in that,
but it was pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
He's being very faithful to the book, very much a
period piece, and uh I watched I'm Able to Squead
He's in like twenty minutes a while ago, and it's
pretty interesting. Visuals are pretty good special effects and such,
So give that a whirl if you're into such. But yeah,
the Paramount wants to bring it back, so I don't
(01:16:14):
I'm just trying to imagine what direction you're going in,
because when Fraser was in that franchise, initially he was
very much the action hero.
Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
M Yeah, I mean both Mommy and Mummy returned. Between him,
they made four hundred million, which in early two thousand,
you know, late nine, nineteen ninety nine, two thousand numbers
is pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, that definitely paid off for them. I
just don't know he's gonna have to be a mentor,
is the way I'm looking at this. Yeah, yeah, I
just don't think he's got the physical chaps to do
the same stuff, so he's probably gonna be you know,
like riding along and then staying in the car while
the other guy goes out and actually does the fighting.
Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna interrupt again a second. Yeah, The Mummy,
it made four hundred and seventeen million dollars on an
eighty million dollar budget.
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Yep, that's pure profit right there.
Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Yeah, that's just that's cold. I mean that was striking
hot with Brandon Fraser being at his peak at the
time racial wise. Yeah, so that was just that was
plus great visual effects, good story, you know, the things
we used to love.
Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Yeah, you mean the quality. I think that's the word
you're going for. Yeah, imagine that.
Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
I forgot what that word was. What's the opposite of despair?
Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Well, the I know, it's just something we've been talking
about for the last few episodes, and it's there's this
kind of a darth of content out there in Hollywood
in this weekend coming up. I mean we're one away
from Thanksgiving weekend and the only thing on the radar
is the remake of The Running Man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Which really I've seen maybe one one sheet on and
a commercial not really not really blown up the media tour.
From what I've seen, You're at a bigger you might
(01:18:39):
see more of it than I do.
Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Very little. Yeah, you're right, it's not you know, like
I'm just over the weekend. You would think this is
you know, male action. What's that ties during football? Not
so much.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Nope, weird.
Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
So this one stars Glenn Powell and it's, uh, this
is supposed to be even truer to the Stephen King
book than the Arnold Schwarzenegger original film.
Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
The Running Man, which is talking it up.
Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Like it could be interesting. I like scroll through a
bunch of the reviews and basically it's and I'm reading
the reviews, it's like, wow, this is probably gonna get
like about a sixty percent, sixty five percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
That is right at sixty four.
Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Yeah, basically right now.
Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Common theme is like, not fantastic, but it's a good
popcorn movie. You'll have fun, good acting in it, there's
some decent action. It's enjoyable enough. You know, it's like
all this kind of qualified, like I'm not supposed to
like this, but it was okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
The main consensus quoting from Rotten Tomatoes is Kah spiritedly
sprinting through grim source material. Edgar Wrights. The Running Man
doesn't live up to the director's high bar for inventive
action extravaganzas, but maintains a slick stride.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, they're almost he's slumming, but put out a good product.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
I mean, Josh Brolin's in it, so that should be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah, but it's not Baby Driver. That's that, That's what
we wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Yeah, I really hope, I really hope he's the one
who's reprising Ronnie Cox's character in it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Mm hmmm, well it's uh, it's got a pretty decent chance,
only because there's not a lot of competition out there
right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
None.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I mean to nail it before Wicked to come out
for Thanksgiving. That's why I can't believe they did a
sequel to that.
Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Well, I guess, but that this is what the big Thanksgiving.
I mean, you gotta remember Thanksgiving is the peak, the
opening of the holiday season. This is when the winter
blockbusters start to hit. This is the you know, not
(01:21:29):
just the holiday movies, but just I mean, if I
remember right, Star Wars was released in the around Christmas,
I mean Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Well, I want to have check on something here.
Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Because okay, yeah, you you fire up your Google food,
let us know what you got going on.
Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
No, I haven't heard, and I'm pretty sure. No, it's
got to be Wicked, because usually the first the weekend
of Thanksgiving, I should say, is Disney's animated rollout. Mhm,
I mean that's their slot. That's when Malana.
Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Comes out, and that's what Disney.
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
And see. Yeah, O, Wicked's coming out the twenty first,
so let's see. Okay, maybe then there is Utopias too.
I alright called it that's coming out. Oh that's why
it was on Wednesday. I should have thought of that. Okay,
so everything's right, everybody can calm down. Disney does have
(01:22:35):
a computer animated movie on Thanksgiving. Thankful.
Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
I have to ask a question, since you guys like
the bet and wager things, will Wicked be out to
streaming before we do our Wizard of Oz radio play?
Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Probably I'm gonna I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna say that. No,
that would I mean, depending upon how close you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I don't think, cause no.
Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
That'll be just in time for uh, that'll be just
in time for streaming.
Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I'm gonna say no, I think they're going to carry
it through Christmas and then have it hit streaming just
in time for award season, so it'll get pimped out there. Well,
what's the date on the radio show.
Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
Let's see, looking at most likely the twelfth or the nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Yeah, all right, if it's the twelfth, definitely not nineteen.
I'm gonna still say no. I think they want it
in theaters for Christmas. They could just suck as much
blood out of people as they can and then probably
go streaming around January mid January.
Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I'm gonna throw a qualifier in here. My bet they're
gonna go there. They will go stream for Christmas, but
it's not going to be free. They're not just going
to do that. So they're gonna they'll premium it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Right, so you could watch it in home for nineteen
dollars plus the singalong version with karaoke lyrics included. Uh huh,
because apparently that was the big thing with the first release,
people going and performing in their seats in the theater.
Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Shoot me, now, yeah, I I that's that's my take.
That's my bet. It's going to be on streaming by
the nineteenth, but not free streaming.
Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Because it's a good bad a good bet.
Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Yeah, they that way, go with it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I'll uh you know, I'll lay the chalk for first
or second week of January.
Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Okay, that's just my take, all.
Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Right, Oh, what do we got left here? What do
we got? We're all over the map, Like we said.
Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
There's what we got that we got a hot ticket
on Hulu right now.
Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Ah. I was just pulling that up. That would crack
me up. Not that I'm a fan of it or
anything of the sort, but the Secret Lives of what
Swinging Mormon Wives is that?
Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Yeah, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
And uh this this is basically Disney slash Hulu's version
of the Housewives of Beverly Hills, Housewives of every other
city known to man whatever, m I see it come
up when I you know, the few I'm probably getting
rid of Hulu sou just because I got so many
(01:25:55):
damn channels now, but I'm watching a few other things
is on there at the moment, and this will come
up on occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
It's like really, wow, really turns out third season of
this is coming up. They could not be more excited
at Hulu.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Yeah, because this.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Is the highest rated program on the platform, and I
love a deadline where they they put in the qualifier
even better ratings than the Kardashians, though Disney doesn't want
to admit it. Yeah, I guess not, huh yeah, because
(01:26:40):
it's just general to get a little cranky. But somehow
this is actually I guess they said it was almost
as sure to be a hit because in season one
there was a scandal with some of the wives because
they got caught up in swinging and found out about it.
And you know, I just have to laugh because they
(01:27:02):
said that they kind of break formula because unlike the
other Housewives show where people go out drinking and breaking
out in the fights, these are Mormons, so they don't
drink alcohol and they don't even drink soda or coffee
because they can't have caffeine.
Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
But everything else is the same.
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
So they can go and raw dog in a hotel
with a bunch of strangers and that's okay what you're saying.
But they're I'm just trying to pick up on the
Mormon through line here where the standards come in to play.
Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
But got it, got it all right?
Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
So yeah, this is this is the big hit on
on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Mhmm, you know I missed the days of the Great
British Baking Show.
Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah, well, sorry, Chris Jenner. After how many freaking decades
have you been on TV? You're kind of being replaced,
kind of sort of.
Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
But in the coverage, two was noting that most of
these reality housewives shows were dying off because cable is
a dying entity.
Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Right, I mean, who even talks about Bravo anymore? And
that's where it all began.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Yeah, you know, yet Bravo was the one channel that
Comcast Universal hung on.
Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Too weird, probably for that series.
Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
But apparently the The Mormon Swinging Housewives is is a
big hit for Disney Hulu, so m Chris Jenner has
to take the silver medal. I guess yeah. I think
as an indicator of just how much streamers are struggling.
(01:28:46):
They're just trying to get any kind of traction where
they can. But we are at the tops.
Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Are so fucking high during COVID, just leading into COVID
with quality and content that they they kind of shot
their wad because nothing is grabbing me. Well, they had
no I guess I'll go subscribe to Apple TV for sorry,
(01:29:19):
Apple Plus or no it's Apple TV. Now, I guess
I'll go subscribe to Apple TV and binge that. Nope,
not even worth it. I'll go back and watch a
show I've watched five times from the nineties. Because everything sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I am gonna uh probably, I don't know, maybe tonight
I whant to start doing it. I do have the
new season of Slow Horses I gotta dig into. Okay,
I'm partial to that one. Gary Oldman is awesome. Gotta
do it. Yeah, But yeah, otherwise it's like, oh crap,
that's right, it's on Apple Plus. Guess what I have
to get again for fourteen days. But but yeah, the streamers,
(01:30:01):
they had a captive audience and kind of instead of
maximizing things, they kind of got lazy, it seems like,
because now they're all struggling. I don't know who's got
the massive hit out there that you just have to
see beyond Netflix. Speaking of looking at the niels and numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, that is the best
segue you have ever done. Brad Well.
Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I've been boning up on my latin, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
And bone.
Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Phrasing kind of reflective of what we're seeing in theaters.
There's not a lot of diversity going on here. Pretty
much it's Netflix and only Netflix, with few incursions that
we'll see. So Number one, on the original side of things,
we got Monster, the Ed Guyn story, and then Love
(01:30:54):
is Blind all one hundred and twenty two episodes of it.
Number two the dip the map is I think that
season two plus the season one I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Yeah, that's twenty two episodes, so yeah, eleven episode slate
on the first season. Maybe ten episodes slate on the
first season, so yeah, that's season one and two. These
top three nothing broke a billion minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah, what's going on there? Maybe I don't football season,
but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
That's odd, right, But even then that should be reflected
in the streaming.
Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I have no idea about.
Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Boots, none, no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
What that is doesn't register, doesn't register. But over a
paramount plus Tulsa King that hits it in the top
of the how about that? And Cody?
Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
I wish I was here for the one time that
I'm not bagging on The Great British Banking Show. Yes
it is bad, and The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
I'm sorry, I'll take the wholesome entertainment.
Speaker 6 (01:32:11):
Were you fasesis on your understanding of what boots is?
Or were you telling the truth?
Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
I'm serious.
Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
So it's on Netflix?
Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
Bullied gay teen Cameron joins the Marine Corps with his
best friend despite risk in boot camp, they experienced profound
personal change amid danger as their platoon confronts both literal
and figurative land mindes.
Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Didn't we just make fun of this last episode?
Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
I actually hate you, Jeff, for informing me about this. Yes,
I have to rush out and.
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Not actually think I actually think that we made fun
of that on the last episode and immediately repressed.
Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
It because I'm yeah, I mean, and by all indications,
it's gonna be blank once again.
Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I know this has come up in a topic of
conversation somewhere. I don't know if it was here, if
it was on Rick and already.
Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
But yeah, I'm gonna pleading ignorance because nah, okay, Jeff
just read that to me, and all I could really
pictures Jesse Plemmons and fatigues in the red glasses from
Civil War? What what kind of American?
Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Yeah? But that you know it also kind of reminds
me of when you and Paul did Independence Day two
and it was about eighty percent through the show when
I realized, holy fuck, I've seen this movie.
Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Yeah. Same, It's that happens frequently, all right. Hulu manages
to hit with murders in the building and then people
are getting ready for the return of Stranger Things. They're
watching that. When's they still on? And Miss Rachel? What
they actually moved that on? The Netflix? Didn't know that?
Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Well? There it is from uh with only eight episodes. Yeah,
so is Wednesday actually out now?
Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
I believe so? Yes, I think yeah, I think our
last episode it was just premiering.
Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Okay, we're just but yeah, because I coudn't that, so
I'll re up my Netflix for that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I'm wondering why Miss Rachel isn't considered an acquired series.
Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
I don't think, you know, we kind of skipped over
the YouTube story where they're getting into uh late night
television now live late night television and.
Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
One.
Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Yeah, but I think it's because the same reason why
three years ago or before COVID, nobody took Netflix seriously
as a TV studio, and now they are TV or
movie studio, and now they are dominating the awards shows.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Oh yeah, and they're gonna get the live too, So
I think YouTube is like, well, we better get on
that train. Yeah yeah, so we'll see if that stuff
comes up. Got another one that's blank here on the
acquired series. Poul Dark is number one.
Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Forty three episodes. Have never heard of the fucking thing
inside Netflix? Jeff, help us out.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I'm gonna say foreign production.
Speaker 6 (01:35:36):
That's actually what I haven't heard yet.
Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Okay, you go on, I'll fire up the Google machine.
Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Sure, well, then we got it. Of course, ncis Gray's Anatomy, Bob's, Burger's, Bluey, SpongeBob,
all the usual ones are on here, Big Bang Theory,
Law and Order, no shock or outside of number one,
So yeah, we need answers and over.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
That is a British historical drama called It based on
the novel. It was originally on the BBC in seventy
five through seventy seven. Plot Overview and seventeen eighty three,
Captain ross ven Or Poldark returns from the American Revolutionary
(01:36:21):
War to his home of Napara in Cornwall after three
years in the army. If on returned home, he discovers
his father, Joshua's died, his estate is in ruins and
in considerable debt, and his childhood sweetheart Elizabeth is engaged
to his cousin Francis.
Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
There we go, yeah, won't be won't be stampeding to
that one? All right. On the movie side, we've got
The Perfect Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
It's ten years old. Okay, sorry, go ahead, it.
Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Must have just come on. Then The Woman in Cabin
ten also on Netflix. Peacock is on there with How
to Train the Dragon. Vacation, the A Team movie has
moved to Netflix after what fifteen years? Then they got
some Maze Runners, they get the John Candy documentary and
(01:37:15):
then play Dirty on Prime.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
So overall vacation is that the National Lampoon's vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
No vacation? Where were oh?
Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Number five? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Number five? It might be?
Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Got a forty year old movie that must have just
been released.
Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
And then overall, as we said, nobody hit a billion.
So we've got the Ed Guynes story number one, Paul
Dark number two, Sure Love is Blind, The Diplomat is
on their NCIS cuts in Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Boots, Boots Perfect Now.
Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
K Pop Demon Hunters, and then Bob's Burger's all right,
that's gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Okay, See I want to. I wanted this to prove
a point to that dude who had his first gay
rom com that America is homophobic because nobody went to
go see his movie eight episodes number seven gay content.
How about if you make a good movie, sport, just
put it out there.
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Take that Billy Hiker. Oh god, oh god.
Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
They can't do that episode because I was not gonna
make it.
Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
So uh no, they found out what vacation is. It's
a next generation reboots starring Clark Griswold's son Rusty.
Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Jesus fucking Christ did anybody ask for that?
Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Is this a TV show or movie? Movie? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
I call it a movie?
Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Who's playing Rusty?
Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Is that the one with that helms? Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Okay, okay, yeah that was like ten years old.
Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
They came out in theaters, yeah a while back and failed.
Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
Okay, yeah, okay, no, I remember we talked about it,
so it was definitely a pre COVID production.
Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Mm hmm, all right, well I think that's gonna wrap
it for us. So Orty, why don't you let people
know where they can find more of your content?
Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Well, that's a fantastic question. Giving everything that's going on
this week, maybe Saturday night on Juck's position, we'll see
how Rick's doing. He's uh, everybody to keep him in
your prayers. He's got some family stuff going on. Sunday
I will be on the Visit Charles Project almost call
it experience. That's the old show. Then next week Wednesday
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with Rick and Orty and that's and you can find
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still how about you where people find you and your
fantastic hair birthday boy.
Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I am seen daily over at town hall dot com.
I got a media column called Riff from the Headlines
also on the front page of Red State, where I've
also got a twice weekly media podcast called Liable Sources,
and here on this network. So next Thursday I'll be
here with Paul Young from Screen Ramp on Disasters in
the Making and Tuesday evenings with Aggie on the Cocktail
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Lounge and if you need more of me over a
jitter at Martini Shark, all right, gonna be I think
we're gonna be a little bit of a hitch because
of a holiday coming up, we may not do our
next episode.
Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Huh uh. That is a good question.
Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
To land on Turkey Day, if I'm not mistaken, So
it is you might have.
Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Yes, because we are not ones to pre record. Our
news is fresh, just like the turkey you'll be eating
that day.
Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Well, then we'll see everybody in December as it was
here on the Culture Shift.
Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
And how was everybody doing out in k l r N.
And it is Thursday night, which means it's your early
introduction to the weekend. This is the culture shift. How's
everybody doing? On Brad Slagger? We're getting ready to reveal
and expose all of the vital things taking place in Hollywood,
the entertainment sphere and such. So as we walk down
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the Hollywood Walk of Fame, not doing it by myself
because walking stride, my stride with me is America's most
digitized and laser focused Amish individual. It's already packard. How's
it going already? You know?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I just got side by side from Hudson Hawk that
scene in my head. I'm not sure if I'm Danny
Aella or Bruce Willis in that, but uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You're fond of that fiasco, I know that much.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's a fantastic movie and I will not let you, Sully.
It's a good reputation like that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
By the way, tune in next week as we silly
the reputation. We won't do that too.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
How is the left coast treating you? Okay? Is everything
going all right in your neck of the woods which
is north of Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, No, everything is beautiful out here, you know, seventy
two sunny. Next weather forecast will be in five days.
I a stoure. We do have some weather coming in,
but for right now, it's fucking beautiful. How about everything
out in America's wang? How you doing? Did you get
the aurora down there?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
No? No, no, it didn't reach our our area, of course,
But I just had to rely on the rest of
the family and other people across the country sending me
pictures of what they were enjoying. So alas, we had
to go with the usual blue skies and clouds and
everything else and clear skies at night. Had a bit
of a cold snap this week. We actually hit the
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forties once. Ooh yeah, So it was kind of funny
go outside on two Tuesday morning and seeing a collection
of the little lizards all splayed out across the sidewalk
because they were in their winter torpor. He just couldn't
handle forty eight degrees.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
When it's raining iguanas.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, I didn't quite go to the iguana farm for that,
but yeah, that I've experienced that before too. There been
times there used to be a park on my route
I would go to and I think one day I
saw about two dozens sitting on the ground just going like.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
H for you guys out there. I imagine that's a
lot like the swallows returning to Capstrano.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh yeah, okay, I'll go with that. Not quite gonna
be a Hallmark movie moment or anything of the sort,
but yeah, that's a couple of times a year. We
always like to do that. I take the grand kid
out and we'll get the flashlights and see if we
can find any plummeting and have fun with them. But
that's been hard.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
When Hallmark Channel runs low on material and they find
a place in Vancouver that looks like Florida, I guarantee
you it will be the subject of a Christmas movie.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, you know, on that note, they're actually this holiday
season going to be releasing the Hallmark Christmas movie featuring
the Buffalo Bills. They have an NFL themed movie.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I go back to The X Men when Cancerman says,
as long as I'm alive, the Buffalo Bills will never
win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Could be the case, could be the case. It was
rather amusing, well not amusing, but I was detached from
the Mayhem Sunday because my entire brood, that is Buffalo
Bill fans went to the game live here in Miami
and promptly died on a roasting spit because before the
cold snappy was a prompt eighty seven degrees here and
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it wasn't sufferable enough and had to have about a
twenty minute rainstorm at halftime, So just let's just cook
the parking lot and produce a lot of steam on
top of all of this heat with no breeze, and
there you go. And frankly, the Bills suffered as well.
They got their ass handed to them by one of
the worst teams in the league, Miami.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well thank god for that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It was amazing. It was amazing. I'm in the bar
drinking in comfort and we're all in disbelief. At the
same time, We're like, how was this happening? What the
hell it was? Just amusing. Well, we've got kind of
a mixed bag. I'm going to speaking of Hallmark movies.
How about this for a segue? We've that, Yeah, you know,
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in this time of cheer and family love and just
you know, sharing heartwarming moments among the holidays, I came
across this commercials today. I want to play for everybody
just so we can. I don't know if it's so
much an entry into the season but an entry into
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our future. I'm gonna say that I'm gonna play just
to give you an intro. It's gonna start out with
a woman in her kitchen, she's noticeably pregnant, and she's
talking on the phone with her mother. That's all you
really need to know. As far as visuals go, We're
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gonna play the clips reject a the time.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm getting shades a mob bell all over this already.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, if you recall was in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think, yes, reach out and touch someone.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They had a family and they were looking at the
matron of the family, who is you know, tears coming
down and they're like, what's the matter. It's like timmy
cold and they're like, oh my gosh, it's everything Okay,
and she's sobbing. He just cold to say I love
you and then reach out, reach out and touch someone. Yeah,
(07:03):
it's a vain I'm going to present this. Go with
it for now, and then we'll explain to you the
difference in all of this.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
He's getting bigger, see, oh wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Kicking like crazy, he's listening.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Put your hand on your chummy and hum to him.
You're used to out of there.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Feels like it's dancing in there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, now, next thing, title card comes up and says,
ten months old.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Would you tell Charlie that bedtime story you always used
to tell me?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Once upon a time there was a baby unicorn who
didn't know he knew how to fly. This baby unicorn
was like her mom because she didn't know that she
knew how to fly, but she know how to do
all kinds of fabulous things.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I hate all right, and now it's the sing young boy,
but at the much more hail age of ten years
old Charlie. I went to school today. It was really fun.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I mean this crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't really care that much about basketball? What about
the crush?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Stop? Stop?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Just tell me one And now it's the same fun
decades later, at thirty years old, so it's gonna be
a great grandmother.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh Charley, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
She says that he's been kicking a lot though, like
well too much.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Tell her to put her hand on her tommy and
hummed him.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You loved that. You'd have loved this moment.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You can call anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And uh as everybody's getting weepy, it now says before Charlie,
and we see the same woman at the start who's
now using her camera phone for her mother. Okay, Mom,
I just need a quick video because it's like an
audition or something, you know, Mom, just three minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You need my best side. I can play the piano.
I am, I'm absolutely I'm your mother. After starts telling
us a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
All right, and you kind of get the impression they're
very big, happy family, and they say two, why three
minutes can last forever?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'll have therapy.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Did you did you get choked up about that? Did
that affect you at all? As far as uh, you know,
emotions and.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Feelings, shades of shades of packed bell, shades of mind commercials.
I just felt totally enthralled with the whole, loving nature
of this family, especially with thirty year old David and
his phone that doesn't exist yet, and grandmother looking exactly
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the same through all of them.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Ooh, a little bit of a spoiler alert there, because
here's the explanation now for for everybody to just listened
to these, you know, heartwarming moments shared with the mother
and grandmother on the phone. The entirety of that commercial
save for the last segment. Grandma's dead.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yes, she was fairly moribund when being filmed by the daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
If you if you heard that last segment where you know,
and she saying I get turned to the side and
I could play the piano and such, and the daughter
is filming her. This would be the daughter filming Mom
ahead of her dying, because this company will use that
video information to then formulate an AI version of your
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ex your pass away relative, so that you can then
interact with them in the afterlife. You can then share
your memories, your pregnancy, your baby's birth, the bedtime stories,
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and the grandchild then having his own son later in life,
and you can share all of that with a fucking robot.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah. As I said, it reminds me of Lily from
at and t Oh, that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
This is literally like when the ten year old is
walking down the sidewalk and such and he's like hi,
He's like having a fully animated conversation with the grandmother
he's never met. He's known her his entire life as
a phone robot. And when he's thirty years old and
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showing the computer program the images of the baby in
the womb, he's getting misty eyed and tearing up as
he does this with a robot.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now, this is all based off of a three minute
video that you provide for the person who you want
to reanimate non corporeally. So everything about it, everything about it,
because it's like, you know, in the end you cut
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it off before the end clip was like, well, tell
me a little something about your life and the grandma,
you know, and the mom jokingly says, well, I was
born as a small child, and which you know I
did get I did chuckle with that. So everything that
is happening through the we'll say multiple generations of the
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family enjoying this is one LLM hallucination. I mean, yes, Vincent,
it reminds me of the AI lawyer in Tech War two.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm just I'm trying to wrap my head because again
this is me being cursed with pragmatism. You're putting this
much effort to share your lifetime and memories with a robot.
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This is a computer program. This is not your mother.
Your mother is not seeing the birth of your child.
Your mother is not experiencing the life forces as they
grow and mature and become a personality and such. And
thirty years down the damn road, the sun is sharing
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his baby memories with his deceased grandmother who he's never met.
That is abjectly unhealthy behavior right there. I'm sorry, what
is going on here?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I mean, given my experience, my extensive experience with llms, yes,
this is extraordinarily unhealthy. This is what was that crap
movie with DiCaprio in it where he fell in love
with the AI?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh no it was Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
J Yes, they're kind of in her. Yeah, they're kind
of interchangeable to me, but at this point, just one
of them.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Has Although if it was Leonardo DiCaprio, he would break
up with the AI program after twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah and find a newer one. Oh this was and
a half years old. I need a newer.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Are we breaking up? No? No, no, I'm just I'm canceling
the account. You're breaking up with me, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I'm gonna go try I'm gonna go try GPT for
a while.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm sorry. It's it's not you, it's Grock. It's
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Back when Grock seven comes out because five point five
just isn't cutting it for me. You're getting a little
too long in the tooth there.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I can't. I mean, I've watched this commercial twice and
the first time it's like, Okay, I get the thrust
of this. They want to, you know, you want to
maintain some kind of connection with your pet. I get it.
But the second time I'm watching it, I'm paying attention
to the people, not the program, and they are completely
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absorbed in this. They are on board. I'm sorry, you
need therapy.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Here's where all right, this is creepy. Now, where I
could see this being used well, would be like the
people who have the genealogy bug, who have and who
have very detailed records of their family history, and there's
a lot of family notes and letters and everything like that,
(16:21):
and you could feed all of that in to use
to teach a oral history using pictures and everything else
to use to teach an oral history to future generations
that I would be okay with. This is LARPing a
live person in me completely hallucinated phase.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's like family cosplay something. I don't know how to
wrap my head around this, because when they jump to
the kid being thirty years old, I'm thinking, Holy crap,
this this is a damaged soul we're dealing with here,
because right how Amma passed away? He was still in
(17:02):
the womb when Grandma passed. Okay, I mean the AI program.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
H s all right, I think I'm back.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I have read. Yeah, freaking discord just took over my computer.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
That was odd. Uh everything went silent, so yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like lost the screen for a second. The Discord was
on screen, of what the hell is this all about?
And I couldn't get it to close.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Hey, I caven, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I made fun of the wrong program apparently.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, shouldn't have done that. I thought I was a
general outage or I would have amped. That's why I
went silent.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Mmmm ah, No, that was on my end. That was
just Bizarre's health.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, but hey, we're back, let's recoup.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay. When did I go dark?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah? We were ACTU I think we covered that one death.
It's just creepy fuck got it?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, that's just I mean I can see some value
for it, but not in the way it's being presented.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah. I think if you're actually attaching not just family memories,
but an entire lifetime to an AI program, damn, you
got some uh, you got some issues. I'm just going
to say it, full disclosure. I'm not a mental health professional,
might any stretch, and yet at the same time I
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could recognize this ain't good.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
What do you mean you know? It's like that? All
saying is I I you know, I I don't know
what the definition of obscenity is, but I know it
when I see it. I don't know what the definition
of insanity is, but I know when I see it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You spend three decades talking to the grandma you've never met,
and you're weeping because of this connection you have with
the robot. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
How are you so detached from reality that you don't
realize that it's all fabricated? I mean, are you supposed
to just lie to future generations and say, oh, no,
her whole personality and everything about her we did hours
of video. Yeah. No, he did a three minute clip.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, that's the thing. Three You submit to just their
facial reconstruction for three minutes, and somehow they're going to
replicate her personality and that's going to sustain you for decades. Yeah,
what are you doing? Holy help? But this is this
(24:44):
is the slow pour down. Now we've gone down this slope.
It's we're there, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
You know, one of the things we had a hard
time doing with the show tonight is that almost everything
in the industry is AI related. Now. You know, it's
like back during the strike, when every story was about
the strike and how strike you know, relates to everything,
and you know, and occasionally, but yeah, everything is how
(25:15):
you know, I mean, we talked about during the strike,
how AI was supposed to be verboten, how it was
completely white. You know, this is the hard line, studios
can't use AI, and all the studios went okay. And
now every article I could find today was about AI
and the embracing of the AI and how happy the
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studios were by it. And the actors are still going
but but but except for some of them.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
It was their third rail bargaining point in that entire strike,
Like they were working on things like medical coverage and
getting a better piece of the royalties and this and that.
And they were able to hammer that out because lawyers
mm hmm, but ai that was there that stalled negotiations
(26:06):
for a good month or so. Stretched this whole thing out,
became the big point that actors and writers would not abide.
You've got to put productions in. You gotta block this.
It's unacceptable. We can't work, sure, said the studios, no problem,
and bullshit said already and Brad, the studios are going
(26:31):
to embrace this, And they did so even faster than
we anticipated.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I gotta say. I mean, it wasn't even three episodes before,
you know, and doing this every other week. It was
three episodes before we started going, oh look MGMs Disney
plus blah blah blah blah blah. And it's just relentless now.
And I know we didn't cover it for this show.
(26:58):
We didn't bring it up here. And I did see
the other day that McConaughey and somebody else.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Who was that you were breaking up a bit.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It was McConaughey and somebody else. I'm drawing a blank
on uh.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They yeah, they're just all they're all in on this now,
you know. And this commercial, just to go back to
it quickly reminds me of something that took place about
what two months ago. Jim Acosta, the one time journalist
who's been kicked out of CNN. Yeah, he conducted an
(27:37):
interview with one of the students from the Parkland shooting,
one of the students who died at the Parkland High
School shooting.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Using a similar kind of program where the kids on
screen and there's Jim Acosta asking him direct questions about
gun control and other things, and there is the image
of this slain student. It was. It was unsettling, It
(28:16):
was journalistically corrupt. It is everything you expect from Jim Acosta.
Don't get me wrong, but yeah, yeah, how the hell
do you present that as a news item?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Your diary? Today? I interviewed a ghost.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Crack out the weedy board, Jim, I'd take that over this.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And you know, even we dove into the the psychological
repercussions or the family too, because if they're on board
with it, they're just not letting it go. They're not
moving on. And now it's like, so do they delete
this program and lose their son again or do they
keep it holding on to something that isn't real.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's it's just I don't it's so damn disturbing to
see this and the way that people just oh, yeah,
this is great. No it's not. Sorry, you're allowed to
say this is aft up And yeah we said this
about Hollywood pretty much from Jump Street. Like after they
(29:22):
resolved the strike, we both of us on here, like
adamantly said, oh, they're going to get into AI, but quick,
you know, these performers are going to get steamrolled. I
thought six months to a year, I didn't think. I
think they've resolved things in like August or so, when
pretty much by Christmas of that year, AI was leaching
(29:45):
its way into the studio.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I think I even predicted that this is probably one
of the last actor strikes there ever is because after
a while, who will need them anymore?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, oh you don't want to work, Well we got
some nobody who can't. Well, not somebody, but technically yeah.
I think within a matter of months they had was
it the was it the Roadhouse sequel or reboot or
they were They did pick up scenes and they had
to go AI with it, and then another movie they
were doing post production audio work with AI because they
(30:19):
couldn't get the actor into redubbed lines and just you
know again it's we called it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, the upside for the industry not so much for
the actors, but the upside for the industry is that
reshoots are gonna cost next to nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Now, yeah, precisely that. And one of the big ones
has now come out with a curious announcement. Curious in
that it basically defies everything that they prompts they wouldn't do.
Walt Disney on their streaming platform has just announced they
(30:58):
are going to take AI submissions from subscribers for content.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, through their AI, which it sounds like, you know,
they're they're they're gonna be a pro either you know,
they're gonna encroach on open ais Sora territory or you know,
maybe just use Sora too, But they are going to
allow licensing through their own branded AI where users can
(31:28):
submit they're frozen content, they're Marvel characters content, they're you
know whatever. To Disney Plus and tell me that you're
not admitting that you have an absolute glut of writers
who can't come up with dick in your house.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
As when you're doing that, I'm I don't have any
evidence to support my theory here, but I'm gonna blame
this on the Acolyte because they dropped two hundred and
fifty million on that aborted Star Wars attempt, and they
(32:15):
basically looked themselves in the mirror and said, if we
can get people to do this for free, it'll suck less, right.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I mean, and think of how much money Amazon could
have saved with Rangs of Power. Yeah, Jeff's beck.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Honestly, what I think is taking place here is that
Disney has realized what is on the horizon, and they've
already been battling with other you know, AI components out
there that were using their intellectual property as a basis,
and so I think Disney is saying, well, we can't
(33:00):
keep the whorees out of church, so we may as
well just become pimps ourselves. And now they are using
their own AI in an effort to maybe control the content.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Right, And you know, you know, you can't let me
little and Stitch get into the wrong hand. So what's
the best way to do that? You know, give the
fans the tools and let them make what they want,
and then you just, you know, if it's good. It
perflates up, and it's kind of something I wish Paramount
had learned long ago with instead of coming up with
(33:34):
the whole abortion of everything that has been Kurtzman Star Trek,
if they went with, you know, prelude to Axinar and
other fan creations that are on YouTube that were crowdsourced
and very good. You know, this is that step, you know,
right into that we can't fight it, so let's let's
(33:57):
market it.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Here's the irony. This is the same studio that used
to rage and call the lawyers anytime fan produced content
would come out.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
There was a lawsuit not long ago in the span
of us doing the show, so at least right before
COVID of the House of Mouse suing a family because
they had Pluto at a birthday party.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I mean, yeah, they were this attached to their intellectual properties.
Nobody can touch it, nobody can use it, nobody can
interpret it. Don't you dare make something without our approval, because,
oh God forbid, the people that actually loved the product
put out a quality product. Apparently it was the notionality there.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
You know what this means, We are going we are
going to get an absolutely fantastic sequel or prequel to
The black Hole.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Fifty years in the making. But finally, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I'm sure there's a lot of you know, treatments out
there and somebody's attic, you know in the steamer trunk
that somebody wrote decades ago, that you know, when Disney
decided it wanted to be embarrassed about the black Hole
rather than embrace it for what it was, are going
to get dusted off and AI generated, and I'm here
(35:36):
for it. Quite frankly, Disney can't do it themselves. We've
seen that.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, I'm literally amazed at where we at already.
The already part is what's amazing. I knew we were
going to get here, but hell, I figured maybe a
couple of years. They are on the throttle now. It
is kind of amazing that they went from God, no,
(36:05):
it would never happen to this. I mean, they're using
it for voiceover, they're using it in commercials, they're using
it in, like we said, pickup scenes on movies and
other fixes in the industry, and they're not stopping. So, yeah,
(36:25):
we're here, And I hesitate to put a timeframe on it,
but what a year, maybe year and a half Hollywood's
going to be a completely different animal.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, I think that's fair, and let's mark it on
the calendar before Okay, let's say, like this summer movie
season twenty twenty seven, we'll have our first full AI
movie as a summer talkbuster.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'll tell you interrupt real quick. I don't know if
you guys saw the tweet or not, but Elon is
predicting Grock Video to be able to do thirty minute
sitcoms within three months.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, I mean we.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Have reached We've kind of shit Canda mors law since
the early two thousands when it came to computers hardware.
I think we can start doing it with AI now.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I mean I'm laughing right now basically, so I don't cry,
because I mean, as much as we tear into entertainment
and complain about the craven nature of so much of it,
it's still human. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, no, totally, because they never will cross the uncanny valley.
Well that, but then we have upload your grandma for
a lifetime of family love.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, it was like today I came across his AI
video somebody made and it's stupid as hell, but it
cracked me up. It's just this cat shows up on
somebody's patio in the middle of the night and starts
playing the most obnoxious instruments, and the wife or mother,
whoever it is, comes barging out the door, and every
time does oh my god, it's midnight. Stop playing this,
(38:28):
and you know, rips the instrument out of the cat's
hands for a shotgun. Oh yeah, I saw that one too. Yeah,
this one just it just got progressively funnier because it
went from you know, playing a clarinet and playing a keyboard,
and then drums and then bagpipes and then you know.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
And.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I'm thinking, shit, am I laughing at a robot? No,
somebody programmed it to say this and do this. It
was just the computer just gave us the visuals. I'm
I don't know that a computer can actually write humor.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
No, I mean, I've got my GPT pretty well following
my tone, but still it's obviously not.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah. I mean that's basically using language touch points, cadence
and you know word usage as such. Humor is something
you need to develop, something you need to experience outside
of life, you know, bring it in. I don't know
that a computer has that capability.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
I'd argue half the humans in the world don't have
that ability.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
That's a fair assessment too, because yeah, I mean, when's
the last time we saw a good sitcom that didn't
have Kim Allen in it some way?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I mean, just look how humorless most of the
people on the left have become over the last ten years,
and they're the ones primarily programming this stuff.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
So I'm taking a step in again. Orty and I
have both been in the IT industry for way too
long than I think I care to admit. The number
of IT people who absolutely lack a sense of humor
are the ones rating this stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I can see that. I mean, I totally believe that.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It's not all the IT crowds, but this.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Is where we're getting rock from and all the other
things that are you know, we're people now, it's just
by default.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Any longer can remember the Queen days when we were
all mad about a Super Bowl commercial that had Freda
stareing it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That was the that was the start of it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That was Yeah, that really was I mean, hey, groundbreaking,
but also fuck.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I mean wasn't it? Was it about a decade or
so ago where they had the hologram of Tupac on
stage performing. Yeah, and I think more people were outraged
by that than embraced it, and that was the proper reaction.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Not enough people are outraged these days.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
We are a doomed society.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I mean this is I mean, everything we.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Do in this everything we do on this podcast reflex that.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
So it's we should probably even rename the podcast. How
can you not see this coming? You know, it's just
what we do all the time, like point out the obvious.
It's like, you see where this is going, right, and
then three weeks later it goes there.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, That's what my favorite things of the show is
when you know, we point out the obvious and then
pat ourselves on the back of our prescience when it
goes exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
And it's yeah, to the point now where I'm not
even thinking we're brilliant so much as it is everybody
else is just stupid. But that's where we're at. I'm see.
I don't know, it's like four or five months ago,
you know, AI, maybe a little bit earlier, it was like,
(42:32):
oh man, somewhere down the road, this is going to
take a turn off. Somewhere down the road, this is
going to be. We're getting there so fast. In my
mind now is how the hell are we going to
adapt to this for the sake of survival? Because of
the speed at which we're doing.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
This, I think, you know how we always kind of
just gloss over when we're read when we're doing the
trades looking for content for the show, Signings with agents
because it's really irrelevant and who the fuck cares? I
think I'm covering signing with Ai so too, that's gonna
(43:14):
be good for.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Their first.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
That's actually going to be. Yeah, there's a new movie
on the horizon and Chet, GPT and Sorrow are in
a bidding war to see who's gonna get cast in
the lead role. Yeah, basically, yeah, Yeah, it is, it is.
(43:38):
I'm just amazed, I guess at the whole thing, at
the speed of it, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, it was kind of like a Lady Jess macbeth
said the other day, anyone else getting tired of living
in this Biffs Stolen Sports Almanac universe?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm I'm yeah. It's how we deal with it, that's
gonna be the question how do we maintain humanity anymore?
But that's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Hell. Yeah, embrace nihilism.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Brad, I'm gonna have to. I think I'm just out
of survival. So do you have any other AI news.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Because no, you know what, I skipped a lot of
it because I just didn't want this to be all AI.
But since we're talking about oppressiance, we can talk about
F One that'll do.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes. Yeah, we brought this up a while backward, the
movie F One That would be the racing circuit out
of Europe, the big one there, the movie based on that,
starring Brad Pitt. I was gonna call it a moderate hit,
but it turned out overseas did really well, and as
(44:56):
a result, talked about how there were all these ancillary
rollover benefits for the circuit. The circuit itself was already successful.
It's not like the movie put them on the map.
But they're like, holy crap, this is even better than
we thought. They figured free advertising, but no, it's been
(45:17):
like a boom for their industry. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
The number of F one fans, Uh, The age of
thirty five and over has tripled since then.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's the part that I find surprising. Yeah, because you
would have thought maybe it would have been.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
That's what important entry on it yeah, I would have
thought it was yet, but you know what I mean,
a lot of that age group, you know, it's like
at fifty, I still remember the golden age of F
one with Nigel Mansel and Air and Senna and the like.
So you know a lot of early millennials were in
that time frame two, so a lot of them could
(45:59):
be hitting this solgia while introducing you know, because I
mean it was a lot bigger in the USNN than
it is today. It would actually be on the deuce
if not ESPN.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
And they you know that, I mean from just here Stateside,
TV contracts and everything have gone away up. That's been
very beneficial, they say. On the circuit itself, it's been
a monstrous success. Which that's the part that's the prib.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, I mean this is spotting a Netflix docuseries and
everything else too, not just with the fan reaction to it,
but the rebirth of you know, F one racing itself. Yeah,
even as in Martin's marketing branches, you know, they're reaching
out to do collabse with everybody.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Now, yeah, that's been one. It has been taking place
to a degree, and that is where you know, Hollywood
and others would reach out and try to get sponsorship
on one of the cars on a specific race, maybe
right ahead of a movie release, because that would then
appeal to the European audience. That's getting even bigger now.
(47:19):
It's like being developed. It's it's one where they need
to be in bed with the teams as opposed to
slapping a couple of stickers on the outside of the
car for a weekend. They're actually partners now.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Well yeah, and they're teaming up with Toy Story there, Yeah,
Toy Story and you know, doing uh Asta Martin helmets, hoodies,
many buzz light years. You know, it's just getting insane
with you know, the marketing. I mean, they're reaching for
ship that hasn't been relevant in decades, but everybody's you know,
(47:55):
digging into it again.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Well, that's the thing is, it's probably because it's such
an established circuit that the older product becomes more entrenched
as a result. Now they're saying that's it's like, oh,
if F one is doing it, then it's really serious
as opposed to just like some kind of one off,
one hit promo. And just the scope of it, I
(48:23):
think is what really gets me that they're getting this
deep into the partnership side, and so it's not you know,
Toy Story six will be on the car this weekend.
It's Disney is now part of this. Yeah, and so
you're gonna see multiple things. And it's cross marketing too.
Now Disney will be producing F one related products as well.
(48:47):
And I don't know that anybody saw this coming to
this degree.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
No, I you know, I always thought that F one
had you know, the Formula one had seen as Heyday
and it was just gonna be you know, while it'll
have you know, it's placed in sports bars in America,
will largely and you know, when it occasionally comes to
America with a few races here, it'll largely be a
European thing, you know, because they tried to tap into
(49:12):
it in Iron Man two and everybody's, yeah, that's cool,
but that's very eurocentric.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Well that's the other thing though. I believe it is
because they've reached into America like they have, Like did
they put on a race here in Miami, also in
Vegas and in Austin Texas where it used to be
every single country had its own dedicated race, you know,
the Grand Prix of Canada.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Though, But now yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Don't even know how they title the various races here
in the States because they've got three. So it's not
the Grand Prix of Mexico, it's not the Grand Prix
of the US. It's like the Miami Grand Prix, the
Texas Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
All right, Yeah, I remember playing the You the f
One game is back in the nineties, you know, on
saying and ship you'd have like Indy would open as
an option, but almost all the tracks were uk mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah. Different animal than our own Indy Cars to a degree.
But the very fact that they're coming into the States
like this has to be regarded as a threat to
Indy Cars and to see this level of success, maybe
the US Open Wheel Circuit kind of missed an opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I think that they did. I mean, you know, they
tried to touch. Yeah, they they made an.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Attempt, because I don't I'm trying to think, like, who
comes out of the IndyCars circuit that's a big name.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Right, I can't think of a name since Stanica Patrick.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah she did yeah, and she was hot. I get it.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
She was hot and did the go Daddy commercials and yeah,
So I mean, prove us wrong chat. Throw a name,
any name without googling, I'm sure somebody.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, well I've got to speaking of Europe, how about
that for a SEGUEE can we can jump on into
one that I've been uniquely covering this past week, and
that is the British broadcasting company going through some severe
(51:44):
turmoil right now. Damn. And of course this only becomes
better because even though it's a British media company, America's
foremost media mogul, CNN's Brian Stelter has been all over
(52:04):
this thing. I'm cracking up at this. His his involvement
with this story has meet to the point of wondering
if he's not an investor somehow.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
He is strangely laser focused on this, more so than
with the CBS lawsuits, more so with his own CNN lawsuits.
He is on.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
This like, well, I can tell you definite.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Son, cake, I don't know I came up.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I can't come up with an analogy regarding the.
Speaker 6 (52:40):
Guys watching South Korean camping.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yes, there we go.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
But Stelter didn't want to even touch the CNN lawsuit.
You would think a guy whose entire career is based
on covering the media, the biggest media story in his
own house. Nope. I think when they got sued for
defamation and found libel in court, CNN put out a
(53:08):
solitary digital article on it that maybe ran about five
hundred words, very perfunctory. It's just settled out of court.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
And that was it, very lawyer esque.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
And I think he mentioned it in his newsletter. Here's
our article on that event. And that was it. But
what happened is this that we're talking about, is it's
it's actually concerning a documentary that BBC put out a
year ago, and it was all about Donald Trump. Came
(53:46):
out three or four days before the election itself, and
all about his second term and what could happen and
of course doom and gloom. Well, in the course of
this documentary, they were replaying his speech that he gave
on January sixth in DC that morning, and people began noticing, hey,
(54:10):
wait a second, I don't remember him saying that or
quite in that fashion. And pretty much it was Donald
Trump saying, listen, I got your backs, I'm on your side. People.
Now we have to go to the Capitol and we
have to fight like hell and be like wait what
(54:31):
and so what took place here was the BBC taking
the entirety of his speech, which ran about one hundred
ten minutes minutes, I know, it was like an hour
fifteen minutes something like that. They actually did a cut
and paste job. So he was talking in a segment about,
(54:51):
you know, we need to back everybody at the Capitol
that's you know, fighting on our behalf, and we have
to support them and even use the words we have
to do so peacefully and patriotically and lend them more support.
And then in a later segment an hour into this speech,
he was talking about going forward, you know, in the country,
(55:12):
and people are gonna be opposed to us, but we
can't packed how we got to fight like hell and
stand for a ground. And they put those two pieces
together an hour apart, and on the playback of the documentary.
When the edit on the audio came up, they did
an edit on the video as well, so you see
Trump speaking live, and then they cut to other footage
while the audio kept playing uncut. Absolute hatchet shot, absolute
(55:42):
ethical breach of the highest order when it comes to journalism.
So this got revealed about a week ago, even though
it's a year old documentary and people are saying well wait, why,
hum what? And as this came to light, it became scandalous.
And then last weekend two of the top executives at
the BBC actually resign over this major stuff. And as
(56:07):
we said, Brian Stelter has been on it. I've seen
him on at least two different segments on CNN. He
appeared on the BBC I don't like Tuesday or Wednesday
of this week, and then I think last night he
was on PBS, still going on about this. And all
(56:31):
you need to know what level of bullshit he's selling
here is he keeps hyping on the edit and he's
called it a misstep, he's called it an editing error. No,
this was a hit. This was intentional. The manner in
which they cut the audio and then they did the
(56:51):
edit of the video to hide it. This was all
intentional and malicious. But yeah, did you see the reason
why this was coming up? It was actually about two
Mondays ago, about ten days ago.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
I didn't actually see what started the firestorm. I just
know that it all of a sudden, it was all
over and has continued to be all over my feet.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
There was an internal investigation that took place at the
BBC they actually studied broadcast on the network for a
couple of years and turned this. It was an internal study,
internal review of their journalism practices, a laundry list of problems.
(57:47):
So much of their coverage of the Israel Gaza war.
I mean, I've covered in my column numerous times where
the BBC had to walk back comments or make corrections
on the air a story, repeat you lost if he
was in error, and we need to corrupt things because
of our journalism standards. Yeah, they've done that repeatedly.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
They had the world the truth got held up in traffic.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Like one of their primary correspondents was found to have
put out grossly inaccurate information that was spoon fed to
him by Hamas and even when he got caught and
called out on it, still defended them. Oh they're you know,
they're still the most right source for information coming out
of the region.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
You simple coming out of Pollywood.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
And then in this internal document they even noted that.
And I wasn't even aware that this existed. But I'm
not socked. But on on the BBC standard network they
would report on stories in the Middle East in a
certain way, but over at what they have BBC Arabic.
(59:03):
They would report on the same incidents completely different fashion,
right pro Gaza, pro Hamas, pro this or that, Like
they would do the stand by, side by side of
the same story. This is how it was a BBC
this is BBC Arabic, and it would be one hundred
and eighty degrees out of face right and on a I.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
Mean, that's not unique to them, but I know I've
talked about it frequently. I remember during yeah, the the
War on Terror, I was a graveyard bartender. I'd be
watching you know, the live in beds overnight on Fox,
and then I'd wait, go to bed, wake up in
the afternoon, watch the news and be like, am I
even watching the same war? This is when my distrust
(59:51):
for the media was born, sometime around two thousand and two.
I mean I always had a healthy distrust for it,
but that was just why developed open contempt.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
That was the birth of orty cynicism. Yes, well, the
the amazing thing is this isn't even the only documentary
controversy that this study had found, because and I covered
this big time. In February there was another documentary the
(01:00:20):
BBC put out and it was like a day in
the life of children of Gaza.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I remember this.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Camera crews are following the kids around and you know,
they're in rubble strewn streaks and they have to scramble
for food here and there and more torn areas and
their life is impacted. And the BBC even touted this
as their own production, like we did this and we're
very proud of our expose a what the life in
(01:00:50):
Gaza is like. And as this came out, people started
looking at it and they're like, wait, a damn second,
that kid. I know that kid where I know him from. Oh,
he's the son of one of Hamas's top for whatever,
their military branker. That's their son. And then the other
(01:01:12):
kids were all connected as well to other Hamas members.
The cameraman was found out to be a supporter of
Hamas M and so then the BBC started to issue corrections.
It's like, well, we needed to there are some things
we didn't alert you to. We have to point this out.
And then it became well, yeah, it turns out we
(01:01:33):
we we didn't. We didn't make this. It was made
by another production company. We just sanctioned to put it
on the air. Was it us? Was it not our fault?
And then it got so bad that again another internal
study was done. This went all the way up into
British Parliament as to how in the hell did this
(01:01:53):
get on there to the point that they had to
take it down. Now it's gone.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Because remember BBC is government broadcasting. It is, yes, yeah,
it's it's it's a little deeper than PBS relations And
don't forget in the UK you have to have a
license to have a television anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, and when they say license, it's you pay a tax,
which means you are paying for the BBC, right, and
this is commonplace throughout europ bag this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, but it'd be like you're being taxed to watch
PBS while being taxed to find the PBS.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
And I think this is part of the reason why
Stelter is so passionate about this story, because he doesn't
want to see the BBC go through what NPR and
PBS just went through being defunded. And again, I mean,
we can do probably eighteen shows and not cover everything
involving Stellelter. But all right, this is a guy that
(01:03:03):
loves to teut how the media holds our government responsible.
They're the Chuck Vell, They're the fourth of state. Okay,
but Brian, they can't be that if they're being paid
by the state, right, as we've seen from PBS over
the years, and.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
For the state is to the air of the fifth column.
Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, yeah, Aggie loves to use that analogy. It's yeah.
I mean, there's absolutely zero reason anybody in the media
should be taking government funding, period. And Gavin Newsom, of course,
just started the program in your state where they're subsidizing
news outlets. Yes, gee, I wonder what that's gonna do
to the coverage of his administration.
Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
You know. The one thing I know is that they're
really mad at CACR and the Sacramento NBC affiliate, So
I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
What they do.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Well, No, I mean you'll see, I mean, I know
you follow Jennifer van Lauren. She retweets I'm drawing a
blank on the reporter's name right now, But she was
on the whole epitus of Prop fifty like a dog
on a bone. Well, who drew the maps? Where the
maps come from? You know, you just and Casey ra A,
they're fairly fair, you know, of all the news outlets
(01:04:27):
in California, I'll take their word over. You know, they're
they're fairly fair when it comes to California politics. So
I and I know, having that like hometown reporting constantly
up your ass because this reporter is the one that
win people on in California Assembly see her coming. She's
the old ship reporter because they know she's got some
(01:04:49):
shit on you and if she's coming to talk to you,
you better have your shit straight.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's Did you see him? This is
the side story. But on the Mom Donnie election night,
you probably saw this where some asshole photographer from the
New York Times was slamming the one reporter that was
actually working that night because she was hanging on She
(01:05:20):
was hanging on the shoulder of Hassan Piker and just
you know, waiting to see what insane thing about communism
he was gonna spout off. And then this guy said,
oh man, you know, three hundred reporters in her room
and you see him all avoiding one. You know what's
going on.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
M H was like, the journal is Ashley Zavala, uh
at zavalia A check her out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
She's awesome anyway, Yeah, she's a I think she's from
the free press. If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Uh she's uh no, casey a news out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Of I mean oh that one, yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah, sorry, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah that they sounds similar. That's why I brought it up,
is because it sounds like when she comes in and
actually starts performing journalism, all the other quote journalists get upset, right,
It's like, why are you doing that? That's so ikey?
Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yeah, what is that? Is that? Journal ew? That's like
SPJ stuff society professional ew ethics. Yeah, so anyway, BBC
had an error of judgment.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, this is yeah, and then this is just ongoing
and this is why Stelter is all about it. So,
like one of his arguments this week, he keeps harping
on the editing error. It was the myths that he
was an accident. You know. He actually said the balance
of the documentary was very good. It's like, oh, so
(01:06:56):
it was a mostly accurate documentary, is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Mostly peaceful.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I mean, I'm I'm of the opinion since I cover
both the media and Hollywood. Generally, documentaries are supposed to
be even more accurate because of you know, time spent
research put into it, you know the length of it,
the breadth of the reporting. They're supposed to be kind
of definitive, Brian.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
So when you come up with documentary, there are two
document like literally the rest of.
Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
It was good. Yeah, I'm just you know.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
It's like talking about your job. Well the hours are good,
but most of the actual minutes are pretty lousy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Just and the way he keeps just pimping for them,
It's like, I gotta protect the BBC. I'm gonna die
on this hill. I gotta do it, gotta gotta get
out there and pump this. And it's that's the last
guy you want in your corner. Sorry, he's not helping
your BBC. I'm just saying, but I've just had to
laugh at like this flood of other journalists that have
(01:08:07):
come out this week.
Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
The baby sees the most trustworthy news. And this is
what upsets the people on the right. All these conservatives
are upset with us because you're lying your ass off.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I mean, they try to pretend that. And that's the
other trips Stelter's trying to play here. You know, Conservatives
keep attacking them, people on the right keep criticizing the BBC.
Oh for noticing is that is that the problem Brian
that we picked up on the lies is that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Okay, yeah, so you notice going Asterns.
Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Republicans pounce once again, and and then he's out there
fighting and saying, you know, the overriding problem is the
funding and the decoupling possibly from British government, which is
the ultimate goal of those on the right. Well, all right,
how about this get your shit straight. It wouldn't be
a problem just gonna say. I mean, maybe if you
(01:09:08):
didn't light your ass off, people wouldn't be so concerned
about you lying your ass off. You see how that works, right,
But it's pure comedy anymore because they've been caught. And
again it's not this one documentary, this one edit. This
was one entry in a journal that was turned in
to BBC management of how many times we're screwing up
(01:09:31):
on a regular basis. I think one of the measures
they talked about on the news reporting side of things,
how many errors they came up with, and it totaled
out to be something like two factual errors for every
day that they broadcast the news.
Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
That's that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
And this is what I'm saying is it's like this
is an old one off It's not like, Okay, you
caught us this one time. It's like, no, there's a
telephone book size journal they just turned in of problems.
They don't want to adjust the problems though. This is
the common thread I see throughout the press. They don't
want They'll say there's a problem, Fixing it the last
thing they want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
All right, That's what it always comes back here. I mean,
that's why CBS and everybody is in such vapors about
CBS right now. Oh my god, they might actually do journalism.
That means we're gonna have to do journalism. Fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Well, this is what I'm seeing that since Barry Wis
took control is every so often they're an interview where
they actually ask a Democrat a tough question. The democrat
looks offended. The resident people in the press start wailing
about it. It's like Shire's turning us into Maga by
(01:10:57):
asking a question. Is that what you're saying? You know,
the CBS Morning Show a few days ago, they actually
dared ask a Democrat like, you know, how how come
you keep saying you guys didn't shut it down when
you're voting. No, Oh my god, you're not supposed to
say that out loud pretty much the reaction mm hmm staggering,
(01:11:19):
But okay, we don't want to learn then go with it?
Oh rather right, Well, do you want to turn some
attention to Hollywood movies about.
Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Yeah, if there's if there's a if there's an industry
that's more icky than Hollywood, it's the news media. So
let's cleanse ourselves in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah. They like to say that the Hollywood is upstream
of culture than politics. So I guess the water is
supposed to be fresher, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Slightly lest giardia.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yeah, might not need to pour the water over so
much charcoal before drinking.
Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
The last few years, Brendan Frasier has just kind of
reformulated his career. I think he's got another movie coming out.
It's like what Rental Family, Family Rental or such, where
he's looks like he's over in Japan and spending time
with one of the local families there, and it's an uplifting,
heartfelt drama. Oscar Bait is what you're saying, got it?
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Oscar ban Yeah, I mean there's really only two ways
to do a movie like that in Japan. You're either
doing mister Baseball or Oscar Bait.
Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah, I'll go with that. And this one is again
Oscar Bay. A couple of years ago he won for
the Whale, where he played a grossly corporate individual and
the life he went through. But this is kind of
where he's at now, where he's playing these very grounded,
serious roles. He's looking a little plumper these days. I'm
(01:13:07):
not going to knock the guy. He's older. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I only bring all this up because Paramount has announced
they want to go back to the well with the
Mummy movies and bring him and Rachel Weize.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Back, which you know, I'm not mad at it. I'm
not mad at it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I'm not either.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I mean, after The Scorpion King, how could you be?
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah, boy, talk about a movie that needed ai yikes man, But.
Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
The practical effects and the thing were infinitely better than
anything that was in The Scorpion King.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Oh that that movie was unwatchable when it came out,
and watching it today is oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah? Is that good for camp?
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Looks like the animated Man. Yeah, but yeah, they want
to go go back to that successful franchise. And I
just saying, I mean he's probably going to have to
take on the role of, you know, overseeing a younger archaeologist.
(01:14:19):
Is that what we want to call it?
Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Thrill seekert as long as they don't do it like
fucking Crystal Skull, because Universal has not had a lot
of luck dipping back into the well with the Dark Universe.
Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Mm hmm. Well, they they gave Tom Cruise the Mantle
to try to bring back the Dark Universe to begin
with the Mummy, and it ended with the Mummy. Yeah,
there were They had all the dreams that they were
(01:14:54):
going to bring back of Frankenstein and bring back a Mummy,
and bring back the.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
U and Swamp. Yeah, the whole Dark Universe, all of
them had a slot and all of them were canceled
before the second weekend of Tom Cruise's Mummy being out.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I mean, it was all plotted out. They were doing this.
They had their own universe built up, and they were
gonna rival Marvel and it was all gonna happen, and
then the Mummy came out. H I will say though,
and I think there's what three Frankenstein's coming out and
(01:15:35):
within a matter of months, But there's one on Netflix
by Gaormul del Toro and that's pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Interesting, right, Yeah, that one looks all right, Yeah, that
one looks a lot like Frankenstein Unbound. I think it
was uh god, I can't even remember who was in that,
but it was pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
He's being very faithful to the book, very much a
period piece, and uh I watched I'm Able to Squead
He's in like twenty minutes a while ago, and it's
pretty interesting. Visuals are pretty good special effects and such,
So give that a whirl if you're into such. But yeah,
the Paramount wants to bring it back, so I don't
(01:16:14):
I'm just trying to imagine what direction you're going in,
because when Fraser was in that franchise, initially he was
very much the action hero.
Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
M Yeah, I mean both Mommy and Mummy returned. Between him,
they made four hundred million, which in early two thousand,
you know, late nine, nineteen ninety nine, two thousand numbers
is pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, that definitely paid off for them. I
just don't know he's gonna have to be a mentor,
is the way I'm looking at this. Yeah, yeah, I
just don't think he's got the physical chaps to do
the same stuff, so he's probably gonna be you know,
like riding along and then staying in the car while
the other guy goes out and actually does the fighting.
Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna interrupt again a second. Yeah, The Mummy,
it made four hundred and seventeen million dollars on an
eighty million dollar budget.
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Yep, that's pure profit right there.
Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Yeah, that's just that's cold. I mean that was striking
hot with Brandon Fraser being at his peak at the
time racial wise. Yeah, so that was just that was
plus great visual effects, good story, you know, the things
we used to love.
Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Yeah, you mean the quality. I think that's the word
you're going for. Yeah, imagine that.
Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
I forgot what that word was. What's the opposite of despair?
Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Well, the I know, it's just something we've been talking
about for the last few episodes, and it's there's this
kind of a darth of content out there in Hollywood
in this weekend coming up. I mean we're one away
from Thanksgiving weekend and the only thing on the radar
is the remake of The Running Man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Which really I've seen maybe one one sheet on and
a commercial not really not really blown up the media tour.
From what I've seen, You're at a bigger you might
(01:18:39):
see more of it than I do.
Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Very little. Yeah, you're right, it's not you know, like
I'm just over the weekend. You would think this is
you know, male action. What's that ties during football? Not
so much.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Nope, weird.
Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
So this one stars Glenn Powell and it's, uh, this
is supposed to be even truer to the Stephen King
book than the Arnold Schwarzenegger original film.
Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
The Running Man, which is talking it up.
Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Like it could be interesting. I like scroll through a
bunch of the reviews and basically it's and I'm reading
the reviews, it's like, wow, this is probably gonna get
like about a sixty percent, sixty five percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
That is right at sixty four.
Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Yeah, basically right now.
Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Common theme is like, not fantastic, but it's a good
popcorn movie. You'll have fun, good acting in it, there's
some decent action. It's enjoyable enough. You know, it's like
all this kind of qualified, like I'm not supposed to
like this, but it was okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
The main consensus quoting from Rotten Tomatoes is Kah spiritedly
sprinting through grim source material. Edgar Wrights. The Running Man
doesn't live up to the director's high bar for inventive
action extravaganzas, but maintains a slick stride.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, they're almost he's slumming, but put out a good product.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
I mean, Josh Brolin's in it, so that should be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah, but it's not Baby Driver. That's that, That's what
we wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Yeah, I really hope, I really hope he's the one
who's reprising Ronnie Cox's character in it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Mm hmmm, well it's uh, it's got a pretty decent chance,
only because there's not a lot of competition out there
right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
None.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I mean to nail it before Wicked to come out
for Thanksgiving. That's why I can't believe they did a
sequel to that.
Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Well, I guess, but that this is what the big Thanksgiving.
I mean, you gotta remember Thanksgiving is the peak, the
opening of the holiday season. This is when the winter
blockbusters start to hit. This is the you know, not
(01:21:29):
just the holiday movies, but just I mean, if I
remember right, Star Wars was released in the around Christmas,
I mean Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Well, I want to have check on something here.
Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Because okay, yeah, you you fire up your Google food,
let us know what you got going on.
Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
No, I haven't heard, and I'm pretty sure. No, it's
got to be Wicked, because usually the first the weekend
of Thanksgiving, I should say, is Disney's animated rollout. Mhm,
I mean that's their slot. That's when Malana.
Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Comes out, and that's what Disney.
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
And see. Yeah, O, Wicked's coming out the twenty first,
so let's see. Okay, maybe then there is Utopias too.
I alright called it that's coming out. Oh that's why
it was on Wednesday. I should have thought of that. Okay,
so everything's right, everybody can calm down. Disney does have
(01:22:35):
a computer animated movie on Thanksgiving. Thankful.
Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
I have to ask a question, since you guys like
the bet and wager things, will Wicked be out to
streaming before we do our Wizard of Oz radio play?
Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Probably I'm gonna I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna say that. No,
that would I mean, depending upon how close you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I don't think, cause no.
Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
That'll be just in time for uh, that'll be just
in time for streaming.
Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I'm gonna say no, I think they're going to carry
it through Christmas and then have it hit streaming just
in time for award season, so it'll get pimped out there. Well,
what's the date on the radio show.
Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
Let's see, looking at most likely the twelfth or the nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Yeah, all right, if it's the twelfth, definitely not nineteen.
I'm gonna still say no. I think they want it
in theaters for Christmas. They could just suck as much
blood out of people as they can and then probably
go streaming around January mid January.
Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I'm gonna throw a qualifier in here. My bet they're
gonna go there. They will go stream for Christmas, but
it's not going to be free. They're not just going
to do that. So they're gonna they'll premium it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Right, so you could watch it in home for nineteen
dollars plus the singalong version with karaoke lyrics included. Uh huh,
because apparently that was the big thing with the first release,
people going and performing in their seats in the theater.
Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Shoot me, now, yeah, I I that's that's my take.
That's my bet. It's going to be on streaming by
the nineteenth, but not free streaming.
Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Because it's a good bad a good bet.
Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Yeah, they that way, go with it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I'll uh you know, I'll lay the chalk for first
or second week of January.
Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Okay, that's just my take, all.
Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Right, Oh, what do we got left here? What do
we got? We're all over the map, Like we said.
Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
There's what we got that we got a hot ticket
on Hulu right now.
Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Ah. I was just pulling that up. That would crack
me up. Not that I'm a fan of it or
anything of the sort, but the Secret Lives of what
Swinging Mormon Wives is that?
Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Yeah, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
And uh this this is basically Disney slash Hulu's version
of the Housewives of Beverly Hills, Housewives of every other
city known to man whatever, m I see it come
up when I you know, the few I'm probably getting
rid of Hulu sou just because I got so many
(01:25:55):
damn channels now, but I'm watching a few other things
is on there at the moment, and this will come
up on occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
It's like really, wow, really turns out third season of
this is coming up. They could not be more excited
at Hulu.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Yeah, because this.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Is the highest rated program on the platform, and I
love a deadline where they they put in the qualifier
even better ratings than the Kardashians, though Disney doesn't want
to admit it. Yeah, I guess not, huh yeah, because
(01:26:40):
it's just general to get a little cranky. But somehow
this is actually I guess they said it was almost
as sure to be a hit because in season one
there was a scandal with some of the wives because
they got caught up in swinging and found out about it.
And you know, I just have to laugh because they
(01:27:02):
said that they kind of break formula because unlike the
other Housewives show where people go out drinking and breaking
out in the fights, these are Mormons, so they don't
drink alcohol and they don't even drink soda or coffee
because they can't have caffeine.
Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
But everything else is the same.
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
So they can go and raw dog in a hotel
with a bunch of strangers and that's okay what you're saying.
But they're I'm just trying to pick up on the
Mormon through line here where the standards come in to play.
Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
But got it, got it all right?
Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
So yeah, this is this is the big hit on
on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Mhmm, you know I missed the days of the Great
British Baking Show.
Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah, well, sorry, Chris Jenner. After how many freaking decades
have you been on TV? You're kind of being replaced,
kind of sort of.
Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
But in the coverage, two was noting that most of
these reality housewives shows were dying off because cable is
a dying entity.
Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Right, I mean, who even talks about Bravo anymore? And
that's where it all began.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Yeah, you know, yet Bravo was the one channel that
Comcast Universal hung on.
Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Too weird, probably for that series.
Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
But apparently the The Mormon Swinging Housewives is is a
big hit for Disney Hulu, so m Chris Jenner has
to take the silver medal. I guess yeah. I think
as an indicator of just how much streamers are struggling.
(01:28:46):
They're just trying to get any kind of traction where
they can. But we are at the tops.
Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Are so fucking high during COVID, just leading into COVID
with quality and content that they they kind of shot
their wad because nothing is grabbing me. Well, they had
no I guess I'll go subscribe to Apple TV for sorry,
(01:29:19):
Apple Plus or no it's Apple TV. Now, I guess
I'll go subscribe to Apple TV and binge that. Nope,
not even worth it. I'll go back and watch a
show I've watched five times from the nineties. Because everything sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I am gonna uh probably, I don't know, maybe tonight
I whant to start doing it. I do have the
new season of Slow Horses I gotta dig into. Okay,
I'm partial to that one. Gary Oldman is awesome. Gotta
do it. Yeah, But yeah, otherwise it's like, oh crap,
that's right, it's on Apple Plus. Guess what I have
to get again for fourteen days. But but yeah, the streamers,
(01:30:01):
they had a captive audience and kind of instead of
maximizing things, they kind of got lazy, it seems like,
because now they're all struggling. I don't know who's got
the massive hit out there that you just have to
see beyond Netflix. Speaking of looking at the niels and numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, that is the best
segue you have ever done. Brad Well.
Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I've been boning up on my latin, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
And bone.
Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Phrasing kind of reflective of what we're seeing in theaters.
There's not a lot of diversity going on here. Pretty
much it's Netflix and only Netflix, with few incursions that
we'll see. So Number one, on the original side of things,
we got Monster, the Ed Guyn story, and then Love
(01:30:54):
is Blind all one hundred and twenty two episodes of it.
Number two the dip the map is I think that
season two plus the season one I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Yeah, that's twenty two episodes, so yeah, eleven episode slate
on the first season. Maybe ten episodes slate on the
first season, so yeah, that's season one and two. These
top three nothing broke a billion minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah, what's going on there? Maybe I don't football season,
but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
That's odd, right, But even then that should be reflected
in the streaming.
Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I have no idea about.
Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Boots, none, no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
What that is doesn't register, doesn't register. But over a
paramount plus Tulsa King that hits it in the top
of the how about that? And Cody?
Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
I wish I was here for the one time that
I'm not bagging on The Great British Banking Show. Yes
it is bad, and The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
I'm sorry, I'll take the wholesome entertainment.
Speaker 6 (01:32:11):
Were you fasesis on your understanding of what boots is?
Or were you telling the truth?
Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
I'm serious.
Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
So it's on Netflix?
Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
Bullied gay teen Cameron joins the Marine Corps with his
best friend despite risk in boot camp, they experienced profound
personal change amid danger as their platoon confronts both literal
and figurative land mindes.
Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Didn't we just make fun of this last episode?
Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
I actually hate you, Jeff, for informing me about this. Yes,
I have to rush out and.
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Not actually think I actually think that we made fun
of that on the last episode and immediately repressed.
Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
It because I'm yeah, I mean, and by all indications,
it's gonna be blank once again.
Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I know this has come up in a topic of
conversation somewhere. I don't know if it was here, if
it was on Rick and already.
Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
But yeah, I'm gonna pleading ignorance because nah, okay, Jeff
just read that to me, and all I could really
pictures Jesse Plemmons and fatigues in the red glasses from
Civil War? What what kind of American?
Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Yeah? But that you know it also kind of reminds
me of when you and Paul did Independence Day two
and it was about eighty percent through the show when
I realized, holy fuck, I've seen this movie.
Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Yeah. Same, It's that happens frequently, all right. Hulu manages
to hit with murders in the building and then people
are getting ready for the return of Stranger Things. They're
watching that. When's they still on? And Miss Rachel? What
they actually moved that on? The Netflix? Didn't know that?
Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Well? There it is from uh with only eight episodes. Yeah,
so is Wednesday actually out now?
Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
I believe so? Yes, I think yeah, I think our
last episode it was just premiering.
Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Okay, we're just but yeah, because I coudn't that, so
I'll re up my Netflix for that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I'm wondering why Miss Rachel isn't considered an acquired series.
Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
I don't think, you know, we kind of skipped over
the YouTube story where they're getting into uh late night
television now live late night television and.
Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
One.
Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Yeah, but I think it's because the same reason why
three years ago or before COVID, nobody took Netflix seriously
as a TV studio, and now they are TV or
movie studio, and now they are dominating the awards shows.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Oh yeah, and they're gonna get the live too, So
I think YouTube is like, well, we better get on
that train. Yeah yeah, so we'll see if that stuff
comes up. Got another one that's blank here on the
acquired series. Poul Dark is number one.
Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Forty three episodes. Have never heard of the fucking thing
inside Netflix? Jeff, help us out.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I'm gonna say foreign production.
Speaker 6 (01:35:36):
That's actually what I haven't heard yet.
Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Okay, you go on, I'll fire up the Google machine.
Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Sure, well, then we got it. Of course, ncis Gray's Anatomy, Bob's, Burger's, Bluey, SpongeBob,
all the usual ones are on here, Big Bang Theory,
Law and Order, no shock or outside of number one,
So yeah, we need answers and over.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
That is a British historical drama called It based on
the novel. It was originally on the BBC in seventy
five through seventy seven. Plot Overview and seventeen eighty three,
Captain ross ven Or Poldark returns from the American Revolutionary
(01:36:21):
War to his home of Napara in Cornwall after three
years in the army. If on returned home, he discovers
his father, Joshua's died, his estate is in ruins and
in considerable debt, and his childhood sweetheart Elizabeth is engaged
to his cousin Francis.
Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
There we go, yeah, won't be won't be stampeding to
that one? All right. On the movie side, we've got
The Perfect Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
It's ten years old. Okay, sorry, go ahead, it.
Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Must have just come on. Then The Woman in Cabin
ten also on Netflix. Peacock is on there with How
to Train the Dragon. Vacation, the A Team movie has
moved to Netflix after what fifteen years? Then they got
some Maze Runners, they get the John Candy documentary and
(01:37:15):
then play Dirty on Prime.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
So overall vacation is that the National Lampoon's vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
No vacation? Where were oh?
Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Number five? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Number five? It might be?
Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Got a forty year old movie that must have just
been released.
Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
And then overall, as we said, nobody hit a billion.
So we've got the Ed Guynes story number one, Paul
Dark number two, Sure Love is Blind, The Diplomat is
on their NCIS cuts in Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Boots, Boots Perfect Now.
Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
K Pop Demon Hunters, and then Bob's Burger's all right,
that's gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Okay, See I want to. I wanted this to prove
a point to that dude who had his first gay
rom com that America is homophobic because nobody went to
go see his movie eight episodes number seven gay content.
How about if you make a good movie, sport, just
put it out there.
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Take that Billy Hiker. Oh god, oh god.
Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
They can't do that episode because I was not gonna
make it.
Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
So uh no, they found out what vacation is. It's
a next generation reboots starring Clark Griswold's son Rusty.
Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Jesus fucking Christ did anybody ask for that?
Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Is this a TV show or movie? Movie? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
I call it a movie?
Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Who's playing Rusty?
Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Is that the one with that helms? Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Okay, okay, yeah that was like ten years old.
Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
They came out in theaters, yeah a while back and failed.
Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
Okay, yeah, okay, no, I remember we talked about it,
so it was definitely a pre COVID production.
Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Mm hmm, all right, well I think that's gonna wrap
it for us. So Orty, why don't you let people
know where they can find more of your content?
Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Well, that's a fantastic question. Giving everything that's going on
this week, maybe Saturday night on Juck's position, we'll see
how Rick's doing. He's uh, everybody to keep him in
your prayers. He's got some family stuff going on. Sunday
I will be on the Visit Charles Project almost call
it experience. That's the old show. Then next week Wednesday
(01:39:45):
with Rick and Orty and that's and you can find
me on X thanks to X on Twitter. Unfucking the
problem they had yesterday where millions of people got stuck
in a security key loop that nobody actually has a
security anyway, whatever, TUFA pro I'm back on Twitter. You
can find me as orders packerd there and surprisingly yes,
(01:40:08):
still how about you where people find you and your
fantastic hair birthday boy.
Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I am seen daily over at town hall dot com.
I got a media column called Riff from the Headlines
also on the front page of Red State, where I've
also got a twice weekly media podcast called Liable Sources,
and here on this network. So next Thursday I'll be
here with Paul Young from Screen Ramp on Disasters in
the Making and Tuesday evenings with Aggie on the Cocktail
(01:40:36):
Lounge and if you need more of me over a
jitter at Martini Shark, all right, gonna be I think
we're gonna be a little bit of a hitch because
of a holiday coming up, we may not do our
next episode.
Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Huh uh. That is a good question.
Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
To land on Turkey Day, if I'm not mistaken, So
it is you might have.
Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Yes, because we are not ones to pre record. Our
news is fresh, just like the turkey you'll be eating
that day.
Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Well, then we'll see everybody in December as it was
here on the Culture Shift.
Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
El hyder mm hmmmmmmm
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