The Culture Shift: End of Award Season

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Speaker 2 (00:56):
What is going on k l r N Land. This
is the night, which means it is your early introduction
to the weekend. This is the culture shift. How's everybody doing?
I'm Brad Slager getting ready to guide you through all
of the vital info needed in your infotainment backpack. However,
not traveling down the Hollywood Walk of Fame by myself,

(01:19):
because shoulders and shoulder with me on this venture every
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Are up here? Hey? Hey, Hey, I'm doing well.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's we are in the schizophrenic season out here in California.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
When are we not?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
But I have gone from seventy degrees last week to
snow today. So I'm awesome though, you know, because that's
how could I not be? I mean, I do a
podcast with the talent Brad Slager.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, and it's uh, it just must be that time.
I mean, I think tonight we're going down into the
fifties and then rebounding tomorrow at about eighty five. So
we're doing about the same kind of psychotic swing. But hey,
it's Florida. Who the hell's gonna notice? All right?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know that's one thing with you know, with a
golden state and with America's wang we I mean, you
guys don't get the snow, but we do have that
schizophrenic Is it winter, is it spring?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I don't know. Magnets, how do they work exactly? And
it's you know, we also balance each other out because
we are, you know, both in kind of mental ward
incubators that they are. I mean, California, of course, is
like a breakfast cereal. It's not fruits and nuts are flakes.

(02:44):
And then here, of course you got perpetual daily Florida
man psychosis. So it's just a matter of us surviving
and it makes us just stronger of character.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know, it makes us more apt for this show
because we are able to appreciate the absurd rather than
be baffled by it. Yes, and we're talking about Credo
Quia Absurdum, Hey, that's Latin.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
That's Latin. So it's yeah, this is a you know,
we're talking about kind of screwy weather. This is also
kind of a flux period of time in the entertainment
biz as well, because it's not quite blockbuster summer season
and we just wrapped up Awards season, so we're kind

(03:39):
of in a little bit of an entertainment lovel not
that there's not anything happening, but no, but it was
a little.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Bit harder to research tonight's show than it would be
any other given month or week or you know, well.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Basically, the two of us have got our tucks in
the cleaners now and we have to actually do some work,
could come up with content as supposed to what just
having it dumped in our laps, but we'll fight through it.
So yes, Sunday Night was the culmination of the penegurizing
season of Hollywood, where all they do is laud themselves

(04:16):
from about January first until today. So the Oscars took
place Sunday night. From what I hear, I don't know
that anybody cared. I mean literally for the week building
up to it, I didn't hear all that much. I
think it was like Thursday when I was like, wait
a second, is that this weekend? I was all caught

(04:39):
up in hockey and Nascar and other stuff, and it's like,
did we do the Oscars or is it companies? Oh, sunday, Okay,
got it, got it. That's a little.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I think that had a lot to do with what
we're going to be talking about later too. But in
a nutshell, the movie they wanted to really really just
show how progressive and in touch, and then you know,
and to use a lack of a better word, woke.
They all were became a little problematic, so they weren't

(05:12):
able to celebrate it like they wanted to, and there
was a muted reaction. Plus, I mean, I know you
noticed this two ten years ago. Our Twitter feeds would
be polluted with fashion takes, movie takes, you know, talking
about brand standing or whatever. Didn't see Dick, really. I

(05:36):
saw maybe a.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Couple tweets about it. It's it's yeah, normally you see
a crap ton of hashtags. It'll be you know, hashtag
Academy Awards, Oscars, Oscars twenty five, something of that nature.
I didn't hardly see any I did not see any
red carpet photos at all, like you said, and I
was watching something else and I had to actually go

(06:00):
on in search to get right some updates that were happening. Yeah,
there just was not any of the usual social media
attachment to this. And I mean I even have a
contingent of people that would you know, They're like, I
don't watch the Askers, but I love the red carpet
and the fashions. Didn't get much of that. Yeah, And
it was just noticeable. And like you and I, once

(06:21):
again preciant co hosts that we are, We've been talking
for a couple of weeks about how their beloved movie
Amelia reds Yeah, just crap in the bed, and we
talked about it, how Hollywood was trying to get away
from this movie that they were force feeding on us
since November. This's this thing you all have to watch. Okay,

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what is it? We were not talking about it now. Yeah,
it was pretty much like if you don't watch this movie,
you're hateful. And then by February it became you can't
talk about that movie or you're hateful. Yes, psychotics pick
a snow movie. So yeah, I covered his Monday over
at Red State where it was just so hilarious. How

(07:08):
now Emilia Perez was the darling, There's no way around it.
Came out of the cann Film Festival one awards there,
went to the Film Festival Circuit Toronto, Berlin, all of
those was winning all the accolades, and then by November Sundance,
everybody was just saying, you have to watch this movie.
It got I think ten nominations at the Golden Globes,

(07:31):
eleven at the BAFTAs, thirteen Academy Award nominations. This was
the lock of award season.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
It was supposed to be a sweep and to just
usher in a new era of transgenderism. And like the
somebody went and looked at a social media feed.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
The pretty much the post awards articles were written historic
and most wins for this international film, first one with
a transactress, first transactress to win an award. All of
that was pre set, and then the star of the
movie started to open her mouth.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh she had been He had been opening his mouth
all along, just somebody finally noticed it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, And I think what happened here was the LGBT
pie community really got in a tiff because they I
don't think they were either consulted or there was something
because around the time the nominations were locked in GLAD
and others were saying, this is an antagonistic movie towards us.

(08:47):
We don't like it, and I think we mentioned it
here the GLAD Awards, you know, they do their own
media awards. Not a single nomination for the film.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
No, and they actually panned it pretty bad to I mean,
they talked some ship on.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
It, and then we heard how insensitive it was to
Mexico because this was entirely said in Mexico, was entirely
in Spanish and a musical and everything else. In Mexicans
were saying, Okay, it stars a Dominican, a Puerto Rican
and they're not speaking our language, they're speaking Spanish, but

(09:22):
they all have different dialects, right, So they were offended
by that. So it was somehow cultural appropriation within the
Hispanic community, huh well.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Which was funny because I was that's like, you know,
payback for West Side, for the West Side Story remake,
where oh, sure, yeah, he's just he's just not dark enough.
He may be you know, but he may be Puerto Rican,
but he's not dark enough.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, writer, director's Puerto Rican and yet he had poor
representation of his home country somehow. Okay, yeah, so this
was a blowback.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think this was, you know, chickens coming home to roost,
the ones that weren't killed.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
So we really looked at a It was remarkable the
evolution of this. It took place in about three months.
It went literally from you have to watch this movie
to late February when the votes were coming in and
you can just feel Hollywood backing away from the thing
they were forcing on us. So beautiful to behold and

(10:34):
just so good. The result was this, The movie barely
did anything.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
So Zoe's for Best Original Song and yeah, Zoe Soudano
got Yeah, she.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Was kind of a lock. And then the Best Original Song,
and then the songwriter actually sang her acceptance speech. Have
you let me ask you this, Did you see any
scenes from this movie?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'll encourage everybody listening head over to Red State, pull
up my name. It's down my list probably four or
five d It was from Monday. In my piece on
the Oscar Awards, I have about a one minute, one
in thirty segment from the movie, a musical number from
the film where they sing about vaginoplasty. So Zoe Seldona

(11:29):
just explain the scene from what I could cobble together.
She was a lawyer in this representing the lead character
who was the Mexican drug cartel individual who was going
through a trans operation in order to get out of
the trade. Yes, I just said those words because they're accurate.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
That's a lot of words in a row, Brad, that's
a lot of words in a row. I just I've
never actually seen them arranged in that manner.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
But yeah, it's it's that string of words probably never
occurred before, and yet they're one hundred percent accurate, and
in this scene, it's it's this is one of those
movies where a lot of the scenes where they sing
the dialogue, you know, it's not really a song. They're
just basically doing intonations with their dialogue. So tell me

(12:14):
when it is that I can get an appointment for
my client and just shut the living hell up already.
And her and the doctor the musical and Troy McClure
pretty much, although that was more melodic that Actually there's
composition involved there. And she's walking with the doctor while
they're talking about all the procedures, like does she want

(12:36):
fine o plastic, Yes, how about vaginoplasty? Yes, how about
boomin Suctions? Yes, this is the movie they nominated. M
I mean I had never seen a scene from this
movie before this week, and when I pulled that up,
I just said, wow, I might have to now watch
this train wreck. You might have to own it.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I haven't I find out if they have any cross
promotional chatshki.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
If I can get a vagina ashtray or something that
just you know, fumar on it, something like that.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
See now that would have made more sense with the
Dune to popcorn bucket.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
So we say all of this to let you know
their favorite movie that they loved to death didn't win Jack.
It got the Actress Award, the Song Award, that's it.
It didn't even win Best Foreign Movie. Makes sense to
that because this is a French production set in Mexico,
starring American actors and actresses. Of course, but yeah, you

(13:42):
would think if it was a lock for the Oscar,
it should have been a layup to get Best International.
Note Hollywood completely walked away from this thing. I think
it might have won a single baft to and it
got a couple at the Golden globes, because at that
time they were still like, no, no, we love trans people,

(14:02):
don't we. In Hollyood was like waving their hands, no stop,
don't Oh you voted so damn it.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, once it got outside the film festival circuit, that's
when the shit hit the fan.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
But it was too late. The hype had already. Yeah,
that boulder was already rolling down hill and.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Nothing Sisiphis could do couldn't stop it.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah. I even recall that when when the nominations came out,
I think it was still in a quasi favorable position
at that point, and it was on Netflix. It had
basically gone to Netflix. Nominations came out, guaranteed it never
even hit the top ten on that form.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
In fact, audience, when we do the top ten this week,
that'll be the week that it hit Netflix.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I should tell you everything then. And as a result
of all of this, the most adored movie in Hollywood
last year was a Nora and that sound you hear
is America's reaction where everybody kind of leaned back in
their chair and looked at each other and was like,

(15:18):
the fuck was that? What? Noor? What nobody's seen this movie?
I checked the box office fifteen million is all this
thing made in its entire run. It they did one
of these. It was a consolation prize.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
This was a okay, you know what, we can't vote
for the movie that we want to because of problems,
so just throw a fucking dart. I don't know, I
haven't seen any of them.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's like, so, we're not voting for the trans movie, right,
is that it?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
What do we had? Sex workers? Oh? Okay, yeah, we
can do that.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I think they just went alphabetically make me so it.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Was like like a butterfly ballace. Just whatever's that? The
top vote? Click? Go? Yeah, this is a movie about
a hooker I'm sorry, sure with that who applies for
trade in New York and falls into a relationship with

(16:21):
the son of a Rossian Ola Garc. This is the movie. Okay,
at one Best Doctor, somebody clocked it. I don't have
the exact figure, but it got over four hundred uses
of the F word on screen, Like you have to

(16:43):
try to do that intentionally.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
That was like any random podcast of Foo Bar when
Sam and I were doing a show.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I just think that a movie is like ninety minutes.
You have to hit the F bomb four to five
times a minute, every fifteen seconds. And what we're talking,
I'm doing the math. Was it ninety minutes? I should
probably pull up the exact figure, but I heard somebody
mentioned it's like, yeah, it's like one of the this

(17:11):
is the one the oscar for most f's four hundred.
I want to say four to sixty something like that,
and we'll make it four fifty once every twelve seconds.
Four hundred and seventy nine. That's the official number. So

(17:33):
it's might be eleven.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Once every ten eleven or ten seconds. But yeah, thank you, gron.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I had pretty much every sentence has to have it,
like you'll say, where the fuck are you going? I'm
going to the fucking store. What do you fucking care? Well,
I'm just fucking asking you, And that had to be
the movie. Literally was it irish? Now? It's an independent
movie about put upon trade worker. You know that kind
of nonsense true in pended well when talking about their job.

(18:02):
But anyway, I guess, so are you DTF? Oh no, no,
this is a movie. You can say fuck, I'm done
to fuck yeah, definitely done fucking. I hope they ran
the disclaimer. Jeff just saying but it's I looked at
the release on this and they did the traditional uh
oscar bait release, you know, where they dropped it in

(18:23):
a few theaters just to get the nomination date set,
then move send out to the Academy. It's a twenty
five movie. It came out into December twenty ninth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Then it got up to a couple hundred and then
I think the nominations did so they rolled it out
to like just under eleven hundred screens, and then it

(18:47):
maxed out at like week seven or eight at fifteen
hundred screens. From that jump of eleven hundred to fifteen hundred,
it actually lost box office, Like I think that weekend
it maybe hit two mil. And then when it increased,
it went to like one point six How do you
do that? And literally fifteen points I think it was

(19:09):
fifteen seven was what it closed at the box office.
Nobody saw this thing best movie of the year. Sure
it was. I can't imagine why nobody's watching the Shower, Brad.
And Yeah. As a result, ratings plummeted eight percent, fall
off from last year when nobody was so, hey, can

(19:31):
we talk about our man? Adrien Brody finally getting one. Though,
this is uh, this is I don't I don't know
where they're going to go from here, because I mean
they trans is what they wanted. They wanted a trans
movie desperately in that field. They got to be hitting
a wall at this point. As far as what more

(19:53):
signaling can you possibly do? I think the last three
or four OSCAR shows have been oh, first, what was
it first? Hispanic queer actress won. Yeah, first time a
deaf male won an award. A couple of years ago
for Coda. I think it was another movie nobody saw.
They're so intent on the signaling, like they don't care

(20:15):
about the content, and as a result, nobody in America
cares about the content.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I did appreciate with this one that because they didn't
get to have their triumphant trans movie, that the order
of the day was shut the fuck up, grab your award,
thank people, and walk away.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's yeah. I didn't get a whole lot of political
signaling coming out of these awards either. I think almost none.
I think there was one speech that people were like, oh, yeah,
he came out and said this about that, and everyone's like,
what he gives a damn nobody cares. Wasn't It wasn't
like an uproar. It was like, oh did that so
one person? Okay got it? Checkbox. Yeah. This was my highlight.

(21:05):
Though they marched out the two starlets for the upcoming
snow White feature that's due to hit theaters anytimes. Yes
where I think somebody had the most precient line that was,
this movie isn't being released.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
It escaped right, Yes, you had gal Gado and the Goblin.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I lost count of how many, like when the trailer
and then when they came out for the Oscars, how
many people responded with Lord Farquad memes. And this was
the best part. Though we've seen the trailer. The trailer's horrendous.
The dwarves are unwatchable. Absolutely Visually, the movie just it

(21:57):
looks like something that came out of the south end
of a cat in the litter box. It is just
visually repellent, and.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
They're out of the cat's butthole cut.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I went there unintentionally, and yet here we are. But
the two that came out from that movie did so
to present the Award for Best Visual Effects Irony, the
unintentional ironic moment, there we go, beautiful, beautiful, stuff. So, yeah,
the the Oscars happened, nobody gave it, damn but us.

(22:31):
And just barely.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
See the juxtaposition of that too, because I mean that
was the metaphor of snow white. Just standing right there
at the podium. You had gal Gado, beautiful, resplendent in
her gown, and then you had this little gob next
to her that's supposed to be the fairest of them all.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, the you know, like, I give out one award
every Oscar's season, and gal Gadot won it, and that
would be the dress most like to remove with my teeth,
So congratulations, ms goodo.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
The dress that will look fantastic on my ceiling fan.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
And who are you wearing in a circle above the bed?
All right? But also this weekend that took place was
the Razzie Awards, the counterpoint to the Oscars, where they
celebrate the worst of the year. And I'm gonna say
something I didn't really expect myself to say here. They
got a lot, right, I believe very not. Now understand,

(23:35):
this is a hyper leftist group of people, so every
single year they have to stick their finger in the
eye of some conservative content. This year it was the
movie Reagan starring Dennis Quaid. Not a horrible movie by
any stretch. I mean it's trust me, I know bad films.

(23:56):
It's competent, it's good, you know, I don't know that
it It didn't exactly tap into Ronald Reagan's mystique and
all that perfectly. But not a bad film, no, I
mean it's yeah. These assholes, I think gave it about
six nominations. Just of course it's perfunctory at this point,

(24:17):
where's the conservative movie? Did did this one? Did this
guy put one out? What about over here? No, no
Desosa the Nish? Did he put one? Yes? Okay, guaranteed
they never even watched the film, but it got nominated.
But anyway, their worst picture of the year. I gotta
gotta give him credit on this one, Madam Webb. It

(24:40):
was a a tough, tough year, but I think that
one's appropriate.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Which is surprising that it beat out Megalopolis.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I mean, well, they they did something this year at
the Red They they actually spread it around a bit.
And I've been saying this for years. It's because they
loved hype it up. Hey, Adam Sandler got eight Razzies.
This we go on pr Press and that's it. I
was like, you're stepping on all kinds of crap that
you should have nominated. So this is what they did.

(25:11):
Best Actor, or i should say, Worst Actor went to
Jerry Seinfeld for Unfrosted. I was like, wow, you guys
went there. I agree with it. Yeah, we kind of
called it that that movie was rough. Dakota Johnson got
it from Madam Webb. Supporting actor John Voight. He was
in Megapolis, Reagan a couple others, so they don't like

(25:31):
Void at all. There, they hate him. Supporting actress Amy
Schumer and Frosted. She played Marjorie Post barely. But here
you go director Francis Ford Coppola for Megapolis. So that's
what I'm saying where they spread stuff around screen combo.
They gave it to Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga for
Joker Too. Okay, that is yeah, I'm liking this. That

(25:54):
also won for Best Prequel Remaker Ripoff Sequel.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Well, they I mean, they had a target rich environment
this year. This wasn't just like, you know, there's a
couple of really really bad movies that they just have
to dump everything on the field.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Was quite broad this year. Yeah, and and Borderlands didn't
win anything, and I just think it's because that was
just so overshadowed. It was. It came out on one
weekend and everybody's like, yeah, no, we're gonna go over
here for a while, and just I think everybody just
forgot it.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And that's actually kind of you know, the opposite of
love isn't hate, its apathy.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
So I mean if you just completely forgot that Borderlands
even happened, yeah, that's that's itself.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I mean, we've talked about it a few times. I
forgot Kevin Hart was in it.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I totally forgot Kevin Hart was in that.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I saw, I saw something was like a renditional I
think they were listing the movies and such before the
show's last week, and they did a still shot of
Borderways and there he was behind the wheel. I was like,
holy crap, he wasn't. That wasn't damn. I forgot. Yeah,
but yeah, Jack too, right, Yeah, he and he was
in Bad Santa. They roasted him up a few times.

(27:08):
He had I think three or four nominations this year.
It didn't win shock, but yeah, to your point, I
recall last February, this even made my year. Ran round
up that Madam Webb was talked about for quite a
few weeks in social circles because it was so bad,
you know. That's indeed, it became really something critable. I

(27:33):
heard people talking about it, and then it was like, oh,
like the screening took place a couple of weeks before release,
and people were like, yeah, this is this a Marvel movie?
You know, it was like a joke. And then more
and more people were like, holy crap, did anybody go
see you this? Did? I say, I saw it? Don't
go see it. It was that there was a wild
conversation about how bad this movie was, and I was

(27:54):
kind of in my gleeful mode.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's like, wow, it made the Eternals look like Avengers.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Keeping keeping in the Marvel keeping in the MCU there. Now,
there's just so much bad about that film. I mean,
it's supposedly a superhero film. I think they have people
in costume for like one fifteen second scene. That's it.

(28:25):
It was like somebody had a vision in the future
and it was like the three or four girls were
together and they were in costume fighting some guy, and
then they snapped out of their vision and that was it.
That's it for the rest of the movie. What and
it made no sense, hardly any reference to Spider Man.

(28:47):
And this is supposed to be in the Spider verse.
I mean, it is remarkably horrible and sadly, sadly though we.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Will never actually get to see her become.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
But you had a you had a pretty interesting article
you found about the Oscars. Yeah, this one was the
wreckage causing a shift in thought out there.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well, not just I mean it's uh, not just with
the Oscars. This has become kind of like the uh
we expected this for everything, all awards shows, and that
is the predominant thought, the uh, the unofficial.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Guideline.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Now, if you are nominated for anything Grammy, Emmy, Oscar,
Tony whatever, scrub your social media before word gets out.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised this is a thing because
don't most people in Hollywood have you know, not just
a manager or an agent they've had on a pr rep.
One of those three people should be in charge of
your digital presence.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, I mean you would think once once the sleigh
queen fervor has you know, died off of your cutting post,
your your your political commentary, your your your wisdom and anyway,
I had no one else to go with that, your

(30:32):
agent or your assistant whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Deleted.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
But that doesn't matter because no matter what hot take
you have, if you are anybody, the Internet is forever. Yes,
that ship will be on archives so fast that.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
You need to bribe somebody at the wayback machine.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
And not everybody has Tait's clout, and by that I
mean Taylor or Lends not.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes, she's related to management, how about that? Yes? But this,
here's the trick bag that goes on in Hollywood now,
is that they can't always foresee what is going to
become the forbidden, the hot button topic in the future. So,

(31:21):
just for instance, when you wanted to bolster your career
and become entrenched in Hollywood about eight nine years ago,
you would settle up to Harvey Weinstein at the award
show or one of the post awards parties and put
your arm around him and take pictures and have that
spread around EW and People Magazine and elsewhere. And that's

(31:45):
how you would get into business and get job. Yeah. Oh,
me and Harvey we hung out all night. We're buddies. Yeah,
call him five years later, Oh my god, you're one
of Harvey's people and now you're toxic.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Hey, even going with that the meat you it before
it was all you had to do was shout me too.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now it's who are you actually saying it against?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Because you know, we're we only believe, we believe all
women some of the time.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, and what was that? What was that parallel group
that came up for a while, It was that was
actually me too?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
That that was they they formed a company or a
h It wasn't me.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Too, though, it was she's she's something, she's power, or
it was entirely run by women in Hollywood and in journalism.
It was like the entire board of directors, everybody was
female on it. And they got swept up in a
sex scandal when their entire job was to prevent sex

(32:49):
scandal from happening. Like some doctor that they were supporting
in one of their medical field side ventures. It was
sexually harassing people, and they buried it, they hit it.
They would not help the women in the group that
was formed to help women in the workplace against sexual
harassment was amazing. The doctor that they would refer them

(33:09):
to just it's staggering. And now you can't use that
on your resume. Four years ago would have been I'm
an executive over at that organization. Got eve an Oscar
and that's like, get that off the resume and erase
any reference to it online. This is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I talk about this a lot with other left leaning
you know, topics or whatever. I mean you can get
going back to Gamergate is that when you thrive and
your whole existence is based off of outrage culture, that
circle becomes smaller and smaller until you're on the out
of it, and then you get to feel the full

(33:53):
wrath that you were a part of just a couple
of weeks before. You you used to be the wrather.
Now you're the rathee because you did something that was
totally cool a couple of weeks ago, but now in
the fluid space that is outrage culture, having a perfect

(34:13):
land opinion a little bit ago will now get you
completely canceled and next thing you know, you're serving Piscatti
and Ventes.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah. I mean, here's I just encountered just today, actually
prime example of how the shifting standards take place, because
that's exactly what happened with Amelia Perez. They put it
out there because this is a woke feature that we
all want, and it got taken down not by anybody
else but woke culture right their own standards. It was

(34:46):
cultural appropriation. It was hostile towards the trans community. The
lead actress said all the inappropriate social things. So their
standards brought down their preferred movie. And today there was
a there's a trans individual online. It was making fun
of Riley Gains and said Riley Gaines looks more trans
than anybody I know. Yeah, and I just respond to them.

(35:11):
It's like, so, let me get this straight. It's a
hate crime to make fun of trans people. But you
can use you can use trans to make fun of people,
all right.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
See later in that later in that post, they said
they wanted to be anything that Riley gans is not.
And I said, well, she's a woman, so achievement. Or
I said, so you're a dude, so achievement unlocked.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I saw that it was beautiful on your party already there, buddy,
ma'am you but this is just puzzle top. It's so
amusing to watch this because they get it's the Ora
Boros of society. Their standards bring them down as they're

(35:55):
pushing their standards, and we just sit over here on
the right and just go It's sure cool to be consistent,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's and that's kind of the that's the you know,
them being hoisted upon their own retard. Well, when you're consistent,
you don't have to worry about such things often.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
We even we talked about this at the Vip Gold
chat on Red State last night, where you know, we
all know nowadays that to be a true rebel is
to be a conservative today. That's where the.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Reb that's counterculture, that's punk rock.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, we mentioned all of that, you know, we said, well, yeah,
that all trends because LUCU kicked off punk rock Generation
X Luk who's running the show today Generation X.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, And we've had a couple of millennials you know,
think they're in charge, but you like vance but really,
you know, we're just trying to keep him from eating
tide pods.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, and the uh you know, I mean, what what's
one of the biggest facet's going out there today? And
that's free speech, censorship, all of that. Who's fighting on
behalf of that? People on the right who's trying to
silence voices, free expression, the left, the media of all things,
and that's pure rebel right there, we're fighting authority on

(37:16):
the conservative side of things. Never in my life thought
that would occur.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Well, not just that, but if you want to talk,
I mean, you know, the great you know thing about
the parties shifting. The parties didn't shift in the fifties
and sixties. The parties shifted in twenty ten, twenty fifteen
when we became Annie war.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
And free speech. Yeah, because we're the ones.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
You don't have a lot of leftists who had their
friends go off and get maimed and killed in war.
Those are our friends that did that. So everybody's like,
welly are you guys so Andy Warren now because we
just watched twenty years of our friends getting sent into
a fucking meat grinder.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, and you know, we actually went to school and
did math and we could figure out how much of
our taxpayer money is going to sinkholes like Ukraine and elsewhere.
You know. The other thing, too, is when Generation X
is in control, name calling has no effect, right, I mean, dude,

(38:10):
I've been called worse things than my father, Okay, so
bring it. I've had times where I've injured myself or
came home shit faced drunk, and my dad was like,
brought it on yourself. Man, what are you gonna do?
That's Generation X.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
So you're in jail. You can set there till morning or.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
You want bail, and yet you still owe me money.
Eyes have a problem here, Oh Jesus, okay, got it?
Can I have Grandma's number? Something like that. But it's
just reality. That's they don't deal in reality in Hollywood
and the younger generations. I saw a story today there
are two days ago. Maybe they call them Generation ZE

(38:53):
now because our media has absolutely no creativity. They're actually split.
Half of them are cool as hell and are turning
conservative in high school now. They're just like the people
are crazy. I'm gonna go hang out with the cool kids.
Here's the other half, though, a Generation Z. They're forming
classes so that they can handle the anxiety of answering

(39:15):
a telephone, because yeah, they live on this device all day,
but if the phone actually rings and they have to
have a conversation with a live individual, they can't deal.
They actually call it something like telephonic anxiety or something
like that. They're so fucking soft. I can't come to

(39:38):
work today, have ta? Why are you texting me? Phone?
It in? Oh my God, you don't even know what
TA is, what EV's right?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Why are you oppressing me? Cockmat oppressor?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Making me call in sick is like so oppressive and unfair,
and I feel unsafe, so I can't get out of bed,
and you know, the other halves are like, yeah, okay,
stay in bed. I'm gonna go drop an engine blocking
the new Chevy and then I gotta go to work.
It's you know, it's really a weird generation. I'm waiting

(40:13):
to see how it develops because what's going on is
so bifurcated right now, it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You know, it's funny. It was kind of a commentary
on that twenty years ago. It's a TV show called
Sarah Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
There's a terminator thing and I remember one of the lines.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Not a lot stuck with me, except for Lena Hedley
and Summer Glau, but there was one scene where she's
like getting cell phones for her and John Connor, and
you know, the salesman's going on and on and on
about all the features and the texting and everything else
that She's all, if I push twelve numbers, well I
be able to talk to somebody else. On the other end,

(40:52):
what gen Z has is the polar opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
They don't even know.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
It's like we joke you wouldn't know how to use
a rotary phone. Now they don't know how to dial
a fucking number. After they programmed something in that's it.
Then they go pure text after that.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, and we had a conversation. We were in a
bar last week too, and people were throwing around and
talking about Yeah, I hope you didn't fall out of
your chair on that one. We were talking about writing in
cursive and how many people can even do it these
days in that generation. It's like, yeah, so many kids don't.
It's like, how the hell do you sign a check?
How do you put your name on any document? But

(41:31):
that that cracks me up. Then, and half of these
people that can't read cursive probably work in sports memorabilia,
where autographs are all well, at least you don't have
to worry about them forging shit.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I see so, and the Chad Vincent made a comment
they don't know how to read a Watchtyal. I saw
YouTube the other day where it was millennials like absolutly
fuming about the phrase quarter you know, quarter pass or
quarter tel because to them that's twenty five, not one

(42:08):
quarter of sixty.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
They don't get it.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yes, well why do you why do you say a
quarter to seven when everybody when you know, it's just
six seventy five was one of the actual comments.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And this was not like spoof. Damn.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, I'm not worried about the I am not worried
about a civil war.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
No, not at all. I mean, hell, all you just
need is a jeep and a tire cover, it says,
a millennial theft prevention system with the stick shift. Perfect.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah, I'm covering my forerunners am manual.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
It's a rabbit hole there. Yeah, but it's all, you know,
it's the culture. We're talking about. Culture Still, well, we
can get away from movies at least in the theater
and get into streaming. I was a little surprised by this,
but Netflix actually took a hit in its stock. Yeah,

(43:09):
that was I mean everybody did. Yeah, I know, that's
that's kind of where I'm wondering how much how much
of this is that? But yeah, is what cracked me up.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, I as we figured out how to make people pay.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I mean, the Netflix is just running circles around every
other service. You know, they're all desperate. Disney's losing subscribers
and laying people off, as we'll get into, and Netflix
is just cooking along. I really think their drop here
is probably in tune with the rest of the market.
But the analysis was their method of making people pay

(43:52):
for more subscriptions has maxed out. Right, it's a plateau,
and now they're ebbing from that. I'm sorry, doesn't feel accurate.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, which is funny because I mean, the stocks, you know,
they took a little bit of a hit, and you
know they're they're chalking it.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Up to that.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
But meanwhile, in the same paragraph, they're talking about in
the analysis paragraph talking about how they actually have more
subscribers now at the AD level, that their plan of
preventing sharing passwords has worked. They have more subscribers at

(44:37):
the AD level, which they're making more off AD revenue
than they are off of the premium subscription where you
don't get ads. So they are generating more money because
you've got the AD level plus the ads, and this
somehow equates to that's a bad quarter.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I'm not buying. I mean, it's it feels like
to me, this is market forces anything else and that
was just.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
A fucking juggernaut and that's not and that's not something
that's gonna be affected by the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
There's no reason why.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
I mean everything, you know, everything you know an ebbing
tied sinks all boats.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
But yeah, the I missed which one it was. But
I saw I saw a complaint the other day that
they had individual had signed up for premium service on
one of the platforms and they're still getting ads. I

(45:41):
would flip my ship, they said, like I purposely paid
extra for no ads, and I'm looking at a commercial
that was going on.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I mean, PARAMODN will do that every now and then,
but really, what it is, it's like you can't skip
the Paramount logo when it's coming up.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
If they're premiering something like, you know, because it's Paramount,
they're going to say, hey, have you seen this ship
Star Trek spin off that we farted out?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
No, okay, cool, you get.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
You like, after I found out you got five seconds
of it then you can fast forward. So yeah, so
that's kind I had, but I get it.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah. Yeah, Just it's it doesn't feel right that they
are in a position at the stocks going down, I'm
gonna say bull crap. Yeah, at least especially for now.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
On the last earnings call, they were up fifty five
on new sign ups. I this I'm not I'm not
buying this one. I'm not buying this analysis.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, I think that right. There was probably a market
writer who said, well, I can't say everybody's going down
because of the market. Probably I got to come up
with some excuse just to be original. But on the
Netflix news, a little bit of a surprise. The hit

(47:08):
show The Recruit maybe not so much of a hit.
They've announced that they're not renewing it. It just came
back for season two.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
That show got done dirty.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I mean it's it's it's good, not great, but it
uh it suffered from the writer's strike.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, definitely, they wrapped up.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
They wrapped up at the end of what was it,
twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Maybe season one was a hit and Netflix is like, hell, yeah,
bring on more of it and yeah, then it got delayed,
so it it just lost that momentum, that's all there
is to it. And when it finally did come back,
it had to basically find its audience once again. So
Netflix came to them and were like, Okay, yeah, all

(48:00):
the romance stuff, get rid of it. We just want
pure action. Yeah, and wasn't enough. I'll tell you what
I like about the Recruit though, is actually the office
politics side, because they're showing a lot of the operations
inside the CIA, and it's not right cloak and dagger
and everything like that. It's more of everybody in there

(48:23):
is out to screw you and get ahead. Yeah right,
it's like all of his politics cannon. Sure. I'm like,
I'm here for this. This is cool. I like this stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Toppling governments, toppling tad and the cubicle next to me.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
It's all the same, exactly. Sure, I'll help you out.
If anybody ever says that, check your wallet and your desk.
You're about to get screwed one way or the other.
But sadly, yes, it will not be renewed. But they
only gave it a.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Two ups, I mean grat of the season's only eight episodes,
but so like a quarter of the through the second season,
this pack it up, You're done.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, they We've talked about this plenty how Netflix has
their own arcane formula for what is successful and what
will get renewed, and this falls into that. Sometimes it's
just so bizarre. We've talked about.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I mean there's some shows on Netflix that got canceled
after their second episode. Yeah, so it's like, why is
anybody gonna bother watching the next six and you just
self fulfilled the prophecy that it was gonna tank.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, we saw a couple of times too, like a
new movie, your show will come out at number one?
What was there? Was this about a year or two ago?
We did want it came out as a superhero family
show or something like that with damn It forgot his
name now, but it was it debuted at number one.
Was like, everybody watched this and three days later, I'm

(49:58):
not gonna renew it only one season? Wait? What huh?
So they must have good look at formula with money
and streaming numbers. If we're gonna spend fifty million, you
better hit this watermark.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
No, it's exactly because that's what they're saying. I read
a piece on the calculus they use, and it is
we spend ex per episode, we expect this many viewers
per episode, which I mean, that makes sense. But it's
like they've canceled shows that like it didn't even have
a chance to get word of mouth before they shit candidate, right,

(50:38):
you know, before you could get on social media say wow,
this show is fucking great. It's already been canceled.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, they don't allow and again, I mean, they got
this formula that works for him, so who are we
to really, bitch, But they don't allow for that streaming
service surviving. So yeah, they don't. They don't make room
for that organic audience build that sometimes happens with Face
for show. Nobody got time for that, So you'll you'll

(51:04):
miss something that you know, years ago would have been
left on the air for five or six episodes, and
you know, studio might say, Okay, we're gonna cancel this
on bitch, and by episode five, all of a sudden
it's growing. You're like, what's happening, Hey, let it run,
let's see what happens. And then season six, what do
you know? Netflix doesn't play that. It's more of like yeah,

(51:26):
but on that note, we got word from the Netflix
CEO individual by the name of Spence Newman. That is
not a name that runs a multi national entertainment corporation.
I'm sorry, no, but.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Spence I was gonna say no, that's actually like a
mid level exec at ABC in the eighties. Yeah, it's
a oh Randon Tartka. But Spence Newman, you knew his name.
He was tied with Chuck Lurie.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, I did you know that one sitcom on Thursday
Night at nine thirty. That was me? That was me. Oh,
the one that writes everybody's coattails and couldn't fail no
matter what your belt show. Way to go, Spence, Yeah,
I fucking love your work. But what he comes out
and says is that they're basically looking at spending eighteen
billion dollars on content. And then I love this phrase

(52:31):
at the end, and that's not anywhere near a ceiling.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, that's just what they're willing to start off.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
That's their opening bid. That's there.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Here's money we're gonna set on fire because we can.
And then, uh, if we need to shove them more
ducts on it, more on it.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Eighteen billion, that's a that's petty cash. Take a few
hundreds out of there and go get lunch and then
we'll see what green light that's That just shows you.
I mean, we just talked about Disney recently where they're
scaling back on their content spend. Yeah, Netflix is just
sitting on basically a joker pyramid of dollar bills. It's

(53:17):
like I don't have any kids. Well, here go get
yourself some kids. Do. We have a spy show. We
need a spy show. Go get the snow shovel. Here
you go. Is that enough show? And there you go?

Speaker 3 (53:33):
So we gotta we gotta show about a dog solving crimes.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Let's go get you know what. We'll call it Puccini
to go get on it. Does the dog commit the
crime or solve the crime or both? If you yeah,
I'll give you here's here's some more money. If it's both. Okay,
So this is one can extra thing with it.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
But for kids and with a talking dog.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
We need an evil Doberman. Uh, Golden Retrieve is the
hero and German shepherd detective. What the hell go for? Yeah?
So yeah, this is why I think they're stock falling. No,
I'm not buying it. Eighteen billion is our starting point
for con right.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
We just had to talk about how they had to
scale back to thirty billion, and Netflix is like fucking amateurs.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, I mean we got squid Game coming in. We
just know we're gonna have more than that, so okay,
but this is what cracks me up so much.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
We're gonna make that off of anything that we spot
during squid Game, you know, and their little promo run ins.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
If you like this, you'll also like, yeah, this is
why the Hollywood economy just cracks me up. I mean
we're freaking out right now because we go to the
cheapest store possible and eggs are seven fifty. They're like, oh,
eighteen billion animated, What the hell do it? Go ahead?

(55:04):
They money is like not even a concept to them,
It's just a ledger entry. Well, do you need a
break or were just gonna run? No, we'll roll through.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
We got jender Rick behind us, we got thirty minutes.
We still got a fuck ton of content.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Okay, yep, we'll have to tighten up a little bit,
but we can do we can do it. Well, we'll
talk about squid Game.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Yes, yeah, Well, I mean Amazon, they kind of they're
doing the thing they're not supposed to do, but they're
doing it anyway, and that is uh something that.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
The using squid Game is the example using AI too,
because not everybody wants uh subtitles, they want dubbed. So
Amazon is anything that isn't already dubbed, they're having AI,
They're testing having AI dub it and having partners verify

(56:02):
the dubbing for localization.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I'm I'm getting to the point where the Screen Actors
Guild strike was a complete bust. Yeah. It seems like
you and I every show come up with a news
story about how AI is being used in Hollywood, and
that was the primary sticking point for shutting Hollywood down

(56:27):
two years ago.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
That actually drug it out for an extra two months
was the sticking point of AD. And what I'm getting
from all this, all the studios are went, yeah, okay,
we won't use AI, and I'm like, well, what the
fuck are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Go on strike again so we can just show you
we can replace you. We don't.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
I mean, last show we talked about how they're replacing
voice actors with AI.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, and this is trends right and the same. I mean,
if you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna get a
start in Hollywood anywhere, it would be over dubbing Korean
martial arts films, right, Yeah, I mean it was just
that that's your first entry on your filmography. It's like
played the role of Cam Sue in The Drunken Cop

(57:08):
four and basically it was like, ooh, stop ow that hurt.
Quit it not get you know that, that's what you did.
I really think what happened with this last strike is
the studio executives got together. I was like, can you
believe these sons of bitches? Yeah, let's promise them. And
if we use AI instead of them, what are they
going to do? Strike? Because we're not using them, and

(57:30):
then we won't use them if they're on strike. Huh.
And I think that's the corner the performers are painted into. Now, hey,
it's cracks me up so much. That was the It's
like you said, they hammered out like the money and
the residuals and the royalties and they've are you know,
negotiating these all the time. And the very last thing

(57:53):
were the parameters of artificial intelligence. And that took us
from August to October, that one aspect. Yeah, yeah, they
just basically broke down. It was like, oh, all right,
we won't use AI. We're gonna we're gonna use AI.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
We're just just I'm just so fucking using AI.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
In fact, the contract I'm slanting across the table. It
was written by AI. Yeah, we boiler plated this in grock. Yes,
it was just typed it up. Contract residuals voiceover enter.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Just type in, give me a bespoke contract. The saying
that I won't use AI written specifically for Funk.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I don't know karing Gillian there.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
It is fifty pages and all they're doing is just
initially where they're supposed to initially, and it's just fucking
gibberish with six fingers.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, it's you know, because I cover the press and
I'm just I'm literally watching that industry evolve, or maybe
I should they devolve right before our eyes. Yeah, literally
on a weekly basis. And I think Hollywood is on
the precipice of that. I really think that we're going
to start watching a complete transformation and stuff like this,

(59:13):
because it just it keeps popping up and I've yet
to see any resistance. Have you heard anybody in any
of the guilds coming out and complaining about this?

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Well, okay, there was a little bit of blowbackter for
the brutalists and all they used AI for, and that
was to kind of smooth out the Hungarian accents of
some of the actors to make them so they would
be understandable. But there was a little bit of you're
not supposed to be using AI. But on the other hand,
you know, in the living room.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Just yeah, now, there was there was some some a
couple of months ago. I think we had an entry.
There was like some arcane usage somewhere and they were like,
oh my god, I can't believe you're doing that, and
it was like the most anodyne use of AI. Meanwhile, yeah,
voiceover work, We're watching disappear left and right, and I'm

(01:00:09):
not seeing any screaming and yelling coming from the guilds.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
And I think this goes back to what we talked
about with the oscars, with them being strangely a political
this year. You know, it's just they've figured out, shut
the fuck up because now they can be replaced with
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
This actually touches on AI. AI.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, I mean, any kids just hammering into a chat
box can fart out a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Well, just dialogue. I can think of two benefits of AI. Now. One,
we're not going to hear as many actors coming out
and belly aching their social activism virtue signaling nonsense, because
the computers are just like, I don't think you should
be so hateful to click right. The other aspect, we're

(01:01:02):
not going to have as many cringe pr junkets like
we saw with Wicked so or you know, battered r
ls on the toys. I mean yeah, but I mean done.
You're not gonna have computers sitting down and stroking each
other's keyboard. No, and uh in your space?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
What does that even mean? I don't know, but it's
it's something I'm supposed to say. I mean, not that
it was animated, but just as a larf I typed
into groc the other day, you know, put a man
to tapping in a black dress and fish fish nets,
fighting robot bees and a haunted swamp.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
And it made a pretty good goddamn picture.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
And I'm like, I would watch this fucking movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
What you conjure up? It was the specificity of that
that I enjoyed. Something well done. The bees Okay, nice
touch robot bees with a shot again, I mean wow,
But that's yeah, this is this is gonna be a
development going forward. Well, we've been talking about Disney and yeah,

(01:02:12):
Netflix is pretty healthy. How about Disney not so much,
so much not quite another round of layoffs have been announced.
It was the targeting of this is what I found interesting,
specifically to broadcast. So two hundred people are tagged to
be let go for ABC News and the Disney Broadcast Division.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Yeah, specifically in the news gathering and their acquisition of
five thirty eight, which you know, in the last round
of layoffs, they let Needdy Silver go and he went
and did his own thing over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
On substack and did it actually quite well. The selection. Yeah,
so they're just completely shuttering five thirty eight, which I
find amazing. But yeah, not so much either. I don't
know it was you people listening aren't familiar. That was
one of the go to or I don't know if

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they really were go to, but over the last few elections,
that was like the pre eminent polling savant supposedly, although
I don't recall a lot of times where people were
just like, oh my god, he got it so dead
on the mark. It was just like you're supposed to
follow him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, Nate Silver got lucky during Obama his first election,
and then they kind of rode that uh graft us
for a while, but he didn't do so hot with
the second election or Trump's election, and U, I guess,
I mean he did okay with his own model, his
unadulterated model at sub sack. Where what when Disney put

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their thumb on the model five thirty eight did not
fare so well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
And they didn't seem to do anything with it. That's
the part that made no sense, Like, okay, you've acquired this.
You would think that they would broadcast this, This would
be on ABC News every night and all their platforms,
and they would pushed the hell out of this, and
it was almost like they got it and buried it. Yeah,
why But okay, the other thing they're doing is consolidating

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their two news magazines, twenty twenty and Nightline into one program.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
So yeah, so pretty much you know the thing that
has carried ABC News aside from ABC News, their their
sub news division.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Okay, yeah, really, the only thing they got going forward
is David Meir at Knight, who cracks me up. This
guy's head is so far up his own rectum. He
knows what his prostate tastes like that, and for whatever reason,
Stephanopolis on Sunday, he's still around job for now. He's

(01:05:05):
he's really I'm watching him turn into very cranky little
troll that he is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Well, yeah, because any time he can't say what he
wants to say because he's getting sued, it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Well he got sued because he was so bitter too
at the same time. He just kind of feels like,
it's like, I don't tell you how it is, and
then really, well, I'm gonna sue you because that's not
how it is. Damn it, son of a bitch. They
sued me fantastic, yes, fuck, And I mean the way
ABC News buckled on that defamation suit to crack me up.

(01:05:43):
It was they were good, should we fight it? Should
we fight it? And then they got internal documents that
showed the producer said, George on no uncertain terms, do
you call that a rape? Okay, so you raped her
and that's it. But yeah, yeah, ABC is getting chopped
in the news division.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
So like, I didn't even know there was a gm
A three, but those are getting rolled together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah. It's really that's kind of what all the networks
are doing. I think CBA or no NBC, I think
stretched Today a couple hours over the years, and then
MSNBC they gave Mika and Joe another hour and just
basically they have nothing else to do. There's no creativity.
That's kind of work and give them some more time.

(01:06:33):
Yeah they've got a defamation suit, Yeah they do. And
of course I've been following these, these have been I've
been amazed at defamation used to be something you never
saw in news because it was so so hard to do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Right, it's a very tough bar to prove. You have
to show malice, which I mean with malice like we were
talking about with Stephan Opplos. You have to have the
smoking gun, you have to have those emails. You can't
prove malice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
And that's yeah, it used to be that was the
toughest part. But now everything is digitized and it's a no,
you're not scrubbing servers, and if you do, we can
pull them off.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Yeah, there's actual digital forensics is a is a thing where.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Don't make us send agents in to go get the hardware,
give it to us or we're getting it. Is basically
what it comes down to. So now this stuff keeps
coming up. It happened at CNN, MSNBC just settled what
a week or so ago with their suit right with
the uterust doctor, the uterus corrector they called him. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:07:40):
it's like we have no leg to stand on. So
CBS is now facing it with sixty minutes. And I
think there's validity to this because there's a wrinkle to it.
They're saying, oh, it's you know, First Amendment, you can't
tell us what to do. The hitch however, is election interference? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
And that's one thing. It's like, you know, they they
they were trying to before when this case started, they
were trying to get it thrown out because they didn't
have standing, and you know, the judge came back with
will people vote, don't they? And well, you can't prove
anybody was harmed by this voters. So then they're coming back.
Now there's a a co plaintiff with Trump on this one,

(01:08:22):
and they're saying, well, let's just keep the case alive
in Texas. This case doesn't belong in Texas and belongs
in New York. Well, there's voters in Texas, aren't there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah, that's that's been an interesting thing and where these
take place. There's another one out there too. By the way,
Trump is suing the Pulitzer Committee.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Yeah, because everybody had had a Pulitzers surprize that year
was lying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
And the thing what cracked me up though, I don't
know if he did this intentionally or it just happened,
but he couldn't sue Washington Post in New York Times
this is all over Russian collusion. Lies. Yeah, because that
timed out statue of limitations hit, so we couldn't sue them.
So he goes to a Pullitzer committee and was like, hey,
you got to you gotta pull this award down, you know,

(01:09:09):
you got to rescind that and get him give the
trophies back. And the Pulitzer committee came out with a statement,
we did a review, we looked everything over, everything was upstanding.
We're not doing it. And he's like, well, that's within
the statute of limitations, so I'm gonna sue your ass.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Yeah, we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
But just the very fact that they put out a
statement then clocked in under the five year period. And
he's like, okay, well, lawsuit and I may actually be
able to attend this because for whatever reason, they chose
a court in Okachobe, Florida. That's uh, I that's not

(01:09:47):
a good call for them. Yeah, that's just put it
this way. You don't go on the water anywhere in
Okachobe without seeing a Trump flag. So I mean, great joy.
I'm just trying to understand the justification of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Okay, so they can claim Florida man if it doesn't
go their way. See, we started with Florida man. We're
wrapping it up with Florida man. We've come full circle.
This is why we're highly skilled, trained professionals exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
It's almost like we know what we're doing. Fool jeh.
And on the topic of CBS this, I think this
has to be money related. That's the only thing I
could think of, because otherwise it's almost like they're regressing.
But big news, CBS News now is going to be

(01:10:37):
in podcasting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yeah, okay, so they've been doing podcasting. Now they're going
to do video podcasts because reasons I guess I fucking don't.
This is like a step up. You have one of
the three major broadcast companies that has been around for
nearly seventy years. You have streaming services, you have radio stations.

(01:11:03):
Now you want to get into the YouTube sphere. But
it's not enough to put your your content out on
YouTube through CBS News. You're taking your podcaster that you
have for whatever fucking reason and putting a camera in
front of her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, big, big revolutionary move there. I mean, I see
this headline News pushes into video podcasts with the forty
eight Hours broadcast, and I had my first reaction was
they weren't doing that already.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Well we had a podcast or the forty eight Hours
post Mortem, because you know, murdershit is. I mean, every
housewife just loves their true crime shows, so I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
So it's like, I mean, we've got our own here
at klarn. Not going to knock the format because it
is now flipping successful. I'm just yeah, and it's problems
so hot right now. Hulu has a hit TV show
based on murder podcast called Murder in the Building, and
it just that's how hot this is a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
By the way, French Ports for Forensics is on Saturday
nights right here at kaylor and Radio dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
It's it's definitely a thing, and I'm you know, I
try to make fun of it. I can't because I
know in my life women that are like this. I've
daughter in law tells me she's at work and that's
all she listens to. Are true Crime Murder Podcast. It's like,
that's eight hours a day. Don't turm around. She's like, oh,
hell no, you have no idea. Two out of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Five Twitter hotties I follow listen to true Crime.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
So yeah, I'm it's he I'm gonna need to see
that data after the show. By the way, I did
my own personal polling. Okay, I hope to god it
was p O L L. I was no, because these
are our listeners. I'm not making fun.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
I'm not making fun of my followers or the people
I follow on our listeners that that was the correct spelling.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Okay, Okay, that's it was really more for my edification
than anything else. He's like, God, please don't. But we
can wrap up pretty close here with numbers. As we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yeah, fire, let's fire through them, because, like we said,
for those of you paying attention at home, at the
start of the show, we talked about this was the
week that the Oscar, the movie that was supposed to
sweep the Oscars, was on streaming. Because you know, we
the way the streaming numbers come out, it's a couple

(01:13:40):
of months ago when we're talking about the numbers now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Was actually the numbers back in January into December. A
little bit of a lag, if you will, but it's
still were already at the beginning of February. Now okay, March, March.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
No, I mean with the uh, the ratings, Oh got
it this week? Yeah, this is for the week of
February third through.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Ninth, pretty much the way it works. I mean Nielsen,
I don't know they You would think with streaming they
could get this quicker, but no, I don't. For some reason,
there's a lag. Television they can get within days, but streaming, No,
it's digital. It's hard because.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
For television you have a little you literally have a
box attached to your TV. I know that because I
was a Nielsen home for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yeah, now it's more more has to do, I'm sure.
With the streamers saying we got to see if we
can massage these numbers before we give them out, We'll
start with the original series and Night Agent. This has
been a hit. I've yet to see it. Actually, I've
been doing the recruit not this one. But there was

(01:14:50):
a lot of build up for this one. Yeah, I've
been meaning to check it out too. A lot of hype,
a lot of talk. Then we got sweet Magnoila's and
look at that the crew.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
So all of these around a billion to a billion
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Minutes viewed for this week. So now we've got numbers
for the recruit just under a billion. That might be
the thing. They're gonna spend this much for episode it
needs to be one point one bill or gone right?

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Probably Yeah, because it's just under a billion. It's a
nine hundred and fifty six million, so that that was
probably their best park one billion and you're out there,
you go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Then we got Severance over at Apple plus this one
I've never seen, and it's pretty significant for Apple to make. Yeah,
but they made the top ten. Hey, how about that?
They made the top five.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Which is actually really significant too because usually I forget
they exist.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Yeah, but I mean it's also quite a drop off.
So at number three, you had just under a billion.
Severance came in at five hundred and eighty two millions. Okay.
Then there was the American man Hunt OJ Simpson. Isn't
that old? I thought that was like years ago. They
did this on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Oh you know what, it may have just hit Netflix
from another stream.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
No, it's original. I thought they came from Yeah, it's original. Series.
That's weird. I didn't Hulu I think did something like this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I think they did, which is probably why Netflix followed
behind with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Speaking of Hulu, at number six is Paradise. Gotta say,
I was kind of amped up for this. Watched a
couple episodes and that's all I watched. Yeah, there's my review. Now.
It was very very methodical plotting, I'll say that. Okay, slow,
but also wasn't what I thought it would be. I

(01:16:42):
was looking for like political intrigue, thriller or something, and
this turned out to be more of a catastrophic kind
of deal going on, you know, like, uh, there's a
lot of this out there where, like something great and
mysticals taking place with society, Okay, and the intrigue attached

(01:17:06):
with it that I'm just gonna say. It wasn't intriguing.
At least it was not. Yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
It was not as intriguing as the intrigue should have made. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
This, now here's the surprise. Squid Game is still relatively new,
but it's down the chart.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
No, this was the This was before it was actually
the new season was released. This is everybody catching up
for the roles.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
So we didn't quite get the Squid Game three releases.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
No, no, this is this is the pre release bump.
This is kind of every time of the season two
of a massively popular show comes up, they pop back
up into the top ten. Not at the top, but
like when Witcher came back for season three, it was
number one before season three hit because everybody just wants
to catch up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I just had I had dates wrong then because uh yeah,
there we go. Then we've got Invincible over at Prime,
a little bit of everybody getting in here except for yeah.
Plus well they don't have shit complete mystery on this
one though, Apple cider vinegar, no fucking idea, I complete void.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Make a great British making show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
And just does this mean yeah, okay, Aggie, do you
have to use that as an ingredient in every dish?
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Yes, it's kind of like Iron Chef, but by Mott's right,
all right, acquired series.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Here's a shocker, Bluey number one. I think the bigger
shock is this a billion minutes? Yeah, it's actually down.
I mean, is this ever gonna tap out?

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Or is it just no that it hovers at a
billion billion a half minutes every time?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
With every fucking show. It's never going away. It's like
comdia literally literally what's taking place here? These are the
pandemic children. Yes, never stopped everybody that had sex in
the pandemic and children. As a result, they are now
being cursed with bluie. And you can't get a booster

(01:19:15):
to get away from this one. No, And then we
got all of the usual ncis Grey's Anatomy. Pretty much,
any show that's got eighteen seasons in the vault are
going to be on this list.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Younger on order, big bang theory. Okay, so here's where
we get. Okay, before the Rookie, you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Bobs Burger's family guy, an American dad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Notice the Simpsons isn't anywhere on there and anymore, they
have not been on there since they switched over to Disney.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yes, the show is dead when they went to Disney.
Plus they made a huge deal out of that, right yeah. Yeah,
And they were in the top.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
They were in the top for like half a year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I mean it was like a massive hype job. I
think they were doing twenty four hour ing at some
point in time on some aspect of it to push it.
And yeah they where are they? And They've got crap
ton more years than these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah, they ten almost fifteen years more than h one
of those shows.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
That is, Uh, that is remarkable right there. But uh,
you know when it comes to the acquired series, Hulu's
all about it, Yeah, which makes no sense because Bob's
Burger's Family Guy, American Dad. Hulu is also the Rookie.
Those are all ABC Fox properties. How are they acquired?
Production company? Has got to be different? I guess Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
I think it's because Fox was acquired by ABC. They
didn't acquire the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
They acquired the network. Well that I mean maybe because
Fox broadcast is because that's that's on Hulu. The hell yeah,
I'm kanfuzzled. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
The only thing they didn't get in the uh, in
the purchase was Fox News.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Yeah, and Fox Sports. That's that's where the divorce is at. Huh.
On the movie side, kind of Pregnant tops out with
only eight hundred and forty seven million. That's curious. Uh,
you're cordially invoided the menu back in Action the wild
Robot that hit Look at that peacock is on a
on a list way to go peacock fucking up? Yes,

(01:21:24):
I think that was Maanitud didn't come on yet Maybe
not yet. Yeah. Uh, Peacock is again with super Mario
Brothers and a Margamoney sing Frozen. Okay, well, overall, who
topped it out? Who just conquered All Night Agent? One
point five two billion? Pretty low? Pretty low?

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Actually yeah, I mean that's actually for being overall.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Yeah, that's I mean, usually we're creeping up to about
the two billion level unless it's something really hot. I
think squid Game, the new release is gonna probably be
in the three billion. That's kind of crush.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Yeah, that's gonna crush it. But you got to Netflix,
is there, and then you go to fucking Bluie.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
B Louis is number three, damn, and then you got
n C I S which is Hulu, Netflix and Paramount.
What this is it's it's metastasizing that show. Just holy, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
An excellent analogy because I mean we were used to
be confused when it would be on two streamers and
go okay, so there's a little bit of nepotism there.
Now it's not this one's on three soon soon all
will be in C I S I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
So it's but maybe they chop it up first five seasons,
go to this one, second, five to that one last that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
You can hear the first three seasons of the show
on Prime, but if you want to watch more, you
gotta go over to to B.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Yeah. They do that with Love Brooklyn ninety nine as well.
It's like, oh man, I can always put that on
the background the first four seasons. I'm more ready. Damn yah,
we got a wrap. Yes it is time. So tell
us where can we find more of your content?

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Well, surprisingly, you can still find me on X. Nobody's
more surprised than me. You can find me this week,
the rest of the week come off. You can find
me next week on Tuesday night on Manorama on UH
it'll be me and Vincent and Rick and Jeff and
Rank or Steve. It's on his Rumble channel and usually
we got some random Canadian too. Tuesday Night you can

(01:23:30):
find or that was Tuesday Night. Wednesday night you can
find me. This week is a Toxic Masculinity week, where
it'll be me, Rick, g and Aggie talk about all
things toxic and masculine.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Later you can find me on Rick and Alredy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
After that, then next Saturday you can find me on
Juxtaposition where Rick and I take a deep dive into
the strange and unusual.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
How about you? Where can people find more of your magnificence? Oh,
I just chopped it. You can't say that. Pour some out.
I am daily available for at town Hall dot com.
I've got my daily media column there called Rift from
the Headlines. I'm also on the front page of Red State,

(01:24:10):
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is our American industry. And on this network you can
hear more of me. Next Thursday, I will be ensconced
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