The Culture Shift w/ Brad and Ordy: MCP Failure on line 3

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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome to Thursday evening here at kln Land. This is
your early introduction to the weekend. This is the culture shift.
I'm Brad Slager getting ready to take you down all
the information needed for your entertainment, pleasure and the business
side of Hollywood. But I'm not doing it alone. Joining
me every fortnight on this venture into the hallowed halls

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of Hollywood is America's most laser focused and digitized Amish individual.
Already packard what's going on tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh, you know, just living the California life. Tuesday, I'm
driving through snow and chains and today it's a beautiful seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Wow, you're already in that lovely time of year where
slush is a regular factor, is what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, it's yeah, like the politics, the weather is psychotic
out here under How about you? How's everything out in
America's wang everything status?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Quo. Here we're just basically sitting back and once again
enjoying the fact that the country is unraveling and becoming
more psychotic than our own state. What a refreshing change.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, Florida America or America, man, it's uh.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know, it's just the way it is down here.
We're we've got our own brand of psychosis. And now
we look over our shoulder and we see, you know,
from DC to Hollywood, everybody's losing their ever loving mind
and we're just like, wow, welcome to the party. Pal.
It's kind of our end. Yeah, but we're uh, now,
we're doing good down here, just enjoying all the mayhem,
as it were. Surprisingly, though, it's almost as if I

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don't know, Hollywood in the entertainment realm is being overshadowed
and eclipsed by all the mayhem. It's kind of a
it's kind of a caser. We had to root around
to actually find some news for a change.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, okay. It's like usually, when you know, we're
putting together the stories for the show, when we're going
through the trade sites, we can fill a whole show
just with like the last ten to fifteen hours. Some
of these stories. I had to go back two days
if I I mean, you know, okay, when weading through this,

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you really have to dig through the don't care about
that relationship, don't care that they signed on with that agency,
don't care about this, don't finding actual news, especially business news.
You know, it's a couple of sites. They have their
own business section. The rest of it is you got
to dig through fucking Taylor Swift and somebody having a
beef for you know, some shit, and uh so yeah,

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it's uh but yeah, I'd go back a couple of
days to find some of the stories for today. That's
unheard of.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, because I mean usually I'm you know, in the
course of covering the media and everything, I'll be finding
stories and plucking them. It's like, oh, that'll be for Thursday. Okay,
that's for the next show. And got up this morning,
I was like, my pantry's a little empty here. I
don't I don't have stuff. I gotta dig back a
little bit. So now we've we do have a full slate. However,

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because we are that prop we know what we're doing.
I mean kind of almost looks like most of the
news this week is going to be centered on streaming.
A lot going on there, it seems streaming.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Mergers and not everything on the digital side.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And while I'm doing that too, it even dawned on me.
I was like, wait, it's like, is there anything going
on in theaters because I ain't heard Jack and.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
No, this is like the pre Thanksgiving lull. But there
is really good horror films out well.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I mean this weekend they're going with Black Phone the sequel.
A lot of people are jazzed about that. But it was,
you know, while I'm watching stuff at night before bed
and stuff like that, when I'm streaming, I'll see ads
come up and it was like, oh, you know, I've
been not getting pumbled, but just like a regular dose
of Tron Trot is coming, the next Trot. Look at it, it's

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everything red, come on, next Tron is coming. It's like, cool,
on's that coming out? And then it was like, wait,
hold on, what's the day that didn't it come out?
Heard almost nothing about this?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Weirdly, yeah, yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Heard in the trades, but it wasn't pouring out all
over the news feeds either. It wasn't like, oh my god,
guess what happened. I was at a loss.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah. I mean the only thing I heard about it
was a couple of weeks ago, Bruce box Fighter was saying,
please go see Tron because I got snubbed in this one,
and then maybe they'll bring me back for the next one. Yeah,
that's about it. And this week has been the.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oof, tepid promotion that huh. And the whole time any
of these you know, the trailers would come up with
the commercials or such, my reaction was always the same.
It was like, really it went with Ledojared Liedo on
this one. Wow, Okay, turns out that was actually the reaction.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, because once again our prescience about Lido being box
office poison and here we are.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, he's one of these guys that Hollywood kept insisting
is an a lister and yet just never really managed
to hit that mark.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I really wanted fetch to happen.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
So true, And it's you know, kind of like looking back,
it's like, what is he known for? And I remember
he was a jackass on the set of Suicide Squad
when he was trying to make his own mark with
Joker and promptly ended up with about ten minutes of
screen time.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Maybe yeah, they really cut him out of that one.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And yeah, where where is he? Where's he at? What
was done? So going into the week end, the projections
on this were a rather scattershot of fair. It was
like forty to fifty five mil and global maybe ninety.
They were saying, you know, there was a lot of

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expectations kind of riding on this.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, one hundred and eighty million to make this thing,
and so using our math, we're looking at probably just
under three just shia three is what it's going to
have to make to break even.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm going to go with a little more than that,
probably three point fifty maybe four.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
This is a Disney because you've got a.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Factor in promo and it really did you know, I
was going to say this is one that would get
bailed out overseas and it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Ate So no, it really isn't.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
They're coming in and saying, hey, was the number one
movie you have the weekend? Yeah, of course they are.
But as I said, they were looking at a fifty
mili return on this, thirty three million in North America
and overseas, and only it didn't even hit thirty. So
a lot of times if this kind of big picture
doesn't catch fire in America. They look for that global

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box office to boost it. No, not this time. So
here's how bad it's gonna be for Disney Looks projections.
If it does follow a course of like a sixty
mil drop on a wide saturation release like this, it
might reach the opening weekend projections at the end of

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the second weekend, but maybe fall short of that.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean this, even though there's nothing out there,
this is gonna start hamrhaging from theaters pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
And that's that just underscores the failure. There was no competition.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, and that's I mean everything about this. So we
talked about Leto, but it's got Jack em Roning directing
this to you will remember him or you won't. From
Pirates to the Caribbean, Dead Dead Man, Tell No Tails,
the weakest of those films. I think there wasn't another
one after that one. He also kills franchises.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like back in the day the Rock was walking around
and trying to call himself franchise viagra, because if he
gets brought in in a franchise, is reinvigorated in the
box office.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
This guy's the opposite. Yeah, he's kind of like the
Rosie O'Donnell where she's a Viagra blocker if you will,
right the yikes. Yeah, so this thing nah, And it's
a classic case now where they had they had a
part four already slated and now there's question blurks.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean, well, okay, this is just such a I mean, okay,
so take Ledo and everything else out. This was just
sold a style over substance. Hey, it looks cool. What's
it about. No fucking idea? Tron. Well, I saw the
rematch Slider and box Slider isn't in this, so not Tron.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I mean years ago when they redid this. I
actually saw the movie. Zero retention on it. Besides the visuals. Yeah, yeah,
light cycles, sky blue coloring. That's all I really know.
I like, I remember there were like accidents and instead

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of debris, it was pixelation and stuff like that, and
it was kind of, oh, that's kind of cool. That
was interesting visual plot. I have absolutely no idea, and
I think it was Daft Punk did the soundtrack. That's
my retention of the Drawn remake. So this one didn't

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have like a crushing demand and people were not stampeding
the theaters. And then.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Is really red like Neon red, like c D part
of town, neon red.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
The bad part of the tracks, or like the path
and yeah, that's it. That is that is it? So
this it's not boating well. And now I'm in looking
at the numbers and crunching them like we do. I
was coming across a number of articles that were saying, oh,
Jered Leto might become untouchable in Hollywood and people won't
want to cast them in rolls and where you've people been, Yeah,

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nice that you can catch up to us. Did you
all miss Morbius? What happened there?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's Mormon time? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
That is the uh? Until recently it was regarded as
the low water mark of Marvel. How bad? Was was it?
Morbius bad?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, no, I'm not quite okay.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Then it's a right, was it she Hawk bad? Well,
it's not on it, that's on streaming. You're comparing apples
and oranges. Yet that doesn't okay?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
So yeah, we are well, I mean that happened with
Captain America Winter Soldier. We're like, oh, these numbers are
not looking good. Is it gonna get over? Morebius? I
mean literally they were looking.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
For that, right, I think we asked that.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
As long as we clear that hurdle, we're fine. Yeah.
That's that's Jared Leto for you, and Hollywood now is
finally saying, yeah, maybe this guy's not gonna cut it.
Good good to you to catch you up to us.
Thanks guys. But that's about.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
The flash and the movie. Maybe he'd be less toxic.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Definitely would be less experience of his own head up
his own rectum.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
But that's that's what you're gonna get. Find myself, someone
who loves you as much as Jared Leto loves himself.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Perfect entry there, because the the only notable I guess
performance I can say I know about him in the
last ten years is when he went to the met
and carried around his own head. Yeah that's about it.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, that that's really I mean when you mentioned Jared Leito,
that's the picture that pops into my head. Oh yeah,
that guy.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
All the time. I don't have like recall of movie
scenes with him in it or anything of the sort.
He's literally he's like, oh yeah, the jackass had carried
himself around. I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I mean I briefly picture him as the Joker, but
then you know, DiCaprio slide into its place or Nicholson.
You know, he quickly gets replaced in my head canon.
It's like, no, that's not the joker here, I have
somebody that was good.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, it's that, or just the Grand Black poster for Morbius,
because I kept seeing that as I was watching the
box office on that movie Not Grow for a couple
of weeks. That was about it.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
What's crazy I think with Leo some was that Jeff
is how many people have forgot he actually started out
as a musician.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I totally forgot that.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Thirty Seconds to Mars.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Absolutely forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I well, you know what I always hear about the name.
I don't think I've ever heard a single note. It's
kind of like Keanu wh and Dogstar. I know he's
got the band. Yeah, and that's that's the extent of
my knowledge, honest opinion.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Thirty second to Mars is not bad, not great, but
they're not bad.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
He should have stuck with that. Yeah, but it's like
the one time I think, you know, when I think
of when I think of the band Fell Trauma, Oh yeah,
that's right. The front man is the guy who is
the brother the guy who played the two one thousand.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, you can always play six degrees with Kevin Bion
can't wait.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well that's literally about it. How what I mean? Black
Phone two comes out this weekend. I know that's on
the way and everybody kind of raves about it. And
it's one of the scariest films ever. Okay, say so,
I think they say that about just every damn Hollywood
movie release.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
But the cover of it, that is every cover of
Fangora going back to nineteen eighty one.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
You will feel shields on the edge of your seat. Yeah,
but it's I mean, that's just that doesn't scare you, Scar,
there's I mean, they're probably not as many today, but
I mean you met hell you go back ten years ago,
there were so many damn film site there was always
gonna be some jackass that gives it four stars, regardless

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of how much a piece of crap it is. And sure,
well yeah too, but then they you know, you're digging
the bottom of the barrel when you get a four
star review and it's from something like you know, Collier
or something that data. Yeah, oh I've heard of that website.
Somebody there in high school gave it four stars.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Okay, I am familiar with their listicles. They took over
where BuzzFeed failed.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
But it's it is this Uh yeah, it's just it's
it's really odd. In the last maybe a month or so,
I haven't heard, you know, like the hype. Hey, the
holiday movies are coming, Hey, this big thing is getting released.
There's a whole lot of nothing of that going on.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
It seems like.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
There really is.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean I have seen next to no stills, no promos,
no one sheets for anything coming out.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean I've heard a couple of little blurbs
about you know, oh this is this movie's oscar bait
came out of Toronto. And of course these are going
to show up in like five hundred theaters. Nobody's going
to see them, and you know, the people at their
head up their ass websites are going to be raping
about it. Oh you got to see the performance in
this black and white film that's ninety minutes.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Sure n subtitled, And.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know, I'm just gonna go ahead and take
your word for it.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Think of how many people have no idea that Wicked
Too comes out next month.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I really forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Too on the list.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Actually, I look forward to mocking that when it comes out.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Like if you were hosting a holiday dinner party and
your invitation themes were wicked artwork. Yeah, I regard that
as well. Oh you don't want Brad to go.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I suddenly came down with COVID.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's like, oh, I think that's the weekend Slow Horses
comes back out, and oh yeah, I got a visit.
Sorry here, that's a little bit of a segue. We'll
be getting into Apple in a bit. Pretty much. It
for pretty much, it for there's just when you've got
to dig around, like it's like, holy crap, I haven't

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been on deadline in like two three weeks, what's going on?
And then I scroll through it and most of it
is like, huh what so that's a that's our lot,
but onto streaming since that's where all the activity is.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, this is a.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Bit of a rarity though for us. Netflix actually is
having a little bit of trouble.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, they are. Uh, you know, I love this because
you know, the tweet versus the story. You know, the
tweet from CNBC versus the story CNBC two totally unrelated topics. Absolutely,
they are related in the fact that they are about

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Netflix and everything we're about to talk about. But the
doom in the tweet versus the optimism in the article.
I it's almost Cramer like.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, I've got over a town hall on my media column,
cover it daily, and I've got a whole number of
categories there in order to just organize everything. And one
of them I call it presentation paradox for exactly. And
that's when the headline and even the subheader say one thing,
and then you read through the article and they managed

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to completely contradict themselves.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, but you know what, the tweet has a graph,
the article doesn't. So the tweet tells the story.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Ah, well it's And the whole reason this one jumped
out at me is because as we have been covering
Netflix for the regular among all the streamers, they seem
to be defying the trend and just they're smoking, They're
just you know, on point. They are making money, they're

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spending crap ton and subscriptions keep growing on a global scale.
I mean, they just can't lose. So this is I'm
gonna regard it as that this is more like an
interruption in the momentum because if yeah, the chart is
it does look bad. And what has happened is a

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couple of right leaning outfits or outlets have been alerted
to the fact that there's some content now on Netflix
with LGBTU or trans themes in it content. The difference
being they're in shows geared.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
To children, they're in cartoons.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, so that's you know, it's not like, oh my god,
they had a transpier guy. It's like, no, you know,
my little pony is going gender free. Then you got
a little bit of a different issue going.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
And so.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know, a lot of conservatives online and elsewhere we're
sitting pointing this out and doing the boycott thing, you know.
And this is different than cancel culture because cancel culture
has with it more of a power based finality. It's
more like, you said this, you deserve to be dead,

(21:17):
you know. Get whatever you're doing is over your career,
you know, there's like an overt finalization to it, whereas
in a boycott is merely you saying I don't want
my money going.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
To that right And that's the one thing that they
that the left never seem to figure out. Cancel culture
is against an individual, a boycott is against a business.
You know, you are choosing to no longer give, like
you said, your money to this particular organization because their
views do not align with yours. That is perfectly legitimate.

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I'm not always a fan of boycotts because they generally
do nothing, especially since all of well a good portion
of American business has figured out, don't bend the need
to anyone right or left.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yes, the left is where those are louder, and they
attach a lot of imagery to their wailing and gnashing
of the teeth, whereas the right justikes him fucking I'm
canceling my subscription, Fuck off Netflix.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah. And the other difference too, is that most of
the cancel culture activity is on social media, which represents
a minuscule percentage of your customer base usually, And you know,
so it's like, oh my gosh, all these people on
Twitter are rankering, and then the company comes out and
bends the knee. Were you apologizing? We didn't mean to offunded?

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And it's like, wait a second, are these even your customers? No,
The difference is a boycott that people are saying, wait
a second, they don't represent my values. I'm not going
to represent them with my cash. And you make a
business decision. If that then sways the business, then and
then you're affecting things in a properfessional I'll say, because

(23:04):
that's the free market case in point bud light. When
that's going on, a lot of people on the left said,
oh my god, I thought the conservatives were against cancel culture.
It's like, well, we are. We're just I'm not giving
but like my money anymore. That's you know, they're not
saying but like should go out of business or anything
of the sort. It's just like I don't want to
deal with them. Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, that's the difference. So you know, when you're talking
about a boycott, you are making a personal financial decision.
You are not trying to ruin somebody's life. If somebody
happens to get fired for a bad business decision, once again,
that is business. You know that that that's the business
making that decision. You know, we're not shooting them in
the street because we disagree with them.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah exactly. They you know, calling up and saying there's
not something mean online you have to fire them? Great,
who the hell are you? Yeah, my name is Tony
Underscore four six seven blue on Twitter whereas in all
of a sudden, you wake up the next morning and
you're staring at ten thousand cancelations, or people are no

(24:07):
longer going to your movie and watching your show and
the ratings tank. That's the business side of things. So yes,
that is what Netflix has been experiencing. Because when the
call went out, or at least the notification was, hey,
are you sure you want to do business with them?
When they're trying to put trends in your kids cartoons?
Netflix actually felt it. There were significant amount of cancelations,

(24:32):
and the stock actually went down significantly. I think over
the course of a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, between Monday, between last Monday and last Friday, I
went down four point four percent, which I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
And here's the significance of that. That took place while
the dal Jones was hitting record.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Highs, right, So it wasn't like, oh, it just you know,
tracked the the trend now and when you're when you're
talking about a share price of twelve thirty, twelve hundred
and thirty, not twelve dollars and thirty cents, that that's
a significant you know, five percent, that's a huge market cap.
You just watched vaporize exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's that's massive, and you know what, you're what we're
basically talking about here is the classic case of people
voting with their wallet. We saw it with American Eagle
when the online forces were like, oh my god, she's
a Nazi. You got to get this blonde girl in
her cleavage off the air. And then people are like,
I kind of dig that, and I'm buying jeans and
the company ended up spinning what one hundred and fifty

(25:36):
mil two hundred mil marketcap as a result. Ye, that's
the difference right there. I mean, I love that story
so much because it's the difference between the bitching and
monent on social media to the actual marketplace.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Well not just the marketplace, but actual America not to
I mean, that goes beyond business. That's you know, real
Americans going out and support it with real money. You know,
that's a Hey, I like what you're doing. I can
buy my fiftieth pair of Levi's, or I can get
some American Egle brand because you know what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Fuck.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
You know, it's it's kind of like, you know, when
Glenn Beck had his gene company, which was so fucking
expensive but uh, you only had to buy one pair.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
No, it's it kind of goes to what we've always
talked about, where you know, the country has made this shift.
I just talked about it at cn end today over
at Red State, where they had a lengthy article about
the return of the male gaze and how poisonous that
is not blest the male gaze. They you know, it

(26:42):
was just my I think my favorite pole line in
that was and we thought we had all agreed to
get away from death. We agreed on it. No, you
bitched and moaned and everybody rolled their eyes. That wasn't okay,
We're sorry. Yeah, but I just love where we are
now as a country where you'll go and buy America jeans.
Some reactionary it will say, oh you're wearing those. I

(27:04):
didn't know you were a Nazi and people are now
looking at them, going the hell are.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
You talking about? Yeah, I didn't know these genes were
designed by Hugo Boss.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm not sure your connection or where your head's at
or why you're talking to me, but I'm going to
go now. You know, that's pretty much what's going on
in the country these days.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
So I love that, you know, and I love the
message shows Like, Okay, I thought we did away with
the male gaze. Simultaneously you have TikTokers complaining about dudes
that are staring at them and like two days later
doing a video about how nobody's checking them out.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sure, it's always a case or and in the case
of this article, it was them getting mad at men
looking at somebody else. So you're mad that the hot
looking girl is there, and we like that. That's what's
fucking And the thing is nobody ever dres this is
the female gays, right, you know, the.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
I mean chicks by their men gray sweatpants for a reason.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It is I just I saw notice that it's gray
sweatpants season right now. It is Yeah, Pumpkin Spice and
Grace weatpants apparently or come out at the same time. See,
I'm I'm disconnected from this because I live in Florida.
Our our last about six weeks in February.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Talk about the male gaze for a second. I don't
know what it is about the women our age up
in northern Nevada, but for some reason they retained the
body that they could probably still fit into their cheerleader
or uniform.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Really It's a.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Fascinating trend that I have seen nowhere else in the country.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I was walking around the other day and just just
dragging my fucking jaw all over the place.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Look at you. Okay, you're well situated this time of life.
I am in his prime. But this is you know,
and I'm bringing all of this up because there was
another trend actually spotted this week in which and you
had to find this because the media is not reporting
on it, but the amount of youth in this country

(29:24):
that are self identifying as trans is plummeting.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Which goes back to what I've been saying all along
that it's a social contagion, a bunch of fucking board
kids during COVID who had nothing else to do. But
I'm trans too, and then after a couple of years,
like god, this is fucking exhausting.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, so that's that's happening as Netflix is trying to
tap into this market that is dwindling before their eyes.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah. You know.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
The interesting thing about this is all this hullabaloo is
about about a cartoon that was canceled two years ago.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah. True, Well, the issue was they had actually commissioned
two years of the show, which is a little bit
of a rarity for Netflix. They don't usually they put
something out in a wait to see, but yeah, uh
they actually yeah, they pretty much gave them the green
light for a second season. And so it is the

(30:22):
second season that's unraveling and canceled at the same time.
So the company is just like, all right, we try
to tap into this when trans was the thing, and
it's finally coming out as trans is not the thing,
and in the process that audience is disappearing and you've
pissed off your actual subscribers. Oops.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, that's the perfect storm of dumbfuckery. It's just, you know,
sometimes it's just worth it, not.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Not Well, how many times on the show have we
discussed it where the every week the market for trans
individuals in this country is less than minuscule.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's like there's been gay acceptance for nine thirty years
now and dudes couldn't get the tiniest fraction of the
gay community to watch it. Was it dudes or guys
or whatever? Was that?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh, bros, bros, thank you the movie. Yeah, the gay
rom com Mm hmm, what you get? I mean, put
it out, Like I've always said, if you want your
people represented and make something for your people. Well they
did that and the people didn't show.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Up, right, So yeah, I mean it's yeah. I'm not
saying don't do it. You go ahead, but the thing is,
don't drag a whole franchise down with you while you're
doing it. Disney multiple franchises.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, I think this is this is Netflix actually getting
caught up in overthinking something and I think, yeah, two
three years ago, oh my god, everything can't turn around it.
There's trands everywhere, and then they sign on for this
show for two years. The very next thing that happens
is bud light blows up. Oh oh, and then once

(32:16):
this show finally does come out, it's a downward trend
that you know, basically, trans is not the hot new
trend that it used to be. I'm that we have
all of these people in Hollywood that have trans children.

(32:37):
It's kind of weird how that happens. How you people
are entertainments.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I guarantee you in the next three years, not a
single one of them is trans and the stars never
talk about it. The age is going to be sitting
there going what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, you know, I mean, Elliott Page, you know, went
through the whole process as an adult perfectly fine, that's
that's sure. We're saying is enough and you got the
June work, make the commitment, go for it. But when
you're twelve years old, it's still trying to figure out
life as well as fractions. Let's maybe not do some

(33:18):
permanent surgery, is my point.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, if you've still got haven't gotten a handle
on how seeds work, maybe.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So it's yeah, it's literally a case here where Netflix
has just kind of caught themselves and it's basically it's
interrupted their run. But if you go back and you know,
like I checked the stock out and it's kind of
flatline over the last couple of weeks, you know, it
did this dip. It's kind of recovered, but now it's
dipping again. But if you look at the year long chart,

(33:51):
they're they're in great shape. Like you said, over eleven
hundred dollars a share. That's kind of healthy.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, Jeff just dropped the story in the uh in
our green room, and this is Netflix fixing you. This
little thing will completely wash off all the Council subscriptions.
Uh AMC and Netflix have finally decided to work. This
is coming from discussing film AMC and Netflix, I finally

(34:20):
decided to work together. The theater Chan will show K
Pop Demon Hunters on four hundred screens during Halloween with
discussions of ongoing. Discussions are ongoing for other theore at
theatrical opportunities.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
So it's uh, yeah, basically, they are looking at something
that's hot on Netflix, let's put it in theaters and
visit that. So yeah, not a bad idea. I mean,
if it works, go for it. And just six I
just noticed this actually the other day when I was
doing an airport room with somebody on XM. And Netflix

(35:00):
has its own channel in the comedy block, and I mean,
talk about some great synergy there. So they'll play, like,
you know, a one minute, two minute clip of a
comedian that they have on the platform from the Netflix show. Yeah,
and they'll cycle through a number of those. So if
you're driving, you're like, oh, that guy was funny. I'm

(35:20):
gonna go home and watch. I mean, that is just
brilliant marketing right there.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I'm sorry, No, it really is.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
And this is my point. It's most of the time
they hit so when this one little controversy comes up
and interrupts them I'm pretty sure that they were like, yeah,
we missed on that one. We made a bad call.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I mean, just because we're talking about Netflix. Another story
that I passed on is Netflix is working with Spotify
to showcase video podcasts.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh really now yeah, yeah, because they were was I
think we've and disgusted like six months or even a
year ago that Netflix had its eye on podcasting. But now, yeah,
vid casting makes a lot more sense for that platform. Sure,
So that's that's interesting and all the more reason for
Jeff to start badgering us to get on video.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
She had to go on VIC.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Like I needed another excuse. I see Jeff making a spreadsheet.
Now you know, if we look at the.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Numbers, already have one called it.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
As well.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I mean, going for the Nobel Prize. And he doesn't
want to just report on the Nobel Prize in Economics.
He's going for the Nobel Prize in Economics. A tailor
and the model.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
So just like Trump, he's lobbying for the trophy. According
to her Time magazine, the guy who was in office
all of a week and a half before nominations closed,
but he was begging for it. But it's no I think.
I think Netflix overall is going to be fine. They'll
probably weather this storm. One of the other things we

(37:10):
talk about a lot here is Apple Plus and its
streaming service and.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Basically how it's not with the same reverence though.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
No, it's it's quite different, as in who the hell's
watching it? And again our presence comes to the fore
in the story as this indicates how much trouble they've
had getting and or retaining subscriptions. There's something unique going

(37:45):
on in that if you go to most of the
major streamers, they have an auxiliary I guess you could
call it that subscription for other services. You know, let's
say there's a particular show you want, it's like, oh,
get the Stars upgrade for another four ninety nine a
month or something like that. Sure, this is a lot

(38:06):
more significant because it's an entirely different streaming service. It's
not you know, like a cable channel plus you can get,
or MGM plus something like that.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, it's not. It's not a subsidiary of the company,
you know, it's not like, you know, Amazon owns MGM,
so they'll throw in MGM Plus even though it's really
an Amazon property. So you feel like you're getting something,
but you're really it's.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Just yeah, it's already in house. We'll we'll throw it
in there plus if you act now that kind of thing. Yeah,
but this is a partnership now, so Apple plus is
going to do I guess you could call it bundling
with Peacock right, a single price point for both streaming services.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
But you don't get the full of either of them.
That that's where I'm confused with this. So for fifteen
bucks a month, you get Apple's, like you know, their
flagship shit like ted Lasso and shit like that, and
you get most of Peacock, and you may get some
first like f one you'll get like later this year,

(39:19):
you know, but you don't get it now, you know.
So it's kind of like they're still keeping their in
house ship in house and they're just letting out the
you know how okay you he like when we'll use
paramount as example, you know, when one of their properties,
one of their cables shows or their streaming services has
a really hot ticket, then they'll show it on the

(39:42):
broadcast or on one of their cable channel, like fuck Yellowstone.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, so this is like that, It's like, okay, you'll
get the first few seasons of ted Lasso, but you
don't get the new stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well that's I guess it gives them room for an
upgrade too, you know, and it's like, yeah, I really
enjoy this. Oh there's even more, and then you have
to you have to pody up or something. But it
might even be a case of what we see frequently
in the streaming ratings, and that is the shows that
are on two platforms do so much better. And this

(40:23):
might be able to get Apple Plus shows more exposure
as a result, and so put ted Lasso on Peacock
and you might get even more viewers. POSSI it's I
think it's a sign that they're struggling and they're looking
for a solution basically.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Well, that and the logo rebrand or the name rebrand
that was I mean, this is have we finally seen
the death of Plus?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
But over day what was it three months or so ago,
the brilliant marketing move where Max reverted back to HBO
Max because people really didn't know what.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
The greatest walk back of all this the greatest walk
of shame of all time. And so now Apple Plus.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Has made the the fact that they had to make
an announcement for this cracks me up. It's like they've
come up with a vibrant new branding. They they took
away the plus, they took the.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Glowing plus off. But here's the thing is that I
don't know anybody who calls it Apple TV plus. They've
all just they've always just called it Apple plus. I mean,
we do that on the show. So now to get
rid of the plus, are we supposed to call it
Apple TV? Because if we just call it Apple.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, But the thing is Apple TV. Apple TV is
something else though. That's their hardware for streaming for you
know that that's their version of Roku in other words,
or getting cable channel or what have you. Sure, so
now they're blurring that too. If I could have the
tv AM, I get the streaming service, or I'm buying

(42:07):
the box for my television.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Boy, you can really tell Steve Jobs is dad, It's.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
It's yeah. The the marketing and the decisions and streaming
is it's getting fascinating. I'm not gonna say successful, because
a lot of head scratching going on these days in there,
but there was actually one I forgot to throw at
you story wise, Okay, bringing up Prime. Did you see

(42:39):
what they did with James Bond.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Uh checking the guns out of all the one.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Sheets, because like you said, they now own MGM, and
MGM's premier property is the James Bond franchise. So Prime
has every James Bond movie now available and.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
For me like Brauden has just stroking his cock.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, it's they have you know what we call a
one sheet that's basically the poster for a movie or such.
They have all the one sheets for all the James
Bond movies, and these things are about as homogenized as
they get. Yeah, most of them have some kind of
pastel background with just the character in a pose from

(43:27):
the original movie poster. And Amazon Prime had to digitally
erase all the guns.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, the Walter p PK removed from all that.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
When you know, we we know that one famous shot
of Sean Connery. He's got his arms crossed with the
pistol in his hand, barrel pointed upwards. You know, it's
just a badass shot. Yeah see, yeah, not anymore. And
there's a number of dimes you see, you can see
them actually where the gun like Piers brought you said,

(44:00):
he's got it. He's making your fist just below his chin.
It's because he used to have the gun there, and
now it looks like he's doing the wink.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Offf gesture, which is quite apropos Yeah, this is actually,
this is actually more violating than when they took all
the guns out of et and put in walkie talkies.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
And I saw one.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Like one shot.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Oh no, you can't have that. But if you look
at just a collection of the posters, it looks to
me like it's a catalog for some fay European fashion spread.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Are those chinos? That's like, I'm wonder are those on sale?
Oh it's a movie I did.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I'm sorry I was I missed the moon Breaker?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
But I get that sweater? Is that? Is that the specter?
What kind of materials that made out of? Is it?
I don't get it?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
At least at least they haven't taken Tolkien out of
Lord of the.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Rings yet, you know that, you know that full well.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I'm waiting for his estate to demand that. Actually yeah, yeah,
can you make.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Our name out of your womouth?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah? Well, while you're air brushing things. Yeah, but it's
it got to be bad enough that after a couple
of days Prime actually felt enough heat that they went
ahead and reverted to using a still shot from each
movie instead, but still making sure there's no gun. I

(45:44):
don't understand this no gun policy on movie posters when
it's James Bond.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Right, I mean, it's like one of the three things
he's actually known for.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
Yeah, broad take the rifle shot out of you know,
the you know, the the barrel cam out of the
opening of them too.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well, this is the thing if they're but I can't
figure out is are they trying to tamp down the
violence because this is the same company that put out
the Jack Reacher series. The what's the one with Chris
Pratt when he's in the military that just came out.
I mean, no, no, it's the I can see the

(46:31):
poster too, and I can't get the damn name. But
it again military violent, a ton of people dying it.
I saw it.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
It's a terminals.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
There you go, and they're putting out the product, but
you don't want to advertise it. We don't want to
come to see it. Okay, So the kid's gonna see
the poster and think, oh, this is this is no violent.
I can watch it, and then they get exposed to violence.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Well done, Yes, sex, drinking and violence, because I thought
it was an ad for that Cardigan.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Now your eight year old is gonna come home from
schools like how a school today? I can't. It sucked.
Just give me a martini, whe shaken nuts, ThReD, make
with it, mom, I'll be upstairs with Vesper. Yeah, but
I don't the thinking behind this cracks me up. I
don't don't.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
That's why I love doing the show because so much
of what they do makes absolutely zero fucking sense.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's Hollywood, and this is why we love it. Well,
the I guess we could segue from streamers to the
news divisions because they're having the time of their.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Lives peacock to NBC. Uh, that's that's lateral that tracks.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah. So recently we talked about how MSNBC has been
spun off and this month entirely cut off into the
just gone get the hell out take it things you've done.
Any day now they will be changed to MS now
and yes, your people are going to give a damn

(48:12):
I promise you. Well, despite this, the parent.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Network has some issues.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
NBC just laid off one hundred and fifty people, seven
percent of its workforce.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Yeah, that's out of the newsroom. That's not like NBC
NBC News. Yeah, NBC.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
What here's the interesting aspect of it, talk about hate
and intolerance. Most of the cuts involve any of their
verticals or any of their dedicated news divisions towards minorities
m so like their black news coverage division, Asian LGBTQ.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah, they're they're DEI uh pretty much.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, the DEI products now are going to be cut off.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
You know what I keep forgetting and this is gonna
be absolute fucking gold. Versana is a publicly traded company,
so the news CNBC and NBC. You know, we've talked
about them splitting up, but I keep forgetting that Versant
is a publicly traded company which will be beholden to shareholders.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Hmm, now is it I don't think it's trading yet?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Is it not yet? But I mean it's like you said, well, yeah,
but I mean, you know that's Comcast, and Comcast is
publicly traded and Time war yes, but you see there
is a whole huge conglomerate of that that you know,
if somebody stops buying stock in Time Warn or you
know whatever they're called now, Warner discovery because us of

(50:01):
something that aired on AMC or whatever one of their channels.
That's not looking at the big picture. That's just like,
oh we saw a mild downturn. This is all of
NBC's shit properties are going under one umbrella and will
be publicly traded.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. I think I want to
say New Year's is when it kicks off officially as
versus completely segregated, because right now, right now MSNBC is
going through the changes. They cut off from the news division.
Right now, they're no longer affiliated with NBC. Throughout this month,
they have to get rid of their activity, like on

(50:45):
the property at Washington, DC, for instance, they can't use
their cameras and facilities. They had to move out of
studio space. Pretty much. By the end of the month,
they're on their own. And then vers the cables.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Or yeah, you're no longer thirty Rock anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, they've already been kicked out of there. There. Their
correspondence in d C no longer are using NBC platforms,
you know, like I said, the televisions and remote spots
and things of that nature. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting,
definitely something for us to watch once it goes public,

(51:25):
because for one, cable's dying in general, and two specifically,
MSNBC is just a ship show and only getting worse.
Speaking of cable news.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Channels that are dying, was that I'm.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Gonna say, speaking of cable news channels that are dying, CNN.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Has we're doing it again.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I hope there are NFTs.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
So CNN the news network, everybody forgets about it any
longer they know it exists. Nobody watches it. And when
I mean nobody watches it, I mean yeah. Their primetime
news shows are drawing less than five hundred thousand viewers total,
not demographic total.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah, that's that's a half share on primetime. That's that
shit gets canceled.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
They're losing to reruns of Bonanza.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I'm just a manchest guy and the dude I'm Hungry.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
They get their ass kicked by SpongeBob. Okay, this is
how bad things are at CNN. Nobody's watching it for free. Hey,
why don't we roll out a premium subscription.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Service seven bucks a month or seventy bucks a year
if you buy in bulk. They're having a launch promotion
of forty one to ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Though I still want to know, as a former CNN
Plus lifetime subscriber, shouldn't I be getting this for free? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I would write a letter.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I mean, this is the forever stamp of news.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
But what makes it funnier is that this is the
third attempt at CNN getting into the digital streaming because
you know, like Brian Stealter, of course whore that he is,
has to be out there pimping this excitedly. Everybody's paying

(53:38):
attention and watching because this is going to be the
only news show that It's like Brian, everybody's watching to
see this blow up for a third time.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, CNN plus different.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Under CNN Plus they spent billions on it did not
last a month, yep.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
But there were a lot of NFTs, So.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I wonder what the market is for those, Like if
you tried to turn around and sell one of those
right now, where would you do that?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
And that would happen.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
But then about a year or so ago, speaking of
Max now HBO Max, they were desperately trying to roll
it out on that platform, and so you would be
in uh, let's say you were on there watching sports
or something like that and they would break in with
CNN updates or they would start the program with the

(54:36):
CNN blurb or something. It's like, hey see you then
pluss now on Max nobody did. They just canceled that
a month ago to prep for this role. So that's
two digital rollouts for CNN that have gone away.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
So here's what happened with that. God, I can't believe
that was three years ago. Yeah, yeah, that's a vault
by CNN n FT's of historic news moments. They bought
them all back at twenty percent of the original mint
price and there is no official value.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Ow really now, was that like a mandatory buyback or
because they own all of them? What did they like
call them back? It's like, okay, we're taking it back
and here's twenty percent.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Of basically, sorry, you know what, here's twenty And here's
the thing that I was like, no, you give me
one hundred percent of my investment. You're the one who
pulled the rug on this. This wasn't like the market crash.
You pulled the rug. You and your twenty percent. I
want my six ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
So CNN did the hawk to a coin.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Well done, Yeah, they did the meme coin because they
are a meme.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Just gotta love it, damn. So yeah, now they're expecting
people to pay for the cable news service that they
don't want to watch for free.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Is the how to eat that whole thing. We will
find our hardcore fan base somewhere. Well, you had them,
and then you lost your contract for the reports.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Well it's just and it's like that. I had to
crack up too. I talked about that CNN piece, you know,
the male gaze that was behind a paywall.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Of course it was.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
And the funniest of all was in the in the
body of it, they were bitching and moaning that the
trend now is for weight loss products and women working
out and people on TikTok are showing their their cooking
skills and how they're what they're eating to lose weight.
And they're complaining about this in the Health and Wellness
division of CNN.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah, that whole body positivity thing. I mean, you know
what I I think it was when even when the
Lizzo realized how bad she had gotten and then she
God bless her for she's she's trying. And you know,
I'm not gonna say she looks good, but she looks better.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
And maybe get rid of one of my favorite jokes.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I know that was a lost wanderer staple. That bitch,
that bitch. But you know what, Yeah, so this whole
body positivity thing, the only ones who are still clinging
to that are ones who have absolutely no willpower whatsoever.
Is you know what, I'm just gonna eat my box

(57:35):
of fucking oreos and watch CNN streaming well because I
have I have no self esteem.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
The body positivity thing I love, though, because it absolutely
blows up the feminist mantra altogether. Because what is it
they hate about the male gaze right now? And it's that, oh,
you're looking at these hot women with gorgeous bodies, and
it is a feminine ideal that nobody can achieve. Okay,

(58:05):
you were promoting body positivity, which means you expect women
to go eat their ass off until they're three hundred pounds,
which most people cannot achieve. So yes, you actually your argument.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, you actually attacked people for being thin, too thin
by your standards, which.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
So being healthy is something most women can never achieve. Okay, well,
I'm sorry, most women aren't going to achieve sixty stone
or whatever the hell three hundred pounds adds up to
all right. There, there you go.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I was just in northern Nevada, wrong.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Except for Ordy's part of the country.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
God damn bye gap everywhere.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Just just you know what best for you to keep
quiet so there's not a stampede of competition.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
And because the weather was shit, it was pumpkin spice
milf season up there too, so I was just I
should have just hung out in the freezer section at Costco.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I'm uh, I'm just flattered that you showed up for
the program tonight. I'm yeah, happy with that I made
it back here.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Well, see, I care.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Orty can't make the show tonight. There was a sale
skinny girl over at the mall. Got it, got it?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
The only thing I was missing was I probably just
didn't look hard enough. I probably found some good uh
you know, goth checks with pumpkin sized titties too.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
But anyway, well, the thing that you know, we were
just talking about stock and all that affecting how the
quality of programming will be. What cracks me up is that,
you know, we talked about the sky Dance CBS Paramount
merger forever for two years.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
We talked about it.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
They finalized that it's done, and now the talk is
Skydance is looking at a Warner Discovery takeover.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Mmmm, that would be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
And this is funny on a number of levels, one
of which, if you go to Brian Stelter's Twitter feed
right now, his number one his pin tweet is that
this is urbanism taking place in America, that this conglomerate
of media is what same thing we saw take place

(01:00:29):
in Hungary. Oh dark. Uh you may want to take
that down, Brian, because they're gonna be your boss suit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yeah, because nothing stops the Allisons and uh, you know
when they want something. Yeah, it's uh which you know
who who they're really gunning for in this though pun intended.
James Gunn Yeah, yeah, zas Lev may still has a job.

(01:00:59):
You know, he's the current World Warner CEO. He may
still have a job. But he did what he was
supposed to do. He shed billions of dollars worth of
debt off of Time Warner's book of Warner Discoveries books.
So does he need to say no? But can he?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
James Gunn though, who has single handedly destroyed the DC universe. Uh,
and they're gunning for him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, because he, I guess, is still in the incipient
phase of rebuilding the DCEU uh huh Superman being what
it was not very favorable.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
The only other thing he did so far I think
was the Suicide Squad. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I mean he had more success over at Marvel obviously,
because the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Only other thing he has really accomplished is getting rid
of the quality, So.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
He's done a really good job of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Gal Gadot was fantastic as Wonder Woman. Well, we got
a ship, can her?

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah? How do we make that suck?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Perry Cavill was pretty damn good as Superman. We can't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
We need we need to have this dude that nobody
could really believe a Superman, and we're gonna put it
into a story where he is the Master race.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Yeah, okay, and also getting his ass kicked repeatedly. Yeah,
that was my favorite aspect of Superman. Did you miss
out on the first half of his name? I mean,
I'm watching a movie where he's perpetually getting his ass kicked?
What's going on? And some ancillary character who's got a

(01:02:45):
flying machine is actually more powerful or at least more successful?
What are you doing? Right? And then the people raved
about this is that cracks me up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Uh, some people raved about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
I mean Supergirl was in so I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Raved about Ghostbusters twenty sixteen, raved about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
So yeah, getting rid of Gun may not be a
bad idea. Yeah, now a noble goal, I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Yeah, he pivoted from gods and monsters to a Superman
family and it's yeah. So but anyway, Ellison's got Michael
de Luca lined up to take over the DCU, and
uh yeah, he is a comic book fan. He has
a history with Man of Steel and Dark Knight writer

(01:03:36):
David Goyer. Uh so that's kind of like his gravitas
with Ellison.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Oh yeah, well, maybe we can see a Batman origin
story for the fifteenth time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I mean, perchance his parents could die.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I've heard that. You know, it's right up there with
Uncle Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I gotta say one of the one of the good
things about the Robert Pattinson The Batman movie was that
they didn't go that route, thankfully. Yeah didn't we We
We're just gonna go past that and start a little
bit later in the timeline, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
If I remember. They just they just skimmed it with
Nolan's I think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Well, yeah, it was more of a you know, like
some flashbacks a little bit or you know, there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Were Yeah, it was it was a batcave flashback or something.
Hey us, that is a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
My assumption is yes, because uh Texas versus Oklahoma game,
but I have not confirmed it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Okay, well we can breeze through, no problem, we can cut.
We get a lot of stuff. Well, stick with Warner Brothers.
I will give him some credit for this though. The
company is standing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Up to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
The proposals going a round of film boycotts of Israeli content.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, they yeah, they want to boycott Israeli filmmakers, Israeli
production company. So yeah, Paramount said, well, actually, Warner Brothers
said new one, that's against our company policy and two
that's illegal. And you know this falls on the heels

(01:05:25):
of Paramount saying the same thing about a month ago.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I just find it amazing that it's even a proposal
that would be that would have to be considered for
a number of reasons, one being, you know, the BDS
movement is a total shutdown move I mean that's pure
anti semitism of business nature. And two it involves trending

(01:05:51):
into censorship, which is something that Hollywood's supposed to be
against ardently just by nature. And three, there's quite a
few people of Jewish persuasion in the movie business have
been for generations in the fact. So I don't know

(01:06:11):
who thought it was a good idea to go to
the studios and propose banning and boycotting Israeli product I
don't uh, I don't know exactly what you're thinking in
that regard. Would almost be like the Temperance Movement going
to Anheuser Bush and asking for a donation. Right, just

(01:06:34):
do you know your audio? Do you realize what you're
talking to here? It's no, not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
And I'm looking, I'm looking at the names that are
signed on with you know, this petition that's been going
around to you know, divest from Israeli productions, and you know,
with the exception of Joaquin Phoenix, Emma Stone and till

(01:07:03):
the Swinton, I've never heard of any of these fucking people.
Oh I'm Cynthia Nixon, but that's only because she's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah, she's basically the female Mark Ruffalo these days.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Yeah, and Mark Ruffalo. Yeah, so yeah, that's not really
a lot of big names in this. I mean, okay,
who's worked more in the last decade, Emma Stone or
Gal Gado. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I also like too that there was a competing letter
that rejected the boycott, and that one was signed by
twelve hundred individuals.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Yeah, Liv Schraber, Debra Messing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah, these would be people that get it, you know,
who realize that. One again, studios have a preponderance of
Jewish people in there, and two most of their agents, right,
they know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Who runs barter Town.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
If you go to like C A A, you know,
creative artists. Just look through the role of entertainment agents
RT Steam Gold Farm. It's going to be full of those.
And I'm not being racist or any of these sort
They're just traditionally in the agency business. It's always been
that way. So what are you doing? I don't I

(01:08:27):
don't want to work in Hollywood anymore. I'm gonna sign
this letter.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
See now the people who have signed the letter that
the the counter letter that we were just talking about.
There's a lot more names I recognize on here. Gene Simmons,
Sharon Osborne, Jerry O'Connell, Howie Bendel, Jennifer Jason Lee, Anthony Edwards,
Rebecca de Marnay, Debora Messing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You know, so yeah, yeah, those are those are people
with a little more career savvy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
I'll just say that, Yeah, people with a little more
of a career.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
That that get it is how I'll describe that. Well,
this was an interesting one. We've covered before, and it's
still happening. The Los Angeles film and TV production levels
hit new lows just continue. It's I really think we're

(01:09:26):
watching true construction in Hollywood taking place. And I'm talking
across the board, like the work of leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yeah, you know, and we're not talking about Hollywood is
the Hall, you know, the big the big age Hollywood
with you know, the whole industry. We're talking Hollywood specifically,
you know, Burbank and Paramount and you know all the
you know the studios in California. Thirteen percent down for

(01:09:57):
another quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, and this is just I don't know if it's recoverable.
You know, they're trying to go the tax incentive route.
They're trying to lure productions back with incentives like that.
I think it's too late on a number of levels.
And I think not necessarily AI, but just all of

(01:10:22):
the advancements in technology right now. I mean, look how
they're selling Have you seen the advertisements for the new
Apple Phone. Yeah, it's entirely film production, right. Like they're
showing behind the scenes on set using an Apple Phone
as the camera, and there's like a massive set and

(01:10:44):
a guy is descending down and then they cut away
and you see that it's a camera person following him
down on a cable holding a rack with the iPhone
filming him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
But you know, software, editing, suites, everything else. I mean,
it is all going. It's becoming egalitarian. It's not studio
specific any longer. And real is becoming more and more available.
AI is going to start getting incorporated. It's inevitable. Why
are people going to go back to Hollywood?

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Well, I'm not just saying, I mean with the California
tax credits, you have to ask you're the ones who
got it? Were they the ones who are going to
stay in California anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Because it's okay. So, like you know, when we've talked
about this in the past, the saving grace for Hollywood
has been reality TV game shows and you know, talk
shows and shit like that. They're starting to leave. You know,
reality shows are on look at you know, the only
thing that was really saving it was like you know,
Dancing with the Stars and shit like that that's filmed
in you know, in front of a live city audience

(01:11:51):
in Burbank. But is all the ones who got the
tax credits, at least so far, are indies, you know,
So no big studio really applied for any of them.
Even though there was a slight uptick in feature film
shoot days this quarter, it's minuscule and you're talking, you know,

(01:12:16):
from above seven thousand shoot days in January twenty twenty
three to under five thousand, almost four thousand in July
of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, it's you know, you're it's gonna be cyclical to
a degree. You're gonna see ups and downs. You know,
they'll be they'll be peaks shooting times and such. But
I don't I don't see this recovering back to prior
levels at all. No.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I mean the ones that okay, so and again these
were already being filmed in California. So of the projects
that qualified for the grant, they weren't going anywhere anyway.
You've got Apple TVs, Apple TV plus the studio. Uh,
there was a new Larry David thing coming on HBO

(01:13:07):
and a couple others. But they all have to start
production in the next one hundred and eighty days or
lose the tax credit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Yeah, but the only thing I really see happening there
are productions that might leverage this. They were gonna shoot
in La anyway. It's like, yeah, we're thinking about Canada.
Here's money, here's a tax break, you know that kind
of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
They weren't really prices right went to Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Well, one of the games would have to be the
monetary exchange, wouldn't it. Yeah, guest pricing both in Canada
and the US, which, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
That'll add a wrinkle. What is the exchange right right now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Fuck? Yeah, Drew, I'm gonna say a Buddha dala.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Well, geez, I don't see this recovering really at all
at all. So that's, uh, that's kind of dire. I'm
just gonna say it. Yeah, not not good, not good
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I mean, if Hollywood can't even stay in Hollywood, what
are we gonna call it now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Pinewood, I'm gonna, uh, you know what, my head is
spinning here, I wonder because that's you know, like Pinewood
is pulling out of that Georgia outfit. I wonder if
Netflix has its eye on that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Oh god damn, that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
They if they can get their own massive soundstage production outfit,
game over right there, I mean they would be.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Netflix could pay cash for it. They really could, That's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
What I'm thinking. I mean they are, They're just prime
for it, so they can be. Uh, I mean, they
could be a self sufficient. It gets They're already competing
as far as the awards going such, they've got a
buttload of money. I mean, when they could shovel out
one hundred and fifty MILI for a Michael Bay movie,

(01:15:12):
the Chris Pratt Futuristic one, they dropped three hundred million on. Hell,
if they buy their own sound stages, it would save
them money money. Yeah, I wonder if that'll happen. I'm
looking to looking to this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
I mean with Marvel pulling out, I mean, yeah, that's
not closing a pine wind, but Marvel's palling out of Georgia.
So and that's just because the UK labor is even cheaper,
even if they do have their mandatory tea breaks. But uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, well we got this on the other side of
the scale. We're talking about budgets and such. Bluemhouse is
already going with five Nights at Freddy's two.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
It's pretty much gonna hit. We saw that because that
came out just ahead of the Bloomhouse attempt. We covered
that when they went into the Exorcist franchise and spent
a shit ton of money just in general, not even
Bloomhouse standards, and that was an abject failure. Five Nights
that Freddy's came out a couple weeks earlier. Typical Bloomhouse

(01:16:22):
shot on the cheap, quick and easy, made him tidy
little profit because then.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Mister Roger Korman of our age.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
But that's his formula. He just yeah, he knows how
to do it. He can put out a quality product
at a discount and make money doing it. Of course
there's gonna be a five Nights of Freddy's too.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
And I'm excited for this one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Yeah, it's just because Making Fox is in it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
No, I mean, yeh yeah, but no, because Matt pat
is going to be in it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
And if you don't know whot Matt Patt is, he was,
I think he was is responsible for five Knights at
Freddie Lower growing as much as it did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Yeah, well, if you've got success, you've got to stick
with it. So it makes perfect sense. And you know,
Bloomhouse being what they are, you know that he got
a cut of the profits because that's the way Bloomhouse operates.
M hmm. Mat bloom tells everybody. He's like, do it now,
we'll make money. You'll get your check, and he takes

(01:17:30):
a picture of himself FedExing it to them as it
goes out. Yeah, that's his policy, and he's guess what
happens when I do that? People want to work with me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yeah, they're not waiting for the Oh you know, we
got to see what blah blah blah blah blah. No,
I mean, yeah, here's your check. There's a tracking number.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
They have a vested interest in the production. He's like,
this way, they give their all. They you know, they're
working for their own benefit, and I get them the
benefit and my and behold success. Yes, well, I got
one other one to throw in right before we do
streaming numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
All right, lay it on me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Did you see this crap that went on with the
comedians that went out to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
No, I missed that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
They out in Riod. They wanted to put on like
the biggest comedy festival in the world. Okay, paid a
crap tond to these people. Like the low end comedians
were getting about three hundred thousand or so, and then
the likes of Dave Chappelle and such, we're getting over
a million.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
So, and this took place over a week. I think
they had maybe fifty comedians or so come out mm hm.
And this is right on the heels of the Jimmy
Kimmel controversy. So they're over there in another country talking
about out how we have more freedom here to talk
and tell jokes and we do back home in America.

(01:19:08):
I'm listening in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, where homosexuality is outlawed
and women are women allowed to drive? I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Yeah, did they have any women comedians? No, they did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
They did it. And what started to get revealed, however,
was when a number of other comedians said they weren't going,
you know, like David Cross was scorching these guys and
a number of others are like, wait, I can't say
stuff on I'm not going out there for that bull crap.

(01:19:44):
It turns out, and one of them that turned it
down actually put up the guidelines that they had to
agree to with a contract. Not allowed to make fun
of the royal family, the government, the religion, the country,
the people, I mean, their culture in general were off limits.

(01:20:09):
And there's Dave Chappelle and others talking about in America,
we can't tell the jokes we want to tell, right,
are you effing kidding me? And it's meanwhile, Jimmy Kimmel
is on the air telling the jokes that he wants
to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
All right, Yeah, that's fantastic, that's just uh god, that's
the chef.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Kiss Yeah, I didn't you know, go ahead, No, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Oh, while we're talking about Saudi Arabia real quick. I
just caught a blurb of it. I didn't get a
chance to dig into it for tonight's show. Apparently a
Saudi company has purchased Electronic Arts can confirm the sure
Shift idiot, well former flagship, you know, gold standard of

(01:21:03):
video game design. But you know what, everybody's playing fucking
indies now, nobody's playing Triple A games. So whatever, I mean,
if they can fix some of the franchises that EA
is fucked up. Great, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
They definitely got the money for it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
But yes, I mean I don't think it's gonna be
seeing a lot of Jihattis in Battlefield anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Yeah, the military games are probably gonna be altered quite
a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Yes, those are gonna suffer a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Yeah, so you won't be able to fight enemies in
the Middle East. You also won't be able to fight
him in Asia because you gotta keep your Chinese market.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
And Russia. I guess everybody's gonna go to Russia. You know,
we're going back to the Cold War guys plans. He
made that popular. We're gonna We're gonna Rainbow six the
fuck out of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Yes, every game is gonna be set in World War Two. Yeah, wait,
I don't have a laser scope. Nineteen forties. Nineteen forties.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah, Okay, we did have a confirmation for jenn and Rix,
so we got Blastardy streaming boom.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
All right, let's hit him, let's get to it. Okay.
I just want to say I skimmed through the movies.
I think we saw snow White pop up one week.
Maybe didn't have like a little bit of a hiccup
in the shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
And yeah no no, no, no, no, yeah yeah, snow White.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
That was that was for one week. Yeah. I think
that was basically a lot of hate watching going on
and people were like, wow, this does suck. Bye going
out all right, so original program This is through September
fifteenth to the twenty first, so we're just about a
month out here. Beauty in Black was the number one

(01:23:00):
digital with Black Rabbit, and then Wednesdays. Still Wednesday can't
get past three. It seems like, doesn't drop, doesn't go up,
it's always three.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Well you know, yeah, but again that's just everybody getting
ready for the new season. I checked Netflix the other
day to see if if the new season was on
yet before canceling. So it's like, okay, I'm gonna watch Wednesday.
Then maybe I'll cancel and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
There's the summer. I turned pretty Aggie, great British shows
back on. There you go, Aggie, all one hundred and
eight episodes for your enjoyment. Alien. Yeah, Charlie Sheen doc
that everybody wanted to watch. Why. I remember the train wreck,

(01:23:42):
what it was happening, and I didn't care about it. Yeah,
but Hulu's on board only murders in the Building gen
V from Prime. Then there's Bone Appetite Your majesty on Netflix.
Missed that one and then miss Rachel. Uh the movie
side k Pop Demon Hunters still reigns, Supreme.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Dam just a juggernaut. It is the squid game of movies.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Just gonna say that, Yeah, this thing just doesn't go well. Wait,
Ice Road Vengeance, that thing's still doing well. Elo over
at Disney Plus. Really didn't think there was a much
interest in that, but okay, e Superman, everybody was watching
it over there on the newly named HBO Max. No
Engine there wrong Paris Lelo and Stitch the live action

(01:24:33):
from the summer twenty eight years later. Wow, the Zombie
movie made it okay, probably just because you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Know, there was an interview they were talking to the
guys from Walking Dead and they said, you know, we
can do another fifteen season of this because there's a
lot of content in a lot of countries like that
just won't fucking die.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
But well, yeah, they're they're pushing the new one now
where it's Daryl and Carrol. Mm hmm. Just then, but
apparently everybody's raven about that. If you believe all of
the blurbs and the commercials and why would you not?
Can we got moving on? Terror comes knocking the Marcella

(01:25:11):
Borges story on Hulu. I'm trying to recall seeing them. Yeah,
I don't know, I do not know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
I'm saving a little creche of Barges story.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
But okay, one day, don't stop dreaming. Okay. Now in
the acquired series side of things, SpongeBob of course, Bluie
of course. I'm a little surprised to see swat up there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Yeah, that's really going.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
There, maybe because it bounced the Netflix from Paramounts.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Yeah, it's on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Both sharing and you got Bob's Burger's Big Bank Theory,
Law and Order. N CIS of course that's playing on
three now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Yeah, that's on Netflix and paramount I had to crack
up the other day because I want who looking for
something like see, I wait n c I what.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah. Of course everybody's got their hand in.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
It, you know, and that when it gets over on
uh Peacock as well, then it will just be all
will become n c I S. Every restaurant is Taco
Bello zone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Yeah, I'm trying to still figure out how they have
n c I S in Australia. I I mean, I
M it was under the assumption they had their own
navy over there. But maybe if it's all Ausie, is
it's still n C I s or do they have
their own I'm not that interested. I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
You just have to find out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
I'm surprised to see Heartland here because that's like a ficture,
isn't it over on Hallmark? I think that's one of theirs.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Yeah, Peacock now too, so, I mean they got hundreds
of episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Grey's Anatomy has a new season coming soon. Ellen POMPEII
is still on the show. I can't believe that. Jesus Christ,
she will not leave. And then we got Family Guys,
so I got nowhere else to go. Can't you get
cast at another show?

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Mayo aise.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Overall we took the crown.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
It was Beauty and Black.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Being Black one point three five four billion minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
And then Black Rabbit and then Wednesday. Those were the
only shows to crack a billion. So Kate Popp.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Still chugging along Best.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Movie of Course as we talked, and then Summer I
turned pretty SpongeBob, Blue Ice Road, Swatt and Bob's Burger. Really,
it's just a lot of the rehashed stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
I mean, one, I don't understand why SWAT's even in
the top ten of a choir too. I don't understand
why it's in the top ten of fucking overall. You
have no business being here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I think maybe a lot of times when they make
that initial jump to Netflix, it's new to a lot
of the audience, so they.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Just go for Yeah, but I haven't seen it. It's
new to me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
It'll be like a week or two. I'm curious to
see if season five is Slow Horses makes it probably
just I love that show a little too much. I'm
just I'm rewatching them all now and then when this
season wraps, I'm gonna binge it just a cool assion.
Gary Oldman is just hilarious in that show, The Guys.

(01:28:30):
He's a dream. He's just too good. All right, Well,
else gonna wrap it for us. So why don't you
let everyone know where they can find more of you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Orty Oh, thanks for asking. You can find me on
Twitter as Ordnance Packard. Surprisingly still, I have missed my
thirty one days of going in the last couple days
because I've been traveling. I will get back to it
tomorrow and get all caught up. Uh. Saturday, you can
find me on Juxtaposition with Rick as we continue our
deep dive into cryptids. This week Flying Cryptids, and next

(01:29:01):
week you can find me on Manorama, Rick and Ordy
and the usual places. You can also find me on
the Vincent Charles Project on Sundays and next Friday. Set
a clocks, set your calendars, we will be doing the
Kailor and Playhouse of the Day, The Earth Stood Still.

(01:29:24):
That's an awesome intro, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
That'll be big time. That'll be big time. So I
gotta ask when it comes to the Flying Cryptid, you
guys gonna do the Jersey Devil.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I'm sorry, I was losing audio for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
When are we doing what the Jersey Devil?

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Oh? Absolutely, We're doing Mothman, Jersey Devil, Thunderbird, all the
great flyers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Yeah, Paul and I were because we had a great
Jersey Devil movie lined up and then it doesn't exist anywhere.
Find it streaming at all. Right. As for myself, you
can find it over at townhall dot com. I got
a daily media column there. It's called Rift from the Headlines.
And you can see me on the front page of

(01:30:10):
Red Stage pretty much daily, where I also got a
twice weekly podcast called Liable Sources, diving deeper into the
problems with our press core in the country. And you
can hear more of me on this network, as I
just alluded to. Next Thursday, it's gonna be me and
Paul Young from Screen Rank going through bad movies on
Hollywood's Worst and it's called Disasters into Making, and we're

(01:30:33):
gonna come up with a cryptid feature ourselves. It's a
bit of a theme. Also Tuesday nights, I'm here at
eight thirty with the ever Afforvest and Aggie Reekan on
the cocktail lounge as we go through college football, drinking sports,
all kinds of crazy news. We try to come up
with any kind of leisure diversions that we can come

(01:30:53):
up with. And if you need more of me than
that less face that you do, head over to Jitter
and I'm at Martini Shark all right, already, I think
we did it. We packed to the brim as.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Usual, so absolutely filled it with jam and packed it deep.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I'll see if I can be a little more dedicated
since Hollywood's disappointing us. As we're getting into the holiday season,
we'll have to see what we can come up with
and concoct. But h we'll stay on top of it
and we'll bring more for you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Yeah. Well we always, we always bring the goods. Well,
we we find, we find the gold, even if we
got to dig for it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Indeed, it might be a little tougher work, but we
always deliver. So come back in two weeks and we'll
be back with more of the happenings in Hollywood here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
On the culture shift, all Hydra many years. Sometimes here

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on the street, I was passing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
My time way

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
He left to night build Miss dollingto size and sight.