Thu Episode #2133: The Comrade Mayor

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's the David Knight Show.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
As the clock strikes thirteen, it is Thursday, the sixth
of November, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, and
it's official Zo Ram Mom. Donnie is Mayor of New York.
Now what comes next for the Big Apple? And we
have Cash Pattel in hot water but pointing out that
an FBI director has already been fired for the same

(01:04):
kind of behavior. So why isn't cash a good question?
We're going to take a look at that and more
on today's show, So stay with us. We'll be right
back with some even bigger news. Hello, and welcome to

(02:12):
the show today. As I said, I've got bigger news.
And the big news is it's little Man's birthday. He
is one year old. He is one year old today,
So say happy birthday everyone if you would.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
He is a handful.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
As you can tell, he's gotten a lot bigger and
a lot more fun. But I just want to say
thank you all for all the kind words over the years.
We really do appreciate it, and he appreciates it too,
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So that is the big news.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I will now pass him off so.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
We can get on to the real news.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
So thank you all for joining us today. As I said,
we're going to start with Zorron Mom, Donnie.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's hard to tell if this is just the logical
progression for the politics of New York. And I want
to apologize if I offended anyone the other day. I
don't actually have any real dislike for New York.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I just have.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Simple, uh beliefs, not that I actually hate anyone from
New York. I just like to be a little bit inflammatory.
I find it more fun to be bombastic, So I apologize.
If you're from New York. I don't hate your city.
I don't hate you. I'm sorry if that was a problem.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
But here we are.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Socialist Zorn Mom Donnie becomes first Muslim mayor of New York,
and they're focusing on the fact he's Muslim instead of
the fact he's socialist, it seems in this article. But
they're both problems, aren't they. It's not simply a one
or the other thing. Both of these are issues of

(04:00):
These are things you look at and you go, I
don't think this is right for America. Socialist zo Raun
Mom Donni has been elected the first Muslim mayor of
New York in a political earthquake that puts the far
left in charge of America's largest, wealthiest city. So he's
the first Muslim mayor.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
As though the far left hasn't been in charge of
New York for a long long time.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, the conservative people of New York have been suffering.
I know, you have a friend that lives in New
York State, not New York City, and he has long
been well, maybe not apoplectic, but unhappy with the governance
of the state.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Mom.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Donnie, who becomes the big apples first Muslim mayor, defeated
former New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Republican, Curtis
Sliwa in a race that became a massive flashpoint in
national politics, taking over fifty percent of vote. And people
are not happy with Curtis Sliwa. They're very unhappy. In fact,
people are railing at him on of course, some of

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this is to do with Israel's policies.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
In fact, a.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Lot of people have become aware of what's going on
in the Middle East over the last you know, year
or so, and they're looking at the subservience then a
lot of politicians showed to the state of Israel and
going why, why in the world would you actually do that?

Speaker 6 (05:27):
What do they do for us?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
And this led to some actual backlash in the New
York City race. We actually have that clip, I believe of. Yeah, here,
let's take a look at this.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
This is a good a good indicator.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
The first Ford visit by a mayor of New York
is always considered significant. Where would you go first?

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Where would you go?

Speaker 7 (05:52):
That's right, this sounds.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
First visit.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I would visit the Holy Land, the Holy Land.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
Given the hostility and the Semitism that has been shown
in New York, I would go to Israel. Mister Tilson,
where would you go?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel, the fourth
trip trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies that's
fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Mister mom Donnie, I would stay in New York City.
My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five
boroughs and focus on that. Mister mom Donnie, can I
just jump in?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Would you visit Israel?

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Mayor?

Speaker 8 (06:27):
I will be doing as the mayor. I'll be standing
up for Jewish New Yorkers, and I'll be meeting them
wherever they are across the Five boroughs, whether that's in
their synagogues and temples, or at their homes or at
the subway platform, because ultimately we need to focus on
delivering on their concerns.

Speaker 9 (06:41):
Just yes or no.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Do you believe in it?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, look at how easy he had it. Look at
how easy they made it for him. Where are you
gonna go? Oh, I'm going to the Holy Land. I'll
be taking my fourth trip to the Holy Land. Then
I'm going to Ukraine. He simply says, I'm gonna speak
to New Yorkers. I'm going to meet them here, I'm
going to address their issues. I'm going to talk to them.

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And he wins, not just wins, but wins handily. People
are kind of sick of it, whether it's the fact
that they're mad at the subservience towards Israel, they're just
sick of the fact that politicians don't care about them
at all at all.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
They made it too obvious.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Where are you going? I'm taking my fourth trip to
Israel and then my fifth trip to Ukraine. And if
there's any time at all left over for the people
who voted me into office. Maybe maybe I'll do something
about it, but you know, I've probably got other things
on my mind. In his ferocious speech promising a new
dawn for New York, he quoted late socialist politician Eugene Debs,

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bragged about toppling a political dynasty, and launched into a
blistering attack against President Donald Trump, who is called Mom
Donnie a communist. And I agree with Trump on this.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
He is.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
He is a communist. And if any city can show
a nation how to stop Donald Trump, it is the
city that gave rise to him, said Mom Donnie, who
represents a district in the same borough of Queens where
the president was raised. So from the same stomping grounds
as Donald Trump. They'rests, and they're both Democrats from New York.

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He then directly addressed the President Trump, since I know
you're watching, I have.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Four words for you. Turn the volume up.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
And of course, Mom Donnie is nothing but a demagogue.
He's very very good at being relatable, at getting people
to think, oh man, he's one of us. But I
don't believe it for the second. I don't believe it
at all. I think being if you're able to run
a race for anything past dog catcher. Chances are you

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have some kind of backing. I'm sure Mom, Donnie does.
I don't trust him at all. But upside from this,
at least is we get to say goodbye and good
riddance to Andrew Cuomo. You know it's not all bad.
Andrew Cuomo is out the door. So the former governor

(09:23):
had a bad record, a worse attitude, and zero vision.
And this is by Christian Britshkey. And over at Cuomo's
election night, party, independent journalist Michael Tracy captured whom the
former governor supporters engaging in some blunt analysis of the results. Hey,
Curtis Sliwa, you're a scumbag, like I said along, he

(09:44):
says in the video, you split the vote.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
I told you.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
People were mad at Curtis Sliwa. They're not happy. They're
freaking out.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
They're saying that he's split the vote the remainder of
the less than fifty percent that was left to be split. Yeah,
what difference would that make? I know he wasn't there
to take part of the forty something percent.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, even if Curtis Leiwa isn't there, Cuomo still loses
to Mom Donnie, there's nothing. No one was excited for Cuomo.
No one cared. No one in the world sat there thinking,
I cannot wait to vote for Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh boy.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Cuomo already lost in a direct election where there was
no split vote when it was the Democrat primary.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yes, no one cares. Andrew Cuomo is old news. Not
just old news, but unliked news. He's bad news. No
one had any interest in voting for him at all.
This unnamed Cuomo sexual Uh, that's a that's a something.
Wasn't alone in expressing these sentiments.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Here.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
For instance, former Republican congressman and pardoned fraudster George Santos
saying something similar George Santos, what a guy, And he says, uh,
screw you, Curtis leiwa, I hate you all caps, your
dumb wife, that stupid beret of yours, and all your cats.

(11:10):
That's George Santos. Of course, George Santos might be mad
about Zorah Mom Donnie winning because he's so Jewish and
he's so pro Israel. Of course, I don't know if
he's either of those things. He's definitely not Jewish, to
be sure, neither are official campaign spokesman, but both the
level of their rage and their target for it says

(11:32):
a lot about the purely negative pitch of the Cuomos
mayoral campaign and why that proves so completely unconvincing for
voters both the primary and the general election. Quoman never
seemed to be able to get beyond the idea that
all he had to do to win was point at
the other candidates and say, you're really going to vote
for them, which you know this might be a knock

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on effect from the Trump elections.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
I don't have to.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
That video that you play, he really sums up where
most of his support came from. It's that was the
first thing I ever saw about mom Donnie. It went
viral because everyone at the end of it where you
cut it before, they all start braiding him for not
supporting Israel enough, even though he's just going to be
the mayor of a city in America.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
As the mayor of New York City, what are you
going to do for Israel. It's important for us to
know these things so we can judge whether you're fit
to govern an American city, Because if you're not rapidly
pro Israel, how could we let you govern US Americans,
and that funny how that works.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
It's almost like.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're forced to put another country's interest befour hours. It's
almost like we're not We're barely a second thought. But
Cuomo couldn't convincingly do this given that he spent the
last year so it was governorship stumbling from one incompetent
scandal after another before eventually resigning in response to sexual harassment. Yeah,

(13:03):
when you when you're Andrew Cuomo and you try to
just go, you're going to vote for that guy, it's
a lot easier for them to look back at you
and go, you can vote for that guy. That's the
guy that you're really what has he done? Look at
what happened with COVID, look at what happened with the allegations.

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There's more fingers pointing back at him. It was Cool's
administration that forced nursing homes to accept COVID positive patients
and then tried to cover up the deaths that resulted
from this deeply mistaken policy. It was under his governorship
that New York had the worst administered emergency rental assistance
program in the country. It's hard to argue that you
are a steady, capable alternative to the starry eyed socialist

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when your administration can't do something as simple as not
recklessly endangered senior citizens or.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Cut checks to people.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Basically, he was no good at anything. There was not
a single bright spot in his administration, and people were
excited to see.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Him go.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Mo.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Mom Donnie had this sewed up for months. It was
all but concluded. Anyone that looked at the level of
excitement there was for Mom Donnie could kind of tell
it's a excitement means a lot when it comes to
a political campaign. It bears repeating after Cuomo repeating that.

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Cuomo also signed the twenty nineteen rent law that has
done so much to damage the financial position of New
York City's housing. With no decent record to run on
and no positive visions to pitch, Como fell back on
aristocratic entitlement. If you don't like Mom Donnie, you had
to vote for him as the only realistic alternative. Sleeva
voters weren't worth convincing. They simply owed loyalty to Cuomo.

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But that didn't end up playing out, did it. And
of course, as we pointed out, Curtis Sliwa didn't get
enough of the vote to mat he could have taken
Cuomo could have gotten all Slee Wiz votes and Mom
Donnie still wins. That's how disinterested people were in these
two candidates. Now, I don't think I'll vote for that guy.

(15:13):
We've tried that before.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
It's not good to.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
See the trying to pully up his socialism. And yes
he is a socialist, but is Cuomo really that much
better or better at all? New York is already pretty
close to as bad as it could possibly be in
terms of politics. There's limits to what these governors can
do when they're in power, and they're always pushing those

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limits already. This guy might push them a little bit harder,
but I don't think it's going to make a fundamental difference.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if him being an avowed,
you know, socialist means he pushes harder and faster. I
have to wait and see. That would be a downside.
If Mom Donnie's avowed socialism means he's not trying to
hide anything, means he doesn't feel the need to try
and pretend he's not what he is.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
I mean, sure, it could be worse than what it
is now. But I also think that they're really just
setting him up to succeed because they're establishing, oh, well,
we're going to see New York fall into a communist,
you know, regime, and people are gonna be starving in
the streets or whatever. Yeah, it's not going to be

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that bad.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's not going to turn into you know, the Warsaw
Ghetto or something like that overnight.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
It's going to continue.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Anything short of escape from New York will be declared
a victory.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Look, we didn't burn the entire thing down, and we're
so proud of you, Mom Donnie. It's good. It's not
good to see Mom Donnie win, but as a consolation prize,
it is good to see Cuomo lose. And that's about
the size of it. There's no solace in Mom Donnie.
There's no hope he's going to make New York City better.

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But we can at least enjoy the fact that Cuomo
got thrown out. That people had enough. Whatever else one
wants to say about them, their choices. New York voters
were right to decide that they don't want a disgraced
politician with a bad record, a worse attitude, and no
vision running their city government, and I think that's fair.

(17:22):
I think between the two choices, if someone put a
gun to my head and said you are going to
have to vote for Andrew Cuomo or Zorron, Mom Donnie,
I think I'd at least have to vote for Zoron,
Mam Donni. Because Andrew Cuomo, through his policies, has directly
led to deaths during COVID nineteen. I hold him responsible

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for actual deaths. And while I'm sure Zorn might have
done the exact same thing, he hasn't yet I don't
consider him to have blood on his hands at this
exact moment, which means he is someone, in my opinion,
at least in this case, the lesser of two evils
for now. Mom Donnie tells n MSNBC he supports BDS

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after claiming he will be mayor for every Jewish New Yorker.
During an appearance on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Mom Donnie was
asked about a support for BDS, the boycott movement against Israel, boycott,
divest whatever. The last one is Mom Donnie's sanctions. That's
what it was.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
This article is phrasing it as though that's, you know,
an absolutely contradictory thing. But you know this is sending.
This is the nation of Israel, not Jewish New Yorker.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, that's the exact Thing's just he's the mayor of
the New Yorkers. If they're Jewish and they're in New York,
he could still support them, you know, give them the
time and attention that they need from the mayor without
him ever having to do anything for Israel. But it's

(18:54):
just this continual conflation.

Speaker 9 (18:55):
If you don't.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Support the political state of Israel in the Middle East,
you hate every single Jew on the planet, you want
them all gone. In fact, you're a Nazi. Mom Donnie
was asked about a support for BDS, the boycott movement
against Israel. Mom Donnie said he supports it as a
way to pressure Israel to comply with international law. That's
all he wants, just to comply with the international law.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Please. Now we'll see if that's all he wants in future.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
But he's being very, very moderate in his condemnations of Israel.
He's been very mild, at least as far as I've seen.
Maybe there's some other videos where he's ranting and raving
and screaming, but I haven't seen.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
A Morning Joe.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Co host Willie Geist asked Mom Donnie how he could
square support for Jewish New Yorkers while promoting the BDS movement,
noting that many in the city's Jewish community worry Robert's
animosity towards them. How can you support this one thing
that's unrelated to this other. I don't get again. It's
this utter conflation of the political state of Israel with
every single Jewish individual on the planet. If you have

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a singular issue with the way NETANYAHUO runs the government
of Israel, then you are evil. The candidate argued that
his criticism of Israel lies with its government, not the
Jewish people, same as it is here on the show,
same as it is with y'all in the audience. I
think critiques of the state of Israel are critiques of
a government as opposed to critiques of a people and

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of a.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Faith, he said.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
And my job, his job is to be the mayor
of New York, not the mayor of Israel. Zoron Mamdani,
boosted by opposition to Israel, wins NYC mayoral race. People
have had enough, We've seen enough clips, We've seen the footage.
It's hard to get away from the footage of what's

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going on in Palestine. People are not simply going to
take it. They'll do what they can as little as
that is. If that means electing a socialist, probably communist,
to be the mayor of New York, to stop the
bombing of children, stop the horrors they see on their
social media feed, that just might be what they do.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Well, let's not forget that the purpose of socialism is
to institute communism. Yeah, it's the ultimate end goal.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I think it was Vladimir Lenin or one of the
guys that said that. All right, let's read some comments
for a bit. Mister Palm ten eleven. Oh my gosh,
God's blessing. Yes, yes he is, Little David, or you
can call him squire or whatever you want. He's a blessing.
He's wonderful. He makes our lives so much better. Spetro

(21:32):
six to six says he's adorable, and Spectro six to
six says, happy first birthday, Thank you, thank you. He
appreciates it. He's going to be having all kinds of
treats today. We're going to make sure that he gets
a good day. Nad Lander, he's got your hair dude. Yeah,
he kind of does. He has the same kind of
curls that I used to get when I was a
baby when it got long. It's about time for him

(21:53):
to get his second haircut. The real octaves spootcute little boy.
Wife asks where is David. David's not feeling too good today.
He had to take the day off, but I'm still
here at least for the first hour. Second hour we're
playing a best of compilation, will be the Anthony Frieda
interview where they talk about culture and why it's important,
why art is important. And we're also going to play

(22:16):
a Eric Peters interview and one more surprise, about fifteen
minutes extra of just solo David, So stick around. The
second hour will be more David Knight Show with David
Knight Best of interviews.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
I want to say that it's not his heart that's
a problem. He's just feeling he's under the weather, usual
regular sickness.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, it's just a regular cold fever sort of thing.
He's not not in any danger. He's just feeling bad
like we all do. Sometimes we have Pezanovante seventeen to
seventy six says miss the start. Where is DK? So
Hopefully that answers your question. Pezanovante, so go sixty eight
g the first Muslim mayor of londonis stand.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Sure worked out.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Great, didn't it. That's right, sure did.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
It's Londonistan always makes me laugh. I've said for years
that if we wanted to invade another Muslim country, it
might as well be the UK. Give them a taste
of their own medicine for once, Jim seven, he'll do
plenty for Israel. The guy will reveal his true identity soon.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
I think you have to play politics to some degree
in order to get into positions, high positions as well
as mayoral positions if it's a city like New York,
and that typically includes sending some money to Israel.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, apparently in American politics you don't get to play
unless you at least partially support Israel.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
How much support the city of New York actually sentenced
to them? But I guess we'll see.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I it's truly amazing. Just the Jewish population New York
is incredibly large comparatively to other places in the country.
Jim's seven already read that.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Patty Wax.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's scary that life has become the latest great is
bigger and better novelty. And that is what Zoron is.
That is what Trump was, That is what LGBT nutteries.
Nutteries are nuttery. Yeah, it's all just this continual push
for more, more, more. Well this didn't satisfy me. What

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can I do next? This is old news. I need
something else. It's not satisfying like it did. Maybe a
bigger dose will help. It's because society is completely and
utterly divorced from Christ. We've thrown him out and as
such we are desperate for something to take his place,
but nothing can. What if I try drugs? What if

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I substitute political action? What if I'm gay or trans
or something? Surely that will give my life meaning?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
What you need is Christ. Without Christ, you have no
meaning and no salvation. So I encourage you to turn
to Him. Read the Gospel, believe it. Oh need Malik
the technocrat Muslim billionaire inside maga. Oh no, We're infiltrated
on all sides. Ohmied malinka Muslim, also got involved with

(25:16):
Rockbridge Network, a conservative donor group started by Jay de
Vance and Chris Chris Buskirk, a co founder of a
seventeen eighty nine capital. How did all these former left
wing billionaire show up on the Trump train? Isn't that
the question of the day?

Speaker 9 (25:31):
How did it happen?

Speaker 4 (25:32):
How'd they get here?

Speaker 5 (25:33):
How did all these left wing or they say former
left wing but really left wing billionaires get onto the
train of the former left wing billionaire president.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's truly a question worth asking Lance. I, for one,
am baffled. I've got no idea how this could have happened.
Do you perhaps have some insights?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Lance?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Could you explain this mystery? How did he end up here?
I stand the tech If you understand technocracy, you will
know the agenda is not political but economic. It is
also aligned with asset based Islamic finance, which is infiltrating
all levels in the investment baking world. Patrick Wood, the editor,

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said that Patrick Wood does a lot of good work
USA USA, USA. Familiar chant of another MAGA triumph filled
the New York Stock Exchange last month as Omeid Malik
and Donald Trump Junior rang the opening bell to mark
the trading debut of firearms retailer grab A Gun. I
could also call the company the culmination of their close

(26:36):
personal business relationship, The Amazon of guns or a middle
finger to anyone who's horrified that grab a Gun's stock
symbol is pew, the sound of a bullet.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
See.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't think we're going far enough. What we need
is Uber eats for guns. I should be able to
pull up my phone, look at a gun, and have
somebody deliver it to my house within the next twenty
five to thirty minutes. That is the only future worth having.
I demand to be able to order glocks to my
front door, non stop, whenever I want. That is the

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only thing that will satisfy me.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
But the man start talking about this pretty cool sounding
gun service as though that's somehow Trump's creation.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I'm assuming they're trying to imply that Trump is the
reason he created the economic climate and the political climate
where they could be allowed to succeed and thrive, which.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
There was no such thing as the Second Amendment before
there was Trump.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Donald Trump was the first second pro Second Amendment president.
No one else before him has ever been pro Second Amendment.
Not like Donnie is gonna take the guns and do
the due process later. There should be flashing red lights
Steve Bannon on mom Donnie's When Steve Bannon is saying
it's time to panic, It's time to freak out. More

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than a few Republicans are celebrating Zoramum Donnie's victory, seeing
a thirty four year old Democratic socialist political gift an
albatross dinemic party. Steve Bannon is not among them. That's
Steve Bannon, despite being a allegedly drunken criminal, might have
more common sense than all the others in gravitating towards Trump,

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which is a horrifying thought to have. It is horrifying
that Steve Bannon might be the most politically savvy, the
most sagacious, the most circumspect member of the team, not
even a member. He's on the outside looking in. Bannon
seemed impressed by mom Donnie's companionability to turn out low

(28:47):
propensity voters. Yeah, he got all these dweebs that have
been disenchanted with politics to believe that he's something different.
That's what you get when you're a new face without
much history in politics. You get people that have been
burnt out. They look at you and they say, there's

(29:08):
a chance, you know he's the devil. I don't know,
so maybe he's not a devil. Whereas any time you're
dealing with known quantities, you're gonna have a certain at
least a portion of the population goes, I know that guy.
I will never vote for him. He has a history
that I can look at and I'm sick of, and you'll.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Never win them over.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Well maga Icon, an ex Tucker Carlson favorite, denounces his
old ally in the New Anti Semitism. Wow, it seems
like they're getting a bit nervous when it comes to
anti Semitism. The support for Israel is not as clamorous
and all consuming as it used to be among the

(29:54):
American people. With the advent of social media and the
ability to see the outcomes of Israel's war what they're doing,
bombing women and children, some people are looking at it
and going, why are we supporting this? How can we
support this? They've got to stop. If they want our
continued support, they need to stop. And if you say that,

(30:16):
I'm sorry, I've got bad news. You're an anti semi.
That's just how it happens. It sneaks up on you.
One day, you're thinking about how you really wish women
and children would stop being murdered, and the next thing
you know, you're wearing an armband with a swastika on it.
That's how it happens. It's that easy. The slide is

(30:36):
unnoticeable all of a sudden, You're an anti semi victor.
Davis Hanson denounced his old ally in a long essay
about the new anti Semitism for the Free Press. While Anson,
it's admitted the Fox that Fox News wouldn't be able
to replace Tucker Carlson after the network ousted him back
in twenty twenty three, he did not mince words about
the far right commentator in his latest essay. Blogger Daryl Cooper,

(31:00):
implausibly proclaimed by Tucker Carlson as perhaps the best and
most honest popular historian in the United States, claimed on
a Carlson podcast that Adolf Hitler's armies in nineteen forty
one did not really intend either to starve or murder
hundreds of thousands of Jews, Ukrainians and Russian prisoners. Excuse me,
even though there is a trove of documents that showed
premeditated Nazi assumptions of and plans for precisely such mass death,

(31:25):
observed Hanson. Why would Nick Fuenttis, who at times in
the past has praised both Hitler and Joseph Stalin call
for a holy war against Jews and denied the Holocaust
remain unchallenged by Carlson on this same venue.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Of course, I.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Find the funniest thing about Fuentess is the fact that
he's declared himself Hitler two, three and four. So we've
got the next We've got the next.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
Three Hitlers sorted out.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
So unless you're planning on being Hitler five, don't even bother.
We've already got him. Hanson argued that right wing anti
Semitism manifests itself in the form of America firsters, who
fought both America passed in president and much of Trump's
America First movement.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well, yeah, if you don't put Israel first, you're anti submittic.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's simply that.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
And of course you have people like Nick Quentis who
make these absurd, inflammatory statements. I'm gonna be Hitler two,
three and four, he says, as he wants to be
taken seriously, as he is one of the main voices
that criticize Israel, who point out Apax control, and he
links this directly to that kind of ridiculous absurdism, that insanity.

(32:34):
Hanson is a longtime supporter President Donald Trump, who Carlson
turned too often during his days at Fox. Well, isn't
that wonderful. We're going to take a quick break and
then when we come back, I think we're going to
look at what's going on with Cash Patel. As I said,

(32:55):
he is in hot water. People are not happy and
there's good reason for that. But we'll talk about that
when we come back. So stay with us and we
will be right back.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Jordan. Listening to The David Night Show.

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Speaker 3 (34:53):
Welcome back, folks, Thank you for joining us here on
this wonderful Thursday. I see we have Jason Barker in chat.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Good to see Jason.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Hope you're doing well. Yes, David is sick today. I
am filling in. It's nothing serious. He's just feeling under
the weather. So you've got me for the next twenty
five minutes, and then we will be turning it over
to a rebroadcast, because who can do the David Knight
Show better than David Knight.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
That's the real question, not just to read broadcast, but
a best of it is.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Right, best of interviews and a segment. But as I said,
we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Look at what's going on with Sorry to interrupt, but
on the topic of David Knight, he sent me a
comment saying Trump isn't a populist, He's a globalist who's
just like the Democrats in that debate. We played the
debate of the Democrat New York mayoral candidates, and they're
all talking about how much they support Israel, Ukraine, et cetera.

(35:50):
And these are all Trump's positions. See, he's jetting around
the world while the people can't even jet across the
country because he doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Yeah, we uh, none of our politicians care about us,
and at this point their disinterest is a large part
of what keeps things running the things.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
He also says, Victor David Hanson is a historian who's
loved by conservatives, yet he supported Trump in spite of
what happened in twenty twenty. Why would anyone care about
what a quote historian thanks who doesn't even know what
happened in his own time and can't understand the time
that he lived through.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
See this is why anytime you read history, you need
to question what the book is telling you. Given how
biased and uninformed and stupid most of the current news
is and the current historians are, and the books that
they write are, you have to wonder has it always
been like this? Has every historical work been written by

(36:57):
some scumbag hack with an agenda to push How much
of this is simply fabrication to make somebody of the
time look good.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
There's always revisionists. You just have to look at everything
with a critical eye and compare it to other sources,
especially sources from the time.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Unless I'm telling you it, then you can believe it uncritically.
Just accept it and move along. Please don't do that.
Sometimes I worry that people are gonna take me serious.
I like to be sarcastic. I like to be unseerious,
and worry people are going to take it seriously and

(37:35):
think I actually mean it. Let's look at what's going
on with Cash Battel. As I said, he's in hot
water and he's not used to that. Cash Betel wouldn't
be the first FBI boss to go down by turning
his official plane into a private jet. We've got precedent
for it. It's already happened, and some people are now wondering, well,
why hasn't happened? Why hasn't happened to Cash Battel. In

(37:58):
the early nineteen nineties, veteran and mistigative reporter Ronald Kessler
cut an unusual deal with the FBI, one that was
blessed at the very top by its then director William Sessions.
Kessler would be given on beettered access to the J.
Edgar Hoover Building for a planned book that would provide
an exclusive, behind the scenes look at how the FBI
really operates. Isn't that fun? Isn't that nifty? And the

(38:24):
course of his reporting, Kessler told me this week he
was shocked to learn, thanks to tips from agents on
Sessions on security detail about alleged ethical abuses by the
director himself. On multiple occasion, Sessions, a former federal judge,
had used an FBI jet for personal trips, including Johnston,
San Francisco to see his daughter and flying with his
wife to Atlantic City to attend a performance of the

(38:45):
Bolshoy Ballet at the Sands Hotel at Casino. Oh, you know,
at least I suppose he's higher class than Cash Battel
flying his girlfriend to a wrestling event. He's at least
going to the ballet. The theta the theta. What a
man of taste, how refined, which comped him the tickets.

(39:06):
So the casino even comps him the tickets. I guess
that's something. Sure, he's not using the American money to
buy Bolshoy Ballet tickets. They're simply being given to him
because of who he is, because of his position. Kessler's
discoveries produced an uproar. There was a simpler time. People
actually cared more.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
When he wrote a.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Letter to the FBI seeing comment for his book, The
Public Affairs off As dutifully turned it over to the
Justice Department Inspector General for review. Months later, after an
IG report documented sessions misuse of the FBI jet and
other questionable actions, including the installation of a security fence
around his home, the director got a call from President
Bill Clinton telling him he was fired, picking the first

(39:49):
FBI chief ever to be Cashiered. I'm sure Bill Clinton
told him, I feel your pain. Now I'm doing stuff
they wouldn't like either. I just didn't get caught Trump
Trump's handpicked director Cash Bettel forty five, last week used
an FBI jet to fly to State College in Pennsylvania

(40:09):
to attend a wrestling match where his girlfriend, country singer
Alexis Wilkins twenty six, was singing the national anthem. That's
a good use of time and money, isn't it. Our
FBI director has nothing better to do than to use
the private FBI jet to fly up to spend time

(40:32):
with his girlfriend who's basically half his age as she
sings the national anthem at a wrestling event. Remember, I'm
told it's alleged to me, it's been revealed in a
dream that we were once a serious country. I've heard
tell of it. People used to actually take their job seriously.

(40:57):
There was some kind of pride in them. Not anymore.
We've got cash Patel using his FBI jet to fly to.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
See his girlfriend. Well, you got to do that.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
How much money are these guys making and yet they're
completely and utterly unwilling to pay for a plane flight. No, no, no,
I'm going to take the FBI private jet. Sure pass
that on to the taxpayer. That's their job. I'm a
big deal. Wherever I want to go, I get to go,
and it's the American people's duty to support that. They

(41:34):
should feel honored that their tax dollars are going so
that I can go visit my girlfriend. Patel fired the
senior official in charge of planes, Stephen Palmer, a twenty
seven year FBI veteran, when reports about the trip started
to surface on social media.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
That's right, he threw a.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Bit of a hissy fit. This is how'd this get out?
Did you leak it?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
You leak that I was.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Using the FBI's private plane to go visit my girlfriend.
Well you're fired. You might actually care about your job.
Nor was this the first time that Betel's use of
FBI aircraft has been questioned. In April, Pattel, an avid
hockey fan, used an FBI seven to fifty seven jet,
to fly to New York to attend an NHL game,

(42:22):
where he watched Washington Capitol star Alex Ovechkin break the
league's all time scoring record. Good for him, I guess,
congratulations Alex Ovechkin.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I hope you know means something to you.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Then in August, Battel and four or five of his
friends hopped aboard an FBI jet to fly to Scotland
for a golfing trip. Isn't that wonderful for him? Just
getting to hop in the FBI jet. You know what
I feel like going to Scotland for golf. Wouldn't that
be fun?

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Lifestyles of the rich and corrupt?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Exactly just.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
How disconnected this man is from the average American. Just oh,
I think I want to play golf, but not just
regular golf. How about we go where it was invented.
This is like getting a craving for pizza and instead
of going to your local restaurant, you decide you're gonna
fly to Italy. I better not give him any ideas

(43:18):
this may this may happen. In August, Pattel and four
or five of his friends hop to board an FBI
jet to fly to Scotland for a golfing trip. According
to Chris O'Leary, a former senior FBI Counter terrorm counter
terrorism official has been tracking the use of the bureau's
aircraft inside the bureau, there is across the board outrage
over Ptel's use of FBI aircraft.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
For fun and pleasure. Ceo leary.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
At the end of the day, it's theft of government resources.
I mean, people have been thrown out of the Bureau
for this, and he's speaking literally.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Do you have any idea how much fuel these jets consume.
It is gallons upon gallons, like in one minute, they'll
go through several games.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
It is.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
It is quite expensive to fly these things around. These
are not regular planes either. They are generally outfitted with
all kinds of different things, and they are more expensive
to fly because of it. They take more fuel, they're heavier,
even more striking. However, are the parallels with sessions misuse
of the FBI aircraft. And as I was pointing out,

(44:23):
he's not speaking at for, he's not speaking in generality,
he's not speaking in you know. Oh well, something like
this has happened, something almost identical has happened. There's precedent,
someone was already fired for it. So why isn't cash
Btel being fired? Could it be because Donald Trump prioritizes
loyalty to himself over loyalty to the Constitution, over ability

(44:45):
and willingness to uphold the law. Could it be that
Donald Trump simply cares that Cash Betel is a dutiful
little toady that does what he's told.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
It's a measure of the corruption. Last time this exact
thing happened, the FBI director was fired. This time, the
guy that exposed it was fired.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Let's remember it was Bill Clinton that fired that FBI director.
It's as I've said before and will not elaborate on.
Bill Clinton was the last Republican president. There won't be
another one, and I will not be taking questions. There's
more than parallels between Patel's and sessions travels. Gerson told
me it's congruency. It's the same thing under normal circumstances.

(45:29):
The IG Inspector General should investigate this. It looks like
on its face, like an emolument spy talk. I've got
to take a brief aside. I know I take too
many rabbits, I go down too many rabbit holes. But
spy talk just the idea that there's a magazine for
spies or a newspaper for them where they put all

(45:50):
their little spy details.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Do you think there's some this sub stack.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Uh? Yes.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
But just.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Reached out to the FBI Public Affairs Office with a
series of questions, including how often Betel has used FBI
aircraft for personal purposes, whether his trips were approved by
any FBI lawyer or ethics official, and how much Patel
has compensated the Bureau for his trips. The office responded
with a terse email saying that due to the government shutdown,
FBI operations are directed toward national security with Patel's chief spokesman,

(46:24):
Ben Williamson, posted on ex that Bettel, like all directors,
has required to use FBI aircraft for all travel because
of security issues, and for personal travel, director pays a
reimbursement in advance, strictly following OMB rules. He did, not, however,
specify which trips and how many times Pateel's compensated the
government for his trips to see his girlfriend, watch a

(46:44):
hockey game, go golfing, or for other personal purposes. He
also spends a lot of time at a second home
in Las Vegas, according to reports, so he's all over
the place. They're still not sure how many trips he's taken.
It seems like, well, you know, he's gotta fly. He
works far more full weekends than he does otherwise, and

(47:05):
maybe most importantly ask anyone who works for him, he's
on duty twenty four to seven. I'm really curious as
to what the director of the FBI actually does. He's
not out there with a magnifying glass hunting down clues.
He's not Sherlock holmesing it. Obviously, he's more of a
policy sort of guy. He's more about what kind of

(47:26):
personnel they hire. What does the FBI director do on
a daily basis? What is Cash Petel devoting all of
his time to? Isn't that's something I'd be interested in knowing.
I imagine he's more of a bureaucrat than anything else.
I imagine he doesn't do all that much at all. Actually,
probably fires off an email every now and then. There's

(47:49):
zero time for people who pedal trash because they have
nothing better to do, or even better, because the Russian
collusion hoax they spent years writing about failed.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
In their end goal. Real shame. That's right.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
This is all because of Democrats. This is all Democrats
trying to smear our good little boy, Cash Pattel.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
He would never do anything bad.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Yeah, what does this have to do with the Russia hoax?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (48:16):
You know, it's jenness.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Is absurd to blame anytime one of the blame the
media that's blaming Russia for everything, it's unrelated.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
It seems like anytime one of the Trump crew gets
in trouble, they trot out the fact. Hey, look, remember
they tried to smear him with this Russian host thing,
hoax thing. They made up a whole bunch of stuff.
You can't believe. You can't trust them. Remember, remember this,
this was absurd to try to make you tie it
into that and go okay, So there's nothing to see
here either.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Then I guess yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
So I was saying, it's the inoculation of Trump by
the media with all of their constant going over the
top for years, and now he's immune to criticism.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
M But Patel himself also responded mainly by praising his girlfriend,
the country singer. You know, that's a bit of an obfuscation.
I assume I'm not going to address anything. What if
I were to simply just talk about how much I.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Love my girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Heye, corruption love me girlfriend, simple ads. But tell himself
also respond to mainly praising his girlfriend, the country singer.
The disgustingly baseless attacks against alexis a true patriot and
the woman I'm proud to call my partner in life
are beyond pathetic, he wrote on x She is a
rock sold He probably means solid, but it says sold

(49:37):
here conservative and a country music sensation who has done
more for this national He means nation, then most will
in ten lifetimes.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I'm so blessed in my life.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Attacking her isn't just wrong, it's cowardly and jeopardizes our safety.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Wow, the spin that he's putting on this, they asking
if you're asking him, if you're asking about what I'm
doing with the FBI jet, you're attacking my girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
You're attacking my girlfriend and making her unsafe. How do
you feel about that, big man? You feel big attacking
a woman?

Speaker 9 (50:12):
Please?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Please don't fire me for corruption. That's what Cash Pattel
is doing. He's obvious skating, He's changing what this is about.
This is not about his girlfriend, who I'm sure is
probably a nice lady. I'm sure she's fine. I don't
care to listen to any of her music, and I

(50:33):
hope she lives a great life. I hope she's safe
and sound. But I do, however, think Cash Pattel should
be fired for misuse of FBI property.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
It's that simple.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
In fact, none of the main media stories about Pattel's
trip to watch his girlfriend singing the national anthem singing
the national anthem in State College included personal attacks on her.
This is again, this is just changing the narrative. This
isn't about me and my misuse of FBI property. This
isn't about me taking trips to Scotland to play golf.

(51:08):
This is about them hating my girlfriend. They hate her
because she's such a patriot, folks, She's such a patriot.
The left wing media are trying to discredit her by
saying I use the private jet to go golfing in Scotland.
That's how devious these people are. It's a real roundabout attack.
But you're not gonna fall for it, because I'm gonna

(51:29):
tell you.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
You're misusing the private chet. Wow, these people are coming
after my girlfriend with the Russia hoax.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
This is truly an insane workaround. Cash Bettel truly does
it up to his nickname that I've seen people call him,
Crooked Cash. There is nothing that I've seen from this
man that is even remotely honest.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
They're parallel.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
By the way, this is actually a spytalk magazine. It
just looks exactly like a substax.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
It was one.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
That's what I'm saying, is like it just the idea.
They've got their own little spy talk where they send
in letters to the editor, Dear Abby, this week I
toppled a third world regime for their resources. Many people died,
much lithium was secured.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Another parallel between Patel and his long ago predecessor, long
ago Bill Clinton was apparently long ago, back in the
ether the reaches of time, we all grow old. When
Kessler finally confronted Sessions about his findings, he got a
half hour tongue lashing from the director. Sessions told a
reporter he was offended and disappointed that he had delved

(52:39):
into personal matters rather than the great work the FAA.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
I was doing great work.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
The FBI was doing on what you.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Guys, personal matters like your corruption.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I'm also curious what are they working on. Have they
given us any new facts about the Charlie Kirk shooting anything?
How about Epstein, Yeah, Epstein, Kirk lost Fai Vegas shooting,
Really any high profile crime they've been involved in investigating.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Over the last.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Well forever, as far as I'm concerned, my entire lifetime,
have they actually given us anything. When was the last
time the FBI came out with something and said we've
solved it, and you were confident you.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Could believe them. We have a black screen there we go.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
It was just studio mode.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Sessions told the reporter he was offended and disappointed that
he had delved into personal matters rather than the great
work the FBI was doing, and then launched into a
vigorous defense of his wife, who had taken on many
of his trips aboard the FBI jet, who he set
occupied a special and important place in the bureau. I
love my wife more than anything. I think she is beautiful, amazing, talented, smart, funny.

(53:50):
But I wouldn't if I was the FBI director, assume
that she holds a special place for all the FBI
agents well as the director. She is my wife, and
therefore she's like a mom to these guys. I think
perhaps she was yeah, just yeah. I don't think you
immediately become a special individual because you're married to the

(54:14):
FBI director. You're not immediately inducted into their halls and
made one of their own. That Patel too would respond
with the defense of his girlfriend, was telling Kessler said,
that's right. As the FBI director, if you get criticized,
if you have a woman in your life, you must immediately.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Claim they're attacking her.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I can't believe these people are attacking my wife, my girlfriend,
the country singer, the solid conservative that Patel would respond
with the defense of his wife is telling. He goes
on about what a wonderful person she is, he said,
the show of total blindness to the ethical issues involved.
He's not blind, he's just trying to deflect. No no, no,
no ethical no ethical violations to see here. Have you

(54:55):
considered my country singing, patriotic American girlfriend. Yes, Cash, we're
very happy for you. Please answer the question. Well, that's
what's going on to Cash Betel. We're gonna see how
it plays out. I'm personally not expecting anything. He's a
good little toady to Donald Trump. He really does whatever

(55:17):
Trump says, and he does it without question. So I'm
assuming everything will be fine for him. But let's let's
move on. We've only got a little bit of time
left before I turn it over to the best of
Sandwich thrown by a protester exploded and left mustard stain
on border agent court heres, that's right.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
It was.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
An improvised I don't know at a bold device, I
guess ied still works. A US immigration agent has testified
he could feel through his holistic best the impact of
a sandwich hurled at him by Washing DC protester who has.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Gone on trial for assault.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Not pay me enough money to be this guy, to
show it and be like the sandwich, will we hook
guys the sandwich hoot my fee wings and my body.
Customs and Border Patrol agent greg Lar Layermore told the
jury the snack exploded all over him. You can smell
the onions in the mustard on his uniform. This poor man,
no one has ever suffered like he has.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
The funny thing is, I'm playing the video. It's wrapped
in paper and it doesn't appear to come unwrapped when
he throws it.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
This video is truly one of the funniest things I
have seen. This Just the way the guy runs away
and they all chase after him. It is like a
cartoon moment.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
I mean, I guess it just looking a little bit
on one end, but for the most part stays together.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Who just whether the sandwich is intact or not. You like,
you can't see any mustard on the guy's vest whatever,
But just look at the way this man is running.
He is obviously drunk. He is just it is almost
it is cartoon esque. It is absurdist.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
We have.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I don't even know if I have the words, what,
how would you describe that? It's something? It's truly something.
He could smell the onions and the mustard on his uniform.
He could smell them.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
The improvised edible device.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Neither side disputes that Sean Dunn, thirty seven, did, in
fact lab obscenities and a Deli style sandwich at officers
deployed by President Donald Trump to patrol the nation's capital
in August, but mister Dunn's lawyer argues.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
It was not a criminal act.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
What is the charge.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Assaulting an officer with a meal? A succulent sandwich meal.
The incident was captured on video and went viral, making
mister Dunn a symbol of opposition.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
In Washington, DC to Trump.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Government.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Prosecutors initially tried to secure fellows against mister Dunn, but
a grand jury declined to indict him.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
This is the level of absurdity where you are at.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
They need to specify. This was a club sandwich, far
more dangerous.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Cav It has to be taken seriously. This was a threat.
What if he had a wheat allergy? You don't know,
he could be gluten intolerant. And you just throw a
sandwich at that man. That's obviously a life threatening scenario.
We can't have that, and as such it's a felony charge.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
But they said no.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
The grand jury said, ah, I don't think so. According
to the charging documents, mister Dunn approached a group of
opsers at about twenty three hundred on the tenth of August,
calling them fascists and shouting why are you here? I
don't want you in my city. What a waste of
a sandwich? Though I would never, I would never. The
court witnessed a reenactment from mister Larairmore on Tuesday as

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he took to this to testify against mister Dunn. That's right,
we're going to reenact the sandwich throwing debacle. You're going
to have to did they get him another HOGI? Did
he actually get to throw it at somebody else? Mister Dunn,
I'm gonna need you to throw the sand which in
the exact same manner you did. Please the bailiff will

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play the part. Hit him as hard as you feel necessary.
Mister Dun's lawyer, Julia Gato, sent her opening statement that
hurling the sandwich was a harmless gesture that did not
and could not cause injury.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
No matter who you are, you.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Can't just go around throwing stuff at people because you're mad,
mister Parrons.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Said, quit New York Times again.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
I'm not arguing that he should have thrown the sandwich
at the guy. I'm simply arguing that it's not harmful.
It didn't do anything. You don't get hit by a
sandwich and die, unless it's maybe one of those old
subway six foot subs. Maybe then, who knows, but this,
you would have had to drag me into court. If

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I was the guy that got hit with the sandwich,
you would have had to have the KGB work me
over in a black site before I would agree to
testify against somebody because he hit me with the sandwich
and we we hurt. I would die first.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
I would never like, No, that didn't hurt. No, it's
not salt.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
What you think that would hurt me?

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Come on, I would die before admitting the sandwich hurt me,
and I need compensation for it. This man is a criminal.
He broke my body. I am bruised and battered.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
They're coming after him for a salt and pepper.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
All right, Well, folks, it has been fun. I hope
I wasn't too flippant. David will be back soon, probably Monday,
given how he's feeling. But I will be here tomorrow
to cover the news and then give you more best
of David Knight. Really do appreciate you, guys. We thank
you all for tuning in. Here is the best of

(01:00:46):
David Knight, and I will see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Joy listening to the David Night Show.

Speaker 10 (01:01:16):
All right, welcome back. And joining us now is Anthony Freda.
He's got a new book that's coming out. We're going
to talk to him about that, The Thought Crimes of
Anthony Freda, and he's got he's been very successful as
an artist, and he's his art is full of very
important critiques of the of what we see politically. He's

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actually had in his art put on display at the
nine to eleven Museum and Memorial in New York City,
and he's on the same page as we are, I
think about nine to eleven. His tenure tenure with Info
Wars as an illustrator and writer fully cemented his his
place in the world of controversial alternate news. And he's

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been very vocal about his role in that space, and
so that's where I got to know Anthony, as well
as his work with Cheryl Slinty and Trend's Journal. So
thank you for joining us, Anthony. Good to see you again.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Great to see David, and thanks for having me beautiful set.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Well, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:02:21):
Yeah, I always wanted to talk to you about your
background here, and there's a whole other aspect of your
background that I wasn't aware of now that you're getting
into Christian art and you've got a project with that
as well, and to go fundme to help realize that project.
But let's talk about your personal journey here. You began

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doing copy stuff for the advertising industry and you began
helping them to sell Joe Campbell. Talk a little bit
about that and how you got from there to where
you are now.

Speaker 7 (01:02:56):
Yeah, so it's quite a journey. I've been doing it
for forty years. I'll give you the contensed version. But yeah,
I got out of art. I had this dream of
becoming this, you know, famous, prosperous, thriving artists, and I
just wasn't prepared. I mean I went to Pradut four
years of training in art and painting and drawing, and

(01:03:19):
I was pretty proficient and I was, you know, pretty confident,
but they really didn't train you how to make a
living as an artist. So I sort of figured that
out of my own my own now I have to
make a living doing this. So crossing that threshold from
academy into the professional world for any artist is a
is a scary time. I mean, I teach seniors now

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at f I T and that's my way of giving
back because I know how scared they are, so I
try to sort of pivot that.

Speaker 10 (01:03:48):
And I think it's a scarier time right now than
ever has been. I mean, we look at AI and
a lot of people just content to throw a prompt
at AI and take whatever it gives them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
What do you think about that? How is that going
to affect art?

Speaker 9 (01:04:01):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
I think it's going to be not just artists going
to I mean, I think it's designed to create a
post human future where the robots do all the work
and they work twenty four hours a day. And I
mean the transhumanist you know, elevator pitch or Elevator to
Hell pitch, is that the robots everything for us and
we have the freedom to do whatever we want and

(01:04:22):
they'll give us a basic unit of income. I don't
think it's going to work out that way, but that's
their utopian, post human transhumanist future.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
I had my class yesterday. The kids were crying. They
were literally crying because they just went to school for
four years to learn how to be an artist and
now anyone who has an AI program can do what
they do. So it's very demoralizing to the creatives. But
I mean the same thing goes for the guys who
remember they say to learn the code, like not anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, they're putting themselves out of a job, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Well.

Speaker 10 (01:04:58):
The other part of it is, though, and I think
we'll to this when we get to where you are
right now, the machine has no soul. It's going to
put things together statistically, and it can copy and paste
and throw things against the wall. And in a sense,
it's a sophisticated version of a chimpanzee painting, right, And
so there is still going to be a niche there,

(01:05:20):
I think for the human soul communicating truth and beauty.
I think that's really the issue there and that's what
we have to focus on. And I think that that's
going to be pretty obvious to people. You know, there's
a lot of things that AI can do, especially I
think in the art aspect, because it can hallucinate and
it looks like it's, you know, having a drug trip

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or whatever, and that can be useful in art or
even in music to some degree. But when you look
at the kind when I look at it for music,
for example, the thing about AI is that you can't
precisely get it to do what you want. You know,
it can get like eighty percent there, eighty five percent there,
which is not good enough for art. As many people

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have said, art has never finished. It is simply abandoned.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
At some point.

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
You've got to stop tweaking it and just go do
something different the next project or whatever. And I think
that's the problem with AI. It just throws this stuff
out there and people say, ah, that's good enough. I
think there's going to be a qualitative difference that people
will be able to tell that last fifteen or twenty
percent that is there. Yes, I agree with you, Yeah,

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that's my hope we do.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
But I think you're right. Listen, our advantage moving forward
is the robots don't laugh, they don't cry, they don't love,
that's right. They're not connected to God. In fact, I
think it's the opposite that you're right. I think I
have this idea that just as a holy spirit is
this unifying force and universal force of good and God,

(01:06:56):
the adverse the into that yang is this unifying force
of darkness which informs and which has basically a cauldron
for this ai to be created. And we're incarnating it
by giving it prompts and giving it life. But that
spirit is a dark spirit, and I sense that, and
I feel that it's an anti human spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
But so Elon Musk agrees with you as well. He said,
we're summoning the demon.

Speaker 10 (01:07:23):
Yeah, maybe we're to pay attention to what he's saying
about that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Some of these guys who are atheists say, there's something
here that mathematics doesn't you know, describe or defined. It's
something beyond mathematics, So what's going on? They don't even know.
The guys who created it don't even know how. You know,
these systems arrive at the decisions that they make to
certain points. It's called black box technology, right that they

(01:07:50):
it's it's it's opaque, but robout to understand it. But
they might not, but they understand us though. That's the problem,
like we don't understand how how they do what they do,
but they understand us. I mean, they have so much
big data about humanity and what moves us and I
influence us that it's a lopsided relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
That's why it's such a.

Speaker 10 (01:08:14):
Good fit for the government, because the government knows everything
about us. But the government itself is by design a
black box that black boxes labeled national security.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
We can't tell you, we'd have to kill you, right.

Speaker 7 (01:08:27):
So exactly. Yeah, so man, I could talk about AI
for hours.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
But yeah, yeah, but let's go back to your story.

Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
You were you were doing, started working at an ad
agency as you gun out trying to.

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Start working at it. Yeah, I was a young man,
you know, young man. I listed it after money and woman,
and I was in my twenties and I became very successful.
We're working for Fortune five hundred companies and I I
was in advertising about ten years and I started to

(01:08:59):
learn and see all the psychological tricks of manipulations, you know,
informed by the ideas of Edward Burnees and his he
was the master of mass psychological manipulation, right, and that
was employed. He was contracted by the government and by
ad agencies it's a long story, but those ideas work

(01:09:22):
because people respond positively a certain stimuli negatively to other stimuli.
Like we're pretty predictable animals. And once you break that code,
you're trying to sell something, and you're smart and clever,
you can figure out a way to do it. But
I got really turned off. I was working on the
Joe Campbell ad campaign and in those days, they were,

(01:09:44):
you know, paying us a lot of money to do
this stuff, and I was just enamored with the money.
And I bought a you know, condo in Manhattan, and
I thought I was like living on top of the world.
And then so I kind of got lost in that
that world of money and success. And then the FTC

(01:10:05):
determined that our campaign was illegal because we were using
cartoon camels. They said we were marketing cigaretts to children.
So I sort of had a moral crisis. And I
didn't become an artist to sell cigarette to kids, right,
And I said, you.

Speaker 10 (01:10:20):
Know, maybe gave a job professor, because they sell poison
the kids all the time.

Speaker 7 (01:10:28):
That's what they're on in the story. Yeah, So I
had this crisis. It's come to Jesus moment. I said,
that's it. I'm done with advertising. I'm not going to
sell my soul to the devil. So I was still
you know, now, I'm a young man in my thirties.
I was pretty naive politically at that time. And I said,
I'm going to work for the good guys, right, I'm

(01:10:48):
going to work for New York Times and then a Yorker,
and I started working for, you know, all these mainstream
publications as an editorial illustrator. And I worked for the
outbed page New York Times, which is like a premier
showcase for thinkers and for I kind of like where
the elite speak to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Sure, and.

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
And I was again, I was on top of the oil,
and I'm working like, you know, the best place for
an illustrated to be. And I was doing articles for
them on a regular basis. And then I got to
see how the sausage is made there, and the the
art director and the editor told me that every single
word that goes through here has to be vetted by

(01:11:33):
the State Department. And I said, I said, I thought,
you know, you're the fourth ward. You're I said, that's
like proud. The word has to be the State Department.
They said, that's that's how it is. So my naive
ta started to you know, unravel. At that point, I
started to become a little more educated about how the

(01:11:54):
world really works. And I feel silly now saying that,
but I thought the New York Times was this like
beak the truth and objectivity. I mean, I couldn't be
more wrong. But so I got an assignment to do.
It was not that piece right before the Iraq War,
penned by the then Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, and

(01:12:17):
it was outlining all the lives that we know now
that took us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
To that war.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
And I illustrate the piece. And then I had another
moral crisis. This guy said to myself, My god, I
went from selling cigarettes to kids to selling war. This
is first. I didn't think I could do worse than that,
but I did. So I had another, you know, time

(01:12:42):
to question what am I doing with my life? What
are my life choices? What do I really what do
I really want to do with my skills and my
my whatever gift Guy's given me and my passions, And
I mean, I love to create imageries. It's the only
thing I'm good at. So I wanted to stay in
that lane. So right then, it was about the time

(01:13:05):
that these seminal alternative news sides started coming out, like
info Wars, and there was a few others and trans
journal and I reached out to them, and because I figured,
these guys are exposing the lives of the mainstream media
that I used to work for and of the advertising
agencies I used to work for. So I wanted to

(01:13:27):
bite the hand that fed me. So I started. I
started working for people and the health freedom movement and
people and the liberty movement and people and all these
different movements, you know, people like you included.

Speaker 8 (01:13:40):
And.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
I've been there ever since because I do think there
are there are good people out there who are trying
to get to the truth of the matter about all
these issues, and journalists and activists and filmmakers and writers,
and I worked for a lot of them and they're
my heroes. So and then politically I got I was

(01:14:09):
on the contract for the RFK campaign when he was
running for president because I believed in what he was doing,
his his work to expose vaccines and the dangers of pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Right, so.

Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
I still have a hand in the political realm, but
I'm basically working for people who I think are the
good guys. You know that I can sleep well at
night now, David, because I think I'm working for people,
or at least trying to tell all the truth. You know,
it's like it's not equivalent like when like when people
get fined for like the way they went after Alex

(01:14:46):
for whatever he said, Like the New York Times and
CNN tell lies of much greater magnitude every day, and
they nobody sued. And and by the way, their lies
lead to wars that kill millions of people. There sell
products that kill millions of people, like and they're never
held accounnibal and then and they're not The difference between

(01:15:08):
them and say what independent journalists who is that they're
purposely trying to lie to you. They know they're lying
to you. You know, it's one thing to make a
mistake in the in the you know, the search for
the truth. We're not always going to be perfect. But
there's a big difference to somebody who's purposely knowing to
lie to you, to hurt you and your children, then

(01:15:30):
somebody who's just trying to figure out real time what
the hell's going on. Because it's very confusing. We've been
lyed to so much about so about everything that people
become so skeptical that, you know, I think it unfortunately,
it fosters this environment where nobody believes anything, and that's
who we're at now. Nobody believes anything, so they come

(01:15:51):
up with one hundred different theories of how Charlie Kirk
was killed, right, because nobody believes the official story, and
we can never get to the bottom anything because everybody
has their own theory about what happened, and there's no
universal truth anymore. We're in the post truth age, and
I think that's the truth is going to be the greatest,

(01:16:11):
most valuable commodity in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
I mean, here's what you need. Here's the fundamental truth.

Speaker 10 (01:16:18):
Government lies, it always has, always will for its own interest.
So if you understand that kind of whatever the government
says or the official press says, with a healthy dose
of skepticism, I think that's the most important thing. You know,
you mentioned the fact that you realize that they had
to get the approval of the State Department for what
they were saying at the New York Times, and of
course we know about Operation mocking Bird and the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Rest of this stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
I thought it was really amazing, the disingenuous astonishment of
the fact that Hegseth openly said, well, you're going to
have to get approval for anything that you release. I
don't like that, But that's not anything that's really different.
The only thing that's different about that is that they're
going to own it and say it out loud rather
than doing it behind closed doors. I had a friend

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who worked at the Pentagon, and he worked for the
side that was vetting movie scripts. If they liked your
movie script, if it was complimentary of them and their agenda,
they would give you access to military equipment that you
could use to film your movie. If they didn't like it,
you didn't get that equipment, and that might sink your
movie because the expense of trying to get that equipment.

(01:17:24):
Otherwise they provide it at a reduced cost or for free.
So that kind of thing has been going along for
a very long time.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
Yeah, I mean, I'm still surprised. I remember, I'm older.
I remember Frank Church, the Church Committee here. It's like
he had the receipts, he proved it back in the
seventies and nobody cared. It's like it did nothing. They
just went back to business as usual.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
I mean, you know, thank God for him and his work,
but I mean, you really didn't do anything in the
big picture.

Speaker 10 (01:17:53):
Yeah, And all the stuff about the heart attack gun.
As I've said before, that was really a distraction because
the whole thing began because from their inception, the CIA
and the NSA were spying on Americans without a search warrant,
which you know takes us. We've been finding that thing
going up to you know, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen at Snowden,
all the rest of the stuff. So the result of

(01:18:15):
that was still the result of the Church Committee hearings,
was the Faiza Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which
they then used to give themselves legal cover to do
what they'd been doing from their inception, which was to
spy on Americans with a search warrant, as Ran Paul says,
you know, spying on mister and missus Verizon. You know,
you go to one judge and a secret court that

(01:18:37):
nobody knows about, and you get legal cover to violate
the Constitution. So they always turned this stuff to their
own advantage.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
Well, yeah, and I was speaking of that subject. I
worked one of my heroes, William Benny and I had
the pleasure of working on a documentary about William. I
met him, just a great guy and he is. I mean,
we quit because he said the system he desired to
spy on potential terrorists with being used to spy on
everybody and that's against the oath he took, and that's illegal,

(01:19:08):
and he said he's not gonna do it. So what
do they do? They FBI raided his house and arrested
him under false pretenses and false charges. But yeah, so
just get back to my journey. So done those track.
After the RFK thing, I worked for him for a
year and it was a great experience and I got

(01:19:29):
to see just how dirty the Democrats are. I mean,
Republicans basically left him alone. You know, Trump would make
some you know, nasty comments now and then, but the
Democrats actively tried to destroy him with lawsuits and moles
and people doing dirty tricks. And it was a constant,

(01:19:50):
relentless assault on him that really opened my eyes again.
I mean I was naive again, like whenever I underestimate
how evil these people are and how they are to
be corrupt and to use the power they have or
abuse any power they have in the courts, in the media,
in academia, in tech, I mean, which which they control

(01:20:15):
those institutions, unfortunately, and it just it sickened me. It
sick of me, the way that they smeared him and
lied about him and sued him and tried to play
dirty tricks with ballots and just on and on and on.
So so then I got that made me realize that

(01:20:35):
the battle isn't political, This battle is spiritual. So I
had I wanted to move from the temporal plane into
the spiritual plane with my work and got back to
my Christian roots. I was raised a Catholic, and I
had a personal experience with my My fiance started having seizures.

(01:20:57):
One night we were watching actually there was Obama movie.
Uh it was like an apocalyptic Obama movie, Leave the
Leave the World Behind, which have to be a foreboding
title because my my girlfriends were watching this. She says,
my heart hurts and I don't feel right. And I said,

(01:21:18):
I said, maybe this anxiety from this Obama show is
you know, screw Obama's not watched this as upsetting you.
And then she just went into seizures and she was
extreetly healthy. She was extremely There was nothing, no pre
existing condition. She just started composting and seizing and just

(01:21:38):
went thousand yards stare and stopped breathing. And I'm not
a doctor, but I think breathing is pretty important. And
I didn't know what to do with David. I felt
so inadequate and helpless. I had no idea what to do.
I should do chest compression, I didn't know. I didn't
know what set to call nine one one, and and

(01:22:00):
I just held her and she was in this in
this state of like comotose state. I don't know she
was dying. I thought she was dying. And then she
came out of it from a for a brief moment
with this from this look of just terror and fear

(01:22:21):
to this this calm and this peace came over her
and she started laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Hmm.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
And I thought of was this all a joke? But
she's not that, She's not that kind of person. And
she and she was laughing, and her whole faces and
the whole body was just relaxed, and she was at
a place of peace. And then she clinched back and
went back into this convulsive state. And I believe like
she went to the other side I believe she was.

(01:22:50):
She was at peace with God for for a brief period,
and that it just wasn't her time, or she just
got sent back, or I don't know obviously what happened,
but it was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Do you have any recollection of that?

Speaker 7 (01:23:05):
No, no, of any of it. Your brain doesn't remember
that stuff. I'd probably protect you. But it was extraordinary
and it reawakened my faith. And that was a year
and a half ago. And thank god she's healthy now.
Seventy five percent of the people who go through when
she went went through, it was a brain brain bleed.

(01:23:27):
Seventy five percent of the people die that happens to
so she was coma. She had a long convalescence, but
thank god she's she's healthy now. Yes, And it brought
both of us closer to God. And it made me
want to dedicate my work to the Lord. And every
piece I do now is a devotion to God. Every

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stroke of my pen is a meditation of prayer, and
I want to lean into that as much as I
possibly can.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
That's great.

Speaker 10 (01:23:59):
You know, before you came on, we were talking about
what's going on in Canterbury Cathedral and that used to
be the basis for why people would make these elaborate
cathedrals was that of a devotion to God and wanting
to honor him, and of course, depending on what gifts
He has given us, we can all have different ways
that we can do that. And you know, whatever your

(01:24:21):
job is, you can always do it in a way
that you try to honor God. And yet, what do
you think about did you see that that story where
they paid somebody to do graffiti on the interior walls
of Canterbury Cathedral.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Did you see that?

Speaker 10 (01:24:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:24:38):
To me, it's it's worse than graffiti, it's vandalism. But
you know, it's like, it's so funny because these things
that were created in the so called Dark Age, they
couldn't make those today. It's because what you said, it's
because they weren't doing it for the profit motive, right,
They were doing it the profit motives, you know, spelled differently.

(01:25:03):
And that's the only way humans can create something like that.
Your heart and soul has to be in it. I mean,
you go into those cathedrals and you feel the presence
of God, you feel the presence of the highest achievement
humanity is capable of. And they did it in the
so called dark ages, like with none of the tools
and the technology we have, Like it's it's astonishing, and

(01:25:26):
it's just just the amount of time and human labor
and life force and sacrifice and artistry and craftsmanship and
skill that went into those things. Just that alone is
enough to uplift your spirit. They're uplifting edifices and monuments
and and today we have monuments like the nine to

(01:25:47):
eleven Monument, which is a it's a black box, it's
a whole, it's like a giant urinal. You go to
it's the you know that black box memorial, and it's
just like a spinning sucking hole to hell, no light excuse,
and it's just there's nothing uplifting about it. So you

(01:26:09):
want to jump in and kill yourself and be sucked
into hell. So that's the feeling I get when I
go there. And I think in some ways it's appropriate
considering that we know what happened there. But it's just
the answer to everything I think is just we had

(01:26:30):
to try to live like saints. I mean, if everybody
lived to the to the better angels, the whole world
would overnight become a better place. Everybody's trying to fix
go into all these marches and protests and all this nonsense.
And it's like, fix yourself first.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
If you fix your.

Speaker 7 (01:26:47):
And you just just be a good person, that's it.
Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, don't hurt your neighbor.
That alone, there'll be no more crime. Right, Why would
there be a crime? Crime is based on him and
doing something that he knows as spinful and knows is
illegal and oas is wrong. So instead of trying to
fix the world from the outside, you got to fix

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it inwardly, you know, get closer to God and understand
that the infinite power and glory of God is not
a separate thing from you. It's within you. That light
is within you, and you just need to accept it
and let that connection grow and become stronger with everything

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you do, and every good thing you do makes it stronger.
You feel closer to God from every good thing you do,
every good work you make and agree.

Speaker 10 (01:27:43):
Yeah, it's a very powerful sermon that they actually wound
up doing as a lecturer as to what is wrong
with our society. I think because when you look at
the graffiti, not only did they go into a place
that was beautiful and uplifting and they essentially tear it
down with their ugly stuff that they put on it.

(01:28:03):
And the most the ugliest thing about what they were
putting on there with their graffiti was what it actually said.
It was a rage against God and his creation, every
bit of it. And that's really kind of shows us
where our society is. So the Church of England is
still setting the foundation for England, it's just setting a

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Satanic foundation that is there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
And absolutely yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
I mean that's that's a purposeful defilement. It's like putting
the Cross upside down. Like everything they do is an version,
like the pentagram. The original five point star was supposed
to represent the five wounds of Christ and so the
Satanists inverted it and turned it into the pentagram. So

(01:28:50):
those symbols are very important and imagery is important and
they know that, and they use it to their satanic purposes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Yes, and the.

Speaker 7 (01:29:01):
Defilement of God and dishonoring of God. And we see
the you know the result. Just look around you. I
mean it's like there's demons everywhere, and there's demons in
high places and low places, and and you know, society
rots from the top down. I think it starts with

(01:29:22):
these people who just who design these so called utopias
for us, like the AI post human utopia. I think
they hate themselves, the missanthropes, and they project their hatred
self hatred onto humanity, and then if they can destroy humanity,
they can somehow destroy the parts of themselves that they hate,

(01:29:44):
like in a Youngie and Shadow sort of.

Speaker 10 (01:29:46):
I agree, Yeah, especially when you look at the transgender stuff.
The purpose of that is to take very young and
impressionable people or maybe even somebody who's an adult and
that's very impressionable, like Christopher Beck who as a Navy
seal that they pushed into becoming a training But it's
to train them to hate their body, to hate themselves, uh,

(01:30:07):
and then to engage in self mutilation. And so I
think that is truly the satanic aspect of it. Tell
us little bit about your project Jesus Jesus Park that
you're working on. You've got to go fundme attached to
that as well, But tell us about that. I think
we've got a picture.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Lance of that you can show the audience of that.

Speaker 7 (01:30:27):
So free is that I just started, Yeah, I had this,
I had this dream. Is this vision David of this
park and this beautiful sort of pastoral natural setting with
trees and rocks, and and I've done a lot of

(01:30:53):
imagery of Christ, and I wanted to create the face
of Christ out of all natural materials, like his crown
of thorns would be actual trees, like you know, So
the scale would be enormous, like his face might take
up a half acre or more. But it will be
a place of a contemplation, a place of prayer, place

(01:31:17):
of a place of peace. And for me, it'll be
a labor of love and a devotion to God. And
they I say it came to me in the dream
download and I just feel like I feel like I
have I have to make this thing. And while I
still I'm still young enough, which might not be. So

(01:31:43):
that's what I'm working on right now. And I do
need some funds to realize it, talking to some some
churches and to have land and trying to find the
right spot for it. But I think it will be
uh an incredible lasting monument and shrine really that I

(01:32:08):
hope that people can enjoy.

Speaker 10 (01:32:10):
And so you'll be able to see the picture that
we've got that'd be like an aerial view that people
be able.

Speaker 7 (01:32:15):
To see in my in my vision. You know, I've
done models of it and it's I mean, if it's
on a slight slope, you should be able to make
out his face from the ground, but you won't be
able to at the full picture. So maybe you know
from a yourne shot or something like that, but you'll
be able to see what it is. And uh, it

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looks great in my dream. You know. Now I just
have to make it.

Speaker 10 (01:32:40):
Have you got any you haven't got a sight for
it yet, but are are you angling for any particular
geographical area that would have.

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
Well, yeah, I live on Long Island and there's this
beautiful shrine out on the east end of Long Island
called Our Lady of the Island and they have I
think about one hundred acres of land and there's a
full twenty foot marble sculpture. Married there's an outdoor church
that I go to there and it overlooks the Great

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South Bay. It's just an incredible spot and they have
a lot of land there. So I've reached out to them.
I don't know if it's going to work out, but
you know, there's a lot of logistics involved, so it's
going to take some planning in a little time. But
but I'm determined. So if I have to at some
point just buy a small piece of land, maybe upstate

(01:33:33):
New York, you can get an expensive land. Whatever I
have to do, you know, I'm going to make this happen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 10 (01:33:42):
Well, you know, in Tennessee, land is fairly cheap and
they have a lot of unusual sites for people to
come see, so you might get a lot of traffic
there if you put it further south.

Speaker 7 (01:33:52):
But that's a good idea. I don't know much about it,
but I'll take it right down Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Why not.

Speaker 10 (01:33:57):
Yeah, instead of people going to see Rock City, they
can see the Jesus Park that's there. Where can people
find the the GoFundMe?

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
How do they find that?

Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
You can find all of my thought crimes on if
you go just Anthony Frieda dot com Anthony f r
a dot com like the links to all my projects there.

Speaker 10 (01:34:17):
Okay, good? And And your book is not out yet?
Is it Thought Crimes of Anthony Frieda? Is that out yet?

Speaker 7 (01:34:24):
No, that's not, but that was The title was inspired
by an actual crime that was happened because of my artwork.
I did a book cover for c J. Hopkins who
wrote this book The Horizon full of the of the
New Normal, and I did a take off of the

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Rise and Poll of the Third Reich that cover, and
I put the COVID mask with a little with a
swastika barely visible behind the mask, the COVID mask. And
they decided to charging him for the seminating Nazi propaganda
in Germany and got to go to he was facing

(01:35:06):
like the years in prison.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 7 (01:35:09):
Yeah, So that was my book cover. And all he
did was tweet that cover to get to get and dieted.
So that's a literal crime that I've been involved with
as an accessory.

Speaker 10 (01:35:23):
So he can't use the symbols of the Nazi regime,
but you can act like Nazis and that's okay, right.

Speaker 7 (01:35:28):
No, right, no, But it's selectively enforced because you know,
the stern and magazines in Germany, they'll show Trump in
full Hitler regalia all the time. That's just that's fine.
And if it's for the purposes of the left, they
get a pass. And CJ is not even a right
wing guy. He's just one of these guys who there's

(01:35:50):
a skeptic. He questions everything. Yeah, so it's kind of
ironic that they're using this illegal subversion of their own laws,
which is something the Nazis would do to prove that
they're not Nazis.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
It's like there's a lot of hronies there. But anyway,
he has his ongoing legal battle with them, and in
Germany they don't have double jeopardy like we do. So
they charged him, and he went to trial and he
was acquitted, and now they're going to charge him again
with the same crime. Just kid, they can charge. They
can keep coming until they get their birth they want.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Wow wow uh.

Speaker 10 (01:36:27):
And it's not a new incident of anything. It's for
the same exact thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:36:31):
Well, we just had somebody that was arrested here in
Tennessee for a meme that he put up and they
got him in you know, two million dollar bond to
get him out of jail. And again it was because
and we see this kind of censorship is going on
both the left and the right. This was about the
fact that this guy didn't like Charlie Kirk or conservatives.

(01:36:53):
And so there was a school that was going to
have an event donor Charlie Kirk, and he put up
a meme that he didn't even.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Create, that other people had created.

Speaker 10 (01:37:03):
It was a picture of Trump and it was a
quote about what Trumpet said about a school shooting, and
it said we got to get over this and move on.
And so he put that up as his comment about
the Charlie Kirk shooting. And because the place that he
did it was something that Perry, Idaho or something was
where the high school was that where the shooting had been,

(01:37:25):
and this was in Perry County, and they said, well,
you were trying to intimidate people here in Perry County
by using this meme that you didn't even create, and
so the sheriff arrested him for that two million dollar bail.
We're seeing free speech attacked everywhere, every country. Every political
philosophy is coming for speech because especially when we're looking

(01:37:48):
at memes or political commentary like you do, it's very
very powerful. They wouldn't be coming after it otherwise.

Speaker 7 (01:37:56):
Yeah, definitely. Well I'm pretty certain he's going to win
that lawsuit, because that's that's rageous. I'm used as censorship
and I've been I mean, I know you've been through
it too, just constantly platformed and demonetized and d this
and do that, and it's just you know, and by

(01:38:17):
the way, everything that I was, you know, censored for,
turns out I was right about. I was right about
all of it, every single thing I said. It was
mostly about COVID. And then I'm also fairly certain I
was put on a domestic terroor list because Biden had
a list of anyone who questioned the COVID narrative was
put on a list, and I would high profile about that.

(01:38:40):
So I mean, I'm considered the potential violent They use
the word violent, potential violent, domestic extremist terrorists if you
were questioning COVID.

Speaker 10 (01:38:52):
That's right, yeah, because they say that, you know, speech
is violence, and I say, no, censorship is violence. And
the people who use and enforce censorship are the ones
who usually do resort to violence. But the other you know,
like arresting this guy. The sad thing is is that
you see that both sides the political spectrum. And I'm

(01:39:13):
talking about not just the politicians.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
I'm talking about the grassroots.

Speaker 10 (01:39:16):
People are cheering this kind of censorship if they don't
like what you have to say. We have lost the
understanding of the importance of free speech in our society,
and that includes America's not just in Europe, but in
America as well. People don't realize that these tools of
tyranny will be used against them eventually, and have already

(01:39:39):
been used against them in many cases, and they still
are cheering this on. It's truly amazing. I don't know
how you get around it.

Speaker 7 (01:39:46):
Yeah, oh no, I've never seen the country so divide
it there's no room. That's why, you know, the Charlie
Kirk thing was so symbolic, because if you're not going
to talk, you're going to kill each other. It's like,
because they don't want to talk, they want to kill.
And what is that? I mean if you, I know,
you're a great student of history, like where does this go?

(01:40:08):
It goes one place called civil war, That's where it goes.
It's like, this is nothing new. We've seen it thousands
of times before, all throughout history. This when there's a
divide of this extreme nature, where there's no there's no communication.
They're either good or evil, either with me or against me,
it leads to civil war. I mean, I don't know

(01:40:30):
how close we are to it, but unless something radically changes,
which I don't see any evidence of we're in some
perilous times here.

Speaker 10 (01:40:38):
I agree. I agree, yeah, we have. We've lost our foundation,
you know, we've lost our foundation in terms of the
principles that made.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
The West great. And we've lost our.

Speaker 10 (01:40:47):
Foundation because we've turned our back on God. That's what
we were talking about earlier, and that truly is the
foundation as the Lord Jesus Christ. And once we turn
away from that, we are adrift as society. And so
even though we used to have guns everywhere, now the
guns are being turned on each other and being used
on us, and there's a lot of different aspects to it.

(01:41:09):
I think the heavy use of drugs is a part
of that. I think that even plays a role actually
in the technocrats. I had been told years ago that
when these guys would go hang out at the Burning
Man thing, that they were dropping LSD and they were
also taking what was that DMT or something where they
come in contact with machine elves. And the interesting thing

(01:41:31):
about this is that you hear from the same people
who are in different geographical areas.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
They start talking.

Speaker 10 (01:41:38):
About how they had the same types of encounters, and
they're channeling technology from these entities that they're coming in
contact with, and you can have people in radically different
places that have the same experiences that are there. They
even call them psycho knots, not nuts, but knots, like
an astronaut or something.

Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
So yeah, it's interdimensional travel I think. I mean they're
opening a portal to Hell for lack of a better word.
I mean, this tells another dimension, Heaven's dimension, our plane
is dimension. And those drugs somehow, I don't know how
it works. I can't even come close to explain it,
but it makes the veil between the dimensions permeable. Yeah,

(01:42:23):
and they're they able to permeate it with these substances,
and it's a dark energy and we're seeing it and
that's connected to whole a I think we were talking
about before. Yes, and these drugs are facilitating it, and
you're totally right. But the other things when you turn
away from God, I mean Deeparktropa said, you leave a
God shaped hole. So what do you fill that hole with?

(01:42:46):
You're going to fill with drugs or porn or wok
is or something or satan. You know, it's like it
has to be filled because that's part of our human
makeup that we have to have something to believe in.
So if you don't fill with God. The alternatives are

(01:43:06):
anti human and their satanic, and they're dark. You're taking
something that should be filled with light and you're filling
with darkness.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
That's right, absolutely well, you know, it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:43:17):
I use this quite a bit to attack.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
The pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 10 (01:43:21):
I'd call them pharmachia because that's the Greek term that's
using the New Testament frequently was transferred translated as sorcery
because people would include these lucinogenic drugs as part of
their spiritual experience and that type of thing. That's very
old thing. But also it talks about how the pharmachia

(01:43:42):
and the great men of the world would not repent
of their murders. That's how I was using it for
the pharmaceutical companies, and I thought it really fit.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
But that really is what we're seeing.

Speaker 10 (01:43:52):
And with all the technology that we've gotten, all of
this idea about how we are so scientific and material
realistic and we don't believe anything unless we can measure
it well that we have seen over and over again
is simply not true. The people that we disagree with
are more than willing to pursue by faith a lot
of different things, whether they talk about the climate change

(01:44:14):
agenda or the pandemic. They accept a lot of stuff
on the basis of faith. It's just what they have
faith in. They have faith in these institutions, they have
faith in people who have credentials that say that they're
a scientist or an authority in something. So it's just
a difference in what they have faith in. But I
think it's very important what you're doing in terms of

(01:44:36):
artwork that gets to people on a different level than
just talking to them straight about the facts. You know,
whenever we can engage the emotions and art does that,
and you know, movies do that, and Christians are starting
to learn to use the tools of movie making, and
so I think there's going to be some very important
work that is done there. But gradually the Christian movie

(01:44:59):
industry picking up. But I think there's so much that's
been lost in terms of artwork that would move people.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
I think that what you're doing is very important.

Speaker 7 (01:45:09):
Well, thank you, David. Yeah, it's spiking a film. I
started working with a film production company. I think you're right.
The answer is to create a parallel M and E
economy that is in accordance with our values, yeah, and
then the values of Western civilization and Christendom, the things
that we have faith in, things that we believe in,

(01:45:30):
and a lot of it's been sort of kind of hokey,
kitschy stuff up to this point. But we're trying to
create with man Alive Media group, this group I'm working
with right now, we're working on a film about World
War One. We're going to do a film about Joan
of Arc and we're trying to make them very high
minded and to the best of our ability, great pieces

(01:45:51):
of art, because you're right, art speaks on a different
level than just there's a conversation with some kind of conversation.
It's like, you know, poetry or prose. It's like it's
something that engages our mind in a different way and
hopefully opens up and our mind to this conversation. But

(01:46:12):
we have to be able to talk, and censorship is
the enemy of all of us, because then we're not talking,
and if we're not talking, we're probably shooting each other.

Speaker 10 (01:46:21):
Because so we make peaceful change impossible, we make violent
change inevitable.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
As Kennedy said, that's right, and.

Speaker 10 (01:46:29):
I think it's very important. You know, for the longest time,
Christians have retreated from the arts and they feel like
the best way to engage people is with a didactic aspect,
and of course there's value in that, but there's another
way to reach people, and that is by showing them,
you know, and portraying as a narrative. I just talked
to the author of Flags of Our Fathers, who's just

(01:46:53):
done a book on Vietnam. We spent ten years in
Vietnam talking to people there. And his name is James.
Was it James Bradley? I think it was Bradley or Bradley.
I'm sorry, I can't remember his last name, but very
interesting guy. And when he did this book, you know,
his previous books were nonfiction, but he wanted to do

(01:47:15):
a fictional book because he said there were so many
facets and so many different things that he had to
use fictional characters to bring them together. And so not
only does it engage our emotions more so if we
have a narrative story, but it also allows us to
pull together the relevant things in a way that we
couldn't if we had to stick to exactly what the

(01:47:36):
true story was. And Hollywood knows that for the longest time.
Go see something's based on true event. They always change
it always begin this is based on a true story,
but the actual characters are fictionalized and so forth. They
always do that, And so I think it's good the
kind of projects that you mentioned there, when we're talking
about people living their life according to Christian principles, I

(01:47:56):
think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Probably the best way that that can be.

Speaker 10 (01:48:00):
And rather than going in to the Bible and then
fictionalizing that that always kind of rubs me the wrong
trying to rewrite it.

Speaker 7 (01:48:08):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be didactic or so blatant
like I mean, there was great Christian authors, you know,
Tolkien and C. S. Lewis, and they were they were
coming up with their own mythology to sort of mirror
Christian themes without you know, saying literally, this is Jesus
and this is what happened. So you know, Christianity to

(01:48:33):
me is a myth. That's true, yes, but we need
to create alternative myths to reinforce that myth, to bring
people to us, because it's just so boring to just
you know, tell the same story, even in brilliant filmmakers' hands,
like it's been done and it's so it's it's just
going to turn a lot of people off. But if
you do it in a way that's creative and original

(01:48:54):
and interesting and unexpected and entertaining and edifying something different,
Now it's the work of art on its own, not
just pastiche and not just biblical scripture translated into film.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (01:49:10):
I remember the film critic Brian Goadawa, and he actually
was able to do a film. I think it was
called To End All Wars. I'm not sure about that,
but it took place in American soldiers in Japanese in
term of prison camp during World War Two. But his
whole idea is that very much like you know, I
think it was C. S. Lewis who said that the

(01:49:32):
Christian myth is the greatest myth and it's real. You know,
he doesn't mean that it's fictional. He just means by myth,
he means an epic story. And so that was kind
of Brian Goadawa's take on it. He said, you know,
every one of our really the stories that really resonate
with people always have a redemptive arc in the story,

(01:49:52):
and he did a really good job with that, and
he also would kind of draw that out in his film.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Reviews that he did.

Speaker 10 (01:50:00):
But uh, that that I think is something that you know,
if we're not going to be able to fight a
culture war, if we don't have culture someone said, I
think that's exactly true. Right, We're going unarmed, right, I.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
Mean, yeah, it's staying the obvious. But yeah, I mean
we got listen. You know, it's on us, you know, yeah,
I think it incumbent upon Christians of people who are means,
people who are creative, people who have talent or something
to give, like put it towards the cause because the
other side certainly is you know, the Satanists and the
Demons and the Lunatics and the Islamicists and the Marxists,

(01:50:43):
like they're all on board. You know. You just watch
Netflix and there's messaging in every single thing they do.
Oh yeah, so anti Christian, anti mail, anti white, anti American,
and it's just I mean it's so ham fisted, but
they shoehorned into everything. The story does nothing to do
with what they're talking about those you know, well white

(01:51:03):
people are bad. What does that have to do with
the comedy I was watching so right, you know, we
could do it more artfully. There's so many great artists
and writers out there that are Christian and we need
to come together and build these teams and that's what
I'm trying to do in my own little way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
That's great.

Speaker 10 (01:51:22):
So the best place for people to find out how
they can get your book when it's available, and also
to find out about the Jesus Park if they want
to get involved and they go fund me, we need
to go to your website, Anthony Frieda, and that is
f R E. D A dot com right, so yes,
way for them to find you anything. It's always been

(01:51:43):
great talking to you. I only had a chance to
meet you once and that was up at Jerrold's event
four years ago and his occupy piece thing, And so
when I saw that you had a book out there,
it's like, oh yeah, I definitely love to talk to
anything about that. You've got a great story to tell
and it's been a great journey that you've been on.
I really want to thank you for the work that

(01:52:04):
you have done. It's been very important and look forward
to a lot more to come from you in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 7 (01:52:11):
Thank you, David.

Speaker 10 (01:52:13):
All right, thank you. Let me before we run out
of time, let me get to some of the comments
that are up here, and as Lance my producer said,
Jesus used parables and analogies. That's right, so we're following
in the right way when we use those type of
things as well. Some one of his favorite ways to
get a point across was to use a parable a

(01:52:35):
story about something and in most cases I think there
was at least one or two that were not fictional,
but they were all giving a story there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
And so.

Speaker 10 (01:52:50):
Crash and Splash seventy five says. The average lifespan a lithium
minor thirty years. So enjoy your battery, I said, like
a lot of these things, well, co cobalt is being
dug out of the mines by young children operating at
slave wages and a situation that kills them. So yeah,

(01:53:11):
that is we have to understand this. Behind a lot
of this stuff, Car insurance is now hired to pay
for than battery burns says Joelson's and Guard Goldsmith good
to see the Guard Liberty conspiracy says. Last year, the
very US government bureau tasked with promoting EV travel banned
EV buyings and scooters from being brought into their Colorado

(01:53:33):
building for fear of fire.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
That's right. Jason Barker, nice the storm, good to see you.

Speaker 10 (01:53:39):
He says AI is good for memes, but not for
real art, meme images and music, and that's really you
know what it does. I mean, a meme just kind
of picks up on a theme and imitates it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
And that's precisely what AI is.

Speaker 10 (01:53:54):
But the real danger of AI is not that it's
going to become some self aware sky net thing. I
think the real danger is that it is a very
effective tool for pulling together data and for doing searches
and surveillance that can be used to control us.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
That's really where the devil is in that detail. Thank
you so much for joining us. Have a good.

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
Day making sense common again.

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Speaker 10 (01:56:04):
This is an article from RT and it kind of
goes into the philosophy of Alexander Dugan. If you remember him,
the guy that they say is Putin's resputant or Putin's brain.
He is a philosopher. His daughter was assassinated. They were
trying to get him, and I had the opportunity to
interview him when I was at Info Wars, which is
kind of a strange interview I wasn't quite sure where

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the guy was coming from. This is at the beginning
of the Trump administration, and at that point there was
a lot of enthusiasm amongst general Russians thinking that, well,
this is great. We're not going to have the Russia
Russia Russia of fear anymore. We're going to normalize relations
with Trump. Even had if you remember, a small town

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named a street after Trump temporarily until Trump showed that
he was on the same team.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
With these people.

Speaker 10 (01:56:54):
But as part of that, there was a guy he
used to work for Fox News, and he contacted Info
Wars because he was now working with a TV network
in Russia, and he said, I'd like to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Get dugan on.

Speaker 10 (01:57:07):
I was the one that they had interview him, and
unfortunately I wish I had had the time to read
his book. I didn't know about his book. I didn't
understand that. I was looking at some other articles about it.
Just came up very quickly. But he wrote a book
talking about the Fourth Approach. And when I interviewed him,
it was kind of strange because I perceived this guy

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as coming from a more traditionalist, almost Czarist nationality, because
a lot of stuff they talks about is very nostalgic
for that period of time and that type of thing.
So I thought, this is a guy who's anti communist,
and maybe this is why they want us to interview him.
And so when I asked him, there was some talk
at the time. Some of the people were saying, we've
got to get Lennen out of Red Square. You know,

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they've had his decaying body there and Red Square since
he died, I don't know, maybe getting close to a
central you go. And so there's some people wanted to
move his body out there, and so I asked him
about it, and goes, oh, no, no, that's part of
our history and we honor it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
And it's like, Okay, where's this guy coming from. He
likes Lenen, and he likes the Czars.

Speaker 10 (01:58:14):
He's all about culture and history, and so he sees
all of that as playing into a cultural history. And
his view is that instead of having a philosophy, a
political philosophy and economic philosophy that can be used for
world domination, we need to have the world set up
with multiple cultural and ethnic diversity.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Really, it's real diversity. They're talking about real.

Speaker 10 (01:58:40):
Multiculturalism, where you have national cultural ethnic identities and people
are operating in their own interest. In other words, what
we had before this kind of globalism. And when you
look at the three philosophies communism, fascism, liberalism, liberalism meaning
what we have in the West, and I guess really

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that kind of liberalism which is not really about liberty,
but that's how they try to sell it. And so
in all of these they have all resulted in governments
who seek to have global domination because we understand that
power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they can

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never have enough. These people who are in political power
are just like the billionaires. You could be a billionaire,
you could be a trillionaire, and it still won't be enough.
Of these people, they always want more. And so you
can be the leader of the world's largest country, richest country,
most powerful country, and you're always going to want more.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
You're going to want to be the leader of a
region or a leader of the entire world. And we
see this play out. It's just human nature. And so.

Speaker 10 (01:59:49):
This is an interview that RTE had with a guy
who is co founder of Austria's identitarian movement that believes
that liberal Europe has lost its way. So what is
the identifyitarian movement? Well, it's about nationalist preservation cultural, ethnic
national identities. And so this guy was inspired by Alexander

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Dugan and his fourth political theory, and.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
It is.

Speaker 10 (02:00:19):
Again like I said, liberalism, communism, fascism. But then he
puts out he envisions a world of multipolarity, a world
of distinct civilizations with their own culture values that rejects
universal ideologies. But key to all this is that he
sees it as being led by Russia. He thinks that

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only Russia can lead this. Also, when I talked to him,
it was kind of interesting his view of America as
just being a successor to Great Britain and its sea power,
and so he saw a continuity of seapower versus land power,
Russia of course being lanmdpower, China as well being land power,

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but the American and British tradition was one of seapower,
which led them especially to being able to do global
domination economically. And so he sees Russia and as the
only counterweight to this kind of Western globalization. Markovic is
the guy that they interviewed. He's moved, he said, beyond

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a single focus issue on immigration, turning instead to a
broader philosophical program that champions Eurasian unity, a sovereign European civilization,
and resistance to the West's rule of Deceit today serves
as a secretary general and press spokesman for an institute
that was named after a famous Russian military commander. So

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this is a Vienna based organization found in twenty fourteen
to promote Austrian Russian dialogue and to safeguard Europe's cultural heritage,
he says, from liberal globalist erosion. So you can imagine
he's got a big target on his back here with
the Austrian government. And we have seen that the Austrian

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Nationalist Party, even though they won the election the last election,
all the other parties got together because he in a
multi party election, nobody's can get past fifty percent, so
you've always got to have a coalition. Well, as we
saw in France, and with the Nationalist Party that's there,
all of the other parties set aside all of their

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differences over everything else, and the communists, the socialists, the
liberals that were there all united against the Nationalist Party
to make sure that it didn't form a government.

Speaker 11 (02:02:38):
So it's in opposition, which also want to show you
just how little difference there is from the liberals, the
socialists and the communists. They're all interchangeable, they're all for
the exact same thing. France is the same as it
was before that happened.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:02:54):
He's been branded as a Russian agent because he is
working for a Russian institute that is there.

Speaker 6 (02:03:00):
You'll probably take that as a compliment.

Speaker 10 (02:03:03):
He is a devote of Alexander Dugan's fourth political Theory,
and for him, the struggle is existential, a battle for
Europe's soul in the face of unipolar collapse. He envisions
a continent that is reborn through faith, tradition multipolar solidarity
with Russia. In his view, Austria can either remain a

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compliant satellite of Brussels and Washington, in other words, the
EU or the US, or we claim its historic role
as a bridge between East and West. The choice, he warns,
will determine whether future generations inherit a sovereign European civilization
or a museum piece. I would describe it more as
a cut flower. The problem with Europe is far more

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fundamental than any kind of political or philosophical issue. It
is a cut flower because these people have cut themselves
off from the vine, the vine of the Lord Jesus Christ.
They want the fruit of Christian society, but they don't
want Christ. That is the fundamental issue, and it is

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not about political theory. The fundamental issue culture and politics.
All that stuff is downstream from your relationship with God,
and it's not something that you can even operate yourself.
If you shake your fist against God, He's going to
shake your country back. And this is I think what
we're seeing here. Western media often labels you as far
right and as a Russian agent. Is this just a

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smear campaign to discredit multipolar voices? He says, yes, without question.
In Austria today, any Christian who openly declares belief in God,
Jesus Christ, in the Holy Spirit is branded far right.
Anyone questioning NATO's expansion since nineteen ninety one or calling
for an end to arms deliveries to Kiev is accused
of being a Russian agent. Even communist and socialists are

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smeared with the same labels if they criticize fascism in
Ukraine or Western involvement in the Maidan coup. Conservatives who
affirm biological reality that there's only two sexes are attacked
just as fiercely. If advocating peace and a multipolar world
order makes one a fascist, then half of Austria would

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qualify under these absurd definitions, he says. They asked him,
do you believe the West's unipolar dominance is collapsing?

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (02:05:21):
Since the so called war on Terror began in two
thousand and one, the West has been in a permanent
state of crisis. And this is by design. It was
an inside job to create a permanent state of crisis.
The COVID was the other shot drop. As I've said
many times, the migration crisis, the financial crisis, now the
war against Russia have all accelerated the breakdown of Western unipolarity.

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He left out COVID, which I think is really huge.
That was a massive global strike against US. So nine
to eleven was targeted towards America, but COVID was really
a global agenda. Same type of thing. This collapse, though,
he said, offers hope the end of liberal to tolitarianism.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Think about that.

Speaker 10 (02:06:08):
That's kind of it looks at first like it is
a contradiction in terms, because you know, you think liberal.
I think classical liberal, but I think that truly is
liberal to Tolitarianism is what we're really seeing here. Yet
it also brings danger, as governments may adopt ever harsher
measures to cling to power. The fall of the West

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is inevitable. The only uncertainty is how and when it
will conclude. So they ask him, is the conflict between
Russia and the West really about Ukraine or the clash
of civilizations? He said, it is a class of civilizations.
As Samuel Huntington predicted. The West is fighting the rest
of the world to preserve its dominance. On the opposing

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side stands the bricks nation, and this multiple multipolar order,
and what we see them trying to do with bricks
really flows out of Alexander Dugan's philosophy. Here, he said,
our goal is not a global nineteen eighty four, but
the great awakening of all people. Now, look, this all
sounds wonderful, doesn't it. Just remember we're talking about politicians here,

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and they will always come up with some grand scheme
that sounds wonderful. The Communists had a great marketing plan
as well. Austria has fallen victim to a globalist enforced conformity.
They even have a German word for it, and they
have abandoned their sovereignty. Restoring that sovereignty is essential if
Europe is to exist as an independent poll in a peaceful,

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multi polar world.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
Europe is in the.

Speaker 10 (02:07:44):
Midst of cultural suicide, ruled by decadent liberal globalist elite
that despises God and worships wealth. This elite promotes gender confusion,
endless wars, and mass migration while ignoring collapsing birth rates.
And he says Russia must be willing to aid in
Europe's re christianization. I just don't think that they are

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the model that we need to see. And again he
talks about the Freedom Party that's there in Austria, how
they were blocked after they won the election, and as
we said before, in France, even as a Leapenn's party
trashed them in the European elections, and in the first
round of the French elections they gained even more votes,

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and in the second and final round of the French
elections they picked up even more support. So how was
it that they crashed from first place to third place.
It's because Macron and all these other political parties regardless
of what their stated political philosophy was. They agreed that
they would look to see who in every region, they

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would say, which of our parties has the strongest candidate,
and we will have all the other parties drop out
and throw their support behind that candidate in order to
oppose the national party. That's the game that they played
here in America. We've only got two parties to start with,
and these guys are playing the game of jerry mandering.

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So it operates a little bit differently here, and you're
always going to have a winner in a two party thing.
So we don't we form our coalitions before the elections
instead of after the elections. It is the political parties
that are going to determine who the candidates are. That's
why it was such a big deal when Mike Johnson
went to this meeting with Jewish elites and said, we're

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going to police out people who are opposed to you
out of the party. They can make sure that you
don't win, and even if you run in a primary,
they can utilize their forces to run everything against you.
And that's the way it's done in the US, instead
of done after the election with a coalition.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Speaker 10 (02:10:28):
Welcome back and joining us now is Eric Peters of
Eric petersautos dot Com. Always great to have Eric on.
He has focused on liberty and mobility because you can't
have one without the other. It's kind of all what
Jefferson said about life and liberty. He said, the hand
of force can destroy life or liberty, but cannot separate them.

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Of course he said disjoin them. But that's a little
bit stilted o our language, but it definitely is true,
and you cannot disjoin liberty and mobility either. So I
always enjoy Eric's take on things. Eric, I was sad
to see that you're we were just talking about this
over the break. You wrote a piece three days ago.

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You said, our Charlie, what happened in your family?

Speaker 9 (02:11:16):
Well, yeah, it's a tough thing to talk about. I
hope I'll be able to do this well enough. But
we had a had about a two and a half
year old mixed breed German shepherd lab and you know
he's been my companion for that full time and just
a very big presence in our life. Anyway, he got
hit by I guess a car truck. I'm not sure

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exactly which, And it was really jarring because, as anybody
who's been through having a pet die knows, it's one
thing when your pet is elderly and old or sick,
and you you know, you understand that it's going to happen,
and you have time to prepare for it, but you know,
with a with a young pet like that, to just
be gone instantly, just like that, just what happened really difficult.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:11:58):
Boy, For the last several day. This happened on Friday,
I've been having deja vu, you know, certain times of
the day like oh, I better put water in paces bowl,
or oh, it's time for us to go for our run.
I went for a run on Monday, and you know,
one of his things that he would do, he would
carry around he was a strong dog, a big log
in his mouth and he would keep it in his
mouth for a mile or more on our run. You know,

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It's just one of those things. And as I'm running
by myself, which was strange, I saw one of the
logs that he dropped off on the trail and it
just really I'm sorry, kind of really, I'm being overly
emotional about it, So I.

Speaker 10 (02:12:33):
Apologize Oh no, I understand, absolutely understand. It's like you said,
it's the suddenness of this, and I think that's one
of the things that really magnified what happened to Charlie Kirk.
But I think, you know, when we look at it
and how they have taken his legacy and they have
flipped it completely opposite of what he was known for,
what he ought to be remembered for. They're doing everything

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they can.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
To make a.

Speaker 10 (02:13:00):
A saint, a celebrity whatever. There in Oklahoma. They want
to put a Charlie Kirk statue on every university campus.
I think the right way to honor him is to
support free speech, But it seems like the people who
agreed with him and who followed him want to do
just the opposite of that. They want to attack free speech,

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and they think this gives them an opportunity to do
what they know the left was doing to them before.

Speaker 9 (02:13:26):
What do you think to take Trump? Did you happen
to ask the interview? It was a couple of days
after Kirk's assassination, and I wish I could remember who
the journalist was. It was a woman, and you know,
she was asking Trump about the calls to suppress what
they called hate speech. Now, it's interesting that Trump all
people right is not even exactly what they excoriated the

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left for doing during the twenty twenty four campaign season,
and it was one of the reasons why people voted
for Trump, because they were tired of having their differing
opinions framed as hate.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (02:13:58):
Well, I've got a question. Oh, you're hateful. You know,
we can't discuss that because clearly you're a Cretan and
you're you know, you're motivated by malicious motives rather than Hey,
I just have a question. Anyway, This female reporter asked
Trump about that, and Trump had the egregious vulgar gall
to say something like, uh, well, Charlie Cook, does he

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may not think that way anymore. I can't remember that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:21):
Yes, that's exactly what he said. We played that clip.

Speaker 10 (02:14:23):
Yeah, she said, Charlie Kirch said there's no such thing
as hate speech. I probably wouldn't say that now. Yeah,
that's basically despicable.

Speaker 9 (02:14:30):
Because again, everything that whether you agree with what Kirk
had to say or not, I think the one thing
that has to be universally acknowledged is that he was
willing to debate. He was willing to discuss practically any topic,
including even Israel lately, and you know the influence of
the Israeli government over the American government, and I think
that's ultimately what got him into trouble. You know, Trump
demands Lockstep adherents and even worship of himself and his policies,

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and he does it in a manner that's just so
abrasive and insulting to the people who support him. This
this latest business of doing the parking break one eighty
on Ukraine. You know, again, it's another example. You know,
if people had been aware that he was going to
do that in twenty twenty four, I doubt many people
would have voted for him. One of the reasons, strong
reasons people voted for him was we are sick of

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all these wars. We're sick of being forced to finance
it through our taxes and thereby be complicit in it.
You know, the mass murder in Gaza. We want no
part of this stuff. It's got to stop. That's one
of the reasons why people voted for him. And now
this brazen guy just says, well, we're going to back Ukraine.
And not only that, he's saying that Ukraine has a
right to not only sees back every territory that it's lost,

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but potentially even more than that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Yeah, it takes some back from Russia. Exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:15:41):
It's madness. How do they think that this is going
to be received by Putin? What do you think Putin's
response to this is going to be. I wouldn't be
surprised if he amps things up because he believes that
he's got a narrow window of opportunity now to finish
this situation before boots that go on the ground, potentially
American boots.

Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (02:16:00):
Yeah, he's taunting Putin, saying he doesn't have much a military.
He could have finished this off in a couple of weeks,
you know, like we finished off Afghanistan right in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 9 (02:16:09):
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine
who stopped by yesterday about this, and we got to
talking about Putin versus Trump and the difference between a
serious person and a clown.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:16:20):
Now, whatever you may think of Putin, you don't have
to say that you like him. You know, that's a
childish argument. It's not about whether you think he's a
nice man or a bad man. He's a serious man.
He's a serious person with serious credentials, who is not
an idiot and who understands history. And look at Trump,
what do we have. You know, we literally have a
clown going up against a serious person, a dangerous clown.

Speaker 2 (02:16:41):
I believe he was installed for that very reason.

Speaker 10 (02:16:45):
You know, he even had his first Commerce secretary, William
Let's see Webber Ross, who said that you know, it
was the Rothschild bank that he was working for, and
he said, you know, when Trump was going bankrupt, he
showed up and he saw this big crowd around him.
He said, I contacted the Rothschild people and I said, hey,
this is somebody I think we could use. I think
that's exactly what they're doing. They're using him as a clown.

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They're using him to divide people, They're using him to
create chaos. I think that's his role.

Speaker 9 (02:17:12):
And also a distraction, and maybe the worst kind of
distraction imaginable. You know, as everything falls apart internally, and
you know, potentially, let's say the Epstein things percolates up again,
or we find new details about what may have been
involved in Kirk's murder that could have incredibly damaging repercussions.
What would be a perfect thing to get people's mind

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off of that, Well, perhaps a big war in Eastern Europe.
Do just that. That's right, and that's what I have
this creepy feeling maybe in the works, and.

Speaker 2 (02:17:42):
I think he's absolutely capable of it.

Speaker 10 (02:17:44):
You know, you look at what he's doing with the
trying to make an excuse that he can blow up
ships off of Venezuela without even stopping them or verifying
that they're running drugs. And as I pointed out at
the same time that he's saying, this is an appropriate response,
and JD. Vance is saying it's appropriate. Marco Rubio and
Pete Haigseth are all saying, oh, this is what our

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military is for.

Speaker 2 (02:18:06):
No, it's not.

Speaker 10 (02:18:07):
We had our military was stopping ships, inspecting them. If
they find drugs, they would take the drugs, they would
arrest the people. They didn't line them up on the
side of the boat and machine gun them. And so
this is an extra judicial killing. I told the audience
earlier on the program, I said, Dutarte did this in
the Philippines. He said, you know, you think it's a
drug dealer, shoot to kill and he's now in the

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International Criminal Court and they're looking at him for those
extra judicial killings. It's a crime, it's a war crime
that he's doing, so he's perfectly capable.

Speaker 9 (02:18:40):
Yeah, it's a psychopathic elaboration of that old if you
see something, say something. Now, if you see something, kill something. Yeah,
these are acts of war, and they're also the acts
of a coward bully in that Venezuela. It's just another
example of big old Uncle Sam throwing his weight around
and extraditionally extra judicially killing foreign nationals outside of the

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United States with impunity because you know, we can do it.
What's Venezuela going to do about it?

Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
That's right?

Speaker 9 (02:19:07):
You know, I think at some point Trump is going
to whack the wrong guy, and Putin could be just
the guy who's the wrong guy to whack.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:19:15):
Yeah, it's very concerning, you know, even escalated saying yeah,
we should shoot down Russian jets if they get any
more close to the borders and things like that as well.
It's a dangerous time that we live. And of course,
very much like the Chinese curse, isn't it may you
live in interesting times. There's never a shortage of thanks
to report on it. It's like and now for something
completely different from Trump than he said yesterday.

Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
You know, it's like Monty Python, I'm glad.

Speaker 9 (02:19:37):
You brought up China. It just I happened. I needed
to break the other day, and so I was just
watching some random YouTube videos, and I was watching some
videos of depicting scenes in China around, for example, their
train stations and their airports, their infrastructure, which is immaculate
and modern. I looked at their bullet trains and I
compared it with what's going on in this country. You know,
China is actually concerned with China and trying to build

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up its own internal society and improve itself, where it
seems that the US is de industrializing and rapidly descending
from second to third world status, you know, to the
extent we can actually see the change from day to day.

Speaker 10 (02:20:13):
Yeah, and it's by design, and it's by the same
people that are running Trump, even though he pushes back
against the climate mcguffin that I call it still it's
the deliberate de industrialization of the West. And there's two
sides of that. They want to de industrialize the West
while they give China the advantage in terms of manufacturing,

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and the huge advantage that they have is in terms
of energy costs. But as Gerald Clenti has said many
times on the show, he said, the business of China
is business. The business of America is war, and that's
not serving us well.

Speaker 9 (02:20:47):
And constructiveness. Yeah, I saw something also related to China
that talked. It was a person talking about how in
China the oligarchs, the really rich people kind of do
what American oligarchs did in the late part of the
nineteenth in early twentieth century, when they did things like
the Carnegie Library. You know, they funded these these vast
things that were good for Americans, you know, leaving aside

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the question of corporate oligarchs. At least they put me
back into the country, whereas now the oligarch class in
this country just flaunts its gratuitous, egregious theft wealth, you know,
with one twenty thousand dollars mcmanson after the next, and
yachts and lavish lifestyles, thumbing their nose and rubbing our
faces in it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:27):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:21:28):
And to make it clear, you know, when you look
at somebody like Henry Ford, who had his issues, he
wanted to make sure that his workers could afford to
buy the product that he has. Who's going to buy
these products when they replace all of us with robots,
That's what their goal is. They won't replace everybody with robots.
And I said when Trump did his tax cut in

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twenty seventeen, because it was all targeted towards corporations and
he was going to incentivize them to bring to onshore manufacturing,
I said, that's not going to happen until they've got
the robots to replace the workers they. I said, that's
why they've got the open border immigration. And once they
have robots to that point, they'll get tough on immigration,

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and they will pay these oligarchs a lot of money
to bring factories back, but it's not going to bring
back any jobs. They're just going to be incentivized to
build the factories and they'll brag about the fact that
they've got manufacturing in the United States, but they won't
be using it to raise the standard of living of anybody.
And I think that's really is what is happening and

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what is going to happen.

Speaker 9 (02:22:33):
I think so too, And I'd like to focus in
on something that you mentioned which has to do with
that word about owning things. You know, they're not concerned
about that. It's not that they're well, how are people
going to be able to afford these fifty thousand dollars
vehicles that they're pushing out right now? They know that
the end goal is for you to not own.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
The vehicle exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:22:52):
The end goal is for you to rent the ride,
to rent everything, you know, sort of like the way
that you pay for a streaming service that you can
watch TV. That's what they want, Serial debt. They want
to completely disconnect us, you know, the typical average American
from owning anything, in order to control everything.

Speaker 2 (02:23:12):
It isn't like they didn't tell us.

Speaker 10 (02:23:13):
They constantly say, you will own nothing, right, yes, you'll
be happy. And I thought about you this way, so
I wanted to get you back on because, yeah, I
haven't talked to Eric for a while. I saw that
Portia was having problems, and Portia, of course owned by VW,
and the two of them are having to pull back
because they can't sell their evs. And I remember, I said,

(02:23:35):
and I talked to the audience. I said, yeah, Eric's
been saying this for the longest time. They should have
hired him as CEO of Portia, they wouldn't have had
this issue because you knew, and of course common sense
would tell us that they have a huge advantage. These
companies that have been making internal combustion engines for a
long time, they had a huge advantage to China or
to other potential competitors that had to be destroyed by

(02:23:58):
saying no, now we can't use internal combustion engines. We're
going to have to do the skates of the evs.
And China's got the advantage with the battery technology. They've
also got now a manufacturing advantage in terms of cheap
available energy.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
Energy is so expensive in the UK they're.

Speaker 10 (02:24:15):
Shutting down all their manufacturing, and in Germany it's very expensive.
They can't be cost competitive with it. But now they're saying, hey,
we're going to have to pull back a little bit.
We've mal invested billions of dollars in the EV industry.
Nobody wants these things, nobody's buying it, So now we're
going to have to pull back and try to have
a cottage industry of maybe being allowed to sell some

(02:24:38):
internal combustion engines. But it's going to break the back
if it's even allowed of these, if they even allow
them to sell a few boutique things to the rich,
it's still going to break their back.

Speaker 9 (02:24:50):
It will, and this is a general problem. Stillanta switches
to the parent company of the Dodge. RAMJEP and Chryst Lobal
Brands announced about a week ago that they were not
going to produce the electric version of the Ram fifteen
hundred pickup that they had planned to bring out in
twenty twenty six, because they understand that it would be
a disaster, that nobody's going to buy it. And so
rather than just build these things and then shipping them

(02:25:12):
to dealers where they're just going to sit and then
having to give them away fire sale prices, which is
what Fordes had to do with the fighting, they figured
it is smart thing to do is to cut bait.
You know, they've practically destroyed the Dodge brand already by
getting rid of the engine in the charger and getting
rid of the Challenger altogether and replacing it with this
electric charger, which has been an epic flop. I mean,
it is even worse than the Adds, a disaster back

(02:25:35):
in the fifties. It hasn't been remarked on but I mean,
it's that bad. They can't sell these things. I have
yet to see one in the wild. I have yet
to see one on the road. They haven't even sent
me one to review yet. Because you know, it's not
just that they're short range and all the other problems
that electric vehicles have. It's not well made. It's a problematic,
problem prone vehicle that suffers endless glitches such as bricking,

(02:25:58):
to the point where they have to send out a
technician to try to figure out why it won't move. Now,
the other thing is that you brought up I find
this endlessly fascinating with regard to portion and these other
manufacturers that are no longer run by car people, because
any car guy would tell you that a Porsche there
are intangibles. When it comes to a car like that.
It's not just about how quickly it goes to zero

(02:26:20):
to sixty, the fatal error and thinking, well, we'll just
basically produce a Tesla that looks like a Porsche essentially,
you know, and somehow we'll sell that, failing to understand
that one of the big reasons that people buy Porsches
is because they love that six cylinder Boxer engine, and
they love the sound that it makes and the emotional,
visceral feeling that you get that is lost entirely. Electric

(02:26:43):
vehicles are fundamentally homogenous. Say what you will about you know,
well they reply it and this and that, But they're
fundamentally when you drive one, you've driven them all.

Speaker 10 (02:26:49):
Yeah, you know, and don't they does Porsche and some
of these other sports car companies when they make their evs,
do they take the Tesla approach in terms of instrumentation,
because that's one of the things that is also a
part of the field. You know, how does the controls feel?
Does it feel solid or tendsy? I hate the idea
that I've got to use a touchscreen while I'm driving.

(02:27:10):
How is that safe? You know, you're supposed to use
hands off of your phone or we'll give you a ticket.
But hey, it's a wonderful thing if we take all
the controls. Even on Tesla, you can't even adjust the
direction of the air vents without using the touchpad that
is attached to the dashboard.

Speaker 9 (02:27:28):
Yep, And they're all doing it now right now in
the driveway. I have a brand new twenty twenty six
Kia Sportage, which is a nothing special little crossover. The
stickers for about twenty eight thousand dollars and it's got
a full width, single sheet LCD screen for everything, you know,
the main instrument cluster, and then off to its right
is the thing that you have to tap and swipe
through in order to operate functions such as, you know,

(02:27:50):
changing the station that you're listening to. And you're right,
And it's just an illustration of how disingenuous the government
is because on the one hand, they say to people, ah,
you can't use your cell phone and while you're driving,
because it's dangerous to be looking at your phone and
swiping and tapping a screen while you're trying to drive.
You can't keep your eyes on the road. But it's
no problem if you build the thing into the car.

Speaker 2 (02:28:10):
Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 10 (02:28:11):
We need to have some controls that I have to
take my seat belt off in order to use.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:28:16):
So one of the you know, to get back to
circle back to what we were talking about, the great
disaster in my opinion, and it's another one is that
this homogeneity of appearance in the interior of cars that
has been that has been bequeathed to us by this
obsession with reproducing the smartphone in your car, the look
of a smartphone, So now you've lost that individuality too,

(02:28:37):
instead of having this kind of neat array of gauge.
Is a really good example of this. A couple of
weeks ago, I had the latest Mini Cooper and it
used to be that one of the cool things about
the Mini Cooper, which is owned by the Germans, it's
owned by BMW, but nonetheless was that they replicated the feel,
the look and the function of the sixties Minis. You know,
if you've ever been in one of the old models,
they had the cool little chrome toggle switches, you know,

(02:28:59):
and it happened vibe to it, that feel, and it
was like no other car. Well, they did what everybody
else is doing, and they got rid of essentially all
of the physical tactile controls, the switches and knobs, and
in lieu of that, they put one gigantic pie plate touchscreen,
you know, in the middle, in the center of the
and it looks cheap, it looks homogeneous, and it's also
in a way, in my opinion, it's anti human. It's

(02:29:21):
antiseptic cold.

Speaker 10 (02:29:23):
You know, they shut down the last UK factory for
the Mini BMW. Did am I correct? I think they
just shout, but I wouldn't be surprised I saw something
because again, you can't do manufacturing in the US because
hair Starmer, the Nazi doesn't want you to have any energy,
so they shut it down.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
I don't think, you know.

Speaker 10 (02:29:44):
And it was an article out of the UK and
they were saying, you know, this is something that was
fundamentally British, as you point about, very any idiosyncratic, and
now it's not going to be made anymore in Britain
because of the cost of energy.

Speaker 2 (02:30:00):
This there.

Speaker 9 (02:30:01):
Yeah, if nothing survives any longer except the brand, you know,
that's what you get labeled. Well, you know, inside all
the same.

Speaker 10 (02:30:09):
When you talk about the design of these cars and
how we've lost so much of this around this area.
You know, we're not too far away from Pigeon Forge
and last week they just had a big classic car
show and that's when it really hits home. You know,
when you see one of these cars, which it never
really valued. I mean it might have just been like

(02:30:30):
a family sedan or something, you know, fifty years ago,
but you look at it, it's like, wow, that's really quirky.
That's kind of interesting looking. Look at those colors, you know,
and all the rest of this stuff. Look at the colors,
look at the chrome. It really is entertaining to see
cars that were just ordinary cars or ordinary trucks half
a century ago. To see them and to see how
different they were and how unique they all were. And

(02:30:52):
so it really kind of drives it home. Here in
the Pigeon Forge area. They have these car shows that
happened frequently. The big one was last weekend. They had that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:02):
But you've got some articles at Eric.

Speaker 10 (02:31:05):
Peters autos dot com about some of the difficulties of
keeping these older cars running.

Speaker 2 (02:31:11):
Talk about ethanol blues. What's that about.

Speaker 9 (02:31:14):
Well, yeah, you know, I have to, as the saying
goes in the hood, cop to something which is embarrassing
for me, because you know, I shouldn't all of all
people just should not have happened to me. But I
was lazy one day, this is several months back, probably
about eight months ago, when I was out driving my
old muscle car. I have a seventy six trans am
and rather than go all the way into town where

(02:31:35):
they have a station that sells unadulterated pure gasoline, which
is normally what I use to fill the car up
with because it sits sometimes for I get preoccupied with
work and other things. Sometimes the car, unfortunately, will sit
for several months before I have time to drive it. Anyway,
I filled it up with E ten, which is only
ninety percent gas and ten percent ethanol, and I left

(02:31:56):
it to sit, and it sat for about three months.
God helped me. You know, I deserve to be beaten
for that. Anyway, I went, I went to start it,
and boy, I barely got it to run, and it
was going, you know, smoke pouring out of it. A
long story short, I ended up having to take the
carburetor off the engine and completely disassemble it and clean

(02:32:17):
out the ethanol gunk inside the carburetor because the fuel
had gone bad over the time that I kept it
in storage. Basically, and you know this is a problem
with these older vehicles because you know, my car was
made in nineteen seventy six, and in nineteen seventy six,
when you bought gas, you actually got gas for your money,
hundred percent gasoline. Most people don't understand that most pomp

(02:32:38):
gas is ten percent ethanol alcohol. And if you own
a vehicle that was made before that came into being.
That vehicle was not designed for alcohol. Alcohol is a
different fuel than gasoline. It has different properties. It attracts
water among other things. It's corrosive.

Speaker 10 (02:32:54):
Does it degrade faster than pure gasoline? Then, I guess does.
That's what you're saying, because pure gasoline will be as well, right,
but much longer period of time.

Speaker 2 (02:33:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:33:03):
Anybody who has outdoor power equipment knows that the real
problem is if you put ethanol in a gas jugg
let's say, and you put it in your shed and
leave it, you know, it'll tend to accumulate water much
more rapidly than regular gasoline. And you can also look
at the color that change in the color, you know,
as it starts to go from almost translucent to sort
of a yellow and then a darker yellow color. And
that's a clue not to use it.

Speaker 2 (02:33:24):
By the way, Well, that's interesting.

Speaker 10 (02:33:27):
You also talk about oil and additives and the oil
that are different now for the older cars.

Speaker 9 (02:33:33):
Oh yeah, it's not just the additives. Again. To get
circling back to the transam, after I cleaned out the
gunk from the carburetor and got it running well again,
I recognized, oh boy, it's time to change the oil.
So I went down to the autoparts store and I
looked at the rack of oil, and the rack of
oil is you know, it's the whole with the store.
They have all kinds of different oil, but they didn't
have any ten forty anymore, you know, and my car

(02:33:56):
when it was made was designed to have ten forty oil.
So that's what's specified, and that's what I use. There's
a reason why there's a specification, you know, and generally speaking,
it's sound policy to follow what the specification is. Yeah,
but you know, if you've been to it, if you've
been to a car parks store lately and looked at
the oil rack, you'll see all these exotic formulations, you know,
zero W fifty this and that because they thinned out

(02:34:19):
the oil because it helps with compliance. You know. This
is this is again, it offers the manufacturers this incremental
friction reduction which translates into slightly higher gas models not
anything you would notice as a vehicle owner, but when
you factor it out over say half a million vehicles
that you build, then it helps corporate average fuel economy
with the compliance with that federal requirement and it also

(02:34:41):
helps with emissions. And you know, this is the obsession
now that the manufacturers have it's compliance. Their primary customer
now is the government, not you. You know, you're sort
of an incidental person. I'm starting to buy what the
government says you're allowed to have.

Speaker 10 (02:34:55):
That's right, that's right because the government and put them
out of business if they don't please the government. And
so that is their primary customer. In so many cases,
the only customer that they care about is the government.
That's really what's going on with social media and with YouTube,
I think, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:35:10):
It is?

Speaker 9 (02:35:10):
And so long story short, I ended up having to
go online to find a good, high quality ten forty
for my old muscle car. Now, previously I'd also had
to go online to get there's an additive. It generally
it goes by the acronym ZDDP, and it's essentially a
zinc manganese additive, and it used to be present in
all the store bought motor oils, but they began to

(02:35:32):
take it out and now there's a much less of
that additive in store bought motor oil. If you have
a new or late model vehicle, it doesn't matter the
engine was designed for that. But if you have an
older vehicle, particularly an older American vehicle with what's called
a flat tap at camshaft, so essentially an American car
made before the early eighties with a V eight engine,
typically it's important that you use that additive. And if

(02:35:54):
you're going to be somebody to go, if you're going
to go out and buy one of those classic cars
from that era, it's something to be aware of because
if you don't use that additive, you risk valve train failure.
Those the camshaft and lifters in those engines were designed
to have that anti friction additive in it, and if
you use regular oil, you're very likely to have a
problem that you don't want to have.

Speaker 10 (02:36:14):
What about the aftermarket, Let's say that you have some
problems because you didn't have the right oil and fuel
and things like that. How difficult is it to get
parts for these things? I'm sure it varies depending on
how rare your car is, but just something's kind of
in the middle or something maybe like a you know,

(02:36:35):
a fifties Chevy or something like that, is it really diffinitely?
Do they have much of an aftermarket for parts with that?

Speaker 9 (02:36:42):
Yeah? Particularly with mechanical things. One of the great pluses
of owning, say a General Motors product or forward product
from that era is that they shared mechanical things.

Speaker 2 (02:36:52):
Engines.

Speaker 9 (02:36:52):
You know, an engine like a small block Chevy was
used in practically every model vehicle that Chevrolet made, you know,
from the fifties through the sixties, seven and eighties, and
so there is a robust and abundant aftermarket as well
as used market for those kinds of parts. You'll have
sometimes difficulty finding trim pieces, you know, for an automall
make you know, say it was a one year vehicle

(02:37:13):
where they only had that that that grill for that
one year. I have that issue because my seventy pix
is a unique front end for that for that year.
So yeah, sometimes, you know, these cosmetic parts will be
more difficult to find. But generally, if you pick a
popular vehicle that was made in large numbers from that era,
you're not going to have any difficulty finding the necessary
parts that you have to have in order to keep
the vehicle serviceable and running.

Speaker 10 (02:37:35):
That's interesting, Yeah, because I guess I'd certainly do see
a lot of classic cars right here. Yeah, I guess
if you had an edsul and you got your horse collar.

Speaker 9 (02:37:43):
A grill, you can keep that going. One of the
great examples of Volkswagen Beetle. You know, to this day
you can easily find any part that you need to
keep a Beetle running. So you know, that's a great
choice if you just want a very basic, simple, completely analog,
not non digital, non data mining, non connected car that

(02:38:04):
anybody could service. If they're willing to turn a screw
driver or a wrench and have basic hand tools, that's
a great choice.

Speaker 10 (02:38:10):
Yeah, yeah, I know. There's a huge aftermarket for the Mazas,
especially the first generation of Mazda that's out there. They're
even doing full restorations, or at least were for a
short period of time. I don't know if they are
still doing it now. It's a couple of years ago.
They're doing full factory spec restorations in Japan. They would
do it in Japan, and the factory itself was doing it.

(02:38:32):
Mazda was doing it. I don't know if they're still
doing that or not. Now you got an article and
I'm reaching back now. At the beginning of August, Pontiacs
were cool. I thought they were as well. I was
just so amazed that when they decided they're going to
get rid of an entire make that they kept Buick
and got rid of Pontiac. I thought that was really
strange because Puick was always perceived as kind of an

(02:38:55):
older person's car, or it was a family car something
like that, where as Pontiac's had kind of a sporty
panache to them.

Speaker 9 (02:39:03):
Right, yep, well there's a reason for that. For whatever reason,
Buicks are immensely popular in China, and that's where they're
believe it or not, GM sells a ton of Buicks
in China, where it's considered kind of a status vehicle
to have, and all the pus they sell here are
made in China.

Speaker 2 (02:39:20):
Is that right? Now? We used to use Buick.

Speaker 10 (02:39:22):
We used that as a new finism for throwing up,
someone says in the bathroom selling Buick's.

Speaker 11 (02:39:29):
Now.

Speaker 9 (02:39:29):
What's really sad though, with regard to Pontiac and Pontiac's
just one example of many, is that you had a
once distinctive brand. And in fact, Pontiac actually was literally
a car company at one time. It wasn't a marketing company.
It actually had an engineering staff and they engineered their engines,
which were different than Chevy engines, so when you bought
a Pontiac, you weren't just buying a rebadge Chevy. There

(02:39:50):
may have been commonality of the underlying platform, but it
was a fundamentally different car. I'll again refer to my
own car. A seventy six Pontiac trans Am is a
very different car than a seventy six Camaro. Even though
they share a common underthing, their drive frames are different,
and that makes it worth buying the Pontiac.

Speaker 2 (02:40:07):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:40:07):
It's not not that one's better or worse. It's simply
that it is different. And GM actually allowed Pontiac for
a great deal of time to be sort of the
raucous uh you know, go get them brand. You know
that that had had performance and style and attitude kind
of like what Dodge was before Stilantis ruined everything. Yeah,

(02:40:28):
you know, Uh, they just had this great reputation for
you know, not just crude muscle cars, but cool muscle cars.
It had some panastu them, you know, like Catalinas and
Grand Prixs and of course GTOs and everything, which were
a little bit more refined than say something like a
Chevelle ass which is a great car, but it's it's
not the same thing as a.

Speaker 2 (02:40:46):
Gto right right, yeah, yeah, And they just.

Speaker 9 (02:40:50):
Hollowed all of this out. And this was, by the way,
I think the first wave of casualties from compliance. The
reason that Pontiac ended up dying was because General Motors
was on enormous pressure to try to figure out how
to get these different brands Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile, all their
different divisions that had different engines. Each one of those
engines had to be certified independently by the federal government

(02:41:12):
as being in compliance with the stuff. That costs a
lot of money. So General Members made the decision, well,
what we're going to do is corporatize. We're going to
just put Chevrolet built engines in pretty much everything that
we sell. They did this beginning in the eighties, and
that way they only had to certify the Chevrolet engine,
which they could put in a Pontiac and a Buick

(02:41:32):
in an Oldsmobile, which is what they did. But by
doing that, they just gutted any reason for having a
Pontiac or an Oldsmobile or even a Buick. It's all
you're getting is a Reskin Chevy with the identical drive train.

Speaker 2 (02:41:44):
Oh and over again.

Speaker 10 (02:41:45):
I tell people, you know, the real problem with industry
and manufacturing and innovation in the United States is the government.
They are the biggest obstacle. They are far more destructive
of jobs and manufacturing than any company abroad or any
country abroad. All this stuff about tariffs is a misdirection

(02:42:06):
away from the true source of the problem, which is
government regulation. And even when they're talking about the housing crisis,
some people are talking about how expensive houses have become
because of government regulation. But the government's not talking about
doing anything that. They're talking about playing some financialization games
in terms of interest rates or subsidies or this or that,

(02:42:27):
but they're not going to do anything about the overregulation
and all the green mandates that are there. Trump will
go the UN and you'll say, you're destroying your country
with all this green stuff and everything, but he won't
take those regulations off of cars or homes. So we
can't have nice things anymore.

Speaker 9 (02:42:45):
That's correct. We have become as a culture so habituated
to the government being involved in these things, and really,
I think that's the bone of the matter. Why is
the government involved in car design?

Speaker 2 (02:42:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:42:57):
You know, a good example of this is you know
the whole. I wrote an article about Ralph Nader a
couple of weeks ago and the core of Air and
his allegations about the core of air being unsafe. This
doesn't matter for the courts. If the car is unsafe
and effective in some way that can be handled in
tort claims. That's the way these things ought to be handled,
instead of this broad brush, one size fits all of
the federal government decreem. You know, you will have this

(02:43:19):
particular safety standard, and it doesn't matter what you know,
what side effects that safety standard has, even if it
ends up being less safe. Good example of that being
in the mid seventies they imposed a roof crush standard
on the industry. You know, the vehicle had to be
able to support the weight of the vehicle that it
got turned upside down. So as a result of that,
you got these gigantic A, B and C pillars. Those

(02:43:40):
are the things that support the roof. The A pillars
at the basic shield be in the middle and C
in the back instead of being you know, these these
in and graceful things that you could easily look around
and you had this expansive view of the outside world
around you. Now you're essentially in a tank. You know,
I drive new cars all the time. Feels like you're
in a tank. You have essentially no visibility, often to

(02:44:02):
the right and to the left because of this enormous
B pillar that's there to support the weight of the
vehicle if you roll it over. The problem is now
when you pull out from a side street, you're likely
to get t boned because that thing is created that
blind spot. You didn't see the car that was coming
at you from the side.

Speaker 2 (02:44:18):
That's right, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 10 (02:44:20):
You know, how did we wind up still being able
to keep convertibles with that? I know I've got on
my convertibles.

Speaker 2 (02:44:27):
I got some really huge A pillars on them, but.

Speaker 9 (02:44:29):
Very cleverly, like you know, with regard to some of them.
You know, with Maza in the audi As, you know, they
built a roll bar into the backs of the seats. Basically,
that was one way that they did it, and some
of the manufacturers took that a step farther with pop
up roll bars. You know, Mercedes did that with some
of their highest vertibles, and they also managed to reinforce
the structure of the windshield in a way that made

(02:44:50):
it supportive of the vehicle if it were to roll over.
But you know, it's it's just the point is, the
government's involvement in this stuff is just so insufferably obnoxious.
And to put a finer point on it, you know,
we talk about the government as if it's sort of
this entity out there, and I like to I like
to point out to be what you're really talking about
is a relative handful of micromanaging bureaucrats who are the

(02:45:14):
weavils within these regulatory bodies. You know, go to the
dot or its how many people work there? A few thousand.
So you've got a few thousand people in these regulatory
bodies who are dictating to three hundred and thirty million people,
you know, the design of the cars that they're allowed
to have.

Speaker 10 (02:45:30):
Yeah, exactly right. I just you know, and we have
spinalless politicians who let the bureaucrats rule over us and
never do anything to push back against them.

Speaker 9 (02:45:39):
And that's my design. You know, they've af floaded this.
They'll say Congress in particular, they'll say, well, I can't
do anything about it, because you know, the bureaucracy is
responsible for this, right, You're the ones that offloaded their
responsibility under the constitution to legislate. You know, there's legislation
and there's regulation, and regulation has the force and effect
of law. Yet it's not voted for. Cheans accountability. You know,

(02:46:02):
you can't out you can't vote out of office an
EPA apparature.

Speaker 10 (02:46:06):
You know, they claim that they're not responsible for it,
even though, as you point out, they delegate this to them.
Then you know, something gets really bad and there's a
huge outroar uproar about that, then they can come in
and say, uh, okay, we're going to save you from
these bad.

Speaker 2 (02:46:21):
Guys, the regulator. So it's a very calculated political ploy,
isn't it. And I think we got do We have
a couple of comments of questions for him.

Speaker 3 (02:46:29):
Good to talk to you here got citizen driver Tocaca
says Eric.

Speaker 6 (02:46:34):
Would he'd like you to speak on.

Speaker 3 (02:46:35):
The fact they're trying to pass legislation so you'll be
able to ensure a car that's over twenty five years old,
which is just utterly ridiculous because of course we know
that twenty five years ago all calls cars were death traps.

Speaker 6 (02:46:46):
People were dying left and right.

Speaker 3 (02:46:48):
It's only within the past few years that the cars
have become safe at all and people can drive him
without living in constant fear.

Speaker 2 (02:46:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:46:54):
And on that same line, Eric, California just you know,
they wanted to missions. I think that they had there
and it was like a thirty five year moving average
and they were trying to adjust that a little bit
and they shut it down. It's this huge blow. It's
Jay Leno's law. Maybe you heard about that.

Speaker 9 (02:47:13):
Purely, purely punitive and vindictive. Yeah, Leno I think learned
a valuable lesson. I think, in his innocence might have
believed that rational considerations and reasonable considerations might cause the
California legislature and regulatory apparat to agree that, yeah, you know,
vehicles that are thirty five years old are constitute a
very small minority of the vehicles that are in use

(02:47:36):
as daily transportation, and so yeah, we'll exempt them, as
most states do, from having to go in from emissions testing.
This is purely punitive because they want to push these
cars off the road. And it's particularly egregious in California
because it's not even a matter of whether you pass
the tailpipe sniffer test, you know, when you bring your
car into the inspection station and they put the probe

(02:47:57):
in the tailplay and in most states, if it passes that,
you pass and you get your sticker. In California, doesn't
matter whether you pass the tailpipe sniffer test if any
of the factory original emissions equipment has been tampered with,
altered or removed. Now what that means. You're talking about
the thirty five year old car, or how about a
fifty year old car, and maybe the original smog pump

(02:48:17):
or EGR system had to be replaced because it's a
thirty five year old vehicle. Thirty five year old? Well
what if there is no aftermarket replacement? And more finally,
in California, every aftermarket replacement has to have a California
Air Resources Board number, a certification that it's been approved
by CAR. So if it doesn't have that, even if
everything works, and even if the emissions are with inspect,

(02:48:38):
they will still fail the vehicle on the basis of
failing the visual and not having the CARB approved replacement part.
So this is purely, purely punitive and vindictive. And I
do see this sort of thing expanding. You know, they're
going to start targeting cars and they're going to say
we can't permit vehicles that don't have the latest advanced
driver assistance technology to be on the road, you know,

(02:49:00):
because of the threat that they present and the people
are going to die. That's the sort of thing that
I foresee that they're going to start doing in the
next few years.

Speaker 10 (02:49:06):
Oh yeah, yeah. And it's kind of interesting too because
when I was doing modifications to Mamiada about seven years ago,
the companies I was getting the aftermarket parts on which
were taking those parts that you just mentioned and pitching
them completely. But they were based in California, and I thought,
you know, this is kind of interesting. They can't sell
their own product. Even at that time, many of their

(02:49:29):
things were not CARB compliant and they couldn't sell them
and two people who lived in California only to people
who lived outside of California.

Speaker 2 (02:49:36):
But it's getting much much worse, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:49:39):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:49:39):
Common thread that runs through all of this is that
there's no requirement that tangible harm be produced, in other words,
a victim. A really fine example of this is the
crucification of Volkswagen, and I revisited that issue recently in
a column. It's been about ten years now since Volkswagen
got raked over the coals for cheating on federal emission

(02:50:00):
certification tests. And you know, at the time and even
to this day, I continue to ask, well, who was
hurt by any of this? All the The only thing
that happened was that the government was affronted. You know, Volkswagen,
like every other vehicle manufacturer, programmed its vehicles to pass
the test. That's the whole point. They made it so
they would pass that. And not only this is an
important point, not just the federal emission certification test. Nobody

(02:50:23):
ever disputed these vehicles when they were bought and put
into service and in states where people had to go
to get emissions testing, you know, at the state level,
and get the tailpipe probe put in, they all passed.
The only kerfluffle happened after this independent lab subjected the
cars to an entirely different test that found that, under
certain operating conditions, oh my gosh, the vehicle will emit

(02:50:45):
slightly higher, fractionally higher amounts of oxides of nitrogen, which
is a regulated emission for EPA. And the amount was minuscule.
It was literally a fraction of a fraction, in other words,
something that was meaningless in terms of whether it was
hurting anybody, it didn't matter.

Speaker 10 (02:51:01):
It was so draconian. You and I talked about this
many times. It was so draconian that it was clear
that it wasn't about what they said it was about.
It was really about, as we said, getting rid of diesel.
I mean, they had criminal charges against executives. It was
something like four billion dollars if I remember correctly. It
was outrageous what they were doing. And we talked about that,
how you didn't see anything at all like that with

(02:51:23):
the Takata airbags that were blowing up spontaneously and killing people,
or with the pinto you know, and the deliberate exclusion
of some devices that would keep that explosion from happening.
So it was something that we've never seen before. Even
when human lives were at staken, there was nobody that
was harmed by any of this stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:51:44):
Well, the reason why they did it, though, it wasn't
just that it was diesel. It was that Volkswagen uniquely
was selling a lineup of very affordable diesels as some
as twenty fifteen. You know, it's ten years ago. Not
even you could have bought a brand new Volkswagen jetto
with a TDI engine for about twenty two thousand dollars.
Now that whole car had a seven hundred mile driving

(02:52:05):
range and would get fifty plus miles per gallon on
the highway and could probably be counted on to go
for three hundred thousand miles or more. Now, it's a
curious coincidence, isn't it that around the same time the
Volkswagen started getting raped over the coals over this emissions
cheating thing. That's when the big push for evs began
right around that time, around twenty thirteen. And I think

(02:52:27):
the reason that they went after Volkswagen was because they
could not abide the comparison. You know, on the one hand,
twenty two thousand dollars Jetta TDI seven hundred mile range,
refill it in three minutes, keep it for twenty years,
drive it for three hundred thousand miles. On the other hand,
Tesla Model three, fifty thousand dollars car that goes maybe
two hundred and seventy miles and is going to need
a new fifteen thousand dollars battery after eight years, it

(02:52:49):
just would have been a harder sell. So they had
to go after Volkswagen. I think, you know, if Volkswagen
had continued making engines like that, other manufacturers would have
started to do the same. In fact, Chevy did. Chevy Lady,
you could get a Malibu diesel for a little while there,
and other manufacturers would have done it because it's appealing.
I mean, I like the idea of a brand new
twenty two thousand dollars car that gets fifty something miles

(02:53:10):
per galland seven hundred miles. You know, diesel is great.
You know, it's a wonderful option for people who want
a durable, long legged, long lived vehicle. So naturally they
had to take that away from us.

Speaker 10 (02:53:21):
Yeah, checked all the boxes in terms of competition with
the electric vehicles. As you point out, is that durability, reliability, affordability, range,
It was all there.

Speaker 2 (02:53:31):
So I had to go, It really had to go.

Speaker 10 (02:53:33):
They've got an agenda and they don't want you to
have something that you can afford. They don't want you
to have a long range because they want to keep
you on a short rope with they're smart city and
they're probably geo fencing to make sure that you can't
buy anything outside of your approved city and that type
of thing.

Speaker 9 (02:53:51):
It's just amazing, really it's a really important thing for
people to understand, and it's a difficult thing to understand
because the undercurrent of malevolence that's there is difficult for
people to come to grips with. But it's almost axiomatic.
But you cannot have an authoritarian system in which people
are still free to move about as they like on
their own initiative, in their own vehicle, unsupervised, unmonitored, and uncontrolled.

(02:54:15):
In order for them to impose a truly authoritarian system
on Americans, they have got to get control over transportation
and particularly personal transportation. And when you filter everything that's
going on through that, everything becomes comprehensible.

Speaker 2 (02:54:29):
That's right. I tell people all the time. The TSA
is a transportation security agency, right, it's not the airport
security agency. And they want to do that.

Speaker 10 (02:54:39):
They want to eliminate the private vehicles so that everything
becomes like the airport. If you like that, certainly you'll
be able to keep that authoritarian government. If you like
your authoritarian government, you can keep it, or they'll keep
it for you.

Speaker 3 (02:54:54):
With something like geofencing and the tesla's they can just
simply section you off, say oh no, you're car, just
simply will not go there. You turning that way. No,
we're going to autopilot you back into your safe zone.

Speaker 6 (02:55:06):
We're not allowed over here. You're not allowed to go
this far.

Speaker 10 (02:55:08):
And anyone have enough range really to get out of
there anyway. You know, it's fifteen minute city.

Speaker 9 (02:55:12):
That's about how creepy it is. And it's incredible, al Blase.
So many Americans are they think even if they're aware
of it, they will say, oh, well, that would never happen.
They would never do that to us.

Speaker 10 (02:55:23):
Yeah, you know, Eric, about ten years ago, I went
to an auto show in Texas to start around up.

Speaker 2 (02:55:29):
Yeah, a long Star round Up.

Speaker 10 (02:55:30):
It's a real big classic show, and I think it's
got to be an America made car, and it's got
to be They don't include the it's got to be older.

Speaker 2 (02:55:43):
Than the Mustang's older than sixty four.

Speaker 10 (02:55:45):
Sixty five is a cutoff, right, So they didn't want
to take it at that point.

Speaker 2 (02:55:50):
But there's a lot of modification to.

Speaker 10 (02:55:52):
Them, and a lot of rat rods that are out there,
you know, really grungy cars that people have kept going
and modified. I want to and I talked to all
these people and they were all different ages. You know,
people had cars they were seventeen or eighteen years old
that they had fixed up up to people who retirees,
and I asked them, all, do you think the government
is going to make private cars go away and gasoline

(02:56:14):
cars go away?

Speaker 2 (02:56:15):
Oh? Yeah, they all said.

Speaker 10 (02:56:16):
And to a man, they pretty much all said, including
like seventeen eight year olds, it will never happen in
my lifetime. It's like, man, the disconnect that was there
at that time was just that was the most You know,
the cars are interesting, but the most interesting thing was
how these people had lied to themselves about the government's
intentions and its abilities to rob them of their mobility.

(02:56:40):
It truly is amazing.

Speaker 9 (02:56:42):
The intentions were always there. I think the technology has
made it much more feasible to fast track things. They
wouldn't have been able to do what they had wanted
to do for fifty years, you know, back in the
eighties and nineties, or even the early two thousands, But now,
particularly within the last ten years, they have now the
ability to utterly and completely control vehicles to a degree

(02:57:05):
that most people would not believe until they have to
deal with it.

Speaker 2 (02:57:08):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:57:09):
I give various examples. One is the illusion that you
have in a modern car that you're controlling how fast
you drive.

Speaker 7 (02:57:15):
You're not.

Speaker 9 (02:57:16):
When you push down on the accelerator pedal, all you're
doing is feeding data to the computer. You're not connected
to the engine, to a cable system and a throttle
any longer. You're sending data to a computer, and the
computer then is telling the engine, okay, increase the RPMs
or to a certain amount to give you the illusion
that you're the one who's controlling the car. I had

(02:57:36):
a Ford expedition a couple of weeks ago, and I
was this is a big vehicle, big SUV, and I'm
trying to back the thing up in my driveway. Now
I've lived where I lived for twenty years. I know
my driveway. There's a big bush at the one side
of my driveway, and I know, because again I've been
doing it for twenty years, exactly how far I can
back up before I hit that bush. But the forward

(02:57:57):
slams on the brakes a couple of feet or I
get anywhere near the bush. Because again safety but you know,
read dig down and to think about what that means.
The vehicle can decide that it's going to stop. Yeah,
you know, ray your will. It's going to exercise control.
And bit by bit they're doing this. I had an
article look the other day about this speed limit assistance technology.

(02:58:18):
I love how they call it assistance technology, Like you
didn't know you were driving faster than the speed limit,
and now the car is well, oh, thank you so much,
car for telling me that I'm driving faster than the
speed limit. And you know, first they try to shame you.
There's a little icon that pops up in the dashboard
that shows us a speed limit sign and it goes red.
You know you're driving faster than the speed limit. And
sometimes there's a chime that companies it. And this is

(02:58:39):
weirdly standard now on all the vehicles. Why is that.
You know, it's not optional for people who need assistance.
If I need assistance, oh I love that, I'll buy
some assistance. No, they're making it standard because what they're
doing is in classic Fabian socialist style, slowly, bit by bit,
you know, getting people used to this stuff, and the
next step will be not just assisting you to know

(02:59:00):
that you're driving faster than the speed limit, it will
be preventing you from driving any faster than the speed
limit by using the drive by wire throttle by using
the electrically controlled braking system to prevent you from doing it.
And what they're doing with that is making driving such
a it's no longer fun. You feel like you're guarented.
You feel like you're a kindergartener again. And that's deliberately.

(02:59:22):
They want you to just say, you know, the heck
with it?

Speaker 2 (02:59:24):
Why am I?

Speaker 9 (02:59:24):
Why am I signing up for a seven hundred dollars
a month loan for the next six years. I don't
even control the car. The car nags me and pesters
me all the time, it tells me what to do.
The heck with it. I'm just going to get my
app on my phone and I'll tap it and I'll
get my ride.

Speaker 2 (02:59:38):
That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:59:39):
The comedian and British comedian Ron Atkinson who plays mister
Bean Okay, he was an engineer before he became a comedian,
and he's got a lot he loves cars, and he's
got a lot of very expensive hypercars. And he said, well,
you don't really drive these so much as you manage them.
There's so much drive by wire stuff in it. And

(03:00:00):
I remember when Michael Hastings was killed and I think
he was killed. I don't think it was an accident,
and he was. He had rented a late model Mercedes
when that happened, and he was he thought that people
were after him with the government because of what he
was reporting on, and he'd had a lot of death
threats from the government, and so he went out to

(03:00:21):
his car. His landlady said he would go out to
the car and he'd look underneath it and all this
other kind of stuff to see if there was some
kind of a bomb on it. But they you know,
when you have the when the computer is able to
control your acceleration, you're breaking, you're steering, and all these
other things, it's very, very easy to assassinate somebody that way.
And they have illustrated over and over again at the

(03:00:44):
black Hat conference in Vegas how easy it is to
hack one of these cars as well, because they're also online,
so everything is under computer control, and it's also online,
so any bad actor, especially the government, can jump into
this thing and do whatever they wish. They can shut
you down, or if they want to, they can try
to make it look like.

Speaker 2 (03:01:03):
It was an accident. This is the type of thing
we've been seeing for a long time. Yeah, you had
your article.

Speaker 10 (03:01:09):
When you're talking about the insurance, when will people decide
to stop paying? And you talk about the fact that
you've got an antique car, you drive it three hundred
miles a year and stay within about a ten mile
radius of your home in rural Virginia, and why should
you have to pay insurance for that? That should be
your decision for that. But of course it is this

(03:01:30):
corporate government fascism that we see over and over again
where they force you to buy their product, isn't.

Speaker 9 (03:01:36):
It It is? And now they are using insurance to
price people out of vehicle ownership.

Speaker 2 (03:01:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (03:01:42):
Everybody you probably had this happen to you as well,
has had their premium increase by on average twenty five
to thirty percent, and in some cases fifty percent or
more for absolutely no reason having to do with anything
they did in terms of having an accident, filing a
claim anything, or even a speeding ticket. You get the
notice in the mail and all of a sudden, your
premium is, you know, double what it was the year prior.

(03:02:04):
Why because they can, you know, because they don't have
an option to say no. Imagine what a cup of
coffee would cost if the government said you have to
go to Starbucks. You can by a cup of Starbucks
coffee at least once a week. You know, we'd be
paying ten dollars for a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (03:02:19):
That's exactly where we are.

Speaker 9 (03:02:21):
That's essentially where we are with this. And I think,
you know, we are getting to a point. You know,
I have my ear to the ground about things like this,
and it's also my own personal opinion that everybody's feeling
pinched because of the cost of everything.

Speaker 10 (03:02:32):
Everything that's going up, and they don't include it and
the evaluation of inflation either, do they this?

Speaker 9 (03:02:37):
And so you know, when it comes down to a
choice between you know, obeying the law and handing a
check over to these insurance mobsters for a large sum
of money that could be used to pay your electric bill,
or you know, for your family, what's the choice. Well,
you know, probably a lot of people are going to say,
you know what, I'm going to buy food for my
family instead of sending this check to All State or Geicoe.

Speaker 2 (03:02:57):
Yeah, and so what.

Speaker 9 (03:02:59):
You know, I mean that the illegal aliens can with
impunity because they you know, they can't. They can't get
blood out of a stone can they know they don't
have any access disease. So and I'm not I'm really
I'm not. I'm not disparaging people who are in that
category because I understand people are trying to improve their
lives and all of that. Just trying to make the
point that there are no consequences for those people. Know,

(03:03:20):
if they want to go out and drive without insurance
and hit you and wreck you, they'll walk away from
it and the state will do nothing about it. But
you and I we don't hit anybody, you know, we
haven't caused any problems for anybody. But we didn't hand
over the money to the mobsters. They'll cancel your driver's license,
they'll cancel your registration, and if they catch you driving,
they'll you know, impound your vehicle and potentially arrest you

(03:03:40):
for it.

Speaker 2 (03:03:40):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's the
way it works.

Speaker 10 (03:03:44):
It's a two tier standard already in many different areas
that we've got in this country. Well, well at a time,
is always great having you on, Eric. Anything you want
to tell us about what's happening with your website.

Speaker 9 (03:03:54):
Oh, well, nothing more than what's on there.

Speaker 6 (03:03:57):
You know.

Speaker 9 (03:03:57):
I posted an article this morning. It's more of a
thought piece about how we're all kind of in this
bad marriage situation in this country.

Speaker 10 (03:04:04):
You know, Yeah, Trump's is the guy who has bad marriages.
He specializes in that, doesn't he.

Speaker 9 (03:04:09):
Well, isn't it interesting that for the most part, most
people will say, okay, you know, if you have a
situation where a couple just can't work it out, they're
at odds. You know, nobody would say, well, they have
to stay married and be miserable for the rest of
their lives. People accept that sometimes marriages don't work and
you know, there's a divorce. It's not a happy thing,
but it's better than forcing people who can't live together

(03:04:30):
to live together. Well, politically, somehow that seems to be
off the table. Why is that? You know, we're at
a point in this country with the left, right and
just people who want to be left alone chiefly versus
those won't leave people alone. Why can't we just figure
out a way to peacefully separate ourselves and that way
end this fractiousness, you know, and and just instead of
going to blows with each other, and that includes blows

(03:04:50):
at the ballot box and trying to constantly figure out
a way to elect our guy to impose our will
on the other side, how about we just figure out
a way to go our own way and live and
let live. The problem is that probably half the country
doesn't want to live and let live.

Speaker 10 (03:05:04):
Yeah, I've talked about that. You know, if you look
at the Scandinavian countries, they have split apart and joined
together in various combinations many times, and you know they
would peacefully join together, peacefully break apart, and there was never.

Speaker 2 (03:05:17):
A war over it. We don't have a government like that.

Speaker 10 (03:05:19):
You know. When Marjorie Taylor Green started talking about having
a national divorce, I said, yeah, the problem is is
that we're married to an abusive spouse who once he
finds out that we want to divorce him, he's going
to come kill us.

Speaker 2 (03:05:31):
You know.

Speaker 9 (03:05:32):
Ye that I recurrently use because I think it's very
pithy and it says it all. And it's a picture
of Abraham Lincoln and the caption reads, if you try
to leave me, I'll kill you.

Speaker 10 (03:05:42):
That's right, you know, the ultimate abuse of the household.
That's exactly the case, especially in a country that was
formed over the right of secession and self government. That
was the basis of America's existence from the very beginning.
How could you deny that to somebody. I'm always all
about secession, and I would say, if at first you

(03:06:04):
don't seceed, try try again.

Speaker 2 (03:06:07):
Maybe my model for everybot it's.

Speaker 9 (03:06:08):
A safety valve, and everybody on board with that.

Speaker 10 (03:06:11):
And of course there is one other thing we can do.
And people at Tenth Amendment Talked Center have talked about
this a lot. There is another avenue of this, and
that is nullification. That is kind of the middle point.
We say, well, we're just going tonore what you have
to say. So there is nullification and non commandeering and
short of and that effectively can allow you to secede

(03:06:35):
issue by issue if you've got people at the state
level who have the backbone to do that type of thing,
and that's the big if we don't because they're all
on the take. I don't think that we're going to
get this country back until we have a catastrophic economic
system that's going to destroy the ability of our government
with US dollars or reserve currency to just print money
out of thin air. Until that disappears, we're going to

(03:06:58):
have the same type of situation.

Speaker 9 (03:07:00):
We do have one power under our control, and it
is to simply not participate, to opt out on our own.
You know. With regard to new cars, if you don't
want to be data mined and controlled, well, don't buy
a new car. You know, keep the older car that
you have, Get an older car, fix it up. You know,
during the pandemic, don't wear a mask, don't go along,
don't comply. If enough of us as individuals, you don't

(03:07:21):
have to join an organization, just abide. It's in your
own moral compass. And you know, if this is wrong,
I don't like this, I'm not going along with it.
That's it. I'm just taking my stand. I'm not going
to be a cattle and go along moving with the
herd just because that's what the herd does.

Speaker 10 (03:07:39):
Yeah, I'd been thrown out of so many different places
and restaurants in Texas. I had to move to Tennessee
because I promised these people I would never be back
because of the way.

Speaker 2 (03:07:47):
That they insisted that I wear a mask. And I left.

Speaker 10 (03:07:50):
Then I said, and I won't be back, and I
kept my word by moving to State. That's the only
way I could do it. It's always great to have
you on Eric, Eric petersautos dot com. Folks, I had
great sight for liberty and mobility and a little bit
of nostalgia now as well, because that's how the only
way we're going to be able to keep our mobility
is with classic cars. Thank you, Eric, always great to

(03:08:14):
talk to you.

Speaker 3 (03:08:14):
Thank you, Travis, Thank you Eric, always a pleasure speaking
to you. And before we go, ACS A B. Thank
you so much for that. We really do appreciate it.
Says so awesome DK and family. Thanks for everything. I
wish I could do so much more.

Speaker 2 (03:08:26):
Well, Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (03:08:28):
A C.

Speaker 2 (03:08:28):
S A B. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:08:29):
It really is because of your support that we're able
to continue to do this and we really cannot thank
you enough. Thank you very much, folks, Thank you all
very much. God lest you all have a wonderful rest
of your day.

Speaker 10 (03:08:38):
Yes, the common man, they created common Core, dumbed down
our children. They created common past, track and control us.

(03:08:58):
They're Commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing
and the communist future. They see the common man as simple,
unsophisticated ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity
created in the image of God. That is what we
have in common. That is what they want to take away.

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to know everything about us, while they hide everything from us.
It's time to turn that around and expose what they
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