Episode 378: Dick Cheney

In this episode of The Fact Hunter, we unravel the life and legacy of Dick Cheney, one of the most influential and controversial figures in modern American history. From his early political rise and five draft deferments to his corporate reign at Halliburton, his role in the Project for a New American Century, and the wars that followed 9/11, Cheney’s story reveals how power, profit, and deception merged to create a new kind of empire. We trace his connections to KBR, the Council on Foreign Relations, and JINSA, exposing how ideology and corporate interests turned conflict into commerce. This episode challenges listeners to see beyond politics—to recognize the spiritual cost of unchecked power and to ask: what happens to a nation when it exalts war over truth?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
You're listening to the fact Hunter Radio Network. Here is
your host, George Hobbs.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
for another edition of the fact Hunter podcast as we
record on this Tuesday afternoon, November fourth, twenty twenty five.
Hope everybody had a great weekend and your week is,
you know, going well. Obviously, there are lots of things
in the world going on, the election in New York City,

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et cetera, where it's again evil versus the lesser evil.
You have a COVID tearness versus a full out Marxist.
You know, people need to start realizing that there has
to be an option see in these situations. But we'll
get to that. I'd originally planned to do a deep
tive into the Vatican Vatican City. It's finance ties. How

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Rome never really fell. It just kind of repackaged itself
and the Jesuit Order. It was a very deep, ninety minute,
two hour podcast. And I woke up this morning to
the news that Dick Cheney had died. And for anybody
who was in the military from the nineties and two thousands,

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he you could say directly or indirectly affected their lives.
So you know, I felt this should be moved up
in the order of precedence. Well, the other podcast is
ready to go. If I'm able to finish this today,
we'll bring that on Thursday. If not, we'll be a
two parter. We'll finish Thursday, and then I can just

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tell you over the next two weeks, I will drop
podcasts when I can. Between my you know, dentist appointments
next weeks and my daughter getting married the following weekend,
we have family coming into town. I can't promise, you know,
exactly Tuesday night at eight pm we're going to get
these podcasts out, but I promise, if I have some
down time, we'll get something out to you before we

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get started today. There was the Republican Jewish Coalition this
past weekend, and you know, we were told you're not
MAGA unless you put Israel first, and this, that and
the other thing. And for the longtime listeners, you know,
I say that you're either in Christ or or anti Christ.

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There is no in between, and they want to confuse you.
The geopolitical you know, state of Israel is somehow connected
to a new Testament. One thing you'll notice is they
always refer to Old Testament scripture. Someone who gets under
my crawl more than most is this Mark Levin guy.

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I think if you call yourself the great One, I
think that's when I check out. I won't listen to
any more of you. And this is what he had
to say on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
And I just want the anti American, anti Israel, anti
West crowd to understand something. You're gonna have to come
through me and millions of people just like me, and
you're not gonna make it. You think your stupid little

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podcast or your stupid little subscription program, or your little
TV show or maybe you have a little radio show
is going to change the world, Like hell, it is
not if I and everybody else have something to say
about it.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
So you know, I have a little podcast. I've had
it for five or six years now, and I simply
speak the truth. And I see someone, I've seen a
group of people who through several generations. Right, I'm not
going to point out a certain generation or any to
be fair, we have the technology we have today that
they didn't have in the thirties, forties and fifties, and

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I'm not here to offer excuses either, right, But when
you're only available histories through books that were controlled it,
you know, I can see from that and unless you're
really truly understanding the Bible. And that's why I tell
people it's so important for you to read the Bible,

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not to listen to other people talk about the Bible.
Pick up the New Testament to read it right, to
read the Book of Hebrews, the Book of Romans nine specifically, right.
And when you hear Paul talk about lamenting wishes he
could switch places with his fellow Jewish brothers and sisters

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who had turned their back on Christ because he knew
that they were doomed. This isn't coming out that they
pull the anti semit card. I have always said, I'm
not coming from a place of hate, right, And they
say pray for Israel. I pray for them that they
fall on their knees and accept Christ. You know, in

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my little podcast, right, they tell you, on one side
you have freedom of speech, and on the other side
they laugh at you and they mock you, just like
Mark Levin did right there, right, And that's exactly what
he did. I actually had another clip, but I think
it's the same one. Let me see. I had Lindsey Graham,

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who's just as creepy. Let me see if I can
find him. Well, here is former police officer. I'm not
familiar with this fella. I'm sure some of you are.
His names Brandom Tatum and he's calling for Gaza to
be turned into a parking lot. And I had a
fellow pastor say this to me, and it really disenfranchised me.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Listen to this, y'all keep praying for me. I said,
I want them to turn that place into a parking lot.
I gotta preface it because somebody gonna clip this and
put on the internet. Not because of the Palestinian people,
per se individual people, but because if you dare to

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do such an atrocity to people that I love, people
that I respect, people that are chosen by God. You
decide to do something like that, you should never have
an opportunity to do it again. And it should be
an example to everybody in the world that if you

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ever think about trying something like this, your country will
cease to exist. Boy, if I was the prime minister, ooh,
forty eight hours, give me forty eight hours. And so

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it enraged me. And then I said my statement. I
thought that most people in America were thinkers and had
common sense. Well, shockingly enough, I was wrong, because after
I said it, we see all this anti Semitism popping up.
We see mindless people on campus wasting hundreds of thousands

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of dollars, getting no real education, and they are right
here talking about from the river to the sea and
don't even know which river it is. You got people
out here saying death to Jewish people and games for Palestine.
I talked, I said, I swear I'll pay for your ticket.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
So again, here's another guy who on Twitter, he talks
about he is the man of God and he calls
for a country to be turned into a parking lot. Again,
these people are not doctrinally sound, and you know, I'd
like to believe that they're just confused and they don't
understand the Bible. But I've I've been told how much

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that these gentlemen were paid to come to speak at
the Republican Jewish Coalition, And I think the smallest paycheck
I heard was twenty five thousand dollars, and that was
the smallest. Right now, Israel is paying social media influencers
seven thousand dollars per tweet that is pro Israel, and

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there's some big names. I'm not going to get into
it right now, but again, this is propaganda with a
capital P. And just because you don't stand with Israel
doesn't mean you're anti Semitic or you are pro Islam.
It just means those people control our government. They were

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behind nine to eleven, they were behind the USS liberty,
they were behind the jfk assassination. The Rothchilds were behind them,
and they are not the biblical Israel. John fourteen six
explains everything in detail. It's very frustrating to see people

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who claim, you know, they're biblical scholars, to just spew
these lies to New York City. The good people of
New York City have the choice today between a guy
named zo Ron Mamdani and Andrew Cuomo, one gentleman who
is a democratic socialist whose mother, by the way, there's

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always a connection. Mom is very much in the club.
If you take the time. Her name is Mira Naire
and her husband's name was Mitch Epstein. You cannot make
this stuff up. Take the time to research it. And
this guy is a full blown socialist. He wants universal

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basic income. If you don't stand with him, you're a fascist.
He is very very He considers himself to be a
hair an air, sorry, not a hair an air to
the policies of FDR. And we have spoken about FDR

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and nauseum on this podcast. So listen to how this
guy wants to be. You know, if you think we
have a welfare government, now, he wants fair free city
buses so anybody can hop on the bus. And you know,

(10:35):
if you're struggling, the word free sounds great, but there's
no such thing as free. Somebody is paying for it.
It's coming from somewhere. Right, public childcare. Right. Nothing says
high quality care for your child like public childcare, city
owned grocery stores. This is Karl Marx's dream, a rent freeze,

(10:59):
which man, And I'll tell you, I am so glad.
I just told my mom this morning. I am so
glad I got out of the rent game. We had
owned one house that we were unting out, right, Yeah,
we sold the other we never rented it. But the
house we had in Colorado for many, many years, we

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rented out and it was just one thing after another.
And now to have your house in a Marxist city
like this, thirty dollars minimum wage in five years and
the connection. I'm this is not a podcast about this guy,

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but just in looking very briefly, he is Obama on
crack and then your other selections. Cuomo, he was a
COVID tyrannist who was never held accountable and all the
allegations against him. And of course, over ten years ago
he signed the New York Safe Act of twenty thirteen,

(12:02):
which brought upon the strictest gun control in the United States.
He delivered Medicaid expansion. And you know that I have
no love for the government being involved in anything that
is healthcare, education, right, or helping out the folks. Right.

(12:28):
It's not anytime the government touches something, it screws it up.
You don't want the government involved with that. Right with
snap right now, that's got to be done locally. Man,
what a wreck, really, New York. But you know what

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they say, The Bible says the love of money is
the root of all evil. And I can't think of
any other city in the world that has a love
for money like the city of New York does. So
they say, you've reap what you saw. And I'm not
saying that there are good people in New York City.
That's far from the truth. We have listeners there, just
like in California. We have tons of listeners there. But

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it is really coming to the point where you're going
to have to think outside the box because you are
hours away from being ruled by a tyrant or a
full blown Marxist because apparently the Republican has no shot.
So we'll keep an eye on that, and we'll address
this again on Thursday. And I want to say that

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this podcast again, I just pulled some notes from podcasts
we did before and did a little bit of research.
I was in lectures all day, so this is not
all encompassing, So please don't email me and say you
didn't mention this or that this was done today kind
of on the fly and with some personal reflection as well,

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which I think anybody who was affected by nine to eleven,
which is everyone, right, anyone who was in the military certainly,
and all of us over there who saw KBR with
the egregious contracts that they had, it's something Richard Bruce Cheney,

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so you know, to the public, to the normies, as
we say, he was just a quiet vice president standing
behind George Bush. But the truth is we all know
that he was the one who ran the presidency very
similar to nineteen eighty through eighty eight. Ronald Reagan was

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the puppet head and Bush, you know, Bush ran everything
for a long time. He ran Clinton. You know. But
if you take the time to do just a little
bit of research and you understand, you know, war profit deception.

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He was the engineer. He was the man who built
modern American war state, right what we were warned of,
you know, seventy years ago he brought to light the
military industrial complex. And today his death it marks more
than the end of just a politician's life, right, a
little entry in Wikipedia, But to me, it closes the

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chapter on a man whose fingerprints are pressed into the
you know, almost every conflict for the last forty five years,
whether it's oil deals, surveillance, the tribunals that followed nine
to eleven. You know, I want to take a few
moments today. I want to examine Dick Cheney and this

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man whose life was driven by greed and it was
cloaked as patriotism. And I've said many times that you
have to be careful with that word, because patriotism can
lower the veil over your eyes and keep you from
seeing what's really going on. Right from the news outlets

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in the Wikipedia pages. You know, we're told that he
was a master of foreign policy, but he was anything
but he was. You know, we'll connect the dots from
Dresser Industries to Halliburton. He was on the CFR, the

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American Enterprise Institute. He was what was at the Jewish
Institute for National Security of America, which you know the
number one contractor is in Israel. If you pull the
nine ninety, we'll talk about Nayira al Sabah, right, the lie,
how they sold the golf for how his company KBR

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cashed in billions upon billions, and the Patriot Act, and
on and on and on. By the way, he was
a Vietnam darger with other priorities. Meanwhile, he sent countless
young Americans to die on foreign soil. Like so many

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other politicians, Chinese empire was built on deception, and his
power really rested on on a spot that few people
dared to confront him. Very few people in DC had
the you know what, the cajoles to confront him. And

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to him, war was business, and that is to a
lot of people, whether you're honeywell Rockwell and he went
in the military industrial complex. Right, So we'll do a
real quick back ground. He grew up in Casper, Wyoming,
a beautiful part of the country, right on the front.

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Like most politicians, he was spoken, he was polite, but
he was very calculating. Cheney's early years told the story
of a man who wanted power but not responsibility. So
he attended Yale on scholarship. But he flunked out not
once but twice, which is interesting because you think he'd

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stick it out and become scrolling key or skull and bones,
but he didn't make it. It's interesting that the future most
powerful vice president in American history, that's what many people
call him, couldn't handle the classroom. Between nineteen sixty two
and nineteen sixty six, he was arrested not once but

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twice for dwy one of the many incidents that revealed
a pattern of entitled like the Kennedy's right without consequence.
He was a man who learned early that connections could
erase mistakes, and when his generation, when his peers were
called to Vietnam, he famously said, I had other priorities

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in the sixties than military service. He had not one
not two, not three, not four, but five drafted deferments
that kept him from the jungles of Southeast Asia. Yet
he would later in life send young men by the
thousands into harm's way. You know, it's the irony that

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we come to expect out of Washington, d C. Right,
another armchair general who never wore the uniform. And I
always say, men in suits have been killing men in
uniforms for millennia. After graduate studies at the University of Wyoming,
Cheney's police assent began under Donald Rumsfeld, who would have

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guessed it. And that was during the Nixon and Ford
administrations of the mid seventies, and Rumsfeld became mentor Chaney
was the apprentice, and together they helped pioneer the art
of the bureaucratic coup. So Chaney learned the power of
information control, mastering how to move unseen through the levers

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of federal power. So here we are the mid seventies.
It's nineteen seventy five, thirty four years old. Cheney becomes
the White House Chief of Staff for Gerald Ford. He
was one of the youngest to ever hold that position.
While doing that, he learned that real authority wasn't found

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in elections or speeches, but in procedure, in access, and
in who you know. He developed the technocrats creed you
know what that is, manipulate the system without appearing in
the headlines. Now, how many people have we done podcasts

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on over the last almost six years who fit that description.
Over the next decade, he honed his influence as a
congressman from Wyoming for ten years from seventy nine to
eighty nine. That's where he weaseled his way into intelligence
and defense committees, and Cheney built a reputation as being

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a hawk. Right he was opposing sanctions to apartheid South Africa,
dismissing war crimes, accountability in Latin America. Of course he
would do that later in life as well. And then,
of course in eighty nine, George H. W. Bush Poppy

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tapped him to become Secretary of Defense in eighty nine.
So now Cheney hid made his way into the command
room for real. He was in there physically, he was
running things. But the timing was really ironic because the
Cold War was ending, but Cheney would make sure that

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the war machine would keep running. So one operation we
probably have never talked about on this podcast, maybe I've
mentioned it on the radio show before, but he oversaw
Operation Just Cause in Panama, and then of course we
know about Desert Storm in Iraq. But what these did

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was they set precedents for future interventions built on partial
truths and media management. Right. They did that to a
certain extent in Korea and Vietnam. But they learned how
to take the media and manipulate our emotions just enough

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to get us to send our loved ones off to
these wars. So by the nineteen nineties, Cheney's not just
a public servant now he is a war technocrat. He
understood that conflict could be engineered, it could be managed,
and it could be monetized. And he didn't want any

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medals or applause. He was happy doing this from the
back rooms, pulling the levers because as long as that
cash was coming in, he didn't care. But you have
to remember that scripture warns us of men like this.
Psalm's fifty eighty three says the wicked are estranged from
the womb. They go astray as soon as they are born,

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speaking lives, And many of these, you know, federal politicians
we see today very much in line with that scripture.
You know, here's a guy who flunked out of Yale,
made his way to the head of the Pentagon, and
it was all calculated. He was no soldier, He wasn't

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a statesman. He certainly was not a patriot in the
classical sense right as people look upon say Washington and
the folks who actually fought. He was a manager of
an empire. He learned how to take bureaucracy and make

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it into a weapon. So I'll talk briefly about Just Cause,
because I think it deserves a mention. I don't think
we've ever done a deep dive on it. So it's
the winner of eighty nine. I think he'd been on
the job as the second Deaf for five months or
so when he got a chance to test his playbook,
and that was Operation just Cause. That was the US

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invasion of Panama. I think. Wasn't that shoegate? Or am
I thinking of something else? The first Lady of Panama
had like that, thousands of shoes. That was the propaganda
they were pushing. Pardon me, but again, this is another
one of those things they told the public. It's a

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noble mission to capture a crazy dictator and restore democracy.
And you'll hear that over and over and over the
following thirty years. But what that was, it was really
a test run for this corporate military machine that Chenney
would perfect in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now, the official story

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claimed that Manuel Noriega, and again I'm not saying he
was an angel. I'm not a Panamanian historian. We actually
have a few listeners there that'll probably read me up.
But here's the thing. He was a CIA asset. Of course,
that's what we do. Hussein was a CIA asset, right.

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Of course, Osama bin Laden he was a CIA asset,
you know, Colonel Tim Osman, right, And that's what they
do when they're done with you, they sell you out.
I mean they throw you out the window going seventy
five miles an hour. They used him to traffic drugs.
You know, they said he was threatening US citizens and

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defying Washington. But what they didn't tell you in the
news was that Noriega had served US intelligence loyalty for many,
many years. And again, they tolerate these people's corruption. And
again I say that because everybody in DC is corrupted,
but they, being the bigger hand in the fight, will

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tolerate corruption. As long as they play ball. Right, when
he stepped out of line, you had Cheney and hw
Bush right, and both of these guys, big time intelligence guys. Right,
they flipped the script, just like they did with Saddam.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Oh, sure, Saddam. They're slant trilling. Hey, what happens between
you and Kuwait? That's between you, Tu. We're over here,
you know, we're focused on the economy, and you know,
and then what happens August second happens and George Bush
stands in front of the world and says, how evil
he is. You know, some of us forget how big

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Panama was. In eighty nine, nearly twenty seven thousand American
troops stormed Panama the Christmas of eighty nine. The operation
flattened working class neighborhoods like El Charillo. And depending on
the reports, the low side is five hundred. I've seen

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numbers as high as three or four thousand. Again, that's
up to you to do the research and what for
you to decide who you believe. Of course, the US
government called the invasion surgical. Now, if you ask the
Panamanian Red Cross, they will tell you it was a massacre. Cheney, however,
called it success. Now at this point, you know, rolling

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into nineteen ninety, the media is controlled, The mocking mirrored
media is in place. They followed the Pentagon's narrative. Reporters
were very restricted. American viewers saw the war as clean
as precise, a dictator toppled, democracy restored, and freedom triumphant.

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What most people didn't see were the charred remains of
apartment blocks, the mass graves that were hurriedly dug outside
Panama City, and Cheney and company learned the lesson, Well,
if you control the story, if you control the narrative,
you are able to control the conscious of a nation.

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But like everything else, operations just caused wasn't only about
regime change. It was about infrastructure, and it was about contracts.
And let me tell you, folks, Cheney was all about
the contracts. If you're in the private world, then you
can lock up billion dollar contracts with the government. That's
what he was all about. And how nobody called bs

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on KBR during these wars is beyond me. So in
the wake of the invasion, Halliburton's engineering subsidiary Brown and
Root which later became KBR, and anybody who was in
Iraq where Afghanistan. I assume too knows exactly who KBR is. Right.

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They provided the showers, they provided the chow halls, they
had all those contracts. They were logistics, they were construction.
If you needed a crane, if you needed to move
tea walls, they had the contract. So these Pentagon quietly
opened the door for private firms to profit from military operations.

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And I can assure you as an engineer, we had
most of those assets. But they knew that the deployment
rate coming ahead, that they would wear out the soldiers
and they'd roll out even though for some I mean
I stood in and I did you know four year
you know, three one year tours and one fifteen month tour.

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But you know, when it came to logistics, we handled
some of it, but KBR had a huge role and profited.
Just mind numbly numbers. It's just a fusion of policy

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and profit is really what it was. And you know,
in reflecting, Panama set the precedent, so what was short
War's actual conflict with long term rebuilds and infrastructure change

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and putting in American contractors. And they also taught Washington
how to manipulate public morality through television and newspaper and
controlling the reporters right. And I tried briefly to find
this audio clip, but I didn't have a lot of

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time today because the technology the technology issues I was having.
But there was a point when a reporter asked Cheney
about civilian casualties and Panama and he said, I have
no idea what the numbers are, and I don't care.
You know that really take politics aside. You know, we're

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supposed to be a country that's based on innocent until
proving guilty, and you don't care about, you know, those
who were in harm's way, who had nothing to do,
even if you believe the official narrative. That's that's something evil,
it really is. Now we'll touch on desert storm. I've

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touched on this an awful lot, so I won't beat
it to death, but it's part of the story. So
Operations just cause prove that again he could control the media.
So the next theater would really transform him from a
simple bureaucrat into a world really a ward power broker.

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So again August second, nineteen ninety, Iraq invaded Kuwait. Cheney
in his circle really saw a known opportunity. They knew
it was coming. That they framed Hussein right, who again
was an ally during the Iran Iraq war. Right, and

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again they framed him as the new Hitler. He was
threatening the oil lifeline of the free world. Right. When
you tell America whose dollars based on the petro dollar
that you could be looking at, you know, seven or
eight dollars a gallon gas. People care about their pocketbook.
And the Bush administration, along with Chaney, started flooding the

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airwaves with propaganda. And that's what intelligence people do, not
intelligent intelligence, right, Formacia guy. But what the public did
not see was that Cheney and the Pentagon had already
drawn up scenarios for the Middle East much much prior

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to August second. Right, they didn't get the emotional investment
that they wanted. But the trigger came through the tearful
teenage girl named Naira al Sabah. I've played her audio
hundreds of times. I'm not going to beat a dead
horse there, but she testified before Congress that Iraqi soldiers

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had stormed Kuwaiti hospitals and ripped babies out of incubators. Right,
and everybody watching was shocked. They were horrified, Right, but
the entire story was false. She was the daughter of
the Kuwaiti ambassador of the United States. She was coached
by the public relations firms Hill and Knowlton in a

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ten million dollar campaign that was orchestrated by the Kuwaiti government.
And when the story broke about Naira al Sabah and
the lie, when the truth came out, and I think
it was October of ninety two, so it was about
a year and change after. You know, most people came

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home from Desert Storm. A lot of people were extremely upset,
including my father, because that was one of the events
that he saw on TV that was you know, let's go,
let's go the horrible human beings. And you know, like
everyone else, the public was seething when we heard that

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young girl played us crying. They were ripping babies from incubators.
Oh my gosh. Everybody was like, you know, General Schwarps cough,
please take care of these animals. Right. So they launched
a desert storm in January of ninety one. It was
a spectacle. It was the first real war made for TV. Right,

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the smart bombs on CNN, the precision strikes, right, and man,
you want to talk about patriotism. I remember coming home,
I landed at Dover Air Force Base and I got
in the car and like every tree I don't remember,
must have been Route thirteen, I had a yellow ribbon

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on it, right for that old song tie yellow ribbons
on the old oak tree. But I mean, patriotism was
at an all time high. Like Whitney Houston singing the
national anthem at the Super Bowl. Very memorable moment. But
you know, in six weeks, Iraq's military was crushed. But

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you know what else was crushed, right the truth. The
Pentagon refused to release civilian death tolls, and even if
they did, you know it would be lies. Again, do
your own research. The low range about twenty five thousand.
I've seen some as high as one hundred thousand. My
dad was at that bridge where they took out the

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front side of the bridge, the backside of the bridge,
and then they were all sitting ducks, the Highway of Death,
I think it was called. And then we were treating soldiers.
But behind all of that you had Haliburton's KBR securing
and I mean lucrative contracts for construction and logistics in

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the Persian golf. So here's the thing, taking all the
emotion aside. The business of war was no longer incidental
or defense. It was the mission itself. And for those
of you who still don't understand the meaning before or
the meaning of I should say Trump renaming the Department

(37:38):
of Defense to the Department of War. You truly don't
get what this country is about. Where's a business here?
War is what gives us fifty five inch flat screen
TVs and New f one fifties and thirty two hundred
square feet house. I understand not everyone has those things, right,
but I'm saying if you've traveled the world, you under

(37:59):
stand that even in these times of you know, hardship,
many people still have it much better than people around
the world. And it's because of how we operate. And
again I am if you've turned into the fact hunner
for the first time. No, I'm not some crazed progressive liberal,

(38:22):
never voted democrat in my life, old school conservative right.
But you know, when you start to get older and
you start to see the truth and you realize the
left wing and the right wing belong to the same
corrupt bird, it is your duty, it is your obligation, right,
especially if you follow christ to speak the truth, no

(38:45):
matter if it goes against your traditions. And for many
of us, right those old school conservative politics that they
start to conflict when you see the truth, and then
over time they just fade away because really, like everything else,
like sports, there were a distraction, really the federal right.

(39:07):
That's what I'm talking about. When reporters question the morality
of destroying the retreating troops, Cheney responded, if I had
to do it over again, I'd do it the same way.
That was really callous pragmatism, but that was his trademark.

(39:28):
The Golf War also tested another emerging weapon, and I
venture to say it is the most dangerous weapon today.
It's not moabs, it's not nuclear missiles. But we saw
how powerful this weapon was five years ago. And that
is control of the media. During the Golf War, the

(39:51):
military restricted journalists and their access, and they filtered every briefing.
By managing the optics, Cheney turned destruction into theater. And
what they do is they use graphics and slogans and
victory parades. Right, the networks actually became extensions of the
Pentagon Press office, like a video game. So now they

(40:16):
had finally formulated this blueprint for the twenty first century deception.
It was setting the course for things to come right.
It's a moral theater of good versus evil, right, and
by that they can justify any act, any law, any profit,

(40:37):
as long as the flag covered the bill. And Cheney
learned that Americans would tolerate endless wars as long as
they could watch it from the comfort of their own
living rooms. Right. Proverb says a fault witness shall not
be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.

(40:59):
And that really exposes the false narrative that these people
were involved in. And the thing I think people miss
about Desert Storm, it just wasn't a war. It was
the first real marketing campaign for perpetual conflict. Now, obviously
people got tired of Iraq and Afghanistan, but I can

(41:22):
assure you those old enough remembered. And I preached on
this last Sunday in my sermon when I talked about
John MacArthur's book and God Bless America. Rarely do Americans,
you know, stay close to God during the good times, right,
But it's in those times of trial when people look

(41:45):
up to God. I want to get into Halliburton really
quick I have about thirty more minutes. So after Desert Storm,
Cheney did what very few secretaries had done defense secretaries.

(42:09):
He walked straight out of the Pentagon into the boardroom,
and in nineteen ninety five he became the CEO of Aliburton,
one of the largest oil field service companies in the world.
This was not a retirement from public life. He was
simply a transfer of power from political to corporate. And

(42:31):
understand that Halliburton was no ordinary energy company. Through its
massive engineering subsidiary KBR, it held decades of military contracts.
They built bases, pipelines, they had most of the contracts
for the logistic networks, and basically every conflict since Vietnam.

(42:53):
And now that Cheney had a job that gave him
control over a legitimate empire that straddles the line between
government and private industry. I mean, there was no one
better suited to exploit that boundary, right. And if you
go back and study Halliburton from the mid nineties, in

(43:19):
just a few years, Halliburton's revenues rose by thirty percent.
And when you're talking billions of dollars, thirty percent of billion,
that is a huge, huge raise of income. And they
started getting into listen to all these places Nigeria, right,

(43:39):
Trump saying he's talking about going into Nigeria. Now, Saudi Arabia,
we've been there since ninety That was an excuse to
get us a ninety desert storm Iran in Iraq. We
will be in Iran in our lifetime without a doubt.
So what Chaney did was, with all the connections he
made during his time as the Secretary of Defense, he leveraged,

(44:02):
you know, his weight, and made connections to secure billions
in government contracts and especially through the Army's log CAP.
And I spent a lot of time in log CAP.
That was the Army's logistic Civil Augmentation program that was

(44:26):
so basically KBR became the military's go to whether it
was building bases, barracks, housing, running supply chains. Man. I mean,
they had it all. But you know, Cheney's never been
the kind of guy who just settled for things. So

(44:47):
nineteen ninety eight, Haliburton acquired Dresser Industries. Now, if that
rings a bell, it should. That was a Texas based
oil company once run by Prescott Bush, the grandfather of
George W. Bush. That's the part that doesn't get talked
about enough. Right, everybody knows the connection between Cheney and KBR,

(45:11):
but most people forget Dresser Industries and the connection to
the Bush family and that man. That merger created a
twenty five billion dollar behemoth, but it also brought in
some interesting times. Right. There were several Dresser executives and

(45:34):
hear me for a minute, listen closely. Several Dresser executives
accused Halliburton of accounting irregularities and really shady bookkeeping, right,
and they warned that Cheney's leadership prioritize growth at any cost.

(45:58):
There was one senior executative that called the merger a
corporate shotgun wedding with no prina. Now again, this was
nineteen ninety eight. Three years later was nine to eleven.
I tell you once, I tell you one hundred times.
One of the reasons nine to eleven had to happen
was to destroy evidence that had to do with Enron,

(46:22):
that had to do with Halliburton, that had to do
with Dresser Industries, on and on and on. Even in
December twenty ten, after the housing crisis, the Nigerian government
of all people, Right, look, a lot of the scammers

(46:42):
come from Nigeria. Let's just say what it is right,
not saying every person in Nigeria is a bad person,
but it is known if you look at the most
corrupt countries in the world, they're up there. But for
Nigeria to file a corruption and bribery complaint against Haliburton
for one hundred and eighty million dollar bribe and again, listen,

(47:05):
I'm not bashing on Nigeria. There's a lot of great
Christians down there. They're being persecuted right now. But the
government is known as one of the most shady and
they're naming Cheney personally, not Halliburton personally. Massive one hundred

(47:26):
and eighty million dollar bribes to secure liquefied natural gas contracts.
Haliburton settled the case for a quarter of a billion dollars,
but of course their lawyers are able to say, you know,
we'll pay this without admitting guilt, which means that we're guilty.
Why would you pay a quarter of a billion dollars
if you were not guilty? You know, at that time

(47:50):
it was one of the largest foreign bribery settlements in history.
But like every other one of these slime balls that
have taken our country and were able to prosper personally,
and they all walk away untouched, whether it's Obama, Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Bush,

(48:17):
you know, Poppy Bush, all of them, every last one
of them, certainly the bidens. Right. So while Cheney was there,
his compensation topped forty four million dollars. But that doesn't
even take into consideration his deferred salary and stock options.

(48:40):
I mean, it was crazy. Remember their motto, then, I
shouldn't say their modo, their philosophy privatize everything, conceal accountability,
and monetize chaos. So when that next chaos arrived nine
to eleven, Corporate was perfectly positioned to feed on reconstruction,

(49:05):
logistics and oil infrastructure. Right. But the next chapter would
reveal really his ambitions, and it was a plan written
years before in the documents of PENAC Project for New
American Century.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
By the late nineteen nineties, Cheney had transcended the usual
brown boundaries of politics and business. He's now operating in
the realm of ideology, the place where wars are planned.
Long before the first bomb falls, that ideology found its
way home in a Washington think tank called the Project

(49:43):
for a New American Century, or PNAC. It was founded
in nineteen ninety seven by William Crystal. Go investigate his
wife and Robert Kagan. You know they're all part of
the same Uh maybe it was Kagan's wife, right, the
one of off with Ukraine. My apologize. But Pack was
not just another policy forum, you know when you read that,

(50:07):
it's a mission statement for world dominance. And the founding
document was entitled Rebuilding Americans Defenses. And Cheney was a signatory.
Rumsfell wolf of Witz and Elliott Abrams and all of
those gentlemen. And I say that loosely would soon fill

(50:30):
the ranks within the George W. Bush administration. And when
you go back and read these documents, it's I remember
when I years ago, whatever, ten years ago, when I
first found out about Pinak and started looking to nine
to eleven truth. It's chilling not to use that word lightly. Right.

(50:53):
It spoke of the need to fight and decisively win
multiple simultaneous major theater wars. But they warned that without
a galvanizing event, something like a new Pearl Harbor, the
American publican might resist. The American public might resist such
an ambitious agenda, And their Pearl Harbor came on September eleventh,

(51:16):
two thousand and one right, you could say it's intellectual
foundation drew heavy from these foundations like the American Enterprise Institute, which, oh,
by the way, Cheney served as a senior fellow, and

(51:37):
the CFR, the Council on Forvard Relations, which oh, by
the way, he held a membership. Right, these think tanks
were all part of it. And what's even more interesting
is his ties to the Jewish Institute for National Security
of America, which, if you sit down and read that
five times, what does that even mean? Right? And basically

(52:01):
it was founded in nineteen seventy six, and it advocates
for a strong US Israel defense relations. But most of
the money goes straight to Israel. And how Israel is
allowed to run all these nonprofits here and APAK and
everything else. It's just beyond me. It is so beyond me.

(52:24):
And you know, Cheney, let's face it, Chaney repeatedly pushed
for wars that aligned directly with Israel's regional interest, right, Iran, Iraq, Syria. Right,
whether intentional or incidental, it created the appearance of a
conflict of interest. Right, we're fighting for other countries. And

(52:48):
there's many people who are honestly for a lack of
a better statement, just getting tired of it. So I'm
going to move along as as we're getting order on time.
But you know, we couldn't complete it without talking about
nine to eleven and the windfall financially. You know, while

(53:12):
we were all still in shock, I can assure you
that Cheney was going to work on his plan immediately.
He was in the EOC, the President's EOC Emergency Operations
Center beneath the White House, and he basically assumed a
facto control of the government's response, and he provided those attacks.

(53:35):
And you know, he was a part I firmly believe
that they knew and was a part of creating what
happened on September eleventh. And I've talked about this at nauseum, right,
and he took the momentum from the emotions of the
American people who wanted blood, and he ran with it.

(53:57):
And I can assure you that, along with his legal counsel,
what was his name, David Addington, that they had much
of the right. People were quick, Yes, we need emergency directives.
Whatever you do, don't let this happen again. So they
said thanks, and within a few weeks they had the
Patriot Act ready to go, which is truly an o

(54:20):
Orwellian piece of legislation that again written largely before nine
to eleven, ever happened, it was ready to go, and
that authorized maths, surveillance, secret warrants, and definite intention domestic
wire tapping. The very foundations you know that go against.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
You.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
You could say, it's the foundations of what we live
in today, the modern security state, and goes against what
we were supposedly originally, you know, founded upon, for lack
of a better words. And again, the deal was you
give up a little bit of your freedom for a
little bit of security. Tru They created an architecture for

(55:02):
total information control. They had programs like Stellar Wind we
haven't talked about that too much that allowed the NSA
to monitor millions of Americans communications without court orders. When
exposed years later, Cheney's response was again, if we had
to do it again, We'd do it again. That's what
he always says. And another banner of the war on

(55:26):
terror Afghanistan and O one, Iraq and three, and each
war conveniently aligned with PENAC doctrine right. And of course
the case for Iraq was the lies about the weapons
of mass destruction, which Cheney personally helped disseminate. Right. You

(55:49):
go back on YouTube, you look at all the Sunday
talk shows that he was citing sourcers and that he
knew were fabricated, right, including the infamous yellow uranium story
from Niger. Just an absolute fraud, a bad human being

(56:10):
who even Kevin was telling me today in an email
that he came for something and the coal workers couldn't
even get their three day weekend because of the security
levels that were going on. So even people who weren't
in the military, he had an effect on their lights
as well. But the big thing, and I've mentioned this

(56:30):
a thousand times that doesn't get talked about enough. When
they have these emergencies, whether it's nine to eleven or COVID,
they get no bid contracts, no bid contracts. And let
me tell you just in the first year of Iraq,
KBR received over seven billion dollars of no bid contracts.

(56:55):
It's absolute insanity. Remember, changing claim to have severed financial
ties to Halliburton, but public disclosures revealed ongoing deferred compensation
and stock options. He was still getting paid while he
was the Vice president of the United States. He was

(57:16):
profiting from the very wars he helped started, and that
in itself is inherently evil as you can get. I
don't want to hear about any other leader in this world,
King John un or anybody else. If you are creating
mass events, mass casualty events to start wars so you
can earn billions of dollars while you're in office, that

(57:38):
is treason. And you know, and everybody just goes on
with the day. Hey, the Cowboys lost last night? How
awesome is that? Right? Who cares? Man? They're sending your
children off to die for profit and control, and people
just sleep walk through this world man, bunch of zombies. Goodness, gracious,

(58:05):
we haven't even mentioned the overbuilding. I wish I could
talk for two hours tonight. I'm so fired up about this.
They had so many overbillings. We caught fraudulent charges. They
were given contracts for equipment we didn't even need, just
ridiculous stuff. They were paying for contaminated water supplies. Thank
God for a rope, you guys. That's for verse osmosis

(58:27):
water purification units our OWPU and even you know, in
many cases they were endangering us. They were cutting corners
and cooking books and the auditors. Of course, in the Pentagon,
their own auditors found billions unaccounted for and they just

(58:49):
write it off. What are you going to do? Right,
just like September tenth, two thousand and one, Oh we're
missing two point three trillion dollars? Oh, what are you
going to do? And you know, by two thousand and six,
just five years after nine to eleven, Halliburton's profits had
quadrupled and everybody's just going about their day. The war

(59:13):
on terror became a business of terror. And again, if
you just have you know, an object is terror, right,
it's not a war against an individual or an entity.
It's just war on terror. You can go on as
long as the people will tolerate it. And we tolerate
this stuff too much. We tolerated Vietnam and all these

(59:36):
other wars that are just fabricated. People need to take
their emotions out of the game. I want to skip this.
We've already talked about the CFR. I'm just going over
my notes. You know, we have talked about his connections,
whether it was Kissinger, a big new brazen Ski pardon me,

(59:58):
and of course David Rockefeller, right, big one. They were
all part of building the structure, which was, you know,
making bad guys, creating conflict, getting people emotionally invested, sending
them off to war while they just make billions and
billions of dollars. So, you know, he's really been out

(01:00:28):
of the public view for some years now. I think
the last time he made the news did he shoot
a guy hunting or something. Right, The worst that he
helped design really left a trail of destruction. They stretched
from Baghdad to Kabul. The balance sheets of the Pentagon

(01:00:50):
and the American taxpayers, and of course, you know, lest
we forget the grieving families across America and the country's affected.
The human toll was staggering. And again this is just
the American side. You know, you had over forty five

(01:01:11):
hundred soldiers died in Iraq, and what we don't talk
about enough. And Veterans Day is next week and I'm
not out here to garner a thank you or I
volunteered thank someone who was drafted. But we don't talk
about the people who came back and suffered from their PTSD,
saw things that they couldn't handle. In the military during

(01:01:33):
that time, you either deployed or they kicked you out,
and people couldn't handle it, and a lot of my
friends took their lives, some intentionally, some unintentionally through alcohol,
poisoning and other things. But that doesn't get talked about enough. Right.

(01:01:54):
Just Iraq, forty five hundred KIA over thirty thousand returned
wound in Afghanistan. Another twenty four hundred troops were lost, right,
But again the civilian costs. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi
Afghans right, caught in the crossfire. You know, we see

(01:02:17):
entire societies shredded in the name of freedom. But as
I mentioned with a snap, right, the biggest recipients percentage
wise are Afghans and Iraqis. We continue because of the displacements.
To be I don't want to say, you know, we
created the problem, we bring them over, but the fact

(01:02:41):
is many of them are not working, and we have
to provide for them through tax dollars, and that doesn't
even cast you know, what the wars cost us. And
again the estimates, and I really think these are way low,
but they say the war on Terror was somewhere around
eight trillion dollars. That's twenty percent of our current debt

(01:03:06):
thirty eight trillion. But again I think that's extremely low.
Much of that went to Halliburton and Dick Cheney's people.
But I think the greatest casualty was the constitution itself,
if you still have belief in it. Again, if you're
going to have a constitution, that's a contract between a
government and its people, and I don't believe that this
government has abided by that in a long long time.

(01:03:28):
I'm not here to be a negative Nancy. I'm just
a realist. Right. Cheney's post nine to eleven security apparatus
normalized warrantless surveillance, secret prisons, indefinite detention, which we saw
in COVID. Right people didn't champion that the Patriot Act
nsa stellar win program, the expansion of FISA courts, they

(01:03:53):
all became permanent fixtures. We're still talking about this stuff today.
All in the name of safety. We forfeited liberty, and
if we believe everything, what our founders feared was a
security state managed by unelected technocrats. And even after he

(01:04:14):
left office, he never expressed remorse. Every time he was
confronted about something, even about torture, he said, I'd do
it again in a minute. When asked about faulty intelligence,
when having to do with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq,

(01:04:34):
He said, so what. He had no moral compass whatsoever.
All he cared about that the corporations under his watch,
whether it be Haliburton, Lockheed, Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, as long
as they continue to feast on the same model, and

(01:04:55):
that is perpetual war sold his perpetual defense. Cheney's revolving
door between government and business didn't close when he left.
It just simply became the template for generations to come.
And you know, he lived out his days comfortable, rich.

(01:05:20):
And you know, I'm not here to say where his
soul is right now. Only he and the Good Lord
know that. But look, you know, the empire that he built,
the empire he helped build, will not stand forever. But

(01:05:44):
please know that the Kingdom of God will. Okay. The
lesson for you all is this, don't envy the power
of the wicked. Don't chase dollar. If you're successful and
you work hard, you do it right. God bless you
if you're successful. But the love of money is the
root of all evil. But don't envy the power of

(01:06:06):
the wicked. It is fleeting. Stand firm in the truth,
as we always do because the truth is eternal, and
Jesus is the Way and the Truth and the life.
God bless each and every one of you. And again
this was kind of on the run. I saw the
news this morning and I felt it needed to be mentioned.

(01:06:29):
And again, this is not all encompassing. I had a
lot of notes I left out for time. I'm about
to head off for dinner, and I've got another lecture tonight.
So listen. God bless each and every one of you.
If I have time on Thursday, I'll do a recording
on the Vatican. If not, we'll save it for next week.
But have a great week. God bless you. Keep your
head on a swivel. And until we meet again, my friends,

(01:06:52):
we will see you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
I know it's been gone. I know you've had spain.
I know you feel tired, hell down by all the way.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Yeah, I know you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Feel more, you smile, ain't the same.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
I saw you way go from.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
You feel like you've lost your way.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Don't give it, No, don't give it, and never is home.
Don't let call the primise. It ain't done yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
He's got up plaid. Why it's away?

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Time got up?

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
May come? Why afraid God y called.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
I can see the street beside you. Childs are putting
up the five. Oh, you're stronger than any thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
You are.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah, you're gonna be all right.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
You're accepting a bad found beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
You're shoving ride.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
Yeah, you're living, breathing, move, you can hold your head
a pie. Don't give up, No, don't give in. You
never lose home. Don't let gone on the primies. Me
ain't Donion's God.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
I let winds away down the God of me because
don't give up. No, don't give in. You never love home.
Don't let go on the primies. It ain't gone like
it's worth living. What's a way down the God?

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Up?

Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
Baby? Why's spray down?

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
God?

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
Oh yeah, what's a play down the god? Baby call?
Oh yeah, got the TV call.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Don't give up, No, don't give in? Never so do
they go off the PRIMI I mean and don yas
got up playing watch a kind of ivy colts. Don't
give no dog giving never of this whole. Don't let

(01:10:01):
go of the trains getting done? Lovers for living?

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
What's done?

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
The God of a comes all, the God of needs?

Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
Cos why's he done?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
The God of any case?

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
You're listening to the fact Hunter Radio Network.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
Just the facts, ma'am.