Why Orthodox Christianity Is the Future of America

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is doctor
David Patrick Carey with Church of the Eternal Logos, and
today we are going to make the case why the
dramatic increase and Orthodox converts is not a trend but
a reality that's going to continue into the future. So
today we're going to be addressing why Orthodoxy will eventually

(00:39):
take over America. Now it may not be in the
next five to ten years, but generally the argument I'm
going to be making is the symptoms of modernity and
the problems of modern America and really Western civilization that
are driving so many people to Orthodoxy is not going
to end anytime soon. And so the reasons for people converting, well,

(01:03):
those aren't going to go away. And so as long
as the Orthodox Church maintains itself and deals with really
some of the internal problems such as the clergy shortage,
Orthodoxy has nothing but an upside moving forward. So I
think that, well you'll see I have. I'm going to

(01:24):
make the case with ten reasons that I think Orthodoxy
is only going to increase in America, and you know,
much of it has to do with the We've talked
about the deism, the modernity, but the meaning crisis, so
many things that people are looking for. Orthodoxy truly is
the solution. So we're going to be I got a

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little monologue. We'll be doing ten points on why I
think Orthodoxy is going to continue to grow, and then
we'll be looking at some of the recent articles sometimes
criticizing Orthodoxy. We'll be looking at one Sarah Riccardi Schwartz.
It's actually an article that I was in. This was
from July of twenty twenty three. It was a hit

(02:07):
piece on Father Peter Hears and because I have done
me much content with Father Peter here on this channel,
I was included into that as a let me let
me quote accurately, guys, let me quote the art the
article accurately. I am a homophobe, transphobe, fat phobic, and ablest,

(02:35):
so guiltiest charged. I suppose they they hit, they hit
the nail on the head there. But we're gonna be
looking at some articles and also some videos. You know
what's the hottest thing if you're a Protestant or a
Catholic right now, The hottest thing is to attack the
Eastern Orthodox Church. So yeah, somebody said, I'm America will

(03:00):
be Orthodox, because I'm going to have ten children and
they will all be Orthodox when I get married, of course,
and when when, and if my wife can handle that, well,
God willing brother, I hope you do have ten children.
That's going to be part of why the sort of
long term generational game, I mean, much of it is
in our favor, as long as we really don't destroy

(03:24):
the momentum that we already have in America. And as
I said, in the Western world Orthodox he is not
just growing in the US, in Germany, Ireland, England. I
know for a fact that it's growing. I've talked with
a few people in Scandinavia, Sweden, Norway, Finland. It doesn't
seem like it's as popular as it is in some

(03:45):
of the other Western nations, but certainly in America. I
am aware that it's also growing in Canada, but you know,
Canada is usually just kind of off my radar. Is
Canada of you know, cold significance. Right now, it seems
like Canada that game's already over. I mean, it feels
like they've already reached the immigrant threshold. Correct me if

(04:07):
I'm wrong. And I'm sure we got some Canadians in
the chat, right now. But when are we going to
see dph mary if children? Oh, when we're going to
see a dph army of children? Probably pretty soon. I mean,

(04:27):
my wife and I aren't stopping the potentiality, so I
you know, it could I could have my own little
army here at any point, any point are you talking
about Canada. It's the Australia of the Western Hemisphere. I
don't know, I kind of privilege Australia over Canada. Canadian

(04:48):
politicians are trying to sell their country to China. I
you know, I let's say this, Almost all the Canadians
that I engage with and interact with one the mostly
all orthodox Christian or Christian adjacent, very good quality people.
Canada as a generality regarding the population, I just don't

(05:11):
get it. I mean, it just seems so self sacrificial.
I get the sort of Canadian hospitality and the you know,
the stereotypes of Canadians being so kind and stuff. But
my gosh, the recent political election it looked like it
was all Seeks. It was all Indians for every political party.
It was like an Indian or a foreigner or a Muslim,

(05:32):
as like, come on, Canada, get your shit together. And
I say that as an American who you know in
New York City just voted for a socialist Muslim. But
maybe that's gonna be providential, Right, Maybe that's gonna be providential.
And that's part of what I am going to be
arguing in regards to modern America. You know, Father Turbo

(05:56):
made a comment that if Kamala Harris actually won the election,
it would have been better for the Orthodox Church. And
you're probably thinking, what the heck is Father Turbo talking about. Well,
he's talking about how Orthodox he spreads under persecution. And
I'm gonna eventually make this general point throughout multiple of

(06:17):
my ten points of why America will be Orthodox now
and into the future. But Father Turbo is highlighting that,
you know, with the election of Trump, there is a
sort of malaise of this sort of general Christianity, or
that mag as a return to some sort of amorphous
general Christianity where the worst that the country gets, the

(06:41):
brighter the Orthodox Church is going to be. And it
doesn't mean we need to be accelerationists, right. I don't
think that's spiritually advisable or actually beneficial for especially people
that already have children, that already have families that have careers,
you know, to try to accelerate the disaster. But the
disaster is coming, be it the financial crisis, being a

(07:03):
housing crisis, be it war. You know, the rhetoric of
Trump trying to sort of bait Putin into some sort
of nuclear arms race. I mean, you know, there's a
lot of things going on right now, let alone Zionism.
Right so that's the heart of the American empire right now, Zionism.

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And of course we as Orthodox Christians see much of
what they're doing in a very apocalyptic escheological lens. I mean,
their Messiah is our Antichrist. The Greater Israel project is satanic.
The building of the Third Temple is a demonic institution
that is going to be devoted to the Antichrist. So
a lot of stuff that is going on, you know,

(07:46):
we as Orthodox Christians have the correct lens to look
at it. But yes, the world's going to get worse.
Doesn't mean we're accelerationists, but I think it is important,
as Father Turbo highlights that we need to realize that
as things get worse, our star in American culture is
going to get brighter and brighter and brighter. So I
think there's a lot of optimism. We were talking about this.

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few people that are inquirers. They're not actually Orthodox yet.
But we were doing a think thing this past Wednesday,

(08:32):
and one of the topics that kind of took over
the conversation for aboun an hour an hour and a
half was exactly this and how we as Orthodox Christians
can begin to build parallel communities and really build a
parallel system to the American system while also being inside
and operating within the confines of American culture so we

(08:53):
can get more people. And what does it mean you know,
you hear this rhetoric you even here in America. First
sore the some of the groupers or some of the
Christian nationalists, which I am a nationalist, I am a Christian,
but Christian nationalism, what exactly is Christian nationalist. Does it
mean that we're all Protestants? Do we all just go
to you know, Billy Bob's church and we can believe

(09:16):
whatever we want to believe as long as we claim
that we're Christian. Like, what exactly is Christian nationalism? And
I posed a hypothetical thought experiment to somebody because my
belief and I would argue, this is sort of an
Orthodox disposition towards the sanctification of a nation, is we

(09:37):
really aren't interested in sanctifying the democratic republican system of
American politics and taking, you know, take a hold of
the power structure that is, and sort of remake it
in our orthodox image because that would fail. Why would
it fail? Because the nation itself doesn't reflect our values.

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And so that's where I would disagree with some on
the right wing sphere that are some of these Christian
nationalists that think, oh, well, we just need to win
elections and we just need to take over, you know,
the the republic itself, and that we can just turn
it into a Christian nation. Well, what does that mean?
Because I'm an Orthodox Christian and my Christianity doesn't jive

(10:21):
with other people who are under the same nomenclature as Christians,
and so from an Orthodox perspective, the only way to
make America a Christian nation is to win the hearts
and minds of people. You see, we get an Orthodox
America when we have America that is majority Orthodox Christian.
That's the only way that we actually win the battle.

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And I think that that helps sort of reframe the
focus that we're not interested, you know, even the monarchy.
You know, I am more monarchists and more monarchical than ever,
you know. My support for democracy, I think, really I
don't know, since I've become Orthodox, my faith in democracy

(11:04):
or any sort of modern political orientation could be fascism,
could be socialism, could be communism, could be you know,
whatever system that you want to think about. Essentially, since
the nineteenth century forward, since the fall of the European
monarchies and the movement towards full modernity, right as the
whole point with World War One is that's the end
of the European monarchies. That is the there was a

(11:27):
bit of a there's still a sort of refuge, a
remnant of the pre modern world in Europe, and that's
what World War One was about, is destroying that remnant
of the pre modern world and forcing everyone to get
into these parliamentary democratic systems. But as we see, that's
a total failure. And so I'm all in favor of
a return to monarchy. But how do we do that

(11:48):
in America. Well, it's not going to happen overnight, and
it's not going to happen probably in our lifetime. So
the idea of America becoming a monarchy, I've seen some
of the Ortho bros. Online discuss it's like, I come on,
thank realistically here, that's not going to happen. That's not
going to happen. But what can happen and what should
our focus be is continuing to evangelize. We are winning

(12:09):
Christian apologetics right now. We're winning the apologetics fear online,
we're winning the debates, but we're also winning the culture.
I mean, when it comes to all the cultural issues,
it's orthodoxy where you get the full and total package.
So our job really isn't to do much but continue

(12:31):
to do what we're doing and win the hearts and
minds of men and women, and eventually, as our first
comments set of having ten children, once you get married
and you have your children and again if you're an
Orthodox man, you should have the goal of at least
three children. I mean, you already know the game. If
you're Orthodox, you already know the game. You already know
the demographics, you know the immigration, you know the projected

(12:55):
state of America. You know by the year twenty one hundred, mean,
it's going to be a totally different country. However, if
Orthodox Christians actually get their butt together, get married and
have at least three children, well we're above a replacement rate.
And if we can maintain our children and our Christian faith,
which we've talked about before, as long as the father

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and if the father maintains his religious identity and devotion
and attend services regularly, and then if the wife also
does as well, it's like an eighty five percent chance
of religious retention. The problem often is and in one
study that dropped so even families where the mother didn't
go but the father did, it was like sixty five

(13:40):
to seventy where the children would still keep the tradition
they were raised with. But if it was just the
mother and the father did not attend religious services, it
dropped to like thirty to thirty five percent that the
children to retain their religious identity. So we're in a
position where we need men. We need men to become Orthodox,
we need men to have children, and we are gonna

(14:03):
win the culture. I mean, this is the thing that
if you're really gonna think in spiritual terms, we have
God on our side. In a sense, it's not a
fair fight. I mean, we're as long as we're not censored,
how can we lose. We have the true Church, we

(14:23):
have the aesthetics, we have the tradition, we have the theology,
we have the apologetics. We win, we win. It's just
a matter of time. And we're in a sort of
nascent state. You know. I was just for prepping for
today's stream. I was just trying to find search for,
like Protestant Catholic objections to the growth of Orthodoxy, and

(14:46):
I wrote down a few typed out a few of
the of what the continual themes I've found. But it's
not strong, guys, it's not strong. I mean Joel Webbins
whole critique is that Orthodoxy is an American Well, it's
out to be, because Orthodoxy isn't about a nationality. It's
about the people of a nation adopting the faith. And

(15:08):
that's What makes it Orthodox America. That's what makes it,
you know, Orthodox Serbia or Orthodox Russia, is that the people,
the heart and minds of the people have already adopted
the faith. And my God, guys, I'm telling I'm here
to tell you guys, we are winning and we're going
to continue to win, and it's not going to slow
down anytime soon. I you know, they keep saying that

(15:29):
this is some type of trend. This is like an
esthetic trend. It's a cultural trend for the young guys
to become Orthodox. No, it's not. This is not a
trend at all. This is real life. This is happening.
It's going to continue to happen. And you know, kind
of the the phrase that I had in mind regarding
that was, you know, this what's happening is less of

(15:59):
a tre and more of a reaction to the current
state of America. Right, That's the whole thing. That is
my general thesis. Whenever you hear the Protestant or the
Catholics say this is some type of cultural trend, it's new,
it's novel. People haven't heard about Orthodoxies. It's it's foreign,
it's Eastern, it's ethnic. You know, these things sort of
has a mystique around it, and it's no, no, that's

(16:23):
not why people are converting to Orthodoxy. And I don't
mean to say as a reaction that people aren't choosing
Orthodoxy out of sincerity of the faith and the truth
of the Church. That is true. But what gets them
to even prioritize or look at orthodox It's a reaction.
It's a reaction to the failures of Christian Western christian
It's a failure of Protestantism, it's the failures of Catholicism,

(16:46):
it's the failures of secular modernity America. You know. It's
a reaction to the existential crisis. It's a reaction to,
you know, the meaning crisis. It's a reaction to all
these things that you're seeing people talk about online. But
only one thing actually solves all of it, and it's
Eastern Orthodoxy. So I'm very hopeful and I've actually it

(17:09):
kind of it kind of put a pep in my step. Today.
I was looking at all these shorts and YouTube videos
and Gavin Ortland, you know, criticizing Orthodoxy, and it seems
like Ortland I got, you know, I had a couple
of his videos pulled up. We may watch some of them.
I don't know, but his like whole thing is at
least the ones that he did. He put out a

(17:30):
video recently after he just attended the marriage conference at
Father Josiah Trinham's church in Riverside, California, Saint Andrews, and
he then he put out a video saying the problem
with Orthodoxy and skimming through I didn't watch. I watched it.
I think it was twenty to thirty minutes, probably fifteen
to twenty minutes of it, so I got the general

(17:53):
gist of it, and it basically came down to that
Orthodoxy claims to be the true church and unchanged church,
but because people use that phrase, he's arguing that's not
the historical stance, and that people like matter of Jonathan
Pagio and myself he doesn't say me specifically, but online commentators,

(18:14):
content creators that are pro Orthodox that they say that
we know where the Holy Spirit is, but we don't
know where the Holy Spirit is not and this sort
of gives us for him an out on justification of
people's salvation, and it's like, no, no, that's not an out.
And his argument, at least in one video was because

(18:37):
people are claiming these things. He then highlights historical evidence
of where saints and church fathers claim that you must
be Orthodox to be saved. Well, we also believe that
we're just saying we're not making claims about people's salvation
outside the church. That does not mean that we don't
believe that salvation solely resigns in the church. It does.

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But God understands people context. That is not some out
that is not some novel innovation. And he's trying to
make the argument that people who claim we know where
the Holy Spirit is but not where it isn't is
basically taking Orthodoxy and representing a Protestant steriology and no,
we're not. That is not a Protestant sateriology. And I

(19:23):
think that's a pretty weak critique. I mean, I saw
one guy, a reform guy, and the video had a
considerable amount of views, and he's arguing that, you know,
he's trying to debunk Orthodoxy, and he's going through you know,
the Theotokos iconography and he gets again in one section
again I was clipping through. It was like an hour

(19:44):
and a half video, and he's talking about asceticism and
he highlights a quote from Saint Arenais so a saint
of our church. He highlights a quote from St. Aarnariis
and against Heresies, you know, his famous his book documenting
and Refuting various heresies, talking about a heretical group that

(20:05):
doesn't eat meat. And the argument from the reform guy
was saying, look, Orthodox Christians are the same heresy that
Irenaeus was talking about. What because we fast, Saint Arenaas fasted,
bro Like, just because we fast does not mean we're
the same thing as some vegetarian, heretic gnostic cult of

(20:26):
the ancient period. I mean, it's so brain dead, and
so this is why I might I mean, that's why
I put a pep in my step. The more I
listened to the refutations from Protestants and Catholics about the
growth of Orthodoxy, the more I just convinced, like, my god,
nobody's gonna buy this shit, Like we're kind of set.
I mean, they're doing so much of the work for us. Really,

(20:50):
their arguments are so weak, and that's why for me.
You know, they came up in the think tank the
other night was talking about free speech, and people were
talking about defending free speech, the importance of free speech
stuff like that. And my claim was in the American
landscape that we exist today, yes I'm in favor of
free speech, but in my idealistic future again, I'll probably

(21:15):
nowhere on the earth when this god willing occurs, let's say, theoretically,
hypothetically in the future, maybe one hundred years. Who knows
that American society and the American experience totally reshaped and
we get some type of orthodox monarchy in America now
very very unlikely, right, It's not something that I proseselytize

(21:39):
is going to be the case in the future. But
bear with me here, let's say that's the case. If
that is the case, I want blasphemy laws. I don't
want most in the country. I want a prohibition on
certain religious religions. And it's funny because that shapes some
about the American fabric and individuals, right, And this is

(22:03):
I think why people are so stunned right now. I mean,
how can you argue against Mamdani being the mayor in
n Why's in New York City when you then are
also talking about how you're a free speech absolutist, and
you'll you know, I'll die for the right for the
Muslim to worship in America. Like, Okay, I get the sentiment,

(22:25):
but don't you see that you're literally contributing to your
own cultural suicide. And that's where the American experiment was
fine when it was basically Europeans who all shared a
general against a general Christianity coming to America. But that
doesn't exist anymore. That doesn't exist, And so to be

(22:48):
absolutely pro free speech to view the constitute American Constitution
as some divinely inspired document by a bunch of Deists
and Masons, it's like, this is why you guys are losing,
don't you see? Like politics is the sort of mystical
outlet for American Protestants, right. They don't have mysticism, they

(23:09):
don't have sacraments, but you're you know, the ballot box
is a kind of a sacrament, right, because America is
the chosen nation by God, we are the shining city
on the hill, and therefore to contribute to our democratic
processes somehow sanctifies you. I mean, I think this is
a common sort of subtle presupposition that maybe most people

(23:29):
wouldn't articulate it the way that I just did, but
they're certainly falling victim to these presuppositions, and that's why
Orthodoxy is coming to cleanse the slate. When you become Orthodox,
it forces you to recalculate so many of the fundamental
presuppositions that we're shaped by in Western civilization, and then

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in America specifically, we have our own American ethos and
it is sort of a rugged individualism, which isn't bad,
but now that we exist in a frag made a
country with multi religious, multicultural elements, multi linguistic communities, and
there is no sort there is no shared sacred canopy. Yeah,

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the experiments kind of doomed. You know. It's only Orthodoxy
that can begin to cleanse and unify the problems that
we already faced with. So I think the rugged individualism
of America is problematic. People are digitally isolated now, right,
and we talked about it in the in the think

(24:35):
Tank on Wednesday, is that it's actually the leading contributor
to death. Do you guys know that that more people
are dying from depression and isolation than like smoking cigarettes.
So in a sense, now this is sorely reframing it,

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but the biggest contributor of death in America is the
lack of commune unity. Well, where do you find community? Well,
you know, back in the day, let's let's rewind America
sixty years ago. Maybe you lived in a small town
and you know, choose a state, Arkansas, Missouri, Georgia, Arizona,
doesn't matter. Maybe you lived in a small town and

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maybe there were people, you know, there's the Baptist and
the Methodist over there, there's the Catholic Church. But everybody
had a sort of shared cultural understanding, a shared cultural framework.
Everybody got along, low crime, high trust, very homogeneous demographics.
We kind of got away with the American experiment then, right,

(25:38):
we got away with it because we had ethnic and
at least a general theological presupposition that unified the nation.
And then we had an understanding of our history that
for what you know, for better or for worse. That
George Washington was the first president. You know that Thomas
Jefferson was a deist, you know, founding father who had

(26:03):
incredible insights and was in very very intelligent well to
do in his mid twenties. And it's amazing what the
Founding fathers did. And these were then cultural heroes. The
South built statues to Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee.
But we saw what the BLM like that that America
doesn't exist, that cultural canopy no longer exists. There's nothing
that unites us. And so the rugged individualism that once

(26:26):
was a pride of the American ethos now is the
thing that's actually killing people. And you can see that
this entire American experiment has been flipped on its head.
And that's why Orthodoxy Orthodox Orthodox Christianity's growth in America
is not going to slow down because the American experiment
is doomed to fail. And all these points that I'm

(26:47):
getting ready to highlight in my ten point reasons why
America will be Orthodox, those aren't going to go away.
And the problem it's only going to as the country
gets worse. You know, well, things are only going to
aid in a bet our tradition. So I got ten points,
I'm going to dive into those real quick smash that light. Guys,

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codal crew member for twenty months. Thank you so much, naglebeats,
he says, one week to debatecon, two weeks to Athens

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and Jerusalem. Excited to meet you at both. Who's your's
rock Sna Golbees. That's great, man, You're going to be
at both of them. That reminds me I need to
set a goal. I forgot to set a goal for
today's stream because I need to raise money for the trip.
I totally forgot to do that. So we'll set it
at We'll set it at twenty super chats today, so

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if anybody wants to support the work again, all the
money we're raising that you're generously supporting me with today
is going to go to our trip. I still got
to get my rental car. I got a bunch of books.
I'm going to be taken to Florida, and I don't
want to pay for another suitcase, although I could. I

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don't know. We may just drive. I haven't decided yet.
But anyways, looking forward to meeting all you guys, and
if you're interested in person, be signing books if anybody
wants to buy one there. So, okay, I just got
the goal up. Coleman b throws in vibes. Is how

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many of my Protestant friends who were apprehensive of EO
at first have been coming around to the church. Yeah,
it's going to continue. I'm going to ready to lay
out my ten reasons why this isn't going to stop
right despite you know, to the umbrage of Protestants and Catholics,
but mostly Protestants, right because if you're a Protestant in America,
you can feel you're losing the culture, right, You're losing America.

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This is why you know, they're not super pro Catholic,
but they're definitely more anti Orthodox than they are Catholic
because we're not Western, we're not part of the historical
identity of America. But as I'm going to be making
the point, this is all God's providence that it he
needed America almost needed to be in the place that

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it is today for the Old Faith to make a
resurgence in the new world. Right, that's really what's happening
is the old historic Faith, the unbroken link to the
Apostolic tradition, is now taking root in the New World
in a Canada and America, but in Western Europe, you know,
generally speaking. So yeah, that's what you know, what you're

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experiencing isn't gonna change. And I'm gonna make ten I'm
gonna make my argument for ten reasons why Total Gravity
gifted ten total crew membership. Bro, thank you so much,
Total Gravity. That is a generous, generous support of you today. Man,
God bless you. Thank you very much for the support
and gifting some CODAL crew memberships. Really appreciate that. And

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David James Flood also gifted a Codal crew membership. God
bless you, my brother, ac Ac. How are you and
the family doing? Man? I hope you guys are well,
he says, will that what is a have a Matt
Wash style docu movie to go? Yeah? Fair enough, fair enough?

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God bless you, Ac. Hope you and the family are
doing well. My brother. The Journey of Abundant throws in
five says one session with DPH curb my liberalism and
increase my deadlift by five hundred. That is actually a fact,
you know, Journey of Abundance. You forgot to record your
video testimony. So I'm gonna actually I'm gonna need that
in an MP four file for the website. But you're

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absolutely right that did occur. I thought it was actually
six hundred percent increase, but I could be wrong. Maybe
I have a faulty memory. But a journey of abundance,
God bless you, Broth really appreciate it. Oh, Robert. Robert
is actually from our Logos Academy group, says, just return
from my meeting at Annunciation. I'll be at liturgy tomorrow morning.
Glory to God. Bro You don't want to know the irony,

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and I don't want to get Let's just say Robert
is inquiring into Orthodoxy from the Protestant faith, and he
is a gentleman who is very sincere about his face
and very knowledgeable about his faith. And so what Robert,
we were just in the think tank this past Wednesday,
and one of the things that we were discussing is
he had a meeting actually with an Orthodox today and

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that's what he's talking about. He had He just got
returned from meeting with the priest and saying that he's
actually gonna be at liturgy tomorrow. That's a big deal.
So Robert, Glory to God, my man. That's great to
hear that you must have had a good experience over
at the Annunciation Cathedral there. So all right, but that
being said, let me just real quick so I don't

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miss anybody, make sure, okay, so over on dono chat.
John Anon throws in five. Thank you very much. John
Ann says make America more Orthodox by building and promoting
more quality art, films, books, and other content. Note the
launch of Logos Cinema featuring the new American Orthodox film.
See uh, let me copy that, John, let me copy that.

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I'll pace So he was talking about this film right here.
I just posted the link. That is John Hammond, one
of our great Orthodox brothers, an author. We've done multiple
streams on some of his books, and I'll be doing
another one in the near future. He just came out
with a new book on who is Saint Nicholas. It's
actually right here, nice readable Saint Nicholas the Wonder Worker,

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The Real Story of Santa Claus. This is by John Hammond.
And I've done what three or four of his books
he's done, And he has the amazing documentary American Orthodox,
which is documenting the history of Orthodoxy and in Orthodox
American Saints and so thank you so much John for
the support. God bless you brother, and Heidi b Mary

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throws in a generous twenty bucks says, thanks for the
great streams. Well, thank you very much. Heidi really appreciate that. Okay,
So with all that being said, now let me get
into my arguments for why America will be Orthodox and
why this isn't a trend but a true reaction against

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the failures of modernity general. So number one reason, as
you guys could guess, the number one reason why Orthodox
is going to continue to grow in America is the
failure of modern Western Christianity. And so, as you guys
already know, and I've already made this case multiple times,

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and if you've listened to some of the previous streams,
I mentioned this that even during my PhD defense, one
of the scholars, she is a philosopher out of the
Tomistic tradition. She's an expert on Aristotle, and she her
scholarship focuses on neuroscience, you know, philosophy of mind, philosophy
of person and brain, that type of stuff. And when

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she read my book, I'm making the case in my
book very explicitly that Orthodoxy is the only pre modern
alternative Christian alternative in America. And I make the case
and I try to actually present that in chapter three,
that even the Catholic Church is still modern. And so

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she actually questions during the defense of my dissertation and said,
you know, the Catholic Church is also pre moderate. And
then I brought up Vatican one, Vatican two, aspects that
are coming out of the Vatican, you know, Pope Frank
now Pope Leo, and she conceded that, yeah, I guess
you're right. The Catholic Church has modernized in many ways.

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And so if modernity is the problem, a pre modern
solution is the only answer. And so modern Christianity is
filled with modernism. Modern Christianity is filled with liberal theology.
And so this liberalness again, neoliberalism, it's part of modernity itself.
Is that modernity is built on this idea of progress.

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And you don't think, yeah, you may think that progress
is just technological or scientific or material. That is the case.
As we've said, the five pillars of modernity are rationalism, individualism, scientism,
technological progress, and democracy. Right, it's these five pillars that

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find the modern age. And that's what is meant by modernism.
And that's what the postmodernists are rejecting, right, They're rejecting
that paradigm as a fulfilling structure that will ultimately lead
to utopia. And I agree with the post miners, is
not going to lead to utopia. And with the liberal theology,
we've seen that this sentimentality towards progress has also meant

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changing the entire theology of Christianity. You've seen the angling
of church, want to take out male pronouns for God.
How the hell do you get there? You know? And
now they have like an Archbishop of Canterbury as some
liberal woman. Well, what man dealing with the problems of modernity,
the existential crisis we're talking about if you're in Europe,

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Muslim stabbings about every day. We're talking about immigrants coming
to your community and mocking you, killing you, and then
getting paid by your government from your taxpayer money to
do it. And then if you speak out against it
in the case of England or German online, the police
will come and arrest you for it. And you want

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people to find refuge and a liberalized Christianity where the
Archbishop of Canterbury welcomes Muslim graffiti on their churches as
a form of multi cultural, semiotic expression. What what that's
not gonna work. That's not gonna work at all. And
so the liberal theology, the relativism which has emerged, that's why,

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you know, the Methodist Church has split between the Global Methodists,
which is really you know, a sort of maintaining of
some type of conservative Protestantism just because they don't want
to marry gays. The United Methodist Church had to split
from them because it's so liberalized. And so, how can you,

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as a Christian pastor with some woman who has a
multi rainbow colored you know, vestment on, tell you, oh,
well you need you need abide by scripture when scripture
says she shouldn't even be in the pulpit, tells you
that men and well men should not be sleeping with
men and women shouldn't be sleeping with women. That this

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is a bastardization and a diminution of the image of man,
moving back to a sort of beastial mentality, somebody who's
totally possessed by sexual passions. And yet these same churches
are trying to codify it as part of their doctrines,
and essentially it's almost their dogma, right, because if you
go against it, you're a homophobe. You're a transphobe, as

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if we have some irrational fear of it. Right, That's
why I hate the phobia lingua. We do not have
an irrational fear. We are just against the idea of
men sodomizing men, and somehow that's equal to me and
my wife sacramental marriage. It's not the same thing. Sorry, sorry,
that's just the case. And so you have liberal theology,

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relativistic epistemology, relativistic morality. There is no you a fine
characteristic to Western Christianity, there's no unifying characteristic to Catholicism.
Accept some sort of remnant submission to the papacy. I mean,
what is it that unites the set of a contest
from the super you know, neoliberal or super liberal progressive nobles, orto,

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priests and parishioners that they both have some type of
fidelity to the papacy. That's about it? Is that true unity?
Is that a true theology? And so this is why
in Protestantism specifically, but we're seeing this in the Catholic
Church too, I mean with the I mean even in
the Vatican you're seeing circus performers try to present the fit.

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I mean remember with Pope France. You guys seen the
videos right where Pope Francis is sitting there watching these
male circus performers, and it has this weird erotic vibe
to it, and you're like, what the hell is going
on here? Well, well, worship has become entertainment in the West,
and so because of the failed theology, because of the

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failed epistemology and morality, what do you get? You get
a sense of sort of gratification through an entertainment type
of worship thereby no longer delineating your worship on Sunday
from you sitting down and watching a Netflix documentary later
that day, you can sip your chi latte. You know,

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you get the lights, you get the music, you get
the electric drum set on stage, you get the feel
good sermon, or maybe it's more of a let's say
it's a more reformed conservative sermon, Okay, but it's still
all entertainment, Like people are going to churches to be entertained,

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when in history is that the purpose of the church.
So my point here is that modern Western Christian jenny
has entirely failed, I truly believe, and I talked about
this with cleve to Antiquity on his channel. I mean,
is it going to exist in two hundred years? Is
it going to exist in one hundred years? Certainly not

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at a substantial demographic level. It can't. Protestantism is going
to be washed away with the times because there's nothing
for it to hold on to, because they don't have
the unified ethnic and religious communities they once had, and
now they can't even deal with the precepts of modernity
and the failing of the American project. So what are

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they going to do? It's going away, guys. We talked
about with the average age of attendee. It's going away.
I mean. The only Christian forms that will probably truly
be present in America if America still exists in one
hundred to two hundred, three hundred years, maybe some type
of Pentecostalism, because that is still growing like wildfire and

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Central and South America. In Africa, especially Sub Saharan Africa,
because they can mix the ecstaticism of Pentecostalism with their
own Afro pagan you know, animistic religions. So so Pentecostalism
may still be here. I mean, I suspect Mormonism will
still be here. Mormons aren't Christian, of course, but it's

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gonna be Catholicism and Orthodoxy. And I don't I don't see,
you know, I'm me just looking and pronosticating into the future.
I don't see Catholicism really going to stand the test
of time. You know. It's just is it really base
to be Catholic anymore? I mean, they have to defend

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the things coming out of the papacy like every other day.
Is Catholicism really trad I mean, but Pope Leo is
trying to make some type of you know, trying to
extend some type of olive brand to the trad Catholics.
But Pope Francis was quite clear he didn't want them
in the church. So to me, Catholicism, Western Christianity in

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general has failed, and it offers no doubt to the
existential crisis of modernity because all of them are modernist projects.
You can say that the Catholic Church in origin was
pre modern, but with the influence of Renaissance humanism, with
the influence of the Enlightenment, scientism. Vatican one, Vatican two,

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the nobles Ordo mass like. This is not a pre
modern faith anymore. This is entirely within the confines of modernity.
And so Number one reason why America will be Orthodox
is that Western Christianity has failed. It's failed, it's over,
it's it's you know, it's not winning any future battle.

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The only thing that I would say is maybe all
these the opposing this Western Christianity, one possibility in the
future is that it will sort of amalgamate itself into
some sort of unified entity, which will set the stage
for people to bow their need to the Antichrist, because
it's already filled with all the worldlyism. I mean, you know,
on half the Protestants are Zionists, and they're literally aiding

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in a betting the coming of the Antichrist because they
have a false theology. Again, because it's already failed. They
have a false theology. The theology, the theological foundations of
their systems themselves have failed. So number one the failure
of modern christian Number two, my second reason why America
will be Orthodox is there is a hunger for transcendence

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in a secular age. This is the whole principle for
my book Return to Babylon, is that in our secular
age and what I refer to as the post secular age,
meaning that secular ideologies no longer function as something distinct
from a religious ideology or theology, that now in our
post modern, post secular state, they are operating on equal footing.

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That communism can be viewed as a religious orientation just
as much as Buddhism can be, because they fulfill the
total lighting meta narrative of meaning within people's lives and
become the foundational lens in which all things are perceived by.
So from that perspective, what are going to be the

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two battling narratives for human transcendents, Because that's what people
are yurring for when they're watching Star Wars, when they're
watching the modern Marvel superhero movie. What is the premise
behind all of it? It's the idea that we can
transcend our limitations. And really there's only going to be

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two options. There's going to be transhumanism, where through material
amalgamation you will transcend your biological limitations. And their false promise,
their demonic promise, they're going to say that you'll be
more than you've ever been. You know, you'll be a
cyborg that will be on omniscient, you'll be immortal. You know,
you'll be able to heal yourself, you'll be able to

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do all things. Maybe you'll even be space sparing. So
it's just this appeal that the transcendence is just transcending
the confines of your mortal biological entity. That's the transhuman transcendence.
But my argument is that's going to continue to grow.
Transhumanism is on the rise, you know, despite what people think.

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You know, there's so many people out there criticizing transhumanism,
this transition, and I'm one of them. But one of
the things people don't appreciate is that it is a
compelling narrative for people. If you adopt the presets of secularism,
transhumanism is a compelling narrative for a religious mythos inside
your paradigm. What is the alternative methodology for individual or

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collective transcendence. It's theosis, It's orthodoxy, And so moving forward
in America, the narratives about transcendence, spiritual transcendence, I truly
believe are going to be the orthodox doctrine of theosis
and transhumanism, because transcendence and spiritual deification are not central
cores of Western Christianity, which I already began with, has

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already failed. So Western Christianity is kind of out on
the ends. And the two narratives then that are going
to compete about what it means to be, what it
means to transcend is going to be Orthodox theosis, which
says your biological entity, yes, it's going to die, Yes
it's going to age, but that is part of spiritual growth.
You don't get you You cannot pass through the door

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of eternity without dying, because that's what Christ did, and
we follow Christ. And that is a totally different perspective
than doing anything and everything you can to not die.
You know. In our drama Alert, that was the last,
very last topic that we discussed was Brian Johnson, you know,

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the transhumanists, the guy who looks like he's mid twenties.
He's in his forties. He's a multi multimillionaire, and he's
he said, I have a new moral philosophy. It's called
don't die. Wow, who thought of that? I bet did
you pull that out of the out of the Greek tradition?
Where where'd you find that really deep moral philosophy? His

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whole thing is that we just need to supplant the
myths of religion with a new myth of telling people
to not die. But guy's look at his following like
a ton. Thousands and thousands of people are part of this.
So this is the irony. As orthodoxy grows, transhumanism grows.

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And so my point then is that transcendence is not transgression.
Transcendence in the Orthodox framework is not about transgressing boundaries.
We've talked about this before, about psychedelics, about you know,
how they dissolve boundaries, and that all the boundaries in
our in our contemporary world are being transgressed. You know,
no no border, no wall USA at all, national boundaries,

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dissolved boundaries between man and machine, dissolved boundaries between man
and animal. Really, you can point your finger towards Darwin
dissolved boundaries between men and women, dissolved what boundaries are
there that exist? I mean, you can't even for some people.

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Obviously this is common knowledge. Obviously this is just common sense.
But for a vast majority of people, you can't even
say that men can do certain things that women can't do,
or that women can do things that men can't do. Now,
usually there's less pushback on that you say, yeah, but
women can give birth. I can't give birth. Usually there's
less pushback on that. But if you say yeah, women can't,

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you know, they can't work the oil rig, they can't
do the dangerous jobs. They can't keep society running the
way men can. They are not as physically strong, they
are not as rational on average. Those are just facts,
but you get pushback on that. Common common sense and
so America, I argue, is defined by consumerism, materialism, secularism, relativism,

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and individualism. Modern modern America twenty first century America. You
consume your identity. What is your identity, Well, it's not
your ethnic especially if you're white. You're not allowed to
say that. So you can't say I am European, I'm
a European, or I'm a European. You can't can't use
your ethnic identity unless you're a minority, of course then
you can. But you consume your identity. It's the bro

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it's the clothing brands you wear. Right, I wear Adulta
and Gavana. I wear Louis Vauton, gay, very gay. But
much of America consumes their identity. It's consumerism, materialism, secularism, relativism, individualism.
It's only Orthodoxy that offers real transcendence, a replacement with

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it for the individual, with with community, and that it
doesn't mean that we're anti individual. I mean, there's so
many books written about how Christianity in general, right, in general,
Christianity is already promoting a novel understanding of the individual
within history because a singular person, Jesus Christ entered into

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historic time. I ean individual right, a singular person, and
that we then are to carry our cross and follow him.
We are not, you know, a total collectivist mindset. There
is obviously a role of the individual, and our orthodox
framework begins with our subjective experience with God. Theosis, mystical encounters,

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the sacraments, those aren't definable by science. They can't do measure,
measurement and averages to try to analyze exactly the mystery
that's happening in the Eucharist or the sacrament of marriage. No,
it's beyond those categories. But community is huge, and as
I just said, doesn't have communities. How do you get

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a community in America? You have a video game you
like to play and you meet up with other people
that like to play it online. Is that community is
that a self sacrificial community. Is that a community that's
going to withstand actual trauma and persecution in the world.
Absolutely not, I mean legitimately. I mean, this is the
whole premise of the book Bowling Alone, if you guys

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are familiar, which is documenting bowling leagues and America and
how few people actually it's a sociological commentary, not just
on bowling, right, It's not about bowling. It's using bowling
as a singular specific metric to view communal activity and
essentially the collapse of it of America and how Americans

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do we no longer do things collectively very rarely. I mean,
you ask gen Z, it's the most isolated generation of
all time. The amount of people who regularly go and
spend time with a group of friends is at a
historic low. And so you know, rewind to the nineteen seventies,
nineteen eighties, it was still common for groups of people

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to go do things together as groups. Where is that
in modern America? Again, it's the digital isolation that we're under.
In the digital isolation feeds upon the individualum, which is
a core ideal of the American mind. So orthodoxy is
the only thing that offers true transcendence, community beauty, divine order, tradition, mysticism,

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and liturgical depth, and so in as this number two
point is highlighting hunger for transcendence in a secular stage.
Is the reason why so many young men are looking
for Orthodoxy. And it's only Orthodoxy that provides the correct
prescription to the descriptive destruction that we've already outlined of America.

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And so that's why the second point why or America
is going to be Orthodox. Orthodoxy is the only one
that offers true transcendence. It's that narrative is going to
compete with transhumanism. It's the only one that offers a
community where you actually are responsible to other people, guys.
And I'm going to come back to the community one.
It's the only one that offers a true return back

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to esthetic beauty, and I'm going to return back to that.
And at another point, divine order, hierarchical authority. Men actually
have specific roles that women do not engage in. Right,
Just that it sounds so simplistic, but point to me
anywhere in American society where you can say men do this,

(58:41):
women do not do this. They do this, and men
do not do that, well, just anything. It's so general,
but just tell me anything in American American society where
that's the case. So with that being the background, the
fact that we have an all male hierarchy and clergy,
that is huge. That is huge. So we have true order,

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We have true tradition, right, we have the true Apostolic tradition.
We don't have all the novelties of Catholicism for example.
I mean, Catholicism you could say, is arguably the biggest
competitor to Eastern Orthodoxy, but it's constantly shooting itself in
the foot. I mean as much as the Catholic apologist

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and trad caths online want to try to defend this
sort of idealized crusading spirit of the Catholic Church that
does not exist, my brothers and sisters, but it doesn't
exist the Catholic Church. Really. You see that as standing
up against globalism. You see Krislom, you see Krislam and

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Abu Dhabi standing up against globalism. Your church literally says,
you worship the same God as Muslims. Good luck, good
luck defending your Western Catholic nation. When your church says,
oh yeah, welcome the Muslims, we worship the same God. Meanwhile,
Muhammad just raped your daughter and stabbed her. Yeah, not

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really going to find the appeal. So it's only Orthodoxy
that still has the true mysticism, the tradition, and the
liturgical depth. Number three, the number third reason why America
will be Orthodox is the sacred aesthetics. Obviously, Obviously look
at and we talked about this in the think tank,

(01:00:37):
look at modern American aesthetics. Look at the buildings, look
at the infrastructure. You know, at least I was talking
with the members in the Logos Academy. You know, somebody
asked like, what is the aesthetic of American I would say, well,
you know, if we're talking about the late nineteenth century,
early twentieth century, it's like Art Deco. And I don't
hate Art Deco. I think Art Deco, you know, it

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does have an aesthetic beauty. It's not the Orthodox Church.
But in twenty first century America, what is the esthetic?
I mean, can you really see an esthetic difference between
you know, the USSR and their blocky square buildings to
try to get as many people in an allocated space
as possible. With modern America. No, it's the exact same thing.

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It's the minimalist, utilitarian approach to aesthetics and architecture. That
is America. That was the USSR. It's the same damn thing.
There is no beauty in America right now, show me,
show me where that is. And so worship. We worship
with all five senses, you know, taste, touch, smell, hearing, taste, touch, smell, hearing.

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What's the fifth one? Feeling touching, no smell, hearing seeing?
Oh my God, I'm an idiot, God forgive me. So
third one is because of the aesthetic, and because of

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our understanding, we actually engage in God with all five senses.
We actually participate in the full esthetic and resanctification of
the human figure of the Amago day. We have the incense,
we have the chanting, we have the iconography, we have
the vestments, we have the historic continuity. Now, some people,

(01:02:34):
and this is really aimed at the Protestants, is that
is a form of aesthetic. Believe it or not your
ecclesiagmic I mean, this is the death blow to Protestantism.
If you're doing a debate, if you're doing a debate,
the ultimate death blow you can debate. Sola scriptura, you know,
interpretive authority, all this different stuff. But show me the

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Protestant Church that existed in the first century. Show me
the eclesiology of modern Protestant Church. Choose one that existed.
I don't care if you choose High Lutheranism or Anglicanism.
Showed me the Protestant Church that their ecclesiology was president
in the first century. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.

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And so people find a beauty in the historic continuity
of tradition. And I think this is why we're getting
so many Catholic converts as well. It's not that Catholics
don't have their own aesthetic beauty, because they do. You know,
I myself like the Gothic architecture. I like the Gothic vibe.
I've been to Europe. I like you know, the Catholic

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churches that you know that I've It's very, very beautiful. However,
look at the Catholic Church now, you know, look at
what it's doing in the world, and look how it's
breaking from the historical continuity of its own of its
own foundation, that has its own sort of failure of
a sort of intellectual aesthetic orthodoxy has it. We have

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an historic continuity, and beauty is sacramental and mystical in
our faith. Beauty is a way in which we can
directly engage in God, and it's something that each one
of us are called to to produce. We produce beauty
in our families, We produce virtue in ourselves, which is
beautiful for the world. We are we are called to

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produce beauty in the world. And that's a huge difference
that that that focus of beauty actually being sacramental, right
we we don't want a pastor with his new Jordans on,
with his blue jeans and his new you know, Louis
Veton T shirt on with the gold chain. That is

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not beautiful, That is not harmony, that is not true esthetics.
That is modernity. And so because of these sacred aesthetics,
to exactly John Hammond's point, art is an opportunity right now.
If you have if you are a craftsman, if you
are good at word working, if you are an architect,
if you are a painter or an artist or a drawler,

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or whateverthing you do, if it is an artistic expression,
you need to develop that skill because we need you.
We need you because as we talked about You've heard
me say this a thousand different times. This sociological theory
called the sacred canopy by Peter Berger, it's in this
book right here, the sacred canopy. And to boil this

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whole book down for you, the elements of a sociological
theory of religion is he's arguing that there is a
process called legitimation, and it builds what he refers to
as the sacred canopy, a canopy in which people under
any nation live within. And it is the legitimizing process

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in which we externalize ideas, concepts, heroes, folklore, myths, religion, theology.
It becomes objectified, and then other people can see it
as an object in our culture, and then they internalize it,
and then they themselves externalize it. And this feedback loop,
this process of externalizing, objectifying, and internalizing, is the thing

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that builds a shared canopy of society. Well, we get
to compete in the construction of a new canopy because
the American experiment is done right. There is no shared
canopy in this country. There is no reconciling our differences
with people like Mam Donnie. Even you know, you can
make an argument of why it's you know, it's logical

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why people voted for him regarding the failures of the
Republican and Democratic Party. Okay, that aside people who hate
you as being a white Christian in America, it's very
little space for reconciliation at this point. I mean, when
people are chanting no border, no wall, no USA, it's

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very difficult for reconciliation to find a middle point. The
sacred canopy is totally torn. And so if you are artistic,
you can again be inspired by the beauty of the
Church and then re externalize this to the world as
a part of your own evangelism. Right, you don't have

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to do debates to evangelize Orthodoxy. In fact, Orthodoxy number
one doesn't even It doesn't even spread by debates. It
spreads by encounter of people being Orthodox. Right, which may
be a good orthodox man is in a debate, and
then people are interested in his ideas or why he's
the way he is. But generally speaking, and I know,

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in our modern age, debate is huge, right, All these
online debates are huge for getting people exposed to Orthodoxy.
But the thing that really converts a person is them
actually engaging with an Orthodox Christian and seeing who they
are especially men. So this is an opportunity if you're
an artist. We have the most beautiful form of Christianity,

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we do. I will take a beautiful Byzantine Orthodox Canse
Cathedral with Byzantine style icnography, and maybe you prefer Russian
and whatever, choose, whichever you know, flavor of Orthodox aesthetics
you prefer, and compare that with a modern Catholic Church
or a modern Protestant church. We win, guys, we win.

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We have the beauty, and beauty is an uncreated energy
of God. So that's my third point is we are
the most beautiful option out of all the Christian options.
And when you become Orthodox, you need to take that
inspiration and if you are artistic, express it and use
that as your own evangelism. All right. Number four the

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theological and philosophical coherence. This is where the debates come in,
and this is why the debates are important. The number
fourth reason why America will be Orthodox is because on
an even playing field of ideology, again, we win. We
win by being the only pre modern option. That was
point number one. We win by being the only true

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Christian transcendent option. Number two, we win by being the
most beautiful option number three and number four. We win
because we are the most compelling philosophical and theological option
on the market as well. And this is why the
debates are so are so important in changing people's minds,
because you don't change the mind of your debate opponent. Rarely,

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rarely has that occurred in any debates that I've seen
or participated in. But what you do is you you
change the perception of the of the viewer who's kind
of just sitting there. Maybe they don't have a strong opinion,
you know, like when I do a debate, obviously, and

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the debates that I've done, and I know this is
true for Jay and a lot of our Orthodox brothers.
You have a significant swath of the chat who's already Orthodox,
you know, and they're they're already on the same page
with you. They're on your team. But whenever you do adbait,
there's a handful of people that really aren't on any team.
Those are the people you're trying to get in a debate.

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It's the it's the it's just the the average watcher
who really isn't polarized to one side or the other,
and in that in that battlefield, on that playing ground again,
we win. We win on our historic arguments, we've went
on our theological arguments, we went, we win on our

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esthetic arguments. Uh, and we can even win in a
philosophical argument. So my my point here is that Orthodoxy
is the only one that's truly intellectually satisfying. And I
think for most people who are kind of heads. And
I've talked with so many people, I myself in one
of those. I know FDA shout out to FDA in

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the chat, he's he's ahead. You know, ahead is just
a term for somebody who like, he's a thinker. They're
in their head a lot. They like to read, they
like to learn, they like to connect dots. You know.
That's why people say psychedelics are often for heads, because
people are already in their heads, and so they take
psychedelics because it alters the internal experience, the mental experience.

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But I would argue that the theological and philosophical coherence
of Orthodoxy is so intellectually satisfying, and that was for
me what shifted everything. Right, I saw the beauty, I
knew parts of the history. I was a non believer, Right,
I'm a non believer taking a course on Orthodox theology
and history. What convinced me, and this is why for

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some of us we are so Western and rational, myself included,
I was too rational. So what did God do? He
met me where I needed to be met. Through providence,
I end up in a course learning about Orthodoxy as
a total non believer. I'm not even Christian, not even Protestant,
nothing regarding christian I'm a psychoonod. I'm pro psychedelics, perennial.

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And the intellectual beauty and coherence of the Orthodox parent,
what we referred to as the both and paradigm, was
so satisfying to me, even as a non believer. I
remember leaving that course saying, you know, I'd never be religious.
I never be part of a tradition of men, you know,

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But if I was my god, Eastern Orthodoxy is I've
never heard Christianity articulated in such depth and such sophistication,
and such nuance and such coherence. Man, if I was
going to be Christian, if I was going to be religious,
no matter what religion, it would definitely be Orthodoxy. And

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because that resonated so deeply within me, it eventually brought
me to you know what, I gotta do it. I
got to become orthodox. I gotta start going to an
Orthodox church. Because even before I went to a church,
even when I was done with the course, that's when
I read Saint Maximus the Confessor on the Cosme Mystery
of Jesus Christ. I hadn't read that book yet, but again,
reading that book with all the with all the presuppositions

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that I had formed, I thought, oh my god, this
is incredible. This is exactly what I want. This is
exactly what I'm looking for. And so it's only Orthodoxy
that preserves the true Amago day of Man and his
calling for Theosis. As I said, yes, there's kind of
these doctrines of sanctification in Western Christianity. It's not Theosis. Guys.

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I'm tired of people, you know. I get Catholics on
videos talking about Theosis. They're like, yeah, well, we believe
in sanctification too, dude. It's the same thing. No, it's
not the same thing. You don't have the essence energy distinction.
You don't have the theology of the uncreated energy. Stop
just stop right there. Yes, you have some notion of sanctification.
It's not the same thing as Theosis. Stop stop, it's

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just dumb. It makes you look uninformed and ignorant. These
are different, These are maybe suttle to you, but importantly
distinct paradigms, distinct theological systems. Okay, And so it's only
Orthodoxy that truly preserves the understanding that you and I

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are made in the image of God, with the tilos,
with the potential, with the purpose to become like God
through grace, and participate in divinity and eternity as a
consequence of our willful participation with God. So it's you know,
it's Orthodoxy that understands what it means to be fully human,

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to unite body, soul and use with Christ. You know,
it's only Orthodoxy that can actually give you a full
articulation of spiritual warfare, saying, hey, you know those weird
thoughts you keep getting, you know, how you do X
y z, and then you start thinking X y Z,
And then all of a sudden you start doing the
thing that you said you weren't going to do, you know, allah,

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You know Paul in the epistles, I do the thing
I wish I that I don't do, and I don't
do the thing that I wish I do. Do that's us.
But the spiritual battlefields in the mind, it's the imagination.
Where's the imagination? Where are your noetic faculties? Are they
within space and time? Do they exist after you perish? Where? Where?

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How do you contact angels and demons? You see, it's
the anthropology. It's the philosophical, theological coherence of orthod that
puts everything in place. And this is why so many people,
I guarantee you people in the Chat. Let me know,
people in the Chat when you became Orthodox? Did everything
begin to fall into place? Did everything begin to fall

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into place? That's the beauty of the paradigm. It's just
everything could be conspiracies, could be, you know, cultural aspects.
But once you're Orthodox, it's like you have the correct
categories to perceive everything. Could spiritual warfare, could be your salvation,

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could be the transgender cults, or the LGBTQ mafia, or
the ecumenism that's spreading around all forms of religion. Now
you have the rubric to see what's exactly going on.
So number four, the whole point is that theologically and philosophically,
it's Orthodoxy that wins again in its coherence. This is

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why the tag argument you know, is one of the
preferred apologetic methods of myself FDA dire because if you
actually know the state of contemporary philosophy, it's the tag
argument that's actually dealing with why philosophy has died. And
then orthodoxy is the one that actually provides you an

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ability to defend against all the other traditions. Could be
secular or religious, doesn't matter. So that's number four. Number
five My fifth reason why America will be orthodox the
crisis of meaning and identity. We've kind of already touched
on this, but I haven't spoken specifically on it. It's
that modern progress has not delivered peace in utopia, but

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moral and psychological exhaustion. That's what I believe is that,
as I said, the point of modernity was that it
was going to every generation was going to get better.
Do you, if you're a millennial or agen zy, do you
think you're in a better position than your parents? Do
you think they were in a better position than their grandparents.
You could kind of make the argument that the boomers
were in a better position than their parents, but it

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definitely ended with the boomers. And the irony is is
that's when we had the technological exponential growth that should
be the boomers forward, should be the utopia, that should
be way better than the boomers, but it's not. And
the resulting of the world from the Boomers forward has
been the meaning crisis, the identity crisis. And so, you know,

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our entire world is being eroded. Your ethnic identity is
being eroded, your national identity is being eroded, your familial
identity is being eroded through divorce, through you know, the
sexualization of our society. The intactness and the sanctity of
family itself is being eroded. So if you are an American,
where do you find your identity? Where is it? What

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is it? That's a difficult question for a lot of
people to answer. There isn't really anything there. There isn't
really anything there, and that's why you were supreme. You
buy you know, you buy low quality food or low
quality commodities, is what I'm looking at, low quality commodities

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with brand names to identify who you think you are
because you have no identity. And if you have no identity,
there's nothing for you to die for. And that means
you are incredibly malleable because as long as you're necessary
needs are met, meaning maybe food and shelter, maybe a

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little bit of extra spending cash for entertainment. You will
not resist because you have no foundation to resist from.
Don't you see that This is part of the This
is part of the problem. This is part of the
progress of our society and where we're at. And so modernity,
I argue, equals historic alienation. Why is that Because none

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of your ancestors ever lived in history with the presuppositions
of modernity like you and I do, like our entire
world does. And so because of that, we are historically
alienated from our own people. We are historically alienated from
the human experience of the pre modern world in which
we actually believed in mystical realities. We witnessed miracles occur,

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we saw God work in the world. In the modern
American doesn't live in that reality anymore. The rational modernity
has sort of Clint really, I wouldn't say Clint's it's
almost the detritus has taken over the lens in which
they perceive reality, and they don't see mystery in the

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world anymore. And if there is, you know, we're told
science is going to uncover it, it's going to explain it. Well,
now we are literally ethnically and nationally and religiously alienated
from our ancestors. Where the hell do you get identity? Typically,
your identity was given to you. You know, if you
existed in a pre modern world, your identity is given.

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Where were you born? Oh, you were born in Serbia.
What language do you speak? Oh, you speak Serbian. What
religious are Oh you're You're Serbian Orthodox. That's your identity.
Doesn't matter where you go in the world, doesn't matter.
If you move to China and get Chinese citizenship, You're
not Chinese. Right, So we live in a country in

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America and England. You know, I just saw those going
viral today in Eca that there is a war a
veteran war hero who is crying on live television because
he said the England that I fought for no longer exist.
That this is worse. Essentially, this is worse than the
potential outcome of him not fighting in the Second World War.

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And then you have all these people, you know, these
Indians and Asians and all these people saying, well, I'm English,
I'm English, I'm English. No, you're not. You can say
you have English citizenship, you have UK citizenship or something.
You're not English. And every time immigrant communities come into
a predominantly let's just be factual here, it's mostly white

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European nations or formerly white European nations in the case
of American Canada. But immigrants come there and because of
our magic dirt theory, they are equal identity as you,
even though they themselves will say, no, I'm Indian, I'm Hindu.
No we we throw you know, we celebrate the celebration
of lights in Dwali and fireworks going off, like no, no,

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that's not the same thing as me. I'm not gonna
you know, we can't allow for immigrants to again take
the little bit of identity we even have left, which
is just secular nationalism, right, That's all we're saying, is
that maybe ethnic or secular. In America, it's more secular nationalism,
you know, sort of a white identity majority. But in
the case of Europe, they have real ethnic concerns. You know,

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there's a thing called a German, and a German has
an actual you know, a sequence of their DNA that's
identifies them as German. All the Turks in the Pakistanis
and the Afghanis that are in German, You're not German.
I don't care if you're fluent in German. I don't
care if you were born there. It's not the same thing.
And so we exist in a state of a crisis

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of meaning and identity. And so Orthodoxy is the only
thing that offers, as I said, a pre modern continuity
with the Apostles, our church fathers, and our European ancestors,
because at one point, even if they were Catholic or Western,
they existed in a pre modern world. They perceive the
world in pre modern terms. And so Orthodoxy, I argue,

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is a coming home. That's why we tell people welcome home,
welcome home, welcome to the church. You know, hey, I
just got baptism. Glory to God, brother, welcome home. What
are we meaning by that? That it truly is a
welcoming of home. It's a realigning, as I said with
Cleaves new antiqularly, it's a realigning of our ancestral lineage.
That's how I felt when I converted to Orthodoxy, is

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that my family is mostly of English, Irish, some German background. Okay,
that's my ancestral familial line. They were Protestants. I have
multiple Protestant pastors in my dad's family tree. A couple
of them got thhds, one person had a PhD. All

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of them Methodists, all of them very explicitly Methodists and
promoted Methodist Protestant Christianity. Well, when I converted to Orthodoxy,
I truly believe what I've done is realigned my family tree.
And that's why for me it was essential that I
had an Orthodox wife because by me, it's not just me,

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you know, casually aligning myself with my family tree and
then saying, oh, well, as long as my my wife's
just nominally Christian, it's okay. No, no, no, we're gonna have
We're gonna have Orthodox Christian babies. We're gonna be an
Orthodox Christian family. My goal is that in three generations
when I'm when I'm dead, for you know, a generation

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or two, I want so many Orthodox Christians in America
that have DNA ties back to me and my wife
that we did. That that's something money can't buy. That's
how you win the culture war. That's how you establish identity.
And that's why Orthodoxy why Americans will be Orthodoxes because
it it actually gives them identity. What does it mean

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to be American? It means absolutely nothing. It means absolutely
nothing right now. And so if you become Orthodox, at
least you have now a historic identity America itself. Even
if you just accepted this nominal identity of being an
American today, which means nothing, how long has that identity lasted?

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Not even three hundred years? Not even three hundred years.
We're talking about a two thousand year old tradition and
the nation state of America hasn't even existed for three
hundred years. So what you get as an Orthodox Christian

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is the ability to reconstruct your identity. That first and foremost,
you're an Orthodox Christian. What that means is, now you
have a historic lineage that connects you back to your
European ancestors, or your ancestor where how are your ancestors?
You know, it could be anywhere. The same thing could
be true no matter where you come from. But two,

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it allows you to thou perceive what a true transformation
of America would look like. That we need to make
more Americans Orthodox so that we can have an Orthodox nation.
We don't just take a hold of the power structure
and declare it Orthodox Christian. That would never work. There's
too many non Orthodox Christians in America. The way we

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win is converting the hearts and minds of Americans, giving
them a sense of identity, and giving them a reason
for the resanctification of the nation and what the purpose
of the nation is. The purpose of the nation is
to reflect the will of God in the world. That's
not what America is now. And so with Orthodoxy two,

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in addition to all the meaning and the identity, the
true meaning then is not just the I've talked a
lot about the sort of worldly stuff in regards to
identity and meaning, but the foundation of it is true mysticism.
You see, Orthodoxy actually provides a true mystical encounter with God.
You don't believe me, then do it. That's why so

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people are scared to convert, you know, that's why so
many people are so scared to convert because it's real.
It's real. And if you actually take this journey seriously,
when you're getting ready to be baptized into the church,
you'll see it's real. You'll see all the strange shit
that happens. You'll see the spiritual warfare. You'll see the
people that begin to attack you, the people closest to you.

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Because they're just conduits. They're susceptible to the temptations and
the passions and demons are triggering people to attack you.
That's just one example. But you'll see it. You don't
think you don't think the mystery is real. Didn't do it.
I challenge you, do it. Do it. Then you'll see

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this isn't fake, This isn't some placebo effect. Right, spirituality
is real. There is a real spiritual warfare that is
taking place all around us. And if you want to
actually deal with that, you actually want to be on
the right side of that fight. It's Orthodox Christianity that's
going to give it to you. It's Orthodox Christianity that's

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going to give you the opportunity to re sanctify America
and give it a correct telos. You know that. I've
talked with so many young men that are intellectually convinced
of Orthodoxy but don't don't go to a church, don'tit
in liturgy, and really aren't even on a timeline to
convert and you and really you get down to it,

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whether whether they'll consciously say it or not, is they're
scared to death. They're scared of what their family may think.
They're scared of who they may become. Right, I thought
about this. You know, all the problems and maybe the
sinful appetites or temptations we struggle with, maybe they've already

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corrupted you to make you falsely think that that's your identity,
because that's what we have in America. Right, you like
to sodomize men, Well, your identity now, as you're a homosexual,
everything has to be filtered through that premise, through that prism.

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Orthodox Christianity actually gets you out of that and the mysticism.
The fact that this shit is real actually provides true
meaning to your daily life. Now, it doesn't mean it's easy,
doesn't mean it's easy to do your morning prayers, doesn't
mean it's easy to read scripture, doesn't mean it's easy
to do your evening prayers and attend liturgy and do

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the fast and participate in your parish community. It's not easy.
But the point was never for it to be easy.
The point was never for it to be easy. And
that's actually then leads into my sixth point here of
why America will be Orthodox is because it forms boys
into Christian men, because it's not easy, and being a

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man is a recognition that the world isn't about pleasure,
hedonism and everything just being easy and at our fingertips
that actually prevents you from being a man. Being a
man is tied with discipline. Being a man is tied
with having some sense of work ethic and a purpose
and a larger vision, and being a protector and a

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provider and a leader for your people and especially for
your family. We live in a nation where everybody's a boy.
So many people are boys. We talked about Neotnyotny is
as a scientific term referring to the retention of juvenile characteristics. Right,
you take a pig and you put it in a pin,

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and its skin is white, it's hairless, it has no touch.
You take that same pen, you open the gate, and
you let it go in the wild. All of a
sudden you find that it begins to maturate in a
way in which the skin gets darker, the skin gets thicker,
it gets hairer, it gets tusk. Because now the the
environment shapes the phenotypical expression. My argument is that our environment,

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just like the rat utopia experiment, because of the how
easy things are, because how easy it is to get
everything you know through your smartphone, you can order food,
you can try to date, you can you know your
whole world is through your magic black mirror. Here that
that actually contributes to the retention of juvenile characteristics into adulthood.

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We call that niotiny in animals. And we we have
a population of boys that never going on. And I'm
talking about professional athletes, I'm talking about men with millions
of dollars. That does not define you as a man. Right.
How much money you make does not define you as
a man. The clothes and brands you wear do not

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define you as a man. And when you look at
what what we elevate as celebrities and the ideal people
in our society, they have a lot of juvenile characteristics.
There's a lot of retention of juvenile characteristics. And so
Orthodoxy is demanding. It is a disciplined, heroic Christianity. We

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have a role for warrior saints. This is not passivism, right,
this is not your religion where everybody's a good person.
That's what the Methodist church that I grew up in.
The last time I went to it was like in
twenty eighteen or nineteen, I think we went to the
Christmas Eve service. I went with my parents because that

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was the church I grew up in. And even though
they were becoming disillusioned with the church, because they brought
in a female past her who allowed her golden retriever
to walk up with her to the you know, her pulpit,
which is next to an altar, a Protestant altar, not
truly an altar. But and then the dog would lay down.
And even some of the older people found that scandalous,

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and rightfully so, rightfully so, but I attended that Christmas
Eve service and what was it? Just be a good person,
right Jesus just tells you to be a good person. Well,
how is that going to appeal to young men? It doesn't,
and that's why men are leaving and droves the Protestant Church.
But we have a heroic Christianity that when you when

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you take on the cross of Orthodoxy and begin to
carry that, your life has more meaning. Every day has
a meaning. You have a larger meta narrative for your
life and the role that it is taking place within
the historic context. You know, we prioritize asceticism, hierarchy, masculine hierarchy,

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spiritual warfare. These things appeal to young men right. Going
to a church where the woman up there is telling
you nothing about spiritual warfare, not condemning child transgenderism, not
condemning the LGBTQ mafia. No, just be a good that
does not appeal to young men. But a church that says, hey,
you need to get your act together. Hey you're addicted

(01:34:23):
to pornography. Then shut your damn phone, dude, take some responsibility.
You can't control yourself. How are you gonna be a man?
How are you gonna have a wife. How are you
gonna provide for a family. How are you gonna lead
people when somebody dies or something tragic happens. How are
you gonna deal with the world. Maybe you're not ready

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for the Orthodox church? Right, that's actually appealing for young
men because they said, no, no, no, I want to
be ready. Okay, well, then start, you know, do your fasts,
do your prayers, get your body in line. Right, We're
not here for a superficial celebration. Everybody has to have
an IFBB pro you know, physique, but my God, work out,

(01:35:09):
make your body strong. Learn some jiu jitsu and some
martial arts. Go go learn how to be tactical with guns.
Do something, Do something. A man is defined by what
he does. You can say what you believe all day long,
what do you do? That's what defines you in Orthodoxy.

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The fact that we have a male hierarchy, the fact
that we have asceticism, which is not an ext you know,
it's not this extreme. Nobody's calling you to be a monastic. Right,
most of you, like myself, are gonna be lay Orthodox
Christians and we're gonna be married men. Our role for
the church is different. Our role for the churches to

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make money so we can tithe. Our role for the
churches to make babies so that they we have new
parishioners so the church grows. Our work for the church
is to make sure that we defend it from all
the cultural influence that may try to subvert it. That's
our role. That's our role as lay Orthodox men. That
gives you a purpose. Right, we actually have a boundary.

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I've talked about this with multiple people I've done streams with.
But imagine the Orthodox Church as a perimeter, and you
as a man, once you're catechized, once you're in the
into the Orthodox life, once you're doing the thing right
becoming a Christian man, you take your position on the
perimeter with the armor of God, and you take no

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steps back. There is no compromising on abortion, there is
no compromising on LGBTQ issues, There is no compromising on Zionism.
These are are antithetical to our faith, to our church.
We need you, We need young men, We need you
to become the best version of yourself so that we

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can't succeed. This is powerful. This actually energizes young people.
It's the Orthodox Church that provides that. And so uh,
the perish and communal life too, right. Uh. I've talked
with some Orthodox young Orthodox guys. They get it mentally.
They are into the church, they're brought in, they're baptized.

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I ask, are you part of the community? Do you
are you? Are you participating in the parish life? No?
Not really? Well, then do it. They got a bake sale,
they need somebody there, do it. That's part, especially if
you're single, if you're a if you're a single man,
what time demand do you have right now? Sacrifice yourself

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for other people and you will grow and return of that.
The parish in the communal life offers you an opportunity.
As what we just talk about our communities, you know,
our communities are totally broken. There is no there is
no place to find your community now in America, will
go to your church. Now you're in a community. Now

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offer yourself back to that community. That's real value, that's
real purpose. You know, our church advocates for the defense
of the faith, tradition and nation. Our most churches, our
most churches telling young people that, hey, young men, you

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have a role. Your role is to defend the faith.
Make sure we preserve the tradition. Because how does orthodoxy
how again, just thought experiment here? How okay, we believe
that we have inherited a faith from the Apostolic period forward.
Now we had the councils, we had things that elaborated

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and clarified the tradition and the faith, of course, but
it's the same thing as the first millennial tradition. How
did you get this in the twenty first century. It's
because the lay people and the clergy. But just like
the Council of Florence, the clergy were able to be
due to political and you know, cultural, military reasons, financial

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economic reasons. They were willing to unite with Rome. They
were willing to concede on aspects of the faith for
essentially political reasons. Now, why did the Council of Florence
not come to fruition because the people said, hell, no,
we're not unite with the Catholics, don't you know what
we believe? This is us, this is what we do,

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and this is the opportunity for you and us, because
how the hell is the next generation going to get
Orthodox unless you and I defend it, preserve it, know it,
and then pass it on to our children and they
can pass it on to their children. The only way
the church preserves itself is through Orthodox Christians lay Orthodox Christians.
That's how we do it. That's our calling. That is purposeful,

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that is purposeful. You know, you, as a lay man,
have the have the incredible responsibility of preserving the faith
so it will be passed down to the next generation,
which thankfully all of our ancestors and some of our
ancestors in it, but at least the spiritual ancestors of

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Orthodoxy have done for us. And so you know, moving
from boy to man. Orthodoxy is famous for saying are
you going to be a monk? Are you going to
be married? Now, obviously there's some spiritual grace for people
who are neither a monastic or never get married. But
generally speaking, that's for very very few people. And your

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spiritual father is the one that's really going to make
that discretion regarding what you should or shouldn't do. But
generally speaking, you have two options. You either marry Christ
and the Church and you become a monastic and you
go on the front lines of spiritual warfare, or you
become a married man and you go on the front
lines of worldly warfare for the Church. That's what we're doing.

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That is appealing for young men, and in those militaristic
terms too, that is appealing for young men, and that's
not going to change. As I said, we're only we're
on we're on reason six why America is going to
be Orthodox, and none of these that we've listed are
going to change in the near future. This is why
this is not a trend. This is a true reaction

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to the failure of the West. Uh. You know, our
church has the perfect harmony of the masculine and the feminine.
You know, does the Does the Catholic Church have the
perfect harmony of the masculine and the feminine? Does the
Protestant Church? Obviously the Protestant doesn't they have women in pulpits.

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You know, in a Protestant church, you'll get you know,
you'll get death glarees if you say, hey, men should
only do this and women should only do this. But
Orthodoxy we already have that and we're not changing that
anytime soon. So we have the perfect harmony between the
masculine and the feminine, and we our tradition promotes motherhood.
How you know what, our Protestant churches explicitly promoting motherhood

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in the same way like And I think this is
why the veneration of the Theotokos is so important, because
we can see that the human ideal obviously Christ is
fully human, fully God, but the Theotokos was not God.
She was just fully human, and she is the ideal.
She is she is the virgin mother. And so we

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we support and promote the idea of a virtuous motherhood
and that that is a unique and privileged spiritual role
for women. And in a world in which our demographics
are collapsing because people don't have children, I think that
is appealing for even young women. So I'm this point

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number six is really focused on boys being turned into
Christian men. But notice that if you are a Christian man.
Our tradition then allows for a place that sanctifies and
promotes virtuous motherhood and true traditional femininity. So all right,
that's number six, number seven, and then we'll get to

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some of these super chats. I apologze. So if you
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I'd greatly appreciate it. Number seven, Number seven reason why
America will be Orthodox is digital evangelism. Digital evangelism that
through online content, millions have been exposed to Orthodoxy for
the first time. That's just a fact. That's a fact.

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I mean, I've noticed since when I first became Orthodox,
when you said Orthodox, people immediately said are you Jewish.
Now when you say Orthodox, people say, oh, yeah, that's
Eastern Orthodoxy, right we I mean, as of the latest
Pew Research poll that I've seen says that we are

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one percent of the US population now that just a
few years ago is zero point seven percent. Now we
are growing at a phenomenal rate, despite whatever news source
tries to tell you otherwise. We are it just asked
the anecdotal evidence from every priest that has been on
this YouTube channel has said our church is growing very rapidly,

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and it's mostly young men, but also some young women
and families. Those are the people that are converting. It's
not old people, right, It's not like we're getting a
bunch of sixty year old people converting to Orthodoxy. No,
it's the youth. It's the hardest demographic to get and advertising.
It's the key demographic. Right. The key demographic is young
people because they are going to be potential buyers or

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consumers moving forward. It's not the old people. Protestantism has
the old people. Orthodoxy has the young people. That means
we have a future. They do not. But through digital evangelism,
we have for the first time Orthodoxy spreading to so
many people. And how is it spreading. Yes, it's through

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debates and stuff like that, but often often it's through
authentic testimony. It's through Orthodox Christians talking about their journeys.
I've had so many people talk to me or sign
up for one on ones because they were into the
New Age. They were into psychedelics, just like I was
deeply embedded into psychedelics, did all the psychedelics, did all

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the things that Terence McKinnon requested, took all the drugs,
went to the ayahuasca ceremonies, and eventually I said, yeah,
that's not it. It's actually Orthodox Christianity. Here's why I'm Orthodox. Now,
that's why I created this YouTube channel. And I'm not
here to talk about me, but I mean all often
most of the YouTube channels, it's through authentic testimony of

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individuals who have converted. This is not some institutional marketing
like scientology or Mormonism. Right, Mormonism, you get these weird commercials.
You watch one Mormon video. Say you want a debate
of Mormon You watch one Mormon video, and all of
a sudden, you're getting all these Mormon advertisements on every
video you watch. That is institutional marketing. Right, same thing

(01:46:29):
with you know, send your money to the homeless people
in Israel. Every Fox News or News and Max show
you watch, that is institutional mark Orthodoxy does not have
institutional marketing. How the hell is it growing so fast?
It's through digital evangelism, It's through people articulating the faith.
It's through authentic testimony and organic discovery, which leads me

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back to again point number two, that we are existing
in a America that is hungry for transcendence in the
spiritual or the secular age, and so it's a it's
organic discovery. People are looking for this stuff online and
finding it. That's not gonna go away. It's not gonna
go away anytime soon. And this is why again it's

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going to continue to grow. Point number eight. Now, point
number eight is disillusionment with ideological politics. So here here's
one for you. Orthodoxy stands above ideological polarization. And what
do I mean by that, Well, if you're an Orthodox Christian,

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it's very easy to be very critical of both political parties,
the Republicans. Number one, first and foremost Zionism. You cannot
be an Orthodox Christian be a Zionist. To be a
Zionist is to worship a false religious narrative which is
actually aiding and abetting the antichrist spirit and bringing forth

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the Third Temple and false Messiah which the Jews believe
is their true Messiah, which is our Antichrist. You cannot
be an Orthodox Christian being a Zionist. That is just
a cold fact can't do it. And so unlike Protestants,
in many Catholics, although I would say there's more anti
Zionist Catholics than Protestants, our tradition is explicit. Our tradition

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is very explicit. I know Pope Francis, you know, before
he passed away, he called the Catholic churches there in
Goz every night and concerned about good for him, good
for him. But our church is very explicit with the
fact that we are not some Judeo Christian tradition. Right.

(01:48:46):
You look in the Vatican and Dyers covered this multiple
multiple times. How doesn't isn't the official position of the
Catholic Church is that you're not too evangelized to Jews.
So let me get that right. So many of the
young Catholic men who are America first, which we would

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agree on, are anti Zionists, but the church that they're
a part of tells them they can't convert Jews. How
do you think that? How do you think the Catholic
Church is going to fare in the coming out? Obviously
it's part of the globalist multicultural infrastructure that is emerging.

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The Catholic Church is not going to stand against the
Third Temple, all right, not going to happen. And so
the same thing with the Democrats LGBTQ stuff, and this
is something that you can level. Let both the Republicans
and the Democrats. I mean, the Republicans are no better
at the LGBTQQ LGBTQ question, They're not. I mean, you

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have Caitlin Jenner literally going tomorrow lago identifying as a
woman and having a penis and only dating women and
referring to himself as heterosexual. How the hell do you
figure that out? And that's considered conservative, and you had
Republicans saying we need to vote for Caitlyn Jennifer governor
of California. What what in the same I mean you got,

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you know, on just Republicans in general. Muh. I mean
there's a growing there's a growing sect swath of us
that are critical of all LGBTQ stuff or all homosexually
going on, and it really has no place in what
we can call conservatism. But the is the GOP aligned

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with that? Not really? Last time I saw that the
GOP believed that Dave Rubin was some type of Jewish
paragon of virtue when him and his husband are literally
buying chill dren And I mean it was disgusting. Did
you see Jordan Peterson's recent interview with with I just
saw a clip of him and Dave Rubin, and Jordan's

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like asking him about you know, you know, what, what
what's the importance of motherhood? You know and children really
really developed and they have a mother. And he's like, yeah, yeah,
my husband, he's he's obsessed with about reading about skin
to skin contact and you know, and using formula and
sort of I guess creating a fake breast to breastfeed.

(01:51:32):
So you know, it's like that meme where the dad
put a hole in his shirt and puts the bottle
through so the baby will suck. Confusing it with breastfeeding.
What what? Jordan Peterson's literally defending gay marriage and child
adoption with Dave Rubin and his like latest interview, dude, dude,

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And and you know the GOP for example, you know,
another criticism because obviously at this point, you can't be
a Democrat and be Orthodox. Now, you can be an
Orthodox Christian and be a Democrat by name, but you
cannot be living the Orthodox faith and vote for Democrat policies.
Because number one you can't vote for abortion number two,

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you can't vote for homosexuality and all the degeneracy that follows.
But with the conservative movement, I mean, this is where
being Orthodox can actually give you a new perspective on GDP,
go up nation good, No, it's not what. The health

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of a nation is not determined by the GDP. Right.
This is one of my problems with like Donald Trump
and much of the Trump administration is they make this
false assumption that, oh, the stock market is that record
highs right now, GDP is up, the nation's doing great well,
really because I'm seeing a lot of people struggling. I'm
seeing mass immigration, I'm seeing really low deport numbers. I'm

(01:53:01):
seeing a lot of stuff that doesn't really seem like
America is in a great spot right now. And the
Republicans because of their religion of capitalism, right which again
Orthodoxy stands again, we're not capitalists, we're not communists, we're
not socialists. We are the Orthodox Church. We believe in charity,
we believe in helping people. We also believe in meritocracy.

(01:53:25):
So yeah, capitalism and maybe a restricted sense not this.
You know, I'm a free market capitalist. Have you played monopoly.
Monopoly ends where communism begins. What are you talking about?
Don't you know that the capitalists of the West funded
the communist revolutions in the twentieth century. What are you
talking about? This isn't some a you know, team capitalism

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versus team communism. These things go together. These are again
part of modernity. And and that's why like this religion
of capitalism by the Republican Party. It's like as long
as as long as money goes up somehow, everything's fine. No,
it's not. And that idea is the problem in and

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of itself. There. America is a people. America is not
a stock market. America is not a bank. Unfortunately, that's
what it's become. It's a military bank. It's a bank
with a ginormous military attached to it. That's what America
is right now. But that but that's not a nation then,

(01:54:28):
because no nation is just a bank with people and
the same thing. You know. That's where you look at
what mom Donnie does in New York City. And then
you got Trump and the the Trump administration telling you
that they'll never forgive student loan debt because you took
it out, you owe it. What you so let me

(01:54:48):
get this straight. The Trump administration tells us that the
It tells us that the the universities are corrupted institutions,
that they can't be trusted. Right, they claim that they're
filled with anti Semitism, but they're all leftists, right, they're woke.

(01:55:08):
You can't trust the universities. They don't even educate people. Okay,
I'll agree with that. I can get down on that.
You know that the US shouldn't you know, the government
shouldn't subsidize educate. We need to eliminate the Department of Education. Okay,
I'm in for that. And then they turn around and say,
you took out your student loan debt, you got to
pay it back, And it's like, wait, you just agreed

(01:55:31):
that the premise of the commodity I was purchasing wasn't
actually what I was purchasing. You agree that tuition is
inflated due to, you know, the guaranteeing of the student loans,
that the universities know they're going to make their money
based on the government backing of these loans, and then
you can't file bankruptcy to get out of them. They're

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essentially slavery. It's creating a feudal system on purpose. So
when the WEF says you will own nothing, and you
will like it, talking about the fact that they've already
got you into debt through your student loans, and and
we're we're supposed to be think that this is gonna

(01:56:12):
save us as a country. No, that's why again, Orthodoxy
is above the political ideological polarization. And when you become Orthodox,
I think it's so much you find this freeing ability
to criticize both parties that when you're a Protestant, because
there's this weird mentality where the Constitution is part of

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like a religious doctrine for you, and that America is
divinely inspired nation by God, and that you and I
must devote our you know, we must pray for Donald Trump,
and I don't. I'm not even saying that God doesn't
give us the leaders that we deserve. I absolutely believe
that's a very orthodox understanding. That's the reason why we
should have a monarchy. But Okay, we got Joe Biden,

(01:56:59):
we got Donald Trump, we got Mom Donnie because God
allowed it to occur. That that it's a judgment on us,
it's a judgment on us. But for Protestants there's very
little wiggle room to actually criticize the Republican Party because
you think that that's your only outlet to salvation. The
only way we can save America is we got to
vote in more Republicans. Meanwhile, they literally criticized Lindsey Graham

(01:57:24):
and you know whatever neo conservative commentator. You know, Mitch
McConnell's no longer in the Senate, but you know whatever
neo conservative they'll criticize. And then they tell you, oh,
we got to vote for more Republicans, we got to
vote for more repol How many times you got to
do this. It's like Charlie Brown and Lucy pulling the

(01:57:44):
football away. It's like a really going to fall for
this again and again and again and again. No orthodoxy
allows you to realize there is no political solution. Right.
We do not allow politics become to become the mystical
outlet of our Christian faith. That's what so many American

(01:58:04):
Protestants do is they think that voting in your election
is somehow sanctifying, that that voting and participating in civil
politics is going to redeem the nation. Now I'm not
saying that voting isn't important for especially for local politics,
it is getting your sheriff, you know, getting the community
leaders in place that actually in some way mirror your values. Yeah,

(01:58:27):
that is important. And everybody who lived in a good
place during COVID and the lockdowns know that that's that's real.
Where I'm from, we had a really good sheriff. He
was Christian and he wasn't going to do and enforce
any of the of the social distancing lockdown stuff. So
we were able to get away with stuff. But that
doesn't mean participating in in Uh. You know, the civic

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society of America is somehow sanctifying, like so many Protestants believe,
is not going to happen. You cannot vote your way
out of this. The only way we get out of
it is again is for men to become men and
that we reach a threshold in which the culture itself
reflects the people inside of it. Protestantism isn't going to

(01:59:18):
do that. And that's where I'm arguing that Americans often
filter reality through a political lens. I mean, you talk
with a Protestant and everything almost becomes political immediately, and
we're and you almost have to do that just to
engage in American society because people engaging with you are
coming at you through a political lens. You know, you
wear a you wear something that's pro America or American

(01:59:41):
flag or something that the leftist immediately knows, Oh god,
oh they're a Republican. Everything in America is political. That's
why orthodoxy supplants it. It's above the ideological polarization, and
that's necessary to get us out of this. I mean
this why Republicans continue. One of the things that I

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hate about Protestants. They again believe that the Constitution is
divinely inspired. And then they will say, oh, the liberals,
the Democrats, that's unconstitutional. You can't do that. You can't
do that, that's unconstitutional. Okay, So you agree that they're
not playing by the rules of the Constitution. Yeah, they're
not playing by the same rules. Then why are you

(02:00:23):
playing by the rules of the Constitution. Well, you know,
it's the Constitution. You can't be American without the American
you just said, the people in power that you're frustrated
with are not abiding by the So move beyond the
rule brook because people aren't using the rule book anymore. Okay, like,

(02:00:46):
get over it, get over it. It's not that we
can't still identify. Yes, you know, the Founding Fathers very
unique men in history. It's incredible what they could do.
Most of them were in their twenties. It's amazing, amazing
as a historical phenomenon. But okay, that's where it ends. Right.
The Constitution is not inspired by God. It's a Masonic Deist,

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general Christian document for a democratic republic. That's not going
to save you, and it's not going to save our
nation and it's only going to get worse because of that.
So that's number eight, is that disillusionment with ideological politics
is a huge thing that I think again it's not

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going to stop. The politics are going to become more polarized,
and in a sense that's a good thing because we're
getting away from the mono party right, we're getting away
from the uniparty. The left is becoming more leftists, and
thank god, the right is becoming more right wing. Thank god,
at least what's emerging. This is why the tension between

(02:01:53):
Shapiro and Fwint, tasks and those two camps, and all
the attacks on Tucker. That's why they're happening. Because the
Mark Levins of the world, the zionis infrastructure of the
Republican and Democratic Party. They can feel it, they can
feel it slipping away. That's why Shapiro's literally crying in
his forty minute monologue that, oh, I devoted my whole

(02:02:15):
life to Republican politics, and I'm not gonna let this
slip away. Well what's slipping away, Ben? The only thing
that's slipping away is support for Israel. Ben. But that's
a good thing. So I see the polarization generally speaking
as a good thing for America. But Orthodoxy prioritize itself

(02:02:37):
and supplants politics, and it's above the polarization. I think
that gives you solace, right, It gives you and it
eases the anxiety when you feel like everything has to
be political. Just look at Twitter, look at all the
non Orthodox people, and look how fervent they are and
how anxious they are about politics because they think every

(02:02:58):
little every executive you know, every executive decision, every every vote,
this is what's good. This is gonna make or break
the nation. No, it's not, dude, like, get over it.
Get over it. Number nine, The ninth reason why America
will become Orthodox is that it's about community and not individualism.

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Life is about community and not individual and we are
communal entities. God himself is three persons with one essence.
It is about communion. That is the point of life.
God created humanity so that we, through free will, could
choose God. Therefore, if we could freely choose God with

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the imago day, being made in the image and having
the same free will that God has, then we can
experience love because love cannot be forced. If God loved humanity,
he has to let humanity choose to love him, because
that's the only way that love could exist. Love has
it presupposes free will. And what we have now in America,

(02:04:01):
as we said, rugged individualism wasn't so bad at the
early you know, the early nineteenth century, and the early
eighteen hundred wasn't so bad. You know, we went conquered
territory when in you know, expanded into into the wilderness,
discovered things, explored. That was that rugged individualism. But now
it's gone so far. As I said, people live in

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digital isolation. That orthodox he centers around the parish and
shared worship, feasts, fasting, mutual aid. This is where meaning
comes from. This is where relationships come from. Why are
so many people socially awkward the young men who come
to the Orthodox Church because they haven't been socialized. So

(02:04:43):
many young men who come to the Orthodox Church never
hang out with like adult men. They haven't been teased,
they haven't been challenged, they've never had to compete. These
are just necessary things so that you become a social
a socialized man. Right is that men, we naturally compete
with each other. We naturally chastise and mock and make

(02:05:05):
fun of That's actually how we show we like each other.
It's very ironic. But for so many young people, they
have no social history in a sense. They really just
have never been a part of a community outside of
maybe their home. And for let's be honest, for half
of them they don't even have a dad. And we

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wonder why they're socially awkward. Well, because the majority of
their social interactions are through a phone. You know, there's
one guy in my logos Academy shout out to Nubi.
Nuby is a world class powerlifter and strong man. He's
in the top ten in his division and strongman. He
just competed at the World Strongman competition in Ireland and

(02:05:53):
he was talking about how he had a young man
reach out to him and wanted to learn about lifting.
And he said on the on the phone, through these
text matches, this kid sounded so confident, so assertive, sound
like he was really knowledgeable about everything, like he was
a go getter. And so he set up a time
to go meet this kid and train with him. And
when they met in person, he would hardly talk, never

(02:06:16):
made eye contact, kept you know, kept looking down. It
was all the facade. And one of the things that
shows is just how confident people are through social media.
And again I don't blame this young man. My point
is look at the ways in which people socialize. That's
how he socialized. He socialized through social media, and so

(02:06:37):
he's very confident when he's when he's texting someone, or
he's commenting on social media or or you know, doing
something through some type of technological gadget. But when it
comes to face to face interaction where things actually matter,
where the real world is right, We're not living in
a fantasy when we're face to face anymore. This is
real life. No confidence, no social skills, no ability to communicate.

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This is a huge problem. How do we overcome this?
We get the people to involve themselves in the community
of the parish and the church and the men of
that parish will begin to shape those individuals. We have
to have compassion on them, but we have to bring
them into an environment where we can reshape them into socialized,
competent men. That's how we win long term. American society,

(02:07:29):
as I said, is fragmented, digitally isolated. It's multi religious,
it's multi religious, and has no sheared sacred canopy. As
I said, so in that environment, where do you find
your people? Where are your people? Right? This is where
I take umbrage with the white nationalists, white supremacists, is

(02:07:50):
who would you rather live next to a devout Orthodox
Christian that is, I don't know, from Ethiopia. And I'm
not saying Opian Orthodox. I'm saying, let's say assume they're
Eastern Orthodox. Would you rather live next to an Ethiopian
family that is Orthodox Christian or an atheist, progressive, leftist

(02:08:12):
white family next to you? Which one's more important? Is
it the ethnic connection or is it the spiritual connection?
And clearly, in my opinion, where I fall on that
is the spiritual connection. And if that's the case, it's
about the spiritual connection, well then The church is your people.
The church is your people. You got to get in

(02:08:34):
the community and involve yourself with your people, because there's
where else can you find your people? Where else are
your people? If you're in America, who are your people?
And where are they? Legitimately? Where are your people? You know,
it's your neighbors, it's your community. But all that stuff

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has been destroyed. The majority of people do not talk
to their neighbors, you know. And I'm the same way
my where I live, I have seen only one of
my neighbors, you know, And just based on observation, there's
going to be a lot of differences between us, a
lot of cultural and political, religious differences between us. So

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who are your people? Who's the people that share your values?
Who's the people that are going to help you when
you're in need? Who's the people are going to come
when when a tragedy happens, your wife dies, your children die,
your parents die, Who's going to be there to console you?
You have to have a community. And so the church
is the place where you find your people. That's the place,

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and it doesn't And so in my commentary about the
spiritual can versus the ethnic can, that's not to say
that ethnicity isn't important. That's not what I'm saying at all. Obviously,
there's an agenda to wipe out European ethnicity and identity
in the world. Why is it that it's on the
European nations that are being flooded with third world people.

(02:10:07):
Because it's a plan, So obviously I'm aware of it.
I'm not saying that there is an attack on white identity.
Clearly there is. But when it comes down to community
and meaning, who are your people? And even in America,
if you say it's white Americans, half those people are
not going to claim you as their people. But if

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you become an Orthodox Christian, all of Orthodox Christians in
America will say you're one of us. Now you have
your people, you have your parish, you have your culture,
you have your identity, you have responsibilities to other people.
This is valuable, this is meaningful, and so it allows
for a social stability that you cannot find anywhere else

(02:10:52):
in America. Where do you find social stability? Honestly, if
I had to guess, the majority of people find their
social stability at work. I'm not kidding. That's why there's
so many affairs in the workplace. Think about it. Your wife,
Let's say she works nine to five and again, and
I'm not against if women work, you know, preferably, I

(02:11:14):
don't want my wife to work, you know, God willing,
I can make enough money where that can be a
real possibility moving forward. But let's say your wife works,
so she's gone from nine to five. Let's say it's
a basic nine to five job. Who does she spend
the majority of her time with. Who does she spend

(02:11:37):
the majority of her socializing with? Who does she spend
the majority of her shared experiences with. It's basically split
between you and her workplace. And if that's the case,
like that, that is for their social stability, that is

(02:11:59):
their outlet. No wonder women sleep with the men and
their bosses at work because that's where they feel socially
secure because the communities are all broken down. That's why
getting becoming Orthodox and getting into the church, now you
have a social stability that reinforces your cultural values, your

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theological values, your moral principles, and it will hold your
wife to that as well. Right, I mean, your wife
can't just walk with you into church wearing a mini
skirt not gonna fly at least at my parish, not
gonna fly. I've heard unfortunately, I've heard some parishes allow,
they let women get away with more. But typically you

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can't wear something above the knee. You got to cover
your shoulders, and preferably you need to wear a head covering.
Not because we're subjugating you, but because you as a woman,
and your body can inflame the passions and we're not here.
It's not about you need eyeballs on the pretty lady
at church. We need eyeballs on the kind of stasis

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and the priest and the chalice. And so you want,
you want a community that's gonna reinforce your values. Once
you do find a woman, you need the church. You're
gonna go to your Protestant church where half of them
are feminists, and gonna and gonna tell her, oh, you
know it. You know, it's it's okay. You can do this,

(02:13:25):
you can do that. You know, feminism is really not
bad in this regard. You know, is your husband, you know,
if you're not really really really really happy, if you're
not just really really really excited every day, you know,
you may need to divorce him. Do you want to
bring your wife in a community like that. Look at
the divorce rates amongst the different religious traditions. You're gonna

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have to bring her to an Orthodox community that revalidates
and to use that, to use that sociological term, So
the sacred k to legitimate our values. We externalize, objectify,
and internalize our value. Orthodoxy is already creating. It's the
alternate sacred canopy. Okay. And that leads into my last

(02:14:12):
and tenth point, and then we'll get into the super
chats and I'll respond to everybody. The reason why America
is going to become Orthodox is because this is America's providence.
This is America's providence. Protestantism has already had its chance
and it failed. Catholicism, you could make the argument it

(02:14:35):
had its chance, remember when it had the ability to
limit what was being seen through Hollywood. Right, it was
able to exercise its moral perspective and prescriptions for society
and limit what degenerate content may be consumed through entertainment.

(02:14:57):
But it's a Catholic church. Really, a center focus of
American life now is the Protestant Church. And so Orthodoxy
is the last unbroken link to the Early Church. It
just is America is at a spiritual crossroads. We'll just

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focus on Protestants. But Protestantism has failed. The American Protestant
experiment has failed. The West is crumbling under moral collapse
and spiritual confusion. I mean, that's why you look at
England and you see people. I mean, let's even look

(02:15:39):
at Lincoln. Let's look at New York City. Right. This
was what blowed me away is that women and then
street interviews said, hey, I feel unsafe in New York City.
There's all these men. You know, I was I a
guy grabbed my button breast the other day while I
was walking down the street in you know, mid mid Manhattan,
in the middle of the I feel unsafe in Chicago.

(02:16:03):
And then they got to I voted for mom Donnie's
sticker on their chest. What And that's the moral collapse.
So our culture is morally collapsing in the sense of
how we engage with each other, our crime, everything like that,
the relativism. But then we have people under again a

(02:16:24):
spiritual confusion that then vote for the things that are
accentuating the things that they're worried about. Now, this is
just a problem with women voting in general. I mean,
as we know, but the West is falling apart, and
I argue that the two main pillars that are falling
apart is the spiritual confusion. So Christendom again really should

(02:16:48):
be Orthodoxy, but Christendom is spiritually confused. You literally have
a female liberal Archbishop of Canterbury. You really think Anglicanism
is going to go in the right direction. You think Anglicanism,
the Church of England is going to preserve the English
people against the hordes of Muslims in your country. Give

(02:17:10):
me a break. And that's why in the West people
are searching for stuff. They need something real, so they
find psychedelics, they find occultism, they find you know, the spiritual,
not religious, the New Age whatever it may be, anything anything, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam.
I mean, how many people are you seeing in England

(02:17:31):
like these, these white english people converting to Islam. How
is that happening? Well, one, they have no identity. The
identity of being English means absolutely nothing. They're not Christian anymore,
and so they really don't know what to do. So
instead of fighting the Horde, they just you know, join

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the mob. Why don't we just become Muslims? Pretty easy?
Pretty easy? You just have to make. You just have
to state, you know, make your submission to Allah, claim
that Mohammad is the prophet. Now you start going to
the mosque, start reading your Qur'an, you'r Muslim. You think

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that's going to preserve your nation. And the same thing's
true in America, like we are literally at a spiritual crossroads.
And that's why Orthodoxy is so appealing. That's why so
many young men are flocking to the church to find refuge.
Because we are the hospital, the hospital of the soul.

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We are the ark of the Covenant. We are Noah's
ark in the flood. We are the refuge, and we
are now for the first time in American history, becoming mainstream.
Never before was Orthodoxy a mainstream thing in America. Yes,
we have the Greek Chapel of Saint Photius in Saint

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Augustine from that, you know, small Greek community that immigrated
and unfortunately many passed away. Yes, we have the Russian
Orthodox Church that converted the Alleyutes and Alaska and the
Native Americans and made its way down the southern West coast,
you know, south down the West coast. But Orthodoxy's never

(02:19:19):
been mainstream in America. Well now it is we had
fathered Josiah Trinham on Tucker Carlson's Homage to Charlie Kirk
his Memorial to Charlie Kirk that there was only one
Christian representative on that stream, and it was fathered Josiah Trinam.
Orthodoxy is hitting the mainstream right now, and it's it

(02:19:43):
is because this is providence, Guys. I truly believe that
where America is right now is providential for us to
accept Orthodoxy. I mean, if orthodoxy became sort of a
main line, mainstream item in America fifty years ago, sixty

(02:20:04):
years you think we would have had the converts we
have today. No, It's like God's providence brought the church
and allowed it to be glorified and allow it to
be seen in America right at the point in which
everything was crumbling apart, because this is the only place
where you can find shelter, and so God is using

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this time, I argue to reintroduce the old faith in
the new world. And in that sense, the new world,
if we continue through the glory of God, will reflect
the old world in the old faith of the old world.
And from that perspective, I don't see why there'd be

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any pessimism from an Orthodox Christian perspective about America moving forward.
We are going to win. We are going to win.
We have God on our side, we have this sound,
we have the tradition, we have the history, we have
the theology. The only thing we need is you. The

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only thing we need is the hearts and minds of
young individuals to join the church and take up the challenge.
And if there's anything that I think that out of
the American of mind, the American mind that can appeal,
is that we love a challenge and Americans love a fight.

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And if you want to fight evil, you want to
fight the evil of this world, you want to fight
the coming of Antichrist. We're the only one church doing it.
We're the only one church that the gates of Hell
will not prevail against. So that is going to be
Those are my ten points. Went a little bit longer

(02:21:52):
than I expected, but sorry, I'm a bit verbose sometimes.
Those are my ten points of why America will be Orthodox.
And despite the videos of Gavin Ortland or all these
Catholic apologists, it's not gonna make a bit of difference.
Protestantism is dead. People are not going back to Protestantism
just not happening. The only other option is Catholicism, Orthodoxy

(02:22:17):
and Oriental Orthodox. Oriental Orthodox is way too ethnic. You know.
If they think the Greek Church, the Eastern the Greek
Orthodox Church is too ethnic, wait till you go to
an Oriental Church. That's gonna be way more ethnic. And
plus they're not even you know, they're non Calcedonian, they
don't have the same theology. So in my mind, the
Oriental Church is not a threat. It's not a threat.

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It's not going to expand it's not going to grow
in the Western world. The only way it grows is
through mass immigration. And it's not like the Western power
is going to choose a bunch of Coptic or Oriental
Christians to immigrate, but Orthodoxy and Catholicism, and that choice
is becoming clearer and clearer by the day. And really

(02:22:59):
the only thing holding people to Catholicism is the ancestral
historical identity. Right their parents were Catholic, they were Catholic.
You know, they want to be in the same faith
as their grandparents and their ancestors. I can get that,
but you know, only for a small swath of people,

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our theological arguments converting people to Catholicism from Orthodoxy. Because
we have it. We have it, so as long as
the playing field is equal, we will win. And that's
why we are winning now. It's not going to stop.
All right, Thomas throws in twenty bucks. Thank you so much. Thomas,

(02:23:48):
really appreciate that. Brother. Hey, we reached our goal too.
Thank you guys so much. We reached the goal today.
Really appreciate you all. Thomas says, since you mentioned Orthodox
Christians having families, do you have any resources for autistics
socially awkward thirty one year olds looking for a girlfriend
and eventually a wife. I'm not talking about myself. Why

(02:24:10):
would you ask? Okay, no, I think first of all,
that's the problem, Thomas. If you're socially awkward, you don't
become non socially awkward by reading a book. Where you
should begin is finding a group of men to be around.
Like I don't know, Thomas. Do you go to a gym?

(02:24:31):
Do you go to a martial arts academy or a
martial arts school? I would begin there. You need to
be challenged by other men. You need to form an
identity amongst other men. You need to be able to
socialize with men, because if you can socialize with men
and be accepted by men, you'll have the confidence to
engage socially with women. The problem when you're socially awkward

(02:24:55):
is you put so much pressure on every interaction with
a woman that you become paralyzed. You don't know what
to do, you don't know what to say, your mind
flutters the way the way you overcome. I don't care
if it's the pick up artist or it's Andrew Tate
or what is the commonality amongst all this stuff is
that you have to be a confident man. Well, where

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does a man find his confidence from or his confidence?
He finds his confidence from his competence, right, And so
if you're a confident uh doing jiu jitsu. Maybe you're
just a blue belt or something, but you've been in
the gym, you're around men, you got friends. Now, maybe
they're not orthodox, but they'll help you become a social entity.

(02:25:36):
They'll help you become a confident man. You know, I
think for a lot of young men too, is that
they're insecure with the way they look. And now I'm
not saying you need to be superficial you don't need to,
you know again, like do this materialistic thing about you know,
Supreme Brand or Louis Vatan. No, no, no, no no,

(02:25:58):
It's just about being esthetic. You know. If you have
a neck beard, shave the neck beard. You don't need
a neck beard to be orthodox. If you can grow
a nice beard, grow a nice beard, manicure it. You
don't need to look like a monk. I don't get
this idea where young guys are asking to find a
wife and then they look disheveled with a monastic beard.

(02:26:18):
It's like, dude, shave it off. What do you do
and you're trying to find a wife? You think your
wife wants you to have some nasty neck beard? And Thomas, sorry,
I'm not talking to you. I have no idea if
you have a beard or not, Thomas, So forgive me, brother.
I'm responding to the question obviously knowing this isn't you, Thomas.
You're incredibly confident, social, charismatic individual. But seriously, guys, like,

(02:26:45):
the point is, you know, if you want a wife,
what do you think the woman you're looking for is
looking for? Legitimately, what do you think the woman in
your ideal future? What kind of man is she looking for?
And I'm not talking about the six foot, six pack,
six figure salary man. That's not what I'm talking about.

(02:27:08):
If you're finding an Orthodox we hopefully she's not thinking
in those terms. But if you're confident. I mean, most men,
if they just take care of themselves, are good looking enough. Right,
The vast majority of men are not quote unquote totally ugly.
You just need to clean things up. You need to
dress you know, decent. You know, maybe have a style

(02:27:31):
or something whatever is that you're into. You know, you
can have a James Dean motorcycle style, or maybe you're
more of a swab you like to dress a little night.
I don't care what it is, doesn't matter. I'm not
telling you some rubric of what what you need to
look like. I'm just telling you aesthetics matter. We just
talked about the aesthetics of the church. Well, you're a temple.

(02:27:53):
Doesn't mean you need to assessed with the way you look.
That's do not do that. But just be healthy, Just
be whatever it is. Maybe you just want to be slimmer.
You're not trying to get a bunch of muscles. That
is fine, bro, you don't have to be a bodybuilder
at all. You just need to take care of yourself.
Because if you can take care of yourself and be confident,

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what does that say to a woman? Oh wow, he
can take care of me too. Look how well he
takes care of himself. So I think, first one, if
you're totally socially awkward, you need to get around men
because they'll tease you, they'll make you feel uncomfortable, they're
going to challenge you, they're going to force you to

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respond right day by day, and that will also give
you a sense of confidence. If you're totally disheveled and
you know that you you know you don't you don't
look the best, well then fix that. You know you
don't need to you don't need to read a book. Yeah,
get a job. Make sure you have a job. Make

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sure you have a career. Right, that's where you get
your confidence from. And you just have to be a confident,
competent man. Right. Competency goes so far. That's what I
always tell these young guys is you don't have to
have all the money. You don't have to be at
the endpoint for the wife. You know, you don't have

(02:29:19):
to already have the house in the career. But if
you're confident and competent and you're at the beginning of
your journey, a woman can al she can smell it,
probably literally, but I mean metaphorically, like she can sense
the confidence and that, you know what, I can hitch
my wagon to him because he's gonna get us there.

(02:29:41):
It's really a mental shift. It's a mental shift. It's
not so much of like, you know, the idea that
we need to read a book to be to be
social is very much in line with like pickup artistry.
And honestly, there's there's things about pickup artistry that are
true about a in the way you speak, the clarity

(02:30:02):
of how you speak, the how you come across being funny, charismatic,
not being so tied to women. Right. So, another thing
too is you can't be obsessed with the woman. If
one woman shows you interest, you cannot be obsessed with her.
Your focus in life needs to be superior to that
woman until she commits to you. Right, that's a turn off.

(02:30:25):
That's why again one of the problems all these women
have this avoidance problem, right that as soon as you
begin to show interest back into them, then they cut
it all off, right. I have a buddy that just
went through this with it with the women have this
problem where they'll love bomb you. You know, after like

(02:30:46):
a week or so, they're telling you how they want
to be with you, they're talking about marriage, and as
soon as you start to be you open up and
you're romantic with them, then all of a sudden, they
shut it off. This is a problem with women, generally speaking,
called avoidance attachment, right, so they they avoid as soon

(02:31:07):
as you start to become attached to them, they avoid you.
That's a fact you need to be aware of. That
has nothing to do with you. Most of these women
are broken, Okay. The only thing that gets you through
that is if you're so confident and so focused on
what you're doing, you're probably going to meet a handful
of woman that have this avoidant attachment problem. It doesn't

(02:31:28):
really matter, doesn't change your life, doesn't change what you're
gonna do the next day. Right, Yeah, both sexes can
do that. That's true. That's true. It's it's a general
problem in our in our society right now. Is that's
why dating is so difficult? Does all these people have
this attachment avoidance attachment disorder where as soon as somebody

(02:31:51):
actually reciprocates on the love bombing and starts to show interest,
they shut things off. This is a problem with people
in the modern world because of everything we just listed
with the broken identity, the broken meaning, the broken communities,
the self absorption, the worship of self, consumerism, materialism, and
they really don't know how to form a relationship with someone.

(02:32:14):
So as a man, the only thing that's gonna get
you through the fact that on your journey to find
your wife you're probably gonna hit a few spots of
failure is you have to be so confident in where
you're going. It's the journey that's gonna set you free. Right.
That's the irony is so many men think I need
to get the thing, I need to get the job,

(02:32:36):
I need to get the money, I need to get
the body. That's gonna then I'll get the thing I want.
That's really the false way to look at it. It's
the journey and then doing the things every day regarding
the journey. That's what sets you free, and the things
that you get in return will come. But that can't
be your focus because if that's the focus, you're gonna

(02:32:57):
be really disappointed. Once you get the thing you think
you need. So thank you, Thomas uh Iron Scroll became
a total crew member. Thank you so much. Brother David
James Flood throws in five says the Vatican partnered with
the Rothschilds on the Council of Inclusive Capitalism, pushing the
You and Agenda's twenty three goals. Catholicism is cooked. Yeah, absolutely,

(02:33:17):
that's absolutely. I mean, in the minds of most people,
it's between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and it's pretty clear where
things are going. I mean, Catholicism is cooked. Orthodoxy is
gonna win, guys. That's what the point of to day
stream has actually makes you a bit excited, is like
we're gonna win, guys, we are gonna win. Total Gravity

(02:33:41):
throws in ten says the aesthetic of America at this
point as Walmart pretty much. Bro Seriously, you know it.
It's just that there where in America are they really
building like esthetic buildings, like taking the time to build
something that's ornate, because when you build something beautiful, you

(02:34:02):
spend a lot of work on doing things that have
no structural significance. Right, the style of the windows, the
architecture on the outside, yeah, you could make it more
utilitarian and pragmatic, but what does that say about the
society because we engage with these buildings every single day.
It's a deadness, there's a hollow news, there's a lack

(02:34:24):
of transcendence. Right. That's why Gothic architecture, if you go
to a Western Europe, it pulls you upwards. You have
to look at the church steeples so high. You're like,
oh my gosh, look at all those engravings on the outside.
It's beautiful. We don't really have that in America. As
I said, the best we got was probably the end

(02:34:45):
of the nineteenth century early twentieth century with Art Deco.
And I don't hate Art Deco. I kind of like
the esthetic, but that doesn't exist anymore. I mean, once
you get past the sixties, it's you know, abstract expressionalism,
abstract art. I mean, look at did you see Barack

(02:35:05):
Obama's new library. It's hideous. It's absolutely hideous. So no,
I totally agree with you. Total gravity. God bless you, bro,
thank you for the support. Today. D Murdoch art throws
in five says, do you know any creative orthodox community
for artist writers, et cetera? A place for inspiration, networking, critique,

(02:35:26):
and improvement. No, I don't d Murdoch, but it's something
that needs to be created. It's something that needs to
be made. Just like I have a community of men
and we do philosophy, theology, masculine formation, cultural commentary. That's
what our community is for. You know, that's an opportunity

(02:35:46):
to create a new school community or a new community
explicitly for Orthodox artists. You know, maybe not school because
you got to pay one hundred dollars a month until
you know you start making over one hundred, you're paying
for it. But you get at my point that we
need a place to brainstorm, to network, to critique Orthodox

(02:36:10):
artists because Orthodox art artist being Orthodox is going to
be huge and us building a parallel sacred canopy for
people to come under right. We need art, we need beauty,
We need film. If you can make documentaries, make documentaries
that help us expand Orthodoxy. Could be on anything in
culture that has an Orthodox lit If you make films,

(02:36:31):
make films, if you paint, if you draw, if you
write poetry, do it. We need it. So I don't
know of any Murdoch, but if maybe you're the man
to make it Austin. Detulio throws intent, thank you so much, Austin,
God bless you brother, really appreciate it. Octavian throws in
ten says, in the end, Christ, our Lord wins better

(02:36:53):
to be in his church than to be a lose. Yeah,
exactly exactly, We honestly can't lose. The only thing, and
I should have said this in my ten points, the
only caveat and my expression that we're going to win
is that you're also going to suffer. You know, we
don't get out of this without suffering. That's part of

(02:37:14):
the Orthodox ethos is that to progress, we have to suffer.
That's where that's why again see how it correlates though
with the theology. As America begins to suffer more and more,
Orthodoxy is going to become more and more prominent, More
and more people are going to convert because the star
of the church is going to become brighter and brighter
and brighter as an alternative to the American ethos itself,

(02:37:38):
the American secular, progressive, neoliberal, neo conservative, nation state, military
industrial complex, Zionism, Hollywood, and especially then if we have art,
we have communities, we have parallel systems. We have food networks,
we have our own education systems, we have our own hospitals,

(02:37:58):
we have our own alternate, parallel community system, sacred canopy
all that. So I'm with you is yeah, we can't lose.
But if you define losing as suffering, then you're not
gonna make it. Because we're gonna win through suffering. We
suffer better than other people. That's the whole point of
being Orthodox is we embrace the suffering. Victor g throws

(02:38:24):
in five says for us logical and rational guys, what
doesn't mean to have our identity in Christ? It's been
hard for me to integrate my personality and identity and Christ. Well,
I don't know what you mean by integrating your personality
and identity in Christ. What it means is that you
are made in the image of God. You have the

(02:38:44):
Imago day, and in that sense, all these noetic potentials
that you have, the ability for free will, the ability
to use logic, the ability to love, the ability to
exercise compassion and mercy, the ability for beauty and truth.

(02:39:06):
These differentiates you from the animal kingdom. Right. Okay, So
there's the Amago Day. That's what separates you from the animals.
Finding your identity in Christ means utilizing those skills in
pursuit of Christ. And if your identity, for example, is
say you are a great artist and maybe you're making,

(02:39:27):
like you know, erotic art right now. Maybe that's what
you have a following, and you make our erotic pictures
or something. That's not finding your identity in Christ. I
finding your identity in Christ would be taking that artistic
skill and using it for a higher purpose. Finding your
identity in Christ means finding out who you are and

(02:39:49):
how that contributes to the tilS of the Church in
Christ himself. You don't need to integrate your personality. Christ
knows your personality. You don't need to alter who you
are to be an identity with Christ. It's about a
reshaping of who you are. It's really about a reformation

(02:40:11):
of your meta narrative of who you are. You know,
if you're an Orthodox Christian, then who you are reflects
in everything that you do. That is now finding your
identity in Christ. It's a resanctifying of who you are.
That's what it means to find your identity in Christ.

(02:40:32):
So thank you, Victor g appreciate the support. Shout out
to John Kell became a total crew member. Thank you
so much. John Mudworks said, I had literally never heard
of Orthodoxy in any Christian since until I started watching
these debates. I then almost immediately discovered orthodoxy bits exactly
to my point. Thank you very much, Mudworks. God bless you, bro.

(02:40:54):
Jack the guitar Guy, shout out to Jack. He's in
our logos academy community. God bless you, Bro. Love the passion,
show him some teeth, brother, Well, thank you very much, Bro,
really appreciate it. Jack the Guitar God through in two more,
two dollars, super tech. Thank you very much, Jack, God
bless you, brother. Really appreciate your support. Hope you're doing well.

(02:41:14):
Hope the BPC doing good for you. I know he
just started a cycle as well. Dano throws in two dollars,
no comment, Thank you very much, Dano. Bill Hicks from
down Under throws in two says let's hit that go.
Thank you very much, Bill, God bless you, brother, Really
appreciate that. And Dano threw in another two bucks, so

(02:41:37):
did Iron Scroll. Thank you very much, Dano and Scroll
and Dano said, can't wait to be baptized and make
rest of my family orthodox. Well glory to God. Brother,
glory to God. That's exactly what we need. Mudworks throws
in twenty says, one of the main reasons I turned
to Orthodox, he was because the church outreach rejected any

(02:41:58):
and all LGBTQ ston baby sacrifice, tiny hat support, also
being against baby clipping, unjust war, simping, and kung flu
event absolutely, but and that's my point about the reaction,
because people are reactionary to what's going on in America
and becoming Orthodox. But you can't become Orthodox for those things, right,

(02:42:24):
You can't just be Orthodox for the not saying you Mudworks,
this is the reason why you're becoming Orthodox. I'm very
happy that you and your family are becoming So I'm
not referring to you specifically, but for anybody out there,
Like I talked with a young man and he was
very much becoming Orthodox due to the political convenience of

(02:42:49):
that he could identify as Christian and really just hammer
away politically at certain things. And that's not a good
reason to become Orthodox, because this is a life style. Right,
that makes sense if we're just another ideology and you
can say I ideologically agree with these people and then
through that prism. Here's what I think about homosexuality or

(02:43:12):
abortion or something like that. But those are good reasons
to look into Orthodoxy, absolutely, But then the point has
to be a larger purpose for your life, transcendence, unification
with Christ and God in defense of something that is
absolutely precious. The Church is a mystery given to us

(02:43:33):
from Christ and the Apostles. So once you get to
that point, you know this isn't something to take lightly
at all. And even though you get all that, as
I highlighted, you know we're we are above the ideological
polarization of America. But also you can't use Orthodoxy just

(02:43:54):
as a political outlet, not saying that you are mudworks
at all. That's not what I'm saying. But all of
those events, I mean, I think those are huge, huge
catalysts for why so many people are becoming Orthodox mudworks.
I think you're not alone, bro, you are not alone.
For me, what got me into Orthodoxy was the philosophical

(02:44:18):
theological coherence and the fact that they also abided by
all those things validated the coherence of the theology to me.
And then it was like, Yep, that's where I got
to be because that's what makes sense but for a
lot of people, maybe it is, Hey, you can't be
a Zionist and be Orthodox, and maybe that's a huge thing.

(02:44:40):
Maybe I should do a stream called you can't be
a Zionist and be Orthodox. Maybe that'd get a lot
of young people to click and would set that catalyst
and that motion in place for some of them. So meldworks.
God bless you, brother, Glory to God about you and
your family. Man really really happy for you. Thank you
for the support. Daniel throws in two says hit goal.
Thank you so much. Dan, Oh, God bless you. Silvergar

(02:45:03):
throws in two bucks. Vigo throws in two bucks. Thank
you very much, guys. Octavian throws in ten, says hit
the bullseye, Thank you very much. Octavian rough Hands says,
whooh been a codal crew member for thirty one months.
Thank you so much, rough Hands. God bless you, bro.
You gotta be one of the oldest members of the
total crew. Josiah Elerom throws in twenty, says David, this

(02:45:26):
is truth you speak, the practical application that being a
gentleman is what you describe. You are challenging us to
be men in society of boys. Well, Thank you so much, Josiah,
God bless you brother. Looking forward to meeting you in Florida,
my man. But yeah, I think you know, that's one
of the appeals of Orthodoxes because it's difficult. Men like
difficult things. Nothing in this world is a value that

(02:45:49):
isn't difficult to attain. That, I mean, that's just a
fact of reality. And then men get prestige, status, and
fulfillment by accomplishing and attaining difficult things, you know, like
the super Bowl for example. To take a dumb secular example,

(02:46:10):
it's very difficult for a football team to win the
super Bowl. The super Bowl really doesn't mean anything, right,
it does not change culture. It means it has zero
significance to anything. But men will battle and sacrifice themselves
for it. Now that's a really dumb, low tier secular example,

(02:46:32):
but it shows that this is true for anything, a family,
a career, you know, being great at your profession once
you choose your career, being an excellent individual, being an
embodiment of Christ. These things are really difficult. An Orthodoxy
is really difficult, and in that sense, it's something worthwhile

(02:46:53):
to pursue and try to achieve. So thank you so much.
Josiah Isaac throws in five, says, we need apology jed
X against oneness Pentecostals due to poor catechism from props.
Modalism is everywhere. The UPCI is very big. Yeah, I'm
not surprised by that. I mean, my interaction with a
lot of Pentecostals is they're not really focused on, you know,

(02:47:18):
some of these you know, rational arguments per se. So
who knows if that would fix anything, But we could
do more apologetics against Pentecostals for sure. Gue Best Operating
System throws in five says, how do you feel about IVF?
Can Orthodox marriage participate in that? If conceiving is difficult? Also,

(02:47:42):
what's the best fragrance for men? I don't know what
the best fragrance for men is. I have my own,
but I don't want you smelling like me, so I'm
not going to tell you what my cologne is. Last
thing I wanted is with thein meeting a bunch of
people that have the same coloonne as me. But IVF,

(02:48:03):
from my understanding, this is a this is something that
a spiritual father needs to address with a specific couple
if they're if they're you know, having problems conceiving, that's
one thing. If a woman is wanting to freeze her
eggs so she can pursue her career and get pregnant later,
that's something entirely different. So generally speaking, the churches against IVF.

(02:48:29):
Generally speaking, I again, I don't know of any priests
advocating for IVF. My understanding is I could potentially see
an example where a priest maybe advised a couple who
is struggling in a certain way in that direction. I

(02:48:50):
have no idea, But generally speaking, obviously, the Orthodox Church
is against all contraception and IVF, and I have her.
You know, you speak out very fervently against IVF, even
if you're having trouble conceiving, And their argument is that's
God's providence. If you're having trouble conceiving and having a child,

(02:49:13):
maybe that's God's providence that you're not supposed to have
a child. I don't know. Obviously, children are the biggest
blessing that God can bestow upon you. They are a
blessing of the Church. They're an explicit blessing directly from God.
That's how the church understands it. So yeah, I would
chalk that up to you'd have to ask a priest.

(02:49:36):
I have my own contentions of why I think you
would violate some of our theology. But I'm not here
to give advice to anybody. They need to seek their
priest and do that. Josiah throws intent says, okay, totally
random question. Oil based or water based? Palmade min so

(02:50:00):
people always think my hair is super hard. It's actually not.
I use a little something called lay right lay right.
It's cheap. You can like buy it from I just
get off Amazon. I think Walmart may carry it. But
it's a great. Uh, it's great for manipulating, like putting

(02:50:20):
your hair. So I like mine to kind of be
combed back a bit and have it all lay down.
But I hate I don't want jail. I don't want
my hair to be hard. I hate that. I'm not
sure if it's oil or water based. I would assume water.
I don't know. I'd have to look it up. Why
don't we look it up real quick? This is what
I used. It's called lay right right here purchase nine times.

(02:50:56):
So let's see firm Hoole mineral oil free. It's water
based so medium hold matt Finish water soluble natural matt cream.
That's what I use, Josiah or yeah, Josiah Eleron. I
like it because it holds it in place, but it
doesn't make my hair hard. I don't want my hair

(02:51:17):
to be hard. I don't want to look like I
have hair gel in. I don't want to look shiny.
I want it to just sit in place nicely. So
that's a free one for you. So if you're interested,
that's interesting question. I wasn't expecting any question today based
on my palmade. But yeah, that's what I use. Is

(02:51:38):
it kosher? I'm not sure if it's kosher or not.
Oh okay, so I'm not the only one. Somebody else
says lay right is good stuff. Yeah, that's what I use.
I was actually Jose says war Daddy wax is great

(02:52:06):
if you want stronghold, but it's kind of pricey. I
don't know. I wouldn't mind a stronghold, but I just
I hate when things make my hair hard, don't. I
want to be able to run my fingers through my hair.
I want to stay in place and yet still be soft.
So anyways, all right, let's check out dono chat. See

(02:52:29):
if anybody sayd anything in over there? Yeah, Paris throws
intent says an orthodoxy, you are called to a lifelong
struggle to ascend to God thiosis all others lower God
to fit their lives, and like, absolutely, right, absolutely, that's
why they're dying. I mean, that's why modernism, in the
modernization of Christianity is not getting more people. And if

(02:52:51):
it is, it's getting the wrong people. You think making
your church, you know, putting a pride flag outside your
church is going to get more people. The only people
it's going to attract the people that want to change
your church more, you know. So yeah, I totally agree, Paris.
Soren Mask throws in twenty says Romanian background, here are

(02:53:13):
you excited for the thirtieth November. We're celebrating Saint Apostle Andrew,
Are you doing anything special? I did not have anything
special planned for November thirtieth. I am excited about the
Romanian new cathedral though, the biggest one ever built. That
is pretty cool. That is on my bucket list to
sometime go see. So that is pretty cool. But no, unfortunately,

(02:53:38):
I do not have anything planned specifically for the thirtieth
of November. But thank you very much, Soren Mask for
the generous twenty dollars super chat. Really appreciate that. John
Oh shout out to John Newby, props need to understand
healing within is the first step, and enough people do
this will eventually heal America. This can only be received

(02:53:59):
at the orth Church through the sacraments. Everything else is second. Amen. Amen.
So that's coming from Newby. That's our our strongman, competitor,
member of the Logos Academy. Absolutely the only way. That's
that's why this idea of making America an Orthodox nation,
if it means taking control of political power, then you

(02:54:21):
missed it. Making America an Orthodox nation means we need
to make the majority of Americans Orthodox. Then the monarchy
and all that stuff will flow from it. Right that
everything we want will flow from the fact that we
convert so many people. So healing the inside through the
sacraments and coming to Christ that is the only way forward.

(02:54:46):
And Dano throws an a generous fifty dollars on the
dono chat. Thank you so much, brother, He says, you've
helped me so much. Pray I become official catechumen soon.
I think Orthodoxy can teach men with physical dis disability
to still acquire masculine virtues. This is missed and modernity
absolutely Dano. No, if you have a disability, or you know,

(02:55:10):
a tragic event happened that maybe takes away some of
your physical abilities, that does not diminish you as a man. Right.
So when I say you are what you do as
a man, I don't mean that if you, through certain
circumstances or events, are in a wheelchair, that you can't
be a masculine man. Absolutely not. Absolutely not what I

(02:55:33):
mean by what you do. It's still how you treat people,
how you act, things, you know, things that you do
in the world. So if you have a physical disability,
that does not limit you or nullify or undermine your
masculinity in any any way. So don't don't perceive me
saying that. But absolutely we need men to be We

(02:55:57):
need boys to become men. And the only way you
become a man is through other men forcing you, challenging you,
socializing with you, and becoming something that you can actually
contribute back to other people. If you have nothing to
offer to other people, are how can you be a
confident man? What man a virtue offered zero to anybody else?

(02:56:26):
I can't think of one, right, because I think it
literally nullifies the category of a masculine man. A masculine
man does things that actually contribute and aid other people.
If you don't do anything that helps anybody else, you
are still a child because all you do is consume.
What defines a man in a way is that he

(02:56:48):
produces more than he consumes. Do you produce more than
you consume? I have a wife, I have a house
to pay for. I have to preduduce more money than
I actually consume on myself. I have to produce to
take care of her. You know, I have to produce anything.

(02:57:09):
And that's true for any man, right, I'm just talking
about my specific circumstance. But to be a man, you
have to produce things more than you consume, and that
extra production is for other people. So Dan, oh, thank

(02:57:30):
you so much man. That was generous, super chat. I
really do appreciate it. Yeah. I think Orthodoxy is essential
for teaching men how to be men, and that is
sorely missing in today's society. So uh, I think the again,
when when America sees all the masculine Orthodox Christian men

(02:57:51):
in there in the church, one, you think women aren't
going to go there? Do you think women again. We
need women to sell select right. We don't need to
push all American women into the Orthodox Church. We really
just need to get more and more men. More and
more men become more and more masculine, more competent, more virtuous,

(02:58:12):
more of who they can be. The women follow, bro
That's what women do. That's why they follow propaganda. I mean,
you know Jacquesahlul's famous book on propaganda. I have like
women are more susceptible to propaganda. That's why eighty percent
of commercials are directed at women. Because they control the purse.
They're at home, at least those that don't work, they're

(02:58:33):
at home during the day. The advertisements are directed at women. Women.
When the rival tribe comes and kills all the men,
the women adopt the values of the other men. Women
are more malleable. Women are followers. Men need to lead.
We have to become the men that the women want

(02:58:55):
and lead them into the church. They'll come by themselves.
You know, it's like the field to dreams. Build it
and they will follow. We just have to build ourselves
and somebody's gonna follow you. God's providence will put the
right woman in your place. This is a big thing.
For anybody looking for a wife. Here's the big, big
tip that I hope is insightful. God gives you the

(02:59:20):
woman at the moment. You're the man that woman needs.
Right Imagine the ideal woman that you're looking for. Maybe
she is an American Protestant, virtuous young girl, and she's
gone on her own questioning, she starts thinking about Orthodoxy
and then she converts. You need her to do all

(02:59:41):
those steps so that she's the woman that you need.
Right though, she's the woman that you want. But if
you're not in a position to be her husband, how
can God give you that girl? Because that's truly how
I feel about it, is that if you are some
really competent man in you ready for marriage, God's gonna

(03:00:01):
give you your wife. It's you know, weird providence will
occur and it'll just fall into place. You don't have
to go. You know, you don't have to read Mystery
method pickup artistry. You know you don't have to read
rush V's old books on pickup artistry. No, you just
have to become the man that that woman would want,

(03:00:23):
and they will come. There's too much focus about finding
the thing instead of building yourself. You got to build
yourself and they will fall into place. Last super chat
over on stream Labs, snagglebas throws in five says, I
know that we're in the wilderness and you are showing
me this nice road, but I think I can make
it through the harsh terrain, bad weather and dangerous best

(03:00:45):
to get to the garden. Stop telling me to follow
the ormative path. Kevin Ortland. Yeah, no, that's true, snaggle Bee's.
I watched a few of Gavin Ortland's stuff, and you
know his criticisms of Orthodoxy. I don't you know, I
don't think they're that substantive. One was looking at Theodore

(03:01:06):
the Recluse talking about salvation and the church. The other
one that I saw, the more recent one he posted,
was claiming that we are the one true Church and
saying that Salvation is in the church, but we don't
know where the Holy Spirit isn't is not consistent with

(03:01:26):
the early Church, and thereby we have changed and we've
actually taken more of a Protestant I mean, these really
aren't that deep significant, Like nobody's converting back to Protestantism
from anything I've seen Gavin Ortland put out. It's unfortunate
because Ortland's been invited to so many Orthodox gatherings, just
like the marriage conference for Father Zia Trinum. He's been

(03:01:49):
invited to that stuff, and then he goes back and
puts out like anti Orthodox commentary on his YouTube channels,
Like what did I don't get it. Welding Pro sixty
seven throws in two dollars, says, great work. Really appreciate it. Well,
thank you very much, Welding Pro. God bless you row

(03:02:10):
and keep up the good welding. Sounds like the rumor
on the street is you are a pro at welding,
So thank you so much, Welding Pro sixty seven for
the support. Kingdom says, that's a great perspective. Yeah. My

(03:02:31):
favorite saying is theopon the Recluse the icon is arriving. Yeah,
theopon that he takes a reading from Theophon the Recluse,
and it's I didn't watch the whole thing, so forgive me.
I can't fully criticize Ortland because I didn't watch the
whole video. I was clicking through it, but I saw
he was reading theopon the Recluse in regards to something

(03:02:53):
some treatisy he wrote on Salvation and was critiquing it
from a Protestant perspective something like that. Uh, yeah, welding
is pretty based. Uh. Doctor Chrispy Johnson says, all the
weekend newspaper magazines, middle aged middle class women discover there
lesbian and get divorced in forty Oh gosh, that's the

(03:03:16):
state of the Western world, my friends, that is the
state of the Western world. Why should ortho white boys
either be ashamed or apologized? Why should they? Huh? Why
should why should they apologize? Who asked that they should apologize? Huh?

(03:03:42):
What watch do I wear? It's a Citizen Eco Drive.
It's kind of an old watch. Really, I need to
get a new one, people, I need to get a
new band. It's a super old band. It's a it's
a solar based watch. I've had it forever. Budget Fragrance

(03:04:03):
thirty three throws into what's up with fragrances tonight? Thoughts
on ro Corps. I like ro Corps. I've been to
multiple ro Corps parishes, I know multiple ro Corps priests.
I know that there is some you know, ro Corps
can be apologizing for some people, but no, I like

(03:04:27):
ro Corps. I think real Corps did the best during COVID.
I think ro Corps is a I think it's a
great diocese and jurisdiction to be in. I'm Antiochian, I've
been to Serbian I think Serbians are a great diocese
and jurisdiction to be in. I really don't have much
critiques to ro Corp. Ro Corps is light. O c A.

(03:04:56):
You mean the O c A is light ro Corps.
I'm not I'm not getting I'm not getting it. All right, Well,
all right, guys, that's gonna do it for me. Thank

(03:05:16):
you all so much for being here. Thank you for
the support. God bless you all. Have a wonderful, blessed
evening and weekend. This is Friday, November seventh. Like I said,
I'm gonna try to put a stream together on what
is a Jew? And we're gonna be looking at what
is a Jew before Abraham, after Abraham, after Christ and

(03:05:38):
in the twenty first century. So I'm gonna have to
do some research. I'll be doing some deep dives this
weekend trying to put some of that stuff together. So
hopefully Sunday or Monday, I may depending on if the
research is pretty dense. I have to do another stream,
probably Sunday or Monday, but that is coming and so

(03:05:58):
I'll be doing a unique stream on that. I don't
think a lot of people have tackled that online. So anyways, guys,
smash that like and I will see you in the
next one as always, until then, God bless

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