November 11, 2025 • 34 mins
Award-winning author/medical doctor with 40+years experience in DC, North Carolina and Seattle Patricia Grayhall talks about her latest release “A Place For Us” celebrates the resilience of those who triumph against all odds, drawing from her personal quest to find a country she could legally reside with her British partner long before the U.S. extended immigration rights to gay couples! Patricia spent 2 ½ years at Arizona State University, attended Univ. of Utah medical school & completed her residence in Boston and MPH at Harvard School of Public Health, authored numerous medical articles and book chapters before taking classes in Seattle to begin her writing career plus shares stories behind her journeys and more! Check out the amazing Patricia Grayhall and her latest release on all major platforms and www.patriciagrayhall.com today! #patriciagrayhall #awardwinningauthor #medicaldoctor #seattle #aplaceforus #lgtbq #arizonastate #universityofutah #medicalschool #harvardschoolofpublichealth #immigration #british #spreaker #iheartradio #spotify #applemusic #youtube #anchorfm #bitchute #rumble #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagnerpatriciagrayhall #themikewagnershowpatriciagrayhall
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an author, MD with forty years experience in Washington, d C.
North Caroline and Seattle. Spend two and a half years
at Arizona State University, attend the University of Utah Medical School,
and completed residency in Boston and for MPH at Harvard
School of Public Health. Also author newest and medical articles
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and book chapters, and began taking classes.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Seattle began her writing career.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Talk more about that. She has a new book celebrating
the resilience of those who triumph against all lives drawn
from spoken experience to find a county or a country
she could lee reside with her British partner. The book
is called A Place for Us Live, Place and Gentlemen
plus Deal Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. The amazing author MD,
with forty years experience d C, North Carolina, Seattle, with
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the book A Place for Us the multi town Patricia Grayhill, Patricia,
good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Today, Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it must be your accent.
But it's gray Hall.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Gray Hall, Okay, all right, So okay, So I guess
it must be an accent. I guess I have to
correct my Canadians too. So I guess if we're around
Canadians for too long, I guess say that's.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, Patricia.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So anyway, you're an author MD, a forty years experience
in d C, North Carolina and Seattle. You I'll spend
two years at two and a half at Azona State University,
attended University of Utah Medical School, complete residency and Boston
and MPH at Harvard School of Public Health, and also
attended numerous and your author numerous and medical articles, book chapters,
(03:15):
and began taking classes in Seattle to begin your writing career.
You have a new book out which celebrates the resilience
of those who triumph against all the odds, drawn from
your personal experience to find a country you could lead
your reside with your British partner, long after the four
US called extend the immigration status. The book is called
A Place for Us for getting Oli Patricia tell Us.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I first got.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Started, okay, I will so I was. It was during
the pandemic, actually, and my partner and I were downsizing
and we had a big fire going in the burn
barrel ooh, throwing in all our you know, old tax
returns and documents. And I started to I had a
box that I hadn't looked at for forty years. It
(03:59):
was full in journal also, and I I was about
to toss it, and I thought, no, I really should
look at this, and I did, and I thought, gosh,
you know, this is kind of historical because I got
into medical school before titled line before that guaranteed equal
access of women to education. And also before at a
(04:24):
time when it was pretty much all male. My class
it was ninety five percent men. And during a time
when being gay or lesbian was you had to hide
your identity. It was also before Rob V. Wade and
(04:45):
which became an issue, you know, in some of my
medical experiences. So I took classes at Hugo House in
Seattle and formed a critique group and got into a
six month memoir writing class or class. Yeah, and had
(05:06):
a mentor who also happened to be a publisher who,
after I completed a draft of my memoir, asked if
I'd like to publish it. So that's how I got
into how I got into writing. And that book, Making
the Rounds got a lot of awards and it was
one of a starred Kirkus's view and it is one
(05:30):
of Kirkus's best one hundred Indie books of twenty twenty two.
So that gave me a lot of encouragement. But really
did it for me was the feedback that I got
from readers who said, Wow, I thought I was the
only one who had these kind of experiences. You know,
(05:50):
I could see myself in your story and they felt
less alone and that warmed my heart. But then said
then they said, so what happened next? So you know,
is there going to be a sequel? And I, I
really didn't think I had another memoir in may be, because
(06:13):
the first one was pretty wrenching, going through really my
fairly brutal medical training, through medical school and two specialties,
and then the it just you know, my personal life
at the time, which was fairly chaotic. But you know,
(06:35):
I I thought, I'm at the time, I'm in my
early seventies, I have had a lot of experiences, I
had made a lot of mistakes, learned from those mistakes,
and I have a treasure trove of stories. And one
of the more dramatic ones was how I had to
(06:59):
immigrate to Canada in order to be with my British
partner in two thousand and three at a time when
no country, when we couldn't live together legally in our
home countries, and we in Canada had passed a law
the previous year for the first time recognizing same sets
(07:20):
couples for immigration, but you had to show that you
had lived together as conjugal partners for a year, and
of course we couldn't do that because we had we
couldn't live together in either of our home countries. So
that was a conundrum that serves to provide some suspenseful
(07:43):
scenes in my new novel, A Place for Us.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, And how'd you first meet your partner?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Well, we first met in nineteen eighty one in a
London pub when I was on my way to Geneva
for a who uh conference and that started a brief
but intense, really affair essentially, but we couldn't, you know,
(08:13):
go further with it because because of you know, ambitions
and the bast ocean and immigration barriers. So and I
should say that the characters in the book A Place
for Us are not me and they're not my partner,
and the excess in the book, which provides some of
(08:35):
the drama, are also are also fictional. So what I do?
I you know, it's it's auto fiction. So I do
on my own life for the immigration drama. But yeah,
auto fiction allows me to go beyond my own experience
(08:55):
to explore some of the big, messy issues that affect
us all, not just the queer community.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And what was that one exact, precise moment that simply
influenced you into what you do in the rest of
your career?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
What influenced me in your in your write in your
writing career?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So I'm sorry, I could you repeat that now?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
As I was that one exact, percise moment that simply
influenced you into what you're doing for the rest of
your career.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Oh well, you know it was that moment when I
didn't throw my journals into the burn barrel. Okay, yeah,
and realized that I had a lot of good stories
to tell.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Okay. And who are some of your favorite authors and
writers growing up?
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Well, I just finished Demon Copperfield by Barbara King Sliver,
which is an amazing book. It did get a Pulitzer
Prise and her is just amazing. I'm always impressed with
people who can take on the voice of, you know,
(10:09):
another person very different from themselves. She writes from the
perspective of a young man. Uh and in Appalachia. Okay,
So that's my most recent favorite book.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Okay.
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You're here, the amazing author and MD you experience forty
years in DC, North Carolina, Seattle, Patricia Grayhall here on
The Mike Winners Show, and let's quickly go about your
journey four years experience going in DC, North Carolina and Seattle.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Tell us about your journey.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Well, you know, as I said, it began when I
was going through some journals and I came across that
I had come across hadn't looked at for forty years,
and I realized that I had a lot of good
material for writing. And so I.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Also referend to your journey about being an MD.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Oh, well I did. I had two and a half
years of college and I applied to medical school a
number of medical schools, and I got into university of Utah.
So I was one of five women at that time. Okay,
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nineteen seventy one, and this was before, as they said,
Title nine increased the number of women that got into
medical school. But I, you know, I was pretty much
a minority. I was a woman, I was a lesbian,
(14:24):
and I was not Mormon.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
So it was Ah, that's a connection right there.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So I get that. And what first inspired you become
a doctor at the time.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Well, my grandfather was a doctor and he in a
small town on the coast of Washington State, and he
delivered over four thousand babies. He was the only doctor
in a small town. And yeah, he was also would
ride up the Wenucci River and scrape fallen loggers off
(15:03):
the ground and try to try to fix them on
the spot. I mean, he did surgery, he did obstetrics,
he did everything. Wow, Okay, and I didn't. He died
when I was quite young, but I continued to hear
stories about him. And also I just loved science and
(15:28):
and UH and biology and UH and physiology, and I
thought it was just fascinating. So medical school for me
was was really despite being such a minority, was a
wonderful experience.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Actually, MM hmm, and certainly does as well too that
you also adventure into writing as well too, and I
think we also had was a defying norms and also
love and mess and tell us more about that.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well, that was my first book, the memoir, and it
was not only did it describe my fairly grueling experience
in training and not only in medical school but in residency,
but also my fairly difficult personal life as I was
(16:20):
trying to figure out what I wanted in relationship, and
so I was pretty honest and describing all that, which
is easier to do when it's fifty years ago. It's
like writing about another person. And also readers really appreciate
(16:43):
it when you tell the truth and you're honest. They
can tell when you're not, and I think that's how
you cant really connect with readers. And as I said,
I got a lot of positive feedback from that, not
only from critics and lots in several awards and being
(17:03):
among Kirkis's best one hundred books of twenty two indie books,
but also the feedback from readers who said, you know
that they were amazed, you know that they were not
the only one who had these kind of experiences. That
they felt validated and less alone, So that was what
(17:26):
really made it worthwhile for me.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It sounds like things will open up as well too.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And also Golden Years and Server Lines, I think we
tested that, maybe very briefly.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A bit more about the book as well.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah, well, Golden Years and Silver Linings wass a book
I wrote with my partner And it came about because
when I was writing making the Rounds, I was sitting
there at the computer with my back to her writing
about my old girlfriends, which didn't go down very well.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It's not you, it's me not.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
So I suggested we write a book together, and we
did and it was great fun. And that resulted in
that book, which is a fairly light romance and came
before my current book was A Place for Us, which
is basically a romance at its core, but it's also
a meditation on belonging and finding your home, not just
(18:25):
in a physical sense, but with somebody who truly understands
and cherishes you.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
And maybe think too, that you guys met and first
met in nineteen eight one, how did you guys still
manage to communicate at the time? You know, obviously it
was no internet, and you know, you know, long distance
was probably like maybe a gut like maybe a hundred
bucks like a minute or something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Back in the day. How'd you guys still manage to communicate?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Yeah, we're neither one of us were flushed with cash,
so it wasn't There weren't a lot of long distance
plane rides, but mostly by long letters, which I still
have actually, and also you know the occasional long distance
phone call. But we didn't actually see each other again
for twenty two years and that's where most of the
(19:13):
book is based in two thousand and three. And again
it is fiction. You know, the the meat part and
the immigration part is pretty much based on our experience.
But a lot of the drama, you know in the
in the midst of the book is all fictional.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
M and certainly as well too.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And you got two characters in there, Joe and also
Worn as well. Both go in separate ways or just
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Heard Me.
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Rebecca author Patricia Gray Hall, he and Mike Whiners show
with a Place for Us, And this also involves with Joe,
a driven environmental attorney built being DC, and Lauren a
spurty young woman from Britain on journey of self discovery,
and you know, just fast forward and everything else, you
guys pretty much went all over, like what San Francisco,
(22:21):
you send me National Park? And of course you guys
had different aspirations, which you know, in a sense kind
of we're in line, but sense also collided.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well, these are fictional characters, Joe and Lauren, but they
do meet again after twenty two years, and at the
time they both have partners already and difficult relationships that
have their problems and which they have to deal with
and unwind because they find themselves wanting to be with
(22:55):
each other once again. So the leads to the major conundrum,
which is finding a place because they can't really live
together legally in either of their home countries. And you know,
(23:16):
so much of the suspense and drama is how they work.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That out, Okay, And I think that's really important as well,
maybe so many other challenges like say with doing landlords,
dealing with what was it, trying to find a place,
everything like that. So it's like I'm just trying to
see It's like, you know, how is this going against
(23:42):
and how do you manage to overcome? I mean, I'm
just thinking right now, it's like, how can you overcome
without getting a place to live?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
First of all, well, it had nothing to do with landlords.
It was just you know, the immigration systems at the time.
I mean now it's only been since twenty fifty twenty
thirteen that the US has recognized same sex couples for immigration,
and Canada did since two thousand and two, so and
(24:16):
I don't remember when the UK started doing that. But anyway,
in two thousand and three, it was not an option
in the US or the UK.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Okay, what about some other countries like say Australia or France,
Germany or even like say go out to like you know,
like China, Japan or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Have you guys liked that other.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Countries where they still allow same SEXU or was it
like the along the lines that or was just as difficult?
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Well, I mean currently there's probably I don't know five
or thirty countries that do recognize same sex for immigration,
but at that time it was far fewer. I don't
really know, but I'm sure sure it's not recognized in
China and in India and some other countries. I mean,
(25:08):
it's just obviously difficult now in the United States, you know,
to immigrate as a couple same sex people have to
have been married in their country of origin, and there's
only about twenty five countries in which that's possible, most
of them Western countries. So you know, people coming from
(25:33):
China or India, you know, Pakistan, you know, are just
up the creek.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Right exactly, And of course it's important to be visible.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
There's still an ongoing fight.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And how much work do you think still needs to
be done?
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Well, right now, you know a lot of work needs
to be done because the rights and freedoms that LGBT
people have taken it for granted, the young people for
most of their lives are being threatened. And so I
(26:11):
think this is Pride Month, And the original purpose of
Pride was to serve as a platform for activism, to
call attention to discrimination, violence, and legislative issues affecting the
LBGTQ community. And although in recent years it's become a
(26:34):
big celebration with lots of corporate sponsors, you know. Currently,
with the backlash that's happening now, I think that it's
probably should go back to its original purpose.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It goes way back history too of get women as well.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
How far do you think back your ghosts.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
There's always been gay women or lesbians always, you know,
it's just how visible they are depends on how the
you know, acceptance by society. And certainly in recent years
there was a Gallup poll showing that at least among
(27:20):
young people, the percentage has gone way up, and part
of that is just greater acceptance. In the older demographic
it's quite low, which reflects the lack of acceptance in certainly.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
It sounds like there's pretty much a wide gap to
the whole thing as well. And June twenty eighth is
being the most significant and tell us why June twenty
eighth is significant for you.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
So June twenty eighth was the Stonewall uprising when a
club in New York City was raided by the police
for the in thousandth time, and the patrons just got
fed up with it and resisted, and it went on
(28:10):
for days and it was kind of like the first
time that well that they had fought back, and so
that was commemorated with gay Pride marches the following year
nineteen seventy in New York City and then it just continued.
Every year on the twenty eighth of June is commemorated
(28:36):
of that uprising and the pride. I guess that was
shown by those resistors.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Also maybe think what happened.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I'm trying to think one maybe five ten years ago
somewhere on there the nightclub shooting in Orlando.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
That's another significant mark.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Yeah, I don't think that's celebrated.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
This is another landmark as or reminder too, So just.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
A reminder that you know the world is still quite
unsafe for marginalized people of all kinds.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Really, Okay, and also lastly as well too, and how
do people get a hold of you? How do people
get a hold of your book and everything?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Best way is probably either to visit my website at
Wwpatricia Grayhall dot com. And so it's my books are
available through Simon and Schuster everywhere where books are sold
in ebook, print or audiobook form.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Okay, And what's your website again.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
It's just Patricia Grayhall dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
All right, well, certainly check that out.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
We're here's the amazing author, Patricia Grayhall of a place
for us here on the Mike Wadner Show, and a
few more things.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
What else can we expect from you? Twenty twenty five
and beyond.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Oh, I'm writing a thriller.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Now, nice, Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It's just about it's pretty much finished. It's it is
again Joe the environmental attorney and a physician who are
up against the environmental crimes of big oil, and one
of them gets arrested for bank robbery and was probably framed.
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So it was that's that's the next book.
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Sounds like, yeah, it's a flavor of that. That sounds
like we're looking forward to that. Who do you consider
biggest influence in the career?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Oh, which career?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Just any any career anything?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Yeah, Well, I guess, uh, you know, for my medical career,
my mother who always encouraged me to you know, do
do well in school and and just always supported my
continueing on to go to medical school and stuff. Also
(31:06):
for my writing career, I would say my original writing
coach who turned out to also be my publisher.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So okay, that sounds like a really good one. What's
the best advice you can give to anybody at this point,
to anybody wants to write just in general?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Well, I'm just that I don't know, just that love
is love and will prevail.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Okay, now I think that's a really good point as well.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
We're here with author Patricia Grayhall of a place for
us here on the Mike Waders Show. Patricia, a very
big thank you, DNA. You've been absolutely fantastic, learning a lot,
looking forward him soon keeps up today, keep in touch
with lave. I'd be back with your website. How do
people contact you? Wearing people purchase or check out your
books website?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Oh it's Patricia Grayhall dot com.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
All right, we'll certainly check that out once you get. Patricia,
A very big if you time. If you've been absent,
fantastic looking forehead. Soon, keeps up today, keep in touch,
live at your back. We wish I'll best and Patricia,
you definitely have a great fit chet you great thank you.
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Seattle began her writing career.
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Talk more about that. She has a new book celebrating
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the book A Place for Us the multi town Patricia Grayhill, Patricia,
good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Today, Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it must be your accent.
But it's gray Hall.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Gray Hall, Okay, all right, So okay, So I guess
it must be an accent. I guess I have to
correct my Canadians too. So I guess if we're around
Canadians for too long, I guess say that's.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, Patricia.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So anyway, you're an author MD, a forty years experience
in d C, North Carolina and Seattle. You I'll spend
two years at two and a half at Azona State University,
attended University of Utah Medical School, complete residency and Boston
and MPH at Harvard School of Public Health, and also
attended numerous and your author numerous and medical articles, book chapters,
(03:15):
and began taking classes in Seattle to begin your writing career.
You have a new book out which celebrates the resilience
of those who triumph against all the odds, drawn from
your personal experience to find a country you could lead
your reside with your British partner, long after the four
US called extend the immigration status. The book is called
A Place for Us for getting Oli Patricia tell Us.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I first got.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Started, okay, I will so I was. It was during
the pandemic, actually, and my partner and I were downsizing
and we had a big fire going in the burn
barrel ooh, throwing in all our you know, old tax
returns and documents. And I started to I had a
box that I hadn't looked at for forty years. It
(03:59):
was full in journal also, and I I was about
to toss it, and I thought, no, I really should
look at this, and I did, and I thought, gosh,
you know, this is kind of historical because I got
into medical school before titled line before that guaranteed equal
access of women to education. And also before at a
(04:24):
time when it was pretty much all male. My class
it was ninety five percent men. And during a time
when being gay or lesbian was you had to hide
your identity. It was also before Rob V. Wade and
(04:45):
which became an issue, you know, in some of my
medical experiences. So I took classes at Hugo House in
Seattle and formed a critique group and got into a
six month memoir writing class or class. Yeah, and had
(05:06):
a mentor who also happened to be a publisher who,
after I completed a draft of my memoir, asked if
I'd like to publish it. So that's how I got
into how I got into writing. And that book, Making
the Rounds got a lot of awards and it was
one of a starred Kirkus's view and it is one
(05:30):
of Kirkus's best one hundred Indie books of twenty twenty two.
So that gave me a lot of encouragement. But really
did it for me was the feedback that I got
from readers who said, Wow, I thought I was the
only one who had these kind of experiences. You know,
(05:50):
I could see myself in your story and they felt
less alone and that warmed my heart. But then said
then they said, so what happened next? So you know,
is there going to be a sequel? And I, I
really didn't think I had another memoir in may be, because
(06:13):
the first one was pretty wrenching, going through really my
fairly brutal medical training, through medical school and two specialties,
and then the it just you know, my personal life
at the time, which was fairly chaotic. But you know,
(06:35):
I I thought, I'm at the time, I'm in my
early seventies, I have had a lot of experiences, I
had made a lot of mistakes, learned from those mistakes,
and I have a treasure trove of stories. And one
of the more dramatic ones was how I had to
(06:59):
immigrate to Canada in order to be with my British
partner in two thousand and three at a time when
no country, when we couldn't live together legally in our
home countries, and we in Canada had passed a law
the previous year for the first time recognizing same sets
(07:20):
couples for immigration, but you had to show that you
had lived together as conjugal partners for a year, and
of course we couldn't do that because we had we
couldn't live together in either of our home countries. So
that was a conundrum that serves to provide some suspenseful
(07:43):
scenes in my new novel, A Place for Us.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, And how'd you first meet your partner?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Well, we first met in nineteen eighty one in a
London pub when I was on my way to Geneva
for a who uh conference and that started a brief
but intense, really affair essentially, but we couldn't, you know,
(08:13):
go further with it because because of you know, ambitions
and the bast ocean and immigration barriers. So and I
should say that the characters in the book A Place
for Us are not me and they're not my partner,
and the excess in the book, which provides some of
(08:35):
the drama, are also are also fictional. So what I do?
I you know, it's it's auto fiction. So I do
on my own life for the immigration drama. But yeah,
auto fiction allows me to go beyond my own experience
(08:55):
to explore some of the big, messy issues that affect
us all, not just the queer community.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And what was that one exact, precise moment that simply
influenced you into what you do in the rest of
your career?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
What influenced me in your in your write in your
writing career?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So I'm sorry, I could you repeat that now?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
As I was that one exact, percise moment that simply
influenced you into what you're doing for the rest of
your career.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Oh well, you know it was that moment when I
didn't throw my journals into the burn barrel. Okay, yeah,
and realized that I had a lot of good stories
to tell.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Okay. And who are some of your favorite authors and
writers growing up?
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Well, I just finished Demon Copperfield by Barbara King Sliver,
which is an amazing book. It did get a Pulitzer
Prise and her is just amazing. I'm always impressed with
people who can take on the voice of, you know,
(10:09):
another person very different from themselves. She writes from the
perspective of a young man. Uh and in Appalachia. Okay,
So that's my most recent favorite book.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
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journey four years experience going in DC, North Carolina and Seattle.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Tell us about your journey.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Well, you know, as I said, it began when I
was going through some journals and I came across that
I had come across hadn't looked at for forty years,
and I realized that I had a lot of good
material for writing. And so I.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Also referend to your journey about being an MD.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Oh, well I did. I had two and a half
years of college and I applied to medical school a
number of medical schools, and I got into university of Utah.
So I was one of five women at that time. Okay,
(14:01):
nineteen seventy one, and this was before, as they said,
Title nine increased the number of women that got into
medical school. But I, you know, I was pretty much
a minority. I was a woman, I was a lesbian,
(14:24):
and I was not Mormon.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
So it was Ah, that's a connection right there.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So I get that. And what first inspired you become
a doctor at the time.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Well, my grandfather was a doctor and he in a
small town on the coast of Washington State, and he
delivered over four thousand babies. He was the only doctor
in a small town. And yeah, he was also would
ride up the Wenucci River and scrape fallen loggers off
(15:03):
the ground and try to try to fix them on
the spot. I mean, he did surgery, he did obstetrics,
he did everything. Wow, Okay, and I didn't. He died
when I was quite young, but I continued to hear
stories about him. And also I just loved science and
(15:28):
and UH and biology and UH and physiology, and I
thought it was just fascinating. So medical school for me
was was really despite being such a minority, was a
wonderful experience.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Actually, MM hmm, and certainly does as well too that
you also adventure into writing as well too, and I
think we also had was a defying norms and also
love and mess and tell us more about that.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well, that was my first book, the memoir, and it
was not only did it describe my fairly grueling experience
in training and not only in medical school but in residency,
but also my fairly difficult personal life as I was
(16:20):
trying to figure out what I wanted in relationship, and
so I was pretty honest and describing all that, which
is easier to do when it's fifty years ago. It's
like writing about another person. And also readers really appreciate
(16:43):
it when you tell the truth and you're honest. They
can tell when you're not, and I think that's how
you cant really connect with readers. And as I said,
I got a lot of positive feedback from that, not
only from critics and lots in several awards and being
(17:03):
among Kirkis's best one hundred books of twenty two indie books,
but also the feedback from readers who said, you know
that they were amazed, you know that they were not
the only one who had these kind of experiences. That
they felt validated and less alone, So that was what
(17:26):
really made it worthwhile for me.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It sounds like things will open up as well too.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And also Golden Years and Server Lines, I think we
tested that, maybe very briefly.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A bit more about the book as well.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah, well, Golden Years and Silver Linings wass a book
I wrote with my partner And it came about because
when I was writing making the Rounds, I was sitting
there at the computer with my back to her writing
about my old girlfriends, which didn't go down very well.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It's not you, it's me not.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
So I suggested we write a book together, and we
did and it was great fun. And that resulted in
that book, which is a fairly light romance and came
before my current book was A Place for Us, which
is basically a romance at its core, but it's also
a meditation on belonging and finding your home, not just
(18:25):
in a physical sense, but with somebody who truly understands
and cherishes you.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
And maybe think too, that you guys met and first
met in nineteen eight one, how did you guys still
manage to communicate at the time? You know, obviously it
was no internet, and you know, you know, long distance
was probably like maybe a gut like maybe a hundred
bucks like a minute or something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Back in the day. How'd you guys still manage to communicate?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Yeah, we're neither one of us were flushed with cash,
so it wasn't There weren't a lot of long distance
plane rides, but mostly by long letters, which I still
have actually, and also you know the occasional long distance
phone call. But we didn't actually see each other again
for twenty two years and that's where most of the
(19:13):
book is based in two thousand and three. And again
it is fiction. You know, the the meat part and
the immigration part is pretty much based on our experience.
But a lot of the drama, you know in the
in the midst of the book is all fictional.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
M and certainly as well too.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
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Worn as well. Both go in separate ways or just
going at different paths and everything like that. More on
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with a Place for Us, And this also involves with Joe,
a driven environmental attorney built being DC, and Lauren a
spurty young woman from Britain on journey of self discovery,
and you know, just fast forward and everything else, you
guys pretty much went all over, like what San Francisco,
(22:21):
you send me National Park? And of course you guys
had different aspirations, which you know, in a sense kind
of we're in line, but sense also collided.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well, these are fictional characters, Joe and Lauren, but they
do meet again after twenty two years, and at the
time they both have partners already and difficult relationships that
have their problems and which they have to deal with
and unwind because they find themselves wanting to be with
(22:55):
each other once again. So the leads to the major conundrum,
which is finding a place because they can't really live
together legally in either of their home countries. And you know,
(23:16):
so much of the suspense and drama is how they work.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That out, Okay, And I think that's really important as well,
maybe so many other challenges like say with doing landlords,
dealing with what was it, trying to find a place,
everything like that. So it's like I'm just trying to
see It's like, you know, how is this going against
(23:42):
and how do you manage to overcome? I mean, I'm
just thinking right now, it's like, how can you overcome
without getting a place to live?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
First of all, well, it had nothing to do with landlords.
It was just you know, the immigration systems at the time.
I mean now it's only been since twenty fifty twenty
thirteen that the US has recognized same sex couples for immigration,
and Canada did since two thousand and two, so and
(24:16):
I don't remember when the UK started doing that. But anyway,
in two thousand and three, it was not an option
in the US or the UK.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Okay, what about some other countries like say Australia or France,
Germany or even like say go out to like you know,
like China, Japan or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Have you guys liked that other.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Countries where they still allow same SEXU or was it
like the along the lines that or was just as difficult?
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Well, I mean currently there's probably I don't know five
or thirty countries that do recognize same sex for immigration,
but at that time it was far fewer. I don't
really know, but I'm sure sure it's not recognized in
China and in India and some other countries. I mean,
(25:08):
it's just obviously difficult now in the United States, you know,
to immigrate as a couple same sex people have to
have been married in their country of origin, and there's
only about twenty five countries in which that's possible, most
of them Western countries. So you know, people coming from
(25:33):
China or India, you know, Pakistan, you know, are just
up the creek.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Right exactly, And of course it's important to be visible.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
There's still an ongoing fight.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And how much work do you think still needs to
be done?
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Well, right now, you know a lot of work needs
to be done because the rights and freedoms that LGBT
people have taken it for granted, the young people for
most of their lives are being threatened. And so I
(26:11):
think this is Pride Month, And the original purpose of
Pride was to serve as a platform for activism, to
call attention to discrimination, violence, and legislative issues affecting the
LBGTQ community. And although in recent years it's become a
(26:34):
big celebration with lots of corporate sponsors, you know. Currently,
with the backlash that's happening now, I think that it's
probably should go back to its original purpose.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It goes way back history too of get women as well.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
How far do you think back your ghosts.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
There's always been gay women or lesbians always, you know,
it's just how visible they are depends on how the
you know, acceptance by society. And certainly in recent years
there was a Gallup poll showing that at least among
(27:20):
young people, the percentage has gone way up, and part
of that is just greater acceptance. In the older demographic
it's quite low, which reflects the lack of acceptance in certainly.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
It sounds like there's pretty much a wide gap to
the whole thing as well. And June twenty eighth is
being the most significant and tell us why June twenty
eighth is significant for you.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
So June twenty eighth was the Stonewall uprising when a
club in New York City was raided by the police
for the in thousandth time, and the patrons just got
fed up with it and resisted, and it went on
(28:10):
for days and it was kind of like the first
time that well that they had fought back, and so
that was commemorated with gay Pride marches the following year
nineteen seventy in New York City and then it just continued.
Every year on the twenty eighth of June is commemorated
(28:36):
of that uprising and the pride. I guess that was
shown by those resistors.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Also maybe think what happened.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I'm trying to think one maybe five ten years ago
somewhere on there the nightclub shooting in Orlando.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
That's another significant mark.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Yeah, I don't think that's celebrated.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
This is another landmark as or reminder too, So just.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
A reminder that you know the world is still quite
unsafe for marginalized people of all kinds.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Really, Okay, and also lastly as well too, and how
do people get a hold of you? How do people
get a hold of your book and everything?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Best way is probably either to visit my website at
Wwpatricia Grayhall dot com. And so it's my books are
available through Simon and Schuster everywhere where books are sold
in ebook, print or audiobook form.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Okay, And what's your website again.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
It's just Patricia Grayhall dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
All right, well, certainly check that out.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
We're here's the amazing author, Patricia Grayhall of a place
for us here on the Mike Wadner Show, and a
few more things.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
What else can we expect from you? Twenty twenty five
and beyond.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Oh, I'm writing a thriller.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Now, nice, Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It's just about it's pretty much finished. It's it is
again Joe the environmental attorney and a physician who are
up against the environmental crimes of big oil, and one
of them gets arrested for bank robbery and was probably framed.
(30:23):
So it was that's that's the next book.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Mmmm.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Makes you think of Aaron Brockovich to the next level.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Sounds like, yeah, it's a flavor of that. That sounds
like we're looking forward to that. Who do you consider
biggest influence in the career?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Oh, which career?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Just any any career anything?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Yeah, Well, I guess, uh, you know, for my medical career,
my mother who always encouraged me to you know, do
do well in school and and just always supported my
continueing on to go to medical school and stuff. Also
(31:06):
for my writing career, I would say my original writing
coach who turned out to also be my publisher.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So okay, that sounds like a really good one. What's
the best advice you can give to anybody at this point,
to anybody wants to write just in general?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Well, I'm just that I don't know, just that love
is love and will prevail.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Okay, now I think that's a really good point as well.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
We're here with author Patricia Grayhall of a place for
us here on the Mike Waders Show. Patricia, a very
big thank you, DNA. You've been absolutely fantastic, learning a lot,
looking forward him soon keeps up today, keep in touch
with lave. I'd be back with your website. How do
people contact you? Wearing people purchase or check out your
books website?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Oh it's Patricia Grayhall dot com.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
All right, we'll certainly check that out once you get. Patricia,
A very big if you time. If you've been absent,
fantastic looking forehead. Soon, keeps up today, keep in touch,
live at your back. We wish I'll best and Patricia,
you definitely have a great fit chet you great thank you.
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