October 24, 2025 • 33 mins
Best-selling author/former chef and conflict negotiator Ava Miles talks about her latest release “The Hockey Experiment” as a rom-com that proves love & logic don’t always play the same rules and will make you laugh and cheer as Dr. Valentina Hargrove goes on a mission to prove that hockey players aren’t modern day cavemen while Brock “The Rock” Thomson as captain of the Alexandria Eagles is charming, intelligent and out to prove her wrong! Ava is also a life coach and energy healer and after years of residing in the States decides to move to Europe and won numerous awards for her work, plus served as conflict negotiator rebuilding war zones to foster peaceful and prosperous communities, and features her other works including “Country Heaven”, “The Paris Roommates” , “The Chocolate Garden” and more! Check out the amazing Ava Miles and her latest on all major platforms and www.avamiles.com today! #podmatch #avamiles #bestsellingauthor #formerchef #thehockeyexperiement #conflictnegotiator #romcom #drvalentinahargrove #cavemen #borcktherockthomson #alexandriaeagles #lifecoach #energyhelaer #spreaker #iheartradio #spotify #applemusic #youtube #anchorfm #bitchute #rumble #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagneravamiles #themikewagnershowavamiles
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a former chef, and a conflict and go share rebuilding
war zones to foster peaceful and prosperous communities. Also life coach,
energie healer, and a self help expert, and that few
years residing in the States, she decided to move to
follow her dream of living Europe for numerous reasons and
also won numerous awards. As a new book out a
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round con that proves love and logic don't always play
the same game. It's called The Hockey Experiment, Live, Lace
and Gym That plus Do is somewhere south of France,
the amazing author, former chef and conflict negotiator and the
author of the book Hockey Experiment. In multitalent Ava Miles a,
good morning, good afternoon, get evening.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Good morning, good afternoons, they say here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, it's great to have you on board. I have
us here.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
An author and former chef conflict negotiare rebuilding war zones
and fossil peace and prosperous communities. You're also a life coach,
energy healer, self help expert, and after years residing in
the United States, you decided to follow your dream of
living in Europe and you won numerous awards with your publications.
You have a new book, which is rom com that
proves love and logic don't always have played the same
(02:43):
rules and make you laugh and also cheer, and it's
called The Hockey Experiment, especially what happened last night between
Emonton and Florida. For getting a eva, tell us that
I first got started, Sorry, tell us how you first
got started?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
HI first started in writing.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No way back, way, way way back for you way
back time machine Sherman, way back, way back.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
All right, Well, I'll go back then to how I
got into international affairs. I was reading in Parade magazine
one day about Jimmy Carter starting the Carter Center, and
I was in high school at the time, and I
just thought, what a wonderful thing it was to go
around the world and help communities that have been affected
by conflict, that were affected by ecronomic deprivation and other things.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And I thought, I want to be a conflict negotiator.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I want to help people solve their problems and make
their communities better. And so no one really knew what
to do with me, because it's not exactly an obvious
career path, especially for a girl from small town Midwest.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
So after going to university.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
And then finding pretty much the right graduate school, which
was Notre Dame University, father Ted Hesberg, who was a
Presidential Medallion winner with own Ray Frock's former or his
basically his wife, people very passed on major philanthropists. She
had endowed that program with a conflict resolution program, and
(04:10):
I was the only American admitted. They only usually didn't
want American a year, and that pretty much helped sort
of land me and understanding mediation community like discussions, reconciliation,
high level conflict, and then went to Washington and pretty
much worked with some of the best organizations that do
that before becoming an author.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That was interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You talk about being a chief negotiator and everything like that,
or like a conflict you have some high level ones.
What was the most challenging conflict that you had to
solve and how do you resolve it?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Well, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I think conflict is not something that you always feel
like you solve. I think you get people to a table.
I worked quite a bit in Congo, for example, and
that was a very.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Challenging type of thing.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
You get people locally to come together to deal with
issues like land repatriation, getting refugees it had been displaced,
coming back to the communities where someone maybe had their home,
maybe their home was no longer there, but they were
on their land farming, and so working with local chiefs
and the chief and sort of aspects with also higher
level national government to try to make that happen could.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Be very very challenging. But you know, if you got
like people to agree.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
On what types of projects they wanted to do, who
owned what basically at the time, and you could get
that to start rolling, it made a huge difference in
those communities until, of course, another conflict came along and
burned the village.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
For example you were working with Oh wow, very difficult.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
So anyway, but yeah, conflict is a losing I think
aspect for everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Right, And what was that one exact, precise moment that
simply influence you doing the rest of their career. Besides,
you know you'll be influenced by Jimmy Carr.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What was that one light ball on? Was it simply
said this is what I'm I do.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
It really was Jamie Carter to be fair, I really was.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
And the more I, you know, sort of got into things,
I thought it was just such a wonderful opportunity to
be able to serve other people and be able to
help in places that.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I just never, you know, would have even imagined sort of.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Being a part of although learning that human beings around
the world want the same things. They want a safe
place for their kids to go and grow up, they
want a home, they want a job that's going to
take care of their families, and they want to have
opportunities and so in freedom. And I think that that
was something that was a really nice thing to sort
of understand that we're all the same in some respects too.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, And plus you know you could also you know,
bring together food as well too. It's the best way
to solve our conflict. It's like, you know, you bring
food together, pizza, drink and everything like that. You know,
sometimes have a little doughnuts and coffee around, just start
the camaraderie which we have and make things lighten up
and everything like that. Well, speaking of conflict resolution, that
(06:55):
you went for that to being a chef, and tell
us about that transition.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Well, I was basically a chef. I was thinking about
being a chef when I was in graduate school. I
kind of landed a lovely gig. I became a chef
in a Northern Italian restaurant to make money for school,
and it ended up working out so well. I became
a private chef, and so I was doing my masters,
one of my masters, and.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It was very tempting.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
And so when I got to Washington, I was doing
both catering as well as my other job, my international
career job, and I decided in the end that I
just felt like helping people overseas was more of a
calling for me, and so I decided to.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Not do that, although I get to do it now
with books, which is great. I have two cookbooks.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I get to write about chefs and restaurant Watson Paris,
and so I've been able to bring that back around
in a really happy way.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And who are some of your favorite chefs?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So my favorite chefs.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I liked Robard A Donna, Eric Repair of course, So
those are two great ones. I've been reading a book
I've just decided to teach myself The Cuisine of Sichuan,
about Sishwan cuisine by James Spear nominee named Husha Dunlap.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
So I'm always picking something up. It's a it's a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And also how about ones growing up before you got
it got involved in being a chef.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Oh gosh, well I probably grew up like looking at
Marcel de Saunier, who was the Death by Chocolate chef.
I loved watching his.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh yeah, Death by Chocolate. That's one of my favorites
way back in the day. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Unfortunately I never got down to his restaurant before it
closed in Williamsburg, Virginia, but I loved I loved his
other book, which is The Trellis, because that was his
long time standing restaurant, so and the frugal Gourmet was one.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Of course, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I like that one.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Julia Julia Child of course was a Julia Child.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, remember of that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, so you got to boil news got boiled that
and he makes mistakes and makes fun of it.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Too, yeah, which is really nice and very unFrench in
some ways. So that's like also kind of nice because
it made it much more approachable.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It does too, And of course I remember who was
at Martin Yanne with the Chinese chef. I loved him
and am Burrell, who I was just stun getting it all.
But unfortunately she passed away recently as well too. She
was on Iron Chef Bobby Flay and everything like that.
Ambrell one of the better chefs passing away recently.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Mm hmmm yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Food is a wonderful thing. The teachers are just always
around and it's wonderful to sort of see what their influences.
I just watched Yankin cook in actual Sichuan province in Shanghu,
and I was like having a good HARKing back to
when I used to watch his show, like a long.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Long time ago, and certainly does as well too.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
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Before we talk about the Hockey.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Experiment, which which by the way, coincides with Florida winning
the Stanley Cup for the second time, taking out Edmonton
four games to two. And what a serious that was.
Since you loved the right, since you love hockey experiment,
how appropriate?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean my hero brought the rock.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Thompson actually was a huge Oilers fan, so you know,
if you were a live person, he would have been
very sad.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Right yea, And Conor mcdad was frustrated. Sam Reinhart scored
four goals to win the whole thing. Serge BROBOXI twenty
eight says, but I'm looking forward to another hockey season,
which we'll get to in as well. You did Country Heaven,
the Paris roommates, and the chocolate was a chocolate garden.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
All that so tell us about those the.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Chocolate garden, Well, chocolate garden actually kicked off a gardening
craze in the United States because people we're reading about
a basically an abused and now divorced woman who wanted
to start taking care of her kids because she'd left
her husband, and she started a garden consulting company, and
she wanted to create a chocolate garden for the hero
(13:15):
in the book because he loved chocolate, and so all
these chocolate plants that I got to research because I'm
a huge gardener, and I had all these readers, and
suddenly I had people who own gardeners who are saying,
I have all these readers coming with your book and
saying I want.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
These plants and I don't have them. But we were
ordering them. We're so excited with this like enthusiasm. So
it was a great thing.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Had even somebody in South Africa create the first public
chocolate garden because of my book, and that was like.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Wow, amazing, Now it was it like an actual cocoa plant.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
What type of chocolate was it?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Oh, it's actually it's actually a public garden that is
populated by plants that have chocolate in them, or not chocolate,
but like chocolate scented plants. There's like chocolate scented orchids,
chocolate scented daisies, chocolate sunflowers. Anyway, there's like any number
of like chocolate mint is of course a very common one.
I even have a reader two weeks ago who said
(14:07):
she was so excited to find chocolate mint because she
loved the chocolate garden, but she wanted to know where
she could get more. Yeah, so it's fun having the
things that you love having people respond to them.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I was more thing of the cocal beans that grow
in South America and Brazil and everything like that. But
chocolate mint's having plans. I think that's good enough right there.
I'm right for some half for this. So we had
some of that and plus yelds.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I had the Parish Roommates and talk more about that one.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Sure, the Paris Roommates, Well, I mean, you know, I
split my time between Provence and Paris, and so it's
Paris has been a long time love affair for me.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
So it's been wonderful to bring basically my version of
like I would say, if it's Emily in Paris meets
the TV show of Friends.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It's about six roommates who come.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Back to help their host's mother and own the owner
of a restaurant who falls upon difficult times, and they
come back to help her basically save and resurrect her restaurant,
and then basically reignite their lives because they're all kind
of hitting thirty and they're not really happy with how
things are, and so they all find love in the city,
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in the city of love.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
No better place for it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And of course it leads us up to Country Heaven.
Talk more about that.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Sure, Well. Country Heaven was kind of a sleeper for me.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
It was the first hero that I ever thought, Gosh,
I can't believe I'm going to write a hero like this,
because he showed up just as a total wild boy
country singer but he'd been disowned by his family because
he didn't want to practice law.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
He'd gotten discovered in a karaoke bar in Nashville.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And anyway, the book really is about him hiring a
down on her love cook to be his cook on
his tour, and so she is writing a cookbook, and
so in his point of view, there's songs before his
chapter starts, and hers's recipes and people absolutely and crazy
for it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
So that launched.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I had suddenly had all these people saying they really
wanted a cookbook, and so I put together that those recipes,
and then of course I put together once for my
own family and from my own like sort of table,
and that was That was such a such a joy.
I've had chefs told me I've outsold them, which is
kind of funny when we've like sat down and talked
about numbers.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh my gosh, that was amazing. Plus you always have
some book series as well too, and you also won
number of awards, and maybe some of the book series
and a feld of books you will love to talk about,
especially winning a number of awards on it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Sure well.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I mean, when I think my best moments, like within
the last year was being having the Paris Roomates featured
in People magazine. That was that was something, you know,
like being the kid who always was in the checkout
stand at the grocery store and seeing People magazine and
being like I was in People magazine. My book was
in People magazine. That was a pretty great moment. I've
got to say. So.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
I mean my books have been picked by editors best
books of the year, Country Heaven, Nora roberts Land.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
For example, my first book was picked by USA Today
as best book of the year. That really great, and
Barceonoma picked beside Golden Irish Fields is like one of
their favorite books of the year.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
So I had a nice sprinkling of of of accolades
by a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Of different groups.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
And my readers kind of say at best, they come
back for more, and they love my books and they
reread them, which is to me the greatest compliment an
author can get.
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Well back on author Abel Miles and the Mike Wedders
Show with the Hockey Experiments. And this is a new
book that came out as well too, just after you know,
broadcast at Evan to lost of Florida in the Stanley
Cup as Florida one back to back. This is It's
not about hockey itself. It's a rom com that proves
love and logic don't always play by the same rules
(20:07):
and talks about a doctor basically on a mission to
proving once and for all hockey players are Mandaue Cavan
but one hockey player doesn't think so tell us more
about that.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Well, it's a funny it's a funny study because doctor
Valentina Harbor is hired actually by her father who owns
a hockey team. He's a new owner and he wants
to motivate his team and he thinks that this particular study,
if they hit the skids, basically get to that place
where they're not sure they're going to make the championship game.
So it's like our hockey players and Madern Caveman, which
actually has been studied.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I mean, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
There's wonderful like academic journals about this, and I had
an absolute ball like looking at the at the research.
So of course she goes in disguise to study this
for for this motivational strategy. And she thinks, of course,
hockey players are fantastic. She used to be a figure
skater and she has respect for athletes. But even better,
(21:02):
she really thinks caveman are awesome because not only did
they hunt in packs and take down Willie Mammos, but
they survived the ice age.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And if you can do that, you can win the
Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Especially in Florida. You don't need to live in really
cold weather do that.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So exactly, exactly, yeah, there's no winter toughness down there's
the best for sure, not like from North Dakota for example,
that where you are where I grew up in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Right, yeah, and of course you know it doesn't have
to be like the pros college as well too. University
of North dakom they've won so many championships, you know,
not too far behind Michigan, Boston College and everything like that.
They've always been tough, you know, Grand Forks being very
very close to the Canadian bar about maybe like about
fifty miles twenty miles something like that. But then you're
about just a few hours away from Winnipeg, another hot
(21:49):
hockey city.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I know, it's kind of amazing that they've got such
an incredible franchisees, especially being in the South. Usually that's
football territory, right, the Hurricanes, like Florida State, Seminoles, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right, the whole SEC, Georgia Bulldogs, Alabama, Auburn, everything like that.
But also good baseball climate as well too, like you
have your your pro teams down there, like a Tampa Bay, Miami.
But then he got Atlanta Braves that really made a
big too in all sports basketball somehow, you know, Peachtree Street,
State and everything else. But with but with the hockey
(22:23):
experiment as well too, that he's basically intelligent and everything else.
And so I guess with with with hockey as well,
that it all starts. I have to say, is it
just rings about? So what was that stipulation that she
was trying to take down here, I was trying to
get to that part.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
So oh, well, she was basically trying to go and
give the coach and her dad some pieces that they
could go and do after a huge loss. And so
had a three game loss and suddenly the study kind
of went awry.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
And I can't sort of say.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Much more because of the spoilers that'll like give too
much away. But basically it's kind of a big brujaja
that the media gets a hold of. And of course,
as we know, cavemen are considered ignoramuses, right, there's a
lot of misinformation about cavemen.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
They did not go and hang out at the same
time as dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
For example, right, Yeah, they never had sticks, never had
rubber or anything like that that had to be invented.
And I don't know if they really invented sticks, rubber,
pocks or anything like that. They're more concerned about fire
and try and survive and hunt for animals.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
That was their main thing, right absolutely so anyway, so yeah,
so it's a funny thing about them doing their field
studies talking about male territorialism, about like white wo men
fight each other, how to men compete and win together.
And so it's got a nice sort of like there's
a big thing in romance, for example, the genre that
(23:52):
this book is in. It's about women who actually are
scientists and into technology and that type of thing, and
so it's like nerdy the nerdy sort of like meets
hunk type of thing. But yeah, Brock is intelligent, he's
a Harvard grad, he's got businesses. He's a family man,
which readers have really like gone crazy over.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I was a little surprised by that. I love to write.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
About family situations and I think it really personalizes people.
But people have been just saying it's a very unique
hockey player who is such a family kind of person
because he's invited his sister and his niece and nephew
into his home during hockey season, which is proving for
him to be a little challenging right too.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And of course that's remind me of slap Shot. I
don't know if you remember seeing the movie that was
like back in the seventye of Paul Newman, that a
slap shot too all wow, fact that it was the
same thing. The Charles Town Chiefs were really down and
out and then they had to do something to ignite
the franchise or their threat and to sell that seems
like along the lines of slap Shot and made me
(24:53):
think of It's like that was one of the best
movies I saw, a slap Shot. It was our same
lines of hockey experiment.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Yeah, unfortunately I did not.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I haven't seen slap Shot mister Alaska, though I really
enjoy and of course Miracle is a fabulous one, but
I haven't seen Slapshot.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, that's something you probably check out too sometime. And
since one of the subject who are some of their
favorite hockey players growing up, Well.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I would say bron and Love's Wayne Gretzky because he
didn't tape his stick, just exactly like Wayne, which I
thought was very intriguing. Very few players actually go without
going and taping their stick, and it was like, this
is going to be this is kind of a treating one.
I actually modeled Brock after Sydney Crosby because they consider
him the nicest guy in.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Hockey, and I thought that he.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Presented sort of the type of person that I was
I was looking for. I don't know him, I only
know what the press says about him, so I would
say it's a loose like sort of sense, but I
wanted to have somebody who actually was known as a
bang up kind of guy, and he certainly fits the bill.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So right, Yeah, And of course you know they don't.
They don't always play by the same rules. And I
find that out that you're right, they don't always play
by the same roles. And of course you wonder is
why why don't they play by the same rules like
the sport maybe going to probably present that.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
In terms of playing by the same rules, why I think,
you know, there's one person on the team, for example,
who really likes the fight club and he's very motivated
by his own ego and his own accolades, and he
crosses a lot of problems on the team because he
gets them into a lot of penalty situations. Uh, and
they have lost games because of penalty shots at the
last at sort of the last part.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Of the game. So trying to figure out what to
do with a very talented hockey player who's.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Got a lot of off the off the ice issues
is also sort of another piece, and it's a nice
he's a nice spoil to the hero, who of course
is very team oriented, who lets his actions speak on
the ice and who really does want everyone to win
and not just himself?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And what do you want readers to get from the book?
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Well, I think I would like them to have a
really good time and enjoy it because it's a lot
of lass.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I think we all need to feel good right now and.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Having entertainment that can go and make us laugh, but
at the same time they can come and make us think.
One of the things I really love about doctor Valentina
is that she starts to analyze why we fall in
love because she is so taken by a surprise that
she is attracted to this hockey player kind of came
out of nowhere, and she's also a professional. She doesn't
necessarily want it to mess up with study, and so
(27:24):
her analysis that sort of starts to creep in about
why humans fall in love with each other is I
think really quite powerful and I think it can help
a lot of women understand that sort of heart versus logic,
brain sort of like thing that you go through because
it is a really transformative time and.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
It makes you feel a little unhingient when it happens.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And certainly does as well too.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And where can when you find your book to Hockey
expend all your works, Toda, Eva, Sure.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
You can find my stuff at Amazon. Of course I'm in.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
The Kindle Unlimited Universe because it's the biggest book universe
in the world at the moment.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
But you could also find it on print at barn
So Noble.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
And we'll certainly check that out. We're here at the
multi time, Eva, miles out of the Hockey Experiment. Here
the mic wators show a few more things, Eva, what
else do we expect me in twenty twenty five and
beyond Sure.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Well, I'm going to be finishing the last couple of
books in the Paris Roommate series, so that'll be super
super exciting. The last few roommates that have yet to
be given their stories Sawyer, Madison, and Kyle because it's
the Paris and Roommates with their names. And then I'm
basically plotting, although like very far along in that a
(28:33):
new I would call it sort of like my take
of like Doctor Quinn Menison, woman meets Outlander.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Nice that in.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
The wilds of a small town in Montana, where an
herbalist returns to her hometown, to a love that had
been lost and to a town that needs some serious help,
and she's going to sort of fulfil that as a
as an herbalist.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
So it's going to be quite exciting and.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Certainly looking forward to as well. Who do you consider
biggest influence in the career.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
My biggest influence in my career, I would say probably
it's my best friend, my soul sister, who's an international
vestling author. Her name's Kate Perry.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
At her height at Apple was selling against James Patterson
and E. L.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
James.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
She's one of Apple's most prolific writers. She went through
a horrible divorce over her.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Books and copyright, and.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
She fought it and unfortunately lost it because copyright is
not something that protects authors and family law, which I
hope all authors go and find out. It's very important
that we sort of share that information with each other.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
But she has managed to just continue to keep her
good spirits.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
She writes wonderful rom coms as well, and she's funny,
she's a good hearted person, and she's never let her
success take away her kindness and her humanity.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
And I think she's a real spectacular.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Person and sounds like it as well. What's the best
advice you can give the aim By.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
At this point, anyone.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I would say, follow your heart, doesn't matter what it is,
professionalise or personalized.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I think you follow your heart.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's going to be great and play and watch hockey.
That's another one too, So there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's definite.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yes, we're here with the multi talent Ava Miles, the
author of the Hockey Experiment here on the Mic Writers Show.
If a very big thanks for time, Pep and Abs
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people contact you? Where can people purchase or check out
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Speaker 6 (30:34):
Sure you can go and go to my website at
www abamiles dot com. Or you can find me just
look me up as Ava Miles on Amazon Boards. And
now you've got sixty plus some of my books would
pop for you, so you'll have a slew of books
to choose from.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
And the website again Wwwavamiles dot com. And we want
air by to check it out right now.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
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Abs the amazing looking for him soon gips up today,
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We wish our best and Eva, you definitely have for
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Speaker 5 (31:05):
Thank you so much, Mike, it was a joy.
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a former chef, and a conflict and go share rebuilding
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energie healer, and a self help expert, and that few
years residing in the States, she decided to move to
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also won numerous awards. As a new book out a
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round con that proves love and logic don't always play
the same game. It's called The Hockey Experiment, Live, Lace
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the amazing author, former chef and conflict negotiator and the
author of the book Hockey Experiment. In multitalent Ava Miles a,
good morning, good afternoon, get evening.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Good morning, good afternoons, they say here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, it's great to have you on board. I have
us here.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
An author and former chef conflict negotiare rebuilding war zones
and fossil peace and prosperous communities. You're also a life coach,
energy healer, self help expert, and after years residing in
the United States, you decided to follow your dream of
living in Europe and you won numerous awards with your publications.
You have a new book, which is rom com that
proves love and logic don't always have played the same
(02:43):
rules and make you laugh and also cheer, and it's
called The Hockey Experiment, especially what happened last night between
Emonton and Florida. For getting a eva, tell us that
I first got started, Sorry, tell us how you first
got started?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
HI first started in writing.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No way back, way, way way back for you way
back time machine Sherman, way back, way back.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
All right, Well, I'll go back then to how I
got into international affairs. I was reading in Parade magazine
one day about Jimmy Carter starting the Carter Center, and
I was in high school at the time, and I
just thought, what a wonderful thing it was to go
around the world and help communities that have been affected
by conflict, that were affected by ecronomic deprivation and other things.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And I thought, I want to be a conflict negotiator.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I want to help people solve their problems and make
their communities better. And so no one really knew what
to do with me, because it's not exactly an obvious
career path, especially for a girl from small town Midwest.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
So after going to university.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
And then finding pretty much the right graduate school, which
was Notre Dame University, father Ted Hesberg, who was a
Presidential Medallion winner with own Ray Frock's former or his
basically his wife, people very passed on major philanthropists. She
had endowed that program with a conflict resolution program, and
(04:10):
I was the only American admitted. They only usually didn't
want American a year, and that pretty much helped sort
of land me and understanding mediation community like discussions, reconciliation,
high level conflict, and then went to Washington and pretty
much worked with some of the best organizations that do
that before becoming an author.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That was interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You talk about being a chief negotiator and everything like that,
or like a conflict you have some high level ones.
What was the most challenging conflict that you had to
solve and how do you resolve it?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Well, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I think conflict is not something that you always feel
like you solve. I think you get people to a table.
I worked quite a bit in Congo, for example, and
that was a very.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Challenging type of thing.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
You get people locally to come together to deal with
issues like land repatriation, getting refugees it had been displaced,
coming back to the communities where someone maybe had their home,
maybe their home was no longer there, but they were
on their land farming, and so working with local chiefs
and the chief and sort of aspects with also higher
level national government to try to make that happen could.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Be very very challenging. But you know, if you got
like people to agree.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
On what types of projects they wanted to do, who
owned what basically at the time, and you could get
that to start rolling, it made a huge difference in
those communities until, of course, another conflict came along and
burned the village.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
For example you were working with Oh wow, very difficult.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
So anyway, but yeah, conflict is a losing I think
aspect for everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Right, And what was that one exact, precise moment that
simply influence you doing the rest of their career. Besides,
you know you'll be influenced by Jimmy Carr.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What was that one light ball on? Was it simply
said this is what I'm I do.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
It really was Jamie Carter to be fair, I really was.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
And the more I, you know, sort of got into things,
I thought it was just such a wonderful opportunity to
be able to serve other people and be able to
help in places that.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I just never, you know, would have even imagined sort of.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Being a part of although learning that human beings around
the world want the same things. They want a safe
place for their kids to go and grow up, they
want a home, they want a job that's going to
take care of their families, and they want to have
opportunities and so in freedom. And I think that that
was something that was a really nice thing to sort
of understand that we're all the same in some respects too.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, And plus you know you could also you know,
bring together food as well too. It's the best way
to solve our conflict. It's like, you know, you bring
food together, pizza, drink and everything like that. You know,
sometimes have a little doughnuts and coffee around, just start
the camaraderie which we have and make things lighten up
and everything like that. Well, speaking of conflict resolution, that
(06:55):
you went for that to being a chef, and tell
us about that transition.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Well, I was basically a chef. I was thinking about
being a chef when I was in graduate school. I
kind of landed a lovely gig. I became a chef
in a Northern Italian restaurant to make money for school,
and it ended up working out so well. I became
a private chef, and so I was doing my masters,
one of my masters, and.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
It was very tempting.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
And so when I got to Washington, I was doing
both catering as well as my other job, my international
career job, and I decided in the end that I
just felt like helping people overseas was more of a
calling for me, and so I decided to.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Not do that, although I get to do it now
with books, which is great. I have two cookbooks.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I get to write about chefs and restaurant Watson Paris,
and so I've been able to bring that back around
in a really happy way.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And who are some of your favorite chefs?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So my favorite chefs.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I liked Robard A Donna, Eric Repair of course, So
those are two great ones. I've been reading a book
I've just decided to teach myself The Cuisine of Sichuan,
about Sishwan cuisine by James Spear nominee named Husha Dunlap.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
So I'm always picking something up. It's a it's a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And also how about ones growing up before you got
it got involved in being a chef.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Oh gosh, well I probably grew up like looking at
Marcel de Saunier, who was the Death by Chocolate chef.
I loved watching his.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh yeah, Death by Chocolate. That's one of my favorites
way back in the day. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Unfortunately I never got down to his restaurant before it
closed in Williamsburg, Virginia, but I loved I loved his
other book, which is The Trellis, because that was his
long time standing restaurant, so and the frugal Gourmet was one.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Of course, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I like that one.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Julia Julia Child of course was a Julia Child.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, remember of that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, so you got to boil news got boiled that
and he makes mistakes and makes fun of it.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Too, yeah, which is really nice and very unFrench in
some ways. So that's like also kind of nice because
it made it much more approachable.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It does too, And of course I remember who was
at Martin Yanne with the Chinese chef. I loved him
and am Burrell, who I was just stun getting it all.
But unfortunately she passed away recently as well too. She
was on Iron Chef Bobby Flay and everything like that.
Ambrell one of the better chefs passing away recently.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Mm hmmm yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Food is a wonderful thing. The teachers are just always
around and it's wonderful to sort of see what their influences.
I just watched Yankin cook in actual Sichuan province in Shanghu,
and I was like having a good HARKing back to
when I used to watch his show, like a long.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Long time ago, and certainly does as well too.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
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Before we talk about the Hockey.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Experiment, which which by the way, coincides with Florida winning
the Stanley Cup for the second time, taking out Edmonton
four games to two. And what a serious that was.
Since you loved the right, since you love hockey experiment,
how appropriate?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean my hero brought the rock.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Thompson actually was a huge Oilers fan, so you know,
if you were a live person, he would have been
very sad.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Right yea, And Conor mcdad was frustrated. Sam Reinhart scored
four goals to win the whole thing. Serge BROBOXI twenty
eight says, but I'm looking forward to another hockey season,
which we'll get to in as well. You did Country Heaven,
the Paris roommates, and the chocolate was a chocolate garden.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
All that so tell us about those the.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Chocolate garden, Well, chocolate garden actually kicked off a gardening
craze in the United States because people we're reading about
a basically an abused and now divorced woman who wanted
to start taking care of her kids because she'd left
her husband, and she started a garden consulting company, and
she wanted to create a chocolate garden for the hero
(13:15):
in the book because he loved chocolate, and so all
these chocolate plants that I got to research because I'm
a huge gardener, and I had all these readers, and
suddenly I had people who own gardeners who are saying,
I have all these readers coming with your book and
saying I want.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
These plants and I don't have them. But we were
ordering them. We're so excited with this like enthusiasm. So
it was a great thing.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Had even somebody in South Africa create the first public
chocolate garden because of my book, and that was like.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Wow, amazing, Now it was it like an actual cocoa plant.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
What type of chocolate was it?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Oh, it's actually it's actually a public garden that is
populated by plants that have chocolate in them, or not chocolate,
but like chocolate scented plants. There's like chocolate scented orchids,
chocolate scented daisies, chocolate sunflowers. Anyway, there's like any number
of like chocolate mint is of course a very common one.
I even have a reader two weeks ago who said
(14:07):
she was so excited to find chocolate mint because she
loved the chocolate garden, but she wanted to know where
she could get more. Yeah, so it's fun having the
things that you love having people respond to them.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I was more thing of the cocal beans that grow
in South America and Brazil and everything like that. But
chocolate mint's having plans. I think that's good enough right there.
I'm right for some half for this. So we had
some of that and plus yelds.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I had the Parish Roommates and talk more about that one.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Sure, the Paris Roommates, Well, I mean, you know, I
split my time between Provence and Paris, and so it's
Paris has been a long time love affair for me.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
So it's been wonderful to bring basically my version of
like I would say, if it's Emily in Paris meets
the TV show of Friends.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It's about six roommates who come.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Back to help their host's mother and own the owner
of a restaurant who falls upon difficult times, and they
come back to help her basically save and resurrect her restaurant,
and then basically reignite their lives because they're all kind
of hitting thirty and they're not really happy with how
things are, and so they all find love in the city,
(15:14):
in the city of love.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
No better place for it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And of course it leads us up to Country Heaven.
Talk more about that.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Sure, Well. Country Heaven was kind of a sleeper for me.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
It was the first hero that I ever thought, Gosh,
I can't believe I'm going to write a hero like this,
because he showed up just as a total wild boy
country singer but he'd been disowned by his family because
he didn't want to practice law.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
He'd gotten discovered in a karaoke bar in Nashville.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And anyway, the book really is about him hiring a
down on her love cook to be his cook on
his tour, and so she is writing a cookbook, and
so in his point of view, there's songs before his
chapter starts, and hers's recipes and people absolutely and crazy
for it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
So that launched.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I had suddenly had all these people saying they really
wanted a cookbook, and so I put together that those recipes,
and then of course I put together once for my
own family and from my own like sort of table,
and that was That was such a such a joy.
I've had chefs told me I've outsold them, which is
kind of funny when we've like sat down and talked
about numbers.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh my gosh, that was amazing. Plus you always have
some book series as well too, and you also won
number of awards, and maybe some of the book series
and a feld of books you will love to talk about,
especially winning a number of awards on it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Sure well.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I mean, when I think my best moments, like within
the last year was being having the Paris Roomates featured
in People magazine. That was that was something, you know,
like being the kid who always was in the checkout
stand at the grocery store and seeing People magazine and
being like I was in People magazine. My book was
in People magazine. That was a pretty great moment. I've
got to say. So.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
I mean my books have been picked by editors best
books of the year, Country Heaven, Nora roberts Land.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
For example, my first book was picked by USA Today
as best book of the year. That really great, and
Barceonoma picked beside Golden Irish Fields is like one of
their favorite books of the year.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
So I had a nice sprinkling of of of accolades
by a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Of different groups.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
And my readers kind of say at best, they come
back for more, and they love my books and they
reread them, which is to me the greatest compliment an
author can get.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And plus you also have an upcoming book called The
Hockey Experiment, which talks about basically proven that love and
logic don't always play as center rules. We'll find more
about that with Ava Miles. You listen to the Mike
Widners Show at the Mike Widershow dot com powered by
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Hey there, Dana Laxa here, American news anchor. Hey, let
me ask you something real quick. Why do you read
a book. You're buying a story, a thought, a message,
and a good book entertains and inspires. And that's exactly
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I have his book right here, and it's based on
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Tuned into the Mike Wagner Show.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You heard me.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well back on author Abel Miles and the Mike Wedders
Show with the Hockey Experiments. And this is a new
book that came out as well too, just after you know,
broadcast at Evan to lost of Florida in the Stanley
Cup as Florida one back to back. This is It's
not about hockey itself. It's a rom com that proves
love and logic don't always play by the same rules
(20:07):
and talks about a doctor basically on a mission to
proving once and for all hockey players are Mandaue Cavan
but one hockey player doesn't think so tell us more
about that.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Well, it's a funny it's a funny study because doctor
Valentina Harbor is hired actually by her father who owns
a hockey team. He's a new owner and he wants
to motivate his team and he thinks that this particular study,
if they hit the skids, basically get to that place
where they're not sure they're going to make the championship game.
So it's like our hockey players and Madern Caveman, which
actually has been studied.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I mean, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
There's wonderful like academic journals about this, and I had
an absolute ball like looking at the at the research.
So of course she goes in disguise to study this
for for this motivational strategy. And she thinks, of course,
hockey players are fantastic. She used to be a figure
skater and she has respect for athletes. But even better,
(21:02):
she really thinks caveman are awesome because not only did
they hunt in packs and take down Willie Mammos, but
they survived the ice age.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And if you can do that, you can win the
Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Especially in Florida. You don't need to live in really
cold weather do that.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So exactly, exactly, yeah, there's no winter toughness down there's
the best for sure, not like from North Dakota for example,
that where you are where I grew up in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Right, yeah, and of course you know it doesn't have
to be like the pros college as well too. University
of North dakom they've won so many championships, you know,
not too far behind Michigan, Boston College and everything like that.
They've always been tough, you know, Grand Forks being very
very close to the Canadian bar about maybe like about
fifty miles twenty miles something like that. But then you're
about just a few hours away from Winnipeg, another hot
(21:49):
hockey city.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I know, it's kind of amazing that they've got such
an incredible franchisees, especially being in the South. Usually that's
football territory, right, the Hurricanes, like Florida State, Seminoles, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right, the whole SEC, Georgia Bulldogs, Alabama, Auburn, everything like that.
But also good baseball climate as well too, like you
have your your pro teams down there, like a Tampa Bay, Miami.
But then he got Atlanta Braves that really made a
big too in all sports basketball somehow, you know, Peachtree Street,
State and everything else. But with but with the hockey
(22:23):
experiment as well too, that he's basically intelligent and everything else.
And so I guess with with with hockey as well,
that it all starts. I have to say, is it
just rings about? So what was that stipulation that she
was trying to take down here, I was trying to
get to that part.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
So oh, well, she was basically trying to go and
give the coach and her dad some pieces that they
could go and do after a huge loss. And so
had a three game loss and suddenly the study kind
of went awry.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
And I can't sort of say.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Much more because of the spoilers that'll like give too
much away. But basically it's kind of a big brujaja
that the media gets a hold of. And of course,
as we know, cavemen are considered ignoramuses, right, there's a
lot of misinformation about cavemen.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
They did not go and hang out at the same
time as dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
For example, right, Yeah, they never had sticks, never had
rubber or anything like that that had to be invented.
And I don't know if they really invented sticks, rubber,
pocks or anything like that. They're more concerned about fire
and try and survive and hunt for animals.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
That was their main thing, right absolutely so anyway, so yeah,
so it's a funny thing about them doing their field
studies talking about male territorialism, about like white wo men
fight each other, how to men compete and win together.
And so it's got a nice sort of like there's
a big thing in romance, for example, the genre that
(23:52):
this book is in. It's about women who actually are
scientists and into technology and that type of thing, and
so it's like nerdy the nerdy sort of like meets
hunk type of thing. But yeah, Brock is intelligent, he's
a Harvard grad, he's got businesses. He's a family man,
which readers have really like gone crazy over.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I was a little surprised by that. I love to write.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
About family situations and I think it really personalizes people.
But people have been just saying it's a very unique
hockey player who is such a family kind of person
because he's invited his sister and his niece and nephew
into his home during hockey season, which is proving for
him to be a little challenging right too.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And of course that's remind me of slap Shot. I
don't know if you remember seeing the movie that was
like back in the seventye of Paul Newman, that a
slap shot too all wow, fact that it was the
same thing. The Charles Town Chiefs were really down and
out and then they had to do something to ignite
the franchise or their threat and to sell that seems
like along the lines of slap Shot and made me
(24:53):
think of It's like that was one of the best
movies I saw, a slap Shot. It was our same
lines of hockey experiment.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Yeah, unfortunately I did not.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I haven't seen slap Shot mister Alaska, though I really
enjoy and of course Miracle is a fabulous one, but
I haven't seen Slapshot.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, that's something you probably check out too sometime. And
since one of the subject who are some of their
favorite hockey players growing up, Well.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I would say bron and Love's Wayne Gretzky because he
didn't tape his stick, just exactly like Wayne, which I
thought was very intriguing. Very few players actually go without
going and taping their stick, and it was like, this
is going to be this is kind of a treating one.
I actually modeled Brock after Sydney Crosby because they consider
him the nicest guy in.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Hockey, and I thought that he.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Presented sort of the type of person that I was
I was looking for. I don't know him, I only
know what the press says about him, so I would
say it's a loose like sort of sense, but I
wanted to have somebody who actually was known as a
bang up kind of guy, and he certainly fits the bill.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So right, Yeah, And of course you know they don't.
They don't always play by the same rules. And I
find that out that you're right, they don't always play
by the same roles. And of course you wonder is
why why don't they play by the same rules like
the sport maybe going to probably present that.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
In terms of playing by the same rules, why I think,
you know, there's one person on the team, for example,
who really likes the fight club and he's very motivated
by his own ego and his own accolades, and he
crosses a lot of problems on the team because he
gets them into a lot of penalty situations. Uh, and
they have lost games because of penalty shots at the
last at sort of the last part.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Of the game. So trying to figure out what to
do with a very talented hockey player who's.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Got a lot of off the off the ice issues
is also sort of another piece, and it's a nice
he's a nice spoil to the hero, who of course
is very team oriented, who lets his actions speak on
the ice and who really does want everyone to win
and not just himself?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And what do you want readers to get from the book?
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Well, I think I would like them to have a
really good time and enjoy it because it's a lot
of lass.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I think we all need to feel good right now and.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Having entertainment that can go and make us laugh, but
at the same time they can come and make us think.
One of the things I really love about doctor Valentina
is that she starts to analyze why we fall in
love because she is so taken by a surprise that
she is attracted to this hockey player kind of came
out of nowhere, and she's also a professional. She doesn't
necessarily want it to mess up with study, and so
(27:24):
her analysis that sort of starts to creep in about
why humans fall in love with each other is I
think really quite powerful and I think it can help
a lot of women understand that sort of heart versus logic,
brain sort of like thing that you go through because
it is a really transformative time and.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
It makes you feel a little unhingient when it happens.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And certainly does as well too.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And where can when you find your book to Hockey
expend all your works, Toda, Eva, Sure.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
You can find my stuff at Amazon. Of course I'm in.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
The Kindle Unlimited Universe because it's the biggest book universe
in the world at the moment.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
But you could also find it on print at barn
So Noble.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
And we'll certainly check that out. We're here at the
multi time, Eva, miles out of the Hockey Experiment. Here
the mic wators show a few more things, Eva, what
else do we expect me in twenty twenty five and
beyond Sure.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Well, I'm going to be finishing the last couple of
books in the Paris Roommate series, so that'll be super
super exciting. The last few roommates that have yet to
be given their stories Sawyer, Madison, and Kyle because it's
the Paris and Roommates with their names. And then I'm
basically plotting, although like very far along in that a
(28:33):
new I would call it sort of like my take
of like Doctor Quinn Menison, woman meets Outlander.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Nice that in.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
The wilds of a small town in Montana, where an
herbalist returns to her hometown, to a love that had
been lost and to a town that needs some serious help,
and she's going to sort of fulfil that as a
as an herbalist.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
So it's going to be quite exciting and.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Certainly looking forward to as well. Who do you consider
biggest influence in the career.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
My biggest influence in my career, I would say probably
it's my best friend, my soul sister, who's an international
vestling author. Her name's Kate Perry.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
At her height at Apple was selling against James Patterson
and E. L.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
James.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
She's one of Apple's most prolific writers. She went through
a horrible divorce over her.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Books and copyright, and.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
She fought it and unfortunately lost it because copyright is
not something that protects authors and family law, which I
hope all authors go and find out. It's very important
that we sort of share that information with each other.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
But she has managed to just continue to keep her
good spirits.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
She writes wonderful rom coms as well, and she's funny,
she's a good hearted person, and she's never let her
success take away her kindness and her humanity.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
And I think she's a real spectacular.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Person and sounds like it as well. What's the best
advice you can give the aim By.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
At this point, anyone.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I would say, follow your heart, doesn't matter what it is,
professionalise or personalized.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I think you follow your heart.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's going to be great and play and watch hockey.
That's another one too, So there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's definite.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yes, we're here with the multi talent Ava Miles, the
author of the Hockey Experiment here on the Mic Writers Show.
If a very big thanks for time, Pep and Abs
fantastic looking forehand soon keeps up today, keep in touch,
laugh at you back. And what's your website? How do
people contact you? Where can people purchase or check out
your books?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Sure you can go and go to my website at
www abamiles dot com. Or you can find me just
look me up as Ava Miles on Amazon Boards. And
now you've got sixty plus some of my books would
pop for you, so you'll have a slew of books
to choose from.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
And the website again Wwwavamiles dot com. And we want
air by to check it out right now.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Once again, if I very big, thanks you time, Pepen
Abs the amazing looking for him soon gips up today,
kipping tous lavvy back.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We wish our best and Eva, you definitely have for
great fitcha.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Thank you so much, Mike, it was a joy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
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Speaker 7 (31:36):
Hey there, Dana Laxa here, American news anchor. Hey, let
me ask you something real quick. Why do you read
a book. You're buying a story, a thought, a message,
and a good book entertains and inspires. And that's exactly
what Missing by Award winning author me On Zia does.
I have his book right here, and it's based on
real events with relatable characters that hook you from start
(32:00):
to finish. I personally love this book. It's super powerful
and meaningful through you can actually get it on Amazon
right now.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
The Mike Wagner Show is brought to you by Serena
Wagner's book The Sweet Sawmist now availed on Amazon. This
book includes thirty exquisite paintings by well known and unknown
painters and King David Soalms. The sweets Amist gives us
a new perspective on his life in this book through
the songs he wrote. His time as a shepherd in
the field is where the book starts, and it goes
on to describe his complicated and turbulent relationship with King Saul,
(32:27):
as well as other events. It's a story of love, betrayal, repentance,
and more. It also offers advice on approaching God and
living a life that pleases him. Check out the book
The Sweet Salmist by Serena Wagner, now available on Amazon
keywords Sweet Sawmist Serena Wagner.
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