Canadian entrepreneur/author John Brink shares his amazing story of resilience, vision,& generosity!
October 28, 2025 • 57 mins
Canadian entrepreneur/prolific author John Brink shares his amazing story of resilience, vision, and generosity from enduring harrowing conditions during the turmoil of World War II in the Hunger Winter of ’44-’45 to beginning his career at a major Dutch lumber company, later forming Brink Forest Products and becoming the President/CEO of Brink Group of Companies overseeing more than 10 additional enterprises! John is the author of numerous prolific books including “Living Young Dying Old”, “Finding Your Passion Living The Dream”, “ADHD Unlocked”, “Against All Odds” plus his upcoming release “Billion Dollar Communication Skills” as he explains the mastering of the art of powerful communication while unlocking your full potential in today’s hyper-connected world, and a passionate advocate of raising awareness of ADHD and the stories behind his ventures and works! Check out the amazing John Brink and all his works at www.johnabrink.com today! #podmatch #johnbrink #author #entrepreneur #billiondollarcommunicationskills #worldwarII #holland #brinkforestproducts #brinkgroupcompanies #livingyoungdyingold #adhdunlocked #ADHD #againstallodds #spreaker #iheartradio #spotify #applemusic #youtube #anchorfm #bitchute #rumble #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagnerjohnbrink #themikewagnershowjohnbrink
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entrepreneur born in nineteen forty and naziaqipied Holland during the
turmoil of World War two, and he's also his follow
got drafted into the Dutch Army and absent living an
uncertainty of Canadian soldiers on liber at their village in
forty five. Also served two years in the Dutch Air
Force Emmigrant Canada in sixty five. That's where he's currently
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at right now. And I also appointed at a May
Guid's apprentice and a major Dutch lumber company of fifteen
moved up the ranks and later formed his own company
and passionate about advocate for raising warnams of ADHD. And
he's got a new book that's coming out very soon.
We'll talk more about that live Ladies and Gentlemen plus
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and entrepreneur and the author of a brand new bookle
Get That Ladies and Gentlemen, The Multi Tient, John Brain
John Goodbarning, Good afternoon, good Eving, Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Thanks Miank. You pleasure to be on your show.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's great to have you on board as well too.
So you're an author, entrepreneur. Boord in nineteen forty and
Nazy occupied Holland and your finally got drafted in a
Dutch army, and you guys have been there for a
while until Canadian soldiers Liver and Vilgium in forty five
served two years in the Dutch Air Force Emigray Canada
and sixty five that you're currently at. You got apprentice
(02:57):
at a major Dutch lumber company. Fifteen you'm up at
the rank of other lumber yards and you got your
own company and it's called Brainforest Products. And your passion
and an advocate for raising awareness of ADHD. And you
got a brand new book called Billion Dollar Communication Skills,
and plus some other books like Living Young, Dying Old,
and Warm Forget Noah, John, tell us how I first
(03:19):
got started? Say again, tell us how you first got started?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Actually, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I was, as I said earlier, I was born in
nineteen forty November one, nineteen forty actually in northern Holland.
And we, as you already said, we've liberated on up
April the twelve, nineteen forty five by the Canadian Army.
It made such an impression on me as a five
year old that I knew from that point forward as
(03:52):
I grew up, I would go to the land of
my heroes, Canada. And so I was initially going to
go when I was seventeen. My parents said no, too young,
and then I was then drafted into the Dutch Air
Force for two years, a little more than two years actually,
and then I emigrated when I was twenty three and
(04:15):
left to go to British Columbia. And the reason that
I wanted to go to British Columbia I want to
buy a build a lumber mill. And my grandfather was
a master cardment My dad worked in a lumber and obviously,
at a very young age, academically I was not exactly
a success story. I failed grade three, I failed grade
(04:36):
seven three times.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And they said, what.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
We're gonna do is this guy and some people said
send him to the mentally challenged school.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
He said, no, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So they then decided, at twelve and a half years old,
they're going to make me a furniture Amaica. So they
sent me to a furniture factory. But I worked.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And kids can be hard on each other, and all
the kids that I went to school was that went
on to college and university kind of looked down on
me because I became a laborer. I'm proud of that today,
but then it was kind of looked down at. So
I kind of felt that it was time for me
to start from the beginning and that I was just
(05:19):
as smart as all the others, not smarter them, but
just as smart as the others. But for me, it
was a question starting new in a new country, in
particular Canada. In Holland, at worked this way. No matter
what you do in life, you get married, or you
buy a house, or you go to a bank, you
get interviewed for the job, or you want to become
(05:40):
an entrepreneur. The question is always very new diplomats. Well,
I didn't have any diplomas.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now, now, was there requirement in Holland to have a
diploma or a start a business there?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh? Yeah, very much.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So yeah, that nobody will lend you any money if
you did not, you know, so it was kind of expected,
you know, so that if I said I studied three
times three years of grade seven and failed all three
of them, then that would not be a positive on
(06:15):
my resume.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So in an event in Canada, nobody ever asked me
that question.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So when I came to Canada in July of nineteen
sixty five, krids big blames, didn't know sold didn't have
a job. I wanted to start from the bottom up.
I took the train from Montreal to Vancouver four days,
five nights.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
By god, that is a long way.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Anyway, came off the train and Vancouver, went to the
emigration office. Couldspeak English, and fortunately there was a German
fellaw there and I could speak some German. I told
him I wanted to build a Limba mill, he said,
go to Prince George. Prince George, as I said earlier,
five hundred miles north of Vancouver or eight on the
(07:00):
cue maators for our European friends. And it's in the
center of British Columbia, not to south east to west.
So I came off the bus here and I had
one suitcase, three books, two sets of clothes, and I
counted my money at least three times. I had exactly
(07:23):
twenty five dollars and forty seven cents.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh my gosh, you're a rich man by today's standards.
I'll tell you. I try talking you know, in India,
Pakistan or wherever, it's like you're a rich man even
or on media's like twenty five to forty seven you're
considered a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So in any event, twenty five dollars forty seven cents.
So I had a positive attitude. Attitude is critically important.
I avoid negative. I had a passion still do for
all the things that I do, I give it on
the twenty five percent and work ethic. Even today, I
work harder and then anybody. And so I usually get
(08:04):
up at five thirty in the morning. I always make
my bed, and I would think I'm late, And so
I started from the ground up as a clean up man,
then a lumber pilot and a sawmill. Within a year,
I was already a supervisor and then we quickly became
a super superintendent. Then got an offer to become part
(08:26):
owner of a little sawmill, and I did that, and
so that didn't really go quick enough for me, and
then I started my own company called bring Force Poducts
exactly fifty years ago in July in nineteen sixty seventy five,
(08:47):
so now twenty twenty. So I've been in business for
fifty years. As the first company started with three employees,
worked seven days a week as long as they could stay,
did all the things that you have to do, uh
you know, build it, vomb the ground up virtually and
then obviously going through the ups and down successful since
(09:12):
the time started another ten different companies. So my silos
today are lumber manufacturing. I have a number of companies
and a number of different northern areas. The second one
is rare Housing Distribution and logistics be the largest rare
housing company in northern Ridgst, Columbia. The other one is
(09:33):
real estate, is a residential commercial in the industrial here
in Northern bcb amount Elijah once there. And the other
one is media. And the media is obviously I'm a presenter,
you know, in demand.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I'm an author.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Now working on my sixth book and seventh actually, and
then at the same time, I'm very active in podcasting,
you know, be approaching a million subscribers on YouTube wow,
and are very active and a little bit and so
I'm looking at setting up our own platform.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And you're also a bodybuild as well too. You forgot
to mention that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm the oldest competitive bodybuilder in North America.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And so, oh my god, you's amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
That's a picture of me and as eighty five.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I did bodybuilding competitively and
Northern BC came in second bodybuilding through it in physique,
qualify me for the provincial did the same there, qualify
me for the Nationals and the Arnolds, and then COVID
came and so now I'm again getting ready for another
(10:54):
year in twenty twenty six, again competing competitively at the
Arnolds and the Nationals.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing. How'd your first get star
body building?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Mike, is that that is always something that happens that
kind of wakes you up in a way. Is that
it probably was in two thousand and eight. Up to
then I was in okay shape, but not as good
as I could be. And then I got a case
of diverticulitis and.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Oh yeah, the one on the side that pays everything.
I had that head to go emergency room. That was
no fun. And I gotta say this, I confess I
eight too much popcorner chips.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And so for me at ruptured and so and you
have about forty eight hours because before the toxins go
through your body, and then your life is really in
danger because of the toxicity of you know, your colon.
And so I got to the hospital and more than
(12:05):
forty eight hours later they operated me, took out twenty
centimeters out of my colon. And the following morning, the
doc came up to me and he said, you came disclose.
That gave me a signal. My wife's been with me
for the last forty years. Uh forty two actually, uh
(12:27):
you know, the is a vegetarian. And although I was
not abusive necessarily in my diet, but I didn't do
as well as I could have and shoot have and
then I didn't do as much.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I was just one of the categories every year.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And you make a decision, I'm going to do this, that, that,
that and that and the other thing and this, that
and that, and then.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I'm going to buy a membership to the gym.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then she that's a great typical on January again,
membership February kind of tails off. March was like, okay,
next year, I understand that.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So that's what I say. Two weeks later. You can
find a hundred reasons.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Thats why you're busy, right, and so but I knew, no, no,
I have to do my diet.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I have to be much more careful. And I did.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And then the other part, in terms of the gym,
I hired a trainer, and in two thousand and nine,
after I recovered from my operation diet of the dive
Ta gelidis, I started going to the gym now sixteen
years ago and became very very serious about fitness and
(13:37):
health and well being. And so it was about six
years or so and then somebody came up to us
in the gym, to me and my trainer, and he said, hey, John,
have you and I was in my mid seventies. Have
you ever thought about bodybuilding? I said me, yeah, you
and I said why not? They gave me a go,
and so that's what I did. Obviously call it fight
(14:00):
all the way up to the Arnolds and National and
then since that time, now sixteen years later, I'm still
working out very very frequent and all doing the week
four days a week, and then being very careful with
my diet stay in shape. The other thing that you
(14:20):
may find interesting, I do all the shopping for my
wife and myself, and if I go to the grocery store,
I stay at the outside because in the mid size
and the aisles is all the process and super process.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
If you don't know what'll stand in it, you don't
want to eat it, you know. So, and so we
stay as much as we can with the green. So
my wife is a vegetarian. As I said earlier, I'm
probably eighty twenty or maybe even ninety sent and so
that works well for me. And so one of the
most important things that I do is that every morning
(15:02):
I have ten hours before I do anything. I have
ten ounces of water every morning, and then from there
on in I you know, I'm very careful with my
breakfast and what I do. I have three eggs and
then an avocado usually or half of one. And then
(15:25):
I'm very careful with my diet during the daytime and
in the evenings.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
And then the.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Other part obviously what I do is you know, then
going to the gym, staying fit, and then the other
part very very important in my life. I sleep seven
to nine hours a day, which is also very very important.
So I have a structure. I like it, I enjoy it,
(15:51):
but I'm very very careful about it and very deliberate
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And I think you've done great as well too. It's
a quite quite a contrast to what you went through
in World War Two, and especially in the one significant
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Before we talk about your last book, Billion Dollar Communication Skills.
You didn't have that luxury in World War Two, and
especially one of the most significant ones was the Devastating
Hunger Winner of nineteen forty four and forty five. And
(18:49):
what was it like around that time? Tell us about
the experience and life and what was like growing up
in World War Two.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yes, that's a very good question, Mike, specially now because
we are just out of May. You know, the liberation
or the capitulation of the German Army was made.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
The Fifth is being celebrated in Europe.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And then obviously in April we were in Northern Holland
liberated by the Canadian Army. Abril the twelve, nineteen forty five,
we saw far too much that we should not have seen.
I still still remembered as a five year old people
that were shot, or we had a neighbor that was
shot that I always remembered. And other things happened, you know,
(19:35):
wagons diving y his legs out of the side, that
people that got caught during the war. Since we were
in the north eastern part of Holland within ten to
fifteen minutes of the border, the obviously the Allied functions
landed in Normandy, pushed through the France. The Canadians went
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north through France, Belgium and then through the west side
of Hull and then pushed towards the German border through
the north. That's where we were in nineteen forty four.
I remember it was the hunger. They had cut off
all the food supply to Holland. And as kids, my brother,
my sister that were two years older than me and
(20:16):
one year older than me, and myself, every morning we
would go with gunnysacks to the railroad yard pick up
anything edible and burnable. And then the winter of nineteen
forty four forty five was the coldest on record, and
I still remembered the cold and the heat from the
little heater that we had, but in that little room
(20:38):
and the house the only one that we could heat.
And I still even now still feel the feeling of
hunger and a lot of older people died or young
kids died that did not have food. So the boy
years are still in my mind. PTSD is still part
(21:00):
of me. I was got counseling for the ender child,
the little boy that was had anxiety of losing his
parents during the war. Has happened to other ones and
that always kind of stayed with me, and I got
counseling for that in my fifties year in Canada. Actually
(21:21):
very emotional, but very very important. And so that war war.
It's not once the war is over everything goes back
to normal a dozen It may take generations in fact,
and even now still I have I feel I have
an obligation to speak about it on the remembering Day,
(21:44):
November the eleventh. During that week I may make presentations
to at least two or three different schools in British Columbia,
mainly to share with them. But I believe by the
two minutes of silence is it's so important for us
and together to understand the benefits of peace and and
(22:09):
and the things that will happen during war and how
it stays with you and and.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
All you have to look at do is look around
the world.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
How fortunate we are to the Ukraine, Russia, the Middle
East now in particular, and all the other things that
are happening. We are so fortunate in North America compared
to a lot of those companies.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And also thought about when you mentioned about, you know,
being Dutch army and all that your father was in
the Dutch army as well too, but he was normally
absent as well, and you know that was like, you know,
something on if you want to talk about that, but
you know, having that was like really difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But you can mention. My mom and dad got married
in nineteen thirty eight. They were in love and they
had rented a little house. My dad worked at the
lumber companies, so they got in Paradise. And then obviously
in thirty nineteen thirty nine, Hitler decided, then the tyrant
of running Germany decided that they should incorporate Poland into Germany.
(23:20):
And then after they did that, then it was obvious
they would try to invade Encapitlate Holland and some of
the other companies on in Western Europe. And then my
dad was called on May the fifth, in April actually
(23:41):
of nineteen forty forty, he was called into the Dutch
army and the last time that they heard from him
or saw him was and just before Rotterdam was bombed.
So the Germans didn't feel that decapitulated quick enough in Holland,
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and as an example, they bombed this huge city, Rotterdam,
and the last time as I said, that he saw
my dad was doing that bombing, and for five years
my mom would not know if he survived or lived
until after the war. He did live, but came back
(24:22):
after deliberation, but after being gone for five years and
him having seen far too much that he should not
have seen. I always remember he had a helmet with
him and in the helmet was a bullet hole that
it passed right by his head within a fraction of
an inch, And so he was never the same, I believe,
(24:48):
and he didn't talk about the war and had always
stayed with him. Resulted in I believe, substantially having drinking
ish use alcohol issues and was successful in a lot
of ways, but still alcohol was a way of shielding
(25:10):
the memories of war, I believe, and for them as
a family. Things were never quite the same again, and.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I think that was part of a PTSD at his then.
Of course, back in the day, it was shell shock.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah absolutely, you know, so the yeah so and all
of that is still part of what we remember so
well and uh you know, and but I believe it
is very very important for me. I was there even
as a five year old and seeing a half years old,
I remember what it did. I remember the army coming through,
(25:49):
I remember seeing dead bodies and so uh so it
always stayed with me, and I feel that I have
an obligation to ship we had with young people in particular.
That's why for the last ten twelve years, that's why
I do at least two or three different schools. I
speak to them about why did two minutes of silence?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
What does? What did they mean?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It sounds to me that, you know, you hear about
Nazi invasions like in England, France, Poland and everything else.
You know. Recently I talked to somebody they experience the
invasion in Ausha's never mentioned history, and I think in
Denmark and Hollow was never mentioned until now exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah so, but very very important to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And then the other part is that you know, if
he be so lucky here in North America, Canada and
the United States are so similar, you know, but if
I look at other places like Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela,
North Korea, and I can go on and on and on,
(27:03):
we are so fortunate and so lucky that we have
democratic rule and to preserve that is very, very important.
And I remember after the Second World War that when
you know, Western Europe and other places were in turmoil,
(27:24):
the Marshall Plan came in h mainly driven by the
Allied forces in particularly the United States, Canada and the
UK trying to rebuild Europe. And that always stayed with
us as being thankful for being liberated and how important
(27:49):
it was to rebuild Western Europe. And subsequently a lot
of people from Western Europe in the Eastern Europe emigrated to.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
The United States, Canada and other places.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And the other part, Mike, that I believe so so
important about democratic rule is and there are always challenges
even in democratic societies, but I believe the foundation in
the United States and the same in Canada, but in
the United States in particular because they give they are
(28:24):
the example of two hundred and fifty years of democratic rule.
And the foundation is their constitution, which starts with three.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Words we the people. People. That's what is the foundation.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And then all the politics that happens in between will
all pass and and and make sure that in the
medium long term we remain democratic rule.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Mh. And of course, you know, you seem to have
a love for people as well too, and you enjoy
connecting with people and have a passion for humans and everything.
And what what was your beginning for, like, you know,
having love connecting with other humans. I mean, we need
more connections than ever.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So the you know, when I first came in Canada
obviously was I couldn't speak the language and uh, you know,
and and started as a clean up man, and it
took time for me to learn to speak English and uh,
you know so and then in Holland when I grew
up there, especially during difficult times, I had challenges that
(29:39):
uh and and then obviously it was not successful academically.
The other thing you remember you already mentioned earlier, is
that it was much later that I found that my
challenges in school, failing grades three and failing grade seven
three times were related.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
In my opinion, onion to Adhd, and I wrote.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
A book about that. And so I had never even
heard of Adhd until I found a book much thirty
years after I came in Canada, and by pure coincidence,
I picked up a book in the bookstore and the
book style was driven to distraction. And the morning I
read it and looked at it in the bookstore, I said,
(30:23):
oh my god, that's me Adhd.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And what's happened in ninety five? Then pretty much it was.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You know, so I came in nineteen sixty five, thirty
two years later, in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh, thirty two years, I said, thirty Okay, now I
got it within that range.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And and I still have the book, and don't I
have it on my in my studio where I do podcasting.
Here I'm in the boardroom of one of my companies.
But you know, so I have the book still driven
to distraction. I opened the book and I wrote inside
the book and that now I finally know who I am.
(31:03):
And it was January nineteen ninety seven, after I'd been
here for thirty two years. And so the more I
found out about it, read the book and it's written
by doctor hilliwell, and he's an amazing individual, wrote eighteen books.
He has dyslexia and he's ADHD.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh my gosh, what a combination.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And so am I and so and now the more
I had read about it and Google, I call it
a superpower. And a lot of people say a lot
of people say to me, how do you do all
those things? You have ten companies, you're a speaker, you
do podcasting, you write books.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
How do you do all this stuff? I say, ADHD,
That's how I do it?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Or wait a minute, I think I have another one.
You talk about dyslection in ADHD. How about dadhd D? Yeah,
no way, DHD dad HD. I think that's appropriate one
exactly exactly, Oh my gosh. And of course you've had
some success. You also wrote a book about billion doarc
(32:11):
communication skills? You make a billion dollars. I guess we'll
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Speaker 4 (34:23):
You heard me?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We're back to author John Brink of Billion Dollar communication
skills here on the Mike Wagner's show, and he's got
the book out right now. Before that, you talked about
living young, Dying old. Your showed ADHD Unlocked and how
about maybe a couple of other's like finding your passion,
living the Dream? Tell us more about that.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes, now, that was another one, and here's the book
that I wrote about that is that I've watched something.
I talked to a lot of younger people and universities
and presentations, and then a lot of times I ask
some of them, what do you plan to do after
university and a lot of them say I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I said, like most people got to heart aust A Loans.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's important that you kind of know.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
And so then I watched another TV is I don't
know about CNN or ABC about we watched a lot
of US television anyway, They said that in the United States,
seventy five percent of the people that work don't like
their jobs. In seventy percent of the seventy five percent,
(35:38):
I'm looking for another job. I believe it's the same
in Canada as the United States.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And so the pretty much parallel, right, seventy seventy five
percent they hate their jobs. They wish I had know
the job, So they're kind of parallel.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Correct. Oh wow, Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So what I'm suggesting to the people, and the young
people in particularly I talked to, so it is important
to kind of explore but opportunity. What do you really
like to do? And it's about finding your passion. What
do you like to do? Because if you spend most
(36:13):
of your life for all of us twenty thirty forty
years in a job that you don't like, that's not
very good, and you take it home with you, it
affects you and your personality.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And the family and the kids, then they're.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Giving that everything.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
So I say, if you want to be a truck diver,
talk to a truck diver. Shoot you a house, short haul,
long haulse shoot you own a truck, not own the truck.
Blah blah blah, on and on. Or you want to
be a contractor you want to build houses, talk to
a contract and they all love to talk to people
that are exploring.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
What you do.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And or you want to be a lawyer, or you
want to be a dog, or you want to be
a consultant of some description or another, all of that
is available. But you explore it all for that matter,
you want to be an entrepreneur. I always if somebody
comes to me and say, John, would you have can
(37:11):
I have a coffee with you to explore some of
the things that I am thinking about doing, And I
would say, sure, you know, and I always encourage that,
and I believe that's very, very important because the statistics
of having seventy five presented of the people not liking
their job and having to look for another job is
(37:34):
not a good one.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
And also not liking our boss, not like in our
co workers, not like in the environment, especially got toxic
environments which have been on the rises of late. Exactly right,
And of course you've been through everything like that. And
before we talk a book against all odds, I forgot
to ask you this question, though, Was it one? Was
it one precise moment that got you starting to writing books?
(37:56):
And how'd you first get starting books? I forgot to
ask you that earlier.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah, no worries about that.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know a lot of times already, you know, people
said to me, hey, John, you have such an interesting life,
you should write a book about it. So for about
twenty years, writing books is not easy. And I started
writing and it stopped, started against stopped, stopped, and so
on and so forth.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
And then when I.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Was in my mid seventies, I knew if I didn't
do it now, it would never happen. So I started
against all odds. Is this one. It's not about how
successful John is. In fact, to the contrary, it's about
all the ups and downs. So this book took me
eighty years to live it, twenty years to think about it,
(38:45):
two years to write it, and so and then from there,
and once I did that, I added to that ADHD
and then the next one, living young, dying old, you know,
and finding your passion and now obviously billion dollar communication skills.
(39:06):
And the reason that I do the billion dollar communication skills.
All the books are connected in a way, and there
is nothing more important, and that is nothing more or
least taught in a structural setting about becoming an effective
(39:27):
communicator and so and the reason that I wrote this
because not about how to become a billionaire. You could
maybe accomplish that in the meantime, but that's not what
the book is about. It's about communication skills. And all
those billionaires became, through circumstances very effective communicators and that's
(39:52):
the point, and for me that was important, especially growing
up in northeastern Holland. Be started with speaking dialect. If
I speak dialect, nobody in the rest of Hollands can
understand me. And it was not until I'm wanted into
the Air Force that I had learned to speak High
(40:13):
Dutch and so and I was there actually in my
early twenties twenty one, you know about. And then the
next thing two years later, after I got that under control,
I go to Canada and could speak the language. I
had to get that part under control, and then I
(40:33):
wanted to go further than that, and it took time,
and now I believe I'm a pretty good communicator.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I was gonna ask you something to talk about dialect.
When you learned they went up to the Air Force,
you learned High Dutch. What's the difference between the dialect
and High.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Dutch Dialect is more regional in all the words not
the same, the tone is not the same. And because
it's in the northeastern part of Holland, there is a
tendency in that region that are farmers and a lot
(41:13):
of people and the rest of Holland. If you speak
High Dutch and you have dialect or have an accent
that is dialect. Is there always a farmer and and
so you know, so that is the difference. So if
you want to become successful in business in Holland outside
(41:38):
of the region or even in the region, you must
be able to articulate your thoughts and.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
To high Dutch.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So that's the only two that you have, right or
is there another one?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So well, I speak Dutch dialect, I can speak some
German and then English.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Obviously, Okay, I was just going to get to that
because here in the United States you have other accent
It's got your Midwest accent, you got your New York
and Boston accent, you got your Southern accent, you got
your Texas West Coast accent, and I think you got
your the Northern Plains as well too. And yeah, you
got some various dialects. So and I think I was
(42:19):
a German English And what what other languages that do
you speak or what a language would you like to learn?
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, that's a that's a good question, Mike.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I always wanted to learn to speak Spanish nice and
I like Spanish that you know, the structure of Spanish
is very interesting and obviously it's a good one to
learn because Spanish is spoken and numerous numerous areas obviously
(42:52):
around the world, and uh, you know, at some point
I may do that, you know so.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And I think that's really great. And getting back to
building out communication skills with John breaking the mic when
your show and you talked about the excellent effective communication
skills most billionaires have, most successful people. What are the
more common traits that these effective communicators have, special.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Billingers, are you asking me, yes.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
What are the more effective ones? What do they have
in common? I was just asking common traits.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
That's a very good question. So for me, I was
didn't used to be a good communicator for all the
reasons that I gave you, and it affected my business
in a way. Even when I started and already was
successful in business, I was not very good to do
and that action was a number of people I could
(43:48):
do was two or three and part of my company
until an existent law set to me.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
And probably mid.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Eighties, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty five, seven eighty nine. At
nineteen ninety she took me to an organization called toast Masters.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's an excellent organization. Highly recommend everybody that's very high recommended.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
So I want there and I said what do they do?
He said, well, they developed communication skills. And I said,
are you going to ask me any questions? Said no,
you just sit.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
There and watch.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I said, okay. So I sat that and watched, and
then in the middle of the meeting somebody said, hey, John,
tell us all about yourself. And said, oh my god,
I'll never go back here, but I did. I stayed
there for ten years. So I became a Distinguished toast Master,
which is the highest level less than one percent worldwide
(44:47):
of toast masters or DTMs.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
So just thingish those.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Matters, and that does not mean a lot of other people.
They stay in toast Masters and child the acquired, but
ever school's the skills you're looking for the acquire but
usually don't stay to get all the way to DTM.
That changed my ability to clearly thinking, to become a
(45:14):
very good listener first and foremost, and then to be
able to articulate my thoughts. And part of that is
the training and toast Masters, and I speak about that
as well in this book. Is that you know, so
the most important skills that I learned at toast Masters
(45:37):
is to become a good listener. The other one is
thinking on your feet. That's important, and that's important, and
then and then develop presentations and then for me developed
self confidence. And so public speaking is a lot of
(45:59):
people say, a lot of people would sooner die. Then
have to be become a speaker in front of a
group of people. I know the feeling, and I become
a very very good presenter. And then natural from nature
and obviously I'm doing well in podcasting is that I'm
(46:24):
a storyteller and that's what I do in my books.
I'm a storyteller. And then obviously I'm a good listener.
And if we look at this book from the billionaires
that became successful and others, is what made them successful?
(46:45):
Communication skills they acquirted in different ways. And that's why
I wrote the book as to find what made them successful,
because without that it is highly unlikely that they have
become billionaires.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I think that's really important out there, and I think
that's really great. And plus you talked about podcasting. You
got your show called on the Brink. Tell us more
about that.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, so you know the probably five six years ago, Mike,
I already liked the idea of blogging and six seven
years ago probably, and and so I did part of
that on a local level. And then the next thing
is that I started to interact with a local television station,
(47:39):
bring in people from the region that were interesting, and
then kind of looked at We did so many of it,
and I liked it, and it was successful regionally in
local television. I thought, maybe what I have to do
is set up another television or podcasting station and Vancouver
(48:00):
I had an apartment there. And then the moment we
thought about it, then the next thing COVID happened, and
all of a sudden, we couldn't do that anymore in
the television station, and that I had a studio in
an apartment, said let's start it an into studio and
we did that. And then the next thing is let's
join pot Match. And pot Match is very well known.
(48:25):
Check it out on Google is where they matching individuals
from around the world that have similarities. And then it
gave us a whole new world to interact with. And so,
as I said, for illustration only, not to city it
(48:47):
and brag about it. But I've done probably approaching four
hundred and fifty podcast where I am the host, and
probably another two hundred and two in fifty that I'm
a guest, and then obviously on YouTube be approaching a
million subscribers on the podcast, so immensely powerful. It's only
(49:12):
on its infancy Mike, in my opinion, and it's going
to go much much further.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
And you continue to you're being a passionate advcot for
raising wearers of ADHD. So you know once again to
talk about that and just keep the fire burning for
that follows ADHD.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
And so what I do is that, you know, my
podcast thing may may not include from time to time
issues around ADHD. The other thing that's so amazing about it, Mike,
is I believe I did podcast last week that did
three podcasts of ladies in particular in that case by
(49:51):
coincidence is that that Variet the doctors are PhD or
whatever they were on different topics, all three of them
never really told anybody ADHD.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Wow, Okay, can you believe it? So?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
And then doctor halliwell that wrote the book you know
so and my podcast on the brink for those that
want to see him driven to distraction is I did
a podcast with him on my Underbring podcast two hundred
(50:33):
and three, and I think I'm now at.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Four twenty seven, twenty eight or whatever we are. But
two of three is.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
A podcast with dtor helliwell that he wrote the book
that I picked up in nineteen ninety three. I picked
up the book in the store here in January of
nineteen ninety seven, and I podcasted him in twenty twenty four.
I believe my podcast is two hundred and three. And
(51:03):
then I picked up his book I read about it
changed my life, no question.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
That is certainly amazing as well too. And of course
if you find out more, where can we check your podcast?
And how do we get ahold of your books? And
what's your website?
Speaker 5 (51:23):
John?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
The best way to get a hold of my books
and all of the other things. They are available on
all the platforms that you mentioned earlier, and the best
way to find out what I'd be.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Doing is John J.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
O h n asn Adam or Errands Brink b r
I n K dot com.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
That's Johnabrink dot com. Correct, All right, Well, certainly check
that out. Have eyb go to that we're here amazing
author of billion dollar communication skills and more, John Brinkcare
and the Mike. When your show, John says a few
more things. What else can we expect twenty twenty five
and beyond.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
So, you know, all my silos, I'm still intending to
grow my companies and uh, you know, so on all
the platforms.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
A ring, So sorry about it.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I just been oh that okay, I thought there was
a kiddy over there, squirrel or something. So it's like
I've had that happen too. It's like, is it right
or right?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (52:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So the funny part here is that I have an earpiece,
you know, I didn't hear and and so then the
phone rings. Scott is sitting here, he didn't hear the
phone ring, but I hear it in my ear anyway.
So what am I going to do is all the silos,
the lumber, the bare housing, the real estate and and
(52:48):
the media. I want to start a platform. And so
in the next two to three months, I'm going to
write another. But I'm working on two other books.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
And then in the meantime, I want to stay fit.
I want to get ready.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
I go train, you know, stay physically fit.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Uh, you know, stay enjoying my diet. The amazing think, Mike,
is that I love going to the gym nice and
so for some people it's difficult. I say, stay the course,
and then if you do, then after a while, but
(53:30):
will happen, and you don't have to all become Olympians
or bodybuilders, but stay fit and the amazing things that
will happen. Somebody will say, hey Mike or hey John,
you look good, but do you do blah blah blah,
and you start feeling better. The same is diet. You know,
drink a glass of water ten ounce water in the mornings,
(53:52):
get seven to nine hours sleep, use vitamin D, sunshine
and then you know, go to the gym, get exercise,
both heavyweights and cardio, and then diet is extremely important.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
And that's so important as well too. And I got
to say that, you know, you've been eighty five means
sixty one. You're very pretty cool. Dad, I got to
say that, so oh, it's certainly amazing. And who do
you consider biggest influence in career?
Speaker 2 (54:26):
In my career, probably my dad was as an example
for me and you know us being very very hard
working and considering the challenges that he had along the
way as being an inspiration to me.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Okay, And what's the best advice you can give to
any byte? This point, say again, what's the best advice
you can give to any byte This.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Point attitude, passion, work, ethic, but will follow is success.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
That is certainly paramount is what too. Here're the amazing
author John Brink and entrepreneur of billion dollar communication skills
here in the Mike water Show. John, a very big
thank you time, You've been apps amazing, learned a lot
looking forward, hamn soon keeps up they keep in touch,
Lave I be back, We wish ourf s and before
we go, what's your website? How do people contact you?
Bring people purchase or check out your books?
Speaker 5 (55:19):
John abri dot.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Com, Johnabrink dot com, we will certainly check that out
once again, John, A very big thanks you time, you've
been totally amazing looking forehand soon keeps up to date,
keep in touch, Lav i've you back. We wish our
best and John, you def have a great feature.
Speaker 5 (55:35):
At What's a Pleasure Mike Chica.
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me ask you something real quick. Why do you read
a book. You're buying a story, a thought, a message,
and a good book entertains and inspires. And that's exactly
what's a missing by award winning author me on the
Zia does. I have his book right here, and it's
based on real events with relatable characters that hook you
(56:29):
from start to finish. I personally love this book. It's
super powerful and meaningful through you can actually get it
on Amazon right now.
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through the songs he wrote his time as a shepherd
in the field is will. The book starts and it
goes on to describe a complicated and turbulent relationship with
King Saul, as well as other events. It's a story
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Get That Ladies and Gentlemen, The Multi Tient, John Brain
John Goodbarning, Good afternoon, good Eving, Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Thanks Miank. You pleasure to be on your show.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's great to have you on board as well too.
So you're an author, entrepreneur. Boord in nineteen forty and
Nazy occupied Holland and your finally got drafted in a
Dutch army, and you guys have been there for a
while until Canadian soldiers Liver and Vilgium in forty five
served two years in the Dutch Air Force Emigray Canada
and sixty five that you're currently at. You got apprentice
(02:57):
at a major Dutch lumber company. Fifteen you'm up at
the rank of other lumber yards and you got your
own company and it's called Brainforest Products. And your passion
and an advocate for raising awareness of ADHD. And you
got a brand new book called Billion Dollar Communication Skills,
and plus some other books like Living Young, Dying Old,
and Warm Forget Noah, John, tell us how I first
(03:19):
got started? Say again, tell us how you first got started?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Actually, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I was, as I said earlier, I was born in
nineteen forty November one, nineteen forty actually in northern Holland.
And we, as you already said, we've liberated on up
April the twelve, nineteen forty five by the Canadian Army.
It made such an impression on me as a five
year old that I knew from that point forward as
(03:52):
I grew up, I would go to the land of
my heroes, Canada. And so I was initially going to
go when I was seventeen. My parents said no, too young,
and then I was then drafted into the Dutch Air
Force for two years, a little more than two years actually,
and then I emigrated when I was twenty three and
(04:15):
left to go to British Columbia. And the reason that
I wanted to go to British Columbia I want to
buy a build a lumber mill. And my grandfather was
a master cardment My dad worked in a lumber and obviously,
at a very young age, academically I was not exactly
a success story. I failed grade three, I failed grade
(04:36):
seven three times.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And they said, what.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
We're gonna do is this guy and some people said
send him to the mentally challenged school.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
He said, no, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So they then decided, at twelve and a half years old,
they're going to make me a furniture Amaica. So they
sent me to a furniture factory. But I worked.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And kids can be hard on each other, and all
the kids that I went to school was that went
on to college and university kind of looked down on
me because I became a laborer. I'm proud of that today,
but then it was kind of looked down at. So
I kind of felt that it was time for me
to start from the beginning and that I was just
(05:19):
as smart as all the others, not smarter them, but
just as smart as the others. But for me, it
was a question starting new in a new country, in
particular Canada. In Holland, at worked this way. No matter
what you do in life, you get married, or you
buy a house, or you go to a bank, you
get interviewed for the job, or you want to become
(05:40):
an entrepreneur. The question is always very new diplomats. Well,
I didn't have any diplomas.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now, now, was there requirement in Holland to have a
diploma or a start a business there?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh? Yeah, very much.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So yeah, that nobody will lend you any money if
you did not, you know, so it was kind of expected,
you know, so that if I said I studied three
times three years of grade seven and failed all three
of them, then that would not be a positive on
(06:15):
my resume.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So in an event in Canada, nobody ever asked me
that question.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So when I came to Canada in July of nineteen
sixty five, krids big blames, didn't know sold didn't have
a job. I wanted to start from the bottom up.
I took the train from Montreal to Vancouver four days,
five nights.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
By god, that is a long way.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Anyway, came off the train and Vancouver, went to the
emigration office. Couldspeak English, and fortunately there was a German
fellaw there and I could speak some German. I told
him I wanted to build a Limba mill, he said,
go to Prince George. Prince George, as I said earlier,
five hundred miles north of Vancouver or eight on the
(07:00):
cue maators for our European friends. And it's in the
center of British Columbia, not to south east to west.
So I came off the bus here and I had
one suitcase, three books, two sets of clothes, and I
counted my money at least three times. I had exactly
(07:23):
twenty five dollars and forty seven cents.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh my gosh, you're a rich man by today's standards.
I'll tell you. I try talking you know, in India,
Pakistan or wherever, it's like you're a rich man even
or on media's like twenty five to forty seven you're
considered a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So in any event, twenty five dollars forty seven cents.
So I had a positive attitude. Attitude is critically important.
I avoid negative. I had a passion still do for
all the things that I do, I give it on
the twenty five percent and work ethic. Even today, I
work harder and then anybody. And so I usually get
(08:04):
up at five thirty in the morning. I always make
my bed, and I would think I'm late, And so
I started from the ground up as a clean up man,
then a lumber pilot and a sawmill. Within a year,
I was already a supervisor and then we quickly became
a super superintendent. Then got an offer to become part
(08:26):
owner of a little sawmill, and I did that, and
so that didn't really go quick enough for me, and
then I started my own company called bring Force Poducts
exactly fifty years ago in July in nineteen sixty seventy five,
(08:47):
so now twenty twenty. So I've been in business for
fifty years. As the first company started with three employees,
worked seven days a week as long as they could stay,
did all the things that you have to do, uh
you know, build it, vomb the ground up virtually and
then obviously going through the ups and down successful since
(09:12):
the time started another ten different companies. So my silos
today are lumber manufacturing. I have a number of companies
and a number of different northern areas. The second one
is rare Housing Distribution and logistics be the largest rare
housing company in northern Ridgst, Columbia. The other one is
(09:33):
real estate, is a residential commercial in the industrial here
in Northern bcb amount Elijah once there. And the other
one is media. And the media is obviously I'm a presenter,
you know, in demand.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I'm an author.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Now working on my sixth book and seventh actually, and
then at the same time, I'm very active in podcasting,
you know, be approaching a million subscribers on YouTube wow,
and are very active and a little bit and so
I'm looking at setting up our own platform.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And you're also a bodybuild as well too. You forgot
to mention that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm the oldest competitive bodybuilder in North America.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And so, oh my god, you's amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
That's a picture of me and as eighty five.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I did bodybuilding competitively and
Northern BC came in second bodybuilding through it in physique,
qualify me for the provincial did the same there, qualify
me for the Nationals and the Arnolds, and then COVID
came and so now I'm again getting ready for another
(10:54):
year in twenty twenty six, again competing competitively at the
Arnolds and the Nationals.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing. How'd your first get star
body building?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Mike, is that that is always something that happens that
kind of wakes you up in a way. Is that
it probably was in two thousand and eight. Up to
then I was in okay shape, but not as good
as I could be. And then I got a case
of diverticulitis and.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Oh yeah, the one on the side that pays everything.
I had that head to go emergency room. That was
no fun. And I gotta say this, I confess I
eight too much popcorner chips.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And so for me at ruptured and so and you
have about forty eight hours because before the toxins go
through your body, and then your life is really in
danger because of the toxicity of you know, your colon.
And so I got to the hospital and more than
(12:05):
forty eight hours later they operated me, took out twenty
centimeters out of my colon. And the following morning, the
doc came up to me and he said, you came disclose.
That gave me a signal. My wife's been with me
for the last forty years. Uh forty two actually, uh
(12:27):
you know, the is a vegetarian. And although I was
not abusive necessarily in my diet, but I didn't do
as well as I could have and shoot have and
then I didn't do as much.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I was just one of the categories every year.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And you make a decision, I'm going to do this, that, that,
that and that and the other thing and this, that
and that, and then.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I'm going to buy a membership to the gym.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then she that's a great typical on January again,
membership February kind of tails off. March was like, okay,
next year, I understand that.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So that's what I say. Two weeks later. You can
find a hundred reasons.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Thats why you're busy, right, and so but I knew, no, no,
I have to do my diet.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I have to be much more careful. And I did.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And then the other part, in terms of the gym,
I hired a trainer, and in two thousand and nine,
after I recovered from my operation diet of the dive
Ta gelidis, I started going to the gym now sixteen
years ago and became very very serious about fitness and
(13:37):
health and well being. And so it was about six
years or so and then somebody came up to us
in the gym, to me and my trainer, and he said, hey, John,
have you and I was in my mid seventies. Have
you ever thought about bodybuilding? I said me, yeah, you
and I said why not? They gave me a go,
and so that's what I did. Obviously call it fight
(14:00):
all the way up to the Arnolds and National and
then since that time, now sixteen years later, I'm still
working out very very frequent and all doing the week
four days a week, and then being very careful with
my diet stay in shape. The other thing that you
(14:20):
may find interesting, I do all the shopping for my
wife and myself, and if I go to the grocery store,
I stay at the outside because in the mid size
and the aisles is all the process and super process.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
If you don't know what'll stand in it, you don't
want to eat it, you know. So, and so we
stay as much as we can with the green. So
my wife is a vegetarian. As I said earlier, I'm
probably eighty twenty or maybe even ninety sent and so
that works well for me. And so one of the
most important things that I do is that every morning
(15:02):
I have ten hours before I do anything. I have
ten ounces of water every morning, and then from there
on in I you know, I'm very careful with my
breakfast and what I do. I have three eggs and
then an avocado usually or half of one. And then
(15:25):
I'm very careful with my diet during the daytime and
in the evenings.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
And then the.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Other part obviously what I do is you know, then
going to the gym, staying fit, and then the other
part very very important in my life. I sleep seven
to nine hours a day, which is also very very important.
So I have a structure. I like it, I enjoy it,
(15:51):
but I'm very very careful about it and very deliberate
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And I think you've done great as well too. It's
a quite quite a contrast to what you went through
in World War Two, and especially in the one significant
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Before we talk about your last book, Billion Dollar Communication Skills.
You didn't have that luxury in World War Two, and
especially one of the most significant ones was the Devastating
Hunger Winner of nineteen forty four and forty five. And
(18:49):
what was it like around that time? Tell us about
the experience and life and what was like growing up
in World War Two.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yes, that's a very good question, Mike, specially now because
we are just out of May. You know, the liberation
or the capitulation of the German Army was made.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
The Fifth is being celebrated in Europe.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And then obviously in April we were in Northern Holland
liberated by the Canadian Army. Abril the twelve, nineteen forty five,
we saw far too much that we should not have seen.
I still still remembered as a five year old people
that were shot, or we had a neighbor that was
shot that I always remembered. And other things happened, you know,
(19:35):
wagons diving y his legs out of the side, that
people that got caught during the war. Since we were
in the north eastern part of Holland within ten to
fifteen minutes of the border, the obviously the Allied functions
landed in Normandy, pushed through the France. The Canadians went
(19:55):
north through France, Belgium and then through the west side
of Hull and then pushed towards the German border through
the north. That's where we were in nineteen forty four.
I remember it was the hunger. They had cut off
all the food supply to Holland. And as kids, my brother,
my sister that were two years older than me and
(20:16):
one year older than me, and myself, every morning we
would go with gunnysacks to the railroad yard pick up
anything edible and burnable. And then the winter of nineteen
forty four forty five was the coldest on record, and
I still remembered the cold and the heat from the
little heater that we had, but in that little room
(20:38):
and the house the only one that we could heat.
And I still even now still feel the feeling of
hunger and a lot of older people died or young
kids died that did not have food. So the boy
years are still in my mind. PTSD is still part
(21:00):
of me. I was got counseling for the ender child,
the little boy that was had anxiety of losing his
parents during the war. Has happened to other ones and
that always kind of stayed with me, and I got
counseling for that in my fifties year in Canada. Actually
(21:21):
very emotional, but very very important. And so that war war.
It's not once the war is over everything goes back
to normal a dozen It may take generations in fact,
and even now still I have I feel I have
an obligation to speak about it on the remembering Day,
(21:44):
November the eleventh. During that week I may make presentations
to at least two or three different schools in British Columbia,
mainly to share with them. But I believe by the
two minutes of silence is it's so important for us
and together to understand the benefits of peace and and
(22:09):
and the things that will happen during war and how
it stays with you and and.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
All you have to look at do is look around
the world.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
How fortunate we are to the Ukraine, Russia, the Middle
East now in particular, and all the other things that
are happening. We are so fortunate in North America compared
to a lot of those companies.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And also thought about when you mentioned about, you know,
being Dutch army and all that your father was in
the Dutch army as well too, but he was normally
absent as well, and you know that was like, you know,
something on if you want to talk about that, but
you know, having that was like really difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But you can mention. My mom and dad got married
in nineteen thirty eight. They were in love and they
had rented a little house. My dad worked at the
lumber companies, so they got in Paradise. And then obviously
in thirty nineteen thirty nine, Hitler decided, then the tyrant
of running Germany decided that they should incorporate Poland into Germany.
(23:20):
And then after they did that, then it was obvious
they would try to invade Encapitlate Holland and some of
the other companies on in Western Europe. And then my
dad was called on May the fifth, in April actually
(23:41):
of nineteen forty forty, he was called into the Dutch
army and the last time that they heard from him
or saw him was and just before Rotterdam was bombed.
So the Germans didn't feel that decapitulated quick enough in Holland,
(24:01):
and as an example, they bombed this huge city, Rotterdam,
and the last time as I said, that he saw
my dad was doing that bombing, and for five years
my mom would not know if he survived or lived
until after the war. He did live, but came back
(24:22):
after deliberation, but after being gone for five years and
him having seen far too much that he should not
have seen. I always remember he had a helmet with
him and in the helmet was a bullet hole that
it passed right by his head within a fraction of
an inch, And so he was never the same, I believe,
(24:48):
and he didn't talk about the war and had always
stayed with him. Resulted in I believe, substantially having drinking
ish use alcohol issues and was successful in a lot
of ways, but still alcohol was a way of shielding
(25:10):
the memories of war, I believe, and for them as
a family. Things were never quite the same again, and.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I think that was part of a PTSD at his then.
Of course, back in the day, it was shell shock.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah absolutely, you know, so the yeah so and all
of that is still part of what we remember so
well and uh you know, and but I believe it
is very very important for me. I was there even
as a five year old and seeing a half years old,
I remember what it did. I remember the army coming through,
(25:49):
I remember seeing dead bodies and so uh so it
always stayed with me, and I feel that I have
an obligation to ship we had with young people in particular.
That's why for the last ten twelve years, that's why
I do at least two or three different schools. I
speak to them about why did two minutes of silence?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
What does? What did they mean?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It sounds to me that, you know, you hear about
Nazi invasions like in England, France, Poland and everything else.
You know. Recently I talked to somebody they experience the
invasion in Ausha's never mentioned history, and I think in
Denmark and Hollow was never mentioned until now exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah so, but very very important to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And then the other part is that you know, if
he be so lucky here in North America, Canada and
the United States are so similar, you know, but if
I look at other places like Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela,
North Korea, and I can go on and on and on,
(27:03):
we are so fortunate and so lucky that we have
democratic rule and to preserve that is very, very important.
And I remember after the Second World War that when
you know, Western Europe and other places were in turmoil,
(27:24):
the Marshall Plan came in h mainly driven by the
Allied forces in particularly the United States, Canada and the
UK trying to rebuild Europe. And that always stayed with
us as being thankful for being liberated and how important
(27:49):
it was to rebuild Western Europe. And subsequently a lot
of people from Western Europe in the Eastern Europe emigrated to.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
The United States, Canada and other places.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And the other part, Mike, that I believe so so
important about democratic rule is and there are always challenges
even in democratic societies, but I believe the foundation in
the United States and the same in Canada, but in
the United States in particular because they give they are
(28:24):
the example of two hundred and fifty years of democratic rule.
And the foundation is their constitution, which starts with three.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Words we the people. People. That's what is the foundation.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And then all the politics that happens in between will
all pass and and and make sure that in the
medium long term we remain democratic rule.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Mh. And of course, you know, you seem to have
a love for people as well too, and you enjoy
connecting with people and have a passion for humans and everything.
And what what was your beginning for, like, you know,
having love connecting with other humans. I mean, we need
more connections than ever.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So the you know, when I first came in Canada
obviously was I couldn't speak the language and uh, you know,
and and started as a clean up man, and it
took time for me to learn to speak English and uh,
you know so and then in Holland when I grew
up there, especially during difficult times, I had challenges that
(29:39):
uh and and then obviously it was not successful academically.
The other thing you remember you already mentioned earlier, is
that it was much later that I found that my
challenges in school, failing grades three and failing grade seven
three times were related.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
In my opinion, onion to Adhd, and I wrote.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
A book about that. And so I had never even
heard of Adhd until I found a book much thirty
years after I came in Canada, and by pure coincidence,
I picked up a book in the bookstore and the
book style was driven to distraction. And the morning I
read it and looked at it in the bookstore, I said,
(30:23):
oh my god, that's me Adhd.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And what's happened in ninety five? Then pretty much it was.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You know, so I came in nineteen sixty five, thirty
two years later, in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh, thirty two years, I said, thirty Okay, now I
got it within that range.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And and I still have the book, and don't I
have it on my in my studio where I do podcasting.
Here I'm in the boardroom of one of my companies.
But you know, so I have the book still driven
to distraction. I opened the book and I wrote inside
the book and that now I finally know who I am.
(31:03):
And it was January nineteen ninety seven, after I'd been
here for thirty two years. And so the more I
found out about it, read the book and it's written
by doctor hilliwell, and he's an amazing individual, wrote eighteen books.
He has dyslexia and he's ADHD.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh my gosh, what a combination.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And so am I and so and now the more
I had read about it and Google, I call it
a superpower. And a lot of people say a lot
of people say to me, how do you do all
those things? You have ten companies, you're a speaker, you
do podcasting, you write books.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
How do you do all this stuff? I say, ADHD,
That's how I do it?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Or wait a minute, I think I have another one.
You talk about dyslection in ADHD. How about dadhd D? Yeah,
no way, DHD dad HD. I think that's appropriate one
exactly exactly, Oh my gosh. And of course you've had
some success. You also wrote a book about billion doarc
(32:11):
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Tuned into The Mike Wagner Show.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You heard me?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We're back to author John Brink of Billion Dollar communication
skills here on the Mike Wagner's show, and he's got
the book out right now. Before that, you talked about
living young, Dying old. Your showed ADHD Unlocked and how
about maybe a couple of other's like finding your passion,
living the Dream? Tell us more about that.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes, now, that was another one, and here's the book
that I wrote about that is that I've watched something.
I talked to a lot of younger people and universities
and presentations, and then a lot of times I ask
some of them, what do you plan to do after
university and a lot of them say I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I said, like most people got to heart aust A Loans.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's important that you kind of know.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
And so then I watched another TV is I don't
know about CNN or ABC about we watched a lot
of US television anyway, They said that in the United States,
seventy five percent of the people that work don't like
their jobs. In seventy percent of the seventy five percent,
(35:38):
I'm looking for another job. I believe it's the same
in Canada as the United States.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And so the pretty much parallel, right, seventy seventy five
percent they hate their jobs. They wish I had know
the job, So they're kind of parallel.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Correct. Oh wow, Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So what I'm suggesting to the people, and the young
people in particularly I talked to, so it is important
to kind of explore but opportunity. What do you really
like to do? And it's about finding your passion. What
do you like to do? Because if you spend most
(36:13):
of your life for all of us twenty thirty forty
years in a job that you don't like, that's not
very good, and you take it home with you, it
affects you and your personality.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And the family and the kids, then they're.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Giving that everything.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
So I say, if you want to be a truck diver,
talk to a truck diver. Shoot you a house, short haul,
long haulse shoot you own a truck, not own the truck.
Blah blah blah, on and on. Or you want to
be a contractor you want to build houses, talk to
a contract and they all love to talk to people
that are exploring.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
What you do.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And or you want to be a lawyer, or you
want to be a dog, or you want to be
a consultant of some description or another, all of that
is available. But you explore it all for that matter,
you want to be an entrepreneur. I always if somebody
comes to me and say, John, would you have can
(37:11):
I have a coffee with you to explore some of
the things that I am thinking about doing, And I
would say, sure, you know, and I always encourage that,
and I believe that's very, very important because the statistics
of having seventy five presented of the people not liking
their job and having to look for another job is
(37:34):
not a good one.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
And also not liking our boss, not like in our
co workers, not like in the environment, especially got toxic
environments which have been on the rises of late. Exactly right,
And of course you've been through everything like that. And
before we talk a book against all odds, I forgot
to ask you this question, though, Was it one? Was
it one precise moment that got you starting to writing books?
(37:56):
And how'd you first get starting books? I forgot to
ask you that earlier.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah, no worries about that.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know a lot of times already, you know, people
said to me, hey, John, you have such an interesting life,
you should write a book about it. So for about
twenty years, writing books is not easy. And I started
writing and it stopped, started against stopped, stopped, and so
on and so forth.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
And then when I.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Was in my mid seventies, I knew if I didn't
do it now, it would never happen. So I started
against all odds. Is this one. It's not about how
successful John is. In fact, to the contrary, it's about
all the ups and downs. So this book took me
eighty years to live it, twenty years to think about it,
(38:45):
two years to write it, and so and then from there,
and once I did that, I added to that ADHD
and then the next one, living young, dying old, you know,
and finding your passion and now obviously billion dollar communication skills.
(39:06):
And the reason that I do the billion dollar communication skills.
All the books are connected in a way, and there
is nothing more important, and that is nothing more or
least taught in a structural setting about becoming an effective
(39:27):
communicator and so and the reason that I wrote this
because not about how to become a billionaire. You could
maybe accomplish that in the meantime, but that's not what
the book is about. It's about communication skills. And all
those billionaires became, through circumstances very effective communicators and that's
(39:52):
the point, and for me that was important, especially growing
up in northeastern Holland. Be started with speaking dialect. If
I speak dialect, nobody in the rest of Hollands can
understand me. And it was not until I'm wanted into
the Air Force that I had learned to speak High
(40:13):
Dutch and so and I was there actually in my
early twenties twenty one, you know about. And then the
next thing two years later, after I got that under control,
I go to Canada and could speak the language. I
had to get that part under control, and then I
(40:33):
wanted to go further than that, and it took time,
and now I believe I'm a pretty good communicator.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I was gonna ask you something to talk about dialect.
When you learned they went up to the Air Force,
you learned High Dutch. What's the difference between the dialect
and High.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Dutch Dialect is more regional in all the words not
the same, the tone is not the same. And because
it's in the northeastern part of Holland, there is a
tendency in that region that are farmers and a lot
(41:13):
of people and the rest of Holland. If you speak
High Dutch and you have dialect or have an accent
that is dialect. Is there always a farmer and and
so you know, so that is the difference. So if
you want to become successful in business in Holland outside
(41:38):
of the region or even in the region, you must
be able to articulate your thoughts and.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
To high Dutch.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So that's the only two that you have, right or
is there another one?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So well, I speak Dutch dialect, I can speak some
German and then English.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Obviously, Okay, I was just going to get to that
because here in the United States you have other accent
It's got your Midwest accent, you got your New York
and Boston accent, you got your Southern accent, you got
your Texas West Coast accent, and I think you got
your the Northern Plains as well too. And yeah, you
got some various dialects. So and I think I was
(42:19):
a German English And what what other languages that do
you speak or what a language would you like to learn?
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, that's a that's a good question, Mike.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I always wanted to learn to speak Spanish nice and
I like Spanish that you know, the structure of Spanish
is very interesting and obviously it's a good one to
learn because Spanish is spoken and numerous numerous areas obviously
(42:52):
around the world, and uh, you know, at some point
I may do that, you know so.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And I think that's really great. And getting back to
building out communication skills with John breaking the mic when
your show and you talked about the excellent effective communication
skills most billionaires have, most successful people. What are the
more common traits that these effective communicators have, special.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Billingers, are you asking me, yes.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
What are the more effective ones? What do they have
in common? I was just asking common traits.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
That's a very good question. So for me, I was
didn't used to be a good communicator for all the
reasons that I gave you, and it affected my business
in a way. Even when I started and already was
successful in business, I was not very good to do
and that action was a number of people I could
(43:48):
do was two or three and part of my company
until an existent law set to me.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
And probably mid.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Eighties, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty five, seven eighty nine. At
nineteen ninety she took me to an organization called toast Masters.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's an excellent organization. Highly recommend everybody that's very high recommended.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
So I want there and I said what do they do?
He said, well, they developed communication skills. And I said,
are you going to ask me any questions? Said no,
you just sit.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
There and watch.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I said, okay. So I sat that and watched, and
then in the middle of the meeting somebody said, hey, John,
tell us all about yourself. And said, oh my god,
I'll never go back here, but I did. I stayed
there for ten years. So I became a Distinguished toast Master,
which is the highest level less than one percent worldwide
(44:47):
of toast masters or DTMs.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
So just thingish those.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Matters, and that does not mean a lot of other people.
They stay in toast Masters and child the acquired, but
ever school's the skills you're looking for the acquire but
usually don't stay to get all the way to DTM.
That changed my ability to clearly thinking, to become a
(45:14):
very good listener first and foremost, and then to be
able to articulate my thoughts. And part of that is
the training and toast Masters, and I speak about that
as well in this book. Is that you know, so
the most important skills that I learned at toast Masters
(45:37):
is to become a good listener. The other one is
thinking on your feet. That's important, and that's important, and
then and then develop presentations and then for me developed
self confidence. And so public speaking is a lot of
(45:59):
people say, a lot of people would sooner die. Then
have to be become a speaker in front of a
group of people. I know the feeling, and I become
a very very good presenter. And then natural from nature
and obviously I'm doing well in podcasting is that I'm
(46:24):
a storyteller and that's what I do in my books.
I'm a storyteller. And then obviously I'm a good listener.
And if we look at this book from the billionaires
that became successful and others, is what made them successful?
(46:45):
Communication skills they acquirted in different ways. And that's why
I wrote the book as to find what made them successful,
because without that it is highly unlikely that they have
become billionaires.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I think that's really important out there, and I think
that's really great. And plus you talked about podcasting. You
got your show called on the Brink. Tell us more
about that.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, so you know the probably five six years ago, Mike,
I already liked the idea of blogging and six seven
years ago probably, and and so I did part of
that on a local level. And then the next thing
is that I started to interact with a local television station,
(47:39):
bring in people from the region that were interesting, and
then kind of looked at We did so many of it,
and I liked it, and it was successful regionally in
local television. I thought, maybe what I have to do
is set up another television or podcasting station and Vancouver
(48:00):
I had an apartment there. And then the moment we
thought about it, then the next thing COVID happened, and
all of a sudden, we couldn't do that anymore in
the television station, and that I had a studio in
an apartment, said let's start it an into studio and
we did that. And then the next thing is let's
join pot Match. And pot Match is very well known.
(48:25):
Check it out on Google is where they matching individuals
from around the world that have similarities. And then it
gave us a whole new world to interact with. And so,
as I said, for illustration only, not to city it
(48:47):
and brag about it. But I've done probably approaching four
hundred and fifty podcast where I am the host, and
probably another two hundred and two in fifty that I'm
a guest, and then obviously on YouTube be approaching a
million subscribers on the podcast, so immensely powerful. It's only
(49:12):
on its infancy Mike, in my opinion, and it's going
to go much much further.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
And you continue to you're being a passionate advcot for
raising wearers of ADHD. So you know once again to
talk about that and just keep the fire burning for
that follows ADHD.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
And so what I do is that, you know, my
podcast thing may may not include from time to time
issues around ADHD. The other thing that's so amazing about it, Mike,
is I believe I did podcast last week that did
three podcasts of ladies in particular in that case by
(49:51):
coincidence is that that Variet the doctors are PhD or
whatever they were on different topics, all three of them
never really told anybody ADHD.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Wow, Okay, can you believe it? So?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
And then doctor halliwell that wrote the book you know
so and my podcast on the brink for those that
want to see him driven to distraction is I did
a podcast with him on my Underbring podcast two hundred
(50:33):
and three, and I think I'm now at.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Four twenty seven, twenty eight or whatever we are. But
two of three is.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
A podcast with dtor helliwell that he wrote the book
that I picked up in nineteen ninety three. I picked
up the book in the store here in January of
nineteen ninety seven, and I podcasted him in twenty twenty four.
I believe my podcast is two hundred and three. And
(51:03):
then I picked up his book I read about it
changed my life, no question.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
That is certainly amazing as well too. And of course
if you find out more, where can we check your podcast?
And how do we get ahold of your books? And
what's your website?
Speaker 5 (51:23):
John?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
The best way to get a hold of my books
and all of the other things. They are available on
all the platforms that you mentioned earlier, and the best
way to find out what I'd be.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Doing is John J.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
O h n asn Adam or Errands Brink b r
I n K dot com.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
That's Johnabrink dot com. Correct, All right, Well, certainly check
that out. Have eyb go to that we're here amazing
author of billion dollar communication skills and more, John Brinkcare
and the Mike. When your show, John says a few
more things. What else can we expect twenty twenty five
and beyond.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
So, you know, all my silos, I'm still intending to
grow my companies and uh, you know, so on all
the platforms.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
A ring, So sorry about it.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I just been oh that okay, I thought there was
a kiddy over there, squirrel or something. So it's like
I've had that happen too. It's like, is it right
or right?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (52:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So the funny part here is that I have an earpiece,
you know, I didn't hear and and so then the
phone rings. Scott is sitting here, he didn't hear the
phone ring, but I hear it in my ear anyway.
So what am I going to do is all the silos,
the lumber, the bare housing, the real estate and and
(52:48):
the media. I want to start a platform. And so
in the next two to three months, I'm going to
write another. But I'm working on two other books.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
And then in the meantime, I want to stay fit.
I want to get ready.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
I go train, you know, stay physically fit.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Uh, you know, stay enjoying my diet. The amazing think, Mike,
is that I love going to the gym nice and
so for some people it's difficult. I say, stay the course,
and then if you do, then after a while, but
(53:30):
will happen, and you don't have to all become Olympians
or bodybuilders, but stay fit and the amazing things that
will happen. Somebody will say, hey Mike or hey John,
you look good, but do you do blah blah blah,
and you start feeling better. The same is diet. You know,
drink a glass of water ten ounce water in the mornings,
(53:52):
get seven to nine hours sleep, use vitamin D, sunshine
and then you know, go to the gym, get exercise,
both heavyweights and cardio, and then diet is extremely important.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
And that's so important as well too. And I got
to say that, you know, you've been eighty five means
sixty one. You're very pretty cool. Dad, I got to
say that, so oh, it's certainly amazing. And who do
you consider biggest influence in career?
Speaker 2 (54:26):
In my career, probably my dad was as an example
for me and you know us being very very hard
working and considering the challenges that he had along the
way as being an inspiration to me.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Okay, And what's the best advice you can give to
any byte? This point, say again, what's the best advice
you can give to any byte This.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Point attitude, passion, work, ethic, but will follow is success.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
That is certainly paramount is what too. Here're the amazing
author John Brink and entrepreneur of billion dollar communication skills
here in the Mike water Show. John, a very big
thank you time, You've been apps amazing, learned a lot
looking forward, hamn soon keeps up they keep in touch,
Lave I be back, We wish ourf s and before
we go, what's your website? How do people contact you?
Bring people purchase or check out your books?
Speaker 5 (55:19):
John abri dot.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Com, Johnabrink dot com, we will certainly check that out
once again, John, A very big thanks you time, you've
been totally amazing looking forehand soon keeps up to date,
keep in touch, Lav i've you back. We wish our
best and John, you def have a great feature.
Speaker 5 (55:35):
At What's a Pleasure Mike Chica.
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through the songs he wrote his time as a shepherd
in the field is will. The book starts and it
goes on to describe a complicated and turbulent relationship with
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