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Amazing Gentlemen's a singer songwriter based in Sila, California, group
in Hudson Valley, New York. His father is a professional
musician at West Point Military Academy and learned from his parent.
Attended s s U n Y. It's a State University

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of New York and Oswego, moved to a West coast
worked in specially lighting while raising a family. He attended
Steve URL's Camp Copperhead to continue his career. Also put
together Muscle Shoals Record Show Record Shop, which with five
other songwriters as well perform South Southern California like Whiskey
of Go Go, The Mint Viper Room, The Coach House,

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and more. And he's got a new release called Which
is York. More on that Live Ladies and Jill and
plus Studio somewhere in Selling, California, The Amazing Mouth of
the Town. Singer songwriter based in Sela, California, grew up
in Hudson Valley, New York, and the title is called
York with a Multi Talent. Tom Serzi, Tom, good morning
to the afternoon, good evening. Thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hi Mike, it's quite an introduction. Thank you. Glad to
be here.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
What's great to have you on board. I mean you
got a listener accomplishments. You're a singer songwriter based in Sala, California.
Grew up in Hudson Valley, New York. Your father is
a professional musician at west Point Military Academy. You learn
from your parents. Later attended State University of New York
and Oswego. You moved to West Coast, worked especially lighting
while raising a family. You attended Steve Earls Camp Copperhead

(02:46):
to continue your career and also put together Muscle Shoals,
a record shop with five other songwriters, and you performed
throughout Selling California. And you also did a number of
albums called Me Ishmael, I Ain't Ever Growing Up and
also Christmas Time in Hollywood and plus Top of The
Rainbow Volumes one and two. We'll be talking about relays
release York could be playing one or couple at the

(03:08):
end of the audio interview before getting all that time,
tell us a.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
First cuts tarn when then I first get started?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Correct? Y'all go way back, Sherman, way back.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay. You know, I like to call it the Big
Bang theory, which was September ninth, nineteen sixty four, and
me and a million other kids had the exact same experience.
We turned on the television on The Ed Sullivan Show
and we saw the Beatles, and that was a big one.

(03:38):
Everybody has the Big Bang, right. Everybody that saw that
show decided that's what I'm gonna do. And so a
million kids picked up guitars and I was one of them.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh my gosh, and I think some of us had
to be a million and one. And besides, you know
what the Ed Sullivan Show was that other exact, precise
moment that flues doing the rest of your career.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
What was the other thing that got my career?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah? What was the other light bulb moment that simply
influenced you in career?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's funny, uh? In music? Well, you know what happened
was everybody started forming garage bands in high school and so,
and we we just had an area that was populated
with a lot of like young musicians that were all
pretty good. And so I, you know, like everybody else

(04:32):
got into a garage band, and we played all over
the cyos and high schools and teen clubs and those
type of places. But early on I realized that was
too many great guitar players and it was many great
sing This is at fourteen years old. I'm coming to
this conclusion that there's players and too many great singers.

(04:56):
And I'm like, boy, I'm never I'm never really going
to be as good as these guys are. So I
decided I would concentrate on writing music. And I've been
writing songs since I've been like a teenager. But when
I say that is really like in upstate New York
where I was, you know, we got all the New
York City stations, So we had the WABC with cousin Brucey,

(05:18):
which then evolved to the FM stations which was WAW
and so a lot of good information coming out of
New York. And they used to do this battle of
the Band's thing in WABC and one of the local
bands from and they do every maybe one hundred bands
would enter tapes and whatever. The local band from my

(05:41):
hometown wound up getting into the final ten. It went
down to the Waldorf Astoria and they took first place. Wow, okay,
and so I and this is when I'm fourteen, and
I'm like, I'm just they're just too good and I'm
never gonna beat it. So really that's why I started
writing music. And you know, it's I tell everybody that

(06:01):
wants to be a songwriter, It's something you got to
work on every day. It's not something that all of
a sudden you say, yeah, I'm going to write a
song and you sit down and write it. Can't do
it because I always felt that eighty ninety percent of
what you write is going to be total garbage and
it's going to take you a while before you can
figure out exactly what you're doing and how to do it.

(06:23):
And it took me a long long time, but I
actually have saved everything I've ever written from when I
was a teenager. I've gotten notebooks all the way through
with song music and lyrics that I've written throughout my
whole life. And as I told you. I had to

(06:43):
put some of it aside because you know, my father,
being a professional musician, would say to me, he goes, look,
doesn't matter how good of a musician you are, he says,
ninety five percent of the musicians, even the best ones,
have a real difficult full time making a living. So
go to college, get a degree, get a real job.

(07:05):
Don't make music your full time job. Do it as
a fun project, because it's really really difficult to be,
you know, full time at it. And I think he
was right, at least in my case. God bless all
the guys that have been able to really do it
full time. They're exceptional, they're special, and they you know,

(07:27):
it requires not only being very good, but you got
to have a lot of luck, and you've got to
be in the right place at the right time. Sure,
So you know, I really admire all of these people
that have really you know, put their nose to the
grindstone and have you know, we merged over the years
and really made something of themselves. But you know, you

(07:50):
asked me what the other big moment was, and I
told you earlier when we were talking that I was
a big prog musician and so so in college at
sunni As Squigo, we had this guy come to our school,
came in from London. He just released an album. His
name was Bruce Springsteen. They had to drag me kicking

(08:11):
and screaming. I didn't want to go see him. I'm like, yeah,
he's not my type of music, right, But I went
to the show and my jaw was on the floor
the whole time. I'd never seen anything like this is
I don't know, seventy six that time frames, uh huh,
And I was so amazed. It changed my whole thought

(08:33):
on writing and performing music. And you'll know a lot
of people say that my music sounds very Springsteen. Ask
I tell everybody he's been copying me for years. But
really the truth is is that one show that I

(08:53):
saw at suny A Squigo and our small little gym
up there really changed how I thought about writing music,
how I thought about performing. And I was very, very
influenced and impressed by what And we had all kinds
of great performers at that time. For whatever reason, the
best bands were going through the Sunny colleges and all

(09:17):
the smaller colleges and they made a stop at all
these places. So you know, Hall and Oates opened up
for Lou Reed and they were like a nobody band,
and I watched them from the crowd. I like, those
guys are gonna be huge. Peter Frampton comes in and he's.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Remember yes, yes, Peter.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Releases Frampton comes alive, and I'm like, this guy's gonna
be huge. And all of these guys, right when they're
just starting to tick off and become, like a year
before they become big, all came through these college towns.
But anyways, the one that really impressed me was Springsteen.
I just there was something about his showmanship that was different,

(10:03):
and there was something about his rock songs that had
I think there was a touch of prog element to
it because of the way he structured a lot of
his early songs. He would do these very very long
songs with a lot of dynamic changes, and he would
change keys and things like that. And I really was
very very impressed with all of that and I absorbed

(10:26):
it all and it's still leaking out of me.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And made me think of the two songs that stood
out from Born to Run. It was a jungle Land
and Backstreets. Those two really rang right there.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You look at jungle Land from Springsteen. It really is.
Although it's a rock song, it has all the Prague
type of elements in song structure, the dynamic changes, the
rhythm changes, and it has a lot of mood changes
throughout it. So I love that song.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Don't play it enough, I know what you mean. But
maybe think of Billy Joel's seen from an Italian restaurant.
That's Prague right there. It's like he probably want to
admit it, but that's a progue I think of it.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
And that's another guy I was influenced by to a
certain New Yorkers in New Jersey, right, That's where I'm from,
is New York. So in seventy five, nineteen seventy five,
Billy Joel moved into my little town there outside of
West Points, a town called Highland Falls. So he came

(11:32):
in for the summer and he rented a house and
he wrote all the songs for Turnstile album while he
was there. And so at night you would see him.
He was a young guy. He'd be out at the
local taverns and the local bars, hanging around with everybody,
and that was pretty cool because we all knew who

(11:52):
he was, but he really hadn't exploded on the scene.
Yet you know, his big song I think was Piano
Man or something like that, so he hadn't really taken
off I think Turnstiles and then after that fifty Second
Street really boom blew him up. But anyways, on his
Turnstyle album, he did a song called Summer Highland Falls,

(12:14):
right kind of. He said nothing about highland falls or summer.
It was kind of a song about a relationship that
he was having that was going with bad and when
he would get interviewed he would say stuff like, well,
you know, Bob Dylan all always did rainy day women,
you know, and blah blah blah, and he never mentioned it,
so I didn't. So I thought about this, and you'll

(12:38):
notice on my very first album you'll see a song
called Winter Highland Falls. I thought to myself, well, if
if Billy's not gonna do then I'm gonna show it.
He had the opportunity for a lot of years to
come back and reprise that song, and do you know

(12:58):
the other season, he didn't do it, but I'm gonna
do it. And I you know, I did a song
about the decay of small town America. But I thought
it was a nice, interesting metaphor, and a lot of
people didn't pick up on it, but when I tell
the story they start to get it.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It sounds like you and Billy Joel seemed to parallel
a lot. And when you think about small decaying towns,
Allentown was another one by Billy Joel, Allentown was really
going downhill.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh and by the way, my wife went to Lehigh,
so I know that area as well. I like that
and that whole well, you know, the big factories like
there was they had, you know, semiconductor factories there, they
had chip factories for printed circuits. All of them left
and you know once they left, right downhill.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Mm hmmm. And cars, my little town with our garfunkalism
decay as well too. And in cars were mentioned about
all the people you know from New York and everything
who are some of the other bands are artists that
went through the college scene, especially over at Sun and
os WeGo that had come and end up being successfully mentioned.
Peter Frampton, you also mentioned enough time drawing a blank

(14:10):
of son Frankstein Frampton.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
We we we had and it was very eclected. We
had Poco that came in that year all ago. That's
a good one I love them. Haul and Oates came
in with Lou Reed. Then we would have people like
weather Report, we would have Who's some of the you
know who. We had that was really cool, and we

(14:38):
had the National Lampoon Touring Show come through. And during
during the time that they came through, John Belushi and
Ackroyd and Chevy Chase had just left and they went
to Saturday Night Live, right, so they replaced him and
the guy they replaced. I still remember sitting in the

(15:00):
crowd looking at, you know, all of the media guide
and they're like, me and my roommate are talking about, like,
get a load of this guy's name, meat Loaf, meat Loaf,
and so meat Loaf was the replacement for Belushi, and
Jim Steinem was the musical director for this National Lampoon

(15:22):
Touring show. I score after seeing that show, I'm like,
this guy's going to be the next great comedian. He's hysterical.
But I never heard anything from him afterwards. And a
couple of years later, I'm, you know, living in New Paul's,
New York, and I have the radio on and the

(15:44):
DJ comes on. He says, we've got a brand new
album from an artist called meat Loaf, and they put
on Bad out of Hell. I sit right up and
I'm like, I can't believe this.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's appropriate. Bad out of Hell be a paghetty for
meat Love.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
So, you know, I was I we had all of
these type of people at that time come through that
just emerged on the scene, and that kept happening no
matter where I went. You know why, I took a
job in they moved me to San Francisco. In nineteen eighty.

(16:23):
I moved to San Francisco, and so while I'm there,
all of these bands came out of nowhere, like Huey
Lewis and the News formed in the Bay Area at
that time. The Tubes just formed in the Bay Area
at that time. And it's just a little slew of these.

(16:47):
I thought, you know, after the Dead and everything, a
lot of that had, you know, faded away. No, no, no,
San Francisco was still a breeding ground for all kinds
of great music. I hated to leave San Francisco. Moved
a litt Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I loved it up there, and plus Journey came out
of that area as well too, And I think there
might have been some other bear areas. That's like I'm
trying to think, oh, yeah, well something like that.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, those guys were like a spin off from Santana.
I think a lot of them came out of there,
and Santana course was from San Jose Doobie Brothers who
were from San Jose, so they were all from up
in that Bay area.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And there's a lot of them as well too. And
you took up a job in specialty lighting as well.
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time singer songwriter that's currently in selling California. Tom Zerzac
current the Mike Wadner's show. You talk about hanging out
to San Francisco, So what was that big point that
got you go in San Francisco?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So everything is is sometimes, you know, pure cosmic accident.
I was selling computers when I got out of college
for a company called Burrows, which no longer exists. And
my that was my first job, and I had my
territory was the mid Hudson Valley and I was supposed

(20:23):
to sell the manufacturing companies. The only problem is there's
one big manufacturing company in the mid Hudson Valley and
its initials are IBM, And there was no way they're
the two big competitors. They compete against each other that
I was ever going to sell. You know, anybody Burrows
computers when you've got IBM sitting there. I mean everybody's brother, sister, uncle,

(20:47):
aunt worked for that company. So I decided, after a year,
I better get something else going. And I walked into
this small import company and they held up a little
haligenvolved and it said, do you think you can sell this?
And you know I had learned enough from working with
the computers to know what the right answer, which was
absolutely I can sell at and immediately I started selling

(21:12):
these specially bulbs. And when I say specially if it's
pretty much if you subtract what you would know is
general lighting like household lamps, fluorescent lamps and street lights
and things of that nature. And it's everything else that
has lighting light bulbs in it that you would never
think they had light bulbs. But like when you go

(21:32):
to the movies that was like a Xenon arc lamp
with you know Xenon games.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Oh okay, like with the frenel lighting and also the
lights like on three gun projectors back in the day.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, So if you have a copier, the bulbs that
were in a copier, I sold all of those bulbs
for microscopes, bulbs for blood analyzing equipment. You go into
a movie studio, they you know, the tricky part a
lot of people don't know is they used to use
they still do. They would film at night in the city,

(22:08):
right and it would make it look like it's daylight,
so they could clear all the streets out and they
would use these eighteen thousand they used carbon carbon arcs.
But then they used eighteen thousand why metal allied lamps,
huge power things, right, but it would look like you're
in the middle of the day. It's really three four
in the morning, and so why would sell those type
of lamps too? So anyways, the German company that we

(22:32):
were representing bought the distributor, and that company was called Ozram,
and they were like the third largest lighting company in
the world, and they decided they needed a West coast office.
So that the head of the my company said, Tom,
getting your volkswagon, You're going to San Francisco. I was like, guys,

(22:54):
up out of here. So of course I had. I
was hospital for the West coast, and the west coast
was Chicago. Draw lines Chicago through Texas and everything west.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Chicago as west, I think it is eastern Central.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
What were they think? Basically they had east and west.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
That was Oh my goodness, that's what happened to a
freaking Mississippi river.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Huh yeah, So that's what I had. But I was
to me, I was young, and it was this was
fun and uh, you know, I got to live in
San Francisco for about four or five years. But then
Ozram wanted to get more into general lighting because in
Europe they're a big general lighting company. They compete. They
competed with a company called Phillips, so they bought I

(23:42):
don't know if you remember Sylvania, but there used to
be a Sylvania lighting company. They bought Sylvanias because they
wanted that distribution business, and so they wanted me to
come back to the East Coast. I didn't want to
go back to the East Coast, so I said, I
got a find something else. And my experience where I

(24:02):
have any value is in the specially lighting industry. It
just so happened that the Japanese were starting to come
into the country at that time. This is when the
Japanese were buying all kinds of property and stuff like that,
and a Japanese lighting company named Ushio was looking for
a sales manager for the United States. So it was

(24:23):
a step up for me. I ran there. Their whole
company for the US and I went in there in
nineteen eighty four, moved to la and it was two
people being an assistant and we were doing about two
million dollars. Wow, But it's timing, well, it gets better.
It's all timing and luck because at that particular moment
in time, the semiconductor market was going through this renaissance

(24:48):
and it was really starting to take off. And the
two biggest machine makers were Cannon and Nikon, which were
both Japanese. So all of the products were uh oem
or designed in were from Ussio, and we had a
huge semiconductor base here in the States. I built the

(25:11):
business over the course of twenty plus years from two
million and two people to one hundred and twenty million
and two hundred people, Oh my goodness and so. And
because I was like the first guy in I was
in charge. I ran the company. I'd go back and
forth to Japan, and we had a little company h

(25:31):
in Germany that I had actually had known from my
previous job. So I would go be going to Japan
and into Germany. And so I became a very much
a world traveler at you know, twenty eight, twenty nine,
thirty am my goodness, so, which was a lot of fun.

(25:51):
But then I'm not always making the smartest moves. I decided,
all right, I've had enough of this, and two thousand
and seven I bought a company in Japan. They had
a Japanese headquarters and a US office, so I basically
would go over to Japan once a month for almost

(26:14):
eight nine years for a week and a half to
run the Japanese office, and then you know, come back
to the US to develop the US business. And after
a while, this is, this is just too much travel,
and so I sold the Japanese side, and then eventually

(26:34):
I've sold the US side. But during that whole thing,
while I was with my own company, I had read
something about Steve Earle having a songwriters camp.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I was a big, big fan of Steve Earle, and
my brother was like, he gave me the elbow in
the side and he said, look, you should go to this.
You've always been a songwriter, you like doing that. Go.
So I went, and I like to tell everybody I
found my lost tribe because there was one hundred songwriters
from all over the world there, and it was and

(27:12):
nobody knew what they were doing. We had no idea
what he was doing. He would, you know, if you've
ever heard his Outlaw country radio show where he tells
these stories, I've heard all the stories before. He just
sat there and told stories of you know, his whole life.
But I met all kinds of great musicians there and

(27:37):
the day would end at you know, eleven o'clock. We
would do an open money from eight to eleven every night,
and then at eleven o'clock we'd all, you know, go
out to a campfire and we were all, you know,
picking parties, I guess, playing songs. And I realized that
I was really of the same caliber songwriter and player

(27:58):
as everybody there, and a lot of these guys were
really very, very you know, hardcore professionals. I mean from Australia,
from Norway, from Ireland, from you know, everywhere. Unfortunately, when
we left, everybody's handing me a copy of their CD.

(28:19):
I did have a CD. So I went home thinking
to myself, I got to keep up with the Joneses.
How am I going to do this? And so I
went home and sitting down at dinner with my daughter
and son and wife, I said, you know, I want
to record an album. I don't know where to begin.

(28:39):
And my daughter was with a professional a cappella group
in LA and she goes, you know, we have an
engineer that recorded us, and I'm pretty good friends with him.
Let's let me introduce you to him. So I went
and met engineer's name was Brett Grossman, and Brett and

(28:59):
I hit it all pretty good, and he goes, let
me bring in another guy and we'll work together. He'll
be the producer. Right now, he brings in the drummer
Steve Stephen Hacker, and those two have produced and engineered
everything I've done except for the one off Muscle showals.

(29:20):
But everything I've done, you know, Ishmael, I never growing
up by him one and two and the current album
as well as the EP to Christmas EP. And we've
just gotten better every time we've done it. We've learned
more from the previous time, and it steps up, steps up,
steps up, And I can't say enough about, you know,

(29:44):
the work that we've all done together to get the
songs to the level we've gotten them. It's really been
the thrill of a lifetime for me to do all this,
because I never thought that I would, you know, get
these little songs that I've been writing all my life
and really turn it, which was always my dream, to
turn them into you know, full scale recordings, to take

(30:07):
them from recording level to performing amount of I put
together a you know, six seven piece band sometimes and
would take them out of perform live with it. So
it's really been a fascinating last couple of years. Uh,
switching horses. I think you know, from from the specially
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(30:28):
to get it out of my system, to putting out albums,
having them get airplay throughout Europe and the United States,
putting together a band playing all of all over you know,
southern California. It's pitched myself.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
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Speaker 1 (32:59):
Tuned into the Mike Wagner Show.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
You heard me.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
We're back with the amazing multi talented singer songwriter from
Southern California, Tom Serazac here and the mic and in
your show, and before we talk about elast York, will
be playing one of your songs at the end of
the audio interview you mentioned call Me Ishmael's there first
and tell us about some of the songs one called
call Me Ishmael and and your lyrics too and what

(33:28):
were they about?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
One inspired writer, They're all you know the title song, Ishmail.
I remember sitting down with everybody and we had, you know,
a first meeting. I'm going to lunch, and I said,
I've got this one song and I want to do it.
And it's a it's a metaphor, if you will for
Moby Dick, call me Ishmael, which was the opening line

(33:52):
for Moby Dick, right, And I said so, But the
main character this is about. This song is about exotic
animal smuggling, okay, And the main character that tells the story, Ishmael,
if you will, is a parrot. It's not a person.

(34:15):
And so you've got a parrot telling the story. It
you become aware of it at the end of the
story because I give enough clues to it. And he's captured,
he's in cage, and he's sitting there saying, you know,
I'm not worried because Jesus is watching me. But as
in some of the silly jokes everybody's heard over the years,

(34:37):
Jesus was really a jungle cat. And the jungle cat
at night came in and tore up the cortel and
freed all of the the exotic animals that were captured,
and I did that song in very Steve Earle esque style,
with you know, drop D tuning and a very swampy

(35:01):
type of lick. I was really really happy. But the
thing about it is I I merged it together with
like a prog type of bridge, but a bridge would
slide guitar and oh yeah, and I did that, and
so I would tell everybody it's like I created this

(35:22):
new genre. I created something called, you know, outlaw progue.
I like that outlaw prog. I love it as I'm
just just joking around, but it really came out as
a very cool song. And I did a number of
other songs on the album where others. One that's called
Sonny came back. And again this is a poke at

(35:46):
so Steve Earl what had Sean Colevin. He's very good
friends with Sean Colvin. She won a Grammy for Sonny
came home right. Steve would always say she likes to
write murder ballads, and she's great at writing murder ballads,
and this whole big build up. So I sat back
and I was like, you know what, maybe we need

(36:07):
to write a song from the guy's point of view.
So she goes in and she burns this guy's house
down with him inside. I wonder what that guy was
thinking when she burned down his house with him inside.
He probably has a whole different take on the story.
So definitely, So I wrote Sonny came Back basically as

(36:29):
the guy's take on that story. And you know, he
sees her walking to a bar he's at and he's like,
where's the back door? I got to get out of
here type of thing. So it's a lot of tongue
in cheek humor, which I continue through a lot of
my songs. You'll you'll see my humor is there if
you look at the lyrics. That did the same thing

(36:50):
with the opening song, which is Guys Like Me, which
is a guy is a stalker who winds up stalking
the wrong girl and he's really a peppy the pew
type of character, and you know he he follows this
girl and she like, get away from me. I don't

(37:10):
have time for you. I got things to do, and
she actually is on her way to rob a bank,
so he follows her incycle oh and she's telling everybody
hit the floor, and you know, she turns around and
she's pointing the gun at him and he's like, listen,
we can still work that, we can make it work.

(37:31):
So it's that type of song. And a lot of
my songs throughout have an act one, an act two,
and then the act three has a twist. So I
try to do a little something that you can only
see coming on the third act. You'll one of the

(37:51):
really cool, if very it's a Springsteen ass song because
of the beautiful piano that that's Aaron Durr did on
the intro. Is a mind torn road, which actually exists.
It's by the bear Mount Bridge and north of the city,
and so the character, their nicknames are all real, the

(38:15):
places are all real, and the story's all made up,
but it's about I like to call it a triple cross.
And so when they plan to double cross somebody on
let's say it's a drug deal or something, and they're
gonna double cross this guy. But during the double cross,
everything goes haywire. But really he's getting scammed and his

(38:37):
girlfriend makes off with all the money. Everybody dies, and
he's just beside himself. So twenty years later, you know
he's living on the streets. He's in New York City
and he's down by JFK and he says, I think
I just saw my old girlfriend. So he follows her home,
knocks on a door, and he realizes she scammed them. Huh.

(39:02):
So all of these things, and I have probably a
dozen songs that all have different types of third act
twists in them, and you'll you'll see it from album
to album, and they mature a little bit from album
to album because I start to think, how can I
do this differently? What can I do that I haven't done?
And I don't want There's a couple of things when

(39:25):
you're writing songs releast I think about I think about
you're candy. So I usually you have to have two
types of hooks, and usually a musical hook to grab
somebody's ear and a lyrical hook that grab somebody somebody's ear.
Usually they don't study the lyrics that much, so that's

(39:45):
only for the deeper dive that they'll go in and
they'll see that there's a story there that has a twist.
But before they ever get there, you got to catch
them with a melody that or a chorus that they
really you know, catches their brain. You know that old
don't boris get to the chorus thing and you a
lot of times and the Beatles and George Harrison was

(40:06):
wonderful of this, catch him with a guitar hook, and
so you've got to do a little bit of both
in every song. And then if you're lucky, they drill
deeper and they start to see what's going on with
other parts of the song. I like that.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
And plus you talked about getting better and better well
of them. Ironically, I Ain't ever gonna grow up tell
us more about that.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So that's close to being a biographical song about taking
a job and moving out to the West Coast and
then taking a job with the Japanese. The part that's
made up is the functioning alcoholic part of the story.
But there's a couple of things I've always found lyrically
that people gravitate to. And and you you you've got

(40:55):
to have, you know, a troubled side in there. There's
gotta be there's certain twists in the story people gravitate.
So I had to put the alcohol side in there.
But that's not true. But and that's a great song
live because I'm able to get the crowd chanting I

(41:17):
ain't ever growing up, I ain't ever getting old, which
is you know, kind of an anthemic type of you
know chant that I'm able to get the crowd to do.
And it really it really comes from Peter Pan. You
know you look at me. Loaf and Springsteen who I
you know, I named them both earlier. Both of them
would use you know, Peter Pan references. When Springsteen did

(41:39):
Born to Run, He's talking about you know, Mary and
Never Never Land and stuff like that. And everything that
Steinem did was it was oriented and lost boys and
golden girls, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Was very
much in that Berry's book. So I I thought, hey,

(42:01):
it's good enough for those two and I'll do the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
And plus also being Top of the Rainbow as well too,
Volumes one and two and more about that.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
One, Well that's not actually that's how I'd never grown
up Volume one or two a Top of the Rainbow
is a song on the newest album. Oh got it?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Okay, I got crossed up? Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
No, that's okay. But what happened is I recorded sixteen
songs and I was talking with my marketing advisor and
she said, you know, that's gonna be too much for anybody.
To digest and why don't we split it into two albums?
And you know a lot of people generally don't have

(42:39):
enough good songs to make two albums. But it really
split very well, and I got great reviews in great
airplay by doing it that way, and was able to
get I think, a better shelf life where people are
listening to my music because I split it into two albums.
You know, the very first song on I ever growing

(43:02):
up Vyum one, it was a song called Ontario Knights,
and I told you that Springsteen came to my college
in seventy five, seventy six. The next day I went
and wrote that song. I took it, I dusted it off.
We were opening all the shows with that song until
this new album came out, and now we're opening with
a different song. But that became, you know, our go

(43:25):
to opener, and so that's why it has a Springsteen
vibe to it. And there's a lot of songs that
I had written over a ten year period that I
just had collected that were there and they're just really
cool songs live. The Bonnie and Clyde song is one

(43:47):
of my better songs that you know, I've got a
lot of streams on. It's a great song live and
it's again another twist where you know, girl is has
this guy robbing at ms and they're you know there,
she's getting into the life of crime, et cetera. She's

(44:09):
really undercover for the FBI. And in the end, in
the end, he realizes she's with the FBI, and so
you know, it's one, but you don't hear that to
the third verse. So that's that's one. And there's another
song about upstate New York called The Vault. This is

(44:30):
about a group of friends in a college town and
we would all go this place to Vault, which is
kind of a nice misleading name because it's it's a bar,
it's not really a not a bank. But we would
all go there and what happens is we robbed it.
We're we're gonna be blood brothers to the end. We're
the best of friends. Blah blah blah. You know, after

(44:53):
after we we go out all night, we go to
this local diner and there's a you know, a one
armed man in this. Look. We don't have much money,
but there's a one armed man who's got a gun
in his back belt there and if you try to
skip on the bill. He's gonna shoot you so you
can't run out without paying the bill. And I tell this,

(45:13):
I hammer that home a couple of times. Right, we
rob the place, we bury the money, and then in
the bridge and the chorus, we dig up the money
and I shoot all my friends in the back. Oh
my gosh. So it's it's it's a twist where I
keep telling you, you know, we're gonna be friends to

(45:34):
the end. We're friends where, you know, and all of
this is all good. And I guess I watched too
many crime movies. But but you know, you're writing songs.
You're you're coming to a point where you're like, I
can't end this, you know, you know, where everything is
nice and we walk off into the sunset. That's no good.

(45:56):
I've got to end this with, you know, something that's
some more ironic. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we gotta get
an ironic ending. And so I'm constantly thinking and looking
how to do that. I think that leads me to
a lot of these you know, my friends, and people
will go, you know, you got a lot of stories

(46:17):
about drinking and robbing banks and you know, wild women,
and I'm like, it's all in my past. I don't
do that anymore. I've reformed.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
There you go, which leads up to your let us York.
He's in the title track The Watcher will be playing
those and others tell us more about York and one
in Spider write.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
So the Watcher is kind of an interesting No one's
figured out the title yet, but you know the story.
So I was reading about the Nasca lines and you
know how they're like, you know, you can only see
them from the sky, and they're like, you know, maybe
ancient aliens would use them as road signs. And I
was like, great, We're going to have an ancient alien

(47:02):
be the guy that's you know, carving and putting all
these you know, mile markers in place. I make him
the main guy in the story. And then the aliens
that are supposed to pick him up they leave them.
They don't get them. Oh my, so I have him.
You know, he goes in the morning. He dresses in black,
and but it's like he's the original origin of the

(47:24):
original man in black, and he goes to all of
these different sites. Alien sites are big sights throughout history.
It's Stone Hedge, you know, the Pyramids, you know, the
fall of the Roman Empire, the moon landing, and you know,
he's in the all photo bombs everything, hoping that the
aliens will see him photo bombing in the background and

(47:44):
come back and rescue him, which in the end they do.
But it's it's a it's a it's a very fun
song because I wrote it musically much differently than anything
else I had put together, and uh so it almost
sounds like something that would come out of a musical

(48:06):
in some regard. But I like that song a lot. Now,
the thing I was gonna say is, most people don't
understand the name the Watcher, you know, why don't you
just call it the man in black?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Hmm?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
And the Watcher is an ode to a character from
Marvel Comics and The Fantastic Four. They had these beings
that are outside the the Mega metaverse, the Watchers that
you know, there were aliens that would you know, keep
control over all the metaverses, and so I thought, that's

(48:37):
the type of alien I'm gonna make this guy. So
nobody has figured that one out.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yet, but I put that in there, and I think
that's really interesting as well too. With York from a
singer songwriter Thom serzak Her and Mike Winner show YELSA
got M, I M I A chameleon and a L
T O W E.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I like that one, and tell us more about those
TWD which you know I couldn't I couldn't print a title.
It stands for another long, typical ordinary working day and
it's again a lot of tongue in cheek humor. It's
it's about a guy. His job is he works for
the CIA, and which I don't tell you again to

(49:18):
the third act, but he's working for the CIA. He's
in Afghanistan, and basically what he's doing is he wants
His job is divert the heroin or poppy business from
the Russians over to the Americans. That's his job. It's
not no big deal. So that's what the whole song

(49:39):
is about. He goes down there, he's like, look, come
work for us, will get you better money, you won't
have a problem handling all this, will take everything you've got.
But the only condition is you got to give up
working with the Russians. And so that's that whole story.
And I wotched that on piano, which is why it's

(50:00):
sounds much differently because usually I use guitar to write songs.
I wrote that on piano. Am I, M I A.
I started playing around with a tongue twister. I just
was sitting around just being funny, and I came up
with am I, AM I A or am I in Miami,
and I thought, oh, that's funny. I'm never gonna be

(50:20):
able to get a you know, a backup singer to
sing that, especially to harmonize to it, but I did.
And so that was a song about and it's got
a kind of a nice America ventura harmony highway guitar
harmony too. So that's the ear candy. You hear that
really nice little guitar harmony. And but it's kind of

(50:41):
a folk rock type of guitar harmony, not a you know,
a hard rock one. And it's about a guy who's
bored with life and he decides he's gonna move to
Miami and become a mercenary. It just just I look
for crazy stories and I think they're fun. If anybody

(51:01):
does a deep dive and listens to the music, they
start to like, what is this guy talking about? But
you know, they a lot of times, with a lot
of songs, people don't get that far, they don't really
understand it, but I'm I do put the cookies in there.
So if you do a deep dive and you actually
read the lyrics, you'll you'll get a lot of laughter

(51:22):
out of it and a real appreciation for what's going.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
On in certainly did as well too. Plus you got
your next where do I Belong?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
In Wild one? More about those, so let's see. Wild
one is kind of a homage to Born to Be Wild,
And it's an homage if to a lot of my
friends that died young. They live life at full speed
and just never made it out of their twenties. And

(51:51):
there's some cool things I did in that song. That's
another one with very nice guitar harmony. And one of
the things I had learned from studying like spring Stein
was that whenever he went into a sax solo, he
would often change keys and that would boost the solo.
Like he did it. We talked about jungle Land earlier.
He does he does that in jungle Land, he changes

(52:13):
the key to boost the sax solo. So I changed
the key and then I do a guitar harmony. Twin
guitar harmony. That's really cool and it's more of a
Thin Lizzy type of twin guitar harmony than than an
Almond brother style. But it's really to me, it's it's
one of the standout little things that will catch you

(52:33):
here on the album as you go down through some
of these Your Next is really a rage against the
Machines meets Springsteen meets the Who. Uh and and that
really So The Who had an album called Who's Next?
Uh huh, And I sat there and I'm like, I
don't know why they didn't follow that up with a

(52:55):
your Next album.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
I was just gonna say that you mentioned it, Who's Next,
You're next, We're all next?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Correct? So they didn't do that. Remember I keep telling you,
like Billy Joel didn't take Winter Iron and Falls, I'm
taking it.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Or Billy Joel fifty second street? Why not fifty third.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Exactly? He missed a couple of streets. So I did that.
And it's it's really about you know, you know, don't
be rip van Winkle and fall asleep under the tree,
or the big, big bad wolf might come and eat you,
so be careful. Said, that's really what the song's about.
Where do I belong? When I recorded the Christmas Album

(53:36):
at Sunset Studio, which is the pre eminent studio in
La Right. The Doors recorded their three albums there, and
Exile on Main Street by Stones was recorded there, and
led Zeppelin record so everybody that's anybody record, I'm just
kid in a candy store. Look at it. All the
gold records on the wolf. But anyways, as I'm walking
around to go to lunch, there's a lot of homeless people.

(53:58):
So I thought I should write a song about from
the perspective of somebody as to how they got there.
And I kind of did two takes on it. One
where you know, the guy is very positive. It's like,
you know, uh, this is temporary. I'm going to get back,
I'm on my feet, I'm gonna get back on top.
This is just you know, temp temporary situation. And then

(54:22):
at the same time I get into the decline into
dementia where he starts saying, you know, uh, which side
of the street to why I live on? You know,
where do I belong? So I have both of those
elements going on there, which I and I use both

(54:42):
a hard rock you know intro. I use a very
you know, soft rock first, and then I use a
very Genesis like chorus, So I really mashed together a
lot of different styles in that song. The two big,

(55:04):
big mid tempo songs on the album, one is Yorick,
the key song for the album. The other is Top
of the Rainbow. But in Yorick. So it's funny. I'd
say nine out of ten people don't know who Yorick is,
but Yorick is a character, or they kind of just

(55:25):
casually mentioned him in Hamlet. So in Hamlet, you know
he's holding out a skull at one scene he goes poor,
last Poor Yorick. I knew him well and was the
court jester from his youth, and he had a lot
of joy from York. But they don't say much about
York are than that line. But it's a very famous line.
So I wonder what Yorick's backstory it would be. I'm

(55:48):
gonna tell make up a story on how Yorick lost
his head. So I did, and I made up the
story that combined you know, brothers, grim fairytale type of characters.
You've got yeah, uh huh, Bunzel in there, You've got
Rumpel still skin, You've got the proverbial wicked witch in there,
and uh, I put this whole story together and it's

(56:11):
really kind of it's call it a medieval type of
theme song, and so it's a folk folk part meshed
together with some very uh i'd say, prag elements in
the chorus. And I thought it was one of the
two standouts on the album. And I like the name

(56:32):
for the album because I thought it's it really makes
somebody think, what is yourk What does this mean? So
that's A. That's A. And we made a great video
on that. I don't seen it, but there's a wonderful
video where I'm in complete gesture costume and my face

(56:53):
is painted half black half red. Uh. It's right out
of Star Trek uh and.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
No joking as well. And I think we haven't covered
Chameleon yet.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
We Chameleon Okay, So Camellion I wrote, I had this
idea for like a television show theme song, and I wrote,
Chameleon could either be a television show theme song or
a Saturday morning cartoon show. Oh, that'd be fun either one.
This would be a really cool story and it's about

(57:26):
a guy who's, you know, an undercover investigator who you know,
you don't realize he's standing next to you. But because
he's either in a suit or he's in you know,
playing clothes, or he's in shorts like he's at the beach,
you have no idea that he's watching you. And I
thought it was very funny because I put him in like,

(57:46):
you know, eight or nine different types of scenes throughout
the song, and just I was just having fun with that.
It was just a fun tune. The other one's Top
of the Rainbow, which is the only love song on
the album, and it's done in six' eight as opposed
to four to, four and a lot of songs are
done in four to, four so that different time signature

(58:10):
gives it a different. Vibe but the thing that REALLY
i didn't like it when we. FINISHED i MEAN i
won't SAY i didn't like. IT i thought it was
missing something when we finished. It so we huddled AND
i came up with the idea of adding trumpet and.
Trombone and when those two horns were, added the whole
song just lifted up and changed and it really made that,

(58:35):
song you, know a tremendously pretty, song and it's kind
of a. GEEK i loved. YOU i was On top
of The, rainbow but you left type of song.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Real, yeah and the cars you have a lot as well,
Too and where can we Find? Urik and it works that.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Time, well first of, ALL i have my own, website
which is my Name Tom surzak dot. Com and the
only tricky part is spelling my, name WHICH i never
realized it was going to be a problem till AFTER
i took out the. Website but my last name is SPELLED.
Ci you Are charlie Zebra ak And i'm. There i'm

(59:20):
on band. Camp i'll be on all the different streaming
sites as of, tomorrow Being spotify And pandora and YouTube
And Amazon. iTunes it is probably about fifty of them
that will be. On and if you like hard, copy
and if you're a boomer you might like hard. Copy.
Still not only DO i have CDs BECAUSE i have

(59:43):
to send them out to the radio, stations BUT i
made some very cool vinyl and you, KNOW i don't
know if you realize this really big change is going
on in the world of. VINYL i didn't well WHEN
i was up, there you, know looking at what they
have to. OFFER i, mean they have like fifty different
types of, vinyl you, know different, weights and but they

(01:00:04):
have clear, translucent different, colors. Splattered it's it's, crazy all
the different styles of vinyl that they. Have it's really
they become real super collector.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Items so oh, DEFINITELY i still got nine and uh
black and everything. Else will still have my album, collections
So i'll still play from time to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Time and NOW i know so oh, yeah well me.
Too by the, way there's one more song on the
album you didn't, mention BUT i want to mention. It
it's a song Called malleus Malifa. Karum and the reason
the REASON i mentioned is nobody's gonna know what that.
Means and back in The Middle ages there was a
witch Hunter's bible and it was done by The German

(01:00:48):
church and it was called The Malleus Malifa. Karam and
if you look it, up google it, up it gives
you the whole. Story and they would determine if You're
they would have all these different things to determine if
you're a witch or. Not for, example they would fill
your pockets full of rocks and they would throw you
in a. Lake if you, float you're a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Witch sounds like mighty, python it, does but it's. Real
so if it, floats look a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Witch you're a witch, aware, Right BUT i don't think
anybody ever floated because they put big rocks in their, pockets.
Right BUT i wanted to write a metaphor for you,
know the wars were innocent people are getting, killed and you,
know wars are, wars BUT i hate to see innocent
people get. Killed SO i was, like all, right let
me try to figure out HOW i can write a

(01:01:38):
very interesting metaphor about equate killing witches with killing innocent.
PEOPLE i, did and so that's WHY i wanted to
bring that one up as.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Well and certainly Do you're doing a great job of.
It and what's your what's your?

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Website it Is Tom curzak dot. Com by the, way
you can also get there with My instagram, handle which
Is Tokyo tommy fifty eight dot. Com, Okay AND i
realized they couldn't say my, name my, spell my last,
name SO i came up with an. ALTERNATE i may
still come up with a, third uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Huh and there's plenty of other social media go around
with amazing Singer songwray based In, Stella. California Tom zerzaki
And Mike winners show be playing a couple of cuts
From york at the end of the audio, interview we
want everybody to go to that a few more. Things,
Tom we love to have you. Back what else can
we expect me in twenty twenty five and, beyond.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Believe it or, NOT i record the twenty songs At Sunset.
Sound so there is another album in my back pocket
that'll come out twenty twenty, six AND i have enough
material for two more albums after that that are that's
already sitting on the side of my, Desk SO i

(01:02:52):
think there's quite a bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Coming all, right we're looking forward to that as. Well
who do you consider biggest influence in the career?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Time who's my biggest influence in my? Career? Correct outside
musical influences mean? Anything, well you, know quite, honestly, really
when it gets down to it's growing up in a
musical family and and you, know my father was a
horn player and his whole family was, musical and SO

(01:03:20):
i think that it's somehow there's part of it gets
into YOUR. Dna. Now the only thing, is as most
fathers and, SONS i DECIDED i didn't want to be
a horn, player so the guitar seemed the natural. Instrument
ONCE i saw The beatles. Play that's WHY i picked
up the. Guitar AND i picked up the guitar at

(01:03:41):
like ten eleven years, old So i'm not you, KNOW
i that's my go to instrument for. Writing BUT i
also learned to play piano during my teen. Years so
it's fun to be able to write on both types
of instruments because you get a lot different type of
song writing on a piano than you do when you're
writing on a. GUITAR i think it's because you're able
to get a lot more colored colors into the chords

(01:04:05):
because you use different bass tone phrasings with.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
It certainly did as. Well and what's the best advice
you can give to a By at this?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Point you got to create positive. Habits if you want
to be a, songwriter for, example you've got. It it's
like anything. Else if you're gonna be a, painter you've
got to practice painting every. Day if you're gonna be a,
poet you gotta practice poetry every. Day if you're gonna
be A shredder, guitarist you better practice being A shredder

(01:04:34):
guitarist every. Day and that means you need to take
lessons and you need to practice in the right, way
and you need to have people that no more than you,
know that can coach you along the. Way don't be
afraid to take lessons because you know you can grow
by leaps and bounds if you've got the right. Teacher

(01:04:55):
AND i think that's really REALLY i MEAN i at
a young, AGE I i had a couple of guitar
teachers that IF i didn't have, THEM i probably would
never have stuck with the. Guitar but you, know both
of them really influenced me in a way that, like all,
Right i'm Gonna i'm gonna master this. Thing AND i.

(01:05:17):
Did it took took time because you know a lot
of kids at, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen they don't have the.
Coordination but keep at it you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Will and certainly that's great advice as. Well we own
everybody do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
That it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Amazing singer songwriter based in Southern, California Tom sirzak here
on The Mike Whinners show With. York we want everybody
to go to the audio interview and check out the. Music,
tom very, big thank you time you've been as a
fantastic learned a lot looking. Forward heamn soon keeps up
they keeping talk to laugh at you. Back what's what's your?
Website how do people contact? You or can people purchase

(01:05:53):
or check out your?

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Music well, again it Is, tom sirzak. CEE i you
are Sees ak dot com Or Tokyo tommy fifty eight dot.
Com that'll get you to my. Website you can buy
my all my, CDs all my albums. There i'm also
on band camp and pretty Soon i'm gonna be up On.

(01:06:17):
AMAZON i haven't put them up there, yet But i'm
gonna get the albums of CDs up On amazon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Too and we'll certainly check that out as. Well once, Again,
toime a very big thanks you. Time if you've been
absolutely amazing looking forehand soon keeps up, today keep in,
touch leve heavy. Back we Wish i'll best In. Tom
you definitely have a great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Fiture, Hey, hey Thanks. MIKE i really enjoyed.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
IT i Think i'm going.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Craze i'm tired of feeling for these. Days i'll need to.
Nowhere he is my this momic.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
Scot i'm moving To Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Beach become a mercenary and take me contproment.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
Talkers i'm tired all that ordinary life more let it
drags what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Down it runs out home and, live break out of
his cookoon.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
And IF i don't come, back me on my page
at your Boot jase me right? There AM i In?
Miair AM i In? Miami jase me round the? Moon
AM i am My? Air AND i Am. Miami as

(01:07:56):
long as il, Page i'll five four in, Cars i'll
shoot up the da as if they were the be a.
Car they'll, say ain't this? Living ain't that what laughs?
About i've Been i'm. Crazy i'm tired of being.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Born in or one out in.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Life don't let it drags upside, down it runs out
off and, live don't let it into Soon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
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Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
My Pegnet Jason, Right AM i Am myair AND i Am.
Miami jason me round? Moon AM i am My? AIRY
i In miami dressed me run the? Move AM i

(01:09:34):
am my Remed miami.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Dress me?

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Round AM i am My Rema? Miami dress me? Round
AM i am My Remia.

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