The Lifestyle effect w/ Lorenzo

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's one of my This is Ross Oh, the Mystic Effect.
And of course I'm always joining with my wonderful, beautiful,
spectacular co hosts, the lovely miss Sarah Lace.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thank you. We are back at it again. But instead
of bringing you guys a new beat, we've actually bring
We're actually bringing you someone who is playing in the
industry for quite a bit. I would consider them a
bit of a veteran and someone who really knows what
they are doing. So, hello, Lorenzo, how are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Day?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Doing good? Doing good? Nice to be here with both
of you.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
So for everybody there who don't know who you are,
tell us who are you? All right?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
For the people there, I'm Lorenzo. I've been involved as
a master dominant in the BDSM lifestyle for about forty
five years, prior law enforcement for about thirty five have
been I'm a voice artists for several genres, erotic readings,
things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, so okay, I'm interested. So what are have you?
Have you been a voice over for?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I've done radio, some commercials, TV commercials, I've done narrations, awards,
night talk Okay, things like you might be in a
movie theater and you'll hear about the use of photography
is not used and adult run to your nearest exit,

(01:38):
things like that anywhere where the voice I've done, Oh wow, I.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Feel like that deep voice is definitely what, like what
does it for people?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
But I'm also a little curious to hear about those
erotic readings. I'd like for you to say something around it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, sometimes people just need a little extra boots boosts
at nighttime, daytime or something just to talk them through
some of their fantasies. So, you know, anything that you
would want to hear, you know, while you're laying there
relaxing on your stomach while I breathe on your back
or let you down or something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, I like.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
People. I got started doing ladies answering services from stalkers
so that the stalkers would stop calling. And that's how
it began. Okay, I'm interested, like was it a website
or was it just now it's word of mouth? And

(02:51):
then I took some training courses. But I've always been teased,
even in elementary school all the way through. So once
the word got out, it picked up from that point when.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You got teased because your deep voice.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Or oh man, the teachers whatever. You stand in front
of class and talk and no one would hear you,
so they want you to repeat it, you know, like that,
and so it paid off in the end, but it
was it was rough.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
This is why I had I speak louder than my
voice is.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Because Roster has a deeper voice as well.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, when I speak normally, like it's really low. And
I had and they made me go through like training
so I can speak higher than my actual voice thinking
is and I try. I maintained this voice unless you
catch me when I'm just like it, it just come

(03:46):
on like a yeah, I don't want to, uh try
to talk the way I was taught to talk. And
people just find this like kind of intimidating because it
doesn't the plag it's coming from this body. It doesn't match.
It doesn't match.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So yeah, I understand.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
So, but also like, uh so it's something for recent things.
You're about to be the voice of the voice of
uh the as and Awards.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, I've done it the last two years and this
year I will be announcing for the awards that YouTube
will be also there and uh yeah, I'll be doing that.
That's a good opportunity. It's a lot of fun. But
is it a great experience? Is it live on YouTube?

(04:39):
I don't know if they're filming live, it's no telling
what could happen. Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be an experience.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I've ever been to that, Like since I really ever
travel for uh unless it's in l A for award shows,
Like I never traveled for wardoes. This is my first
one from my first and so I'm looking forward to
seeing how they do their award show. And like from

(05:09):
everything I'm saying, it's gonna be really fun. And I'm
seeing all of a sudden, you're posting and everybody else
is posting, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm looking
forward to this. And instead of well, this is gonna
air on the Monday before the show because we were
recording early, but it's in less than a month for us,
So I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I have already got my dress picked out. I haven't
been to it either, so I'm really excited for this
new experience.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, it's gonna be nice. One thing about ASN it's
all walks of life that'll be there. It's not just
porn or cam. You have everything from publicists, people coming
from the UK, and it's adults. You know, we don't
have any foolishness at these awards, so you can have
a good time, get close to people that you might

(05:59):
not other awards and the and the functions. You know,
we'll look forward to seeing Sarah Layson hood dress, you know.
So it's gonna be a nice, nice time.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I hate that I won't be able to be in
town for uh because I have other obligations. I will
be in town for I think it's a musician show
like that Thursday, and I won't be able that's right, Well,
on Friday morning. I won't get into Friday after like
late Friday afternoon, so I won't be able to be

(06:32):
there for that. The first thing I can attend is
a white party, and that's just because of you know,
of other obligations. But it's just like I'm looking forward
to that white party, the masquerade party, and I'm like, oh,
this is gonna be fun and yeah, which I can
go to everything, but you know.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, you'll have a great time there. That's one thing.
It's a lot of fun and there's not any pressure
to have to perform, you know, you can just be
there relaxed me with people that you normally wouldn't see
and just just have a have a great time.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, because I know from what I've been looking at
I previously only know like outside of you, i've met
you before, like three other people that's actually going to
be there, So I'm looking forward to like meeting a
lot of new individuals. So it's kind of like, yeah,
like I love that interaction to the meeting a whole

(07:27):
bunch of different life and interesting because you, like you
do be a BDSM and I'm really I love the lifestyle,
but I don't really meet a lot of people who
normally just focus on that, like you know, since I
don't go to like the fact cons and stuff like that.
So I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, Like I said, it would be nice just on
a Saturday if you want to relax about the pool,
if you're staying there. Yeah, just a chance to meet
people that I say you normally wouldn't in a relaxed setting.
People are different when they relax. Get to see that
too much.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
So you're saying I need to bring a bikini, then.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh you're going to see a lot of stuff. But yeah,
you definitely come.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
On, make sure to pack a couple.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, do what you do.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm gonna show up because honestly, that's one of the
things that I like to do, is like dress up
all fancy or something that I wouldn't normally wear, and
also use that as a way to get people to
approach me, you know, at the time, telling me that
they love my dress. Like sometimes I still get shy

(08:39):
at events and I'd rather people approach me because I'm like, oh,
they're amazing. I don't know what to say.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, well, like I said, you know, let people know
you're coming, and uh, they'll be looking out for you. Also,
and I see somebody, I'm gonna pull them your way.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Rat the way and by the way, everybody, Uh, this
is a ward show the I think I think the
Monday after the War Show is Arizzo's birthday. So yeah,
so make sure make sure if you see him this weekend,
educate he leaves early on Monday, whatever, you don't see

(09:17):
him on Sunda or he leaves Sunday, you give him
a big birthday hook for those of you who are
actually going to the War Show, just you know, I
just want to throw that out there.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, so you know, have a good time.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is there anything that you're planning on doing for your
birthday or using a sn as a way to celebrate.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I'll celebrate with family and family and anyone else that
is there, and just being able to relax after this
weekend's a.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Lot going on.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, well my voice, you know, like that. But it's
gonna be a nice time.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
That sounds amazing. You know. A random question. Have you
ever been the voice that like a strip club feature
or something, because I feel like you have that kind.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Of Yeah, yeah, I've done Yeah, I've done strip clubs
for males and females, whatever. Whatever the voice is needed
in something, I've probably done it. It's everywhere. Sometimes I'll
just do a tape and send it off and I
don't even know where it's going. But the stripper thing
is good. We had a lot of fun with that.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Because it says forty five you've been a B B
S educator? Well, or do you focus on in the
education that you give out to persons? I don't know
which do you focus on or what do you educate?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Or well? With BDSM, I'm considered a master in the
art of BDSM and domination, a dominant and that's from
the long time. It's an old school for me, you know,
before social media. So when you talk about BDSM, it's

(11:09):
a difference of being a dominant in that dynamic, then
say being into fetishes that entel some of the BDSM
things like sessions, impact play and things like that. That's
more of things that you do, but it may not
be you being a dominant in BDSM. So it's a

(11:30):
it's a lot. I can do the sessions, the impact,
sensory deprivation, anything like that, extreme impact. That's a specialty
of mine. But if you're really getting into that BDSM dynamic,
that's a whole different mindset of being in charge or
controlling or looking out and guiding and directing another individual

(11:53):
that is of the submissive. You know, it takes on
a lot. So that's that's something that I've meant hurt
some other people to be true dominance, not someone that
just says they are because they build a word out
a lot. I'm a domin You know, if someone tells
you that your function right away, don't believe it. That's
not the one that you want to deal with. If

(12:15):
you're dominant, all that you don't have to advertise if
you're true.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because I do feel like domination and submission is really
comes down to the way that you act, even when
that you're not in that space.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
You know, yes, people know truly, you can tell. And
a lot of the things are of the mind, not
the physicality of things. All the time, your mind is
your strongest part of your body, your strongest organ and
that's what you really need to control, cultivate, enhance, and
that's not what's really being done. People now flog somebody

(12:54):
and they're domb and you know you're hurting people. People
are getting hurt. Some people that are looking for that
guidance are convinced that this person can do this for them,
and they're really not in it for that a So
I always tell them just wear a T shirt and
say what you want. If you want to have sex
and I'm a sex dom, if I want to beat someone,
I'm an beat down down. But don't profess something that

(13:15):
you're not because there are people that are really counting
on you.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, that's understandable because like I will say that I
have tried it too, domb with you times, but I
feel like I don't actually know how to beat a
dom and fact, I also am more submissive in a sense,
so I really kind of would rather submit than dominate.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
H And that's that could be your calling, you know.
And but research and talking to people that really know
that's always the best way.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Now, you might be dominating in certain practices that you like.
They could be a regular or it could be in
say sexual in nature that's something different altogether. That just
may be your thing, you know. But like I said,
just research and cultivate what you like and surround yourself
with the right people. You can have a ball.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Because I know there's a lot of people who I
know that want to do things in that lifestyle, but
they bruise really easily, and they don't like the bruising
that comes with it, even if they do something minor,
like if they are getting like you know, flagged, and
it can get bruised, and it's very difficult for them

(14:38):
to learn how to, you know, or what they need
to do to not get a mark or a bruise,
even if they're not even going at it. You know.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Some people are like that. And sometimes to adapt to
more sensory play or lighter objects and then the mind,
there's things that can be done to you mentally that
could take you to a place you've never been. And
then as a dominant who's in charge of that, can
take you to that place and then take you further

(15:14):
because I've decided how far I want you to go
and enhance you, to take you to that level where
you're you know, the unknown without a bruise on you,
and that's where you know training and techniques and all that.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So when you say sensory play, do you just like,
how can I say this?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I would say, like feathers, feathers for sensory play, or
like hedgephones and like whispering in someone's ear or stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's like things.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
And this is where my voice does come in handy,
because if I was holding you in a certain way
around your neck and whispering in your ear, vibrating my
body around yours, stay with me.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Sarah, I was just like, okay, tell me more.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
And holding you real tight where you feel bright vibrations, whispering,
moaning in your ear deep down. It may take you
to a certain way without leaving a bruise on you,
and you may enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You never know, Oh, I think I would absolutely.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Enjoy I'm gonna surprise you at ASN and just say
your name in your ear and you're not gonna know
it's me. I would love that, Okay, Yeah, I'll get you.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh you're the Masquerade Ball. You should do that.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Were walking around our juicy at the Masquerade Ball, right,
jusy for no reason?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, but no, sensory could be everything. And even if
it's light, Bruce, I mean, electro play sometimes may not
leave the same bruising, and that's a whole nother entity.
You know, that could be done well.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
The other thing I know with her, like she can't
get electrocuted because it didn't work well with her.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, my body's too sensitive for that. We've tried it, well.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I've tried it before, so all types of electro play
or just a certain thing. Yeah, there's so much, you
know that could be done.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Because basically what we try to do before we actually
use it on me is to just test it. And
you've tried different electro things and they just even on
the lowest setting, it's too much for my body.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay. I do like some.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
What type of play, I do.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like some impact play though, and sensory.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I do like to new impact and extreme impacts. There's
different fetishes that are out there that a lot of
people have never seen and will never see. There's people
that like to have appendages broken, you know, and you
will never see that. That's in a different setting that
others don't go to or allowed to.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, I've seen blood play before. It like the cutting one. Again,
I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't contain or
tame anybody. It's just a lot of ones I've seen
that I I understand it, but I just don't.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
If that makes sense. Some things that we just know
we would not partake in.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, and that like the blood, Like just watch the
beauty of it. You just watching the blood. It was
it was like it was a BDS demonstration night. They
were just showing different things and that like that went
and ball buzzing that they were showing that night are
the two that I know that wouldn't You wouldn't be

(19:14):
in my uh, wouldn't be in my interest. It was
turned me away.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
But you mostly see impact canes, vloggers, things like that.
But even that opens up a whole another world of
so much that you can do and how you can
do it. Where you add sensory deprivation to the impact.
Would you lose a certain amount of sensors in your body?
You get that, you know, fight or flight, get a

(19:41):
different mindset. So if I can put you in a
spot where you can't see or can't hear, that's two senses.
So now everything's going to be different to your body.
You know, breathplay, that really adds a different sensation.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, that's why I do a lot of people who
you see them do stuff. They're always wearing like blindfold.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah three freeze h m hm. I can hear them,
I guess, Louie.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, the lorens will get there.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
That's pretty awesome to hear though. Yeah, he's back.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
There you are. I hate this can I hate I
hate contact. Oh the internet we have over here. It's
been acting up the last two days.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So I did screen record the part where right after
you hopped off roster, so we have we have buddies.
But yeah, I can stop the screen recording and then
we can hop onto the recording.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I should, I should do this. Well that happened. They
control internet.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
There you go, doctor. I just had the screen recording
because my pet doesn't have that much memory.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Anyways, I'm sorry about that you're back anyway, go ahead,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
We're discussing, okay. So while while your internet was down,
Lorenzo and I were still chit chatting a little bit.
I was letting him know about the kind of so
that I am. I guess the kind of switch I am,
and how I'm a little bit of a brat but.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I will say a little bit, a little.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Bit someone knows me, But yeah, I I am the
kind of rat that wants to be tightened by certain
key all I would say, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
That could be, that could be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, I just make you.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Work for it a little bit. But I don't know.
Sometimes it's like a like a switch. Sometimes you'll I'll
be bratty for an hour and then you just say
something or do a certain move, and then I'm like, okay,
I just become this cliant.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Like I said, just enjoy whatever whatever you want. You
just enjoy and don't settle ever.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, that's very true.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
See, Like the person who I'm hanging with now was
that that let me be more of a switch. I'm like,
I can't. I can't do like I've always in my
life been, rather than be a dominant, so and it's
kind of hard for me to try to get into
that role because I'm not used to it and I
feel wrong, like even like hitting, like doing something physical

(23:03):
to somebody that causes a minute's going amount of pain,
even if you know it's playful pain, it's still mindset,
you know. So it's kind of if So if you
were talking to someone about getting into that role from

(23:23):
being the set up only to trying to transition into
a switch, what would be the best advice you would
give them?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And you're talking about submissive and.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Every everything they are one hundred.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Thousand given every aspect of life.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
What you want to do, too, is to find out
what a true submissive is. There's misconceptions that in sex,
I the one that you handcuffed or whatever. That's up,
But are you really submissive in everything? If I have
a dynamic, a twenty four to seven dynamic with a submissive,

(24:07):
I may be in charge of everything, their finances, what
they wear, what they eat, guiding them and directing them,
uplifting them to be the best that they can be.
But you have to be prepared to relinquish all of that,
and not too many are, and then not too many
dominants that are prepared to take on those responsibilities. They

(24:27):
may say it, but they're not. So I would tell
someone that's going to be find out what a true
submissive is. Do your research and see if you're really
prepared for that. In life, that's a rarity for someone
to relinquish certain things, give up all those things, and
then trust in another human being to be your guide

(24:49):
and direction in all those things.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, thinking so.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
The question, so I used to say, you are an educator,
Where can everybody where? Where does people usually uh contact
you in order to get this educator? Or do you
do workshops at places? Or Yeah, I'll be honest to
you on this show.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
There's so much faking going around that I don't do advertisement.
There's networks of people that want to, you know, do
this for real, and I mentor a few so that
the dominance will be I say, as we were before
social media. You know a lot of people want different
team andutes of fame and they're getting away from the

(25:41):
true art. So through different networks, you know, get in
contact or they get in contact with me and I
interact with them in that way. I really haven't done
many workshops. I've done talks at people's events like that,
But the true one on one stuff is friend Let's
say on the ground waves, you know that we get

(26:03):
in contact with each other.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Okay, okay, we're just trying to understand because I know that.
And you said a lot of people will fake it, and
like a lot of people who aren't true dominant who
try to teach people how to be dominant, they can
give incorrect information to say or information that really isn't

(26:27):
going to help a couple or single have se like
has success in their happiness in order to that make
it like they're not going to really make them happy
because they only know a certain amount and it can
deter them from enjoying the lifestyle, then giving them some

(26:50):
type of enjoyment from being in the lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
That's why I say do your research when you're in
a room. Dominant doesn't have to let you know they're
a dominant. A lot of people want you to know
because they're convincing themselves. So that's something to look out for.
And what's happening. There are folks now that really need
this and they're looking for someone and then they get

(27:17):
someone who's fake and it's leading to mental abuse, the suicides,
all kind of things like this, and the real you know,
the one that's faking to be a dominant, doesn't realize
the impact that they're.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Doing to people.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Everything now is sex related. At some point that's going
to come up, and the real dynamics and a lot
of them, you know, doesn't have anything to do with that.
That's not even a part of it. So the research.
Taking your time is no rush. If you want something right,
just take your time, and you know it will make

(27:51):
itself available to you.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I feel people don't understand that, like it is people
who are suicidal. I felt like we don't understand, and
like the levels in which like who are who are
into like a degregation you know, being you know, put
down and stuff like that. They don't understand, like the
levels of which you can go down and the levels
of which is too much and when to stop and

(28:15):
when to you know, settle or et cetera, et cetera.
So true, and.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
The different types of aftercare that are needed. Notice that
some people don't really think about that, or they think
aftercare is this very specific thing, you know, when it's
not one decide fits all. Everyone needs different types of
aftercare and It also depends on the kind of session

(28:44):
essentially that you're having.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, and that's where you have to know and communication
and a lot of people that really don't know what
they're doing. I'm not going to take the time to
even you know, discuss to learn. Like you say, after care,
it's different for everybody. Everyone is different, you know, totally.
So it's nothing really to play with if you're going

(29:08):
to get really serious with it. It's not a game.
You don't want to play with that. If you want
to do a session, if you want to do fetishes,
then that's what you do. Just just just keep it
real on what you want.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay, Okay, you had mentioned about exploring what you like
and sticking to that.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's that's the key, and ask questions, you know, there
there's no reason to ask questions. You will hear talk
to people. There's a lot of bad people out there.
They'll make themselves known to you in their own way.
That's that's where you stay away from. But there's so
much more to explore. No one knows everything, you know,
we're all learning every day.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
And yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Level of what you thought excited you to the max
may only behalf of what you can achieve in the
right setting.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
You never know what makes sense.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I will say, because certain times I want more impact
than others, you know, other times maybe I want to
be essentially dominated. So I will say, even even even
amongst an individual, it's not always the same kind of play.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
That's true. That's true. It's not one not one thing
for everybody. Everyone. Everyone is different. Every situation can change.
Like you say, on the drop of a diet, it
could be something I might do something to trigger you
into another zone, you know, or bring you into something
that you don't even know that you may like.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, that's true. That's the part.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I'd say, What do you feel is the most consistent
question that you've got gotten during your education period from people?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Uh, they probably want to know do I beat people?
And and how do I beat them? That's that's the
that's the most question that you hear, and I'll explain
with extreme impact. And some of these things you don't
even want to know about, you know, what people like

(31:22):
as fetishes and things like that.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I don't think I do, because you know, because I'm
curious because like, like, uh, the broken bone thing, I've
never heard that before, but I can see because people
are really are into extreme things, like ever since I
seen blood play was a thing and seeing people cutting

(31:45):
and they were into it sexually. I know, there's a
lot of things out there that I've never that I
probably can't even think of that people are into.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
You know, Yeah, fetishes are There's so much. There's fetishes
of people that like to be amputated in different places
of their body. That's a fetish you can. Yeah, there's
so much.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
There's so much you could do, like well you got
you got tid figures, you know for that gone then
you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
And you will see that that's something that you have
to be in a certain network that ninety nine point
nine will never be a part to even see something
like that, like like say the bones. Different apparatuses on people, like.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Like the bone breaking bones heal and you could you know,
split in that and that can heal whatever. But amputation, though,
it's like that's gone now it's well.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
And to some it's the actual build up, the anticipation,
the act afterwards, being able to know what's gone, to
see that it's gone. I mean there's a level of
excitement that only that person can explain.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I understand. But also I also can understand, like this
is just from my in my brain, if they liked
it to the point of like if someone was breaking
your finger whatever, and they take it to the or whatever,
and they take it to the point where it was
just about to be broken, but they don't break it,
or they get to the point where they're cutting it

(33:38):
down whatever, and it's to the point where it's still usable,
but they've gotten the pain of it going deep, but
actually loosing it forever. It's kind of like, you know,
depending on your age apparatus, it's kind of like, you know,
I might want to flick somebody off in ten years

(33:59):
and I'm only twenty five and that thing's gone now,
and I can't you know, flip them, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
So, yeah, their mindset is only only that, you know,
I've known people with choking and all it's the actual act,
the anticipation. Some want the handprint to be able to
see it later on, you know, to remember, you know.
So there's a lot in that. And that's one thing

(34:27):
I will say for people that are out there faking,
a lot of them don't even know how to choke properly.
That wind up killing somebody. Different ways of choking. Yeah,
they don't. They don't even know what they're doing. You'll
see them pick up a flogger, start flogging somebody, and
all they do is start attacking those kidneys. They don't
even know. I mean, you got to learn the body.
You know, in all my training, I had to learn

(34:48):
the whole body before I even could touch anybody. You know,
you have to you have to learn how it will
affect what it's going to do, with how your body
is going to react. I'm monitoring people's skin and the hair,
their breathing patterns, everything. You know, when you really want
to do these things correctly, you know, you have to learn.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Understand that there's no yeah, because it can be very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Label have died, so you can't play around with this.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Even even with even with like you know, just regular paddles.
People are hitting people on the butt whatever. You have
to know how to hit the butt because you can
mess somebody uh spine up if you hit it incorrectly.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
There's zones, the zones on the body that should never
be touched. That's something that should be touched lightly, some
that can have more of an impact.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
You need to leave.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
You need to learn that before you even start playing
around with paddles and things like that.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, I've had I've had a couple of pretty bad
experiences before where my my tail home was bruised one
time just from improper flogging, and it was just it
was not like it obviously started fun. And then after
that I was like, Okay, say for a time.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
You know, people don't know the importance of a safe word,
because even when you're with someone who knows what they're doing,
like some people know that you know, hey you got
to stop or whatever, if people just don't notice it
right away and it's kind of like a a ah,

(36:35):
this is at the stub to understand when you got
to say tap out, you know too much whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
And also with that, what if I'm taking you to
a place where now you can't express your safe word.
This is where I have to really know you know
your body signs. I have to really be paying attention,
especially you can't talk. What if I got a ballgag
in your mouth? You can't talk? Yeah, I have to
I have to really know you. I have to be

(37:02):
able to feel your back, feel your heartbeat changed a
little bit more, this you know, little little things, that's
the safe It isn't always you know, can that always
save you? You know, And that's that's like doing sessions
with someone that's intoxicated. You never want to do that.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, No, that's definitely a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, it's unsafe. Someone could really get hurt like that.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
This personally.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
People may change.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Gag that they need to throw up because they're intoxicated
and they can't to the ballgag is in there, and
now they're just regurgitate, regurgitating.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
On Yeah, exactly. That's one of the unsafe situations that
people can get themselves into and they don't know what
they're doing.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I've had people get to a zone and say a
safe word that they used in the past that's not
the safe work today, you know, because they wanted to autopilot. Yeah,
but you have to be monitoring because it's you know,
you got to pay attention. You may think you're going
to handle this at some point, but you may not.
And you have to trust on who you're with, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
That's very true. I feel like in order to even submit,
you have to trust a person.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Communication time, you know that the mind that causes patience,
and a lot of people today don't have patience, because
that's not really what they're looking for.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
That's true. That's true. I will say I have gained
patience time because that's not one thing that comes easily.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
In general, I feel you're your in depth. You know
you you you like what you like, and you're very
curious about things, and that's a good way to be.
You know, enjoy your life to the max every day
if you can.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Speaking of enjoying life, but what is one of the
funnest sexual experiences that you've had while in the industry.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I like.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
In the industry. I like to sit also and watch
another dominant, like my partner, interact with someone because they're
very professional how they do it, and to bring those
people to a certain level that's they weren't expecting to see. Okay,

(39:38):
sit back and just enjoy, you know, and see someone
else's pleasure and you know, watch my partner do. That's
that's very enjoyable. My ultimate for myself is to be
on a big rock like in Hawaii, with lava coming
on both sides, enjoying the pleasure right there.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh that sounds hot. Wait, m quite literally hot, but
like that sounds like amazing. I don't know if that's
a doable dream, but that definitely sounds fun.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, that would be that would be different, right, I.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Mean you could do it, I guess in like an
artificial setting like one of those I would say, like
a big volcano with some like water that's like dying
and it just like shoots that we can make your
fantasy come to life.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Would imagine the heat and the danger knowing that that's it.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, absolutely most.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Likely you're not going to make it out of that
situation anyway, so that will be it.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Like I guess, POMPEII.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, I have a completely sigh question, and this is
to do with what you said about U. You know
what you did before in law. Do you still teach
people how to you know, do the hand to hand
combat and stuff like that. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
I teach some hand to hand weaponry and all that
special training that I had.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Do you still do it now or yes? If I
have to? What what do you like? Is it just
it just like you know, we like guns, or.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Is it other weaponry, guns, sticks and paddles. I did
so much with the Department while I was also in
the BDSM, and way back then people didn't know what
it was all about. So it was a rarity that
I was doing both. I had equipment that was an

(41:44):
issue to me from the department that I could also
use in sessions that nobody had a whole big bag
and everything, and different training. So I had training on
how to do different things with different people. And I
was one of the few that would go to a
run and be and they say a party because back

(42:06):
then it wasn't advertised. It was they were deviants and
no one liked anyone in any lifestyle and to have
them so scared until I walked in and asked, what
you know, what's the dynamic going on? And they're looking
at me like you actually know about this, So then
they have me on their guest list from that point on.
You know. But way back, no one was talking about

(42:27):
this sort of thing like that. But it has changed
since social media has changed a lot. But yeah, I
still do certain training in that hand to hand stuff
and weapons, gas all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Gas mask or gas how do you refuse? Like do
you take much trying to make their own gas?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Or know? How did how to defend yourself?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
No, like you got you got you gotta like like
you military law enforcement. I'm just the innocent advice nder
who tries to stay out out the way to not
get hurt.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
You're not wrong. You're not wrong, because as soon as
he said, I was like, Okay, Matt, I get it.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Y'all. Y'all, y'all acting like I I've been in a
fight in the last last twenty years. I haven't even
been in a fight in the last twenty years. About it.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You see, you see a lot of gas on TV
with the riot situations and things like that. It's it's
a good tool and combating things, the different types of gas,
the different types of canisters, it's whole there's a whole
bunch of things. You know, we're coming back.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
And how to create a makeshift mask as well.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
It was so it was just water water in a shirt,
but so you have.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
To have several layers. And I've been trained with an
actual gas mask and how to clear.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Mm hmm merge.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know, y'all, I have combat training. I
can't even throw a punch, so I didn't have this
render like look, I'm sorry, like you can take it. So, yeah,
I'm so empty violence at the combative.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
You know, hopefully you never have to, you know, do anything.
I've been on front lines in that full gear with
a mask and a big helmet and all that this
hundred degrees and gases going. People are throwing bricks, fighting
and all. I mean, you know, it's a different experience.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I mean, I hope I would never have to be
in one, but given the environment, you never know. You
never know.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
And mind you, I know people may hate your side
of it, but at the end of the day, you're
just doing your job.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, no, hate it too. They're in the alley getting
ready to get robbed. I pop up good school. So
if you don't want to do that type of job,
you just don't do it. Absolutely, yeah, But you know
I was able to get out alive. I did thirty
five years and saw a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's free amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
So other things you do you do publicly outside of
asn WAL Do you have coming up that you can
speak about.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
My partner, Casey Carter, is a part of Exotica, so
we're at Exotica's everyone you know, I guess since twenty seventeen,
I've been to every Exotica, so I'm always there. Other
people's events I may, you know, go to this year,
I'm only scheduled for Exotica's ASN right now, but you know,

(45:49):
something could come up. They've requested me to do some
talk about domination and all that, so I may be
appearing in Ohio one day for that.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Okay, And speaking of that, would you be doing any
of those at exactly?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
No, I haven't done a seminar in a while. We're
in the works and maybe trying to do some things.
One thing we had before was I guess it was
called security. It was a security thing with social media. Okay,
doing a seminar like that, like, for instance, where you're
sitting at in your room right here, I was teaching

(46:30):
people how stalkers and bad people can really find out
everything about you just based on a picture. Yeah, when
you're refrigerator alone, there's always a picture. I could see dates,
appointments on your calendar, family photos, your note to get
this tag and all this, and you know, you could
track people down by a lot of things. And you

(46:51):
have to be very careful with social media.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
That's very true. And to be honest, that is why
I've kept a lot of these things generic. A lot
of my backgrounds don't have personal information.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah, that's good. And law enforcement we have tracked a
lot of people based on the social media. They'll film
their neighbor's car. They won't film their house, but they'll
film their neighbors because they'll film their neighbor's dog, which
is a uniquettepe dog to the neighborhood. You just mess
up and then a lot of people tell their whole

(47:25):
life story on social media and that's how their house
gets broken into. Because people know where they're not going
to be and for how long and when they arrive somewhere.
You know, so you have to be very careful what
you do. Even in Exonica, sometimes you got to be
very careful. I watch out for a lot of people
in Exonica.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
You have seen like like I don't I'm not going
to say which one, but I know it's one in
particular that people say they worry the most because of
stalkers at this particular city one and like they worry
the bike. People are weird for no reason at certain places,

(48:03):
and it sucks because you know, you just want to
live your life and spread enjoyment to individuals and you
got just some weirdo who don't understand this is a fantasy.
You didn't like, I understand you love what I do,
but it's not for you to try to take advantage
of the situation, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, And at the end of the day, part of
the security risk kind of has to do with the
layout of a hotel.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Mh.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I'm not sure if I should like go too deep
into this, but there are certain ones where you can
see whoever walks into their room just from where you're
sitting at a lobby. You know, things like that where
you're just like, okay, it's really easy for a stocker
to see where you're which room you're going into during in.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Certain hotels and in the training we did some of that.
First time meeting in a whole tell always, you know,
tell the person on the desk before you know, I'm
meeting somebody walking right up to the desk and say, yeah,
this is a person I was meeting. Now they're on
camera and you got a witness of who you're with. You. No,
don't ever meet them at your room, don't tell them
your room number. If you do, give them a wrong room,

(49:15):
because they're gonna come there early and go to the
wrong room.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
But I do a threat assessment of where I'm staying before,
so I know EXI. It's the weak points and strong points.
That's just from the training. But you have to really
be diligent out there. There's some people that just that's
all they do is spend twenty four hours a day
watching social media doing this and they're planning, that's all
they're doing.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Another tip that I would like to give is not
to post your location until after you left it. Yeah,
for example, people posting stories of them having fun at
a bar or having dinner out with friends. I always
tell them not to post it and tell you're already
leaving there, or wait till the next day, stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Like that, or at least like if you do, if
it's like you could tell which one you're at, don't
post it. But if you can't tell, don't tag like
where you're at, like if you're at like for example,
if you're at a theater, you're watching a movie whatever,
and like a lot of those look universal, So if

(50:26):
you post that whatever, but if you say I am
currently at blah blah theater, then it's like, oh, you're
telling someone where you're at and they will wait outside
for you to you know, finish. It's weird, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, I've heard people say that there's been like stockers
waiting for them at the airport because they knew they
were getting home that day.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
We've had stalkers, you know, say with the law enforcement.
They've taken flights, they've taken the same flight that the
other person took. Yeah, they didn't even know it was
sitting right behind them. You know the whole time.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
That is insane.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
They are extreme to the levels that they will go.
You always have to keep your eyes open and just
be diligent, you know, and tell a friend, tell somebody
else one thing about stockers. They don't want to be
known by a lot of people. They want this one
on one interaction, but when the crowd knows something about them,
then they shy away from.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
That type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Very true. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
So last question before we get into anning, So do
you do, like, would you be open to do any
of the training you making you do for performers who
are at the Exetica as they're coming up or is
it just.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Le's your you tah like in a session or something
that they may want to do. If somebody was looking
to do something and they came and approached and said
I just wanted a little technique on this. Can you
help do that? Yeah, sure, I'm always willing to help.
You know, I'd rather that than someone do something and
act like they know and they don't. Yeah, we all
can get help. So sure, I'm always willing to you know,

(52:08):
like if you came to me and said, I want
you to do this too, I'm Sarah because I know
she likes it. You know, sure we can work that
out together, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You know, like yes, as long as we fuild it.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
So no, but yeah, that that's that's definitely. I have
been asked for certain things, and you know I have
helped in some of the sessions that they've done.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Okay, perfect, So now you guys know, if you need
some tips on bdism on safety, go find Lorenzo Exatias.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
So yeah, yeah, but yeah, we said earlier we're about
the for in a second, but everybody who's going to
a s N, make sure you listen up for this
magical voice. It's gonna be and you can say, like
you say, oh my damn, that's that's runs are right
there the whole time, and and like you know, and oh,

(53:06):
by the way, is in they put her added there
this month? Like so yeah, the very first one they're
in their magazine is the picture of Sarah like like
near the like in the whole it's a whole page
thinking of just Sarah Layson there.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
So yeah, they have you up for the sponsorship thing
that you're doing, and you're doing it. You're doing it big,
you know, and that's the way to go. You're gonna
you're gonna have some fun at this event. I can
guarantee you.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Thank you. I do say I had a thank Rosster
for that making this happen.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Oh no, I'm just I'm just I'm just here. I'm
just I'm just a guy. Got a guy, a guy
with a camera.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, let him know. You're you're both you know your
company and you are up for So.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, we're nominated for Best Podcast for this podcast, of course,
and I'm nominated for Best Photographer, and hopefully i we
will it will be like my first, my first award period.
I think Sarah's also we win for best Podcast. So

(54:14):
it'd be great to say like, oh, I've been here
for seventeen years and I finally got it, got something
to say that I'm good at I'm good at this work.
So then like this year, like we're a sponsor like
I've done at a little less photography this year, just
so I can, you know, just sponsor events and enjoy

(54:35):
the event rather than working it. So and I need
I needed. I needed that mental break a little bit
because it was getting overwhelming. So either way, hopefully we
win something and then and then we'll hear here. Yeah
so yeah, well we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
We'll see your names as I announced, not mine, ease,
and someone will announce the winners like that. But yeah, c.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
N wait, that's not what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Uh. By the way, So, Lorenzo, where can anybody find you? Support?
You get like whatever.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I'm on Twitter and Instagram. I haven't had for a
voice work also on Twitter and I can get that there.
My Twitter is Lorenzo for zero one six and Instagram
is Lorenzo G two nine two zero. They're gonna fed life,
I'm sir, underscore, Lorenzo. You can get me at all

(55:43):
of those places or through as n you can you know,
track me down?

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah there you.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Sarah doesn't have to because I'm coming for her at
the awards.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
That's right. You got you.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Work? Where can they find you?

Speaker 3 (56:01):
So?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Okriya, you guys can find me on I am Sara
Lee's dot com. All of my links and my social
medias will be on there.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
We are Tuck, we are though Burbae minfits on Instagram,
on Facebook and Twitter bracas. That comes into everything that
we do. I'm r A W S T A R R.
People start smelling my name correctly, by the way. It's
annoying when I see my name is spelled R A
W space S T A R or with one r.
My name is one word two are at the very end.

(56:35):
It's annoying. I've been using this name for like thirty
years next year twenty nine years. It's been the set
of the same way. So I'm trying to remix my name. Anyway,
I will see, and it has been happened a lot
recently as it is botherably. Anyway, we will see you
hard next week. Be well, stay blessed, be good to
each other, I guess