August 31, 2025 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jon Pemberton, Eric Roy, Nigel Johnston, Lyn Berry and Graham " Mintie" Mead.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
It is in this time began supporters from good afternoon,
and welcome to the muster on Hakanui officially ran Frilly
Shield Country. How good does that sound? I'm and ym
You are here until two o'clock this afternoon, thanks of
Peter's genetics. Firstly, thanks to Chuck or Wilson for hosting
the show over the last couple of days towards the
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end of last week. And jeez, I reckon, I went
through internal combustion about three times. You slay that last
twenty minutes of that game. My wife probably wondered who
was this individual that she married? But how good? How
bloody good? The stacks three point thirty pm there arriving
in the cargo this afternoon. And as a result of that,
our music for today is the one and only Roaring
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Pen and the only song today on that note as well,
South and Boys High School finishing third in the national
Top four competitions. So it's fair to say it has
been a pretty good weekend for the sweet Eaters.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
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and twelve. Sword temperatures Clinton six point four, Harriet seven
point four, Northern South and six point one, Riveton eight
point three, t on Our six point four, Oneton five
point five and Woodlands six point eight. As we start
the show with John Pembleton farms at means He's fiery,
followed up by Eric Royd talking politics on Monday Nigel
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Johnson farms at Mabel Bush is in the middle of
carving tow us it's how it's all going. Lynn Berry
catches up as well from the North Island and Graham
Minty Mead of News Talk zb wayketto talking about the
big game yesterday from a Wakettow perspective. So we'll start
the show shortly with John Pemwerdin. Let's have a bit
more of a roaring pin because we can. This is
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the muster on Hakanoi. Thanks to Peters Genetics.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
In this time began support as far In this time
began support as far miles.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
John Pemberton joins us from Menzies Ferry to start the
muster thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock Foods hearing gore the
Sergeant Dan farming ground up. We talked to different farmers
from different regions around the South. John, A good afternoon,
not too bad. It sounds as you're out there in
the trenches where there hasn't been playing ball over the
last couple of days. What's the scene, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It was the same boat, mate, Just to remind a bit,
steam is normally a bag of a month, and this
is gonna be no different than just looking and looking
out for ten days. Yeah, it could be a pretty
week week. But it's been a pretty amazing, pretty amazing
bloody August got good regrowth and you know we've got
seed and we haven't paddocks. And yeah, different bit of
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a different story to last year. But maybe this little
shitty front might have true a few memories of last year.
But mate, I see this talk of Linino.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Now overseas, so.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Following Europe's dry summer, so you know this might just
be a crappy month and then and then into a
dry spell.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What described this year's August compared to last year for you?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Uh, well, it wasn't really until late August at returned
to custard last year. But yeah, this and we didn't
beat the farm up as much of the autumn either,
So this year has been slightly slower carving not the
carew has been a week behind, I reckon just because
the sun was so late coming out last year. But
we're catching up now with our short gestation. Insuminations kept
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because sort of overlapping, because it comes forward two or
three weeks. That overlaps your replacements of suppose you call
it just standergy station. So yeah, we're sort of getting
some solid, solid U between twenty forty ks coming in
a day. So yeah, we're pretty busy. We're just send
one of those weeks it breaks down and when you
throw that into a ten hour day for staff, it
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just just creates a bit more, a bit more work.
And that's carving. We got the shield mate, it's the
main thing.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, hell bloody good. I mean this is correlations back
to twenty ten, right when we got the shield in
twenty ten. We on two thousand and nine. Sorry, and
then we had those snowstorms in twenty ten. Of course
stadiumself and collapsed. I think we'd be at Auckland like
the six three and one of the darkest, most heinous nights,
or the Aucklanders wearing polyprops because they were freezing themselves solid.
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And it was just a reminder of what it was
like in September down here in the South. And hopefully,
like you say, just a short sharp reminder.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at Yeah, we're in spring, you're
going to get those spring storms, and yeah, I guess
we're a chunk of the waste through carving now, so
we're just sort of getting into routine that you'll be
people that the end laming and all that sort of
challenging stuff. And of course, with the prices being across
the board for animal proteins, you're only putting an extra
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work in the spring regardless of the weather.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's pretty much and like we say, everybody is doing
it hard in the eck of this afternoon of thoughts
are differently with you. Hopefully this has short lived though
a bit I mean like your feet covers in that
the growth would have been appreciated.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, look that covers the pansy. We've grazed off bouncing
back really well and there's been good opportunity put on
some sulfur and it's a sort of slow, slow releasing
notch and we've definitely a response to that. Last year
it felt a bit like a feel good for a
lot of people just chucking the stuff on just so
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they can sleep at night. Whereas this year you are
seeing you've certainly seen responses to those paddocks and the
grand conditions been amazing for it. So yeah, it's as
good as we could probably ask what to be fair.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And of course you've been overseas quite a bit recently
with enough for your scholarship from what you're seeing as
well when your travels, Johnny, you're probably as well commissioned
as anybody to give to give a bit of an
update to when New Zealand are in the scheme of things.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I think, Look, we do get paid at premium,
but their premium is very much linked to international prices
and we're just gonna be mindful that there will be
a correction at some point internationally on leat and milk
at some point. There always is, there always will be.
I know there's a lot of people inside the dear
industry that haven't experience making less for your milk than
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what a cost to make it good. Numbers have used
to be a six year cycle. What are we up
to be teen eleven years? It's really been, yeah, but
teen years now at fourteen fifteen was was a challenging year.
So I guess, makay, why the sun shines? You know,
we're certainly looking at replacing cow sheets and things on
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farm while at the cash flow to do it, because
there will be a time when banks will tighten up
and say they'll be next to borrowings this year. Make
it work and yeah, but you know, there's certainly a
lot of it is good. It is good being in
the industry when it's so positive. You know, it kind
of feels like Becker back in the day when all
the expansion was happening in South and it was it
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was an exciting time. And I guess we've been in
a phase of a holding pattern for probably the last
seven years, and now there's a bit more opportunity for expansion.
People are as their salves are expanding, and I think
people are seeing the opportunity to how to work within
the rules and still get the financial outcomes, but working
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with the environment to make it work, which is great
because I do think that times the sepons current government
that business and environment can't work together. But for a
good number of us that are expanding our businesses, we're
learning pretty quickly we can do based. So that's that's
pretty neat to see. And yeah, I think Southern's well
positioned to be able to manage that type of approach.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Do you think banks need to be corrected in their
thinking around rural ending.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's a bit of a double edged sword, isn't it.
So if we if we stay right, we want more
we want more exty steps to funds. We want cheaper money.
We want to be able to borrow back up to
you know, seventy percent exposure. It's all good and well,
but banks are only fear. We're the friends. And like
I've said before, when we do have a correction in
the lorry prices, which will come at some point, that's
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just farming in international markets, you know. I guess I
think back to through that twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen period
and what pressure was put on for highly exposed farms.
I guess so just gonna be careful what we wish
for is the way I sort of view it. I
think having those strong relationships and having the bank's trust
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around how you do your budgets and following through on
them is probably us as important as trying to challenge them.
And it interest rates every second month. Yeah, that's kind
of our take. We just try and find bank, a
bank we can work with and understand their business. Everyone's yeah,
there's always that pub talk about what interest rates are,
what's happening, But you know, I do see internationally we're
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actually doing very well too, which I was very surprised with.
In the UK, we're probably only half a percent or
maybe eight percent off what the British farmers are potentially
same in America and in South America they are about
place to double our interest right now. And I've always
been high. But for me when in the other time
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I travel, you know, there's been a two three four
percent difference between Europe and New Zealand. You know, when
we were getting four percent, they were demure at one,
whereas now we're at between five and six. Exposed and
they might be any between four and five. So yeah,
for whatever reason, I think he's not getting a bad
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deal for it's international exposure. Then the size of the economy.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Too good only John, I always appreciate your thoughts. All
the best to save Jeers Mate you go, John Pemberton,
Thanks for sageon Dan Stockfeed's and the southern farm around.
Up we go and catch up with Eric Croix next.
This is the muster.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
In this town.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We got support a strong miles around began the heart.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Eric Roy joins us this afternoon in our political roundup. Eric,
Good afternoon. The song is the Roaring Pen no doubt.
South and Rugby doing it self proud with that result
yesterday up in Hamilton.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Oh fantastic. I had a really good feeling about it
before it even started. You know, the couple of good
wins and strong finishes and a lot of belief in
the team, and I just thought that why Ketto would
be vulnerable. We're gonna get all backs neck, We'll deal
to these boys from down South. And I had a
really good feeling before it started, and with some of
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the best TV watching for quite a while, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
As far as the complete Stags performance. I think in
North Harbor Anyway for the first forty minutes last year
and they put forty five points on the board. That
was pretty cool. But you think back to Stag Day
in twenty twenty when they beat a Tago and reasonably
comprehensive your things considered as been the next game that
comes to mind, because let's be honest, when you're a
self and fan, you lose your sporting soul because you
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become immune to losing.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
It can be hard work at times. So we've got
we've got to beat the good times and I'm you know,
let's see what they can do against Kenabury. The last
two times I've won the Shield two oh nine and
two eleven, they beat Canabary both times and in Kennabry
won't have it all back. They'll be required at Eden
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Park on that Saturday. So I look, let's not just
give up and roll over yet. I've got a bit
of belief in this team.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Donald Trump and these terrorists imposing has been they've been
ruled to have been illegal, So not everything's going the
way for Trumpy at the moment.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Well, he's an interesting character and he's clearly got a
lot of people that are pretty switched on lawyers dredging
back and do stuff. And so they found the rule
that allowed the president I think a nineteen seventy three
rule that he could impose Harris if America was under threat,
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and the appeals court of seven to four rule that
that wasn't the case. That he's us this authority, So
it's gone back to the Supreme Court. Are now going
to have a lock on Trump's be HEAs Now what
he will be doing is his legal people will be
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dredging through all kinds of interesting stuff to see what
they can do, either to just keep the appeal going
and delaying the tactic, or to turn it over. And
if it does crunch for him, then all of the
negotiations that have taken place since he started putting in
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they all go back to gott and everybody starts again.
But I think the big question for Trump is the
mid terms are coming up next year, and because half
the Congress comes up every two years, so they don't
all go and run. Now, we talked I think last
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time about what the cost of the tariffs mean to
the individual American household forty six bucks a week at
this stage, and sooner or later, there's going to be
a bit of recognition that Trump might not be the
savior that everybody thought they were. And some of those
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provincial they're not provincial, shall we say, The more regional
states in America are going to start and realize, Hang
on a minute, I might not just get back in
the Congress again or to the House if this continues.
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So I think there's a few things to play out here.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
What's going to happen they're regarding these terriffs with Donald Trump,
but more importantly the midterms next year. If he loses
the midterms, what does this mean for Congress?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Well, well, he hasn't really worried about Congress. He's kind
of cut his own plots. See see putting a tariffs
through that he has is See what these appeals court
has ruled is that that's the responsibility of Congress, not
of the president. And the President said no, no, no,
I had the rights under the powers of emergency America
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and the threat. That's where the whole thing is. So
if the Supreme Court upholds the appeals court decision and
then he loses Congress, then I think that we've got
a new board to draw a picture of where we
go from here. It's going to be very interesting to
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now we talk about parliament here in New Zealand. Parliamentary
standards is something that you think is slipping with talk
about this a bit in the past, Eric, But unfortunately
all these different little instances seem to pop up from
the ground. And yet again the narrative seems to involve
the Green Party.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Well, there's certainly an effort on both both, on behalf
of both for Greens and the Mari Party to say
this is how we should be operating. And the first
thing is that Chloe probably hasn't read standing orders, or
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she's pretending they are out of date. I'm not sure
what that is. But she wasn't asked to withdraw and
apologize for saying that a lot of people hadn't read
the situation right. She was required to apologize for saying
that they were spinalists. And there are a lot of words.
All members are honorable members, and you're not allowed to
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call someone a liar or duplicious, or a hypocrite or spinalist.
Loads are kind of the rules. Now. The quid pro
quo of that is that you have to accept the
word of every member, and if they fall over, if
they're proven to have misled the House, the consequences are
quite dramatic. And I'll just draw your thoughts back to
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I think it was Claire Curran who said she ran
into Carol Hirschfield when she was Minister of Broadcasting and
they had a sort of accidental meeting and then found
then they found that she diaried the meeting six weeks
earlier or sometime earlier now she lost her portfolio as
a minister and subsequently lost her seat in Parliament. So
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the consequences if you do lie, if you're not honorable,
they're pretty dramatic. And in order to kind of honor that,
you've got all these rules about what you can and
can't say about other members. And all Choe had to
say was she withdrew and apologized. But she didn't do that,
And of course she wouldn't do that because every day
the media was saying, are you going to apologize? No,
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that's what I said is true, and she just had
an opportunity of repeating it outside the house.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It takes all sorts. Sarah Croix. Now, the Reserve Bank
has been in the news over the last couple of weeks,
and not for the right reasons.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
This is concerning, well, it kind of is, because they've
got an important role. Now they've got very very blunt
tools to do what they've got to do, which is
essentially to manage the economy with a particular interest in
keeping inflation below three percent. Now, what happened is we
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had the governor Adrian Or requesting a lot of money
and wanting to set some new rules and change bit
like the Maori Party in a way, and that was
kind of overall. So he left for an inverted comments
personal reason. He didn't leave for personal reasons. He left
because he'd thrown the toys out of the cot because
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he didn't get his own way. And then we had
the board offiscating it's a good word, or not responding
to official information requests about what actually happened. And so
then Nicholas said, boy, hang on a minute, mister Quigley,
I think your time is up, and if you don't volunteer,
I'm going to move you anyway. But given that their
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role is such a significant and important role, and perhaps
they had been a little bit, shall we say, just
difficult to actually assist the government with its program of
getting growth going. There's quite a bit of tension there.
And if they're going to make these going to make
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these rules about where the interest rates to mop up
and just moving a little bit more slowly than the
government intended. And they are independent, then they need to
be able to stand up to scrutiny on how they
make those decisions. Otherwise they're kind of calling the shots
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and there is no responsibility required of them to explain
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
This is ironic. I've just looked them up the Reserve
Bank of New Zealand. Welcome to the Reserve Bank of
New Zealand. We enable economic well being and prosperity for
all New Zealanders. In underneath you can click on the
careers link.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
There you go. Yeah, well, look and it is an
important role that they've got. And look, inflation is the
worst enemy that we've got. I'm old enough to remember
when under molding and got up to eighteen percent and
we couldn't sell products overseas without subsidizing their production here
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and we were just going a downward spiral. And no
one is interested when you're selling your products to say hey,
now you've got to pay a bit more. We've got
this problem of inflation. We've actually got to be competitive
and the cost at which we produce things goes alongside
the quality of what we're doing and all those other
things that build a real appeal about the products that
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we sell.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Eric Roy, always appreciate your time on the Muster. Antlers
up right, good one. Eric Roy always appreciate his time
on the Muster. As we do our next guest. We're
going to catch up with Nigel Johnson. Right, Welcome back
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to the Muster. The music today is the Roaring Pen
and no other song but the Roaring Pen by the
Swede alias of course of the Stags getting the w
and the red Frilly shield. Coincidentally, three point thirty pm
they arrived back at the Vocago Airport. If anybody is
in the position to go along there and take the
take the family and welcome a bit of history onto
self and soil. Nigel Johnson, he farms at Mabel Bush,
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joins us this afternoon. Nigel, good afternoon, he how's everything, Dane.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Yourself?
Speaker 7 (21:59):
You'll be ready.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Big Saturday is.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Coming with you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's going to be a massive games ken It be
first up, which is an ideal but look, if they
played anything like they did yesterday, the sky is on them.
It for this team. It was just a complete performance
by Southland.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
Nice to be a part of, but unfortunately farming carries
on in front of me. We're still quite busy and
then a bit aren over the weekends made it quite
tough going last few days.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, what's a situation like in Mabile bush paint a
picture for us?
Speaker 9 (22:26):
Oh, we'd had a dream run for the previous I
was going to say six weeks, but probably the previous
six months. Got lots of grass around us twenty eight
hundred cover growing more than average at twenty one a day.
We had two thirds the way through carving. So it's
been a bit slower than it was last year, which
I guess is understandable based on last mating season. We
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were ten days to get to halfway from our plane
to start a mating which normally we sit around the
seven or eight.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
And then on Saturday Saturay raining.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
So we've had twenty cell seven films of rain, but
it might as well have been two hundred. Really, it's
got that sticky underfoot.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So the last couple of days has been a bit
of a game changer as far as moisture levels.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, but I mean.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Easy to cope with with that much grass in front
of me that we just yeah, most tales on and
make sure everything's fully feed and I think there's light
at the end of the tunnel. There's some fine days
later this week, and of.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Course you're milking there on a once a day's system.
It does tell me you noise, Well, how do you
find that?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Great?
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Probably it gives us some great opportunities around people.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
So we've got.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
We've got one full timer, but there's no one on
phone before eight o'clock in the morning. And we've got
a regular milk harvest. So she actually works for a
friend of mine next door as well, so she does
three milkings a day. So everyone's getting job satispection and
enjoyment and not too stressed. And we're especially in a
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good provision at the moment because the cavalry has arrived
my door us home from Lincoln with a friend, so
we've got extra staff and everyone's having time off over
this mid semester break period, so things.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Don't crank up on the Johnstone farm until late am.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
The truck for the calves going and going away at
four days old has arrives just after eight o'clock, so
we've got to be pretty organized.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
There's no sleeping in absolutely. I mean that's part and
part and parcelll this time of.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Year though the warrony of stating at eight o'clock is
it makes it quite hard to get away to some
of these industry type events. But I was keen to
get out last week and support the Royal Support Trust brunch,
so luckily that they hang around until lunched on there,
which so we've managed to get to that down a
gorse road. Really good, well supported, great group of sponsors,
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and I must say thank you to the sponsors there.
We seem to see you at all those events we're
catering and looking after our friends and neighbors.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
It's great to be a part of it.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
Was are a good turnout, is good to be and
probably when they ran out of food, I had the
last handburger, so you could call.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
That a win.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's the thing though. I mean these events like whenever
the next one's coming out, they'll just bring them up there.
Happening again tomorrow Hotel sal Farm Source, Lomsdon this Thursday.
PG Ridings in Clifton on the ninth into next week,
then Tiana and Glenham to round it off. So yeah,
great to see it's been well supported. You want to
talk today that you're having a bit of issue issues
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around pest control, namely, possums are possums.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
We've got a native a bush block on farm, some
ten heat beers or so that gets shot what's a
reasonably regularly, But the possums must have had a mess
of breeding season that's sort of come out of the
bush and out on farm and around the yard. So
I actually contacted our local pest control contractor where we're
just on the boundary of one of the environments south
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of PCA areas where where they organized the whole catchment
of pots and control at once. So I've managed to
piggyback on that. They've come and set up base stations
here and it will have regular top ups of those
base stations. And my theory is if we're doing it
when the rest of the community is, we will end
up with a good ongoing solution.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
Just how bad is the situation where you, Nigel, Well,
I don't know because I haven't shot them, but I
do know a friend of mine thought that he'd cleaned
out his blocker native bush, which was similar to ours,
by shooting twenty possums around the outside.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
When the test controllers came through with actually trapped to
count them, they actually got two hundred possums out of
that blocker bush. So I'd suggest we're looking at something
pretty similar.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
There's some incredible numbers around pests when you think about it,
and unfortunately it's just one of those things going forward
that needs to be looked at.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I find that it's one of those things that you
tend to put it on the backbend and when you
don't see it every day. So I'm hoping by contracting
someone to come in and do it on regular basis,
effectively putt in the diary and it will get done
and not forgotten.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We'll just finish up with this night. As you're open country,
you're a supplier they acquired Maracca has just come out
this morning Open Country and a dairy sense as well,
Fontira as well for that matter. A lot of good
stuff happening in the dairy sector at the moment. It
can't be ignored.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
So an exciting time to be a dairy farmer. Yeah,
it's rewarding us in milk price on farm, which helps
make decisions about what we're going to do being sustainable
going forward. But it's really pleasing to see some sustainability
around there. Milk supply companies as well.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I am.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm a proud Open Country supplier. I've done a
fair bit of advertising for them, if you've seeing me
in the media there. But it's it's something I'm quite
proud of of how they've grown their business and then
to go and acquire these other businesses that gives least
me in good heart. The Fontira one's an interesting one.
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I'll be interested to see whether whether this lumpsome payout
gets capitalized into landrei is or whether people did used
to capitals go and buy boats and holiday.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well that's what Kylie Fuskin suggestioned on the Such Show
last week. This money it owes you nothing, go and
spend it.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Yeah, but most of us know farming and like farming.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
I think it'll be it'll be.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
It'll be kept in the rural communities a few bit
as well. It's yeah, it should be good and I
do hope that it continues to turn into milk frost
so that we can all be successful together.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Nigel Johnson, always appreciate your time on the muster. All
the best out there in the paddis this afternoon, inteed,
Nigel Johnston of Mabel Bush.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Interesting that open country for solidifying their place in the
dairy sector here in New Zealand. Before the end of
the hour, grayham Minty Mead talking from a boy Keatdow
Viewpoint about the game yesterday. Up next Linberry with straps
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barn a bear of rugby. This is the master on Hakanui.
We catch up with Lynn very next. Last time we
spoke to Lynn, she was over in Kazakhstan. She's now
back in New Zealand and I think she's up north. Lynn,
good afternoon. Where exactly are you?
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Well, I'm back in the Neki. But if I knew
that the Stags were going to lift the shield, I
would have stayed up in the Hamilton last night instead
of instead of coming back or not last night, not before.
So it was good to see the boys lift the
shield from Waketo and bring it home where it should be.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Last time we spoke to you, Lynn, you were going
into Kazakhstan on your tour of all the Stans. Everything
went well, yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
No, it was really good. Kazakhstan is probably ninety eight
percent bigger than New Zealand. It's the biggest of the
countries in Central Asia there, and it was yeah, it
was really good. I went to Almilty, which is the
second It used to be the capital, but it's the
second largest city in Kazakhstan. And it is also the
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origin of all our apples. So the apple variety started
in Kazakhstan and then it expanded around the world on
the Silk Road, and it's been breught up to the
types of apples that we've got nowadays.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
In all seriousness, is it a country that still has
a stigma because of Borat that movie back in early
two thousands.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Yea, Well, I didn't see him, and I've never seen
that movie until the other night where the people I
was staying with they put it on. Do you share
the odd person who will make comments about it, But
it's great. The people all through Central Asia were just amazing.
Even though they have nothing and are very poor and
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a lot of circumstances, they are just so nice and
and they would give you the shirts off their backs.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
So I didn't get to have a look around a
lot of Kazakhstan, but we went and saw some of
the main highlights and I got to hold one of
those third Golden eagles. It was a couple of about
three years old and it was over three kilos and
the average meal has a wingspan of two zero point
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two meters and they're used by the nomadic tribes out
in the steep lands for hunting. So I've seen videos
of them where they will pull Marco polo sheep off
the cliffs in the mountains and just drop them. But
a couple of them will pull down a big wolf
as well.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Now you're up north, you're having an issue with poland
coming out of the trees.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yes, yes, well. I was actually at a friends place
up just out of Wapawa, and it was really interesting
because it's two and a half years since Gabrielle came
through and they were unfortunately in a little corridor where
they had a weather bomb at the same time and
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they had five hundred milli of rain in nine hours
and like ten k either side of them they might
have had ninety. So their property was quite held in
places are quite steep, and it's on paper, so the
soil wolfs slip away quite easily, and they were already
saturated from a lot of rain. When Gabrielle came through.
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You didn't hear much about what happened down Natty, but
you heard a lot about the other end. And they
can still see the big scars on all their land.
When we were driving around the other day, the slip
came through the deer unit. They've got five hundred governing
stags or four fifty velveting stags, and it took about
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all the fences, through the dealing units and the boundary fences.
Solely stags got out and they never got probably thirty
of them back, all their tracks, all their water systems.
That took out lots of fences and underrunners on fences.
They've been retiring a lot of their deeper stuff, and
they've got the gorge through the middle of it that
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thove Q two, but they've been planting out it things
like diodars and pines and a lot of natives and
sept like one face it must have had about seventy
percent of the whole face had slipped away and taken
all their planting with them as well. They were saying
that probably they're still not finished tiding it up now
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and it was probably going to cost them all up
a half a million dollars to fix up all that damage.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So as far as the carbon farming situation were, you
always keep hearing about right through right place. You're up
in the north at the moment. What do you see
as far as that.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Well, the council up through the regional count they have
got this right tree, right place program running. So the
people I stayed with, they actually won an environmental water
a couple of years years ago because their dear farmers
and they have been involved heavily with a scheme and
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they've been ret sat down, they looked at their farms,
they looked at the opportunities for different areas of the farm,
and they have planted out sections of their property and
they retired it and planted it. So they do in
production forestry, but it's still large areas that have been
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planted for carbon farming, so you know, if it's just
planted for carbon. They fed their carbon credit money over
a certain period of time. But my understanding is for
either one production or carbon they have to stay in
for five life cycles. So you know that's about one
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hundred and fifty years that they'll be in pint carbon farming.
They don't have to do any silver culture. There's no
fire control required, there's no pest control required. A lot
of them are overseas investors who have no responsibility. So
if we get a fire that goes through and destroys
somebody else's plantation or somebody else's farms, and there's no
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liability to those people, because I've heard of some city
practices where they'll go and get some body in a
drunk and a bar and a Caribbean to sign the
papers to say that they are part of that or
that's responsible for that business. And then if something happens,
you've got to go try and try and NAT follow
the pick your money back or whatever. But the company
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who were originated, they have no comeback. You can't get
any money back out of them. And then and then
after one hundred and fifty years, you know it's just
putting near line down. Falling to Botson, what do you
do with it?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Certainly in Thistery than he's looked at sooner than Madlelandberry
always appreciate your time. Safe travels up north. Thank you
go this day, Lynn Berry On a Monday afternoon now
before we wrap up, we're going up to the White
Keadow to Hamilton. We're catching up with Graham Minty meads Now. Graham,
he called the game last night in gold Sport to
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give us a White Keadow perspective regarding the NPC, but
more importantly the rain freely.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Shields in this town began supports ha half miles around.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Thanks for joining us on the muster of this afternoon.
We're away up to the White Keadow, Graham Minty made.
He called the game yesterday on old Sport, the Stags
of course, bringing the log of wood home arguably in
a smash and grab. Now Minty, firstly, good afternoon, where
we're just not quite twenty four hours on from the game.
Eighteen hours or so? Has it?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Sun?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Can you what actually happened yesterday at the FMG Stadium?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
For you?
Speaker 8 (37:17):
I look it sunk and pretty quick come about ten
minutes to go. To be honest, Andy, Steve Gordy and
I talked about it before the game that the shield
changes players. You put the jersey on and they grow
a leg and you guys grew three or four legs,
to be honest, that's seen it happen a few times
where you know, the big win, they come down the
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week later and they struggled a little bit and work
and I really struggled. And by jing as your followers
put on a good show. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't quite
expecting that.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
But yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
I'm still behind the couch hiding at the moment.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Because if you look at those teams on paper, Wait, Cando,
with your four abs coming back into your equation, do
you reckon that? And did your team more than helped
or it was just a matter didn't matter who was
on the field that night.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Look, I don't know. The guys needed some rugby.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
We our podical teams, the abs they need some footy
they come back into the team. Did it disrupt the
team a little bit? And maybe did the weather conditions
that you sent from south and disrupt what.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
We've got up here in the beautiful white Head? They
were at sunny all the time.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Probably we had we had in the cargo where the
let's be honest, it was a howling gale piddling with rain.
You fellows looked at that and said, by jeez, we're home,
And yeah, I don't think who we put on the
paddic last.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Night could have made a difference or would have made
a difference.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
We got out passioned, out played and out and out
had everything actually that the guys chucked it out there.
But defense from you guys two good attack At times
both of us were pretty stoic, you know. We we
knocked each other over and tackles and then end of
the day that big barely number eight of yours burst
down the side line, brushed off about fifty nine people,
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pushed most of the crowd.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Back up into the stand and passed your half back
and he scored.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
How many people there wasn't fair, but.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
How many people meant were at the game though, because
there's not a good look when you see these big
stadiums empty for occasions like this. Or is it just
the nature of the NPC these days and we need
to accept on Sunday afternoon you're not going to draw
the crowds like once upon a time.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Well, the crowd wasn't bad.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
I know what you saw on TV.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
On the other side, they don't normally open that, so
the TV doesn't show the main stand that we were
in and everybody was way up the top. They opened
up and let everybody get right up underneath cover, so
it was just terrible.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Less shot so it was probably the worst we've had
for a while.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
So everybody head right up the top of the stands
and no one wanted to stay in.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
The weather other than kJ He got pretty wet. But
you know, there wasn't a bad crowd. I'm thinking probably
about from my best guess what they said after. I
think about six seven thousand people, eight thousand people, which
will be half of what you got down there on
the weekend when Canterbury come.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, because we've got Canterbury on Saturday afternoon. Arguably tm
K for Stagg Day was the mantra. We went by
here down the South for the opening ground of the
MPC Monte. But all indications are there the South's going
to need each neary voice on that terrace, in the stands,
around the ground and just throughout the province to take
on the mighty Cantabs this weekend. Let's be honest, nobody
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wants Kenna Read to have the shield.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
No, no, no, no, I'm with you on that one
hundred percent on that. But look, I just got a
tip my hat to the team.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
He brought up young fellows keen a couple of old
heads in there with the and done shay. They led, well,
it was just shield rugby. Look, I love it. For me,
it's shield rugby and it's great for the shield to
move around. Yeah, we had it for a week. There
was parties everywhere. You'll have it for however long you
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have it. But I guarantee you what three o'clock this
after noon, when it lands down in the cargo or airport,
all hell.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Is going to break loose because the consensus seems to
be mante that this is exactly what the Ranfrelly shield
and arguably the emptc this is a shot in the
arm that was needed.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Damn right, it is too right, it is.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
There's been more talk about the shield moving than there
is about NPC rugby and things in the last few weeks.
Speaker 10 (41:24):
And isn't that good?
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Isn't it what we want from a game of foota?
Speaker 8 (41:27):
We want that passion. Like I got a photo with
the shield last night before the game, thank goodness. But
every time it visits I try and get a photo
with it because.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
It is something for me that it's it's iconic.
Speaker 8 (41:39):
It's a piece of wood with a bit of steel
on it and yeah, like Steve Gordon said to it, said,
there's something about it. He said, there's something about.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
That piece of wood. He said.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
When you get your hands on it, he said, you
treasure it because you never know how long you got
it for.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Because you think of the team from yesteryear, you think
of the Kennedy team we wanted in eighty two held
it to l eighty five, then Lorkland held it for
the rest of the decade until nineteen ninety three, and
it's just a you're around it and the people that
have held that log of wood and has gone through
generations of New Zealand rugby. So it's great to see
that the appeal is still there.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Oh look for me, it's it is and it's youngsters
as well.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Now we're seeing a little bit of the kids now
understanding what ran Philly Shields. They're saying, oh hey, this
is pretty different. You know, everyone's got a story with
the shield. David Fox let me look after it for
two days because there was no one around to look
after it. It slept in my bed.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
My wife was waying OZI.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
I was scared of losing the damn thing, so I
put it in a bed it slept with me as
I was too scared to lose the damn thing. Every
call I went to, every day, I carried it with
me because I couldn't leave it in macroald Roin. And
that's stupid because they're never going to get stolen, but
that's how scared I was losing it.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Just finally mintee the state of rugby up in the Whycadow.
What's it looking like kids?
Speaker 8 (42:59):
Why huge? We've got a little group running now, power
Farming Cup they call it where because we lost the
gwyin shield roller mills, all those sorts of things, because
if some of the regions pulled outsident want the competition.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
But these guys have got teams going.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
They're getting thousand kids turning up every Sunday to play
what you'd call rep rugby where teams are put together.
So junior rugby's really good. Secondary school rugby's okay. We
come out of secondary school and we die and then
we somehow some of the kids turned back up and
we've got a bit of senior footy going on.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
So we've got a real.
Speaker 8 (43:37):
Gap between leaving school and becoming a young adult. At
about twenty one twenty two, trying hard to bring it back.
There's a lot of cooperation going on. Under eighty fives
had a house siet a few years ago. It's flattened
out here. We're battling finach lee and for players, Basketball's
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taking so many players at the moment because the kids
are loving that. It's something to run into. Rugby will
always be there, But I don't know any you and
I used to pull the boots on for a pair
of shorts and a beer afterwards.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Yeah, a lot of them got the hens out and
there to say, well, I won't put my.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
Shorts on unless stuff free, and I've got a pair
of this with them. But yeah, different reasons, different seasons.
I played footy because I love the buddy thinking always will,
always will.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
But yeah, a bit different now. But I could say
too much sometimes it will get me the trouble mate.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
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Speaker 8 (44:52):
You've got a few of those out of me last
night too, didn't you.
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It was a few of those.
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end of last week. And jeez, I reckon, I went
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Johnson farms at Mabel Bush is in the middle of
carving tow us it's how it's all going. Lynn Berry
catches up as well from the North Island and Graham
Minty Mead of News Talk zb wayketto talking about the
big game yesterday from a Wakettow perspective. So we'll start
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Speaker 1 (02:41):
John Pemberton joins us from Menzies Ferry to start the
muster thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock Foods hearing gore the
Sergeant Dan farming ground up. We talked to different farmers
from different regions around the South. John, A good afternoon,
not too bad. It sounds as you're out there in
the trenches where there hasn't been playing ball over the
last couple of days. What's the scene, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It was the same boat, mate, Just to remind a bit,
steam is normally a bag of a month, and this
is gonna be no different than just looking and looking
out for ten days. Yeah, it could be a pretty
week week. But it's been a pretty amazing, pretty amazing
bloody August got good regrowth and you know we've got
seed and we haven't paddocks. And yeah, different bit of
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a different story to last year. But maybe this little
shitty front might have true a few memories of last year.
But mate, I see this talk of Linino.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Now overseas, so.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Following Europe's dry summer, so you know this might just
be a crappy month and then and then into a
dry spell.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What described this year's August compared to last year for you?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Uh, well, it wasn't really until late August at returned
to custard last year. But yeah, this and we didn't
beat the farm up as much of the autumn either,
So this year has been slightly slower carving not the
carew has been a week behind, I reckon just because
the sun was so late coming out last year. But
we're catching up now with our short gestation. Insuminations kept
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because sort of overlapping, because it comes forward two or
three weeks. That overlaps your replacements of suppose you call
it just standergy station. So yeah, we're sort of getting
some solid, solid U between twenty forty ks coming in
a day. So yeah, we're pretty busy. We're just send
one of those weeks it breaks down and when you
throw that into a ten hour day for staff, it
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just just creates a bit more, a bit more work.
And that's carving. We got the shield mate, it's the
main thing.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, hell bloody good. I mean this is correlations back
to twenty ten, right when we got the shield in
twenty ten. We on two thousand and nine. Sorry, and
then we had those snowstorms in twenty ten. Of course
stadiumself and collapsed. I think we'd be at Auckland like
the six three and one of the darkest, most heinous nights,
or the Aucklanders wearing polyprops because they were freezing themselves solid.
(05:04):
And it was just a reminder of what it was
like in September down here in the South. And hopefully,
like you say, just a short sharp reminder.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at Yeah, we're in spring, you're
going to get those spring storms, and yeah, I guess
we're a chunk of the waste through carving now, so
we're just sort of getting into routine that you'll be
people that the end laming and all that sort of
challenging stuff. And of course, with the prices being across
the board for animal proteins, you're only putting an extra
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work in the spring regardless of the weather.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's pretty much and like we say, everybody is doing
it hard in the eck of this afternoon of thoughts
are differently with you. Hopefully this has short lived though
a bit I mean like your feet covers in that
the growth would have been appreciated.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, look that covers the pansy. We've grazed off bouncing
back really well and there's been good opportunity put on
some sulfur and it's a sort of slow, slow releasing
notch and we've definitely a response to that. Last year
it felt a bit like a feel good for a
lot of people just chucking the stuff on just so
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they can sleep at night. Whereas this year you are
seeing you've certainly seen responses to those paddocks and the
grand conditions been amazing for it. So yeah, it's as
good as we could probably ask what to be fair.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And of course you've been overseas quite a bit recently
with enough for your scholarship from what you're seeing as
well when your travels, Johnny, you're probably as well commissioned
as anybody to give to give a bit of an
update to when New Zealand are in the scheme of things.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I think, Look, we do get paid at premium,
but their premium is very much linked to international prices
and we're just gonna be mindful that there will be
a correction at some point internationally on leat and milk
at some point. There always is, there always will be.
I know there's a lot of people inside the dear
industry that haven't experience making less for your milk than
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what a cost to make it good. Numbers have used
to be a six year cycle. What are we up
to be teen eleven years? It's really been, yeah, but
teen years now at fourteen fifteen was was a challenging year.
So I guess, makay, why the sun shines? You know,
we're certainly looking at replacing cow sheets and things on
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farm while at the cash flow to do it, because
there will be a time when banks will tighten up
and say they'll be next to borrowings this year. Make
it work and yeah, but you know, there's certainly a
lot of it is good. It is good being in
the industry when it's so positive. You know, it kind
of feels like Becker back in the day when all
the expansion was happening in South and it was it
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was an exciting time. And I guess we've been in
a phase of a holding pattern for probably the last
seven years, and now there's a bit more opportunity for expansion.
People are as their salves are expanding, and I think
people are seeing the opportunity to how to work within
the rules and still get the financial outcomes, but working
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with the environment to make it work, which is great
because I do think that times the sepons current government
that business and environment can't work together. But for a
good number of us that are expanding our businesses, we're
learning pretty quickly we can do based. So that's that's
pretty neat to see. And yeah, I think Southern's well
positioned to be able to manage that type of approach.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Do you think banks need to be corrected in their
thinking around rural ending.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's a bit of a double edged sword, isn't it.
So if we if we stay right, we want more
we want more exty steps to funds. We want cheaper money.
We want to be able to borrow back up to
you know, seventy percent exposure. It's all good and well,
but banks are only fear. We're the friends. And like
I've said before, when we do have a correction in
the lorry prices, which will come at some point, that's
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just farming in international markets, you know. I guess I
think back to through that twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen period
and what pressure was put on for highly exposed farms.
I guess so just gonna be careful what we wish
for is the way I sort of view it. I
think having those strong relationships and having the bank's trust
(09:17):
around how you do your budgets and following through on
them is probably us as important as trying to challenge them.
And it interest rates every second month. Yeah, that's kind
of our take. We just try and find bank, a
bank we can work with and understand their business. Everyone's yeah,
there's always that pub talk about what interest rates are,
what's happening, But you know, I do see internationally we're
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actually doing very well too, which I was very surprised with.
In the UK, we're probably only half a percent or
maybe eight percent off what the British farmers are potentially
same in America and in South America they are about
place to double our interest right now. And I've always
been high. But for me when in the other time
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I travel, you know, there's been a two three four
percent difference between Europe and New Zealand. You know, when
we were getting four percent, they were demure at one,
whereas now we're at between five and six. Exposed and
they might be any between four and five. So yeah,
for whatever reason, I think he's not getting a bad
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deal for it's international exposure. Then the size of the economy.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Too good only John, I always appreciate your thoughts. All
the best to save Jeers Mate you go, John Pemberton,
Thanks for sageon Dan Stockfeed's and the southern farm around.
Up we go and catch up with Eric Croix next.
This is the muster.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
In this town.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We got support a strong miles around began the heart.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Eric Roy joins us this afternoon in our political roundup. Eric,
Good afternoon. The song is the Roaring Pen no doubt.
South and Rugby doing it self proud with that result
yesterday up in Hamilton.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Oh fantastic. I had a really good feeling about it
before it even started. You know, the couple of good
wins and strong finishes and a lot of belief in
the team, and I just thought that why Ketto would
be vulnerable. We're gonna get all backs neck, We'll deal
to these boys from down South. And I had a
really good feeling before it started, and with some of
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the best TV watching for quite a while, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
As far as the complete Stags performance. I think in
North Harbor Anyway for the first forty minutes last year
and they put forty five points on the board. That
was pretty cool. But you think back to Stag Day
in twenty twenty when they beat a Tago and reasonably
comprehensive your things considered as been the next game that
comes to mind, because let's be honest, when you're a
self and fan, you lose your sporting soul because you
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become immune to losing.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
It can be hard work at times. So we've got
we've got to beat the good times and I'm you know,
let's see what they can do against Kenabury. The last
two times I've won the Shield two oh nine and
two eleven, they beat Canabary both times and in Kennabry
won't have it all back. They'll be required at Eden
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Park on that Saturday. So I look, let's not just
give up and roll over yet. I've got a bit
of belief in this team.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Donald Trump and these terrorists imposing has been they've been
ruled to have been illegal, So not everything's going the
way for Trumpy at the moment.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Well, he's an interesting character and he's clearly got a
lot of people that are pretty switched on lawyers dredging
back and do stuff. And so they found the rule
that allowed the president I think a nineteen seventy three
rule that he could impose Harris if America was under threat,
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and the appeals court of seven to four rule that
that wasn't the case. That he's us this authority, So
it's gone back to the Supreme Court. Are now going
to have a lock on Trump's be HEAs Now what
he will be doing is his legal people will be
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dredging through all kinds of interesting stuff to see what
they can do, either to just keep the appeal going
and delaying the tactic, or to turn it over. And
if it does crunch for him, then all of the
negotiations that have taken place since he started putting in
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they all go back to gott and everybody starts again.
But I think the big question for Trump is the
mid terms are coming up next year, and because half
the Congress comes up every two years, so they don't
all go and run. Now, we talked I think last
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time about what the cost of the tariffs mean to
the individual American household forty six bucks a week at
this stage, and sooner or later, there's going to be
a bit of recognition that Trump might not be the
savior that everybody thought they were. And some of those
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provincial they're not provincial, shall we say, The more regional
states in America are going to start and realize, Hang
on a minute, I might not just get back in
the Congress again or to the House if this continues.
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So I think there's a few things to play out here.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
What's going to happen they're regarding these terriffs with Donald Trump,
but more importantly the midterms next year. If he loses
the midterms, what does this mean for Congress?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Well, well, he hasn't really worried about Congress. He's kind
of cut his own plots. See see putting a tariffs
through that he has is See what these appeals court
has ruled is that that's the responsibility of Congress, not
of the president. And the President said no, no, no,
I had the rights under the powers of emergency America
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and the threat. That's where the whole thing is. So
if the Supreme Court upholds the appeals court decision and
then he loses Congress, then I think that we've got
a new board to draw a picture of where we
go from here. It's going to be very interesting to
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now we talk about parliament here in New Zealand. Parliamentary
standards is something that you think is slipping with talk
about this a bit in the past, Eric, But unfortunately
all these different little instances seem to pop up from
the ground. And yet again the narrative seems to involve
the Green Party.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Well, there's certainly an effort on both both, on behalf
of both for Greens and the Mari Party to say
this is how we should be operating. And the first
thing is that Chloe probably hasn't read standing orders, or
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she's pretending they are out of date. I'm not sure
what that is. But she wasn't asked to withdraw and
apologize for saying that a lot of people hadn't read
the situation right. She was required to apologize for saying
that they were spinalists. And there are a lot of words.
All members are honorable members, and you're not allowed to
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call someone a liar or duplicious, or a hypocrite or spinalist.
Loads are kind of the rules. Now. The quid pro
quo of that is that you have to accept the
word of every member, and if they fall over, if
they're proven to have misled the House, the consequences are
quite dramatic. And I'll just draw your thoughts back to
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I think it was Claire Curran who said she ran
into Carol Hirschfield when she was Minister of Broadcasting and
they had a sort of accidental meeting and then found
then they found that she diaried the meeting six weeks
earlier or sometime earlier now she lost her portfolio as
a minister and subsequently lost her seat in Parliament. So
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the consequences if you do lie, if you're not honorable,
they're pretty dramatic. And in order to kind of honor that,
you've got all these rules about what you can and
can't say about other members. And all Choe had to
say was she withdrew and apologized. But she didn't do that,
And of course she wouldn't do that because every day
the media was saying, are you going to apologize? No,
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that's what I said is true, and she just had
an opportunity of repeating it outside the house.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It takes all sorts. Sarah Croix. Now, the Reserve Bank
has been in the news over the last couple of weeks,
and not for the right reasons.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
This is concerning, well, it kind of is, because they've
got an important role. Now they've got very very blunt
tools to do what they've got to do, which is
essentially to manage the economy with a particular interest in
keeping inflation below three percent. Now, what happened is we
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had the governor Adrian Or requesting a lot of money
and wanting to set some new rules and change bit
like the Maori Party in a way, and that was
kind of overall. So he left for an inverted comments
personal reason. He didn't leave for personal reasons. He left
because he'd thrown the toys out of the cot because
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he didn't get his own way. And then we had
the board offiscating it's a good word, or not responding
to official information requests about what actually happened. And so
then Nicholas said, boy, hang on a minute, mister Quigley,
I think your time is up, and if you don't volunteer,
I'm going to move you anyway. But given that their
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role is such a significant and important role, and perhaps
they had been a little bit, shall we say, just
difficult to actually assist the government with its program of
getting growth going. There's quite a bit of tension there.
And if they're going to make these going to make
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these rules about where the interest rates to mop up
and just moving a little bit more slowly than the
government intended. And they are independent, then they need to
be able to stand up to scrutiny on how they
make those decisions. Otherwise they're kind of calling the shots
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and there is no responsibility required of them to explain
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
This is ironic. I've just looked them up the Reserve
Bank of New Zealand. Welcome to the Reserve Bank of
New Zealand. We enable economic well being and prosperity for
all New Zealanders. In underneath you can click on the
careers link.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
There you go. Yeah, well, look and it is an
important role that they've got. And look, inflation is the
worst enemy that we've got. I'm old enough to remember
when under molding and got up to eighteen percent and
we couldn't sell products overseas without subsidizing their production here
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and we were just going a downward spiral. And no
one is interested when you're selling your products to say hey,
now you've got to pay a bit more. We've got
this problem of inflation. We've actually got to be competitive
and the cost at which we produce things goes alongside
the quality of what we're doing and all those other
things that build a real appeal about the products that
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we sell.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Eric Roy, always appreciate your time on the Muster. Antlers
up right, good one. Eric Roy always appreciate his time
on the Muster. As we do our next guest. We're
going to catch up with Nigel Johnson. Right, Welcome back
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to the Muster. The music today is the Roaring Pen
and no other song but the Roaring Pen by the
Swede alias of course of the Stags getting the w
and the red Frilly shield. Coincidentally, three point thirty pm
they arrived back at the Vocago Airport. If anybody is
in the position to go along there and take the
take the family and welcome a bit of history onto
self and soil. Nigel Johnson, he farms at Mabel Bush,
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joins us this afternoon. Nigel, good afternoon, he how's everything, Dane.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Yourself?
Speaker 7 (21:59):
You'll be ready.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Big Saturday is.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Coming with you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's going to be a massive games ken It be
first up, which is an ideal but look, if they
played anything like they did yesterday, the sky is on them.
It for this team. It was just a complete performance
by Southland.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
Nice to be a part of, but unfortunately farming carries
on in front of me. We're still quite busy and
then a bit aren over the weekends made it quite
tough going last few days.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, what's a situation like in Mabile bush paint a
picture for us?
Speaker 9 (22:26):
Oh, we'd had a dream run for the previous I
was going to say six weeks, but probably the previous
six months. Got lots of grass around us twenty eight
hundred cover growing more than average at twenty one a day.
We had two thirds the way through carving. So it's
been a bit slower than it was last year, which
I guess is understandable based on last mating season. We
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were ten days to get to halfway from our plane
to start a mating which normally we sit around the
seven or eight.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
And then on Saturday Saturay raining.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
So we've had twenty cell seven films of rain, but
it might as well have been two hundred. Really, it's
got that sticky underfoot.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So the last couple of days has been a bit
of a game changer as far as moisture levels.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, but I mean.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Easy to cope with with that much grass in front
of me that we just yeah, most tales on and
make sure everything's fully feed and I think there's light
at the end of the tunnel. There's some fine days
later this week, and of.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Course you're milking there on a once a day's system.
It does tell me you noise, Well, how do you
find that?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Great?
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Probably it gives us some great opportunities around people.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
So we've got.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
We've got one full timer, but there's no one on
phone before eight o'clock in the morning. And we've got
a regular milk harvest. So she actually works for a
friend of mine next door as well, so she does
three milkings a day. So everyone's getting job satispection and
enjoyment and not too stressed. And we're especially in a
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good provision at the moment because the cavalry has arrived
my door us home from Lincoln with a friend, so
we've got extra staff and everyone's having time off over
this mid semester break period, so things.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Don't crank up on the Johnstone farm until late am.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
The truck for the calves going and going away at
four days old has arrives just after eight o'clock, so
we've got to be pretty organized.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
There's no sleeping in absolutely. I mean that's part and
part and parcelll this time of.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Year though the warrony of stating at eight o'clock is
it makes it quite hard to get away to some
of these industry type events. But I was keen to
get out last week and support the Royal Support Trust brunch,
so luckily that they hang around until lunched on there,
which so we've managed to get to that down a
gorse road. Really good, well supported, great group of sponsors,
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and I must say thank you to the sponsors there.
We seem to see you at all those events we're
catering and looking after our friends and neighbors.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
It's great to be a part of it.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
Was are a good turnout, is good to be and
probably when they ran out of food, I had the
last handburger, so you could call.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
That a win.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's the thing though. I mean these events like whenever
the next one's coming out, they'll just bring them up there.
Happening again tomorrow Hotel sal Farm Source, Lomsdon this Thursday.
PG Ridings in Clifton on the ninth into next week,
then Tiana and Glenham to round it off. So yeah,
great to see it's been well supported. You want to
talk today that you're having a bit of issue issues
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around pest control, namely, possums are possums.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
We've got a native a bush block on farm, some
ten heat beers or so that gets shot what's a
reasonably regularly, But the possums must have had a mess
of breeding season that's sort of come out of the
bush and out on farm and around the yard. So
I actually contacted our local pest control contractor where we're
just on the boundary of one of the environments south
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of PCA areas where where they organized the whole catchment
of pots and control at once. So I've managed to
piggyback on that. They've come and set up base stations
here and it will have regular top ups of those
base stations. And my theory is if we're doing it
when the rest of the community is, we will end
up with a good ongoing solution.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
Just how bad is the situation where you, Nigel, Well,
I don't know because I haven't shot them, but I
do know a friend of mine thought that he'd cleaned
out his blocker native bush, which was similar to ours,
by shooting twenty possums around the outside.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
When the test controllers came through with actually trapped to
count them, they actually got two hundred possums out of
that blocker bush. So I'd suggest we're looking at something
pretty similar.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
There's some incredible numbers around pests when you think about it,
and unfortunately it's just one of those things going forward
that needs to be looked at.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I find that it's one of those things that you
tend to put it on the backbend and when you
don't see it every day. So I'm hoping by contracting
someone to come in and do it on regular basis,
effectively putt in the diary and it will get done
and not forgotten.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We'll just finish up with this night. As you're open country,
you're a supplier they acquired Maracca has just come out
this morning Open Country and a dairy sense as well,
Fontira as well for that matter. A lot of good
stuff happening in the dairy sector at the moment. It
can't be ignored.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
So an exciting time to be a dairy farmer. Yeah,
it's rewarding us in milk price on farm, which helps
make decisions about what we're going to do being sustainable
going forward. But it's really pleasing to see some sustainability
around there. Milk supply companies as well.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I am.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm a proud Open Country supplier. I've done a
fair bit of advertising for them, if you've seeing me
in the media there. But it's it's something I'm quite
proud of of how they've grown their business and then
to go and acquire these other businesses that gives least
me in good heart. The Fontira one's an interesting one.
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I'll be interested to see whether whether this lumpsome payout
gets capitalized into landrei is or whether people did used
to capitals go and buy boats and holiday.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well that's what Kylie Fuskin suggestioned on the Such Show
last week. This money it owes you nothing, go and
spend it.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Yeah, but most of us know farming and like farming.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
I think it'll be it'll be.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
It'll be kept in the rural communities a few bit
as well. It's yeah, it should be good and I
do hope that it continues to turn into milk frost
so that we can all be successful together.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Nigel Johnson, always appreciate your time on the muster. All
the best out there in the paddis this afternoon, inteed,
Nigel Johnston of Mabel Bush.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Interesting that open country for solidifying their place in the
dairy sector here in New Zealand. Before the end of
the hour, grayham Minty Mead talking from a boy Keatdow
Viewpoint about the game yesterday. Up next Linberry with straps
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barn a bear of rugby. This is the master on Hakanui.
We catch up with Lynn very next. Last time we
spoke to Lynn, she was over in Kazakhstan. She's now
back in New Zealand and I think she's up north. Lynn,
good afternoon. Where exactly are you?
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Well, I'm back in the Neki. But if I knew
that the Stags were going to lift the shield, I
would have stayed up in the Hamilton last night instead
of instead of coming back or not last night, not before.
So it was good to see the boys lift the
shield from Waketo and bring it home where it should be.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Last time we spoke to you, Lynn, you were going
into Kazakhstan on your tour of all the Stans. Everything
went well, yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
No, it was really good. Kazakhstan is probably ninety eight
percent bigger than New Zealand. It's the biggest of the
countries in Central Asia there, and it was yeah, it
was really good. I went to Almilty, which is the
second It used to be the capital, but it's the
second largest city in Kazakhstan. And it is also the
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origin of all our apples. So the apple variety started
in Kazakhstan and then it expanded around the world on
the Silk Road, and it's been breught up to the
types of apples that we've got nowadays.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
In all seriousness, is it a country that still has
a stigma because of Borat that movie back in early
two thousands.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Yea, Well, I didn't see him, and I've never seen
that movie until the other night where the people I
was staying with they put it on. Do you share
the odd person who will make comments about it, But
it's great. The people all through Central Asia were just amazing.
Even though they have nothing and are very poor and
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a lot of circumstances, they are just so nice and
and they would give you the shirts off their backs.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
So I didn't get to have a look around a
lot of Kazakhstan, but we went and saw some of
the main highlights and I got to hold one of
those third Golden eagles. It was a couple of about
three years old and it was over three kilos and
the average meal has a wingspan of two zero point
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two meters and they're used by the nomadic tribes out
in the steep lands for hunting. So I've seen videos
of them where they will pull Marco polo sheep off
the cliffs in the mountains and just drop them. But
a couple of them will pull down a big wolf
as well.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Now you're up north, you're having an issue with poland
coming out of the trees.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yes, yes, well. I was actually at a friends place
up just out of Wapawa, and it was really interesting
because it's two and a half years since Gabrielle came
through and they were unfortunately in a little corridor where
they had a weather bomb at the same time and
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they had five hundred milli of rain in nine hours
and like ten k either side of them they might
have had ninety. So their property was quite held in
places are quite steep, and it's on paper, so the
soil wolfs slip away quite easily, and they were already
saturated from a lot of rain. When Gabrielle came through.
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You didn't hear much about what happened down Natty, but
you heard a lot about the other end. And they
can still see the big scars on all their land.
When we were driving around the other day, the slip
came through the deer unit. They've got five hundred governing
stags or four fifty velveting stags, and it took about
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all the fences, through the dealing units and the boundary fences.
Solely stags got out and they never got probably thirty
of them back, all their tracks, all their water systems.
That took out lots of fences and underrunners on fences.
They've been retiring a lot of their deeper stuff, and
they've got the gorge through the middle of it that
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thove Q two, but they've been planting out it things
like diodars and pines and a lot of natives and
sept like one face it must have had about seventy
percent of the whole face had slipped away and taken
all their planting with them as well. They were saying
that probably they're still not finished tiding it up now
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and it was probably going to cost them all up
a half a million dollars to fix up all that damage.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So as far as the carbon farming situation were, you
always keep hearing about right through right place. You're up
in the north at the moment. What do you see
as far as that.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Well, the council up through the regional count they have
got this right tree, right place program running. So the
people I stayed with, they actually won an environmental water
a couple of years years ago because their dear farmers
and they have been involved heavily with a scheme and
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they've been ret sat down, they looked at their farms,
they looked at the opportunities for different areas of the farm,
and they have planted out sections of their property and
they retired it and planted it. So they do in
production forestry, but it's still large areas that have been
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planted for carbon farming, so you know, if it's just
planted for carbon. They fed their carbon credit money over
a certain period of time. But my understanding is for
either one production or carbon they have to stay in
for five life cycles. So you know that's about one
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hundred and fifty years that they'll be in pint carbon farming.
They don't have to do any silver culture. There's no
fire control required, there's no pest control required. A lot
of them are overseas investors who have no responsibility. So
if we get a fire that goes through and destroys
somebody else's plantation or somebody else's farms, and there's no
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liability to those people, because I've heard of some city
practices where they'll go and get some body in a
drunk and a bar and a Caribbean to sign the
papers to say that they are part of that or
that's responsible for that business. And then if something happens,
you've got to go try and try and NAT follow
the pick your money back or whatever. But the company
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who were originated, they have no comeback. You can't get
any money back out of them. And then and then
after one hundred and fifty years, you know it's just
putting near line down. Falling to Botson, what do you
do with it?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Certainly in Thistery than he's looked at sooner than Madlelandberry
always appreciate your time. Safe travels up north. Thank you
go this day, Lynn Berry On a Monday afternoon now
before we wrap up, we're going up to the White
Keadow to Hamilton. We're catching up with Graham Minty meads Now. Graham,
he called the game last night in gold Sport to
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give us a White Keadow perspective regarding the NPC, but
more importantly the rain freely.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Shields in this town began supports ha half miles around.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Thanks for joining us on the muster of this afternoon.
We're away up to the White Keadow, Graham Minty made.
He called the game yesterday on old Sport, the Stags
of course, bringing the log of wood home arguably in
a smash and grab. Now Minty, firstly, good afternoon, where
we're just not quite twenty four hours on from the game.
Eighteen hours or so? Has it?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Sun?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Can you what actually happened yesterday at the FMG Stadium?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
For you?
Speaker 8 (37:17):
I look it sunk and pretty quick come about ten
minutes to go. To be honest, Andy, Steve Gordy and
I talked about it before the game that the shield
changes players. You put the jersey on and they grow
a leg and you guys grew three or four legs,
to be honest, that's seen it happen a few times
where you know, the big win, they come down the
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week later and they struggled a little bit and work
and I really struggled. And by jing as your followers
put on a good show. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't quite
expecting that.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
But yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
I'm still behind the couch hiding at the moment.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Because if you look at those teams on paper, Wait, Cando,
with your four abs coming back into your equation, do
you reckon that? And did your team more than helped
or it was just a matter didn't matter who was
on the field that night.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Look, I don't know. The guys needed some rugby.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
We our podical teams, the abs they need some footy
they come back into the team. Did it disrupt the
team a little bit? And maybe did the weather conditions
that you sent from south and disrupt what.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
We've got up here in the beautiful white Head? They
were at sunny all the time.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Probably we had we had in the cargo where the
let's be honest, it was a howling gale piddling with rain.
You fellows looked at that and said, by jeez, we're home,
And yeah, I don't think who we put on the
paddic last.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Night could have made a difference or would have made
a difference.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
We got out passioned, out played and out and out
had everything actually that the guys chucked it out there.
But defense from you guys two good attack At times
both of us were pretty stoic, you know. We we
knocked each other over and tackles and then end of
the day that big barely number eight of yours burst
down the side line, brushed off about fifty nine people,
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pushed most of the crowd.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Back up into the stand and passed your half back
and he scored.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
How many people there wasn't fair, but.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
How many people meant were at the game though, because
there's not a good look when you see these big
stadiums empty for occasions like this. Or is it just
the nature of the NPC these days and we need
to accept on Sunday afternoon you're not going to draw
the crowds like once upon a time.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Well, the crowd wasn't bad.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
I know what you saw on TV.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
On the other side, they don't normally open that, so
the TV doesn't show the main stand that we were
in and everybody was way up the top. They opened
up and let everybody get right up underneath cover, so
it was just terrible.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Less shot so it was probably the worst we've had
for a while.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
So everybody head right up the top of the stands
and no one wanted to stay in.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
The weather other than kJ He got pretty wet. But
you know, there wasn't a bad crowd. I'm thinking probably
about from my best guess what they said after. I
think about six seven thousand people, eight thousand people, which
will be half of what you got down there on
the weekend when Canterbury come.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, because we've got Canterbury on Saturday afternoon. Arguably tm
K for Stagg Day was the mantra. We went by
here down the South for the opening ground of the
MPC Monte. But all indications are there the South's going
to need each neary voice on that terrace, in the stands,
around the ground and just throughout the province to take
on the mighty Cantabs this weekend. Let's be honest, nobody
(40:26):
wants Kenna Read to have the shield.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
No, no, no, no, I'm with you on that one
hundred percent on that. But look, I just got a
tip my hat to the team.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
He brought up young fellows keen a couple of old
heads in there with the and done shay. They led, well,
it was just shield rugby. Look, I love it. For me,
it's shield rugby and it's great for the shield to
move around. Yeah, we had it for a week. There
was parties everywhere. You'll have it for however long you
(40:56):
have it. But I guarantee you what three o'clock this
after noon, when it lands down in the cargo or airport,
all hell.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Is going to break loose because the consensus seems to
be mante that this is exactly what the Ranfrelly shield
and arguably the emptc this is a shot in the
arm that was needed.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Damn right, it is too right, it is.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
There's been more talk about the shield moving than there
is about NPC rugby and things in the last few weeks.
Speaker 10 (41:24):
And isn't that good?
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Isn't it what we want from a game of foota?
Speaker 8 (41:27):
We want that passion. Like I got a photo with
the shield last night before the game, thank goodness. But
every time it visits I try and get a photo
with it because.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
It is something for me that it's it's iconic.
Speaker 8 (41:39):
It's a piece of wood with a bit of steel
on it and yeah, like Steve Gordon said to it, said,
there's something about it. He said, there's something about.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
That piece of wood. He said.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
When you get your hands on it, he said, you
treasure it because you never know how long you got
it for.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Because you think of the team from yesteryear, you think
of the Kennedy team we wanted in eighty two held
it to l eighty five, then Lorkland held it for
the rest of the decade until nineteen ninety three, and
it's just a you're around it and the people that
have held that log of wood and has gone through
generations of New Zealand rugby. So it's great to see
that the appeal is still there.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Oh look for me, it's it is and it's youngsters
as well.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Now we're seeing a little bit of the kids now
understanding what ran Philly Shields. They're saying, oh hey, this
is pretty different. You know, everyone's got a story with
the shield. David Fox let me look after it for
two days because there was no one around to look
after it. It slept in my bed.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
My wife was waying OZI.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
I was scared of losing the damn thing, so I
put it in a bed it slept with me as
I was too scared to lose the damn thing. Every
call I went to, every day, I carried it with
me because I couldn't leave it in macroald Roin. And
that's stupid because they're never going to get stolen, but
that's how scared I was losing it.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Just finally mintee the state of rugby up in the Whycadow.
What's it looking like kids?
Speaker 8 (42:59):
Why huge? We've got a little group running now, power
Farming Cup they call it where because we lost the
gwyin shield roller mills, all those sorts of things, because
if some of the regions pulled outsident want the competition.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
But these guys have got teams going.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
They're getting thousand kids turning up every Sunday to play
what you'd call rep rugby where teams are put together.
So junior rugby's really good. Secondary school rugby's okay. We
come out of secondary school and we die and then
we somehow some of the kids turned back up and
we've got a bit of senior footy going on.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
So we've got a real.
Speaker 8 (43:37):
Gap between leaving school and becoming a young adult. At
about twenty one twenty two, trying hard to bring it back.
There's a lot of cooperation going on. Under eighty fives
had a house siet a few years ago. It's flattened
out here. We're battling finach lee and for players, Basketball's
(43:57):
taking so many players at the moment because the kids
are loving that. It's something to run into. Rugby will
always be there, But I don't know any you and
I used to pull the boots on for a pair
of shorts and a beer afterwards.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Yeah, a lot of them got the hens out and
there to say, well, I won't put my.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
Shorts on unless stuff free, and I've got a pair
of this with them. But yeah, different reasons, different seasons.
I played footy because I love the buddy thinking always will,
always will.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
But yeah, a bit different now. But I could say
too much sometimes it will get me the trouble mate.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Hey, get on your mentor, Thanks very much for your time,
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Get on your mentor and Antler's up and was up mate.
Speaker 8 (44:52):
You've got a few of those out of me last
night too, didn't you.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
It was a few of those.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Ye love your work mate.
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