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November 19, 2025 44 mins

Andy Muir talks to Nigel Woodhead, Matt McRae, Tony Groves, Courtenay Nimmo, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hokinnie. My
name is Andy Muer. Of course a show comes to
your curtacy of Peter's genetics. Welcome along to another beautiful
afternoon down here in the Deep South. Goodness me, there's
two days in a row going for the hat trick.
Tomorrow we'll look at the forecast. Surely they to find
out what's happening in that department. The tunes for this

(00:26):
afternoon it is Kiss. Now. The reason it chose Kiss
is because I actually see a video of them on
social media this morning. Their first appearance in a song
without wearing met makeup, Gene Simmons and co. Certainly something
to behold. So nonetheless, this song here I was made
for loving you.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Five day forecasts brought to you by twin Farm, teff
Rock and Subtext.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
The proof is in the progeny Teffron dot co dot NZRU.
This afternoon only, we're breezing ll westerlyes and a high
of twenty three. Friday rain of light, sol westerlies five
and thirteen. Saturday partly cloudy, were breezy westerly six and seventeen,
and on a Sunday with afternoon showers and westerlies six

(01:14):
and fifteen, and Monday partly cloudy were breezing sou westerly
three and fifteen, so still a bit over the show.
So temperature's looking pretty good though, Northern South and thirteen
point four, rivet In thirteen point five to now thirteen
point six, Tatoa thirteen point three, winter in thirteen point
three and Woodlands at twelve point six now Nigel what

(01:34):
heads starting the show this afternoon. The Southern Storm Shout
happening next Thursday at Nigel's place, halfway between Balcleuther and Milton.
We'll be talking about this in due course as well.
But we catch up with the Knights and see how
things are going on the farm, but just the reasons
behind why we chose Nigel's place for the shout next week.
Matt McCrae and Macharita is on the program seeing our

(01:56):
things are going there. How he's fared over the past
couple of weeks. Tony Groves of Halo Training. This is
all about rural leadership. Tony's telling us about a course
that he's involved with and what he offers from a
mentorship viewpoint towards a rural sector. Courtney Namo of beef
l Amazon the program talking about events coming up within
the organization and our residents sporting Gury Nathan Burden the

(02:19):
silver ferns that got the series win over England, even
considering the circumstances regarding the coach. Dave Morrison from PGG
writes and gives us a rundown from the Charlton sale Yards.
What's happening with these prices today? Tegle tells us all
about it, and then we'll start the hour with Niger Woodhead.
You're listening to the Muster until two o'clock. He's a

(02:40):
Petersen Nis seven after one listen Niger Woodhead Farms in
South Otago between Balcluther Milton and joins us this afternoon. No,

(03:02):
it's good afternoon, blue sky and abundance. It's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
After the andy.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is an absolute Bobby Dazzler.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
How good two days in a row. Who would have thought, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
We'll take it, we'll take it.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So things are looking good on the ranch at the moment.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, No, we're looking really good.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Hat set.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Just finished up drinking the first wrench on mum Or
the Lambs yesterday, So it's good and they're looking they're
looking good. I weighed a few handful heavyes to see
how heavy had drenched them, but and the handful of
them were north of twenty five. So hopefully in another
month's time we can we'll be able to yeah, get

(03:42):
some heads off some of.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Them at waning.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
And yeah, I reckon the lambs are looking really good,
considering I think they look you know, I sort of
felt they looked good average on.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
A few people have said that looking at lambs, thinking
they're just a little bit slow due to the weather.
But it's surprising how they yield, especially off man.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, like hot days like this, man,
you know, lambs will graph is a bit of fresh
green feed underneath him.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
So yeah, like weather like this is perfect lamb growing weather.
I mean, we need the.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Grass to keep growing.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
We sprayed about nine hectares out earlier in the week
for young grass to go and eat summer last summer crop.
And then you've got another twenty hectares to blow out
this afternoon ready for swedes and five weeks, so you know,
the grass needs to keep going. We're taking a few
bit of the fear bit of the platform out.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
So you're still a month away from waning more or less.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Uh yeah, well, hopefully it will depend on the weather.
I suppose like we'll we'll have freezer, us will go,
so that's we'll go that second week of December and
we usually get talking in to buy our drafted, talking
to sending away skim.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Drafting, and then we'll know we might.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Win some before Christmas. If feeds a bit tight, ideally
would wait until the new year, keep the lambs growing
on their mothers. But we'll just see what the feed
situation's like.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And they use.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
These a couple of mobs, it must have got a
bit tight and earlier on they're a bit lighter, but
most are using really good back. So you know, if
we can keep locks, they keep feed underneath them, then
they should be able to keep bilking and keep lambs
growing right through year.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So your covers are looking okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well you must be all right, because we had kettle
kettle out of their kettle rotations last week, cruising around
in front of using lambs, just taking tops out of
peddocks because it was getting away us. So it's always
a good sign that you meet all hell broke loose
there for a bit and feet took off, Thank God
for bid. Yeah, well, dear, I say it, we're probably

(05:49):
just dry enough ready we could do it that we rain.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
So we're growing.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Grass and growing it fast. But you know, typical farmer,
we're not growing as fast as we could be, but
we're going good like it's really hard to complain.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, on days like this, this Tom you yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, certainly makes a difference to the mood after a
few weeks.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Back, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You just just got
to get used to seeing trees line everywhere now and
it's just part. It's just part of the landscape. But
we'll get on feeding some of them up at some stage.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And based on that nightge, have you talked about their
Jamie McKay earlier on in the week. The Southern Storm
shout happening at your place, which is next Thursday from
three o'clock onwards. It levels flat, so that's where you are.
So you are halfway between Milton and Bellcluth and now
the Emerson's Tiny Pub is going to be there, The
Spake Scar is going to be intendants as well. The
Milton Lions are on the Barbie silverfare and farms have

(06:45):
got the meat. The Milton Lion's got a van book
to give people a ride home, mind ju and the
Milton bell Cluth Lawrence area not quite coming to Southland,
but noneth of, let's get a carlo together. A indeed's
bringing the coffee and ice cream carts, and mcoles McKay's
is in there as well. It's Jamie has described as
a bold hop oil and fused New Zealand Pilsner brood
with the taste of press for lemons and limes, with

(07:07):
a refreshing finish. So it sounds a bit like a laggertop.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's just I haven't heard the description yet. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was there was.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well that will go down, yeah, well, yeah, there'll be
a few, there'll be a few Macau's and struck, but
you don't don't fear the spakes bars coming to so
there'll be plenty of gold, Middle Ohile and and sum
up there as.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well for everybody.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
It should be good afternoon. I say, you know, same
with Jamie Lockett.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
There was my idea.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Jamie just rang and looking for a farm to host it.
And yeah you don't you don't say no to this
sort of opportunity. So yeah, all of a sudden, words
starting to get out, and a few sponsors turn up
and sort of.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Made a call who is a lady locally here?

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Wh's got a coffee cart? So thanks to Ane's In
for sponsoring that. So you know, if you're if you're
not keen on a bed and coming to have a
coffee and ice cream and we'll have plenty of non
alcoholic refreshments too, and some good taka and yeah, some
some yarns and hopefully it's a beautiful day like this
and we can stand around in the sun and forget

(08:12):
about the fact that we're falling out on the farm
for a few years.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
How often can you say, though you've got two portable
pubs in your backyard.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Well giver and hint hints the fact that when Jamie
asked me years So, yeah, I can't see much work
getting done in middle in the.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Next week, but that's all good. It's going to be.
It's gonna be a.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Good afternoon and like hopefully, hopefully we know a few
people can can find some time to park the tractors
up for a day and we'll half a day and
come come out and have a beer.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I don't think we need any more reason to
do that nights after what we've head over the past month.
Like you say, a good opportunity. Everything's provided. Just turn
up if you're not keen on a beer. Coffee cats here,
a bit of ice cream have been a meat on
the barbie as well, so it's all provide that. That's
the best part that will be good.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
I think the only thing we got the Porterloo's order.
We've got everything ordered. I think the only thing we
haven't tracked down yet, but I've got a couple of
ideas as a big bluetooth speaker so you can have
some tunes in the background.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, actually, Jamie McKay has got a massive bluetooth speaker
that he bought, but I don't think he knew how
to work it, so we might have a bit of
an issue. V So you might have to track on
him down yourself.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh well, if he brings it down, I'm sure I
can get it going.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So yeah, like that's a.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Minor detail to be fair.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Exactly. Yep.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I'm just sitting in the yard about to head out.
The head out of the yard and the tractor in
most and bailage which has been ready to mow for
a wee bit now, so it'll be good to get
it on the ground. And then, like I say, I've
got some packs of spurry out for beaten swedes and kale.
And then the next job after that is to have
a tidy up around the yard, get rid of all
the old scrap middle and all the crack that's lying

(09:51):
around and tidy to place up look respectable.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
So it's almost like you're having one of those orders,
but you're doing it for a good reason.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right Wow.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, well I've got I've got one of those or
that's coming up to there you go about a week
before Christmas of all times, but I haven't.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I'm ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Percent of the ladea with my audit stuff. I just
need to do a few week detail things.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
But yeah, this is I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It depends on who you listen to, whether it's a
hundred or or three or four hundred people coming next week.
I better get the place tidy up and make a
good impressure.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Nh.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, the more than mirror and nights. Hey, we'll let
you carry on, looking forward to catching up next week.
And thanks for putting your hand up much appreciated and
enjoy the OVA.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
No no worries, and yeah, I hope everyone's getting on
right out there and you're looking forward to sending good
crowd turn up next week, fill some mutes up, get
on up here and make sure there's a sober driver
and we'll have a good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Nigel want hit of South Intago. There's no real name
for this at the moment, the Southern Storms shout. I
suggested the Shitty Spring shout, but I don't think it's
going to get much traction at the HQ there so nonetheless,
like Nigel said, next Thursday, November the November the twenty seventh,
from three pm at Levels Flat, we're going to be
talking about this over the next week anyway. Matt McCrae,

(11:04):
we check next you listen to the Muster away to
make a reader this afternoon on the Muster where we
catch up with Matt McCrae farming down that way. Good afternoon, Matt,

(11:27):
blue sky around the south. It's a thing of beauty.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Yeah, good afternoon India, sure is. And you what a
treat to get a few days of Iran. So it's
amazing what you can get achieved.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
When they're with the plays ball, you'll.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Be listening to the grass grow at the moment.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Yeah, it's not often that you see covers luft. When
you got using limbs, it stopped and at this time
of the year, so it probably got a but ler
than what we would have liked in the last few months.
But it's certainly making up for a bit of lost
time at the moment.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Long match and.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well, you kind of expect this for like the second
third or the last third of November to have a
bit of blue sky around because we haven't seen too
much of it all at all though over the season,
and all of a sudden you get the blue sky
and your mood changes. You've got to get outside at
sparrow farting actually get stuff done.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, and it certainly does. And it's yeah, been
good to play a bit of catch up. There's certainly
lots of balls in the air at the sume of
the year with trektor work and crops and tailing.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
And all sorts going on.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
So yeah, it's good to be making some steady progress.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you finally got all the tailing tidied up.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Yeah, we wrapped up the hogots and lakes last week.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
So yeah, their limbs are looking really good and their
numbers are up but again on them this year, so
I'm pretty happy with that. And yeah, drink sure the
earlier lambs through the pen this week too, and yeah
that's amazing when you get the man how they're locking
the air with a week or two of sunshine on
their back, the changing by the day.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Which is good to say.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
And I've said a bit of clover coming away in
the grass now to things are really starting to hum along.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So the lambs are handling pretty good coming through the pin.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yeah they are, Like obviously the effects of a cold, wet,
slow spring come through the year's probably didn't milk as
well as they should with the covers getting pretty beer
there for a bit, but yeah, they're using milk a
fair bit off the back, and yeah, the lambs are
looking pretty good considering, so yeah, that'll be good. And

(13:31):
like I said, the covers actually lifting away bit the
last week, so yeah, there's a good pack for them
there and hopefully there's a few a good chunk of
them ready to go off and.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Winning to on in a month.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And so guys, without talking about the wind, you've had
some ridiculous rainfall numbers over the season as well.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, we do probably stop looking at it for the
last couple of weeks. But yeah, we've had a fish
here and he's still got a bit of damage from
the wind. Ob See what's it being so with Underneath
is a few long ones and some Philly big trees
still working through cleaning up. So yeah, we'll keep the
Post River the dust off the Post River for a while,

(14:09):
toiling up a.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Bit on that.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
But yeah, it's still pretty more stir underneath. So the
grass is down this way anyway. The grass is certainly.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Flying as far as the tidy up after the wendsor
you're just having to prioritize what you do.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Yeah, we have. We went around and pulled out most
of the blue gums and net that had fallen over.
There's a few and planted and shout about some tree
loans that are ripped on fences on both sides. I've
got most of them processed and off the fences and
burn piles. Now, how we incident and had before we
got out here a couple of weeks ago with a

(14:46):
pole that would let so there's plenty more of plenty
more poles to burn as well. Yeah, so we've got
them done and there's the micro car.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
The trees are just waiting on a logging crew.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
To come back and now so there's some some good
sort of mill logs out of them, so we get
a bit of timber whereas probably just slashing forward out
of the blue gumps. So we are making progress, but
it's not going to be a short fixed and say,
be a good six months yet before we see the
end of it.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So that's so called and breda Connor's incident. It wasn't
too bad.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
It wasn't too bad.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
We did like lost to hay shed in the corner
of a shed in our backyard. But like in terms
of infra fact, we're pretty good. There's certainly a lot
of others around us. For ourself, yeah, we're pretty good.
And it's just I haven't added up how many trees
or how many climbs is are fencing there is to.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Do. But yeah, it's certainly going to be achievable when
we get through this.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Get through this, whether when get the track work done
in the next week or so, we'll get back onto
the maintenance and.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
That's when we look at the season. Here we're looking
at prices. The red meat price in general is looking
the outstanding across all the sectors. Just intriguing to say
that at the least where the lamp sheet is going
to end up.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, it's great, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Like when you look back twelve months ago there was.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
A bit of doubt and where things were heading, and
it's amazing what twelve months can do. So yeah, good
to see a bit of profitability back in the sector
and positivity around where the lamb pros is going. Obviously
a bit of it's going to be driven by supply
and demand. There's not quite as many out there's what
there used to be, so but yeah, it's good to

(16:36):
make a bit of hate. Why the sunshines and yeah,
hopefully that continues for the medium term future and we
can inject a bit of that cash that we're making
back into light development and paying off debt and yeah,
things like that which should be good.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And we look at the situation with Donald Trump and
these terrafs, which are just an evolving feast. By the day,
I've seen it come off for a bach sector. So
that's a thing of beauty.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yeah, No, it's great, and it just goes to show
the volatility in the market, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Like, obviously prices are really.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Good now, but you don't know what they're going to
be in a week's time or a month's time. We're
in peak season in February, match and kill a lot
of lambs. Just make decisions and or don't get locked
into making decisions too far out and playing each week
as it comes around trading stuff and I'm trying to

(17:29):
mix mores that return.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Out of there.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
You could almost replace the volatility of the market with
the volatility of Donald Trump one stroke of your pen
and your gon sky.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Yeah, and they make up such a significant part of
the market now and world trading platform, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
He does unfortunately have a large impact on on what
we do. But it's a good thing that lot the
New zeal And export market's quite diverse forward now too.
And I've probably learned from covid are in relying on
my market. Yeah, there's certainly a lot of positivity around
where things are at. And yeah, actually drives a bit

(18:08):
of confidence in the sickly going forward because it's been
long averdue.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's sorry, it does it yet to finished out? Well,
keep it a bit lighter than your back, So I
wouldn't say lighter, I'd say a bit more of a
concern two years out from the World Cup. Do you
trust Raisors process?

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah? I do. I do.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
I'd like to see a bit more experimentation in some
of his selections, but when you look at it, he
has got a lot of young talent in the last
few years. It would just be nice to see someone
in the first five jersey given the keys that has
a bit of youth and fleece. He's certainly got the
tools there. It's just they're just missing that clock at

(18:47):
the moment, aren't they. Yeah, I'd like to see probably
someone a lot Rubin Love given a crack this week
and a few young fellows out ward. Just goes to
show when you look at the likes of Fabian Holland
and co. And how much I've grown this year, there's
plenty more players like that that'll come through and say
us So.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, absolutely, Matt, Hey always appreciate your time on the muster.
You can and enjoy the sunshine.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Appreciate it. Cheers Nick, you too.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Matt McCrae of Mockada and joined the Blue Sky as well.
As there's red meat prices at the moment you're listening
to the Muster and Hakanui. Up next from Halo Training,
Tony Grows. Welcome back to the Muster. Tony Groves of

(19:39):
Halo Training joins us this afternoon. Tony, good afternoon, and
welcome to the Muster.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
Hey, good Andy, Thanks a lot, mate, It's awesome to
be here.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Halo Training Training as such, what is.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
It as a leadership development program. We've been around for
almost nine years now, and we're teaching leadership to organize
based on well, originally based on my experience from when
I was in the military and the intelligence community, and
I learned a lot of salty lessons while I was

(20:11):
overseas on operations. I deployed in East Team or Iraq
and Afghanistan in leadership roles, and yeah, we found some
really we learned some really salty lessons over there. And
when I came home and we started my wife and
I were talking and she could see how it aligned
with business. And then we started talking to other friends
who are in business and they said, this is really

(20:32):
useful stuff, and we ended up creating Halo Training from that, and.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Hence you're able to translate these into agriculture as such
for leadership.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Yeah, that actually was unexpected and unexpected path for us.
We didn't set out to serve the egg industry. Initially,
we were teaching to business, and over the years we
saw more and more people from agriculture attending our programs
and it was just asistant a put trend of egg participants.

(21:03):
And they started asking this, you know, why are you
doing something like this just for the egg industry And
they said it's really useful, especially your background in the military.
And I said, well, how is that helpful for you guys?
And they're saying, well, if anyone gets it that you guys,
you don't work nine till five. There's work that needs
to be done, and that's what you start when you

(21:24):
need to start, and you finish when you need to finish.
You're out in all conditions of the environment, doesn't matter
if it's cold, wet and miserable, hot and dry. The
work's got to be done and we're outside doing it
and you're away from your families a lot, just like us.
And that was a really interesting one because when I
dug down into that part of the conversation, they're talking
about we might not be deployed. But if we're you know,

(21:47):
these guys are on pretty big stations, and they're saying,
we don't see our families much either. Even though we're
on our own land. We were away all day way
up in the walks. We don't see our families often either.
And I've had a bit of a challenge coming home
myself around PTSD, and I was formerly an alcoholic and

(22:08):
I had got diagnosed with anxiety and depression. It was
a pretty challenging time personally. And the farmers they really
resonated with that. They said, it's actually the same things
that we're going through, and I'm very fortunate to come
out of out the other end in a better position
from my own experience. But it was something that just

(22:29):
made it more genuine and authentic when we're talking to
the farmers, they really understand what that's like. And I
learned a lot of lessons that I can pass on
to others so they don't have to take that same path.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
That's what I was going to ask you, Tony. It
sounds as though you've had quite a journey, but actually
getting to the bottom, reinventing yourself and coming back out
you think you can correlate that with a lot of
farmers as well, based on the business structures.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
Yeah, so much for me personally at the time. You think,
you know, if I look at the lowest points, bare bottom,
I can't see a way out of this, and maybe
I need to look at an exit strategy, and you
think that's as bad as it gets. And what I
learned in retrospect, although I'd never want to go through
it again, what I learned from that was actually the

(23:13):
best thing that happened to me because it really made
me sort out my priorities and make real progress. You know,
I had to, like you said, I had to reinvent myself.
And after that, now that I know what bad looks like,
I never want to be there again. And I'm at
a completely different place. I see life differently, I see
myself differently, even see work differently.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
So tell us about the course then, as far as
what farmers can expect, do they enroll?

Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yeah, So we call it the Certified Halo Leader Agriculture
Program and it's a twelvemonth program this year. This year,
we just had our graduation of this year's cohort yesterday.
It was run out of Fairlight's station. The next one
will be run out of moss Bern at Farmlands in
the boardroom there, and it's a twelve month program and

(24:03):
it was built around the demand from what the farmers wanted.
They said, it's really like food sealerd for us. If
we want to learn certain leadership tools, we've got to
go to different places. There's not really anywhere where you
can go to get the full suite of leadership skills.
And we're so okay, so well, we've definitely got an
answer to that, and they said. The other thing is

(24:25):
I'm just generalizing, summarizing what a number of conversations ended
up with. We'd often hear something like this, Yeah, you know, look,
we're farmers. We're busy, we're time poor, and we're never happy.
How can you give us training? How can you develop
a training program that will suit people like us? And
it's easy. We just do one session a month. It's

(24:48):
from nine till twelve, and each session focuses on just
one tool, and each tool from each session builds on
the previous so by the end of the year they've
the full leadership operating system. Not only that's going to
help them regardless of their level of leadership in the business,
but with that operating system, it's teachable and transferable so

(25:11):
they can create organic succession within their own farm teams themselves.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
So as far as numbers on the course, Tony, what's available.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
We typically want. The magic number for us is ten
to twelve. That's a really good number for us and
it keeps it really personal and make sure that we
can give everybody the time that they deserve. So yeah,
ten to twelve people and it's for you know. This
year was just a really great program. We had interns

(25:39):
from the Fairlight Foundation that's run out of Fairlight Station.
So they're all about advancing women in agriculture and they
come out of university and they do their one year
internship at Fairlight Station to develop develop their skills right
across all sides of agriculture, dear beef, dairy, the whole thing.

(26:01):
It's a great program. So we have the three interns
this year and we had a couple of lead shepherds.
We had three farm managers and the general manager all
on the program and they're all from different businesses, right,
so that's the core part as well. What I really
loved with this year is when you've got a general

(26:23):
manager and interns on the program. It was so helpful
for both sides. The general measure was Ala Maxwell from
Grasslands here in mos Ben, and he was talking about
how it helped him really connect with what it's like
to be on the ground, because you know, with the experience,
it's a double edged sword. We learn a lot over

(26:45):
the years, but sometimes we can forget what it's like
to be on the ground again. And he found it
really really valuable and helpful for him having people like
the interns and the lead shepherds on the program so
you could just stay in touch with what it's like
in then. But on the flip side to that, the
future leaders and the first line leaders, they got a

(27:06):
lot out of having the farm managers and the general
manager on the program because they got to see what
it's like and the pressures that the leadership face, and
they started thinking bigger picture, not just what would you
like me to do, but what is it that the
boss from a boss's perspective, that they need me to
do so that they could take informed initiative. So there
was a lot of value not just in what we teach,

(27:27):
but just in the connection and the conversations in the
room over the course of that year.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, and just finally, Tony, Halo Training dot co dot
MZ for people to get in touch. Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. You can just go onto
the programs and you'll see the Certified Halo Leader Agriculture
program and you can just follow the bouncing ball from there.
There's just one last thing I'd like to say about
that this program, Certified Halo Leader Agriculture. The whole point
of that name and what it is that we do
is that if anyone is hiring somebody that's done that program,

(27:57):
you know exactly what you're getting. Know that they're not
only just said and it's not just theory. They've actually
got to put these tools to practice in the workplace.
So you'll see that when you get somebody from that program,
you'll know exactly what they've done. And it's not just
a to conflict qualification by attendance program. You really know
what you're getting.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Good on your Tony, enjoyed the chat this afternoon, and
enjoy the OVO.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
Awesome. Hey, thanks a lot, mate, take care, really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Tony grows of Halo Training once again. Halo Training dot
co dot NZ for next year's intake. This is the Muster.
Courtney Nemo from Beef and Land New Zealand's up next.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
The Muster Events Diary, brought to you by Beef and
Lamb New Zealand. Click beeflambendz dot com.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Courtney Nmo is vice chair of Beef and Lamb in
the Southern South Island Council and joins us this afternoon.
Get aught any good to chat once again?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (29:02):
Get a How are you getting on?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Pretty good? We've got blue sky. It's a thing of beauty.
Dare I say it? Two days in a row. It's
almost like a treat.

Speaker 9 (29:11):
Honestly, I would go as far as saying it seems tropical,
So I'll keep it coming.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I know what you're saying. It's certainly been a trying season.

Speaker 9 (29:18):
Right, Oh, definitely, And I think you know, I think
I'm trying to train my brain to focus on the
small wind, so I'm sticking with it's tropical.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Is that what you're finding at the moment when you're
speaking to people, they're just having to break I don't know,
You've got your goals you want to obtain, but you're
having to break them down to little cycles.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
Oh, totally. And I think especially like in our sector,
it's natural to be like you're going to the next thing,
going to the next thing, going to the next thing,
but it's actually really important to kind of take stock
and you know, look at you know, like the grass
you know largely is growing, you know, really well everywhere
now and we're getting some of that you know, good
wad of a tractor work and you know, there's a

(29:56):
lot of that happening. So I think it's just you know,
taking away moment, as corny as it is, to just
focus on, you know, what is going well, and because
we're really good at focusing on what needs to be done.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's exactly a cordy Now. As far as Beef and
Lamb is quite a bit going on at the moment
as well.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
Yes, we've got awesome events going on through the extension team,
and then we have the Beef and then awards coming
up as well.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Right the Beef and Lamb Awards, it's all.

Speaker 9 (30:24):
About celebrating the people, the innovation and the technology that
make our red meat sector you know, world leading, because
it really is world leading, and it's the entries and
now open to the awards and it's a really good
opportunity to think about your farm staff, fellow farmers, you know,
leaders and our sector, teachers, innovators, mentors, scientists, market is

(30:51):
you know, basically anyone who's involved in our sector, in
the red meat sector, and nominate them for award. There's
eight you should just talk to you. Yeah, there's eight
categories that four of them are focused on people and
four of them are industry focused and they're all categories
that reflect befon nam strategy and you know what we're
all trying to achieve in the sector.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
So who's it open to?

Speaker 9 (31:15):
So it is open to anyone in the sheep and beef,
including dairy beef. And it's really easy to you nominate,
So you just you just go to the BEFA name
website and right on the homepage there'll be a link
and then you just follow through and then and you
place the nomination.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And this is the great thing about the rural sector.
We've got these awards ceremonies to celebrate the positives that
are going on. And it is an ever evolving landscape
landscape at the moment, regarding technology, regarding people, and regarding
just work ethics as such as well and so we
need to sit there and just have a bit of
a moment and appreciate what the sector is doing.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
Absolutely, and you know, we really want to see the
Lowest South represented and all of these categories. So it'
you know, I just encourage people to just take that
little bit of time to nominate. It only takes a
few minutes. But there are so many people in our
sector down here in the Lower South that are so
worth celebrating. And you know, not everyone can win, but

(32:17):
the feedback that I've had before is just people getting
you know, the fact that they were nominated. It just
means so much to them. So you know, it would
be great to see people to take the time to
do that.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
May I just say those twoi's in the background are fantastic.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
Oh they are quite aggressive at the moment. We've got
a Chilean fire tree and they just are relentless.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But yeah, very grateful to have been Absolutely background noise
is fantastic. Now other events that are coming up, there's
a couple of things growing great lambs in winter.

Speaker 9 (32:47):
Yes, So that workshop focuses on the key drivers of
lamb production and profitability. And I think the key call
out for that workshop is that the average growth lamb
growth straights. I think it's less than one hundred grams
per day in New Zealand, but the potential is to
be over three hundred grams. So this workshop will focus

(33:08):
on you know, practical things that you can do and
what you can influence and it's facilitated by doing Carson.
So it'll be an awesome, awesome event.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
The other one coming up, worm was workshops. That is
that time of year again talking about wream burdens, about
drenching programs. We need to get on top of the situation, right.

Speaker 9 (33:28):
Oh, definitely, And I think some people, you know, the
feedback we get is some people, you know, I did
this one a few years ago and I know, but
actually there's always new content in them. And this one
also focuses on you know what the Yeah, obviously the
worm part of it as well, but also the second

(33:49):
part of the day is focusing on body condition scoring
for use after waning, so incredibly relevant to what we're
about to go through down here.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Now that's happening on the the Gore Golf Club next Thursday.
You're next Thursday, the twenty seventh.

Speaker 9 (34:05):
Yes, exactly, And sorry I should have mentioned be the
name awards. So the awards dinner is held on the
twentieth of May, so that you know that is a
wee way out, But the entries for this close on
the eighth of December.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So it's not that far away. Really.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
As far as the Southern Farmer councilor how things been, yes, good, we.

Speaker 9 (34:25):
Had we obviously. I caught up with you after the AGM,
and right now is kind of the busy timing year
for everyone on the Farmer Council, so everyone's busy tailing,
some people starting waning, and there's a lot of track
to work happening. So yeah, well we're catching up in
December again and we'll just get a bit of an

(34:46):
overview of what's happening in the region for coming into
the next year.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Final question, are you managing to keep Graham Evans in line?

Speaker 9 (34:55):
I have known Graham for so long and I think
you know the answer to that question. That's never going
to happen, and he just loves.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
To wind up.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Good on you, Graham if you're listening. Always good to
catch up mate, As it is of you Courtney and
the team of beef Lair New Zealand. You enjoy THEO
you two thanks and so the way Courtney Nemo of
Beef and Laird, New Zealand beeflam in z dot Com
slash events to get the inbox and you're to get
the e Diary into your inbox every Friday. Got there eventually,

(35:25):
ourson is spoiling going. Nathan Burden joys us next to
wrap the hour the Artist's Kiss. The song is Detroit

(35:57):
Rock City. You're listening to the Muster on HAKUI. Our
next guest is our resident sporting gury Nathan Brandon out
of in for cargo.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
Get a nath, get a mate.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
How are you pretty good? We've had two days of
warm weather. It's like a thing of beauty.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Right, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 10 (36:12):
Yeah, after the spring we've had. It's it's lovely to
have a bit of consistently nice weather.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Lifts the mood, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Well, enjoy it while we've got it. I'll tell you
about lifting the mood. The mood and the silver Ferns.
Beating England in this series over there as well, and
what has been an interesting couple of months for the team.

Speaker 10 (36:31):
Yeah, the body language at the end of that game
looked really good too, and it looked like the players
almost a sense of palpable sense of relief, but also
you know, a job very well done under some pretty
trying circumstances. And to take that series two one over,
what is a what a pretty good England Roses team

(36:51):
brink number four in the world. It's a couple of
places below us, but that is that is a great
result and some good resilience shown.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Why those players, Because.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
The whole situation with Dame Nolen tarroas just been fascicle, right.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
Fascicle would be a very good word, I think. Yeah,
and my problem potentially still some more to come, I think,
And because this just rolls on in terms of how
the program is structured going forward and the lack of games,
I guess in the build up to Commonwealth Games next year,
which is a pinnacle event for netball, but they it

(37:28):
doesn't seem to be a pinnacle program in terms of
building up to that, and at worst case, Dame Noleine
Codu could be coming in like a week out from
that from that event, which, as you say, seems farstacle.
But yeah, at least I guess that the Silver Friends
are getting the job done on the court, which is
I guess at the end of the day, the main thing.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Do you think there's a bit of a hint though,
and the players are leaving New Zealand to go and
to go and play in the Aussie competition. There's a
bit of an inkling there as to who isn't happy
you reckon or is that just looking too much into it?

Speaker 10 (37:58):
Look, I just don't know to say convincingly, to be honest,
there is just so much going on the game in
terms of where the where professionally, players are looking for
those those best opportunities, and they're getting so much more
money to be playing over in Australia than they can
under the current model in New Zealand. And I don't
know if even at their best of netble New Zealand,

(38:19):
if there's a lot that they could do about that.
They've opened the floodgates a little in terms of changing
those eligibility the Graceniki rule. But and so this is
sort of where we're at. Maybe maybe there'll be a
silver lining in all of this that those players will
go over there and you know, potentially come you develop

(38:40):
your own games, it'll be a stronger competition that they'll
be playing in. It certainly hasn't done any done, grace
any any harm playing a season over there, So you know,
we'll just make for a better Silver Freends team going
into a Comra off games. Worst to wait and see the.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
All Blacks they finish up the season against, where who
arguably have been pretty crap over the last twelve to
eighty months. Least be honest about it. They beat Japan
at the weekend in the eighty first minute. But for
the All Blacks, you need to blood these young players.
Get them out there, get your Ruben Loves and the
likes out on the paddic.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
It's gonna be really interesting to see what sort of
team Scott Robertson picks, isn't it, And I guess it's
a It is a golden opportunity to give some players
that haven't had a lot of game time, and Ruben
loves one of those who's been sort of a bit
of a mystery man, an opportunity to give some of
these players a run. It really just feels like a
lose lose test, though I don't think any of us

(39:36):
would in their wildest dreams expect the All Blacks to
drop a game against what is a struggling Welsh team.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
But what do they do.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
I mean if they if they win by a little
then it's you know then that that will be there,
that won't leave those detractors of this current team. You know,
it'll give them plenty of ammunition. If they win by
a lot, well, you know, it's sort of what you
expect to So it's going to be tough. It's a
tough outing in Cardiff and it's hard to see. I

(40:05):
guess what a great outcome for the All Blacks here.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Is because the unfortunate thing from the twicking I won't
say debarcle, but the loss was the lack of game plan.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
There was.

Speaker 10 (40:14):
There just doesn't feel well. There's something that's just not right.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Something isn't right in that setup.

Speaker 10 (40:19):
We don't know about it, just just something that's not clicking.
I've been thinking over the last week around you know,
are we just another international rugby team these days? And
is this just sort of where we're at that certainly
that All Black aura and this is not a Scott
Robertson thing by any by any means. This has just

(40:40):
started definitely under under Ian Foster. We've had you know,
over the years, we've had their first losses to Argentina
air first losses to the Irish. We've we've lost, you know,
we've lost games that we would have expected to win.
This team, I think an international rugby, they feel beatable.
Team go into games knowing that they can beat the

(41:02):
A B. So is that is that just a blip
arm or is that a sign of sort of where
the New Zealand game is at, you know? And is
this a matter of have we dropped their standards or
have international teams lifted lifted Theirs? And who really knows?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
The ashes it gets underway tomorrow and Perth, but look,
this is going to be fascinating. Firstly, we've got test
cricket on the horizon. It's fewer friendly for Kiwi's and
it's the rivalry between the two old foes interesting one.

Speaker 10 (41:34):
We obviously we've had England on Ashaw's recently probably felt
like they had one eye more sort of on the
horizon in terms of this series than what was happening
against the black Caps. But yeah, it's it's always it's
always a great series. You'd love it to be as
competitive as possible. Maybe I don't know which which foot

(41:57):
you actually put the put the camp in I probably
go with the English. Actually, it'd be good to see
England knock over Australia over there and it'll be interesting
to see what they can do at Optics, and they'll
be wanting to make a great first impression in terms
of the series and get off to the best possible start.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I don't really care who wins. I just want to
see them going at it, and I think that is
exactly what's going to happen. I mean, this Ozzie Bowling attack.
Who have you got? Scott Boland highly underrated, remembering six
for seven against the Poems on at Boxing Day a
couple of years ago, Mitchell Stark and there the guys
still got all the goods, Josh hazl Wold. But then
you look at the English side finally in a Test match,

(42:35):
Mark Hood and Joffra Archer, two very good bowlers but
very prone to injury.

Speaker 10 (42:41):
Yeah, it's outstanding, isn't it? When when you put it
like that, Cow especially, I guess we've got this steady
diet of white ball cricket, so it is it is
great to sort of just sit back on the couch
and see, you know, two of the better teams in
red ball cricket across the international scene going in a
series that you know, it means a lot and a

(43:02):
lot of cricket will will come and go. But this
is a series that players sort of state the whole
reputation and careers on, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Get on your Nathan Burden and always appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
Lovely, thanks mate, laugh out loud with ag proud because
life on the land can be a laughing matter.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer. Why did it Ladin get banned from
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been listening to the muster on Hakanui thanks to Peter's genetics.

(43:43):
Enjoy the blue sky. See you tomorrow one o'clock. Hey, well,
all right to the stock sounding action occurred this morning
at the Chilton sale yards. Dave Morrison from PGG Rights
and gives us a rundown on prices tea. You're gooda
have to learn? How do we go?

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Yeah, yeah, look, obviously a beautiful day down there, which
is pretty good, and the prices were very good as well.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Probably pretty much on the path for the previous couple
of weeks.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
They started the best of the lambs, sorry, the best
of the hoggots Andy best then three thirty three forty
that obviously heavy heavy male lands millions a sort of
two fifty three about two ninety in the smaller of
the prime lands around it's sort of two hundred and
two fifteen uh, a few rams and today that markets
certainly picked up the best of rams for the one

(44:30):
one thirty one forty that's heavy rams, Carl rams into
the muttain lars, lars yelium used today Andy the best
to use to seventy it's heavy used mediums aware from
sort of one aged to two ten two hundred and
ten with the light to use that's where the real
strengthens and the light use from one hundred and fifty

(44:51):
one hundred and eighty five dollars. No using the lands
and I today unfortunately, And that wraps it up
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