September 30, 2025 • 8 mins
Lyn Berry describes the correlation between the Crispr gene in horses and cattle growth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh my good lord, someone for me, I have a
double shadow said, there's a party down sound there?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Fifteen you everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Had the bard before we catch up with Lynn Berry
Taffy Limited. Their annual yeelding recorded Jersey bullsale is now
happening tomorrow the second of October, that is Thursday, coincidentally,
inspection at ten am, starting at eleven. Thanks of PGG
rights and any concerns, get in touch with your local
PGG rights an agent. Lynn Berry.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well it is now that the weathers find up a
little bit and the snowflourries are gone, so to speak,
and some of the snow's mountain.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, the good news is Friday's a high at seventeen
whoa awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I know it's harder to fact than a broken nose.
This forecast to tell you, look.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well, it's normal for this time of the year, like
it's happened for the last nearly thirty years that I've
been down here. Every time in late September October we
get snow. It just depends how bad and how many times.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Past your growth.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Something else I hopefully always occurs too, is taken a
bit of a check.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I got the woodland's gross growth the other day, and
our mean for this September or the middle of September
is usually about twenty five kg's dry matter or hectare,
and this time this year it's down to just under fifteen,
so it's slowed up a bit quite a bit. It's
about nearly forty percent difference, and a lot of people
(01:32):
out there would have noticed it. Anyway. Not quite ideal
when we are probably some of the people are getting
near the end of their first round, and it's also
not that far away from mating coming up, so we
wanted our cows to be cycling.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
This is no different to what we've seen before, though.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
No exactly it always happens, just depends on how big
the drop is. It's a little bit bigger than it
has been in the last three or four years. But
if everybody's got things in places place. August has been
a really good month and most of September as far
as weather conditions down here, competed to last year, so
(02:11):
it should have set us up reasonably well for our
cows to be starting to at least hold some condition
or starting to put a little bit more on and
we need that to be happening coming up to mating,
so that our cows are cycling and they can get
a couple of cycles in before the start of mating.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Those lighter cows you need to try and prack them
up somehow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
No, we need to be looking at those lighter cows
going through and body conditions. Scoring them in the shed.
You might be able to if you run them into
separate mobs and maybe put them if you've got a
heafer mob or a young cow mob, stick your lighter
cows in there for a while. Some people will run
their lighter cows and their heifers first and second carvers
(02:54):
in a once a day mob, maybe up until Christmas time,
and I've heard really good results with doing that. But
just taking that little bit of a pressure off them
so that they can, you know, balance balance out and
start gaining or holding the condition and not losing it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, you should be body screwing your animals more often
than not anywhere, though, shouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, you should. If you're lucky enough to have scales
in the shed. That's really cool. Some of these really
automated farms now will have the scales and if they
drop below a certain weight, they've got the collars on
that'll or automatic drafting that'll draft them out into the
light mob anyway, and then they manage it that way.
(03:39):
But it's you should be picking up on your cows
that are lighter, and you should be conditioned screwing, and
maybe at least four times a year.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think one thing though as well, was if you're
concerned about the animals, you want to get get a
second opinion, get a neibor get a mate, just get
somebody come in there and just say what are your thoughts,
because another opinion can make a big change, because farmers
a notoriously fussy for what they see on an animal
right exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But it's also the same as assessing pasture. As long
as you're doing it the same way continuously all year,
then you can notice your pasture decreasing or increasing. It's
the same when you are body conditioning your cows. If
you are doing it the same way all year, and
you should be able to pick up your cows that
are losing condition and increasing condition. But it's always handy
(04:30):
to go to the field days that they have on
body conditions scoring so that you can get your eye
in and It's also handy if you've got a consultant
that comes round and he's walking arounduntil she's walking around
the paddock and they go, hmmm, I think some of
these animals are a bit light. You might need to
do something about it. Or geese, those girls are a
bit tubby, and like having tubby girls coming up to
(04:52):
mating can be just as detrimental as having them a
bit light.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Something else to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Crisper horses is chrisper horses pano horses from Argentina. Argentinians
have actually managed to produce some crisper horses. That sounds
like a chip.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I know it's chicken flavored, but this this, it's horse
flavored this time. But the gene that they have suppressed
actually makes for more muscle mass. So these horses technically
should be able to run faster, which is good for polo.
But the polo association in Argentinian and Argentina aren't happy
(05:34):
about it. You're going to say Argentinia, I know, Argentinia,
but you can not say that anymore because they've changed
the way you say it. But anyway, so and it
wouldn't be that flash for horse racing because you know
that it's like doping athletes adding extra muscle. But the
good thing that could be used for is actually increasing
(05:55):
muscle and our beef animals, in our and our meat
stock that we send off to the works. So if
we can suppress that gene that restricts muscle size or
muscle development, then we can produce more muscle in our
animals and therefore get more money. But the other thing
that was interesting when I was reading up about it
is that when they do Crisper and they edit their genes,
(06:19):
then that's permanent. They can't undo what they've done. But
there's a new method now called eptogenomes editing where they
can control the gene and they can turn it off
and then they can turn it back on again, so
that if they find out down the track that it
(06:39):
wasn't a good idea for some reason, then they can
redo what they've done, which seems a lot more sensible, because.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How do you just turn a gene on and off?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I don't know, because I'm not a genetic scientist, andy,
but apparently that you can. They they've found a way
of doing that, so that sounds pretty I think that
sounds a lot more safer than some other processes at
the moment, but I know that they are using Crisper
in medication to help people with sickle selling anemia.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Now in the States, that'd be a great slogan the Lake.
Pete Sinclear could have voiced Crisper more beef mass that's
it exactly and that and Telly you're in Canadia. Yeah,
good on you. I don't always appreciate your time. You
can hang around for this laugh.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Out loud with ag proud because life on the land
can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data Working to help
the livestock farmer. Teacher says, what is the most important
punctuation mark? Johnny goes? The period teacher says, can you
tell me why Johnny goes? I don't know, but when
my sister missed one of hers, Mum fainted, dare got mad.
The neighbor left town never came back.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Please go.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
There we go that sweeze over and dole on your
Leninoi's good to catch up. My name's Andy Muur. You've
been listening to the Muster on hockin NEWI thanks for
Peterson Nix. The podcast going up shortly. Enjoy the afternoon
made this blue sky reign supreme. Whenever we see it,
see it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You can still set the three to the four, sell them,
bring another out. We need thirty more
Oh my good lord, someone for me, I have a
double shadow said, there's a party down sound there?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Fifteen you everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Had the bard before we catch up with Lynn Berry
Taffy Limited. Their annual yeelding recorded Jersey bullsale is now
happening tomorrow the second of October, that is Thursday, coincidentally,
inspection at ten am, starting at eleven. Thanks of PGG
rights and any concerns, get in touch with your local
PGG rights an agent. Lynn Berry.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well it is now that the weathers find up a
little bit and the snowflourries are gone, so to speak,
and some of the snow's mountain.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, the good news is Friday's a high at seventeen
whoa awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I know it's harder to fact than a broken nose.
This forecast to tell you, look.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well, it's normal for this time of the year, like
it's happened for the last nearly thirty years that I've
been down here. Every time in late September October we
get snow. It just depends how bad and how many times.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Past your growth.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Something else I hopefully always occurs too, is taken a
bit of a check.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I got the woodland's gross growth the other day, and
our mean for this September or the middle of September
is usually about twenty five kg's dry matter or hectare,
and this time this year it's down to just under fifteen,
so it's slowed up a bit quite a bit. It's
about nearly forty percent difference, and a lot of people
(01:32):
out there would have noticed it. Anyway. Not quite ideal
when we are probably some of the people are getting
near the end of their first round, and it's also
not that far away from mating coming up, so we
wanted our cows to be cycling.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
This is no different to what we've seen before, though.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
No exactly it always happens, just depends on how big
the drop is. It's a little bit bigger than it
has been in the last three or four years. But
if everybody's got things in places place. August has been
a really good month and most of September as far
as weather conditions down here, competed to last year, so
(02:11):
it should have set us up reasonably well for our
cows to be starting to at least hold some condition
or starting to put a little bit more on and
we need that to be happening coming up to mating,
so that our cows are cycling and they can get
a couple of cycles in before the start of mating.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Those lighter cows you need to try and prack them
up somehow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
No, we need to be looking at those lighter cows
going through and body conditions. Scoring them in the shed.
You might be able to if you run them into
separate mobs and maybe put them if you've got a
heafer mob or a young cow mob, stick your lighter
cows in there for a while. Some people will run
their lighter cows and their heifers first and second carvers
(02:54):
in a once a day mob, maybe up until Christmas time,
and I've heard really good results with doing that. But
just taking that little bit of a pressure off them
so that they can, you know, balance balance out and
start gaining or holding the condition and not losing it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, you should be body screwing your animals more often
than not anywhere, though, shouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, you should. If you're lucky enough to have scales
in the shed. That's really cool. Some of these really
automated farms now will have the scales and if they
drop below a certain weight, they've got the collars on
that'll or automatic drafting that'll draft them out into the
light mob anyway, and then they manage it that way.
(03:39):
But it's you should be picking up on your cows
that are lighter, and you should be conditioned screwing, and
maybe at least four times a year.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think one thing though as well, was if you're
concerned about the animals, you want to get get a
second opinion, get a neibor get a mate, just get
somebody come in there and just say what are your thoughts,
because another opinion can make a big change, because farmers
a notoriously fussy for what they see on an animal
right exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But it's also the same as assessing pasture. As long
as you're doing it the same way continuously all year,
then you can notice your pasture decreasing or increasing. It's
the same when you are body conditioning your cows. If
you are doing it the same way all year, and
you should be able to pick up your cows that
are losing condition and increasing condition. But it's always handy
(04:30):
to go to the field days that they have on
body conditions scoring so that you can get your eye
in and It's also handy if you've got a consultant
that comes round and he's walking arounduntil she's walking around
the paddock and they go, hmmm, I think some of
these animals are a bit light. You might need to
do something about it. Or geese, those girls are a
bit tubby, and like having tubby girls coming up to
(04:52):
mating can be just as detrimental as having them a
bit light.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Something else to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Crisper horses is chrisper horses pano horses from Argentina. Argentinians
have actually managed to produce some crisper horses. That sounds
like a chip.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I know it's chicken flavored, but this this, it's horse
flavored this time. But the gene that they have suppressed
actually makes for more muscle mass. So these horses technically
should be able to run faster, which is good for polo.
But the polo association in Argentinian and Argentina aren't happy
(05:34):
about it. You're going to say Argentinia, I know, Argentinia,
but you can not say that anymore because they've changed
the way you say it. But anyway, so and it
wouldn't be that flash for horse racing because you know
that it's like doping athletes adding extra muscle. But the
good thing that could be used for is actually increasing
(05:55):
muscle and our beef animals, in our and our meat
stock that we send off to the works. So if
we can suppress that gene that restricts muscle size or
muscle development, then we can produce more muscle in our
animals and therefore get more money. But the other thing
that was interesting when I was reading up about it
is that when they do Crisper and they edit their genes,
(06:19):
then that's permanent. They can't undo what they've done. But
there's a new method now called eptogenomes editing where they
can control the gene and they can turn it off
and then they can turn it back on again, so
that if they find out down the track that it
(06:39):
wasn't a good idea for some reason, then they can
redo what they've done, which seems a lot more sensible, because.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How do you just turn a gene on and off?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I don't know, because I'm not a genetic scientist, andy,
but apparently that you can. They they've found a way
of doing that, so that sounds pretty I think that
sounds a lot more safer than some other processes at
the moment, but I know that they are using Crisper
in medication to help people with sickle selling anemia.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Now in the States, that'd be a great slogan the Lake.
Pete Sinclear could have voiced Crisper more beef mass that's
it exactly and that and Telly you're in Canadia. Yeah,
good on you. I don't always appreciate your time. You
can hang around for this laugh.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Out loud with ag proud because life on the land
can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data Working to help
the livestock farmer. Teacher says, what is the most important
punctuation mark? Johnny goes? The period teacher says, can you
tell me why Johnny goes? I don't know, but when
my sister missed one of hers, Mum fainted, dare got mad.
The neighbor left town never came back.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Please go.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
There we go that sweeze over and dole on your
Leninoi's good to catch up. My name's Andy Muur. You've
been listening to the Muster on hockin NEWI thanks for
Peterson Nix. The podcast going up shortly. Enjoy the afternoon
made this blue sky reign supreme. Whenever we see it,
see it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You can still set the three to the four, sell them,
bring another out. We need thirty more
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