Ochelli Effect 10-31-2025 Friday Night Call-in with B Pete Part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh man, that was funny. Now that was the touchdown terrace,
right she.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Did just can't yeah touchdown terrorists, this can't be ups.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah it's you ps look at the weekend. We could
puck go town kill out.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah it's you, it's u f us or whatever those
other things. They were just yelled as lady know it
was too funny. And then she called back a couple
of times. I think, right, because she had the wrong number,
and she's because I don't know why, but she had
the wrong number, and she's screaming about her package and
this and that, and they just kept abusing her left
and right. It was like, we don't care what you want,
what's in your package? You know what? Next time, I'm

(00:41):
gonna I'm gonna take a dump on your porch.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
We gonna find your package and we're gonna set it
on fire.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I like what?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
And then he talks like a regular voice, so like
really really said that. That's very odd. He's worked twenty years,
that's knowing him to be very expenseful man.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Right, he's usually very respectful. I don't know. Maybe we
could put you back on the line with him and
he can explain himself. Yeah, what you want is really
he yelled at him again, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Messing my job, dady, don't you miss my job?

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Not you again?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yep, man oh man stuff again.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
That stuff was funny. Uh that's that's yeah, that's probably
like what fifteen years ago on the internet now, right at.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
Least he'd be like twenty He was like, maybe it's
been at least twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's how our Stern's been funny.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, well that's another thing. But okay, I gave up
on him probably around twenty years ago completely. I mean
I was a listener Howard Sterns for years, but uh,
I you know, I never got into all this stupid
sex stuff. It was really I found it funny his
commentary and like he'd be harsh on things and it

(02:10):
was just usually like the stuff that nobody really wanted
to say. I mean, he was the most politically incorrect
guy possible for a long time, and I thought it
was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
But you know, well, is this true or not?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean, in retrospect, in my view, the minute he
went to act sem or serious whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Did he or did not did he not.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Just basically go to celebrity interview for man and crack
jokes with comedians and things of the such for I
don't know, ten of the years and then did he
or did he not ten years ago just blow a
gasket and might as well as joint seat whatever MSNBC, Well,

(02:56):
that's kind of like my memory.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
It seems to me as though he went a Serrus
XM and got off of terrestrial radio because they were
just finding him to death and it was just, you know,
he was getting in trouble constantly. So he went over
there and did all the outrageous things he always wanted
to do on radio right away, and that kind of
burned out after a couple of years. It was kind
of over because the celebrity interviews he started doing in

(03:19):
the nineties when they did like the Howard Stern interview,
and he was working with the E Network and all
that stuff, and that's back when Rupe Paul was an
interview person. For a little bit. I could never understand that,
but all of a sudden, the trends, you know, the
transvestite Rupe Paul was like a big celebrity interviewer, and

(03:41):
same time so was Howard Stern, you know, and it
was like the Howard Stern interview and then the Howard
Stern radio show. They did like a half hour thing
of it on TV, and it usually did feature the
big guest. But when he went over to Syrus XM,
it was like, Okay, now I can say whatever the
hell I want, I can curse whatever because it's all
by subscription. And he did it for a little bit,

(04:03):
and he was outrageous for a little bit, and then
people got on him pretty bad. I think after he
had the Space Lesbian thing on, and you know, because
she was like this crazy woman who said that, you know,
the female aliens were coming down to have sex with her,
and she died of a drug overdose. Her boyfriend brought
her cremated remains into the studio and he was like

(04:27):
doing a bit where he's like rattling the little bone
pieces in the box, going, hey, wait a minute, I
think the Space Lesbian wants to say something, and he'd
rattle the bones near the microphone and stuff like this,
and the family got all upset and sued him and
stuff like that, which I kind of understood, you know,
but but after that then things went weird. It was like, Okay,

(04:49):
now he's like changed everything he's doing. I think really
it was his divorce that messed him up, because once
he wasn't you know, being like every other guy out there,
and he started, you know, running around sleeping with supermodels.
I think it's screwed up his comedy completely, you know,
I think that's what happened. And then he got all
serious and now he's like, oh, you know, I'm ashamed

(05:11):
of having done those things. And now he's like mister
ultraliberal and all about the boot licking, you know. I mean,
he's anti Trump, but he's mister superliberal now, you know,
screaming at people about the vaccine and everything.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
You know, he's trying to overcompensate.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Right, trying to overcompensate for his past you know, political incorrectness.
And you know, I think he's going to retire soon,
is what's going to happen, but kind of about time.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean, and by retire, we mean that X Tent's
going to offer him way a little money and he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, probably because they're paying him like one hundred million
dollars a year from what I.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Understan, Yeah, that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's got to end, because I think he's dropping listeners
like crazy so listen. We got some other callers, so
hang around, Jimmy. Let's see if we can get to everybody,
and we'll get back around everybody who's on the line
best we can. Let's see who we got here. So
you're live. Hey, oh hey, Ken, how you doing? Man?

(06:24):
We're just having a loose talk about weird things. And
Jimmy brought up the Touchstone terrorists and prank calls, so
that was fun for a minute. Yeah, okay, Well, usually
I got to update everybody because they're like, I just
called in, but I wasn't listening. So anyway, how are
you doing tonight? We did cancel the earlier special show,

(06:45):
but we're gonna do it next week early on Friday,
so hopefully I can schedule everybody. But appreciate you listening.
What's on your mind this week? Uh?

Speaker 7 (06:57):
This week? Well, I'm starting a new YouTube channel to
upod Robert Groden's tapes and interviews and where he's on TALX,
those and all. I finally had him say yes to it,
so I have a lot of rare stuff that'll be

(07:21):
like a floating in the next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Nice. So we're gonna have JFK films We're gonna have
JFK films, plus his appearances, plus different snippets of things,
maybe some interviews that he did, you know earlier that
are not necessarily out there. You're gonna mirror it on
more than YouTube though, like put it up on like
other other types of video.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
Uh, I'll be putting it on a YouTube and.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh cool. I had no idea about this, by the way, guys,
so I have no idea what else is going on there.
But uh so it's gonna be mainly the Robert Groden
collection is going to go up on YouTube then so
everybody can view it. Is that about right?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (08:05):
To each point, he's wanting to do something with the
interviews that he did with witnesses. I have them, it's
just he told me to hold off, so I can't
share those at this time. But he's wanting to do
like a BBP thought set that has him.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
All mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Well that should be hopefully I'm coming out in the
next I'm not even sure when, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
With you, Well, it's gonna take organize. Yeah, it's gonna
take a little while to organize. Yeah, because I mean,
does he have video of like the school book depository
workers and stuff that he talked to. Does he have
video of that or can you? Can you even say? What?
Do you?

Speaker 7 (08:51):
He doesn't Most of his interviews with with with people
at park Lynn and people at the pop.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh okay, so a lot of like Parkland witnesses and
then Bethesda witnesses. Yeah nice, Okay.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
Well, then he interviewed like Phil and Willis and his
wife and.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like a few others. But yeah, okay, So he's got
some of the photographic witnesses who like, you know, maybe
took the films or were family along with the people
taking the films, stuff like that. And then and then
he's also got witnesses from Parkland and Bethesda, and he's
got video of all that. Does he have audio stuff?
Do you think you're gonna be able to load up
there too or is it just gonna be all the video? Yes?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Oh, I have several casthettes DHS's stupid VHS as a beta.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh nice, okay, And I.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Have to transfer each and every one of them digital.
I mean at my house, I have his tapes and
some of I'm Larry Howard's.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh now Larry Howard's stuff.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Yeah, And I've been finding some shims.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, well Larry had huh man. Look, Larry did not
get credit for some things that I'm gonna say this
and and I'm not speaking out of school here, and
I don't even ask you to go along with me
on it, ken Ken, but you know what, Larry Howard

(10:29):
had work stolen from him by certain people. And I'm
gonna leave it at that. Yeah, because some people made
good money off of it and Larry didn't. And he
was the one who did the work and I know
that for a fact.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Yeah, so uh it will be so I know exactly
what you're saying, and I.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Agree, Okay, good because uh the stuff I have.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Was given to Robert Thia's widow. Because these aren't any fatter.
This is from I'm Larry Howard's.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Actually, well you know what, I guarantee there's gems in
there because I know what was discussed and there was
supposed to be more things put out there that should
have made it to the conspiracy Museum years ago. A
lot of people don't know this, but there was a
conspiracy museum that was kind of across the street from
or I think it was across the street logistically from

(11:25):
where the book depository museum is now and I think
it was. I actually have a there you go, h
and they used to sell a lot. It was good.
Go ahead, say what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
Okay, it was a it was across the street. It
was in the health.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Building right right now. I I knew that, but it's
like it's vague in my memory now because that was
one of the things. And I think that disappeared in
the nineties or early nineties. Right when did that go out?
When did that disappear?

Speaker 7 (12:07):
I'm not sure, but I do have an original eight
fili theater film that shows it.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Okay, okay, Well it's interesting.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
I'm not exactly sure when it started or when it
or who I'm ran it or what, because I know
in the nineties the the JFK Assassination Information Center was
somewhere else and then it split off. The people both
stuff or just took stuff home. And you and I

(12:41):
both know who they are, so right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
And unfortunately here's what happened though. But at that conspiracy
museum that used to be there, there were items that
were offered for sale and and and sometimes you could
trade for things just saying uh. And they were items
that have seen disappeared, to be honest with you, they
have never been seen again, they have never resurfaced, a

(13:05):
whole bunch of things. In fact, I think the first
copy I got of, like say, Roger Craig's supposedly supposedly
and I'm just gonna leave it at that self authored
short book about what he saw was one of the
things they came through that conspiracy museum. And there was

(13:28):
other items there that you could have only gotten because
of the unique research that was being done by certain
people on the ground there. So we'll leave it at that.
But there was, Yeah, the Larry Howard stuff. I'm real
interested in what it is you're going to dig out
of there, because I'm telling you now, Larry got a
hold of information that even these guys today do not have. Yeah, okay, and.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
Well I found one tape that I had been looking
for on and off for twelve years, and I found it.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Nice.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Well, it has to do with the origin of the
Malcolm Wealthless fiction.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh nice. Well, I look forward to you know, you
and I are gonna you and I are gonna have
time to talk because oh yeah, Ken has given me
the ride to Dallas, So there you go. That's how
that's working. We're gonna have at least twelve hours to
talk to each other, so I hope to find out
more about this. But anything else you want to mention,

(14:33):
I mean, I'm excited to see how long before we're
going to start to see the YouTube channel ken Like
how you got an estimate for your first uploads?

Speaker 7 (14:44):
Probably this week. Okay, However, because I just started it,
it's only letting me do fifteenth minutes, so I have
to upload some of these shorter stuff. But basically the
entire channel is just it's about his work, his fife,

(15:04):
their stuff that's not even on the assassination. There's original
interviews that people haven't seen of him, of him telling
stories about how he saw this when he worked with
the original fixed film and all of it.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Right, Well, i'll give you this if you want. I
think it might be useful to actually go go ahead
and grab the Lancer thing that I did with Robert
a couple of years ago. That might be interesting to
upload there, and you could do that in clips because
that was a pretty basic presentation. And also if you

(15:44):
want to use the show that I think I have
a video version of him and I talking on my
show by all means, go ahead and grab that if
you want to, just use it to bulk out that
time so you can expand from the fifteen minutes you
get upload fifteen minute clips and my stuff, so that
way you're not cutting anything short that you want to
make sure you get the whole thing up, you know,

(16:05):
by all means, well, I appreciate that. Yeah, because this
way it'll you know, the more you put up there
and the more you leave up there and they don't
strike or whatever, you'll be able to expand that time quicker.
So maybe maybe take that and cut it up. That's
what I would do, because you know, my interview with
him is not that big deal, but it would be

(16:25):
a good thing to lead it off just so you
can get the time of lengthened. So there you go,
that's what I would do.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Right, I mean that is yeah, that is not that idea.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Actually, okay, cool, So I'll thank you, no problem at all.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Also, I want you, I want you.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I want you.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
So everyone who is listening, whether it's right now or
in the future, if there is any sort of of
Boss media that people are trying to find and I
can share it, I will share it. I will hunt
for it just thatton what you're looking for.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Mhmm.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
So because I have tons of stuff that I forgot
I had, stuff I know I have, and stuff I
don't know I have. I just I have way too much.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, I know you, I know Jimmy is a Jimmy
is on the line on hold right now, and I
know he's often had questions about a bunch of different films.
So you know what I'm gonna do is I'll put
you guys in touch via email, and uh, you know, Jimmy,
I think you should write write to Ken. I'll send
you Ken's email addressing a little bit when I'm done
with the show, and uh, you you should write to

(17:48):
Ken and see about some of these films that you
had curiosities about, because Ken might have like the original
or a good copy of something that that you might
have wanted to see, and who knows, maybe he could
either add to YouTube or send it to you and
that way you guys could connect and you know, we
get a little bit of advancement here and anybody who's
interested in the JFK stuff. But by all means, if

(18:10):
you want to contact me, that's fine, and I'll put
you in touch with Ken, so that we don't get
any confusion here, but yeah, no problem. Absolutely, I'm more
than happy to connect people, especially when it comes to,
you know, furthering somebody's education or exploration on a on
a topic like this. So anyways, Ken, anything else I mind? Can?

(18:31):
I think I got some other callers and I want
to get back around here.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
You know, the only thing I have is Chuck and
I will be speaking at this year's Take Dancer I'm conference.
We are doing a fifth panel and if anyone is
interested in attending, either in person or virtual, we just

(18:58):
go onto Assassination Conference dot com and use the code
O'Kelly ten for ten percent off.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Appreciate that. Yeah, I actually did mention it at the
beginning of the show, but cool. I'm glad we get
it out one more time. Assassination Conference dot com if
you want to attend in person or virtually, and yes,
indeed ten percent off with o'celly one zero ten, okay
ocelli ten ten percent off. Uh so yeah, use that code,

(19:30):
please do and uh, you know, definitely uh and I'm
looking forward to doing this. It's only a couple weeks
away now because yeah literally yeah, oh wenty first yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
I also wanted to add Roberts Grden will be bringing
original exhibits from the HSDA. Oh, I'll be showing them
to anyone who wants to them.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well, I'm definitely checking in on that because I've always
wanted to take a look at a lot of the
hsc I stuff. And uh, you know, since he was
what did they give him official title was photographic? Uh
well he was a photographic advisor advisor right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Mean like I have like original stuff as well, but
unfortunately I couldn't afford the cases for it. But for
the next year, I plan on doing a small new
theem that is free at the Lancer conferences.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
Some of these are going to be original items like,
uh an original panel or panel, an original picket or
too from the original draft and no fence on top
of one of the polls that held it up, and
just original stuff. There a rich Jack Ruby talkings basically

(21:04):
everything original that I have and that others have that
are willing to to include them in. I just have
to get them cases because there are some researchers, and
I understand it, there's some researchers that when they see
something that is real they'll take a piece of it

(21:26):
off and then taking home. And I want these things
to be like Inmpact as far as I can.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I understand.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Look to this, that's the only reason I'm not having it.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, I understand. And the thing is, look, to this day,
people are still chipping pieces of brick off of the
school book depository. Okay, so they do it. It's it's
not you'll get in trouble if you get caught, but
when people still try.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
It, yeah, yeah, But just over the years, I spend
a lot of time, a lot of money getting these
original items, and I just don't share them. It's not
that I don't want to. It's just I don't want
to be like flashy about it. It's just if you're interested,

(22:16):
I'll share pictures with mesamines and whatever you want. Just
message me. I'm on Facebook, Chuck has my email, so right,
just ask and and yeah, I'll I'll help out in
any way. I am don right if anyone in the
process of physicizing.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Hundreds of stuff, So yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
Have a kyle that I'm doing right now, so certain
things might have to wait.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Fair enough, But look, anybody who you know wants to
get in touch with Ken, let me know, and I'll
be more than happy to connect you with him. He's
been really helpful and open to you know, helping people
learn things about and sharing information and digital copies of
things and what not. He's he's a really good guy
like that. So so you know, I'm more than happy

(23:06):
to connect you with people. I can't promise whatever will
come of it, but you know, you never know. And
but Ken is real helpful and good about it, just
saying for anybody who's listening and wants to get, you know,
more into some of these real items and some of
the real films and some of the real stuff. So Ken,
I'm gonna with that. I'm gonna let you go and
go back around everybody that held on. But I appreciate

(23:29):
you calling in and listening and stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
And you know, next week we'll do that thing a
little earlier in the day than this show, but we'll
do it on Friday, probably starting around five pm Eastern.
I've got Larry Hancock scheduled first, so he was the
first one to respond to me, and hopefully we'll hopefully
we'll get everybody in there. But but but yes, I

(23:52):
couldn't get everybody together all about this.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Well responding to me, and they should have been responding
to you, so right, I figured they'm cocky etmails. Yeah,
one of them ended up having to work, so it's
actually better that would be with next week anyways.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, that's why I decided. You know, look, I couldn't
get everybody all lined up, so we'll do it next week.
But we'll definitely do that and have it should be
at least five of us, well more than just me
forgetting me. There should be at least five guys on
there that'll tell you about stuff that are going to
present and probably you know, look, promote your book, promote
your whatever. Come on for twenty minutes is what I'm offering,

(24:35):
and I figure, you know, why not they should do it,
and hopefully I can organize everybody and get them all
together for next Friday. So between five and eight next Friday,
we'll do the JFK special and I'll also do this
call and show afterwards. But Ken, thanks for calling in,
and jays Man, it's only a little more than two

(24:55):
weeks away. You and I are going to be starting
on our road trip, so get ready for that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Yeah, that'll start the Wednesday store in the conference.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Right, So you and I are going to leave on
like the nineteenth, I guess, yeah, nineteen, I said the
seventeenth earlier. I'm crazy the nineteenth. I'll be leaving around then.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, I think we're leaving the eighth.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Think is it the eighteenth? Wait a minute, No, because
the twenty first is Friday? Yeah, so Thursday's the.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Twentieth okay, right, okay, never mind, it's nineteenth, Chuck is.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Right, Okay, nineteenth, all right, there you go. So on
the nineteenth, I'll be gone and not doing the show
because I'll be on the road starting on the nineteenth,
but just letting everybody know. And then the twenty first
to the twenty third, So twenty one, twenty two, twenty
three right Friday, Saturday and Sunday will be live. But
also there should be another additional day's worth a conference

(25:53):
in just digital form on the website as well. So
just saying you're gonna get about four days worth of conference,
you sign up at Assassination Conference dot com anyway, ken,
you and I'll be in touch this week for sure.
So with that, I'm gonna just let you go and
we'll go back around to whoever else is on the line.

(26:14):
But b pete, you haven't gotten much in here. Anything
you want to mention or go to, or you want
to give us an update on the World Series or
what scores?

Speaker 8 (26:24):
Three one didn't see what inning is. It's in commercial
right now, but.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
That's all I got. The Dodgers are up though, right yeah, yeah,
oh good news. As far as look, I want to
see this go to seven games, so and i'd like
to even catch a little part of it when we're
done here, which we only got ten more minutes left
in regulation time. But I'll go over tonight because I

(26:51):
started a little late as per usual, and you know,
just saying in general, we'll just go over. It's that simple, okay. Anyway,
let me get this out of the way and get
the calls back up. There we go, and uh, Kent,
I know you've been waiting a while. Sorry about that, Kent,
but somebody else wanted to talk a bit, and uh,

(27:13):
we're back to you. What else is on your mind
this week?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah? This is Frank Frank Rizzo. Now how are you
doing this? Chest? You mean to tell you that the
Uncle show ain't out the night I'll wrap your head
on the racket. I'll work circles around you. Hello, sure, sure,
you're not being very helpful. I'm gonna call the police.
Oh man, we should add a round table. You know,

(27:39):
back when you were having that Jerky Boys conversation. Yeah,
I love the Jerky Boys and Jack Hello, Jack TORSA.
Jack Tors calls the uh, the the the the the
mattress store and he's like, be my lover burned it down.
He's he's like, we come out there and test it out.

(28:01):
And the guy's like on the phone, he's like, uh, sure, yeah,
you can come in and lay down on the matches.
He's like, oh, will you be laying down next to me?
Did the best the jerky boy that sir, we can't
test it out with you, but you can lay down
on the matches.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah. And then he goes and he goes, can I
clas can I bring my dogs and have he has
like a bunch of dogs he wants to bring and uh.
The funnier one was to me was on another tape.
And I don't think this was in any movie or anything,
but it was just because there was like the Jerky Boys.
I don't know how many sequels they had in the tapes,

(28:41):
right the albums.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I had the CDs, every one of them, so I've
had every last one of them.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Okay, So you remember the one where he's like, look,
we took a tennis ball machine and we put and
we put potatoes in it. We put potatoes in the
in the tennis ball machine or the pictures and he.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Says, and then we started shooting each other and he,
you know, in the ass, and when he got stuck
and now it's.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Stuck and he's turning all blue. What do I do? What?

Speaker 4 (29:21):
The one from the movie's funny too, when he was
throwing like a sailor or right there, sailor. You know,
you know, it's hilarious. Back in the nineties, it was
especially hilarious, you know, when it was having them like
thirty years ago as well. This was going out with
these crazy jerky boys. The other thing y'all were talking

(29:42):
about Howard Stern. Well, I know a lot more about
Howards during probably anybody on the show, because I grew
up in the Washington area and gave to Burg, Maryland,
and he used to be on DC one on one
there and he that's where he started. He kind of
started him and Robin in fact, my buddy. When I

(30:03):
was twelve, he might have been like thirteen. He was
on the show right there, you know, on the Howard shows,
calling as a kid for some reason, and Howard made
short work of us. But you know, but yeah, then
he moved on to where I miss was whatever that
I forget what they would.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Calling themselves WNBC. He went to WNBC, New York and
that was an AM station on Yep, it was an
AM station in New York, which is where I picked
him up fully because before that, before he had Robin. Okay,
before he had Robin, he was in Rochester, New York,

(30:46):
and uh yeah, yeah, and I caught part of that.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Big break was DC one on one. That's what I
was talking about. I was twelve then you would have
been ten or whatever.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yep, he got on there.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
So yeah, we were kids.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
We were a little kid, right, and he made this.
There was this national TV thing where they were like,
these are shockjocks, these are gross radio people, and Howard
was one of them and it got national attention. And
that's when he was at DC one oh one and
uh yeah, and then they fired him from there and
that's when he ended up at WNBC.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, I got the grease Man, which I know, yeah,
I don't know if you remember the grease Man, but
they got him afterwards. He never made it like big,
like Howard Hard went on w JF.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I'm the greesh Mayer. I remember that guy. It's horrible.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
He had his own little way of things. He's kept.
He's plenty of times Devil went down to Georgetown seeing
much food. You get back. You know, he's got his
songs and he got all this stuff going on by it.
But Howard just branched because he became a celebrity even then,
you know, nineteen eighty nine, you know, nineteen ninety, Yeah,
he was like the heavy metal guy, the rebel and everything.

(32:02):
He hung out with Alice Cooper and all this stuff,
and you know, he folded us for about ten years.
The next ten years through the nineties, and in the late nineties,
I was starting to phase out. I got tired. He
got a divorced with Alison, you know, his first wife,
and all that trashy talked about going out and picked.
You know, he goes he's gonna go sleep with Terry

(32:22):
Hatcher and all this stuff. None of that came about.
He got he moked and then the show got weak,
and then he got hooked up with a new girl
right away, Beth I think is their name, and then
marry her and then you know, by then the show
got weak, weaker than ever, and I stopped around the

(32:43):
nine to eleven times. I stopped even checking him out.
Right after XM Radio, I didn't have XM Radio, and
I was already faded out with him. And then he
became today popular. Now he's like the view. He's like
you know, Whoopie and Joy Bahart, He's he's that caliber

(33:03):
celebrity now just a joke, stupid, Yeah, but he's lost
the tons he got out of it. Jeez, you know
what it was, ed he lost his edge a long
time ago, right what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
But he had like, say, forty million subscribers on XM serious,
you know, serious before XM merged with it, and he
had like forty million people that literally signed up just
because he was going to it. He was still big
at that point.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, I mean we were die hard fans of his
at the time. We didn't like, you know, man, count
anybody he didn't like we didn't like. I mean, we
like the hardcore fans I remember growing up, you know,
going through my twenties, you know, at work listening to
Howard Stern all the time and like people didn't like it,
but whatever, yep. And then the other one who listen
to Rush Limbaugh, you know, and then g Gordan Leady

(33:51):
would come on after Howard Stern and I used to
listen to Lyddy after that. But that's what I got conservative,
and I didn't know any better. Yeah, I see started
me into the hole and eventually watching Fox News. I
listened to him all that until I finally broke out
of that about twelve years ago. But anyway, I listened
to a lot of Howard joke for a long time.
And you have a serious joke now, I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
See. I listened to a lot of talk radio. I
even went and met with G. Gordon Liddy. I met
him when he was doing that radio show in DC
mal mal call oh man, it's so funny because the HBO,
well HBO did that like movie not too long ago,
and they had a guy playing him, and I swear

(34:35):
to god, it was like that guy is dead on
the guy I met like he is. Definitely he did
a good job. The actor who was playing G. Gordon
Liddy in that HBO special it was really good. Well,
if you have.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
You actually listened to this show, you should definitely know
what mail call Mayo call is. Oh yeah, yeah, he
used to do that every show. Yeah no, I know that,
And yeah I like Lyddy, but now I don't agree.
Is like all the craft that he used part of
you know, he did.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
But it was you know what, but I yeah, no.
But back then listening to Rush Limbaugh a long time. Yeah, well,
listening to Rush Limbaugh and people like that was a
little different back then too, because you know, he was
doing like the the the Spotted Owl update and he'd
played chainsaws because they were supposed to be cutting down
the woods, you know, where the Spotted Owl was, and

(35:26):
then he did you know, and in Feminazi news, you know,
and stuff like that. Limbaugh was different.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, I didn't like him, but I liked Lyddy so
even then, so I had my flags going, I got you,
but it was a different thing. I was just you know, kids, man.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, I would listen to Howard Stern in the morning.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
How he's a complete joke right now he's like you
put him up on the view.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, now his time is is pretty much over. With
I think, but you know, but then again, look the
guy's still respect then, but listen, respect or not. He's
been pulling a hundred million dollar contracts for what twenty years,
So it's not like he's gonna go hungry if he quits.
He's fine, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Oh absolutely, So you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
And he made a lot of money. That was the
whole thing about his governor's He tried to run for
governor in New York and he was on the Libertarian ticket.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
He didn't want to give out his money.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
That was the whole thing. Financial disclosure. Nope, I'm not
doing it. So he had to drop out. It was
just that simple. So yeah, he didn't want to disclose
his money. You know.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, he was making a lot. I mean, and just
like his his comedy was really funny back then. Like
you think about nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, Sam Kennison's
still around, you know, Andrew dice Clay is still around.
You know, well he's still around, but he's not irrelevant
at this point. But just back into the bon Jovie

(37:00):
and all the metal guys were you know this, you know,
Sam Kennis and everybody it was like every it was
like cool back then, everyone was chill, and he was
part of that. You know, he was definitely part of that.
And uh, you know he was the rebel guy, spoke
out whatever. He was married, but he's he's flirts with
all the girls. That was great and it lasted for

(37:21):
a good long time. But then you just started seeing
like for what he really is. You know, well, he's
just a fag.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
A fraud.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
In between when he when he.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Right now he's sold out to the liberal ship, lib media.
You know, the same guy, you know, the same you know, Joy,
they are type, but in between may different than Joy
they are now.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, exactly, but in between when he got divorced and
when you know, in between that and Beth, which, like
you said, it wasn't a long time but for a
quick minute, then he's going on his show talking about
like all these supermodels he's hanging out with and banging
him whatever, and like literally, you know, nobody could relate
to that. Now, you know, they could relate to the guy.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
But I mean no, I heard differently that like if
he actually did that, then okay you're talking about and
you actually did it. But I when I was listening.
I never heard him say that. What I heard was,
you know all this talk all those years, and I'm
going to be with Terry Atcher, I'm gonna get this girl.
I'm gonna get that girl. You know, all these super
hotty celebrities. And then he you know that, and then
he's all quiet for a while. You know the reason

(38:28):
why it seemed like he was quiet for a while.
And then the reason why I never heard that he
was out. Yeah, and then he got with death said,
I don't know, dude, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
First of all, he just seemed like, well he never
was like a player. He always ragged and that's fine,
but don't still pretend to be one. But I don't
know what he was like. You heard a show where
he was saying he has been with a bunch of
hot you know. Uh, I tell you girls, I'm sure
he's had a couple he introduced or whatever meant, but
I don't think he was really playing the field.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Well I'll tell you, well, I'll tell you what he
was doing is I went right over to xm C.
Like I went over and got a serious radio as
soon as he went over. So I was still listening
to that. Plus I lived in that area, so I
knew people, and he was going to like, you know,
the big time expensive places to eat and you know,

(39:22):
and and stuff like that and going out to the clubs.
He started doing it and actually showing up places where
he hadn't before because he used to just you know,
make his uh whatever every few months trip to the
one strip club before that, and it became, you know,
part of the show. But he started actually going out
to the clubs and doing all that stuff, and that's
when it kind of he lost a lot of people

(39:44):
because it was sort of like, dude, I you know,
I can't imagine going out and complaining that my limo driver,
you know, didn't have my you know, car ready for me.
I mean, you know, dude, what are you talking about.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Ronnie the limo driver. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, and there's another guy who was like, you know.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
I remember the show, Yeah, Rodney the limo driver.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So anyway, the point is, but he didn't do.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
That very long. I mean, he's been the thing. You know,
he sound like he couldn't wait to be single again,
and then he was miserable and he was doing this
stuff trying to like, like I don't know, you got
to understand the guy. He was never he was never cool.
He was never like really like wanting to be attention
except for when he's doing his show. Yeah right, other

(40:28):
than that, like he's at the club. He didn't want
to be at the clubs. He didn't want to do.
I mean, you know, you know, two decades of that dude,
I kind of got him figured out. You know, No,
I got it just by pattern or lifestyle. So he
didn't like being single. He had to be he had
to get hitched again.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
No, he was only like the only.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Way he knew it.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, he was only like a year single in playing.
Really that was it, like one year after complaining for
thirty you know, complaining.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
And yeah, so again, like I didn't expect him to
go out and just hit everything that he said he was.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Going to do.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
But you know, he was kind of you know, we
kind of already knew what he was. He was getting
weaker than too, the older he got, and that he
wasn't even that old then he won't. I don't even
think he was forty yet.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Well, but that's what he was.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Maybe he's forty something.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
That's the thing though, the guys I mean in his seventies, right,
so he's in his seventies. How shocking do you want
him to be? Now? You know that's the other thing.
So you know, I think it. I think it's done,
you know what I mean. It's just I mean, I'm
in my field.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Shocking he's gonna be. I mean, do you ever see
him interview Kamala Harris for Kamala Kamala Harris?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't know, did.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
He He's all dressed up, that's all on YouTube. He's
all dressed up, and he was just like all perfect manners.
You know, I didn't see any of those law uh
you know, lesbian mud wrestlers running around and there. You know, yeah, no,
you know they're all on their their their game. You
know this is going to be our next press, isn't it?

(42:01):
And just all these weak questions. He asked, what happened
to that rebel? He's long gone? Yeah, that rebel has
been gone for decades. That's what I'm trying to tell people.
If that's as far as Howard Stern goes, fair enough,
And I know because I've watched him for years and
just you know, we've been around over fifty years, you know,
Chuck so we've seen him, we know radio, we've seen

(42:22):
him come and go. Right, that's that's that's what happened
to that guy. Absolutely anyways, Yeah, now he's Joy Bahard.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Might as well be exactly exactly so uh and I'll
tell you I found it weird looking at Robin recently
on there, like she's got weird hairdus going on. I
didn't listen to any of it, but I look just
caught some of the pictures and I'm like, man, this
is getting like kind of weird looking. Everything's they're they're
a little too old to be doing the shockgock thing.
So I'm thinking he's got to retire soon. Anyways, Jimmy James,

(42:53):
you got something else other on your mind? You did
definitely start something with the Jerky Boys, but h and
everything else. But what else on your mind? Man? Before
we're done tonight?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
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Speaker 1 (43:14):
Okay, well, I guess we could probably. I don't know,
be Pete, do you want to hang around for another
hour or do you want to hang around for a
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I lose be Pete? I'm here. Okay, Sorry, I thought

(43:36):
I lost you there. You want to hang around for
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Speaker 8 (43:40):
Can't do an hour. I can do a little bit,
but I've got stuff I got to get up early.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
And do in the morning.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
All right, no problem. You know what we'll do. We'll
take a quick break here, all right, and I'll come
right back to Jimmy when we come back from the
break and uh, because I just want to pee real fast, actually,
So that's what we'll do, okay. And meanwhile, you guys
listening out there, well we'll just hang on for a
little bit and see what else we can get to.

(44:09):
I got callers on the line. Still. No, Aaron is
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wants to do that thing with the kids and all.
I can't blame him. I really wish he had done
last week, but I guess he had something else going
on there. And look, life gets in the way. You know,
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Okay, everything's got to get in my way. When I'm
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Speaker 1 (55:13):
Later anyway, Thank you very much. My co host departs
and I appreciate you man. We'll do this again next week,
you know, and maybe I'll you know, I don't know
what kind of shape I'll be in after I do
that other show. But I appreciate you and thank you
for doing this with me all the times that you do.
I appreciate it. Man. Okay, you guys have a good
one anyhow, So there goes Bpete And now you guys

(55:37):
on the phones only have to deal with me. Uh
three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
We'll continue it on for a couple of minutes. Now,
you mentioned, you know, the donation over at ochelly dot com.
I know there was a mention of a donation earlier,
but apparently I don't think that's gonna come through. So
the thing is, uh yeah, I really wish it would

(55:57):
and anything would, because yeah, I'm on a string most days,
so you know, it is what it is. I appreciate
all you guys who keep us going. And you know,
Jimmy James has done it many times, you know, and
Vpete who just left, has done it many times. And
I appreciate all you guys who do so. And I
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(56:19):
listen to the complaints or suggestions of people who do
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You know, so if you appreciate what this this show does,
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(57:03):
you know, here, I am just trying to get by,
just like all of us, and we are all suffering.
I got to tell you still, I think the residual
effects of what we're seeing with this government shutdown are
going to be much larger over the next thirty sixty
and ninety days. So anybody who's hurting now, I think
we're gonna be hurting worse. And if you're not and

(57:24):
you have the ability to contribute, to you know, somebody
like myself, or look, man, you don't want to help me, fine,
but help somebody if you can. Because there's gonna be
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help somebody you happen to see. It's the only way
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a lot of people are going to starve and lose things.
It's just the way it's going to be. So help somebody.

(58:10):
You don't want to help me, help somebody else. What
can I say? So with that, I said I would
get right back to Jimmy. I'm going to do that,
and I might just open it all up if anybody
else wants to join though. We're running overtime here. Three
one nine, five two seven five zero one six. I
am tired. I got a headache, but I'll keep going
if you guys want to keep participating. Three one nine

(58:32):
five two seven five zero one six. That's the number
to join this, Jimmy James. We'll get you back on.
There you go, Jimmy. So I needed that break because
I had to pee for starters, but secondly I was
trying to organize things and uh yeah, anyway, here we are,
still going. What else is on your mind? Brother?

Speaker 3 (58:54):
I'm perplexed.

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I thought we're gonna do another hour. I thought that
was the plan.

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Well, BPTE had to go, and I'm already well how
far are we into the hour? Let's see, we're twenty
one minutes deep into the ten to eleven hour, still going,
what's up?

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I appreciate that somebody else assured me that earlier, but
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Dose Diego's Foundation. Did I get it right?

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The Dose Diego's Foundation. Okay, I have no idea what
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Ah, okay, well it's the floors yours, do do it?
Do what you want?

Speaker 11 (01:00:47):
Well, I'm seeing a lot of problems with the assassi relations.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Uh, the research community, you mean that's where.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
What's this?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
The research community? You mean as far as the assassination.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Goes, No, the event, I'm just stiffing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Oh if I could suck. It's occurs to me that
I just looked at the total.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Of history of the country, and I really.

Speaker 11 (01:01:18):
Think that no wrong assassination, the Lincoln assassination.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I just think that that is where a thing to
an entirely.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Hmm. Well, you're not the only guy to ever say
that there is something to it where a lot of
people think. I mean, of course that was a slightly
different situation because there was a coordinated effort to murder
a whole bunch of people in the government all at once. There. Uh,
you're well aware of that, right, I mean the there

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was a coordinated attack not just against Lincoln but against
various cabinet members, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Well, yes, it was a criminal conspiracy, same as the
JFK situation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Well, except that we charged it as a criminal conspiracy.
And in the case of the JFK assassination, there has
not been a properly held trial and the only trial
that's been held to try and hold a conspiracy accountable
on the assassination is Garrisons as far as I know. Uh,
And there you go. And I'm not saying that was
properly done, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
That's true Garrison. That was one of the churches that
he had against crazy Shaw. Yep, and the jury, if
you recalled.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
That was pulled by Mark Wlaane said yes, we do
believe there was a conspiracy, and we had the way
to vote on that. We would have all voted on that,
right if they didn't Shaw was involved in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't know. But back to the Lincoln situation, exactly
as you said, this was chucked literally attempted a coke
coup deta correct, had they successfully took out Stewart Seward?

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And the vice president Johnson? Do you know where Johnson
was during the Lincoln assassination?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Chuck?

Speaker 16 (01:03:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I believe he was in a rooming house? Or am
I mixing him up with Seward? Now you're correct.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Seward was at home and he was already kind of
messed up from a carriage accident which was suspicious.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Right, he was laid up from a previous situation. Yeah, okay,
he was at home. But Johnson was in the rooming
house then, right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Uh? Yeah, if you want to call horror house a roomy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
House, I'm going with the newspaper account at the time. Yes,
but you're correct.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Now let's stick with finger check.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yes, I will, I will. You're right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Who's the who whom he was with?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Oh? Uh man, she's related to somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
I'll just tell you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
No, no, no, no, that's a different whore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Oh I got my hooker, Rick Stubber.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
We'll get to her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Okay, sorry, good, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
No, this was this was a pro a professional okay,
rather famous name fallas star Flas Star.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Now guess who now? Guess who her pick was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Well, you just told me one thing I didn't know already,
So tell me where pimp was I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Okay, pimp was named and but and their pimp slash
boyfriend John Wilps booth. Oh okay, and not for nothing,
but that's in writing. We have a letter from Johnson writing,
Joe John Wilp Spoof, thank you very much for helping

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me in this matter for cure uh situation there. Okay,
so you got that situation and the guy that was
downstairs in the boarding house who was drinking just chicken
out and took off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
So clearly Bellistar and that guy were.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
If things would have went as a planned, Jackson would
have been gone, Stewart would have been gone, Lincoln would
have gone right, and there was no con plans beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
That, right, Yeah, they would have to be clear.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I have no problem saying that the Confederacy was behind
and committed that assassination.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Yeah, absolutely. And but that's the thing is that it's
a well documented court. I didn't know one of the
facts there that you had. But uh, but I know
that Johnson was being set up, and I knew that
they were related to somebody somehow, but I didn't. I didn't.
I thought it was a blood relation. But obviously I'm
wrong about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
There is an entirely different issue that we got to
get to. That's also a real mind bender that blows
my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
But go ahead, Oh no, go ahead, please tell me
because I fill us in. It's been a long time
since I studied this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
So yeah, it's just I just can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
And well, yeah, I do believe it actually pretty easily anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
What it's like days have all over again?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
All that anyways, another fascinating little aspect that is absolutely true.
Don't have people's check your wikipedies. Okay, so I know
the situation you're thinking of. So it just so happens
that at the time one of the big Whig senators.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Was a man by the name of Nathan hale.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
If who had a daughter named what was that tramp's name? Now? Whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Was it? Missy or Melissa? No?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Uh, wellgo was Shane A. Hale Okay, okay, he'll.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Come to me anyways, Nah should remember it's kind of
pace some hail and crying out. One second. I want
to get this exactly correct, because this is fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Let me take a look at Let me just go
go do a quick search, see if I can find well,
it's just bubba bu Okay, wow, this is totally not
what I was looking for. But anyway, let me see

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if I can find uh, oh, Lucy Lambert.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Hail Lucy Hale.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Then go, yes, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Okay, Chuck, so check her? All right, check this out,
young Lucy Hale. Guess who she was engaged to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
I'm gonna take a while guess and say either John
Wilkes Booth or his brother.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Well, guess what, Huck, what she was at deed engaged
to two men, John Wilkes Booth, yes, but also Abraham
Lincoln's son, Robert Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Nice. See it makes it even weirder that whole situation where, uh,
you know, the booth kid saves the booth saves the
Lincoln's kid from getting hit by the train. There was
a lot of proximity going on here, you know, that
whole weird factoid.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Right, all right, check this out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
How was it the Booth kept shadowing Lincoln? How did
he kept knowing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Where he was?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
All right, check this out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
You know there's a photo wrap with John Wolfs Booth
and Lincoln's inauguration, right, how did he get there? Well,
Lucy Hale got him the ticket to go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Dunt dun dun ah. There we go. See that whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Is he actually no?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
How did he actually know that Lincoln was going to
be at.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
That crazy theater that evening? Who could announced such a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Don't dun dun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
See. It kind of makes sense because Okay, his wife
is going crazy, right, Mary Todd Lincoln is going crazy,
so he's out like maybe checking out the old girlfriend's
going How about I get something going with somebody else,
cause I'm not banging the crazy lady, right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
No, no, no, no no no no no, Chuck, Chuck Chuck.
It wasn't old Abe. It was his son, Roberts Lincoln.
And oh, okay, man was engaged to Lucy Hell.

Speaker 14 (01:11:05):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Lucy Hell was also massinger around with John Wilkes Boot. Okay,
she could commit She was seating literal information from the
president's son and passed on it off to John Wilkes Booth.
This is what I'm saying, This is what that crazy
secretary of War shirt believed. I'm just put I'm just

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curious what people have to say about that. I mean
I think it's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
No, I think it's rather fascinating and leads to an
interesting thing because one of the soldiers who was at
the fort, you know, where they hung the original conspirators
and then they captured like another five and they put
him in jail and they let him go. They did
not put him to death. You know about that, right,
the second group they caught, which included Mary Sarratt and

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all that, they didn't put him to death. And one
of the soldiers at the fort wrote that if they
did so, it would be like unending because they were
going to just have to keep hanging people because the
conspiracy was so large that they were just going to
keep having to capture and hang people, like after they
interrogated these people before they hung them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
You know, So that was Are you used to talking
about some of the people that were supposed to be
garden Lincoln that were compromised, Well, what you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
They would have been more people that would have been
hung as part of the conspiracy. Yes, That's the thing
is there were so many people in the yes, people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
That were literally working for the confatracy, those guys that
were around Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Uh, well, there's that too. Yes see, that's the whole thing.
This was all about decapitating the government completely. So that yeah,
we come back around with still win.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Yeah, absolutely day one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
How did they not win Day one? The South one?
Oh sure we won on paper, but crazy Johnson became president.
He pardoned the whole South and things, basically everything that
would have happened probably in the previous sectary excuse me,

(01:13:25):
the eighteen hundreds was retarded for one hundred years progress.
I swear to god, things would have been completely different
for the South, the Blacks, everyone, if Abe Lincoln would
not have been blown away.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I can't argue with you what you yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Good, that's not true because there's some people like, for
some reason Donald Jeffries disagrees with me, and thanks for
some reason, Abe Lincoln was a bad guy with I
just can't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
I think he's being awful up on core old day.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Well, I think, okay, I'll tell you this about Lincoln.
I think that some people make him a little more
of a hero than he is. But I think that
you know, once again, history changes judgments on people, and
it's usually not fair. You know what I'm saying. Like
to consider some of the stuff that Lincoln did. If

(01:14:28):
you want to get down to it, you could say, look,
Lincoln suspended a whole bunch of your constitutional rights and
this and that he did. He can't argue that he didn't.
But considering the circumstance and considering what he had to
work with, what else was he supposed to do? You know?
That's my argument with Lincoln is you know, you might

(01:14:50):
not like everything he did, but quite factually, what was
his other options? I don't think he had good options
outside of what he did. That's what the deal is there,
as far as I'm concerned. And that's where you know,
a guy like Jefferies will sit there and say, oh,
you know, but dude, what else were you supposed to do?

(01:15:13):
You know, you had a hostile force still there, pretty
pissed that they had been you know, degradated by degraded,
degradate whatever you want to say. Okay, well, I don't
know which word I'm reaching for here, but basically they
had been demoralized. That's probably a better word, you know,
and they're still here. They were not letting that go.

(01:15:36):
How are you going to manage that circumstance any other way?
That's you know, there was a lot of rough things
that were done. And yeah, they're soldiers that went through
and burned things, and you know, and a lot of
stuff happened there that was rough. I'll tell you what, though,
the unwritten wars that went on in this country over
things like tobacco farms and everything else, we're just as brutal,

(01:16:02):
you know. And those were corporate funded wars. You know,
they literally hired half of the tobacco growers to murder
half of the other tobacco growers in Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
I mean, you know, I'm not gonna get into that
controversial re history stuff that gets a little crazy. I
think first we need to do with the Civil War, okay,
which is sad enough. I'm I'm at the point where
I don't even know who the devil's buried in the

(01:16:34):
booths grave. Could someone please check the DNA? The families
already agreed to it. The Park Service is the problem,
quite frankly. Can we dig up JFK and have him
ultrasounded and all that and make a three day image
and then no one once and for all how many

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people shot him? Because that would answer the question, well,
you know what, it just wouldn't be any question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Now, there have been people making that argument for years.
I don't know if doctor Stars is still alive, but
doctor starrs made the best compelling case for we could
just solve this whole thing by doing that. In two
thousand and three, he was making that case. So you know,
I don't object to that. And you know, how do
you feel about these like, because I've read these theories

(01:17:27):
about Booth having survived, you know, and having gone on
to do this and that. And the third thing, what
do you think of all those You know, the guy
continued to survive and changed his identity and became you know,
this other guy, And what do you think of all
those two?

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Here's where I fall That's right, this is where I
fall on people like John Wilkes. Booth made off hy.
These people caused great, great, great.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Issues, and yet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Nobody's okay. So to me, no resolution, no proof. I'm
funny like that. And as far as John looks, Booth,
you know, weird thing like you say, there was these
four people. They all claimed to be relatives, they all
had the family lure. Well guess what three didn't check out?

(01:18:24):
They weren't squat But number four was it that saded
a boot.

Speaker 7 (01:18:31):
Oops.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Now, other people have said, well, he could have been
having kids before the assassination. Could be, I assume, but
what you know what, I'd really like to know it
for sure personally.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
No, I'm with you, I'll tell you something else. This
is why a lot of people still ask questions about
ben Laden. You know that, because they buried him at sea, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I don't blame them, I guess because I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Told where's the body? You see again? He got another
right historical villain nobody you know, and whatever it is
they dug out of that burnt down barn.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Yeah, I'm with you. I think that somebody ought to
test that and make sure that that is who they
say it is, because you know, there have been people
who claimed that that guy lived for many years after.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Right into the like into the nineteen hundreds, which would
be obscene.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Well, I mean there was a lady, even with a diary,
who claimed to have married him, right, and we didn't
see the diary until like, you know, twenty years ago
or whatever. But do you remember that whole issue too.
This lady was like, yeah, I married him. His name
was you know, she gave some weird name. He was
you know, I forget what it was, but it was
sort of like James Colorado or something, and he was

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named after a state I think the the guy that
she married, And later on in her diary she says,
I suspect that this is John Wilkes Booth right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, that one particular I may not have heard. But
you know, all I could say is I can't disprove
squat and so I know who the devil's in the
ground down there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yeah, let's start there and then.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Figure out once and for all, because there's things that
we can solve and know and I just can't understand it,
especially now when nobody has zero confidence in the government
at all, any of it. The bureaucracy they hate it,
the Congress, they hate it, the president and they're kind

(01:20:53):
of half and half evidently.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Yeah, that's apparently once again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Half and half again, you know whatever. Uh, the media,
everyone agrees that's the forest and they hate it. Okay,
you want to start gaining credibility, Let's start, you know,
forming a foundation of truth. You can't build, you know,
Lincoln himself, you can't build a house divide it cannot

(01:21:20):
stand well, neither can a house built down a foundation
of Horsetum.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Really true enough, all true, Jimmy, I agree with you.
So let's see here do we still have Let me
let me check the phone lines. I'm talking to you
and forgetting I'm gonna put Kent on with you and
let the two of you talk for a bit and uh,
and then we'll probably close it out after a little
bit here. So Ken hanging around. I got you back

(01:21:48):
on so you can talk to Jimmy. You and Jimmy
are both on, okay, So whoever else joins in, I'll
let him. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
What's up? Spec?

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Can newsen? Them Dodgers winning there?

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Last I heard they were up three to one. I
think VPTE gave that uh gave that score up. But
I can check real quick with this right here, I
will have it in the second it's still three and
one at the bottom of the eighth.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yep, the Dodgers look like they might pick up.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Yeah, they got get out of the eighth piers and
they'll go to the ninth and they'll bat and they
add to the lead or just keep it and then
they'll put their closure in at the bottom of the
knife to take out Toronto and Toronto and we'll tie
the series. Yep, the one the game rally. That's what

(01:22:46):
they want to do there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
They Yeah, they're one inning away from tying the series
right now the way the way, I'm looking at the
update from MLB dot com and uh yeah, that's where
it's at. Jeez, there's only one out in the eighth,
that says here, and they got a run around second. Okay,
so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
I guess it's only one out in the eighth. Yeah,
they got to run, that's what I'm saying. That's where
they get dangerous. It's stuff like this could be the
beginning of the end for l A.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Well, I sure will.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Just how they do it, I said in the later endings,
they get they get the starters out of there, they get
their bullpen in there, and then they start getting their hitters,
start hitting against their your opponents, their opponent's bullpen and
in this case it's it's La And then they start
getting some runs. They get on base, they move the ball,
they start playing small ball. This is what Toronto's been doing.

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This is why they're super successful. And uh then then
you know, you got a three to one lead. Next
thing you know, they they win the game four to
three in nine innings because they come back right around.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Is that Ken trying to get the question or comment?
And Ken, are you there?

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Is that you?

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
Yeah, I'm just seeing what they did to us and
the Mariners when they played.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I'm sorry, Bud, I didn't mean spend Kent. This is
Kennon in the Lanting Sun.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Just you and spent Kent. We didn't get the guy
from Florida tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
No I thought I heard him. Ah man, I must
be hearing things. But my only complaint uh toward the Dodgers.
And I'm like, it's spent Kent's comment on this. I
think it's pretty disrespectful for them to be seating Sandy
Colfax behind the big royal family of Canada.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
This is whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
You don't like where Sandy Kofax is sitting in the stadium. No,
I do not, Okay, Colfax, I'm just kid.

Speaker 17 (01:25:00):
Behind Prince State, Prince Magan Marple or whatever she is.
Nobody sits in front of Sandy Kolffacs in the Dodger's game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Aren't you out of your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Why almost disrespect.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
I gotta agree with you. Ken, Wait a minute, I
gotta agree with you, Ken, because what the hell, why
why is making Markle even there? It sit her in
the nosebleeds. I got no use for this woman. She
don't need to be on camera. I thought they wanted
their privacy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Games. Uh yeah, I can't puss with our Ray's just
Sandy Colfax. Shouldn't sit behind no man, not at the
Dodgers game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
No, I agree with you, Smien kid.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
I didn't even see that. So it's funny though, I
can imagine. Oh boy, well he's getting the big honor
to sit there in the Canadians.

Speaker 12 (01:25:59):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
So now they got two runners on.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
One going on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Yeah, uh oh, the Blue Jays got two runners now
with one out.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
That is how they do it. That's just what I'm saying.
This is what gets dangerous there up against the bullpit.
Now they can just get out of this inning, you know,
get up in the next end of the ninth, try
to score some runs into the top of the ninth,
then get to the bottom Knight put their closer in.
LA might tie it up and go to Game seven.
But this is how they get dangerous. Here about Toronto, Well,

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they did us and the Mariners. I'm very familiar with
all this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Okay, but now they got two outs, so I'm hoping
they get out of this inning because I don't want
to see him.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
They add a double play, because that's the other thing
they do. You start getting runners on the base, their
defense always pulls up these double plays. That's what was
happening to us. We have lots of runners on the bass.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Well, the Dodgers are pretty dimmer.

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
They're guys get on they score well.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
From what I understand, the Dodgers are pretty good at
getting the double play too, So I'm hoping that that's
exactly what they get here, like that kind of situation
where they got to, you know, fielder's choice and can
get somebody out.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
We're all good to getting the double play. But Toronto,
I'm just saying, this is what they did to us
as Mariners. Right now they're going against the Dodgers, so
we'll see. You know, we were one win away with
these guys. We were up three too, like they are now.
Now the Dodgers could come back win this game, you know,
or you know they're gonna win this if they win

(01:27:34):
this game tied up going to Game seven, win that game,
win the World Series. That's what I expect to happen.
But this is it, like right now, the bottom of
the eighth what's going on with runners on base? With Toronto,
this is dangerous, dangerous territory because they can get in
with a striking distance and then either way, any any

(01:27:56):
kind of momentum drives them into the bottom of the ninth. Yeah,
they're gonna bring be able to Elie's gonna be able
to bring their closure in. I don't know who their
closure is, but you know, whenever you bring a closure in,
that's usually it. But it's just Toronto. This is their
their their life and the World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
And well they brought in uh the other night, they
brought in a really at all. Yeah, they brought in
a really hard throwing kid, uh like a young closer
to try and close it out, and Toronto started beating
up on him and that's how they they They lost
that one game. I think that was the game Otani started,

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And yeah, they wound up losing it because their their
closer didn't hold. So hopefully, hopefully that doesn't happen again. Oh,
I think they just made the third out, so that
takes care of the eighth inning and we go to the.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Night eight right now, because yeah, I'm saying I just
see that my scores, it's three one still the top
of the Knights is going into which is good for
LA because now they can have a chance to add
to the lead. If not, then they bring in their
clothes at the bottom of the ninth, right, that's what's
about to happen. So they they got out of the

(01:29:12):
eighth inning, and that's a huge you know, let's see it.
Let's see it happen. Let's see LA win this game
and and go on to the game seven and actually
upset them there and when the when the series, well, indeed,
that back to back World champions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Indeed, that's what I'm hoping they do.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
Yeah, I mean too though I don't want to see
them back to back World champions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
I'm usually I'm just because I don't want to vote.
I don't want to root for Toronto.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Well, look, I'm usually not for the back to back
World champion thing either. But again, when you got a
team with the Otani and uh and and that uh
what Yamamoto on it, I mean, dude, you kind of
deserve it. I mean, so you know what I mean,
I don't have an objection to that. That's that's probably
the greatest player in a generation on that team, plus

(01:30:02):
a hell of a pitcher. I mean, just those two
guys alone play. I mean the whole rest of the
team solid too. So they kind of you know, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
They're world champion, defending world champions. They look like they're
the defending world champions, and they look like they're about
to be ye know, they could possibly be world champions again,
back to back. But you know, they still got to
finish this one out and win another one. They're finishing
this one out eight over yet. It might be up
to bat now, but but you know, Toronto gets to

(01:30:32):
come back up again. It's only a three to one lead,
and Toronto knows the way, they know ways to bury
three one leads, right, hey, they could next to you know,
they're up to five to three, right, you know, and
that could happen. I mean, it could happen tonight. I
don't think it will, I hope not. Like you said,
but are we on tabling it or what? Is that

(01:30:52):
what Jimmy wanted to do for the rest of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
That's what we got here. You're both on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
The group and now I got another one next issue.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
The NBA scoundrel.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Oh man, my take might amazed everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Hold on, I haven't gotten my take.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
It's gonna shock people, probably because o't what's where things
could set words Lucy goosey words. He said, you could
sue the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
Next pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
I looked at this whole MBA situation.

Speaker 18 (01:31:31):
I looked at the charges and if if every bit
of that is proven absolutely true and afford aloge all
except for one thing, which I.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Will get to, I don't give a crap. I don't
see no major wolf here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Means they played poker for two years a seven million
dollars changed. Uh okay, Well, no one's gonna like to
hear this, but quite honestly, I was in a game
where in one hand I see hundreds of thousands of

(01:32:12):
dollars pass hands. I'm honestly shocked at that's all. They
took him for seven million. Gosh, the so called mob
a lot nicer than the Indian casinos.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Anyways, the one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Thing because of that move that if true, the one
thing that does buggle is Chauncey Billets. If he really
did throw that game against the bulls, then I do
think that he should be banned from the NBA for life.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
And that's and I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Just anyone I would like to hear what anyone else says.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
No, I got you. Look, I was a dealer in
a game once where I saw a house get put
up on the table, right, I mean a house in Jersey,
which at the time was Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I've seen houses. I've seen car titles, I've seen a
list of substances. I've seen gold, silver women.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Oh yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Now just leave it there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
I'm just saying I was a dealer once in a
game where yet a house ended up on top of
the pot just to cover the bet from the other guy, right,
And uh yeah, the guy did. The house didn't change hands.
But I dealt those cards. I thought I was gonna
get killed. You know, it wasn't my fault, you know,

(01:33:43):
I didn't. I didn't do anything with the cards. I
honestly dealt them. And somebody had to explain that to
somebody who dropped a lot of cash on that one hand.
But for a minute there things got tense. I'm just saying, so, no,
I'm not all that pressed by the poker games. But
you're right, if somebody turns around and you know, goes

(01:34:03):
and blows you know, a professional sporting game because they
owed some money or something. Yeah, you know, that's the
whole thing with Pete Rose is show me the proof
that this guy blew a game or blew anything, you know,
didn't try because he owed money or something. Show me
that and then maybe I'll listen to you. You know

(01:34:26):
what I mean? Oh, what happened here? What is going
on with my baseball ticker here? Something strange has happened, folks.
Let me reload this because all of a sudden, I

(01:34:50):
saw two outs and where are we at here? Let's
see top of the ninth, two outs? Okay, it looks
like the Dodgers not making any top of the knife Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
Yeah, so they're gonna bring their closure in the last
you know, you know, next and uh, I hope they
can force a game seven.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
That's what I'm hoping for. But you know, they're making it.
They're kind of giving me a little nail bier here
because two runs is not that much for Toronto to
make up quick, so you know what I meant.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
But they you know, they they're closures are also closures,
you know by the time. Those guys are unheadable. So
I know they have a good closer. I don't know
the names, I forget, but no, they have a good closure,
pretty good bullpen everything.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
So I'm pretty sure they're closer.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
They're up for ee to one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
I'm pretty sure their closer is one of those fireballers
that you know gets up around one hundred and four,
you know when he when he cuts completely loose. Which
is another amazing thing about this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
If they win the with their closure today, they win
and they can force the game seven. I'm actually gonna
think the Dodgers gonna win that I hope. So but Toronto,
I know, I know how powerful Toronto is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
That's another thing that's kind of amazing. Yeah. That's another
thing that's kind of amazing about o'conni though, is that
he went through two Tommy John surgeries and now that's
the way he's pitching now after two surgeries. So you know,
what the hell.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
I mean, you gotta think about everything about the whole solid.
The whole team is solid, from coaching all the way
down to the whole organization. It's just solid. Oh yeah, yeah,
I mean they they want to be champions every year.
Like the Yankees do. They're not afraid to spend money
and and they're just they want to win ball games
and that's what they do. You know, they got their

(01:36:49):
their ninety three wins this year. You know, that's not
super exceptional. You know, I know a lot of teams
go the big teams that go over one hundred wins
in a year. I remember the Maritors in two thousand
and one, the last time we were relevant. We won
one hundred and sixteen games and then lost to the
Yankees in the in the American Championship American League League

(01:37:13):
Championship Series, right and they they went on to go
to the you know, and lose to Arizona. I think
they might have won that. I don't remember, but I
know Arizona was coming in and then they started winning
some and we were fading out and then you know
how they watched baseball for about two decades. But here
I am this year, so I'm keeping up with it.

(01:37:33):
I know the game, I know my game. It's just
been a while. I got you and I'm kind of
watching how how the Toronto man just on paper they
should be better, but I mean, just LA's just so
they're just so solid man all around. Right, So who
you got? Who do you still got?

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
L A right, as far as I'm concerned, that's who
I hope wins. But I'll tell you what I think
each you guys ought to give a kind of final
word for the week, and we'll just end this one.
We're after eleven o'clock now, so I mean I went
the extra hour, Jimmy, just so you know, and by
the time we're done here, it'll be a complete three

(01:38:15):
hour show. And we ended up with sports talk here
in the last part of it. But hey, it is
what it is and more than happy. Nobody else wanted
to call in, But what are you gonna do? So, Jimmy,
you got a final word for the week? I mean
we went linking assassination baseball JFK. I mean we went
a little bit of news real fast. What's wrong with people?

(01:38:38):
What else you got.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
This week?

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
I learned something cool.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I'm pretty sure a republic that's gonna actually win New Jersey.
All right, everyone to have a good weekend piece.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
You know what, I think you might be right, Jimmy,
looking at that weird racing Jersey. I'm going to get
into that next week, probably on the show, along with
the New York mayoral thing, which you know too many
people are paying attention to across the country. But what
the hell Cuomo is definitely not as interesting as people
want them to be. But Curtis Lee was going nowhere

(01:39:17):
in New York. So I don't know. Are we gonna
end up with the socialist mayor? I don't think so,
But then again, it's New York. Anything's possible, ken anything
you want to throw in at the.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
End here, well, socialist of what the people are the
corporations either way, Yeah, vote your guy and you know
everything will change over, the sky will stop falling. Good
luck with that me, you know me, I'm just chilling out.
I do support the parks shutting down den something we

(01:39:53):
weren't talking about. I was going to chime in on
I just remembered, was Yeah, some park rangers and parks
are are affected by this. You know, you got a
lot of people that are affected by the shutdowns if
they're not getting money that needs to get money and
parks and services like that. I watched Brooks Falls Bears
Bear Camp from Catmi National Park. I'm a supporter of

(01:40:16):
that organization, the Otis Fund, and I donated to that
Otis Fund for good reason to keep these guys doing
what they're doing, because they're going out of their way
even when they're not getting paid or getting paid, because
they care about this nature and stuff. It's very important
without nature, you know, without a healthy planet, we all die.

(01:40:38):
So I support any type of charities to nature, and
I definitely support charities to great radio shows and Chuck
you have one. And as soon as I get my
situation figured out here, which will be very very soon,

(01:41:00):
I'm gonna you know, do my business there because I
believe in charities, and I believe in helping people, and
I believe that working with people that want to help people,
like parks and services like that need to be uh,
you know, finance instead of wars and trillion dollars defense

(01:41:23):
budgets and all this crap we got going on with
Republicans and Democrats. We got the same crap going on. Wars, billionaires,
everybody profits, but things that are important kind of get
chefs to side, and people are going to be hungry,
and that you know, the planet needs to be taken
care of, guys. I mean, that's the bottom line. Believe

(01:41:45):
in climate change or not or whatever, But we got
to take care of shit and every bit of you know,
getting information out like you're doing, Chuck, is so important.
So everybody sports, stick together and much love everybody and
watch bears. Next season probably be around June the Catmi

(01:42:07):
National Park, brooks Falt. Bears will be on cam again
and they're about to go off and they're they're hibernating
and and all that. The seasons though, it was an
exciting season and they always want to watch explore dot
org to watch live bear cans and nature cans. Get
into nature. Love your brothers and sisters. Spread the love, everybody,

(01:42:28):
spread the love. This is spend. Can I'm about to
leave the building. Thanks Chuck.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
There you go. Spend can't look. And I can't argue
with the idea that I'd much rather, you know, my taxes.
I'd rather see my taxes go to filming bears and
feeding people than you know, murdering children or doing other
atrocious things that lead to death and destruction any given day.
And you know what for the people that are angrily

(01:42:57):
going on TikTok and going, well, oh, I'm so happy
that people are not gonna get food stamps. I think
you know, what you need to rethink. And I don't
think you understand the resonant damage that's gonna get done here.
I don't think you understand the ripple effect. And when
that money all comes out of the economy, it ain't
gonna tickle, and it hasn't tickled yet. And I don't

(01:43:18):
know how anybody thinks everything is going all fine and
dandy at the moment. But we're about to make it
worse if we don't get together and take care of
one another more often, because relying on anything else, you
can see how far that goes. And again, I'd rather
feed somebody else, or film a bear, or pay a

(01:43:38):
park ranger, or anything other than half of the mayhem
and murderers bucket on the planet by varians. So I
hope that most of you agree.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
I know you don't know what the hell my shock

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