November 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Ochelli Effect 11-6-2025 William Douglas
About 10 years ago Liam Douglas was a guest on The Ochelli Effect. That was a different time when William was actively working as an advocate for other Truth Seekers and himself regarding some of the injustice and horrific events of that time. Armed with a YouTube channel and thirst for Truth William even assisted Chuck in getting his YouTube Channel restored once.
Almost half of what we attempted to broadcast Thursday Night was unclear due to an unstable internet connection which may have been due to weather local to Mr. Douglas. So we are presenting wat is omplete s journey through an unfair legal situation and refusing to be broken by trumped up charges.
William serves his community and is a parent who cares about the disgraceful condition of the country we all thought we knew. We are hoping to keep in touch with him and follow his endeavor to run for President in 2028.
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About 10 years ago Liam Douglas was a guest on The Ochelli Effect. That was a different time when William was actively working as an advocate for other Truth Seekers and himself regarding some of the injustice and horrific events of that time. Armed with a YouTube channel and thirst for Truth William even assisted Chuck in getting his YouTube Channel restored once.
Almost half of what we attempted to broadcast Thursday Night was unclear due to an unstable internet connection which may have been due to weather local to Mr. Douglas. So we are presenting wat is omplete s journey through an unfair legal situation and refusing to be broken by trumped up charges.
William serves his community and is a parent who cares about the disgraceful condition of the country we all thought we knew. We are hoping to keep in touch with him and follow his endeavor to run for President in 2028.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Ready, get ready for.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All of this, like that's doing well at this point?
Do you know anybody that's doing well, because I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What I'm seeing is this is hurting everybody, from the
small business owner to the person who is just trying
to make the food bank work in the first place.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
You know, they're handing out food, they're handing.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Out gift cards so you can go to a grocery
store and supplement because the food banks that hand out
the food for the food distribution centers are empty.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
There's there's we're starting to hit the bottom of the barrel,
and people don't see what's coming. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Two I live in a very small town, and four
weeks ago there was seventy people. Two weeks ago there
was one hundred and ten people. This week there was
one hundred and fifty five people. And this was before
this is right when the benefits have already just ran out.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
The cost of food, the lack.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Of quality food, and the remoteness of where I live
all are paying to that right. And as far as
the firefighter industry goes, which is important to mention, there
are people who.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Spent ten twenty thousand dollars on.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Just insurance and didn't get a day on a fire
last year because of the way that the government's choosing
to manage the fire industry.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
They want to make it better and they want to
bring everybody up to speed.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But they're not concerned about the fact that that just
caused you know, twenty five companies to have to sell
all their equipment because just on insurance alone, if they.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Didn't get any days on fire, then that was it.
That was it for them. There's no fallback.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, look, let's let's rewind a little bit and tell
everybody you mentioned really quickly the federal government versus William Douglas,
but trying to let's bring everybody up to speed about that,
just real quick in short, explain what happened there. And
like I say, nowadays, you know you're out there working
in the food banks. You just revealed to me. I
didn't know that you were out there fighting wildfires. You know,
(02:02):
clearly you're a guy who says, you know what, it's
not just about me. You know, you see a lot
of very self centered people out there, that's for sure.
But they're delusional if they think that, you know, they're
not going to be affected by things that are affecting
others around them.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I don't think they get that part.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Uh, And we're very much trapped in this, you know,
weird sort of forced paradigm where there's nothing but controlled opposition,
as we discussed earlier. And I'm not sure, like we
might have had a couple of breaks in the audio,
so I might have to edit this down some. But
but let's let's cover that really quickly. What happened there?
And because you were doing your YouTube thing, like I
(02:39):
said before, you know, you had been on the show
ten years ago, and it was just like you were
suddenly gone, and it's because you got tied up in
other issues. Would you mind going over that real quick
and then explaining how you came out of it.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So, at the time I was working on YouTube, I
had some research friends. One of those research friends name
was James Munder. He had a channel called Underground News
or Underground News with James Munder, and he was a
contact point for me for some of the victims or
alleged victims involved in the Epstein case, and me and
(03:22):
him had spoken quite extensively for some time. But he
began to experience a lot of targeting, targeted stocking potentially
from the government, and his mental health rapidly deteriorated and
to the point where he actually.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Lost his life.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He was in a single vehicle accident and him and
his dog bull parish on a Los Angeles freeway somewhere
around twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. And that same event was
interesting in relationship to somebody.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Else who was an advocate for.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Rights human rights. Naseem had gone down to the YouTube
facility and being very agitated about how her channel had
been managed, had decided to brandish a firearm, injuring two
YouTube employees and eventually turning it on herself and ending
her own life. Now, that was very extreme, And I
(04:13):
had worked with YouTube for a while trying to advocate
for content creators and for this this huge.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Milestone I saw coming up there.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It was going to be a major problem between what
was going to be allowed to be on this platform
and what wouldn't be What was a matter.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Of free speech, and so I.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Was trying to work as a intermediator for YouTube and
the YouTube community.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Now, just pause a moment, Yeah, just pause a moment.
Pause a moment, because I want to interject here that
I can absolutely verify that in case somebody's listening to
this and going okay, so he was a YouTuber. No,
William was actually backing up what he's saying here, because
he helped me get my channel restored a long time
(04:57):
ago when people were like, how in the hell did
you even get your channel stored? Because they had taken
it away and I had gone through the normal, you know,
whatever it is appeals and they said, no, you know,
we're not restoring it.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I told you about it privately, and you gave
me some advice, gave me a contact because you were
actively working over there to improve things, and say, look,
you know what, you got these content creators who are
out there doing some controversial stuff, but it's valid. It's
not like, you know, nobody's being harassed or stalked because
they were accusing people. I got some stalking people and
(05:32):
harassing people that you know weren't worthy of it, et cetera.
Things like that when we were reporting on news and
actual events, and you helped me get my channel restored
in like years ago, and it was like because you
had actually given me the contact for somebody who was like, okay,
I'll look at your case independently because they had created
(05:53):
a group of people outside of YouTube that didn't work
for Google that we're supposed to look at this and
arbitrate this stuff. And one of the arbitrators saw on
my case and said, I don't see a problem and
restored my whole channel. And I had had a channel
from two thousand and eight until you know, my final
death on this on the thing was in twenty two
(06:13):
I think at twenty twenty two or twenty twenty one
when they finally got rid of me. But I had
a channel for like fifteen years almost, you know, and
it was like, what did I do exactly outside of
what I've always done, And you guys are taking me
down and you actually helped me, so I can verify
that you were actively working on this stuff, like you
(06:34):
weren't just talking crap and sending emails. Okay, other people
did that, though. I got to be honest with you
and told me, oh yeah, well I emailed the guy
and nobody responded, and you know, they were full of crap.
You were actually doing this work. So you know, when
William says he was doing this, he was, okay, So
I'm just you know, I'm just the bearing.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Witness for you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Please continue on with the story though, because you were
working on this and that extreme situation happened, and then
what happened.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And I decided to give it a little break, a little.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Pause because I felt that the environment, the atmosphere was
a little rough, so I gave it some time to
cool off, and I was working towards I still continue
to advocate for a few other channels, and all of
a sudden, my channel channel got hit.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
My channel got hit after I uploaded four or five
videos of my son playing baseball.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And this was at a time when there was nothing else.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Like this going on with my channel in Forging Fine.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So I reached out to communicate with them, and they
just stonewalled me.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
They completely stonewalled me. The only comment I got back
was that this was something to do with spam, and
there was.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Nothing spam related on my channel.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I've actually heard a couple other.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Times when this was used as an excuse to terminate
other channels before they came up with the misinformation medical
information excuse, So that's.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Around the time period. Okay, so I was kind of
okay with you know, this is what they were going
to do, but.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Some more time went by, and eventually I had a
personal crisis occur and at a in the middle of
the evening on a headphul benadryl, and after some serious
traumatic occurrences had occurred right in close proximity, I got
on the Internet and I decided to start late night tweeting.
(08:25):
And I was being kind of calculated, and I'm going
to explain quickly why I had a friend, Nick Yeers,
who I was recent I had just recently made contact with,
and he was the individual who spent twenty two years
on death row for a murder and great case that
he was not guilty of and was eventually proven innocent,
one of the first Americans proven innocent using DNA evidence
(08:47):
prior to OJ Simpson.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Okay, And.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I was like, how can this happen to somebody like this,
twenty two years of their life being made into a
human gladiator, death row.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The slums, the worst of the worst.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And I was like, I wonder if this could just
happen to anybody. So I kind of spoke something right
into being.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I was like, one.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Careless night, I got on the internet and I started tweeting.
Being in these tweets as viewed independently, we're fine, but
taken out of context and viewed together as a group
could be appear rather alarming. And not much longer later,
I got a call from the FBI, and I kind
of like pushed call forward.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And then I got an email from the FBI. I
was like, this has to be a brink or something.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But I called back to the FBI and I left
a message, and I was hoping that the nice message
I left would just.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Be the end of it, but I had a sneaky
suspicion it wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So the FBI special agent who have been arranged by
Hillary Clinton and personally appointed not on my case, but
on the FBI Cybersecurity Task Force, were appointed to ready
to buy some pancics yrup across the street from my home, and.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Lo and behold I salty gentlemen. They said, excuse me,
are you mister Douglas?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And they just snatch you up like that? Yeah, no,
I was saying, And they just snatch you up like that.
You go to my pancake syrup and they just grab
you when you're out of your house, because they almost
always wait for you to not be barricaded in your
house It's like a typical tactic. Wait for them to
come outside, and they just snatch you right there by
asking you who you are. I've heard this story before,
(10:26):
I got to tell you. And as far as the
gladiator thing you mentioned, we'll get back to that later.
But because I can tell you now that I mean,
I just signed onto a lawsuit believe it or not,
for the juvenile system in New Jersey, because I can
tell you that that kind of thing is done across
the board in all these facilities. And you know, if
(10:50):
you were lucky enough to not be in one where
they did this, Yeah, they will pit inmates against each other.
I don't know if the guard's bet on it or what,
but it seems to be a typical action that occurs
in a lot of places. But anyway, enough of my trauma,
let's get back to yours. So they snatched you up,
and what did they charge you with?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So they throw a belly chain on me.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
They drive me down to the not so local county
jail and they hold me and they get some funny shenanigans.
They throw me into an adult victimizing other adult tank
or housing unit.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I'm like, you guys know that's not why.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I'm here, right, They say, oh no, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I say, okay, fine.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
First night I get through. The next day they're like, oh,
we house you in the wrong unit.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Let's howse you with all the murderous individuals instead? Okay,
so why am I here? I'm asking again that guy
will explain.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It soon enough. Well, they only have seventy two hours.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The next day goes and comes and I get washered
into the courtroom, no knowledge of why what I've been
charged with, none of this, and my attorney's coming comes
into railway me and he's like, they're going to try
to hit you hard cyber stop fucking cybrus threat.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's and extortion And I'm like, I did no such thing.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And although you know when you say something on the
internet and that message just received in another.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
State that's issuing a threat over interstate commerce. Ah okay,
so visually my words, you know. So I get it
extortion and that's all they could. I waited it out.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
They put they they threw me into.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Solitary confinement for thirteen months, and I was going to
wait it out if it was going to take twenty
six months, because I knew the reason why I was there.
I had not done such a thing. Nobody was being
stopped right right.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I had no.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Ands for those threats to be play a waiting game,
and then this.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Virus reared its ugly head, and I was My only
thoughts were I have a very sick mother and a partner.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Who had who lives with a lifelong disability. And I'm
saying people fall down dead in the streets.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Of China on these onto TV in my dayroom of
my facility.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
So then I was being.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Played to think that the world was about to fall apart.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So You're seeing the virus hit and the lockdowns happen,
and you're like, damn, I'm going to die in here
pretty much, and people are going to die out there.
I mean, that's the way I would see it if
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You exactly right.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And then January sixth came along and I saw everybody
protesting in DC and I was like, Wow, are we
actually standing up and are we going to fight back finally?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And I was like, you know what, if I'm going
to get called a felon.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
For the rest of my life by a country that
just so happens that drop bombs on babies out of convenience.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Well, then maybe it's not such a bad label.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But how did you wind up finally getting free from
all this, because I mean they could have you up
for a long time considering, you know, the whole. And
it's funny because I love how they selectively enforce this
sort of statute, because I've seen other people make threats
and I mean it's clear it's a threat, you know
what I mean, on the Internet, through emails, through tweets,
(14:16):
through all kinds of things, and I mean it's very
selective as to how the enforcement happens. And I don't
just mean on platforms where they ban somebody or whatever.
I mean directly like doing stuff to you, you know,
like they did to you. It's very selective. I've seen
guys make direct threats. I mean serious, I've been a
target of threats and I don't do anything about it.
(14:39):
But neither does the FBI. They don't care. You know,
you got somebody's attention in the wrong place, and boom,
they go after you, and they'll tell you that this
was a big threat and you know, well, it can
be interpreted this way or that, and then that's the
end of it. And you were on Twitter. I mean,
it's not like you were hiding this. I And anyway,
(15:01):
how did you finally get out of all this?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Oh, we may have a little bit of a problem
with our connection here, and I was aware that could
happen because there's a storm over by Liam.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
So I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Sure if he's he might have a bad connection now,
but this story gets gets stranger, and I want to
get back to where he gets free of all these
things as soon as we can get the connection back. Oh,
I think I've got him back. Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yes, I'm are you hearing me?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Sort of? Yeah, let's let's try and see if we can.
I wanted to hear how you got out of the
circumstance where you were in lock up and all that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, So I stayed in solitary.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I was eventually pushed right into general population to see
if that would break me from being I saved by
myself for thirteen months and then sendling around a bunch
of individuals who are coming down off of drugs and
angry and violent and fighting each other, right, And they
couldn't break me, They couldn't make me act up.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They couldn't do anything, and I made.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It to my pre trial hearing, and finally I met
with a judge who knew better.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
She knew better than this whole situation because.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
It was her alone who defied what the state wanted,
what Bill Barr wanted or William Barr wanted, and was
taking it upon herself to be responsible for any.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Actions I might make. When I was.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Immediately released, the state said, no, we want him a
six month pre trial release program.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And the judge said, have.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You gone through the proper procedures to see where he
will be placed, who his support team is, or any
of this. You've had over a year to do. So
they said no, we have not, and she said, well
that's on you. I don't need him to go. He's
already gone through.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Fine enough even if we convict him.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Now, do you know he served his entirety of his
sentence at his criminality history grade.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
So she just cut you loose.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So she was not having it. She just cut me loose.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
He asked me to check in for a few months
and communicate, and all this went well, and eventually they
I decide, I'm just going to follow through it.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm just going to.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Take the the agreement.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
As we had established.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And I finally asked the government at the end, so
what was it that I actually did wrong? And they
said you it wasn't what you said, it was just
how you said it.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So there's a story in and of itself. And uh,
and you get out and now, like I said, you know,
and like we already covered.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I mean, you're out there doing the food.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Banks and the community service directly. I mean, part of
that might have been part of your release to begin with,
but you're continuing it. And you're also voluntarily fighting fires.
So I mean, you know, what else can somebody ask for?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I say, again, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
There was no community server order, there was no restitution requested.
The YouTube said that as long as he's mentally.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It, we don't want any other part of these proceedings.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Ah okay.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So then you got a victim basically saying, you know,
the alleged victim anyway, saying that he's fine as long
as you know, everything is all good. So that's that,
and you know, you wonder okay. Most people would say, well, gee,
they kind of owe you some time then, but like
you said, you had already served. Even if they were
(18:47):
going to convict you. You'd already served your time. The
judge recognized that. So you kind of drew lucky that
a judge decided not to selectively keep banging on your
head over a couple of statements made on Twitter. I mean,
is that what boils down to?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yep, And I will welcome him to a follow up
on this very soon.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But after that case.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
My judge was taken off of her seat and a
new judge was in her steed, which was not her plans.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Previous to that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So it almost felt like retaliation from the state against her.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Wow. Wow, Well, hopefully it wasn't just over you.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Hopefully it was because she was doing the right thing
in a lot of other places, because.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
We need more and more of those people.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But anyway, it just shows you though, like I said before,
selective enforcement. Though, because I've seen many times been involved
in situations, I'll tell you something else, and a lot
of people don't like it. But because I recently replayed
a show from I did a while ago, I interviewed
Roger Stone. There's a guy who I don't know what
it was he was convicted of which Trump pardoned him for.
(20:00):
But I'll tell you this, I mean, because I don't
know all the details. I could go get them, but
who cares. I know that this guy committed exactly the
same kind of offense that you're talking about, and they
never put him in custody for a day, okay when
the FBI supposedly investigated it, because I know the victims
in this case, he literally did threaten people and with
(20:21):
serious stuff that they were afraid of. And you know,
we're talking about like older women and things that he
had made threatening, you know, threats against written threats, crazy stuff,
and the FBI did nothing. And it was the same
kind of deal where it was you know, interstate and
all that kind of stuff, and it was done over
the internet, and he did it directly by email and
(20:41):
all kinds of things, and they didn't convict them. I
saw this stuff myself. They didn't convict them. They didn't
even pick them up. I doubt they said they spoke
with him, but I doubt they even spoke to him
because he had a privilege. You know, he had to
get out of jail free card. Some people have a
get out of jail free card no matter what crap
they pull.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I do, and I do feel as if and the
judge on my case, Miss Aiken, took into consideration my background,
my family's pedigree, my you know what I have been doing,
what my YouTube content. I think that she simply saw
somebody who was righteously trying to get the truth out.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And my case, you know, it's said, you know, what
you guys are doing is illegal.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know we I'd said in my tweets, you know,
we have a right to the platform of speech. Is
supposed to be a publicly traded you know company, and
we should have the right to free speech. And this
operates as a public forum, our town hall, and you're
allowed to have speech, you're allowed to have you know,
things you're allowed to argue about are things.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You're allowed to stay in the in the purpose of
trying to get.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Things discovered are so I told my judge that, you know,
a lot of this was the state trying to shill
my speech and silence me.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And that's I'm not the only one this has been
done to you.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And I think that the way I've chosen to handle
everything has been just about the best way one can
handle something like this.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And my choice now to run for office is so that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
People have proper representation, and these co corporations stopped taking these.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Liberties as they have been. Right, it was a setup.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
They said, we look forward to working with the FBI
because we know there's going to be a lot more
of these kind.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Of cases in the future.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Right, and then it becomes an industry because trust me,
there's going to be defense lawyers that are going to
be ready in waiting to make a fortune off anybody
who's got the money to pay. And there's going to
be plenty of work for the court to keep it
busy in generating money because we all get monetized when
we get sucked into the system.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
So I mean, that's just the way it works.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
And here we are, you know, and now these rules
are going to change. I know a lot of these
people think they've gotten some victories recently. I don't know why,
but you know.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
This is a serious issue.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So now you're actually trying to raise awareness and get
signatures and everything else.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And what are you running for.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I'm running for.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
The position that is going to require me to get
me all proof popemobile. I'm going to run for the
executive office of the United States Government.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Nice, Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I get that's the title of presidenc.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So you're you're literally going for the presidency and you're
going to try and get signatures in all fifty states.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yes, because I figure in the profits if nothing more
that then the issues that I think need to be
urd in address will become part of the public lexiconomy.
And that's what we need more than having a you know,
priest elected or elected official, is that because we need
to change the status quo.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's almost like if I could run on zero dollars,
I would.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Because I'm not running on a lot of illusary promises.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm running on common sense.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And and people if they want to see a different
future than the one that we've seen late before.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
As now, it's not that hard of a decision.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You vote Douglas, and I'm going to make sure that
over my life and my you know, my my future,
this is accomplished within my lifetime. Okay, you no career
politicians are needed. If somebody can just come in there
and radically overhaul.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
The system and correct the errors within it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know that is true, But it makes me wonder
have you have you developed a website yet? Have you
created a gathering place for people to come together? And uh,
sort of get a get a handle on the ideas
that you have that you want to present running for
president or do you do you are you going to
do it on a different platform? Have you chosen a
particular place or you know, are we going to get
(24:59):
William Douglas for president?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Dot com?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
What's what's going to be the way you're going to
go here?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, So I'm starting off in the spaces that are
being provided by which X now formerly Twitter, because the
biggest part of this is networking.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The biggest part of this is becoming greater than just
some of my.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Parts and having the appropriate contact points to be able
to reach a large audience and a large a large
group of individuals.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Who again I'm not going I'm not selling anything. I'm
simply providing a path now for my own.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
End of what I'm going to build. I'm building a site.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I'm going to be on every platform, on every social
media site. I'm going to be an obscure places And
the purpose of this is for saturation.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm going to do whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And all the other tricks and the guerrilla tactic books
are provided to saturate so that again the message that
I'm platforming and running and campaign on is heard and
not so much the persons behind it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well, fair enough, I mean, but do you want people
to reach out to you at at at your current
X you know handle or do you do you have
another one developed just for the run or what's going on?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Just just visit my current Twitter handle, which is at
Liam triple x mail m A I L L I
am triple x m A I L Liam x mail.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right, and I'm going to put a link in the
show notes for this podcast so that you can do
exactly that. I'll give you the direct you know X
but you know, I keep wanting to say Twitter, but
the X handle and the X location, I'll give you
the link directly so you can visit Liam and see
what it is he's offering, and see what it is
is that he's discussing here. I mean, you know, common
(27:02):
sense ideas and a run for president. Look, you got
to say that there is yet another choice, because I
never liked the two party you know, the one party
choice myself.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
But here you go, here's a guy who's.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Getting it out there and wanting to organically get the
signatures going. And I guess you're going to try and
make a run for twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's correct, and a big part of what we're doing, yep,
that was it.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
A big part of what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Is that everything's going to become grassroots because we're existing
only in echo chambers.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're being compartmentalized, or being silent, or being blacklisted or
being shadowed, bann But there's a lot happening in.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Real time, and it's going to be to the benefit
of the people to not only know what's happening, but
to know common sense solutions of how to solve these colonies.
As a current road time, one of the big things
of huge talking point is going to be the privatization
of the.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Nation's public park system. And this is being done because anything.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
In the public is protection, but one place in.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The private they can be sold off.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And you're going to hear a large number of people
talking about how we should become sovereign citizens, we should
become nationalists, we should give up our citizenship. That equates
to you losing your right to vote. So that is
a movement that is being spearheaded for the sole purpose
of taking people's rights away. When they think they're going
to be gaining liberties and freedoms. We have to use
(28:32):
the pre existing system to correct the errors within.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
The formula that has gotten to this point where we are.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Now, that's not going to be that difficult. It sounds
like a monumental task. If nothing else, Elon Must showed
us how easy it is to see where this waste
is taking place, and maybe nothing was done about it,
but now we can see how easy it is that
things can be re evaluated, corrected, and change could be
made if there was just simply willing parties to do it.
(28:57):
We've been struck in praying parties wan be part of
losing team. But unfortunately we've got to stop playing the
games that they're providing for us and start getting around
to changing the world for our kids.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
A great place to start with that is right in
their education system.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I hope that that kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Right instead of.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Just because our kids are our most valuable asset and.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Future resource, right our children, instead.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Of absolutely just you know, destroying everything and then starting
from the wreckage, why not repair it and see if we.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Can put it in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Look, I got no objection to any of this, and
I'm glad you joined me tonight. I'm definitely happy that
we got. You know, most of this discussion out little
little interruption here and there, but you might add a
storm over by you. And here's what we're going to do.
I want you to visit with me every once in
a while and let me know how things are going.
When you get something else happening, let us know. When
(29:54):
you get a new website up, let us know. And
let's follow this everybody and see what happens. I'm gonna
give you the link. And again he already told you,
but I'll tell you again. If you go on x
dot com and you look for Liam L I A
M Okay three x's x x X mail m A
(30:15):
I L like you know the mail.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
You get at your box.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Okay, Liam triple x mail. That's the UH. That's the
Twitter handle for now. And like you said, he'll have
a website going soon and UH and a few other things.
And we're going to see what what happens here running
up to twenty twenty eight. And look, I think it's
a look already. You're you're an admirable guy doing what
(30:38):
you got to do in your community.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Look, I'm a father to UH, and I know you
and I discussed that years ago. Of course, my my
youngest son was very small then, but he's getting bigger.
I've got adult kids now, and I'm telling you I'm
worried for all of them, uh, because this is not
going to be in a better condition. And then I
(31:01):
found it, this world, this country, and we need we
need unique solutions here because we have some uniquely horrific problems.
So we'll continue on with this discussion on the show
in the future. And remember this, I'm merely O'Kelly.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
All of this, like that's doing well at this point?
Do you know anybody that's doing well, because I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What I'm seeing is this is hurting everybody, from the
small business owner to the person who is just trying
to make the food bank work in the first place.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
You know, they're handing out food, they're handing.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Out gift cards so you can go to a grocery
store and supplement because the food banks that hand out
the food for the food distribution centers are empty.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
There's there's we're starting to hit the bottom of the barrel,
and people don't see what's coming. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Two I live in a very small town, and four
weeks ago there was seventy people. Two weeks ago there
was one hundred and ten people. This week there was
one hundred and fifty five people. And this was before
this is right when the benefits have already just ran out.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
The cost of food, the lack.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Of quality food, and the remoteness of where I live
all are paying to that right. And as far as
the firefighter industry goes, which is important to mention, there
are people who.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Spent ten twenty thousand dollars on.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Just insurance and didn't get a day on a fire
last year because of the way that the government's choosing
to manage the fire industry.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
They want to make it better and they want to
bring everybody up to speed.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But they're not concerned about the fact that that just
caused you know, twenty five companies to have to sell
all their equipment because just on insurance alone, if they.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Didn't get any days on fire, then that was it.
That was it for them. There's no fallback.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, look, let's let's rewind a little bit and tell
everybody you mentioned really quickly the federal government versus William Douglas,
but trying to let's bring everybody up to speed about that,
just real quick in short, explain what happened there. And
like I say, nowadays, you know you're out there working
in the food banks. You just revealed to me. I
didn't know that you were out there fighting wildfires. You know,
(02:02):
clearly you're a guy who says, you know what, it's
not just about me. You know, you see a lot
of very self centered people out there, that's for sure.
But they're delusional if they think that, you know, they're
not going to be affected by things that are affecting
others around them.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I don't think they get that part.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Uh, And we're very much trapped in this, you know,
weird sort of forced paradigm where there's nothing but controlled opposition,
as we discussed earlier. And I'm not sure, like we
might have had a couple of breaks in the audio,
so I might have to edit this down some. But
but let's let's cover that really quickly. What happened there?
And because you were doing your YouTube thing, like I
(02:39):
said before, you know, you had been on the show
ten years ago, and it was just like you were
suddenly gone, and it's because you got tied up in
other issues. Would you mind going over that real quick
and then explaining how you came out of it.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So, at the time I was working on YouTube, I
had some research friends. One of those research friends name
was James Munder. He had a channel called Underground News
or Underground News with James Munder, and he was a
contact point for me for some of the victims or
alleged victims involved in the Epstein case, and me and
(03:22):
him had spoken quite extensively for some time. But he
began to experience a lot of targeting, targeted stocking potentially
from the government, and his mental health rapidly deteriorated and
to the point where he actually.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Lost his life.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He was in a single vehicle accident and him and
his dog bull parish on a Los Angeles freeway somewhere
around twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. And that same event was
interesting in relationship to somebody.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Else who was an advocate for.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Rights human rights. Naseem had gone down to the YouTube
facility and being very agitated about how her channel had
been managed, had decided to brandish a firearm, injuring two
YouTube employees and eventually turning it on herself and ending
her own life. Now, that was very extreme, And I
(04:13):
had worked with YouTube for a while trying to advocate
for content creators and for this this huge.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Milestone I saw coming up there.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It was going to be a major problem between what
was going to be allowed to be on this platform
and what wouldn't be What was a matter.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Of free speech, and so I.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Was trying to work as a intermediator for YouTube and
the YouTube community.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Now, just pause a moment, Yeah, just pause a moment.
Pause a moment, because I want to interject here that
I can absolutely verify that in case somebody's listening to
this and going okay, so he was a YouTuber. No,
William was actually backing up what he's saying here, because
he helped me get my channel restored a long time
(04:57):
ago when people were like, how in the hell did
you even get your channel stored? Because they had taken
it away and I had gone through the normal, you know,
whatever it is appeals and they said, no, you know,
we're not restoring it.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I told you about it privately, and you gave
me some advice, gave me a contact because you were
actively working over there to improve things, and say, look,
you know what, you got these content creators who are
out there doing some controversial stuff, but it's valid. It's
not like, you know, nobody's being harassed or stalked because
they were accusing people. I got some stalking people and
(05:32):
harassing people that you know weren't worthy of it, et cetera.
Things like that when we were reporting on news and
actual events, and you helped me get my channel restored
in like years ago, and it was like because you
had actually given me the contact for somebody who was like, okay,
I'll look at your case independently because they had created
(05:53):
a group of people outside of YouTube that didn't work
for Google that we're supposed to look at this and
arbitrate this stuff. And one of the arbitrators saw on
my case and said, I don't see a problem and
restored my whole channel. And I had had a channel
from two thousand and eight until you know, my final
death on this on the thing was in twenty two
(06:13):
I think at twenty twenty two or twenty twenty one
when they finally got rid of me. But I had
a channel for like fifteen years almost, you know, and
it was like, what did I do exactly outside of
what I've always done, And you guys are taking me
down and you actually helped me, so I can verify
that you were actively working on this stuff, like you
(06:34):
weren't just talking crap and sending emails. Okay, other people
did that, though. I got to be honest with you
and told me, oh yeah, well I emailed the guy
and nobody responded, and you know, they were full of crap.
You were actually doing this work. So you know, when
William says he was doing this, he was, okay, So
I'm just you know, I'm just the bearing.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Witness for you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Please continue on with the story though, because you were
working on this and that extreme situation happened, and then
what happened.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And I decided to give it a little break, a little.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Pause because I felt that the environment, the atmosphere was
a little rough, so I gave it some time to
cool off, and I was working towards I still continue
to advocate for a few other channels, and all of
a sudden, my channel channel got hit.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
My channel got hit after I uploaded four or five
videos of my son playing baseball.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And this was at a time when there was nothing else.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Like this going on with my channel in Forging Fine.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So I reached out to communicate with them, and they
just stonewalled me.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
They completely stonewalled me. The only comment I got back
was that this was something to do with spam, and
there was.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Nothing spam related on my channel.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I've actually heard a couple other.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Times when this was used as an excuse to terminate
other channels before they came up with the misinformation medical
information excuse, So that's.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Around the time period. Okay, so I was kind of
okay with you know, this is what they were going
to do, but.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Some more time went by, and eventually I had a
personal crisis occur and at a in the middle of
the evening on a headphul benadryl, and after some serious
traumatic occurrences had occurred right in close proximity, I got
on the Internet and I decided to start late night tweeting.
(08:25):
And I was being kind of calculated, and I'm going
to explain quickly why I had a friend, Nick Yeers,
who I was recent I had just recently made contact with,
and he was the individual who spent twenty two years
on death row for a murder and great case that
he was not guilty of and was eventually proven innocent,
one of the first Americans proven innocent using DNA evidence
(08:47):
prior to OJ Simpson.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Okay, And.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I was like, how can this happen to somebody like this,
twenty two years of their life being made into a
human gladiator, death row.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The slums, the worst of the worst.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And I was like, I wonder if this could just
happen to anybody. So I kind of spoke something right
into being.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I was like, one.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Careless night, I got on the internet and I started tweeting.
Being in these tweets as viewed independently, we're fine, but
taken out of context and viewed together as a group
could be appear rather alarming. And not much longer later,
I got a call from the FBI, and I kind
of like pushed call forward.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And then I got an email from the FBI. I
was like, this has to be a brink or something.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But I called back to the FBI and I left
a message, and I was hoping that the nice message
I left would just.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Be the end of it, but I had a sneaky
suspicion it wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So the FBI special agent who have been arranged by
Hillary Clinton and personally appointed not on my case, but
on the FBI Cybersecurity Task Force, were appointed to ready
to buy some pancics yrup across the street from my home, and.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Lo and behold I salty gentlemen. They said, excuse me,
are you mister Douglas?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And they just snatch you up like that? Yeah, no,
I was saying, And they just snatch you up like that.
You go to my pancake syrup and they just grab
you when you're out of your house, because they almost
always wait for you to not be barricaded in your
house It's like a typical tactic. Wait for them to
come outside, and they just snatch you right there by
asking you who you are. I've heard this story before,
(10:26):
I got to tell you. And as far as the
gladiator thing you mentioned, we'll get back to that later.
But because I can tell you now that I mean,
I just signed onto a lawsuit believe it or not,
for the juvenile system in New Jersey, because I can
tell you that that kind of thing is done across
the board in all these facilities. And you know, if
(10:50):
you were lucky enough to not be in one where
they did this, Yeah, they will pit inmates against each other.
I don't know if the guard's bet on it or what,
but it seems to be a typical action that occurs
in a lot of places. But anyway, enough of my trauma,
let's get back to yours. So they snatched you up,
and what did they charge you with?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So they throw a belly chain on me.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
They drive me down to the not so local county
jail and they hold me and they get some funny shenanigans.
They throw me into an adult victimizing other adult tank
or housing unit.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I'm like, you guys know that's not why.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I'm here, right, They say, oh no, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I say, okay, fine.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
First night I get through. The next day they're like, oh,
we house you in the wrong unit.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Let's howse you with all the murderous individuals instead? Okay,
so why am I here? I'm asking again that guy
will explain.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It soon enough. Well, they only have seventy two hours.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The next day goes and comes and I get washered
into the courtroom, no knowledge of why what I've been
charged with, none of this, and my attorney's coming comes
into railway me and he's like, they're going to try
to hit you hard cyber stop fucking cybrus threat.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's and extortion And I'm like, I did no such thing.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And although you know when you say something on the
internet and that message just received in another.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
State that's issuing a threat over interstate commerce. Ah okay,
so visually my words, you know. So I get it
extortion and that's all they could. I waited it out.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
They put they they threw me into.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Solitary confinement for thirteen months, and I was going to
wait it out if it was going to take twenty
six months, because I knew the reason why I was there.
I had not done such a thing. Nobody was being
stopped right right.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I had no.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Ands for those threats to be play a waiting game,
and then this.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Virus reared its ugly head, and I was My only
thoughts were I have a very sick mother and a partner.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Who had who lives with a lifelong disability. And I'm
saying people fall down dead in the streets.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Of China on these onto TV in my dayroom of
my facility.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
So then I was being.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Played to think that the world was about to fall apart.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So You're seeing the virus hit and the lockdowns happen,
and you're like, damn, I'm going to die in here
pretty much, and people are going to die out there.
I mean, that's the way I would see it if
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You exactly right.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And then January sixth came along and I saw everybody
protesting in DC and I was like, Wow, are we
actually standing up and are we going to fight back finally?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And I was like, you know what, if I'm going
to get called a felon.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
For the rest of my life by a country that
just so happens that drop bombs on babies out of convenience.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Well, then maybe it's not such a bad label.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But how did you wind up finally getting free from
all this, because I mean they could have you up
for a long time considering, you know, the whole. And
it's funny because I love how they selectively enforce this
sort of statute, because I've seen other people make threats
and I mean it's clear it's a threat, you know
what I mean, on the Internet, through emails, through tweets,
(14:16):
through all kinds of things, and I mean it's very
selective as to how the enforcement happens. And I don't
just mean on platforms where they ban somebody or whatever.
I mean directly like doing stuff to you, you know,
like they did to you. It's very selective. I've seen
guys make direct threats. I mean serious, I've been a
target of threats and I don't do anything about it.
(14:39):
But neither does the FBI. They don't care. You know,
you got somebody's attention in the wrong place, and boom,
they go after you, and they'll tell you that this
was a big threat and you know, well, it can
be interpreted this way or that, and then that's the
end of it. And you were on Twitter. I mean,
it's not like you were hiding this. I And anyway,
(15:01):
how did you finally get out of all this?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Oh, we may have a little bit of a problem
with our connection here, and I was aware that could
happen because there's a storm over by Liam.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
So I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Sure if he's he might have a bad connection now,
but this story gets gets stranger, and I want to
get back to where he gets free of all these
things as soon as we can get the connection back. Oh,
I think I've got him back. Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yes, I'm are you hearing me?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Sort of? Yeah, let's let's try and see if we can.
I wanted to hear how you got out of the
circumstance where you were in lock up and all that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, So I stayed in solitary.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I was eventually pushed right into general population to see
if that would break me from being I saved by
myself for thirteen months and then sendling around a bunch
of individuals who are coming down off of drugs and
angry and violent and fighting each other, right, And they
couldn't break me, They couldn't make me act up.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They couldn't do anything, and I made.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It to my pre trial hearing, and finally I met
with a judge who knew better.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
She knew better than this whole situation because.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
It was her alone who defied what the state wanted,
what Bill Barr wanted or William Barr wanted, and was
taking it upon herself to be responsible for any.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Actions I might make. When I was.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Immediately released, the state said, no, we want him a
six month pre trial release program.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And the judge said, have.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You gone through the proper procedures to see where he
will be placed, who his support team is, or any
of this. You've had over a year to do. So
they said no, we have not, and she said, well
that's on you. I don't need him to go. He's
already gone through.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Fine enough even if we convict him.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Now, do you know he served his entirety of his
sentence at his criminality history grade.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
So she just cut you loose.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So she was not having it. She just cut me loose.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
He asked me to check in for a few months
and communicate, and all this went well, and eventually they
I decide, I'm just going to follow through it.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm just going to.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Take the the agreement.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
As we had established.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And I finally asked the government at the end, so
what was it that I actually did wrong? And they
said you it wasn't what you said, it was just
how you said it.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So there's a story in and of itself. And uh,
and you get out and now, like I said, you know,
and like we already covered.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I mean, you're out there doing the food.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Banks and the community service directly. I mean, part of
that might have been part of your release to begin with,
but you're continuing it. And you're also voluntarily fighting fires.
So I mean, you know, what else can somebody ask for?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I say, again, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
There was no community server order, there was no restitution requested.
The YouTube said that as long as he's mentally.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It, we don't want any other part of these proceedings.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Ah okay.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So then you got a victim basically saying, you know,
the alleged victim anyway, saying that he's fine as long
as you know, everything is all good. So that's that,
and you know, you wonder okay. Most people would say, well, gee,
they kind of owe you some time then, but like
you said, you had already served. Even if they were
(18:47):
going to convict you. You'd already served your time. The
judge recognized that. So you kind of drew lucky that
a judge decided not to selectively keep banging on your
head over a couple of statements made on Twitter. I mean,
is that what boils down to?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yep, And I will welcome him to a follow up
on this very soon.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But after that case.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
My judge was taken off of her seat and a
new judge was in her steed, which was not her plans.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Previous to that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So it almost felt like retaliation from the state against her.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Wow. Wow, Well, hopefully it wasn't just over you.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Hopefully it was because she was doing the right thing
in a lot of other places, because.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
We need more and more of those people.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But anyway, it just shows you though, like I said before,
selective enforcement. Though, because I've seen many times been involved
in situations, I'll tell you something else, and a lot
of people don't like it. But because I recently replayed
a show from I did a while ago, I interviewed
Roger Stone. There's a guy who I don't know what
it was he was convicted of which Trump pardoned him for.
(20:00):
But I'll tell you this, I mean, because I don't
know all the details. I could go get them, but
who cares. I know that this guy committed exactly the
same kind of offense that you're talking about, and they
never put him in custody for a day, okay when
the FBI supposedly investigated it, because I know the victims
in this case, he literally did threaten people and with
(20:21):
serious stuff that they were afraid of. And you know,
we're talking about like older women and things that he
had made threatening, you know, threats against written threats, crazy stuff,
and the FBI did nothing. And it was the same
kind of deal where it was you know, interstate and
all that kind of stuff, and it was done over
the internet, and he did it directly by email and
(20:41):
all kinds of things, and they didn't convict them. I
saw this stuff myself. They didn't convict them. They didn't
even pick them up. I doubt they said they spoke
with him, but I doubt they even spoke to him
because he had a privilege. You know, he had to
get out of jail free card. Some people have a
get out of jail free card no matter what crap
they pull.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I do, and I do feel as if and the
judge on my case, Miss Aiken, took into consideration my background,
my family's pedigree, my you know what I have been doing,
what my YouTube content. I think that she simply saw
somebody who was righteously trying to get the truth out.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And my case, you know, it's said, you know, what
you guys are doing is illegal.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know we I'd said in my tweets, you know,
we have a right to the platform of speech. Is
supposed to be a publicly traded you know company, and
we should have the right to free speech. And this
operates as a public forum, our town hall, and you're
allowed to have speech, you're allowed to have you know,
things you're allowed to argue about are things.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You're allowed to stay in the in the purpose of
trying to get.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Things discovered are so I told my judge that, you know,
a lot of this was the state trying to shill
my speech and silence me.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And that's I'm not the only one this has been
done to you.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And I think that the way I've chosen to handle
everything has been just about the best way one can
handle something like this.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And my choice now to run for office is so that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
People have proper representation, and these co corporations stopped taking these.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Liberties as they have been. Right, it was a setup.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
They said, we look forward to working with the FBI
because we know there's going to be a lot more
of these kind.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Of cases in the future.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Right, and then it becomes an industry because trust me,
there's going to be defense lawyers that are going to
be ready in waiting to make a fortune off anybody
who's got the money to pay. And there's going to
be plenty of work for the court to keep it
busy in generating money because we all get monetized when
we get sucked into the system.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
So I mean, that's just the way it works.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
And here we are, you know, and now these rules
are going to change. I know a lot of these
people think they've gotten some victories recently. I don't know why,
but you know.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
This is a serious issue.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So now you're actually trying to raise awareness and get
signatures and everything else.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And what are you running for.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I'm running for.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
The position that is going to require me to get
me all proof popemobile. I'm going to run for the
executive office of the United States Government.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Nice, Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I get that's the title of presidenc.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So you're you're literally going for the presidency and you're
going to try and get signatures in all fifty states.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yes, because I figure in the profits if nothing more
that then the issues that I think need to be
urd in address will become part of the public lexiconomy.
And that's what we need more than having a you know,
priest elected or elected official, is that because we need
to change the status quo.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's almost like if I could run on zero dollars,
I would.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Because I'm not running on a lot of illusary promises.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm running on common sense.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And and people if they want to see a different
future than the one that we've seen late before.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
As now, it's not that hard of a decision.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You vote Douglas, and I'm going to make sure that
over my life and my you know, my my future,
this is accomplished within my lifetime. Okay, you no career
politicians are needed. If somebody can just come in there
and radically overhaul.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
The system and correct the errors within it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know that is true, But it makes me wonder
have you have you developed a website yet? Have you
created a gathering place for people to come together? And uh,
sort of get a get a handle on the ideas
that you have that you want to present running for
president or do you do you are you going to
do it on a different platform? Have you chosen a
particular place or you know, are we going to get
(24:59):
William Douglas for president?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Dot com?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
What's what's going to be the way you're going to
go here?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, So I'm starting off in the spaces that are
being provided by which X now formerly Twitter, because the
biggest part of this is networking.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The biggest part of this is becoming greater than just
some of my.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Parts and having the appropriate contact points to be able
to reach a large audience and a large a large
group of individuals.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Who again I'm not going I'm not selling anything. I'm
simply providing a path now for my own.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
End of what I'm going to build. I'm building a site.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I'm going to be on every platform, on every social
media site. I'm going to be an obscure places And
the purpose of this is for saturation.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm going to do whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And all the other tricks and the guerrilla tactic books
are provided to saturate so that again the message that
I'm platforming and running and campaign on is heard and
not so much the persons behind it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well, fair enough, I mean, but do you want people
to reach out to you at at at your current
X you know handle or do you do you have
another one developed just for the run or what's going on?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Just just visit my current Twitter handle, which is at
Liam triple x mail m A I L L I
am triple x m A I L Liam x mail.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right, and I'm going to put a link in the
show notes for this podcast so that you can do
exactly that. I'll give you the direct you know X
but you know, I keep wanting to say Twitter, but
the X handle and the X location, I'll give you
the link directly so you can visit Liam and see
what it is he's offering, and see what it is
is that he's discussing here. I mean, you know, common
(27:02):
sense ideas and a run for president. Look, you got
to say that there is yet another choice, because I
never liked the two party you know, the one party
choice myself.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
But here you go, here's a guy who's.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Getting it out there and wanting to organically get the
signatures going. And I guess you're going to try and
make a run for twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's correct, and a big part of what we're doing, yep,
that was it.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
A big part of what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Is that everything's going to become grassroots because we're existing
only in echo chambers.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're being compartmentalized, or being silent, or being blacklisted or
being shadowed, bann But there's a lot happening in.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Real time, and it's going to be to the benefit
of the people to not only know what's happening, but
to know common sense solutions of how to solve these colonies.
As a current road time, one of the big things
of huge talking point is going to be the privatization
of the.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Nation's public park system. And this is being done because anything.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
In the public is protection, but one place in.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The private they can be sold off.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And you're going to hear a large number of people
talking about how we should become sovereign citizens, we should
become nationalists, we should give up our citizenship. That equates
to you losing your right to vote. So that is
a movement that is being spearheaded for the sole purpose
of taking people's rights away. When they think they're going
to be gaining liberties and freedoms. We have to use
(28:32):
the pre existing system to correct the errors within.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
The formula that has gotten to this point where we are.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Now, that's not going to be that difficult. It sounds
like a monumental task. If nothing else, Elon Must showed
us how easy it is to see where this waste
is taking place, and maybe nothing was done about it,
but now we can see how easy it is that
things can be re evaluated, corrected, and change could be
made if there was just simply willing parties to do it.
(28:57):
We've been struck in praying parties wan be part of
losing team. But unfortunately we've got to stop playing the
games that they're providing for us and start getting around
to changing the world for our kids.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
A great place to start with that is right in
their education system.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I hope that that kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Right instead of.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Just because our kids are our most valuable asset and.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Future resource, right our children, instead.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Of absolutely just you know, destroying everything and then starting
from the wreckage, why not repair it and see if we.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Can put it in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Look, I got no objection to any of this, and
I'm glad you joined me tonight. I'm definitely happy that
we got. You know, most of this discussion out little
little interruption here and there, but you might add a
storm over by you. And here's what we're going to do.
I want you to visit with me every once in
a while and let me know how things are going.
When you get something else happening, let us know. When
(29:54):
you get a new website up, let us know. And
let's follow this everybody and see what happens. I'm gonna
give you the link. And again he already told you,
but I'll tell you again. If you go on x
dot com and you look for Liam L I A
M Okay three x's x x X mail m A
(30:15):
I L like you know the mail.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
You get at your box.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Okay, Liam triple x mail. That's the UH. That's the
Twitter handle for now. And like you said, he'll have
a website going soon and UH and a few other things.
And we're going to see what what happens here running
up to twenty twenty eight. And look, I think it's
a look already. You're you're an admirable guy doing what
(30:38):
you got to do in your community.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Look, I'm a father to UH, and I know you
and I discussed that years ago. Of course, my my
youngest son was very small then, but he's getting bigger.
I've got adult kids now, and I'm telling you I'm
worried for all of them, uh, because this is not
going to be in a better condition. And then I
(31:01):
found it, this world, this country, and we need we
need unique solutions here because we have some uniquely horrific problems.
So we'll continue on with this discussion on the show
in the future. And remember this, I'm merely O'Kelly.
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