November 29, 2025 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, welcome back to the Opperman Report. I'm your host,
private investigator Ed Opperman. I have on the line a
couple of folks, Cowboy and Yvonne, and they lived at
a camp themselves that was like fifty feet away from
this big famous camp. Everybody's talking about this pedro camp
that the veterans on patrol discovered and put all over YouTube.
(00:21):
So Cowboy and Yvonne, are you there? Yes, we are, Okay, great,
thank you so much. So give us an idea. Now,
how did you wind up down there at this camp?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I ended up getting hurt as a march of
ma Raine and everything through the Coast Guard and everything
and made me where I couldn't work, And I well,
I'm Social Security and I don't make that much money
to be able to rent a place. So I ended
up staying in the desert for twenty something years until
(00:56):
my lawyer, lady's friend gave me an rvy I could
get out of the desert. That's what we live in. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Now where you guys living. Now you're still in Tucson.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just do what now?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You still live down there in Tucson, Yes we do, okay,
but now, thank god, you're indoors. You got on r
V A least, right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Now, that's amazing, and here you are. You get injured
and you get social security, but it's not enough to
live on. You can't even live like a decent indoors
and take care of yourself. So how much what do
you get there? How much they give you?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I give that seven hundred a month there.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So no one can live on that, right, It's just
it's disgraceful. Okay, So you wound up down there. Now,
when you were living down you had your own camp
that was nearby this other camp that's become famous.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Right, Yes, I live there and I know everybody that
ever lived in that camp that's in question that you're
speaking of.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, did you watch them actually construct this camp and
you watch them build it all?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
In all?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think the biggest project that ever went on over
there was a friend of Virus named Thomas that's a
transsexual and lived in the plastic tube that they were
saying that where children were being held inside.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They say there was like a septic tank that was
I guess cleaned out and then buried underground.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, it was a septic and everything and Thomas went ahead,
and I'll the whole bunch of debris on top of
it too, you know, so that people it wouldn't stick
out like a sore eye, and nobody would come in
and raige and steal his personal belongings.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Now, but I've been on the desk. I'm just telling
you your wife there that I live in Nevada. Now,
wouldn't it be hotter inside a plastic container like that?
In the ground there is a cooler.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's cooler because it's under shade and everything. And then
it's plus it's also white, okay, And with everything that
was put on top of it, it stayed completely in
the shade.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Something like that. Thomas didn't stay there during the day,
stayed there at night.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay. That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
To go to the library or something during the day, ok.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right, Right, because when when you're when you're you don't
have a home, you go to the library and stuff
with that, you go to the mall places public places
where have air conditioning, right, and a bathroom you can use.
You go to the rec center.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right and then and then also uh before that, uh,
there was a man named Alan that's a homosexual friend
of ours that lived also at that camp. And then
after that, we have a friend called mad Max, which
right now they're they're in Denver. They're going to be
(03:45):
back here after a little bit, but they lived in
that camp.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
He's the one that set up all the straps and
stuff to actually hang parts and stuff in that camp.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The straps were literally used to all food up off
the ground so the halloweleenas wouldn't tear into your groceries.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Right now, I've actually seen I've been to your Facebook
page and I've seen how you have your camp set up.
Things are tied up. It's very nice and neat, so
very very well kept. You got your kitchen there, you
got your wreck area, all that kind of stuff, and
you've got things off the ground so that the animals
don't come and critics don't come and getting your food
and stuff and you the bugs and things.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right yeah, farre, The halloween is that they tear into anything.
I mean, if they can get through it, that they'll
get in it somehow.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now, I spent a lot of time in in Tucson myself,
and halloleenas are like these wild pigs with the real
bristles on them. They got like a uh, well hard
and they nothing to fool around with it another to
fool around with it. You see what coming.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
If you went down to the camp that we stayed
that under that big tree in everything, Uh, when we
left and everything and gave it to some friends so
that they'd have a place safe to lay down and
all that, it was clean. Uh when we went back
and saw it as how they left that camp, it
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was trashed out. Like BFI backed up and dumped all
the garbage in one spot.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
BFI, who's that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Uh? That's garbage pick up okaye, like waste management. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you're saying to by the way, you're saying that
these these things that people are calling the rape tree
with these straps that allegedly were used to rape children
from were actually used to hang up to keep things
off the ground. Is that to clarify that right?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, that's that is correct. I used alets i hung
up on ropes to keep it off the ground. But
they were using straps and different things to die up,
and then some of them had poles go through them
straps to put a tarp over for when it rains.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Gotcha, Now, have you ever seen little kids or anything
with any children whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Never saw any children through there. The only children that
teenagers that I have saw were up there by qt
There's a tunnel that goes under the highway to the
neighborhood there, and the kids would go down there and
right there and gang signs and all that under there,
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and you know, smoking or whatever they wanted. But they
were never up by that camp. The only time I
ever seen knew about that. The only time I ever
seen him up that way was further down from the
cement plant. We had Alan had a camp over there,
(06:44):
and they went over there to set his camp on fire.
That's the only time I've seen him go that far.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We had to call the police if they could come out,
and what do you call that? Take care of the fire?
Everybody out there that day, all right, milcopters.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So then the police are aware of this camp then
before there was right, Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, they know all of us. I am
good standing with the police. If you look on the Facebook,
you'll see Officer Robert holding a rope on a horse
that we rescued that got lost out there in the desert,
and it looked like it got hit by a car
a couple of times. And I am good. I have
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a good report with all the police officers over in
that area and everything. They now, boys, you can't over
talk on me like that. So then so anyway, the
police know me real good. And they even stated after
they got rid of Lewis and everything that I was
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welcome to go back down there and stay at that camp.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Okay, wash And what about the Cement planned people, you know,
before we get into all that, and there was a
swing there. They said, oh, this is a swing and
they probably had these swing to keep the children occupied
between the raping sessions. Well, what do you make of
that swing?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know this guy. I think that he takes
something and then builds it into a story and everything,
and then exaggerates as he goes and it gets bigger
and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We'll talk to other reporters and stuff, and they think
he was just trying to make a name for himself.
They just well they thought it was something and ram
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well. One one report ridiculous. One record recording that we
heard was a reporter calling Semax and he said they
were affiliated with the Clintons and the Obama people and
donating a lot of money to them. And what I
believe is that Premier Rock right there in front of
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the cement plant there. I think they got him to
go down there and see who all was living down
there and everything, because they wanted him off the property.
And I think that's how this thing offs got started.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wait a second, you're saying that you think the Semax
company hired Lewis Arthur Lewis or Lewis Arthur, So didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I said that that's owned also by k miror Iron
theer Rock and everything, and that's part of Semax and everything.
And I did hear a recording with another reporter talking
to their headquarters for Seamax, and he's the one who
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told us that they were affiliated with the Obama the
Clintons donations, and that's what I think happened. They went
with him and everything and wanted to know who all
was camping back there, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
We also called the veterans on patrol and they said
that they were not connected to this guy at all.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh really. Now let me ask you this though, now,
because I've seen both your Facebook pages and you guys
are very active Trump fans. You're fans of Donald Trump
the president, right.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I am active and support anybody that's going to
put my country first. I don't care if it's Republican
or Democrat, that doesn't matter. What I judge a person
on is what is he doing for the country, What
is he doing to you know, for jobs, people that
(10:32):
are poor and everything. Is he going to get the
economy kicked off and get it running again? And then
how he articulates his words and how he handles hisself
as an individual well.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And hopefully he'll he'll increase the Social Security benefits for
people that are there out in the street. They're suffering, right,
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's so sad that the cost of living is so
high and everything, you know, that they don't take better
care of us. You know, I'm in my sixties as
well as I and I have disability and everything. I
can only walked so far and I had to stop.
(11:12):
I got you, you know, I can only walk very
so far about where I'm at right now to my gate,
and I got to stop.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So you guys living down there, you never saw Hillary
Clinton or George Sorows coming by the rape little children
or anything.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now, I'm sure you asked Lewis, he said that they're
on there they're on their trail.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's right, that's right there, they're hot on the trail,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Did you know this guy Lewis before all this?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, they came. They tried to calm down through there
in the wash, and there's a camp and everything, and
there's a rule out here that you yell hey incoming
anybody in the camp. Just like if you're living up
in the mountains, you don't go up to somebody's cabin.
(12:06):
You y hey, anybody in the cabin. You know what
I mean, Sure, you announce yourself. Well, they wouldn't do that.
And then I told him to stop, and they didn't
want to stop, and I had to get off and
go out there and tell him, look, man, this is
my place where I'm living and everything. You're not welcome here,
you don't, you know, just come barging in on somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Absolutely. When I was a teenager in New York City,
I used to live in squat or apartments. He used
to squat and he's a band in buildings and stuff
like that as a teenager, so I know what you're
talking about. And you don't walk into another man's camp
or another man's squat. You know who knows coming in.
It's very defensive in that kind of situation. So that's right, right, yeah,
So now, so so Lewis is disrespectful in this kind
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of way that he just comes walking into people's camp, right.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It was very disrespectful. And then when you tried to
tell him, I had to literally, you know, get forceful
and say, look, you need to go home, keep going,
you know. And then they want to give us a
gift card, you know, if they could come in and
interview us and talk with us. And I told him
I didn't need their gift card that, you know, if
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they're going to be disrespectful and they need to go home,
you know, we did anybody, the police officers, Tucson Police
Department and everything. Even when they come down, they'll say,
ay income and it's you know, Tucson Police Department. And
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then you know they'll stop at the edge, you know,
and they won't even come in unless you say, we'll
call in.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know absolutely, you know, you wouldn't walk into someone's home.
So if someone's living, you know, outside, you're not going
to walk into the camp. That's very disrespectful. Now, did
did Lewis ever try and come to you did anybody,
any of the local people besides yourself, try and tell Louis,
hey man, we know the people who live in this camp.
It's not a pedal camp and these aren't rape trees,
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and anybody trying to tell him.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
We even made a video and put it on, and
then we also talked to everybody. And then, like I said,
I know everybody and anybody that lives around through there,
all the way to the Pema Community College, all the
way to the casino. I know all the only people.
I had the phone numbers to everybody that's ever lived
(14:25):
back there in that camp or anything. We always talk.
And yeah, he was told by back and forth, Look,
you're fabricating something. You're lying because we know Cowboy and everything.
The police even told him they knew me and that
I was no trouble to nobody and stuff like that.
Even the rancher told him that you know that Cowboys
(14:46):
a old man and he's been there forever and he
don't bother nobody.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And also that rancher is a very nice man. He's
cotting down before and made sure we had plenty of water,
you know, like if he got hot like I did today,
he would have came down there and checked to make
sure we have water that were okay.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Did you know that Lewis got arrested for and handcuffed
and all Walt is bopany not long ago? About what
a week? Yeah, about a week ago? Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I've been I've been following this. I've been following
his whole He's been arrested many times. He does a
lot of stunty climbs up on flagpoles and get some
stuff arrested and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, about the flag out, he went up there, admit
he needs to and he's going to THEA and get
on some edge to control his illusions.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Why do you think it's widely reported.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's like he's schizophrenic?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Really? And what about did you notice any drug use
with this group the veterans on patrol maybe they're using
drugs or anything.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, I did, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now the police came out and investigated. Did you talk
to the police, Yes, I did. And what did the
police say to you?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
They just I can't remember exactly was they said. They
knew that you know, he was fabricating it and making
things up and everything, and you know, they talked to
us for a little while and everything. And I told him,
I says, well, you know, all you got to do
is just use good common sense. And you can see
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this man is wanting to make a name for herself.
And uh, I think he wants to put hisself in
the rim light and everything like a movie star or something.
His name that number, one one six one one officer Todd.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, great, that's good, one six one one officer Todd.
Now how many cops came out though to investigate this?
Did they take pictures and videos and measure stuff? You know,
see cops do I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
There when they were up there at the cement plant
doing all that. I just moved out of there. Uh.
And you know I moved down in April. Yeah, and
April moved out of there. But I go back down
there because I have friends, like I said, all over
down through there. But now I know that the officer
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that we talked to, Todd, he told us that they
had investigators down there and they that this Lewis was
burning up you know, their time and the taxpayers money
and everything on this. But they have to investigate it
and everything, you know, once it comes through their office.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And how are you familiar with. There was another report
to that Lewis and his buddies they found a skull
out in the desert. Now, but that's not there.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That was forty miles away from that area.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, okay, yeah, right, that's another important thing. People seem
to need to know it because I've been involved in
local story. I told you, I'm here in Nevada, and
when we have like the Bundie Ranch ins and then
people think it's it's near Red Rock, they think it's
near prem you know, they think it's near you know,
when you live here, you kind of no, No, that's
forty mile all the way man.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, but people.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Watching people understand that, you know. But uh, you know,
I don't know, but I suld it seems myself personally,
we need help.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, they were showing that school belonged to a kid,
and then I read the report on it. It wasn't
found anywhere near there, and it belonged to a man
in his thirties maybe older.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't remember who they said it belonged to. You know,
that's remember that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, there's been reports that they said.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
They were doing forensics on it. I know, I remember
that part of it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, there was reports that it belonged to an adult
and then there was also reports too that it was
placed there, that it was placed it wasn't even an
indigenous to that Eric's on place that there. Okay, So
and is there anything else you want to tell me
about your situation down or any information you know that
I haven't asked you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, no, I'm just thankful that you know there's good
people out here, you know that help people out, and uh,
you know the homeless people I know and all that
they're not rapists and all that and child molesters and
stuff like that. And I think that you know what
he said, put a black eye on the homeless that
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are down through that area right there.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, that's true. It must make it even harder, right
if you're going to accuse us people make these allegations.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I the homeless people that are in that area are
like my strange family. Yeah, we're all family. If you
go on my Facebook, you can see our thanksgivings together,
all that he gets together and everybody brings something in
the whip, all turkey and dust and.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Him and also on that same issue and everything because
of that incident that he pulled the police have cracked
down on all the homeless all around through there. Uh,
if they are caught pan Ham and in the media
and all that, they're writing them tickets and stuff like that,
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they cracked down real hard because of what this man did.
They would turn their head and go on, you know,
and not bother nobody. But now because of this make
it made it real hard on everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now, what about when he was calling out for reinforcements
and saying, hey, come out, you know all across the
country come out. Did anybody people come out there to
investigate themselves? And what were their conclusions?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yes, we talked to a man in Montana and he
saw that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We talked to a guy out of Montana that's a
radio host and also does a website right and everything,
And like I told him, he talked to me. I
gave him Thomas his number because he wanted to talk
to Thomas. Because Thomas the baby dolls that you saw
down there. Thomas would get the baby dolls and everything
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and then buy material and everything and make little outfits
and use him as a manniguin. And then he would
turn around and make women's clothes for herself to match
the maniguins. That's where the baby dolls came in at.
You know, I told you Thomas is a transsexual, real
sweet person. I don't want nobody to think bad about Thomas.
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But Thomas would take these little baby dolls. He made
a video of it too, and he says, see this
baby's doll, you know, And he was trying to explain that,
you know, he makes women's clothes and he dresses up
in drag, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So he made that video after the allegations. So this
is a video made previous.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Why it was going on, why everything was going on.
He made that.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Now, what about Thomas, Like I.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Said off the air, if you want phone numbers to
everybody I have, I have no problem giving them to you.
I've done talk to everybody. They said, there'd be more
than willing to talk to whoever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, that's good. Now, Now what about Thomas. Thomas ever
talk to Lewis and say, hey, man, you know I
lived there. Those are my donalds. Let me alone.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, Thomas, he posted it on, posted it on the internet.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
They kind of just brush you off. So Lewis, the
people involved with Lewis and all that just brushed us off.
Said that we didn't know what we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They called me a troll. So yeah, and then they
blocked me from answering any of their accusations because I
would go back on and say, now, this is what happened,
and what you're saying didn't happen. You know, and I
know I have proof of because I've been there and
lived there.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So it's impossible for Lewis and his crew and his
buddies to not be aware of you and Faith and
Thomas and all these people and the people who live
there and what your conclusions are.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's that's exactly right. And like I said, I believe
that he got with Pioneer up there in the front
by QT and everything, and they wanted him to go
in there and hunt and find out where all the
camps were and everything. And then when he went off
in his low law world of make believe, they got
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too much heat from it. So Semax, after the reporter
talked to them, got involved in it and they had
him escorted off that property. And then after that, that's
when he went to the ranch and trespassed their got arrested.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
The neat thing is the cops want and let them
search our camp and say, now I know these people
they don't do that, you know, and that's state property.
They couldn't even come on that property.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, the place done told Lewis and everything that they
knew me real good and everything, and that they knew that.
You know that I don't do no drugs. I've never
done drugs. I don't do drugs, you know. And I
don't have I have kids, they're grown, and I feel
like this a little baby is that. You know, somebody
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has to stand up and defend them. You know, they
can't defend themselves. So I saw something like that going on.
I had the place down there, and I'd have it
for to stop to it myself.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Absolutely. Okay, Now, is there is Louis still hanging around
down there? Is he gone?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think they kicked him out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I know that he got arrested and everything. And then
since he got arrested, I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
The guy that owns the uh, the concrete plant had
kicked him off the property. He's not allowed to go
there or he'll get arrested again for criminal trespassing.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay. And how many people did he have with him
in his group?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Oh? God?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Only four or five.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, But then he also said he had some trackers
and everything. I said, well, if them guys are trackers,
I said, I tracked better than any of them. I've
been out in this desert so long. You know what
I'm saying. I could track anybody. I says, why didn't?
Why didn't he find He didn't even bring up Allan's camp,
the one that I told you that got marked down, right, Oh,
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sadn't even bring that one up.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So he didn't even know about that other camp.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, I don't believe he even knows it's there.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh brother, Okay, guys, listen, Thank you so much. Is
there anything else you want to tell us that I
haven't asked you?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah? We could use some prayers. Yeah, I gotta spend
us some help. I got an r V that I
need to get fixed so that it'll run. I can
use some prayers. That's about it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Well, what about Is there anyway for people if they
want to make a donation. A lot of people listen
to the show, and I know they're very sympathetic. You know,
we do a lot of shows on homeless and people
in trouble and stuff. Then any way to send a
donation to you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh for that'd be sweet. It's uh it's three seven
seven seven Cowboy at gmail dot com. Or I can
give you my address. My address, let's not do that,
seventy two eighty one nord Van Arc Road number one, Tucson, Arizona,
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eight five seven four three.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay. But if they want to sing a PayPal, you
have PayPal.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Dode, I got PayPal. No, I don't have a PayPal.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, So if you want to, if you want to
email Cowboy and faith here it's three seven seven seven
Cowboy at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Thank you so much. Guys.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Hey, and if I can help you with any of it,
and you want to talk to everybody else, I'll be
glad to you know, give you every help in hand
I can. Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Maybe we'll follow up on this. We'll talk to Thomas
two after this, but we'll see. I think we got
enough though, But thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
All right, thank you, good night.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Okay, Well there you got an hand. It's the story okay.
By the way, and I just want to throw out
another thing, hits you. I did do with Paris the
Redman the other day, and I said, you know, I said, hey,
and I'm in contact with some of those homeless people
down there, and I camp who lived in there, and
I got all these messages saying, oh, wait for me.
He's so full of it. You know, it's the homeless
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people down there. Yeah, I know the homeless people down there. Okay,
I found them. Okay, So how's that guy's there? Right? Anyway,
So this is the whole story about the Oh my goodness,
the pedal camp and the rape tree and all this
stuff down there in Tucson. That would have made it
all the rage. Everybody's sharing the links that this gentleman
(27:35):
here Lewis Arthur, who goes by many, many different names,
and he runs an organization called Veterans on Patrol. He
turns out he's not actually a veteran, but he talks
the veteran lingo. People have to talk the perimeter and
all that kind of stuff. They you know, they love
to talk. You know. His father's a veteran, his brother's
a veteran, but he's not, but he dresses like a veteran,
and he dresses in you know, military camp lingo and
(27:59):
army boots stuff. Anyway, and he claimed that they were
down there trying to find the homeless so they could
help them get veterans veteran homeless people, they can help
them get their veterans benefits. And there's some allegations that
he even gets his name on there. He becomes the
the what do you call the manager of their veterans'
benefits after they because you know, if you're homeless and
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you're not competent, you know, you need something to manage
your benefits for you. And he wrangles his way into that,
and he discovers this camp, you know, and there was
a septic tank that was half buried into the ground,
and he says, well, this must be a pedal camp,
and that's where they were keeping the kids hostage. I've
got to ask them for any MS thirteen in the
neighborhood too. I should I should have got darn, but
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they seem cool. I'll send them a little email and
I'll do an update for you on Friday night. So anyway,
say that we had the Cowboy and Faith. I have
their full names, I have their addresses. I've checked this out, guys.
I've seen their Facebook pages, their Trump supporters. They don't
know Sorrows. They don't know Hillary. Okay, Hillary was never
down there, you know, and source was never down there,
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and so I think we got to the bottom of
this case, don't you all right? Guys can night. We'll
be back with more of this after these messages
Okay, welcome back to the Opperman Report. I'm your host,
private investigator Ed Opperman. I have on the line a
couple of folks, Cowboy and Yvonne, and they lived at
a camp themselves that was like fifty feet away from
this big famous camp. Everybody's talking about this pedro camp
that the veterans on patrol discovered and put all over YouTube.
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So Cowboy and Yvonne, are you there? Yes, we are, Okay, great,
thank you so much. So give us an idea. Now,
how did you wind up down there at this camp?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I ended up getting hurt as a march of
ma Raine and everything through the Coast Guard and everything
and made me where I couldn't work, And I well,
I'm Social Security and I don't make that much money
to be able to rent a place. So I ended
up staying in the desert for twenty something years until
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my lawyer, lady's friend gave me an rvy I could
get out of the desert. That's what we live in. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Now where you guys living. Now you're still in Tucson.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just do what now?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You still live down there in Tucson, Yes we do, okay,
but now, thank god, you're indoors. You got on r
V A least, right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Now, that's amazing, and here you are. You get injured
and you get social security, but it's not enough to
live on. You can't even live like a decent indoors
and take care of yourself. So how much what do
you get there? How much they give you?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I give that seven hundred a month there.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So no one can live on that, right, It's just
it's disgraceful. Okay, So you wound up down there. Now,
when you were living down you had your own camp
that was nearby this other camp that's become famous.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Right, Yes, I live there and I know everybody that
ever lived in that camp that's in question that you're
speaking of.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, did you watch them actually construct this camp and
you watch them build it all?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
In all?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think the biggest project that ever went on over
there was a friend of Virus named Thomas that's a
transsexual and lived in the plastic tube that they were
saying that where children were being held inside.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They say there was like a septic tank that was
I guess cleaned out and then buried underground.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, it was a septic and everything and Thomas went ahead,
and I'll the whole bunch of debris on top of
it too, you know, so that people it wouldn't stick
out like a sore eye, and nobody would come in
and raige and steal his personal belongings.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Now, but I've been on the desk. I'm just telling
you your wife there that I live in Nevada. Now,
wouldn't it be hotter inside a plastic container like that?
In the ground there is a cooler.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's cooler because it's under shade and everything. And then
it's plus it's also white, okay, And with everything that
was put on top of it, it stayed completely in
the shade.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Something like that. Thomas didn't stay there during the day,
stayed there at night.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay. That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
To go to the library or something during the day, ok.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right, Right, because when when you're when you're you don't
have a home, you go to the library and stuff
with that, you go to the mall places public places
where have air conditioning, right, and a bathroom you can use.
You go to the rec center.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right and then and then also uh before that, uh,
there was a man named Alan that's a homosexual friend
of ours that lived also at that camp. And then
after that, we have a friend called mad Max, which
right now they're they're in Denver. They're going to be
(03:45):
back here after a little bit, but they lived in
that camp.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
He's the one that set up all the straps and
stuff to actually hang parts and stuff in that camp.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The straps were literally used to all food up off
the ground so the halloweleenas wouldn't tear into your groceries.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Right now, I've actually seen I've been to your Facebook
page and I've seen how you have your camp set up.
Things are tied up. It's very nice and neat, so
very very well kept. You got your kitchen there, you
got your wreck area, all that kind of stuff, and
you've got things off the ground so that the animals
don't come and critics don't come and getting your food
and stuff and you the bugs and things.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right yeah, farre, The halloween is that they tear into anything.
I mean, if they can get through it, that they'll
get in it somehow.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now, I spent a lot of time in in Tucson myself,
and halloleenas are like these wild pigs with the real
bristles on them. They got like a uh, well hard
and they nothing to fool around with it another to
fool around with it. You see what coming.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
If you went down to the camp that we stayed
that under that big tree in everything, Uh, when we
left and everything and gave it to some friends so
that they'd have a place safe to lay down and
all that, it was clean. Uh when we went back
and saw it as how they left that camp, it
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was trashed out. Like BFI backed up and dumped all
the garbage in one spot.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
BFI, who's that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Uh? That's garbage pick up okaye, like waste management. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you're saying to by the way, you're saying that
these these things that people are calling the rape tree
with these straps that allegedly were used to rape children
from were actually used to hang up to keep things
off the ground. Is that to clarify that right?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, that's that is correct. I used alets i hung
up on ropes to keep it off the ground. But
they were using straps and different things to die up,
and then some of them had poles go through them
straps to put a tarp over for when it rains.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Gotcha, Now, have you ever seen little kids or anything
with any children whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Never saw any children through there. The only children that
teenagers that I have saw were up there by qt
There's a tunnel that goes under the highway to the
neighborhood there, and the kids would go down there and
right there and gang signs and all that under there,
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and you know, smoking or whatever they wanted. But they
were never up by that camp. The only time I
ever seen knew about that. The only time I ever
seen him up that way was further down from the
cement plant. We had Alan had a camp over there,
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and they went over there to set his camp on fire.
That's the only time I've seen him go that far.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We had to call the police if they could come out,
and what do you call that? Take care of the fire?
Everybody out there that day, all right, milcopters.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So then the police are aware of this camp then
before there was right, Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, they know all of us. I am
good standing with the police. If you look on the Facebook,
you'll see Officer Robert holding a rope on a horse
that we rescued that got lost out there in the desert,
and it looked like it got hit by a car
a couple of times. And I am good. I have
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a good report with all the police officers over in
that area and everything. They now, boys, you can't over
talk on me like that. So then so anyway, the
police know me real good. And they even stated after
they got rid of Lewis and everything that I was
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welcome to go back down there and stay at that camp.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Okay, wash And what about the Cement planned people, you know,
before we get into all that, and there was a
swing there. They said, oh, this is a swing and
they probably had these swing to keep the children occupied
between the raping sessions. Well, what do you make of
that swing?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know this guy. I think that he takes
something and then builds it into a story and everything,
and then exaggerates as he goes and it gets bigger
and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We'll talk to other reporters and stuff, and they think
he was just trying to make a name for himself.
They just well they thought it was something and ram
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well. One one report ridiculous. One record recording that we
heard was a reporter calling Semax and he said they
were affiliated with the Clintons and the Obama people and
donating a lot of money to them. And what I
believe is that Premier Rock right there in front of
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the cement plant there. I think they got him to
go down there and see who all was living down
there and everything, because they wanted him off the property.
And I think that's how this thing offs got started.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wait a second, you're saying that you think the Semax
company hired Lewis Arthur Lewis or Lewis Arthur, So didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I said that that's owned also by k miror Iron
theer Rock and everything, and that's part of Semax and everything.
And I did hear a recording with another reporter talking
to their headquarters for Seamax, and he's the one who
(09:40):
told us that they were affiliated with the Obama the
Clintons donations, and that's what I think happened. They went
with him and everything and wanted to know who all
was camping back there, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
We also called the veterans on patrol and they said
that they were not connected to this guy at all.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh really. Now let me ask you this though, now,
because I've seen both your Facebook pages and you guys
are very active Trump fans. You're fans of Donald Trump
the president, right.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I am active and support anybody that's going to
put my country first. I don't care if it's Republican
or Democrat, that doesn't matter. What I judge a person
on is what is he doing for the country, What
is he doing to you know, for jobs, people that
(10:32):
are poor and everything. Is he going to get the
economy kicked off and get it running again? And then
how he articulates his words and how he handles hisself
as an individual well.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And hopefully he'll he'll increase the Social Security benefits for
people that are there out in the street. They're suffering, right,
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's so sad that the cost of living is so
high and everything, you know, that they don't take better
care of us. You know, I'm in my sixties as
well as I and I have disability and everything. I
can only walked so far and I had to stop.
(11:12):
I got you, you know, I can only walk very
so far about where I'm at right now to my gate,
and I got to stop.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So you guys living down there, you never saw Hillary
Clinton or George Sorows coming by the rape little children
or anything.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now, I'm sure you asked Lewis, he said that they're
on there they're on their trail.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's right, that's right there, they're hot on the trail,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Did you know this guy Lewis before all this?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, they came. They tried to calm down through there
in the wash, and there's a camp and everything, and
there's a rule out here that you yell hey incoming
anybody in the camp. Just like if you're living up
in the mountains, you don't go up to somebody's cabin.
(12:06):
You y hey, anybody in the cabin. You know what
I mean, Sure, you announce yourself. Well, they wouldn't do that.
And then I told him to stop, and they didn't
want to stop, and I had to get off and
go out there and tell him, look, man, this is
my place where I'm living and everything. You're not welcome here,
you don't, you know, just come barging in on somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Absolutely. When I was a teenager in New York City,
I used to live in squat or apartments. He used
to squat and he's a band in buildings and stuff
like that as a teenager, so I know what you're
talking about. And you don't walk into another man's camp
or another man's squat. You know who knows coming in.
It's very defensive in that kind of situation. So that's right, right, yeah,
So now, so so Lewis is disrespectful in this kind
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of way that he just comes walking into people's camp, right.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It was very disrespectful. And then when you tried to
tell him, I had to literally, you know, get forceful
and say, look, you need to go home, keep going,
you know. And then they want to give us a
gift card, you know, if they could come in and
interview us and talk with us. And I told him
I didn't need their gift card that, you know, if
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they're going to be disrespectful and they need to go home,
you know, we did anybody, the police officers, Tucson Police
Department and everything. Even when they come down, they'll say,
ay income and it's you know, Tucson Police Department. And
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then you know they'll stop at the edge, you know,
and they won't even come in unless you say, we'll
call in.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know absolutely, you know, you wouldn't walk into someone's home.
So if someone's living, you know, outside, you're not going
to walk into the camp. That's very disrespectful. Now, did
did Lewis ever try and come to you did anybody,
any of the local people besides yourself, try and tell Louis,
hey man, we know the people who live in this camp.
It's not a pedal camp and these aren't rape trees,
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and anybody trying to tell him.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
We even made a video and put it on, and
then we also talked to everybody. And then, like I said,
I know everybody and anybody that lives around through there,
all the way to the Pema Community College, all the
way to the casino. I know all the only people.
I had the phone numbers to everybody that's ever lived
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back there in that camp or anything. We always talk.
And yeah, he was told by back and forth, Look,
you're fabricating something. You're lying because we know Cowboy and everything.
The police even told him they knew me and that
I was no trouble to nobody and stuff like that.
Even the rancher told him that you know that Cowboys
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a old man and he's been there forever and he
don't bother nobody.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And also that rancher is a very nice man. He's
cotting down before and made sure we had plenty of water,
you know, like if he got hot like I did today,
he would have came down there and checked to make
sure we have water that were okay.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Did you know that Lewis got arrested for and handcuffed
and all Walt is bopany not long ago? About what
a week? Yeah, about a week ago? Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I've been I've been following this. I've been following
his whole He's been arrested many times. He does a
lot of stunty climbs up on flagpoles and get some
stuff arrested and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, about the flag out, he went up there, admit
he needs to and he's going to THEA and get
on some edge to control his illusions.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Why do you think it's widely reported.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's like he's schizophrenic?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Really? And what about did you notice any drug use
with this group the veterans on patrol maybe they're using
drugs or anything.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, I did, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now the police came out and investigated. Did you talk
to the police, Yes, I did. And what did the
police say to you?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
They just I can't remember exactly was they said. They
knew that you know, he was fabricating it and making
things up and everything, and you know, they talked to
us for a little while and everything. And I told him,
I says, well, you know, all you got to do
is just use good common sense. And you can see
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this man is wanting to make a name for herself.
And uh, I think he wants to put hisself in
the rim light and everything like a movie star or something.
His name that number, one one six one one officer Todd.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, great, that's good, one six one one officer Todd.
Now how many cops came out though to investigate this?
Did they take pictures and videos and measure stuff? You know,
see cops do I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
There when they were up there at the cement plant
doing all that. I just moved out of there. Uh.
And you know I moved down in April. Yeah, and
April moved out of there. But I go back down
there because I have friends, like I said, all over
down through there. But now I know that the officer
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that we talked to, Todd, he told us that they
had investigators down there and they that this Lewis was
burning up you know, their time and the taxpayers money
and everything on this. But they have to investigate it
and everything, you know, once it comes through their office.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And how are you familiar with. There was another report
to that Lewis and his buddies they found a skull
out in the desert. Now, but that's not there.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That was forty miles away from that area.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, okay, yeah, right, that's another important thing. People seem
to need to know it because I've been involved in
local story. I told you, I'm here in Nevada, and
when we have like the Bundie Ranch ins and then
people think it's it's near Red Rock, they think it's
near prem you know, they think it's near you know,
when you live here, you kind of no, No, that's
forty mile all the way man.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, but people.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Watching people understand that, you know. But uh, you know,
I don't know, but I suld it seems myself personally,
we need help.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, they were showing that school belonged to a kid,
and then I read the report on it. It wasn't
found anywhere near there, and it belonged to a man
in his thirties maybe older.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't remember who they said it belonged to. You know,
that's remember that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, there's been reports that they said.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
They were doing forensics on it. I know, I remember
that part of it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, there was reports that it belonged to an adult
and then there was also reports too that it was
placed there, that it was placed it wasn't even an
indigenous to that Eric's on place that there. Okay, So
and is there anything else you want to tell me
about your situation down or any information you know that
I haven't asked you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, no, I'm just thankful that you know there's good
people out here, you know that help people out, and uh,
you know the homeless people I know and all that
they're not rapists and all that and child molesters and
stuff like that. And I think that you know what
he said, put a black eye on the homeless that
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are down through that area right there.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, that's true. It must make it even harder, right
if you're going to accuse us people make these allegations.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I the homeless people that are in that area are
like my strange family. Yeah, we're all family. If you
go on my Facebook, you can see our thanksgivings together,
all that he gets together and everybody brings something in
the whip, all turkey and dust and.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Him and also on that same issue and everything because
of that incident that he pulled the police have cracked
down on all the homeless all around through there. Uh,
if they are caught pan Ham and in the media
and all that, they're writing them tickets and stuff like that,
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they cracked down real hard because of what this man did.
They would turn their head and go on, you know,
and not bother nobody. But now because of this make
it made it real hard on everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now, what about when he was calling out for reinforcements
and saying, hey, come out, you know all across the
country come out. Did anybody people come out there to
investigate themselves? And what were their conclusions?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yes, we talked to a man in Montana and he
saw that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We talked to a guy out of Montana that's a
radio host and also does a website right and everything,
And like I told him, he talked to me. I
gave him Thomas his number because he wanted to talk
to Thomas. Because Thomas the baby dolls that you saw
down there. Thomas would get the baby dolls and everything
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and then buy material and everything and make little outfits
and use him as a manniguin. And then he would
turn around and make women's clothes for herself to match
the maniguins. That's where the baby dolls came in at.
You know, I told you Thomas is a transsexual, real
sweet person. I don't want nobody to think bad about Thomas.
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But Thomas would take these little baby dolls. He made
a video of it too, and he says, see this
baby's doll, you know, And he was trying to explain that,
you know, he makes women's clothes and he dresses up
in drag, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So he made that video after the allegations. So this
is a video made previous.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Why it was going on, why everything was going on.
He made that.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Now, what about Thomas, Like I.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Said off the air, if you want phone numbers to
everybody I have, I have no problem giving them to you.
I've done talk to everybody. They said, there'd be more
than willing to talk to whoever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, that's good. Now, Now what about Thomas. Thomas ever
talk to Lewis and say, hey, man, you know I
lived there. Those are my donalds. Let me alone.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, Thomas, he posted it on, posted it on the internet.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
They kind of just brush you off. So Lewis, the
people involved with Lewis and all that just brushed us off.
Said that we didn't know what we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They called me a troll. So yeah, and then they
blocked me from answering any of their accusations because I
would go back on and say, now, this is what happened,
and what you're saying didn't happen. You know, and I
know I have proof of because I've been there and
lived there.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So it's impossible for Lewis and his crew and his
buddies to not be aware of you and Faith and
Thomas and all these people and the people who live
there and what your conclusions are.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's that's exactly right. And like I said, I believe
that he got with Pioneer up there in the front
by QT and everything, and they wanted him to go
in there and hunt and find out where all the
camps were and everything. And then when he went off
in his low law world of make believe, they got
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too much heat from it. So Semax, after the reporter
talked to them, got involved in it and they had
him escorted off that property. And then after that, that's
when he went to the ranch and trespassed their got arrested.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
The neat thing is the cops want and let them
search our camp and say, now I know these people
they don't do that, you know, and that's state property.
They couldn't even come on that property.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, the place done told Lewis and everything that they
knew me real good and everything, and that they knew that.
You know that I don't do no drugs. I've never
done drugs. I don't do drugs, you know. And I
don't have I have kids, they're grown, and I feel
like this a little baby is that. You know, somebody
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has to stand up and defend them. You know, they
can't defend themselves. So I saw something like that going on.
I had the place down there, and I'd have it
for to stop to it myself.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Absolutely. Okay, Now, is there is Louis still hanging around
down there? Is he gone?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think they kicked him out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I know that he got arrested and everything. And then
since he got arrested, I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
The guy that owns the uh, the concrete plant had
kicked him off the property. He's not allowed to go
there or he'll get arrested again for criminal trespassing.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay. And how many people did he have with him
in his group?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Oh? God?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Only four or five.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, But then he also said he had some trackers
and everything. I said, well, if them guys are trackers,
I said, I tracked better than any of them. I've
been out in this desert so long. You know what
I'm saying. I could track anybody. I says, why didn't?
Why didn't he find He didn't even bring up Allan's camp,
the one that I told you that got marked down, right, Oh,
(25:05):
sadn't even bring that one up.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So he didn't even know about that other camp.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, I don't believe he even knows it's there.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh brother, Okay, guys, listen, Thank you so much. Is
there anything else you want to tell us that I
haven't asked you?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah? We could use some prayers. Yeah, I gotta spend
us some help. I got an r V that I
need to get fixed so that it'll run. I can
use some prayers. That's about it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Well, what about Is there anyway for people if they
want to make a donation. A lot of people listen
to the show, and I know they're very sympathetic. You know,
we do a lot of shows on homeless and people
in trouble and stuff. Then any way to send a
donation to you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh for that'd be sweet. It's uh it's three seven
seven seven Cowboy at gmail dot com. Or I can
give you my address. My address, let's not do that,
seventy two eighty one nord Van Arc Road number one, Tucson, Arizona,
(26:11):
eight five seven four three.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay. But if they want to sing a PayPal, you
have PayPal.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Dode, I got PayPal. No, I don't have a PayPal.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, So if you want to, if you want to
email Cowboy and faith here it's three seven seven seven
Cowboy at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Thank you so much. Guys.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Hey, and if I can help you with any of it,
and you want to talk to everybody else, I'll be
glad to you know, give you every help in hand
I can. Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Maybe we'll follow up on this. We'll talk to Thomas
two after this, but we'll see. I think we got
enough though, But thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
All right, thank you, good night.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Okay, Well there you got an hand. It's the story okay.
By the way, and I just want to throw out
another thing, hits you. I did do with Paris the
Redman the other day, and I said, you know, I said, hey,
and I'm in contact with some of those homeless people
down there, and I camp who lived in there, and
I got all these messages saying, oh, wait for me.
He's so full of it. You know, it's the homeless
(27:11):
people down there. Yeah, I know the homeless people down there. Okay,
I found them. Okay, So how's that guy's there? Right? Anyway,
So this is the whole story about the Oh my goodness,
the pedal camp and the rape tree and all this
stuff down there in Tucson. That would have made it
all the rage. Everybody's sharing the links that this gentleman
(27:35):
here Lewis Arthur, who goes by many, many different names,
and he runs an organization called Veterans on Patrol. He
turns out he's not actually a veteran, but he talks
the veteran lingo. People have to talk the perimeter and
all that kind of stuff. They you know, they love
to talk. You know. His father's a veteran, his brother's
a veteran, but he's not, but he dresses like a veteran,
and he dresses in you know, military camp lingo and
(27:59):
army boots stuff. Anyway, and he claimed that they were
down there trying to find the homeless so they could
help them get veterans veteran homeless people, they can help
them get their veterans benefits. And there's some allegations that
he even gets his name on there. He becomes the
the what do you call the manager of their veterans'
benefits after they because you know, if you're homeless and
(28:20):
you're not competent, you know, you need something to manage
your benefits for you. And he wrangles his way into that,
and he discovers this camp, you know, and there was
a septic tank that was half buried into the ground,
and he says, well, this must be a pedal camp,
and that's where they were keeping the kids hostage. I've
got to ask them for any MS thirteen in the
neighborhood too. I should I should have got darn, but
(28:42):
they seem cool. I'll send them a little email and
I'll do an update for you on Friday night. So anyway,
say that we had the Cowboy and Faith. I have
their full names, I have their addresses. I've checked this out, guys.
I've seen their Facebook pages, their Trump supporters. They don't
know Sorrows. They don't know Hillary. Okay, Hillary was never
down there, you know, and source was never down there,
(29:04):
and so I think we got to the bottom of
this case, don't you all right? Guys can night. We'll
be back with more of this after these messages
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