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haven't been told exactly what time I'm going on, but
I'm pretty sure I'm doing a telephon tomorrow, which will
be a lot of fun little telethon sign I think
I'm gonna be talking about Michael Cohen and this little ladele,
this latest scandal with Michael Cohen, where this genius. You
gotta love this guy, man, you know you gotta love

(03:58):
this guy, This genius what he does is you got
to pay off some money to a porn star, right,
and I can sympathize with these things come up. Get
every now and then you gotta make a payoff. Great,
these things come up and okay, and Michael Cody's been
around the block. He's a fixer, right, He's a real
sharp guy. By the way. You know, this guy used

(04:20):
to have his law office in the back of a
cab company. He told me he's a taxicab Medallions in
New York City. So there's a great article, I think
it's in the New York Times about how this guy's
this best psion, how this guy walked up here in
this situation, and it's just you know, he was Boke
Greate tax Medllions, and when these vacxie management companies went in,

(04:42):
then it was like saying he had more taxis than Medallions,
which a common thing that goes on with these taxi
medallions in New York. Do not know about this, but
I used to have a horse and carriage made in
New York's when I get my nightclub deal, when I
brought into the nightclub. He's own nightclub back in New
York City, in order to get into that deal. I
loan went to the the curt Horse in order to

(05:03):
buy a steak in the club. But I was smart.
I didn't just say, well, okay, let me just buy
a steak in this club. I said, I buy a
steak in the club, but I want security money. I'm
bundy up. I want I want to put a lien
on something. So we always had a cab dads and
carried medallion which was worth several hundred thousand dollars. And
then when the club went out of business, I said, well,
you know I want my money back. Yeah, it's time

(05:25):
for you guys to pay me. You know I'm able
to make my coin. So let me get him going
on the phone to take you out of myself. I say,
So what we did was, as a matter of fact,
I believe I had a couple of both of these guys,
and we got in our car. We had a we
had a limousine and a car, and we chased in
the horse and we pulled it over with our cars
like paddles. They were like horse these and we don't look.

(05:48):
I gotta I got a pretty seous mettallion over your
horse and carriage and then you said, these Irish cab
hands cab drivers back, and I had to make fun
of the Irish. Now they got Shane, he put me
out over that. Seane McKay helped me out with the
audience like that. But we actually a hijack. I'm not
Jack's legal what we did. And we commentered this a

(06:10):
horse and carriage, and we recaptured my handsome cab medallion
back into my position, which then we put on the
open mark and we soulder. Oh, there was so many
fine against the damn thing too. I wanted to bluse
money and I deal, anyway, what are you gonna go? Cohen? Uh?
This carroard here? What is she like? He said, So
he's got to steal. We has to pay off a
porn star. Okay, fine, you know, and I could see

(06:32):
getting an assignment, and we need to take care of
this monk story. We need to negotiated deal and make
the name it, you know. And well at least he
what he all right, because I would kind of say, well, yeah,
just convert money into cash and bring it over and
get a receipt. I'll drive over there with it one
hundred and thirty k Okay, I'll ride my bike. I
got the tyre offis I can ride my bike over there.

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So I cant understand it? Shut a hip star, can't
you promout? Okay, these things happenma. So Michael Cohen goes
and he set this little company, an ll seam called
Essential Consultant. A consulting company is a good way because no,
you have no inventory or nothing. You don't know, I
need a location. It's an easy way to open up
a bank account. Hey, I got a consulting cup, open

(07:15):
a bank. It's a bank, right, and the work and
it's no great and this is all too It's not
like you have to go out and get licensed. There's
all simple stuff. You just file an LLC of course,
like two hundred bus. You take a state. It's favorable,
by the way, and the very favorable for this kind
of thing, because Nevada doesn't ord anything to the federal government.
Did you know that if you open up an ll
state or corporation in Nevada, they don't want anything to

(07:37):
do with gup okay, and there's no state tax here
ei there, So it's very beneficial to have a corporation
in state of Nevada. There's other sticks as well, but
up for Nevada every when I'm paying what my porn
starts now, so too in state of Una two, you
don't have to there. You can hire a bridge agent.
You don't have the name president of the corporation. You
can have a registered agent and have the The officers

(08:01):
of the company can be held silent as well. You
don't have to list their nicks in the corporus paper.
No know someone's corporation, and a lot of stuff benefits
of corporation. But anyway, I think he chose a Delaware
corporation and has a lot of the same befits on
faceable activity to pay off this points call for Michael
Cohen and his old WI. What he decides to do
is he then joses that same creation. It was just

(08:27):
set up ten days for the election to pick off
Stormy Daniels one hundred and thirty thousand bucks to go
around and start shaking down all these companies eighteen and
this Korean arms manufactur and in this Russian oligard has
a cousin in the United States, so the company is
under his cud's name where they do it as a
pharmaceutical company. I think he got like four million buster

(08:51):
in that guy, right, so you know, listen and they're
staying on TV. Well, this is to get access to
the president and call him certain master of the President.
But how much about access do you need to pay
for million? Those for it? Even a C and C
wasn't paying for I don't paid like a million and
they're paying fifty thousand a month. So there's obviously more
going on with these shakedowns, these Michael Cohen shakedowns that

(09:14):
I would assume from my experience it's been being all shakedowns,
just all like this. Okay, so I would suspect him
by the way too, now what I want to do, right,
it may have gotten a little bit over his head
in that situation here. Now I know a little bit
about obtaining I just talked about him, and I'll commits
myself said exchange and why did my assets? There's just

(09:37):
are s e r a come on fake credit for
not compliant and the reason why implying it. First of all,
I taught a class it's private investigators and other people
doing employment screening and stuff like that, on how to
do essay compliant employment screening investigations. Okay, so I know
a little bit about aarry and what and you're obtaining

(09:58):
heals prit banking in information. It's a real slippery slope.
And I even happened to notice. Okay, maybe a lot
of other people didn't notice this, but Michael lava Native
two weeks ago posted on Twitter complaining about Hocus okay,
which is like an information broker type company. Well stash
one of the perciess on lio. I've worked for some

(10:20):
of the biggest ones myself. Okay, a lot of them
will have private investigators on retainer that they purchased information from.
I always an information broker business buying information email over
the commists or of invation brokens instead of want to
buy an full number and the managerial for a number
playing that we still have infition we buy it in
something it may But Michael Lavanadi I noticed, but we
could go two weeks ago mentioned DOCKU. Certainly I'm plaining

(10:40):
about how they were violating Privacy Act by obtaining people's
UH banking information. Okay, so it seems to me a
two weeks before he was out hopping around for someone's
the funnest banking it and he kept going on ears
and he want the UH. I guess it's the Federal
Reserve who issues these suspicious transition reports. No, it's suspicious

(11:02):
activity reports. Okay, this twtem kind of suspicious transaction reports
and suspicious activity reports. Okay, So Michael Lovnati was going on,
I want they should be released in suspicious activity reports.
And oh mean someone whom had answers to suspicious activity
reports got on their little computer and looked up Michael Cohen,
got the information and slipped over to go old Michael Lavanati.

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Now Michael Labanati could find himself in the jetpot here,
and I'll tell you why when they first passed the
laws against pretexting, which is that they made it unlawful
to obtain people's personal banking information back in the I
guess it was in the nineties nineties. I ain't old
it or something about this hill. We used to do
this back in the old Dad, and you wanted to

(11:45):
get some personal business and personal banking information, what I
would do is this. Let's say I want to investigate
Danny Romero, the owner of from Freedom Rail. I don't
get a copy of his zoo statements. I don't know
how much he won add in his bank account. What
I would do is first that wants some reports. I
find his date of birthday, find a social security number,
try and find out his mother's maiden named, just in
case you know. I got said, and I called the

(12:07):
bank and I say, hey, I'm Danning Romaro. He lost
my bank statement. I need to know how much money
I have in my account. I don't have my card
in front of at the moment. Can you have met her?
And he said, oh, America, can you tell you your
birth can you tell your address where you live? It's
the low security number. I get all that information. He's
okay to get that. Okay, that's that's five minutes. I'm
with the data based companies, right, you get this inforation

(12:28):
right away. But that's how you do look it. That's
how you do search. It'll listen to me. She called that,
I'm him and I get all that information. And I said, well, yes,
mister Merrow, you have ten thousand dollar your bank account,
in your American Freedom Radio business account. I can't be
your swisticount. You've got a million dollars okay, right supposedly, Okay,
maybe maybe have the wrong data Romer, not the wrong daddy,
But that's how you did this in the old days,

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and that was per love. That was no prompt the
pass some laws, the Graham Baileys, the Act and uh
Testing Act, all kinds of stuff like this Act. Look
but if I was writing Ancle, I had many articles
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You'll find my articles on in many or.

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So.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's the law. Do anyone it's unlawful to do that.
And what happened was is that after they passed the law,
they needed to make an example out of somebody. And
who do they choose. They choose my friend Victor Well,
I knew how many many years on Stanton down he
had a little information broke. The company wasn't a big company.
It was a one man show, you know. And it
was one of these guys who going access to the
mission was buying his song information like a lot of

(13:34):
guys were doing battas, and they said and tc. The
Federal Trade Mission set him up. And what they did
was they'd had an agent contact him and she claimed
that she was just about to get she was engaged
as man, they were just about to get married and
she was suspicious about his finances and his credit. And oh, mister,
I don't want to say victory. This lest same, but
oh mister, can you help me here. I'm just about

(13:56):
to marrige. I'm having cole feet, and yet I'll do
it for you. I'd say, what fringe your bot? Whatever
you try. Back then, you couldn't get a lot of
inter this kind of stuff any producer for for bank
accounts with the dolls come into this guy's house. They
made him the afy seas and can't arrest you, but

(14:19):
they can sue you. They shut you down, they seize
your assets and they suit and they sued him. In
order to settle, he had to payback holl he never
made and agree never to shut that business and you know,
move away and he'd lose an upstateing the ark right now,
a broken man now, but told me everything else all
right now, So Michael levanide right now pretty much is

(14:39):
to suit the heay he somehow obtained, uh, Michael Cohens
a personal banking a man and there's this banking information
with autorization. And not only did you go to that
extentsive of anybody public, there's a bullsy move this is
the span would do. I wouldn't take that risk, even
in a case this big, where the whole press and
needy and the judges are all behind because everybody hates Trump.
Is still sticking your neck out where way, way more

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Okay, welcome back to the Opera Report. I'm your host
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By the way, he wrote a seven page executive summer.
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message resident Michael and Twitter account. Why he is Google
you can find it and he's a very interesting that
so many people are happen to know mention a couple
of friends of mine in there, which is a whole
nother piece of misery in my life. He has seven
eight exact stormy he called it, right, and then very
interesting to the first one in this thing, he says,
this is the image we know as of this state,

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maybe updated and we may be able to have to
confirm some things. Brad Waite is at disclaimer right at
the top of this thing. As soon as they read
this say is he doing this?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Why is Michael having I saying, hey, there could be
more information we might be coming up in mursion not
why now he only produced in his report deposits that
went to this account. And I don't have the deposits
that he knewbout because we found out from the Swimmer's
companies they're like AT and T. They gave a lot
more money to Cohen than Alvin ninety told in his
uh exiit seven pages summary there. But what he does

(18:25):
show is the orals from this account withdrawals or the
transfers or the payments that come out of that account.
But now, in my opinion, he has to have them
that there's I can't imagine how he would uh get
a report that would only have the deposits. Some people
are speculating that he got the New York customer reports.

(18:46):
By the way, he's to his wall, know your customer,
when all this doesn't happened in tents one that change
the banking law. That it's pathetic and I know all
this stuff, you know what I mean. It's pathetic that
I know all this stuff. But this is just my
work man, this is what I do for a living. Guys,
not it's not all climberus O. I know know your customer?

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
After two thousand and one World tiphonding what they did.
We made these new laws and regulations. And you go
in and or try to open up a bank account,
they have to ask you all kinds of questions to
know who you are, and echoes were reported playing on
Micalambattis and how that access to By the way, too,
the reason why when you call up the bank and
you can't get your own information from your own account,

(19:27):
and they ask you all those questions and they annoy
the hell out of you for ten minutes, that's because
of this Grand Bailey some people called Grand Bli, some
people called Grand Bailly. Haven't gotten straced upont how to
pronounce it, but some congressman passed and the hooks bonded bill.
And the reason why when you call up and you're
on the phone for them for twenty minutes verifying and
who you are by giving your social security I mean,

(19:49):
is because of that law. Okay, so by the way,
it's still better if you want it, but it's not
worth the hassle. But it can still be done. Michael
Lavanatti has to have come. He's also too of where
this money went. He has to have the withdrawals, he
has to have the dispersals of the wire transfers or
payments from a debit card, if they even issued a
debit card on this account, but or checked if they've

(20:12):
issued him checks in this he's gonna have to Okay,
he's gonna have Billy Wentz and I guarantee it is
Mueller and wel Schneiderman whoever's running the case, because it's
just so happens that the guy who was running this
investigation in the southern district of Manhattan over there turns
out to be a pervert, okay, who's beating the woes

(20:32):
off and he's in Mesoda. He had to resign his job.
What a story we are link guys in him in history.
That's gonna go down in history in this country like
you cannot have mad. And when you see they have
these conventions, JFP conventions and these gay countries, Glenn Laudney
and the Woodward and Bernstein and Junt. Twenty thirty years

(20:56):
from now, they're gonna have conventions about the Trump the
Trump rudder Gate whatever they're gonna call, you know, and
all the characters gonna show up the world and be
old and show looking with cane and stuff like that.
But this could be going down in history at a time.
And now I don't know how people can still say
there's no Russian collusion when we have a Russian oligar
giving four million dollars to Michael Cohen, when we had

(21:19):
the Steel dossier, and a lot of people I'll get
these comments. Rapper people said, well, that's it's been better
show me by who is in discredit. It's been just
show me, show me where I'm the Wayne did a
left show last week on Friday night where I sat
back and I took phone calls. I said all day
long on Twitter, on Facebook, and I said, tell me,
call me up and tell me I'm wrong. Show me
what Dante's and discredited. No one's been able to do

(21:41):
this yet. I've showed you plu and it's not. Take
point to the PA is the part where he said
that Michael Cohen never went to Prague. Because Michael Cohen
pulled out his best part and said, look, I had
never been to Prague. We find out now he suspect
Mlashy did. M Flashy did a report saying that he did.
I shouted about you went to I'm over there no too,

(22:02):
just because she showed his passport. Paul Manaford had like
four or five passports, which seems to be kind of
common with people in these areas too, that they're able
to get multiple. I saw where when I was in
that whole Sarah Handla thing, this person inserted their waste
my life and she's trying to get me to help
her get phony passports and to try and like to
set me up. I didn't take the bait, though, Man,

(22:24):
I'm too smart for that. Just smart, just smart for you. Okay.
Another thing that came up this week and involved this
whole wacky situation here with Michael Cohen, and is what
Julianni just today announced, Okay, after he screwed me on
Michael Cohen for selling influence, he just announced that he's
resigning from his law firm to devote his time of

(22:46):
full time h to messing up Donald Trump's Okay, Sarah,
with this gate, with this Muller investation, by way, bye,
it is Rudy Giuliani. It is if he's working for Trump,
representing Trump in Muller investigation, the Special Prosecutor's investigation. Why
is he sticking his nose into this stormy day? Why

(23:07):
is he thinking about it at all? Why is he
even is hurting himself in that he can comment or anything?
It just makes sense whatsoever. It's the biggest blunder. Trump
shouldn't be talking about any of this. I thing, I
haven't been talking to any of this. Wh I was
the investigator involved in this case with't pace the clown
can out of here want anything to do with it.
This is crazy. But Giuliani just resigns from his own

(23:29):
personal law for why does he do that? WHA? He
doesn't what happened with Michael Cohen? How's that.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
All right?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
When he say I don't want this scrutiny? Did you
know that Juliani picked up as superball math fort clients
over there in Ukraine and all stuff like that when
math Forork got with the Jackpott p Per Salon. Now, okay,
did you know that? Okay, now we got Juliani picks
up all those clients. Now he sees the scrutiny. By
the way, man, now I'm wondering, See, I don't think

(23:57):
that the Giuliani and Trump really knew about Oh this
is suspicious acting going on in Cohen's because if they did,
it's the last thing maybe talking about home withity loans
and all this crazy talk and all and Trump pete
it back. I can't imagine they would even go near
that can of worms unless they are suicidal and just

(24:19):
as totally company and well it was to have Rob
Shuter shut on the showte and uh, I don't know
what's going on now. He emailed me twelve saying him
what happened was call A three. We tried to call him,
got his voicemail, so we missed that on him. But
we have coming up in the next ninety minutes. James Dougenio,

(24:43):
who was from the website U Kennedy'sanking dot Com and
he just has a brand new book that just came out,
called on me. Here is wrestling to find it JFCA
assassination the evidence today, okay, and uh what he called
So he's gonna be coming on. We're gonna be talking
about the King assassination. I just had him on for

(25:04):
an hour the other day, like yesterday. I think I
taped him. I don't remember. I'm so exhausted and losing
my mind here, but we taped with him for an
hour the other day. We talked about MLK assassination and
his new book The JFK Assassination, Assassination of the evidence
today and today I'm gonna try and get him to
talk to about Malcolm X and the RFK assassination. But

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he's an excellent you knows those stuff run at the
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So we'll be getting in today now, don't forget tomorrow,
going to be live doing Amy Valola Amy four The
people dot com is run for Congressional District CD four

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here in Nevada. Daughter Vic volunteers over there, and we're
going to be there to show doing a fun Talithan.
I'm going to be simulcasting it a spreaker at least
if I can get this left. I'm going if I
have time today, we'll get the laptop going and Olly

(26:09):
I'll have on a wake radio as well. Okay, So
I don't know what I was Probably good. I was
planning on talking about Michael Cohen and getting into this
whole thing about how here we see Trump is supposed
to be draining the swamp and here with my dad, Yeah,
we're talking about millions, fifty thousand here a month, hundred
thousand a month, here, one hundred thousand a month there
being dropped into this Michael Cohen clown lap with a

(26:33):
little bit of influence he can have over Trump. You're
talking about draining the swamp. This is a flooding swamp.
This added alligators to the swamp. You know what I mean?
This is you know, it seeks to the swamp. So
this is the opposite of draining the swamp. But if
we get someone like Amy Vellolla, it's a kind of
that'll be actually draining the swamp and we'll see uh,

(26:54):
actually dry land instead of swamp. Let Amy's a sweetheart
and she's I'm running for Congress down here. And if
you listen to my past shows I've done with Iman
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wife in the military, you know, patriots. And what happened
was her daughter went to had the hospital for a
clod and ended up dying because they wouldn't treat her.
And then they did the bare minimum treatment began because
she didn't have insurance because there's a lapse because she
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to deny her health care and deny her treatment and
that culminating her death. And there's a wrongful death of
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The first one I did with Amy Valolla. Second one
is more about politics because what she came in to
do and she's running against the characters over there, and
we got our support behind Amy. I'll be there tomorrow. Uh,

(28:02):
I don't know definitely what time. Oh tomorrow, take a
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of it, Damn Okay, but I'm gonna be doing this live.

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So I'll work on that as well. But coming up,
we have James Dougeniu at kennedysand king dot com and
his book is jcast Nation JFK sni Edan's. Today I

(28:33):
said we'll be finishing up on MLKA. I was always
fascinated about, Uh, who's that guy? James are alway, I've
always been fascinated about the prison escape, how this guy
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I don't know the James uh And has them, And
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You know, it's one of those guys I tell you
when you get involved in his own conspiracy investigations. It's
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with deathbed confession, you can't even trust those. You know,
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(29:40):
somebody's you know, who would make a deathbed confession with
a you know, Lion, it's happening. You know, we see
it having forms. That's just fascinating. Old JFK and who
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(34:09):
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and ice trying to hold that baby. He's that firefighter,
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are you? Yes, I'm here. Okay. You got a little
little witing in the background. James, tell the ODIs reminding it.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Do you want me to turn that off?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah? What is it?

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Yeah?

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Turn that off?

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Man?

Speaker 4 (35:31):
All right?

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to take your clothes off
man the cool okay, James, James, do you genial? The
website is Kennedy at Kennedy's and King dot com. The
new book is Jeff Cassassination The Evidence Today Tom ad
aldis James the genial.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Well.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
I had formerly been an educator and the writer. I
retired from the education busines US about two and a
half years ago. So I devote all of my time now,
you know, all my spare time, of course, to investigating
the major assassinations of the nineteen sixties, our JFK. King,

(36:15):
Bobby Kennedy and Malcolm X.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
You know.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
I tend to concentrate on the givacase because that's the
one where new documents are being declassified, all right, as
we speak, they're being declassified, all right, and so and
I'm reading them, and so that's essentially what I do.
I published Destiny Beat Trade, which was completely rewritten in

(36:41):
about twenty twelve twenty thirteen in a new edition, and
then I a co edited called The Assassinations. That particular
book is about all four assassinations of the nineteen sixties.
What that I already just made and then I've just
released another book called The JFK Assassination. The evidence today

(37:03):
that particular book is focused on Stea has come out
as a remult of what is called the JFKA Act
of nineteen ninety two, all right, And that came about
because of the uproar that was created because of Oliver
Stone's film JFK, which was released in December of nineteen

(37:25):
ninety one, and so Congress because at the end of
that movie there was a tag said that the files
of the House Select Committee will not be declassified until
it's twenty twenty nine or something like that, all right,
And so that created an uproar, you know, fax is telegrams,

(37:47):
phone calls, letters on Capitol Hill, and they decided to
go ahead and pass a new law called the JFK Act,
which created something called the ARB Fascination Records Review Board,
And that particular body stayed in business for about four years,

(38:08):
and they declassified a heck of a lot of documents,
and then they folded up in nineteen ninety eight, and
everything was supposed to be declassified no matter what twenty
five years after, all right, And that was when everybody

(38:29):
was expecting Donald Trump to go ahead and live up
to his tweet and declassify everything in the JFK case
October to twenty sixth nine, twenty seventeen. Well, Trump backed
out of that, and then he said, we'll give you
six months more, right, And so then everybody's waiting for

(38:52):
April twenty six and he did another salsa dance around
that one, and now he extended it to twenty twenty one.
All right. So, in other words, the American public is
going to have to wait fifty eight years to get
every last document, okay out of the government about the
assassination of the JFK, which they said Oswald did it

(39:15):
acting alone back in nineteen sixty four. Now, if you
don't think that having fifty eight years is enough time
for these intelligence agencies to scrub documents, altered documents, get
rid of documents, et cetera, then you don't know the
way these guys work, all right. So I've become very

(39:40):
discouraged about the whole thing, really and disappointed.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
And what was released? Did you find anything of value?

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:49):
I was. One of the worst things that the mainstream
media did is it tried to say that nothing that
was declassified by the AR stemming back to about nineteen
ninety three, nineteen ninety four, you know, was of any value.
I mean, they actually that, you know. Rachel Maddow was

(40:10):
one of the worst people about this. Chris Matthews was
in second, you know, and she said she this is
what she did, and I wrote about it on my website.
She broadcast.

Speaker 10 (40:24):
A rerun of Tom Pettitt, who passed away a long
time ago, a former NBC reporter, going in to.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
The National Archives on the very first day of the
JFKAK the very first day, you know, and he was
walking through stuff which she obviously didn't know what he
was looking at, you know, saying, well, that's not new,
we knew that, et cetera. And he didn't even know
he was pointing to Warn Commission documents. That's that's how
dumb this guy was, all right, now. I had a

(40:57):
friend who went in there that same day and he
said he was surprised, shocked really by how many documents
had so called rift numbers on them. What does that
mean if a document was not about to be released?
In other words, the FBI or the CIA or the
State Department said we don't want to, we don't want

(41:20):
to release this because we have reservations about in and
they would tag it was something called the rift number,
which means it's referred to the future. All right. So
Tom Pettitt of course didn't even say that that so
many of those documents were tagged with rift numbers, and
racial Mattup proms't even know what the heck that is,
all right, and so and so you know, from then

(41:43):
on it's just gotten just as bad. But there's been
literally you're talking hundreds of very very interesting documents that
have been released. Well, let's put it this way. The
time period in which the Review Board was an act
nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety eight, there were sixty

(42:04):
thousand specific documents released, you know, clocking in at something
like four million pages. Okay, right now, with we found
out that's so interesting, fins, is that the Review Board
left almost as many documents behind as a declassified all right,

(42:28):
because I've seen a number of about fifty five thousand
documents that were either redacted in part or withheld, or
what they call was held in full. Redaction, of course,
refers to the fact that the originating agency either wided
out or blacked out a certain amount of pages or

(42:48):
or words in a page, okay, was held in full,
means that they don't want to give up the document
at all, all right, all right. So that's what was
so amazing about what has happened since late October. You know,
there's been so many documents that we found out that
the RB just didn't deal with in any effective way.

(43:12):
All right. Now, I can go into some of these
things if you want me to. Some of these specific
documents and some of these specific discoveries, to name just
a few, I have an FBI report here sitting on
my bookcase in which something like two days after the assassination,

(43:33):
the FBI interviewed a guy who had a sound you know,
a sound recording studio in Dallas, and he said that
Jack Ruby had been there about two weeks before the
assassination because he wanted to put in a new sound system,

(43:53):
you know, for his club, all right. And they exchanged
names and phone numbers and everything. And then Jack called
this friend over and he said, take down his name.
I want to get him a free pass to the club.
And it was Oswald. Really, yes, that's in an FPI document,

(44:19):
all right. Now. Another interesting document deals with Oswald being
allegedly in Mexico City, all right, And it says that
for the Warn Commission, for the Warren Commission, the CIA

(44:42):
insisted that they blacked out the description by Sylvia Durant
of the man who visited. Okay, she'd been consulate down
in Mexico City. All right, now, I should I should
give you some background. The Warrant Commission says that Oswald

(45:02):
visited Mexico City in late September early October of nineteen
sixty three, and he tried to go ahead and get
a entrance, a visa that would get him from Mexico
City to Cuba to Russia, and he failed to get it.

(45:26):
All right, Now, this was very incriminating of Oswald. The
person who dealt with him most down there was Sylvia Derant,
who was a receptionist at the Cuban consulate. Right now,
it turns out that the CIA decided to cut out
a description of Oswald that he was short and bond. Now,

(45:53):
anybody knows anything about this case knows that Oswald was
not short and won. He is about medium height with
dark brown earth, all right. So, in other words, what
they wanted to cut out was something that would lead
to the Onion that was being impersonated in Mexico City

(46:13):
seven weeks before the Kenny assassination, because that would lead
to all kinds, you know of, really kind of weird
deductions as to why why would Ozold be impersonated down
in Mexico City? And did Oswald ever go to Mexico City?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Well, also too, aren't didn't come out that that Cuban
consulate was a wire tap, that we had wire taps
going on there.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Well, we had what they call surveillance devices on both
the Soviet and the Cuban consulate, on both of them,
all right, both the places Oswold went to. And I'm
sure you know that when the FBI got the leged
tapes of Oswald visiting the Chieven Consulate, you know, the

(47:08):
agent said, this isn't Oswald, This isn't a guy we
have in detention right now in Dallas and we're questioning.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
All right.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
So here you have evidence that it wasn't Oswald's voice
on the tapes and Oswald's being impersonated in Mexico City,
all right, So this is very interesting stuff. I believe.
I don't care what Rachel Mattow has to say. She
always hasn't read any of it, Okay, but that's that's

(47:41):
what she can get away with the immediate.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
It's so true. Hey, Now, what do you make of
a Trump holding us up to twenty twenty one because
if he doesn't run for reelection, he would be out
of office by that.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Well, you know, I really don't know what to me
of that. I don't know why he did this, you know,
but it's the second time, you know, although I won't
give him some credit because some of the documents that
were declassified last week, excuse me, a week and a
half ago, you know, they were released in a more

(48:19):
unredacted form than they had been. But in my opinion,
you know, there's no excuse for any of this, you know,
to be to be held back at this point. You know,
in my opinion, what these guys are doing is breaking
the law because the JFK Act said back in nineteen

(48:40):
ninety two that there should not be any you know,
any reactions, all right, at all. In twenty seventeen, Oh really,
they said the only exceptions would be if there was
still an agent in place or an ongoing operation, all right.

(49:05):
The other one would be the irs. But that's always
been understood, you know, the irs thing. Okay, but those
are the two exceptions that now I'm sorry, I don't
believe that fifty five years later, that they're still an
agent in place, you know, from nineteen sixty three, nineteen

(49:27):
sixty four, all right, And I don't believe there's an
ongoing operation that's been going on since nineteen I just
don't buy that stuff, you know. And obviously Trump did
not make them prove their case. See the thing about
the ARB, the assassination's record and re view board is

(49:48):
that the CIA and the FBI had to prove why
something should still stay classified. You know, what is the
danger to America versus the benefit of having full, full disclosure.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
You know.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
See, I don't believe. I just don't think that Trump,
you know, set anything like that up. He should have,
but he didn't, Okay, And I think this is very corrosive,
you know, of democracy.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
And what about are any documents suspicious that they look
like they're planted or descendfo fordery type of.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
Uh? Well, actually, you know there has been a few
cases of that, all right. There There has been where
people have looked at something and says, you know, this
looks like somebody inserted something in here, all right, Okay,
And like I said at the beginning of if you've
given up people that much time, you know they can

(50:57):
go ahead and do it, you know, and then they
will do it. I mean, there's no question about that.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
What are you since? But the way, I want to
thank you for coming back today. We just interviewed you
yesterday and then I had a scheduling mishappen, and you're
kind enough to come back again today. But yesterday was
telling us about the description of your book, jeffk Assassinations
the Evidence today. Why do you go that whole thing
about Tom Hanks again?

Speaker 7 (51:24):
Okay? This this book that just came out about I
think I'm Madia first, all right. You can get it
on Amazon, Barnes and Noble or as Skyhurst, Skyhorse their
web that's the publisher there. This is really a book
that it's about the jfk assassination, but it's a lot

(51:47):
bigger than that, all right. It has three general parts
to it, Okay. It has a part one deals with
Vincent Bugliosi and his reputation and this Monck trial that
he took part in that caused him to write his
book reclaiming history. The second part is essentially based on

(52:11):
that book. It's a it's a massive critique. And this
is why I go into all the evidence today. What
is his status of the evidence in the case today?
What is his asset? First of all, the elect rifle
that Oswald's ordered, all right, see three nine nine is
so called magic bullet? What do we know about the asokay,

(52:31):
things like that, all right? And the last part deals
with Tom Hanks and the leastuus extension of news Fieldburg.
And it's about Tom Hanks, the amateur historian, obviously reublic
all right. I go to death again three of his productions,

(52:52):
which are in order, Charlie Wilson's War, which is about Afterlan.
Then I go into his film on the JFK case
called Parkland, which is absolutely horrendous, all right. And then
I deal with his latest production called The Post, with

(53:15):
Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep as the main actors.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
All right.

Speaker 7 (53:20):
And I really, you know, I really did not show
him a lot of mercy because I think that those
three films are very deceiting, and I think they set
up false heroes, and I think they also set up
false history, all right. And they do not serve the

(53:45):
interests of historical truth or honesty, you know, and I really,
really truly believe that one of the reasons this country
is such a mess today, all right, it is because
of that kind of attitude. You know, the people see

(54:05):
somehow cannot honestly deal with the things in the past.
And if you can't honestly deal well things that have
already happened, then you can't deal with the present. I
don't think you can't live in an historical vacuum, all right.
And Tom Hanks in those three films set up people

(54:28):
as to being the heroes who are not really heroes,
all right. I mean, Ben Bradley and Kay Graham were
not the heroes of Depending on Paper struggle, no way
in the world. They were only involved for two weeks.
That's a struggle that took place over three years. You know.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Ye Elsberg was the hero, you know, Daniel.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
Elsberg and Anthony Russo were the people who actually smuggled
out Pentagon papers. And they went ahead and they decided
to defy Nixon, all right. Nixon decided he wasn't going
to let them do it, and so they went ahead
and risked going to prison. For I think a combined

(55:17):
total of one hundred and forty five years, you know.
And it went on from the from the moment that
Elsberg and Russo coffee the papers all right to the
moment that they were quit in their criminal trialey in
Los Angeles. It went on for a period of about
three years. It was, you know. And so I feel

(55:41):
to see how Catherine Graham and Ben Bradley are the
heroes in that situation, I don't see that at all.
And in this book I did about ages gone critiquing
of to them because it was so I mean, it
was so dishonest, you know, fundamentally honest. And I really

(56:01):
had to do a lot of homework because kind on
papers in a very complicated base, it's not really easy
to understand. So I read about, I might say, about
eleven or twelve books.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Okay, welcome back to the Opperman Report. I'm your host,
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(01:01:29):
once again for helping me out today. We interviewed him yesterday,
and then last night I emailed him. I said, hey,
you know, can you help me out because my guest
today kind of bailed out on me? And James came
in right to the right up to the plate. Man,
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Now. One
more thing.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
It's called the jfk assassination. The evidence today.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
What do I call what do I call?

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
You called it the new evidence today?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Ah? Man, got it. I got it written right in
front of it, jaffcas assassination, the evidence. I haven't seen
new evidence today. I haven't seen that. That's good. I
got a little promise. Okay. You know it's funny because
you were saying about how this movie the Post, you know,
and it's so true. They say it's poetic license. But
the thing is reality is so much more interesting than fiction.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
You know. Well, in this particular instance, though, they wouldn't
have been able to do that if they wanted to
keep the story with Bradley and Kay Graham. I think
that's what they were doing from the start with this film,
is that they wanted to somehow make Bradley and Kay Graham,

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you know, the protagonists, you know, in the film, all right.
And in reality, of course, that's not even close to
being the actual truth of this case, of the Kindagna
papers case, not even close, you know, but you know
that's what they were angling for, you know. And you know,

(01:03:08):
I I if you if you know the Pentagon papers case,
and I in my book, you know, I did some
research on this, you know, and I uh, I dug
into it. It's it's it's such a fascinating subject. It's
very very interesting, very very dramatic, okay, and uh, to

(01:03:31):
tell the true story, and this is one of the
things I mentioned. I think if you told the true story,
you really couldn't do it in a two hour film,
you know. I think it would take like more like
a four night mini series, you know, four hours spread

(01:03:53):
over four nights, you know, And but it would be
so much more hard edged then this film was, because
I mean, if you want to see just how bad
Nixon and Kissinger really were, okay, this is a really
good way to do it, you know. And I just

(01:04:15):
don't believe that people like Spielberg and Hanks are willing
to do that kind of thing. That's not their view
of history, especially since Steven Ambrose, who was there the
guy they looked up to. His historian was kind of
close to Nixon, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
So you know, it's interesting too, because you know, here
we have a Kissinger, you know, showing up around the
Trump White House, you know, several times, you know, sitting
there in the Oval office and advising him. You think
that Hanks and Spielberg, as Democrats, you know, would want
to expose Kissinger for what he really is. But they
just missed the opportunity.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Well, see Henry Kissinger, if you ask me, I don't
even understand why the guy gets on television anymore. And
by the way, it's not just Trump. If you recall,
in the debates between Bernie Sanders and well, Bernie Sanders

(01:05:20):
said that the Clintons spend their Christmas vacation in the
Caribbean with Kissinger as one of the guests. You know,
and Henry Kissinger is somebody that I would never even
want to be in the same room with. All right,

(01:05:41):
what do we know about this guy today? This guy
has turned out to be the heavyweight champion of genocides
in the post World War two genocides. He was involved
in three of them. He was involved in the one
in Bangladesh, Okay, which is at that time was called

(01:06:04):
East Pakistan. There a very good book on that by
a guy named Gary Bass, called the Blood Telegram, in
which Archer Blood, the head of the consulate there, wrote
Nixon Kissers saying, there's thousands of people being wiped out
in this invasion from West Pakistan. You know, we should

(01:06:25):
say something about it. At the very least, they ignored him.
He sent another telegram and this time he had twenty
one employees, you know, sign it as a petition. You
know what Nixon Kissinger did, They small with plains in
the West Pakistan to help from Iran. Okay, all right,

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it's all in this book, the Blood Telegram by Gary Bass.
That's when he was involved in all right. Then he
was involved in the One and East teamworn where he
allowed Sue Harto to go in, you know, after visiting,
gave him the alleged green light, you know, to go
ahead and take over the island. All right. And then
of course there's the the big one. You know what

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happened in Cambodia. You know, as Nixon and Kissinger extended
the war from Vietnam, in the neighboring Cambodia started bombing
the country destabilized the government led to the rise of
the Kimer Rouge and Paul Pott, and that one, the

(01:07:30):
latest figure I've seen on that one is of about
two million, about two million people perished because of the
you know, the concentration camps and extermination camps set up
by Paul Pott and the Kimer Rouge in Cambodia when
Nixon and Kissinger the stabled eyes of government and made

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it possible, you know, for them to take over. So,
you know Henry Kissinger. And by the way, Cat was
friendly with Kissinger. She didn't like Nick Shoner very much,
but she was kind of friendly with Henry Kissinger. So
you know, if you're going to make you know, heroes
out of these kind of people, you know, count me out,

(01:08:13):
all right. You know, I don't want to be involved
in it. I don't understand it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I hear you man switching gears there a bit when
I hedge on the other day, we're talking about Martin
Luther King and we kind of left off around the
time of the civil litigation, the Pepper lawsuit. It was
the judge rule Judge Joe Brown from the TV show
You know, but what do you make of that, By
the way, is this guy Judge Joe Brown would show

(01:08:42):
up but wind up played on an afternoon TV show
was like a payoff kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
Well, that's that's a really interesting development. And I'm not okay,
let me give me the lowdown. Because the civil trial
only happened because Judge Joe Brown was removed from the
criminal case. William Pepper first tried to get the King

(01:09:08):
case adjudicated in criminal court. Judge Joe Brown ended up
being the judge on the case, all right, and he
did a very good job, and he was determined that
he was going to prove one way or the other

(01:09:29):
whether or not these bullets that went through King's chief,
if that was fired from the game master thirty thirty
that was in evidence, and that had never been proved before,
all right. And they came to the conclusion that the

(01:09:50):
reason it hadn't been proved before is because they couldn't
determine whether or not a long crack in the barrel
came about because of the bullets being fired through it,
or whether or not that was pre existing, that it
already exists, and so and so Judge Brown decided, Okay,

(01:10:16):
this is what we're going to do. We're going to
go ahead and use an electronicis machine to put a
solution to the barrel of the rifle, a chemical solution
that will not harm any of the metal inside that
it comes in contact with. All Right, We're going to
clean it out completely, and then we'll see once and

(01:10:37):
for all, you know, did the bullet make that crease
or didn't it? All right, and that would have proven,
of course, you know, because you know, if there if
there was no crease, that means that that bullet was
not fired through that rifle, all right, And so that's
what they were going to do. And this is when

(01:11:00):
this is when all hades broke loose in Memphis. The
whole city government, the whole state government went berserk. And
then when Judge Joe Brown, rather unwisely okay, went on vacation,

(01:11:20):
that's when they literally invaded his office, okay, and this
ended up, you know, they ended up taking him off
the case, all right. That's why William Pepper had to
go to a civil trial. All right. So I just
want to get that background now. I've never been able

(01:11:42):
to determine whether or not Brown was made a TV
star during or after Okay. I can't get the timing down,
but I think that it was after but I'm not
you know, all right, But whatever, it didn't have any

(01:12:05):
impact on what he was doing on that case. He
was he was very much involved with trying to find
out the truth of the case all throughout. And by
the way, I should say he's still doing that, okay,
because there was a conference in Pittsburgh about a week
ago at Duqune University and Judge Joe Brown spoke at it,

(01:12:28):
all right, So he's still interested in the King case
right now. What you're talking about is the civil trial,
all right. And the civil trial was held in Memphis,
all right in nineteen ninety nine, and I think over
a period of three months, William Pepper managed to convince

(01:12:53):
the jury to rule for the King family and against
Lloyd Showers, okay, who he felt was one of the
concertors in the King case. Okay. So in essence, William
Pepper won this case twice, all right. He wanted won
in Montreal on TV, which by the way, you can

(01:13:14):
still get on DVD, still very much worth seeing, and
then he wanted in civil court, and he probably would
have wanted in criminal court also all right, So that's
that's a pretty good that's a very good record that
Pepper had in this case.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Do you think that, you know, it's just fascinates me
that there's a weapon that's never been fully tested that's
still in existence. This weapon still exists, right.

Speaker 7 (01:13:39):
It's at the Martin Luther King Memorial in Memphis, which
is at the Lorraine Motel where King was killed.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
And who owns custody over there? Did the hotels like
a museum?

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Yeah? Yeah, Well then why don't they have it tested?

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Is that sposed to be a serious question?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Okay, because they're they're on the other side. It was
a serious but well, you know, you think if that
Martin Luther King Memorial, you know, the museum, that they
would be on the.

Speaker 7 (01:14:10):
Side of the It's like the six Law in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Right, I guess they go ahead and they say that.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
You know, down in Dallas they say Oswald killed Kennedy
and here they say Ray killed Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
All right, Now, was Ray a patsy or was he
in on it? A little bit?

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
I don't think ra was in on it at all. Okay,
I know, I've never seen any evidence that he was
in on it. On it at all. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Well, but to be given that money to travel overseas
and make the getaway and stuff like that, he had
to be Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
Now that's that's an interesting question because what you're talking
about is afterwards, Okay, you're talking about after the assassination.
In other words, you know, how did he get those identities? Okay?
And how did he get the money from that guy
who visited you know? What was that all about? All right?
And see that The problem with that is that Hee

(01:15:11):
Ray still had something like thirteen years left on his
term after he escaped from that prison. Okay, So even
if the guy would have been acquitted in the king case,
he still faced that that charge. Okay, escape you yes,

(01:15:32):
all right. And so some people have said that the
reason that Ray does not want to completely come clean
about what happened afterwards is that if they would return
into jail to serve out that, you know, the previous charge,
then somebody could be out to get.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Him very easily.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
And what do you make of that prison break? Because
that was suspicious to me, even you know, some people
think that it was a setup. Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
You know, now I'm not saying I do, Okay, but
I'm saying that some people actually think that it was
a setup. Yeah, which is an interesting way to look
at it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Of course, a setup that after he escaped they would
have killed him.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
No, no, no, that they they almost made it too
easy for him to leave, right, okay, Yeah, Now whether
or not they wanted to kill him or not as
something else.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Oh, do you say they set them up that he
would have the extra charges for the escape charges something
like that. Yes, okay, that's interesting. And what about it?
Can you confirm that his brother was a leader in
the KKK.

Speaker 7 (01:16:48):
No, you're talking about Jerry Ray.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, Jerry.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
Ray wasn't a leader in the puplunks plan. He was
he was associated with an attorney, you know, who worked
for the state's rights people in the South, and he
went to him to get some legal advice once or twice. Okay,
But he was never Jerry Ray was never associated or

(01:17:13):
was a member of the clan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Okay. Well, that's good to know because that always I
thought he was. That's interesting. Now, what about some of
these other cases. What can you tell us about the
the murder of Malcolm X.

Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
Okay, well, that that one on that one in our book,
the assassinations. We had no less than Jim Douglas do
a kind of long essay on that particular one. All right,
on that particular one. It looks like what happened is

(01:17:49):
that the local police and people in the the uh
the religious sect okay, the Black Muslims that Malcolm had
split off from. It looks like they combined to let's

(01:18:11):
to let the pot happen, all right, and it succeeded.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
For instance, we know that, for example, the there was
one guy who pleaded guilty once the trial started. Okay,
there was one guy who pleaded guilty once the trial started,
you know, and because they had a pretty good case
against him, and he said, I'll admit that I was
a part of it, but I don't know who the

(01:18:40):
heck these other two guys are. Yeah, they just picked
up two other guys off the street, you know, and
and they tried to make the case against them. But
this guy, you know, said, you know, I don't know
who these other two guys are. But that didn't matter.
Of course, they were convicted. Also, now the Robert Kennedy one,
which the anniversary is coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Wait, wait, before we get to Robert Kennedy, back to
Malcolm X because I had his daughter on the show,
and yeah, but another one of his daughters, the other
one who hired the hitman. She tried to hire hitmen
to go you have to kill Fara Khon. She's convinced
that far Kahan was involved. Is that what what your
conclusion was?

Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
No, we didn't come to that conclusion.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Okay, Now wait a minute.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
I'm not saying it's not true. Okay, remember that. I'm
not saying it's not true. But in the work that
we put together on that, you know, we didn't now
and by the way, that's also not to say that
Fara Cohn was not very upset and angry with Malcolm,

(01:19:46):
because it is true that he was. Okay, but we
just didn't see any evidence you know that went ahead
and pointed to that conclusion.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
I found it interesting too that when I had the
other daughter on it. I apologize, I forget her name,
but she was talking about how, you know, she works
with the Al Sharpton you know, and Al Sharpton is
and Al Shafton and I you know, at the end
of the interview, I brought up I said, well, how
do you you don't feel about al Shaufton being hern
FBI informant. You know, she wasn't having it. She wasn't,

(01:20:22):
she wasn't. It wasn't too receptive to that one. But
I just I don't know, it's, you know, like it like,
what would Malcolm X say, you know, knowing that his
daughter was hanging around with this informant. I don't think
you would go along with that too. Well, So I
don't know, what can you tell us about r K.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
Well, the r r KDE case, which is coming up
next month, the anniversary, it's actually less than a month away,
is a really fascinating case because for for many reasons,
for a long time, people just considered that to be

(01:21:05):
in an open and shut case because they said, well, look,
all these people saw Bobby Kennedy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
In the pantry, and then.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
All these people saw this guy jump out and start
firing his handgun, all right, and then he was subdued
almost instantly afterward, all right, and then he was taken
in the custody and he was convicted of the crime.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:37):
So what's share, Sakta? Well, as I've always said, as
I've always said, look, in these particular cases, you know,
you didn't have to pull off the perfect crime. What
you had to do was have control over the cover up,
all right, and when you're getting away, you're you're doing

(01:22:01):
these kinds of high level, you know, very controversial characters.
There's not a lot of sympathy for them in the
relatively conservative law enforcement establishment. You know, Jiegrew, who was
not going to go all out to find out who

(01:22:24):
killed JFK or his brother, especially King.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
All right, So.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
That kind of thing entered the equation also, right, So
my idea of the Robert Kennedy case is pretty simple.
First of all, all the witnesses say that Sirhan was

(01:22:53):
in front of RFK, all right, he's in front of him.
All the witnesses to say he had his hand extended
straight out, all right. All the witnesses say he was
something like two feet away or more from Bobby Kennedy.

(01:23:17):
All right. Now, if you go ahead and look at
Thomas Lagucci's autopsy, which some people have called the finest
medical legal document ever written, okay, you will see that

(01:23:40):
all the bullets that hit Bobby Kennedy came in from behind,
They came in at upward angles, and the fatal bullet
that killed him came in at a distance between one
and three inches away, So that kind of, you know,

(01:24:02):
kind of blows up the official story, you know. All right, Now,
let me tell you another thing. If I remember correctly,
Sir Han Surian's handgun could contain I think it was

(01:24:26):
mostly an h eight shots. The matri d eve Carl
Yuker was escorting Bobby Kennedy through the pantry that night,
all right, he said he pounced on surianne after the

(01:24:47):
first shot, he said, at the most right, at the
second shot, So.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
How could.

Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
Sir Haan had gotten off the rest of those accurate shots? Now,
even more important I believe is that a guy who
worked as CNN, all right, discovered an audio tape all right,

(01:25:20):
taken inside the pantry that night. It was by a reporter,
an amateur reporter covering the RK campaigns for a newspaper
out of Canada, all right, And this tape he had
sound analyzed, all right, and he has come to the

(01:25:43):
conclusion the analysts that they were at the at the
very least fourteen shots fired, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Probably more.

Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
He said that he couldn't make out the ones after
because they were drowned out by the screens of the
in the pantry. But he dissected fourteen shots. Now, obviously
that could not have insurient because nobody saw him reload.
But also he said that at least twice, at least twice,

(01:26:18):
the sounds of the shots are fired too rapidly, all right,
to come from that gun. You couldn't get off the
shotsack quickly, all right. So there's the evidence for the
Robert Kennedy case being bigger murder conspiracy. In my opinion,

(01:26:40):
it's the one that's most clearly a conspiracy. It's the
one that's most easily provable, and it's the reason why
the California authorities would not let William Pepper reopen that case.
He wanted to reopen that case also, but Kamla Harris,
the Attorney General at that time, resisted those overshures. Yeah,

(01:27:06):
to reopen the Robert Kennedy case.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
But Sir hanster Han did have a gun on him
that day, Yes, And where that gun fired, well, I.

Speaker 7 (01:27:18):
Don't know if there were anybody touching up. It had
to have been fired because Sir hand did hire him shots. Okay.
The question is not whether he did. The question is
what did they hear Robert Kennedy, and the answer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
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This excellent documentary film is available at serpents rising at
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I'm your host, private investcator Ed Opperman. I have a
document and it was given to me by uh Maury Terry,

(01:30:01):
the author of the book The Ultimate Evil as document.
It's an I n S report.

Speaker 7 (01:30:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
It describes Sir Hannes Sirhan attending parties drug and sex
parties over Sharon Tates Town.

Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
He said, I have never heard of it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Yeah, it's a very bizarre littlettle report that minsin and
the process Churchill, Sir hanster hann Is mentioned in this
that he attended drug and sex parties. Yeah, it's a
start document. It's a rare document.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
I just that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
And what's also to with They went to a great
extent to trash the crime again. They destroyed the crime scene,
removing the door, gym and stuff like that. What can
you talks about that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
It was?

Speaker 7 (01:30:48):
It was pretty bad. The l a p D. Did
they Well you're talking about they took down several panels. Okay,
they got rid of numerous photographs. There's a guy named
Scott Anyer who tried to get his photographs back, you know,
from the lat D. He never got him back. He

(01:31:11):
had to sue in court. They lied their head offs
about the providence of the photographs, and he ended up
he actually won his case all right, you know, but
they didn't They never gave him the photographs, all right,
which is which is pretty terrible. So you've got all

(01:31:32):
kinds of indications, you know, of evidence being tampered with,
you know, in the RK case.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
And ultimately they destroyed the whole hotel, the Ambassador Hotel,
which was a historic landmark hotel just for historical values.
You think you would restore it and keep it just
it just.

Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
Makes sense that that was That was pretty sad. A
lot of people wanted them to at least keep the
Robert Kennedy's site intact, and they didn't even do that.
They didn't even do that. And what makes that is that, well, look,
you know there's a site for the JFK case Dailey Plaza,

(01:32:17):
there's a site that we just mentioned for MLK Loraine Motel,
but there isn't any memorial site for Robert Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
It's fascinating. What about this whole story about the woman
in the Poka dot dress. What can tell us about that?

Speaker 7 (01:32:37):
Oh, that's one of the most interesting things that there
is in the whole RFK case. All right, In case
your listeners haven't heard this, let me back up a little.

(01:32:57):
That evening, there was a girl named Sandy Toronto, was
an RFK campaign volunteer, and she was standing outside in
the back underneath the fire escape. All right. She remembered

(01:33:19):
two people going by her. Okay, one guy was kind
of tall, the girl was kind of medium height, very
good looking, very curvy, and she had on an unmistakable

(01:33:40):
white dress with black polcononts. All right, they went in.
Sandy was still staying outside, all right. Then after the
assassination they exited the ambassador at that same flight of stairs.

(01:34:07):
They were very excited running and Sandy had a curiosity,
said what happened?

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:34:16):
And the girl said words of the effect we killed
the senator, all right, And so Sandy went inside she
saw what had happened, And on national television I think

(01:34:36):
at about two thirty or something like that in LA
which would make it like five point thirty in the
morning on the East coast, Sandra Vanoker interviewed her on

(01:34:57):
national television. Okay, and that's the story she told.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
And were these people these people were never identified, right, well.

Speaker 7 (01:35:11):
Not really, not really they were they were never they
were never identified. But let me say this. When they
put Sir Hanne under because Sir Hanne was very easily hypnotized, okay,

(01:35:32):
they asked him, who was the last person you saw
before the senator was killed? Who's the last person he
talked to? And he wrote down. And it's called automatic writing,
where you put somebody under hypnosis, okay, and it takes

(01:35:55):
them a while, slowly, but surely it comes out. And
he wrote down the girl, the girl, the girl. Okay.
On top of that, something like seventeen witnesses saw a
girl in a polkarad dress inside the pantry that night,

(01:36:18):
all right, and she and her partner one of the
very few people who was doing Britney speed to get out.
Everybody else have you ever seen the scenes of that?
You know, everybody else is just completely emotionally annihilated. They
can't believe what's happened. People are like, you know, laying

(01:36:40):
on the floor. They got they got their backs up
against the wall. They're weeping, okay, they're crying, they're screaming. Bloody,
you know, because it was kind of like, how could
this happen again? You know, it just happened in Memphis
two months ago. There we go again, and it is

(01:37:01):
happening again. It's like a continuous nightmare. Somebody's knocking off
these people. Yeah and so and so, why then, of
course would they be the only two people running out
of the place. But I should say this was one
of the guy running out, a guy named Michael Wayne.

(01:37:23):
But you'll have to wait for Lisa Piece's book, which
is coming out in November to learn about that, which
I think she's going to be on your show, so
you learn about that. Yeah, he was the other guy running.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
Out, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Now, out of all these cases, the only one who's
still alive is Sir hansor Hand.

Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
What does he say now, Well, San Sir Hand now
proclaims is that he didn't do it. But they won't.
They won't let him off on parole because they want
him to express his regret for what he did. Talk
about a catch twenty two, yeah you know here. Yeah,

(01:38:06):
so so that's what he's caught in right now, you know,
And like I said, you know, they wouldn't thanks to
Kamla Harris who resisted it. You know, they they would
not grant him a new trial because they would know
what would happen. He was going to win. Okay if
they tried him again.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
It's amazing, all these cases. If if we had a
real investigation, a real trial, they would It would be
so easy. Now, what was the story about Sir hanster Hand?
He had some kind of a psychiatrist or a therapist
prior to the assassination. When what's that old story, Sir.

Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
Hand as psychiatrists before the assassination?

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Yeah, well, no, no, I'm wrong. I thought he was
involved some kind of therapy or a psychiatrists something like that.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
It was no, I'm not aware of that one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Okay. Then there, then I'm mistaken. This Then after the
assassination he got in wrong with with a therapist.

Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
Oh yeah, he got involved with two psychiatrists. There were two,
one from the defense and one from the prosecution. Then
when he was convicted, there was another psychiatrist, a guy
named Simpson Kalus, who treated him in state prison. Okay.
And he was convinced that Sir Han had been programmed

(01:39:26):
all right, and that the defense team did not use
the proper defense. Okay, at his trial, all right, he
did not think that Sir Hann committed the crime. Simpson
callous thought that it was very clear to him that

(01:39:47):
sur An had been programmed over a period of time,
and he was attempting to deprogram him, all right, and
on the verge of him being successful, he was taken
off the case. There's a very famous case in Denmark
that took place during the forties, all right, And in

(01:40:12):
that particular case, all right, you had two friends. One
of them ended up programming the other, okay, And once
the guy was convicted of that, he had shot a
couple of people in a bank, all right, And the

(01:40:38):
guy who took the case in the prison, the prisons psychiatrist,
all right, decided that he didn't think that the guy
didn't because, you know, he he just thought that, you know,
the guy was too gentle, he had no uh, no

(01:40:58):
way to in his personality that he could do it,
all right, And so he decided to take it on
himself to go ahead and deprogram him. And he did it,
and he found out what had happened, and the jury
convicted the guy who had hypnotized him, all right. And

(01:41:24):
so that's what Simpson Kallas was trying to do in
this particular case, all right, he was trying to deprogram
h Sir hand to see if he could find out
who actually uh brainwashed him or programmed him.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
Yeah. Now, now what would be the circumstances or the
opportunity for someone to program Sir Hans Sir Hamm, Like,
was it at a church or or it was involved
in the military. Where did this take He was his.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Former attorney, Okay, his former attorney, his last attorney before
Pepper thinks that it happened at at a local card club, okay,
in the pasady in an area, all right. He found
an ad all right, and which he thinks Syrianne answered

(01:42:21):
for this card playing game, and the guy who was
running it was a very suspicious person that he was
trying to trace, you know, to where the guy came from,
you know. And so he thinks that it was at
that card club that Syrianne was programmed. Right now, there's

(01:42:43):
a couple of suspects. Well, actually there's one major one
as to who actually did the programming, and his name
was William Joseph Bryan, and he actually to a couple
of girls, a couple of ladies of the night that
he hired. He actually said words of the effect that

(01:43:07):
he had actually programmed sure hand. All right, so he
is the most probable, the most probable suspect for doing
the actual brainwashing. And you can actually make I believe
a pretty darn good case, all right for that. Okay. Uh.

(01:43:33):
And and Lisa will and when when her book comes
out this fall, Okay, you'll see that that she makes
a very good case that it was Brian, all right
who brainwashed her hand.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Does he have a background in psychiatry or hypnotism or
something like that.

Speaker 7 (01:43:47):
Or yeah, Brian, yeah, long, long, long background. He was
He worked for the military. Okay, he did experiments for them.
He was a technical advisor on the movie The Enturion Candidate.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Before after that would have to be Ancewstir, I mean before,
sir hand. Yes, And how did Han come into contact
with him at this card game at this card club? Yeah,
right right, fascinating? How many times did he attend this
card club?

Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:44:17):
Well that I never talked to Larry about that about
how many times he he went there? Okay, uh, you know,
but that's that's what that was his conclusion. And the
thing is we haven't been able to get Larry's files.
They kind of disappeared after he died, you know, which,
of course is kind of common for this field. If

(01:44:39):
you're not there before the guy died, you're not going
to be you know afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
All right, the maid ticket, boy, is there anything else
interesting about the case you want to share with us?

Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
Well, the r KDE case is See, and I've said
this many times before work is that we tend to
get involved in the detective part of it, okay, you know,
the you know, like who did work? What's the evidence

(01:45:14):
for that? Okay? And we somehow a lot of times
we miss what's going on in the big picture, all right,
which is a complaint of mind.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
See, the assassination of Robert Kennedy.

Speaker 11 (01:45:38):
Was really.

Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
The climax to that era, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
It was really the end.

Speaker 7 (01:45:49):
You know, people talk about the sixties and old enough
to recall that it was a sensational decade. Nothing been
like it since. All Right. When you look at historically,
there's three phases. There's the Camelot sixties, the early nineteen

(01:46:11):
sixties when Kennedy had just been elected, and I called
that to leave it to beaver sixties. Okay, if you
recall that program. How innocent everything was, you know, how idealistic,
you know, was kind of living in and never never land.

(01:46:32):
All right. Then when Kennedy was killed, then came what
I call the angry sixties. Okay, Vietnam, the civil rights movement,
the huge demonstrations, the protests, Kent State, Jackson State, people

(01:46:53):
getting killed, all right, America falling apart, the Chicago Convention
from ninety you know. And then after Bobby Kennedy was killed,
since he was the last great hope of that decade,
then you had what I call the psychedelic sixties. People

(01:47:17):
escaped into rock music and drugs, perfectly exemplified by Woodstock.
You know, people just decided, what's the use, Let's just
give up, you know. And that's what happened. That was
a political impact, the cumulative political impact capped off by

(01:47:40):
the murder of Bobby Kennedy, all right. And that's and
that's what brought us Nixon. That's what brought us Nixon. Okay,
people forget that too. There's no way in the world
Nixon was going to be Bobby Kennedy, right right, all right, okay,
And so that began the whole well, I don't think

(01:48:05):
there's really anyway else to say this. The whole transformation
of America came as a result of that election, you know,
because that's when, of course, the the hard right in
the United States. God, it's beginning. That's where they got started,

(01:48:30):
you know, under Nixon, Spiro Agnew and later on Kissinger
and Jerry Ford. That's where it all began, you know.
And and and to understand the difference, all you have

(01:48:51):
to do is remember this. When JFK was killed, he
was in the process of getting out of them, all right.
And SAM two sixty three, all right, was the order
to begin a withdrawal of one thousand troops by December

(01:49:15):
and the rest by January of nineteen sixty five. All right.
All you have to remember about that is that when
Nixon took over the war, there were five hundred and
forty thousand men, five hundred and forty thousand combat troops

(01:49:36):
in Vietnam. There were none that day Kennedy died, and
the war had expanded by Nixon and Kissinger into Cambodia
and Laos. And if you add in the total number
of casualties between all three theaters of war, that is

(01:49:58):
Vietnam Cambodia and Laos. The latest figures I've been able
to put my hands on the combination of both military
and civilian casualties. You're talking about six million people, all
right in those three theaters of war. I'm putting in
the fatalities in the Vietnam War with the genocide and Cambodia.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
So that's what happened as a result of all this,
you know, And I don't think we spend enough time
on that.

Speaker 11 (01:50:35):
You know, it's interesting, it's important to talk about bullet
angles and positioning and where this guy was in the autopsies,
et cetera.

Speaker 7 (01:50:46):
But we don't talk enough about the political.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Impact of what happened, right, And when you're talking about
how the psychedelic age, how much Leary, who was an
informant and an agent and probably the whole time and
relationship with G. Gordon Liddy from the very start Larry
was out on bail charges. His whole public career had charged,
his hanging over his head, and his cussion with Liddy

(01:51:10):
from the start, first the rest and until the ending
doing speeches with him, and all these guys took these
Nixon Wartergate guys were all involved in the assassination. How
much that's you described to all these Wartergate Well.

Speaker 7 (01:51:21):
Okay, it's very interesting that some of the people that
were in the involved in the Watergate breaking. All right,
we're recruited by E Howard Hunt, right, all right, And

(01:51:43):
to this to the day he died, E Howard Hunt
could not explain where he was on November to twenty second,
nineteen sixty three. And there's a famous document where James
Angleton and Richard Elms are talking about, you know, we
have to create an alibi, right for Hunt being in
Dallas on the Mber twenty second, nineteen sixty three.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
Oh really, all right?

Speaker 7 (01:52:07):
And then Hunt creates the Plumbers group, goes down to Miami,
and he recruits these guys and I think I'm not positive,
but I think every one of those guys was involved
some way with the Bay of Pigs. Yep, all right,
you know, and you know it's it's uh, you know,

(01:52:30):
you really got a wonder you know, talk about a continuum. Yeah,
you know, there's there's some very interesting connections between the
JFK assassination and the whole Watergate scandal. And Watergate, by
the way, was a lot bigger than just breaking you know,

(01:52:52):
it was a lot bigger than that, Okay. I mean,
if you study the whole Watergate thing, you know, it's
it's almost like a war, you know. Okay, And of
course it climax. It climax with Hunt and those Cubans

(01:53:16):
breaking in to Daniel Elsberg's office, his psychiatrist's office, to
try to try and get dirt, you know, on Daniel
Elsberg because Nixon and Kisses, You're just completely went crazy,
all right when the Pentagon papers began appearing, you know,

(01:53:40):
they completely overreacted and they wanted some dirt on Daniel Elsberg.
So Hunt roz out to Los Angeles with some of
these Cubans, breaks into Elsberg's psychiatrist's office.

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:53:54):
Nixon wants them to prepare a profile to smear him
in the press. That's how nutty Nixon was.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
We just got some documents real quick of an after
chap Equittic. Nixon sent Hunt down there to a Apiquittic
and they were fine, yeah, yeah, you're aware of that then, yeah, right.
And and Hunt was writing letters trying to get the
Kennedy on perjury charges. There was writing letters to the
Fraud and Ethics Committee in Congress there get him on perjury.

(01:54:20):
These guys were like full time man, you.

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
Know, and and let's say, what the heck is a
guy like that doing working in the White House.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
Well, you know, I had Sturgis, his nephew on my
show Jim Hunt, who was a college law professor in Texas.
I've had him on the show and he talks about
how Frank Sturgis had his own B twenty five bomber.
He had his own bomber jet as a private citizen. Okay, okay, anyway,
Jim Hunt too, when he was a teenager, he was

(01:54:50):
helping him make Mollsa a name palm. They were making
name bombs and stuff in the garage there.

Speaker 7 (01:54:55):
Stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
He's got some great stories. But you know, but here's
one of the one of the water gets rules had
his own eight twenty five bomber, you know, and no
one knows about it, No one talks about it.

Speaker 7 (01:55:07):
Crazy, it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Really that's funny. So you mentioned that lost it too
with the where Hunt had to come up with his alibi.
I knew a j Weberman when I was a teenager
back in New York City, when I was seventeen years old.
AJ was coming out with that book, the first book,
Kude Town America.

Speaker 7 (01:55:25):
Right, well, this stuff, there's stuff to about the alibi
that's gone over in Mark Lane's book, Okay, one of
the one of the books that came out at the
time of JFK Plausible Denial, because he actually tried Hunt
in court, Okay, And the stuff in that book is

(01:55:45):
all came out because of port documents. So it's very
very very reliable, you know that. You know, he had
a witness that actually saw the document, and then it
turned out later that the document was shown to this witness,
Joe Treno, by Angleton himself. All right, So whatether the

(01:56:10):
document is fake or whether it's real? Okay, this guy
saw it and Angleton showed it to him, all right.
And on top of that, Hunt could not explain in
court where the heck he was because his alibi witnesses
all fell apart, all right. So you know, when you
can't explain where you are, I mean I can tell

(01:56:33):
you exactly where I was on the Lieuber twenty second,
nineteen sixty three. I was sitting near the windows in
my sixth grade class at Columbus School in Erie, Pennsylvania.
I was about the fourth person down when the announcement
came on the intercom that President Kennedy had been shot
in Dallas. All right, and we're suspending school for the

(01:56:56):
rest of the day. I know where I was.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Okay, Oh, James, we're out of time, James, James, do
you genio? And I'm gonna plug your book and stuff
like that when we go because I have another couple
of minutes. So thank you, James de genio. The website
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he said he can only do half hour, and then
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