Ep. 397 - Darvio responds to Roland Martin and more

The crew is back from break and on this episode, Darvio responds in more detail to the attack against him from Roland Martin over Voter ID. The team also talks about the ongoing rap battles and the death of OJ Simpson. 

Episode Transcript

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of things to discuss. Uh we'llget to the festivities and just a little
bit, but first, miss O'Malley, welcome back. We had a little
break. Now of time get backto it and do what we do.
Yeah, yeah, we definitely tooksome time. Uh you know, life,

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you know, as I always say, life were life and so not
always bad. Yeah. So Imean, but I've been good though,
I mean mostly working focused kind ofto myself. Today, I finally,
you know, I was cleaning todaynow that I ain't working today. So
yeah, I'm actually currently having mea glass of wine. Yep, yep,

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Johnny, how you go? Youknow, I mean good. I
took a few days off. Iwent bounced back between Cincinnati and Columbus for
a few days and just kind ofkicked in and relaxed. I did go
to the casino down while. Iwent to casino in Columbus a Cincinnati.

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The one in Columbus picked my ass. That one was that that one was
not good to be at all.Actually the one in Cincinnati was much better.
I did it. I had anice little night there, hit cook
it out, and drove right backup to Columbus and stayed there for a

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couple of days and then I cameback home. So so I enjoyed myself.
I enjoyed myself. Dante. Firstof all, Man, have you
been to the other casinos Columbus,Cincinnati? You're a casino guy like myself.
Yeah, I've been to Hollywood andColumbus quite a few times. You
know, I used to live inColumbus. I used to live or I

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used to go there quite often.That's actually my favorite one of the state
down bench I've been in the oneof Cincinnati, Uh, only once it's
okay, and I don't I'm notreally a much of a fan of the
one here in Cleveland, but yeah, I like the My favorite, at
least in Ohio is uh is theone in Columbus, South Georgia. And

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that's the Hollywood Casina too. Damnthat's too damn big man. It's gigantic.
I was like, oh my god, and I took the beef.
Yeah. I like Hollywood. Thedealers are always nice. Dealers are fairly
nice everywhere, but the dealers arefairly nice there. I've had some great

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nights in Hollywood Casino. Really,some incredible nights in Hollywood Casino. Yeah.
I remember one time when I wasthis was this was in college and
I had a job. And youcan figure out how well this night went.
Because it was a Friday night.I had to go to work Saturday

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Saturday morning. I think I wasworking like second shift, so I had
to work. It was like acost center job, not making a lot
of money, but twelve thirty Ihad to be at work. I went
to the casino at I mean likeeleven eleven thirty. By the time I
realized what time it was, itwas like eleven fifteen, I didn't even

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care eleven fifteen. The next day. The next morning, I didn't even
care. I called off and wenthome and went straight to sleep. That's
how good a night it. Well, I was like, I'm not even
going to work today like it atnight? Yeah, no, I had,
like the best night I had onmy little vacation was definitely at the

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hard rocking Cincinnati because Hollywood kicked myhat and I made almost I almost made
it all back in Cincinnati, Sothat's a good that's a that's a good
trip right where. It's like,yeah, all right, I went to
this casino and I'm down this much, but then I go to the other

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casino and I'm back up. Sonow I'm only down like a little bit.
You know what I'm saying. Youcan't beat it Other than that.
How you doing, brother? Prettygood? Pretty good. It has been
some week and we having some kindof weather out there in the day,
so yes, it's been pretty goodthough I can't complain. Yeah, man,
that wind I was out there earliertoday, like that wind was crazy.

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It was shaking my car. Ihad to get out, and when
I got out, the wind likeyank, yank, my door. I
grab the door and make sure youha't get off the hands soon. And
then I got up. My hatgone like the wind ripped my hat off
of my head and to the pointwhere I didn't even see it anymore.

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I have no idea that there wasno I had no shot of even trying
to catch it or track it downor run after it, because when they
left my head, it was gone. That's how bad they that's crazy.
But you know, oh, I'msorry, go ahead, Robert. No,
I was gonna say, we haveto talk about the solar eclipse.

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We have to talk about that.What speaking of whether and all of this,
So we'll get Yes, we'll getto that in a little bit.
I gotta address some ish, soI don't want to mix that up with
the ish that I'm about to addressright now. So we'll so we'll talk
about the we'll talk about you know, what we can do. We can
do the sellar e clips and teatime too, So we'll talk about that,

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all right. So, Robin,I don't know if you're aware of
what happened with me this past week. I know Dante is, but though
because nobody talks to me, wesit it in a group text. If

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you don't follow the group text,you don't see it. But okay,
well yeah, you're right. Butbut anyway, so there is a I
guess you can call him famous orused to be famous, black political commentator,

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black intellectual as he views himself bythe name of Roland Martin, who
I know. Not only do Iknow, but I've interviewed him before on
this show, and he's interacted withme positively on social media before, He's

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shared some of my commentary before,all sorts of things. So earlier this
week, there was a conversation thatkind of dominated social media, as many
other stupid things do, over thiswhole voter ID thing and a lot of

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times, you know, there's alot of states that push voter ID,
like you have to have an IDin order to be able to vote.
We have that here in Ohio.We have a voter ID loan on the
books. And a lot of peoplesay that it's discriminatory, it's racist,
it's racist against black people because wedon't have an ID. So I said

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on social media, you know,there was someone who had made a post
like that, and I personally findthat to be insulting because I've been Black
a long time, and I don'tknow nobody Black that doesn't have an ID.
Now we're not talking driver's license becausenot everybody has a driver's license,
because everybody does. Not everybody drives. But we're talking an ID. You

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can get a non drivers idea asa matter of fact in Ohio now they
give it to you for free.So because of the voter ID laws.
So I made a comment that thesepeople must think we're stupid. Essentially,
that's essentially what I said. Theymust think we're stupid because they think we're

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not capable of getting an ID.So mister Martin decides that he's going to
jump in and make a comment tome and call himself trying the sickest minions
on me, where he says,nah at d the Kingpin, you're just
stupid if you don't get voter suppression. So of course I responded, I'll

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read you my response and then I'mgoing to elaborate a little bit more here
on this ship. So my responsewas, I've interviewed you before, you've
retweeted me before more than once atroland S Martin, So I guess I'm
only stupid when you disagree. I'vealways been respectful to you, whether I
agreed or not. So instead ofresponding to your petulance, I'll just toast

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the man I used to respect.A lot of people like that response.
A lot of people said it wasclassy and brutal at the same time.
And the interesting thing is Roland,who likes to get in back and forth
with people, never responded directly tome after that. He responded to other

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people who were commenting on the thread, but he did not respond directly to
me. Because a very interesting thinghappened, people including like my brother Dante,
started speaking up. It didn't gothe way that Roland thought it was
going to go. There were peoplewho were speaking up defending me. And

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that's what happens when you have receiptsin the community and people know that you
actually put in work and that youdon't just sit and talk about it.
So I just wanted to just takea little bit of time just to address
in a longer form that ish.First of all, it's amazing to me

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how I'm the bad guy because Irefuse to believe the black people are incapable
of getting an ID. You cantalk about other because people wanted to bring
in other issues that could be construedas voter suppression. I get that ID

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ain't one of them, especially ifthey give it to you for free,
like Ohio this if you can goto the DMV and get an ID for
free. Like you need an IDto do anything. You need an ID
to travel, You need an IDto buy alcohol, you need an ID

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to buy cigarettes. You need anID to go into some of the fine
establishments that Dante and I were justtalking about earlier in the show. You
need an ID rent a car,You need an ID to rent a hotel
room. You need an ID torent an apartment. You need an ID

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to do a whole host of things, to get a loan from a bank,
to have a bank account. Thereare, like, I don't know,
all these people who don't have IDs. How are you living in today's
America? What are you capable ofdoing when you need an ID to do
everything? You need an ID tosign up for Medicare and Medicaid and food

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stamps and welfare and all these otherthings. How how do you survive if
you don't have an ID. Onceagain, we're not talking about a driver's
license, because I know quick,go ahead, real quick. People talk
about you know, poor people andall this type of stuff. Well,
again, IDs are free, Stateissued id's in Ohio are free, and

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you need an ID to play thelottery as well, which we know is
a poor person's tax, but youneed an ID to do that as well.
So can't win to make a millionswithout an ID either, that part
too, that part too, Solike what do we do? So what
are we talking about? So I'mthe bad guy because I'm like, no,
we're capable of getting an ID.That's number one. Number two.

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The very interesting thing to me is, you know, of course, there
were a lot of a lot ofpeople, a lot of a lot of
friends on my side that were like, man, you used to tear them
apart. And I thought about this, I said, what what could I
say? That's worse than the realitythat Roland Martin is living in. That

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he went from someone who was arespected black intellectual in the country. He
went from that to being a Twittertroll for likes. There's nothing I can
say that's more pitiful than his reality. The reality is that he went from

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someone who's respected to the point wherethere's a lot of people in the community
he claims to represent that don't respecthim though, because of some of the
other things that he's done, someof the other ways that he's conducted himself.
So there's nothing I can say that'sgonna make reality even it's gonna be

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any worse than his actual reality,you know. And the interesting thing is,
like when I got all those responses, and of course you had people
on his side saying the goofy,the goofy stupid things and riding with him,
and that's okay. But I havepeople riding with me too. So

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this thing didn't play out the waythat he thought it was. He thought
he would just be able to doa do a drive by commentary and call
it a day, but it didn'twork that way. If you go to
his the last time I checked histweet, every quote tweet of his original
comment is in support of me,every single one of them. The last

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I checked the Hoe met to thatthat might have changed because I haven't checked
it in a couple of days,because it's already it's already died down.
But it's just it's very interesting tome to see what the things that the
people who are supposed to represent us, who say they represent us, what

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they pushing, what they don't.Why is this now a five alarm fire
during a presidential election year. It'sbecause Black people are unhappy and they try
and these folks in leadership quote unquoteleadership are trying to find ways to get

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black people enthusiastic to vote when thecommunity is not really enthusiastic to vote.
Right now, that's all this isabout. You know, A very good
friend of mine, Colin Jackson,who has experience in this space, said
on Twitter as well. He said, if IDs were so important, how

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come these parties don't organize to makesure that people get IDs. You raise
all of this money for your campaignsand for your own private events and all
the expensive chicken dinners you do.If it really if it's really an issue,
if it's really that severe of anissue, then how come you don't

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make sure that people get IDs.It's because it's a political tool. It's
a political ploy. They're gas lightingour community, which is what they do
when they have no legitimate reason topush us to the post, when they

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don't have anything to stand on,they go to gas slighting. That's what
they do. That's what they did. That's what Roland did, and it
was obvious to anybody who doesn't thinkin that same foolishness. Dante your thoughts
since you were involved in the response. Well, so, my biggest thing

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with social media is that it hasallowed people to speak to people in ways
that they just wouldn't in public orin person. And it allows people who
don't know anything about you to speakto you any kind of way and just

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a word of advice. You don'tknow who you are talking to all the
time on social media, because that'ssort of the beauty and the curse of
it, right, Like you couldbe talking to some you can make friends
with people all over the world,but you can also make enemies with people
all over the world, right justby being a keyboard warrior. And so

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I just think people need to bemore mindful of the fact that, like
everybody you see on Twitter, justbecause you don't see them on you know,
Fox News or MSNBC or seeing it, that doesn't mean that they don't
have real experience in what they're talkingabout. That doesn't mean that they're not
actual doers. And I believe thatthere's a place for everybody within the community

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if we're talking about progress, Sosome people are meant to talk right Roland
is a talker, and some peopleare supposed to talk and do things right,
So I just my response for Rolandto Roland was just like, you
have no idea who you're talking to, right, because people actually do work

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in the community, and if youknow Darvo in the city of Cleveland,
he does so to come at himand say, well you just you know,
using words like stupid or you don'tunderstand voters, it's like, no,
actually, like what he we hearlike on the ground for real,
in our in our community. Sothat's one thing. You have no idea

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who you're talking to. And Isee that a lot on social media.
You see that a lot when youknow people are arguing with somebody. It's
like, dang, do you evenknow who you're talking to? Like I
know this personally. You know Darvo, you have a bigger platform. But
I've seen situations where it's like,wow, I know this, don't guy
only have like six hundred followers,But like he's actually a lawyer in real
life, and you argue in thecriminal justice system with him, but you

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don't you don't know who you're talkingto or like you know what I'm saying,
you arguing about boxing with this guy, and this guy's actually a professional
fighter or an amateur boxer, likeyou should probably stop, you know what
about say that. I was justabout to say that, you're told you're
buying an example that you saw andlike the boxing chats of like people arguing

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with someone who is actual in theboxing space exactly. So it's like sometimes
you may you don't know who you'retalking to, So maybe just calm down
a little bit when it comes tothe insults and any other thing. Uh,
Roland, listen, man, Iam. I try to give certain

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people grace, but you will nevercatch anybody that I associate with torking and
nay naying and quite literally what wewould call tap dancing or shucking and driving
for certain people. You would neversee anybody that associate with doing that.
So when Roland Martin or anybody likehim tries to sit on this high horse

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and be pompous and I know theissues and I've been fighting the good fight
or I've been doing this or myrecord can say this. No, no,
no, no no, you areon video yo shucking and jiving for
the same people who you say oppressus. Stop. You have no credibility

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here. And that you know thatthat to me. You know, Roland
Martin is supposed to be uh.He he has said he was boulet.
Uh. He's supposed to be.You know, he is in a fraternity.
He is supposed to be you know, that talented tenth right, he
is supposed to be the you know, one of the appointed leaders in our

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community. Right. Well, partof the problem with that class of people,
uh is that we see how youbend over backwards and do the bidding
of those who you say oppressed thenineties. So and I'll just I'll just

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leave it, leave it there.Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a
it's a very interesting dynamic. Andespecially you know what was funny is a
friend of mine who's a solid Democrat, had called me about the situation and

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they were pissed. They were actuallypissed the Roland and was like, you
know, Roller should apologize, juststand the third And you know, Chris
Evans was another guy. I thinkthat's his I think that's his name.
No, Captain American is his nameon social media or whatever. He said
something that was so ignorant, basicallysaying, oh, well, let me

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break this down for you, becauseI know that your IEP scores must have
been the lowest in history or somethingto that effect. And I'm like,
well, you, this's funny thatyou again insulting in the intelligence of someone
who was an honor student in college. Right, So it's like, I'm

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like, this is so ignorant.I just immediately blocked him. But my
friend was like, you know,they should be lifting people like you up
instead of attacking you. And Ithink, Dante, this is kind of
the unfortunate thing that we have withwithin the culture where it's like this,

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we want to respect our elders,and we are taught in our community to
respect our elders, but when youhave people like Roland who abuse that and
don't show themselves to be respectable,I think that causes a problem. Yeah,

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it's hard for me, man,when it comes to when it comes
to guys like Roland, just becauselike again, I've seen you. I've
seen you champion yourself as one ofthe talented tenths, right, I've seen
you do that. I've seen youcall yourself fule. I know that you
are in a fraternity, and Iknow you know he's in a divine non

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fraternity. I understand that, andI understand. I know what you used
to be or what you think youused to be, but you're really not
as important as you think you are, and you really don't have the kind
of cloud that you think you do. Because my generation saw you torking and
they name on stage with Hillary Clinton. That's right, and politics aside,

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that ain't a good look. Idon't like what we perceive to be shucking
and jiving or tap dancing for Idon't like the way that look that that
looks back. Whether she's a DemocratRepublican. I'm taking her politics out of
it. I'm just talking about theoptics of this is a white politician.

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You are supposed to be off ofprogress for black folk, right, this
is this is what you said.You are a part of the talent stents
for us, right, that's whatThat's how you portray yourself. But then
when I when it's election season,you up here twerking and they nay trying
to get me to vote for somebody, I'm uncomfortable. So you know,

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it's just it's like you said,it's very hard to respect you, and
it's hard for me to look atyou as somebody who I should respect.
When I I've seen your history ofthe last ten years or so. That's
right, that's right. And Ithink sometimes and we'll close with this,
but I think sometimes Dante, ourgeneration kind of gets a bad rap of

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not having respect for elders and someof us. Some of that criticism is
accurate, you know what I mean. There are some people in our generation
that are way to disrespectful. ButI also believe that there are some folks
in our generation that have seen folkswho we are supposed to be able to

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look up to, people who aresupposed to be our leaders, behave in
ways that we know is not beneficialto our community. So it makes you
look at them differently. You don'tget to still have that cachet, that
respect, that reverence when you areopenly behaving in ways or pushing things that

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are not beneficial to our community,even though you're in the position that you're
in because you say you're a representativeof our community. It's hard for people
under the age, for people whoare forty and under, to go along
with that. And I think it'salmost like the George Carlin line, like

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behind every cynic is a disappointed idealist. I think a lot of us what
you see from a lot of usis disappointment. It's not necessarily disrespect,
it's disappointment because we see people whoare supposed to be leading us and they
do things in an ar view betraysus. So as a result, you

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lose respect for those people because theyend up not being to you what they
said they were going to be,and not being what they represent themselves as
being. And it gets to thispoint where they go from being a representative
of the community to just another elitist. I get a last word, Dante.

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Yeah, I was just saying,I wonder if if he realizes that,
or if he's reached a point inhis life where he's so oblivious to
how he's actually being perceived in thecommunity, because I mean, most a
lot of people just see him asa talking point, you know, a
talking head running you know, runninginterference for white liberals. It's like,

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I mean, you know, ifthat's I can understand if you know you
were aware of that. But Idon't think he is right. His entire
persona doesn't doesn't seem to relate thathe's actually aware that most black a lot
of black people see him, especiallyyou know, thirty five and under would

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see him as like a character,right. A lot of people don't and
that I know don't really respect that, right. So I wonder if he
understands that or if he thinks thathe's still revered and respected. Yeah,
you know, It's it's funny becauseyou know, years ago when I interviewed

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him, and this is probably aboutabout eight years ago, I think something
like that. I told him tohis face that I respected him. I
told him to his face that Irespected him. And when I tell when
I tell somebody that I respect him, that means something to make because everybody

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do will get that, you knowwhat I mean. So I told him
to his face that I respected him. And for him to interact with me
like that, knowing that I've toldthis man that I respected him, and
knowing that I've always been respectful tohim since, regardless of whether I agree

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with him or not. And there'sa lot of stuff he says I don't
agree with, and to see himbehave like that says a lot about who
he is or who he has become. And I'll leave it at that.
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Outlaws Radio Show. All right,y'all, So I got a few different
stories. It's a lot to keepup on, you know. So it's

(31:23):
a lot of tea that be goingaround. But we're gonna go ahead and
we are going to go with it'sbeen a lot of beef. I do
want to say there's been a lotof beef behind a lot of rappers,
females and males as of like truthfully, like the past week or so.
So anyway, these names you wouldn'texpect to be beefing like. They're probably

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some of the most humble ones outthere, which is j Cole and Kendrick
Lamar. So I guess you knowthey've been having some I don't really know
the whole backstory, and but Ido know that Jake Cole he was dissing
Kendrick Lamar and one of his mostrecent songs that he dropped. But then
he turned around and he was like, that's the lamest thing that I've ever

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done in my life, and Imoved in a way that I spiritually feel
bad. So originally he felt likehe felt the need, like he was
obligated to respond to Kendrick Lamar becauseall that's what the fans wanted, that's
what social media wanted, that's whatthe people wanted, and so he say
that's why he came with that.But then he was like, yeah,
this don't feel right, you know, let me publicly acknowledge this and apologize

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and and to me my personal opinion, I feel like I have so much
respect for that because it I don'tIt don't always have to be like that,
you know what I mean, especiallycoming from Ja Cole. You know
he's he's, like I said,he's one of the most humble ones there
is and you wouldn't expect something likethat from him. No, instead of

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giving my response, we're gonna goto duntay, I'm taking say what he
was saying before the show. JCole is a sucker. Let's just put
it out there. He's a sucker. This pole doesn't feel right in my
spirit. It's a farce because letme let me just let me just explain
something to everybody here. Rap isa competitive sport. I could understand if

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J Cole actually had if J Colewas actually one of those type of rappers
and Kendrick was one of those typeof rappers and they had those affiliations in
a beef could lead to something different. No, this is this was a
rap of who got the best pen, who's the best who's actually the best
lyricists, who got the best barsin the game. That's what this was

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about. This wasn't no gang stuff. This wasn't anything like that. It
never has been with Kendrick, Itnever had has been with Cold, So
we was never getting to that.So J Cole just don't want to smoke.
Although even though J Cole for thelast ten years has basically been saying
in all of his raps because Ilisten, has essentially been saying, I'm

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the best and if anybody gets outof the line, I'm ana smoke him.
And if and if y'all want tosmoke, come get it. And
if you got a problem with me, let me know, because I smoke
a rapper. All of this stuff. He's been saying this for a decade.
And so when Kendrick poked his headout, then you want to cop
Please, No, he's a sucker. And then let me tell you this.
Kanye West, who's not even anMC, not even a quote MC

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like we consider he's not one ofthose type. J Cole dissed him when
he was two days out of amental rehibit out of mental rehab, ja
Ole dissed him with false profits.So his spirit was okay to this a
guy to dis a guy who's notan MC, who's a non threat,
who's fresh out of out of likea mental heal hospital. But when somebody

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says, okay, you say youthe best, I think I'm the best.
You you you you, you gota stomach ache. You don't want
to you don't want to play.No, it's not a competitive sport anymore.
We know. And this is Andlet me tell you something. Okay,
my mom is from the Bronx.Okay, my family herd line in
our family where our family is southern, but through the Great Migration, our

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people went to New York. Sookay, this is in my blood here.
Rap has always been a competitive sport. And I can tell you I
would understand if this was like YGon the West Coast and like, uh,
like let's say YG and Schoolboy Qand one of them was like,

(35:44):
nah, we grown, we don'tneed those guys have certain affiliations with certain
organizations. And you understand what I'mtalking about. If you know the rap
game, that would make me uncomfortablebecause like, okay, somebody can die
behind this. This ain't that.Ain't that Cole and Kendrick. This is
just who got the best, whogot the best bars, who really the
best? That's what That's what thiswas about. And J Cole didn't want

(36:07):
no part of it. This isn'tabout maturity, This isn't about growth,
this isn't about any of that.This is this is J Cole not actually
being a part of the culture.That's what this really is. This is
J Cole's fans who will tell youno, you just gotta be smart enough
to hear it. You just haveto have an elevated level of knowledge.

(36:27):
Oh really, because he didn't wantto go there with a guy who was
better than him, That's what thatwas. This is like if if if
Lebron did all of this talking about, well, I think I'm actually the
goat, now I'm the go I'mI'm the best player of all time.
If somebody said, hey, I'llbuild a time machine and you can go
play Jordan one on one and Lebronsaid, nah, they don't feel right

(36:50):
in my spirit. That's what thisis. That's what that is. He
don't want to smoke. He asucker, and that's cool. You can
just be that. Don't ever tellme that. You don't ever tell me
you the best rapper in the gameever again, because you not, because
when the time came to prove it, you back down. Let me tell
you let me just say this asa student of hip hop, everybody got

(37:12):
they moment, right, everybody gotthat got they moment. J co nas
you don't want it? Would holdNa said? Oh really? Oh really?
I mean we we got plenty ofexamples, plenty of examples of guys
who never got to a level oflike physical violence or or shooting, who

(37:34):
was just like you dissed me.Well, I'm gonna show you I got
the best bars, so y'all canmiss me with this whole J Cole is
j J Coole is a sucker,and J Cole didn't want to compete,
and J Cole got exposed for whatit really is. So here's the thing.
I'll just say one thing and thenI'll give it. So J Cole

(37:55):
is still a good He's still agood rapper. I still like J Cole's
met. But here's the thing.There was one tweet that I think was
a perfect describe this perfectly. Itwas like J Cole back and down to
the first rap battle that was neverin any threat of turning violence. Ever,

(38:16):
wasn't nobody about to pull up onKendrick. Wasn't nobody about to pull
up on J Cole with the gun. That's come on, man, that
was never like that, and theydon't even have cru and Darby DARBYO is
laughing because you know I'm right.He know I'm right. But but I
think he liked J Cole and Ilike Jacob, I like I like J

(38:37):
Cole. But you can never everever be one of those guys ever again.
You just can't. You just can't. You're not that guy because no,
like you said, this isn't evendangerous. This isn't I mean,
this ain't even I could even understanda guy like me Mill, right,
and he's been in the news fora bunch of stuff, But a guy

(38:59):
like a battle situation where Meek Millcould get dangerous because of where he comes
from and some of the guys herolled with, right, not necessarily saying
Meek is dangerous, but some ofthe guys in certain crews may be dangerous.
That's why I said, like ifit was yg or like when Nipsey
was still alive, or like youknow the game, you know these some
of these guys got certain affiliations whereit's like you need to be careful with

(39:22):
those think that there's a certain elementthat maybe they won't do it but there's
guys that they roll with or guysthat they care about or care about them
that would appreciate what you have tosay. But Kendrick Lamar and j Cole,
really, come on, man,stop it stop. This ain't that.

(39:44):
This is just who got the bestteam. This ain't no different than
than if you talking smack at thelunch table about I'm the best basketball player
in the school and then I comein to lunch room and say, no,
I'm the best basketball player in theschool. We're going right now,
Yeah, we're go settle it onthe court at recess. We're gonna go
after school or the third period ingym class that we're gonna really see,

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That's all that was and wasn't upfor it? All right, Robin,
your thoughts if you got any morethoughts on this, If not, go
on to the next You know,I was I was gonna cut Dante out
before you know. Originally I wasgonna try. I was gonna try to.
I was just gonna try to goup against him. But I don't
think I'm gonna get this one.So I'm gonna let that. I'm gonna

(40:30):
I'm gonna let that one go.Just this one time, Dante, So
don't don't take it to the head. He just didn't want to smoke.
And I'm telling you, I thinkthat's okay. If you don't want to
smoke, that's cool. Yeah.Yeah, So I'm gonna go ahead and
move along. Let me mind mybusiness now. So we're gonna go ahead

(40:50):
and actually go to the next battle. Uh. So the next battle is
Chris Brown. He dropped a newtrack, Tender. So he I'm gonna
try to say this. What I'msaying is okay, I'm gonna try to
say this. So basically, I'mgonna change the words around a little bit,

(41:15):
just a little bit, all right. So he says, people talking
about they'd be loyal, but yo, he probably at the spot right now
eating d You know what I'm saying. I'm next, you know what I'm
saying. Right then he says,wait, hold up, wait, wait
was that himber No? So thatone that one is Quevos, that one's
Puevos. Let me come back tothat. Let me come back to that.

(41:36):
Okay, So christ start off,Sovo said, what now, I'm
gonna come back to Quevo. Okay, I'm gonna come back to Clavo because
I cannot start off with Quavo.Okay, you cannot start off with Quavo
because Cbo response. Okay, God, Chris Brown says, Okay, now
f in my old bees. Ain'tgotta make us equal snipping that nineteen forty

(42:00):
too, because I don't do Cuevofreak bees. She like Catsu migos,
not the migos. I don't fwith bougie bees. Man. That's the
s is all the hype. Sothen, because you know who he's talking
about, right, yes, okay, So Cuevo responds, and he says,

(42:25):
they talking about they be loyal.You'll probably at the spot right now
eating d You know what I'm saying. I'm next. You know what I'm
saying. He says, I'm inthe spot. He signs the stones,
signs the stones. You did thebee wrong and now the be gone.
She posted with a thug, Yeah, with a thug, call me the

(42:45):
bee phone. She won't come home. Don't beat her up, don't beat
her up. It must be thedrugs. It m must be the drugs.
You need to cross out your pluck. Oh damn wow. They all

(43:07):
because of Carucci, because Chris Brown. So that's what it's about It's about
Chris Brown used to day Cruci.He was maddening love with her. Screwed
up like you know, you knowhow when a man screws up and then
they realize dang, you know.So I mean you don't know, but
you know, you know, becauseI'll be talking crap exactly. I'm a

(43:30):
car carrying member of the Faithful BlackMan Association, So go ahead. So
you know he messed up with Carucci. It's been it's been years years.
He actually came out with a songat one point, like basically trying to
publicly apologize to her, even saidher name in it. So that's basically

(43:51):
standing outside the window with your boomboxtrying to sing get your girl back,
you know. So now he's saughtit because quevos dating her and this just
came out of the blue, likelike give it up, love, give
it up. She's gone, She'sgone. So I have a question.

(44:13):
It's kind of related. But Iwas just thinking about this when you said
that, Like the whole standing outsidewith your boom box trying to get your
girl back? Has that ever workedon you? Nobody has ever actually tried
that? It might no, No, yeah, I can't really say,

(44:36):
because no, I guess it reallyall depends on you know, it really
depends the person. It depends onthe situation, who the person is,
what the history is. It reallyall depends because otherwise it's going to be
singing like Rihanna when she said youstanding outside should be dogging them, you
know. Otherwise that's playing in myhead and I'm gonna stand there, Lafe

(45:00):
and like nobody. You know,all right, I'll tell you your thoughts.
Yeah, I don't know, man, Chris, Chris always in some
type of some type of mess.I don't know. I'm like Darby,
I can't relate. I'm a memberof the Faithful Black Man Association. Remember,

(45:24):
I don't know what christ is becauseI was told black men don't cheat,
So I don't know what he is. You know what's funny, though,
It's funny that Robin did this storyafter the last story because Wednesday,
I will say about Chris Brown.Chris Brown got more heart than some of
these rappers. Oh Chris Brown,and go get them hands? Oh yeah,

(45:50):
j Cole though he is so heis really a discretion. He wrote
a remember the whole that nods outYou let him down? Again, Jay,
you let nods down again, Jay, I like Jake, but that
is the past. Leave the pastin the past. This passionately and because

(46:15):
it's family got New York Times,so they feel this, you know,
a hip hop they don't play.This is the spirit of hip hop?
Though, How could you do this? How you always talk about if anybody
get out of there? I'm done, Yes, I do. I actually

(46:43):
have a very interesting topic, andso I'm gonna give the topic and then
I'm gonna give my input and y'allcan do with whatever you may with that.
So I first and foremost, Ido not know how to pronounce this
girl's dang name, So Aoki,we don't go with that. Aoki Lee

(47:07):
Simmons. So that's Russell Simmons's daughter. Okay, it's his youngest daughter.
So she's twenty one years old.She's very beautiful, but she's very child
mind like you know what I mean. Like she just she's still young minded,
you know what I mean. Soshe was dating a sixty five year

(47:30):
old man, and it's at first, I want to say, this blows
my mind a little bit because Ihave a niece who was going on twenty
one years old and I will kickher. Listen, I'm so glad my

(47:52):
niece is so just she'd she'd beinto books and going to school and out
the way. I couldn't even Iwould mess her up. But I don't
you know, that's no, No, twenty one years old dating a sixty
five year old man. So Ido want to say, yup, yup,
We're gonna just go with that,just you know, exclamation three of

(48:15):
them exclamation marks. Ew. Ican't even imagine trying to kiss that man.
I cannot no. And only shewas like trying to get him to
stop at certain stores and like getcertain foods, and they were like out
of the country, and like theway she was asking, and he was

(48:37):
totally disregarding it, like laughing andjust like oh he he And he's got
a strong accent, and it's justlike, cis you over here trying to
have a sugar, daddy, andyou ain't even getting the sugar, you
know. Like they ended up splittingup, obviously within that week, and

(48:57):
it's probably because she didn't get whatshe wanted, but or he got what
he wanted one of those two ways. But I will say this, there
is, I personally would say thereshould be a certain set limit on an
age group. And even if peoplesay, like as far as dating,
you know what I mean. Butpeople say like, oh, she's twenty

(49:22):
one years old, she's grown.I had a friend he was commenting on
the post, and I've seen hiscomment, and I was like, I'm
like, now, come on,now, like, if we're gonna be
anything, let's be for real.Like she's a young girl. She still
has a child mind, she stillhas a lot of things to learn to

(49:43):
be dating somebody of that age.And he's like basically saying, like she's
an adult. That's just too consentingadults dating. And you know it doesn't
matter, No, it really does, it really does. She still don't
know anything. How do I knowthat because my niece is twenty years old.
I'm teaching my niece how to learnabout credit, building credit and how

(50:04):
to drive and how to catch RTAbuses to get to work and all this
stuff. I'm teaching her about thisand cars like, so, no,
no, it's not she's still achild. Well, I mean, the
loss says she's an adult. Hermind and her body looks like she's a

(50:25):
damn twelve year old. F outof here. No, I'm not approving
it. I'm just saying it islegal. I'm not. I don't prove
it, I don't condone it.I'm just your man. Got to take

(50:45):
a pill every time YO go toyou know, oh uh, do tell
you what you think about this.That's a very very big age gap,
and it is of course, it'san uncomfortable age gap. But there could
be some maybe like a financial arrangementor of course you know, so you

(51:12):
know, in that case, Idon't judge just because I mean, like
listen, man with two consenting adults. I'm not a moralist when it comes
to you know, I don't aslong as that is, as long as
they are legal. She's not achild, that's right, I mean legally
not a child. I you knowin twenty one. Hey, y'all just

(51:35):
be safe and that's it, youknow what. You know what's wild though,
it's like he can still obviously hecan still get her pregnant, of
course listen, And you know whatI kept thinking, who was the one?
Was it Mariah the scientist? Wasit her? Where she said?
I might be wrong. I apologizeif I got the wrong person. But

(51:59):
it's talking about Eddie. Am Iyour baby. I can't even imagine.
I can't even imagine. So thisyoung girl talking to this old man.
Hell no, and then your babydaddy's so old like he gonna die before
the baby even born, Like comeon. Yeah. But at the same
time though, I mean, womendon't say much when the cougars be going

(52:20):
to get the boy toys and allof that. Oh I do, I
do, and listen a mother ofan Okay, it's really all depends.
It really really all depends. Likeit really all depends on the age gap.
Like I won't I won't butt in, or I won't say anything to

(52:45):
a particular age You know what Imean, right, I'm we talking about
sixty five year old Yeah, ofcourse, I mean this is absurd.
But you know, twenty one yearsold dating a sixty five year old woman.
I'm a crack jokes on him everyday all day. Now, now
let me ask you this before beforewe move on. All right, Dante,

(53:07):
if you did not want kids,because I know you want kids,
If you did not want kids,would you mess with a cougar? Uh?
Probably probably not. What's the whatis a cougar for me? I
mean, I'm they would be probablymid to late like late forties, early

(53:31):
fifties. No, probably not No, Well, you know, if I
didn't want children, yes, youdid not want children, maybe she would
have to be I mean if shedepended on what she you know, what
she looked like, personality, allthat type of stuff. But yeah,
maybe if I didn't, like,if I didn't want children, yeah a

(53:52):
Mandoh you asking, amandas though menare gonna say yes, not necessarily,
I mean, even though I thinkabout it, he's not guaranteed, so
if I exactly, but I mean, listen, leve me mind. I

(54:21):
just thought it'd be an interesting question. I really actually have a friend that's
so the same friend that commented onthat post. I've actually known him for
years. I've known him for yearswell so to speak, social media have
known him. Well anyway, heis. I think he's about my age,

(54:45):
and he actually dates cougars. Hedates older woman. He prefers them
like granny, old, like old, and I'm like, I'm judging you,
but I'm you know, do whatyou do like that's cool? I
would I would if if she wasfine and I didn't want kids, like

(55:07):
the The big sticking point for meis that I want kids, So it
just gets to a point where evenif you find as a cougar just biologically,
you know that's a problem. Imean, they can have them,
they're just gonna be old. Whereit gets it gets. That's when I

(55:27):
say, it gets to a certainpoint where it just don't work no more.
Unless they hit menopause. Then youdid ain't no good? Right,
That's all right, you know whatI mean. So so yeah, so
that's that's different. But if Ididn't want you, if I didn't want
kids, I consider messing with thecougar. Y'all hear that. Y'all hear

(55:50):
that. But I mean if Idid not I do want kids. Therefore
that's not an option from because Ido want kids. If I did not
want kids, yes, I wouldconsider it, because some of these cougars
be bad. I ain't gonna lie, do you know what. I'm not

(56:10):
even gonna lie to you. Ihave one particular friend, she's one of
my model sisters, and I cantell you she is absolutely gorgeous. Like
she looks very very young. Shelooks like because her hair is like silver.
But she she is just perfect inevery aspect and it looks like she

(56:32):
just dyed her hair that color,and I'm like, girl, you are
bad. That's that's awesome. Goahead, bad but but bad, bad,
bad, That's what I'm talking about. All right, last thing before
we go to break the the eclipse. Did you watch it? What did

(56:58):
you do? Where we're at?It was so you know what, I
was actually at work before rate beforeit as it was starting, and I
hurry, even grabbed the kids snacksand grabbed them juice and Mommy's juice,
and you know what juice I grabbed. But and you know, a Harry

(57:21):
think came home. I knew Iwouldn't going to make it nowhere else the
sun is usually shining like rate perfectlywhere I'm at, and it was awesome.
I can tell you it was themost magical thing. Like that's the
best I can explain it. Myeyes actually started watering up during the eclipse

(57:43):
because I'm a nature nerd naturally judgeme if you judge me, if you
may, but I absolutely loved it. Accept accept the part where Darvy,
I gotta tell you this part right, so my daughter mind mind you all
the listeners. She is ten yearsold, okay, so she's at that

(58:06):
preteen stage and she occasionally she'll try. She'll try with the little the little
attitude occasionally, but she know whoher mam is. During the eclipse,
while the moon was passing, andshe says something smart to me, I
said, who the hell are youtalking to You must have thought that was
your brother speaking and he's sitting thereoutside as the moon is passing right and

(58:31):
she goes you. I said,oh, no, you ain't talking to
me. And then she gets smartagain. I said, girl, wait
till it is Wait till this moonpass over the sun. Wait, wait,
wait till this moon passed. Ihad to sit there and I had
to tell myself, Robin, everybody'semotions are going to be all over the

(58:52):
place right now because of the eclipse. It'll cause people to either just you
know, be very moody, justemotional, angry or tired. And I
had to remember that, so Ihad to take a step back. But
it was. It was absolutely amazing, Dante. Did you see it?
Yeah, I was at work,and uh we went outside. I spent

(59:15):
maybe a better part of an hourjust watching it get dark and watching it,
you know, feeling it get coldoutside, and then you know,
putting the glasses on it, andfinally, you know, we were at
the full eclipse, saying like,wow, this is this is really really
cool, like really really cool.I went outside without a jacket, and

(59:36):
I didn't realize that it was gonnaget that cold, and so I yeah,
that was the only the only negative. I knew it would get dark,
I knew, but I didn't knowit was gonna get cold, and
obvious, I mean, I shouldrite the sun was blocked out, so
of course it's you know, itwould the temperature were cool. But all
in all, man, it wasactually a really cool experience. I had

(59:57):
missed the like the partial eclips thatwe had in twenty seven team I think
it was I missed that one.But this, I mean, this was
actually really really incredible, once inlifetime experience. And yeah, man,
just for like those ten minutes,it gets midnight pitch black, and then
all of a sudden, you know, we're back, like nothing ever happened

(01:00:20):
like that. That was it wasreally really cool, really really cool.
So I saw a little bit ofit. I was out of town,
obviously, so it wasn't as likeyou had full I forget what they called
it, but you were able tosee it fully up here in Cleveland.
I was able to see it partially, but I did see it. It

(01:00:43):
got all dark and everything, andyou know, one of the things I
think it made me think about thatan important perspective that I don't think I
hear enough people saying when it comesto things like this, is that event

(01:01:07):
should show the miraculousness of creation,because it's damn near mathematically, numerically impossible
for what happened to happen, andit still happened. And I think sometimes,

(01:01:27):
man, you know, everybody's alwaystalking about the sun and the moon
and the stars and all of this, and people get so caught up in
the creation they fall in love withthe creation instead of the creator. And
I think it was just seeing thatwas just another reminder to me of God's

(01:01:51):
brilliance of how vast the universe actuallyis and how big it is, especially
like when you're learning about how manymiles, like the distance from the Sun
to the moon and all those differentthings, how far away they actually are,

(01:02:12):
and to be far away enough tonot like for the sun to be
far away enough to not burn everythingup, but still be close enough to
be able to give us sunlight,you know what I mean. It's just
and then you know, with themoon and then and how the like it's
miraculous the way. It's just amazingto me that people would think that all

(01:02:37):
of these things just just happen bychance, that all of these are just
happy coincidences, you know. Ithink that people are really missing the boat
and they're really missing the value ofwhat they saw when they focus solely on

(01:02:59):
the creation and missed the fact thatthere was a creator of that creation.
To me, it was just itjust showed the marvelousness and the brilliance and
the creativity of God, of thecreator of the universe to have something like

(01:03:20):
that happen that you know, I'veseen meteorologists say it's almost it's almost mathematically
and numerically impossible for an eclipse tohappen. It has to like the sun
and the moon has to hit atthe exact right spot at the exact right

(01:03:40):
time for this thing to happen.And it's it's miraculous, you know what
I mean. I saw it wasIt was so sad. It was one
of these astrologer influencers, if youwant to call them that, that's what
they call themselves, Like who sawthe eclipse and saw it was and they

(01:04:03):
had got they had went down theroad of like all these crazy conspiracy theories
and all of that, and theywere like, you know, this is
the apocalypse, this is the end. And and they you know, you
could tell they were in the likespiritualism and they cult and all that,
and they ended up killing a familylike it was a murder suicide door again

(01:04:24):
yeah, yeah, on the highwayand you killed a man and you killed
herself and all of this, andit's like, man, not only is
that tragic, but it's it's ait's a warning. I think who always
make sure that we have balance inthe perspective. The creation is beautiful.

(01:04:46):
The creation is beautiful. I haveyou ever been outside at night and a
time like where it's a clear skyand you can see all the stars and
stuff. It's beautiful. It's beautifulwhen it's high. Oh, it's absolutely
beautiful. It is. It ismagnificent, you know what I mean.

(01:05:08):
Like, it's absolutely beautiful when yousee a friend of mine was an airplane
today and they took a picture ofthem being on the other side of the
clouds, like above the clouds,Like it's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Like
this earth, this creation is amazingmm hmm. But I also think we

(01:05:32):
have to make sure that we keepthings in perspective. When I see that
beauty and when I see that logisticnature, I think about the marvelous,
like how marvelous and how brilliant andhow creative the creator is because it's in

(01:05:54):
pot like people act like believing thatthese things were created is some out there
theory, when it's like, no, it's the out there theory is believing
that all of this stuff just happensby accident, Like that's that's absurd,

(01:06:15):
the thing that all of these sortsof things just happens. So when I
look at when I see things likethe eclipse and and just the earth in
general, just the natural, justnature, natural earth in general, it's
just to me, it's just areminder of God's brilliance. That's what I

(01:06:36):
see. So on that note,we are going to go to Dante's Hot
Tees coming up next here on theOutlaws. Welcome Back, Welcome Back.

(01:06:58):
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not, it's Dante's hot takes onthe YELP Lawns radio show. Well O

(01:07:30):
J. Simpson not OJ to JuiceMan, as I saw somebody on Twitter
say the real OJ O J.Simpson passed away at seventy six from cancer.
That I'll just be honest, Ididn't know that he had I saw
him on Cavin Mace podcast and Iremember him saying it, or I see

(01:07:59):
the videos now of him saying itback in February around the time of the
Super Bowl. But no, OJlooked pretty good, he looked healthy,
and I didn't. It didn't dawnon me like, oh wow, OJ
was sick this you know, fora while he was battling cancer and it
took him at seventy six. Ididn't. I didn't recall that that he
had it or anything like that.So that was it was kind of a

(01:08:19):
shock. And then, of course, as always anytime OJ comes up,
people talk about football and Ojay's legacyand the sport of football is almost unassailable.
I always contend that if OJ playedfor a more iconic franchise, and

(01:08:45):
this is no disrespect to the BuffaloBills, it's a great franchise, a
great city for football. But ifhe played for let's say, the Dallas
Cowboys or the Pittsburgh Steelers, oryou know, the Green Bay Packers,
or you know, or the Raidersor somebody, or a team the Giants,
a team like that, there wouldbe conversations about oj being maybe the
greatest football player of all time.I mean, his legacy on a football

(01:09:10):
field is one of the most unassailablelegacies for a running back ever. And
then there's that other thing, theTrial of the Century, the murder of
Ronald Goleman and Nicoles Brown Simpson.And of course oj was acquitted due to

(01:09:38):
a masterful job by his legal teamled by Johnny Cochrane, and by the
prosecution dropping the ball at every turn. What really really stuck out to me
though yesterday, and it always sticksout whenever OJ is in the headlines,
is about what doesn't acquittal Act mean? What does it mean to actually be

(01:10:03):
acquitted of a crime in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty.
The burden of proof is on theprosecutor who brings the charges against the defendant.
They have to prove beyond a reasonabledoubt that you did what you have

(01:10:28):
been accused of. We have alegal system that's supposed to work that way
for a reason, and those reasonsbore out and came to fruition in the
OJ Simpson trial. So what Iwould say, and this has been getting
people in hot water, and peoplehave been getting pushed back because there is

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a large segment of the population thatstill believe OJ did the crimes. There
is some set that believe he didn't. Obviously this was very controversial along the
lines of race. But what Iwill say, and this is wild because

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I am agreeing with somebody who we'vetalked about on the show before, Mark
Lamont Hill. I'm agreeing with himin that whether OJ committed this crime or
not, he his acquittal was necessary. If if we believe in the legal
system, if the legal system issupposed to work as it was designed,

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O. J. Simpson's acquittal wasnecessary. Why because the state of the
lapd Mark Furman, who lied andthen had to plead the fifth, so

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that he didn't purge it himself,planted evidence as the lead detective, and
wasn't a vowed racist. That inand of itself is cause to create reasonable

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doubt. You cannot say otherwise.And then with the prosecution dropping the ball
every you know, every at prettymuch every turn, OJ's acquittal was necessary.
And I know that's controversial. Iknow people don't want to hear that,
because if you are convinced that OJcommitted these heeneous crimes, then you

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know you think he should he gotaway from it. He got away with
it. If you think that O. J. Simpson was an innocent man
and he was framed, then you'rehappy with the result. What I would
say is the acquittal was necessary basedon what the legal system means in terms
of what the legal system is supposedto stand for and what the burden of

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proof has to be. There isreasonable doubt there. The second point,
and a very crucial point, oJ I think became a symbol for Black
America, even though OJ distanced himselffrom Black America. That's a very complex

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conversation, but the one thing thatI want to tell people who are not
a part of Black America don't understandwhy this is such a controversial topic or
why it matters so much to blackpeople, because for years, and I
mean for years, black people havebeen screaming about the justice system being impartial

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or not actually being impartial as itshould be, about people being framed for
crimes, about how racist cops haveput people away, how the system has
not been blind, it has sawcolor, and how racism has bled over
into the justice. For years,We've been doing saying this, and then

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in the biggest trial really in Americanhistory, we saw it. We saw
a man walk because the lead detectivelie planted evidence and wasn't avowed racist.
That's why. On top of thefact that the LAPD and the La County

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Sheriff had gangs in their police force, and we were just on the heels
of the Rodney King beating, soit was necessary. It was a bad
time for the country, but thenineties in general were a wild time,
and this was maybe the height ofit. I think the only thing in

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that time span, I would say, from like team maybe let's say nineteen
eighty eight to like two thousand andone, the only thing probably bigger,
and I mean we're talking the AIDS, HIV pandemic, we're talking or epidemic.
We're you know, we're talking,and Thenda's brothers, we're you know,
we're talking a lot of stuff.The only thing that I think really
tops OJ is nine eleven. So, I mean, what an incredible,

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complicated and really outrageous life. OJ. Simpson lived for seventy six years.
Yeah, and I mean not elevenwas in two thousand and one,
so that was right after that periodof time, So there was there was
you could argue that there was nothingbigger in the nineties than that OJ trial.

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And I'll make this quick because wedon't have a ton of time left,
but I'll argue this. I'll saythis, and this was I think
this was mentioned on OJ's thirty forthirty. But and whether you like this
or not, it's just a statementof fact. If the Rodney King verdict
doesn't happen, the O J.Verdict doesn't happen, I truly believe that.

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