August 16, 2025 • 50 mins
On today's episode, Cleveland Councilman Joe Jones addresses the allegations of intimidation and of allegedly threatening someone. He gives his perspective on the alleged incidents and also gives his perspective on dealing with the allegations, how his family is handling it, the message to his voters who don't know what to believe and more.
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So we have a lot of things to discuss.
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Speaker 3 (02:32):
We have a very special guest with us today. He
is the Cleveland City Councilman of Ward one in the
City of Cleveland. Joe Jones, Welcome to the show. How
you doing, sir, I'm doing good.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm all right, I'm all right. So we have a
lot of stuff to discuss, a lot of things to
talk about. But first, before we dive into some of
the specific events, talk a little bit about your your
time as Ward one councilman, Talk a little bit about
your record and all of that good stuff for people
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who may.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Not know well, you know, first, I I haven't. I've
been in office for about seven and a half years,
serving the Ward one residence, and I enjoyed doing it.
It's a joy for me. I'm able to talk about
issues that are passionate to me, and we have been
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able to bring in working with various branches of government,
secured more than our office has been able to secure
more than three hundred and eighty million dollars a new
development for the citizens of Ward one, and that is
just in the eight years that I've been here, and
when you look at our record or service, we have
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facilitated the forty two million dollars developments of John F.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Kennedy High School.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
We have been able to bring in a fifteen million
dollar development of a new recreational facility, state of the
art Frederick Douglas's Park Area that's located over here on
Miles Avenue East one hundred and fifty sixth Street, and
we have put in infrastructure work on Miles Avenue ten
point nine million dollars invested eighty million dollars, facilitated the
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investment of Trimco Development to create jobs in our community.
And this was in my first four years. We signaled
to the market markets that we need to have development
in our community. When I took over the neighborhood, the
banks was giving away homes. I think our highest home
sales at that time of twenty eighteen was fifty nine thousand,
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no more than sixty thousand for a home in our area,
and again some homes were at the low end of
five thousand dollars. Now today, those same homes that were
in that five twenty fifteen thousand dollars are now solidly
selling at one hundred and forty five thousand, and we
have home sales on average at two hundred thousand dollars
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in our community. It is a quite of a change
in just a matter of eight years. And just here
on the projects that we have in front of us.
We're working on a one hundred million dollars working with
the Bibbs Administration, a new retail development at the Ojohn
and Candy site.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We are working with the library.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
We're going to have a new state of the art
library located on that location with both senior housing market rate.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And affordable living on that site.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
And that development is in part being developed by Eagles Nest,
which is a joint investors Black developers.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
In addition to the people who built the.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Pine Crest development, will be a part of developing this
one hundred million dollar project where the Ojohn of Kennedy
used to be. And we have also secured fifteen million
dollars for the redesign of Lee Road and reservicing of
new sewer and water lines. We're going to reimagine and
revision that entire intersection.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
There re border against Shaker.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
So the Caylaga County is going to make a flawless scene.
You won't be able to tell when you're coming into
le Row from the city of Cleveland and entering into
Shaker Heights. We've also secured twenty million dollars new housing
development on East one hundred and sixty seventh Street, which
will also be affordable and market rate homes. We have
worked with the administration to get five point one million
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dollars secure for a new JFK track and field, state
of the art stadium. And we have been able to
get three hundred and fifty six thousand opera funds to
build a new playground at Adelia Park with ventures and swings.
And we have supported and raised funds for a little
baseball teams sports teams in our community.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
We have facilitated eleven new.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Homes constructed for the very first time in twenty years
in our community new housing. And we're bringing safety closer
to home with a new mini police station coming to
the Lee Harvard area.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And one point one.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Million dollars invested in the Mount Pleasant area in terms
of resurfacing roads and infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I could just keep on going.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
The last project that we're working on, it's not the
last project, but it's a project that we're working on
now you've heard me talk about earlier, is the Ring
door Bell program.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We were able to raise.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Three hundred and ten thousand dollars to bring in and
install ring door bells for the citizens of War one,
and we were branding them away. Three two thousand citizens
in War one would be able to get a free
ring door bell installed.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
On their home.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and you
just laid out, you know, your record and a lot
of the things that you've done in the ward, in
your time in politics and your time is in government.
Has this particular season been different? This campaign season been
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different from the other ones that you've experienced.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
It has, you know, I truly enjoy campaigning, meeting voters
at the doorsteps, debates, political.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Forms, you know, late nights, early mornings. I love it all.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
But this political citizen has brought on an onslaught of
personal and malicious attacks like you know, I've never seen before.
My character and integrity are being and my family is
being attacked. It has been very stressful and it has
caused actual trauma to me, also resulting on me having
this stuff back and not be my authentic self. And
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these moments, unfortunately, are being amplified in ways that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Don't match the facts. It's an old.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Playbook, especially when it comes to black leadership, to take
something small or innocent and make it look menacing.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know, I'm not here to attack anyone.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I'm only simply here to fight for the citizens of
Lee Harvard Ward one to make sure that they get
their fair share of city services and that they get
the type of investments that we see other communities enjoin.
And we want to see an improvement in quality of
life for the people who live here.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's why I ramp a bub of office to improve the.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Quality of life for the citizens who live in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So one of the one of the issues that have
come up, let's kind of address that. So let's talk
a little bit about the Cleveland City Council meeting where
a staff member accused you of intimidation. Can you walk
us through exactly what happened from your p I do.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You know, when the presentation was being made by Kevin Comwell,
when it began, I was standing at the rear of
the chamber of Cleveland City Council.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I really could not hear.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Any of the remarks from that area because of the acoustics,
so I moved forward simply to listen to have to
hear exactly what was being said, in addition to enjoying
the music that was being played by the younger people
who were actually playing the instruments. I did not notice
anyone personally, and I certainly had no intention to intimidate anyone.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
This was a moment driven.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Solely by my desire to follow the presentation, not to
single out anyone or make them feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did you have any prior interactions with the staff member
that might explain why they interpret it that way.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I've had we had interactions.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
The prior interactions in the past, which was contentious relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
However, reported close to.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
A year now, I've had no interactions with her at all.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So if that person were listening now, and they may be,
what would you say to them directly?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
It is unfortunate that our interactions have resulted in misunderstandings,
and I would let them know that I have no
ill will or malicious intent towards them. My only desire
is to serve the citizens and residents of Ward one.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones. So with that,
how can elected officials create spaces where misunderstandings like this
are less likely to occur, but while still doing their
jobs effectively.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I think keeping the communication channels open, being consistent and
and your messaging.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think we need to build a cultural and uh.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Interpersonal awareness, and we need to mediate misunderstandings as soon
as they arise, because I think that's the biggest issue.
If someone feels uncomfortable with you or words that you
may say to them, are they misinterpret or misunderstand that
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what you're saying. You know, we're all adults here, so
we should have someone to mediate those misunderstandings. When people
can't seem to communicate pass what they see maybe as
something that is intimidating to them. So you know, we're
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all adults. We should all communicate. If if if I
make you feel uncomfortable, if I say.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Something to you that you.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Feel was uncomfortable, then you know, than because I was
offended by what you had to say, or I didn't
like that, or what do you mean? You know, these
are clarifying, you know, the things that is one on
one to some degree. But and I don't want to
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look at this and try to.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Say that this situation is not serious.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I take every allegation seriously that a person makes to me.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So I think mediate misunderstandings and.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Have a system in place where where people can can
have a smoother relationship when situations arise.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
All right, now, let's talk about the conversation with your
long term colleague about fixing your computer. What was the
nature of your working relationship over the past eight years.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I have known this individual.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
We work closely together, you know, over a decade.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We have.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Joking report in the past during our conversations about technical issues,
I made an offhand joke saying that if he didn't
if he did not, I actually did. He was working
on my passwords, so I told him. I said, hey, man,
don't get my password out, or I'll blow you up
on your motorcycle. And that comment was made in the
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presence of one of my interns. There was no indication
of this comfort or fear at that moment, and in fact,
there was laughter, and the conversation proceeded. The following day,
though this comment came into question by a city council
employee and the presence of this gentleman to whom the
statement was made, and when asked if he thought my
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comment was serious, my colleague responded, I guess not.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I reinstated that I.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Was joking and would never harm you, and that comment
was meant in the spirit of long standing friendship, not
as a threat, and I immediately apologize to him. The
next day, and several days later another issue arose that
I needed his assistance. He assisted me with resolving the
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problem and we spoke on the telephone for more.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Than an hour. So, just to be clear, how did
the comment about blowing up your motorcycle come about? And
what did you mean by it?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It was as it was an offhand comment.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Made to someone with someone whom I have shared a
very cordial relationship with.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Over the time here that we have known each other,
we have.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Frequently discussed many personal personal topics. We talked about our families,
So I meant no harm. I don't understand how he
took it as that, and I was shocked at he.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Took it that way.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
When the colleague told you that they thought it might
have been a threat, what was your response to that, how.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Did you respond?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Well, First, I want to be clear that the individual
never told me that he felt threatned. The description of
our intellection was first used by another employee of city
Council upon hearing that he felt threatened. I immediately responded
and apologized to him.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
So we've talked on this show before about and I
mean me as me and my co host. We've talked
about the climate and where how the climate is right
now and everything. So what does this incident say about
the climate that we're in where words, even put in
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a joking context, can be viewed or recast in harmful ways.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, it's it's one of those things where.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
When you use positively this climate, it should encourage open
dialogue about language and its effects on others. This would
foster an environment where everyone feels respected and valued. However,
when misconstrued and used maliciously, as in my situation, it
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can lead to tension and what we're seeing now assassination
of my character.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and you
mentioned earlier about attacks on blackmail leaders, and I know
that this has come up before, and this again is
something that I've talked about on the show as well.
Do you believe that there is a pattern of mischaracterization
targeting black male leaders, both locally and nationally.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, it is a troubling trend.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
You can see that trend here as well as nationally,
where black male leaders often face excessive scrutiny and even
benign actions or words may you know, be interpreted or
portrayed as threatening or malicious. And we see this often
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that black men are portrayed in a very negative way
as historically being viewed as threatening, as criminals, as thugs.
We see this constantly played out in our media.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's in front of us every day.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We see how we're dealt with, and we see how
we black public officials are disproportionately singled out and discredited
compared to their white counterparts.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So I'm sure that there are some of your residents
that are trying to figure out.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, they don't know what to believe.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So what is your response to residents who hear the
allegations and aren't sure what to believe?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Well, you know, the first and foremost, I welcome the
opportunity to speak with them personally. My door is always
open and my phone line is always open.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And if you want to the truth, ask me, not
the rumor. Maills. So I always try to do my
best to.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Honestly talk to people, explain to them what is happening.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We know that we.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
See the situation of our society where a mode can
be made into a mountain, and we see a lot
of that politically speaking when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Black men in our community. But my message simply to
my citizens, come and talk to me. I'm your counselor.
I'm honored to have the opportunity to serve as a counselor.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So obviously you're in the middle of running for reelection
and you're still you're the sitting councilman now, so you
still have to do your job as counselmen, but you
also have to respond to a lot of the allegations
and attacks. So how do you balance defending yourself with
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staying focused on doing the work that you need to
do for Ward one?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, it's simple.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Do not become distracted by the lies and the noise,
but stay focused on the goal. And that goal right here,
right now is serving the residents of War one with
vigor and integrity. We can't let distractions take our eyes
off the real work making our community a place where.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
We are all proud to call our homes.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
And that is my focus, and I try to stay
focused there on that. I try to make sure that
I remember the most important thing first. The most important
thing first is serving the citizens of this community.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So I think you know, people forget sometimes that you
know when you're when you're elected official, when you run
for public office, when you're in public office, is certain
things that you know you've become subject to and it's
just kind of part.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Of the job.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But I asked you we were talking a little bit
before the show started, and I wanted to ask you here,
how how do you deal with the things that you've
had to deal with in this race?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
How is your family dealing with it? Like?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
How how are you all processing all of this stuff?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It is always.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Difficult when you have people say things that are not
true and they cast allegations against you, and you're the
person left there to try to make explanations out of
these allegations, and it is really difficult, and it's hard
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in taxing on the family. My family has been threatened,
and it's really it takes a lot to be in
public office and to have to endure.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
These personal attacks.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
But we try to do everything we can as a
family just to stay spiritually grounded and make sure that
you know, we focus in and our strength comes from
our love for God.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And our family and our friends.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
All Right, we're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones,
and we talked a little bit earlier about your record,
and you went into detail about a lot of the
big projects and things that you've done.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Let's drill a little bit on that and talk a little.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Bit about some of the times that you've worked closely
with seniors, women and vulnerable residents to address their needs specifically.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, we have done.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
One of the things I think is really important is
as a counselman, we have set up and we have
been thankful to have worked with creating lawn and care
programs for our senior citizens.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We assist them when they need assistants we need my office.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
We have worked with domestic bolence and awareness and education programs.
I have supported the Women's Commission of Cleveland. I am
often pagged to be a speaker and supporter of the
Women's March of Cleveland, and and we we really make
sure that we open ourselves.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Up to assisting in helping our our brothers and our
sisters in our community.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
And I'm appreciative to have a lot of great people
working to help us and we help them move our
community forward.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So we work with a number.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Of organizations and institutions over the years, especially programs dealing
with domestic violence and awareness.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Right right, So.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
With everything, if residents have concerns, how can they reach
you directly? Directly is being accessible to your constituents and
something that's important to you.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well, you know, I love my people so much that
you know, I publish my personal cell phone. My cell
phone is on all of my literature. Not only do
I have my.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Office phone, but I also have my cell phone there.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
And I make sure that I try to contact my
people back within twelve to twenty four hours that they
contact me. So they actually have direct assets to me
as it relates to their concerns and issues in the community.
And you call your life and safety residents even call
me at nighttime.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They come to my home.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I have if they have problems, I have a Ward
office where I'm completely accessible to them to walk in
with their issues and situations. And we work tireusly to
make sure that we give and we offer direct services
through all the sisions.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Of Ward one community. So let's talk a little bit
about moving forward.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We've addressed some of the things that have been said
in the allegations and so on. Let's talk a little
bit about the future. What is your vision for the
future if you're re elected, what's your plan for Ward
one and to ensure that War one gets its fair
share of resources. Attention, Well, we as you heard earlier,
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you know, the focus is rebuilding our community.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You know we have several multi million dollar projects in place.
We're building your homes.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
My goal is to continue to push for more investments
in our community, building more homes, getting more money to
fix up our infrastructure, our roads, and repair work in
our parks and our public places, in addition to programs
to help senior citizens and citizens in general to fix
and repair their homes, Programs that will assist our community
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to grow an age in place.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That is my goal.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
My goal is constantly to work to grind to make
sure that we have the kind of investments that we
see happening in other parts of the greater Cleveland area.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and as
we wind down here, for anybody listening who might have
questions or doubts, what's your message? What's your personal message
to them?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Right now well, I want the voters to remember the accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I want them to when they get ready to go
to the polls.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
I want them to understand that I have been blessed
and fortunate. God has allowed me to bring in over
three hundred and eighty million dollars into this to make
into this neighborhood. I want them to understand that there
is no other neighborhood in community that is giving away
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two thousand three ring video doorbells that we were able
to raise that money for, and it's for keeping our
community safe. And if God allows me the opportunity to
continue to serve his people, I'm going to continue to
get another two thousand ring door bells and another two
thousand ring door bells. I want to make sure that
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our entire community has cameras in it, even enter our businesses,
because what we have saw, they have resolved a number
of crimes and murders in our neighborhood. And so if
every one of our senior citizens have ring rebels, that
is the greatest block club, block watch that.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You could ever have. So I want them to remember
that I'm working hard for.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Them, and real quick before we close here, I want
to dig into that a little bit more because you
are one of the council people that I hear talk
a lot about safety and addressing the safety concerns of
your residents. Talk a little bit about why that's important
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to you, and also what you've heard from the residents
about their safety needs and what they want to see.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It is. You know, at the end of the day,
if you don't feel safe in your community, you're going
to lead.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
We want every scene, little citizen in our community to
feel safe.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That means that we should have.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
The required amount of police visibility and availability. That means
that we have to hold accountable our elected officials from
the mayor on down. That means that our citizens need
to get involved. We can no longer afford to ignore
issues and problems that are happening around us. And if
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we see something, we have to say something. And as
a lifelong resident of our Ward, someone who has raised
his family, I've been in this community, I'm committed to
advocating for the best community.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Safety is important to me.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I have been raised up as a child, I'm raising
my family and I think that at the end of
the day, we should be able to walk up and
down our sidewalks, go grocery shopping, come home from work,
and not have to worry.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
About a safety issue. So safety is paramount.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It is important I fight tireusly down on city Council
to make sure that the men and women of the
police department get everything that they ask for at the table.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And I've supported every safety.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Initiative that I could possibly be engaged and involved with.
And that's one of the reasons why again I hate
to keep saying it again, but that ring.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Door bell getting those installed in our.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Neighborhoods will absolutely marketably improve our safety plan and worldwide.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely a very big deal. And so
as we as we get ready to close here, I
feel for a lot of you know, the average person,
the average resident who doesn't really follow this stuff on
a regular basis, and they just hear so many different
things and there's so many things that are coming at
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them and they're just trying to figure out what's true
and what's not. So, in your view, what would you
recommend that voters can do to cut through the noise,
and you know people don't know what's true.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Well, voters should be able to pick up that phone
if they need or they have questions, not to jump
to conclusions. Step back, take a look at what you
have as it relates to the politics of things, and.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Look at the other candidates.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
There has been no other candidate in the history of
this neighborhood that has been fortunate to bring the kind
of funds as you talked.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
About, as you heard me talk about earlier to.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
This neighborhood in this community. So to cut through the noise, remember.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
The work that's done, Understand who's.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Doing the work, get involved, come through our community meetings,
be good neighbors because when residents do that, they truly
understand what's actually going on in the neighborhood and it's
one of the ways that they can cut through a
lot of the noise. Every month, I meil out to
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every single resident in this community a monthly meeting notice
talking about various different issues as subjects and programs that
will help them improve their homes, help them to get
tax relief, and a multi myriad of other issues and
services that we try to constantly and consistently bring to
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the voters. So just want them to remember when they
need to cut through that noise. Step back, take a
look at what you have.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Let everybody know if they want to get in contact
with you, if you have social media, your website, all
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes I do, I got I have Facebook.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
That's one of our prime areas that we that we're
focused on. We have other media outlets that we have.
The biggest way to communicate to us and our office
is the old way of emails, in addition to picking
up the phone and making the phone goll, that's the
fastest way you can get me. If you want your counselman,
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like yesterday, pick up the phone, give me a call.
I'm honored to have the opportunity to serve as your counselman.
And I'm appreciative of the fact that God has allowed
me the opportunity to serve. And as I serve, I
try to do everything I can to serve well with integrity.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
All Right, thank you so much for coming on the
show and spend us some time with this consul, and
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
I appreciate coming on your show, and this is my
first time. I want to be able to have another opportunity.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
As you, sir. Absolutely stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We have tea time with Row coming up.
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Speaker 4 (34:57):
All right, so yah, I got some stuff for y'all.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
This one's actually pretty funny. If you're brave enough to
do this, shout out to you. But like, I'm scared
to even go into the airport with a wire in
my brawl, let alone with this lady, did okay, because
you be setting off alarms and stuff. Okay, Now this
lady she is facing felony charges at the DC Airport
(35:24):
after she tried to fly with fifty nine pounds of
marijuana to Europe to maximize her profits.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Girl, I mean a for effort, A for effort.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
But maybe if she would have like made the bag
not as heavy, she might have got she might have
got away with it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
She might have got away with us.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
She don't get on a forever. She get a da dummy, Like,
what the hell were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Like you on the airport?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Federal? Like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I guess so? I mean she she had packed pretty nicely.
I ain't gonna lie to you. She had a packed
pretty nicely.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It was flat, so did the pictures.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
They showed a picture. Listen, So how does she have
a pack?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Describe it all.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Right, So it's in this cute, this cute little hardback.
I just sent it to you, this hardback suitcase. And
on the inside, like the clothes they're like are clothes.
So the marijuana is like vacuum sealed inside of this bag.
And it just looked really nice and neat. I'm not
even gonna lie to you. She had a nice in
(36:36):
neat whoever did it right? But it was just a
little too heavy.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
How stupid.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
So I said, send it to you. I sent it
to you on Instagram, Darby.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Okay, yeah, but that's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And here I am.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Listen, listen, I've matter of fact, DARVYO. I just listened
speaking at airport. Okay, listen, I had running I had
a run in with the airport and Florida, by the way, Orlando,
f y'all.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You always have one.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You always have a run in with the No they mama.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
They came from my mama, and that's where they messed
up that. And I was hungry.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh boy, so you were hungry too.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Hey listen, I went off on the TSA and I
went off on Homeland Security.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Oh my god, Yes I did.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yes, I did. They had it coming. Don't come from
my mama. Shut that big head man down too.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
He shut up?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Okay real quick? What did they do?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
So real quick? So you know how Okay?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
So here in Ohio, you know they when we get
our IDs, we had they start us off with the paper.
Well my mama she had the paper copy. Well they
was not happy with that in Orlando, but in Cleveland
they were like, I don't care, go ahead, go through.
So her other ID was expired, her hard copy I
(37:55):
d because she did not get her new copy with
the star on it. Yet this man at TSA literally
screamed out loud to everybody in the airport her h's expired.
Her Hi, he's inspired, And I was just like, are
you freaking kidding me? Right now? He said, take her
over to the podium, take her over to the white podium.
(38:15):
And this kid that was pushing my mom in a wheelchair,
he was like so he looked scared. He was new
working there, and so he takes her over there and
the the TSA guy goes. He was like, he told me,
aren't you going to go through the metal detector? I said, now,
what the hell would I go through the metal detector?
And you send my elderly mother.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Over there to go get questioned, right, And he was like, oh, okay, whatever,
and like this some old lady in line was she
was all of her was oh wow, girls, shut up,
shut up.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
But yeah, so that ended up happening like it was
a lot more than that. But I went off on him.
And then with the Homeland Security they tell my mom
because you know, she has early onset dementia and she's
also elderly, and they told her, we're going to ask
you a sum of questions and if you don't have
the answers, you are not a lot of Google it
(39:14):
text anybody, call anybody. If you don't know the answers,
then we're gonna have to go a different route. I
start chuckling, Oh, I can't wait to go home, because listen,
I'm listening because you are already know what card.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
You know, you already know where I went. You already
know where I went.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But they moved it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Along pretty quickly. We did not miss her plane. But yeah,
it was that.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
That was I will I never ever ever want to
take Orlando Airport again ever again.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
It was it was horrible.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So so, ladies and gentlemen, we have had a and
some of you are new to this show, so you
may not know this, we have had a recurring theme
on this show. Dante myself both trying to keep Robin
out of jail.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I've never been in jail, you guys, I've never
I've never been arrested.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
And we're trying to make sure she doesn't get arrested.
And there this isn't the first time she's had an
incident at the airport before.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Man, because then people in the airport think they somebody listen,
they need to watch themselves. Yeah, listen, y'all, I'll tell
you what episodes to go back and listen, because then
people play in your face and they try to play
you like you you being arrested or something, or like
it's jail, like you some prisoner or something like they
do too much sometimes.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The last the last incident that she had, it was
it was bad. It was, it was bad, and I
was I was like, Lord, please don't go to jail.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Don't talking about the lady that was like got an
attitude and I got smart with her.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, you're talking about security TSA lady.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
The one you was about to fight.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
See seeing what I'm saying, Lad, she just said two
separate incidents in addition to the one that she's talking
about tonight.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
So the TSA lady last time she wanted to she
asked me about my daddy's It was his urn on
a necklace and she was like, but does that open?
I was like, yes, it opens. Is there anything? Yes,
there's something in it, and I ain't opening it.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
The girl.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
She was like, I didn't ask you to open it? Well,
why were you asking me those stupid questions?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Lord, pray pray for her, y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Make sure you.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Pray for them.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
They need they need, they need help. They just met
their match.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Go for the next story, This said.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Nah, all right, So the next story.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
This is crazy, you guys, so our childhood. Anybody that
grew up in the nineties two thousands. This is our childhood,
like we we lived for this. Okay, b E t
b ET suspends the Soul Train and the Hip Hop
(42:18):
Awards indefinitely.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Oh that hurts.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
That hurts because, like I don't know about you, DARVYO,
but like I grew up watching a lot of these awards,
the music awards, and so just knowing that like this
is like the end of an era.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah. I used to watch them religiously, like I would
live live, tweet them or live Facebook sometimes, like just
watch it religiously, and particularly.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
The Soul Train Awards.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
The Soule Train Awards was my favorite awards show that
anybody did period. Like I loved the Soul Train Awards.
I used to watch the BT hip Hop Awards. I
kind of fell out of love with the Hip Hop
Awards because you know, some of the music started being
whack and so that made the performances whax.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
So it wasn't fun to watch no more. But the
Soul Train Awards, man, that was man.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I will watch that, you know, every chance I had,
And it's unfortunate. I know, the CEO said that they
were looking at you know, re examining ways that they
can like new I forget exactly how you said it,
but like new ways that they could reimagine that's the
corporate word, reimagine what.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
It looks like in the future.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Maybe they put it on streaming or something like that,
but I hope they bring it back because I do
think that that is that's a definite blow to the
culture to not have that, especially.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The Soul Train Awards, Like the Soul Train Awards.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Is the last, you know, continual thing left from the
legacy of Soul Train. And there's a lot of us,
a lot of us who wouldn't be here if it
wasn't for what Don Cornelius did in the creation of
Soul Train, being the first, the first black man to
(44:26):
you know, have his name at the end of a
show as executive producer, to own the show, to own
the the trademark, to own the production.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Like all of that, there's all of.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Us me included are people who benefit to this day
from you know what, what Don Cornelius built in the
Soul Trained era. So the Soul Train Awards in particular,
like it's I think it sucks that both of them
are postponing, definitely, but particularly the Soul Train Awards. Like
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that that sucks, That really sucks.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
That's all right.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
So the next one, this one is going to blow
a lot of people's minds. This is actually crazy. So
when I read this, I was like, dang, like that
baby would be almost like that would be like almost
our generation?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yes, would that be?
Speaker 4 (45:29):
So let's see.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
So a child has been born from an embryo frozen
in nineteen ninety four, making it the quote unquote oldest
baby ever.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Now, let me tell you what. Let me try me,
let me try to pronounce this baby's name.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Oh, Daddius dadeus.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I don't know. I don't know how to say it.
It sounds like some rich the prince's name. I don't
really know.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That is proud. That is that?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Okay? That is Daniel Pierce.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh yeah, that sounds like original name. Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
So it says the embryo was one of four created.
One became her daughter now thirty while hold on, wait
what while the others were frozen for over thirty years.
So the one she ended up having, right, But then
her siblings weren't born for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
So my question is like, so how old?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
First of all, how old is the baby, and then too,
like I wonder like if there's any physical impacts to that,
right because the baby is a baby, but the DNA
is from nineteen ninety four, so like I'm really curious
about Like I was soon A said I was born
(46:59):
A seven A ninety ninety one two three, I was
seven years old. So like this when you said, like, yeah,
that child the embryo was in our age group, it was,
he'd be if that baby was born in ninety four,
he'd be an older millennial right now.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Like he'd like completely skipped out on all the crap
that we had to endure, like all that everything, all
all thething in the history books.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
He was frozen thirty one.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I think maybe like thirty thirty one. So ah, man,
I don't know. I have so many questions, and I
definitely want to know, like physically what that means for
that baby.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You know what I'm saying, Like, oh my god, that's
just And then.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
Look it says his name Fatius peaked in popularity in
nineteen eighteen, ranking three hundred and seventh and was eight
hundred and fiftieth in twenty twenty four, giving it as
old fashioned charm.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
So you got an old baby with an old name.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Hey, but I'll tell you what, Darviio. That baby is
set for life. Oh he is going to be set
for life. You cannot tell me otherwise. I don't know
if he is or not.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
But just by his story, oh yeah, he gonna be
in headlines on the front covers.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
And yeah, and for something like that. His mama probably
ain't broke either. So did they have did a surrogate?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Uh? So?
Speaker 5 (48:31):
It says that it was conceived through IVF by Linda archerd.
The embryo was one of four blah blah blah, while
the others were frozen. After her divorce, Archer chose embryo adoption,
selecting Lindsey and Tim Pierrece, so she had the baby.
(48:54):
The transfer was overseen by doctor John Gordon at a
faith based fertility clinic.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
And that's really all it ever says. Wow, yeah, okay,
that's crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, you don't say that every day, that's for sure,
all right. I don't know how to follow you.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
Yes, follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley, Facebook
at Robin O'Malley and I'm actually like on TikTok a
lot too, so real, Robin O'Malley, and you.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Can follow me at DI to King Penn everywhere, or
like I like to say, every where, d T H.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
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Speaker 3 (49:37):
All Right, we are out of here, See you next week.
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But first, miss O'Malley, how are you.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm okay, DARBYO. I'm okay. Kind of been with some things,
but today today I'm good. I'm doing better today.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah. I know we're not gonna talk about it, but
I know that life life be life and sometimes with you, man.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'm telling you, I think it's like written in the
cards or something for me or must be capricorn thing.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I don't know, like we were meant to be successful.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
So life be like yeah, curveball.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
But I'm all right right now. You know, I'm good today.
I'm happy.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm doing a lot better.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm doing good.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm all right, man, I'm all right. It's been been
a long day, a long week. I'm looking forward to
the weekend for sure, even though it's supposed to be
I don't I haven't seen the forecast lately, so I
don't know if it changed or not.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But last time I saw.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The forecast, the weekend is supposed to be six degrees
hotter than hell.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So I'm not looking forward to that.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah, you know what, And I got an eventful weekend,
and so yeah, you know, big old, big old bottle
of water, big gallon, big old things.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
All right, because it's gonna be, like I said, six
degrees hotter than the hell. So make sure that y'all
stay hydrated and your electrolytes what he said, right, all right,
So we have a lot of things to discuss.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
We have an interview that we're gonna get to right now.
All right.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We have a very special guest with us today. He
is the Cleveland City Councilman of Ward one in the
City of Cleveland. Joe Jones, Welcome to the show. How
you doing, sir, I'm doing good.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm all right, I'm all right. So we have a
lot of stuff to discuss, a lot of things to
talk about. But first, before we dive into some of
the specific events, talk a little bit about your your
time as Ward one councilman, Talk a little bit about
your record and all of that good stuff for people
(03:10):
who may.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Not know well, you know, first, I I haven't. I've
been in office for about seven and a half years,
serving the Ward one residence, and I enjoyed doing it.
It's a joy for me. I'm able to talk about
issues that are passionate to me, and we have been
(03:32):
able to bring in working with various branches of government,
secured more than our office has been able to secure
more than three hundred and eighty million dollars a new
development for the citizens of Ward one, and that is
just in the eight years that I've been here, and
when you look at our record or service, we have
(03:55):
facilitated the forty two million dollars developments of John F.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Kennedy High School.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
We have been able to bring in a fifteen million
dollar development of a new recreational facility, state of the
art Frederick Douglas's Park Area that's located over here on
Miles Avenue East one hundred and fifty sixth Street, and
we have put in infrastructure work on Miles Avenue ten
point nine million dollars invested eighty million dollars, facilitated the
(04:25):
investment of Trimco Development to create jobs in our community.
And this was in my first four years. We signaled
to the market markets that we need to have development
in our community. When I took over the neighborhood, the
banks was giving away homes. I think our highest home
sales at that time of twenty eighteen was fifty nine thousand,
(04:49):
no more than sixty thousand for a home in our area,
and again some homes were at the low end of
five thousand dollars. Now today, those same homes that were
in that five twenty fifteen thousand dollars are now solidly
selling at one hundred and forty five thousand, and we
have home sales on average at two hundred thousand dollars
(05:11):
in our community. It is a quite of a change
in just a matter of eight years. And just here
on the projects that we have in front of us.
We're working on a one hundred million dollars working with
the Bibbs Administration, a new retail development at the Ojohn
and Candy site.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We are working with the library.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
We're going to have a new state of the art
library located on that location with both senior housing market rate.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And affordable living on that site.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
And that development is in part being developed by Eagles Nest,
which is a joint investors Black developers.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
In addition to the people who built the.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Pine Crest development, will be a part of developing this
one hundred million dollar project where the Ojohn of Kennedy
used to be. And we have also secured fifteen million
dollars for the redesign of Lee Road and reservicing of
new sewer and water lines. We're going to reimagine and
revision that entire intersection.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
There re border against Shaker.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
So the Caylaga County is going to make a flawless scene.
You won't be able to tell when you're coming into
le Row from the city of Cleveland and entering into
Shaker Heights. We've also secured twenty million dollars new housing
development on East one hundred and sixty seventh Street, which
will also be affordable and market rate homes. We have
worked with the administration to get five point one million
(06:41):
dollars secure for a new JFK track and field, state
of the art stadium. And we have been able to
get three hundred and fifty six thousand opera funds to
build a new playground at Adelia Park with ventures and swings.
And we have supported and raised funds for a little
baseball teams sports teams in our community.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
We have facilitated eleven new.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Homes constructed for the very first time in twenty years
in our community new housing. And we're bringing safety closer
to home with a new mini police station coming to
the Lee Harvard area.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And one point one.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Million dollars invested in the Mount Pleasant area in terms
of resurfacing roads and infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I could just keep on going.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
The last project that we're working on, it's not the
last project, but it's a project that we're working on
now you've heard me talk about earlier, is the Ring
door Bell program.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We were able to raise.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Three hundred and ten thousand dollars to bring in and
install ring door bells for the citizens of War one,
and we were branding them away. Three two thousand citizens
in War one would be able to get a free
ring door bell installed.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
On their home.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and you
just laid out, you know, your record and a lot
of the things that you've done in the ward, in
your time in politics and your time is in government.
Has this particular season been different? This campaign season been
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different from the other ones that you've experienced.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
It has, you know, I truly enjoy campaigning, meeting voters
at the doorsteps, debates, political.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Forms, you know, late nights, early mornings. I love it all.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
But this political citizen has brought on an onslaught of
personal and malicious attacks like you know, I've never seen before.
My character and integrity are being and my family is
being attacked. It has been very stressful and it has
caused actual trauma to me, also resulting on me having
this stuff back and not be my authentic self. And
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these moments, unfortunately, are being amplified in ways that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Don't match the facts. It's an old.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Playbook, especially when it comes to black leadership, to take
something small or innocent and make it look menacing.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know, I'm not here to attack anyone.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I'm only simply here to fight for the citizens of
Lee Harvard Ward one to make sure that they get
their fair share of city services and that they get
the type of investments that we see other communities enjoin.
And we want to see an improvement in quality of
life for the people who live here.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's why I ramp a bub of office to improve the.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Quality of life for the citizens who live in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So one of the one of the issues that have
come up, let's kind of address that. So let's talk
a little bit about the Cleveland City Council meeting where
a staff member accused you of intimidation. Can you walk
us through exactly what happened from your p I do.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You know, when the presentation was being made by Kevin Comwell,
when it began, I was standing at the rear of
the chamber of Cleveland City Council.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I really could not hear.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Any of the remarks from that area because of the acoustics,
so I moved forward simply to listen to have to
hear exactly what was being said, in addition to enjoying
the music that was being played by the younger people
who were actually playing the instruments. I did not notice
anyone personally, and I certainly had no intention to intimidate anyone.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
This was a moment driven.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Solely by my desire to follow the presentation, not to
single out anyone or make them feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did you have any prior interactions with the staff member
that might explain why they interpret it that way.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I've had we had interactions.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
The prior interactions in the past, which was contentious relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
However, reported close to.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
A year now, I've had no interactions with her at all.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So if that person were listening now, and they may be,
what would you say to them directly?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
It is unfortunate that our interactions have resulted in misunderstandings,
and I would let them know that I have no
ill will or malicious intent towards them. My only desire
is to serve the citizens and residents of Ward one.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones. So with that,
how can elected officials create spaces where misunderstandings like this
are less likely to occur, but while still doing their
jobs effectively.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I think keeping the communication channels open, being consistent and
and your messaging.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think we need to build a cultural and uh.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Interpersonal awareness, and we need to mediate misunderstandings as soon
as they arise, because I think that's the biggest issue.
If someone feels uncomfortable with you or words that you
may say to them, are they misinterpret or misunderstand that
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what you're saying. You know, we're all adults here, so
we should have someone to mediate those misunderstandings. When people
can't seem to communicate pass what they see maybe as
something that is intimidating to them. So you know, we're
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all adults. We should all communicate. If if if I
make you feel uncomfortable, if I say.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Something to you that you.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Feel was uncomfortable, then you know, than because I was
offended by what you had to say, or I didn't
like that, or what do you mean? You know, these
are clarifying, you know, the things that is one on
one to some degree. But and I don't want to
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look at this and try to.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Say that this situation is not serious.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I take every allegation seriously that a person makes to me.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So I think mediate misunderstandings and.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Have a system in place where where people can can
have a smoother relationship when situations arise.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
All right, now, let's talk about the conversation with your
long term colleague about fixing your computer. What was the
nature of your working relationship over the past eight years.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I have known this individual.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
We work closely together, you know, over a decade.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We have.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Joking report in the past during our conversations about technical issues,
I made an offhand joke saying that if he didn't
if he did not, I actually did. He was working
on my passwords, so I told him. I said, hey, man,
don't get my password out, or I'll blow you up
on your motorcycle. And that comment was made in the
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presence of one of my interns. There was no indication
of this comfort or fear at that moment, and in fact,
there was laughter, and the conversation proceeded. The following day,
though this comment came into question by a city council
employee and the presence of this gentleman to whom the
statement was made, and when asked if he thought my
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comment was serious, my colleague responded, I guess not.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I reinstated that I.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Was joking and would never harm you, and that comment
was meant in the spirit of long standing friendship, not
as a threat, and I immediately apologize to him. The
next day, and several days later another issue arose that
I needed his assistance. He assisted me with resolving the
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problem and we spoke on the telephone for more.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Than an hour. So, just to be clear, how did
the comment about blowing up your motorcycle come about? And
what did you mean by it?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It was as it was an offhand comment.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Made to someone with someone whom I have shared a
very cordial relationship with.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Over the time here that we have known each other,
we have.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Frequently discussed many personal personal topics. We talked about our families,
So I meant no harm. I don't understand how he
took it as that, and I was shocked at he.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Took it that way.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
When the colleague told you that they thought it might
have been a threat, what was your response to that, how.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Did you respond?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Well, First, I want to be clear that the individual
never told me that he felt threatned. The description of
our intellection was first used by another employee of city
Council upon hearing that he felt threatened. I immediately responded
and apologized to him.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
So we've talked on this show before about and I
mean me as me and my co host. We've talked
about the climate and where how the climate is right
now and everything. So what does this incident say about
the climate that we're in where words, even put in
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a joking context, can be viewed or recast in harmful ways.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, it's it's one of those things where.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
When you use positively this climate, it should encourage open
dialogue about language and its effects on others. This would
foster an environment where everyone feels respected and valued. However,
when misconstrued and used maliciously, as in my situation, it
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can lead to tension and what we're seeing now assassination
of my character.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and you
mentioned earlier about attacks on blackmail leaders, and I know
that this has come up before, and this again is
something that I've talked about on the show as well.
Do you believe that there is a pattern of mischaracterization
targeting black male leaders, both locally and nationally.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, it is a troubling trend.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
You can see that trend here as well as nationally,
where black male leaders often face excessive scrutiny and even
benign actions or words may you know, be interpreted or
portrayed as threatening or malicious. And we see this often
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that black men are portrayed in a very negative way
as historically being viewed as threatening, as criminals, as thugs.
We see this constantly played out in our media.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's in front of us every day.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We see how we're dealt with, and we see how
we black public officials are disproportionately singled out and discredited
compared to their white counterparts.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So I'm sure that there are some of your residents
that are trying to figure out.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, they don't know what to believe.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So what is your response to residents who hear the
allegations and aren't sure what to believe?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Well, you know, the first and foremost, I welcome the
opportunity to speak with them personally. My door is always
open and my phone line is always open.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And if you want to the truth, ask me, not
the rumor. Maills. So I always try to do my
best to.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Honestly talk to people, explain to them what is happening.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We know that we.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
See the situation of our society where a mode can
be made into a mountain, and we see a lot
of that politically speaking when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Black men in our community. But my message simply to
my citizens, come and talk to me. I'm your counselor.
I'm honored to have the opportunity to serve as a counselor.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So obviously you're in the middle of running for reelection
and you're still you're the sitting councilman now, so you
still have to do your job as counselmen, but you
also have to respond to a lot of the allegations
and attacks. So how do you balance defending yourself with
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staying focused on doing the work that you need to
do for Ward one?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, it's simple.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Do not become distracted by the lies and the noise,
but stay focused on the goal. And that goal right here,
right now is serving the residents of War one with
vigor and integrity. We can't let distractions take our eyes
off the real work making our community a place where.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
We are all proud to call our homes.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
And that is my focus, and I try to stay
focused there on that. I try to make sure that
I remember the most important thing first. The most important
thing first is serving the citizens of this community.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So I think you know, people forget sometimes that you
know when you're when you're elected official, when you run
for public office, when you're in public office, is certain
things that you know you've become subject to and it's
just kind of part.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Of the job.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But I asked you we were talking a little bit
before the show started, and I wanted to ask you here,
how how do you deal with the things that you've
had to deal with in this race?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
How is your family dealing with it? Like?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
How how are you all processing all of this stuff?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It is always.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Difficult when you have people say things that are not
true and they cast allegations against you, and you're the
person left there to try to make explanations out of
these allegations, and it is really difficult, and it's hard
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in taxing on the family. My family has been threatened,
and it's really it takes a lot to be in
public office and to have to endure.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
These personal attacks.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
But we try to do everything we can as a
family just to stay spiritually grounded and make sure that
you know, we focus in and our strength comes from
our love for God.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And our family and our friends.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
All Right, we're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones,
and we talked a little bit earlier about your record,
and you went into detail about a lot of the
big projects and things that you've done.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Let's drill a little bit on that and talk a little.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Bit about some of the times that you've worked closely
with seniors, women and vulnerable residents to address their needs specifically.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, we have done.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
One of the things I think is really important is
as a counselman, we have set up and we have
been thankful to have worked with creating lawn and care
programs for our senior citizens.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We assist them when they need assistants we need my office.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
We have worked with domestic bolence and awareness and education programs.
I have supported the Women's Commission of Cleveland. I am
often pagged to be a speaker and supporter of the
Women's March of Cleveland, and and we we really make
sure that we open ourselves.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Up to assisting in helping our our brothers and our
sisters in our community.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
And I'm appreciative to have a lot of great people
working to help us and we help them move our
community forward.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So we work with a number.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Of organizations and institutions over the years, especially programs dealing
with domestic violence and awareness.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Right right, So.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
With everything, if residents have concerns, how can they reach
you directly? Directly is being accessible to your constituents and
something that's important to you.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well, you know, I love my people so much that
you know, I publish my personal cell phone. My cell
phone is on all of my literature. Not only do
I have my.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Office phone, but I also have my cell phone there.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
And I make sure that I try to contact my
people back within twelve to twenty four hours that they
contact me. So they actually have direct assets to me
as it relates to their concerns and issues in the community.
And you call your life and safety residents even call
me at nighttime.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They come to my home.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I have if they have problems, I have a Ward
office where I'm completely accessible to them to walk in
with their issues and situations. And we work tireusly to
make sure that we give and we offer direct services
through all the sisions.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Of Ward one community. So let's talk a little bit
about moving forward.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We've addressed some of the things that have been said
in the allegations and so on. Let's talk a little
bit about the future. What is your vision for the
future if you're re elected, what's your plan for Ward
one and to ensure that War one gets its fair
share of resources. Attention, Well, we as you heard earlier,
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you know, the focus is rebuilding our community.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You know we have several multi million dollar projects in place.
We're building your homes.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
My goal is to continue to push for more investments
in our community, building more homes, getting more money to
fix up our infrastructure, our roads, and repair work in
our parks and our public places, in addition to programs
to help senior citizens and citizens in general to fix
and repair their homes, Programs that will assist our community
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to grow an age in place.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That is my goal.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
My goal is constantly to work to grind to make
sure that we have the kind of investments that we
see happening in other parts of the greater Cleveland area.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We're talking with Cleveland City Councilman Joe Jones, and as
we wind down here, for anybody listening who might have
questions or doubts, what's your message? What's your personal message
to them?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Right now well, I want the voters to remember the accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I want them to when they get ready to go
to the polls.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
I want them to understand that I have been blessed
and fortunate. God has allowed me to bring in over
three hundred and eighty million dollars into this to make
into this neighborhood. I want them to understand that there
is no other neighborhood in community that is giving away
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two thousand three ring video doorbells that we were able
to raise that money for, and it's for keeping our
community safe. And if God allows me the opportunity to
continue to serve his people, I'm going to continue to
get another two thousand ring door bells and another two
thousand ring door bells. I want to make sure that
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our entire community has cameras in it, even enter our businesses,
because what we have saw, they have resolved a number
of crimes and murders in our neighborhood. And so if
every one of our senior citizens have ring rebels, that
is the greatest block club, block watch that.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You could ever have. So I want them to remember
that I'm working hard for.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Them, and real quick before we close here, I want
to dig into that a little bit more because you
are one of the council people that I hear talk
a lot about safety and addressing the safety concerns of
your residents. Talk a little bit about why that's important
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to you, and also what you've heard from the residents
about their safety needs and what they want to see.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It is. You know, at the end of the day,
if you don't feel safe in your community, you're going
to lead.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
We want every scene, little citizen in our community to
feel safe.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That means that we should have.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
The required amount of police visibility and availability. That means
that we have to hold accountable our elected officials from
the mayor on down. That means that our citizens need
to get involved. We can no longer afford to ignore
issues and problems that are happening around us. And if
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we see something, we have to say something. And as
a lifelong resident of our Ward, someone who has raised
his family, I've been in this community, I'm committed to
advocating for the best community.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Safety is important to me.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I have been raised up as a child, I'm raising
my family and I think that at the end of
the day, we should be able to walk up and
down our sidewalks, go grocery shopping, come home from work,
and not have to worry.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
About a safety issue. So safety is paramount.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It is important I fight tireusly down on city Council
to make sure that the men and women of the
police department get everything that they ask for at the table.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And I've supported every safety.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Initiative that I could possibly be engaged and involved with.
And that's one of the reasons why again I hate
to keep saying it again, but that ring.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Door bell getting those installed in our.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Neighborhoods will absolutely marketably improve our safety plan and worldwide.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely a very big deal. And so
as we as we get ready to close here, I
feel for a lot of you know, the average person,
the average resident who doesn't really follow this stuff on
a regular basis, and they just hear so many different
things and there's so many things that are coming at
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them and they're just trying to figure out what's true
and what's not. So, in your view, what would you
recommend that voters can do to cut through the noise,
and you know people don't know what's true.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Well, voters should be able to pick up that phone
if they need or they have questions, not to jump
to conclusions. Step back, take a look at what you
have as it relates to the politics of things, and.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Look at the other candidates.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
There has been no other candidate in the history of
this neighborhood that has been fortunate to bring the kind
of funds as you talked.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
About, as you heard me talk about earlier to.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
This neighborhood in this community. So to cut through the noise, remember.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
The work that's done, Understand who's.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Doing the work, get involved, come through our community meetings,
be good neighbors because when residents do that, they truly
understand what's actually going on in the neighborhood and it's
one of the ways that they can cut through a
lot of the noise. Every month, I meil out to
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every single resident in this community a monthly meeting notice
talking about various different issues as subjects and programs that
will help them improve their homes, help them to get
tax relief, and a multi myriad of other issues and
services that we try to constantly and consistently bring to
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the voters. So just want them to remember when they
need to cut through that noise. Step back, take a
look at what you have.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Let everybody know if they want to get in contact
with you, if you have social media, your website, all
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes I do, I got I have Facebook.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
That's one of our prime areas that we that we're
focused on. We have other media outlets that we have.
The biggest way to communicate to us and our office
is the old way of emails, in addition to picking
up the phone and making the phone goll, that's the
fastest way you can get me. If you want your counselman,
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like yesterday, pick up the phone, give me a call.
I'm honored to have the opportunity to serve as your counselman.
And I'm appreciative of the fact that God has allowed
me the opportunity to serve. And as I serve, I
try to do everything I can to serve well with integrity.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
All Right, thank you so much for coming on the
show and spend us some time with this consul, and
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
I appreciate coming on your show, and this is my
first time. I want to be able to have another opportunity.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
As you, sir. Absolutely stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
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Speaker 4 (34:57):
All right, so yah, I got some stuff for y'all.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
This one's actually pretty funny. If you're brave enough to
do this, shout out to you. But like, I'm scared
to even go into the airport with a wire in
my brawl, let alone with this lady, did okay, because
you be setting off alarms and stuff. Okay, Now this
lady she is facing felony charges at the DC Airport
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after she tried to fly with fifty nine pounds of
marijuana to Europe to maximize her profits.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Girl, I mean a for effort, A for effort.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
But maybe if she would have like made the bag
not as heavy, she might have got she might have
got away with it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
She might have got away with us.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
She don't get on a forever. She get a da dummy, Like,
what the hell were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Like you on the airport?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Federal? Like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I guess so? I mean she she had packed pretty nicely.
I ain't gonna lie to you. She had a packed
pretty nicely.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It was flat, so did the pictures.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
They showed a picture. Listen, So how does she have
a pack?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Describe it all.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Right, So it's in this cute, this cute little hardback.
I just sent it to you, this hardback suitcase. And
on the inside, like the clothes they're like are clothes.
So the marijuana is like vacuum sealed inside of this bag.
And it just looked really nice and neat. I'm not
even gonna lie to you. She had a nice in
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neat whoever did it right? But it was just a
little too heavy.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
How stupid.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
So I said, send it to you. I sent it
to you on Instagram, Darby.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Okay, yeah, but that's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And here I am.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Listen, listen, I've matter of fact, DARVYO. I just listened
speaking at airport. Okay, listen, I had running I had
a run in with the airport and Florida, by the way, Orlando,
f y'all.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You always have one.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You always have a run in with the No they mama.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
They came from my mama, and that's where they messed
up that. And I was hungry.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh boy, so you were hungry too.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Hey listen, I went off on the TSA and I
went off on Homeland Security.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Oh my god, Yes I did.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yes, I did. They had it coming. Don't come from
my mama. Shut that big head man down too.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
He shut up?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Okay real quick? What did they do?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
So real quick? So you know how Okay?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
So here in Ohio, you know they when we get
our IDs, we had they start us off with the paper.
Well my mama she had the paper copy. Well they
was not happy with that in Orlando, but in Cleveland
they were like, I don't care, go ahead, go through.
So her other ID was expired, her hard copy I
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d because she did not get her new copy with
the star on it. Yet this man at TSA literally
screamed out loud to everybody in the airport her h's expired.
Her Hi, he's inspired, And I was just like, are
you freaking kidding me? Right now? He said, take her
over to the podium, take her over to the white podium.
(38:15):
And this kid that was pushing my mom in a wheelchair,
he was like so he looked scared. He was new
working there, and so he takes her over there and
the the TSA guy goes. He was like, he told me,
aren't you going to go through the metal detector? I said, now,
what the hell would I go through the metal detector?
And you send my elderly mother.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Over there to go get questioned, right, And he was like, oh, okay, whatever,
and like this some old lady in line was she
was all of her was oh wow, girls, shut up,
shut up.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
But yeah, so that ended up happening like it was
a lot more than that. But I went off on him.
And then with the Homeland Security they tell my mom
because you know, she has early onset dementia and she's
also elderly, and they told her, we're going to ask
you a sum of questions and if you don't have
the answers, you are not a lot of Google it
(39:14):
text anybody, call anybody. If you don't know the answers,
then we're gonna have to go a different route. I
start chuckling, Oh, I can't wait to go home, because listen,
I'm listening because you are already know what card.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
You know, you already know where I went. You already
know where I went.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But they moved it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Along pretty quickly. We did not miss her plane. But yeah,
it was that.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
That was I will I never ever ever want to
take Orlando Airport again ever again.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
It was it was horrible.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So so, ladies and gentlemen, we have had a and
some of you are new to this show, so you
may not know this, we have had a recurring theme
on this show. Dante myself both trying to keep Robin
out of jail.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I've never been in jail, you guys, I've never
I've never been arrested.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
And we're trying to make sure she doesn't get arrested.
And there this isn't the first time she's had an
incident at the airport before.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Man, because then people in the airport think they somebody listen,
they need to watch themselves. Yeah, listen, y'all, I'll tell
you what episodes to go back and listen, because then
people play in your face and they try to play
you like you you being arrested or something, or like
it's jail, like you some prisoner or something like they
do too much sometimes.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The last the last incident that she had, it was
it was bad. It was, it was bad, and I
was I was like, Lord, please don't go to jail.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Don't talking about the lady that was like got an
attitude and I got smart with her.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, you're talking about security TSA lady.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
The one you was about to fight.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
See seeing what I'm saying, Lad, she just said two
separate incidents in addition to the one that she's talking
about tonight.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
So the TSA lady last time she wanted to she
asked me about my daddy's It was his urn on
a necklace and she was like, but does that open?
I was like, yes, it opens. Is there anything? Yes,
there's something in it, and I ain't opening it.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
The girl.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
She was like, I didn't ask you to open it? Well,
why were you asking me those stupid questions?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Lord, pray pray for her, y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Make sure you.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Pray for them.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
They need they need, they need help. They just met
their match.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Go for the next story, This said.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Nah, all right, So the next story.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
This is crazy, you guys, so our childhood. Anybody that
grew up in the nineties two thousands. This is our childhood,
like we we lived for this. Okay, b E t
b ET suspends the Soul Train and the Hip Hop
(42:18):
Awards indefinitely.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Oh that hurts.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
That hurts because, like I don't know about you, DARVYO,
but like I grew up watching a lot of these awards,
the music awards, and so just knowing that like this
is like the end of an era.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah. I used to watch them religiously, like I would
live live, tweet them or live Facebook sometimes, like just
watch it religiously, and particularly.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
The Soul Train Awards.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
The Soule Train Awards was my favorite awards show that
anybody did period. Like I loved the Soul Train Awards.
I used to watch the BT hip Hop Awards. I
kind of fell out of love with the Hip Hop
Awards because you know, some of the music started being
whack and so that made the performances whax.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
So it wasn't fun to watch no more. But the
Soul Train Awards, man, that was man.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I will watch that, you know, every chance I had,
And it's unfortunate. I know, the CEO said that they
were looking at you know, re examining ways that they
can like new I forget exactly how you said it,
but like new ways that they could reimagine that's the
corporate word, reimagine what.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
It looks like in the future.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Maybe they put it on streaming or something like that,
but I hope they bring it back because I do
think that that is that's a definite blow to the
culture to not have that, especially.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The Soul Train Awards, Like the Soul Train Awards.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Is the last, you know, continual thing left from the
legacy of Soul Train. And there's a lot of us,
a lot of us who wouldn't be here if it
wasn't for what Don Cornelius did in the creation of
Soul Train, being the first, the first black man to
(44:26):
you know, have his name at the end of a
show as executive producer, to own the show, to own
the the trademark, to own the production.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Like all of that, there's all of.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Us me included are people who benefit to this day
from you know what, what Don Cornelius built in the
Soul Trained era. So the Soul Train Awards in particular,
like it's I think it sucks that both of them
are postponing, definitely, but particularly the Soul Train Awards. Like
(45:02):
that that sucks, That really sucks.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
That's all right.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
So the next one, this one is going to blow
a lot of people's minds. This is actually crazy. So
when I read this, I was like, dang, like that
baby would be almost like that would be like almost
our generation?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yes, would that be?
Speaker 4 (45:29):
So let's see.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
So a child has been born from an embryo frozen
in nineteen ninety four, making it the quote unquote oldest
baby ever.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Now, let me tell you what. Let me try me,
let me try to pronounce this baby's name.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Oh, Daddius dadeus.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I don't know. I don't know how to say it.
It sounds like some rich the prince's name. I don't
really know.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That is proud. That is that?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Okay? That is Daniel Pierce.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh yeah, that sounds like original name. Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
So it says the embryo was one of four created.
One became her daughter now thirty while hold on, wait
what while the others were frozen for over thirty years.
So the one she ended up having, right, But then
her siblings weren't born for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
So my question is like, so how old?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
First of all, how old is the baby, and then too,
like I wonder like if there's any physical impacts to that,
right because the baby is a baby, but the DNA
is from nineteen ninety four, so like I'm really curious
about Like I was soon A said I was born
(46:59):
A seven A ninety ninety one two three, I was
seven years old. So like this when you said, like, yeah,
that child the embryo was in our age group, it was,
he'd be if that baby was born in ninety four,
he'd be an older millennial right now.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Like he'd like completely skipped out on all the crap
that we had to endure, like all that everything, all
all thething in the history books.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
He was frozen thirty one.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I think maybe like thirty thirty one. So ah, man,
I don't know. I have so many questions, and I
definitely want to know, like physically what that means for
that baby.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You know what I'm saying, Like, oh my god, that's
just And then.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
Look it says his name Fatius peaked in popularity in
nineteen eighteen, ranking three hundred and seventh and was eight
hundred and fiftieth in twenty twenty four, giving it as
old fashioned charm.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
So you got an old baby with an old name.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Hey, but I'll tell you what, Darviio. That baby is
set for life. Oh he is going to be set
for life. You cannot tell me otherwise. I don't know
if he is or not.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
But just by his story, oh yeah, he gonna be
in headlines on the front covers.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
And yeah, and for something like that. His mama probably
ain't broke either. So did they have did a surrogate?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Uh? So?
Speaker 5 (48:31):
It says that it was conceived through IVF by Linda archerd.
The embryo was one of four blah blah blah, while
the others were frozen. After her divorce, Archer chose embryo adoption,
selecting Lindsey and Tim Pierrece, so she had the baby.
(48:54):
The transfer was overseen by doctor John Gordon at a
faith based fertility clinic.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
And that's really all it ever says. Wow, yeah, okay,
that's crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, you don't say that every day, that's for sure,
all right. I don't know how to follow you.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
Yes, follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley, Facebook
at Robin O'Malley and I'm actually like on TikTok a
lot too, so real, Robin O'Malley, and you.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Can follow me at DI to King Penn everywhere, or
like I like to say, every where, d T H.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
E K I N G p I N.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
All Right, we are out of here, See you next week.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
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