Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the FCB podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Great when the trunk.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Jaw boot change at dot dog.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
We don't listen to y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
This the hotel. We don't listen to y'all. This the hotel.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Make a scream out now like a sound dun because
the rockets in the crowds like a tune in the
charge for the Outdoor.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Tune in the charge for the Outlaw. Welcome to the Outlaws.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
This is Darvy or kingpenymar All alongside Robert O'Malley and
Dante bry don't forget too Like us on Facebook at Facebook,
dot com slash the Outlaws Radio, follow us on x
and Instagram at the Outlaws or Radio. We have a
very special guest that we're gonna get to in just
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
But first, Mith O'Malley, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm good. I guess good.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
I guess honestly, I think I'm getting over these the
results that has come in with everything, with all the voting, and.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Some I was happy with, some I was not.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
I ain't gonna say too much, but you know, I'm
gonna say too much.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But there's one particular I don't like. But anyway, but
I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, how are you, darby?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
My? You know, like you like to say, life be
life in so a lot of stuff, A lot of
stuff going on in my neck of the woods, a
lot of stuff going on. Speaking of the elections, though,
I do want to send a special shout out. There's
a lot of friends of mine that I knew on
(01:51):
the ballot and a lot of them were victorious. I
definitely want to send a special shout out though to
Cleveland Counselman Richard Starr, who's just a good dude and
a good councilman. His his ward is the area where
(02:12):
w ov U, our flagship station is at, and man,
I was just I was so happy to see uh
him be victorious this past Tuesday in the face of
all kinds of attacks against him and controversies and things
like that. So shout out to Consent Cleveland consul and
(02:37):
Richard Starr, congratulations on your election. And also another person
who had went through a lot who got reelected as
well was a Cleveland councilman, Joe Jones, So shout out
to Counselman Jones as well. Both consome Star and Counselmer
Jones have been on the show before, so you know, friend,
(03:01):
friends of mine, friends of the show. So shout out
to both of them. Even with all of the odds
and all the stuff that you know, they had to
go through because they both had, you know, pretty contentious races,
they both were able to succeed.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
So shout out to you both. Dante, how you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Doing, sir, Doing well?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Man?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It was an interesting election week for sure. I a
couple of people close to home actually ended up pulling
it off. That kind of got a little hairy for
like you said, a couple of races that were pretty contentious,
but the good guys pulled it off. So that was
you know, it was a good election. We got thought
(03:45):
interesting election week around the country. It's hard, though, man,
to really put a lot into off year politics nationally though, Man,
for multiple reasons. But it's been it's been a solid week,
I would say for myself personally. You know, just a
(04:10):
lot of stuff going on that you know that y'all
know about, that the rest of the world will know
about pretty soon. But yeah, man, just maintaining day by day,
yeah man.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, And we're gonna talk a little bit more about
an election outside of our jurisdiction in the Dante's Hot
Takes segment later on in the show. But first, we
have a very special interview speaking of the election with
someone who made history, and you'll hear about that right now.
(04:41):
All right, we have a very special guest on the
show today. She is a good friend of mine. She
just made history. She is now mayor elect of the
city of University Heights, Ohio, which is a suburb of Cleveland.
(05:02):
We'll talk about the history making part in just a second,
but first, Michelle Wise, welcome to the show, and congratulations.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Thank you Darvo, and I really appreciate this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Absolutely, So first talk about like what what were you thinking,
Like how did you feel as you saw the as
you saw the return started to come in and you
saw that you were going to.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Be elected as University Heights next mayor.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
It was a lot of emotions at once. You know,
you know me, I'm kind of humble. So we didn't
have a big watch party. I had kind of my
team that was helping me throughout the campaign, you know,
and other council members and people in the city that
I'm close with. Just we went to someone's house. I
bought everyone pizza and you know, snacks and stuff and
(05:54):
we were just waiting. But it was it was thankful.
It was thankfulness to the people who surrounded me, thankfulness
to God, but also just I just felt that this
is something so needed and I'm so happy that I'm
the one that's going to be able to do this
for the residents.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's fantastic. And yes, you definitely did not have a
watch party because I.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Was hoping you.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I was hoping you would because it would have been
a lot of fun and Kolsure.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Wine is amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But it's really good.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Speaking of which, you made history on election night.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You became the first Orthodox Jewish woman to be mayor
of what we believe, any city in the United States.
Talk about what that is, like, that is like you're
in the history books.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yeah, so it's again, you know, it's humbling, it's it's
it's gratifying. Also, you know, we are at a really
pivotal point in the country. I feel, you know, that
it's really divided, and I'm blessed with with the opportunity
(07:13):
to not have that happen in University Heights. I really,
I only care about the residents. I don't care what
party you're from. But in terms of you know, being
an Orthodox Jewish woman, it's it's such a special time
(07:33):
with the division to have a minority represent a community,
and I just I'm very thankful for that and thankful
for the people who elected me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
We're talking with Michelle Wise, who is a mayor elect
of University Heights, Ohio, a suburb of Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
And speaking of that, you know, you had.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
A very interesting and diverse coalition of people supporting you.
You're a Republican, but you had a lot of Democratic support.
You had obviously Orthodox Jewish support, but you also had
support from black folks and white folks, like the whole
(08:16):
spectrum of people that live in that city, particularly in
this time now, as you talked about, with such a division,
all the divisions that are taking place right now, how
were you able to build such a diverse coalition across
the spectrum.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
So one of my strength is a relationship building. And
anyone who gets to know me knows that I look
at you as a person. I don't care what party
you're from. I don't care what religion, I don't care
what race. I don't care you know what you do
behind closed doors. I care about you as a person,
and most of the week I meet are really good, honest,
(08:58):
you know, just humans. There's just the hate that's out there,
are those extremes. Most people are just good people. And again,
I think people realize that I really just care about them.
I don't care about all the noise in the background.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And you've been obviously you've been an elected official before.
I think this race for you probably was one of
the more contentious.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
How did you navigate that? How did you navigate.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The negativity, people taking shots at you and all of
the crap that you had to deal with as you
marched on to become an elected mayor.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
So I knew when I started this campaign, and it
was not an easy decision to make. This was not
something that I aspire to to be mayor. I honestly
just want to be a servant leader. I want to
give back the community. That's the reason I ran for council.
I thought counsel would be the end all the the
(10:09):
issues and the I guess trouble that the current mayor
has has made kind of prompted me to do that.
I felt that I was the right person to be
able to do it. And I again I knew when
I started this campaign, I was only going to be positive.
(10:29):
I was never going to go negative. I need to
be true to myself, true to my I have very
strong moral clarity. I had good people surrounding me that
you know, if I needed to vent, they would let
me vent and then bring me back down and you
know we would we would get back on track to
stay that positive, that positive road. So it was hard,
(10:53):
especially the last I would say four to five weeks
of the campaign. It was constant. I've never seen anything
like this in my life in a small city. I mean,
you know, we're a neighbor a bedroom community suburb in Cleveland.
This should not be happening. But I, you know, I
(11:16):
I tried to not listen to it. I tried to
ignore it. Obviously, I saw a lot of people sent
me things, but I really didn't react, and I think
that helped me. I think people realize that I, you know,
I didn't need to defend myself. Other people were defending
me all over. So I just I stayed positive, and
(11:42):
uh just I concentrated on God has a plan for me,
and if it, if it, and if it's not me,
or that's fine because better things are gonna are going
to be you know, down the line for me. But
I'm so happy that that this was the result.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We're talking with Michelle Weise, who is mayor elect of
the city of University Heights, a suburb of Cleveland. And
as you were on a campaign trail, especially now, like
you know, like what we've been talking about, as far
as like the divisions and everything, what were what was
the feedback you were getting from the voters from the residents,
(12:21):
like what was their temperature, like, what what were their concerns?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
What were you hearing from the voters.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
So it was interesting. So in the city of University Heights,
we are one point eight square miles. We have you know,
just under fifteen thousand people. But it's it's a really compact,
dense community and the way to win is you knocking
every door. And that's exactly what I did. I started
in July, I finished for the end of October. But
(12:52):
I met people, that's and you know, I met new people.
I've been you know, again, I've been on city council
for ten years, so I know a lot of the
community and have really met some wonderful people. But the
number one, which is it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Is that.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Please stop the bickering, Please stop the divisiveness. You know,
the best news is no, there's no news right Our
city has been in the news for all of the
wrong reasons. That was honestly the biggest concern. Then you
have what every city has. You have infrastructure, streets, sidewalks,
you know, our capital assets like our parks and our pools.
(13:34):
Everyone wants to make sure that our safety forces are
you know, are intact. But it was really it was
really the the the strife between city council and the mirror.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think and that sounds like the mood
of some of the electorate in general.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I think people just want to turn the temperature down now.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think people it seems like people just want to
get back to normal.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Is that some of the things that you were hearing
as well?
Speaker 7 (14:08):
People do, but the climate right now is so toxic.
We're nonpartisans community, so there's no hour D on the ballot,
and it was very apparent that people were only voting
D or R, which was sad. It never used to
(14:31):
be like that. I really believe the current mayor made it.
I believe what's happening in federal government also has trickled down, unfortunately,
but it doesn't have to be like that. I don't
think people really understand that. Yeah, I'm a registered Republican,
I'm moderate, but as you said, you know it wasn't
(14:56):
just the Jewish community that voted for me. I mean,
I had white, black, gay, straight It doesn't matter. When
you know me, you know that I want to do
good for you. I hope that that temperature lowers. I'm
going to try my hardest to make sure, at least
in my little small pocket in Ohio, that I can
(15:17):
do that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And on that note, obviously you're you're starting to get
some headlines because you're you're you've made history, so you're
starting to get some national news here, which I am
as a friend of yours, I am incredibly excited about.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I love seeing people cover this.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
But because of that, what lessons do you think other
folks and either party can take from what you were
able to do? Because you were able to bring in
a coalition of people who didn't care about your party.
I saw public, prominent known Democrats openly supporting you. What
(16:06):
lessons can other people around the country take from what
you were able to do?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
What can they take from that.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
So I really feel that if you could get people
to just sit around the table and respect each other,
you can get things done. You have to compromise. No
one is going to get everything that they want, but
if you and you could respectfully disagree to but you
need to sit down and talk to each other, and
you need to be civil to each other. This was,
(16:35):
you know, I've this is my fourth election. I've run
three times for city council and obviously now is mayor.
This was the first time ever I've gotten doors slammed
in my face and that's not okay. People have to
come back and remember their humanity. But I really think
(16:58):
that it can happen, and I hope that University Heights
could be that change agent.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So in the meantime, let's talk a little bit about
Since you're mayor, Alec, let's talk a little bit about
your vision. What are some of the things you want
to do in University Heights.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
So right now we have a lot of challenges. We
have one of the big things and it's listen, we're
a small city, but these things are important. We just
received a new street assessment. There hasn't been one done
in twenty or twenty five years, and our roads are
much worse than we thought. We were spending about a
million dollars of roads a year. We need to probably
(17:35):
double it. So we really have to concentrate on how
we can manage our resources efficiently. That means taking a
really hard look at our budget and prioritizing our needs.
We have facilities that are beyond aging. At this point.
We have trouble recruiting policemen and fire policemployees and fire
(18:00):
employees because there's the facilities are so inadequate. Those are
That's something else that we need to get done. It's
started already, but it's kind of stalled. So municipal facilities,
excuse me, streets and sidewalks, and you know, we have
(18:21):
an opportunity right now. We're a college town. We have
John Carroll here and they are making some major capital
investment into their into their university, and they're zoning opportunities
now that we can take a look, you know, five
ten years down the line, start making plans and seeing
how we can reinvent Warrensville and Cedar roads for our
(18:45):
residents to help agent place. There's there's very few one
floor homes and university heights and people want to excuse me,
people want to stay here but they can't. So we
want to make that happen, and we need to figure
out new revenue streams. I also think one other thing
that I did want to mention is regionalism. Every community
(19:12):
he has has scarce resources at this point, and there
is this is an opportune time to collaborate with our
neighboring cities.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And one more thing that I wanted to touch on
that this is a point of personal privilege for.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Me because like, I have a rooting interest in this.
So I want to know what your vision is.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So you have a you have a development called University Square.
I know about it because I'm a I'm a Macy's
Guid's where I go.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Get my Colonne at so.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Many around anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Right exactly, you know, and so like I like, I'm
still like I'm one of those guys. I like going
in to get it because like when I when my
grandmother was alive and I was a little kid, she
used to love going to the mall and going to
the department store.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So I picked it up. So I go to Macy's
and go get my cologne.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So I know that the development has had some issues,
kind of falling on hard times.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
What's your vision for University Square?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
So, actually, right now we have a developer, which is great.
They renamed it Bell Tower for that Macy's Bell or
the actually you know main company. If anyone is old
enough to remember that, there's a big belt in front
of the building. But they just started. They're peeling back,
which means they're demolishing seventy five feet of that garage.
(20:40):
That's happening right now. Then they should be pulling permits
in twenty twenty six to start building two hundred apartment
units and Urban Air is opening in January where the
old tops was, if anyone is familiar with that, so
slowly but surely, we really hope that, you know, it
(21:01):
comes to fruition. But that's the developer's plan and Target
and the city have invested their personal funds as well
into this project, so it has a bright future.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Fantastic. Now, I'm not gonna lose my Macy's.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Right Listen, You're not losing Macy's. Macy's on their own building.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So unless they close.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
They're good, okay, good, good, good, All right, let everybody
know how to keep.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Up with what you have going on. Is social media
all of that good stuff.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Yeah, thank you. So you know, obviously a lot of
people are in tunes of social media, So Vice Mayor
Michelle Weis City of the University Heights is my is
my Facebook profile and then you know that connects to
Instagram and Twitter or x as well. But you know,
I everyone can also contact me personally, so you have
(22:01):
you go on the City of University Heights web page.
My emails on there, and I would love to speak
to anybody. People know, I get back to them and
I'm really happy to connect.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Thank you so much for coming on the show and
spend some time with us. Congratulations once again. And I'm
really glad because the first time that you were on
the show it was in the aftermath of about Toober seventh,
so I'm glad that we were able to talk about
something happy for a chain.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
So congratulations again.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, and thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
W absolutely all right, stay tuned, We have more to
come here on the Outlaws.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Tell Alexa to play the Outlaws radio show.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Here it is from my Heart Radio.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, this is Chris Gotti and you listen to the
number one radio show, The Outlaws.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
You heard me, ADVNS music supports, Chris Gotti Cook check
him out, real talk, real conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
We got the heat. Give me hell yeah. This is
the Outlaws Radio Show.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Welcome back, Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You listen to the Outlaws, And now's the time to
show that we like to call it Tea Time with Row.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Turn it up with see out the Confectation, the latest
celebrity news and gossip explation. It's Tea Time with Row
on the Outlaws Radio Show.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
All right, So first, I am going.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
To talk about a school that is being opened by
Cardi B. So Cardi B shocks America, Okay, In a
move that no one saw coming and honestly probably nobody's
ever even thought to do, Cardi B has signed a
(23:56):
historic one hundred and seventy five million dollars deal to
build the nation's first ever boarding school for orphans and
homeless students.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It is set to open.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
In Chicago, and the project is called Bella Calis. If
I say her name right, don't come for me all
the Cardi B fans. It's called Bella Calis Academy of Hope.
It will provide like the housing education mentorship for children
who've lost everything. It's about giving kids love and stability
(24:32):
that she when she was growing.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Up that she never received. And I love that. I
really love that.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Personally, you know, Darvo, I don't know if you guys
even remember me even talking about something similar, like if I,
you know, the day that I, you know, become successful,
that's you know, to house the homeless and do things
of that sort that a lot of people don't care
to do, they don't.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Pay attention to.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
And the children is something that people they'll think about
and they'll be like, oh, our children, you know, protect
our children or do this, but nobody has ever thought
to do something like this. So I just you know,
shout out to her, you know, especially coming from where
she comes from, and you know she gets she gets
(25:18):
a lot of crap from people, you know, from her
background of who she was before becoming famous and her personality.
People often try to tear her down, you know, knock
her down, say bad things about her.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But you can't knock this, can't knock it. So congratulations to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Her, right, congratulations absolutely. I think they missed the opportunity
though by not calling it O Kerr University. But no,
I think that's I think that's dope.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I love that idea, Like, that's that's incredible, Dante your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I was to say I wasn't familiar with this.
Who uh like, whose idea was this? Like where you
said she's trying to deal with my I just wondered, like,
where did this all come from? Who's like where did
this start from? Who's where is Who's fund is she built?
Like funding this?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So I'm not really sure. I have not seen any
any more of that. I just yes say, I just.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Happened to run across it and I was like, oh,
well that's pretty cool. So yeah, I mean I have
to do a little more digging and to see who
you know, who's funding it or if it's her or
you know it's you.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Know, to see who's it, who it belongs to.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, because that's I mean, that's just a that's just
a pretty cool project.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, No, that's that's dope.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Next next, So.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
A lot of people have been complaining about this very topic,
I mean especially artists.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know, First, let me say this.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
You know, how you guys go, how we go on
social media and everything is ai everything you're like is
this real?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Is this video real?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Is this?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Is it AI? Everything is AI?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
It is taking over everything, especially the music industry. And
Jermaine dupri who happens to be in the music industry,
had something to say about it.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He said, so, let me get this right.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Years ago, the industry found out that Milli Vanilli weren't
really the voices on their Grammy winning record, and they
were stripped of their Grammy. But now we're getting ready
to accept people who can't even sing creating songs for
a fake person. How is this any different than Milli Vanilli?
(27:57):
And he's not wrong, He's not wrong.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
You know. The interesting thing is he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I mean, if anybody who remembers or read about what
happened with that, like that ruined Millie even he's life
and one of the minute of the committed suicide, years
literally years on the line.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
It's I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I don't like the the AI singer. I think it
bastardizes the priv like the creative process. I'm not anti AI.
I do have some concerns about what it's going to
do to wreck our entire economy, and I don't think
none of.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Us are prepared for it, But overall, like, I'm not
anti I'm not anti AI.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't like stuff like this though, Like I don't
think that this is I don't think it's good for society.
I don't think it's good for the industry. I'm just
I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. Donte your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Isn't it crazy how years go down the line and
you could almost kind of have empathy for Millie Vanilli
right that that part always just kind of baffled me.
Where I'm just like, dang they went from like public
enemy number one to much later. You like, dang Man,
(29:31):
wasn't really that deep in a way. I mean it
kind of was. Yeah, I sort of feel bad for them,
and I you know, I don't know, Man, This AI
space is interesting because we're going to see this in
a lot of We're gonna see a lot of things
happen with a lot of creatives, maybe cheating or I mean,
(29:57):
you know, you can write a movie, scriple chat GPG, right,
you can not, you can write songs, you can do
everything pretty much. So that's where we are now, and
I'm I'm of the belief that this is really just
the beginning because we haven't really tapped into complete machine
learning and what we would call artificial intelligence. A lot
(30:19):
of this, man is just like you know, basic, Like
a lot of what we have right now that we're
calling AI is not even machine learning or artificial intelligence.
A lot of it is what's the word I'm thinking about?
A lot a lot of this is just tools and learning.
So like, if you can write code, you can create
(30:43):
a program that can learn a language and do X,
y and z. What's gonna happen in ten years were
gonna you know what I'm saying, Like, this is what
we consider to be AI now is going to be
way deeper and way more advance. So I have no
idea how far this is. I mean, I'm kind of nervous.
(31:04):
I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like you can
think about I mean, are we going to have created
movies in the next ten years or or is it
possible that they potentially get better as this type of stuff?
You know what I'm saying, Like what happens if music
gets better? Because everything that we like as humans, a
computer is programmed to tap into that and make it,
(31:28):
you know what I'm saying, and make everything that we
like even better, who knows, or maybe it's a thousand
times worse, because you know, we can tell this is
you know, this was made.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It takes a human element away from it. And that's that.
That's the thing that I'm concerned about with AI in general.
Like we could we could have a whole segment about
that by itself, but like we you know, I'm concerned
we're gonna be living in like I robot, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I was gonna say as possible, But I also think that,
you know, the human element can never go away because
somebody has to build and program.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
The machine, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
But you know, there are some spaces that believe that,
you know, like we could be you know, the people
that are doing that would be the only people that
are left to be that are useful, you know what
I'm saying. So who knows? Man, Like, you know, there
are some there's some school of thought out there that
(32:25):
believe that is just complete bubble and that it's gonna pop,
you know, just like the dot com or you know,
things like you know, we get one of these and
once a century, twice a century. I don't necessarily buy.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That, though I don't either. I don't either, because AI
makes things. And again, like I'm saying, I'm not I'm
not anti AI, Like I'm supportive of AI if it's
done properly and done you know, to aid humans and
not replace them. But AI just is too helpful to
certain tasks for it to be a bubble.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I don't buy that either. I don't buy that at all.
Like I think this stuff is here to stay. We
have only just begun to see the beginning, like we're
we're at like the top of the second inning with
this stuff, you know what I mean. Like this stuff
hasn't even really like to Dante's point, this stuff hasn't
even really fully integrated itself into the economy yet.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And I don't think anybody's really ready.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
To have a conversation about what that really looks like
because they don't look good.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Go ahead, Robin, just.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Say you know what.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Also, I was just thinking about it, so as many
people and many of you know, you guys know, I
don't know our listeners. I hope they know, but you know,
I do modeling. I've done modeling, you know. And so
a lot of models now are being replaced with AI,
and they're talking about like they like I see like
(33:53):
these posts, these videos and.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
A lot.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
There are some certain casting agencies that are like trying
to promote it where they try to get you to
sign up to have your own AI. And it's like,
don't that kind of take away from the art, that
take away from you know, the whole passion in it,
Like why would I why would I want to do that?
(34:21):
So it's yeah, it's in music, it is in modeling,
I mean acting. I mean I'm sure like there's in everything.
And you know, really take a second to think about this.
When we was growing up and we did not reach
the millennium year yet, and we were talking about it
everybody with all the kids, everybody's talking about it flying
(34:43):
cars and you know, once we reach the millennium, there's
gonna be flying cars, there's gonna be all kinds of
different things. And we were so excited about it, but
not look now, we're like, okay, what's what's where's this going?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Where's this going? I mean, we didn't think this like
it's cool.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Yeah, like yeah, let me first and foremost. Yes, I
am a chat GPT girl. Okay, I am and am
Like you can get some great advice. But yeah, I
mean that's it's pretty scary.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It's definitely pretty scary.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Like if you think about it with the music, you
know how some people or some songs, they if it's
played a certain way, it can play in a demonic
kind of way. You know, like with AI it's it's
a robot. What if it plays backwards? What if it
plays some demonic type of sound or you don't even
(35:44):
realize that it is, Like it's just that's the whole
time you guys are talking, this is what's going through
my head. And I'm like that would be crazy, Like
even though us humans are the ones that's building it,
we're the ones that's creating it, but he's gonna turn
on and bite.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You in then yeah, it would be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
No, I'm very very concerned.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So we get Like I said, we could do a
whole and maybe we do need to because I don't
think enough people having having these conversations. Maybe on the
next on another show, we need to have like a
full AI conversation because I don't even think people are
aware of what this is gonna do to the nature
of work.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
But this is gonna do.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It's gonna impact everybody's you know, industries and stuff like that.
So but we'll get to that at a later date.
But before we close this segment, Robin, I did want
to add something to tea time because it was huge.
It was taken over the internet. Today they released lions
(36:44):
Gate and Universe Will released the trailer to the Michael
Jackson biopic and it is.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Going through the roof.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Jaafar Jackson was Michael's nephew is the one playing him
in the movie. And Deadline Hollywood says that the Michael
teaser delivers thirty million views in the first six hours
in trailer. Yeah incredible, Wow, No, it looks it looks
(37:22):
really good. And I said today, I meant they put
it out the trailer. They put the trailer out yesterday
and within the first six hours, thirty million views.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know, I was like three of those thirty six Yeah, man, I.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Did not see it.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I did see it. Oh man, I watched that thing
like five times.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I did see, you know comments.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I forgot that I've seen this earlier, so on like
a post on social media earlier. I seen in the
comments and literally everybody all the way down in the
comments and they were talking about quote unquote Michael Jackson's nose,
but not you know, his nephew who's playing. How they
created it with the makeup.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, like a prosthetic.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And they were like, no, why would you do that
to Michael? Why would you make his nose look like that?
Speaker 5 (38:13):
I will say this.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I saw this tweet and I shared it because it's
absolutely true. It said, let me give the credit. It's
from big Hollywood. At Chef Waite's w A I t
e s. He said, if they thought Black People was
doing too much at the Black Panther premiere, wait till
(38:35):
that Mike jack movie.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Man doing the.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Move walk and all man.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Listen, that movie is gonna Somebody said that movie is
gonna make a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I'm excited to take my kids. I mean, my daughter
probably more so, but that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I'm definitely going so shout out to the producers for
finally getting this thing out.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It drops April.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Hold on, let me look at the date.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
April twenty fourth, twenty twenty six. That's when it comes out.
So we'll be looking forward to that. We'll probably be
at the theater watching it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
All right, Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
We have Dante's autes coming up next here on the Outlaws.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yo, what's up? Bring the noise right here, Chuck the
Republic Enemy number one.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
You are tuning the Outlaws Radio show. Fuck up true, sir,
out pray O. Welcome back and listening to the Outlaws.
(39:51):
Make sure that you subscribe to the show one Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart,
or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you listen
to this show on Apple, please make sure you leave
us a five star review and a comment is very
important for the algorithm and for those of you that
are already done.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
So thank you, oh so very much.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And now's the time of the show that we like
to call Dante's hot takes.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Whether you like it or not, It's Dante's Hot Takes
on the out Lawns Radio show. All right.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, like we talked about earlier in the show, it
election day is coming gone and New York City obviously
took up most of the headlines with electing Zoron Mondani,
and of course with it being New York and with
(40:47):
him being a socialist and a Muslim with big ideas
of wealth redistribution and you know, all the New York
City talking points. It has become a major, a major
(41:08):
story in the country, right. You know, obviously President Trump
does not miss an opportunity to insert himself into national headlines,
so he has of going at it with with Mundani.
And it became pretty obvious the last few weeks of
this race that you know, he was gonna pull away.
It seemed to be pretty clear once he won the
(41:30):
the became the nominee after beating Cuomo in the primary,
that he would probably win with the skeletons in Eric
Adams closet. So, I mean, you know, obviously there was
outrage yesterday and celebration but or not yesterday, but you know,
on Tuesday. But to me, I didn't bother engrossing myself
(41:59):
into that race because I live in a city in
Lake County, Ohio, and New York City politics is just
not my thing because I don't live in New York.
And I would encourage people who don't live in New
York but who actively have been engrossed with that race
(42:23):
to be as engrossed in your own local elections because
New York City politics really isn't that big of a deal.
Because New York City politicians usually are not national political
Bellweathers So, and what I mean by that is, when
(42:46):
is the last time a New York City mayor actually
got any sort of traction outside of the city. Rudy
Giuliani was apparently was supposedly America's mayor. No traction, Bloomberg,
no traction nationally. It's the same thing in California. This
is why I continually tell people that Newsome is not
(43:13):
going to be the nominee in twenty twenty eight for Democrats,
that it's not going to happen. You know, someone told
the joke the other day to me and was like, yeah,
I mean, Newsome as a California politician, what is he
going to do? Run on affordability? You can't even do
that in California. So, you know, I think that if
(43:38):
New Yorkers want to nominate a Muslim socialist, go for it.
It's your city, Do what you want to do. But
and I understand why it's a big story. It's the
most important city in the you know, or the biggest
city in the most financial, I lucrative city in our union.
(43:58):
So sure, go, I mean, get grab all the headlines.
But I don't think that you know people in Ohio,
or people in Iowa, or the people in Kentucky that
the Attorney General had to tell that they can't vote
in that election. I think they should calm down. But
that's just my take.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
So under normal circumstances, as someone who is very against
the whole New York and California are the center of
the universe talk under normal circumstances, I would agree with you.
I do think this is a unique situation, not because
he's a Muslim, but because he's a socialist. New York
(44:42):
City is still, for now at least the economic capital,
the financial capital of the United States, and I don't
think it's a good look for the financial capital of
the United States to be governed learned by a socialist.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I know there's people who may listen to this and
may not like what I'm saying, but hey, I'm just
keep it a book. I'm a capitalist, I'm not a socialist.
I don't think it's a good idea for a socialist
to be in charge of the nation's the home of
the nation's financial and economic power. I do agree as
(45:26):
far as like the individual politicians, whether they translate over
or not, they usually don't because in California and New
York they're so blue that you're never really challenged, so
that makes it harder to translate on a national level.
So I do agree with you there, but I do
(45:48):
think that it's a problem in terms of having the
nation's financial capital ran by socialists. I do also think
that I know, I know Democrats are concerned about this.
We'll see how successful it is in twenty twenty six,
because Republicans have their own problems. But I do know
that Democrats are concerned with Mamdani being the mayor elect
(46:12):
of New York because they know that Republicans are going
to use that in attack ads against every Democrat in
the country. Like you know, there's gonna be some Democrat
running for office in Des Moines, Iowa, and it's going
to have to address something that zoraon mam Donnie has
done or said in New York, you know what I mean.
(46:34):
So I do know that Democrats are concerned about that.
Like I said, how effective that line of attack is
because Republicans are definitely going to do that, But how
effective the line of attack is I don't know, because,
like I said, Republicans got their own issues. And if
they don't, if they don't fix this economy by the
time people are voting next year, they're going to get
wiped out no matter what. So because I think ultimately
(46:56):
the most important thing is the economy and affordability. People
still feel like things are too expensive, People still feel
like they can't afford basic necessities anymore. People still are
concerned about the price of food, the price of gas,
the price to close, the price of insurance, the price
of all sorts of things. So I think in twenty
(47:17):
twenty six, if the Republicans don't fix that before people
start voting, you know, Democrats are going to win in
a route anyway, no matter what. But regardless, you know,
I do know that they're concerned about it. You know,
Republicans making Mom Donnie the poster child for the Democratic
Party nationwide, and you know they're going to do that.
(47:38):
So we'll see if that's successful or not. But ultimately,
I do think it is concerning that the financial capital
of the country is controlled by a socialists. That's where
that's where I come down on it, sir.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
In a way, yes, but also let's just be this,
he's not He's He'll find out really quickly how the
game goes when it comes to you know, Wall Street
private equity. You can have big ideas, but you know
(48:17):
you're gonna have to play ball man otherwise this isn't
you know, this just isn't gonna go well. Right as
a lateral powers you know that, you know, I just
don't put it to you this way. Markets that big
do not get brought down by a bad captain over
(48:39):
a four year stretch. Right. It just the machine is
just too big, And while he may be a very
important cog in it, it's not, Uh, he's not. He
won't if you think he's gonna do damage, he won't
be able to do enough. And for the people who
believe that he will do great things, the chances of
(49:05):
all of the ideas that you love about him being
implemented it also probably not likely. What I think actually
happens is I think Democrats learned to tolerate him, And
we know that they were, you know, HAKEM. Jeffers didn't
endorse him for a long time until, like I said,
(49:26):
it became just blatantly obvious that okay, we're stuck with
this guy. He's actually gonna you know, you know, they
they finally got on board because they knew this is inevitable.
But so obviously they're not as big as fans or supporters.
But you know, these movements for and by the people,
(49:51):
when the machine is this big, it just doesn't It
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
So you saying that the system, you believe this to itself,
is going to be a check on him.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Correct? Correct, I would be stunned if it wasn't. I'm
stunned if it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (50:14):
Well, it's something interesting to see. We're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
It's gonna be fantastic theater. Especially again because like I said,
I live in the city in Lake County, Ohio, So
I mean, good good luck, my dog. I mean, I
hope you make the lives of New York people in
New York City and and and the boroughs better for them,
(50:36):
because I still do have family in the city. So
you know, I hope you make I hope you make
life life the the thriving metropolis. You all you.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
Promise, Yeah, we'll see about that. Let him know how
to follow you.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at take bra b
r y E.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
Miss o'mall.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
You can follow me on Instagram at real Robin O'Malley
and Facebook at Robin O'Malley and.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You can follow me at DDA King Pen Area where
that's d t h E K I n G p
I M. One more time, shout out to Mayor Elect
Michelle Wiss for coming on the show.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
We really appreciate it. We are out of here. We'll
see next week.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
This was produced by f CV