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November 14, 2025 52 mins
On today's episode, the team talks about the viral story of a Black woman who was kicked out of Gold's gym after a confrontation with a man in the woman's locker room.
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things to discuss, but first, Dantelle, you how you doing, sir?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I am doing very well.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
It was a fast moving week, which I appreciate, right.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Uh yeah, it.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Seemed like we just looked up and boom Thursday evening Friday,
you know, so happy for the end of another week.
But it do seem like man, I will say this.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Two things pissed about daylight savings.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Cannot stand waking up in the morning, going to work
in the dark, and then coming home in the dark.
It's gotta stop. And then I complain about it every year.
So I hope our audience is not like, but you
live in Cleveland. We got our first snow this year.
We did which wasn't that bad. It wasn't But again,

(01:38):
people in Cleveland, like, you've seen it before when you're driving,
do this every year. It snow's here every year. We've
been here thirty, forty, fifty, sixty years. I don't know
why people act like they don't know how to drive
when they see snow when they just did it six
months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
We need to be better.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Cleveland, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So one, you know the thing about daylight savings, I love.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
The extra hour. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, we lose it, we lose the sunlight, but man,
I love that extra hour.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
We get an extra hour once one time, like one
night we get an extra hour sleep, but for six
months we live in the dark. I trade that extra
hour for some sunlight.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I like when I get readjusted to this clock here.
The other thing is that, yeah, the snow, it.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Wasn't too bad.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
No, it was cold, dump it.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah it got real cold, and it's funny.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Man. I was in Lake.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
County over the weekend over this past weekend for an event,
and Lake County is a beautiful like it's a beautiful county.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But man, when the snow hit, it hit, and people
don't know how to drive.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
And you know, that's my theory when it comes to
you know, drivers in Cleveland, It's like, why do y'all
do this every year? Y'all pretend like we don't we
we haven't seen snow before, when in fact, we see
it every every six months it snows here.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Man, they either drive too fast or too slow, get reckless,
like it's just it's it's crazy. I don't understand why
we keep having these problems every single time that first
people from for people listening who learn from Cleveland, R

(03:46):
and N Cleveland, that first snow is always a problem.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Like people always act like they don't know how to
drive on that first snow. And I don't understand. Robin,
how are you?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I I'm good. I'm good. You know, just kind of
just been getting ready for the holiday season and getting
everything together. You know what, I was just thinking about
how you guys were just talking about the snow and everything.
I literally just said this yesterday. I'm driving and go
to take my niece to the store. She's out in

(04:21):
uh where I don't even though people that don't live
here don't know. It's Garfield Heights. And I was coming
off of the freeway and I don't know how these
people manage this. But there was two cars. Okay, they
were on the on ramp. They weren't even on the
freeway yet. Okay. The one car was upside down in

(04:44):
the middle of the on ramp, like literally, and I'm like,
I want to know how. And I look over and
it's to the the other car it was missed, like
the whole front end was smashed. But the two it
was two young dudes, young dudes. And I'm like, you
know what, And they say women can't.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Drive a.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, no, it'd be every time I look over, I
bet you it's a dude. It's either a dude or
an elderly person. And it's always usually the dude.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Here's here's the thing, and we're about to go in
the rabbit hole.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
So I'm gonna make this very quick, very brief.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay, young dudes like twenties.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Okay, yeah, yeah, Well, and don't come at me for
people listening.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
But here's the thing. I've noticed this.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So you know, when they talk about like women can't
drive or whatever. I don't believe that all women can drive,
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Them can, but I think that there's I think that
there's a difference when women do like crazy things behind
the wheel.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
They make stupid decisions.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Men make reckless decisions.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
You can give you that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'll give you that, like, hey, let's rice, my car
can go faster than yours.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, right too.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
That's two things that like two women have never said, hey,
let's race before and no, that's definitely. Let twenty six
have said that to each other thousands of times, but like.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Two women, because you know, women are.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
For the most part, you know, young women are generally
smarter than young men. So two women have never just
been like, let's race.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Hey, let's right now.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
But they will do stuff like I saw this chick.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
And we're all guilty of texting and driving.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
We shouldn't do it. We all know we shouldn't do it,
but everybody does it. But I saw this one, this
one woman I just happened to be looking like next
she was next to me in the next lane. She
was driving for like multiple minutes, looking completely down.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
She wasn't even doing like the whole you know, you
glance at your phone.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
And then look back up. She wasn't even do it
that Like, she.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Was just looking straight down at her.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Phone for like a whole two two and a half minutes.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I'm like, Yo, this is dangerous.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
What the heck?

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Man?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
She was looking straight down, she didn't even dry. I'm like, girl,
don't you know you drive.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So so that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like women, bad women drivers would do stupid stuff, you right.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Men drivers would do reckless stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
True, true, But this time I don't know who was
the person.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I didn't see the person in the car that was
slipped upside down. Hopefully that they were okay, But yeah,
the two the other car with that was had the
smush front end was definitely two young dudes, probably like
from eighteen to maybe like I don't know, twenty two.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
And I hate to say this, and of course, you know,
in the scent until proven guilty, but my first instinct
is like, oh, they probably stole it.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like I hate that, I think like that right away.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
But a lot of times when we see these cars
flipped upside down going a hunting and fifty down the
residence and dole it.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
What kind of do you remember what kind of car
it was?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It was nice?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I wondered, like if it was a Kyo or a Hundaid,
then we know what it was.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, I don't know what kind of car was. I
know it was nice. It was a red car, that's
all I know. It was real nice though it was,
it was a nice it was in good shape.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I'm a I ain't gonna judge nobody, but I
have my suspicions.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
You you might be right or they was like either
a that or b mine was so is somebody who
people be trying to bully me, And I'd be like,
you can't bully me. I slowed down and break check you.
I need a new car. But my thought was, well,
they could have potentially been those guys could have been

(09:00):
driving extremely fast, probably getting you know, irritable, trying to
go around the other car, trying to speed past them.
The other are the other ones. They were probably trying
to raise each other onto the on ramp onto the freeway,
which is also a possibility.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
But Clevelanders. They do be driving crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
The first thought I thought was, man, y'all driving like
we some Floridians over here.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Y'all y'all remember like the way that Florida draw.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'm gonna just say something, and I'm gonna I'm not
gonna say something because I don't want us to get
in trouble. But since we brought in other states, there
are specific and certain demographics when it comes to driving
that make me nervous every time. If you're driving out
of state, or if you listen from out of state

(09:53):
and you see a car accident, you know who's in
that car?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Wanna say?

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I know we're gonna move right, but.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Details we'll talk to I know.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I ain't messing with you, man, I don't messing with you.
We are like we ain't even been owned in drive times.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
I said, I'm not even gonna say. I'm not even
gonna say anything specific or more than that. But since
y'all went to the opposite, you know, out of state,
there are certain situations that make me more and it
ain't and let me just put out it ain't a
blanket of just you know, women or men.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
No no, a little more specific than that, but we
can move on from there.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, we're gonna move on from there.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I don't know if this first story is going to
be any safer than what you just said.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
What you just said was very dangerous.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
But ah, let's give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
So From the New York Post, singer claims transgender woman
who beat ex wife to a pulp preyed on her
for days in a woman's.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Locker room like a bedroom bully.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
From the article, the transgender wife beater who allegedly exposed
their genitals in the woman's locker room left Jim Goers
humiliated and is no woman at all, says the musician
who went viral confronting them. Not with that big D word,
you ain't said. Grammy nominated musician Tish Hyman, Himen and

(11:39):
out lesbian who moved to Los Angeles in twenty ten
to pursue her music career, posted a video Sunday of
a screaming match she had with transgender woman Alexis Black
at a Beverly Hills Golds gym, which was recently bought
by the rapidly expanding Eos Fitness. Black was sentenced to
one year in an Ohio prison in twenty twenty two,

(12:03):
after pleading guilty to savagely beating his then wife and
breaking her jaw so badly that she was rushed to
the hospital for surgery.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
The thirty one.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Year old, whose name at the time was Kyle Grant Freeman,
also had a lengthy rap sheet that included a previous
domestic violence charge, as well as convictions of drug trafficking
and resisting arrests, all in Ohio. Disturbingly, when Black Quote
transitioned earlier this year, they choose to use their ex

(12:34):
wife and victim's first name. Alexis Himen, forty two, said
she began working out at Gold's Gym two years ago
when she was one hundred pounds overweight and loved the
gym and the community of women.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Who worked there. She said her issues with Black began.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Hold on the pages jumping.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
She said her issues with Black began when she had
requested the transperson leave the Women's Life locker room after
she felt them menacing, menacingly.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Lurking over her as she got undressed.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I'm traumatized, I've been disrespected. I'm naked in front of men.
I haven't been naked in front of men in thirty years,
she told the post, I'm a lesbian, she said. The
transperson who was in the process of transitioning, who is
in the process of transitioning but still has mel genitalia,
allegedly responded by calling her a B word. I'm looking
at this whole huge thing, and I'm like, what the

(13:29):
heck is going on? Hymen recalled. The Bronx native and
Jim Ratt decided to start working out at the Beverly
Center location to avoid running into Black again. She wasn't
so lucky. The following day, while lounging in the sauna
and discussing the harrowing incident with a twenty seven year
old woman, Black allegedly barged in, like a bedroom bully.

(13:49):
You're talking about me, B word, they said. According to Hymen,
she said she and Black proceeded to scream at each
other until the staff came in to separate them, and
she and the woman she was with with each foul
reports about the incident. This is the day, he said
to me. Straight women like to see D word in
the locker room, so if anything, they're looking at me

(14:10):
more than they're looking at you. Hymen said, I couldn't
believe that no woman could ever say something like this.
Himon added that the GEM did nothing to address Black's
troubling behavior, with GEM staff claiming that they were required
by law to let them use the women's locker room.
California law says that businesses cannot deny anyone full and

(14:30):
equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services because of their sex, gender,
gender identity, or gender expression. Himon said she then began
trying to get the word out about Black's behavior and
was telling as many women in the gym at the
gym as she could about the alarming situation.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
She in.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Black had another postsona confrontation that required staff intervention, prompting
her to post a video of the wife beater inside
the women's locker room on her Instagram October twenty six.
It's the worst to be naked in front of a
man calling you a B word, hymen, said, her voice crackling.
The song stress now feared Black would beat the living
S word out of her and was nervous to show

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her face at the gym she once enjoyed going to daily.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
The final straw.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Came when Black allegedly menacingly called her a B word
again for a.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Third time in the women's locker room.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I ran out of the fing locker room and started screaming,
Hymen said. She added that's when she decided to post
her now viral video confronting Black stay out in women's
locker room. We don't want it, she railed in the video,
she said following the film exchange, the GEM had police
remove both her and Black from the premises, and both

(15:45):
of their memberships were revoked.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
A representative for.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Hymen said the JEM subsequently called her to say her
membership was under review, but has received nothing In writing, Robin,
I'm gonna go to you first.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I went through a old ball of different feelings that
entire time you were you were reading like, there is
so many, so many things I have to say. Where
do I start? So first of all, uh nothing, I
have nothing against anybody that is transgender. Do what you

(16:29):
do with your body, that's your choice. However, we've we've
discussed this quite a few times before, as far as
women having to share restrooms and changing rooms and things
of the sort with men that decide that they're switching over.

(16:50):
That's unfair. To us women. That is so unfair, like
now look, now look these women are scarred, they are
going to have to go to therapy.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I am.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
This is crazy. The other thing is is that really
really frustrated me. It is so I'm confused, Darvo. You
said something about here in Ohio, but then I was like,
then you're talking about California. So I got a little
confused with that. But the whole thing with.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
That, I just so he was when he beat his
ex wife, he was living in Ohio, Okay, And after
he served his time for doing that, he moved to California.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay. So now I can go forward with what I
was going to say, freaking Ohio man, like this is
our hometown. But what the hell? What the hell there is?
I am so sick and tired of these stories that
I keep hearing over and over and over again. It's
not even just about the men beating women. It's not

(17:51):
just about these type of situations, not just about like
anything with this. I mean the one that I talked
about with that had the situation where the young boy
that lost his life due to a man that was
let out of jail in prison for things that he
did and he should not have been let out. There
was other situations that I have heard over time since

(18:11):
then where they release these individuals and they have already
have charges or things from their past and they're released,
and I just don't understand what the f is wrong
with our justice system? What is like? Seriously, they need
to fix this. They need to fix this. I entirely

(18:33):
blame the justice system because if they would actually handle this,
none of these things would happen. It would not happen.
There's a lot of killings that happen because they don't justify,
you know what I mean, Like, they don't put the
people in they don't keep the people in prison. They

(18:54):
don't make them pay the price for what they do.
Slap on the wrist, Okay, go on about your day,
go on about your life. Oh you get a couple
of years, Okay, go ahead. The next thing, you know,
there's you know, this situation that we're talking about that's
happening now. This lady just lost her membership to a
gym that she's going to for what she's being harassed

(19:17):
by this man in all caps. Come for me, I
don't care. Come for me, I do not care. That
is a man you are bullyant and harassing a woman
like you go. I understand that you feel that you
want you know, you feel a certain type of way,

(19:38):
or you know, if you feel that you are more
more feminine than masculine, fine, but that you should not
make other people have to live the life that you
you choose. That we shouldn't have to deal with that.
Like if my daughter was to be at a pool

(19:58):
place or something and a boy, you know, if there
was a young man in there or whatever, I would
lose my Lissa.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
You be on the news.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I would be on the news. I'm sorry. I would
tear that entire gym apart. Now you can throw me out.
Now you could cancel my membership. Because if my membership
is gonna get canceled, I'm gonna make it worth my while.
I'm gonna tear all this sugar honey iced tea up.
Don't play with me. There's so much going on with

(20:32):
that story that pissed me off.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I'm like, wow, just wow, yeah, no, it was wild.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
So Dante, before I get your reaction, just to add
some more updates. So it says Hyman who is African
American Hymen is now working out his Stronghouse Fitness, the
first black owned private sports gym in Hollywood. She shared
on Instagram. Don't got to worry about the bathrooms here,

(20:58):
she wrote. In her caption, Himen denied being transphobic and
said she wants everybody to be safe, including transgender individuals.
The queer singer said, and this is the article, not me,
it says. The queer singer said she has nothing against
transgender people. I plan on helping them get their own
locker rooms and everything.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
She said.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
At the end of the day, I just want everyone
to be safe.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Dantello thumps, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
You know, I'm glad Robin went first.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Because I you know, I'm trying to choose my words
care like, oh boy, ooh.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Okay, here's a good place to start.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
This is why liberals and progressives constantly lose the culture
war when it comes to politics, because this is stupid
and I'm sorry you can call me transphobic. I truthfully
don't care. Yeah, you should not be men should not

(22:07):
be in a woman's bathroom, like men should not be
playing sports with women. It's common sense. I don't care about. Like,
this is not a well, what about inclusivity. It's not inclusive.
You're intruding in private spaces for women because and I
know this offends people, but trans women are not women.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
They are trans women, and it's a very it's different.
Like trans women are trans women, biological women are women.
It's different, and it's okay, you can just be a
trans woman.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
But why.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Do trans women feel the need to infiltrate and impose
themselves in women's spaces. That's the thing that I've never
understood about out about this movement.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Where are the feminists.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I would think that feminists and women's rights activists would
be appalled that there are literal men trying to take
up spaces that are supposed to be, say, spaces for women,

(23:27):
But no, people are just like okay with this. In fact,
we have laws trying to not only protect this, but
to encourage you. Like in California, you can't tell somebody
what bathroom use. I mean, that is, that's that's lunacy,
and I just you know, I don't. I'm trying to

(23:50):
be respectful here because I do think that trans people
should they command respect, just like everybody else's commands respect.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I mean there.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
All the same, So like this isn't about, you know,
being anti transit. It's kind of just about like protecting
people who are supposed to be protected, right, Like we
don't for example, we don't have kindergarteners in the same

(24:21):
school or in the same classroom with you know, high
school with a ninth grade or a tenth grader. Why
because they're in different spaces, and like kindergarteners are not
at the advanced level of a ninth grader physically, mentally, emotionally.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
So they shouldn't be in the same club.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
We separate them, right because we probably understand that like
a kindergartener needs to be probably protected, right, they can't
play as rough as a as a ninth grader. It's
just they're different. It's the same thing, and we have
no problem with that. This isn't about being anti ninth grader. No, No,
it's just about like protecting a child, right, and protecting

(25:00):
different spaces for children. So it's like trans women can
be protected in their own bathrooms or in the bathroom.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Of their of their genitalia.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
And you know, we know, Robin, but I know, like
for you and me, like if we had daughters, and
oh my god.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
I would listen.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
I have no idea and I'm glad that I don't
have an idea if like my daughter was competing for
a scholarship in track and field and had to compete
against a boy, uh like what we wouldn't I.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Mean, or was in a restroom with a man?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
What?

Speaker 6 (25:46):
And I couldn't do anything? Okay, we will find out
what I could do about it.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
We will find out it's not gonna be pretty, so
you know, And again, I just I don't understand why
this is such an accepted thing for you know, that
side of the political aisle.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
But it's when you.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Take a step back and you realize, like, I'm pretty,
I'm a pretty even killed down the line, non really
a non partisn't type of person. You can understand why
people lose, why certain sides lose certain culture arguments because
this is not a like, this isn't a are you

(26:27):
pro trans or anti tro I mean, this is a
lesbian woman saying like I'm uncomfortable with this right space.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, she's part of the lgbt Q community and she's
like something too that we should also remind people when
you talk to people in that community, they do make
a distinction between the l g B and then the
t part they do a.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Lot of times make a big distinction.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
And this is why, because you know, a lesbian woman,
it's still a woman. She is trying like it's okay
for her to just be in the bathroom. She don't
want to see a dude with a.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Penis just walking around in her space. That's that's inappropriate.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
And you know, I don't understand, I don't even really
understand why that's controversial.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, and then I'll close with this since we just
totally grab that third rail right there.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
It is like the you were bringing up, like the.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Political standpoint, It is like the choosing the twenty percent
of an eighty twenty issue.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
And seriously though, but like you you know, the demographics.
I mean, we're really talking about like, are you really
gonna like commit political suicide culturally based on like one
and a half per center of the population.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Really?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, And the polls show at most, like I said,
at most, this is.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Like a twenty twenty percent issue.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
So when you choose an eighty twenty issue and you're
on the twenty side of the eighty, now if you're
if you're principal, then you know you really believe that
principally then okay, I understand.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
But.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I mean this, this story right here is a perfect
example of like you have someone who's from that community,
who is a black lesbian woman saying that she feels uncomfortable.
And there were also people we didn't get into, like
the backlash and everything, but there were people like shouting
her down and and all this, you know what I mean.

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So it's just it's crazy.

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Speaker 2 (29:59):
You what all right? So you know what, I got
something that this is quite hilarious, but I got my respect.
So everybody, I don't care who you are. I mean,
if you don't know there, I don't, I question everything.
Who Uncle Snoop Dogg is y'all better know, y'all, y'all

(30:20):
just better know. Everybody know who's Snoop Dogg? Yes, Uncle
Snoop unc listen, Okay, he got you know he has
he had that man first of all. He has his
foot in everything, literally everything. But so let me just
say so everybody knows who the Kardashians are. I know,

(30:41):
y'all know who the Kardashians are. Well anyway, so Snoop
Dogg asked Kim Kardashian if it was okay for him
to smoke Mary Jane at Chris Jenner's party, and she's like,
of course you can. Like, who is going to Snoop Dogg? No, Like,

(31:02):
who is going to tell Snoop Dogg no that he
cannot smoke? He was like, listen, he was like I'm
not a big drinker. I prefer to smoke. I do
have a gift for mom, he was like, and I wanted,
you know, to make sure that she got it. And
y'all know, first of all, you know what that sounded
like to me? It sounded like to me he said. Basically,
he was saying, was, well, if you don't say yesterday,

(31:22):
I can smoke, but I'm gonna make sure that she
you know, I'm gonna send her the gift and my
well wishes or whatever. But I think that that was
very respectful, you know, because he could have just showed
up and just started smoking, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
But he asked.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
And I have a lot of respect for that because
for that reason.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I mean, I was.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Thinking too like it was. It actually was. It was respectful.
It was respectful to check. You know, hey, hey, can
I smoke at your mama house? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, Like, how many people who do we know? I mean, listen,
let's let's take a second, because you know, to step
back and think about you know, people those are show
ups to our parties, starts smoking and they'll bring an
extra guest with them and drinking and partying and carrying
on and doing the absolute most.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I hate that. I absolutely hate that.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
At least check first, and I don't like, I'm not
a I do not partake. So I'm not a fan
of the smell, especially like the new stuff, because the
new stuff is just like it does, yeah, stinks and
smells awful, Like what the heck.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Is this alight? Right?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Like what are you putting in your body?

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Like?

Speaker 3 (32:46):
So I'm not a I'm not a fan, but yeah,
I do think this was respectful. You know, check and
make sure Dante. This sounds very old cool right like that.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Yeah, I mean he had the decency to ask. It's not,
you know, good job by Snoop.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
You know, at least just how many of your homeboys
from back in the day that you knew wouldn't ask.
Most of the time they would just be like, you know,
they'll start rolling up and then you know, stop and
be like, oh well I can smoke here right.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
That way, but.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Right, and then when you stop them they be like,
my bad, my bad, Oh my bad, that's right.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like you're like, dude, my mama is right there.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, shout out the snoop though, that's all right. So
our next one, so Wendy Williams. If you don't know
who she is, she was a talk show host. She
had her own talk show where she did a lot
of a lot of tea time. Uh, she would do
a lot of gossip and some things that she would

(33:57):
say would be out of pocket, some things would not
be probably not be true something, you know, most things
would be. People didn't like it. So she's been she's
had some health issues for some time now and so
she she does not have her show anymore. She's been
under care kind of similar to how like Britney Spears was.

(34:22):
But now so the reason being that they put her
under the care is because they were saying that she
had a form of dementia. Now, what I'm going to
point out, and the reason that I'm talking about this
is because I don't know, I'm not really knowledgeable on this,
but I was reading some comments so I wanted to
see what you guys would say. So Wendy Williams reportedly

(34:45):
is cleared of having front front toe front toe temporal
dementia frontal temporal and following the neurological testing. Now, now
from what I was reading with a lot of people
was saying and you know, you can't believe everything you
see on the internet. So again I wanted to see

(35:08):
what you guys would say, right, They said that this
is not something that this cannot ever go away. People
were saying this, that's something that you you're that you
live with, that don't go away, that don't just go away,
don't just disappear.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
So yeah, So for me, I think a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So one, Wendy is sixty one years old.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
So I guess you can I guess you can say
she's like in the senior stage of her life.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
One of like, when I.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Hear this, the thing I think about is one of
the reasons why, Like I think one thing that we
don't talk enough about.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Is like elder care.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Because to me, if it's true that it's been ruled
out that she has this, then that tells me that
makes me feel like the whole thing was a money grab,
was an attempt to control her and to get control
of her riches. And we saw her in that one

(36:18):
video or at one I think it was like a
documentary or something, but she was sitting in the house
crying like and it was actually really really heartbreaking, especially
you know for someone like even though Wendy Williams has
always been very messy.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
You still don't want to see human suffering like that.
But that's what that tells me. That tells me that.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
She was If her dementia went away, then she probably
never had it in the first place. And if she
never had it in the first place, then this was
really just an attempt by people. And this is something
she alleged herself, that this was an attempt by people
to control her, to be able to control her wealth.

(37:03):
And I think that that's sad. If that's the case,
I think that's sad. I think that's unfortunate, and I
do think we have to start having more conversations about
elder care, particularly in this day and age where people
are living longer, and we need to be having conversations

(37:26):
about what the parameters are, what's right and what's wrong,
what's ethical and what's not ethical, because I don't think
it's ethical to say that someone has some sort of
disorder in order to be able to control them and
get control of their life and their finances. And in

(37:48):
some cases, you know, the law and the systems are
not set.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Up for the rights of older.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
People, you know, because they'll just assume, oh where they're
just olding crazy, you know what I'm saying. So, so
I do think we need to be having a more
con a bigger conversation about that on a more national level, especially.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
With parents living longer.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
All of us are going to be caregivers at one point,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
So I think we all need to be having that conversation.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Dante, that's a that's a good way to look at
this with the elder care centerment I I don't know, man,
I kind of sort of agree to. Like, dementia, at
least as far as I know, doesn't really.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Just go away.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
If you actually have it, right, Like usually people who
have dementia or any form of Alzheimer's, it usually continues downhill,
not like, oh, actually you know, you're fine. You know,
it usually doesn't get better. So I think that's a
positive for her. Then maybe there's a path back. But yeah,

(39:04):
it definitely could have been a situation where people may
have been trying to take advantage of her or put
themselves in a position to gain from her demise, you know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
You know what I was gonna say real quick, So
I'm not going to say who, but I have a
relative who has early onset dementia. But the thing is
is that dementia can be reversed. It's but the form

(39:42):
that Wendy Williams has. They are stating that type if
you have like early onset, like just regular dementia. If
you have early onset, you if you catch it in time,
you can change your eating habits. You can do like
brain exercises like mushroom coffee, things that you know, mushroom

(40:07):
relation things that brain food really you can reverse.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
My grandfather had a mild stage to mention. He was
able to manage it with like medicine stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, so it can be, It can can be managed,
it can be reversed. But the one that she has had,
That's what I was saying in the comments. They were
saying that that type cannot be. That one just don't
go away first one, right, exactly exactly. So yeah, I

(40:40):
just wanted to bring that up because I thought that
that was that was an interesting topic because that's been
something that's kind of kind of common a lot lately.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Mh.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
So yeah, next, so real real quick. I didn't quite
get it all, but I did see and Dante's shared
it with us, as well, So Tory Lanes, everybody, if
you all remember that we covered the story about Megan
thee Stallion and Tory Lanes. It's been it's been a

(41:11):
couple of years. Well, Tory lanez he did file for
an appeal and to be released potentially, and he was denied.
And I still stick with my opinion from the last
time then we talked about it, which was, you know,

(41:32):
years ago, free Tory, Free Toy. That's free Tory. That
man is innocent. Y'all need to lock away that best friend.
That girl, she's guilty.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
But anyway, so I'll say I'll just say this because
we're running short.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Long time.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I don't know what happened this, you know, Uppill being
denied doesn't really mean much to me one way or
the other.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Because of just the way the courts work.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
I'm interested to see if he has any more appeals left.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
What do you remember how long he was sentenced?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Probably?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Oh god, no, got t ten? Yeah? Was that state
or federal? I think it was state, but I'm not
I don't remember off him.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I believe it's been a while.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
So how long has he been in already, y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Roughly halfway.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
No, No, he ain't dead. Five years, hasn't been following year.
It ain't been five years.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's been a while. It isn't been a good couple
of years.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, it's it's it's been a good couple of years,
because don't they make you wait a certain amount of
years before.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You how long as Tory.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Lane's been locked up. That's the first one.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
He's been incarcerated since December of twenty twenty two.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yes, he's been well was he right, that's when he
went to jail. But he was sentenced on August eighth
of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Right, but you know that.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
That time is going to service. Yeah, yeah, time is
going to count.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
So two three he was, Yeah, he was convicted of
twenty two right, yeah, until not halfway but yeah about
so it'll be next year, it'll be four years.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah, he's gonna do that. He's gonna do every better
that ten. Do you think you're gonna do the whole time?
Oh yeah? In California.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Uh, well, he's a fella that had a firearm where
that got convicted of a crime with a fire Yeah,
like oh.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, he's just because of that.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
I don't I don't know if it's federal or state.
I just you know, there was just a lot of conversation.
Uh no, it yeah, it was. I don't know if
it was federal or state. I just my whole thing
with this was there. I think there was just a
lot of mis information going around around with this case,

(44:02):
and a lot of I don't want to say false hope,
because you know, everybody's entitled to however many appeals the
law allows.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
But I don't think that. I think the popularity in.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
This case, like with a lot of cases that are
with popular celebrities, there's just gonna be a lot of misinformation.
And from everything I've seen, it's like his appeals didn't
have a lot to stand on, and just in terms
of like how he's convicted, where he was convicted, and
like the evidence that he supposedly had, and so then

(44:38):
what bothers me the most about that is like when
you get high profile cases and sort of murky water,
well that's the perfect and a lot of confusion, Well
that's the lot. That's the perfect case for a charlatan,
right like here here come to grifters, Here come to
Charlatans and that's really but I you know, I won't

(45:02):
say anything more, but.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I think we've stepped on enough.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Rags today, right, I mean, he's gonna do he gonna
do that ten So I did just look it up.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
According to BT, they can still appeal to.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
The California Supreme Court and they're weighing their options there.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I expect them to and then you'll.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
See, you'll see what happened.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
But again, keep in mind, you know, anytime things go
through the court system, you never know what's gonna happen.
Like people didn't think in a million years that Bill
Cosby's uh convictions would be thrown out by the.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Well, so he did never know.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
That was one where you know, he should have never
been tried in the first place, you know what I mean,
just based on the fact that a prosecute, the person
who held that office said that you know, wouldn't be
he wouldn't be prosecuted if he gave testimony in a
civil suit.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
So why was he prosecuted later?

Speaker 6 (46:09):
You know what I mean? Like, you know, that's a
whole nother thing.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
But but that's what I'm saying, Like when you get,
especially in local courts and state courts, like they're just
very And.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
That's why I said you should absolutely apply. Yeah, I
mean that's it's your right, right exactly. I mean, what's
the worst, what's the worst that could hapen? You can
spend a little more meanings and spend a little more
money on lawyers. They don't you get it. I mean,
you get a shot, even if it's a shot in
the dark, you should still take it.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Exactly. He got the money.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
So all right, we are running short on time, so
let's get out of.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Here and stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
We have Dante's Hot Takes coming up next here on
the YO.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
What's up? Bring the noise?

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Right?

Speaker 6 (46:46):
He had chuck the Republic enemy number one. You are
tuning the Outlaws Radio Show.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Buck up, true, sir, pray, welcome back, Welcome back and.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Listen to the Outlaws.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
And now is the time to show that we like
to call Dante's hot takes telling the truth. Whether you
like it or not, it's Dante's Hot Takes.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
On the Outlaws Radio Show. Okay, So we have.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Once again, it seems like we every time we're on
we're talking about the current administration putting its foot in
its mouth or doing something that isn't what they were
elected to do. So recently, President Trump came out and

(47:53):
talked about a fifty year mortgage or a one hundred
and eighty month car loan that's fifteen years by the way,
and was floating these ideas around as potential ways to
make things more affordable for people who you know, maybe

(48:18):
you can't afford a fifteen or thirty year mortgage, but
you could a fifty year mortage because your monthly payment
would be so low. Well, if you understand how interest works,
that essentially makes you a slave to that loan for
pretty much over half of most people's lives. Right, a

(48:40):
fifty year mortgage, you are going to pay back close
to double your mortgage just based on in interest payments.
Most people will never be able to pay that off.
I mean think about it. If you buy the home
when you're twenty seven years old, you won't be on
schedule to pay it off until you are in your

(49:01):
late seventies, right, So that doesn't really make the loan
more affordable. It sort of just locks you in longer.
Very similar with an auto with you know, one hundred
and eighty month car auto loan.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
We're talking, you.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Know, fifty years of you being stuck the interest on that.
I mean that that's something that should not be floated.
So we're hearing stuff like this which are not real
solutions to the problem of affordability in the economy. And
then President Trump in an interview with Laura ingram and

(49:44):
talks about how we don't have enough talented workers here
in America and we need to bring in more H
one B visas. This is almost antithetical to the MAGA
platform form or the magabase. This is the exact opposite

(50:04):
of what this administration was elected to do. They were
elected on empowering American workers and bringing jobs back to
the United States, not either exporting or rising costs or
due to a number of reasons.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
So my advice to this administration would be.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Focus up and remember what you were actually elected for,
what your mandate was when you were elected, because if
you don't, you're gonna get massacred in twenty twenty six
at the mid terms.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
There's pretty much nothing else say with that other than
the fact that I didn't hear about the car loan thing.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I heard about the mortgage. I didn't hear about the
car loan.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, fifteen years for Carloon as a way for affordability.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Yeah, ten to fifteen year loans, one hundred and eighty
month loans.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Potentially, what would you want the ones that's out day today?

Speaker 5 (51:15):
You get a brand new card today. I mean that things.
I mean, come on, that's you know. Yeah, you may
have one hundred and thirty dollars a month payment, but
really you are I mean you.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Signed yourself up to be an interest slave.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
It'd be like that Joe on Martin on the I
think it was the last season and Cole was still
making payments on his pacer. He's like, twelve more payments
and it be all mine.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
That's exactly where you will be going with a ten
year old.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Let him know how to follow you, sir.

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