The Podguyz Podcast live with cosplayer joe fisher

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think we're live. We're gonna play the live card.
Hello everybody in Facebook Live Land. We are the pod
Guys podcast, bringing it to you as we do every
Monday ten fifteen Eastern Standard Time.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Tony Kavs Kevin Neary.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Here, of course, we have the ever loving Picasso, the Uh,
the dreamer of dreams, the fainter of figures, the uh
father of all things forgivable, last Marque, and Sparky's got
his big board right there for our viewing audience.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sparky will kind of be drawing what we're talking about.
He does get around the world in the week that
we are not here. So whatever has happened in the
world of significant impact, you can assure yourself Sparky was
there somewhere, unseen, in the corner of a room somewhere.
He's like the fly on the wall that nobody minds

(00:53):
having in the room. Tony, we have a fourth square here,
We do have a fourth square.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
We have the the living, the breathing.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Joe Yep, that's me.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, We're just gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Go with Jim.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
He's he's a jumping Joe Fisher.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yep, jumping Joe Fisher.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Really yeah mm hmm, is Fisher really your last name?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Last time I checked in on every government list I
had said.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
About that, you know, shout out to all the identity him.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That right, like, could I have two more generic names,
like other than John Doe?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Like yep, it feels like an occupation. Are you a
Fisher or no?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
No, absolutely not. I can't catch anything to save my life.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Then more ironically there, you know, like, hey, the guy
that can't catch fish, guess what government just said that
his new his new last name is Fisher.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Fuck him right, Joe?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
You are you are here to talk a lot of
ship because you said you got a lot of ship
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Is that true? As absolutely? Absolutely yeap. So I I
am what you would call a jack of all trades.
There's not much that I haven't done in life. I was,
I was saying earlier when we're doing, you know, doing
introductions here, Like when I was when I was a
kid and I was in we were on a wrestling
trip in the middle of South Dakota and we're driving

(02:21):
down through this little podunk town and I see a
guy in a truck who lives in this tiny, little
like four person town, and I go, I just look
at him and like, what are you doing with your life? Why?
And it was at that moment, and in my adolescence,
that I realized that my midlife crisis was going to

(02:43):
be extraordinary. If I didn't know, I did it just spark.
And at that moment I devoted to living my life
with pure adventure, turning everything I do into something wild
and crazy, and love it.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
When children ask adults, what are you doing with your life?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
You know, it's exactly that. It's the ultimate question.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It needs to be asked only by children because if
adults are saying, like, hey, what are you doing with
your life? An adult could always respond back, what the
fuck are you.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Doing your life? You know, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yelling a kid, you know, the Grenna Thunberg has proven
you cannot yell at a kid and look classy at all.
You know, he'd bing. Crosby pulled it off, Milton Burrell
pulled it off. Better get out of here, kid, here
you bother me, And everyone's like, get the fuck away

(03:41):
from him, get the what are you doing kid?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Get away from him. That's Milton Barrel over there, Yella.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
She stood on her flotilla and yelled to everyone you're
kidding me from pedestide.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, it didn't. It really didn't pass the eye test.
It was her and fourteen dudes on a flotilla and
these were these were some gruff looking guys, you know,
like these weren't like if she brought them over her
parents' house and she's like, these are all my friends.
Her parents have been like, Greta, you autistic fuck get

(04:16):
over here.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Not happening. Okay, no, no.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Guys, get the fuck out of here, all due respect,
you have to leave. What what what are you doing?
What do you this is? I know she's nineteen, but
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Nothing, nothing weirder than fourteen dudes hanging out with a
nineteen year old that has the body of a twelve
year old, just throwing it out there, fourteen of them.
She found fourteen guys to agree to take her on
a boat adventure in the Middle East of fucking crisis land,
Bob and Baba, and she's like, blah, we're on a

(04:56):
peace mission. It's like, okay, great, Greta. So so you
know what happens when they catch you?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
No, well, all right, you're about to find out. And
she did get caught, but They're like, Ah, she's too stupid.
I think that's something wrong with her. It reminds me
of Timothy Treadwell. If you're familiar with the bear Man story.
The funniest possible interview I ever heard of my life
was when the sheriff was asked, why do you feel

(05:27):
like the bears did not harm Timothy after thirteen years
of going up and hanging out with them? And the
sheriff responded, I think the bears thought there was something
mentally wrong with him, so they didn't want to eat
him because they thought that he might already have some
poison inside of him. You know, if something's acting a

(05:48):
little funny, you don't really want to want to eat it.
Great tumbler, right there, Joe. We were just watching the
movie Jaws, and my favorite movie of all time. Ucked
talk about jumping the shark in the movie a whole
bunch of times. Right, you got one shark, right like

(06:09):
Shark Nato. You got one shark. Shark Nato didn't disguise itself. Well,
you got one shark, and you have hundreds of people
in the ocean and they're.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Like, get out of the water, Get out of the dude.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
How long how fast do you think this shark is
gonna eat all of those people?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Richard Jenny had one of the funniest jokes about about
Jaws Richard Jenny. His his take was a you know,
it's weird because they made Jaws three when they moved
to La and family moves to La and Jaws were
waiting for Jaws to come up and knock on the
door and say, hey, guys, I know you fucking live here.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
The original plot for Jaws three. It breaks my heart
that it never got made because it was originally gonna
be Jaws three People zero, and it was gonna be
a slapstick comedy like National Lampoon style, And at some
point they had already done like pre production on it,

(07:21):
and at some point somebody said, now let's make it serious.
And I just want to kick that guy right in
the crotch because that would have been just too perfect.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
You know, have you ever seen the movie The Megaladon?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, with with Jon stythem, Oh yeah, of.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Course played the movie and and that I feel like
was supposed to be the original Jaws three right up,
but they put it in that particular movie.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's close. The Deep Blue c was original only gonna
be Jaw. It was originally thrown around to be Jaws five,
and they were gonna have five sharks. Five you know,
is in Jaws kind of thing. But I don't know.
Something happened with the licensing or something like that.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It feels I gotta interrupted John. I apologize for the
immediate interruption. But that's their big idea where they got
around the table, right, and they said, all right, guys, well, hey,
I mean John, only, what if we had another shark?
They're like, what if we had three sharks and then

(08:32):
the fifth guy? His major contribution to that was what
if the fifth one existed?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
And they're like, we got a movie Jaws three had
two sharks in it. John four had followed them from
from New England all the way down to the Bahamas
because it was under a voodoo spell. Yeah, I mean,
why not. They couldn't get any wackier than that? Why not?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, why not just make the eighty bunch of of sharks?
Or here's a story of a hungry family. You know,
you're also talking to somebody who read the book Jaws
The Revenge. I actually read the book that the fourth one.
There was There was the first book and the second one.
Peter Benchley wrote the first one, Harry Seals wrote the second.
There was no third book, and then the fourth one.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Was absolutely incredible and and I and I don't use
that word lightly because it's amazing that this guy, this,
this whole movie had to have been written on the
purest cocaine because it had everything to do with the
The mob came back from the first book and they're

(09:43):
like and then and then. So basically the whole plot
of the book Uh is that Brody Uh in New
York slights this voodoo man who's doing voodoo practicing, and
he puts a curse on the Brody family, which is
why the shark follows them. Somehow they fly down to

(10:07):
the Bahamas, and somehow that shark beats them there, like
by swimming. Sure, it's the worst book, but I absolutely
love it. I have the most rose hinted glasses for anything. Jaws.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Who do we have on the show that was from Jaws?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
God, we had we had a couple of a couple
of people were I don't know if we're at liberty
to announce them at all, because I don't think we
have good friendships with them anymore, Tony, No, no, no,
they I think.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
They hate us. I think they hate us now for
kind of calling them, calling them out on being only
famous for Jaws.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And I swear we had somebody on the show once
for and they were a Jaws writer. Uh.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I don't remember who the hell it was.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, no, no, I just got I just got back
from a Shark convention, believe it or not, of Shark
con in Tampa, Florida, and they had in Florida. They
had some of the right, they had some of the
cast from Jaws and Jaws two. But like it blew

(11:18):
my mind because in the first movie you have the
three main characters and then Lorraine Gray, Murray Hamilton and
that's it. Everybody else in that movie is an extra
on that island. And so they had these people who
which is really funny. In the first movie, you remember
the two kids that have the fake cardboard Finn right

(11:41):
and right. Those two kids are actually brothers in real life,
and one of them is now the chief of police
in Edgartown where they filmed it. So he's literally like
the new chief Brody there. And I know it blew
my mind yeah, one of the guests. One of the
guests was the girl on the beach who goes shark

(12:02):
in the Oh yeah, that's Steve van z yep. And
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Steve van Zant was on our show.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
He did Martin Lawrence as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
He was a writer for for Jaws and for Martin
and for Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
He did a little bit of acting as well.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
In the second movie. One of the actors his last
name is Ducaccus, and he found apparently knew but nobody
knew this, but apparently he is the son of presidential
nominee Michael Ducaccus. And so we're like, really, that's your

(12:41):
claim to fame, is that your dad was running for
president and you were in Jaws two. And I asked
I got to ask the question. I said, Hey, in
the first movie, everybody called this shark Bruce. He named
it after you know, h Spielberg's lawyer. And I said,
what about the second movie? Was there ever a nickname
for that shark? And he said, at the time, they

(13:05):
found out that Fidel Castro's favorite movie of all time
was Jaws, and so he tried to get the shark
to be called Fidel and it never picked up, so
I said, yeah, well it's probably gonna be on IDB
in a week here. Now that everybody knows that the
shark was going to be named Fidel.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
There's a good potential for it. So the one of
the best monologues of all time was the character quint, Mmm,
do you need that? Played by Robert Shaw, And I
got to just read it off real quick, because this
is this is some brilliant writing by collaboration of course
by Carl gott Levin Peter Benchley, and delivered by the

(13:47):
way perfectly by Robert Shaw. And you could tell just
to by the way that it's gone word by word
that it couldn't have been read word for word.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
He says, uh, you all know me. You don't hire
and a living.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna
be easy, bad fish, not like going down to the
pond chasing bluegills and Tommy kats a hole shaken down
to go. Now, we got to do a quick that'll
bring back the tourists and I'll put your businesses in
paying bases.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
The delivery on that was just and by the way,
the makeup artist on him to make him. Look the
part of ex veteran USS Indianapolis whatever, you know, the
backstory of the character, and for him to portray that
mask put on him to a t where he did
not give a shit about anyone. He had zero respect

(14:46):
for the sheriff and even less respect for just He
embodied every inch of that character, and all three worked
together as the perfect trifecta of chemistry on screen that
it didn't matter. By the time we did see the shark,

(15:09):
everyone was like, what the fuck, Holy shit, now they're
out there with this thing. And of course they kind
of gave the shark a little bit of a personality,
as if it knows to eat a boat. Now, Now,
sharks don't just eat a fucking boat, all right.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
No, no, no, no, that's actually not true.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I've just seen a video today of a shark trying
to eat a boat.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
A great white believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Okay, every day a shark does not eat a boat.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, no, no, no, then I'll just wander around.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
They're like any boats I can fucking eat.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Plus, there was chum all over the back of the boat.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Exactly. You know, they're trying to rile this thing up.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, there's a there, there was a there's a couple
of things that we learned about Jaws that I had
never pictured for I've seen this movie so much that
you can you can start a quote from this movie
and I can finish it. It's it's that ingrained into
my brain. And I learned that every time you see
the color yellow, someone's about to die. Yep, that's true,

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kind of like how orange orange with The Godfather is
and everything of that. So it's very prolific that every
time you see the color yellow, and once they're on
the boat, every the shark only makes an appearance or
an attack. Every time Hooper and Quint get really riled

(16:36):
up together. It's almost like their conflict brings the shark out.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And that it is not only just too you know,
because you can only yell nonsense words at each other
so much until you have to add a new element
in there where then they get back to work sort
of thing, and that that technique had. It's been used
throughout like the Bob Newhart Show where they're having a
disagreement then somebody knocks at the door. This has been

(17:03):
used before in the Burns and Allen TV series, not
just in comedies, but in actions as well, action flicks
as well, and it moves the story. It moves the
storyboard along very quickly. But speaking of storyboards, we have
Sparky's big board right there. Sparky's arms are getting tired.
He's got a lot to say. What that board around, Sparky, What.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Is going on.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
After spending a week on a boat with fourteen men?
Greta only got a red snapper.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I need a beg of snapper. That'll be Josh killing me, Spoky,
that'll be That'll be the real Jaws. Five there, Jows
versus Greta.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
You know, Greta would be the one to Greta would
be the one to protest against killing Jaws, and then
Jaws kill her. You see how that works. You know,
probably we must say the shots Shark jumps up and kills.
Everybody's like, okay, well, now that she's gone, we're cool
to a parody movie like today.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
The Sharknado people are already furiously writing right now.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
They are watching this, Right now, they're watching They know
that they have some comedic gold.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
They're like, ah, the Pie Guy's podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
What can we see?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
I keep bringing this, I keep If you're into Joe
are you into movie theory at all? As far as characters,
characters are perceived in different facets and for the wrong reasons,
and people, you know, they misinterpret these characters on who
they really are. I've had this movie theory out there
for a little while now, and I'll.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Repeat it as much.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'll shout into the fucking moon until people hear me
on this one. Okay, Tony's heard it a million times over,
and if you want to hear it. Have you ever
seen the movie Rocky? Yeah, of course, Okay, great, very
classic movie.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Now we do have.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now Sparky's over there holding his face and holding his
head like waiting like a motherfucker man. So, uh, Mick
from Rocky, you're familiar with the character, Yep, Meredith, Mick
has always been a scumbag. Okay, he literally put Rocky's
life in front in danger in every case an instance

(19:26):
through his poor training. By the way, Mickey's only around
for Rocky. He's only there for Rocky when Rocky has
money and shit to give him, like a.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Disgusting pieces in it for himself.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Always he clears Rocky's locker out and then once he
hears that Rocky's got a little bit of money coming
in a big opportunity. Boy, he knocks on his door,
he pumps up his numbers on his age, you're a bum, and.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Makes Rocky feel bad for it.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Not only that, but he but he trains him like
the fucking dumbest person alive could train anybody, like, holy fucked.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
If you are a person.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Who is training at a farm to catch chickens, that's
when you want to train somebody with a chicken. A
chicken will not punch you in the face repeatedly, round
after round after round. And then Mickey gets even dumber
because why not he probably took out an insurance policy

(20:27):
life insurance policy on Rocky. For Rocky too, because he
tells an older He tells an older boxer who was
left handed to fight right handed because Apollo won't see
it coming.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
By the way, Apollo was a little tricked up because
Rocky was a southpaw and he's normally used to fighting
right handers his whole entire championship career. So what's not
gonna fuck up Apollo is somebody, now fight weaker right
handed while his wife is in a coma, and he says, oh, no,
you need to drink more eggs and run with me

(21:07):
while I'm on a fucking bicycle and move around a
medicine ball. We know how bad of a fucking trainer
Mickey was by Rocky three when he dies, finally, holy shit,
thank god.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
For that.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Honest to god trainer.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
He gets a real trainer, the guy who beat him bad.
He's like, hey, Rocky, you know, let's try some footwork.
And he's like, never have you do this? And there
is a look on Carl Weathers, who played Apollocree, there
was a look on his face and it's just like
and he wanted to tell Rocky how fucking terrible the trainer.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm bad of a person.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
He thought, Really, Mickey was, you know, it's cats and
dogs when it comes to that kind of stuff. So
he looks at him, He's like, yeah, okay, and just
leaves it at that, and that tells us enough where
he's just like, you know, he wanted to say Rocky's
you've never been tough footwork because Mick didn't care about you.
He's been stealing from you. He found a way to

(22:04):
live inside of your mansion. He gave you such a
complex that you felt you couldn't win without his advice
of I'm gonna throw the towel because you're getting your
head knocked in out there. That's not advice, by the way,
that's just a fact. That's just Mick reflecting on Mick

(22:25):
saw that it was almost nine PM and Matt Locke
re runs were coming on at fucking.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
That also here, not only did not only is that
basically factual, it also wore off on Rocky. Rocky learned
how to do that because at the very end of
three they go and they spar with each other, right,
and we don't know who wins. And then in four
Rocky Apollo's gonna fight the Russian and Rocky's like, yeah,

(22:57):
I think you should, and he doesn't throw in the
towel because that's when you're gonna find out. And Rocky
was never gonna let it out that he lost, so
he let Apollo die. He did let Apollo guy.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
But now that was probably a bad call by it
was a bad well, it's a bad call by old
pop by Apollo Creed saying like, hey, Rocky, you could
be my manager, and Rocky's like that doesn't sound right,
and he's like, no, you could, because you know undertones
of Cold War.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Huh how about that?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
And every time Sylvester's alone writes a script, he realized,
you have to kill off a main character or no
one's gonna give a fuck. Uh Enters Rocky five the
the you know. The worst part about I think I
think the worst part about it was even after he
beat mister T, he still has this lingering. Okay, so

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Rocky two, Rocky one, Right, we'll get to a real
quick Rocky one. He's like, Okay, Mick, you could be
my manager into Rocky two. Rocky's down in his luck.
He says, Mick, can I just help out with the gym?
You know, I'll do whatever I need to do. I'll
help train the guys as far with them. I'll give
them my experience. Mick looks him dead in the eye
and says, no, I don't want you down there, and

(24:14):
I don't think you want to be down there either.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
The guy is asking for a lifeline, the same that
you asked for before. But you know what that would
be Mickey given Rocky money for a job, not the
other way around.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
What a scumbag, you know? Yeah, he still Polly is
the hero of the movie.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
He gave him his sister to hook up with. Now,
IM sure he's an Italian who beat the shit out
of his sister in Philly. That's literally every Italian family
in seven that's well, I mean, she might have already
had salad brain you know where. He's just like, hey,
you know, we'll put the well, we'll let her work
in the pet shop.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Now, he did use the R word when he described
his sister, but she's a little.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's a big, silly city of Philadelphia. And by the way,
Polly gave him, let me see here, his sister. He
gave him a job at the meat plant. You know,
he made sure that that Rocky was taken care of.
And Rocky gives him a watch, and I like how
Polly flips out and says, you want the fucking watch.
He's like, no, keep it on the goddamn ground. He's like,

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He's like, Mickey, Mickey, you set him up with a
man with a room in your house. Me, who the
fuck is Mickey to you? And I'm thinking to myself,
holy shit. Paullie was the only character to figure out
how much of a scumbag Mickey actually a user that
Mickey actually was of Rocky's life and how much of
a giver Polly was a real friend even we know

(25:46):
it later on in the newer Rocky movies, where Polly
is still there to visit his sister and Rocky's wife
Adrian's grave together and helps again with the training prize,
says until Bert Young passed away. Obviously, you know you
can't have him dead in the movie too too much.
But seriously, that was Rocky's only friend. Maybe Apollo a

(26:09):
little bit, but Sparky flipped that big board around and
see what's going on? No no women during training, Rocky,
but that is okay. I sent her to the zoo
and as you could see, he sent her sent her
to the zoo.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm gonna go send my sister to the zoo to
go pet the lions.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
To Rocky retimes back the zoo and then he got
He's like what and then like literally later on he's like,
Gus would be a good date.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Throughout the sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
But yo, what is one movie theory you have that
people tend to ignore but you really need to lean
into and you know you're it no matter what anybody says,
do you have one? It could be a know, and
we could immediately move on, or it could be a yes,
and you have it in the gun, ready to roll,
running through your veins, ready to escape your throat into

(27:13):
your mouth for our ears to enjoy right now, go
for it, my friend.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh Man, right on the spot like that, I definitely
no idea.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
You literally had enough stall time and run on sentence
there for you to just all right.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, I was. I was so in the roller coaster
for that whole I I there are definitely some series
that I have. I'm gonna have to think about it. Okay,
think about it, Tony.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You are up next with movie theory. I know you
have a critique on almost every movie the same way
I would have one, but one movie theory Tony, that
you have that people should really get their fucking head
straight with, and they need to know about it right
now before and do a rewatch. Do rewatch these movies.

(28:02):
We encourage you to do a rewatch these movies. You
will find that Mickey is nothing more than a scumbag.
He when he actually helps Rocky visit his coma riddled wife,
he was like, so when you're getting back, what the
fuck what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
All right?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
So my My main thing would be Arnold Schwarzenegger playing
three main characters through every portion of his movies. And
he plays the same character every single time. Okay, now
even if you happen to go way back.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
He played Conan the Barbarian. That was that was an
iconic character. He played that character for for a couple movies.
And he also played uh.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Oh my god, what the hell was that? Uh, I'd have.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
To look at it, look at his biography and something
in red Sonia.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Red Sonia, Yeah, the red Sonia series, of course. And
he also played oh my god, even when he went
through well even through Hercules, Hercules, New York.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Let's just call him the Terminator no matter what, Okay,
because say he's because the Terminator can time travel. So
the Terminator wants to teach class and is trying The
Terminator is trying to find who.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
John uh, John Connor, John Connor.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
And he doesn't know what school John Connor goes to,
so enter kindergarten.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Cop.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
That's just the terminator trying to find John Connor the
whole time. Conan Conan, Conan the Barbarian. That's just the
terminator with a fucking sword traveling traveling through traveling through
time some more jingle all the way is the Terminator
trying to find John Connor, trying to find the perfect

(30:00):
gift for Christmas, But it turns out he's just hanging
out with Sindbad the whole fucking movie.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, he played in the sixth the Sixth Day, which
was like, was just the Terminator the Terminator?

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Also the uh what was the total recall.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Which was he didn't realize he was a terminator, he
didn't remember it, you know, that was total recall. By
the way, it was masterpiece of all sort, you know
quato there. Yeah, and this is this is like before
they over they overdid c g I. This was like
Blue Sky on Mars. They never pull They never let

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anyone know if it was a reality he was living or.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Ending. They have left the ending really ambiguous so that
you could draw your own conclusion for it.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's such a good same character for the Predator series,
the Commando series, the Terminators.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Don't forget Tony the running Man. Wait, the Running Man
was just a male version of the Hunger Games.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mm hmm. I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
That's that's why when everyone's like, oh my god, the
Hunger Games is so good.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I watched five minutes. I'm like, this is the running Man. God,
this is this is just the running Man.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Then he tried playing a cop.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
He played a cop and Rod Deal he played a
cop in Kindergarten Cop.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Rod Deal was good. Rod Deal was very good.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
True Lies collateral damage, Junior collateral damage.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
End of Days.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Don't forget the one of one of the most classics
stopper my mom will shoot Wait a second, that was
still one.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh, and Last Action Hero, which I will stand behind
Last Action Hero as being a magnum opus because it
was so much ahead of its time that people did
not realize the gold that that movie is your gold.
I think people wanted the characters characters. I think.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I think the problem with the movie, though, is people
wanted a movie and it was a movie about a
movie about a movie about it.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
If that movie had waited at least until nineteen ninety
six ninety seven, when everything meta started happening, like with
Scream and things like that, that that movie it would
have been revered because it was a perfect tongue in
cheek parody of the buddy cop movie, like it had
everything in it. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
It did, and then it kind of fell flat during
the ending where it didn't really show much of an end.
It had the oh now he escapes back from the
movie theater, back to his seat sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know, that great monologue by by Ian McKell and
his death. I mean, that's there is so much in
that movie that people don't remember Art Carney was in it.
That was one of his last.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Film, Art Carney, Art Carney one of the one of
the lesser known oscar winners of Best Actor Academy Award
winner Art Carney. Yeah, yeah, that was one of his
last movies. Arnold Dance chewing so much scenery as the
bad guy. Like, he hasn't been that enjoyable of a
bad guy until like until Game of Thrones came out,

(33:30):
And oh, I just I absolutely love that movie. There's
a lot there's a lot of underrate.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Now all of these was the act guy.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Come on, that's all of these stars that you know
are mentioned right now are in their eighties. You know,
they're eighties stars in their eighties. They're eighty years old.
You have Arnold just walking around doing stuff being eighty
years old, which is proving he is probably a robot
throwing it out there. You know, it's a different world

(34:02):
we're living in now. Now, we're living in the world where,
you know, you have the Flash and the Peter Pan
roaming around stealing kids and fucking you know, nobody knows
if he could be taken off a movie because all
the CGI could have gone somewhere else. Literally, you could
have just replaced his face and he didn't need to
be in it. You wouldn't have to pay him anything,
you know. Yeah, Like, I've watched the movie and I

(34:23):
was like, you know what, I wonder if I watched
Flash on three times of speed, if it's really gonna
fuck with the plot.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
It didn't. It didn't at all.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
No, it did nothing. It didn't didn't miss.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
The same as normal speed as it was three times
the speed.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, if I did it at one time speed, I'm like, Oh,
the acting is kind of that of the CW. Sparky's
got something on the big board there. But what's going on, Sparky,
Oh something McAfee protection has ended popped up on my
screen there, So somebody else has to fucking so.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
That Bill Paxson was by an alien, a predator, and
a terminator. That's the right Bill Paxton was killed by
an alien, a predator, and a terminator.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
He's the only one. Though he's not the only one.
Lance Hendrickson is also shares that look that's MARKI, where
were you at the.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Time to ponder, Joe, what would you say is your
answer to?

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (35:30):
To a famous movie?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
We can play a little we can play a little
guessing game right here, Joe schwarzeneggerist alone. You gotta pick one.
The other ones movies do not exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh okay, all right, all right, all right, hold on.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Okay, hold on, because if you if you don't have
an immediate answer, we'll go to another one.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Pacha, no, no, I've got it. I've got it. But
it's a tough one because of all of Stallone's films,
his best, too, are Cobra and Tangle In Cash Hands
Down and Going Cash was garbage. Oh you shut your
horn mouth. That movie is That movie is the Bible,
the Bible of what the Bible?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Oh my god, no, no, no, I love First of all,
the one liners are the one liners belong in The
Naked Gun because they're a fucking joke exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
No, but they were trying to make an actual action.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I know.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
There were scenes that.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Stallone could not like the whole movie was a train wreck.
Cannot be the premise of watching the movie as a
serious action movie.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, but you got Roberts, Roberts, the You've got all these,
all these perfect things for it, and then it just
nothing happens. And mind you, the other one is Cobra.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Kurt Russell and Stallone couldn't stand each other so much.
They had to they had to splice scenes up.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Okay, they had to splice it because that was when
the loan was going through his phase of I'm better
than everybody else. He is there, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
He's still stuck there.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
He really is fucking Tulsa King.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Dude, what the fuck? That is not even a show
right now? That that has maybe one okay scene and
then you're like, oh, is Rocky training this kid? And
you're like, no, it's Tulsa King. He hate Rocky in
this one. I'm like, oh, because he's kind of talking
like a Rocky throughout every fucking scene because the range

(37:40):
of a built Cobra Cobra Cobra is just much angrier Rocky. Okay,
Rambo is Rocky with PTSD and Rocky just keeps getting
more mushier brained throughout time, to the point.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Where he now almos Kurt Russell rip off.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Basically, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Police officers Ray Tango and Gabe Cash are narcotics experts
working to bring down drug lord Yavas Parae. In an
attempt to stem their efforts, paraes that's up, Tango and
Cash makes it look as if they've killed an FBI agent.
Arrested and put in prison, the two cops formulated an
escape plan and once out team up with Tango's Exotic Day.

(38:27):
You know, it was a better movie than this, Harley Davis.
Harley Davison, The Marlborough Man was a better piece of
shit than this. That was a better piece of shit.
If we're talking piece of shit duo cop movies, let's
fucking go there. You know, I'll watch that on fucking
repeat rather than Tango and Cash is blowing shit up.
You know what, don't mind blowing it up for the

(38:48):
reason to blow shit up, because his game a fuck
was never there. Dirty Harry, he did not. It's like
dirty Harry, he just blew.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Up a school. Yeah, fuck those kids, and then walks
away and you're like okay, don't megam no, but I
my desk.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
He's like, you'll get this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
You'll get it when I give it to you.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
If you go between Schwarzenegger and Stallone, I am the biggest.
I'm the biggest Schwarzenegger stand there is for it. Hell,
I have Conan's Atlantean sword, like I'm I'm a huge one.
And honestly, Predator is better than any Stallone movie out there.
You're You're absolutely right, but the the.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I think Stallone had better movie, had a better franchise
with Carl weathers mm hmm. But you have Jesse the
body Ventura involved in that movie as well, so there.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Was a making of The back stories behind that movie
are almost as entertaining as the movie itself. For like,
for example, Sunny Lundham, who played Billy, they had to
higher bodyguards so that the insurance would allow him to
be in that movie. Not bodyguards to protect him from

(40:02):
the other guys, but to protect everybody else from him,
because he was known for his short temper and one
of my favorite There are two there are two stories
about Predator that will live rent free in my brain forever.
And number one is that Jesse the body Ventura Machismo,
a mountain of machismo that he is, went to the

(40:24):
costuming lady and found out that Schwarzenegger's arms were one
inch smaller, his biceps were one inch smaller than Ventura's,
and so he casually brought up a arm measuring contest
to Schwarzenegger, and Schwarzenegger agreed. Now, Schwarzenegger is also known

(40:45):
to be a psychological manipulator of immense proportions to the
fact where he knew something like this was gonna happen,
he went to the consuming department and told them to
mark his arms one inch smaller than Ventura's. So when
they did the contest, he won by a whole inch

(41:06):
and blew everybody else away. Like that kind of manipulation,
because he talks about doing that kind of stuff to
luf Arigno when they would body build and he would
get inside people's heads. And then there was a there's
another one. They would talk about how every morning they
would get up and go to the gym to lift,
but they wanted to make it look like that they

(41:26):
had been there for a while, so they would get
up earlier and earlier each day, to the point where
they were going to the gym at two three in
the morning to start the day off, and and Carl
Weathers would go early, drench his shirt with water and

(41:47):
then wait for everybody else to show up to make
it look like that he had already been sweating so much.
Like you just you don't get that level of like masculine,
like like toxic masculinity in so that's a profound way anymore.
You don't have that anymore. And I relish those stories.
They're absolutely amazing, Like just the fact that they would

(42:07):
show up at three of them are to juste to
outlift each other at the gym.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
So we have another one for you. We have another
one for you, Paccino or de Niro.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Ooh, I'm a Pacino guy. Yeah, same here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I mean both of those eighty year old gentlemen are
expecting their second babies.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Right now. They are in with each other. They are
infective girlfriends.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
With women that you know for you know.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
No, no, Pacino has a forty five year old or no, no, no,
I'm sorry. De Niro has a forty five year old.
Pacino has a thirty eight year old.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh my god. Yeah, I mean, good for them. I guess.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, these are brave women. Okay, you know, very brave.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Very it's not gonna be is not gonna stop me
from watching Scarface for the infinite amount of time.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well that's another thing too, there, Joe. You know, Michael Corleone,
if you give him a Cuban accent is just Scarface.
If you give him a Columbian accent, it's Carlito's way.
And then if you give him a military background and
takeaway vision set up a woman uh throwing it out there.

(43:29):
The time that al Pacino, I think really flexed his
his uh, his his acting to a to a very
finite degree. Glen Garry, Glenn Ross, Fuck you give me
my fucking promotion, You owe me a Cadillac.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I also really enjoyed him in The Devil's Advocate too,
of course Devil's Advocate it was.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
It was very good. I think him and Keanu Reeves
carried a very Harry script all around, you know where
I think that if they didn't have those two and
you know what, more credit also goes to Charlie's Theren
where she put in the same amount of acting effort

(44:16):
that she did for Monsters Ball. Is that Monster's Ball No,
that's Holly Berry, right, yeah, mon monster, Yeah, I'm sorry monster.
She she put in that same that same effort and
believability was there the the structure of the narration with

(44:38):
Eddie Bazoon, you know, while he's running away from people
who now the audience knows their demons and that's a
tough shark to jump sort of thing where you're like,
by the way, the guy is the devil and you're like, okay,
what the why why does he have to Can he
just be a sleazy lawyer?

Speaker 2 (44:55):
No?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, no, he's got things moving behind him and shit,
they're like, we're gonna eat al Pacino. Yeah, we're gonna
need a lot more money than we think than you
think we need. That was probably a script that had
been shelved since the seventies, and because you can't just
put it out there, you know, it could be something big.

(45:16):
If put the right cast together on, if put the
wrong cast together on, you will make Ghostbusters three.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
What the fuck? I do have a theory? It just
popped into my head. Seven. The movie seven, yeah, right,
is a Saw movie.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
It basically is yeah, yeah, it's a type of It's
a type of Saw movie. Only the thing is Kevin
Spacey ends up molesting somebody on the set who's seventeen
years old, and you know that's where the real intense
scene starts going on. Kevin Spacey did find a way
to stay in his Baltimore City mansion though the person

(46:09):
that bought it from him, he just sucks their dick
every day and you know, stays there and you know,
rent free. It's kind of a perk. You know, the
guy is not even gay. He's just like, I mean,
how can I say no to a Kevin Spacey blowjop?
You know, it's just one of those things you don't
say no to. Speaking of things you don't say no to.
Spark He's got something there on the big board. He
did go around the world to go and get this shot.

(46:31):
Right now, Sparky flipped that board around there for Maybn. Hey, Robert,
what is with the vile? I am acting out a
part of a movie for my girlfriend. It's called The Jerker. Hey,

(46:53):
can I have one also? The Jerker very strong wrists
on these women, you know, very very strong strong wrists.
Some might you know, that's a masturbation, Joe. If he
didn't catch it, you know, just thrown it out there Joe,
So you'd go Pacino over Robert de Niro. Now, what

(47:15):
movie would you say was Pacino's Oh my God moment?
And by the way, in this answer, they both can't
be in the same movie.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, yeah, because he was. He was pretty damn.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Good because he basically, and you don't know Jack or
a Joe paternal movie. He basically played both characters the same.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
You know, I don't know. I love I love I
love Pacino. I loved Patino as the I mean I
of course I saw Devil's Advocate God young age. I
think it was in seventh grade when I saw it,
and I read the book and it was it was,

(48:01):
it was, it was. It had an effect on me.
So I think I think I have rose tinted glasses
for him in that role specifically.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Would you say that it's specifically just that that had
an effect on you?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Probably, I'm trying to think of other movies that he's
been just drawn blanks all of a sudden for it, Well.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
You know who's not shooting blanks? Both de Niro and
Pacino not doing that either. Their sperm is very good,
very very viable. There's a squirting and the fucking you
know Taxi Driver, Sparky.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
So good.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
And by the way, there is no slide against Robert
de Niro. He has had so many iconic roles it
is insane to just discount the idea that you could
not be us.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Good Fellas alone. Right, there is half of it right there.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Good Fella's raging bull taxi driver.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I mean, I think he did too many of those
Foker movies. But yeah, that was that would be a
dead horse. Was he in analyzed this? Was that him? Yeah?
He was. He was also in analyze that. Yeah, have
a sequel.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Oh what was that movie that he played in with
uh Dakota Fanning? No, no, no, he played the grand
bad grandpa.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, that wasn't terrible. It wasn't It wasn't good,
but it wasn't terrible. It wasn't awful. Not everything was bad.
The one of my favorite actors of all time, Paul Newman.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Uh, he's just good.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Just the natural ability for to uh to portray any character.
I mean him the color of money. With him and
Tom Cruise on screen, it was just the sting. I
mean yeah, I could give you the sting absolutely, you know, really,
you know another movie mm hmm. We had it down

(50:10):
the one day that Kevin Costner can only play a cop,
a lawyer, or a baseball enthusiast.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Good cop. I you know what controversial? I absolutely love
water World. You're a fucking idiot, Joe. That's it's it's
a guilty It's one of the guiltiest pleasures. But if
water World is on the TV, I'm hunkering down. Why

(50:40):
don't you have a job? Don't you have? That is
three hours long?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
He's an entrepreneurial.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I don't think I've ever finished it, but maybe once
or twice. I never make it through it, but I'm
always like, but if it's on Netflix, well there it is.
That's putting it on right there. Just in the background
that one. You're also talking to somebody who I was
walking through Walmart one day, have my noise canceling headphones in,
and I walk past that five dollars bin and I
see the Super Mario Brothers movie and I squealed so

(51:09):
loud that I that my headphones fell out.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Joe, if you had to summarize water World in twenty seconds,
could you do it?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Oh? Absolutely? The movie is a god awful waste of time, effort,
and materials and I love it to death.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
The plot, Joe, Oh, the plot, the plot spoiler alerts
too twenty all right, yeah, all right, all right, Jack Black,
one of his first roles, plays an airpline airplane pilot
in that movie.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It's about a man who is almost as selfish as
Kevin Costner is in real life playing him, and he
steals a little girl and her caretaker and convinces them
that land exists and then accidentally discovers it.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I Dennis Hopper, you're missing you're missing the big one.
You're missing the big one? Which one? Come on, I'll
give me a try, all right, yeah, go ahead, okay.
Kevin Costner is fine with there being water in the
world because spoiler alert, he's got gills. The end, well, yeah,

(52:22):
holy fu, yeah, he's got gills. He's a half fish
fucking person. Spoiler alert. He's a half fish person.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
That's still sir, water world you have now there you go,
you see, and that didn't take three hours.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
And when you're like, huh do they ever eat? Does
he ever have to use his gills to do anything
special in the movie? No, No, he doesn't, not at all,
not in the slightest In fact, just the opposite of it,
because he's fine on land, too, perfectly fine on land.
By the way, Hollywood, that's not how gills work. Okay,

(52:56):
you're either in the fucking water or you're not. You
have the ability to grow gills. You do not have
the ability to walk on fucking land and do whatever
you want.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
It's not a thing.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Evolution was just taken one day and they're like, maybe
throw gills on them. Because they didn't have a script.
Water World lots one hundred and three million at the theaters. Now,
this is a fucking movie that you could have literally
shot in.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
A pool with. They should have. They should have. So
that movie was wracked with so many bad So everybody
do they do sparking? Did they buy the Pacific Ocean? Like,
let's rented for like a month now.

Speaker 6 (53:36):
One everybody everybody lived on that a tool that they
built that that shitty ransact except for except for Constaner,
who would fly back to Hawaii and live in a mansion.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I thought he was flying back to Hawaii to do
that mailman bullshit, the postal man.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Somebody. The only amount, the only can tension I have
with water World specifically is that a friend of mine
said it was the aquatic version of Mad Max, and
I was yeah, I said, don't you dare combine, don't
you dare compare these movies because Mad Max is a
god send, Like that is a that is that is
a great movie. Water World is the op is the antithesis.

(54:20):
It is terrible, but I still love it, like like
Mario Brothers love that movie. It's god awful love it. Yeah,
I have an appreciation for the world's most terrible films.
I absolutely love them. I'm not good movies. Do you
like anything good? That that is you're talking to? You
are talking to somebody who went and saw Kung Paw

(54:42):
Enter the Fist twice in the theater.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Okay, Now that was not a Now that was a
movie that did not hide itself as anything but a parody.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Okay. True.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Water World was like, hey, we're one hundred and three
million dollars good in. Costner was the reason Nicholas Cage
did not be Superman. That is true, Sparky. We lost
a Nicholas Cage version of Superman because Kevin Costner. Yeah,
because Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner. Big shout out to your

(55:13):
to your ex wife on taking all of your money
and making sure you don't do water World two with it,
because when Kevin Costner gets up to a certain level
of money, he's going to do sequels of old movies
that were really bad.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
He Oh, is he with j Lo? Now? Is that?
What is that? What's going on? She just saw.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That going on.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
She saw his farmer's ten where his wedding ring used
to be, and was fucking turned on ray to you know,
latch out of that ship. Yeah, she went, she went
full taco madness on that bullshit. You know, she went
to She went Chimmy Changa all over that Costner cock
right that she went to.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Can you imagine Costner in any of her movies?

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, Jennifer Lopez had a.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Lot of Cell starring Kevin Costner.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
The Cell was a very good movie, underrated in in
a lot of different aspects it could have there were
there was room for improvement as well, But j Lo
had a movie career going on for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
She wasn't Anaconda. Yeah, so it was constantly forget half
the cast of that movie.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yea Anaconda could have was potentially going to.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Be a franchise right there. But after you the remaking
it now, so I guess it kind of works.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
After a while, you realize it's a stake though it
doesn't have any arms, right, you could just can't you
kill it? Can't you just shoot it? It's basically Tremors.
Remember Tremors. Love that movie, right, first Tremor perfect, great,
the second Tremor?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
What what's going on? Is it is Kevin Bacon in it? No? Well,
why they couldn't. They couldn't get Kevin Bacon and they
couldn't think of anything else to call them other than
what it's the third one? They called them as blasters. Yeah,
the Tremors movies. The Tremors movies aged like fine milk.
They're age like fucking they age like raw milk. And

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the fucking age like the age like Halloween movies. They
just keep getting worse.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Halloween movies were just ridiculous. Now, the first one was
new and no one has ever seen that kind before.
You know, the first one is one of my all
time favorite movies. I could go on complete, I could.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
I could do an entire like doctoral doctoral thesis about
why it's one of the best movies.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I think I think the I think what they did
was they borrowed a lot of subtleties that were in
Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah, oh yeah. They they went into it expecting it
to be like a carbon copy, like here, we're just
gonna make some money off of this real quick one.
But the way that they did it, because it kind
of like Jaws, where you know, they do a kill
at the beginning to show how serious it is, but
then there isn't another kill almost until like the forty
five minute mark for Halloween. The rest of it is

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just him stalking and you don't know when it's gonna happen.
And that's why, that's why I'm such a I'm I'm
not a big fan of the Robert Zombie or the
Robert Zombie Rob Zombie version because you're just inundated with
so much gore that you just desensitized to it by
you know, it doesn't really mean anything by the time
he gets I think.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I think, I think Rob Zombie went into a particular
lane of his own and Robert there's.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
A hill I will die on where I will say, like,
you know, with Rob Zombie's Halloween, you either love it
or you hate it. You know, he's got his fans,
but if he would have done a Texas Chainsaw massacre
movie instead. That is that is paint by the numbers,
his style, Like I.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Think, I think Rob's I think what I think?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
What's up? I think exactly what? So? What is it?
What is?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Basically? Uh, it's him undermining himself when doing a remake
and the fan base that he's had throughout the years
feels like they want to like it because his name's
attached to it. And that's when you kind of know
somebody's hitting the cell button on their own creativity when

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they've already reached the top and they're pressing their face
up against the window and people keep saying, what's next?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
What? What's next?

Speaker 3 (59:38):
This is why Quentin Tarantino is only doing one more movie.
It's going to be his last movie coming up. No
one even knows what it could be. There's very little speculation. Yeah,
he's got one last one to go and then he
is retiring. He's been doing it, he's been making films
over thirty five years now. Remember it was it feels
like it was just yesterday. He was that, you know,

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a young gun going to the sun Dance Film Festival
portraying and showing off reservoir dogs, and really he's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Not kill Bill. I hope it's not the next kill
Bill movie. It is, it is not. They are that
one that one's been floating around that he's been working
on a sequel to Kill Bill, basically where the little
girl from the first movie is now trying to kill
Uma Thurman.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I think this should make a kill Bill movie where
it's just David Quarantine jerking off in a closet. But uh,
you know, just for a whole hour and a half,
just and they don't show You don't have to show
the dick or anything. You can just show his face on
his struggles of trying to get off the rope, like
an hour and a half, you know, also known as
the last episode of Kung Fu Kung Fu you know,

(01:00:49):
Sparky loves that joke every.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Time, or like Kung Fu Kungsplu the final.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Brought to you by Craftsman Leather.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
So Joe, you do cosplaying? Who is your cosplay go
to character?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
I mostly UH do a Mandalorian okay from Star Wars.
I do Jedi, I do a couple of I do
a couple of Ghostbuster fully fledged Ghostbuster. Got my uh
franchise papers and everything for that one. Yeah. Yeah, I
do a lot of local conventions here here in Tallahassee.

(01:01:32):
Sometimes Dragon con up in Atlanta. You know, it depends
on where it is. Orlando a lot that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
When you kind of break down Ghostbusters, I guess they're
they're the idea and how to get ghosts into a trap?
Was nuclear power.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Packs, unlicensed, unlicensed nuclear accelerators. Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
The more you rewatch it, you're like, you know, the
environmental protection guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I was totally right, Walter, pet was so right. That
was That was one of the funniest things is because
you know, when we were kids, we loved the movie.
We you know, I was one when that movie came out.
I was raised on Ghostbusters and the cartoon, and then
I when I rewatched it as an adult, I went,

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oh my god, these guys are not role models. Like
Peter Benkman goes on a first date with one hundred
milligrams of Thorizen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Like Dykes, way way way before that, right now, Peter
Vankman decides to convince Dan Akroyd's character to spend his
grandmother's inheritance money real mortgages.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Three mortgages on an old firehouse and ship to catch
ghosts that, by the way, they're pretty sure aren't real.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
And it's scammy. The whole the whole setup is scammy.
Mm hmm. Oh yeah, He's got a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Lot of Egan's got a lot of kind of science
behind it. Bankman, total fraud, total con man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Big time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
He probably got kicked out of New York, had to
con his way into being a weatherman in Pittsburgh, where
then he had to relive the same day over and
over and over again to realize. And by the way,
you only have to relive that day over and over
and over again until you openly admit what a piece

(01:03:29):
of shit you actually are. And it took him how
many days to figure that shit out? Yep, he couldn't
openly admit it. And then he's like, you know, I'm
gonna spend my time trying to fuck Adam McDowell, and
God's looking down saying he is not getting this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Didn't they say that in order to be able to
achieve everything that he mastered in that movie, like playing
the piano, and didn't they say it was like what
ten thousand years that he did a lot of time
something like that. Oh yeah, now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
There is something really really interesting that just came on
the Jimmy Kimmel Show the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
And it was, uh, what's her name from? From Ghostbusters?

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Then Weaver, No, not Sigourney Wes any pots, any pots,
any pots? Something about her daughter does acting now And she.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Ran into uh uh think of the yeah freaking what's
his name? In the in the dressing room and she
was talking about him and his time I guess on
the set and they they talked about how they were single,
uh single now and they were always looking for love

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and uh, she was trying to hook him up with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Hooked them up together, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
But they always hated each other, like hated each other
on set.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
M what's hmm, it's a it's it's real tricky. They
you know, they didn't They did the sequel, Ghostbusters too,
and nobody wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Nobody wanted to. Well this is hard for which is
hard for a guy, a diehard Ghostbusters fan like myself
to hear. But I get it, like nobody expected it.
They didn't have a script when they started. Nobody was
into it. They kept coming back to be like, what's
the pig slide. What's this old new script?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Oh boy, I feel like they they didn't need to
still be Ghostbusters. They could have all separated, done their
own solo stuff, kind of like the Beatles, and then
got back together for a reunion concert kind of thing
in a different location, not in New York City, maybe Chicago,

(01:05:49):
right the But then again, we're dealing with Hollywood and
the money machine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
They knew that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
They're already like a diticipating it's gonna sell toys and
not make any any plot sense at all. Spark he
flipped that big board around there, my man, as the
board slowly turns.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
So, anyways, let me elaborate a little wait wait, wait, no, there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
It goes all right, is I'm going to sell energy
to Europe and make trillions? Okay, hit it? Hey, where's Madonna?

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Yea, the ghosts of Madonna's vagina?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah, that's where they come out of, right there, the
Tony what were you elaborating from?

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I'm sorry there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
So anyways, Uh Andy McDowell, who shared the set with
her for for with Bill Murray, of course, uh they
hitted each other so bad. But Andy McDowell Dowell's daughter,
who just came out in that interview Margaret Quality. She

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was talking about setting them up together now because I
guess they're both single, but she didn't know how much
of a few that they had on that set.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
And really each other.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Oh, Bill, Bill Murray is very He's got a cult
like popularity to him, but really really difficult person to
work with and very you know, very pompous.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Well his Bill Murray. His talent does not exceed his arrogance. Yes,
Bill Murray has been chasing uh An Oscar for almost
his entire life and generally doesn't want to do movies
now because I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I don't because I don't disagree with you there. He
played F d R poorly and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
All these Wes Anderson films because they're all just Oscar bait.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Wes Anderson needed two films and then the rest to
be irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Yeah, because when you when you're doing that style and
everybody's like, oh, well, this is something new, and then
you do it again, you're like, well, okay, I like
the first one, Let's see if we do another one
like this, that's fine. And then when he does a
third one, same kind of style, you should start to
say to yourself, Oh so this is all he does.

(01:08:29):
The person who needs to be most admired for a
original script to one degree or another, as gritty as
it was portrayed in real time, to one degree or another.
D MX for the movie Belly was And if you've
never seen it, yeah, I would suggest see it. You know, real,

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real gritty, real kind of chopped in, chopped up. This
was his first movie ever and he never it out
a second movie because he felt like he put enough
into that movie alone. Where if the saying is true
that everyone in the world has one great book to write,

(01:09:12):
then your second book is going to be much worse
than your first. And not to say don't write a
second book or whatever, don't write a sequel, just playing
the odds sort of thing. The sequel's empire strikes back
when it comes to Star Wars. Outstanding Return of the
Jedi was in reference to Anakin Skywalker's brief return while

(01:09:34):
being alive for that period of time when he's being
you know, watched by his son, who you know, he's
he's done all this for.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
He's done all this just to prevent his culmination. So
I'm one of those few people that actually prefers return
to the Jedi over Empire.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
See, I think reason the movies now, I think they're
very different movies. Yeah, Empire is very empire. You can't
have Return if you don't have Empire. Empire is dark.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, that's where he gets dark.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, Empire gets real action based. You know, fucking hand
is cut off. You know, it's the Two Towers but
in space. Yeah, basically, and then you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Return of the Jedi is like, eh, you know there's
puppets here. That's why. That's why I love Return of
the Jedi. I have this whole spiel I do basically
where it's like, why do I love Return of the
Jedi so much? Because of the Ewoks. The Ewoks are
the scariest thing in the entire Star Wars universe and

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people people don't realize it because they see cute little
teddy bears and I say no, no, And for like
at least three reasons number one, within five minutes of
being on this planet, they capture a a rebel general,
a Wookie knowing for their war your prowess, a Jedi.

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They the Empire has been trying to catch these assholes
for five years, and they catch them in three minutes
with a goddamn net, like they're profound hunters. And then
when they're told, you just you just named the biggest
problem with that. They caught them with a net, a net,
you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Say an immediate problem with that, and like, I'm stuck
in a net. Well looks like I'll just sit here
in the net.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
And it worked. And then they're taking them to the
Ewok village and they put them on a pyre to
roast them alive. They don't even mercy kill these people.
They're singing songs while they're starting fires. That's dark as fuck.
And then they in the original version, they never blinked,
and I don't trust any creature that doesn't blink. That's

(01:11:48):
just wrong. And then they just happen to have clothes
that fit Princess Leah, which means they've got a wide variety,
which means they've done the humans. And theiggest tell, The
biggest tell is that when the Empire fights that he
walks on the Battle of Endor, they didn't have time
to set all those big traps with the big logs

(01:12:10):
and everything, which means that those were already set, which
means they hunt giant creatures for food and for sport already,
So that's another thing you gotta think about. Hey, he
lived up in the trees. They don't have graveyard burials,
so they either eat the dead he walks, or they
just push him off the fall to the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Nah, dude, no no, no, no, no no, I'll get
you that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
The biggest gangster in the galaxy. And Tony can agree
with me on this one or disagree whatever you'd like.
Tony Obi Wan Kenobi all right, biggest gangster in the
in the galaxy. When we learn more about Obi Wan, right, dude,
straight up Celsio Path. Right, so he's a total dick,
Celcio Path. He's out of his fucking gord. He goes

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Luke Skywalker's fucking He's like, hey, my name's Luke Skywalker.
And he looks at him, you know, and you know,
before we know, we know, it's just a gaze and
you're like, oh wow, maybe they're gonna mentor each other.
He looks at him like killed your dad. All right, Well,
let's see if I can use you to help me out.

(01:13:19):
Need some help on this one. And then dude, he
still he still has Luke to his bidding because he's
a fucking forest ghost and he's like, keep doing ship
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Like, what the fuck's He's almost as bad as Mickey.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Is became a forest ghost as well. He became a
forest ghost. Yeah, everybody got their forest ghosts in the
seventies for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
We we gotta wrap it up there, Joe, We have
to wrap it up there. My man has got another thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Hey, Ben, how are you going to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
One of the content most controversial movies of all time?
From the Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
From a certain point of view.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
From from certain points of view, you start from the
very beginning with a magical wizard that can do absolutely
fucking anything with magic except to get a tiny sized
human where he can control birds. Yeah, moss, uh, fucking

(01:14:38):
any type of animal in general.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
He brings a horse.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
To the settlement where he's at and he says, no,
you need to make this journey and you better walk there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
It's a dick move. It's a dick move.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
You are you are?

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
You are one thousand percent correct on that, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
He probably twenty minute journey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
You can fly in the back of a butterfly and
we'll go and drop that that that little freaking ring off.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
And that's like a volcano.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
That's a Gwendolen move right there, you know, like because
he could say he could do a big shortcut, you know, like, hey,
you know okaing right this way, Get on the bird,
we'll ride, We'll ride there. Anything will fly or I
don't know, maybe give me the ring and I will
just fly there and throw it in the volcano.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Yeah, or at least give the hobbits and shoes. They're
gonna be walking miles across Blava. They need something valid point,
valid point. You know what they were missing in that
movie out there? They were missing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
You know, they were missing in that movie a world
full of water and gills on their fucking selves for
no apparent reason. That's what they're That's what they're missing.
I mean, I'm sure, Kevin. I'm sure Kevin Costner walks
out of all movies like that, like why isn't there
any water and gills and shit?

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Walks in the hire an entire Lord of the Rings
remake where Kevin Costner plays every character.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Now an entire Lord of the Ring remake, where fucking
Kevin Costner complains that it's not movies that have the
same plot references as his You know, like, wait a second,
why aren't they disappearing before they get to the cornfield?

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
And he keeps dropping whatever accident he has for each character. Yeah, Barkie,
what you got?

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
What throw that thing around?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Man? What do you got?

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Trainers of less smarter people? Anonymous? So what did you
say to the boys?

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know karate kids. Mister Miyagi also
is guilty of this bullshit as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Wash my car. He's like washing my car crying. If
he would have spent more, if he would have spent
more time teaching the Maxwell karate, then the then the
karate Kid wouldn't have won with the you know what,
do you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Mister Miyagi's like big words of wisdom war when it
came down to crunch time, and you know, LaRusso is
getting his asked.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Mister mister, what do I do?

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I keep getting killed out there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
He's like, I don't know. Come in the face.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
He does, and the reps are like, I guess that wins,
because that was that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
He kicked the kid in the face. That was great.
Oh now I want a movie where Mick trains the
karate kid.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, he would never because the
Karate kid doesn't have any money for him. The greedy bastard,
you know Karate he'd been like kid, he had nothing
and without giving me money.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Bike, I'll take your bike. I'll tell that bike.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
I mean, let me hold your wallet. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
It's given a mixed superpowers now Chase to show what
I like the idea that Burgess Meredith played the penguin
in the Batman movie and then moved to Gotham, or
moved from Gotham to to Philadelphiachase then became the trainer
of Rocky when all his money ran out burchase Meredith.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
God, what if he was Burgess Meredith the trainer of
Rocky as the penguin.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Burgess Meredith's biggest Twilight Zone was using books as instead
of currency because everything else he was a greedy scumbag in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
That because of the the Twilight Zone episode that he
was in. Yeah, all he wants to do is just
read books.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
He wants the whole world just gone so that way
he can read in peace and quiet. And then he
breaks his glasses twist right there, you know, which, by
the way, is still a better twist than gills on your.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Throwing it out there. I'll give you that. I'll give
you that one for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Slightly, you know, all right, Tom, we got to wrap
it up right, my man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Yes, Marky, Where can you find us? If you were
looking for us?

Speaker 8 (01:19:21):
You can find us on every single major streaming platform
including iHeart, Google, Spotify, Speaker, Deezer Cast, Backs, pocket Cast, Geo, Rio, Book,
Cloud Video YouTube, the Amazon Prime, and coming.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Soon to Roku.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Me me, we are coming soon, working, we are getting there, Joe.
This episode will be on Roku TV. So tell your friends,
tell your family that you will be onto Roku TV,
and uh, you know, if they are disappointed at your
performance of defending water World and other such crap movies,
I'll die, yeah, man, I'll die that underwater hill right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
There between Underworld and uh Running Man, I don't know.
I don't think we could talk anymore, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Oh No, definitely, definitely, I'll defend I'll defend I won't
defend under Underworld. That one's a terrible one. It is
what it is. It is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
Joe, thank you very much for coming on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Of course, I absolutely blast. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
We are glad you enjoyed. Was it everything that was said.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
That it was supposed to be any any time I
get to come on and bullshit about movies is a
perfect day. So I love it. I'll be are anything
you guys want.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
And Joe Unlicia weren't offended by anybody saying like you're
a fucking crazy bastard for like a water World.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah, it carry the first time anyone's ever said that
to you. And I'm like, oh no, no, anytime I
mentioned water World, they hit me with sticks. It's fine.
People probably drop drop their babies. What did you say?
It was a good movie. It was good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Your your baby's over there drowning. She doesn't need to
hear this, you know, she doesn't need to live in
a world where somebody thinks that water World was a
good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Let her let her drown. Let her do that now.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Oh yeah, guys, thank you very much for watch. Make
sure you tune in every Monday ten to fifteen Eastern
Standard time. I'm Tony Kaz Devin Nary here. Of course
you ever love him? Picasso ls Parquet, Yeah there he is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
We'll catch you next week. We have more interview with
more people.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
It's what we do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Have a great night.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
He