The podguyz podcast with corissa and andrew pierson

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, Kevin, you were blessed by the touching of
the buttons.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Oh yeah, all the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Right, we push the buttons, they start the movie, they
start the starting credits.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah boo.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
The podcast podcast. Hello everybody, I'm Tony.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Kaz Kevin Neary.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Here, of course, we have the ever loving Picasso, Uh,
the Dreamer of the Small Cinema, Lespark.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
And Sparky says Hi. Now we are one a little
early today. We're about forty minutes early today. We are
testing out a little bit of a new time slot.
That's why we didn't post anything on Facebook and a
bio on at ten pm. Also, we didn't post that
we were going to be on at nine pm either,
or my sleep schedule would have been a little bit

(00:55):
better off. I don't really have a sleep schedule, Tony.
I just get two hours here, three hours there. I'm
on what you call the crystal met sleep schedule, where
you just you just wake up randomly in hotspot places
and you're just like, holy shit, we're doing this again,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, at least you're in your house. That's that's
kind of a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Isn't my house?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean I just found a microphone. I mean, I'm
just you know, I'm rolling with this. We got some
guests on today. It's this husband and wife. I'm just
realizing you guys have the same last name there. That's good, right,
you would be.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Correct in that, sir is the the beautiful and sensuous
uh Andrew and Carissa Pearson.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I like how I was first, So I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
The A comes before C. You know they uh, some
salespeople like to like to put the women's name first
because they're they're like, you know, like just so you
know this is her decision. It's like, wow, man, you know,
I'll dare you. That's not I'm dare.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Helping you today.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
There's none none at all. Are you guys in the
same house right now? Is that what's going on?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah? We are. I'm upstairs in like the studio. Yeah,
this is down to be is. We've tried it before
and she's always up here and I'm down here and
it looks weird. She looks like she's my agent when
we're doing a podcast, so we separated ourselves in.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's a smart idea. It's just it's a really smart idea.
I like it. It's you know, it's it's better instead
of having a shared square like some people do, the
shared Facebook profile, you know, or the whole shared Facebook
like we're just gonna have a together Facebook. Have you
seen that together Facebook?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's a aggressive way of doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I think it's a very strange thing. I think I
always think that somebody got beat up in that relationship.
Whenever I see that happening, you know where, it's just like, yeah,
it's it feels.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Like it's out the window with that. What can we say,
get your.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Own Facebook's It's fine, It's totally fine if one of
if one of us are gonna, you know, do anything
as far as cheating or beating, I mean, probably not
a good time. Anyways, Tota, I'm dealing with a little
bit of lag here right now.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
You are on your side, sir.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, what the hell? Terrible zoom.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hopefully, hopefully it clears itself out. But anyways, Carissa Andrew,
you guys are working on a new movie, of course,
so we'll get the business out of the way. What
are you working on? What are you crab funding for?

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I love Carissa do all the talking.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm just an actor, yeah, sunt man actor stuntman actor.
What I'm just.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, everybody likes to go to Andrew. They think he
knows everything about the movie and he does everything with
the movie. But what they don't realize is that, unfortunately,
you have to have a crew and you have to
have a lot of other people in regards to that.
So we're currently working on A Soldier's Descent and that's
what we're currently working on right now. We're currently in

(03:55):
the pre production aspect of it, and we're doing our funding.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Now, what is the play by play? How does that work?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
The play by play in what aspect.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
In the aspect of crowd funding to start up the
beginning part instead of just going out there going on
podcasts and saying that we're funding the Before that all
that all happens.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, before all that happened, we got a script from
Phil Hermon and it wasn't called A Soldiers Decent. Andrew
and I worked on creating the title for our project.
It was called Barney and and.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, hold on, now I like that name. I had
this theory that everyone.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
A purple dino. I'm sorry I didn't like the name
of it.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, I have this theory that every guy. Every person,
every male looks like a Barney or could be a Barnie,
you know, so it's really easy to cast for. Is
the guy's name Barney in the in the movie? Or no?
Did you just scrap the whole thing? No?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, I didn't scrap it. I kept the I kept
Barney's name. I kept his name.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Does Andrew Barney? Does Andrew play Barney?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yes, it's such a it's such a good name to
cast too, because literally, anyone could be a Barney.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's a fat guy's name. Is the skinny guy's name,
it's a medium sized, muscular guy's name. Now, tell us
about Barney. What does he up to in this movie?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
So basically, in this movie, Barney gets deployed and he
we it's a fictional film, and he is deployed during
the Iraq aspect. He goes out and he's gone for
a good year, probably a little bit more than that.
In the middle of all of that, he gets captured,

(05:47):
which you get to see that during the movie. Judy,
his wife is it believes that he's dead. He finally
comes back to civilization, to the civilian world, and that.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
In the movie What's that.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Who she played by?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
In the movie Leonora Schelfo from Scream. She played the
cheerleader in the original Scream. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's
the one that plays my wife in the movie Ship.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Now, I'm just gonna assume that she moves on with
her life romantically. So how long has Barney assumed to
be gone?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
You know, about a year missing?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, all right, well that's that's gonna You know, if
it was like two weeks and you're.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Like, I don't know if he's coming back, you know,
so you should just Andrew.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Maybe I would wait for you. She starts crying. She's like,
the worst part about it, his name is Barney. Could
never take him seriously about party.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, it's literally two yeah, two weeks, and you're like, hey,
today that might actually happen. We're talking about Desert Storm
nineteen ninety one a little different.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Dare people really did wait back then? Now they'll just
be like, oh, I haven't heard from you and done.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know. I mean, if they now, it could
have been a lot easier to cheat back then too.
There's a lot less technology too.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
The only way my dad got caught Tony, Okay, the
only way my dad got caught is because the sneaky
neighbor across the street was watching him bang out the
neighbor too, so like holy crap, right, Like that's the
only way he got caught is because one old man
you know, was watching and.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Then he was up because he wasn't getting a little
maybe maybe.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I mean this was this was before the invention of Viagara,
so yeah, no big, no big deal there. So Barney
is gone for a year, the woman moves on with
her life because he's assumed to be dead, and then
he Uh, that's a that's got to be a shocking scene,
right there? Is that a? Is that an emotional scene

(07:58):
when he realizes that his life is no longer his
life anymore even though he thought he'd get right back
to it.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, that's that is a big piece with the movie.
You get to feel that pain that Barney feels and
the pain that actually Judy feels too, because it's like surprise,
I'm back, and uh you moved on?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now? Is the guy that she moved on from Barney
with better looking or or what is it?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
You know she looks pretty good?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did she get like a Barney two point zero? You know,
because you don't.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Zach Zach Vasquez, a friend of mine, plays Kevin, who
she moved on with. He he's he's actually younger than me.
I'm an old man, believe it or not, I don't
look like it. I'm an old man.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Listen, when you move on from a Barney to a Kevin,
it's always an upgrade. I'm sorry, Barnie, just throwing it
out that one no name bias.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I'm just uh, Zach does look good. He does look good.
I played with him an Alien Horde and in Clown
Motel three, so yeah, him and I worked together before
an He's a fantastic actor and he does look good.
So that's something that look good.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I think the I think the reason people hear crowdfunding,
they were normally the knee jerk reaction is get your
own money. You guys are Hollywood stars. What's wrong with you?
And that's not even close to being the truth, am
I right?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, that's totally right. I think a lot of I
think a lot of the negative comments and a lot
of the hate is just unwarranted because people just don't
understand independent filmmaking and they don't understand what goes behind that.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean literally just to film the movie. It's probably
twenty five to thirty thousand just to film the movie.
Oh yeah, not even not even like when we have
our celebrities on their post production locations. I mean you're
just talking a lot of movie one hundred to one
hundred and fifty thousand for decent movie. That would you know,

(09:58):
world can't limited theater distribute one hundred and one hundred
and fifties a bootstrap decent indie movie.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, especially bootstrap is right, because especially if you want
to meet the minimal standard of slam Dance or a
sun Dance film festival budget, it has to be I think,
what is it forty thousand now or what is.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
It now to Yeah, I think it's forty fifty.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's a lot of casually. Back in the early nineties eighties,
you know, these film festivals that are well known now
used to just be okay, get in here's you know,
a thousand dollars entry fee. Put any movie at like
up there. And as they became more popular and you know,
bigger actors, it's kind of like the third party candidate
in these elections talking smack on the two parties, and

(10:42):
all they want to do is become the two parties anyways,
you know, they want to eventually be a bigger thing
than what they are. So the film festivals, I think
it was during those those Tarantino early nineties Reservoir Dog
big you know, box office pop movies where they're like,
wait a second, we just gave these guys how much
free promotion? How and there's some stars in here too,

(11:05):
maybe we jack up the price. And they were, you know,
in their defense, they were getting rid of a lot
that of a lot that shouldn't have been. There a
lot of low, low quality movies where you have critics
not even wanting to go to grade these movies because
they know that they have to sift through a lot
of crap and I mean a lot of crap where

(11:25):
you're like, well, why would we waste our time coming here?
So it's kind of a win win, but man, that
minimal budget is tough to me, just especially like if
you can make a movie full of volunteers and the
acting is great, you don't need any special effects really,
and you're just you're just there for the for the
scene by scene and the portrayal and the as the

(11:46):
storyboard and folds itself and you could do it for
like ten grand. Those are the movies that aren't getting seen.
Have you guys ever made something like that recently where
you said to yourself, oh my god, you know, we've
got such a small budget and this looks really good, good,
but it just doesn't cut it financially to get in
the h and the one of major film festivals.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
We haven't, but I've been part of it. I mean,
I do a lot of horror, so horror can be
everywhere from going on YouTube all the way up to
I have movies that are be in the theater at
the end of the year, so it's literally everything in between.
And I always and everyone's like, Andrew, you'll never put
yourself on a cult thing like a you know, a
toy dollar movie or something crazy like that. I do.

(12:31):
You know that there's just a spectrum of horror, and
there's people that follow those cult movies, so you know,
it's crazy, not too but I've seen what people could
do with ten thousand dollars. It's amazing. I mean it's
not quality enough to be in a theater, I don't think,
but it's phenomenal. I mean it's stuff that people would
watch at home. You know on to B or you know,
probably Amazon Prime and some of the filmmakers we know

(12:54):
are amazing at stretching nothing and you've seen some stuff,
but together we've also seen some stuff that's not good.
But I have a lot of friends that I've been
a part of. Bill Herman as an example, he's the
writer of for a Soldier's Descent. He can take five
thousand dollars making. I mean, I watched it. She sent
me a screener for one of his movies and he's like, Andrew,
this is what a five thousand dollars budget movie looks like.

(13:16):
And I'm like, okay, I'll watch it. And I watched it.
I'm like and I'm like, okay. I was like, Phil,
this is actually really good because the acting was probably
a lot better than I would ever imagined. The camera
work was good, the editing was good, the lighting was
you know, they probably used a little bit of lighting
and places on it. But the sound wasn't bad. I

(13:38):
mean it was I was like, Wow, this is really
good for literally no budget. So it's possible in the
world that we're in, we see it. It's just with
a Soldier's Descent, you know, the story itself. It's a horror,
but it's a fictional horror, which they all are. And
then it's based on real life topics, which has almost

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never been done in a respectful in a respectful way,
at least it's not you know, someone in an army
uniform go around killing people. It's not. It's not like
it's not satirical in any way, shape or for him.
It's real life. So this is the first time's kind
it's done in a respectful way. And we actually have
veterans on producer and uncast, which is crazy too, because

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we weren't sure if we never attract him, and they've
been coming to us.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh you know when they're doing a little bit too much,
too much with the movie, when when the character development
runs into uh more box checking. And I'll explain myself, Man,
I hate this fucking lagging thing right now. It's really
annoying me. I apologize for everybody watching, but the audio

(14:42):
is going to be fine. So and when I say
box checking, I'll call Disney box checking. W'ere say the
guy gets Barney, he gets home, Oh my god, his
life is ruined. He ends up drinking himself and his
friend says, you know, he's ends up drinking himself into
a bar turns out to be a gay bar. Turns
out Barney realizes he's gay. Oh my god, the whole
time he's gay now, and then throughout the movie he says,

(15:05):
you know what, he really needs a sex change the
whole time. Oh my god. Now he's just now he's
fighting all these different things about himself out. Do you
ever feel when you're watching a movie they're lapping more
onto the character, the main character, where you're like, hah,
this is a completely different person now, and it feels forced.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
If you're looking at big Hollywood studios nowadays, everything's for
the most part, very careful. Everything doesn't matter if it's
a horror movie an action movie.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's careful.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah, And there's no serious topics. I mean, a Hollywood
studio would never touch a serious production that's horror, especially
with the topics that we have. Veteran PTSD, suicide, domestic violence,
substance abuse, those are all things that come with it.
And we didn't make that up. That's stuff that our
veterans told us. But at a in a major Hollywood production,

(16:01):
you know, they're like, we're gonna be very careful we
can't offend anyone, we can't do it, and it's very
watered down nowadays. If you compare movies to like back
in the eighties and nineties, especially when we're gonna get
horror genre, it's a lot different nowadays, except I did
like Sinners that just came out. Sinners was an absolutely phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
That looks awesome.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
It is great. In every aspect of that movie is great.
It's well done, it's over the top, it's it's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
So I was Andrew, I want to interject on that
a little bit because I think a lot of folks
don't realize. But in the independent film industry, you know,
there's room for everyone and room for all ideas.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And with that said, like Andrew mentioned, the Bigger, the
Big Boys, Blue House, Sony, MGM, they're not going to
give the room light, give light in the room for
the PPSC for what it really looks like to portray

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what the character's truly going through. And it's not going
to be boring because the scary part, guys is you
could be sitting right next to somebody that's actually going
through it and you don't even realize it. And don't
even realize how close you are to being close to
death that that person snaps. And that's what we're going

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to show some of that aspect.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
But I love water it down.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's a That's a perfect explanation right there, Chris, and
you have one of the toughest jobs when it comes
down to it. You're producing. Now. People see the words,
you know, producer, executive, producer, but they're seeing it whenever
they're watching a big, a million, a multi billion dollar,
multimillion dollar budget movie, where these could just be symbolic titles,

(17:51):
so to speak. But you, as a independent producer, you're
doing everything. You're finding the director, you're finding the actors,
you're getting locations down, you're telling people to get locations down.
You're watching people fail and succeed all at the same time.
Could you tell us a little bit about that?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I actually can. I mean, I just had a
conversation this week talking to someone that wanted one of
our roles that we haven't filled yet and just pretty
much ripped ripped me to shreds with his unsolicited feedback.
And it's tough to take, you know, as a producer,
because you need to hear what people have to say

(18:32):
and then go back and take a look and do
some self reflection to make sure you're on the right track.
And it's tough, you know, from trying to figure out
it to We started looking at the script back in
October and I found our director Andrew and I did
Gusrie Lowe has a lot of experience with WORE and

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can set up the frames and and and really bring
you into the character. And with that said, working on
the script since October, we've ripped that baby apart and
we've taken it and have built more character development in it.
And like you said, you know, you reference how sometimes
the characters go off on this journey that you're like,

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how in the world did homosexuality get in here? Or
how in the world is this get in here? You know,
you have to take a look at what is the
fourth theme of your film? What is the fourth theme
of your project? And what are you trying to get
people to walk away from? And as a producer, you
have to really look at that and make sure that
you are sending the right message and giving somebody something

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entertaining so that they're not bored.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's a big one.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, Yeah, attention grabbing is definitely definitely a thing. I mean,
I've been doing stand up comedy for fifteen years now,
and you know, if if you don't get them within
the first i'd say eight or ten seconds, you're going
to lose some of the audience out there, you know,
unless they're all on you know, pills that are forcing
them to pay attention where they're just like that, and

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you're like, that helps the.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
First thirty seconds of this show in general. And then
we bring out Sparky with a picture and we're like, hey,
you know, check this out. And then we point over
to Sparky and he just turns around his board and
he shows what it's on there.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Sparky, there you go. Look at that hint right there.
Run it. Run of this Godzilla with a machine gun.
I shoot you, you hate me? You're gonna be killed
by Barney.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
That okay, So it's what I think what's going on there, How, Sparky,
that is a much thinner version of Barney the Dinosaur,
or a depiction of whatever Barney the die.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
It looks like he's holding a sod Off shotgun right there. Uh,
what is the orange?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Is the alien figure from from a Purple Alien? It's
very good.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's kind of a that was kind of a creepy show.
Back in the day.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
There was my way clearly on mac and cheese, like.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
There was there was no there was like no kids
show back in the day that that didn't have a
creepy element to it. I remember being a kid and
watching mister Rogers and he was just like, hey, hey,
you want to be my neighbor. I think you're a
special guy. And I'm like, wow, this is pedophernilia right here. No, thanks, pal,

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I'm good. You know, I'd walk I'd walk away from
the TV. I'd walk back into the room and he'd
be like, I saw you coming in there, and I'm like,
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, next door neighbor is changing his sweater getting into
his freshly freshly torn loafers.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Let alone. If you are mister Rogers neighbor, you're always
getting your male late because he's playing piano with mister mcpheely,
and you're just.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Like you can hear the neighbors to Hatchie Malachi.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
You could. You could hear the piano music going on,
Like the fuck is my male? I have stuff to
do today?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
You got you gotta But what's his name Bob Ross
right down the road.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Bob Ross. No, that's a that's an artist right there.
Remember when donnae Hu was giving Bob Ross the ship
and he was like, you'll never be Picasso, You'll never
be just just tell just know that you will never
be showing the museums. It's like, dude's got an afro
and a smile on his face. Get fucked down at you.

(22:23):
That was his ground break, that was groundbreaking? Was that?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Edge cutting or groundbreaking news back in the day that
Bob Ross is never going to be in a museum?
Got almighty? Where do we come from? Do you guys
remember that? You guys remember the nineties? Right, You're not unfamiliar.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm an old man, so I definitely okay.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah. So you keep saying that what is your your
your secret to the longevity of youth?

Speaker 4 (22:51):
How old do I look like? I'm in my thirties? Though?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I well you do listen now, I would I'd say,
I'd say forties, solid forties right there. I would say,
you're I'm thirty nine, Tony. Come on, you know it
looks better than you. He looks better than me, I'm saying.
I would say he looks more appealing than I do.
But I wouldn't say he looks younger, though, I would say,

(23:14):
if you're casting, you could definitely go Andrew from thirty
seven to to like a forty five area. If you're
past forty five, you got to tell him to take
off his hat and dust up the hair with a
couple of grays here and there. Just oh yeah, just
to share sort of thing. But now, when it comes
to casting, I mean, that's you want them to look

(23:34):
like a character. You want them to look like the
character you're you envisioned. In some movies and in other movies,
there's a lot of flexibility. It's it gets very it
gets very insensitive in some environments when when it comes
to casting. You know, I used to wear glasses. Whenever
I'd go out for a casting call and i'd have

(23:55):
glasses on, they would say, oh, we're not casting any
nerds or countants, and this one sort of thing, very
thin frame to myself. So you know, you get type
casted as the skinny, nerdy guy. And if I didn't
have my glasses on, they'd say, you know, it'd be
great if you had glasses, we'd be able to cast you.

(24:16):
No problem. It's like, dude, I can put them on
right now. No, no, no, no, we already found somebody too late,
too lay right now. But have you, guys, ever found
yourself where you want?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
You?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
You wanted to cast somebody to look a certain way,
and you kind of passed on somebody because they didn't
look the way that you wanted them to.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Carissa, you're the casting director, not I know, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's not a bad thing. Listen, the answer is supposed
to be yes. Of course, it's supposed to be yes
every time. It's supposed to be yes.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's that's where casting is. I mean you you you
are literally you don't look the part. You look the part.
You're bro I mean, that's that's that's you know.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. I've actually have
had trouble with this area because the reality is I'm
casting for certain ages to fit certain roles. And yeah,
if you look like you are trying to tell me
that you can fit a twenty year old and you
look like you're fifty, I'm sorry. A lot of women

(25:28):
can have Women have come to me like I really
want to be in your movie. I'm like you don't
fit the age group I'm looking for, and no matter
what I do to change your makeup, your hair, it's
not going to work. It happened the same with a
couple of gentlemen that I talked to and had great conversations,
but they just didn't have the personality, the projection, that.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Narrative sometimes where it's just like, look, I know you're
you're anxious, you're eager, you're ready to do this part.
I think we're going to take a hard path, just
not not the age.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Of If you're making a cake and the ingredients call
for brown sugar and not powdered sugar, you go for
the brown sugar of every brand first, and then let's
compromise from that point. If it's just if it calls
for if it calls for that, in my opinion, it's

(26:25):
when it comes to eight. How many times have we
seen a thirty year old playing a high schooler and
everyone thinks it's hilarious. Nowadays where you're like, oh my god,
that's obviously these are obviously twenty and thirty year olds
and they're all in high school and and they're delivering
lines to perfection where they say, but we can't because
my dad will let me out. It's like, sir, are

(26:46):
you sure you're not a dad? All right?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
You look like you.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
What the hell I've seen I've seen it have before, Tony,
where it's like a group of high school girls who
I would say half of them would have probably done
porn and you know it, and you're like, not, you know,
good at porn or whatever, but like, holy shit, two
of them are porn stars already. That kind of that

(27:14):
and those people that are if your cast is too
good looking, my theory, if your cast is too good looking,
you're acting is going to take a dive because these
people are relying on their looks to get parts, and
they get parts no problem. I mean, Andrew, you're and
Carissa you know, you guys are both appealing looking people,

(27:36):
but you don't but you don't rely on that to
get by. You know the type that I'm talking about,
the ones that look like they came from you know,
the the the molding of plastic surgery. And you're like,
are you sure you're thirty? It's like, yeah, yeah, you know,
I've always just had this, you know, uh.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
One hundred percent of Greek Kevin. I'm gonna catch out
for one second, coming off here with one particular person
who is writing high on that only fans like niche
of like not necessarily going into getting not into only
fans anymore, but started her movie career. Uh di di dario,

(28:14):
I forget her, I get her, forget her first name, but.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Interrupt me while forgetting a name. I love Thanks for
doing that.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But she's been like in a ton of movies. And uh,
no matter what you see in Hollywood, you happen to
see Alexandra de Dario, by the way, Uh you have
to see her in quite a few different films. Now,
not necessarily that there there isn't an influx of new
actors that they haven't introduced introduced into Hollywood. But where

(28:47):
do you guys see the niche that breaks that mold?
Where there's a list echelon types of actors that are
getting played over and over and over and over again
in different movie roles and not necessarily letting that bottom
achelon kind of sneak their way in, uh to the

(29:09):
top echelon.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I'm sorry, I'm looking at some head shots here of
Carrissa Pearson and Andrew very good looking headshots right there,
but not good looking enough where you're like, these guys
don't have any ability to sort of thing. Carrissa has
certain characteristics and so does Andrew to their faces that
show a personality and a soul is there just throwing

(29:32):
it out there, but you could and then how about this,
This is something for you guys on IMDb network. Right underneath,
right underneath it is Carissa, and then Andrew is right there,
and then Val Kilmore pops up. So I swear to God,
you know I'm not joking. It's it's like right there,
but yeah, I Val Kilmore pops up. Now if Al
Kilmore did pass away, so you know, if you guys

(29:54):
are in any kind of niche right there, it's it's
right next to Val Kilmore. But that's all right. Yeah
he was as he had but he was okay, So
like there's some so yeah, very good when it came
to when it comes to looks like a Val Kilmore.

(30:16):
I always say the if you're looking for Ryan Reynolds,
but you need a Jewish version of him, you have
Paul Runn, all right, and then you're ready, you're ready
to push out there like we would rather Ryan Reynolds
be Jewish. Do you have something for us, and they're like,
we have a Paul run perfect amazing on every.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Man People's Man of the Year.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, Like I watched that show, this is that movie,
This is forty and I didn't get it being thirty
nine at all.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I was like, I don't know how much I took
that with the green of thought, Kevin when they Man
of the Year and then the next month they put
Donald Trump on the front page. Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't know. You see, it's those are those are
things that kind of used to mean something. I always
meant less and less and less. Every Person of the Year,
Man of the Year, Woman of the Year went to
Caitlyn Jenner one year, and I'm like, huh, well, all right,
why not because why not? You know, I the uh now,
I thought you were going to bring up with the

(31:14):
only fans thing. I thought you're going to bring up
Amanda Bynes, because she was all old, no, no, no,
we'll get so Amanda Bines was going to be uh,
she has already done the only fans thing. She said,
she's not going to post any sleazy comments or content
or whatever. And when Dan Snyder was asked about her
doing only fans. He said, isn't she a little too

(31:35):
old for that?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
You know?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, I know right, there's a joke for you that
was that it's okay to laugh. Guys, he's a creep.
No one would ask him about her, only fans where
he For those of you that don't know, he was
the alleged sexual assault of Amanda Bines when she was
on shows such as All That and The Amanda Show.
Of course, I am yeah, yeah, I went there, Tony,

(31:59):
I did it.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Really?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You all the mom groups could come after right now
and call me a shitty person, you know, thanks, you
freaking can involved right in, buddy, Thanks for that. And
my kid can't get daycares now because of comments I made.
You're changing the world.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Here you go.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Hey, well let's get into Carissa. Carissa, I'm gonna read
a little bit about your mini bio on IMDb.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Of course she is.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
She is the CEO, the CEO of death Stalker, dead
Stock Productions.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
That stuck.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Now, death Stalk, that's death Death Docker Productions. When did
that start for you, guys?

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That started about a year ago.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay, yeah, you're sick of working for production companies and
you said, funk it let us do our own.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Actually no, I actually am a critical care nurse and
I'm tired of.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Of that.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
And I was sitting next to Andrew in a movie
theater watching Terrifier, and we looked at each other and
we're like, well, it's time for us to do something different,
and we could do that, you know, we could do something.
And we had the discussion of that and the discussion
of what that would look like, and to support one

(33:25):
another because I have no interests really in being on screen.
I have more fun behind the scenes and creating and
making a production, whereas Andrew has more fun being the actor.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Andrew, We're gonna stir the pod a little bit. Andrew,
how bossy is she?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
There?

Speaker 4 (33:45):
You go, No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh god, Tony loves using the.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Words I killed her, I killed her and three I
gave away the movie right there.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
There you go spoiler.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I killed her in Jacker three. She's like, no, I can't.
Phil Herman came to me and goes, Andrew, you know,
I want you and Chrissa to be in the movie,
and I'm like, I can, but I Chris is never.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Really done with Was Jack was Jack or two? Called
jack Er? The second coming or no.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Like a nineties I think.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I call Andrew, you came home and said, yeah, no,
I told Phil hermon, you weren't gonna do that. And
what happens when you tell a scorpio?

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now, Oh, She's like great, I could absolutely be an
actress and do this. I said, do you know what
You're gonna have to memorize lines and all that. It's
not just us standing around delivering lines and you know,
eating things and whatever you think we do. No, I'm
gonna do it. I'm like, Phil, Okay, she's gonna do
Jacker three, so that's fine, you know, and she's gonna
get killed on and she's like this would be good.

(34:48):
I'm gonna get killed in the movie. And I'm like,
glad someone gets excited about fake blood all over him,
because I certainly don't. I do a lot of horror movies.
So I'm like, you realize what this is gonna be? Like,
oh yeah, I grabbed her. It was funny. If we're
in the back of our rental car. We had Guthrie
as our director was directing the scene for it. Was
really did about ten minutes of the movie for Jacker.
So I'm in the car and we took the headrests out.

(35:09):
The cameras are right there, and they're like and then
the first try it, I said, well, I'm going to
go around, cover your mouth and start stabbing you. She
almost died. I went boom, boom, and she's like, oh yeah,
I look real. The first stake, I was like, you
couldn't get better than this, because she I thought she
was going to kill me.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That really sounded like a phone call. Uh, that really
sounded like a phone call between OJ and Nicole Brown.
You know, like, I'm going to come behind you. I'm
going to put my hand around your mouth and start
stabbing you. And they're like, that's literally what happened. I
literally I.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Grabbed her boom and start stabbing her in the car
and she I mean she grabbed my arm and I'm like,
you're not moving that now.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
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can always go to merchbooth dot com, go to the
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as those shameless plug. Shameless plug right there. But we do,
we do. We do sell life changing miracle products that

(36:13):
look like a T shirt, but do a lot more.
And if they don't do a lot more, I would
say you should, uh go on the uh highest rated
TV network you can find and sue us, call us,
call us what you will? Yeah, save you? What's that?

Speaker 3 (36:31):
How does the T shirt save you? You know, doesn't
have a knife in it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Wait, we take it to this, We take it down
to this uh what can only be called vagabond. This
homeless looking guy. He's got long fingernails, but he's convinced
that he used to be Jesus Christ in the past life.
So we have him bless the shirts and we figure
that's good enough. And we do test out the shirts
though we throw rocks at them and eggs like eggs
on a mattress, remember those uh you know, uh durability

(37:00):
tests from back in the day.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
And then they are hammer hammer tested.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
By the way, rich is what you're saying. You said
throwing eggs at the shirts, So you're rich, right?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Whoa hold on on?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
That was ten thousands of dollars of research right there.
You know, we're doing it in front of you know, the.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Before they killed all the birds and now we have
you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, five bucks eats what are you talking about and
Chris crowd crowdfunded merchandise.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Six sixty dollars a dozen eggs.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, crowdfund our eggs so we can throw it at
the shirts to see if they're durable enough to take
on a stabbing. That's the kind the way, that's the
kind of See. Look at that T shirt right there,
looks amazing. Right, it's got the black and white. We
were going to use color, but then they were like,
that's going to cost you guys a little more. So
we went for the black and white out of respect
for more money for us. You know, I know what
you're thinking. Damn, that's smart.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It was.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
It was very It was a smarter idea. Yeah, anyway,
I want to get I want to get back.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Carissa's background
is in radio, and of course she held the position
of promotions director for a number of radio stations as well.
What particular radio stations did you work for? Oh, my goodness,

(38:22):
so many, so many, so many.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't even remember how many they were, but significant.
I worked up there with Andrew Pearson, who wasn't Andrew
Pearson at the time. He was Michael Knight, and I
worked with him in Salt Lake City at a radio station.

(38:45):
What was that one called Andrew? I don't even remember,
it's been so long. Hip hop ninety two you to beat?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
That was?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
That was when Andrew was the whitest boy in hip hop.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay in Salt Lake City. Yeah, I could see that
going over like a fart in church.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Controversial, we do all kinds of controversial.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Were very controversial in this family. And we actually we
were at we went to uh it was a parade.
I remember if I recall and and it wasn't in
Salt Lake City. Where was that parade at Andrew that
we were at? They were they were calling us so
many names.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
No, that was Provo. We were at right outside the
university in Provo, and it was fourth of July and
we were I made the I made the whole staff
dress up. The DJs had to wear polo shirts for
hip hop Stye tucked in. The general managers like, you know, listen,
I've never seen a uh you know DJ's dressed up

(39:49):
so nicely in my entire life. And I'm like, well,
we got to we're running. They think we're the devil.
They're like, oh, devil worshippers. Get away from those people,
and I'm to sit there going, where are we living?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
What is going?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
They called me a devil worshiper, they called me a Satanist.
They threw stuff at me. Wow, it was so much fun.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Now, Christ, did you ever feel like you should have
started praying to the devil for protection against that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
No, I didn't think that at all.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Just throwing it out there. I mean, if they're already
calling you devil worshipers, you have to embrace that shit
and just be like and call on to Satan to
smite them, because now everyone's worshiping God. That's a long line.
You want to go to the shorter line. Devil's right there.
You go to the shorter line. He's like, all right,
you know, we're we're cooking now. Of course I can

(40:39):
get rid of those who do they believe in God.
I got you, I got you, you know, smite them
all a lot of fire, a lot of fireworks or whatever.
But yeah, yeah, not to.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Say my boy beals, but the reality of being in horror.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
People don't understand it. They don't understand. They look at
me and they're like, you've got to be crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
And I'm like, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
I love war. I love I loved being the victim
and being killed. I like fake blood. I like to
watch a fake blood cannon just totally go all over
the place.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think it's one of those I think it's it's total.
It's one of those genres that you're you're able to
portray some of the darkest parts of human behavior and
show everybody, because not everyone's going to see somebody murder somebody,
you know, in most most case scenario, in their own lives.

(41:32):
But if you're the.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Reality of being a critical care nurse, and I've worked
I've worked in critical care trauma for thirty plus years.
I've been a nurse. I've seen more things than it
would tail all of you.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
And I did want to get I did want to
I did want to focus on that. So like, once
you do see something like that, and you see a
scene of somebody suffering and dying, and from your own
personal experience, you could say, cut that's not right, or
cut nailed it? Am I right?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Totally. A matter of fact, I'm very proud of my
proof of concept. And I know Andrew's probably gonna roll
his eyes because it's been It was a huge argument
in our household when we were building the proof of concept,
even though it was just a matter of what maybe
a four minute scene to just you do the proof
of concept video so that people can understand what your movie,
get a little taste of what the movie's about. And

(42:24):
we had a lot of arguments about my guts and
what they were going to look like. And Andrews was like,
they better look real, and I'm like, you don't even
know what gets look like, dude.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I do, Andrew.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
I already knocking you down, Andrew, that's already listen that
I froze by. It was seventeen degrees outside. I'm running
around with a T shirt on in that video. If
you guys saw that for Soldiers, this sent and I'm like, okay,
they'll cut. This guy's coming over with a huge jacket
and throwing it on me. I'm like, I'm surprised that
he gets sick. And then she's like, okay, Jack, open

(43:00):
it up, take the guts out. And I'm like, oh boy, okay,
here we go, like warm, my hands are freezing right now,
and I'm like these look great. This looks good. It
turned out good. I mean when you're doing horror. It's
all in the layers when you're doing those things with
practical effects, so it's literally it's a lot of sleight
of hand or sleight of camera.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
So it's yeah, you show them what you want. You want,
you show the audience what you want them to see
in that in that regards absolutely the now of that.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Aspect of showing the audience what you want. They don't
even realize that. You know, there's so many people in
that scene that's outside of the camera frame trying to
make that scene happen and watching and witnessing what's going on.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
And if you watch that scene when I'm stabbing the
girl on the ground, her mother is out of frame
three feet behind me going and we had to because
of safety on the set, we always say these are
prop nye. Does everyone pass it around? It's this is
what we're using. Does anyone have a real knife? It

(44:04):
needs to stay locked up in your car when we
have safety meetings for on set. So she's watching me
with a prop knife, and then we did a couple
of takes with it, and I'm like, fight me some
more on it, and then the girl I'm like, and
this is you know, the knives are retractable, so you're going,
it looks like you're really just going to town. She
broke it, and I'm like, I'm glad we have a

(44:25):
backup of this, and I'm like, here you go. She's like,
do I get to keep it? You think it broken?
I'm gonna throw it? Oh wow? Is that because I
broke it? Sure you get to keep the big problem?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Here you go. But it's amazing how many people are
literally you always we make it look like it's just
you and the victim, and there's thirty people standing two
feet away.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Wait, there's always something as far as uh, even in
the upper echelon actors that have portrayed in many of movie.
I'm sure you you yourself, Andrew, you've been in one
hundred and fifty plus movies.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Correct seen the up We're abo one hundred and forty
five or something.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Writing about So yeah, is there and this is this
is actually asked to Robert Downey Jr. And Uh, the
guy who played Thor. They said, what was the one
thing that you took from set, not necessarily that you
weren't supposed to, but had in your collection that was

(45:27):
so cool that you were just like, oh, it was
a one off.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Let's see, I would say in here, I don't even
think I were I don't even think I have it.
I've taken some knives from some of the fucking I
literally and I did it by accident. I was filming
a movie in August and I had and I was
playing military and I had these knives and I was
I was like I was born on the table because

(45:55):
we were, you know, just and I'm like watch this.
Everyone's like, you're crazy, and I'm playing with these knives
wives and I ended up walking off the set with it.
No one even knew. I literally was like, so now
I packed up my stuff away and I go I'm
at the rental car place and I'm like, I can't
bring that. I believe it. This is what happened. I

(46:15):
left in the rental car because I couldn't take it
on the airplane. I already had. It was already like
my bags were checked that I was going to return
the rental card. I'm like, oh no. So I literally
popped open the thing, threw the fake knife in there,
and left because they were going to let me through
security with a proper knife.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
But I was actually.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Spark he was actually there during that situation and his
his his depictions a little different from what you were saying, Spark.
He flipped that board around. It says, uh uh, wait
a minute, that is not how the works. Can somebody
catch my.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Legs and.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
The wind?

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Would Chipper for the wind?

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Now, we.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Did have earlier this year on the bod Guys podcast.
We were talking about I guess Audrey, whatever the hell
her last name is her, her boyfriend or husband killed himself,
and it's always how did he do it? You know,
because you know it's a terrible thing. I guess he
was depressed or whatever. But we did have a bracketology

(47:15):
sort of thing of of worst ways to kill yourself
and would.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Came in.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Wood Chipper came in first right there. Toaster in the
bathtub didn't really make it after the second round, but
wood Chipper, we figured you go on front ways, you
go and you go on legs or head first. You're
still it's gonna be a tough time.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
It is wants a lot of horror movies. I can
tell you way too many.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Have you guys ever been pulled over and had a
prop gun in the car? There she is, I knew it.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Could you tell us a little bit drop gun?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And it was an act prop acts that have blood
on it in that or oh my god, Jesus lord,
how did that.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Dog circle around?

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Let's do it?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
They just asked me if I had anything in the
car and I said, yeah, no, I remember.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Uh so that happened on the set with the movie.
I was in a Man in the Box and here
it's me and Kevin the car and uh Kevin. Kevin's
already like you know, he's he's a black guy, right,
so he's like he's like hey, He's like, maybe you
should drive. You're from this area. And I said, it
doesn't matter if I'm from the area or if you're
not from the area. You know you drive. I'm not.
You know, I got who's on my breath from the

(48:39):
night before. I don't even know if I'm good right now.
So we're driving around, Bam, lights go on, whatever, he
did a rolling stop, pulls over, we're outside of the car.
There's a prop gun in the car, right, and uh yeah,
it felt it felt kind of lopsided there where you know,
they're asking Kevin, not me. The other can and they're like,

(49:02):
where'd you buy this? Gun. Blah blah blah, where's that,
where's the paperwork for it? Blah blah. Tells us was
in the car and he's like officer to God, like.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
The normally the prop I'll be honest, the props are
so cheap. I was playing military in one movie and
I had to take the gun up real quick like that.
It's like, boom, take it up real quick. So we
we I think it was.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
It was.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
We werelready been doing a take. It was a rehearsal.
The military advisers like Andrew, why don'd you go boom boom,
keep it close, keep it up. Took the gun up
and I had to. I was good for three or
four days. I had not broke my gun or anything.
And we had gone through most of the military stuff.
So my scenes, I was one of the leads of
the movie, was we were wrapping up a lot of
the main military. So I'm in this room, I take it,

(49:49):
gets stuck out of bed, it pops up, breaks off
and spins around on the ground, and I'm like, and
I'm like to fix this for the scene. But that's
literally a lot of times the props are so cheap.
They look good and they're plastic. The guns are literally
plastic and they look yeah. And all the stuff where

(50:15):
you see the bullets coming out, that's all post production
where you see, yeah, all that the noise of like
we will literally take the gun like this and let
it kick back into us and you'll think we're firing it.
We're not. It's all post production. That's the nice nice
of movies. But I will say we did get I
did get pulled over back in August with do you

(50:35):
guys know Ari Lehman, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ari Leman was
in the car with me. We were working on a
movie and we were filming and search light into that,
which is outside of Vegas, and we were in Boulder
City and Ari and I were staying in the house
together with another actor or two and Joe Castro, who
was a really really good special effects guy. So Joe

(50:55):
and I and Ari were in the car and Ari's
in the front seat with me. He's like, Andrew, you
got seated, and he's showed me this phone and we're
going through I had no idea school zone.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
It changed like that, the speed limited thirty one west.
Ari's got Ari's got to look to him that says,
pull me over. If I'm in a school zone. Oh no,
I was like throwing it out there, sitting there.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I'm like, he's like, look at this, and he showed
me his phone. I'm like, Ari, all of a sudden,
the speed zone changed, cop goes and I'm like, oh no,
I'm like, just really what quiet. I'm gonna try to
talk my way out of this. I couldn't and I
got a double seven hundred dollars ticket. I'm like, thank you, Ari,
this is awesome. I'm like, I can't tell my wife

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about this seven hundred dollars ticket in Vegae outside of
Vegas with Ari Leman and the car because we were
literally we had something important to do. We had to
go to Spirit Halloween.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You could have just gotten.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
I'm like, did we really Horror? We were on this,
We were on the horror film and I was with
a huge special effects guy in the backseat and Ari
Leman from Friday the Thirteenth, and we're all going Spirit Halloween.
They get pulled over for speeding and the school zone.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
The thing is the thing is that if your car
gets impounded after like four or five days, it turns
into a Spirit Halloween. Oh I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Like, what the hell?

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Hell, I know this is my car here, So I
made already make a video to play for Carissa. He's like,
we're hearing it pulled over. I'm like, you gotta tell her.
I'm like, you're gonna tell her you distracted me in
this car and we played the video. I'm like, you're
telling her right now. I said it to her. I'm like, here,
this is already. He's gonna tell you what happened. But no,
he's a cool guy, he's super nice guy. But yeah,

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he distracted me so bad. Got a speeding ticket. It
was double and I'm like, you're not gonna let me
off of the warning. Oh no, you were like twenty
miles an hour in the speed limit and I'm like,
it's fifty five back there, now, change a thirty five.
You didn't see the sign? Like where.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Meanwhile, there's like, while you know, you guys get pulled
over in a school zone. Meanwhile, there's a kid shooting
up to school, you know, in that same day, and
and they're like, you know, the crimes we can prevent.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I was like, I was shocked. I was like, you
gotta be kidding me, But yeah, I couldn't talk my
way out of it. I try, I try. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, you didn't give them the whole. You didn't give
them the whole, the eyebrows, you know, the whole. He opposer,
you know.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I was like, I can't are you serious, I can't
believe I did that.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
I mean, I didn't see that. We're new in the area.
Oh they didn't go.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Carissa. You don't strike me as someone that's gotten a ticket, though.
Have you been able to talk your way out of
more tickets than Andrew has?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I have.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
I've been able to talk my way out except you know,
back in then Missouri day.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Oh yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Back in the.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Missouri time, Andrew decided to let everyone know on live radio,
including my mother who listens to his morning show at
that time, that I was running a stop sign, which
I do have a problem with stop signs.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
And I roll right through it and I don't know
why I was doing.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It because I couldn't just stop. And then the next
day I'm at the stops finding guess what, I'm rolling
right through it and there's a police officer and it
pulls me over and goes Yeah. I listened to Michael
Knight on the radio and you must be Charissa, please

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don't give me a ticket better at talking to them
than Andrew is. I didn't get a tickets that day.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I think there's I think there's a little bit of
bias there, just throwing it out there, but uh, and
it's specific bias. I have this theory that you know,
the uh, the world stops when something terrible happens to
a blonde woman. You know, it just stops. And John

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Benay Ramsey proves the whole thing. You know, how many
kids go missing, like missing constantly and they're like, wait
a second, a blond child has gone missing. Ask the
parents and any answer they gave you is fine, but no,
the yeah, the the are you guys? Where are you guys?

Speaker 3 (55:05):
From?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Where you Where are you located? Right now?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Well?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Right now? I I always describe it as we are
in the Witness Protection Plan and we're in North Carolina, in.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
The middle of a lot of woods, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
That's when you know, the United States is just a
name because we have we have places sectioning themselves off
with north and south and west and the Dakotas, the Dakota,
the Dakota's, you know, the West, West Virginia. You couldn't
just get together and call yourself Carolina, you know, like,
or get creative and pick a new name, you know,
like we both like the name Carolina so much.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
How about New Carolina? That would The new.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Carolina would have worked. It worked for New Hampshire. There's
no Hampshire out there. That's there's a New York. Could
have just been York. You know, we're we're dealing. We
could we could figure this out, man.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
You know, well, Forriissa, I do have to ask this question.
And because of course the I am not to said
the IMDb. The crowd funding. Where would people sign up
for crowdfunding if they were looking to fund the movie?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I really like you, Tony, thank you so much for
that question, because that's my favorite question to answer.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
All right, that's enough time that we have there, we
got and all right, no, we're going into right now,
you're sucking.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
No, they would go to Indigogo, Yeah, into Go Go.
That's where a campaign is for a Soldiers And we
have a lot of good perks on there as well.
If you want to be in the movie and be
a part of the movie and be immersed, we have
a perk for that. We have wonderful T shirts as well.
You can also get a lots of different things. You

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can be in the bar scene with Air Force Amy.
We have a wonderful perks for that as you can
actually meet Air Force Amy and meet Barney and a
lot of the other cast members that are going to
be there.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
That's really cool. Yeah, we're the what's the going rate
for the let's even see a minor minor funding what
what do you guys have it set at?

Speaker 4 (57:20):
I think twenty five bucks for a T shirt? You
can you can donate without a perk as low as
five dollars, so.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
But yeah, I always every dollar that we can get,
we really do.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
All we need is just a million people to donate
five dollars, right, and then then you guys could just
make your you know, one hundred thousand dollars movie and
then you know, get a bonus.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I mean it'll have amazing special effects.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Oh yeah, special effects.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Anyways, well, I'm saying, like extra, it'll be like watching
Transformers or something.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Have you guys ever watched one of those movies where
you know, do you see the budget to it and
you're like, oh, money, laundry?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Because there's no fucking way a chance three million dollars
and you're like, oh, okay, no known stars, no special effects.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Andrew it's gonna come out as Optimus Prime and be like,
hellott Bots roll out a lot of a lot.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
And what's funny is we're just reading an article today
and we watch if you ever stay in the theater
and watch all the credits. Nothing is being produced in
Hollywood anymore. No, it's all outside of the United States.
All the post productions being done overseas to save money.
The major studios are outsourced and everything Hollywood's okay.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Well there's a good reason. Yeah, there's a good reason
for that. So smaller cities that were getting these nice perks,
you know, they were getting they were getting money, they
were getting money. Well, the smaller cities decided to increase
the prices and increase the prices because they uh, and
it has a little bit to do with politicians as

(59:01):
well and the people that they're trying to represent, where
they say, oh, don't worry, next time these guys come
by for a movie, we're going to jack the price
up on them and then we can all give you
a tax cut. From that point and that might be
true for like one year, you know, like one cycle
of one year, but then you know it's a money business,
so they say to themselves, well, what's the name of

(59:23):
your city again? Cool? Never coming here again. We can
recreations of cities in smaller cities outside of America. You know,
you can make parts of you can make parts of
Croatia look like America if you really want to, if
you really want to build around it, and you can
have jeez, it's yeah, smaller cities getting greedy kind of

(59:46):
kind of kind of did it.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Horror films recently been filled out. Maxine was partially filmed
in la but the other ones was a trip XX
sex for the precursor to Maxine filmed in like New Zealand.
Per same thing filmed in New Zealand. Because it's cheaper
to film outside the United States. You don't have to
deal with unions, you don't have to deal with the

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you know, mandatory pay structures and things like that. So
a lot of the companies are saving money and outsourcing them.
We're non union as far as the movie goes, so
we're not SAG or anything else. We're not bound with
you know, some of the restraints that Hollywood has, and
that drives the price up as well. But I mean,
I understand why it's there. We just don't have to
deal with it. Just just like you know, with the
topics in the movie, we can go further than a

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Hollywood studio because we don't have people to answer to that,
you know, outside of you know, general standards for the public.
We don't have anyone going well, that's too controversial for
the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, a lot of a lot of things that a
lot of these agencies like to stay together too. They
like to you know, keep their talent clustered together. So
if you see a lot of the same actors in
the same movies, or you know, sparsely together in this
same movies, you can kind of play connect the agencies
together and they're all Union. It happened in the one

(01:01:06):
movie I like, Uh, I like to say it was
such a piece of shit disaster money grab uh Tom
Hanks in the Terminal. You ever see that movie? Oh yep,
every single one of those actors are represented by the
same agency, and every single even the background characters, every
background character is all Union represented too. And they use

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one location and they and then they use the the
TV prompting bullshit where that's all pre recorded anyways, so
as I don't care how much they said the budget was,
you could make that. You could make that for under
one hundred grand if you really wanted to. But and
then Tom Hanks does this is in a Russian accent?
Is that Is that what he's going for? Because of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Time?

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yea Ukrainian ish?

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
It was?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
It wasn't he didn't hit it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
No, No, he didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
And you can tell when he hits it, uh, early nineties,
you know you had I don't know. There's certain times
where an actor hits a character so good it's like
anything after they're doing from that role is just them
playing somebody. After Forrest Gump, it's just Tom Hanks playing
a guy. And you know, like for example, Apollo thirteen.

(01:02:18):
I apologize about this LaGG Itt. It's pissing me the
hell off right now. You know the you know, my
WiFi likes to say, hey, here's your WiFi bill. It's like, okay, great,
so where's my connectivity? Pays the money?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
You know, the you're acting much better than Katy Perry
in a Blue Origin thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, you know, they they solved some problems up there.
They showed what they showed how much money you need
to go to space with? You know, it's basically it
turned into a thing. You know, but we did come
a long way from a Powell thirteen to just sending
celebrities up there to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Be like, yeah, look at what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
You this and and now now the now when you
have the conspiracy theory saying that it never happened, and
then the backlash from that is saying I think one
of them said, how dare you? We're heroes and I'm like,
oh my god, what what what are you doing? What
do you what are you doing? You know, both both

(01:03:22):
parties by the way, you know, on their little board,
Sparky does flip it around, spark whip it and flip it.
Oh my god. Hey, if your movie is set in
any other country besides the USA, you have to pay
the country's tariffs and and cut it's a wrap. I'll

(01:03:45):
just call him the red hatted tariff man right there,
red hatted tariff man, which you know, it's it's uh,
it's it's made the news fun to watch again, where
it's just like, first of all, you could all go
to hell. I'm back, I've parted myself. Oh my god,
it's a it's just a lot of fun to watch anymore,

(01:04:07):
because I I thought, the first of all, we haven't
really had a president that hasn't had a run on
sentence or an incomplete sentence in a while, because uh,
and that's just the way. It's been a lot of
semi colons, a lot of colons, a lot of commas
and crap like that. And then the one before time
just sounded like a stammering, you know, like there was
something broken, like internally there You're like, huh, I we

(01:04:30):
me and my wife we went to we went to
church this past Sunday. And the one month senior was
given way too much talking time for a person that
does not know the English language. And I mean ninety
percent of the whole thing was his talking time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
And he's still now, this is Eastern mass This is
Eastern Mass. This is a big EU. Most of them
do this goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
No, no, no, this is a thing, Tony. There was
a guy in there. There were two months seniors there.
There was one that knew how to talk, you know,
and I think he just didn't feel like it because
he's super old right then the other guy comes in
and by the way, Andrew, he kept calling him the Jesus,
and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Jesus?

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
That's all I mean. You know that's out there a little.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
It's a weird you know, it's a weird approach. Everyone.
By the way, I wanted to get everybody's names there,
because these people were the best actors I've ever met
in my life. They all acted like they knew the
fuck he was saying. Because I'm like, there's no way,
there is absolutely no way. People were just like uh
huh yeah, and peace be with you too, blah blah blah,

(01:05:39):
like there's no way, dude. Sounded like remember that, Remember
that Tim Allen movie with the with the alien thing.
It was kind of like a spoof of Star Trek.
Are you familiar Galaxy Quest? Galaxy the Aliens from Galaxy Quest.
I talked just like that, only add a much thicker

(01:06:00):
Indian accent. That sounds like you're he's ripping off your grandma,
you know, or you are saying he's count number Jesus
needs it. I'm like, you every you all know what's
going on here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
My wife, she leans into me, and she's my wife,
very smart, very beautiful. She uh, she knows, she's she
knows many different languages. So she comes in and she's
she whispers and uh, in the cutest white possible, she says,
why would they make him say the words when he
doesn't know how to speak, you know, and this is

(01:06:38):
coming from a five foot tall Filipino, you know, like
she's she's just like leaning and she says, it's so politely.
I said, I have no idea why, you know, And
then you know, I had somebody look behind me, you know,
as if they were radis shush. But I'm in like
full fuck you mo, like I swear you shushed me.
I'm gonna say, you know, like just just because I

(01:06:59):
don't you know, I used to do ultra boys service.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I used to do that crack for like six years.
And you know, if you're looking at it from a
performance aspect, By the way, there were no ultra boys suspicious, right,
just none.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I don't know if there was like a restraining order
or whatever, or you know, there was none. There was
no nuns either, I know, right, no word playing intended.
There was this one kid that looked like he got
kicked out of Dungeons and Dragons with this like weird
red hair going on, and uh and the beard to
go with it. I'm like, thank god, this is some
kind of dream team they got going on here for

(01:07:34):
a fucking Sunday Mass.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
She got something into frankincense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Oh my god. It was just it was, you know,
two stars out of five, you know, two stars. Just uh.
If I'm being a little bit too critical, then the
crackers were stale too. No wine even you are horrible, bad,
just bad, you know, would not recommend dear yelp?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, what what would happen if you could yelp at church?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I think you could yelp at church? You could yelp
at church?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Right, yeah yeah, chriss Like I've been there, done that. Yeah,
not guilty. What kind of horror movie would that turn into?

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
No, this is the great there's the great issue for
a horror movie, Like a priest that gets yelped into
bad reviews and then goes on a murderous rampage in
the name of God.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Yeah, it starts killing off the critics.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Kevin Bacon show where the priest was a demon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I was like, oh yeah, well, that's it's it's Kevin.
It's tough though, because it's it's Kevin Bacon. You know,
if he's not dancing, he's trying, they're they're just focusing
the camera on his feet movement, running away from Trevor,
running away from tremors, you know, like, and that's that's
like a that's a Remember though, the old shots were like, oh,

(01:09:06):
how do we prove these actors are running? Oh quick,
just take a picture of the legs moving, you know, like, like,
whose whose idea was that? Where now us as audience
members were like, oh, of course they're running. Look at
the legs continue.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
No longer, No longer is it footlooth, It's now loafer looth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Loafer. Yeah, he's he's a lot older right now. I
guess Ian Kira s Edgewick turned out to be second cousins.
Isn't that weird?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Go figure?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yeah yeah. Ancestry dot Com was like, well, Kevin Bacon,
as fate would have it, you're fucking your cousin right now,
and you're married to her, so you know, congratulations, you're
still kind of creepy. I got to meet Kevin Bacon
the one time I was working at the Mohegan Sun Casino,
and inside of a restaurant there, it comes to the

(01:09:57):
back entrance, right, short guy. He says, hey, can I
get a? Can I get a two cheeseburgers? And blah
blah blah. He's get me his order and we're slammed, right,
So I said, uh, he said, yeah, buddy, I said
order right up there. He's like, listen, I can't. I'm
trying to stay in you know, low key here. He's
like it looks back and forth. He's like, my name's

(01:10:18):
Kevin Bacon. So no, my name's Kevin too nice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
And then it hit me. I'm like, oh, crap is
Bacon right?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah, I didn't even here. He had this little great
goat tea thing going on too. Now he had no bacon,
by the way, he already had got No, he didn't uh,
he didn't order anything like that. But now I got him,
has got him as crappy threw. He threw me fifty
dollars and I said, you want to change. He's like, no, no,
I just I gotta go. I gotta go, you know,
And then then out he went. Because the Bacon Brothers

(01:10:46):
were playing at Breakers that day, this is going back
like eight years ago. Super nice guy, much shorter than
you would you would expect, like a Tom Cruise being
that short, much shorter than you would think, which just
plays into show the people. You know, a little bit
of camera manipulation right there, Tom Cruise. I think the
one movie that they couldn't do it on was Top

(01:11:10):
Gun where he was like told to wear lifts.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because what's her face is
like five ft ten spark. He's got one more picture
for the road, right there. Nicholas Cage and The Unpassion
of the Christ. Next time I get three stars. Look
at that, The Unpassion of the Christ right there, Nicholas

(01:11:34):
of the Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Doing some weird stuff recently, I liked.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
My favorite Nick Cage movies is the most recent one
I watched, which was him playing himself.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
And long legs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
You mean no, no, he he played himself. I guess
a fan wanted to fly him out or what an
unbridled talent or whatever. The hell of the movie was,
Oh it's great, it was Oh Pedro Pascal, Pedro Pascal
was in it. I mean it's just he just played
into his own stereotype so well because how else could you,
you know?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
And it was one of those one of those things
like when John have got funnier. If they had another
actor portray Nicholas Cage as himself, would that would have
been such a slap in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I would have loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
So one last question for you guys, Carissa Andrew dream
dream portrayal of a movie as far as the horror genre. Uh,
if you had to take a classic and redo it
in some way, what are you taking for are all

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the marbles? Which one are you redoing up?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
I'm gonna let you take that one, Andrew.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
There you go. I think I think Carissa is offended
by the question. Honestly, no way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
From that need to be redone.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
I would say it's been redone a ton of times.
But Children of the Corn it's never been done the
right way. What anyone says, Stephen King, it was never done.
It was never given the justice. I think. I think
Stephen King movies are really good or really bad. And
Children of the Corn they've tried to read you one
hundred times and they can't nail it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Yeah, you know, they they like a You got a
Tommy Knocker's fan club out there, for Stephen King, and
then you have the I don't know why there's such
a freaking fan club over the movie. It it doesn't
it doesn't need to be there anyone who's anyone who says, oh,
the book was better. I want to see your hard
drive right now, because what the fuck? What are you

(01:13:51):
talking about? The book was better? There were Stephen King.
It's almost like you can tell when he started dak
King as the production moves on, where you're like, oh, well,
I don't know if that's much of a twist rather
than just a fucked up thing to put in there, and.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
They're starting to real they're starting they're doing Kujo again.
I don't know if you guys saw that net making
Kujo and it's a pitbull. I guess as time. So
I'm in the the original Kujo a guy played in
that Saint Bernard outfit believe part. So I don't know.
I'm anxious to see what comes out of Kujo Monkey

(01:14:32):
that came out. I happen to like it. I mean,
he has a very dry sense of humor, Stephen King,
So Monkey, I happen to like it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I mean most people are.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Like, it's not good, it's just I liked it. It
was just, you know, I like the sense of humor
in it because it's it's just very dry, I mean,
and that movie was I liked it. But the Stephen like,
I think the only movie he ever directed was Maximum Overdrive,
and I happy I like Maximum Overdrive. That was good.

(01:15:00):
He has a Stephen King never directed anything since then,
and that was one of his books and one of
the movies he directed. But I'd love to see, you know, actually,
besides Children of the Corn Pet Cemetery, I still don't
think anyone's ever done it the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I don't know. I don't know, man. I think I
think the original was just certain scenes were or brought
so chilling, for example, and kind of comical to to
a degree, you know, where you see the child run

(01:15:37):
over by the car and you see the struggle to
to get you know, to to to save the kid.
The way that was shot, the sequence, how that was
shot were it has you if this is the first
time you're watching it, it has you reaching out like
like in your head, like come on, get the kid.

(01:15:57):
And then of course you have the new marriage and
now the child's dead, and now you have grieving parents
to deal with too, and you still have one kid
left over, so the actor is to touch on all
of those emotions, really hit it. And then you got
the creepy neighbor. You know, dude used to play herman monster.

(01:16:18):
I'm not gonna come off with his actor's name, but
he was always he was just there like like you know,
sometimes dead is better. That line that that line driven
right in, and I think it kind of got shark
jumping around the flashback scene, you know, around the whole

(01:16:41):
pascal popping up like we're in the fucking sixth Sense
movie sort of thing. You know, like that's where I
really don't think that was needed at all. You know,
the cat coming back, scratching everybody, being a fucking jerk,
you know, then the kid coming back. Yeah, you know what,
I don't think they needed the kid coming back. I

(01:17:03):
think that they I think they needed the cops to
stop that situation right off the rips. That way, you
can leave more mystery to it. That way, all we
could be left with is the cat coming back, and
we could say to ourselves as audience members, like maybe
it wasn't even their cat, you know, maybe it was
just you know, circumstantial. Maybe it was just a regular

(01:17:24):
straight cat instead of you know, like a more sentimental,
like a mental attachment sort of thing, since the family's
been going through a lot of trauma and maybe the
neighbor just made up that little mickmac tribe bullshit. But
then they got way too literal with it, where now
the wife is back, she's got some fucking bullshit going
on with her head. And you could tell that the
director's experience before time was just in music videos alone,

(01:17:48):
because the imagery used was that of attention gaining and
with music videos for the for the shock value of anything.
Every entrance scene towards the end of that movie, every
entrance scene was that quality of a music video at
the time, where you're waiting for music to start but
it doesn't and uh and it kind of it adds

(01:18:10):
a unique quality to the whole movie at the time
because no one else was kind of portraying scenes in
that like in that way and pet cemetery too unnecessary,
I mean, what, you know, why do we do that?
You know, they were trying to really catch on to
the whole terminator too thing where they're like, what if
the kids grew up and they do some stuff sort

(01:18:31):
of thing. It was a cash grab in a in
a major way. But I didn't mind it. I did
mind the the remake of pet Cemetery. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's just uh, I don't know it. It's like remaking.
It's like remaking The Shining without Jack. Yeah, you're not

(01:18:52):
going to get it better, you know, right, I.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Think they are remaking The Shining, I thought, and and you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Know what, some people will watch it and because like
the problem that The Shining has right now is back
in those days, there were no cell phones. There was
nothing that we had today, and you need that exact
environment now. The worst they're going to do is, oh,
I don't have any service on my cell phone. And
that's that's I get it. You know, that's an element

(01:19:19):
that you could go towards. But I think the story
told in the original where Kubrick just did an outstanding
job from start to finish, and you know, maybe the
maybe the Nickelson fucking a ghost thing wasn't needed, you know,
because who needs Why would I need to see that?
You know, like I got you, you know, but the

(01:19:42):
chilling scene where mcgrady's in the bathroom and you know,
you get the whole You've always been the caretaker here Lyne.
And that that stick on that the camera stays on
his on his vacant, on his vacant, but but yet
intent uh look you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I

(01:20:06):
have that, I have that uh, that stare I have that,
uh that exact scene stare on my wall freaks out
my wife every time. But just that portrayal of like,
oh shit, this guy, this guy, you know, is a
real ghost sort of thing, like this guy is a
real entity.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
That like the amount of blood coming out of the elevator, the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Blood elevator thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
You've never seen anything like that, and horror.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Especially especially at that time. The casting, I mean, top
to bottom. You know, you got that little kid. He's
a creepy little kid, you know, like you you don't
you don't cast a kid with the personality you cast
a kid that's been you know, that looks like he's
he's already come from a trouble to home or whatever.

(01:20:53):
You now, Now, every every time you see some kid
portrayed like that, you have audience members saying something like,
all right, that kid probably has optism. They should have
had him checked before time. How dare they work him
like that? This is insensitive, you know, and they'll walk
out of the theaters for all the wrong reasons because
we're into some kind of new world dumbness going on

(01:21:16):
right now, and in certain scenarios, you know, they're they're
overjuking the stats in my opinion on certain things. But
but now that movie, it couldn't be redone. I think
Brian from Wings redid the one? Remember that that's the
only I that was made for TV? One I made
for TV Yeah, yeah, ninety six or something like that.
I was watching that, I'm like, what the why is

(01:21:39):
Brian from Wings angry?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Like, you can't fucking be still the guy from Wings
and now you're playing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I don't know, Andrew. There has to be and even
for you, Chris, So, there has to be a definitive
role in the horror movie genre that you would click
to at one point in time that you were like,
oh my god, I'm so glad that this happened. Is
there a specific time in a specific movie that you

(01:22:07):
click to and you're like, man, I wanted that to happen. Mine,
in particular, is in the House of Wax. I don't
know if you've guys have seen the MOVIEU. It had
Paris Hilton in it, and I was so happy when
she died and she had that the pole shoved right
through her head and she like slid down the pole

(01:22:29):
and I was like, I was like, oh my god,
I love love the special effects on this, on this
scene identically, like it's what everybody wanted to happen. Is
there an I kind of scene that you guys know
of that's like something like that to you?

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Yes, Friday the thirteenth, Oh my gosh, I can't say
that we I redid this scene or very similar to
it with Christina laughed, Sir, I can't really say more
than that. But the one where Jason came in grabbed
the spear and the counselors are there, boom straight through them,

(01:23:09):
both went straight through. I was like, I mean this
it's and it's practical effects. It's not even cgi, it's
not like something came out yesterday. But that is like
one of the iconic scenes. And Friday the thirteenth, all
of them that just I always remember, like he grabs
a spear, takes it and goes through both of them

(01:23:30):
when they're like having pick them and then they like
and I'm like, damn, this is and that was just
one that just was like, that's it, that scene right there,
and I'm like, you know, you never see that anymore
and that's like an I course scene that just you know,
and it's just payback for the counselors having sex and
letting Jason drown on the lake and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Yeah, it was just you know, that was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
He grabbed their there going at it and he grabbed
ard st I was like, damn, I'm like, that's the
scene right there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
There is that There is that limit you have to
push in a scene where you say, how can we
make the audience hate this person? Oh, they're like, oh,
well maybe if there's a kid drownded and uh you know,
they they're bad lifeguards and they didn't see the kid.
They're just not good at their jobs, like not good enough.
Maybe they should be fucking Oh okay.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Well that was back in though. I mean, horror was
sex and that was like the winning combination back in
the eighties for horror. It was like cleavage had the yeah,
and I like it. I like how some of the
indies go back to that nowadays, because that's what was
that was a winning combination.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
But except with Except with Freddy versus Jason. What a
piece of garbage of a movie. What a money grab
all around one. Oh my god, I gotta just let
me just touch on it real quick. When the when
the guy says, get off me, babe, you smell like cigarettes,
I'm like, you got it. I'm out. I'm out. I'm
walking away right now. Never never has a straight man

(01:25:07):
said to a woman that looked like that, get off
of me because you smell like cigarettes. O. My bone
was gone now cigarettes, you know what? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
An interview, the horror interview with the eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
What I find the most amusing about all of that
is these people are like, you know, if you look
at these scenes and stuff and they analyze, and I'm like, listen,
I'm gonna be real with you. This is what a
horror movie was in the eighties. It was we were
bored on Friday night. We called the movie phone, what
time is Friday the thirteenth? Playing? Oh, eight o'clock. Then
we went down to the theater with a date or
whatever and watched the movie and that was it. It

(01:25:42):
was a date night. It wasn't we're gonna analyze the
scene for practical effects. I mean that never happened. It
was just literally, that's what Nightmare and Elm Street was.
That's what Friday the thirteenth was. That's what all these
movies were. It was a date night or Saturday night
thing to do because we didn't have we barely had cable.
It was the one where we pressed the buttons in
the box. It didn't exist. So everyone wants to go
see the movies and no one analyzed them like they did.

(01:26:02):
It was just an entertaining thing nowadays, or you know, oh,
I have the spear from Friday the thirteenth, you know,
and that's like, it's funny because I love the horror shot.
Or the people that watch these horror movies or they're
into it, and our fans that we have are just
you know, I try to tell people, this is not
how it was back in the day. When these movies
came out, even Terminator and stuff, it was just like, Okay,

(01:26:22):
what's out, this is cool, let's go see it. We
didn't think any more past that. As someone watching the movie.
It was just it was fun and that's about it.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I'm not I recently recently went to go see Minecraft
the movie and yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
We did too.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
I like the chicken jockeying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
That, Marky.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
What do you got on the big board? Hey, Paris?
Why why is there a poll through your head?

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
I forgot you had a date with Sparky on Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
You go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Yeah, factual, by the way, factual facts, Caressa Andrew. We
want to thank you guys very much for coming on
our humble show, our new name nothing show that nobody watches.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
We've been up there in views right now?

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
How we do all right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yeah, Carressa Andrew. If people were going to find out
and get in touch with you, how would they do it?
How would they check out the crowdfunding? How would they
get in touch?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Well, they can get in touch with us on Facebook
as well. We have sol Harmon's Soldiers Descent public group.
We have about four hundred and fifty five plus members.
You can see some of the behind the scenes stuff
for the proof of concept, watch what's going on, and
you know, see some of the campaign as well. For
campaign and to get involved with the funding and the

(01:28:00):
action aspect, you can go to intogogo and put in
a Soldier's Descent and you can take a look at
the perks there as well. We both have public Facebook
pages the way I love.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Your Facebook page. If you're looking for roles to a
little donation, get a role in there, get your butt
into some seats to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Yeah, exactly. And and Andrew does a lot of our
marketing for our production and does a lot of that
that piece. So he pushes out a lot of stuff
so that people know what's out and what we're working on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
That's awesome, jeez, Andrew. How about you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
As far as getting in touch, Yeah, I mean I'm
I'm pretty open.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
I have people contact me every day, everyone from fans
to people asking questions from the industries.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
So it's a random today they're like, hey, Andrew, what
are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
I do?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I like question?

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
I feel bad? I like good, do you have a
question for me? I feel bad as people are like no,
it's you, and I'm like, yeah, who else would it be?

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
And I get I get that off and it's really you. Yes,
it's me, and it's like you know, and I feel bad,
like did you have a question for me of anything?
But no, We're really good at answering, you know, questions
and connecting on Facebook and things. My Facebook is most
boring thing alive. So it's told Phil Harmon that today.
I was like, my Facebook is so boring. I don't

(01:29:29):
I literally, it's it's all like perfect and it's like,
you know, here's some dog pictures stacked with movie pictures
stacked with that. It's like it feels almost corporate my
Facebook page. But you know, you can connect with me.
Instagram is the same thing. But we'd love to hear
from people, and if you want to get involved with
the movie, we really need the funding. We really do.
It's a serious movie. It's one of the first serious

(01:29:51):
horror movies ever made. Most horror movies do not take
the topics that we're dealing with seriously. So I will
say it is a serious horr our movie. Something goes.
It's not a horror movie. Oh it is, I guarantee
it is. There's at least thirteen unique kills in the movie,
and there are graphic and we also deal with those
topics that we talked about earlier in very or non Squibbed,

(01:30:15):
I would go.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Squid squib okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
All right, Sparky, if you were looking for us, where
would you find us there, but you can find us
on every single major stream platform including iHeart, Spotify, Spreaker,
Deezer Cast, Box, Pocket Cast, g.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Orio Real, Facebook on our video page, Facebook.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
On our homepage.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
You could also find us on Google YouTube, which is
both videos also, I believe correct and there and there's
that new channel that that I found out about last week?
Is what was that channel? The new channel?

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
It's a good channel. Oh yeah, sign up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
It is the most memorable channel of all.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Channel.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
That thing, that thing, yes, yeah, whatever that thing wherever
you stream your podcasting, Uh, paraphernalia of course. Uh guys,
I'm Tony kaz Kevin here. Of course you ever loving Picasso,
they've done more Daredevil himself.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Let sparkue.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
Big shout out to Charissa and Andrew. Thank you very
much for coming on the show. We appreciate all your
time and effort. Of course, thank you for having us.
Thank you, and we'll talk to you guys next Monday.
More great guests, more great interviews. Guys, We'll talk to
you soon. Have a great night. Bye,

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