The Podguyz Podcast with guest Lee Reddick MBA cosmetics

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Anyways, the so he got the so anyways, he got
the touchdown, got a million dollars from the UH, from
the organization and every like. If you were an owner
and the student's doing nothing all year and now you
got to pay them a million dollars just because of
stipulation to your contract, you're gonna be like, who called
that play? And James Winston was like, I did. I

(00:24):
called the play. We just thought you should have.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Money, A good deal.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
That kind of gave him that looked like, yeah, you're
gonna be traded.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I'm looking at Camara and that's what.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
He's one of the ones that really, you know, I
really loved watching him play, but I just think he
deserves so much more better.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
He loves New Orleans, though he does.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
He will not leave that team because of New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
But I just kind of like, one time, I really
feel like he should be on a winning team to
to get a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It was on a winning team. It was you know,
he's been there a while, they won the games.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I only know of one winning team, and that's the
pod Guy's podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What Let's do It. Let's do It?

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Hello, everybody on Facebook Live Land, We are the pod
Guy's podcast, bringing it to you as we do ten
fifteen Eastern Standard time.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm Tony Kaz Kevin Neary here. Of course we have
the ever love and p cost. So he puts the
R in rouge, he puts the E in envy, he
puts the D anywhere he wants late spark A.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Sparky says, Hi, there, I'm not I'm trying to figure
out what word Tony was about to spell. There, red
red red red red? Why red?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
What? Well? It is a great color, and uh it
kind of coexists with our guest for today, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
It is okay, what's what's the ship color out there?
Because if there's a great color out there, you gotta.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Gray is a shiit color? You're gray, you shit color,
the shit color? Back up your mind, you neutral motherfucker.
Today we are joined by the very beautiful and talented
mis Lee. Are we going with Miss Lee?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Hello? That'd be just fun.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
She is the CEO, the boss Lady of Makeup by Aliyah.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
And if she looks familiar, you might have seen her before,
either on Instagram or TikTok doing her tutorials of makeup
and artistry. It is an art form that really doesn't
get enough credit. All around. Makeup used to be derived
from lead paint.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Am I right?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Like, way back in the day, they were putting lead
and makeup and then and then they are wondering why
all the women back then were going crazy, so they
took out the front part of their brains and didn't say.
That's kind of a play by play there. But Lee
Jessica Rennitt, affectionately known as Miss Lee, as a trail
blazing entrepreneur and CEO founder of Makeup by A Lea Cosmetics,

(03:15):
Originally born in Las Vegas. How long were you in Vegas?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
For?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
We left when I was like seven eight years old?

Speaker 5 (03:25):
So what happened in Vegas? Stayed there?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Gotcha know?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, but you are in air Force Brett.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I am, I am, I am and so like I said,
we came here in nineteen seventy seven. Do the separation
my mom and dad they did divorce. So we came
here in seventy seven, and I've been here all my life.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I am a chickasaw graduated in nineteen eighty six.
So yes, chick chicken sauce.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
What did they what's their uh? Their mascot for the Chickasaw.
We had the Indian, the Indian. Okay, so it is
the Chickasaw Indian.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yes, we we were. We had the Indian as our
as our mascot. And so I've been here ever since.
I've been through several jobs, have done several things, and
the main thing that I still work. I do still
work full time and I am into quality. I work
at a steel mill. And I am the only woman

(04:33):
on that meal. Hell yeah, yeah, So I love that.
It was a brand new meal that came here and
I did. I was the first one to ever get
on that meal. So we've been up.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
And running now this February would be nine years.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh you said woman, right, Yes.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I am the only one.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I thought I thought you said Mormon. I'm sorry, I'm like, oh,
well that's a fucking weird statistics.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Steel industry Mormon.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know I'm the only woman.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, no, that's the that's the weird thing, because you
know they'd be like, you know, if they brought you
on stage and they're like, she's the only Mormon here.
I'm like, well, that's that's a weird thing to point out.
Of all the things that point out woman African American.
They're going straight for Mormon, you know, and so I'm like,
what you know, that's why it was obviously Mormon too.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
By the way, are you okay not a I'm sorry? Yeah, no, no,
need to be sorry, No need you should be sorry.
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Some of the some of the most well, we could
tell that you're not a Mormon because you are able
to blink.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're a Mormon.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
They are. So they are never aging. They are never
They're kind of like a Canadian, right, only they are
because the super polite never aging. And you like, where
is this coming from? And eventually they get around to
hey have you heard the power of the Jesus Christ?
And you're like, ah, man, flight lightning, what are you

(06:10):
talking about here?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
And then they give you a little sheet.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, they're they're a they're a much more subtle version
of a Jehovah witness.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Okay, well we don't have Mormons around here, then we
do have plenty of Geovah witnesses.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
You got the she's got the Jehovah colts down there.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
The colts are down there, Well, no, they have some
weird colts down and you're in Arkansas, so you have
you have a lot of I would I would call communities.
Is that what you're is that what they're The nice
word for them is, you know, communities of of Jesus
followers all in the same cove sort of thing, and

(06:50):
they all like kind of hey, yeah, hey, a certain
vig I'll call it a vigue because it feels like
a mafio. So the term.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Are really to be honest, because I'm a self.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Self person, you know, even though I've been here since
all my life, I don't really be around people.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I don't blame you. I'm at work.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm at work and I'm at home.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I live in the country, so there's really nobody like
out here with me.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
So you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
So I I love people. When i'm social media, of course,
you know what I'm saying. I get along really well.
But once the camera is down.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's just about you know, it's just my my private life,
you know what I'm saying. I don't mingle a whole
lot like that. I just never been that type of
a person.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
But when I do get around people, don't get me wrong,
I love talking to people. I love mingling, but I'm
not an out I'm not an outgoing person.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I'm gonna put it like that.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm not the h So the we were talking earlier
before we started up, you said that you have had
your own shop and the mall.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yes, yes, So what what that derived from? When I
when I first got into the makeup one, I had
to really learn it because when I when this came up,
they was doing makeup in a whole different version from
how I was doing makeup back in high school. It
was it was so much, so many steps to it. Now,

(08:25):
so much they was doing. So I got into it,
and then I was accumulating all of this makeup, but
I really wasn't pushing to get it out, excuse me.
And so that was back when my husband, when he
was he was alive, he had broke his hip, so no, no,
let me go back. He had a seizure, a real

(08:45):
bad seizure. So he was out for like a year,
out of work for like a year. And I was like,
we got all this makeup. I got to do something
with it. I got it, you know, I'm just accumulating.
So I called the mall in Memphis, and we had
one closer to us, a mall closer to called Jonesboro, Arkansas.
But they don't allow you to do just like a
pop up weekend thing. You know, you have to be

(09:07):
permanent for six months. I didn't want to do that.
I just wanted to do something for a weekend. So
I did it over in Memphis for the weekend, and
I sow everything nice, so everything you hadn't. So I
waited about maybe four months and then I decided, you
know what, we're we're gonna go head on and get
our own shop.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Let's backtrack a funny bit, and not that I'm trying
to interrupt you by anyways. Yeah, when you said you
accumulated makeup, how did you accumulate the makeup? Was it?
Was it something that like of your personal Like, yeah,
it was.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
My personal brand.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
But I was just steady buying into different makeups because
there's so many you got eyes shadows, you got foundations,
you got concillas, you got you know, you got all
of this out there, and so I was buying into it,
but I wasn't really pushing it to seven you know
what I'm saying. I wasn't giving it the full attention

(10:06):
to do that until I was like, okay, now I'm
over here in Memphis. We got to get get some
of this out of here because I'm just accumulating boxes
and I'm not doing anything with it. So I took
it over there and did a weekend with them and
saw just about everything we had. Everything we had in
the mall, and I'm like, Okay, well this is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
But then I got a little nervous because it was like.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
A two level mall and I was downstairs, and so
that's what I'm like, Okay, I want to stay where
I was. I want to stay in that spot, and
that spot was hot, but they put me upstairs in
front of Macy's. I was like, Okay, we ain't gonna
make it up here. We're not going to make it
because macy sells makeup too.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
They do.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's what That's what I wanted you to get into
a little bit therely with the the mall and how
much money it takes to get the Kiosk going and
keep of permanent residency there, and the pros and cons
of the mall business, because these places will raise your

(11:07):
rent yearly and drive you out of business. So you're
just basically there to do demonstration your machine. Right if
you're if you're kind of new to it now, You'll say,
everybody a lot of time with your experience, you know,
hands on there, but you're basically there to do demonstrations

(11:27):
on what your skill is and what your makeup brand
will actually do for them. Is that's the point where
you got to make a quick impact and get the
hell out of there, because if you linger too long,
if you end up.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Definitely it definitely meant get you. Now, when I first started,
I rented out their kioks. It belonged to them, So
that was a whole lot cheaper to rent out being
like in the owls, not a like in the inside
of a store, like inside of the mall. So if

(12:01):
you're in the owls, that is a whole lot more
cheaper than getting into one of the buildings on the inside.
So that that was that was pretty cheap. And then
that did help us a lot because boz being out
in the open like that, instead of someone happened to
walk in your store to see what is.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Going on, you're already out there in the out.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
So to get it to get the ball rolling, I
had a makeup artist, so I would we, you know,
come to the mall and I wouldn't have makeup on.
I would let her be doing my face. And that's
what was attracting people, you know, to do that. And
so even with with Macy's, it even attracted.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Macy's as to what we were doing.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
And at one point I was even invited to be
part of a like a Christmas thing with Macy's. But
I said, she's not thinking, because that's the interest of conflict,
because that I have my business, selling my brand and
makeup and then they all have the big scale makeup
inside of there, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, yeah, the big name which they have the.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Big names in there.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I you know, she wasn't thinking, and I'm like, she'll,
she'll think about it once once this gets started, But
then she did. But the thing about Macy's what I
loved about it the people in there. They were sending
a lot of their clients to me, and a lot
of the clients was refunding the makeup they bought.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
In Macy's to come and get what I had. Now, the.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
After that I did buy into a Kiosk. Now, the
more square footage that.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
You get on the floor expensive.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
The more expensive that it gets, you know, so you
have to sign those contracts six.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Months or or up to a year, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I would just do like six months at a time,
just to make sure that, you know, we could handle
what was going on. But when COBE came, yeah, they
gave us a little break, and I was still paying.
They shut it down for a little while, but I
was still You guys still pay their rent yep.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, And that should have been now right off the rip.
If no one is allowed to operate, all rent should
have been frozen exactly, or the government should have subsidized
all the rent in the world. They know how much
everybody's making too. The IRS could have just done a
copy and paste and said, there's the number there. It
is from last year, so increase it by two percent

(14:35):
or a little bit lower than inflation, so that way
you don't have to do certain stupid things like have
the Fed print more bonds and buy the bonds that
they're printing. That was such a stupid idea. And then
now they're forcing the banks to kind of over expand
into uncomfortable territory where they're literally trying to figure out

(14:57):
how to move three hundred and fifty the billion dollars.
And they found out two hundred and fifty billion dollars
of it by chunking it over to Ukraine there on
the play by play. But that's that's a whole other
different story.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, that's a.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Whole fucking thing right there. But clee, how has TikTok
been revolutionary and really fun for you all around?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Well?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
One, you do have to get a thousand followers before
you can even click the line.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
But you have to be consistent.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
You know, you can't go live today and no I
go live two weeks later on.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Just you have to be very consistent.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
If you're not going to do lives, you definitely have
to keep throwing your product out there.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Keep throwing your product out there. Now.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I used to have a PR team, but I dismantled
it after my husband passed away because you have to
pay them.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Now.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
The good thing about TikTok is they can take your product.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
If they can do lives, they can.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Take your product, pin it down below on their lives
and they just make commission that TikTok pays them.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I don't have to worry about them, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
But the good thing about it was I kept just
being consistent, kept doing my lives, kept getting out there,
and I was then able after I got so many followers,
I was able to get a TikTok shop and put
my items on there. So I'm steady pushing, steady pushing,
selling here and there, but not at the mass majority

(16:34):
like you see some do.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
But I stay consistent. So I had this. Let me
show you this. I had.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
This is These are called blushes. So I had this
in my beauty room right here. It's been sitting down
here for maybe a year, and I never did anything
with it. I knew it was good, and I'm like,
I'm gonna come out with this one day. I'm gonna
come out with this one. And this one day I
decided this is the day. So when I came out

(17:01):
with this palette, I had, a young lady was on
my live and I.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Told, okay, well we got it in stock ready for
you all to buy. So she bought it. I had
no idea who she was. She tagged me.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
She went viral displaying doing the content on this palette.
So I get up the next morning, I'm on my
way to work and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna
get up and say something, a little something something in
front of the camera and post it and then I'm
heading to work and then I went viral. So after

(17:33):
that this palette started just going viral like crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Miss Lee.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Can I introduce you to a Can I introduce you
to a marketing blitzkrieg that you're going to love?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I would love it?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
And this is the younger generation has been kind of
waiting for this one.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
It's called a drop. Okay you heard of it or no? Okay?
So what happens is there's a countdown of when your
next makeup line or your next thing is going to
drop and sent out mass emails. It gives you something
to not only talk about while you're doing your normal

(18:17):
content on the latest drop, but it builds up anticipation
for your latest brand drop. If you do a hashtag
drop or hashtag newest drop, it'll catch fire like that,
especially when branding, especially when self brandingly yourself. Okay, okay,

(18:37):
got it, you got I would do it that way.
Drake Rapper Drake has been doing these drops. Shoe companies
have been doing these shoe drops for a long time.
Makeup companies as well have been doing these drops and
for you to do your own Miss Lee's drop of
the week, drop of the month, however often you want
to do it, make it as rare or as frequent

(18:58):
as possible, pop it in there, and that the idea
of beIN and honestly, it'll work out great for you
because if you just had that blush kit there, or
if it's something old or just a product that you've
already been working on through the color wheel. And I'm
sure you're familiar with the color wheel, right, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, so you could.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, fall season coming up, you have Christmas season coming up,
You have a lot of things coming up. So branding
it or even marketing it where you could just say,
like a buy your friend some makeup for the Thanksgiving
Day because we're all going to see each other, We're
all going to be around the table. Even if that's
not the case for everybody the image in their head

(19:41):
of thinking to themselves, oh, I have to attend Thanksgiving
because I want to show everybody how good I'm going
to look sort of thing. So you would be the
nucleus of why families are getting together, So that way
you can all show off of beautiful everybody's looking and
all that nice stuff and then they can and then

(20:01):
they can all argue politics and bullshit like that. You know,
they can get around the table and still under five
minutes you can look yeah, but still look, it's not
the person who's the most right who wins the argument.
It's the best looking person who wins the argument. No
matter what they're saying. This is uh, this is Family

(20:29):
of Economics number one on one. You know, you can say, like,
you know, you know Uncle Ray over there, you know
he uh, he made some valid points, but he doesn't
look so good.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
How long ago anybody that?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Because we came out with that, and then I sold
out with like in two weeks, and then I came
back and doubled what I bought the first time.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I sold that out in a week. So now we're
getting ready to drop.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
But again but also we we do have some new
items that are coming out and I'm really excited about
those as well.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
It's actually called of my my my signature suitcase.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Oh look at that makeupcase.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yes, and so what when you open it up, you
it will be filled with your eye shadows, your your lippies,
your whole nine yard. So this is my demo and
I wanted it before I buy antenna. I'm like, I
got to see that thing first. Let me let me
see the quality of it first. Is it gonna work?
You know what I'm saying. And so when he sent
me the demo, I was like, let's go, let's build,

(21:43):
let's do it. So we have in the making. And
so when you actually open it, and I said, like
I said, it's a demo, so I haven't cut out
for everything that. You know, they're gonna put their eye
shallow palet here, they'll put their nippies there. You have
the brushes down here, and.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
You have your own do you have you have your
own products that specifically fit in those purposes?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yes, it will be so much would how much would
that go for?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm guessing this.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Is going for one. This will be one twenty five
and so actually it won't be white. It will be
a different color. And it's going to be called naturally seasoned.
Natural okay, because we have the.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Fall coming in.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
But also I called it naturally seasoned because a lot
of women do make up for healing. A lot of
women go are there going through divorces or just you know,
just bad breakups or losing someone.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Or you got some women that are heavy and they
they want to lose weight.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
They don't have confidence, they don't you know, So it's
called naturally seasoned.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
So is that's like our.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Breakout time for for all women, that's just our breakout
time to feel beautiful, to feel confident, to know that
we can do whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I said the statement today, I said the statement today,
and I feel like it's like Kismat that it happens
to come come forward once again. And I said, everybody
wants to be loved. Yes, everybody wants to feel feel
like I want to. They want to, They want that acceptance,
they want the majesty that comes along with it. Everybody

(23:27):
wants confidence, everybody wants love. They all want the you
know that whole situation.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yes, And it's it's so much it's so much hatred
out there right now that we are saying, we are
saying every and any on social media, and we're not
realizing how that is really affecting someone.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Words can really hurt and and you don't even have
to know them, you know what I'm saying. But it's
it's how we're acting.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
And so when I'm seeing women that are on TikTok
and they are doing a makeup and I have a
lot of people that are coming to my inbox.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well, what how is it to go live? What does
it feel like to go live?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
And then somem like, I'm scared to go live because
Miss Lee, You'll get people on there and they're start
attacking you.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But it's just the way I handle them. Do you
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Because I'm at that season, I'm not gonna let anybody
bother me.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
You're not gonna You're not gonna bother my. Peace.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Now we're gonna backtrack. I am training.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, Jeff, You've got you gotta know how to handle people.
At the same time.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Miss Lee, we have our own we have our own
branding here at the Pod Guy's podcast. Sparky is our
on our live version of an artist. He has done
sculptors of Silly Puddy before and uh pottery, uh barns
full of pottery, uh sort of thing. He is the
artist of artists and Sparky has got something on his

(24:56):
big board. He travels throughout the whole entire week to
find the craziest stories and then read draws them out.
Sometimes he just draws what we're talking about. He's a
man of mystery and sparking. Flip that big board around,
show mislead what you got there on you? So is that, Hey, Ray,
do you like the new colors of makeup?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Make up?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
This is not.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
A good old good stuff. Yeah, it's uh so, it's
definitely I would say.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
That when you're in your line of h of work
right there in business, the being a woman is definitely
an advantage because if a guy like myself.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Goes up to a woman who's looking.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Very sad and I say, hey, maybe you should wear
more makeup, it's not gonna come off very sympathetic at all.
You know, they're gonna keep They're gonna cry even harder.
Trust me, I've tried it.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know you have to do. It's just the approach,
you know what I'm saying. And I feel really blessed.
I would like to use that word that I'm able
to reach women and bring them out of this the
low self esteem, you know what I'm saying, and give
them the confidence. Everybody is not the best at doing makeup,

(26:17):
trust me, everybody you know can't do all these techniques.
But when you just give yourself a try and That's
all it takes in the world is just just to
step out of your box and just try, you know,
and then be surprised of how many women come back.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I thank you.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
I thank you, you know, because I was going through
this and I was going through that, and now I
want to try to get back into my makeup.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I want to feel better about myself.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Prepared as Yeah, I can be broken as I'll get out,
but when I'm fixed all up, I feel like a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
You know what I'm saying. I feel you wouldn't even
know I was broken.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Well, you look like a million bucks right now.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Thank you. You wouldn't even know I was broken.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
My question is for this, right the women, and not
necessarily that that I'm picking on anybody in particular, but
there are some women that look like they put their
makeup on with a paintball.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Gun, okay, and they need some help.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
They need help, yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
How do you approach that, you know, as far as
the paint roller eyebrow situation where it's like twelve inches
thick eyebrow situation going.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Across their former you try to just be so nice
about it and you just let them know, you know,
you kind of you may need to take a class
because you do have a lot of women that teach.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
And I have women that come.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Do you teach?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
How you know?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Some people they just they get on my lot all
we caught you doing your brows today finally because they
want to learn, you know what I'm saying, So.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
They have to take a class.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
And then some you can't tell them nothing because they
really think they look good, so you can't. You.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, that is a real that is a real thing.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Now you're now, you're you have seen throughout time different
phases of the seventies, eighties, nineties, two thousand, early two thousands.
We're in twenty twenty five right now, and there are
still women out there that are keeping the old mid
to late eighties poof in her thirties, by the way,

(28:22):
you have you have, I wish surely so they still
have that poof thing going on now.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
They're still like taking like the pilcil and you know
and drawing the eye, just making one.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Line going, you know, drawing curious. Look, I wanted to
look curious.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That late Elizabeth, that late Elizabeth Taylor kind of look.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, and you know what, and I'm to be honest,
with you.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I look at some celebrities.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
When I get close upon and I can look at
some Celebritium like who did they make it?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
It?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Sometimes it just be ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well, I would say that the makeup professionals there because
they're they're all professionals. But the celebrities, it's tough when
they're doing so many drugs. The skin doesn't act the same.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah it doesn't, it does, you know?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean, but sometimes the coma we.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Have, this is how they're doing your face, It just
be ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
When doing I've been on the acting for She's twenty
two years now and stand up comedy, all that nice
stuff for fifteen years. The makeup artists on different movies
says they're always very professional, but they had one common
denominator of one person who's a celebrity who was always

(29:49):
very angry with the work that they've done, no matter what.
And this celebrity is Katie Couric. Really couldn't believe, Yeah,
couldn't believe. It couldn't be because she seems such like
a sweet person. When I think she was doing the
Today Show at that time, so she did that job. Yeah,
well this was the thing she when she was doing

(30:11):
the late night news kind of thing, right, they switched
her over from Today Show to late night, which is
kind of like, given Britney Spears the young Britney Spears,
that's kind of like giving Britney Spears a depressing emo
song to sing instead of bubblegum music.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It didn't fit sort of thing. It's just a whole
new tone.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
So I always thought that she was very good at
delivering the news in a very nice and bashful way.
But after hearing that where she's literally bitching. I mean,
you know about the makeup not just this isn't just
from one makeup artist that I've heard of from. This
is from like seven different makeup artists, because and I

(30:53):
always ask the same question them, I'll get makeup done, like,
oh so, who was like the worst person you've ever
taken care of?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Just a bullshit with them, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
And that's the one name that has always said never,
never anybody else's name, never anyone else's name. Nicest person
they said that they've ever had to do makeup on
was Kurt Russell. That was That's always uh one of
the names. Even when it comes to actors like Warren
bub had to work with Kurt Russell at one time,

(31:22):
and he said he was just one of the most
professional guys.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
To just hang out with. But uh yeah, the Katie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Have you done any famous famous people's uh makeup or
now we have?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
No, we haven't.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's all right, right, that's all right. They they should
come here, not yet. We're gonna cut into Spurky's picture
over on the side. Here. Let's see what what the
good old fashion guru has to say. Lace mark.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Get ready? Whoa?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Now that that is like the worst. That is like
the worst makeup right there? That is the worst right there?
Tell me fake Baker one of the worst. But she
was proud of it though.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Lee, I have to ask, out of all the makeup
trends that they have coming out recently, what is your
least favorite, because why does it have to be the
caterpillar eyelash thing?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Oh yeah, the caterpillar eyelash.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, the eyelash.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well, they just take like it looks like they took
a magic mark.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
You know, I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I don't know why they do that.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
And now is like they are doing like cosmetic whise
with that.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Know they're making them permanent and and sometimes you know,
like me and my sister, I don't I just do
it for laughs. I don't shouldn't be funny, but we'll
we'll be like screenshotting.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Did you see this? What? And it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
And like I said, it just goes back to some
of the women do not want to be corrected.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Correct Some of them just they just thinking.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
They're looking good and this and this that, and then
when they be trying to I'm like, how dare you
try to teach someone and you know that don't look
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Another another venture, another lane, another lane. You might want
to consider that, maybe have maybe you haven't considered.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
And it's a it's.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
A big area that's always growing, not maybe in Arkansas,
but online ventures as well. What's that makeup specifically meant
for drag queens?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I get a lot of those.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, I get a lot of that because they wear
the same we do the men do.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
But for as the eyebrows go, they take.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Glue the school blue and you know they do that
to make it disappear with the powders and all of that.
But when I came out with that palette, I was
so shocked to see how many men and drag queens bought.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
That palt Yeah. Yeah, and it's a it's a real
it's a growing industry.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
It is a very growing industry. And I'm telling you now,
men can just about put that bakeup on better than women.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Mh.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
They can do a remarkable job.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean another thing they're taken from you.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Serious.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
They can put that makeup on and that hair weave
and all of that. They can look and some of
them they look so good you don't even know that
they're ment.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You could do a TikTok live male to fe email
drag transformation.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. It is crazy.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
It is so many, especially if you're on TikTok late
at night and you watch it.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh yeah, I would. I would watch that. I mean
I would be like, oh wow, holy crap.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
It's impressing to me how they can the transformation. And
that's one thing that I really really love about makeup.
You can definitely like redo your whole face and people
don't even know it is you. You can scope yourself
to the tee and people really.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Is that is that?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I thought that was you know, what I'm saying, So
makeup is so revolving, and it is so it is
a whole different level from the sixties, fifty sixties and seventies.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I'm telling you, even like even way back in the
day with and still still very prevalent in the movie
and entertainment business. To make people, uh look like a
lizard or any any kind of sci fi alien, they
need constantly to get the colors correct towards the lighting

(36:12):
of the character.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
So that's different because like I'm doing just like regular makeup,
but then you do have the costan type like makeups correct.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, Madonna stayed up on the top of the charts
for a long time. Yeah she has, Yeah, she has.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I'm like when when Robert de Niro got too old
for makeup, they're like, maybe we'll just put a computer
on your face, you know, and they're like, there, he's
forty two.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I know, I know, I know, we could have just
cast in somebody that was that age, But why not,
why not get the get the get the ninety year
old boys back together for one more four hour movie.
Because Scorsese decided not to edit after the age of eighty, he.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
So much.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
The way.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
You can only do so, you can only do so much.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
And that is even like when you get older with
the wrinkle lines and this and that, and you know,
and you have to basically when you're wearing makeup, you
definitely have to take care of your skin.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
You you definitely the.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Moisturizing of your skin, the exfoliating of your skin. You
have to take care of your skin. Because I've seen
some they have hard texture. Their skin is so texturized
that you know, it doesn't look that.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Smooth, you know, on there.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
So that's that's so I can imagine, especially when it
comes to all of the different types of makeup they
use on movie sets and stuff, they definitely have to
take care of their skin with that.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
No, are you a fin or a purveyor of botox
for for the make up lines as well?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Or I'm not a fan of it, No, because I
think after a while it becomes too much. It's like
they get so addicted that they don't know when to stop.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
And the makeup is not going to help you, you know.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Once you blowing the cheeks out, especially the lips out,
that makeup just looks awful. It's not going to help
you at all. So I'm not really with that Boltox.
Just love yourself, love who you are, deal with with
with who you are, you know, because now you're finding
it a lot of people are having so many complications.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
But I think you make a great point there when
I think it's there's no real shortcuts that there should
be when you're living a healthy life and uh, you
know you want to have some makeup to enhance your beauty,
that's perfectly fine. But to go and stick a needle
in your face, it's taking it. It's taking it to

(38:59):
a new life.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
See, yeah, they used to They used to make makeup
out of mercury compounds. You remember that idea, Yeah, the
whole history of the of the situation. But now they
take a needle to your face constantly. I get these
things sometimes on on Facebook and rolling through you'll see
like an ad for people that are putting in these

(39:23):
plug in denture kind of things, and you can tell,
you can tell the people that are promoting it most
have ran through every drug in the world. And then
they're like, and now I don't know why I don't
got any teeth, you know, So now they got like
the whitest of teeth and like the shaggiest of skin.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
They're like, like, what the hell happens?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Holy crap?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Why does your You can't you want to look you
want to kind of match up to yourself all all around.
Have you ever had somebody's teeth be the only problem,
you know, messing up with their makeup where it's like
a yellow kind of filter going on there, not a
whole lot.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
But be honest, though, when I got in I started
wearing braces. I got back into start wearing braces because
I had one tooth.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I feel like it just wouldn't have lined up, So
I just did braces.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
But that's a whole different ballgame instead of having all
of my teeth pulled out and getting all these veneers
and all of that. And you have people that actually
go that far, you know what I'm saying, because they
want everything to be so perfect.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
But did you ever hear that? Did you ever hear
that old joke?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
A woman goes into a psychic, right, and the psychic
she says, well, how long am I going to live?
The psychic says, oh, you're going to live one hundred
years old. And the woman says, oh my god, this
is amazing. So when she leaves she says, oh, well,
since I'm going to be living so long, I might
as well start looking good. So she goes and gets
her her boobs done. She dyes her hair from brown

(40:53):
to blonde. She gets a spray ten, she gets her
lips done, she gets a Brazilian butt lift. And on
the way out from the Brazilian butt lift, she crosses
the street and bam, gets hit by a car and dies.
Goes up to the pearly gates and uh, she says
to God. She says, God, why am I dead? I
went to the psychic and she says I was going
to live until I was one hundred years old. And

(41:14):
God says, yeah, you were supposed to. She says, well
what happened? He's like, well, we were looking out for
you and we barely recognized you down there.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
So.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
We didn't know. We didn't know who we was going.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, they were keeping you know, they're keeping tabs.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yeah, and that's what I'm telling you, Like I said,
these women are really going to the extreme.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
They are.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
They are really really going to the extreme to keep
themselves beautiful.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
The other the other name is, you know, if you
really want to know what you're if you really want
to know your day looks like take her swimming, you
know with all the.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Makeup, all the makeup runs up. But are there waterproof
makeups out there?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Proof makeup out of there?

Speaker 4 (42:01):
But even though it is, I'm telling you, they're not
gonna get in that water.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
They're not. They're not gonna want to still get wet,
you know.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Is But like mascaro, mascara has definitely come a long
way from how it used to be.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Back then, you know they just start crying or in
the movies and you got all this black stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Just running everybody coning it all up.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, now you can cry. Your maskara ain't moving, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, they have come
a long way from back in the day make up,
you know, And then we didn't even have enough sense
to know. Back then, we was just putting on foundation.
But we didn't know, oh, you got to set to
keep from running all over the place. You got to
set it with some powders.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
We didn't know how to do all that.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
The uh so women used to in Pennsylvania were very
coal bound. So what they used to take is the
old ash from the coal and like pat it around
I get that they get that smoky kind of look.
It would standing there all day and cause eye cancer.
But that's all right.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Once again, that smoky great A small a small price
to pay.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Yeah, so meccam has definitely it is definitely come a
long way. I mean you will find people, Uh, they're
coming up with new techniques all the time to create.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Something around the eye. The lips look more better.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
We're gonna we're gonna get into new techniques. Sparky's got
a board real quick. We're gonna go to Sparky's board,
and then we're gonna ask you. You can mentally prepare right
now of the worst new technique you've seen out there.
Sparky hit the board real quick, he's got it. Are
you ready to tattoo.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
The same night? A quil? Okay, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, most tattoo artists are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
True, you said the worst was the question again.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
What is the worst new technique? And I think Sparky
kind of just answered that right there.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Yeah, well, depending on who doesn't you got some They
come out so beautiful, but I don't I don't really
care for how some of them do the nose or
what they're calling sculpting nose like high.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
They make it. Well, when we're contouring.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
The nose, I put it like that contour and to
make the nose smaller, so if you make it appear
like it's smaller, I put it like that. But some
of them is it just be like too two fake looking, uh,
you know, the of the contouring of it. And I
think those are two of the worst. The nose and

(44:47):
definitely the brows. It's always the brows. They just some.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I just don't understand how they go out.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
There are some people that do the contouring and the
sculpting and the high and they still look like sand mummies. Yeah. Crazy.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Well, if you don't know how to correctly use the
right foundation versus getting the right conciler versus getting the
right powders, you look a hot mess. And that's where
the time comes in where you have to like work
like really offline. If I'm trying something new, I'm gonna

(45:25):
try it offline to see if I can get it
to work like something.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
But I thought I thought the time was.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I thought that's when the time was that they buy
missus Lee's makeup products.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
And that is true too. That's how they get it better.
And that's the one thing I do. I teach with
that because I do have a foundation line with that,
and like some of them, they're like, just I.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Want to I think this is gonna look right. Let
me see this. No, I don't like people to do that.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
I like for people to get samples so you will
know that that foundation is exactly right for you.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I can go from there.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Can I add something real quick to you?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And I think this is a groundbreaking idea for your
your makeup box on the outside of the box. Could
you get a QR code printed on those boxes, right,
a little sticker that goes directly to your TikTok so
that way it can help people with their makeup journey.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
I haven't thought about it, but yeah I could, or
either the back from the bottom.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Maybe back in the box if you have like a
YouTube tutorial. Yeah, yeah, you're doing like yeah, something like that.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, that's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, this way they're not just getting quality makeup at
a great price, they're also getting you for you know,
your purposes of helping them apply the makeup.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, I like it. No, I do hold a great
ideas here. I do have a question from the mail
perspective and and it it is how do you choose
what color pellettes and sensations and materials and stuff like
that that you use for your makeup foundations and not
necessarily your foundations, but all your color palettes in general.

(47:11):
Do you buy like like and not to say like
by when you when you procure your makeup line, do
you go with a particular like color wheel of some
sort and then you're just like, oh, we'll make this
into the color like a color wheel of blushes or

(47:32):
you know, lippies.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Well, I try to go with what is trending, but
what I don't do is buy into what is already
put together. So basically what I do I have like
maybe over one hundred or two hundred of individual eyeshadows
that you know, and so when I get into creativity,

(47:54):
you know, I just lay them all out and what
comes to mind or whether I'm doing something for a
how day, whether I'm just doing something I need, you
need something for every day. And then you're listening to
what the customers are really needing, especially when they are beginners.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
They don't want colors.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
They they want neutral tones because neutral tones is just
more more to me, more sexy damn grades. Yeah, it's
just more it's just more sexy, and it's more easier
for them to grasp a whole and learn how to
start building before they start getting into all them different

(48:32):
types of colors.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, you don't when you're when you're doing the makeup.
You want to you want you want to start subtly,
you want to guard. It's just like building a house,
telling you exactly don't want you don't want your ship
looking like pee Wee's playhouse by the time you're done
with that and your goddamn chairs talking on your face, I'd.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Be telling people you don't want to start with colors
because you got to know how to put those colors
together you got And the worst thing, Oh my god,
blending blending the eye shadow man, Man, I don't seen
some and I'm like, I don't understand. You want to
come through the come through the screen, blend it you

(49:10):
you ain't dead.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You just throw that blended blended?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Are you blushed? Are you that blending with a brush?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, the rushing.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
There's all the brushes you know from you know that
you have to use, and some of them they use
the wrong brush and they just pack it on and
eye shadows have to merge together.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
You shouldn't when I'm putting on a different shade over here.
There shouldn't be like a line this side of the
water and this.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
You know what I'm saying. It should be able to
blend together.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
So you definitely do have to know the color wheel,
not only for colors, but you need to know the
color wheel for your neutral tones as well. So basically,
when I'm doing something, I throw all of my eye
shadows from shimmers, you have mats, and you have glitters
and what you have Douach chromes. So I'm throwing those

(50:06):
all out there and I'm just trying to put together
something that is going to be fun, but yet at
the same time that they will.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Be able to to work with.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
So right now, like I said, we're coming out with
like with a fall palette, but yet not just all browns.
I'm trying to throw in the shades that will actually
accommodate the browns, your fall colors, your greens, your.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Reds, you have your red you know.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, you have you have rust is making a comeback, yes,
and that's in.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
There too, So not just like browns.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
You're going into like your I call them like your
burnt oranges, your your rusty browns, your light browns. So
you you you got to know how to accommodate that.
And then a lot of my looks come from too.
I can look at maybe a shirt, a color for
shirt or something like that.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Or I have like tons of wigs all on the
wall over here.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I can look at wigs and you can get examples
from there.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, when you when you're going with the face and
and this this is the main event right here, right,
it's the main event. Then you you can dress from
that point. So you go makeup on the face first,
then you go clothing after the fact.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Yeah, and I'm so I'm looking at like what I
got on, or I may look at a certain wig hmm,
I want to probably do something with that.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
This is this is perfect because your background is even
just showing us how much of a sense of fashion
you really do have, and including my own. Right now,
I have a mono, I have a I have a monochromatic.
I have a monochromatic background here black white, not a
lot of color going on intentionally, you have a lot
of color going.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
On, a lot of color yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
It all works together in its own way to Sparky
has toys behind him right now, where as a creepy background,
you're wondering what Sparky's toys were. They're all Star Wars
themed Funko pops. So yeah, right is he is Star
Wars right now?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
He needs to be in the next Star Wars movie.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
And the way that things are going with the franchise,
that's not even an out of bounds idea.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
That's a great idea, by the way, great idea.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Yeah, so ideas just come from it. Now. You do
want to keep up with the trend of what everybody else.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Is doing, you do, you know what I'm saying, But
you want to be creative. You want to be different
what somebody else put out. You want to you know,
give your own little twist to it. Because when I
first started this, and I didn't know no better. So
when I first started, I would buy into whatever palette

(52:54):
they already had put out. And then once you start
getting on social media, like wait a minute, I got
the same palette. So that's what broke me right there,
from buying into what somebody has put out. And then
this is what people have to understand too, what the
because most of this comes from China.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
So basically what they do is they take.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That same brand, that same palette or a brush or
whatever it is, and they throw it on TikTok, Amazon, whatever.
They won't have a name on it, you know what
I'm saying, And then but they can sell it for
little or nothing because they they done made the product,
you see what I'm saying. So you have to be

(53:37):
very careful of what you're choosing to put out on
the market in order to make your mark on it.
And if the packaging is good, then they know the
product is good. If you come up with a good something,
they're going to buy it.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
They don't care what the price is.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Well, not just that, though, miss Lee. The thing is
that people aren't just buying the product. They're buying buy
you you exactly. Your personality, your outlook on fashion, makeup,
and everything that's included in that area is what they're
trusting in yourself. You're not and you yourself right now,

(54:20):
you're not saying anything that isn't on point. So you
know we're gonna, you know, get into it, Tony, what's
going on?

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I was looking into key ingredients, you know of course
from facial makeup. Yeah, yeah, And I guess my main
question would be is when you're when you're looking into,
you know, putting your own spin on makeup products, and
you're you're buying into products, is there anything that you

(54:51):
avoid in particular, such as like talcs or any type
of like the heavy creams. Do you do you not
do the heavy creams or is it just like.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Or facial wise, like foundations, I don't want it heavy,
so we're I always test it and then we don't
want it to be oxidized so much like with an
orange pigment pigmentation to it, because not all foundations are
the best foundations because once you get it on, you're
looking more orange, you have that more orange undertone. So

(55:28):
I definitely I try things first. I just don't buy
into stuff. I get things in and I try it out,
and I test it for like thirty days, especially if
it's going on my lips or on my face, because
I gotta make sure that it's not gonna break nobody
else out. Oh it's gonna cause no kind of reaction,
make you itch or do.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Anything like that.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
So I'm always reading the ingredients, but I want to
test it and some things I get in as samples,
I can just look at it. I'm like, I'm not
fooling with this, you know, I'm not even gonna fool
with this because it's not even quality.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
So quality is more important to me than than anything.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
And then of course now they're making just about everything
like cruelty free. You know, they used to you know,
test on animals and byproducts and all that kind of stuff,
and now everything is just more cruelty free. Some people,
like with the chrome eyeshadows, some people can't wear the chrome,

(56:27):
the chromes because they say it breaks them out.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah, so even though we do do.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Some chromes in some of our eyes shadow palettes, uh,
they're not at the point where they're harming a lot
of people.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
They're not harming them at all.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
So I'm very I'm very the layer glue over and
then pop the chrome in that way or.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
No, well chrome chrome is this? Yeah, you see how
shiny that is.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
It's an eye shadow, but it's just chrome. Some people
even wearing his lipsticks. It's just depending on the.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Funky look that they're they're going after.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
But yeah, when we're layering down, we lay down what
we call an abase before before we even n something
like this. This is called the ibase, or you can
use something like this. This is called a conciller. So
you're gonna lay this down and you know, and they'll
take what a hot second for it to drive before

(57:32):
you start putting on your eye shadow. The reason for
that is we didn't used to do that, Like way
back in the day. We just put the eye shadow on.
It's gonna make the eye shadow pop. It's gonna make
the color pop, you know, be true to color. And
then it's not gonna crease. It's not gonna crinkle up

(57:53):
the shadow. So know how many times I blink or
how hot it get or whatever.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
This is not gonna run and it's not gonna crinkle up.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
On and it's gonna last for hell of hours, hell
of a long hours. Yeah, So that's that's why we
we go through all what we do, because like I say,
back in the day, all of this will be running
or be crinkled all up and just looking a mess.
So now they're coming up with techniques to help everything

(58:22):
stay intact.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Looks good.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
There are they're officially and now it's sparky. You're gonna
have a little fun with this one. As far as
the drawing is concerned, I'll let you show the board
real quick before I go into it, because you're gonna
have a little You're gonna have a little draw off
on this one.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Madonna's new makeup Ree, Why isn't it green?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
And smell light? Nevermind?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Oh, poor Madonna.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Now there are there's a fine fine line when it
comes to makeup and the ingredients that happen to be
in makeup as well. There are seven gross ingredients that
are found in cosmetics and these are the top seven

(59:16):
particular ingredients that are found in makeup. Number one is
the cocaneil beetle.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Beetle. The beetle, Yeah, it's a cocon eial beetle. If
you're using makeup that has carmine in the in the
ingredient list, it means that the color is derived from
the cocaineial beetle. The insects are native to Mexico and
are crushed to release their vibrant red dye. Now that

(59:46):
that also comes into it was actually found in food
and drink ingredients as well, and it was up to
recently in Starbucks drinks and strawberries and cream. Frappic Chino's
until they stopped using it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
But if you like burns bees wax for the lip
lip wax, it was found in Burt's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Buh their lip bomb, their lip bomb? Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Number two is snail ooze. Snail ooze yeah, number of
anti aging skin cream contained the slimey gel left behind
snails on the move. Uh. The mucus like secretion is
primarily marketed as an acne treatment, but it's supposed to
be good for healing scars and burns in deeply moisturizing skin.

(01:00:48):
So that sounds like it's organic ooze. Am I right,
it's organic snail trail. Nice? Nice? But the color is
there grows?

Speaker 7 (01:00:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Uh. Number three is a something infant foreskin whoa yeah yeah.
Baby foreskins contain a protein called epidermal growth factor or
EGF that high end spas like to use an anti

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aging skin firming treatment. The GF.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
The EGF can be formulated using other ingredients such as
human tissue like skin and kidneys and stem cells that
have been taken from newborn foreskins and cloned for cosmetic use.
That's a lot of gross they're taking lord. Yeah. Number
four works into mink oil. Now, I don't know if

(01:01:52):
you you know what the mink is, but it is
a lovely animal and it's been used in comedic cosmetics
and hair products since the nineteen fifties. The high class ferret. Right,
it's a high class ferret. You're right, it's yeah. Yeah.
They make jackets and coats out of the mink.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
And ferrots make rabies and children, you know, I don't
know how my kid got rabies.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
We owned seven ferrets. No shots. Cosmetics and skin reports
that the discovery was made when mink farmers hands became
incredibly soft after killing the animals. Despite later research showing
that mink oil is really no more effective than a
plant based oil, it continued to be added to cosmetics

(01:02:37):
mostly because of its glamorous prestige, and unfortunately, still to
this day, although on small quantities, is still used today,
believe it or.

Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
Not, real fancy stores, real, I only use the finest
mink oi.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, that's the finest, right there.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Number Number five works into ambergris. And I don't know
if you've ever heard of this fancy term, but ambergris
is a traditional fixative ingredient used in expensive perfume, and
it's ejected by sperm whales as a black slurry that

(01:03:20):
floats on the ocean surface and eventually solidifies into a
rock like substance that washes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Up on shoreline. So it's a it's whale vomit effectively,
it's whale vomit that solidifies and becomes a hard rock
like substance. You find it on the beach, and it's
pound for pound, one of the most expensive it is, yeah,

(01:03:50):
substances on the planet pound for pound, which is really
really crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I mean, well, if you're a makeup company, wouldn't you
just want to buy a couple of whales just to
you know, have them around a puke every once in
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Well, sperm whales are very much so a endangered species.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Oh well, then get a man and a male and
a female one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Get them fucking you know, like give me then you're
going to start a new sea world. Like they're like, oh,
they're endangered.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
If only we knew how to make these things fuck, Like, dude,
are you crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Play some berry white in the background to have give
them a bottle of wine?

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I don't know, man, that is crazy crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Number second and number six is tallow now. Tallow is
a very fun uh fantastic thing from cows. Uh Tallo
is a hard fatty substance made from the rendered cow kircus.
You know. Though it's not considered toxic to human health,
it is obviously a problem for vegans who do not
want to use animal byproducts. But Environment Canada calls it

(01:04:59):
suspected and environmental toxin. Now. The the derivatives include sodium talloweight,
tello acid, teloamide, talowamine, uh tallow with talloglycerides, and tallow
a midazoline. They're all some sort of tallow based product.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Mistley, have you ever had a vegan ask you if
there is meat in your makeup?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
No, I don't think so. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
If they do, if they even want it. If they do,
just tell them no, of course not. What are you crazy?
Even if there is, you know, I'd just be like,
just put.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
We never had that one before.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Well. Number seven wraps it all up. Kevin. If you've
thought plastic, you were right, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
The ingredient we.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
Cannot seem to escape, of course, no matter how hard
we try, plastic appear. It's a new form such as teflon. Yes,
the non stick pan coating.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Uh, the e w G has found the teflon in foundation, sunscreen, moisturizer, eyeshadow,
bronzer highlighter, facial powder, sunscreen, makeup, mascara ant.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Is this why, Tony? Is this why female on female
fights when they're at the bar are always a little
uh slippery because they can a little a little bit. Yeah,
maybe nonstick faces right there. Maybe everyone's like, I don't
know if this is a good fight or they're just

(01:06:40):
really bad at this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I don't know. I don't know that that's crazy growth ingredients,
of course, I.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Think to me, I think when you get those type
of ingredients that that is something like we was talking
about the bowtops and all of that. That's for them
thinking that's going to be good for them. I guarantee
you those ain't so here. Those are sold probably in
your your rip off high class makeup lines, you know,

(01:07:15):
or make up stores you know better. Yet in the
in the in the what what is the name of
the guy the guy that's doing the operation?

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
He got on his own little store in there telling
that mess.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Yeah, Lee, I have to ask, And this is going
to be our final question of the night, because unfortunately
we're at our ends. Okay, Uh, Sparky, He's got one
more thing to show up on the big board before
I go into my question.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Okay, go ahead, spark.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Hmm, we need to go on fear Factor just to
do make up in the morning. Pete Babyski what pe
baby ski in.

Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
In things insects, baby nail trill plastic?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
What's next?

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
It doesn't sound like Tony was reading off a fear
Factor challenge right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
The old early.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Two thousands show hosted by Joe Rogan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Yeah, So there are many of icon in the fashion
world right now, and the one that has made the
most headlines so far was Kim Kardashian and her Skims products.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Are you familiar with the with the Skims line?

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Yeah, but I'm not a follower of the Kim Kardashian
line or her or her sister. She has her sister
had went very made billions. The baby sister, I think
it was, but I was I was never like a

(01:08:55):
big fan of it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
And another thing, I wasn't like a big fan of
going to like the Oldti Beauty's and all of that,
you know, to do make up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
But the only person that really inspired me is because
she started out. Of course, if you are Kardashian, you
the name itself is just there for them. You know
what I'm saying, There's no no trouble with putting their
stuff out on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Like absolutely, You're absolutely right. They have They have so
many more times to fail without consequence than anyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
So the one person that expired me more than anything.
And you can look her up. They call her them
Super And she came out with a line called the
Crayon Case.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
And she started out with one palette called let me
let me see it, let me let me, let me
stand up for men. Oh that is it I bought.
I bought all of her stuff only for inspiration. I
don't need use it. She came out with this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh look at that little box of crayons.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Yeah, and it made her.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
She became a millionaire, an indie brand millionaire. And then
she ended up on the Oprah Grim Freeze. Uh you
know how she has the Christmas list.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
She stays.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
She stays on that list.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
So watching her all of my years, she inspired me
because she stayed with a theme.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Everything she did. She stayed with.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
The crayon theme everything she did, and she didn't come
out with a whole lot of products.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
No, didn't come out with the Yeah, she didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
She stuck with what what made her work, and this
is what made her work. She she stayed on this
one palette for I know, about three years before she
came out with anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, it says I'm SUPA.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Was likely refers to Rayel Stewart, also known as supercent
or was up Super, the founder of the cosmetic company
The Crayon Case. She is an entrepreneur from New Orleans,
gus in a lot of a lot of roots to
New Orleans rightlessly, and who built her business from viral
social media videos into a successful, multi million dollar brand.

(01:11:22):
And you really love to hear these guys. I love
to hear these kind of stories because her product, she
put out the creativity of her product first, she didn't say.
She didn't go out there and say, hey, I'm the
first of this, I look like this. They fell in
love with the product for the product, and they said, oh,

(01:11:45):
and by the way, who's behind it? And when they
found out who was behind it, they were like, whoa
where did you come? Blown away? The Crayon Case. Stuart
launched her school supply themed makeup line in twenty seventeen,
which is eight years ago. Was designed to be user
friendly and long lasting, so consumers really enjoy. You sell

(01:12:09):
one thing that won't break forever, You've sold a million
things that won't break forever, because people like to suggest
stuff that does not break forever.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
The name of it and her theme everything was based
around school, which your school is doing, what teaching you,
teaching you how to wear the product. So when I
started watching her, she had prs all over the place.
Everybody she called them crayon qties, and everybody wanted to

(01:12:39):
be a Crayon qty, to be part of her, to
be part of her team. And I sat back, and
this is when I kind of first got in and
start watching it. And I was sitting at work and
it was doing Black Friday. So I'm watching her doing
Black Friday forty three minutes for I think it was

(01:13:01):
forty three minutes, it may have been less.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
She hit a million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
And Black Friday less than an hour. I put it
like that. She made her first million dollars. She came
back again during Christmas time and she hit that million.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
She hit that million again.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
So it was just basically staying with the same Everything
she did was on the same level. And so basically
just watching her that that was that was teaching me
to see somebody come from being a waitress and that's
what she used to do to now being a multi millionaire,

(01:13:41):
you know. And she had a heck of a team
and that really helped her a lot. She really had
a help marketing team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Crazy marketing team.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Yeah, a crazy, crazy marketing team that stood beside her.
And I'm really at that time, I'm really thinking that
she was already a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
She was. I ain't even made ten thousand dollars yet,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
But you gotta break even about five years in a
row before you start breaking through some ceilings right there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
That's the way she carried herself. You made she made it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Think she was that millionaire and I she hit it
when she hit that million But when she showed up
on Oprah's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Christmas list, yeah boom and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
In Oprah's over, I knew she made it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Oh yeah, Sparky's got something on the what's going on there,
spark Hey, Kim, we need plastic from makeup. That's where
the plastic comes from. From makeup Everybody. If we're wondering it,
it comes from Kim Kardashian's ass. The BBL be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Careful with those two because like one side of them
is falling.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
It's like, yeah, you put a Kim that is crazy
that miss smith Lee. Take us out on the outro here,
where can people find your makeup if they wanted to purchase?
And where can they find you? Because you are an
absolute delight?

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
Thank you. You can find me on makeupby Alia dot com.
You can definitely, I have a cold that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
You can use. The code is Alia. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Make up by Alia was named after my baby, my
baby girl. I have three girls and two boys, so
make up ay Alib was named after her. So you
can find it on of course, the www dot makeup
alia dot com. And you can definitely find me on
the TikTok shop. Now I'm hoping to, you know, break
into other places maybe shop Shop of Fire or something

(01:15:43):
like that later on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
But right now those two are booming, but mostly my TikTok.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
My TikTok has really taken taken off, and I'm really
really excited for that, all for one palette, all from
one palette.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
So I just followed. It was that easy. All I
had to do is is they got lead j R.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
E ed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
But makeup by Alia is right there. You have you
have Uh, oh my god, look at all these videos
on here. This is outstanding right now. Yeah, tons of videos,
tons of tutorials, I mean all around if Yeah, it's
binge worthy, definitely binge worthy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Yeah. So I enjoy it. I just enjoyed, you know,
doing it is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
And then the crazy thing about it, when I'm not
doing the makeup from you know, I don't wear it out.
I really, I really don't wear it like going out
a lot. Like some people like religiously, they got to
have that makeup on every time they go. But you know,
once once the cameras is down, and once I've done,
all I'm doing, you know, is besides work, and then
I'm always working on the next project. All of my

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time is spent.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Once you make this, you gotta keep going. You just
can't stop.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
You gotta you gotta keep building yourself and you Yeah,
and then the timing of and I'm a one band show.
I got to do all the packing. I got to
you know, I got to do all of that. I
got to make sure everything is out, so I really
don't have the help. It's just me, So my time
is very limited.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
How about the children are they are they involved in
some way or.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Well, my children are all grown and I have one
in Texas, I have one like in jones but two
in Jonesborough. And then I do have up my oldest daughter,
but she's married. She's a nurse, so she you know
that that's a lot of her time. I have my
son now after my husband passed away. It's just me
and my son here now. And he's more like he's

(01:17:41):
not sociable, but on his weekends he do come help me. Now,
he does have his own job. He's into logistics and
so and then this time of the year he works
for American Greetings Logistics. So it's very busy doing this
time this time of the years. So but yeah, they
help when when they.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Can, they do beautiful it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
Yeah, Well, Sparky, where where can you find us?

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
If you were looking for us? Park diddles? Uh, you know,
unmuting yourself on the old screen so you don't get
the verb reaching.

Speaker 8 (01:18:18):
You can find us on every single major streaming platform,
including iHeart, Spotify, Spreaker, Deezer cast Pocket cast O, Real Video,
Google YouTube, and Sue coming to the rocal panel.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Guys are coming to Roku, y'all everywhere we're doing it.
We're doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
That is awesome. That is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
And I thank y'all so much for the late interview.
I thank y'all just for having me on here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
You know, every every pleasure, it has been our pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Yeah, every interview counts, and I definitely appreciate you guys
so much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Well, thank you, Kevin. You something else.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
I say that every day, Miss Lee, I say that
every day. Well, thank you very much for watching.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Make sure you guys tune in every Monday night, ten
fifteen Eastern Standard time.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
We are the pod Guys Podcast. I am Tony Kaz
of course you ever love him Picasso guys, we'll catch
you next week. Have a great night.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Bye bye