The Podguyz Podcast With magician Rich Manley

The Master magician joins the podguys podcast to talk about his amazing peruvian journey throught the andes as we get into movies, wayfair and egyptian pickpockets and scams.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Here.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
And for those of YOUAUS viewing audience right there, Sparky
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(00:48):
he witnessed as vividly as possible on the on the
big board, Sparky's big board. So keep an eye on
that situation. Uh, Tony, Yes, we have we have a
guest this week.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
We do have an unbelievable guest this week. Uh. You
may or may not know him. He is a very
good looking individual, the mister mister rich Manly Uh, fresh
from his hit series of course, Culture Shock.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Hi, it's great to be on this show and I'm
looking forward to this.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Rich, you have never heard of us. That's okay, Okay,
you know what. We're gonna make it. We're gonna make
this so we're gonna make it so we are unbelievable,
and uh it's gonna be a fantastic time for yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm telling you. Just you just brought up Culture Shock,
and I'm gonna be honest. I've never seen the show. Okay,
I have touched. I checked out the outline online and
uh so, Rich, could you give me like a little
little bit of a reason like to watch because this
sounds wow, this is good. This is a little bit

(02:01):
to fill in. What what is Culture Shock? It's on Netflix?
Is it on Netflix?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's on TV two, b TV to b TV, Okay,
all right TV. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
So uh so, basically, uh, I was gonna talk about
Netflix thing now see.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Now now.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
He got yeah, I know, see you put in the
words in my mouth. Uh So, basically, Culture Shock is
this it's about all about connection in magic. So you know,
when I was growing up, my grandfather traveled.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
The world and uh.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
He was a surgeon, so he'd travel and he would
give a lot of seminars on you know, medicine. But
in the forties they taught Surgeon's sleight of hand to
be better with their finger decksterity. So he learned magic.
And when I was a kid, at like ten years old,
he showed me my first magic trick.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And I would also see.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
All the trinkets he'd bring home and put in his
office in his study.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
It was like this Indiana Jones Museum there now.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And like we like to interrupt you while you're talking
a little bit about the star. What was the first
magic trick?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
The first magic trick was a card vanished, So basically,
you know, I've got a card and I make it
vanish and then I make it reappear, and I sucked
at it. No, no, it was not beautiful.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It was not.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I was ten and.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So let's just say you progressed through your years.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, okay, small.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Wait didn't when you're ten years old? Did people tell
you you were bad at the joke or the bad
at the card the magic trick? Or now?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
They were very nice about it, you know, because it
was my thing. You know, Christmas would come around and
they'd be like, oh, here he goes again with the
card behind the hand trick. Here we go, you know,
and they're like, oh, yeah, we see it. But it's great.
It's great, you know. But they were nice, they were
nice about it.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
You're uh. The surgeon story reminds me of that old
Cartoon Network show where Henry Winkler played a doctor trying
to create more borders called Doctors with Borders.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, catchy show.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah yeah yeah, where he's like, we're gonna need more maps.
It's just a goofy, sketchy thing.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Do you not say that?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't think I see you.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Gotta you gotta look at it.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Believe me when I tell you you're not missing out on anything.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
You really are?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, no, no, I do not believe Tony on that
at all.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's horrible.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Henry Winkler goes full on.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Like, well, you know, full on funds.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Let's drawing more borders for for insurance companies. But continue, sir, continue.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
To say, so, all right, let's see how good I
am at picking up from where I left off.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
After Tony just I know, I know, we like the
veer left and you go right. I apologize it's all good.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
So going back to the car triok So, anyway, I
learned this cartric from my grandfather, and you know, I've
been fascinated by magic because of it and travel because
of his travels. So when he went to these different cultures,
these different places and met these cultures, he would do
magic for them, Like in the Amazon. You'd met tribes
in the Amazon, or in Tibet, even in Japan, and

(05:06):
he would go on these adventures.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Meet the people and he would do magic.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
It was a way to kind of connect and bridge
the cultures and kind of break the ice. And I
just thought it was an amazing thing that he did.
And so when he passed, he gave me his travel
journal with all the places that he visited, and that
was the inspiration for the show. Was like, Okay, I
got this journal. I've seen everywhere he's gone. So it
wouldn't it be cool to retrace the steps and see

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all these places and then see what he was looking for,
like perform magic for these same communities.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
As an homage, as an homage.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
And it's just been an eye opening experience because all
the places you go, it's like you can't write the story.
It kind of writes itself in a way, as you're
out there and you're meeting these people and doing magic
for them, and it's just, you know, it's a story
is connection and seeing how people connect.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm sorry, I watched your a couple episodes, but I
love the very first episode except for one thing.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Okay there, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Now, Now this is my own opinion. It's not the
opinion of the mass watchers that have watched the show.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm not a big fan of getting forward then reverse.
I feel like it could have been a bigger build
up to to magic, Magic Magic, But it was the
the trip and the experience and the you know, the
people and and I get all of that. The whole
situation beautiful, like absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I see what you're saying. I forgot that was in
there just I mean, but yes, I do. I do
know what you're talking about. I would have to agree
with you on that. I do. I do agree with
you on that, because it's good to just keep the
story flowing. But I don't want to give too much away.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
But that's all right, that's all right, I get it.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Go ahead, Kevin Place, Yeah, yeah, no, Tony took my question.
Damn it, all right, I'm messing with you, Richie. You've
obviously been at this for much longer than people probably
give you credit for. I'm sure you get that whole
like overnight success thing gets on your nerves once in
a while, Am I right about that?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Or now?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
No, you know, I normally, you know, I don't.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Really think too many.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That makes me sound like an idiot, but I don't
think too much in terms of that sort of stuff.
I just normally, you know, I go to the mountains
a lot, I go rock climbing, and this stuff that
just comes as part of what I'm doing is just
kind of like in the background, I guess.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Also, And has anyone on your now you show them
a magic trick? Have they ever shown you? But you
like try to top your trick?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, there was one guy in Egypt.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
It was always Egypt, no matter was the place.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And it was one guy who I was trying to buy.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
A lamp from in this bizarre and it was called
it's called Connell clearly and Cairo, and I was trying
to buy this lamp and he kept raising the price
and we were like, wait a minute, you said it
was this price, and then we turned our backs.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
We started talking, and now it's more expensive. I don't understand.
Did you add a diamond to it? I don't understand
what just happened.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
And he's like, uh, you know, but but I think
it's more like this price. And then it got more expensive,
and I was like, okay, how about this.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Since you like to negotiate, let's play a little game.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
I'm gonna do a card trick for you and then
you sell it to me for free if I can actually,
you know, mess you up, or if I could fool you.
And so this whole time, he's trying to screw me up,
Like he takes the cards. You know, I have him
pick a card, okay, pick a card, ticket sign it.
He screwed me up. He's trying to shuffle them. He's
doing all these things. He's laughing, his friends are there,

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and you know, I'm like, all right, this is a
challenge this guy.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
This guy.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And so he puts the car back in and all
of that, and then uh, we start shuffling up and
I say, what's the name of your card?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
And he's like, I'm not gonna tell you.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
And I'm like, no, just just tell me, what what's
the name of the card? And he's like, no, nope, nope,
give me the cards back. And he starts shuffling again,
and he starts like trying to look for it, and
I say, but wait a minute, is your card in there?
And then he looks for it and he's like, uh,
you And then so I say, check your pocket because
you've been a problem for me this whole time. Reaches

(09:29):
it and there's the his sign card was in his
pocket and he's like, I throws it at me and
he's like, gives me a high five and gave me
the free lamp. So, needless to say, from what I've heard,
that's the only free thing you'll ever get out of Cairo.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's pretty much it. Yep.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
They see the tourists come in there from either the
United States or UK or like somewhere, and uh, every
single time they're they're all about pickpocketing, like huge, huge
pickpockets in Egypt.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, when you were saying lamp, I was thinking magic
Genie lamp because you know, but I'm guessing it was
just like a regular house lamp. Correct.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oh no, uh, I've got it right here. I've got
shown tell.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I love yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
So this next it's going to be the climbing blocks
over your other shoulder.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Oh yeah, that that's my Yeah, I've got to set
that up. That's my climbing wall. So that's it right there.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, I wasn't there, you go, I wasn't that far off.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's pretty impressive too, yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I said I wasn't gonna pay like fifty US dollars
for this thing.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, of course not.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
You should have punched them in the face and stolen
it off them. You should be like, hey, Breck, you know,
I'm because.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
The card trick.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I was just going to go straight to that.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So like, well I messed up that car trip anyways, pulling.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
That's right, yeah, out guys.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, well the one movie I see on your IMDb
and I actually I liked it. I really liked the movie.
Obviously you didn't really you know, you weren't the main
feature in the movie Night and Day, Cameron Diaz, Tom Cruise.
So just speaking on behalf of Tom Cruise movies, Okay,
and maybe as a movie lover yourself and actor, you've

(11:20):
noticed the same thing that Tom Cruise movies are all
the ways watchable and they move the story along very quick,
sometimes at a fault to the storyline. Watching the movie
Top Gun and then the sequel, you know, the Top Gun,
I'm watching it. It's background noise, you know, because it's

(11:42):
a sequel to an old eighties movie or whatever. But
it still has the qualities where you're like, Okay, this
is well edited. We're moving from scene to scene, the
story's going along. Night and Day had that same effect
where it's not really a comedy based but they're kind

(12:04):
of leaning into it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yes, yes, And I like that. I like that about it.
You know. I did like the action element, but you know,
the comedy base. And for me, I always say this,
Tom Cruise is one of my favorite actors. I just
I love him as an actor, and I love the
fact that he does all this action stuff and he
really goes at it, you know, and wants to learn
it and he's hungry to gain more knowledge. And I

(12:31):
think that's he's passionate about filmmaking. And I think that's
really why I'm drawn to him, is that passion, you know,
and you can see it comes through and you know,
that movie for me was really exciting to be on
because he was.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
A part of it.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So I was like, there was a leaked a leaked
video of him.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I think he's frozen up there, Toning. Now it's little frozen,
little technical difficulty, rich manly is connect to the audio.
He's getting right back. Sparky's got something on the big
board in the meantime, Sparky, what do you got? Sparkandiddles, Uh,
he's also frozen. Yep, he has flipped it around. My

(13:12):
first card trick? Is that your card? No, that card
should have exploded.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's very much the gambit.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yes, yes, yes, is uh still reconnecting to his audio? Tony?
What were you going to say there?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I was gonna ask about his Uh. You know, he's
got many a different things in his life going on
right now. But you know he was in the Collector
Night and Day. Sleigh bells, bipolar laybells.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, bipolar. That's another one. Rich is reconnecting. What
I did want to touch on is a little bit
more about the difference when Tom Cruise is leading it
off compared to when he is when he has to
be a complimentary actor. And I'll give an example in

(14:09):
the movie The Color of Money. You remember the movie Sparky, Yes, Okay,
the scenes were moving along, Paul Paul Newman. Yeah, totally
my point. But they weren't moving too quickly. You were

(14:30):
able to settle in a little bit with the scene.
You were able to they they got these shots of
Paul Newman. I think the influence of Paul Newman in
this movie onto a young I mean, like Tom Cruise
must have been eighteen or nineteen years old. Yeah, I
think that that that influence transferred over where, you know,

(14:57):
like certain scenes were Cruz comes up to Paul Newman
end of the movie and he says, I let you
win sort of thing, and Newman's character we all felt
it like, oh my god. But just the camera is
staying there and him sitting in his own shit for
a little bit. And I think that's the only thing

(15:19):
that's kind of missing from these Mission Impossible movies, you know,
like A Night and Day. You know, they're very formulaic,
and now I think he was.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Doing There was one video of him in a he
was back scene and of course he was talking to
the crew and he was yelling at them like because
I guess it was during the pandemic, okay, and he
was like he said, you know what, you should be happy,
you should be happy that you even have a job.
And here I am trying to be professional and I'm

(15:52):
coming in here with every ounce of my ability one
hundred percent and you guys are giving only half to
maybe even a quarter of what he's doing. And you know,
he really dug into people, like really dug into the crew.
But it's one hundred percent true. You know, they should
have been there one hundred percent for the movie and

(16:15):
not even necessarily that they have a dramatic part in
the movie. You know, if you're if you're a back
back vaccine guy. Uh, you know, you're the wardrobe person,
you're the the coffee getter, whatever you need to do,
like you were there for a specific job.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
That was also during the the COVID time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Where people were getting laid off, they weren't getting many jobs,
you know, and there there wasn't a lot of people
on scene. It was it was a very very dry
time where people couldn't even be unseen, let alone in
the same building at the same time. With that many
people you.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Have, they had to work under restrictions, and you know,
that's that's a lot of what was going on during
not just you know, to create a movie and all that.
But uh, Rich, Rich is back. I think we got
he's bag now, right.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Honestly, this was the weirdest thing that just were talking
about ghosts or something.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
We're talking about ghosts.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, my computer is fully charged and it all
of a sudden just turned off. I'm not gonna plug
Apple on this one. Did someone is someone coming through
the computer there?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's what it is. That's what it is. We've we've
interviewed many a ghost teller. Yeah, we have.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You know, yeah, hey, Rich's back. Well, Rich, I don't
know if you were I don't know if you were
staying tone there during the whole you know, reboot session.
But I was getting onto a little bit of Tom Cruise,
the one movie where they kind of let scenes sit
a little bit, if you understand what I mean, where
an actor gets the bad news in a movie and

(17:59):
you get the you get the image, you get the
camera on them at that exact moment, and edited well
and enough where you have a good eight to twelve
hard count seconds in there where you get to watch
the scene unfold, you get to watch the emotions unfold.
Have you ever seen the movie the color of money,
Paul Newman, Tom Cruise, pool players, pool hustlers. Yes, okay,

(18:20):
so end of the movie, right, we're seeing Paul Newman.
He's going at it. He's back at his game. He
gets into the championship game with Tom Cruise's character and bam,
he thinks that he's won, but Cruise threw it. He
threw the match and he lets him know it too.
That scene where we get to experience Paul Newman realizing

(18:42):
you didn't win shit, you won nothing, and they set
the camera up, they set they made him kind of
sit in his own shit scenario where you're now getting
the whole reaction. You're feeling sorry for this guy, even
though he's a terrible hustler, and he's now shown Cruise
how to hun Cruise got so good that he hustled

(19:02):
the hustler and they both made money. Thinking, hey, this
is supposed to be good. But it was such a
chip to the ego, and you know, you're getting all
those emotions not even realizing as now the audience. Now
you're realizing that this isn't a real thing. This is
just a movie. But they're portraying their characters with such
hardcore accuracy in that scene. Yes, that you feel the

(19:26):
realism and to be a part of that scene. Paul
Newman one of my favorite actors of all time. Oh,
you could put him in just you could put him
with a limp hanging out with Bruce Willison.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
What was that.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I forget even the name of the movie, but just
like just put it on for background noise sake. Yes,
because every scene Paul Newman's able to steal a little
bit from that part is where I think Tom Cruise
is like, wow, you know, maybe that's how you should
let a scene kind of sit for a little bit.
Because he did have those dramatic moments in the movie
Vanilla Sky, which not a lot of people a fan

(20:00):
of I liked it. I was very you know, uh,
totally serviceable. They had very few jumped the shark moments.
Jason Lee didn't need to be there my opinion, but
you know, he was the play the buddy guy.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Hey yea man, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
It replaceable not not like not like a Robert de
Niro in the movie The Joker, like why why are
you here? Robert de Niro?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Another good one is Magnolia.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I loved him in Magnolia.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Absolutely yeah, yeah, great, that was.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
And then there's the Jamie Fox one.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I forget what that one was called, uh where He's
Got the White Hair He's a hit man.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh god, you know, really good movie.
But you're right, the name is escapable in a big,
big way. Was that it was He's a Jamie Jimmy
Fox was his taxi driver or something?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
And then you know, god, damn, what was the name
of it, Sparky, write it down on the big board
if you could, if you could think of it. But no,
the countless amount of movies that Tom Cruise's hat, I
mean between himself, say, like an al Pacino. Al Pacino's
had these amazing roles as well. I don't know if
you're a Pacino guy or I love him in the.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Robin Williams one where he's you can't sleep Insomnia.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I liked him in that Who's that Uhino?

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Batino and Robin Williams where Robin Williams plays the the killer,
like the serial killer's hunting him down in Alaska, but
he's suffering from insomnia, so he's like looking for Robin Williams,
but he also can't sleep because.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
There was there was a movie with with Robin Williams
did play with both of these guys. He was with
Robert de Niro in the movie Awakenings where he played
where he played serious Patch Adams. No, I'm joking.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
The name of that movie is called, by the way, Collateral.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Collateral. Yeah yeah, now, Disney actually when they bought Patch
Adams life story right now, I've got to meet him
in reality. Really cool guy, uh, the actual doctor. But
when Disney bought the rights for Patch Adams, they were like, oh,
we got it. They're like, did you read it? No,
we're getting there though. We bought it, so they have

(22:16):
the rights to Patch Adams. Patch Adams was a he
was actually he was actually gay, like the woman portrayed
in the movie that was supposed to be Yeah yeah,
that was supposed to be his boyfriend. So Disney's like, oh,
maybe i'd have that. It's a girl now. So they
edited that whole big part of his life right there.

(22:40):
Yeah yeah yeah, so and it was so that way
it would be family friendly and all that nice stuff.
So the real Patch, you know, like dude got paid
or whatever, right, he got he got his cash out
of the whole idea. But It's kind of disappointing when
you're like, when you get your life to be portrayed
and they're like, eh, sorry about your whatever is going on,

(23:02):
but we're trying to make some money. You know. We
don't want to have to have parents explain to kids.
We want, you know, laughter to be the best medicine.
Robin Williams isn't going to do any scenes with another
guy like that, even though, but pared Cage perfect perfect man. Yeah,
he did the bird Cage with him and Nathan Lane,

(23:23):
but that was not a Disney production. That was I
think that was Mirror Max at the time before they
went bankrupt. And it's always like a temporary I feel
like these production companies, not as much anymore, are like
temporary holding companies until they eventually fall into too much debt.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Flubber was a Disney production, correct.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Oh Ber, Flubber, Back to Flubber.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Going to Flubber, going to the Land of Flower. Do
you have a Robin Williams role that you just can't
live without where you're like, no one could have done
the no one could have done the job, but Robin Williams, you.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Know, I do, yeah, out to be missus downside.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It is missus downfire. And by the way, there is
such a creepy thing to do besides actually I don't know,
getting a lawyer, getting a lawyer, Get a lawyer. You
have child support, okay, you have visitation with your kids
or whatever. Dude dressing up with prosthetics to make yourself

(24:22):
look like a woman, to spend more. Here's an idea.
Don't lose your job. Don't be a jerk to your wife.
She upgraded you are the problem. She upgraded to a
Pierce Brosnan double O seven. She's fucking James Bond right now,
you know. And you you get to hang out in
your loser apartment while trying to what are you doing?

(24:45):
What leg he had to stand on where he didn't
want to do a voice for a cartoon berg smoking
a cigarette? Who cares? You have a job to provide
for your family, Sally Field fell in love with your ass. Jack.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I feel like you should have been the lawyer on
the other side.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
On the other side the dude had been, he would
have been in prison. I'd really this man trespassed cross
dressed into his house. The youngest one's got to be
traumatized as hell forever.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know, just imagine rich you find out if you're
a little kid finding out that Santa Claus might not
be the realest thing ever. But let alone, your dad's
face is melting in front of you.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Holy shit, you know, and and she's going to the
bathroom and you just see that happen. You're like, what,
wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, And his brother helped facilitate the idea. No one
told him a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
In the way attempted manslaughter.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, with the poisoning what the poisoning By the way,
rated PG, but it's like a nineties PG, so it's
really PG thirteen to on the line of R yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Way he Actually, I would say, if it's NINETIESG it's
rated are now that's.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh yeah, easily absolutely, But you're one thousand percent right.
No one else could have pulled off that role. I
have an unpopular opinion because the actor I'm about to
mention is one of the most popular and beloved figures around.
It is unpopular. You might agree, though, every movie that

(26:25):
ever starred Bill Murray. Bill Murray is good in but
very replaceable with maybe dan Ackroyd. If you replace groundhog Day,
great movie, but if Bill Murray did not exist and
say it was Chevy Chase, Say it was Dan Ackroyd.

(26:46):
You replace them, you're still getting a good movie.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
That's true, you know, thinking about it, I don't think
you could replace Chevy Chase in the Vacation.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Movies placed National Lampoon.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, yeah, possibly because the next version we saw of
that type of character was like a Tim Allen from
from a Home Improvement.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
That's true, you know, kind of a Oh what was he?
He was a writer that one.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I remember remember he was a writer in the woods
and he was so pissed off because his wife was
writing a book about the squirrel that was better than
his book.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh that was Billy Crystal Throw Mama from the Train.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
No, not that, not the Danny DeVito one.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
It was Funny Farm.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
This is another one that the bunny Farmer escapes me.
Funny Farm.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yes, Bunny Farm. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I feel like I liked him in Funny Farm.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So rich, how long have you been in the acting
game for because I've I've done movies before since the
age of sixteen, and then here and there, I've been
doing stand up comedy for fifteen years, podcasting with Tony
and then we had the Big Daddy's Roadshow before Time,
and a whole bunch of slew of stuff. So I
count myself as a busney man. But for yourself to
be on the on the spot where you're at right now,

(28:03):
you have to be doing this from since, like forever,
how long you've been doing this.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I started, you know, in Massachusetts, So I started in Boston.
I got into the whole entertainment thing really through modeling
when I was eighteen. And then that modeling agent got
me booked in gigs and commercials and acting commercials starting
like eighteen years old.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
And but I did here's the thing, this is going
back to.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
I guess uh and and I don't think this was
what we talked briefly before the podcast about being the
homeless guy.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
But you can't be the homeless guy.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
You can't. You just can't do it. Your teeth they're
way too perfect.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Listen. People will say that, you know, like that you'd
be the homeless guy that they say, Oh, he's just
doing this as a job baker. You know, he's faking it.
He's gonna hand that social clout.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
But that was that was it.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Like people were telling me to go do the modeling thing,
and I was very kind of you know, I was
doing martial arts. I was big into martial arts. I
loved Bruce Lee and Jet Lee, and I loved action movies.
And I really didn't want to be like I coming
from Massachusetts, I just you know, we're it's like very
hardened over there, you know, And for me to go do.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
That, I was like, I don't really want to do that.
It's just not me.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
But everyone's like, but the money's good, and so I
was like, Okay, I'll do it. I'll do it for that.
And so you know, I started doing it for that,
and then you know, it just built into more things.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
And so here's the thing with my agent.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
He always wanted me to be clean cutting everything. So
I started, you know, around like twenty one, growing up
my facial hair and he's like, no, no, homeless look, no, no, no,
they will not hire you.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
No.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I was like, fine, fine.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Now then only homeless movies exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
So it was always yeah, and so that's like going
back to, you know, the whole acting thing and how
I'm doing kind of why. I was always like there
were these roles that I was casting all the time,
and you know, it was always the clean cut, clean shaven,
all American guy.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
And and to me, it was just not enough of
a challenge, Like I wanted to play almost man. I
mean I really wanted to challenge.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
And so it was like, okay, so you read the lines.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
It's the typical you know, you know, like the Hallmark
type of where it's just you are.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I was just gonna say, you are Hallmark homeless. You
are always homeless. Yes, it took my life, so that's
the thing. And beggar with a clean coat, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
And it bothered me, you know, I did. I was like,
you know, I really all these other guys are having
so much fun, like you know, getting dirty and getting
to like really get into character, and like, you know,
there's a guy over here eating trash because he's really
into it, and like why can't I be that guy?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
You know, because it's it's it's tough because you have
a certain look and people are uh, it's a it's
a it's an easy thing to say because it's it's
the real thing. Okay. People judge by looks, especially when
it comes to casting. Okay, Yes, so I don't want
to be the heartbreaker to this new generation coming up
just the way that it is for a majority of

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for a majority of roles. If you look like somebody
that they think that you they want for the part
somebody else wrote, if somebody's directing, somebody's doing the casting,
You're just there in the mix. Go to your next
audition and move on. Continue and continue and continue. The
I like the I like the attitude is always is
always refreshing.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
One thing though, jet Lee, you like jet Lee one
hundred jet Le's versus one Gorilla who wins?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Ah, You would be.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Absolutely absolutely because you know what, you could trick on
gorilla with a banana. You could say, here's a banana
and then you know, then he's on the ground.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Ever happens. See, this is my big thing. Like and
I feel like the era.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Maybe it's because that was my old years of like
the nineties, but I think the best movies were made
then that if I had to say.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's my opinion.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
But I loved all the Jetly movies back then, with
like a Lea and all the like he was in
a movie with DMX and then Watkins, you know, remember Unleashed.
I think that.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I think that I think that d m X does
not get enough credit for his first directory, his first
movie out there, Belly, that was outstanding. I really I
think that it was. It had that indie look to it. Yeah,
but they weren't trying to make it look that way,
like a Tarantino would try to make it look indie.
And then you're like, that's that's a familiar Is that

(32:40):
Michael Mason. They're like, yeah, yeah, is that Steve Buscemi. Yeah,
but it's an indie movie. You're like, man, I know.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
You're I know you're doing expendables. He was the one,
the second one and the third one.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I don't know who the hell is buying that. Jetlye
would get his ass kicked by mel Gibson and litha
weapon for a much older mel Gibson.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Four.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Who's dude, that's not happening. You know, I have Danny
Glover to be like, oh now I'm gonna come and
also fight you. And it's such an obvious cut scene
whether you're if you're a fan of editing at all,
and you know those who are get a little crazy.
We were like, Okay, there's Danny Glover, there's this stunt
double Glover stunt stunt double.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, did you ever do stuntwork yourself for I did.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
So I came out to Los Angeles really because I
loved Bruce Lee, Jentley, Jackie Chance so much that I
wanted to do, you know, like stunt. I wanted to
be a leading man action hero. So that's why I came.
Because I had all the stunt work. I had all
the fight choreography, like fight training, stunt training, falling out
of windows, all that stuff, and driving.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
So I came out for.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
That, you know. And it was one of those things
where when I did come out and was working with
the community, I started I was like, yeah, but you know,
I really want to get more into and it's like
you just said, they cast you based on, you know,
the look and everything else. So to me, I was
constantly getting frustrated because I'm one of these people that

(34:12):
really likes to take my destiny in my own hands.
And it's really like a hurry up and wait, like,
you know, you can only do so much, and you
keep going to the auditions and you.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Keep trying to get that part.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
The part I get I did. I actually had a
theory on Stephen Hawking that he was actually never smart.
It was just some really good looking person that nobody
believed was smart too, and that he just worked Stephen
Hawking like a puppet, you know where He's just like, fine,
I'll find somebody that island. You're giving me ideas now,

(34:43):
telling you man, telling you so, I'm I'm guessing you
were a big fan of the movie Once upon a
Time in Hollywood, then correct? Yes, yeah, yeah, very very
good movie. The accurate portrayal of Charlie Manson not being
a psychopath if you actually, you know, look up his
songs on YouTube where we're always told, oh these are

(35:05):
these are terrible. These are terrible songs, not bad, easy
to listen to, kind of mellow folksy of course for
the for the late sixties, so not not bad, but
the the have. Are you familiar with the Charlie Manson
story at all or now?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, was in Michigan, his probation officer moves to California,
then becomes the DA and by the way, he takes
his favorite client over a part of the mk Ultra trials.
Charlie Manson Ted Kaczinski. Basically, any psychopath that made any
any headline news in the past forty to fifty years
has been a part of some kind of weird CIA experiment.

(35:46):
But I digress a little bit because I'm not going
to try to maneuver down that rabbit hole. Brad Pitt's
acting in the movie. I mean, he is astonishing when
it comes to anything. He's got this. I guess he
has a disability where he can't recognize people by fame.
He says, man, that what a superpower that is where
you're just like, ah, you know, I got a disability
card and says I don't need to know who you
are here.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
You go. Don't be offended when I say this by
any means. But you have the the chin of Henry
Cavell and the of somebody like Orlando Bloom, Like, you know,
very very rugged. You work out all the time.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
He's a blooming cavel. He's a blooming, blooming cavel.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
I only do that when I'm on camera.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
The thing is when I don't.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
And this is what my like, actually, my producer was
saying the other day, he's like, can you stop look,
just stop looking homeless. Like he's like, I know, you
get cleaned up when we need to film, but like
he's like, when you're you know, just out and about
you because I wear a hat. I just wear a
hat and I don't shave for a while, and then
it's like, okay, jump on camera and then you be

(36:51):
the guy.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
But he's always like, just for the love of God,
just stop stop trying to look. You can't.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know, it's Oki. What do you got on the
big board out there?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Buddy, he's flipping the board around. We got something here,
the homeless magician. Behold the cardboard bot of transportation, will
bring anybody here help me? Wayfair, Okay, there's the Wayfair
conspiracy theory. So rich. We did a whole episode on
a fake By the way, we knew that it wasn't

(37:25):
a real thing. Okay, yeah, Wayfair had a conspiracy theory
out there that people were trafficking children inside of that
people were trafficking children through uh, you know, cabinets or whatever.
So you would purchase a cabinet, but you would really
get a traffic child from a third world country or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Now, the cabinets were hundreds of thousands of dollars, They
were a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
They were a suspicious amount of money.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Did so, did you get one of these in the mail?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
No?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
This was the story that there was a there was
a conspiracy theory going around. We knew it was debunked,
but I said to Tony said, let's just talk about
it like it's fucking breaking news for an hour, you know,
And we did because we had a we had a
guest don that we did not really care for, you know,
and I'm just like, you know, what do you think
about that wayfair thing? Guys like I know, I've never
heard of such a thing. I'm like, yeah, but isn't

(38:15):
it a terrible thing? And he wouldn't say, like no,
like that's not a terrible thing.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's just like I don't even know a rabbit for
like one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. You could buy
Jessica for a hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Kelly. There was like, there's like a Kelly cabinet for
like four hundred grand. I was like, who's paying that
kind of stuff for the you know, for a cabinet,
even though they do have high end furniture that is
out there and people will pay that kind of money,
but it always feels like money laundering when something is
like I'll tell you this that before four million dollars agreed.

(38:48):
It's now aren't You're like, dude, what's going on here? Yeah?
The hell's going on here?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Well yeah, but we know, we talked about it because
it felt felt like a funny thing to do, and
the comments ended up lighting up, you know, calling us
idiots for talking about it. That's been debunked. La la la,
you know wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So people were crazy.
People were biting into the trolling. You know, they were

(39:16):
just like, ah, how dare these idiots hold on? You know? Yeah,
it's and if you always look up these same people's
profile pictures underneath there about it's either divorced or separated.
So they got some time on their hands if you
catch them adrift.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, I know. I try to avoid some of the
troll comments that I get for some of the things,
and you know, it's funny, but.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I actually kind of find them.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Some of them are kind of creative and yeah, and
sometimes I'm tempting and I'm like, no, no, I can't.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
You just got to step back.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
You just step back and you watch because you're like, wait,
but I got.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
A good one. No, once you open it up, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Stop, you know, correct correct. Yeah, it's and uh yeah, no,
it's it's it's tough. I've gotten you know, I've I've
taken some some comments before, not off this, but not
taking some comments where I'm treating it like like a
crowd work to a degree like you're insulting me. Oh great,
I'll insult you to ha ha. You know, to the point.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Where we're not here to troll people.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Never said we were here to troll people.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Never know what we are here for.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Go on, what are we here for?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Rich crap?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
I'm back.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, wow, it's another.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
It happened, guys, got to watch it exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I do want to know about a few things watching
I said, this computer may turn off again, so that
the dang ghosts.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I want to know about your kayaking adventures. Of course,
I know you. You bet you're a big world traveler.
Where that's the craziest per place that you have traveled to?
Kayak rocksim, you know, outdoor adventure sports, where somewhere that
you would say, man, that was the coolest place, and
not necessarily even Peru, but if you have to say Perue,

(41:25):
that's okay too.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
I was about to say Peru, and then you then
you screwed that up. So now I gotta think, Okay, just.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Really best of them, say Darfur, you know, I'd be
like I was there, you know, No.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I would say, actually Alaska.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
See I didn't say Prue, but Alaska had some great
I mean, it was just amazing. When I first went
to Alaska, I always wanted to go, and so I
went and I did some kayaking. And I love doing
whitewater kayaking just I love the adrenaline rush of that.
But I did more kayaking through glaciers, like there's this
glacier at Bear Glacier and you can like kayak through

(42:01):
the icebergs, and so it was more sea kayaking, but
that to me was just I mean, the scenery was stunning.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
So for kayaks, lots lots of whales and.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah I didn't I didn't really see any whales there,
but but I saw a lot of ice. There was
a lot of icebergs, a lot of ice.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Very cold.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
They were very cold.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
But you know, that was the moment where I started
thinking to myself, you know, I could actually see myself
living here. I just I don't know if I could
live through the winter. I love winter sports. I love
the cold, but I really enjoyed the long days when
I went there. I mean the days were like you'd
wake up the sun was up, and then the sun
would stay up and the soul stye till like midnight
or like one in the morning, and it was like

(42:44):
I can just adventure all day long, which was great
for me. But then in the winter the days are
really short and all that.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
So I think i'd.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Have to say Alaska and I did scuba dive in
a glacier. The matt Muska Glacier has these glacier pools
that are just this really deep blue and see through,
and I went under the underneath there with my dive
team and we went into this tunnel and it was
just this magical experience and you could feel the water

(43:14):
moving through the strong current.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
When I surfaced, the guy told me, I didn't want to.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Tell you, you know, when we were under there, but
this is like a fact that if the glaciers happened
to move for any chance, there was a slim chance
we would have all got sucked deep into the into
the ice and died.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
And I was like, that's probably a disclaimer.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
You wanted to tell me before we went down there.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
But that would have been great news, you know, like
we're gonna get captured in the undertow, You're gonna get
sucked into a curvase.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
It's like good, good to know after who was.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
He waiting to die? You know where he's like? You know,
now we should probably start telling them.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Yes, now that we've taken him down to experience everything,
we're just tell him what.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Have happened the uh Winter sports? Would you consider curling
a sport or it's a thing that looks like mopping?
I don't. I don't count it as a sport.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It mopping.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
You know, it looks like it right there are.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Happened?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
You know what it looks like. It looks like winter
rized botchi ball. That's what it feels like. It feels like,
hey guys, we will always still want to play botchi ball,
but we can't do it in the snow. It's like,
can we do it on the ice? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
You know. I will say this.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
I never knew that curling existed until I played this
video game that there was like an Olympic thing where
you could play an Olympic you could play it everyone
in the Olympics, And I played that, and I was like,
what the hell is this?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Which everybody was. Everybody was a better person before they
knew curling existed as a sport, where it was like
looking at it, like what are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Anything changed for me after that.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
My whole like perspective on life.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
So we can move on from that.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
You know what I would like to see though, is
that Olympic winter sport swimming, polar ice swimming.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Before you know what I was also thinking and I
wish they would do this is ice climbing, because you know,
I'm a big climber.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Cool, yeah, you know, and I myself acually crazy, and
I would.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Think that that would be great to showcase that.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
You know, No, that's that's a that's an that's a
really good idea. You see, everybody just because he's good
looking does not mean he doesn't have good ideas. You
see that you can, you can sometimes you can sometimes
have it all, don't ever, it's the problem with the
world right now. Rich Jealousy is at an all time high.
Trust On a really good day, I'm a five out

(45:52):
of ten. All the twos and threes look at me
like you probably think you're so much better than us.
You know, I had a little voice to them because
of that.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Now I see where the trolling comes into play.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Sparky's got something on the big board there, Sparky, what's
going on?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Get ahead, let's go.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
How come I can't see this? It's like I can't
see any of the Sparky's Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Up to the very top of the screen. Right up here,
there's a there's a box that says view on it
and if you hit the if you hit the view button,
it'll pop all four of us into the screen.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Boom, there we go.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
You got it. That is the most vivid picture you'll
ever see of the iconic Titanic right there. I know
it is for our non viewing audience.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Right there.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Sparky is one of the most dramatic artists around. We
all know what's going on on the picture, and that's
the that's the point with all art. You should know
what's going on with the picture. If it's a banana
duct tape to a wall, I'm sorry, it's not gonna
last that long. Yeah, yeah, doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I'm all.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I'm all for abstract art until you're you know, pulling
Jackson Pollock games and just crapping on a canvas and
running your ass around it, and you're like, dude, that's
that's not that's you know, everything counts as art to
a degree, except some people are a little angry over
AI art. You know, are you are you familiar with
this robot art stuff or no?

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, I don't really.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Because I'm big into like, when I travel, I take
my camera and I take photos of you know, the
people I meet in different you know, landscapes, and I'm
just really big, you know, on the art of it all,
and the AI thing. I think it's cool to a degree,
Like if you're if you want to touch up a
photo for some reason, Like for instance, if you've got

(48:00):
a photo and you took this beautiful photo and there's
always that one guy that steps in front of the
camera and you're like, why did you ruin the shot?
You know that guy?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
You know, And that happened a lot when I was traveling.
There's always these people that will.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Always find a way like you're just you said, five
minutes setting up the shot and you're like, okay, here
it is, you know, and it's like of an elephant
that's in this perfect post, and then all of a sudden,
there's just some random guy that steps out of the
bush and you're like, God, you know, if.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Only I had that ai to ruin it. Yeah, we
have it.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, that'd be really tough.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I got drawing pictures in the back of an elephant
picture tough.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Have you got that picture? And you're like, you know what,
I'm keeping the guy in there. Then the CIA is like,
we've been looking for this terrorist for so long. Where'd
you find him? You know, just down they're doing some
magic tricks.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I mean, you know exactly Rich, we have to ask
you what if net You know, I.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Seem to have found this guy. And he was whittling
these cabinets. I don't know. I think he was selling.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Them all for Wayfair.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, he kept putting children inside of them. I was like, hey,
now get out of my picture. You know what do
you get out of there?

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Do that over there?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
You get a shot of the pyramids here and this
guy's over there doing whatever the fuck.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, they're only Russian names. It's like Katrina and then Catalina.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
And yeah, geez.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
But that was going on wayfair. We all know.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, Wayfair, you're not full of anybody.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I have to laugh about your time and at the
Magic Castle.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yes, well what happened?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
What happened in your time in the Magic Castle?

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Well, magic Castle times.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
So I you know, I used to perform there, I
used to be a member there, and uh, you know
I had a great time, you know, going there. But
in after a while, I've just done it, gone to
the castle so many times and it's a great spot.
But I kind of was like, Okay, I've been here
a number of times and people ask me all the time, Hey,
I want to go to the Magic Castle, and you know,
I can obviously get people in, but I haven't been

(50:10):
in uh like like at least three years. I haven't
haven't performed or been there.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
So your your magic card has been revoked out.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Huh So you saw through that, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
No? No, you know what. They get to a point
where when you're doing shows and you're constantly at it,
and you're you're like, oh man, same show, same show,
boom boom boom. And then it's it's the same repeat customers,
the same repeat people. And then you're you're trying to
learn new tricks and people are illusionists and you know,
sleight of pan artists and they're like, yeah, oh well
I came out with the new trick. Here, you know,

(50:47):
here's how this goes.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I think.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
It's one of those things where, you know, I love
being at the Magic Castle, but there is a lot
of that. I mean, I think it's within whatever field
you're in, there's always going to be those other magicians
that are like, what's he doing, you know, and they're
all like trying to like one up each other, and
I just don't. I just don't like that stuff. I mean,
I'm just very like the whole point of my show,

(51:10):
my TV show is about connection and talking to people
and learning from people. So I never really was somebody
that's like, oh, I gotta be better than this guy.
You know, this guy you know or that guy. And
I think, you know, there's some of that there, and
it's it just kind of.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I mean, you're obviously talking about southern California, you know,
in in California, you know, the LA region. Yeah, that's huge.
Like people people do specific tricks. I forget the uh
the Asian gentleman who does.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Shouldn't limb, should lin should live?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
He is an man does some crazy stuff, crazy crazy stuff. Now,
of course he never tells anybody what he's doing. He
always comes with something kind of fresh, a new twist
on an old favorite. But that's not to say that's
the mentality that you have to have. You have to

(52:05):
have a new spin on an old twist of something
that's kind of you know, getting itself back into the
the whole mainstream magic, you know, yes kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yes, well this is like, now, was culture shock your
your idea authentically?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Yes, yeah, that's it did start in Egypt.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Actually it happened when I went to Egypt, and I
it was my first time ever traveling outside of the
US years ago, so the concept that had been in
like in development for many years, like just I always
wanted to do this after I experienced this. But I
went to Egypt to Connell Khalely, that famous bizarre and Cairo,
and there was this old man who was selling these
scare of beetles. And if you've seen The Mummy with

(52:49):
Brendan Fraser, the original one where the scarb girls up
the guy's arms, those little trinkets, but there's there are
forms of protection in ancient Egypt, and I wanted to
take one home. So I went here and and I
was like you know what I was with my buddy James.
I said, why don't you film this because I want
to see I want to do a little magic trick
for this guy. And I take the scare beetle and
I make it disappear and it appears on his shoulder

(53:10):
and uh, his eyes lit up. And soon enough, like
there was other vendors that were coming up to this
and they want to see more magic. And I was
getting like pulled at and people want to see more
mad I was like, oh my god. So I kept
showing them magic because I didn't want to die. But
also everyone was like, let's see more, Let's see more,
and they were like pushing each other out of the way.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
There had to be at least fifty.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
People circled around me, and you know, eventually one guy
pulled me out of the crowd, brought me into his
house and he showed me the scare beetle and it.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Was like that just sounds like you were a kidnapped.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Told on No.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
So some guy.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
He was whittling, he was whittling cabinets.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
This is what happened, man. You you magic so hard
you appeared in somebody's house.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Ah, God, I'm god, I got out of that crowded
you no luck, jumped out of a cabinet with somebody.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
So anyway, moving on, great times, Great times.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Me and the guy. Uh so anyway, we h we
got there and he pulls out this like scared beetle
but he was in this like little cloth piece and
I'm like, okay, so what is this? And it was
an actual authentic piece from the Old Kingdom or I
think it was the Middle Kingdom of ancient Egypt. And
he said that a lot of Egyptians actually would find
them underneath their house, you know, because when they were

(54:36):
they were building the foundation and everything, a lot of
these artifacts would show up. So it was like the
real thing, and I was just really excited to see it.
But what I learned then was that magic had such
a way to connect people. At first they were trying
to sell me stuff, and then they welcomed me into
their homes. And that guy even said to me, are
you sure you're not an Egyptian? You know, because you
have magic powers and they consider there are people to

(54:59):
be very magical and they believe in a lot of
that stuff. And it was such an eye opening experience
that I was like, Okay, I've got my grandfather's journal,
and I see the connection that this magic is happening
or how magic is connecting people, and this would be
a great show just to focus on that connection rather
than this fantastical magic trick. Let's use the trick to

(55:23):
kind of focus on how it makes people feel. And
that's kind of how the show came about.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
The uh no, And it's a really it's uh It's
a smart thing to pick up on immediately and then
use that as a concept for a show and open concept,
especially because it's kind of it's gotta look kind of scripted. Okay,
it has to look that way, but I you can't
script certain things, Okay. Yeah, So what I would suggest

(55:51):
to people, and for people that are gonna call it scripted,
just maybe maybe you're just so good with people one
on one and in groups crowds that they have to
give you that credit. Yes, and you know, if you're
able to win them over with the magic trick here
and there, you know, especially from that personalized story there

(56:12):
where you know, you literally had to magic your way
out out of a situation to kidnapping. Yeah, by the kidnapping,
who was the who was the producer that you out
of his handcuffs? Did you did? You're like, so, there
I was inside of the inside of a.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Fucking uh a wayfair cabinet chest, a chest, and I
saw this bucket of floation being lowered down a hole.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Your egg sackles, arm chains, straight jacket exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Well, so you took that over to your agency and
you said, listen, I got a great idea for you know,
for a show. And then they took it over to
uh A. Did you have to go up with competing
shows to see who got the slot?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Because this had been we man, we had been through
so many different I mean, we went to AFM with it.
We had sales agents, we had producers, we had agents,
you know, and it was it had been circulating for
a while. We even were all the way uh chatting
with Disney and Disney Plus and that geo.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
And the problem we had.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Was it wasn't so much competition with other shows, but
we were pitching this during when COVID happened. So COVID happened,
and a travel show where you had to literally get
out and go to places wasn't something people wanted to
really explore. Obviously at the moment, so.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It was stuck in their house everyone.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah, So it was a difficult sell at that time,
so we had to shelve it for a bit until
the market changed, and then you know, we we did
get some some other offers from other some other TV
programs and some other networks and stations, but we settled.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
With on TB and and you know the rest is
basically no.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
But rich listen man, everyone. Now, nothing stays a secret
for too too long. So if you shelve something like that,
your work is going to pile up in the meantime,
no problem, because people are going to be trying to
you know, not just when the show is successful. Now
you've had one season so far, but when the show
is going to continue as success. You could I could

(58:24):
see this going six, seven, eight seasons, no problem, right,
just a concept alone. But in the meantime, other other movies,
TV shows, whatever they can get you in, they can
then cocktail on that success alone. Yeah, no problem. So
you had to be a busy man from twenty twenty
until twenty twenty four, guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, I mean it was constantly I mean, it was
it was crazy. It was constantly doing stuff and still traveling.
We even started still filming some some bits and pieces
for even a second season because we knew we wanted
to do that, And now we are shooting an official
second season.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Which is nice, nice, cool.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Yeah, but it was busy. Yeah, it was busy.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Sparky's got something on the big board there though, So Rich,
you think your travels have been something. Sparky has traveled
around the world several several times, and he draws through
his fashion. By the way, he is the man behind
the bush. Oh my god, favorite trick that did not
work the first time, And now I turned a trick

(59:32):
into a Gallagher show. Where are the melons? Oh my god,
if you could see that picture right there, Rich, you
there's some.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
There's horrifying there.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Put that on a T shirt. Sparky Peca's holy lord,
oh my god, cried.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
A little bit. That's really funny, Sparky, really funny.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Where are the melons?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Where are the melons?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Rich? Is there a particulular trick that you wanted to
try but were advised not to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, And it wasn't not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Just in that the Gallagher smash a person onto.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
It was it wasn't like a David Blaine, that's not
really a trick where he's like, I will not eat
food for seven years, Like, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Not I'm going to throw gold fish four years later, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Like, that's not a trick, dude, that's us witnessing you
you dying. You know, I'm going to hang myself from
a rope for seven thousand years. Again, not a trick.
We're gonna, We're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
It is a trick if after seven thousand years is
still alive, that's true, that's true, But.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
It's not if you're just like, Okay, guys, he's turning green.
Is that a part of it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I think he's dead. What's next? But yeah, wait, what
was the question again?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
And we got that now in your that you wanted
to do but we're advised never to do.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Yeah. So it really wasn't a trick so much as
it's dependent on the cultures. Like for instance, in Papua
New Guinea where we have an episode will be filming,
uh or one of our episodes. You know, there is
a tribe there in a community, the asthmad people who
are cannibals, and you have to have government protection to

(01:01:29):
go in there. But it's like you know, in Indonesia,
they really strongly believe in magic, and you know, going
into some of these places, it is advised that you
don't want to seem like you're actually, you know, have
magical powers, because that could be dangerous for your health.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
They're going to give you and everybody in the camera crew,
they will sacrifice you to gain your powers. Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
They eat me to get my powers. So they don't
care about the camera crew, No, they let them do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Listen, I would eat a person if I was told
if my whole life was living outdoors halfway in halfway,
not camping and all that night stuff, and somebody has said, hey,
if we eat this magic man, we get some powers,
they'd be like, dude, I'm fucking down.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
This guy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Yeah, so that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
What else?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
What else you got going on? I mean, you know,
you're like the highlight there, man, Man, Kevin, are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
You the cabinet guy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
He is? Man, This is the twist right here, This
is the twist.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
This is it. Kevin is from Egypt, by the way,
Oh my god, yeah, he's one from Egypt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I'm at the end of this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
He's got a filter of a lonely man living in
Dixon City filter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
I know, my my Jewish body, which screams, I'm not
wearing a shirt. I just uh, I'm just that white.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Tony. Tony. Look, Tony's pulling off the I got to know.
Tony's got the Jewish Hank Hill right now, you king
of the Hill.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
What I do list it's working. What was the question.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
You told don't do it, don't do it, don't do
it in Papa New Guinea.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah, it was just don't do anything that's gonna make
you look like a real magician. And like, you know,
definitely have the warning label, have the you know, the
translators say to the chief and the leaders, this is
just entertainment. He's just entertaining you. So you know, I
don't wake up in the middle of the night outside
of camp and there's like all these you know, yeah,

(01:03:37):
you're ye, yeah, yeah, I'm being cooked over fire.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
That would be yeah, that'd be that would not be
the way to wake up or to not wake up,
so to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
You know, I'm sure you have interest in going back
to Egypt, even for another season. Yeah, but you know,
all in not not that I'm a producer by any means,
but I could see it in your future.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Yeah, now I know you're the psychic there is That's
what it is, gotcha, But no, I I yeah, I
really did love Egypt. Egypt was one of my most
It was the probably my favorite place that I went,
simply probably because it was the first place I ever traveled,
but also there was just so much to see. And

(01:04:25):
as a kid, I was always fascinated by Egypt. I
you know, I always wanted to go, and I did
almost get arrested in Egypt. It was kind of crazy.
I was going to the Luksar Temple and I my
buddy was with me used to be a bounty hunter
and so he had all these skills. He was a
future of recovery agent, and so we went inside the

(01:04:45):
temple and wait, not dog right. It would have been
cool though, to have it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
That would have been cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, it feels cool for five minutes until you're like none,
You're like yeah, yeah. Then it's like, hey, Paul, would
you stop smoking.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Yes, It's like I got I come home. I have
lung cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I'm like, oh, you almost got arrested in Egypt. You
almost got arrested there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
So yeah, so I almost So I was looking at
these these murals and there's the hieroglyphics, and I at
that time I could read some of them, because, like
I said, I was fascinated by Egypt. And so I said,
the same camera that we filmed in the Connach clearly
and the bizarre, let's film me explaining what they say.
So James turns on the camera and I'm like, okay,
so I start reading everything and this I mean, he

(01:05:36):
he he seemed like he was a crazed holmost guy,
but he wasn't. He came in front of the camera
stopped said no, no, no, no filming, no filming, and
uh He's like you cannot film he or you cannot
do this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
And you're like, oh, oh, sorry, we didn't you know,
sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
I didn't know. I was just gonna, you know, film
this and take it home because I love Egypt. So
we were like, all right, this guy's really mad, like
you wouldn't stop yelling, and so we're like we're gonna
just leave.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
We're very sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
And as we started to leave, it was like, seriously,
it was like Indiana Jones. Out of the corner of
my eye, you know, there's rows of pillars, and so
there were these guys sneaking around the corner with flip
phones and taking photos and then hiding, and it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Was really weird.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
And James noticed that. He's like, you know, there's guys
taking photos of us. And I was like, yeah, I
just saw one guy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I mean, he was pretty obvious, Like there was just
literally one guy like this taking photos and he didn't
hide at all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
I was like, I saw that one. He's still doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
And so we kept going and then at the entrance
we had twenty people, our twenty armed guards with AK
forty seven's pointing the guns at us. I mean, and
this is this is a tourist attraction. And then the
inspector came forward. He kind of cut through the crowd
came up to me and he said, come with me.
And at that moment, you know, I thought this was
it was surreal to me. I thought it was like

(01:06:50):
a movie. So I wasn't that scared, and I started,
for some reason just saying, oh, you know, sorry, we're
just gonna leave, you know, like we were just taking
some you know, pictures, and I guess we you know,
we can't do that, but sorry, we're just gonna. I
didn't think they were gonna shoot me because I'm like, well,
I'm an American tourist. Why would they do that in
front of, you know, all these people. But James pulled

(01:07:10):
me aside. He's like, just shut up, you know, and
I was like, okay, okay, okayage yeah yeah, you know
he did, oh yeah, oh yeah. And so then I
stayed quiet and we went into this interrogation room and
I started it started to feel really real at that moment,
and I I like the joke of it started to

(01:07:30):
fade away, because you know, we would always joke, he
and I together, and it wasn't funny anymore, Like it
was serious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
And so the inspector comes up to me, he said,
did you film anything on this camera?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
And uh?

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I was like, we were just taking photos, like and
he's like, you know it's illegal to film. Did you
film anything? And then James said He looks at me
and he gives me kind of like this unspoken signal,
and I knew what he meant. He basically meant, get
the memory card out of the car, out of the camera,
do some sleight of hand. So he starts standing up
and talking to the guy and you know, redirecting his attention, saying,

(01:08:06):
so excuse me, what is this all about? And he
looks over at me and I pop open the camera
in front of everyone. I'm just kind of doing some
slight of hand and I pull it out and I
put a new card in there, one that we didn't
and I just close it and I just put it
right back of my lap and I can get it
rid of that sits back down and he's like, did
you film anything?

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
We're going to go back to this question. I said,
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
I knew he was going to ask for the camera.
He's like, let me see the camera.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Passed it over.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
There was nothing on there. And I was like, say, god,
you know. And James was like, good one. And so
then he goes inside to the and they start talking
for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
We're there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
It seems like twenty minutes. He comes back out and
he brings James in, and then James goes in talks
to James. James comes back to me and he says, so,
you're in big trouble. They're not going to put me
in jail, but they want to put you in jail.
And I said why and he's like, because you cannot
impersonate an Egyptologist. And they're saying you are impersonating in
Egypt all just on oh, which is a double offence.

(01:09:04):
And I was like, no, I wasn't what there's no,
I wasn't doing that. And he said, here's the deal.
He's like, and he's like, I talked with them. If
we give them three thousand Egyptian pounds, they let us go.
And he's like, it's about the money. And I'm like, oh,
there it is. And I'm like, how much is that
and he's like, it's three hundred bucks. We give him
three hundred bucks, they're gonna pay the janitor, they're gonna

(01:09:26):
pay the rest of the guards, they're gonna pay themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
We go and I was like, okay, cool, So we did.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
And the worst part about this was that one of
the guards accompanying us to an ATM we had to
get on a motorcycle that was the size that only
one human being should be on, but all three of
us had.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
To get on there like up here, just like a circus,
a circus mobed.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Yeah, so I'm on the back with my legs basically
dangling off and scraping on the floor and I'm like,
what the hell is happen And he's like swerving through
traffic and I'm like falling off the thing. And there's
three dudes on this small mobed bike and we could
have walked. It was literally a block. And finally he's like,

(01:10:13):
here done, we all get off. Pay the money, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
And they're getting three thousand pounds. They're like, we will
get you. You'll give you a ride.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
There, you know we'll get it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
We'll give you a ride.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, I've been, I've been there. I've traveled
before too. I'm Saudi Arabia, Philippines a cutter.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
You know, there are those scenarios where you know when
you're you're you're cracking me up more than I'm more
than I'm expressing right now when it's like three people
on one motorcycle. Because I've seen that, I've been the
guy on a motorcycle, and then hey can I get
a ride?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Can I get a ride? Turns into can me my
friend and my other friend? You won't even notice him, Uh,
also get a ride, just like the tag along kind
of thing. Yes, it's just it's tricky. But Sparky was
actually there and got a uh photographic depiction of what's
going on, Sparky, what happened? What really happened? And now

(01:11:08):
I will make the pyramid fly away. Hey wait, Sparky,
bring it back. I can't. The flight manual is an
hieroglyphics hashtag pyramid scheme.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
All the time. Every time in Egypt they hit you
at the pyramid scheme.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Man, oh man, they scammed you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
No word to lie. They tell you when you enter
Egypt that that there are several scams that that they
hit you with out near the pyramids, and one of
them is an actual pyramid. They give you a free pyramid,
and they say, oh, here's a free gift. Here's a
free gift. Are you a Medican, Oh, here a free gift.
And then they get the cops after you because they
say that you stole whatever merchandise that they were they

(01:11:54):
were giving to you as a free gift exactly. And
then you have to pay money in order to get
away from the cops.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
And the cops are in on it too. Cops are
you're like, oh my god, I'm going to have to
arrest you. I have done too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
They do the same with scarerows. They do the same
with pyramids, and they have like this pamphlet thing that
they give you and all of it's just a giant
scam and it's like the roadmap to the Pyramids.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Yes, what they didn't have was after that event, I
did go to the Bizarre and I learned the secret
again was I can magic my way out of this
next time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
That's the secret. That's the secret.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Once they know you're magical, I'll bets they're off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Look, I wish everybody said that said that same mentality.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
So you should have just convince them that you're a
time traveler and be like, oh my god, yeah, what
happened to the pyramids? These used to be glories, glories.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
In the sand?

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Quick you hit them up? Everyone help.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Yeah, I should have said that. I should have said,
you know, they could have been back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
For another for another season. Maybe, Yeah, Seas Richie, we
do have to end this show though. I'm sorry, Kevin God,
I know, I know is out. He went over his hour.
He went over his hour. That's yeah, And I am
way okay with that talk too much. No, No, you
were perfect, you were perfect perfect? Now, uh, rich if

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people were going to watch you on t B, how
would they find you on the t B, so for.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
To B to watch the show.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
The search Culture Shock Bridging Cultures through Magic, not just
Culture Shop, but you have to do Culture Shock Bridging
Cultures through Magic. And you can watch the full first season,
all six episodes up there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Awesome, awesome, Are you doing any shows? Are you doing anything?

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Well, I know you're doing the new season, but.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Yep, so I've got we're shooting the second season of
Culture Shock. Also, I'm doing a live show. It's called
Diary of Magic and it's own wiggle room. It's basically
a touring show throughout the United States. You can get
tickets and learn about if it's going to be in
your state at www dot expedition rich dot com. That's
my personal website that has all of my adventures and

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everything that I'm doing up to date.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Very cool, very cool, all around. Well Rich, I can't
wait for season one, season two, season three. I can't
wait for this other thing to get not just to
be recognized, but to get yourself recognized. This is this
is me National Geographic Discovery. These guys missed out on
it big time. It's it's blending both reality concept and

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one on one magic and uh you know, it's taking
street magic but expanding it globally to the point where
you get to see other cultures just freak out over
over what you're doing. And you know, my hat's Me and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Kevin are always looking for our directorial debut, by.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
The way, Yeah, you know you could. And I've had
a couple of directorial debuts. Okay, well, nothing I'm proud of.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
I think that's a different podcast for another time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Wayfair and where you find them anyways, big shout out
to rich Manley, Thank you very much for coming on
our show and greasing us with your your humbleness. There
you are, you know, a god amongst men. It is
what it is, sir, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Tony.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Well, that will change one day. You will see me
as the homeless Man number three.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
We're waiting. We're waiting for it. It's gonna be in
a Hallmark movie, but it'll it'll be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
You gotta love your life, but it's really tough for
you to be homeless.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
You know, you gotta wonder why I want to be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I mean, reach for what you get.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
You did not limit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
This is a problem, wretch. If you if you actually
try to do the homeless guy thing. In reality, people
will build a fucking house around you do. You'll hear
like construction workers like what's going on? Like, sir, we
saw you outside. We heard, we decided this is where
we're building. Go through.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Carter is gonna come and build your house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yeah, fucking start snow and turns into the perfect igloo.
Jimmy Carter, jus.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Get and so cow this. How did this even happen?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Yeah, Jeffy happens Carter Smarty. You can unmute yourself, sir,
to tell us where you can find us. If you
were looking for the Pod Guys podcast, there you go, Spark,
you got this happened. Hit the button.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
He's doing it. He's doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
We're hitting the button. We do the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
This is why we give him the big board right now.
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Anyways, you can find us on all your streaming fantastic
blah blah blahs wherever you stream your favorite podcast. Of course.
I'm Tony kas Kevin Ary, the ever loving Picasso Last
Marque rich Manly. Thank you very much, sir, Thank you
guys for having me. We'll catch you next Monday for

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the Pod Guys podcast. Have a great night,