The Podguyz Podcast with music producer Jay Adams

The iconic music producer joins the podguyz this week, too discuss music, family and faith. current topics and current problems get discussed this week. Tune in, laugh and share.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bunch of questions or anything where it's just like, how
dare you?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
Diddy, Oh no, Goddy, Yeah, because we can't have Diddy
and anything in this uh in this upstanding podcast of ours.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yep yea four years equals one day per person he trafficked.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
You know, do the math on it. It's uh time
is up?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Did up?

Speaker 5 (00:45):
One?

Speaker 6 (00:46):
One?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Lesparkue, and Sparky says, Hi, they're on the big board.
For people that are familiar with the format of the show,
you know what spark he's about. For people that don't
and are joining us for the first time, Sparky kind
of draws what he sees or has experienced throughout the week.
Sparky has been on the tail end of the big

(01:11):
media rite in this guy right, there was that three
I at list that me and Tony were debating. I
think it's an alien spacecraft, Tony says, Kevin, I don't
give a ship. So he's on the item, give a
ship side of it in spacecraft.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's all I'm hoping for.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, it's it's the weirdest thing because you know, NASA's like, oh,
it's a it's just a meteorite. It's like, well, why
are there windows? Then they're like fucking rocks that windows sometimes?
Next question, you know, dude, just say just say, just
say weather balloon. Then you know, like the last time
that we got lied to so hard was with the
whole Epstein thing.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
We have Jay Adams here, Jay Adams, music producer.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hollywood music influencer, Holly, you're out there in Hollywood.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
Right yeah, Man, out here in Hollywood, Man la la
lay as were weird?

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Thank you man. There you go. Brother, you've been out
here before.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I have I like this, meet I like this. This
is okay. So more than just an executive, Jay Adams
is a visionary dedicated to creating opportunities, elevating new voices,
and shaping the future of entertainment for generations to come.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
That is not just puffery right there, because.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You've gone You've been in the business for quite some
time and have had some success stories along the way.
Am I right?

Speaker 7 (02:35):
Yes, I have I been a part of a lot
of projects, especially early on in my career, you know,
as a promoter. Man, so I like to say I
was able to see the business from the ground up.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, and it the business changes every season, not just
every year, but you know like oh, here comes fall time,
and certain people get pushed out and certain people get
pushed in. Uh I notice even more, you know, more
of the old stuff is kind of like the new stuff.
Where around the fall time, music industries trying to push

(03:08):
the whole Halloween narrative. See how far they can get
it right. Christmas time, they're always like they're dethawing Mariah
Carey to tell everybody all she wants for Christmas? Is
you God, don't do it, Tony. It's gonna get stuck
in everybody's heads.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
You know. Oh, man, please don't get me started too early.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Who is she dating? Jaye? Who is she dating for
the longest time? That kid?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
What was it kid's name? Oh?

Speaker 7 (03:41):
Man, I work with the family, so I can't say
his name. Man, But my boy, the one he has
the twins with that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, man,
my boy Nick man Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Nick Nick Cannon. Now Nick Cannon's gotten real interesting over
the years, he's gotten really interesting, great personality right off
the rip, you know, yeah, talented, very talented, And then
he's got these off the cuff comments where you're like,
oh really yeah, getting in diving into the World War

(04:16):
two knowledge zone. And I think now I've done a
fact check on what he says and about I think
he's got ninety percent of it down correct, right. The
problem is that when you're saying such you know, correct
phrases in the entertainment industry about that time and period, well,

(04:37):
then from certain agencies, they feel like they don't want
to sell you anymore. They don't want to you know,
sell your product, they don't want to give you any
big push anymore. So he kind of gotten you know,
buried from that idea, even though in reality he's just
flexing some knowledge that he came across and continued to,
you know, go down that rabbit hole. So I didn't

(04:58):
have a problem with what he was saying. In fact,
you know, I don't have a problem with what anybody's saying.
I could hear any any dude I got like a
homeless guy. He screams outside a whole bunch of ships
that the world is going to end. Now, one day
he's going to be right, and I'm gonna be like,
see that motherfucker over there. You know he's he was
he told everybody.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Got it right today. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
She was married to him, and I'm thinking to myself,
you know when a when an older woman like Mariah
Carey goes younger like that, Yeah, it's uh cougar.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Cougar mentality definitely comes.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
A lot of Yeah, she's a she's a well, Mariah's
coming to some tricky territory. On September eleven, she was
supposed to have an interview about her depression two thousand
and one. Now they canceled it because of the terrorist attacks.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
You know, like.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
That was a George Carlin was supposed to have a
comedy special released on September eleven, and the comedy specials
name was I Like It When a lot of people
die sometimes by George Carlin. So that got pushed down
the road. He still got paid for that idea. So
how long have you known? Nick Cannon and the family

(06:14):
just thrown it out there.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Woo man, I would say at least since two thousand
and nine.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
You know, me being in between, I worked in the
gospel industry, mainstream ministry.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
So it was really his father, you know, with his
ministerial background, and some producers of mine were working on
an artist that they were working with out of Africa,
but he was part now and so ever since then.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Man, the family's really been interesting.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
It's really been a lot lately, been real close to
especially like Gabriel, what he's got going on after his
show with the Jonas Brothers that was real successful with Hulu,
and just really meeting his father, you know, and seeing
really how those kids grew up.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Man. You know Nick Man. I always say this about.

Speaker 7 (07:01):
Nick Man, you know, like when you were mentioning about
what he went through. And you know, Nick is a genius,
right so being able to stay as relevant as long
as he's done it. And I think when he hit
that spot, he kind of figured out it's kind of like,
that's not what Hollywood wants, this is what I'm in.
But he stood his ground, you know, with his platform.

(07:22):
But I think Nick is so smart. He knows exactly
what to give the industry to keep himself relevant.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Man.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
So he's still a young man that even at my age, Man,
that I kind of not say study, but I pay
attention to a lot of his because it's not really gimmicks, right,
Like when Nick goes through his thing, it's really what
he's feeling and what he's thinking.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Right, Well, Nick Cannon did he comes from the I'll
backtrack it a little bit because it needs to be
kind of covered on this one, right. The the Jackson
five sparked interest within everybody to get their kids together.
You know, black or white, doesn't matter. Partridge family, you know,

(08:13):
the Partridge Family was, you know, whatever little TV show thing,
but the Jackson five to get out there. And you
know that's around the sixties into the seventies. So now
the seventies are starting now. Families are trying to mimic
that idea and they're being somewhat successful, but they don't

(08:37):
want pure copycats eighties and nineties and all that nice stuff.
So the Cannons especially have all these talented kids, and
there are many families out there like that to the
point where the company you have to be something completely
special to break through the ceiling, or at least be

(08:58):
represented by a special agency.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
And that's where you come into play.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Am I am?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
I correct on that.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Yeah, I come into play really like right now, I'm in.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Between three different agencies.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
So normally what I tell everybody, Like, when I came
up as an actor, I was fortunate enough that my
mother was able to you know, I went to an audition.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
I was able to get into acting school.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
That's really the route you want to go, right, So
really into the route of acting school.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Then you're really right there with the agents. Right.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
That was back in the nineties. Today, it's a whole
lot easier in my.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Opinion, if you're consistent, because you have the Internet. Right.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
But like I tell people, like right now, right, I
can submit you five times over to these agencies. When
you get up to a meeting, you gotta go kill it.
It's really not like you, Yeah, you gotta kill it,
man like, because if they're not already checking for you

(10:01):
with the Internet. Like I tell my son, who you know,
who's always around me in the entertainment business, right, I
tell him all the time, you can get a lot
of traction just on.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Your Instagram or your TikTok.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
Right, Then my job becomes easier because now I'm just
giving you professional representation. Right, I'm just I'm just I'm
just polishing the car you've already bought.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
The Porsch.

Speaker 7 (10:25):
I'm just I'm just polishing it and making his showroom ready.
If Nick Cannon's family had the Internet today, it's kind
of hard to say how big they would have been
that game over then, right because their dad has footage, man,
from when they were kids. I mean he literally wanted

(10:47):
to you know, like talking about Joe Jackson like he's
got footage.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
They've been doing this for a long time, man.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
It's it has to check every box.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
You have to be able to sing and you know,
to uh a listenability area. You know, you have to
be able to sing great dance as well coordinate the
whole thing. That's what I think is really uh frustrating
about the mumble wrappers. They don't have to do anything

(11:20):
like that.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, that's really been a sore spot for the industry
for some years.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Man. I really think we're gonna look back on hip hop.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's now some Sometimes you listen to it and you're like, oh,
and you kind of I kind of like, you know,
catch myself bob my head and I'm like, wait a second,
it's all chorus. It's just all chorus, very little interlude
and then bam back to the chorus and you're like,
get hit with the hook. Yeah, yeah, like children would

(11:52):
really like kids between the ages of six to eleven
were really into Rapper six nine sixty nine because Rapper
six nine six nine had the mentality of a six
to eleven year old sort of thing, you know, where
the cops got him and they said we're gonna get
you with racketeering and he's like, I don't play tennis,
and they're like, no, not that kind of.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Racket right right, right, right right. You didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
And to be honest, like when it when rap was
the biggest, it was more gang mentality. Uh, it was
feuding of crips and bloods and there was a lot
more I don't know, a lot more beef in between,

(12:46):
you know, East coast, West coast, So it was it
was a big, big thing. Now everybody's just feuding with themselves,
like they're like, oh, I don't know, let's let's rap
about our feelings.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well no, Tony, like you pointed out a couple of
weeks ago, go the women, the women.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Are now getting into it.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, the girls are getting into it, Cardi B and.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
Yeah, but they're just not But the thing right now
is they really don't have to.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
You know, music has never really had to do that, to.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
Be honest, right, It's like like I talked to the
old school, like especially in radio and retail. So if
you go back to like you know, VIP Records, Kelvin Anderson,
Like when you really think about and look at the
history of where rap went, it was still gonna be big.
It never had to do that. It never had to
be about crips and bloods. It never had to be

(13:38):
like that. Like the technology was gonna be what technology was.
The genre was gonna be as good, like when we're
writing when we're back now to writing party songs, writing money,
writing songs about success your lifestyle, like that was always
gonna be big. I always tell people, man like, one
of my favorite genres still is rock and roll. You know, like,

(14:00):
look how long the Rolling Stones have done it? Man Like,
we were having a Grammy conversation about them and what
five thousand songs and two hundred and fifty Grammy something
like that, But we were having a conversation about them
last night.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Just writing good to me. To me, this is just me.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
From a songwriter standpoint, just writing good music is always
gonna win, Like rap did not have to go down
the silly path that it went man to.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
Now we're getting reco cases.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
It's crazy, correct, Yeah, yeah, the and it's glorifying the
worst parts of human nature, where you know, you have
the violence, you have greed, gluttony, the whole, the whole,
the whole spectrum of negative negativity, and you know.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
There's a crowd out there for it.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
And if you're listening to that kind of music, right
and you're feeling that kind of way twenty four to seven,
you know all the time, eventually your personality and your
actions are gonna mimic that idea, and the cops are
gonna pick it out real easy. We used to get
pulled over all the time whenever we'd blest Dmax Now

(15:16):
we weren't doing nothing, but the cops were just like,
let's fucking do it, you know, just in case, you know,
yeah yeah, and they would just be like, you know,
why we pulled you over? And you know this was
before cell phones had cameras on them, you know, so
they we would be like, no, were we speeding, no
playing rap music loud? We should take out of this

(15:38):
car and beat the hell out of you right now.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
In fact, give me that CD. We're like, no way,
They're like, fine, we're towing your car.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Then, you know, yeah, you know, before cell phones had camp,
before we had all cameras on us and and all
that nice stuff.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Thank God for Big Brother on our cameras right there
listening and hearing and all that nice crap for a degree.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
But even after thirty even after like I would say,
twenty years, a solid twenty years of evidence against that idea,
everything has kind of swayen. There's the Karen videos I
think of right where you got these short, fat, complaining
blonde women. They're you know, throwing themselves on the ground saying,

(16:23):
oh he hit me. Now in the nineties, if she's
on the ground called nine one one saying she saying
you hit her, you pushed her down, You're going to
jail as a guy. That's happening, hands down, No questions asked,
because why would she lie? If I say no, she
threw herself on the ground, the CoP's gonna look at
me like I'm some kind of fucking asshole, and no

(16:45):
way you're getting cuffed.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Sorry, see you later.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, we got cameras to show exactly how fucked up
people actually are, how whacked out they're fucking whacked doodles.
They're throwing themselves in front of cars, have to And
if you were to say this without video evidence, you
sound like a person that's gone.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Sparky's got something on the big board right there, So
we got to get the Sparky's big board. Sparky flip
that beautiful board around time to open the Hypervolic Chamber.
Christmas is coming open November one. Mariah Carey, so she
is currently she is currently thawing out right.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Oh oh, she was in the news lately too. Here
it comes. I've already been pre rolling us out, getting
us ready.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
God, Jay, I do have to ask a question. Your background, sir,
is in the gospel. As far as gospel music. Where
are you now with the genre that you're at?

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well right now, I'm really into.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
Going back to I'm going going back to I do,
I'm going back to faith based. I'm really afraid of
rap right now. I got some crazy stories that I've
almost lost my life a few times in these clubs.
I don't like promoting hip hop parties too much in
La gets kind of crazy in La. So so for me,

(18:20):
you know, my number one artist right now is still
Truth with the album Undeniable.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
He makes such good music.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Uh, He's just a real pure writer, and I'm still
into that.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
I'm very much into that. I'm also I'm not never
gonna be like Quincy Jones we are the world. But
I'm really into you know, artists coming together. Now at that.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Point, you could just cut a check, right, just given
a check.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
But I am saying, you know, I do like the
Times records, man, Like you know, this is just me man.
You know, I come from a don't laugh gospel rock
Metallica still my favorite band, Helly lost Or which is
still my favorite drummer. Then when I was going to college,

(19:10):
i played opera. So I'm a little wacky, some people say,
but you know, to me, it's well rounded. So for me,
I'm just really about good records right now, guys, you
know what I mean. So that's really where I'm at.
I do want to do some work with Rodney Jerkins
because of Sassy. I'm doing some work with Race Cavo
out of New York. So that means I'm you know,

(19:32):
like the ghost Face Killers, the wu tangs. So I'm
still into the good, you know, the dope beat break records.
But don't come to me with that drill music man
in that trap, because I'm gonna not even answer my emails.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
So totally totally, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Jay, The only thing I can see in your future
is K pop music.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Hey, man, you know.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
I like a few K pop songs, man, yeah, man, Man,
But I'm gonna tell you what's really in my future, man,
is a country album.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Man.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
One of my producers produced a pretty nice country record.
I don't like what they're doing with the AI country,
you know, but I'm really in the country music too, Man.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
I really see a lane I've always see.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
I like anything that lasts long, like you know, like
country and rock and roll is still two of my
top genres because I'm all about longevity and legacy, right,
and I'm all about radio and that's money. I tell artists,
you know, you want to write something that you can
get paid on the rest of your life.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Hack, yeah right, you want to catalog? Man.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
The whole goal is to not write a song to
just be on the radio for sixteen weeks and then
we never hear it again. That's That's why I say,
you know, I'm still the creator of the hip hop
rock star because we're not creating We're not creating rock
stars anymore.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
We're not creating stars anymore.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
Right, We're we're creating just music to make us money today,
but we're not creating stars anymore.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
So that's really what I'm about, right.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
It's uh yeah, And it's it's tough to get a band,
like a band together such as like I mean, I'm
a big James Brown fan. He had such an iconic
voice and a fucked up mind to go along with
it because his background was just unbelievably treacherous throughout the way.

(21:34):
You know, So when he did get together with the Flames,
and then when record companies found them, they were like, oh,
so no, this is this is the guy now. And
without all the cocaine he did, like all of the cocaine,
holy shit.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
The uh, the.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Work schedule that he was told that he had to
have in the drive. You know, you're using it at
that point, not even to get high, but for medicinal
purpose from going from one venue to the next. And
the energy that he had to bring on stage every
night on top of it, and then his musical understanding
was not there, okay at all. He had to be

(22:14):
corrected several times over and over, and kind of stumbled
onto something that already existed that George Clinton was doing
with the with the funk idea. So and he stumbled
onto it purely by mistake. George Clinton did not stumble.
Man's a goddamn genius. So bands like you know, like

(22:41):
stars like James Brown should have been stars like George
Clinton's sliding the Steps, sliding the family Stone. You know,
the seventies into the eighties, those were star making days.
And then when I think it was right on the
cliff of where Michael jack And meets Nirvana. You remember

(23:01):
that area, Yeah, Michael Jackson meets Nirvana, something happened. The
world got re tapped into why we should all hate
each other again, you know, why we should sell fyden,
why we should hate you know, the next person over
as well.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
And you call it the musical roller coaster ride.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, you had some old school funk, you had some
soul music.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Then he had grunge.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, the Mick Jaggers though, like David Bowie's especially, I'm
a big Bob Dylan guy myself.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
The Mystery.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Like Bob Dylan hit every possible genre that he could do,
he did gospel as well, especially the song Serve Somebody.
I don't know if you've sampled that before, but the
check it out, you gotta check it Slow Train Coming.
That's a great one of his best, if only gospel

(23:59):
album that is really worth it around. But but gospel,
there's only so much you can do with certain gospel.
That's why when you said country, I always count that
as like the kiss of death for hip hop because
it's kind of like it feels like a demographic pull
from you know, people that enjoy hip hop, where it's like, hey,

(24:23):
country people, maybe maybe we dance a little faster, and
you know, it gets a little bit of the younger
country crowd, the Taylor Swift group demographically speaking. Just I
don't know. I can't find one case scenario where I
could say and that worked perfect. And I love like

(24:44):
a timeless song where it's like, you know, what's that?
What's that one that that got really really popular and
I'm forgetting it a little bit, but I'll Nelly, I think,
did it right? What was that?

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Nellie did one?

Speaker 7 (25:00):
And trying to think who else man gave a gave
a shout out of it. But to be honest, man,
there's a lot of producers, especially and you know guys
in my position, like as an A and R manager.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Like for me, the one of the biggest benefits I have,
like I.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Said, is my mother and you know, my raising from
playing the drums to the accordingon to the handbails.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
If you can play that, if you could play the drums,
you could play anything. I started off on the drums.
Myself play the drums, piano, guitar, harmonica, you know the
I always felt like I was better at stand up
comedy than doing the whole music thing because working with others,
you know, some people can do it. Other times I'm like,
why don't you just read the fucking music?

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Have you right?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Right? Have you ever gotten to the point with that
with certain uh with certain artists where they're like, hey,
I got a great idea.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
It's like, no, you don't, Yeah that you know what,
you gotta have them like, no, that's not a great idea.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Moving on. Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Of times you really got to take the reins, you
know what I'm saying, and just let's get the record done.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
That's why I love the studio process.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
So, man, you know I think when i'm I think though, really, Man, though,
when I do get older, I do what I do
want to reach out. Like you know, one of my
producers in Ohio man shout out to one five. You know,
we share cultural differences all the time that I love.
He's a white guy in Ohio. You know, I'm a
black guy out here in LA And when I listened

(26:30):
to him as a producer, I always tell him, you know,
just be you, right. So when he goes from you know,
his dad's love of let's just say rock and country,
but he's a hip hop guy, right. And I really
started thinking about it, man, when I heard this, you know,
this country album he put out and then he started
playing with AI and it was good. And he put

(26:51):
out a rock album and I was listening to it
and I was like, do I want.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
To do something like ACDC and run DMC. Yeah? I see,
Like for me, man, growing up, right, that's one.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Of the things that really made me love hip hop
and rock and roll.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Almost at the same time was walked this way.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
You know, I think I think I was you know
what year was that, because my dad died in eighty three.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I think that was nineteen ninety on the dot.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yeah, So it's like when I remember so I had
to be like what fourteen fifteen, and you know, just
I just love those records, man. And then when Rick
Rubin got to death Jam the what he brought to
death Jam as a producer.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
I just think music can go so much further if we.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Just get out of this genre box that I will
never live in because I'm just a musician.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
I don't give a dang what it is.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
If it's a hot record, I'm with it, like I'm
gonna go find the best produced if you bring me
a hot idea.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Now when you say when you say genre box, I'm
gonna give you my interpretation of what you you mean.
Where people associate themselves with liking x y Z. So
they can't like ABC because they like x y Z.
Because if they like one thing, well they shouldn't like
the other thing. People like to restrict themselves, like you know,

(28:17):
you ever hear that whole thing. You're either you either
like the Eagles or.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
You like CCR.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
You can like both.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
You could you could hate all of the Eagles songs
but like one and that's fine, that's good. You can
like one song from somebody, same scenario for the other
uh for for CCR. The The tricky thing is there
are some artists out there that are easy to hate.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, can't Swift.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Tony.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I'm gonna throw out there because Taylor Swift is easily hateable.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I love I love Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I'm not saying that I'm a Tata fan, you know
I'm not. I'm not a fan of her music. I
love her particular.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Gambit that she happened.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Dude, she throws, she throws down like none before. And
not to say that like even her latest record mediocre
at best. Her songwriting, her her musical ability, it's all right.
You know what, she has a clientele.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
She has cost it's got.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
The ping pong thing.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
No, she's got night.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't know what rhymes with night? Maybe right myself.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Hey, isn't this easy?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
And you said something, then I said something else, and
then he said something that somebody else said something.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And look, if she can make a song about Travis
Kelsey's dick, just throw it out there.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm throwing it out there that she's she's been Her
parents have been exploiting her since the young age of five,
the girl, and they've been that's what we do out here,
So she's been she's been parading her child around like
this that the girl doesn't know anything else. Besides by

(30:26):
the time she figured out to re release her albums,
which I'm sure, Jay, you're familiar with artists re releasing
their albums after their digital cutting, just putting out the
same song so that way they can get all the cash.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
We all know the uh.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
For those that don't know, the TLC rule, Remember the
TLC rule. How much money, how much money is going
to taxes, how much money is going in their pocket,
how much money is being going to the agency and
all that nice stuff. How much should the agency be
taking from the artist?

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Okay, well, it depends on the level in the reach
of the agency, in my opinion. Right, in my opinion,
I always say it depends on your reach and what
you can do, right, So I don't I don't have
a problem with big agencies getting what they are asking

(31:23):
for these days. The problem I have is not serving
the artists. And I'm gonna always catch flat from that
in the industry. But I'm always an artist guy because
I was an artist first, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
No, that's one hundred percent correct though, Jay, You're right
on it, dude.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, No, I agree on a thousand percent. But we
also help the artists.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
There's nothing.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
We also have an artist on staff right here, Sparky.
He's got something there on the big board drawing. We
don't we don't take a.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Cut of any of his pictures, you know at all.
Sparky flipped that big beautiful board around there. It's called
brown do there it is right there. Yeah, Hey, I
got a great idea more triangle.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
No, you will use the cow bell.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Ah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, yeah, the the old SNL sketch of you know,
you know, I'm gonna need more cow bell. You know,
have you ever gotten into people's ears where you're just like,
you want to mute certain instruments that don't need to
be there and then highlight others that really need to

(32:33):
be in there. And have you ever had to do
something like that?

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Yeah, especially when artists a lot of times are produced
in their own tracks and they want to bring them
in and can't wait to show them to you, and
you get all these instruments that you don't need to hear.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, you just you know, I'm gonna throw up a
good instance for that one, because, for instance, I heard
one recently and the girl that sings APT, I don't
remember her name, but she's doing it with Bruno Mars.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Do you know who I'm talking about?

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Man?

Speaker 7 (33:05):
Normally I would have my iPad of it to get
that right for you. I can't tell you right now
the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
No, I'm gonna look it up real quick. Here, Rose,
That's what I was. Okay, So Rose, she was in.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
Black was a black pink, I believe, if I remember correctly,
And she in particular came out with this song and
uh in a p T.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
And it was her number one hit song that she
came out with as a as an artist. Now recently,
she just played on on an interview her original song
for APT, the one that wasn't done by by by
Bruno Mars, And the song would have been a hit

(34:01):
regardless without.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Bruno Mars, without Bruno in.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
My opinion, In my opinion, I feel like it would
have been number one hit anyways.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
The way that Bruno.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Mars changed the song and did it into whatever the
radio hit that it is now, I feel like it
would have done the same radio hit, but I feel
like because it has the name Bruno Mars and he
had to throw his Latin flair on it. Is there

(34:34):
a song in particular that you have changed from your
production standpoint for an artist that was like.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Oh, well this is my song.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
It's a great song, but we need to change it
in a different way.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah. I've changed a few songs, man.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
I mean one in particular, one of my guys back
in the days mister Fiddie comes out season now, I
changed one of his songs. Actually what the b producer
when he wasn't in the studio and when he came
back in, I even put his cousin on the song,
right on part of the hook.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
You know. It did real.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Good internationally, and that's when I first started hitting the
international market heavy, which was like in twenty and thirteen.
That's still when let me see Inguru's Fontana was we
were Fontana. That's when we were still with ingrous so
ingrools back then. So I've done that before. Artists fight that,
but a lot of times, man like with the Bruno

(35:33):
Mars thing, what artists don't realize is even today it's true.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
It's relationship based to a lot of it.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
You have to realize, like you know, Bruno is known
like you got commercial success.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
It's kind of like what a producer I deal with.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Now, you know, I'm gonna let him change anyway he
wants because his stuff goes to the radio, gets nominated
for Grammys.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Right, he figured out the sauce.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Right, So as art is, do you want to success
or do you want to be right? Except you know,
sometimes it's about you want to be right? But this
is successful, So we're gonna do this.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, who would you say?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's the most overrated star right now on the radio,
who no matter what they put out, will be a
number one top hit without them having to do much effort.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
That is so scan that you asked me that man.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
All right, all right, all right, all right, a little
bit lighter.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
No, no, no, no, it's not splendolous in anyway.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
Well, because there's always the same artist for me for
the past ten years, at least.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I have one artist that's the same as same.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
As well, it's drake Man. It's always there. It is
drake Man. But you know, being in La the.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Dodgers, just one I'm feeling good and I'm not trying
to stump Drake or run him over it and the
money Carlo or nothing but day you asked me.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
That on Monday night.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
Man, when it's the parade today. But it's Drake, man,
no matter what, he sing the A, B c's.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
And it's gonna be a number one.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I mean, I mean, how old is the girl he's
singing the ABC's too, though, that's the big question, you know,
that's the you like, I don't want to go and like,
drake it out of my house. She's a baby, you know.
Oh man, it's not ready yet, you know, the getting

(37:27):
back to it.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
A hit song? Yeah, that you were surprised was a hit.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Biggest surprise though where you were like you knew about
it and you said to yourself and your best judgment, no,
and then they put it off there anyways and it
caught fire.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Not to remember, man, it's probably.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Was it Drop It Like It's Hot by Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Was probably even more than that. That that's one. But
it's swimming pools for me.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Swimming pools.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Yeah, Well, I'm Kendrick lamar Man.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
I didn't think that was a real good song when
I first heard it, but I knew Dre did it.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
It just wasn't a great song.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
But when it blew up, I was like, but this
is gonna blow it because it's Drey. And then I
was happy because it was, you know, a big hit
for Kendrick because I used to promote him back in
the days when he was still k DI.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
But that just wasn't I've heard. Because you have to realize, man,
I've heard, you know, stuff that you'll.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
Never hear, that will never probably come out because you know,
when Dre dies, it'd be more songs in the vaulted
when Prince died. But I've heard great songs. I've heard
thousands of songs from Dre.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Right.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
Drey is one of the most underrated producers ever. People say,
you mean I underrated? He gets so much credit.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
This dude is really like like Prince Man.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
He lives in the studio, living lives, eats and breeze.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
He's the whole idea keeps keeps uh, keeps a tight
a tight crew with them all around. Just he retains people,
retains the.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Way entertaining people, always listening to new breaks, new beats.
And when I heard swimming pools, I was like, it
wasn't even on my top twenty of what i've the radar,
it wasn't. I'm just being honest. I've heard so many
Dre beats and Dre's songs. It was like, that's not it,
but it's Dre. It's gonna blow up. And it blew up.

(39:29):
Because remember when Kendrick first came out, man, he wasn't
doing good on the East coast because you know, they
were they were so in my opinion, bullheaded and then
something uneducated. They just focused on the West coast and
they thought because it was Dre was gonna carry him.
They didn't understand radio radio on the East coast don't
care about you on the West coast, Right, you gotta work.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
The East coast doesn't work itself.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
You gotta work. The South does not work itself, brother,
trust me. And they found out the hard way, right,
that's true. So you know, just being honest, man, But
still kudos to him and blew up.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
But yeah, song.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
See, there's always such a thing as like Atlanta music,
New York music, and then LA music, and there's a
there's a way way heavy heavy line in between each
of those genres. Now not necessarily that I feel like
I feel like this artist right here, Ed Sheeron. I

(40:29):
like Ed Sheeron. I feel like he's a very talented guy.
He could poop on a sidewalk and call it gold, and.

Speaker 9 (40:37):
I think he's earned he's earned.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
That type of mentality. But I feel like there are
some songs where he just comes out and he's doing
that four chord like boom boom boom boom boom, you know,
popping out the same type of music, regardless if it's
if it sounds very very similar.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, even some of his earlier work.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
I think he's perfected that though.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Man, that's kind of like one of my favorite things
about it, you know, not just because I believe he's
so talented, but the way that he can do that,
Like he's mastered that. And like when you just pointed out,
it's not like it's rocket science what he's.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Doing, but it is not rocket science.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Not anybody.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
He's mastered that. And then he's got America. I call
him one of America's sweethearts. You know, America loves him.
And like you said that he goes outside and takes
a crap on a sidewalk, that's a hit, you know,
it's a piece of the It is.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Not to say that there's not a lot of effort
behind it, because there isn't. There's there comes a there
comes a point where you are a superstar. You've busted
your balls to get to the point that you have
in your musical career. And regardless if you were a producer,
a writer, you know, an artist in general, I think

(41:58):
once you've taken your licks, you've made you know, quite
a few hits, there's quite the expectation on you as
far as making another hit as quick as possible, because
the turnaround time in music is crazy crazy.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Well, I mean there used to be there, used to
there used to be right.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Once you get once, you get a lot of once
you get a lot of people already you know, following you,
they just want something new. After a little bit. I
wanted to get into, uh, the groundbreaking album of the Year,
Artist of the Year, Cowboy Carter Beyonce, your thoughts, Jay.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
You're not right for that one tonight? Am I gonna
lose all my sponsors tonight?

Speaker 7 (42:58):
I want to do comedy with you guys. Man, But
am I gonna I love you guys? But am I
gonna love? It's not groundbreaking?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Man? She just she did that. She did the work man.
Beyonce and I used to have the same.

Speaker 7 (43:14):
Branding manager back in the days when she came out
with her first perfume on Hollywood Boulevard, and when I
was not a Beyonce's fan because I went to school
for this shit. My mama wasn't a millionaire. She had
you know, she had a good job. But Beyoncely's daddy
had hits before she.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
He was already the man, right, So I'm gonna kick
you one hundred, you know.

Speaker 7 (43:36):
But when I saw that woman scheduled like her poops
are accounted for, Beyonce, You've been in the bathroom for
seventeen minutes, it says on your schedule fifteen. Like I
fell in love with her work ethics. I wasn't supposed
to see that. That's one of my biggest stories. I
was not supposed to see Beyonce's schedule. It fell out
that damn fast machine. I don't care what they say. No,

(43:58):
I didn't pull it out, and I picked it up.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
And what happened to the what happened to the other
children of Destiny's Child? Like everyone knew Beyonce was the
was the you know, the front right, Like, you know,
the the lead obvious, right, but what happened to the
other two?

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Beyonce took all the She's the one that I'm saying, man,
she she she benefited from such groundbreaking marketing.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Like when we were talking about ass shervice.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
You got to remember back then with Destiny Child, like
we're talking about real marketing budgets, we're talking about superstar budgets.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Beyonce benefited from that, like.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Million dollars just just spent out into advertising in general.
For you to make one hundred and one dollars.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Well, that's you were talking about, uh, star makers sort
of thing.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
That's a star that was made right there. She's very
talented all around, but the parents are very involved. And
you go from athletes to musicians to actors, these parents
are very much involved. They are right behind them, and
behind them is even older money too, so they're fueling

(45:20):
these kids. As much as as much as I'd like
to say that the entertainment industry, I've been doing acting, comedy,
acting for twenty years, plus comedy for fifteen years, ongoing, podcasting,
the whole thing, right, as much as I'd like to
say that the playing field is level, it is anything

(45:41):
new you need, you need if you got everything going
for you, there's still a chance you're gonna run out
of money.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
Yeah, it's a big chance you're gonna run out of money.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
But everything with everything going right, you can still run
out of money.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
That's why I'm not mad with any title.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
They want to give her, with any award, groundbreak whatever,
because man, she's earned it, right, And there's not just
she's earned it right, She's earned it. And then she's
always been able to keep herself. See a lot of artists, right,
they get there, they burn out, they go through their
crazy periods.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
They lose their momentum, they lose their scheme.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
You know, Beyonce man not only benefited from the money
was put behind.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
Her to parents.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
You know, you got a whole Like she was in
a great era, right, she was in a great era,
and she's still able to re event herself. She's still
able to do that the team that's around her. So
it's like me, I'm only judgmental only because I come
from that era and I've been able to see music

(46:48):
from then until now, and I'm just honest, right, Like,
if we started today, is she the most talented singer
most talented dancer. You just outwork everybody, right, you know,
there's a lot of kick ass dancers out there, right,
But she's outworked everybody, and she's still out working you.

(47:11):
And I don't know how she does it, be honest,
this last tour she did, I don't know how she
does it.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
The Yeah, the work ethic is definitely there. The support
system of husband jay Z, who's had many blueprints, many,
many blueprints, many you can you know, call it yellow
print on the next one, you know, just anything else

(47:38):
but the but the support system that you know that
that's a good safety net to fall back onto where
you know you're like, well, you know, maybe I can
have him come in on one of the albums, or
you know, a plethora of other people that are at
their beck and call just to be associated, just to

(47:58):
be around the idea in case they get called up,
and to be around that kind of fame. It's like
watching it's like watching people being pulled towards the sun.
You know, like you you want you want to be
around it, just because sometimes you get lifted up out
of nowhere. Justin Bieber says, some random girls first and

(48:19):
last name in a song and everyone finds her and
then makes her a millionaire out of nowhere. Her life changes.
Some other girl talks about how she you gotta spit
on that thing on a microphone? Haktua girl and a
fucking instant millionaire. Like, but I think she was. She
was the Hocta girl sensation was. She was just like

(48:40):
drunk girl, very you know, innocent, naive about it and
kind of fun about the situation too.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
And even even.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
When they were even when the press were coming at
her and they were just like, aren't you ashamed? Aren't
you everybody thinks you're a whore now? And she's like,
maybe I am. I don't know, that's cool. They were like, wow,
all right, she's fine with it.

Speaker 10 (49:02):
We just called her a horror.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You know, what does your dad think about you? I
bet your dad's a shame. She's like he's dead, Like
woa fuck? All right, well who raised you? Then she's like, oh,
you know, but the everything kind of backfired of you know,
trying to make the girl feel bad about something that
she said that went crazy viral, And that's the that's

(49:25):
the sense, that's that's the new that's the new age.
Now where you got that chick fil a girl. Now
she's she's she put out a song.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Did you see that?

Speaker 6 (49:35):
No, I haven't seen a song yet.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Now it's it's up for interpretation. I was able to
take good twenty seconds of it and say no. And
you know, I'll give you another example something I said
yes to bad Baby, right, oh wow, catch me outside, girl.
I listened to her stuff, and I'm like, you know,
this isn't bad, this is not awful, you know, doing

(49:59):
her thing cool first try. This is her first album
when she she was first doing the whole music thing,
so I'm like, you know what for somebody's first time
out there. The backbeat was definitely professionally done. The lyrics
were I would say her own because she was you know,
I would say either in character or just authentically herself

(50:23):
that way, which is fine. You know. She went on
the Doctor Phil Show because her mom was beating the
hell out of her and the crowd started booing her,
and she was like, Hey, you're all a bunch of hoes,
and I'm like, yeah, that's what you call a crowd
that's booing you after you were just you know, told
that you're the one getting your ass beat right, And
then they're all like, oh, you're an idiot, and then
doctor Phil's like oh wildly hoes and like oh great,

(50:47):
so you're the fucking doctor in the room and you're
focusing on that cool man.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
So the she's been, she's been through a little bit,
and now she's got you know, obvious the uh, the
same old problems will follow you if you don't solve them.
So now she has baby daddy issues going on, so
you know that behavior of not having a father in
the household and the broken atmosphere that does happen to

(51:13):
these she's been doing the only fans see she went
to HVAC school and everything you know for fans. So
people think that she didn't know how to do anything
with heating or air conditioning. You're you're dead wrong. Also
also porn in your duct work.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
No, but I mean the Chick fil a girl.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I don't even know like her her name really, but
she's known as the Chick fil a girl. She put
out she put out a song and I was like, okay,
you know, it's just yes, she really did put out
a song. She really did. She's trying to do that.
She's trying to go towards that avenue thinking I think
the effort put into the song was thinking that it

(52:03):
was about as much effort as she put into the
sketch of her chick fil a thing like, you know,
not a lot going on.

Speaker 7 (52:09):
She gets a good branding manager, man, don't let me
get a chance.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
You get a chance. Hey, you talked with your direction.
You could definitely because she's got a lot of followers already.
I think she just would need a lot of what
your experience, what your expertise would be on the situation,
because there's experience and expertise. You can have a lot
of experience fucking up, but expertise.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
You know, a lot of coins with her, man a
lot of coins with her.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Jez, you have a mild question, and now you could
answer this said, it's a wild question.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Wild wild.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
I said's mild, wild.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Wild question.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Now you could you could steer away from this or
you know, if you want to Nicki Minaj and Cardi B.
Have you seen their recent uh if you want to
call it beef, I think and.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
I just I just think right now going at each
other like that is like, of course cart is winning,
right now?

Speaker 6 (53:22):
What else does Nikky have to prove? Right me?

Speaker 7 (53:25):
I'm about man, give me a good record, right, damn
Cardi Atlantic Records of the album. You know, we still
don't have a rap album for thirty five years. That's
in the billboard. That's what I'm concerned about. But I
don't know, man, if it's you know, I'm I'm the
branding guy. I mean, if it sells more you know,
T shirts, if you get you a signature deal with

(53:48):
Cadillact and cool. But if it's not making any money
man and paying no bills, a.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Lot of it's a lot of jabbing back and forth.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
Just all of that.

Speaker 7 (54:00):
We selling something or we doing some We're getting some
TV shows out of this. Like if I'm the manager,
I'm like, man, shut up and get in the studio.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
But that's is there is?

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Well, you're your so marketing pr stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Is there a way to fix rapper six or is
he already a broken toy that you're wondering how the
hell did he even get up there to begin with?

Speaker 7 (54:26):
Once you are deemed as a rapper against a rapper
with all bloods or crips behind you, and you snitch
is no only thing you can make money off of?

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Now? Is where he makes money off of? Now? Being
a clown.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Wait a second, now, hold on, can't he do gospel?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
No? He does cameos?

Speaker 5 (54:46):
No, can he do gospel? Can he?

Speaker 6 (54:50):
Anybody can?

Speaker 7 (54:51):
Anybody can do anything today because you put enough money
behind it, anything will be acceptable. It's not like it
used to be where you had to go through the
g m w A, you had to go.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
To Bobby Jones. I don't get me started.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
Anybody can do anything today because everybody is selling theyself
for money today. So he could do anything, he would
have a better chance, you know, getting a great publicer.
I can see him actually writing a crap. I could
do it for him.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I mean, call me like, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
So the only reason I'm saying that is because he says,
you know what, I snitched and blah blah blah, but
you know what, I found God and he leans into
that idea.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
That's all he has left.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Man, that's always God, right, That's that's that's it. That's
because you'll get a movie out of the Everybody wants
to kill you, but if you found God, they're like, well,
you know, if God, fucking if he's we'll leave him alone.
I guess right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
Yeah, that's all he got left, man. Yeah, and that's
not just funny, your genius.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, and that's the best pitch
for you. Be like, hey, man, you this is all
you have left. And he'd be like, oh really, you know,
and get his tattoos removed. Maybe a cross right here,
maybe not a cross right there. Maybe that's a bad idea, right,
this was.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
The guy right now. Man, I got a whole bunch
of tattoos on his face. I just saw him now.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
He came across my feet tonight. But he's saying Jesus
Christ man and God man. And yeah, that's about all
six nine has left. Man is because he's he's toast
on mainstream.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
He better go gospel.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It's not a no.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
And by the way, je nobody.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
I don't really think too many people want to touch him,
you know, with with uh with.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Representation going on. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's just you know,
it's just an idea.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Damaged goods of uh.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
Damaged goods is definitely what he is.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Man.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
I don't know who would touch him right now. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I think I hit one his His lawyer had to
have been like a better call soul type you know
that showed up five up, like that showed up like
five or six days late. Where he's like, all right,
tell me you didn't tell them anything. No, I thought
you said tell them everything.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
No, damn it. I hate for Rising. Why why is
this connection bad?

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Oh? That was a good one, man that I thought
you had to tell them everything.

Speaker 10 (57:17):
No.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yeah, No, we're gonna We're gonna wrap.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Up this show, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Man, Freia.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
If you were to h to name one of your
particular uh production people, you know, as far as like
your your artist, uh, somebody to uh to kind of
fluff up a little bit, you know, for people to
hear here is your platform, sir, who would you recommend?

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Well, all three of my artists.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Man, I really think people are sleeping who've heard of him?

Speaker 6 (57:57):
If you are sleeping on my artist? Truth? A young
kid out of Compton I found named biz.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
People say, well, explaining him, I say, Travis Scott, Jimmy
Hendrix kids a savant you know when it comes to
the drums, when it comes to singing, rapping, and then
you know sassy Man found this kid out of Staten
Island man Ray Ray Scavo Man nominated for his second

(58:25):
Grammy Man with ghost Face Killer. This time I listened,
you know, because I listened to Beat you could be is.
I don't care about awards and accolades. That's cool, but
I'm into the music. So listening to how Ray puts
tracks together, I just really think there's those three that
I named, and it's a few other, but those are
in my top that when the world catches up to him,

(58:50):
you know, it's gonna be a phenomenon because all of
them got I mean, I've heard the albums, you know,
as far as from Trouf and Biz talking about ten
years of music in the vault.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
You know. Wow.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Now could you find them on Spotify? iHeartRadio like all
those fun streaming.

Speaker 7 (59:09):
Yeah, all anywhere you can find digital music, you can
find Truth tru F though not truth spelled the traditional way.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
And then BIZ Entertainment and then Ray Raysed Gobbo. Man.
You know, these are some very very talented.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
You know, Biz is a producer, Ray rais a producer,
and just you know Biz being a producer and an artist.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
That's why I always tell.

Speaker 7 (59:34):
People, man, just his ability to do records right and
put records together. I remember the first time I sat
down and listened to like five albums from him and
his family and they all were hit. It was crazy.
I've never experienced I've only experienced that one other time,
you know, and that was with one of two. It
was just on fire.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
I told him, like, you know, your you your own
worst enemy. You're such a genie. He's like Prince. He's
a perfectionist. And Drey don't want to put it out. No,
we all would love it. I'm not gonna put it out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Okay, that's sad. That's sad, man, it's a waste.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
It's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Some people are tough on themselves, you know. Yeah, that's
that's the That's the one thing when I'm doing that,
you know, that's how many specials coming out? That's what
I'm well, no, I'm going to do Christmas special nothing
but Christmas jokes. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Oh perfect, that'd be great. We're doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Yeah, nothing, but no.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
That's that's when whenever I see artists saying like, hey,
I got a Christmas album coming out with it's like, hey,
why is there a gun behind your head? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
No reason? I Wow, I wanted to do this. This
is what I wanted to do.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Wow, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
You remind me and my improv days. Man at the
the Improv with Frank Cohen. Man, you are very funny
that we're gonna have to talk about getting you out
here on one of them. I do comedy too, Man,
I produce comedy shows too, and I'm working with a
director and the director's guild who's done I don't know,
you know, you remember the big guy. He's done so

(01:01:13):
many comedy movies. I mean comedy specially. I can't even
name them.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
But we were just.

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
Sitting what's his name of glaciers, Yeah, Joey Medina's early stuff,
And we were just watching some of the early specials
and stop here and go back, and he was really
showing me as a producer how to really look at stuff, man.
And we got some specials we're gonna be working on
together next year.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
As I'm listening to you, I'm like, and this guy
is funny as heck.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
You know, like been at it for a while, Man,
normally just only on the East coast, but yeah, I'll
take a plane flight. Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
Yeah, you are amazing. Man.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
You guys, this has been one of my funniest shows man,
that I've done all year.

Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
Man, you guys are amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
I don't get to have fun much, man, most people,
most people today, man like rest in peace, Frank Coley.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
Man, but.

Speaker 7 (01:02:06):
Is this not the same anymore out here like it
used to be? Man, this used to be a lot
of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
Everybody's so damn serious out here in Hollywood, very serious,
too serious. Man, Let's have some fun, guys, Come on, now,
that's what we got into this for as children.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yeah, nothing wrong with being a little goofy for some oddrey,
you know, like it's.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
It's it gets like that out here too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Man. This one dude comes up me and I was
just we were doing this judgment for a for what
was it, the music competition?

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Guy comes up me, he says, he says, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
He's like he's like you guys the judges, And I'm like, well, yeah,
we're one one of the three. And then he's like,
well I have diabetes and I'm like, oh, well that's
that's terir. It was like yeah, and high blood pressure.
I'm like okay. He's like and depression. And I'm forty
seven years old. I said, well, hell of a statue
you got there, man, Do you have a baseball card
to go along with it. You know, he took such

(01:03:01):
offence to that, you know, because if you're going to
introduce yourself like that, like dude, just give me your card, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Like, whoa look at that, you know in front of
his card was wild Wilfrid Brimley.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Two thousand and seven right here, two thousand and seven,
right here he went, oh for four on suicides. Amazing,
this guy, give you a car.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
Oh man, it's fightny man. So he didn't like that
one too much.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
He said, what's that supposed to be? And I'm like,
you never you never had baseball cards when you were
a kid. He's like, no, we were poor. I'm like,
add that to the list.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
You can't buy our vote.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Oh man, oh man, yeah, man, that's been great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Well we're gonna end this show.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
If you were trying to check us out, Sparky, where
would you find us?

Speaker 10 (01:04:01):
You find us on every single major platform including iHeart, Spotify, Spreaker,
Deezer Cast, Box, Pocket Casts, the Oreos Book, Live video,
Google YouTube. Soon to be on the Roku channel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Working out big shout out to Jay Adams. Uh check them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Out wherever you may find your your lovely listening needs
as far as Pandora, iHeartRadio, love them all wherever you stream. Uh, Jay,
thank you very much for coming on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
We appreciate you. Guys, we appreciate you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Big shout out to Sassy. Of course, couldn't have done
it without her. She's been amazing. She's she's tooked us
off with quite a.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Few amazing interviews for the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Uh, you know you gotta shout her out.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Yeah, man, she's amazing. Nasty, man, she's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, not even like fun fun fast story about two
days ago, I tech our emailed her out and I
was like, I was like, oh shoot, said Sassy, we
we need a guest for this week. I tried to
emailing you a couple of days ago and you never
got back to me. And she's like, oh my god,
I'm so busy. I don't know what I'm doing. She's like,

(01:05:25):
I got somebody for you, don't worry about it, and
then like boom, she works like lightning, like.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
It makes it happen. She does.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
Man, Sassy makes it happen man, everybody. She's a blessing
man in disguise. I just fell into my life man,
but she makes it happen man.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
One of the man, my top my top three. In publicists.
I've worked with a lot of publicists here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I've worked with quite a few publicists myself, and it's
like there is nobody that is like on Not not
to say she's on top of everything, but she's she's
got her hands dabbled in absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Everything, which is great.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
He's off the chain. Man. So shout out to my girls,
Sassy Man. We love you straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yes, guys, we are the pod Guys Podcast, bringing it
to you as we do every Monday night, ten fifteen
Eastern Standard time. I'm Tony kas of course, we have
the ever loving Peacaso play.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Shout out Jay Adams. Thank you very much, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
We will catch you guys next Monday, ten to fifteen
Eastern Standard time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Catch you next week. Have a great night.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
Bye,