The Podguyz Podcast with writer/podcaster Dorothy O'Dell

We are The Podguyz Podcast with special guest Dorothy O'Dell. she is the creator of the unstoppable network. a group that helps veterans share there story. tune in share and enjoy

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why can't I see nothing there is or there? Yeah,
I push the button. We do the things.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
We are the podcast podcast. We're going to you as
we do every Monday ten fifteen Eastern Standard time.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm Tony Katz Devin Neary.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Here, of course, we have the ever lovin pecost So,
the creator of all things Kirby, the belvedere of the
bulbous figure, and the creator of cartoons, Les Barque.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And Sparky says hi. He's actually coming out with the
children's book next week. It's called Sparky Draws. So look
for that in your local Barnes and Noble or other
bookstores for the next week that they'll be open, because
they will surely be closed. I told Sparky do it
as an e book, but he's not that technology savvy. Anyways, Tony,

(00:53):
we do have a FOURD square right now, we do.
We do.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're joined today by the beautiful Dorothy Odell. No, we're
going with Odell.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
We're just going Withdell.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Were going with Odell.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Dorothy. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, thank you, this is the like please none of
this go live, but thanks for having me, guys. It
has been a pleasure already.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Nice well, we are very excited to have you.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Now you are the creator, the CEO, the the aristocrat
behind the Unstoppable Network, and you cannot describe it a little.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Bit for absolutely Okay, well I'll give you the cliff notes.
Four years ago I decided to write a book and
it's called The Overcomer Facing Challenges with Faith and Courage,
just my life story of overcoming bullying, little self esteem, trauma,
including the suicide and my uncle. And I thought, you know,
that's great. Everybody can write a book, which you can

(02:08):
get on Amazon, by the way, and so that's out there.
But you know, no one knows Windsor Ontario. No one
knows me, and so how in the world do I
get my name out there? Right? So I decided to
start my first show, which was called The Unstoppable Network,

(02:28):
where I interviewed I think over one hundred and eighty
two people on that and my life completely changed when
I met Greg Bickmell. He was a twenty eight year
Air Force veteran and he had attempted suicide three times
and he came on my show and told me that
twenty two veterans of David I am by suicide, that
of course is the US stat This gentleman's from Florida,

(02:52):
and I thought, there is no way in hell that
I was going to allow that on my watch. From
a military background, I've had my dad's baby brother served,
I had a great grandfather that served in the Navy,
and so you know, I did have that background. But

(03:15):
I also had, unfortunately, the suicide part, where my dad's
middle brother completed suicide on Christmas Day, and I knew
what it was like to be on this end and
just really, you know, the aftermath of when that happens.
There's no you know, there's no closure when that happens.

(03:36):
And I thought, if I could help one veteran to
save their life, or even one civilian for that matter,
then it would be all worth it. So four years later,
here we are. I had started two other shows. When
COVID hit. All the businesses in my town were closing, left,
right and center. So I thought, what better way than

(03:58):
to help our business owners, and I started the Power
half Hour Unstoppable business Owner. It was thirty minutes of
just every business owner from around the world being able
to come on and share their stories and how they
helped others, and of course, you know I thought, well,
I have to give my veterans and first responders their
own show, and that's when I started a journey in

(04:21):
boots from Trauma to Triumph with our co host, doctor
j Boyster. But then, as you all know, as a
one person team doing this for four years, I kind
of hit it well and I thought, you know, I
wanted to be the next Oprah and I still want
to give everyday people a chance and a platform to

(04:41):
be able to share their story. And I thought I created, actually,
just recently, I amalgamated it all and I created the
Unstoppable Network where veterans, survivors and trailblazers come together to
turn their pain into power and to share their mess
and turn their mess into an message. And so that
is now, that's now basically what we're what we're doing. Uh.

(05:07):
Doctor Royster will be a co host at least once
a month, if not more, and she's even going to
be on with civilians as well, not just our military.
So it's uh. I read the books ten X is
better than two X, and I asked chat TPT because

(05:29):
you know, that's the newest crazy and like, how can
I take that book and ten X my life and
so I said, hey, just do this, put it on
under one umbrella. And so that's what I did.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Now that sometimes work. I really I love the ambition.
You know, you gotta you got to get your name
out there to get the you know, the big picture
message out there for people. But the sometimes we can
get losses. Are you are you vetting the vets? I
mean like when they're doing their own thing, are you
making sure that they're that they know how to you know,
get them elves acquainted with the whole microphone to live

(06:03):
or pre recording sessions at all, or are you just
saying all right, guys, just all under the umbrella and go.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
You know, anybody who's willing to share their story, especially veteran,
does not want to share their story. They don't want kudos.
They just know that they don't They don't want the recognition.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
But they don't want the right. Normally they're yelled at
in boot cam like what do you want for that?
A piece of pop? You know, something something like that
you've seen in the movies sort of thing. I mean
a lot of these veterans do have like it starts
off with just one little thing and it doesn't go
mentioned at all, but I'll mention it.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
And you know, you can mention it to your veterans
and they might not want to talk about it because
they've been ignored enough about just a small little symptom
ringing in the ear. You get tonight as you get
the ringing in the ear and they're like, oh, what's that?
And you expected to go away can call pain and
most importantly, sleepless nights. You think that things are wrong.

(07:06):
It's not the ear doctor's problem, but the brain doctor
doesn't know how to solve it either. It's right on
the border, right on the borderline of every doctor saying
not my problem, and their big solution is just live
with it.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Normally this just doesn't affect one ear, it can affect
both ears. Tonight is it's uh, it's just one of
the you know, driving factors where they're like, you have
so many times was a three m got sued over
the whole ear plug thing and they're like, well, here's money.
It doesn't that solve it any you know, and it
really doesn't solve their underlying problem because now you have
sleepless nights to begin with, and you're like, oh, did

(07:45):
that happen? It did.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Three M got sued because they gave ear plugs to
soldiers and when they ship them over to ship them overseas,
they didn't cover the amount of decipels that they said
that they would cover, and people went and went deaf
if not hearing hearing problems or hearing loss in general.
And three M had said, because you're in the military,

(08:13):
kind of a kind of.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Block off, and yeah, yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't personally
sue because you were in the military. But it was
like a my bad scenario, like whoops a daisy. I
think they did give out some very small compensation back
just but nothing to write how I'm about.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Correct, So there was there was many follows through that.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
If that's the case, then maybe we should have some
of our veterans talk about on a show or something.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
But believe it or not, there's there's a lot and
not even necessarily even through three M, the manufacturer of
their glasses, the manufacturer of their earphones, the manufacturer of
their helmets, any type of protective devices, stuff like that,
there's been a numerous amount of not even say PPE,

(09:10):
but all of their protective personal equipment that they're supposed
to have they don't have, and and it's a huge thing,
especially in the military.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, one of the biggest lawsuits from military lawsuits is
Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement. Now, this one's really interesting. It
was a two hundred and six billion dollar lawsuit settled
in the nineteen nineties. More than forty states student big
tobacco companies for the health care costs linked to smoking.
They claimed these companies lied about the dangers and marketed

(09:41):
the kids, resulting two hundred and six billion dollars deal.
A lot of people that served were told that you know, hey,
here have the smokes, nothing bad is gonna happen to you,
absolutely clear as day, and put them in put them
in damage and range right there. It's it's it's tricky

(10:02):
when it comes to the hearing loss that we'll get
back to that the because it's a permanent I got
a little bit of glitch time going on here. Thank
you Microsoft for not only just making shoddy products for
the last thirty years, but proving Bill Gates is behind
it the whole time. Microsoft, go fuck yourself, okay with
that little plug right there. Now, getting back to the

(10:24):
hearing loss idea, Now, hearing is something of the you know,
of your senses that you're always with all the time.
So it can become very frustrating, especially when just daily activity,
you're trying to watch the TV, you hear a slight
ring in the ear. Honestly, you can ask any veteran
that's over the age of fifty, even the newer ones

(10:44):
that have suffered through a trauma, say something exploded in
front of them. Now they have their they still they're
still alive, but now they just have that ten it's
going on with that ringing and it caught. It's it's
some of the main roots of it's the first dialogue
brought up when they are calling the suicide hotline of

(11:05):
like I got this damn ringing in my ears been
documented several times, but once again nothing they can do.
So they try not to focus on that as being
one of the one of the symptoms of you know,
starting off to be to be pissed off about their situation,
you know, because anger, sadness, these are all all negativity,
all anything negative that comes towards towards the light of

(11:28):
day on now on their scenario, let alone, they lost friends,
if they were in combat, or you know, plain old PTSD, which.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
The same is a major factor of that. Yeah. Well,
yea as somebody who has hearing problems myself. I mean
I have double hearing aids and I have tonight this
once a while.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
God is that terrible.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I get that, and I did not realize that that's
what some of our This is the first time hearing
about that. I mean, every veteran that I've interviewed as
never mentioned that. But that's something that I'll look into
because I know I deal a lot. I deal with
the mental health side of.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Things, right, and that's a huge thing too. Yeah, well,
not to say that that's a that's a huge that's
a huge money maker for not only the the uh
you know, the government itself, but for for soldiers that
just don't want to come forward because they know that

(12:29):
they're going to get sectionated kind of don't come forward.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, there's very there's very little incentive. It's it's a
very it's a non friendly environment because mental health has
meant if you're pro mental health, then you're you're Sometimes
it comes down to being pro big pharma because that's
their solution to a majority of these situations where they say, hey,

(12:56):
you know we came out with this that will help
with that. And even the way that they're testing these
psychodronic medications out are on mice behavioral whys and all
that night stuff. And it's because that ninety seven percent
or something very close to one hundred ninet even seven
percent of a mouse's brain activity is close to our

(13:20):
brain activity. And that's a three percent gap right there.
But here's a fun fact. There is less than a
half a percent difference between a cucumber and water, so
and they're not the same fucking thing at all, like,
not even close. So when it comes down to treating
people like mice or in these blind studies, these placebo
studies where even if it's policed by the people making it,

(13:44):
they're not trying to police themselves where they're not going
to make a profit. So it turns into it kind
of turns into what it started as just a just
a money making scheme where they're you know, you might
dole down one of the one of the emotions so
that way you don't see it. That does not mean

(14:04):
that that emotion has been has had any closure point,
has had any actual you know release, It's just been muted.
You know, I can mute the TV and say it's
not on, and a blind person would agree with me,
but it's still technically on, if that makes any sense
metaphorically speaking.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Dorothy, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now there's there's also been another lawsuit out in I
believe it was twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six
last year, this year, this year coming twenty five and
SAR twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. It was about
cancer for in military professionals as well, especially for firefighters,

(14:48):
because they used a some sort of firefighting foam that
caused cancer for most of these firefighters as well. There
was a huge, huge settlement that went out for those
particular firefighters also.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
But what about Agent orange poisoning. It's the same thing, like,
oh yeah, you know, there's been several deaths that I
know once.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now, once you sign up for the military, uh, they
have you sign a piece of paper that says you
cannot sue the military. Yeah, so you have so much
clearance in between when you're uh discharged from the military service.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
There was there was a lot of there's a lot
of violation. I know, I know a friend of mine,
his dad has the agent Agent origin. There's been a
just as long as you know, like you can't sue
to a point because there's there's just plain old negligence
that can't be ignored by the military. You don't want

(15:50):
if you're the military, you don't want as recruiters to
have such a bad reputation where they are now like, hey,
by the way, you can't sue. It's like, well, wait
a second, didn't you do one, two, three, four, five,
six seven. They're like, oh yeah, but uh not anymore.
We promise it turns into you know that dude that
always ends up with a new girlfriend and the girlfriend
the old one always as a black eye sort of thing.

(16:13):
But more Dorothy, more about the podcast. What is your
most recent win? What is your most recent emotional win
that that you can count, that you can check off
and you can say, Okay, you know we did something,
we did something good. N good question.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's a good question. Well that is you know, with
under four over four hundred interviews under my belt, I
would have to say getting the gaining the respect of
my military and veterans has been the highlight of my career.
I mean, they don't they do not how shall I

(16:56):
say this, They don't trust easily, and civilians are not
the number on right, And so when a veteran says
to you, you know, I've got your six to me,
that was the best feeling in the world. Like And
I've had several several good days, and I've interviewed, you know, supermodels,
I've interviewed a lot of different people, but i have

(17:18):
to say definitely my military, military and veterans are are
my number one.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
All right, So we need names and phone numbers of
all of the supermodels that you have ever interviewed.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Social Security numbers be great too. I mean, you
know others man named just any account activity as well.
You know, this is the Internet, you can trust it.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
And we were talking sports earlier. I mean I interviewed
Joe Spurley, who was the guy that with baseball. You know,
he started he was in charge of getting every Major
League baseball up and running and then you know, training

(18:01):
training the baseball players as well. Then he got into
a major car accident and uh, you know, had to
put things on hold for a while. But he's having
a movie shortly or they're they're making it called Curveballs,
So you know, the accident threw a curveball into his career,
and so the here he is.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So isn't a new movie called Overcoming Curveballs? Or was
that his book written?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
No? That was he I don't think he's got the
book out yet, but he there is a movie coming
out called Curveballs, which it has it's it's not started yet,
but it will.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Be out because it does pop up here on Google's Yeah,
right off the rip, I put in Joe Spurley Baseball,
and you are the first one that pops up, and
says in today's episode, Dorothy Odell, not Graham but Odell, Okay,
sits down with Joe Spurley, a true trailblazer minor league baseball.
Yours is the first to pop up. So you're doing

(18:58):
something right, Dorothy. How should you pay the Google to
do that? Hey, listen to the Google.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I didn't speak to Google. But this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
This guy he.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Funny enough. I don't know how he found my website,
Unstoppable Overcomers website, and he goes, you know, I just
seen Unstoppable Overcomers. He goes, you know, there's got to
be something towards that. So this guy sent me a
message and say, hey, I want to be on your show,
and on and on and on. This guy calls me weekly,
leaves me a voicemail ever since we did They did

(19:34):
the show about a month ago or something like that.
And so he's trying to get me tickets to the
Detroit Tigger's game. So we'll see what happens there.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
But yeah, Forthy, you strike me as a person that
really picks up and tries to fight battles that the
majority of everybody think that have already been won. But
they have. And I see a ribbon in the background there.
It's his lung cancer awareness, am I right now? Lung cancer,
by the way, like a lot of cancers, very deadly, okay,

(20:03):
and not just for smokers. This is why it gets
ignored a lot of the time, if not all the time,
where they say lung cancer, well, you should have just
not smoked. What's wrong with you? You know you can
get lung cancer just by a living and never smoking.
We in Pennsylvania we have a microscopic coal dust still
floating around in the air. There's no way to get

(20:26):
rid of it at all. And just when you think
you're going to we could the what we have down
south from us in Middle Pennsylvania. We have a little
town called Centrillia where people decided to throw their garbage
into the cracks and crevices, and when the garbage got
too high, they said, let's just burn the garbage and
stomp it down. A little bit. In between of that

(20:47):
garbage and the crevices were miles and miles full of
coal that just burned forever. The whole town is technically
still on fire. On Dorothy EPA, the dep got together
and they said, you know what, let's just try to
pay these people some money for their houses, get them
out of here. And you know how people are? They said,

(21:08):
how dare you? This check isn't even closer though enough.
This is twelve thousand dollars in the nineteen seventies, twelve
thousand dollars is kind of like one hundred and twenty
thousand nowadays. So if somebody came to your burning fucking
house and gave you one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
to get the fuck out and go to a different town,
normally you would think, hey, let's do this. But instead

(21:29):
they made a documentary called this bullshit twelve thousand dollars basically,
and they're like I'd rather sit in my burning house
and burning town than cash this check. And the government
was like, okay, so next year we're gonna give you.
We're gonna offer you a check for less money because
the people that take this, they're gonna get the more money.

(21:50):
And no one believes the government at all ever, especially
in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Think I'd like to thank Kevin at the roundtable discussion
in Centralia. They're all sitting around the e old table,
and it's got to.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Be a round table. It's got to be a round table.
I was thinking. I was thinking of you know, King
Arthur times, like the town is uncleire. Well we should
stop it with more garbage.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Garbage, which is more garbage?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Can we take wet garbage and put it on top?
Of course we can. What about a damp rag, a tamp.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Rag, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
You guys are too much.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Grease oil. Let's throw it all down.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oil is why isn't it working?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Anyways? Do you guys know Chris Draft. He's a snapper
for I think he was the Cardinals. Anyways, I interviewed
him when I was in Arizona two years ago. We
my husband and I decided to take the show on
the road, well not really. My business partner and I
decided to take the show on the road. At my husband,

(23:00):
let's go, You're coming with us.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
We should take the show on the road.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And he said, all right, I'll follow.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyhow, well there was some good stuff
from there. We ended up going the PGA tour, so
the cool. So anyways, so Chris Draffer, we we went
to uh, what you know, Roman Gabriel the Third. He
was a quarterback for the Oakland Raiders once upon a time.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
The early eighties, right there.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, so anyway, so Roman was on my show. He
came in and shared what he was doing with oh
the sold Out Youth Foundation, saying no to fentanyl. So anyways,
we decided that we were taking the show on the road.
We were going to go, we were going to go
uh what do you call it? Volunteer at his gala

(23:50):
and so Chris Draffer Dreaper or Chris Draft, Chris Draft,
Chris Christraft was there. I interviewed Chris Draft. He was
a snapper for since for the Corners, I believe. Anyways,
his wife died of lung cancer and so when he
when I told him that my dad died of cancer,
and it was lung cancer that he started out with

(24:11):
and then ultimately I believe it was a liver that
got him. But anyways, so Chris has started this organization.
His first wife ended up getting lung cancer and so
they started the White Ribbon Project. That's what it is.
And so anyways this if you google it, you'll find

(24:32):
everything about this project. And so the organization makes these
white ribbons. They make them out of love. He stressed
that one hundred percent, and so he actually signed the back.
I had his girlfriend go to the car get me
one of those ribbons, and I sat there and I
had interviewed him just you know, voute his career and

(24:54):
you know, losing his wife and things like that. So
that's where that white ribbon came from, after I told
them my dad passed away with cancer. To answer your.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Question on this show, I think, yeah, no, Dorothy. Dorothy
is doing a lot of a lot of wonderful things
right now. Now that we can't say that about all
of our guests. You know, some of our guests are
doing just plain old terrible things constantly. And what I
we only find out, you know, you go to yeah, yeah,
you go to there go fund me and it's like,

(25:28):
are you funding hesbla on this, go fundy this?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know? Yeah, so you telling me I need to
set it up. I go fund me account?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yes? Why not? A kickstarter program works like Wonders, even
if you're throwing even if you're just throwing it out
there for people to uh to buy an episode, buy
a book or you know, or anything like that. Kickstarters
do work, am I right, Tony? They do?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
They do.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Actually, have you looked into kickstarter programs?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I would look at looking to go fund me before
I go into Kickstarter.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'd kickstart at GoFundMe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
You gold just go to my website and just go,
you know, purchase the package for to sponsor a show.
How about that?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
There you go purchase.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
That's right. You just go to unstoppable overcommerce dot com
and go pick one that suits your needs and you know,
or you can come to our annual golf tournament. I
mean each year it gets bigger and better. This year
there's a ten thousand dollars prize for a hole in
one if you're an amateur. That only can an amateur,

(26:36):
So come on down. It is an international event. I
do have people from Illinois and Indiana coming down and uh, and.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
We're it's it's located out by the way.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So the tournament itself is in Tilbury, Ontario at the
Tilbury Golf Club. Uh, it's only four hundred Canadian guys.
Four hundred Canadian gets you a four sam that gets
you eighteen holes of golf, that gives you your kurt,
that gives you your meal, that gives you one door
price ticket. Right like, seriously, that's a really a great deal.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's a really great deal.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
And a chance to win.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
A chance to get to meet Dorothy but and a chance.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
To get to meet me. I'll even have you can
even have your picture taken with me. How's that?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Will you have any Will you have any swag for
sale there? Will you have any swag like T shirts,
hats promoting the podcast for you? For you there? Will
you have that there? For the people are Now.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Well, that's something if I can hurry up and get
it together, I could for them.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Now you're not obviously you're not gonna be given this
ship out obviously, you know, have them pay for it,
give them a card. Go to a website full of merchandise.
All the merchandise I'm sure goes towards your podcast, which is,
by the way, creating a support foundation and awareness for
other veterans that have depression and suicide. By the way, Dorothy,

(27:58):
if you do get or five different women that do
or used to work at Denny's, you might have Tiger
Woods show up for that kind of stuff too. It's
just it's a lower It's it's tiger Woods only only
bait is.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Now, don't tell us that you like Tiger Woods too,
because well you have a story for you.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I am neutral with Tiger Woods. My mother loved tiger
My dad did not, and so my dad liked Phil Michols.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Nicholson, Phil Michelson. Yeah, the left handed, the left handed
dandy right there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
And I like Sergio. You know he had to regroup
how many times before that?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I like I like David Love. I like Davis Love
the third only because he's got this snarky arrogance to
him that he doesn't look like he would sign anybody's autograph,
you know, where you know, you get your kid out there,
like hey Sergio or hey Davis Love, could you sign
my kids autography? He's like, don't talk to me. And
then you could say, see, don't bother people. I told you,

(29:05):
you know, and then off you go the Phil Mickelson crowd.
I don't know how Phil Micholson got so much credit
for coming in second place all the time, but I
guess Ford really thought that was a great idea for
It's like, we do that all the time, and they're like, well,
sometimes we come in second, top ten, we come in

(29:28):
second on recalls, but that's regardless to the fact that
it's kind of strange, how that's a real Oh no no.
I literally just bashed them for coming in second for
most recalls, you know, recalls on their vehicles. I have
owned a Ford tourst before. I'm more of a Honda
guy right now. I love Honda's I can't break this car.

(29:50):
I love it to death. I had a Chevy Lumina before.
Love that Chevy Lumina. The one car company that I
have a bone to pick with every time is Dodge. Dodge.
Stop making cars, you're not doing it right. Trucks as well.
Stop making trucks.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well you realize that the Dodge, I think it's the
minivan is made here breaton Windsor right where I live.
So it's just around the corner from me.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh, I don't know what they're doing with the steering
wheel size, but when it's the size of a goddamn
go cart, it doesn't feel right. You know, have you
ever driven? Dude? They got that, they got that hemy size.
You know, I'm right too, they got that hemy sized engine,
the undersized bed, and then a steering wheel the size
of my cell phone. I'm like, what am I doing here?
Am I fucking playing Mario Kart with this goddamn thing?

(30:40):
It's so weird. I had a Dodge Neon broke my heart,
by the way. The Dodge Neon. If you're going up
a hill and there's so much amount of humidity, there's
something called vapor lock that happens to the engine. This
was a non recallable act. Vapor lock would happen where
the whole engine shuts off, The whole goddamn thing shuts off.
I'm like, I took it down to my mechanic and said, dude,

(31:01):
everything's fine, and he says, wait, where are you going uphill?
He explained the whole thing, and we played by play
and I'm like, Wow, what a piece of shit? Who
would put a product out like this people could die.
They're like, He's like, that's that's Dodge. They don't really care.
It normally goes when you're talking about crack real Dodge.
I really don't. Top tier companies like Toyota and Honda,

(31:24):
they they kind of test their products out there. Like
Toyota's saying.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Out in the top five truck category.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I mean maybe they're fifth. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Manula truck whatever, it's called the cyber truck.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
The cyber truck. O Listen, I've never driven one. I
know someone who owns one, and you know, they just
take it off for weekends sort of thing. I think
that people get them because it's new. It's a status
symbol and great on gats. Right here in Pennsylvania, we
now have something new to screw over people that have

(32:00):
electric cars. It's called the usery fee. Have you heard
of this, Dorothy? The usery fee is you know, you're
buy an electric car, You're like, all the money I'm
going to save on not buying gasoline. Sure, I still
need to charge it and I'll be spending money in electricity,
but in the long run, as a consumer, I'm doing
the right thing. Well, now, usery fee if you use

(32:21):
the road, they're going to charge you a tax on
your odometer from one to the next. If you are
an electric car owner here in Pennsylvania, it is a
it's a big scum. It's a it's a big scumbag bill,
is what it turns into. You know, Like, what are
you doing? I just looked it up and I'm like,
why why would anyone want this? Gasoline owners are like, yeah,

(32:43):
make them pay like the rest of us. Dude, what
are you talking about. You don't like paying the gas,
you don't like paying all that shit. But just because
somebody else invested a little bit more money into a
car and wanted to save it, you know, save themselves
some money, it's it's it's motorists animosity towards each other,

(33:05):
and politicians lawmakers in the area took full advantage of
the emotions running through it, and they're like, hey, guys,
we're going to get those fuckers you don't like and
they're not going to vote for us anyway, So who cares.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Joshua mention the fact that a new battery is what
twenty thousand dollars for.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Those that is actually not true. That is a twenty
thousand dollars for GMGM has been the example used because
it's the worst example to use intentionally. The people that
are out there doing this are oil companies. Okay, So
that is the most expensive battery including labor, twenty two
thousand dollars. That way they can bring out the old
excuse saying, yah, you'd have to basically buy a new car.

(33:44):
How's that help in the environment and electric car owners?
I'm not one, but they're not caring about the environment.
They're caring about not paying for the high price of
gasoline and evening out that whole situation over there in Okay,
So there is something called the inne bat over it
is a warrantied company in Europe. Then there is a

(34:06):
charge point device, and then there is plug power batteries.
Plug power carries a lifetime warranty on it. If your
plug power battery goes out, they give you a brand
new one, no charge. That's how that's how much they
have invested into the idea of electric cars in the
battery and all that nice stuff. Tesla has a warranty

(34:28):
on their battery for ten years and then you know,
you can get it replaced with I think the cost
years later.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
That's from the fucker will you.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Know it exactly here, here's how much of a scam
that not necessarily the state of Pennsylvania is. But the
state of Pennsylvania ranks number three in the country as
far as the highest gas tax that you can pay
per state in the United States of America. It's at
fifty eight point seven cents per gallon. So a quarter

(35:05):
of whatever you're paying right now, let's say it at
three dollars three dollars a gallon, fifty eight point seven
cents of that gallon goes to the state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah. Now, now the state of Pennsylvania is the They
kind of count that as a tourist fee too, because
through out Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, we are
the keystone of travel throughout those whole ideas. You get
the voters on your side when they say, hey, voters
and that live here in Pennsylvania, who do you hate
the most? And they're like, ah, anyone that's not from here,

(35:41):
that's for sure. And they're like, great, we'll fix them.
It's like okay, good, what are you gonna do? And
then you'll see turns into a higher tax on gasoline
by saying, you see, we're taking their money by them
even driving through our estate. And they was like, well, yeah,
that's good and everything, but can we not pay it? Nah,
you gotta get fuck too sort of thing. Sparky's got

(36:04):
something there in the big board. Dorothy Sparky is our
live artist. Sometimes he draws what he sees. Sometimes he
draws where he's been, or he drew draws what we've
been talking about. Sparky, flip around that beautiful big board
for us, won't you drops oil drops grease everywhere? Oh?

(36:25):
In the Dodge Gode drops oil drops grease everywhere. Oh no,
the cough of death again. Dodge Dodge actually said to
themselves one day, Diamond Chrystli, they said, hey, we're pretty
much known for making terrible cars, Fiat. Aren't you known

(36:49):
for making terrible cars? And they said absolutely. Why what
do you want to do? You remember the old Fiat
they nicknamed it to fix it again, Tony the yacht,
tell me, oh yeah, both my uncle and oh jeez yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
The Fiat in general was was twisted around as far
as it's manufacturing and the way that they made their
cars in order to make them a high priced crap car.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Believe it or not. Yeah, the first So they all
got together, they said, hey, let's let's keep this going.
Let's just keep it going. Let's all get together, you know,
and try to consolidate our losses and you know, uh
not claim bankruptcy officially. We got some of that twenty

(37:46):
eleven money going on from the bailout, which every taxpayer
here in America when the I'm sure you're aware of
what happened here in America to around twenty ten in
that time Dorothy with the car companies, and we don't
have any money, and it's like, wow, you guys suck
at this, don't you guys right.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Across the river in good old Detroit, the homeless capital
of the of the country right now.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I I always say that that that that the car
manufacturing companies are linked in a way to people that
have had their tuition rates raised exponentially throughout the years.
And I can give you an example. You know, you
go to college, normally you would go to college. After
you graduate college, you have one or two major purposes

(38:37):
once you get that job, right, you got the house
or a brand new car or a used car or
whatever job you might have. Right, banks recognized that you
didn't have any prior debt because you know, you worked
your way through college and you were actually able to
then once the bank was open. And when I say that,

(38:58):
I mean to every where. They said, let's make sure
everybody has the chance to get these high interest loans.
I mean the opportunity to go to college at a
low or even a higher tuition. You know, let's just
pump those numbers up sort of thing. Let's have the
American consumer become educated in how much they need college

(39:19):
to continue, and let's monopolize the middle class this way
to the point where the car manufacturing companies couldn't even
make it past twelve years of the introduction of everybody
gets to go to college and have a lot of
debt because at that time, now you're like, well, why
would I buy a car? It's five dollars a gallon
for gas. That's crazy. I mean, I'd better be better

(39:40):
off just taking the bus, or not qualifying for the loan,
or realizing that they now have to live in their
car because an apartment and a car are too much
to include with their now gollged wages from a tuition.
Right and all that nice stuff. Now, Dorothy, you might
know more even about how they g I bill has

(40:01):
been picked apart throughout the years. Are you familiar with
that or no?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
No, the g I get out of the news and
I don't really stay in. Its depressing and I yeah,
you know, that's just not something that I am interested.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
The g I bill they used to be good for
all colleges. You take it, you're good to go. Then
they're like, man, everyone's taken taking that opportunity. So then
they cut that in half of how many colleges you
can actually go to and played mess around time with
the benefits that was once given to the military veterans

(40:40):
G bill.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
That's yeah, that isn't Is that just strictly for a
military Yeah, okay, that's what I thought, because I have
one veteran right now that's using his g I bill.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Nice. Which college is the attending I don't know. Somewhere
in Florida, Florida much damn alligators and method all Florida
Disney alligators meth.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
As soon as you said that was something clicked in
my brain. Wait, I've heard that. I've heard that term somewhere.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Doing how long? How long do your podcast normally last
how long do you normally go on for?

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Generally about forty five minutes to.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
An hour forty five doing it all?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Right? Yeah, I've had one guy. Oh my god, two
freaking hours later, we finally had to say, okay, enough,
got to call it quits. I gotta call it quits.
I mean, it was an amazing, amazing thing. But you
could he's he was a talker, and he just wanted
to make sure his story got told.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
And so uh yeah, never never start, never start a question.
And sometimes sometimes Tony does this and kind of regrets
it a little bit. Okay, guys, well start from the beginning,
and they they will they like I was was when
I was.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
A young we lad.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Remember when we went to school with snow up to
our ass and we walked ten miles oh school. You know,
of course that was my story.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
So yeah, we wished, we wished to get kidnapped so
we could have a ride halfway there. Then we'd have
a car and a corpse because we'd kill the pedophile dude.
Continue go on, old people's, old people, glorified stories. You
know that we were taught out of fish by our

(42:34):
math teacher who ran after my mother with the car
one day. It's a damn that dementia's coming in tough,
wasn't it, Dorothy.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I do have to I do have to bring up Unstoppable.
Of course, overcomers. Has there been a story that you
have taken so personally from one of your interviewees that
really put the pump the brakes on the show a

(43:01):
little bit and kind of hit close to home?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
That's all we do here. All we do only good questions.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
The bad ones, well we're going to edit those up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
There, I would say, there's there's a couple that have
hit close to home. But I mean I just ran
with it. Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I remember Overcoming, You've got.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
All this, I've got all of that. I mean, I cancer.
I you know, I used to have the mentality that
the show must go on. The night my dad died,
I ran home, ran home. It was an hour drive,
and I said to my mom, I'm like, you know,
if anything happens, call me and I'll come back. I
just number one, I need to break in. Number two,

(43:54):
the show has to go on, right And so thank
god I had like she wasn't a co host, but
like a roving reporter. That she would come on you
the last fifteen minutes of the show, and I said
to her, you know what, can you just take over
for tonight because I just I'll be here in the background,
but I just don't know if if I can do it.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
And I'm going to do that every day.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Well, I mean, Dorothy, I just got a touch on
the show must go on theory. The person that said
the show must go on was giving the actor or
a little you know, children actors, actors drugs because they'd cry,
and you know, the parents would say, I don't think
my child can go on there. They seem to be
in pain. But from the false teeth at the origin

(44:42):
and all of that, the origin of the show must
go on, it was it was never it was never
a it's not a happy story. So they would just
drug up the kids and say, ah, the show must
go on. That's what we say here in show biz.
And the parents would say, I guess that that sounds good.
That sounds it's it's not a mentally good thing to do,

(45:03):
though for yourself it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah, well, and it's funny because after that, I just like,
you know, we'll put a repeat on if it has
to and I think I don't know about you, but
up until about five years ago, self care was not
even all my vocabulary or in my vocabulary as somebody

(45:25):
his historically would take care of everybody else, put everybody first,
not take care of Dorothy at all, you know, until
I take care of Dorothy, right, And so that's why
you know, I decided instead of three shows to go
down to one. And uh, you know, if the guest

(45:46):
cancels up the last minute, and you know, I can't
get a replacement and I'm not prepared, you know, I'm
not going to put a half as show out, so
I'll put a replay up or.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You know, I think I think mentally, not even necessarily
even just for me. But I'm I'm the original, the
original member and organizer of the show. So when I
first started out, it was more of a way to.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Clear my mind and.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Clear my chest of uh of things that are happening
out in the world. And I feel like everybody needs
a platform and having that platform.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Is so mentally cleansing.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
And regardless if you have cat collars and you know
people who are saying, hey, you can't do this, you
most certainly can you Everybody has a platform, and regardless
if you're starting a new podcast, if you have an
old podcast, excuse me, there is no reason not to

(46:53):
speak your mind. And I feel like that's very very
for the soul, the mind, the body, and the soul
all together.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Tony. Actually, the older episodes, I've gone through it before
I was before I was a part of the show, Dorothy.
The older episodes, Tony had on a couple of a
couple of his friends, and the one thing I noticed
was that Tony while making a point and while you know,
making banter, see, we kind of go well together because

(47:29):
we give each other enough room to explore, to to
just you know, chat around and play fuck around time
with whatever subject we want. These guys that he was
with before, not so much. Everyone was kind of in
it for themselves. And I'm sure if you've worked with
people that are really just instead of being a part
of the show, they want everyone wants to have a

(47:51):
star power too. And I don't get me wrong, I've
gone on some crazy rants here and Tony's gone some
crazy rants, my favorite one being the Wendy's frant. We
had a person on here that had been just gotten
out of prison and written a book after ten years
in prison. So Tony starts off the show about his
h his struggles at the Wendy's drive through, because you know,

(48:13):
holy shit, they dropped his straw and dropped his lid,
and you know, it's just something he.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Had to drop my lid on the floor.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Now we get we get into the uh, you know,
into the nitty gritty of it, and dude's going on
about all the stuff that he had to go through
in prison. I said, oh, hold on there, job, Tony.
Didn't you have a tough day Wendy's too, you know,
just just as a callback sort of situation.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
But everybody has their struggles, and that's the that's the
fact of it.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Some people have minor struggles, such as myself. Some people
have major struggles, you know, such as other people.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, and Dorothy. When you hear about you know,
when you when you're going one on one in an
interview with with the veteran who's been through the worst
of it or one that hasn't really been through the
worst of it, you don't really want to, you know,
mention somebody who has been through wors like well, at
least you don't lose your fucking arms or anything like
that right where, you know, because in their heads they

(49:10):
have gone through such a bad time that turmoil. Yeah,
everyone else's situation really doesn't matter. And I can't blame
anyone forever feeling that way because you're supposed to be
allowed to feel that way because it's your life, and
everyone else who is sometimes trying to help hurts worse

(49:34):
in those situations where they say, oh, you know, you
do you should just uh, you know, go to group therapy.
And in group therapy, you know, sometimes it will help,
but sometimes it'll bring out the you know, you go
to one bad session, you say to yourself, Wow, they're
they're they're they're in bad shape. I'm I'm not, And

(49:54):
that might be half true and half not true. But
it's just you're opening up your doing right now as
you're opening up a whole platform, one on one where
not only are they acknowledged, but they know that a
message is out there and if other veterans are also
watching along with them. They're not forced to go into
a group therapy. They get to listen at their own leisure.

(50:16):
There's no commercial interruption at all, and if they want
to turn it off, they could turn it off, but
if they want to continue to listen and they could
say oh okay, they might not feel so alone. Where
they just say okay, at least it's happening to somebody else.
There's some kind of community along with the whole situation.
And I commend you for that all around.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Thank you. Yeah, it's funny that you said that. So
a couple of different things. I started it because I
wanted to give people number one, hope and number two,
make sure that they weren't alone in their circumstances. When
you're going through the deep dirt holes of hell or depression,
you feel completely isolated and alone. And so that's originally

(50:58):
why I started the show, to give people that platform
and I've had Back in the early days of the
Journey in Boots, we were interviewing a couple of firefighters
that were actually at Ground zero. Now, as somebody who
has actually been to Ground zero when I got there

(51:18):
last year or the year before, no, the year before,
there is something if you've never been, it's a place
that you have to go. I don't know if it
was because I have interviewed the men and women that
have been there, but I felt the people's presence that
died there during those weeks, and it was just I

(51:43):
can't describe it. It's just you have to go and
experience it if you've never been, and so interviewing those
men and women that have actually been there that you know,
we're digging their buddies out of the rubble, and just
I'm getting goosebumps now as I think about it, and
just hearing their story of what had transpired during that week, month,

(52:07):
however long that they were there, you know, digging people out.
It's I can't even imagine. And it's funny because as
I'm sitting here and I'm visualizing everything, I can smell
the smoke and smell bodies that were in that And

(52:30):
you know, I wouldn't have never have had that if
I would hadn't been there and experienced it or interviewed
these men and women that have been here.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
So yeah, it's it's something that at the moment they
can't be in touch with their emotions about it. You
have to detach yourself from the whole situation. When in
the thick of depression as well, I think it's important
to allow people to go through that, you know, alone

(53:01):
for moments at a time, because you have to figure
some stuff out for yourself if you're not. You know,
I've I've been through it. I've been alcohol free for
about six and a half years now. And it's not
a price, you know, it's just it's got it's got
a lot to do with you know, you're a different

(53:23):
person when you're when you're on alcohol, you're a different person.
You know, You've got different versions of yourself. And uh,
you know, it's all control thing to a degree. But
depression does happen, and uh, you know, there's something to
be said to allow allow people to to just be
depressed because the the experience that they need to have

(53:47):
through life with themselves mentally also involves the bad. It
all can't be a pile of rowss. We have to
somehow get pushed through the worst of the worst now
to be geting friends out of the rubble and bone
and the and all that all that terrible uh uh

(54:07):
shit with with nine to eleven, it's it's it's one
of the worst experiences. So for them to look at
it nothing more as just a job and then to
realize they have the rest of their day to kind
of process it, but then push it off to the
side because that doesn't take a day. You won't sleep.
You need to sleep, you know, and then the next

(54:28):
day you get up and you do your thing. But
even then you don't want to really get into it
too too much. These uh men and women, they have
to look at it nothing more as a job at
the beginning and the end of the day. But that
goes against all human nature. You can't just look at

(54:49):
something like going in to an area and then being
paid in paper funny notes just so that way we
can strive for indoor living and food. Again, you know,
there's there's a deeper connection that we all have to
each other than just the bare necessities. And then maybe
you get a fucking December to remember from Lexus. By
the way, Lexus not a not a sponsor, could be

(55:10):
a sponsor though definitely not Dodge anyways. The uh, it's
it's just and that's just my opinion, you know, like
some other people are gonna say, Kevin's not a doctor,
how dare you? And then another person would say to
it into it dogs ball and you watch the dog
won't eat the facts eat. It's my best RFK right there.

(55:35):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Also not a doctor. Also not a doctor. But uh,
but that's that's fine, That's that's all good, Tony. If
you have anything to add to that idea, I do not.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
We are going to wrap up this show, however, we
are kind of at the end of our time, Dorothy.
If people are going to get in touch with you,
how would they do it?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Well, definitely go to my social media Dorothy Grandma Bell
on LinkedIn or Facebook, it's the same thing. Or our
website Unstoppable oovercomerce dot com. Go check out our show.
Go to the our YouTube channel on the Unstoppable network, subscribe,
share with all your friends and Kevin, there's one thing

(56:20):
I wanted to to mention. A lot of the vegters
that come on to my show, I you know, are
have done some healing. Whether that be they went to
Center Motus, which is doctor Janelle Royster. She is a therapist,
So whether they did go through her protocols or god

(56:43):
counseling with some of the other places that we have
that I have networked with, you know, most of them
have gotten some kind of counseling. So I'm not ever
going to put somebody on the show that I know
for sure, is voute ready to pull the chart?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
That's not that's oh yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
That was our yeah that you know, And there's unfortunately
a lot of people who want to look for a
platform as their staging area for that unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Unfortunately, and I do that's I usually bet people that
come onto my show. Yeah, because I did have one
guy that, oh yeah, I want to share my story.
I've attempted suicide eleven times. When was your last suicide
attempt last week? Okay, tell you what. Let me get
you connected with one of either one of my counseling
friends or a mentor or somebody. Let's get you to

(57:41):
help you.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, at that point, he's just running up the scoreboard
and then you know, somebody else is going to be
like armor Jock can go for twelve like it's holding
your breath or something. You know.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Yeah, So I just wanted to put that plug out there.
I just you know, and generally when I have a
Vegteman on, doctor Reister is there. So if we that
that person is being triggered, number one, we're gonna slow
it down and if we have to, we'll go off
air and she can help them with that, but that
has not happened.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
So it's a good thing. I would feel free to
share every episode to the pod Guys podcast group page,
even the other page as well, where we're trying to
build it up. But you know, Facebook algorithms keep it
down a little because Facebook's like, you already have one,
so goddamn it. Facebook is another one. We took the
one group private and Facebook will not allow to be

(58:34):
public again, which is whatever. So we've got another public
group out there, which Facebook just says, ah, it's another yeah, yeah,
so share it to as many pages as you like.
On our platform. We do get we do get a
lot of traction. And you know, it's that old theory
one in five hundred. You know, one in five hundred,
you pop it out to five hundred. If you get one,

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that's good, a thousand two, you know, and so on
and so forth, the old the old marketing of hey,
if you if you, if you got one person to watch,
that's kind of like ten. No, it's not. That's actually
less than one. You don't even know if they just
did it intentionally or non intentionally or whatever.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
But yeah, thank you, thank you so much for having
me on Guys it's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Well, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Of course, guys tune in every Monday. Of course we
have different guests, uh thousands of guests so far, you know,
over our years of interviewing, and of course we'd like
to hear and share your stories. Guys, we're the podcast
podcast Sparky. Where can you happen to find us? If

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you were looking for us to do our thing?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Well, you can find us on every single major streaming
platform including YouTube, Google, iHeart, Spotify, Spreaker.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Deezer Cast, Box, pocket Cast, Facebook Live on the video.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, we could also click.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You could also click on our page find our nifty merchandise.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Look at that shirt. Look at that beautiful shirt right there, Sparky,
hold it up proud. Right there. You got the big
pod guy's microphone right there, the pod guys podcast, and
Tony's got some kind of laborate shirt. Go with with
David Bowie, which wasn't even the best laborate movie. I
would suggest that justin you know, it wasn't. It was
not the with you justins Kevin blasphemous. Dustin Hoffman had

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a great movie about elaborate as well, very well acted
by an unknown Italian actor at the time, couldn't even
tell you his name, but it was so well acted.
But we are sparky. You weren't told too much about one.
But we are soon to be on Roku. We will
be on the Roku channel, so that's gonna be a
lot of fun up in the game as far as production,

(01:00:53):
and all the old episodes will be on there, including
this one with Dorothy O'Dell, Graham Odell, GM Modell. You know,
all the all the all the all the last names
are thrown in there at the grandm Odell. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
My maiden name in there, you know. Cool?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, why not? You know, it's just you know, for
the for the identity themes, you know, we have to
do something for them. Guys, don't get guys podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Have a great night. We'll see you next week ten
fifteen Eastern Standard Time via Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Bye.